Re: Network install

2015-01-30 Thread Rodolfo Medina
Quoting Rodolfo Medina (rodolfo.med...@gmail.com):

> To connect to Internet, I use ppp and a pendrive as modem.  It seems that the
> minimal netinst doesn't install ppp, so I can't connect to Internet to fetch
> the remaining packages.  Am I missing something important, or should conclude
> that the network install is not for me?

Pascal Hambourg  writes:

> Rodolfo Medina a écrit :
>> 
>> To connect to Internet, I use ppp and a pendrive as modem.
>
> I doubt so. A "pendrive" is not a modem, it is a storage device.

Sorry, it's something similar to a pendrive.


>> It seems that the minimal netinst doesn't install ppp
>
> It does. You may need to choose expert install in order to be able to
> select ppp extra packages.


In the expert mode, I select the two ppp packages, but even then the `pon'
command, which I use to connect, still remains `not found' by the system.

Thanks,

Rodolfo


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Re: GHOST, Am I ok?

2015-01-30 Thread Mart van de Wege
Jochen Spieker  writes:

> Sven Hartge:
>> Darac Marjal  wrote:
>>> On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 05:52:49PM -0600, John Hasler wrote:
 
 Look at checkrestart in the debian-goodies package.
>> 
>>> Or alternatively, if you're on testing or newer (or can accept a
>>> backport), try needrestart (in its own package) which will inform you
>>> after a dpkg run which services need restarting.
>> 
>> needrestart is also available in the official backports.
>
> Thanks for that hint! This should really be installed by default. I
> wonder how many systems regularly stay vulnerable even after installing
> security patches, just because admins don't realize they may have to
> restart some services manually.
>
And this is why simply rebooting after significant patches is a good
idea.

Mart
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Re: Linux based cellphones?

2015-01-30 Thread Karen Lewellen

I did not mean destros.
I meant actually put into hardware and sold devices.
Thanks again for all the answers.
I did admire the creativity of the raspberry pie example I admit.
Karen


On Fri, 30 Jan 2015, Stephen Allen wrote:


On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 07:44:10PM -0500, Karen Lewellen wrote:

hi All,
If this is not the best place for such a question, direct me elsewhere.
Still I am wondering if there are open source /Linux based mobile  devices?
If so who manufactures them?
thanks,
Karen


Ubuntu has a mobile distro.


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Re: Linux based cellphones?

2015-01-30 Thread Gian Uberto Lauri
Karen Lewellen writes:
 > I did not mean destros.
 > I meant actually put into hardware and sold devices.
 > Thanks again for all the answers.

Has Golden Delicious be suggested? They sell a board GTA04 that fits
in the original openmoko case.

http://www.goldelico.com/wiki.php?page=Products

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Re: Linux based cellphones?

2015-01-30 Thread Karen Lewellen

Now that  seems  nifty.
Thanks for it.
Kare


On Fri, 30 Jan 2015, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote:


Karen Lewellen writes:
> I did not mean destros.
> I meant actually put into hardware and sold devices.
> Thanks again for all the answers.

Has Golden Delicious be suggested? They sell a board GTA04 that fits
in the original openmoko case.

http://www.goldelico.com/wiki.php?page=Products

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già sistemista a tempo (altrui) perso...Debian"

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Re: Linux based cellphones?

2015-01-30 Thread Peter Viskup
be careful with that as seems there is no working kernel at the moment -
ask guys at Golden Delicious. And even the QTMoko dissapeared and the other
distribution SHR is dead too. Unfortunately nobody taking care to continue
this work.
Take a look at Jolla or FirefoxOS devices. I would propose you the
FirefoxOS as it seems most promising open sourced OS for mobile devices
build on top of Linux and Gecko kernels.

https://jolla.com
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/os/devices/

Unfortunately none of those are completely open sourced. The last one was
the OpenMoko GTA02. GTA04 has some closed sourced components AFAIK, but
check with them.

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On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Karen Lewellen 
wrote:

> Now that  seems  nifty.
> Thanks for it.
> Kare
>
>
>
> On Fri, 30 Jan 2015, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote:
>
>  Karen Lewellen writes:
>> > I did not mean destros.
>> > I meant actually put into hardware and sold devices.
>> > Thanks again for all the answers.
>>
>> Has Golden Delicious be suggested? They sell a board GTA04 that fits
>> in the original openmoko case.
>>
>> http://www.goldelico.com/wiki.php?page=Products
>>
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>>
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Re: Fwd: New problem with GIMP plugin file-jpeg

2015-01-30 Thread Curt
On 2015-01-30, Bob Proulx  wrote:
>
>
> Doesn't X documents this as Mouse-1 and Mouse-3?  Clicking Mouse-1 is
> the primary mouse button.  No need to stress left or right and no need
> for confusing "non-dominant mouse button" either.  :-)  I would go
> with mouse-1.
>

Have we taken the politically correct to painfully facetious
extremes? 

We will now denominate the left-handed as "Non-majoritively unidextrous
persons."

Please be advised.

Of course, the lefties have been persecuted for centuries.  I once read
that flipping through magazines from back to front (a habit of mine, as
the interesting stuff is always in the back) is the sign of a left-handed
individual who has been deprived in infancy of his natural impulse
towards non-majorititive unidexterity.

I have been dominated.

And so it goes.

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Re: Linux based cellphones?

2015-01-30 Thread hdv@gmail
On 2015-01-30 10:47, Karen Lewellen wrote:
> Now that  seems  nifty.

Don't know what your timeframe is, but have you considered the Neo900?
See neo900.org. It is not out yet, but it seems promising.

Grx HdV



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Re: Network install

2015-01-30 Thread Darac Marjal
On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 04:09:46PM -0500, Dan Purgert wrote:
> On 29/01/2015 15:39, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > Rodolfo Medina a écrit :
> >> 
> >> To connect to Internet, I use ppp and a pendrive as modem.
> > 
> > I doubt so. A "pendrive" is not a modem, it is a storage device.
> 
> Bet he's referring to 3g/4g cell card as a "pendrive modem" or perhaps
> is using a wired USB modem that happens to look similar to a storage device.

Such things do exist. There are modems that, on first connection appear
to be a USB Mass Storage device (i.e. a pen drive) upon which the user
can find drivers for the modem (though, typically, these drivers only
work with a very limited number of operating systems).

In these cases, debian can use the package "usbmodeswitch" to send the
command to switch the USB device into modem mode, at which point the PPP
connection can be made.

> 
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Re: HP 3050A is not printing anymore after debian update on jessie

2015-01-30 Thread Thomas Meier
Am Donnerstag, 29. Januar 2015, 20:03:09 schrieb Brian:
> On Sun 25 Jan 2015 at 12:28:17 +0100, Thomas wrote:
> > I started the PC this morning, no printer was working so I used
> > http://localhost:631/admin and AFTER this I used your commands, and this
> > is
> > the result:
> > 
> > 
> > $ lpstat -t
> > scheduler is running
> > system default destination: HPDeskjet3050A
> > device for HPDeskjet3050A:
> > hp:/usb/Deskjet_3050A_J611_series?serial=CN1AJ485JC05PJ
> > HPDeskjet3050A accepting requests since Sa 24 Jan 2015 23:07:04 CET
> > printer HPDeskjet3050A is idle.  enabled since Sa 24 Jan 2015 23:07:04 CET
> 
> With that output it would expected that
> 
>   lp ~/.profile
> 
> would lead to a printout. Does it?
> 
> > If you need output ater PC started and BEFORE using cups admin let me
> > know..
> The 'lpstat -t' result should be the same as the previous one. But let
> us see it anyway.

Hi,
no printout...


#:~$ lp ~/.profile
lp: Error - no default destination available.


#:~$ lpstat -t
scheduler is running
no system default destination
device for HP_Deskjet_3050A_J611_series: 
usb://HP/Deskjet%203050A%20J611%20series?serial=CN1AJ485JC05PJ&interface=1
HP_Deskjet_3050A_J611_series accepting requests since Do 29 Jan 2015 17:53:22 
CET
printer HP_Deskjet_3050A_J611_series is idle.  enabled since Do 29 Jan 2015 
17:53:22 CET

thanks Thomas






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Re: Linux based cellphones?

2015-01-30 Thread Luis Felipe Tabera Alonso
On Thursday 29 January 2015 19:44:10 Karen Lewellen wrote:
> hi All,
> If this is not the best place for such a question, direct me elsewhere.
> Still I am wondering if there are open source /Linux based mobile  
devices?
> If so who manufactures them?
> thanks,
> Karen

Karen,

The Jolla phone has a SailfishOS linux distribution. There is a closed-source 
alien-dalvik in it and there may be other closed-source parts. Depending 
on your point of view it is either semi-open or semi-closed.

A nice thing is that it allows you root access to the device.

Bests,

Luis


Re: Network install

2015-01-30 Thread Rodolfo Medina
Darac Marjal  writes:

> On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 04:09:46PM -0500, Dan Purgert wrote:
>> On 29/01/2015 15:39, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
>> > Hello,
>> > 
>> > Rodolfo Medina a écrit :
>> >> 
>> >> To connect to Internet, I use ppp and a pendrive as modem.
>> > 
>> > I doubt so. A "pendrive" is not a modem, it is a storage device.
>> 
>> Bet he's referring to 3g/4g cell card as a "pendrive modem" or perhaps
>> is using a wired USB modem that happens to look similar to a storage device.
>
> Such things do exist. There are modems that, on first connection appear
> to be a USB Mass Storage device (i.e. a pen drive) upon which the user
> can find drivers for the modem (though, typically, these drivers only
> work with a very limited number of operating systems).
>
> In these cases, debian can use the package "usbmodeswitch" to send the
> command to switch the USB device into modem mode, at which point the PPP
> connection can be made.


I've been using for years that device simply with the command `pon'.

Thanks,

Rodolfo


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Re: Network install

2015-01-30 Thread Rodolfo Medina
Rodolfo Medina  writes:

> Darac Marjal  writes:
>
>> On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 04:09:46PM -0500, Dan Purgert wrote:
>>> On 29/01/2015 15:39, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
>>> > Hello,
>>> > 
>>> > Rodolfo Medina a écrit :
>>> >> 
>>> >> To connect to Internet, I use ppp and a pendrive as modem.
>>> > 
>>> > I doubt so. A "pendrive" is not a modem, it is a storage device.
>>> 
>>> Bet he's referring to 3g/4g cell card as a "pendrive modem" or perhaps is
>>> using a wired USB modem that happens to look similar to a storage device.
>>
>> Such things do exist. There are modems that, on first connection appear
>> to be a USB Mass Storage device (i.e. a pen drive) upon which the user
>> can find drivers for the modem (though, typically, these drivers only
>> work with a very limited number of operating systems).
>>
>> In these cases, debian can use the package "usbmodeswitch" to send the
>> command to switch the USB device into modem mode, at which point the PPP
>> connection can be made.
>
>
> I've been using for years that device simply with the command `pon'.

...  My problem now is that after netinstall, even installing ppp in expert
mode, that command turns to be `not found'.

Thanks,

Rodolfo


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Re: Fwd: New problem with GIMP plugin file-jpeg

2015-01-30 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 30 January 2015 10:23:18 Curt wrote:
> I once read
> that flipping through magazines from back to front (a habit of mine, as
> the interesting stuff is always in the back) is the sign of a left-handed
> individual who has been deprived in infancy of his natural impulse
> towards non-majorititive unidexterity.

What about the Japanese?

Lisi


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Re: Duel Booting Debian on a Mac

2015-01-30 Thread José Silva

On 30-01-2015 00:57, John Holland wrote:



In the end I uninstalled Debian because of the following problems:

1. The brightness of the screen does not readjust after
suspend/resume in Debian (I worked hard trying to solve this with
some published hacks, but no full success).

2. Often the Mac got hot with closed lid, eating the battery. This
seems caused by the above firmware manipulation hack.

3. Ugrades of OSX seem to damage the reFind configuration. Also there
is a problem writing the hidden rescue partition during an upgrade of
OSX.
\



I'm writing this from wheezy on my macbook pro (2011). It took a while
to get it working well but now it has been for >> 1 year. Some of the
key things that have helped:

things I have never resolved: screen brightness keys, keyboard
brightness keys - I'm not sure if hibernate would work as I don't have
a swap partition to use for it. I did make shell scripts to do these
things and they can be mapped to key combinations in various ways if
those things are a priority.


John Holland
jholl...@vin-dit.org
gpg public key ID 0xEFAF0D15



I'm writing this on my macbook pro (late 2011) with xubuntu 14.04 (I 
switched from debian, which I used for about 6 years, because I don't 
like systemd).


I have everything working for a month now: suspend, backlight keys, 
keyboard backlight, sound, ...


I know xubuntu is not debian but, being a derivative, I think it would 
be possible to do it on wheezy as well. For me, the key was using the 
package pommed which also exists on debian wheezy. This makes all the 
hot keys work and also sound and beep, and even switching the default of 
the function keys (top row).


As to the gpu, I login through refind into grub that passes commands to 
the kernel that switch to intel and switch-off amd completely. I also 
had to issue hardware commands directly to the hardware ports by 
slightly modifying a grub script. As an indication, when I do $ lspci | 
grep VGA, I only see the intel gpu, the amd doesn't even show.


This saves a lot of battery; when I pull out the adapter, I see 7 hours 
on the power manager icon. Of course I also have the cpu on 
"power-on-demand".


Still concerning the suspend, I remember I had to repeat the port 
commands to switch the gpu on wake-up.


I did this by reading a lot on the net but unfortunately I lost track of 
the links. But, if you have trouble finding it, I'm willing to dive in 
it again because only about a month has past, it's still fresh in my mind.


Cheers
jss


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Re: Network install

2015-01-30 Thread Dan Purgert
On 30/01/2015 03:18, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
> [...]
>>> To connect to Internet, I use ppp and a pendrive as modem.
>>
>> I doubt so. A "pendrive" is not a modem, it is a storage device.
> 
> Sorry, it's something similar to a pendrive.
>

What is it exactly?  Is it a 3/4g cell card (such as provided by a phone
company), or something else?

> 
>>> It seems that the minimal netinst doesn't install ppp
>>
>> It does. You may need to choose expert install in order to be able to
>> select ppp extra packages.
> 
> 
> In the expert mode, I select the two ppp packages, but even then the `pon'
> command, which I use to connect, still remains `not found' by the system.


are those ppp packages being INSTALLED (or at least loaded into the
minimal kernel) ... or are you selecting them for install after the PC
finally connects to the internet?


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Re: New problem with GIMP plugin file-jpeg

2015-01-30 Thread Ron
On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 11:24:32 +
Lisi Reisz  wrote:

> What about the Japanese?

not to mention the Israelis, Farsis, Urdus, and the Muslims ?
 
Cheers,
 
Ron.
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Re: Network install

2015-01-30 Thread Rodolfo Medina
Dan Purgert  writes:

> On 30/01/2015 03:18, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
>> [...]
 To connect to Internet, I use ppp and a pendrive as modem.
>>>
>>> I doubt so. A "pendrive" is not a modem, it is a storage device.
>> 
>> Sorry, it's something similar to a pendrive.
>>
>
> What is it exactly?  Is it a 3/4g cell card (such as provided by a phone
> company), or something else?

Yes, that's something like that: huawei-e169.


 It seems that the minimal netinst doesn't install ppp
>>>
>>> It does. You may need to choose expert install in order to be able to
>>> select ppp extra packages.
>> 
>> 
>> In the expert mode, I select the two ppp packages, but even then the `pon'
>> command, which I use to connect, still remains `not found' by the system.
>
>
> are those ppp packages being INSTALLED (or at least loaded into the
> minimal kernel) ... or are you selecting them for install after the PC
> finally connects to the internet?


They're installed (or at least loaded into the minimal kernel) when I launch
the Debian Installer.  Precisely: from http://www.us.debian.org/CD/netinst/ I
downloaded the file debian-7.8.0-i386-netinst.iso and installed Debian with it,
everything fine.  Now I want to install the remaining packages via internet,
but to connect to it I need ppp and the `pon' command, which is `not found'.

Rodolfo


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Re: Network install

2015-01-30 Thread Brian
On Fri 30 Jan 2015 at 07:55:11 -0500, Dan Purgert wrote:

> On 30/01/2015 03:18, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
> > [...]
> >>> To connect to Internet, I use ppp and a pendrive as modem.
> >>
> >> I doubt so. A "pendrive" is not a modem, it is a storage device.
> > 
> > Sorry, it's something similar to a pendrive.
> >
> 
> What is it exactly?  Is it a 3/4g cell card (such as provided by a phone
> company), or something else?

If it is that sort of device there is no support for it in the installer.

It would be useful for us to see the output of 'lsusb'.

> >>> It seems that the minimal netinst doesn't install ppp
> >>
> >> It does. You may need to choose expert install in order to be able to
> >> select ppp extra packages.
> > 
> > 
> > In the expert mode, I select the two ppp packages, but even then the `pon'
> > command, which I use to connect, still remains `not found' by the system.
> 
> are those ppp packages being INSTALLED (or at least loaded into the
> minimal kernel) ... or are you selecting them for install after the PC
> finally connects to the internet?

In spite of the quote in the first mail in this thread and the reply by
Floris there is no support for PPP network connections in d-i:

  https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/install.txt.en

   The network can be used during the installation to retrieve files
   needed for the installation. Whether the network is used or not
   depends on the installation method you choose and your answers to
   certain questions that will be asked during the installation. The
   installation system supports most types of network connections
   (including PPPoE, but not ISDN or PPP), via either HTTP or FTP.
   After the installation is completed, you can also configure your
   system to use ISDN and PPP.

There is also #342656.

The modules under discussion are for use with PPPoE.


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Re: Network install

2015-01-30 Thread John Hasler
Rodolfo Medina writes:
>   My problem now is that after netinstall, even installing ppp in
> expert mode, that command turns to be `not found'

It seems to have been removed from ppp.  
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Re: HP 3050A is not printing anymore after debian update on jessie

2015-01-30 Thread Brian
On Fri 30 Jan 2015 at 11:55:59 +0100, Thomas Meier wrote:

> Am Donnerstag, 29. Januar 2015, 20:03:09 schrieb Brian:
> > On Sun 25 Jan 2015 at 12:28:17 +0100, Thomas wrote:
> > > I started the PC this morning, no printer was working so I used
> > > http://localhost:631/admin and AFTER this I used your commands, and this
> > > is
> > > the result:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > $ lpstat -t
> > > scheduler is running
> > > system default destination: HPDeskjet3050A
> > > device for HPDeskjet3050A:
> > > hp:/usb/Deskjet_3050A_J611_series?serial=CN1AJ485JC05PJ
> > > HPDeskjet3050A accepting requests since Sa 24 Jan 2015 23:07:04 CET
> > > printer HPDeskjet3050A is idle.  enabled since Sa 24 Jan 2015 23:07:04 CET
> > 
> > With that output it would expected that
> > 
> >   lp ~/.profile
> > 
> > would lead to a printout. Does it?
> > 
> > > If you need output ater PC started and BEFORE using cups admin let me
> > > know..
> > The 'lpstat -t' result should be the same as the previous one. But let
> > us see it anyway.
> 
> Hi,
> no printout...

The 'lpstat -t' output quoted above is for after the PC is started and
AFTER using cups admin. It clearly says the system default destination
is a print queue with the name 'HPDeskjet3050A'. 'lp ~/.profile' should
go to this print queue by default. 'lp -d HPDeskjet3050A ~/.profile'
also goes to the same queue.

> #:~$ lp ~/.profile
> lp: Error - no default destination available.
> 
> 
> #:~$ lpstat -t
> scheduler is running
> no system default destination
> device for HP_Deskjet_3050A_J611_series: 
> usb://HP/Deskjet%203050A%20J611%20series?serial=CN1AJ485JC05PJ&interface=1
> HP_Deskjet_3050A_J611_series accepting requests since Do 29 Jan 2015 17:53:22 
> CET
> printer HP_Deskjet_3050A_J611_series is idle.  enabled since Do 29 Jan 2015 
> 17:53:22 CET

This is what you get after the PC is started but BEFORE using cups
admin? This is a *different* print queue using a different device (which
is ok). The queue name is 'HP_Deskjet_3050A_J611_series' and there is no
system default destination. Therefore 'lp ~/.profile' will not work and
you have to use

   lp -d  HP_Deskjet_3050A_J611_series ~/.profile

Does that print?


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VMWre Player Full Screen Question

2015-01-30 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
I hope that someone on this list may have a solution.  I have looked at 
the VMWare Player pages on the web and have concluded that it's a real mess.


I am running Debian Testing (v-8 daily build) in VMWare player 
v-7.0.0-2305329 with the accompanying Tools on my 64 bit N+MS win 7 
Professional as a test bed prior to making the decision to update my 
main Linux computer.


On to the question!

When I open VMWare Player in Win 7 the window is not full screen. Now I 
selected the option to "Enter full screen mode after powering on".  This 
is what happens, but Debian is booting and opening to a user (or as 
root) in a smaller window.  In order to get Debian full screen it is 
necessary to toggle between "Exit full screen mode' and  "enter full 
screen mode" - usually several times.  This is rather annoying.


Is there a solution?

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Network install

2015-01-30 Thread Rodolfo Medina
I did more tests to the problem.  The situation is the following.

From:

 http://www.us.debian.org/CD/netinst/

I downloaded the file debian-7.8.0-i386-netinst.iso.  Now I have two
possibilities:

1) I burn that file onto CD-ROM and install Debian on PC using that CD-ROM.
   After the base installation, I do: `aptitude install ppp', the system asks
   to insert te CD-ROM, installs ppp and, from that moment, I can connect to
   internet and download the remaining packages.  The system is born, it lives
   its own life.  Everything is all right.

Instead,

2) I put debian-7.8.0-i386-netinst.iso onto pendrive instead that on CD-ROM,
   that is more simple, comfortable and practical.  Then there are problems.
   In fact, the base installation is done without problems just the same way as
   with the CD-ROM.  But, after it, if I do: `aptitude install ppp' in order to
   connect to internet and download the remaining packages, the system requires
   inserting a CD-ROM and won't see the pendrive.  This seems wrong to me
   because, if it's possibile to install the base Debian system via pendrive,
   logically it should also be possibile to install other packages like ppp.
   Then I tried, as someone suggested, to install ppp via expert mode through
   Debian Installer with the pendrive, but that's not possibile or, anyway, the
   installation is not as complete as with `aptitude install ppp', so that a
   connection cannot be established.  But the package, complete, *is* there and
   it *should* be possibile to load it.  Whereas it is not.

Thanks,

Rodolfo


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Re: Network install

2015-01-30 Thread Brad Rogers
On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 15:38:56 +
Rodolfo Medina  wrote:

Hello Rodolfo,

>   connect to internet and download the remaining packages, the system
> requires inserting a CD-ROM and won't see the pendrive. 

Somewhere, in your settings, you've still got the CD selected as a valid
source.  Remove it.  Then re-sync your sources.

You should now be able to install/upgrade software without reference to
CDs.

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Re: Fwd: New problem with GIMP plugin file-jpeg

2015-01-30 Thread Curt
On 2015-01-30, Lisi Reisz  wrote:
>
> What about the Japanese?
>

Sorry. What I read was restricted to anglophones.

What about illiterates?


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Re: Fwd: New problem with GIMP plugin file-jpeg

2015-01-30 Thread Curt
On 2015-01-30, Curt  wrote:
> On 2015-01-30, Lisi Reisz  wrote:
>>
>> What about the Japanese?
>>
>
> Sorry. What I read was restricted to anglophones.

Well, let's say "American Study" using empirical evidence gathered in
the good old USA applicable to, well, not the Japanese, obviously.

No, I'm not going vouch for the study nor bicker with anybody about it
any farther than this.

Sorry if it all wasn't clear to you from the beginning.

I'm outta here.

> What about illiterates?
>
>


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Re: Network install

2015-01-30 Thread Brian
On Fri 30 Jan 2015 at 15:38:56 +, Rodolfo Medina wrote:

> I did more tests to the problem.  The situation is the following.
> 
> From:
> 
>  http://www.us.debian.org/CD/netinst/
> 
> I downloaded the file debian-7.8.0-i386-netinst.iso.  Now I have two
> possibilities:
> 
> 1) I burn that file onto CD-ROM and install Debian on PC using that CD-ROM.
>After the base installation, I do: `aptitude install ppp', the system asks
>to insert te CD-ROM, installs ppp and, from that moment, I can connect to
>internet and download the remaining packages.  The system is born, it lives
>its own life.  Everything is all right.

By "install Debian" do you mean you go all the way through the installer
menu and then finish the install by booting into the new system? If so,
there is an easy solution to your particular problem.

I ask because of your use of the term "base installation" and the
reference to using aptitude.


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Re: VMWre Player Full Screen Question

2015-01-30 Thread Reco
 Hi.

On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 09:18:32 -0500
"Stephen P. Molnar"  wrote:

> When I open VMWare Player in Win 7 the window is not full screen. Now I 
> selected the option to "Enter full screen mode after powering on".  This 
> is what happens, but Debian is booting and opening to a user (or as 
> root) in a smaller window.  In order to get Debian full screen it is 
> necessary to toggle between "Exit full screen mode' and  "enter full 
> screen mode" - usually several times.  This is rather annoying.
> 
> Is there a solution?

So, let me rephrase. Some program running under Windows confuses you
as it likes to change its window size. You'd like to change this
behavior, but instead of using a direct approach (i.e. force the
program in question to be always fullscreen), you try to find a
workaround (i.e. forbid Debian to switch videomodes on boot).

Sorry, but you came to the wrong place. This is Debian users' list, not
Windows one. I doubt anyone can help you here, short of advising to
ditch VMWare along with Windows altogether.

Best I can personally offer is:

1) Ditch VMWare Player, use VirtualBox. VirtualBox may be not the best
virtualization solution, but it should work under Windows. Maybe. It's
been a long time since such things were of interest to me.

2) Force desired videomode in GRUB2 (I assume you use this bootloader
to boot Debian) by adding to /etc/default/grub:

GRUB_GFXMODE=
GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=keep

running 'update-grub' as root and rebooting Debian.

3) Reverse OSes. The natural way to run any kind of virtualization is
to run Linux.

Reco


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Re: Network install

2015-01-30 Thread Rodolfo Medina
Brian  writes:

> By "install Debian" do you mean you go all the way through the installer
> menu and then finish the install by booting into the new system?


I'll try to explain better (strange, it seems so clear to me).

The problem only occurs with pendrive stick, not with CD-ROM.  I.e.:

From:

 http://www.us.debian.org/CD/netinst/

I download the file debian-7.8.0-i386-netinst.iso and put it onto pendrive
stick, then start the installation trough the Debian Installer.  Everything
goes fine all the way through the installer menu until finishing the install by
booting into the new system.

At that point, I need installing ppp, because, once installed ppp, I'll be able
to connect to internet and download the remaining packages.  I do:

 # aptitude install ppp

The system tells me to insert the debian CD-ROM, because it `doesn't know' that
I have no CD-ROM at all, but instead a pendrive stick.  I insert the pendrive
stick with debian-7.8.0-i386-netinst.iso on it, but the system insists on
wanting a CD-ROM.

So I can't install ppp and so I won't be able to connect to internet.

At this point, someone from the list suggested to start Debian Installer in
expert mode and load the packages from there.  I tried, with no success.  That
way, the installation of ppp is not complete, not sufficient.

Hope it's clearer now.

Rodolfo


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Re: Network install

2015-01-30 Thread Dan Purgert
On 30/01/2015 14:36, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
> Brian  writes:
> 
>> By "install Debian" do you mean you go all the way through the installer
>> menu and then finish the install by booting into the new system?
> 
> 
> I'll try to explain better (strange, it seems so clear to me).
> 
> T[...]
> 
> At that point, I need installing ppp, because, once installed ppp, I'll be 
> able
> to connect to internet and download the remaining packages.  I do:
> 
>  # aptitude install ppp
> 
> The system tells me to insert the debian CD-ROM, [...] I insert the pendrive
> stick with debian-7.8.0-i386-netinst.iso on it, but the system insists on
> wanting a CD-ROM.

Fix /etc/apt/sources.list to point at the "correct device" that is your
"cdrom"


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Re: Network install

2015-01-30 Thread David Wright
Quoting Rodolfo Medina (rodolfo.med...@gmail.com):

>  http://www.us.debian.org/CD/netinst/
> 
> I download the file debian-7.8.0-i386-netinst.iso and put it onto pendrive
> stick, then start the installation trough the Debian Installer.  Everything
> goes fine all the way through the installer menu until finishing the install 
> by
> booting into the new system.
> 
> At that point, I need installing ppp, because, once installed ppp, I'll be 
> able
> to connect to internet and download the remaining packages.  I do:
> 
>  # aptitude install ppp
> 
> The system tells me to insert the debian CD-ROM, because it `doesn't know' 
> that
> I have no CD-ROM at all, but instead a pendrive stick.  I insert the pendrive
> stick with debian-7.8.0-i386-netinst.iso on it, but the system insists on
> wanting a CD-ROM.
> 
> So I can't install ppp and so I won't be able to connect to internet.

Insert the pendrive, and see where it's mounted (from the logs, console etc.)

mount -t auto /dev/sdZ1 /mnt

where Z is b, c, d as appropriate

apt-cdrom -d=/mnt add

aptitude ...

You'll probably want to remove the pendrive from apt's sources.list
pretty soon afterwards so that it doesn't keep being asked for.

Cheers,
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Re: GHOST, Am I ok?

2015-01-30 Thread Bob Bernstein
We like to say "there's no such thing as a dumb question," but in 
practice I find it difficult to post something like my OP on this 
GHOST question. I felt really dumb dumb dumb. 

So *thank you* Debian Folk for a gracious reception and a nice 
little thread following on my display of cognitive deficits!

Ya gotta love Debian!

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PDF forms and field issues

2015-01-30 Thread Bruce Ward
I created (LibreOffice) a PDF document with user-entry fields. Sent it 
to a friend with a Mac to check that it worked. He filled in fields and 
returned it to me saying it worked fine.


There is a problem in that the fields appear blank (except for the one 
checkbox). Having now tried a number of PDF 'viewers' on the document, I 
can report:
Evince (Gnome 'Document Viewer') - fields are blank until you click in 
the field. Click to another field and the first goes blank.

xpdf - fields are blank
GIMP - fields are blank (not surprised)
Inkscape - fields are blank (not surprising)
LibreOffice with pdfimport - fields are blank

imagemagick - shows fields properly!!!

Evince, GIMP, and xpdf when run from command-line all give
   Error: Unknown font in field's DA string

Any ideas on work-around?

Bruce
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Re: Network install

2015-01-30 Thread Brian
On Fri 30 Jan 2015 at 19:36:03 +, Rodolfo Medina wrote:

> Brian  writes:
> 
> > By "install Debian" do you mean you go all the way through the installer
> > menu and then finish the install by booting into the new system?
> 
> 
> I'll try to explain better (strange, it seems so clear to me).

Your explanation was full and understandable, apart from the lack of
clarity about booting into the new system before using aptitude. A "yes"
or "no" was all that was required in answer to my query.

1. Insert the USB stick carrying the netinst image and look at the
   output of dmesg. It will have something like 'sdg: sdg1' sdg1 is the
   partition which holds the image.

2. Next is the command

  mount /dev/sdg1 /mnt

   followed by

  ls -l /mnt

3. Your attention should focus on the pool directory.

4. 'ls -l /mnt/pool' and 'ls -l /mnt/pool/main' gets you exploring.

5. After checking, install the ppp package with

  dpkg -i /mnt/pool/main/p/ppp/ppp_2.4.5-5.1+b1_i386.deb

6. Carefully read the screen and curse me for leaving you to work out
   the last bit of the puzzle for yourself.


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Re: Network install

2015-01-30 Thread Brian
On Fri 30 Jan 2015 at 15:00:17 -0600, David Wright wrote:

> Quoting Rodolfo Medina (rodolfo.med...@gmail.com):
> > 
> > So I can't install ppp and so I won't be able to connect to internet.
> 
> Insert the pendrive, and see where it's mounted (from the logs, console etc.)
> 
> mount -t auto /dev/sdZ1 /mnt
> 
> where Z is b, c, d as appropriate
> 
> apt-cdrom -d=/mnt add

About a year ago I spent an afternoon investigating why this didn't work
for me. Locating the notes I made would take time.


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Re: PDF forms and field issues

2015-01-30 Thread Joel Rees
On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 5:50 AM, Bruce Ward  wrote:
> I created (LibreOffice) a PDF document with user-entry fields. Sent it to a
> friend with a Mac to check that it worked. He filled in fields and returned
> it to me saying it worked fine.
>
> There is a problem in that the fields appear blank (except for the one
> checkbox). Having now tried a number of PDF 'viewers' on the document, I can
> report:
> Evince (Gnome 'Document Viewer') - fields are blank until you click in the
> field. Click to another field and the first goes blank.
> xpdf - fields are blank
> GIMP - fields are blank (not surprised)
> Inkscape - fields are blank (not surprising)
> LibreOffice with pdfimport - fields are blank
>
> imagemagick - shows fields properly!!!
>
> Evince, GIMP, and xpdf when run from command-line all give
>Error: Unknown font in field's DA string
>
> Any ideas on work-around?

A font issue could definitely cause fields to not display.

Imagemagick is probably doing some sort of substitution. The rest seem
to be pickier.

Or, imagemagick can find fonts on your system the rest can't find.

Since Evince shows the contents while you are focused, I might guess
that evince is falling back to a default font for data entry. (I might
be guessing wrong, of course.)

I'd lean towards looking for a way to get the PDF viewers on your
system to figure out a good substitute for the (possibly Macintosh
specific) font that your friend's system seems to have used for the
data entry.

(I want to raise Cain with the US government for deciding that PDF
with forms should be the only way to submit certain kinds of
documents. When is the government of the "land of the free" going to
recognize that formats from companies that claim to own the
intellectual property used in the formats cannot be compatible with
freedom?)

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Look first in your own heart,
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Re: PDF forms and field issues

2015-01-30 Thread Anil Duggirala
Is there a way for you to check if specific fonts are being assigned to
the input fields? 
Im sure there are better suited tools for your purposes, have you tried
scribus?

On Sat, 2015-01-31 at 09:50 +1300, Bruce Ward wrote:
> I created (LibreOffice) a PDF document with user-entry fields. Sent it 
> to a friend with a Mac to check that it worked. He filled in fields and 
> returned it to me saying it worked fine.
> 
> There is a problem in that the fields appear blank (except for the one 
> checkbox). Having now tried a number of PDF 'viewers' on the document, I 
> can report:
> Evince (Gnome 'Document Viewer') - fields are blank until you click in 
> the field. Click to another field and the first goes blank.
> xpdf - fields are blank
> GIMP - fields are blank (not surprised)
> Inkscape - fields are blank (not surprising)
> LibreOffice with pdfimport - fields are blank
> 
> imagemagick - shows fields properly!!!
> 
> Evince, GIMP, and xpdf when run from command-line all give
> Error: Unknown font in field's DA string
> 
> Any ideas on work-around?
> 
> Bruce
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Re: Network install

2015-01-30 Thread David Wright
Quoting Brian (a...@cityscape.co.uk):
> On Fri 30 Jan 2015 at 15:00:17 -0600, David Wright wrote:
> 
> > Quoting Rodolfo Medina (rodolfo.med...@gmail.com):
> > > 
> > > So I can't install ppp and so I won't be able to connect to internet.
> > 
> > Insert the pendrive, and see where it's mounted (from the logs, console 
> > etc.)
> > 
> > mount -t auto /dev/sdZ1 /mnt
> > 
> > where Z is b, c, d as appropriate
> > 
> > apt-cdrom -d=/mnt add
> 
> About a year ago I spent an afternoon investigating why this didn't work
> for me. Locating the notes I made would take time.

Ditto. Yes, you also need to stop it unmounting and so on. Thus

apt-cdrom -d /mnt --no-auto-detect -m add

will do it, where "it" is to stick

deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Jessie_ - Official Snapshot i386 NETINST 
Binary-1 ]/ jessie main

in /etc/apt/sources.list and check the contents.

Cheers,
David.


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list non auto packages

2015-01-30 Thread Rusi Mody
Is there a way to get the  packages the user has installed?

Yeah I know that
dpkg --get-selections
will get ALL packages

How to filter out the zillions of lib... and only see what was manually 
installed?

Yeah I remember some answer to this a few months ago.
The closest I can get is

aptitude search '~M~i'

but it still lists a large number of libs


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Re: Problems playing stuff on Soundcloud

2015-01-30 Thread Paul Werner
Hi

I had the same problem here - pressing the play-button resulted in a
calming animation, but no sound at all. I solved the problem by
deactivating the Adblock- plugin on the Soundcloud-page. Do you have
something similar installed?

Paul


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Re: list non auto packages

2015-01-30 Thread David Wright
Quoting Rusi Mody (rustompm...@gmail.com):
> Is there a way to get the  packages the user has installed?
> 
> Yeah I know that
> dpkg --get-selections
> will get ALL packages
> 
> How to filter out the zillions of lib... and only see what was manually 
> installed?

Would it help to look at /var/log/aptitude...
[INSTALL] lines but not [INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES],

and also /var/log/apt/history.log...
Install:  () lines but not (, automatic).

Cheers,
David.


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Re: list non auto packages

2015-01-30 Thread Bob Proulx
Rusi Mody wrote:
> Is there a way to get the  packages the user has installed?

Try:

  apt-mark showmanual

That will show any package that was explicitly installed.  That is,
not pulled in automatically as a dependency.  The command is new for
Wheezy and later.  Older systems do not have that feature.

Bob


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Re: list non auto packages

2015-01-30 Thread Doug

On 01/30/2015 11:55 PM, Bob Proulx wrote:

Rusi Mody wrote:

Is there a way to get the  packages the user has installed?


Try:

   apt-mark showmanual

That will show any package that was explicitly installed.  That is,
not pulled in automatically as a dependency.  The command is new for
Wheezy and later.  Older systems do not have that feature.

Bob


If you downloaded the package from somewhere, the original file may
still be in your Downloads directory.

--doug


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