Security hole in kernel fixed?

2024-05-15 Thread Hans
Dear developers,


in April 2024 the security hole CVE-2023-6546 was discovered in linux-image, 
and I believe, it 
is fixed in kernel 6.1.0 (from debian/stable) as soon after this a new kernel 
was released.


However, there is no new kernel 6.5.0-*-bpo released at that time, so my 
question: 


Does anyone know, if this fix was also integrated in kernel 6.5.0-*.bpo ?

Thanks for your answer.

Best

Hans






Re: Dovecot correct ownership for logs

2024-05-15 Thread Richard
Interesting. That's not even configured in our main.cfg. We have these
concerning dovecot:
smtpd_sasl_type = dovecot
mailbox_command = /usr/lib/dovecot/deliver -d $USER

But that's still not that helpful for the main issue. Why on earth is
postfix throwing issues about the log files, even when they are
world-readable and -writable? It's not that dovecot doesn't log to them,
but it's also not the case that it's an error message that can just be
ignored, as it brings mail delivery to a halt.

Am Mi., 15. Mai 2024 um 05:00 Uhr schrieb jeremy ardley <
jeremy.ard...@gmail.com>:


> This can be configured in postfix main.conf as
>
> virtual_transport  =  lmtp:unix:private/dovecot-lmtp or mailbox_transport
> =  lmtp:unix:private/dovecot-lmtp
>
>  From the postfix howto guide
>
> mailbox_transport_maps (default: empty)
>
>  Optional lookup tables with per-recipient message delivery transports
> to use for local(8) mailbox delivery, whether or not the recipients are
> found in the UNIX passwd database.
>
>  The precedence of local(8) delivery features from high to low is:
> aliases, .forward files, mailbox_transport_maps, mailbox_transport,
> mailbox_command_maps,
>  mailbox_command, home_mailbox, mail_spool_directory,
> fallback_transport_maps, fallback_transport and luser_relay.
>
> https://www.postfix.org/local.8.html
>
> https://doc.dovecot.org/configuration_manual/howto/postfix_dovecot_lmtp/
>
>


Re: Dovecot correct ownership for logs

2024-05-15 Thread jeremy ardley



On 15/5/24 18:23, Richard wrote:
Interesting. That's not even configured in our main.cfg. We have these 
concerning dovecot:

smtpd_sasl_type = dovecot
mailbox_command = /usr/lib/dovecot/deliver -d $USER


The sasl line is not relevant

The mailbox_command is unusual. It means whatever process actually 
execute the mailbox_command runs as (some) postfix user to run the 
deliver application. This may well cause permission issues.


The usual case is dovecot listens for commands on a unix socket or maybe 
an IP socket. In any case it has an entirely separate user ID from postfix.


You may want to look at using the mailbox_transport option instead of 
the mailbox_command option


mailbox_transport  =  lmtp:unix:private/dovecot-lmtp



Re: Dovecot correct ownership for logs

2024-05-15 Thread Richard
mailbox_transport isn't defined anywhere.


Am Mi., 15. Mai 2024 um 12:37 Uhr schrieb jeremy ardley <
jeremy.ard...@gmail.com>:

>
> On 15/5/24 18:23, Richard wrote:
> > Interesting. That's not even configured in our main.cfg. We have these
> > concerning dovecot:
> > smtpd_sasl_type = dovecot
> > mailbox_command = /usr/lib/dovecot/deliver -d $USER
>
> The sasl line is not relevant
>
> The mailbox_command is unusual. It means whatever process actually
> execute the mailbox_command runs as (some) postfix user to run the
> deliver application. This may well cause permission issues.
>
> The usual case is dovecot listens for commands on a unix socket or maybe
> an IP socket. In any case it has an entirely separate user ID from postfix.
>
> You may want to look at using the mailbox_transport option instead of
> the mailbox_command option
>
> mailbox_transport  =  lmtp:unix:private/dovecot-lmtp
>
>


Re: Dovecot correct ownership for logs

2024-05-15 Thread jeremy ardley



On 15/5/24 18:52, Richard wrote:

mailbox_transport isn't defined anywhere.


Am Mi., 15. Mai 2024 um 12:37 Uhr schrieb jeremy ardley 
:



On 15/5/24 18:23, Richard wrote:
> Interesting. That's not even configured in our main.cfg. We have
these
> concerning dovecot:
> smtpd_sasl_type = dovecot
> mailbox_command = /usr/lib/dovecot/deliver -d $USER

The sasl line is not relevant

The mailbox_command is unusual. It means whatever process actually
execute the mailbox_command runs as (some) postfix user to run the
deliver application. This may well cause permission issues.

The usual case is dovecot listens for commands on a unix socket or
maybe
an IP socket. In any case it has an entirely separate user ID from
postfix.

You may want to look at using the mailbox_transport option instead of
the mailbox_command option

mailbox_transport =  lmtp:unix:private/dovecot-lmtp



Then you may want to look at the manuals and find out how to add a 
mailbox_transport entry and comment out the mailbox_command entry.


There are many other options of course, but mailbox_transport is a very 
common configuration and usually avoids most permission issues.




Re: Security hole in kernel fixed?

2024-05-15 Thread The Wanderer
On 2024-05-15 at 03:05, Hans wrote:

> Dear developers,

As usual, most of us here are not Debian developers, even if some of us
may be software developers.

> in April 2024 the security hole CVE-2023-6546 was discovered in linux-image, 
> and I believe, it 
> is fixed in kernel 6.1.0 (from debian/stable) as soon after this a new kernel 
> was released.
> 
> However, there is no new kernel 6.5.0-*-bpo released at that time, so my 
> question: 
> 
> Does anyone know, if this fix was also integrated in kernel 6.5.0-*.bpo ?

I don't have a definitive answer, but you might look at:

https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2023-6546

The only place it mentions 6.5 is in the Notes section, where it
mentions 6.5-rc7 (with a kernel.org link) in the context of a statement
that the Linux kernel in Debian buster does not include the vulnerable
code.

I would therefore suspect that any 6.5.x kernel probably was not
affected by this vulnerability to begin with.

-- 
   The Wanderer

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw



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Re: Dovecot correct ownership for logs

2024-05-15 Thread Henning Follmann
On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 12:23:35PM +0200, Richard wrote:
>
[...]
 
> But that's still not that helpful for the main issue. Why on earth is
> postfix throwing issues about the log files, even when they are
> world-readable and -writable? It's not that dovecot doesn't log to them,
> but it's also not the case that it's an error message that can just be
> ignored, as it brings mail delivery to a halt.
> 

Maybe because you write directly to the logfile. One process trying to write
t it while a different already holds a lock to it.

-H

-- 
Henning Follmann   | hfollm...@itcfollmann.com



Re: OT: Top Posting

2024-05-15 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
-Original Message-
From: gene heskett 
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: OT: Top Posting
Date: 05/14/24 10:54:50

On 5/14/24 10:09, Richard wrote:
Just because something isn't an official ISO standard doesn't mean
it's 
not standard behavior. And how it relates to this mailing list? It's 
called a setting.

No its not, its your refusal to use the down arrow in your reply editor 
to put your reply after the question. It really is that simple. If your 
choice of email agents cannot do that, its time to switch to an agent 
that can. There are dozens of them.


DISCLAIMER: I just realized above portion might not quote properly. My
apologies in advance if it does not. That's one glitch I haven't located
a fix for, yet.

The rest of the email: I think Evolution has finally fixed my own latest
issues with tech reply emails just since Gmail forced all users onto its
more dynamic release. My biggest issue is, hopefully "was," line length.
This email is only my second reply sent in maybe 2 months so am about to
find out how things are progressing.

Accidentally just this second was reminded there's a setting for
avoiding top posting by lunging to bottom of reply emails. That setting
is found by going through the now classic 3-line settings "hamburger"
then:

Edit > Preferences > Composer Preferences > General (tab)

There's a simple toggle on/off checkbox that says, "Start typing at the
bottom." The setting for word wrapping is just a few lines above that.

Regarding line length (word wrapping), that's an even less spoken
"standard" that has merit at its base. I think I've seen it mentioned
maybe one time in more than a decade++ on Debian. That "standard" is
about usability.. readability.. aka conscious consideration for fellow
list members.

Best as I was able to discern from the Net [0], 72 characters is the
magic number for line length because 4 extra characters are added to
both ends when e.g. git processes submissions. Makes good common sense
to me.

PS I thought it was 80. Guess it was about those extra 8 characters.
Or.. Maybe whoever I saw write that over ten years ago almost understood
that "handshake standard" but not quite. That's one scary part of
trusting strangers on the WWW. :)

Again back to the concept of tech listserv standards, the source I'm
referencing after randomly finding it via search this morning says, "The
50/72 Rule is a set of standards that are pretty well agreed upon in the
industry to standardize the format of commit messages."

"Pretty well agreed upon..." That's implying that unspoken list
standards are really not users "picking on each other." Listserv
standards is a concept that has evolved over decades for rational
reasons as Developer and User communications evolved.

Am not embarrassed to say Evolution has kicked my backside k/t its
learning curve versus a user's level of cognitive ability. This
experience ended up touching on "frightening" a couple times, e.g. I
sent 2,000 online emails to (online) trash when that was not intended.
It's easy to mess up badly while moving emails around between desktop
folders because that activity directly affects the linked online email
provider if a user approves those access permissions. 

For what it's worth as a huge selling point for me, I have a massive
online email account. There are hundreds of thousands of emails from the
last 20 years. Evolution said whatever, bring it on.

Evolution appears to do some form of maybe symlinking instead of
downloading so everything is available almost immediately seconds after
the first time Evolution is ever fired up. Other email software I've
used only seems to work by downloading. That difference is huge for
anyone using a data download limiting Internet provider. NOTE: Evolution
appears to possibly offer related tweaking if one prefers working
offline.

In the other email software cases I attempted, the software could only
reach back a limited time span into history before I a-sume Gmail cut
off access to touching older emails. If there's a work-around for that,
I never found it. I simply (and immediately) purged the email software,
instead.

With Evolution, I'm instantly looking at emails I haven't seen in ~20
years. I was having a horrible time accessing those same emails in Gmail
itself online. Talk about mind blowing nostalgia overload...

Cindy :)

[0]
https://dev.to/noelworden/improving-your-commit-message-with-the-50-72-rule-3g79
-- 
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* runs with birdseed! *



Re: OT: Top Posting

2024-05-15 Thread Nicolas George
Cindy Sue Causey (12024-05-15):
> Best as I was able to discern from the Net [0], 72 characters is the
> magic number for line length because 4 extra characters are added to
> both ends when e.g. git processes submissions. Makes good common sense
> to me.

Git is an order of magnitude younger than the limit at 72 characters.

> PS I thought it was 80. Guess it was about those extra 8 characters.

It is 80 but you anticipate that people will be adding “> ” in front of
your lines.

> "Pretty well agreed upon..." That's implying that unspoken list
> standards are really not users "picking on each other." Listserv
> standards is a concept that has evolved over decades for rational
> reasons as Developer and User communications evolved.

Indeed.

> It's easy to mess up badly while moving emails around

As a general rule, GUIs suck at anything but trivial tasks.

> Evolution appears to do some form of maybe symlinking instead of
> downloading so everything is available almost immediately seconds after
> the first time Evolution is ever fired up.

The IMAP protocol is designed to let us manipulate mails directly on the
server without downloading the bulk of them. A lot of GUI MUA are still
designed around the old paradigm where mails are downloaded, and turned
it into some kind of cache: it rarely works well.

Manipulate mails directly on the server. Have a backup. If your server
is often down and accessing the mails is urgent, have a local *copy* of
it.

> reach back a limited time span into history before I a-sume Gmail cut
> off access to touching older emails.

If you want mail that works well, start by avoiding services meant for
the lowest common denominator of the general public.

Regards,

-- 
  Nicolas George



Re: OT: Top Posting

2024-05-15 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
-Original Message-
From: Greg Wooledge 
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: OT: Top Posting
Date: 05/14/24 13:41:17

On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 05:01:31PM +, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote:
> how many times has this top post crap been dug up
> don't y'all have any thing better to do

It's never going to stop.  We have a clash of two cultures here.

The first culture are Unix users who grew up with Internet email and
Usenet news.  For people in this culture, there is a well-defined set
of "netiquette" rules -- plain text messages, inline quoting with "> "
citation characters, lines limited to ~72 characters, etc.



Too funny for words! Make that twice now that I've seen line length
mentioned here on Debian in over a decade++. I also referenced the
inline quoting method since my new chosen email software appears to be
failing with its default on that feature. Will try AGAIN to fix that as
soon as I hit "Send" here BECAUSE tech reply emails are difficult to
follow without those stacked ">" over ">>" pointers attached showing who
said what when.

And, yeah, netiquette, that's the word echoed across the Internet. I
totally forgot that in my own response. It's not users picking on each
other. It's a respectful "virtual handshake approved" set of standards
with the straightforward purpose of putting everyone on as close to the
same page as is humanly possible.

PS Afterthought is that email signatures are another of that widely
accepted netiquette set of standards. I consciously altered mine many
years ago after reading about that, most likely also here on Debian-
User. Might have been over on W3C, too, now that I think about it.
That's where I first heard of Linux circa 1999.

W3C's Linux reference was about installing HTML validators locally, and
the rest is terminal command line history. Thank you, Developers! What
you all do and that works so near flawlessly in nanoseconds still..
blows my mind to this.. second. Watching daily upgrades methodically
unfold as each package successfully coordinates its place in line with
the others is pure magic. :)

Cindy :)
-- 
Talking Rock, Pickens County, North Georgia
* runs with birdseed! *



Re: OT: Top Posting

2024-05-15 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 09:46:08AM -0400, Cindy Sue Causey wrote:
> Best as I was able to discern from the Net [0], 72 characters is the
> magic number for line length because 4 extra characters are added to
> both ends when e.g. git processes submissions. Makes good common sense
> to me.
> 
> PS I thought it was 80. Guess it was about those extra 8 characters.

For many decades, there was an industry standard that lines of text
should be up to 80 characters wide.  Punch cards were 80 characters wide,
for example.  I don't know whether punch cards were the *first* place
it appeared, but they're the first I'm aware of.

A lot of the printers from the last century allowed 80 characters
per line on standard US 8.5x11 inch paper.  I'm not sure if teletypes
used 80-column paper, or 133-column paper (green bar), or a mixture.

Later, we got terminals.  A typical ASCII terminal (a physical one, like
a DEC VT-100) is 80x24 characters, or sometimes 80x25.  The 80-character
line standard continued.

When hardware evolved and most of us started using X11 or similar GUI
interfaces, terminal emulators became the norm.  xterm and other software
terminal emulators use an 80x24 window as the default, for compatibility
with physical terminals.

When writing code in most programming languages, there are style guides
that still suggest sticking to 80-character lines whenever possible.
It avoids line wrapping when being read in an 80-character terminal,
and besides that, really long lines of code are harder to read than
shorter lines.

When it comes to email or Usenet, though, the 72-character suggestion
is meant to allow a bit of room for quoting markup.  If I write a
79-character line of text, and then you reply to it with "> " in front,
the resulting 81-character line of text either gets wrapped or truncated.
Limiting yourself to 72-character lines allows a few levels of quoting
before the text becomes unreadable.

This is why the 72-character limit is just a suggestion, not a hard
requirement.  If you write lines that are 74 characters wide, probably
nobody's going to care.  The goal is simply to make it easy to carry
on a conversation.



Re: OT: Top Posting

2024-05-15 Thread gene heskett

On 5/15/24 10:06, Nicolas George wrote:

Cindy Sue Causey (12024-05-15):

Best as I was able to discern from the Net [0], 72 characters is the
magic number for line length because 4 extra characters are added to
both ends when e.g. git processes submissions. Makes good common sense
to me.


Git is an order of magnitude younger than the limit at 72 characters.


PS I thought it was 80. Guess it was about those extra 8 characters.


It is 80 but you anticipate that people will be adding “> ” in front of
your lines.


"Pretty well agreed upon..." That's implying that unspoken list
standards are really not users "picking on each other." Listserv
standards is a concept that has evolved over decades for rational
reasons as Developer and User communications evolved.


Indeed.


It's easy to mess up badly while moving emails around


As a general rule, GUIs suck at anything but trivial tasks.


Evolution appears to do some form of maybe symlinking instead of
downloading so everything is available almost immediately seconds after
the first time Evolution is ever fired up.


The IMAP protocol is designed to let us manipulate mails directly on the
server without downloading the bulk of them. A lot of GUI MUA are still
designed around the old paradigm where mails are downloaded, and turned
it into some kind of cache: it rarely works well.

Manipulate mails directly on the server. Have a backup. If your server
is often down and accessing the mails is urgent, have a local *copy* of
it.


reach back a limited time span into history before I a-sume Gmail cut
off access to touching older emails.


If you want mail that works well, start by avoiding services meant for
the lowest common denominator of the general public.

Regards,

I'll add that googles gmail, written by former outlook developers is the 
biggest pita to ever hit the net. They break every rfc that can.


Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
 - Louis D. Brandeis



Re: OT: Top Posting

2024-05-15 Thread Nicolas George
Cindy Sue Causey (12024-05-15):
> PS Afterthought is that email signatures are another of that widely
> accepted netiquette set of standards.

You can add the “Re: ” to that list.

It is the sequence of four octets 0x52, 0x65, 0x3a, 0x20, and nothing
else.

The MUAs who write “RE: ” are wrong.

The MUAs who write “Re : ” are wrong.

The MUAs who write “AW: ” are wrong.

The MUAs who put it in base64 are wrong.

It is not a string that is designed to be internationalized, we cannot
expect every MUA to know every stupid local or vanity variant of “Re: ”.

Regards,

-- 
  Nicolas George



Re: Markup in mail messages

2024-05-15 Thread Darac Marjal

On 15/05/2024 03:17, Max Nikulin wrote:

On 15/05/2024 02:32, Greg Wooledge wrote:

On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 08:16:20PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote:

Messages in Markdown in the Windows world? I have never seen it.

[...]

The only sensible interpretation I can
come up with for why these asterisks were added is that they're being
placed around text that's supposed to be emphasized/italicized.


*Bold*, /italics/, and _underlined_ markup is supported by various
mailers, e.g. Thunderbird and Gnus. Some render superscripts^1 and
subscripts_2 as well.

Backticks (`echo $PATH`) are more specific to markdown. However
sometimes I use them not expecting that the message will be rendered as
markdown. Just to avoid ambiguity where a piece of code starts and ends.

When this sort of subject comes up (as it does, every so often), I 
wonder why `text/markdown` isn't offered as a mime type for sending 
emails. If you're an MUA and you're going to parse text/plain for 
markup, then why not offer text/markdown as the body of the message? I 
know that there have been various attempts to bridge the gap between 
"text/plain is too basic" and "text/html is too powerful" such as 
text/enriched and text/rtf, but Markdown seems to be hitting a sweet 
spot of being easy to write and being widely adopted elsewhere.


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Re: Bookworm's /etc/mailcap seems to break s-nail

2024-05-15 Thread Max Nikulin

On 07/05/2024 23:24, Max Nikulin wrote:

On 2024-05-06 17:04, Max Nikulin wrote:

So doubled backslashes (as in .desktop files) are correct.

What is wrong is lack of backslashes added before ";" and it is a bug.


I have filed
https://bugs.debian.org/1071036
update-mime does not escape semicolon in .desktop Exec entries

This particular bug almost certainly may be fixed by adding an extra 
line of perl code.


However 2 layer of quoting in .desktop files: special rules for Exec and 
general for any strings require more work to get entries properly 
escaped for mailcap in general case.


In the meanwhile I have realized that BASH implementation of parsing 
Exec entries in xdg-open fallback function search_desktop_file is really 
ugly:

https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xdg/xdg-utils/-/blob/master/scripts/xdg-open.in?ref_type=heads#L312

I am unsure if it is possible to implement double quotes rule
https://specifications.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/ar01s07.html

Since xdg-open usually delegates handling of URIs to the desktop 
environment, this code is active only for those who avoid any DE.




Re: OT: Top Posting

2024-05-15 Thread Henning Follmann
Since my request started this offtopic subthread I hope I can put it to
rest.
Yes I requested to not toppost. I asked politely, and I added pertinent
response on topic. I do not claim to be right or wrong about this. I prefer
interleaved style for reason. Everyone on  this list heard all arguments pro
and con in previous discussions, and there is no need to repeat them. It is
a matter of personal choice though I have to admit I feel a bit emboldened by
the posting guidelines. And in my experience a polite question goes a long
way with most civilized people. You can ignore my request, well you even
ask me to toppost. I will ignore it.
There is no need for a lecture, you have no claim to right or wrong either.
Claiming a de facto industry standard (I avoided the literally sidebar
here) on majority is a questionable argument. Large numbers do not make
right. There are many examples where the majority is wrong. Well I go along
with majority practice knowing they are wrong, just to make life easier. 
I try not to yell at people though for choosing differently. And it is
questionable to get you anywhere anytime fast. And I do not like that Gene
was called an "epitome of humanity" in a cynical way and I earned a
hypocrite long after I copped out of that discussion.


Please let this rest.

-H


-- 
Henning Follmann   | hfollm...@itcfollmann.com



Re: OT: Top Posting

2024-05-15 Thread James H. H. Lampert

On 5/15/24 6:46 AM, Cindy Sue Causey wrote:
. . .

No its not, its your refusal to use the down arrow in your reply editor
to put your reply after the question. It really is that simple. If your
choice of email agents cannot do that, its time to switch to an agent
that can. There are dozens of them.

. . .

Actually, it isn't necessarily the user's fault. Thanks to the "business 
standard," (and think about the initials) of top-posting over the 
complete, unpared quote of the entire thread, there are an awful lot of 
email readers (and especially webmail interfaces) that make it difficult 
to follow any other convention, and a few that make it damn-near impossible.


Just as there are an awful lot that make it difficult or impossible to 
send a plain-text email.



Incidentally, regarding the Hollerith card origins of the 80-column 
standard, the very first Hollerith cards, from the 1890 U.S. Census, had 
24 columns and 12 rows of round holes, and were punched with a 
pantograph punch. In 1928, IBM introduced rectangular holes, in an 
80-column, 10-row format, later expanded to 12 rows.


--
JHHL



Re: OT: Top Posting

2024-05-15 Thread gene heskett

On 5/15/24 10:50, Nicolas George wrote:

Cindy Sue Causey (12024-05-15):

PS Afterthought is that email signatures are another of that widely
accepted netiquette set of standards.


You can add the “Re: ” to that list.

It is the sequence of four octets 0x52, 0x65, 0x3a, 0x20, and nothing
else.

The MUAs who write “RE: ” are wrong.

The MUAs who write “Re : ” are wrong.

The MUAs who write “AW: ” are wrong.

The MUAs who put it in base64 are wrong.

It is not a string that is designed to be internationalized, we cannot
expect every MUA to know every stupid local or vanity variant of “Re: ”.

+ 5, Excellent point Nicolas
The same can be said for sig separators. One fellow here has it as part 
of his sig but his definition in his sig is incomplete.
Its actually an lf,dash,dash,space.lf ignoring the comma's I used 
here..Some email agents won't use it as a sig separator w/o the full 
lf's as wrapper. cr's are not valid subs for the lf's..



Regards,


Take care & stay well Nicolas.

Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
 - Louis D. Brandeis



Re: Markup in mail messages

2024-05-15 Thread David
	On Wed, 2024-05-15 at 15:57 +0100, Darac Marjal wrote:
> On 15/05/2024 03:17, Max Nikulin wrote:
> 
> > On 15/05/2024 02:32, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > 
> > > On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 08:16:20PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Messages in Markdown in the Windows world? I have never seen it.
> > > 
> > 
> > [...]
> > 
> > > The only sensible interpretation I can
> > > come up with for why these asterisks were added is that they're being
> > > placed around text that's supposed to be emphasized/italicized.
> > 
> > 
> > *Bold*, /italics/, and _underlined_ markup is supported by various
> > mailers, e.g. Thunderbird and Gnus. Some render superscripts^1 and
> > subscripts_2 as well.
> > 
> > Backticks (`echo $PATH`) are more specific to markdown. However
> > sometimes I use them not expecting that the message will be rendered as
> > markdown. Just to avoid ambiguity where a piece of code starts and ends.
> >
> 
> When this sort of subject comes up (as it does, every so often), I  
> wonder why `text/markdown` isn't offered as a mime type for sending  
> emails. If you're an MUA and you're going to parse text/plain for  
> markup, then why not offer text/markdown as the body of the message? I  
> know that there have been various attempts to bridge the gap between  
> "text/plain is too basic" and "text/html is too powerful" such as  
> text/enriched and text/rtf, but Markdown seems to be hitting a sweet  
> spot of being easy to write and being widely adopted elsewhere.

Evolution delivers on a markdown option.\
Cheers!



Regression in Radeon driver in latest Debian Stable kernel

2024-05-15 Thread piorunz

Hello,

I have reported a regression in latest Linux kernel in Debian Stable:

segfault at amdgpu_dm_atomic_commit_tail
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1071080

It throws a lot of errors related to AMD GPU every day. I also
experienced full desktop hang, where I had to restart my computer:
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=486970

This happens on 6.1.0-21-amd64. Booting previous version 6.1.0-20-amd64
solves all problems.

Can anyone help me with getting attention from some developers? KDE dev
said this is downstream, not KDE problem. Debian bug reported, but no
reply from anyone yet.

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Re: Regression in Radeon driver in latest Debian Stable kernel

2024-05-15 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 15 May 2024 20:40 +0100, from pior...@gmx.com (piorunz):
> I have reported a regression in latest Linux kernel in Debian Stable:
> 
> segfault at amdgpu_dm_atomic_commit_tail
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1071080

You made this bug report less than 48 hours ago. While I can certainly
understand that you would like to see it fixed, that's not an
inordinate amount of time to wait.

What probably _would_ be helpful is to see whether you can recreate
the same scenario with the vanilla kernel.org kernels of the same
versions; confirming that the issue exists with the vanilla 6.1.90
kernel _and_ that the issue goes away when booting the vanilla kernel
of whatever exact version your earlier package is (I'm guessing
6.1.85), both when built with the same configuration options as the
kernels shipped by Debian. That would confirm whether what you are
seeing is something somehow introduced by Debian, or an upstream bug.

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Re: Security hole in kernel fixed?

2024-05-15 Thread Stanislav Vlasov
ср, 15 мая 2024 г. в 16:55, Hans :

> Dear developers,

Users.

> in April 2024 the security hole CVE-2023-6546 was discovered in linux-image, 
> and I believe, it is fixed in kernel 6.1.0 (from debian/stable) as soon after 
> this a new kernel was released.

https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2023-6546 may be help

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