Re: Copying complete SET of installation DVDs to a USB stick

2014-04-13 Thread Rick Thomas
As per debian list etiquette my reply is at the bottom...

On Apr 12, 2014, at 7:01 AM, Richard Owlett  wrote:

> I will be installing Debian at locations which DO NOT have internet.
> Instead of juggling a stack of DVDs, I want everything on a USB stick.
> I am using Debian 6.0.5 as test case - it's what I have available.
> There was no problem copying the first DVD to the beginning of the USB stick 
> with dd.
> I did a preliminary test by booting to the USB stick and the install program 
> apparently worked OK.
> 
> I rebooted to an operable system and created a large partition on the 
> remainder of the flash drive. I then attempted to copy DVDs to the flash 
> drive using first
>cp -r -l /media/cdrom0 /media/mydrive/disk1
> I aborted when started receiving error messages of failure with link files.
> I then tried
>cp -r -l /media/cdrom0 /media/mydrive/disk1
> I aborted that also reviving similar error messages.
> 
> How should I be doing this?

Hi Richard,

Have you tried using dd to make images of the DVDs on the extended part of the 
USB stick?  E.g.:
# put DVD1 in the drive
dd if=/dev/cdrom0 of=/media/mydrive/DVD1.iso bs=1M
eject cdrom
# put DVD2 in the drive
dd if=/dev/cdrom0 of=/media/mydrive/DVD2.iso bs=1M
# and so on...
them loop-mounting the images?

I'm not sure what you would have to do inside the installer to get the 
loop-mounted images into the installers "sources.list" file, but I'm sure a bit 
of wiki and/or FAQ scratching would answer that question.  Once you figure out 
the necessary magic, you can probably pre-seed it into your installer image on 
the front part of the USB stick.

I know this is just a sketch of a solution, but it's all I've got time for 
right now.  Anyway, it's the approach I'd take if I had the problem.

Hope it helps!
Good luck and let us know if you come up with something that works!

Rick

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Re: apt-get doesn't upgrade, but synaptic does

2014-04-13 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sat, 12 Apr 2014 20:59:02 -0700
Patrick Bartek  wrote:

Hello Patrick,

>I rechecked, and the metapackage is removed, but not any of libreoffice
>modules.  Ultimately, I just purged each of the modules by name, then
>autoremove the orphaned dependencies.
>
>There should be an easier way.

Maybe, IDK.  In any case, if the behaviour of meta-packages were to be
changed, I'm sure there would be some quite heated discussion about the
matter.

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Re: Cropping a large collection of .PNG screenshots

2014-04-13 Thread Cousin Stanley

>> # convert source -crop widthxheight+wo+ho target

> Ah, gotcha. No problem. In the specific case of cropping, 
> it's pretty simple; other tasks, maybe the balance would 
> be tipped the other way. 
>
> In any case, it's only because of familiarity; I'll reach 
> for the hammer I know rather than the excellent tool 
> that I'd need to spend more time reading docs for 
> than running :)

  Some good imagemagick docs for reading
  if and when you have time  

http://www.imagemagick.org/Usage/

http://www.imagemagick.org/script/examples.php
  

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Re: My fellow (Debian) Linux users ...

2014-04-13 Thread David Guntner
John Hasler grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
> Henrique writes:
>> It also includes the emails that were read over a
>> heartbleed-vulnerable IMAP, and every data that went over a
>> heartbleed-vulnerable VPN tunnel, for example.
> 
> I wasn't aware that IMAP and VPN used heartbeat.  I don't see that IMAP
> is all that serious, though.  Email isn't secure anyway.

That's all well and good, but I suspect that you probably don't login to
your IMAP server by sending your username and password in the clear.
And with a vulnerable version of the library, that's the kind of
information that an attacker can get access to.

> But I wonder how many VPN users are aware that they have a problem?

It would depend on what library was in use (OpenSSL or another) and what
version if OpenSSL.  The VPN provider that I use conducted a complete
survey of their systems and determined that none of their critical
infrastructure was vulnerable, but they still decided to revoke and
rotate their certs and private keys just as an additional precautionary
measure.

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Voice control

2014-04-13 Thread brian
My wife has contracted RSD (otherwise known as CRPS) affecting her
hands, and it's become very painful for her to use her PC. She can
cope with a mouse, just, but typing is a major problem for her.

Does anyone have any recommendations for (better yet, personal
experience with) voice-to-text software? We're using Debian 7 64-bit.

I know Dragon is the big name in the Windows world, so the fallback
would be a Windows virtual machine and Naturally Speaking, but I'd
like to stick with a Linux solution if it's possible.

Thanks.


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Re: Voice control

2014-04-13 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
Hi

On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 05:21:09AM -0400, brian wrote:
> My wife has contracted RSD (otherwise known as CRPS) affecting her
> hands, and it's become very painful for her to use her PC. She can
> cope with a mouse, just, but typing is a major problem for her.
> 
> Does anyone have any recommendations for (better yet, personal
> experience with) voice-to-text software? We're using Debian 7 64-bit.

Sorry to hear that :-(

I have no experience with voice-to-text software - I assume you're
already enabled the accessibility features - e.g. Orca and the like?

Other interesting text input methodologies like Dasher may be useful
too..

Not for typing, but in my past interweb wanderings I came across this
one:

  http://eviacam.sourceforge.net/

Perhaps that will be helpful?  I gave up playing with it when I
switched to a laptop without a built-in webcam...

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Adobe flash security

2014-04-13 Thread Rob van der Putten

Hi there


http://helpx.adobe.com/security/products/flash-player/apsb14-09.html
Does this effect Debian?


Regards,
Rob



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Re: Voice control

2014-04-13 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Hi Brian!

Am Sonntag, 13. April 2014, 05:21:09 schrieb brian:
> My wife has contracted RSD (otherwise known as CRPS) affecting her
> hands, and it's become very painful for her to use her PC. She can
> cope with a mouse, just, but typing is a major problem for her.
> 
> Does anyone have any recommendations for (better yet, personal
> experience with) voice-to-text software? We're using Debian 7 64-bit.
> 
> I know Dragon is the big name in the Windows world, so the fallback
> would be a Windows virtual machine and Naturally Speaking, but I'd
> like to stick with a Linux solution if it's possible.

I recommend looking at Simon listens:

http://simon.kde.org/

I didn´t yet test it, but from what I saw it enables replacing keyboard and 
mouse by voice and is even used for home robotics.

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Re: debmirror not installing libdigest-sha-perl, even though it is a dependency

2014-04-13 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 10 apr 14, 21:24:38, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
> On 4/9/14, Kushal Kumaran  wrote:
> > Zenaan Harkness  writes:
> >> Any idea why the following:
> >>
> >> $ dpkg -s debmirror|grep Status
> >> Status: install ok installed
> >>
> >> $ apt-cache show debmirror|grep Depends
> >> Depends: perl (>= 5.10), libnet-perl, libdigest-md5-perl,
> >> libdigest-sha-perl, liblockfile-simple-perl, rsync, bzip2, libwww-perl
> >> (>= 5.815), libnet-inet6glue-perl
> >>
> >> $ dpkg -s libdigest-sha-perl|grep Status
> >> dpkg-query: package 'libdigest-sha-perl' is not installed and no
> >> information is available
> >
> > The perl package provides libdigest-sha-perl.
> > https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/libdigest-sha-perl
> 
> So why is it also a separate package? It is clear I am not
> understanding something here.

Not sure what you're looking for, but let me try to explain:

debmirror Depends: libdigest-sha-perl. From the output above it seems 
that on your system the dependency is satisfied by the Provides: 
libdigest-sha-perl of package perl, so there is no reason to have the 
real package libdigest-sha-perl installed.

dpkg can't tell anything about the libdigest-sha-perl package because 
it's not installed on your system.

Hope this explains,
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Squid netdb

2014-04-13 Thread Rob van der Putten

Hi there


I'm tinkering a bit with Squid. Build a backport [1].
Does anyone know what the contents of /var/log/squid3/netdb.state means? 
Some things are obvious, others are not.


[1] http://www.sput.nl/software/squid33.html


Regards,
Rob



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Re: AMD Graphics on Debian 7.4

2014-04-13 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 13 April 2014 03:28:42 ray wrote:
> > > Error: unsupported architecture:
> >
> > I haven't been reading this properly.  Sorry. :-(  Are your
> > distro,
> >
> > your driver and your CPU all the same architecture?
>
> Yes, from the dpkg --print-architecture --> amd64, the CPU is an
> Intel i7-3930K, and the Catalyst package is
> amd-catalyst-13.12-linux-x86.x86_64.run.
>
> >It is complaining about the architecture, not the distro version.
> >
> > Have you got multiarch installed?
>
> Not that I know of.  So I did the following:
>
> # dpkg --print-architecture
> amd64
>
> # dpkg --print-foreign-architectures
> # dpkg --add-architecture i386
> # dpkg --print-architecture
> amd64
>
> # dpkg --print-foreign-architectures
> i386
>
> apt-get update
> Hit http://ftp.us.debian.org wheezy Release.gpg
> ...
> Fetched 6,647 kB in 18s (357 kB/s)
> Reading package lists... Done
>
>
> Then:
>
> # sh ./amd-catalyst-13.12-linux-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg
> Debian/stable Created directory fglrx-install.hrcfIz
> Verifying archive integrity... All good.
> Uncompressing AMD Catalyst(TM) Proprietary Driver-13.251...
> ...
> Generating package: Debian/stable
> ./packages/Debian/ati-packager.sh: 1:
> ./packages/Debian/ati-packager.sh: dpkg-architecture: not found
> Error: unsupported architecture:
> Removing temporary directory: fglrx-install.hrcfIz
>
> I have looked but can't find what 'dpkg-architecture: not found'
> means, none the less, how to address it.

Would it be worth just trying installing multiarch?  With one of the 
apt family.  (I use aptitude).  I agree that it is not obviously 
needed, but it is apparently not there, and the problem now is 
something to do with the architecture.

Lisi


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Re: Cropping a large collection of .PNG screenshots

2014-04-13 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 12 apr 14, 12:26:48, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 00:43:45 +0300
> Andrei POPESCU  wrote:
> 
> > On Mi, 09 apr 14, 08:59:51, Steve Litt wrote:
> > > 
> > > Or, you can just redirect ls into a file, use Vim to convert and
> > > rename each file individually.
> > 
> > Could you please elaborate on this?
> 
> ls -1 *.png > doit.sh
> chmod a+x doit.sh
> gvim doit.sh
> :%s/^/doconvert  /
> ggi
> function doconvert(){
>  mv $1 $1.bak
>  convert -crop whatever $1.bak $1
> }
> :wq
> ./doit.sh

(g)vim seems overkill to me.

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Re: My fellow (Debian) Linux users ...

2014-04-13 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Hello!

Am Samstag, 12. April 2014, 21:03:36 schrieb Ralf Mardorf:
> On Sat, 2014-04-12 at 20:48 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > I experience issues with Debian lists :(. _With Debian lists only_ :(.
> > 
> > :( I'm still subscribed to d-community-offtopic, I checked it, however,
> > 
> > my latest mail didn't come through the list:
> My apologies, it was delayed and did came trough right now :)

Honestly – please anyone who has the feeling that the mailing list software 
does not work or send mails to their account:

*First* and *foremost* give it some patience…

… and check *your own* setup. At least check:

- Your subscription status – by subscribing again for example.

- Check with a different mail account.


Only if you are confident that your setup is working 100%, then write a mail to 
the listmasters to check on their side.


Please, pretty please.

Cause honestly I am quite a bit fed up with the recent "the mailing list does 
not work" posting.



I assume that most of the subscribers receive mails as do I for example.

And I assume that the mailing list software *just works*.


So I assume that the likelyhood of it being a problem on *your* side is next 
to 100%.


(Thread set to ignored.]

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Re: Cropping a large collection of .PNG screenshots

2014-04-13 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 13/04/14 20:21, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Sb, 12 apr 14, 12:26:48, Steve Litt wrote:
>> On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 00:43:45 +0300
>> Andrei POPESCU  wrote:
>>
>>> On Mi, 09 apr 14, 08:59:51, Steve Litt wrote:

 Or, you can just redirect ls into a file, use Vim to convert and
 rename each file individually.
>>>
>>> Could you please elaborate on this?
>>
>> ls -1 *.png > doit.sh

for i in `ls *.png`;

>> chmod a+x doit.sh
>> gvim doit.sh
>> :%s/^/doconvert  /
>> ggi
>> function doconvert(){
>>  mv $1 $1.bak

# WxH+X+Y
do convert $i -crop 600x400+0+600 crop_$i;


>>  convert -crop whatever $1.bak $1
>> }
>> :wq
>> ./doit.sh

done

> 
> (g)vim seems overkill to me.
> 
> Kind regards,
> Andrei
> 

Agreed.

Kind regards


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Re: Adobe flash security

2014-04-13 Thread Артур Истомин
On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 12:03:11PM +0200, Rob van der Putten wrote:
> Hi there
> 
> 
> http://helpx.adobe.com/security/products/flash-player/apsb14-09.html
> Does this effect Debian?

Yes, affect.

# update-flashplugin-nonfree --status
Flash Player version installed on this system  : 11.2.202.335
Flash Player version available on upstream site: 11.2.202.350

To update this fucked proprietary software, run:
# update-flashplugin-nonfree --install

Thanks for reminder.


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Re: Cropping a large collection of .PNG screenshots

2014-04-13 Thread shawn wilson
On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 6:03 AM, Kevin O'Gorman  wrote:
> I have a few hundred screen shots I want to put on a web page, but
> they are all full-screen and I want to crop to the real contents.
> This is an identical region in all cases.  So I want to script it.
>
> So, 2 questions:
> A) What's the best tool for the job?  Gimp, irfanview, or something else?
> B) Is there a script already in existence where I can just change the
> crop rectangle?  I really don't want to learn a new language for a
> one-time job.
>

After seeing tons of different scripts and no response to your idea of
irfanview, I figured I'd put my $.02 in Irfanview is a Windows
program and this is a linux forum. Other than that, it is what I'd
recommend someone look at in order to attempt to do this before I had
to write them a one off script. Last I checked there is no linux port
of irfanview. You could look at xnview/xnconvert and after you figure
out the cli options, run it through a loop or xargs or find exec.

You could also look for a gimpscript (basically python iirc) to do
this there. Or if this is something you will need to repeat, you might
look into writing it.


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Re: Adobe flash security

2014-04-13 Thread Rob van der Putten

Hi there


Артур Истомин wrote:


Yes, affect.

# update-flashplugin-nonfree --status
Flash Player version installed on this system  : 11.2.202.335
Flash Player version available on upstream site: 11.2.202.350

To update this fucked proprietary software, run:
# update-flashplugin-nonfree --install


Somehow this doesn't update the software.


Regards,
Rob



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Re: S-Video on ThinkPad T42 with Debian Jessie - can't get above 800x600

2014-04-13 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 1:39 AM, Chris Angelico  wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 12:50 AM, Chris Angelico  wrote:
>> I've just converted a laptop from Windows XP to Debian Jessie, with
>> the expectation that I'd be able to do everything at least as well as
>> before. That's been mostly true, but I'm stuck on a problem with the
>> S-Video output: whatever I do, the TV shows only 800x600.
>
> In the interests of experimentation, I live-booted AntiX on that same
> hardware. The result is exactly the same; xrandr says the S-video
> output is in its only mode of 800x600 60Hz, and telling it to go
> 1024x768 just results in the top left 800x600 being visible.

Further experimentation has revealed a rather interesting result. It
seems that Windows was claiming that it was driving the S-video at
1024x768, but was actually stretching it down to 800x600. Short of
reinstalling Windows (which I will not do!), I have no way to prove
this, but anecdotal evidence is that text is a bit more readable now.
So it's looking like 800x600 is all we really get anyway. Everything's
working other than that, so I'm basically going to consider the matter
closed, unless anyone has fancy ideas to try.

ChrisA


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Re: My fellow (Debian) Linux users ...

2014-04-13 Thread Rick Thomas
On Apr 13, 2014, at 3:21 AM, Martin Steigerwald  wrote:

> Hello!
> 
> Am Samstag, 12. April 2014, 21:03:36 schrieb Ralf Mardorf:
>> On Sat, 2014-04-12 at 20:48 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>>> I experience issues with Debian lists :(. _With Debian lists only_ :(.
>>> 
>>> :( I'm still subscribed to d-community-offtopic, I checked it, however,
>>> 
>>> my latest mail didn't come through the list:
>> My apologies, it was delayed and did came trough right now :)
> 
> Honestly – please anyone who has the feeling that the mailing list software 
> does not work or send mails to their account:
> *First* and *foremost* give it some patience…
> … and check *your own* setup. At least check:
> - Your subscription status – by subscribing again for example.
> - Check with a different mail account.
> Only if you are confident that your setup is working 100%, then write a mail 
> to 
> the listmasters to check on their side.
> Please, pretty please.
> Cause honestly I am quite a bit fed up with the recent "the mailing list does 
> not work" posting.
> I assume that most of the subscribers receive mails as do I for example.
> And I assume that the mailing list software *just works*.
> So I assume that the likelyhood of it being a problem on *your* side is next 
> to 100%.
> (Thread set to ignored.]
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Too bad that Martin won't see this reply since he's ignoring the thread it will 
appear under...

This particular problem is one of the very few cases where it turns out not to 
be a problem with the user's configuration.  Neither is it a problem with the 
mailing-list configuration -- unless you count "believing and acting upon 
standards" as a fault in the mailing list configuration.

For a fuller explanation, see:
http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf/current/msg87153.html 

Rick

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Re: Adobe flash security

2014-04-13 Thread Rob van der Putten

Hi there


Rob van der Putten wrote:


Somehow this doesn't update the software.


Is just noticed that there is a bug reposrt;
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=744263


Regards,
Rob



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Re: Can't patch Heartbleed bug?

2014-04-13 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 11 apr 14, 14:19:29, Reco wrote:
> 
> 'aptitude changelog' won't do one any good unless one has some deb-src
> entries in sources.list.
 
That's a bug in aptitude[1], the changelog downloading doesn't have 
anything to do with source packages.

[1] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=587775

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Re: GNOME dependencies (was ... Re: apt-get doesn't upgrade, but synaptic does)

2014-04-13 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 10:50:03AM +0400, Reco wrote:
> Hi.
> 
> On Sun, 13 Apr 2014 16:18:01 +1200
> Chris Bannister  wrote:
> 
> > On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 12:26:10AM -0400, PaulNM wrote:
> > > paul@debguis2:~$ aptitude why libreoffice-writer
> > > i   gnome Depends libreoffice-writer | abiword (>= 2.8)
> > 
> > WTF. Shouldn't that be a recommends?
> > 
> > Seems like a bug to me.
> 
> So, if you have free time to spare you're free to fill an appropriate
> bug.

I don't use GNOME, so I'll leave that to you. :)
GNOME is one of the reasons I use a Window Manager. :)

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Re: GNOME dependencies (was ... Re: apt-get doesn't upgrade, but synaptic does)

2014-04-13 Thread Reco
On Sun, 13 Apr 2014 23:21:55 +1200
Chris Bannister  wrote:

> I don't use GNOME, so I'll leave that to you. :)
> GNOME is one of the reasons I use a Window Manager. :)

Nah, I'll pass. Stopped using GNOME back in 2007, never looked back
since then.

Reco


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Re: Adobe flash security

2014-04-13 Thread Артур Истомин
On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 01:05:53PM +0200, Rob van der Putten wrote:
> Hi there
> 
> 
> Rob van der Putten wrote:
> 
> >Somehow this doesn't update the software.
> 
> Is just noticed that there is a bug reposrt;
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=744263

I am on testing and it work for me. And yes, I remember I had the same
problems on stable with update-flashplugin-nonfree.

Anyway you can download it manualy, unpack and put it to
/usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so


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Re: the importance of defaults ( was: Debian default desktop environment )

2014-04-13 Thread alberto fuentes
On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 6:51 AM, Chris Bannister
 wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 12:17:47PM +0200, alberto fuentes wrote:
>> tl;dr
>
> http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/tldr

In this case I used it like, my mail is just my own opinion and if you
dont want to read the mail of yet another skewed opinion, at least
watch the presentation that is the interesting part. Its the subject
of the mail as well, the importance of defaults. which is pretty
objective

> I've always considered Debian to be closer to the NetBSD goals and
> objectives and the derivatives closer to the PC-BSD goals and
> objectives.
>
> I believe this distinction is important and is currently the source of
> contention within the Debian project.
>
> Thoughts?

Yeah, well, no default desktop at all and make user pick one is
another option with a lot of supporters. I agree is bikeshedding in
the debian context since the goals of the project are others like you
suggest. Give the user more responsability...

> OTOH, the features which attract some users could be the very features
which scare others away.

Its just a default. Power users can still dont install desktop or the
one they like. This default wont scare anybody away. It only has the
potential to attract more new users that have a first contact if at
all.

I do think defaults are powerful and to have users is very important
as well. Among the "leechers" there are the 2% of new contributors

And I dont think we should be disruptive in the transition to jessie



This mail was intended for another list anyway. Sorry it ended up here
in debian-user


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Re: My fellow (Debian) Linux users ...

2014-04-13 Thread Curt
On 2014-04-13, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI  wrote:
> On 20h20 12 de Abril de 2014, Steve Litt wrote:
>> I'm changing every password: That's about 100 of them.
>
> That's a good thing to do, but only after the server has patched
> openssl and changed its certificate. Otherwise someone could have
> captured the private key and other information that could be used to
> eavesdrop your newly changed password.

This online tester:

http://possible.lv/tools/hb/

provides this sort of output in the critical case:

ext 65281 (renegotiation info, length=1)
ext 00011 (EC point formats, length=4)
ext 00035 (session ticket, length=0)
ext 00015 (heartbeat, length=1) <-- Your server supports heartbeat. Bug
is possible when linking against OpenSSL 1.0.1f or older. Let me check.
Actively checking if CVE-2014-0160 works: Your server appears to be
patched against this bug.

Checking your certificate
Certificate has been reissued since the 0day. Good. <-- Have you
changed the passwords?


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Re: Copying complete SET of installation DVDs to a USB stick

2014-04-13 Thread Richard Owlett

Chris Bannister wrote:

On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 09:01:05AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:

I will be installing Debian at locations which DO NOT have internet.
Instead of juggling a stack of DVDs, I want everything on a USB stick.
I am using Debian 6.0.5 as test case - it's what I have available.
There was no problem copying the first DVD to the beginning of the USB stick
with dd.
I did a preliminary test by booting to the USB stick and the install program
apparently worked OK.

I rebooted to an operable system and created a large partition on the
remainder of the flash drive. I then attempted to copy DVDs to the flash
drive using first
 cp -r -l /media/cdrom0 /media/mydrive/disk1
I aborted when started receiving error messages of failure with link files.
I then tried
 cp -r -l /media/cdrom0 /media/mydrive/disk1
I aborted that also reviving similar error messages.

How should I be doing this?


man cp

IOW you are probably missing an option, perhaps the -a, or even the -H?

This is only a suggestion, I'd play around with them and see which one
gives the desired behaviour.



I had read both the manpage and textinfo for cp.
That doesn't mean I understood what I read.
Your references to "-a" and "-H" clued me in to how I misread 
description of "-l".


I suspect that Rick's suggestion to investigate loop mounting an 
iso image is a better match for my ill-defined mental image of 
what I'm trying to do.


Thank you.



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Re: Copying complete SET of installation DVDs to a USB stick

2014-04-13 Thread Richard Owlett

Rick Thomas wrote:

As per debian list etiquette my reply is at the bottom...

On Apr 12, 2014, at 7:01 AM, Richard Owlett  wrote:


I will be installing Debian at locations which DO NOT have internet.
Instead of juggling a stack of DVDs, I want everything on a USB stick.
I am using Debian 6.0.5 as test case - it's what I have available.
There was no problem copying the first DVD to the beginning of the USB stick 
with dd.
I did a preliminary test by booting to the USB stick and the install program 
apparently worked OK.

I rebooted to an operable system and created a large partition on the remainder 
of the flash drive. I then attempted to copy DVDs to the flash drive using first
cp -r -l /media/cdrom0 /media/mydrive/disk1
I aborted when started receiving error messages of failure with link files.
I then tried
cp -r -l /media/cdrom0 /media/mydrive/disk1
I aborted that also reviving similar error messages.

How should I be doing this?


Hi Richard,

Have you tried using dd to make images of the DVDs on the extended part of the 
USB stick?  E.g.:
 # put DVD1 in the drive
 dd if=/dev/cdrom0 of=/media/mydrive/DVD1.iso bs=1M
 eject cdrom
 # put DVD2 in the drive
 dd if=/dev/cdrom0 of=/media/mydrive/DVD2.iso bs=1M
 # and so on...
them loop-mounting the images?

I'm not sure what you would have to do inside the installer to get the loop-mounted 
images into the installers "sources.list" file, but I'm sure a bit of wiki 
and/or FAQ scratching would answer that question.  Once you figure out the necessary 
magic, you can probably pre-seed it into your installer image on the front part of the 
USB stick.

I know this is just a sketch of a solution, but it's all I've got time for 
right now.  Anyway, it's the approach I'd take if I had the problem.

Hope it helps!
Good luck and let us know if you come up with something that works!

Rick



I hadn't thought of loop mounting.
A Google search yielded:
https://wiki.debian.org/IsoBuster
https://wiki.debian.org/CDToPool

I've only skimmed them but it's encouraging enough that I'll 
making iso images of my DVDs.


Thanks.


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Re: Cropping a large collection of .PNG screenshots

2014-04-13 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 13 apr 14, 20:33:00, Scott Ferguson wrote:
> 
> for i in `ls *.png`;

Is there something wrong with

for i in *.png

?

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Re: Cropping a large collection of .PNG screenshots

2014-04-13 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 13/04/14 22:05, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Du, 13 apr 14, 20:33:00, Scott Ferguson wrote:
>>
>> for i in `ls *.png`;
> 
> Is there something wrong with
> 
> for i in *.png
> 
> ?

Yes.
It leaves no room for improvement.

> 
> Kind regards,
> Andrei
> 

Kind regards


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Re: Cropping a large collection of .PNG screenshots

2014-04-13 Thread Curt
On 2014-04-13, Andrei POPESCU  wrote:
>
>> for i in `ls *.png`;
>
> Is there something wrong with
>
> for i in *.png

According to this, there is everything right:

http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashPitfalls#for_i_in_.24.28ls_.2A.mp3.29

# POSIX
for i in *.png; do
[ -e "$i" ] || continue
some command "$i"
done


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Re: Adobe flash security

2014-04-13 Thread Rob van der Putten

Hi there


Артур Истомин wrote:


I am on testing and it work for me.


Which has the same dependencies. So I installed it on stable. It wants;
http://people.debian.org/~bartm/flashplugin-nonfree/fp.11.2.202.350.sha512.i386.pgp.asc
Which doesn't exist.




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Re: Adobe flash security

2014-04-13 Thread Slavko
Hi,

Dňa Sun, 13 Apr 2014 10:31:01 + Артур Истомин 
napísal:

> # update-flashplugin-nonfree --status
> Flash Player version installed on this system  : 11.2.202.335
> Flash Player version available on upstream site: 11.2.202.350
> 
> To update this fucked proprietary software, run:
> # update-flashplugin-nonfree --install
> 

At my testing:

update-flashplugin-nonfree --status
Flash Player version installed on this system  : 11.2.202.346
Flash Player version available on upstream site: 11.2.202.350

the 11.2.202.350 is not installed by the mentioned --install command

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Re: Network Manager networking disabled after suspend

2014-04-13 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 11.04.2014 16:26, schrieb Patrick Wiseman:

> I have two frequently updated testing systems and I'm seeing this
> problem on only one of them (both laptops, both typically connected
> via wifi). On the one with the problem, after suspend the nm-applet
> shows networking disabled

This is fixed in:


network-manager (0.9.8.8-6) unstable; urgency=medium

  [ Laurent Bigonville ]
  * Rework the fix for #734460, kill NetworkManager in the postinst script
instead of the preinst one to minimize downtime on big upgrades

  [ Michael Biebl ]
  * Don't setup Sleep Monitor if system was not booted with systemd. With a
standalone logind we don't receive the Resume signal after a suspend
request and NetworkManager remains in sleep mode where the devices are
unmanaged. (Closes: #742933)
  * Use dh-autoreconf to update the build system. Override dh_autoreconf since
we need to run gtkdocize.

 -- Michael Biebl   Sat, 12 Apr 2014 12:48:33 +0200

Will enter testing in 4 days.

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Re: Cropping a large collection of .PNG screenshots

2014-04-13 Thread Jonathan Dowland


> On 13 Apr 2014, at 11:33, Scott Ferguson 
>  wrote:
> 
> for i in `ls *.png`;

Never parse the output of ls.

for i in *.png;

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Re: Adobe flash security

2014-04-13 Thread Stephen Allen
On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 02:36:43PM +0200, Slavko wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Dňa Sun, 13 Apr 2014 10:31:01 + Артур Истомин 
> napísal:
> 
> > # update-flashplugin-nonfree --status
> > Flash Player version installed on this system  : 11.2.202.335
> > Flash Player version available on upstream site: 11.2.202.350
> > 
> > To update this fucked proprietary software, run:
> > # update-flashplugin-nonfree --install
> > 
> 
> At my testing:
> 
> update-flashplugin-nonfree --status
> Flash Player version installed on this system  : 11.2.202.346
> Flash Player version available on upstream site: 11.2.202.350
> 
> the 11.2.202.350 is not installed by the mentioned --install command
---end quoted text---

+1 Not installed. :(


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Re: Adobe flash security

2014-04-13 Thread Rob van der Putten

Hi there


Stephen Allen wrote:


+1 Not installed. :(


A manual install, as suggested by Arthur, works.
For i386, download;
http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/pdc/11.2.202.350/install_flash_player_11_linux.i386.tar.gz
I renamed /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so to 
libflashplayer.so.bak and copied the libflashplayer.so from the tar to 
/usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/

A bit blunt, but it will have to do for now.


Regards,
Rob



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Re: Cropping a large collection of .PNG screenshots

2014-04-13 Thread Steve Litt
On Sun, 13 Apr 2014 13:21:19 +0300
Andrei POPESCU  wrote:

> On Sb, 12 apr 14, 12:26:48, Steve Litt wrote:
> > On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 00:43:45 +0300
> > Andrei POPESCU  wrote:
> > 
> > > On Mi, 09 apr 14, 08:59:51, Steve Litt wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Or, you can just redirect ls into a file, use Vim to convert and
> > > > rename each file individually.
> > > 
> > > Could you please elaborate on this?
> > 
> > ls -1 *.png > doit.sh
> > chmod a+x doit.sh
> > gvim doit.sh
> > :%s/^/doconvert  /
> > ggi
> > function doconvert(){
> >  mv $1 $1.bak
> >  convert -crop whatever $1.bak $1
> > }
> > :wq
> > ./doit.sh
> 
> (g)vim seems overkill to me.

Quick, relatively safe, and mistake-resistant, and without the immense
downside risk of various one-liners.

SteveT

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unsuscribe

2014-04-13 Thread Julio González

El 25/01/14 14:41, debian-user-digest-requ...@lists.debian.org escribió:


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Re: Adobe flash security

2014-04-13 Thread Артур Истомин
On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 11:32:48AM +, Артур Истомин wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 01:05:53PM +0200, Rob van der Putten wrote:
> > Hi there
> > 
> > 
> > Rob van der Putten wrote:
> > 
> > >Somehow this doesn't update the software.
> > 
> > Is just noticed that there is a bug reposrt;
> > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=744263
> 
> I am on testing and it work for me. And yes, I remember I had the same
> problems on stable with update-flashplugin-nonfree.
> 
> Anyway you can download it manualy, unpack and put it to
> /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so

Oops, guys. I am liar, I am sorry. I just only re-check and really
version flash player does not upgraded for me too.

So, let's upgrade this stupid software manualy together =)

links:
http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/pdc/11.2.202.350/install_flash_player_11_linux.x86_64.tar.gz
- for amd64
http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/pdc/11.2.202.350/install_flash_player_11_linux.i386.tar.gz
- for i386

As root:
# update-flashplugin-nonfree --uninstall
# tar xvf install_flash_player_11_linux.$(uname -m).tar.gz libflashplayer.so
# mv libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/
# update-flashplugin-nonfree --status
Flash Player version installed on this system  : 11.2.202.350
Flash Player version available on upstream site: 11.2.202.350
update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for flash-mozilla.so

//not tested// Also it is possible (e.g you don't have root permission) to put 
it 
in ~/.mozilla/plugins/. If you don't have the "plugins" directory there yet, 
just go ahead and make it.


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Re: Cropping a large collection of .PNG screenshots

2014-04-13 Thread Jonathan Dowland


> On 13 Apr 2014, at 15:47, Steve Litt  wrote:
> 
> Quick, relatively safe, and mistake-resistant, and without the immense
> downside risk of various one-liners.

Another advantage, and a short coming of developing shell scripts I'd love to 
see addressed one day: you can iteratively develop, test, undo changes etc 
without necessarily rerunning expensive ops like big greps, sorts, etc or 
destructive operations on data. 

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Re: S-Video on ThinkPad T42 with Debian Jessie - can't get above 800x600

2014-04-13 Thread Joe
On Sun, 13 Apr 2014 20:57:46 +1000
Chris Angelico  wrote:

> On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 1:39 AM, Chris Angelico 
> wrote:
> > On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 12:50 AM, Chris Angelico 
> > wrote:
> >> I've just converted a laptop from Windows XP to Debian Jessie, with
> >> the expectation that I'd be able to do everything at least as well
> >> as before. That's been mostly true, but I'm stuck on a problem
> >> with the S-Video output: whatever I do, the TV shows only 800x600.
> >
> > In the interests of experimentation, I live-booted AntiX on that
> > same hardware. The result is exactly the same; xrandr says the
> > S-video output is in its only mode of 800x600 60Hz, and telling it
> > to go 1024x768 just results in the top left 800x600 being visible.
> 
> Further experimentation has revealed a rather interesting result. It
> seems that Windows was claiming that it was driving the S-video at
> 1024x768, but was actually stretching it down to 800x600. Short of
> reinstalling Windows (which I will not do!), I have no way to prove
> this, but anecdotal evidence is that text is a bit more readable now.
> So it's looking like 800x600 is all we really get anyway. Everything's
> working other than that, so I'm basically going to consider the matter
> closed, unless anyone has fancy ideas to try.
> 

I was waiting for someone more knowledgeable to answer, as I've never
used S-Video with computers, but downconversion does seem likely.

I did wonder what was going on, because as far as I knew S-Video is
defined only for PAL and NTSC, 576i/50 and 480i/60 in modern
terminology. The point of it is that analogue luminance and chrominance
are carried on separate channels, thus avoiding some of the nastiness
inherent in encoding colour into a luminance signal. It really is a TV
signal, and an analogue standard definition one at that.

It would seem that the Linux driver doesn't control the video card
downconversion process properly, but as you say, a downconversion from
1024x768 isn't going to give you better results than from 800x600.

Mr Google says that JVC first used S-Video in 1987, but it would have
been around 1981 that I modified a Hitachi SK-81 camera to provide
separate Y and C outputs to feed a portable U-Matic, modified by
Roderick Snell who was then working at Brighton Polytechnic.

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Re: Skype - no microphone input sound...

2014-04-13 Thread Rodney D. Myers
Yes. Grab pavucontrol, and make sure it's not disabled.

On Sun, 13 Apr 2014 09:26:36 +0900
Man_Without_Clue  wrote:

> Is there anyone who is using Skype with no problem at all on Debian 
> Wheezy 64 bit?
> 
> 
> 
> On 04/12/2014 12:13 AM, Man_Without_Clue wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I don't know what really is going on and where to start this off.
> >
> > For some reason Skype doesn't pick up microphone audio at all.
> >
> > I set pulse audio and with other applications, microphone is
> > working fine...
> >
> > On Debian wheezy 64 bit
> >
> > No clue, absolutely no clue...
> >
> 
> 


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Re: S-Video on ThinkPad T42 with Debian Jessie - can't get above 800x600

2014-04-13 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 1:27 AM, Joe  wrote:
> I did wonder what was going on, because as far as I knew S-Video is
> defined only for PAL and NTSC, 576i/50 and 480i/60 in modern
> terminology. The point of it is that analogue luminance and chrominance
> are carried on separate channels, thus avoiding some of the nastiness
> inherent in encoding colour into a luminance signal. It really is a TV
> signal, and an analogue standard definition one at that.

Interesting. My brother has a desktop video card (an Nvidia one, but I
didn't ask what exact card it is) with S-Video output, and he plugged
it into the same TV via the same cable as the laptop had been using.
According to xrandr, resolutions went up to (I think) 1024x768, but he
saw some oddities, which could have been caused by a stretching down.
I never thought to check the definition of S-Video, as I thought
(naively) that Windows was being honest when it told me it was running
it at 1024x768.

Thanks for the response. The silence was a little worrying - I was
afraid nobody here had ever used S-Video with old hardware, and that
I'd be completely on my own.

ChrisA


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Re: unsuscribe

2014-04-13 Thread Robin
On 13 April 2014 15:44, Julio González  wrote:
> El 25/01/14 14:41, debian-user-digest-requ...@lists.debian.org escribió:
>
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Re: My fellow (Debian) Linux users ...

2014-04-13 Thread Ralf Mardorf


On Sun, 2014-04-13 at 09:33 +0900, Joel Rees wrote:
> In what sense do you mean hacked? 
> Cracked, as in passwords and other sensitive information

Exactly in this way.

> The openssl issues have been baking for how many years?

Too long for Linux community members to be surprised by the news of
today ;). While there are no news on television and radio in Germany not
mentioning apocalyptic openssl issues, I haven't seen one serious post
about it on any open source mailing list.

JFTR

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Re: My fellow (Debian) Linux users ...

2014-04-13 Thread Ralf Mardorf
PS:

On Sun, 2014-04-13 at 18:37 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> I only own an Alice account and 3 Rocketmail accounts

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Alice only, I add the Rocketmail/Yahoo accounts. I dislike to add new
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Re: AMD Graphics and Gnome on testing (Jessie)

2014-04-13 Thread Bruno Schneider
On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 6:07 PM, Gary Dale wrote:
> Welcome to the world of proprietary drivers. Every system update can break
> the driver. You can either use the open source driver or re-install the
> proprietary driver (if it works with the new kernel & xorg). I'd stick with
> the open source driver as long as you are running Debian/testing.

The open source driver is not an option because I need hardware
acceleration. However, it must be some configuration on  my system,
otherwise there would be tons of people complaining.

Reinstalling fglrx 14.3 or 14.2 (which was working before) did not
solve anything.

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Q: LDAP - perl script using Net::LDAP and start_tls gives an error

2014-04-13 Thread Snow Leopard

Hi,

I am trying to write perl script with Net::LDAP module, start_tls 
command and stumbled on a problem.


I would appreciate if somebody could point me to "the source of the 
problem".


If there is better place to get an assistance in resolution of the 
problem please indicate in your reply.


Thank you in advance,

Andrew


OS wheezy
slapd  2.4.31-1+nmu2
gnutls-bin 3.0.22-3+really2.12.20-8+deb7u1
cacert /etc/ssl/certs/cacert.pem -rw-r--r-- 1 openldap openldap
   /etc/ssl/certs/04a8f1dd.0 -> cacert.pem   lrwxrwxrwx 1 
root root

server-key /etc/ssl/private/server-key.pem-rw--- 1 openldap openldap
server-cert/etc/ssl/certs/server-cert.pem -rw-r--r-- 1 openldap openldap

--- Begin of ldap_sec.pl --
#!/usr/bin/perl

use Net::LDAP;
#use Net::LDAP::Util qw(ldap_error_text);;
use Data::Dumper;

my $server = 'install.myclub.com';  #'localhost';
my $base   = 'dc=myclub,dc=com';
my $scope  = 'sub';
my $filter = 'objectClass=*';

my $ldap = Net::LDAP->new( $server ) or die "$@";

my $mesg = $ldap->bind( version => 3 ) || die "Could not bind...";

$mesg = $ldap->start_tls(
verify => 'none',   # none, optional, require
clientcert => 'certs/client-cert.pem',
clientkey  => 'certs/client-key.pem',
keydecrypt => sub { 'secret'; },
capath => '/etc/ssl/certs/'
);

$mesg->{resultCode} && die $mesg->{errorMessage};
#print Dumper($mesg); exit 0;

$mesg = $ldap->search(
base   => $base,
#scope  => $sub,
filter => $filter
);


#print Dumper($mesg);

if ($mesg->{resultCode}) {
die "An error occured binding to the LDAP server: "
  . $mesg->{errorMessage} . "\n";
}

foreach my $entry ( $mesg->entries ) {
$entry->dump;
}

$mesg = $ldap->unbind;
--- End of ldap_sec.pl -


If the script run as it embedded above then it produces correct output


root@install:~/prog# ./ldap_sec.pl

dn:dc=myclub,dc=com

objectClass: top
 dcObject
 organization
  o: myclub.com
 dc: myclub

dn:cn=admin,dc=myclub,dc=com

objectClass: simpleSecurityObject
 organizationalRole
 cn: admin
description: LDAP administrator
root@install:~/prog#


If I made a change in "start_tls" command for option "verify => none" to 
one of 'optional' or 'required' then I get next error message



root@install:~/prog# ./ldap_sec.pl
SSL connect attempt failed with unknown error error:14090086:SSL 
routines:SSL3_GET_SERVER_CERTIFICATE:certificate verify failed at 
./ldap_sec.pl line 25,  line 751.

root@install:~/prog#


Otherwise LDAP server allows to bind and retrieve information from 
command line



root@install:~/prog# ldapsearch -ZZ -H ldap:/// -W  -D 
'cn=admin,dc=myclub,dc=com'

Enter LDAP Password:
# extended LDIF
#
# LDAPv3
# base  (default) with scope subtree
# filter: (objectclass=*)
# requesting: ALL
#

# myclub.com
dn: dc=myclub,dc=com
objectClass: top
objectClass: dcObject
objectClass: organization
o: myclub.com
dc: myclub

# admin, myclub.com
dn: cn=admin,dc=myclub,dc=com
objectClass: simpleSecurityObject
objectClass: organizationalRole
cn: admin
description: LDAP administrator
userPassword:: {encrypted_password}### password removed

# search result
search: 3
result: 0 Success

# numResponses: 3
# numEntries: 2
root@install:~/prog#


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Re: the importance of defaults ( was: Debian default desktop environment )

2014-04-13 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20140413_1651+1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 12:17:47PM +0200, alberto fuentes wrote:
> > tl;dr 
> 
> http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/tldr
> 
> > My point is that gnome3 is even more disruptive than unity. Do we want
> > to attract users or scare them away?
> 
> Neither. I suggest that the lack of one option doesn't automatically
> imply the other.
> 
> OTOH, the features which attract some users could be the very features
> which scare others away. 
> 
> Consider NetBSD vs PC-BSD
> https://www.netbsd.org/./about/
> http://www.pcbsd.org/en/about/
> 
> I've always considered Debian to be closer to the NetBSD goals and
> objectives and the derivatives closer to the PC-BSD goals and
> objectives.
> 
> I believe this distinction is important and is currently the source of
> contention within the Debian project.
> 
> Thoughts?
> 

Defaults are important, but so are people.  

My discovery of Debian came in the days of 'Y2K'. I think my first
install of Debian was Potato. Coming from distributions of RedHat
purchased in a red box at a retail store, it was a revelation. What
impressed me about Debian then was that the people giving answers on
debian-user seemed to be real, knowledgeable 'SysAdmins', but without
the anger, people who were clearly able to help, and clearly hoping
that the questioner would succeeded, not just go away quickly. I had
already been exposed to big, 'main frame' computers in my work in
Physics research, and had recently retired. I had some thought of
learning the internals of how computers worked as a retirement
hobby. Compared to Red Hat, back then, there was much less frustration
in getting useful help, and, for me more importantly, the help came
with some education. I remember reading the File Hierarchy Standard
(FHS). It must have been suggested to me in the answer to one of my
questions. Otherwise, I would never have found it.

I began to develop an idea of the organization that was developing
inside the Debian organization. To me it seemed that the people had a
shared view of how Debian might take over the world, and they realized
that they needed more people to join their ranks. Yes, defaults are
important, but, in this context, namely a reply to a request for
opinion about the value of defaults, I think 'default' is really
'context'.  That is to say the default for a decision or an action is
determined by the context.

Now the context is very different from what it was in the time of
Potato.  But for Debian, there is still the organizational imperative
of recruiting and training the next generation. There is so much more
work to be done. The organization has to be so much larger. The people
'at the top' have to be in touch with what is needed in so many new
issues that never troubled Debian way back when... 

When I read OP's post, I took it to be a comment on the contending
'desk tops', and that people were worrying that somebody else's desk
top would win top billing (i.e. default) position. If desk-tops are
in an alphabetically ordered list, my preference will surely lose,
but so be it. The tradition of Debian is that so long as a qualified
maintainer can be found for a package, that package will not be 
dropped, just because it not appropriate for some view of the modern
computer market context. But maybe I shouldn't be so complacient. 

Maybe I should be afraid, very afraid.
Oh well,
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Re: apt-get doesn't upgrade, but synaptic does

2014-04-13 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Sun, 13 Apr 2014, Brad Rogers wrote:

> On Sat, 12 Apr 2014 20:59:02 -0700
> Patrick Bartek  wrote:
> 
> >I rechecked, and the metapackage is removed, but not any of
> >libreoffice modules.  Ultimately, I just purged each of the modules
> >by name, then autoremove the orphaned dependencies.
> >
> >There should be an easier way.
> 
> Maybe, IDK.

No way I've found, so far.  Things are set up to make only INSTALLATION
easy, not the other way around.

>  In any case, if the behaviour of meta-packages were to be
> changed, I'm sure there would be some quite heated discussion about
> the matter.

Maybe, no change is needed since a meta-package is just a list of
files to install. Maybe all that is needed is a more intelligent package
manager.

B


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Re: apt-get doesn't upgrade, but synaptic does

2014-04-13 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2014-04-13 05:59 +0200, Patrick Bartek wrote:

> On Sat, 12 Apr 2014, Brad Rogers wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 18:28:04 -0700
>> Patrick Bartek  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Patrick,
>> 
>> >uninstall or purge libreoffice from the system. 'apt-get purge
>> >libreoffice' won't do it.  I've done tests, and as far as I can tell
>> >little or nothing is removed. 
>> 
>> Not even the meta-package 'libreoffice'?
>
> I rechecked, and the metapackage is removed, but not any of libreoffice
> modules.

In the past, removing a metapackage caused its dependencies to be
autoremoved as well, and people complained about that apt wanted to
remove half their system as soon as they decided to uninstall a
dependency of the gnome metapackage.  Therefore, apt's behavior wrt
metapackages was changed to _not_ mark their dependencies as
automatically installed. 

> Ultimately, I just purged each of the modules by name, then
> autoremove the orphaned dependencies.
>
> There should be an easier way.

You could use aptitude to mark the dependencies as auto-installed
(untested):

# aptitude markauto "~Dlibreoffice"

Then you can autoremove them as you wish.

Cheers,
   Sven


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Re: AMD Graphics on Debian 7.4

2014-04-13 Thread ray
> Would it be worth just trying installing multiarch?  With one of the 
> apt family.  (I use aptitude).  I agree that it is not obviously 

# apt-get install multiarch
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree   
Reading state information... Done
E: Unable to locate package multiarch

https://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/Implementation says:
  Using multiarch

  "To enable the installation of multiarch binaries, apt and dpkg need   
configuration changes. For example, if you have an amd64 system that you want 
to install i386 libraries onto, do the following:

  multiarch support is present from dpkg 1.16.2 (or 1.16.0 in Ubuntu) and apt 
0.8.13.

  run dpkg --add-architecture i386

  run apt-get update to refresh the package cache with the newly added 
architecture" 

This seems to only provide for dpkg multiarch awareness and not the 
implementation.  From the above referenced webpage, it looks like the packages 
(Catalyst) must be built to use this.

Just for record, https://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/Bootstrapping addresses how 
to assemble multiarch awareness but all the content was produced 3 years ago 
and appears to no longer be needed due to Debain maturation.
https://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary#wheezy
I updated to:

deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ wheezy main contrib non-free

Ran:aptitude update

with no errors,
and:
aptitude -r install linux-headers-$(uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,') 
fglrx-driver

which ran without error except for the initial emission:
No candidate version found for fglrx-driver
No candidate version found for fglrx-driver
So I tried:
# apt-get install fglrx-modules-dkms
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree  
Reading state information... Done
E: Unable to locate package fglrx-modules-dkms


Similarly,
# apt-get install fglrx-driver
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree   
Reading state information... Done
Package fglrx-driver is not available, but is referred to by another package.
This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
is only available from another source

E: Package 'fglrx-driver' has no installation candidate

I did see a reference to i386 files on http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Debian:
# sudo apt-get remove --purge xserver-xorg-video-radeon
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree   
Reading state information... Done
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
  hyphen-en-us libfs6 x11-apps x11-session-utils x11-xfs-utils xinit xorg
Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  task-desktop* task-gnome-desktop* xserver-xorg-video-all*
  xserver-xorg-video-ati* xserver-xorg-video-radeon*
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 5 to remove and 9 not upgraded.
After this operation, 1,998 kB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y
(Reading database ... 137565 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing task-gnome-desktop ...
Removing task-desktop ...
Removing xserver-xorg-video-all ...
Removing xserver-xorg-video-ati ...
Removing xserver-xorg-video-radeon ...
Purging configuration files for xserver-xorg-video-radeon ...
Processing triggers for man-db ...

And followed this up with:
sudo apt-get install fglrx-driver fglrx-control fglrx-glx fglrx-atieventsd 
fglrx-modules-dkms

which produced:
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree   
Reading state information... Done
Package fglrx-glx is not available, but is referred to by another package.
This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
is only available from another source

Package fglrx-driver is not available, but is referred to by another package.
This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
is only available from another source

E: Package 'fglrx-driver' has no installation candidate
E: Unable to locate package fglrx-control
E: Package 'fglrx-glx' has no installation candidate
E: Unable to locate package fglrx-atieventsd
E: Unable to locate package fglrx-modules-dkms

>From the same site, to get ia32 libraries:
sudo apt-get install fglrx-glx-ia32
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree   
Reading state information... Done
Package fglrx-glx-ia32 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
is only available from another source

E: Package 'fglrx-glx-ia32' has no installation candidate

It looks like there is a challenge with doing something with fglrx.

Am I missing something here?

I found an alternative at:  
https://wiki.debian.org/Installing_ATI_fglrx_legacy_with_latest_kernel

This is a year old but it addressing building the driver package.  Is there any 
problem with this approach?

Thanks for all the input,
Ray







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Re: AMD Graphics on Debian 7.4

2014-04-13 Thread Ric Moore

On 04/13/2014 02:27 PM, ray wrote:
Am I missing something here? I found an alternative at: 
https://wiki.debian.org/Installing_ATI_fglrx_legacy_with_latest_kernel 
This is a year old but it addressing building the driver package. Is 
there any problem with this approach? Thanks for all the input, Ray Ray 
Do you have Synaptic installed?? Use that to hunt down and install your 
packages. If the wheezy version fails you then try the run package ...as 
a last resort. Or, upgrade to jessie to legally get the latest and 
greatest. That is what I did to get the newer versions of my nVidia 
drivers and VLC. As a plus, you stay within the deb package scheme of 
things. Just make darn sure you do the upgrade in text terminal mode, 
with X stopped totally. Ric


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Re: Skype - no microphone input sound...

2014-04-13 Thread Ric Moore

On 04/12/2014 08:26 PM, Man_Without_Clue wrote:
Is there anyone who is using Skype with no problem at all on Debian 
Wheezy 64 bit?




On 04/12/2014 12:13 AM, Man_Without_Clue wrote:

Hi all,

I don't know what really is going on and where to start this off.

For some reason Skype doesn't pick up microphone audio at all.

I set pulse audio and with other applications, microphone is working 
fine...


On Debian wheezy 64 bit

No clue, absolutely no clue...

As a prophylactic measure, from a command line type: padsp skype
which will firmly/forcefully put skype to pulse input/output. See what 
happens. Ric




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Re: Q: LDAP - perl script using Net::LDAP and start_tls gives an error

2014-04-13 Thread Atle Solbakken


If I made a change in "start_tls" command for option "verify => none" 
to one of 'optional' or 'required' then I get next error message



root@install:~/prog# ./ldap_sec.pl
SSL connect attempt failed with unknown error error:14090086:SSL 
routines:SSL3_GET_SERVER_CERTIFICATE:certificate verify failed at 
./ldap_sec.pl line 25,  line 751.

root@install:~/prog#




It seems to me that the "verify"-option tells Net::LDAP whether it 
should verify that the certificate the server you are connecting to is 
using has been signed by a known certificate authority (listed in 
/etc/ssl/certs).


start_tls will fail if the server does not provide any certificate, or 
if the certificate is not signed by a CA (ref 
http://search.cpan.org/~marschap/perl-ldap/lib/Net/LDAP.pod ).


Atle.


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Q: Squeeze - debmirror 1:2.4.5 / Bug #673444 : not fetch Translation files

2014-04-13 Thread Snow Leopard

Hi,

due limited traffic from my ISP (200GB/month) I've decided to make own 
mirror for Debian "wheeze".


A quick search brought my attention to "debmirror" utility. After a 
couple days of download I had local mirror for "wheeze" and 
"wheeze-updates".


Shortly after the mirror was ready I configured Apache to serve files, 
DHCP server and "preceed.cfg" to make automatic installation over 
network utilizing PXE boot.


After a little struggle to make everything right to be able install OS 
and packages I found that installation process "stops to inform me that 
i18n translation files are missing" in wheeze-updates. My inspection of 
wheeze-updates/main directory confirmed that directory i18n is missing.


My further investigation brought my attentions to bug #673444 
(Maintainer: Joey Hess ) in regard missing translation 
files.


https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=673444

So, it looks like Squeezy still has debmirror version which is affected 
by this bug.


dpkg -l | grep debmirror
ii  debmirror 1:2.4.5

For the moment I've added a block of code to my script to sync mirror 
which resolves the issue



-- Begin my_mirror.sh 
#!/bin/bash

.
.

#
# Translation files fix
#
# Description:
#   Older version of debmirror does not copy a
#   directory if file "Index" is missing. In this
#   particular case client will not find directory
#   "Translation-en" as "dists/wheeze-updates/main/i18n"
#   directory misses "Index" file.
#
# Bugs: #673444
#
# Note:
#   Newer version of debmirror relies on "Packages.gz"
#   file instead of "Index" and do not have this problem.
#

URL=ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/wheezy-updates/main/i18n/

DIR=here
DIR_TMP=here/debian/dists/wheezy-updates/main/i18n
MIRROR=/home/debian/mirror/dists/wheezy-updates/main/

[ -d ${DIR} ] && rm -f ${DIR}

wget -r -nH -P here ${URL}

cp -r ${DIR_TMP} ${MIRROR}

rm -r here

-- End my_mirror.sh --


What is the best way to address this issue? Contact the maintainer? Use 
backports?


Sincerely,

Andrew


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Re: Q: LDAP - perl script using Net::LDAP and start_tls gives an error

2014-04-13 Thread Snow Leopard

Hi Atle,

in my case I am certificate agency (self-signed certificate) and I issue 
"private key" and "certificate" (cacert.pem) as for root "CA" as for 
LDAP server (server-key.pem and server-cert.pem) and LDAP perl script 
client (client-key.pem and client-cert.pem).


The script and client run on the same computer (for the moment) and LDAP 
server private key (private/server-key.pem) and certificate 
(certs/server-cert.pem) located in /etc/ssl/ directory. CA root 
certificate (certs/cacert.pem) is located in /etc/ssl/certs directory -- 
and as recommended I created certificate named using hash value


URL: https://metacpan.org/pod/Net::LDAP#start_tls

|ln -s cacert.pem `openssl x509 -hash -noout < cacert.pem`.0

Client (perl script) has reference to client's key/cert in the script 
which is stored in sub-directory 'certs' where located the script 
(certs/client-key.pem and certs/client-cert.pem).


At the moment I am not fully grasp why verification of server 
certificate fails.


I am welcome any ideas how to fix it.

NOTE: It is my first attempt to program with Net::LDAP and start_tls -- 
I am in process of learning how it works and how to program to use LDAP 
over TLS in perl.


Thanks for any input,

Andrew
|

On 4/13/2014 12:43 PM, Atle Solbakken wrote:


If I made a change in "start_tls" command for option "verify => none" 
to one of 'optional' or 'required' then I get next error message



root@install:~/prog# ./ldap_sec.pl
SSL connect attempt failed with unknown error error:14090086:SSL 
routines:SSL3_GET_SERVER_CERTIFICATE:certificate verify failed at 
./ldap_sec.pl line 25,  line 751.

root@install:~/prog#




It seems to me that the "verify"-option tells Net::LDAP whether it 
should verify that the certificate the server you are connecting to is 
using has been signed by a known certificate authority (listed in 
/etc/ssl/certs).


start_tls will fail if the server does not provide any certificate, or 
if the certificate is not signed by a CA (ref 
http://search.cpan.org/~marschap/perl-ldap/lib/Net/LDAP.pod ).


Atle.






Re: Q: LDAP - perl script using Net::LDAP and start_tls gives an error

2014-04-13 Thread Ric Moore

On 04/13/2014 04:45 PM, Snow Leopard wrote:

Hi Atle,

in my case I am certificate agency (self-signed certificate) and I 
issue "private key" and "certificate" (cacert.pem) as for root "CA" as 
for LDAP server (server-key.pem and server-cert.pem) and LDAP perl 
script client (client-key.pem and client-cert.pem).


The script and client run on the same computer (for the moment) and 
LDAP server private key (private/server-key.pem) and certificate 
(certs/server-cert.pem) located in /etc/ssl/ directory. CA root 
certificate (certs/cacert.pem) is located in /etc/ssl/certs directory 
-- and as recommended I created certificate named using hash value


URL: https://metacpan.org/pod/Net::LDAP#start_tls

|ln -s cacert.pem `openssl x509 -hash -noout < cacert.pem`.0

Client (perl script) has reference to client's key/cert in the script 
which is stored in sub-directory 'certs' where located the script 
(certs/client-key.pem and certs/client-cert.pem).


At the moment I am not fully grasp why verification of server 
certificate fails.


I am welcome any ideas how to fix it.

NOTE: It is my first attempt to program with Net::LDAP and start_tls 
-- I am in process of learning how it works and how to program to use 
LDAP over TLS in perl.


Thanks for any input,

Andrew
|

On 4/13/2014 12:43 PM, Atle Solbakken wrote:


If I made a change in "start_tls" command for option "verify => 
none" to one of 'optional' or 'required' then I get next error message



root@install:~/prog# ./ldap_sec.pl
SSL connect attempt failed with unknown error error:14090086:SSL 
routines:SSL3_GET_SERVER_CERTIFICATE:certificate verify failed at 
./ldap_sec.pl line 25,  line 751.

root@install:~/prog#




It seems to me that the "verify"-option tells Net::LDAP whether it 
should verify that the certificate the server you are connecting to 
is using has been signed by a known certificate authority (listed in 
/etc/ssl/certs).


start_tls will fail if the server does not provide any certificate, 
or if the certificate is not signed by a CA (ref 
http://search.cpan.org/~marschap/perl-ldap/lib/Net/LDAP.pod ).



I think it would be better if there was an easier way. Especailly for 
older non-elastic brains. :) Ric




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Re: Q: Squeeze - debmirror 1:2.4.5 / Bug #673444 : not fetch Translation files

2014-04-13 Thread Brian
On Sun 13 Apr 2014 at 13:27:15 -0700, Snow Leopard wrote:

> So, it looks like Squeezy still has debmirror version which is
> affected by this bug.
> 
> dpkg -l | grep debmirror
> ii  debmirror 1:2.4.5
> 
> For the moment I've added a block of code to my script to sync
> mirror which resolves the issue

1:2.14 is in squeeze backports:

  https://packages.debian.org/squeeze/debmirror

It is also possible a downloaded unstable version may install on squeeze
with 'dpkg -i package' and 'apt-get -f install'.


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Re: Q: Squeeze - debmirror 1:2.4.5 / Bug #673444 : not fetch Translation files

2014-04-13 Thread Snow Leopard

Brain,

well it seems that I've missed something somewhere, next command shows 
that there is verify error


Verify return code: 21 (unable to verify the first certificate)

I wonder what is the "medicine" to fix it?

Andrew


root@install:~/prog# openssl s_client -showcerts -connect localhost:636
CONNECTED(0003)
depth=0 C = CA, O = Andromeda Inc., OU = IT Department, L = Burnaby, ST 
= BC, CN = install.myclub.com, UID = 8482, emailAddress = ad...@myclub.com

verify error:num=20:unable to get local issuer certificate
verify return:1
depth=0 C = CA, O = Andromeda Inc., OU = IT Department, L = Burnaby, ST 
= BC, CN = install.myclub.com, UID = 8482, emailAddress = ad...@myclub.com

verify error:num=27:certificate not trusted
verify return:1
depth=0 C = CA, O = Andromeda Inc., OU = IT Department, L = Burnaby, ST 
= BC, CN = install.myclub.com, UID = 8482, emailAddress = ad...@myclub.com

verify error:num=21:unable to verify the first certificate
verify return:1
---
Certificate chain
 0 s:/C=CA/O=Andromeda Inc./OU=IT 
Department/L=Burnaby/ST=BC/CN=install.myclub.com/UID=8482/emailAddress=ad...@myclub.com
   i:/C=CA/O=Andromeda Inc./OU=IT Department/ST=BC/CN=Andrey 
Vlassov/UID=wizard

-BEGIN CERTIFICATE-
..
-END CERTIFICATE-
 1 s:/C=CA/O=Andromeda Inc./OU=IT Department/ST=BC/CN=Andrey 
Vlassov/UID=wizard
   i:/C=CA/O=Andromeda Inc./OU=IT Department/ST=BC/CN=Andrey 
Vlassov/UID=wizard

-BEGIN CERTIFICATE-
-END CERTIFICATE-
---
Server certificate
subject=/C=CA/O=Andromeda Inc./OU=IT 
Department/L=Burnaby/ST=BC/CN=install.myclub.com/UID=8482/emailAddress=ad...@myclub.com
issuer=/C=CA/O=Andromeda Inc./OU=IT Department/ST=BC/CN=Andrey 
Vlassov/UID=wizard

---
No client certificate CA names sent
---
SSL handshake has read 2602 bytes and written 726 bytes
---
New, TLSv1/SSLv3, Cipher is AES256-SHA256
Server public key is 2432 bit
Secure Renegotiation IS supported
Compression: NONE
Expansion: NONE
SSL-Session:
Protocol  : TLSv1.2
Cipher: AES256-SHA256
Session-ID: 
020FE950E0F7F0A2925CFB34D57B0D6CF7557B3145476C6309A130478BBE0974

Session-ID-ctx:
Master-Key: 
B68A064FBA1795AEB147AEBE0CCFD8E7C6EEAB8D583819201CACED9CA71DC58B3CD4C258CE0884F9AE217F88B18D10C1

Key-Arg   : None
PSK identity: None
PSK identity hint: None
SRP username: None
Start Time: 1397422787
Timeout   : 300 (sec)
Verify return code: 21 (unable to verify the first certificate)
---



On 4/13/2014 2:03 PM, Brian wrote:

On Sun 13 Apr 2014 at 13:27:15 -0700, Snow Leopard wrote:


So, it looks like Squeezy still has debmirror version which is
affected by this bug.

dpkg -l | grep debmirror
ii  debmirror 1:2.4.5

For the moment I've added a block of code to my script to sync
mirror which resolves the issue

1:2.14 is in squeeze backports:

   https://packages.debian.org/squeeze/debmirror

It is also possible a downloaded unstable version may install on squeeze
with 'dpkg -i package' and 'apt-get -f install'.





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Re: Q: Squeeze - debmirror 1:2.4.5 / Bug #673444 : not fetch Translation files

2014-04-13 Thread Brian
On Sun 13 Apr 2014 at 14:13:54 -0700, Snow Leopard wrote:

> well it seems that I've missed something somewhere, next command
> shows that there is verify error

I was suggesting something like

  wget 
http://http.debian.net/debian-backports/pool/main/d/debmirror/debmirror_2.14~bpo60+1_all.deb

followed by

  dpkg -i debmirror_2.14~bpo60+1_all.deb

to see whether this fixed your problem.


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Re: My fellow (Debian) Linux users ...

2014-04-13 Thread Richard Hector
On 13/04/14 23:43, Curt wrote:
> On 2014-04-13, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI  wrote:
>> On 20h20 12 de Abril de 2014, Steve Litt wrote:
>>> I'm changing every password: That's about 100 of them.
>>
>> That's a good thing to do, but only after the server has patched
>> openssl and changed its certificate. Otherwise someone could have
>> captured the private key and other information that could be used to
>> eavesdrop your newly changed password.
> 
> This online tester:
> 
> http://possible.lv/tools/hb/
> 
> provides this sort of output in the critical case:

I have 2 significant issues with all these online testers.

Firstly, they generally actively exploit the bug, which is probably
illegal in most jurisdictions - at least if you're using it on a server
that isn't yours.

Secondly - do you know who runs it? I don't. If I wanted to harvest a
bunch of potentially vulnerable sites, setting up a test site is how I'd
do it ...

Richard



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Re: apt-get doesn't upgrade, but synaptic does

2014-04-13 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Sun, 13 Apr 2014, Sven Joachim wrote:

> On 2014-04-13 05:59 +0200, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> 
> > On Sat, 12 Apr 2014, Brad Rogers wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 18:28:04 -0700
> >> Patrick Bartek  wrote:
> >> 
> [snip]
> >> 
> >> Not even the meta-package 'libreoffice'?
> >
> > I rechecked, and the metapackage is removed, but not any of
> > libreoffice modules.
> 
> In the past, removing a metapackage caused its dependencies to be
> autoremoved as well, and people complained about that apt wanted to
> remove half their system as soon as they decided to uninstall a
> dependency of the gnome metapackage.  Therefore, apt's behavior wrt
> metapackages was changed to _not_ mark their dependencies as
> automatically installed. 

Remember that quirk well.  What a nightmare it caused if you were trying
to "slim" down a system of unneeded or unwanted files when everything
is a dependent of everything else.

> > Ultimately, I just purged each of the modules by name, then
> > autoremove the orphaned dependencies.
> >
> > There should be an easier way.
> 
> You could use aptitude to mark the dependencies as auto-installed
> (untested):
> 
> # aptitude markauto "~Dlibreoffice"
> 
> Then you can autoremove them as you wish.

Not all that knowledgeable of aptitude.  Wary of using an untested
procedure of a utility I'm unfamiliar with.  That's surely asking for
trouble. However, I did come up with a possible method to more easily
uninstall meta-package installed apps.

First, find the one module of the app that is the dependancy for all the
others, but is itself not dependent on them.  Does that make sense?
With libreoffice, it's libreoffice-common.  Purge just that one module,
i.e. apt-get purge libreoffice-common, and that should automatically get
most all the others. Then autoremove to get any orphaned dependencies.
Then do a search for any lingering modules, and purge them if found.

With libreoffice, I did an apt-get purge libreoffice* which found
one: libreoffice-filters-something-or-other.  I then manually deleted
the libreoffice directory in the user's .config directory.  All gone.

I'm hoping this technique will work with other such apps until
something easier is invented.

Thanks for the info and the suggestion.

B


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Re: AMD Graphics on Debian 7.4

2014-04-13 Thread ray
> Do you have Synaptic installed?? Use that to hunt down and install your 
> packages. If the wheezy version fails you then try the run package ...as 
> a last resort. Or, upgrade to jessie to legally get the latest and 
> greatest. That is what I did to get the newer versions of my nVidia 
> drivers and VLC. As a plus, you stay within the deb package scheme of 
> things. Just make darn sure you do the upgrade in text terminal mode, 
> with X stopped totally. 

I did not find the fglrx package in Synaptic.  I did find some multiarch 
packages which I installed.  But the initial error of not finding the 
architecture was persistent.

Ray


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best way to backup USB stick (2)

2014-04-13 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Hi,

So I got a script that backs up the USB stick to a file and restores a 
(larger) USB stick from that file all using dd.  It is here:


http://paste.debian.net/93598

the relevant parts are the backup:

dd conv=notrunc,noerror bs=4096 if=$usbDrive | gzip > $backupFilename

and the restore:

gzip -dc $backupFilename | dd of=$usbDrive

Makes perfect copy AFAICT, but it does not boot and the original USB 
stick does. Completes w/o errors.


Can any dd expert tell me what I am doing wrong?

Hugo


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Heartbleed (was ... Re: My fellow (Debian) Linux users ...)

2014-04-13 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 06:37:19PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> 
> 
> On Sun, 2014-04-13 at 09:33 +0900, Joel Rees wrote:
> > In what sense do you mean hacked? 
> > Cracked, as in passwords and other sensitive information
> 
> > The openssl issues have been baking for how many years?

The bug was introduced two years ago.

> While there are no news on television and radio in Germany ...

Weird. I haven't heard *anything* from the TV or radio either,
considering it is a catastrophe worse than the Y2K bug.  

It seems very likely that people are using compromised apps on their
smartphone and you'd think it would be advisable to warn people ASAP!

Not even an email from the bank! 

Then there is also the very serious issue of embedded devices using
openssl. Tablets, smartphones, routers, ... etc. etc. 

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Re: missing devel pkgs for emacs build

2014-04-13 Thread Harry Putnam
Tom Furie  writes:

> On Mon, Apr 07, 2014 at 09:19:25PM +0100, Tom Furie wrote:
>
>> Ah, I tested with wheezy. I'll load up a jessie vm and test again. In
>> theory it shouldn't make any difference, but that's the difference
>> between theory and practice :)
>
> With a fresh install of Jessie plus xorg-dev, libgif-dev, libtiff-dev
> and ncurses-dev (along with anything else they pull in) I can't get the
> build to fail. The build also completes if I use gtk2 or 3.
>
> If you're still having problems I'd suggest a back to basics approach.
> Can you get emacs to build with 'configure --without-all --without-x'?

I made no further changes than those posted as regards my debian
install, but did do another 'bzr pull' in my sources top level, about
2 hrs ago (Sunday night Apr 13 in USA)

That change allowed my latest effort using the same ./configure line
as posted, followed my 'make', 'make install'.  to conclude successfully.

I didn't investigate all the changes involved in that short time
period but whatever it is... it was enough to make it all work again.

Thank you for your patience and forbearance.


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Re: best way to backup USB stick (2)

2014-04-13 Thread PaulNM
On 04/13/2014 10:16 PM, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> So I got a script that backs up the USB stick to a file and restores a
> (larger) USB stick from that file all using dd.  It is here:
> 
> http://paste.debian.net/93598
> 

That's small enough that you should have included it in the email, in my
opinion.

> the relevant parts are the backup:
> 
> dd conv=notrunc,noerror bs=4096 if=$usbDrive | gzip > $backupFilename
> 
> and the restore:
> 
> gzip -dc $backupFilename | dd of=$usbDrive
> 
> Makes perfect copy AFAICT, but it does not boot and the original USB
> stick does. Completes w/o errors.
> 
> Can any dd expert tell me what I am doing wrong?

Actually, the really relevant part is the variable definitions.

Specifically: usbDrive=/dev/sde1

You're not backing up and restoring usb drives, you're backing up and
restoring a partition on usb drives.  The partition table and bootloader
aren't handled by your script.  No bootloader=no booting. :)

I'd suggest getting the whole device (/dev/sde) unless you're planning
to restore to a drive with other partitions you want to preserve.

> 
> Hugo
> 
> 

Another suggestion: Look into ddrescue (package name is gddrescue).
It's more flexible when dealing with drives that have problems.

- PaulNM


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debian install wireless fails on laptop with Ralink RT3290 wireless, what to do?

2014-04-13 Thread Britton Kerin
The installer correctly detects a Ralink RT3290 and seems to think its
going to be
able to work with it, but then it always fails (I think at the DHCP
stage) to actually
manage to connect to the network.

Has anyone else encountered this issue?  Workarounds?

As usually everyone assumes it would work on Ubuntu and as usual I'd rather not
go there.

What I'm hoping to do is install a gnome system from CD image, then follow these
instructions:

  https://wiki.debian.org/rt3290

Is this probably workable?  Is it the best way?  If there was some way to get
wireless working at the point in the installation where the installer
tries to set
it up that seem like it would be best, but maybe it isn't required then if you
have one of the big (non-netinst) CDs?

Thanks,
Britton


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Re: debian install wireless fails on laptop with Ralink RT3290 wireless, what to do?

2014-04-13 Thread Marko Randjelovic
On Sun, 13 Apr 2014 21:26:09 -0700
Britton Kerin  wrote:

> The installer correctly detects a Ralink RT3290 and seems to think its
> going to be
> able to work with it, but then it always fails (I think at the DHCP
> stage) to actually
> manage to connect to the network.
> 
> Has anyone else encountered this issue?  Workarounds?
> 
> As usually everyone assumes it would work on Ubuntu and as usual I'd rather 
> not
> go there.
> 
> What I'm hoping to do is install a gnome system from CD image, then follow 
> these
> instructions:
> 
>   https://wiki.debian.org/rt3290
> 
> Is this probably workable?  Is it the best way?  If there was some way to get
> wireless working at the point in the installation where the installer
> tries to set
> it up that seem like it would be best, but maybe it isn't required 
> firmware-ralinkthen if you
> have one of the big (non-netinst) CDs?

Apparently, firmware-ralink is non-free and is required, so looks like
you can't get your card working from installation. You must download
the package from another machine or temporarily use another network
card.

> 
> Thanks,
> Britton
> 
> 

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Re: AMD Graphics on Debian 7.4

2014-04-13 Thread Marko Randjelovic
On Sun, 13 Apr 2014 11:27:31 -0700 (PDT)
ray  wrote:

> Am I missing something here?

Of course you are, in one of previous posts you got a solution but looks
like you missed it :)

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Re: Heartbleed (was ... Re: My fellow (Debian) Linux users ...)

2014-04-13 Thread shawn wilson
On Apr 13, 2014 11:03 PM, "Chris Bannister" 
wrote:
>

> Then there is also the very serious issue of embedded devices using
> openssl. Tablets, smartphones, routers, ... etc. etc.
>

You're correct about network hardware (though the only one I'm aware of so
far is F5 with the latest firmware). If anyone knows of other network
hardware that uses openssl (any version) I'd like to know.

However, how exactly would this bug be used to compromise a client (tablet
or smartphone) whose app uses openssl libs?

(I think you spoke in err and my initial intent was to dispel FUD. However
if there's a way, I'm really curious)


Re: Heartbleed (was ... Re: My fellow (Debian) Linux users ...)

2014-04-13 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 4/13/2014 10:03 PM, Chris Bannister wrote:
...
> considering it is a catastrophe worse than the Y2K bug.  

This is several orders of magnitude less severe than Y2K.

> It seems very likely that people are using compromised apps on their
> smartphone and you'd think it would be advisable to warn people ASAP!

OpenSSL is a library, not an 'app'.

> Not even an email from the bank! 

Many/most financial institutions disdain open source software and would
much rather pay for proprietary commercial solutions so there is someone
to sue and recover damages when things go tits up.

Most financial institutions tend to run operations on IBM or clone
mainframes.  Thus they'll likely be using IBM's mainframe
implementations of SSL/TLS, or a commercial front end termination
device, neither of which are likely affected by this CVE which is for a
few specific version of OpenSSL only.

> Then there is also the very serious issue of embedded devices using
> openssl. Tablets, smartphones, routers, ... etc. etc. 

This problem only exists *if* these devices connect to a compromised or
rogue host via SSL/TLS *and* the user hasn't reset and or deleted
locally cached usernames and passwords.

So, no, definitely not on the impact scale of Y2K.  That affected
*everyone* whereas this does not.  Anyone using an MS Windows PC, which
is the majority of the planet, whose financial institutions do not use
OpenSSL, are entirely safe from this bug.

The *nix community is going ape shit over this not because of bank
accounts potentially getting drained, but because so many
command/control systems of the Internet backbone are vulnerable to
leaking encryption keys, potentially allowing any cracker access to them.

Cheers,

Stan


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