Re: multiarch - please do not force users to change a running system!
On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 01:15:18 +0200
Andrei POPESCU wrote:
Hello Andrei,
>Could you please tell me what makes it a multiarch package?
The skype web site download page labels it as multiarch, that's all I
know.
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>As far as I can tell this is a plain i386 packages. Besides (haven't
>read the multiarch specification), I don't think applications need any
>conversion. One just needs to activate the proper architecture(s) and
Previous .amd64 versions depended on ia32 libs packages, so that seems
to be the main (only?) difference.
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Re: Several questions regarding compiled web server (/usr/local)
Hello Bob Thank you for your very good explanation! I could not find anything nearly as good as this in the internet! Another question came up while reading your message: Wouldn't it then be better to give ownership of '/usr/local/var/lib/cherokee' to 'www-data:staff', instead of 'root:www-data'? That way 'staff' would still have access to that folder, while 'www-data' would be possible to read and write in that directory? Another solution would be adding user 'www-data' to group 'staff', but I presume that Cherokee (or any other software) would be access to files the service should not care about? I would be happy if you would clarify. Kind Regards - S. - Original Message - From: Bob Proulx To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Cc: Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 1:41 AM Subject: Re: Several questions regarding compiled web server (/usr/local) - - wrote: > it's the first time I am not using Debian packages and > I have several questions regarding the correct use of > paths and permissions. Cherokee runs under www-data:www-data. I have no experience with Cherokee but let me try to help with the issues and questions in general. > I build Cherokee Web Server from source and there are > some differences between that and the package installation: Sure. > - Package: Uses /etc/cherokee/cherokee.conf and /var/www > - Source: Uses /usr/local/etc/cherokee.conf and /usr/local/var/www > - Question: While somehow the path of the config file looks > reasonable, I am not sure if it's common practice > to have the www-dir in /usr/local? It is general practice that packaged things go in /etc and /usr such as /etc/$pkgname, /usr/bin and /usr/lib while locally compiled software would go into /usr/local such as /usr/local/etc/$pkgname, /usr/local/bin and /usr/local/lib. That is the general default values for 99.44% of all configuration scripts. If you grab the source to almost any package and compile it then a location down /usr/local is what you would expect to get from a self-compiled package. That is okay. But you as the local administrator for your system are allowed to make your own decisions about the location for the installation. You may choose to put it elsewhere. That is okay too. You could choose to install it in /etc and /usr for your own package. That is okay. But it is also a little bit harder to keep local stuff separate from system stuff and so many people will choose a different location. A different location like the default /usr/local to keep them separate but if that isn't desired then some people would put these in the /opt and /var/opt trees. Others would put it in the /srv/ (services) tree. Those locations would be okay too. It is an arbitrary choice and you are okay if you choose something unique to your system. It is your system to craft as you wish. On Debian the /usr/local tree is nice because it is group writable by the 'staff' user. If you put yourself in the staff group then you can read, write, modify files in that directory tree as the group staff and then you do not need root to work there. I think that is safer when compiling and installing software from source. (I also find 'adm' to be useful to be able to view system logs so I will suggest it here too even if it isn't related to 'staff' nor /usr/local.) # adduser USER staff # replace USER with your account name # adduser USER adm Then make sure to log out and log back in again. Groups are only assigned to your process at login time. If you have already logged in then you won't get the additional groups. Log out and then log back in again after making the above change. Then you will have the permissions to do this with most software packages that use a standard configure-make process. $ ./configure $ make $ make check $ make install $ make uninstall And if you are not root at those times then you can be assured that if there is a bug in the Makefile then it won't be able to damage the rest of your system because it won't have permissions for any file outside of /usr/local. Therefore I believe it to be safer. > - Package: Had access to some graphs in /var/lib/somewhere. > Can't remember but it just worked. Too vague. Could be anything. But /var/lib/pkgname is the standard system location for writable data from packages. > - Source: Now accesses /usr/local/var/lib/cherokee/graphs > but has no permission. You would be expected to give it permission there. > - Question: I am confused because of the permissions in > /usr/local (2775 root:staff). I would simply change > the permissions of /usr/local/var/lib/cherokee > recursively to root:www-data and chmod it to g+w. > I am not sure if this is common practice or wrong! It is okay. The combination of user:group will depend upon how you wish to work with those files. If you are setting those file
Anyone using a Terratec Grabster under Debian?
Hi all, I've got a bunch of PAL (British) VCR tapes that I'm trying to transfer to DVDs which will play on a standard American DVD player. (Before someone suggests it, no, I don't have a multi-format combo DVD and VHS player!) The device I'm using for this is a Terratec Grabster, which takes the video output in at one end, and produces an MPEG via a USB connection. I was doing these conversions on an old Windows XP box, and everything was working just fine, but unhappily my XP box didn't survive a house move. :( Terratec don't even want to know about Linux, not to mention that my version of the device (the 400 Mk II) is now out of support. I've tried a VirtualBox VM using my old version of XP, but as best I'm able to determine, there's some problem with the video under a VM. Anyway, I just can't get it to work. What I would really like to do, of course, is to continue doing the conversions on my 64-bit Debian box, but this means I need to find a driver for the device (I found about the pvrusb2 drivers, but they're a few years old, and there was talk about them being included in later distros - anyone know?) AND I need to find software which can capture the MPEG stream from the USB port. If anyone out there has already solved this, or even just has some suggestions for what I can try, I'd be grateful. Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50c6ff9d.4060...@meadows.pair.com
Re: LVM devices and symlinks
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 11:09:50PM -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: > Neil T. Dantam wrote: > > I'm having an issue (not quite a problem) creating LVM logical > > volumes. It seems that the way device files and symlinks are created > > has changed between Squeeze and Wheezy (or I have some bad > > configuration). > > > Workarounds > > --- > > Here are a few workarounds I've figured out: > > > > 1. Give lvcreate the '-Z n' flag. This does create a usable logical > >volume, but won't work with snapshots. > > 2. Manually create a symlink > >'/dev/VGNAME/LVNAME -> /dev/mapper/VGNAME-LVNAME' > >before running lvcreate > > 3. Give lvcreate the '--noudevsync' option. In this case, lvcreate > >makes a symlink for > >'/dev/VGNAME/LVNAME -> /dev/mapper/VGNAME-LVNAME' > >on its own (apparently). > > What version of udev are you using? I could see this being a udev issue. and/or dmsetup. Might be worth installing that if missing. Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linuxhttp://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' schroot and sbuild http://alioth.debian.org/projects/buildd-tools `-GPG Public Key F33D 281D 470A B443 6756 147C 07B3 C8BC 4083 E800 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121211094700.go14...@codelibre.net
Re: multiarch - please do not force users to change a running system!
Hello Andrei, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > $ dpkg-deb -I debs/skype-debian_4.1.0.20-1_i386.deb > Architecture: i386 > Depends: libasound2 (>= 1.0.16), libc6 (>= 2.3.6-6~), libc6 (>= 2.7), > libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1), libqt4-dbus (>= 4:4.5.3), libqt4-network (>= 4:4.8.0), > libqt4-xml (>= 4:4.5.3), libqtcore4 (>= 4:4.7.0~beta1), libqtgui4 (>= > 4:4.8.0), libqtwebkit4 (>= 2.1.0~2011week13), libstdc++6 (>= 4.6), libx11-6, > libxext6, libxss1, libxv1, libssl1.0.0 Previously, Skype offered this i386 package and an amd64 package that was really the same but with Architecture:amd64 and a dependency on ia32-libs*. > As far as I can tell this is a plain i386 packages. Besides (haven't > read the multiarch specification), I don't think applications need any > conversion. One just needs to activate the proper architecture(s) and > then let the package managers do their job. Exactly. And Skype stopped putting out fake amd64 packages and decided to use multi-arch to support the amd64 users, the result of which is the above ‘multi-arch’ package. This doesn’t mean that the package is co-installable with itself or something like that. Best, Claudius -- CRSid cfh36 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: LVM devices and symlinks
Neil T. Dantam wrote: > New (broken) Behavior > Performing an `lvcreate -L10G -nLVNAME VGNAME` creates: > 1. New device file /dev/mapper/VGNAME-LVNAME > (and apparently nothing else) > Then, lvcreate tries to open /dev/VGNAME-LVNAME, which fails because > of no symlink with: >/dev/VGNAME/LVNAME: not found: device not cleared >Aborting. Failed to wipe start of new LV. Reboot the box after installing LVM. Based on my empirical sample of two, there's some dependency that I haven't tracked - and I must admit thought it was related to my weird installation process - that blocks the symlink creation after installing LVM but prior to a reboot. > Also, on a reboot of the machine, the device files end up in the > original configuration, with both /dev/mapper/VGNAME-LVNAME and > /dev/VGNAME/LVNAME as symlinks pointing to /dev/dm-N. Is http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=593375#25 (fixed) a related issue? It looks plausible to me. Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/qndjp9x0sp@news.roaima.co.uk
Re: Xen vs. KVM on Debian squeeze
P. J. McDermott wrote: > I'd like to set up virtualization on a home server with a Debian > GNU/Linux squeeze amd64 host and squeeze and wheezy amd64 guests. I'd recommend KVM and libvirt/VMM. > The server has two 3.0-GHz CPU cores (an AMD CPU with the AMD-V/SVM > virtualization extensions) and 2.0 GiB of RAM (which I'm planning to > either double or triple). My home server's running a single twin-core AMD Turion II N40L at 1.5GHz but has 8GB memory. No problems running several servers (at the moment), and has enough clout for me to be seriously considering a virtualised Windows 7 instance, too. > So I need a virtualization infrastructure that offers efficient CPU and > I/O virtualization and allows guest systems to gain or forfeit virtual > memory as their loads require (pooling my limited RAM as efficiently as > possible). I have relatively small memory allocations to the guests (~2GB) but with the balloon driver installed in case I need to tweak on the fly. I figure that a less-used guest will get pushed out to the host's swap if things start getting squeaky. > I'm not sure I like the idea of "freeing" memory by swapping, but at > least it's a simple design and easy to set up. Is there a newer method > in KVM (in Debian squeeze or squeeze-backports) of automatically growing > and shrinking guest systems' virtual memory space in RAM, preferably > without using swap? I had originally understood that this is what the balloon driver allowed, but I haven't found a way of controlling it automatically based on the host's available memory. Ah, http://aglitke.wordpress.com/2011/03/03/automatic-memory-ballooning-with-mom/ might be worth following through. > All things considered, I'm leaning slightly toward qemu-kvm, because it > looks like it'll do what I need in a simple and familiar way; but I'm > concerned about the performance of the CPU and I/O virtualization and > the page swapping. What I like about KVM/libvirt is that it (now) handles LVM as a volume pool, so I don't need to use large files in the filesystem to hold guests' backing store. What I don't like about KVM is its dependence on the backing store being an entire virtual disk, complete with partition table, etc. It makes growing filesystems an absolute pain (LVM resize, guest shutdown, fdisk/parted on partition file, resize guest filesystem, restart guest), but I don't do it too often. I also keep the filesystem layouts for my guests' primary disk as simple as possible (typically the "everything in one big filesystem" approach). What I do like about KVM is its ability to run non-aware guests. I have lost track of whether Xen would let me run an instance of Windows 7, for example. If you do go for KVM/libvirt, I would recommend the virtualised disk and network devices. Empirically they work well, and gut feel (i.e. not quantitatively) suggests that at worst they won't be any slower than emulations of physical devices and actually might be a little faster and/or more efficient. Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/loejp9xs4r@news.roaima.co.uk
Re: NFS automount not happening
Bob Proulx wrote: > The dhcpd will ping the address after the lease has expired and before > assigning it again and will notice that it is still in use and will > avoid assigning that address to another client. ICMP ping? Are you sure? According to the documents I've read (RFC2131 amongst others) it's the client that is responsible for renewing the lease. However, if you were to run a dhcp client on your diskless workstation then it would be assigned the same address that PXE had previously obtained, so all would be well. Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/89djp9xs6p@news.roaima.co.uk
APC SMT1000RMI2U and apcupsd ?
This is a 2U rack mount SmartUPS 1000 .. can anyone here confirm SMT1000RMI2U works with apscupsd on Debian? Cheers, Berni -- "Confidence is what you have before you understand a problem" - Woody Allen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50c72c02.7020...@gmail.com
Re: APC SMT1000RMI2U and apcupsd ?
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 12:50:10PM +, Berni Elbourn wrote: > This is a 2U rack mount SmartUPS 1000 .. can anyone here confirm SMT1000RMI2U > works with apscupsd on Debian? apcupsd SHOULD work in a limited capacity with that unit. The version in Wheezy or later is best as it has udev rules for the newer devices. However, while you'll get basic functionality (on-battery, low-battery etc notifications), you won't get the full functionality of the UPS without APC's powerchute software. This is because APC (now owned by Schneider Electric) have gone back to using a proprietary (undocumented) protocol called "MicroLink". Only Powerchute supports this, so if you want to know how much load is on your UPS or when the battery is due to fail or any of the other useful information the UPS knows, then either complain to APC, or use powerchute. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: APC SMT1000RMI2U and apcupsd ?
On 11/12/12 09:50, Berni Elbourn wrote: This is a 2U rack mount SmartUPS 1000 .. can anyone here confirm SMT1000RMI2U works with apscupsd on Debian? Cheers, Berni If your SmartUPS include a management card with network connection, then supports PowerChute protocol, you can connect ApcUpsd with your UPS through the network Regards Federico -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50c72d96.4080...@uncu.edu.ar
Re: NFS automount not happening
On 12/11/2012 11:08 AM, Chris Davies wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: >> The dhcpd will ping the address after the lease has expired and before >> assigning it again and will notice that it is still in use and will >> avoid assigning that address to another client. > > ICMP ping? Are you sure? I suppose Bob was referring to the ping-check as per the ISC dhcpd, see http://manpages.debian.net/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=dhcpd.conf The client has to renew the lease, indeed, but the server also tries to make sure there are no duplicate IPs in the network. Cheers Wolfgang -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50c72cbf.9020...@karall-edv.at
Re: APC SMT1000RMI2U and apcupsd ?
On 11/12/12 12:56, Federico Alberto Sayd wrote: On 11/12/12 09:50, Berni Elbourn wrote: This is a 2U rack mount SmartUPS 1000 .. can anyone here confirm SMT1000RMI2U works with apscupsd on Debian? Cheers, Berni If your SmartUPS include a management card with network connection, then supports PowerChute protocol, you can connect ApcUpsd with your UPS through the network Regards Federico Sadly the management card adds 40% to the price .. are the USB/RS232 a non starter? Berni -- "Confidence is what you have before you understand a problem" - Woody Allen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50c748ca.7070...@gmail.com
Re: APC SMT1000RMI2U and apcupsd ?
On 11/12/12 12:58, Darac Marjal wrote: On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 12:50:10PM +, Berni Elbourn wrote: This is a 2U rack mount SmartUPS 1000 .. can anyone here confirm SMT1000RMI2U works with apscupsd on Debian? apcupsd SHOULD work in a limited capacity with that unit. The version in Wheezy or later is best as it has udev rules for the newer devices. However, while you'll get basic functionality (on-battery, low-battery etc notifications), you won't get the full functionality of the UPS without APC's powerchute software. This is because APC (now owned by Schneider Electric) have gone back to using a proprietary (undocumented) protocol called "MicroLink". Only Powerchute supports this, so if you want to know how much load is on your UPS or when the battery is due to fail or any of the other useful information the UPS knows, then either complain to APC, or use powerchute. Agree with rant. Does the auto shut-down feature work with those limited features? Easiest protest for me would be to choose another maker who does have a Linux client for power down. Are there any alternatives to APC? Berni -- "Confidence is what you have before you understand a problem" - Woody Allen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50c74a05.6010...@gmail.com
Re: APC SMT1000RMI2U and apcupsd ?
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 02:58:13PM +, Berni Elbourn wrote: > On 11/12/12 12:58, Darac Marjal wrote: > >On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 12:50:10PM +, Berni Elbourn wrote: > >>This is a 2U rack mount SmartUPS 1000 .. can anyone here confirm > >>SMT1000RMI2U works with apscupsd on Debian? > > > >apcupsd SHOULD work in a limited capacity with that unit. The version in > >Wheezy or later is best as it has udev rules for the newer devices. > >However, while you'll get basic functionality (on-battery, low-battery > >etc notifications), you won't get the full functionality of the UPS > >without APC's powerchute software. This is because APC (now owned by > >Schneider Electric) have gone back to using a proprietary (undocumented) > >protocol called "MicroLink". Only Powerchute supports this, so if you > >want to know how much load is on your UPS or when the battery is due to > >fail or any of the other useful information the UPS knows, then either > >complain to APC, or use powerchute. > > > > > > Agree with rant. Does the auto shut-down feature work with those limited > features? Yes. The UPS does do what it's supposed to, but the added management niceties are locked away. Poor show, really. > > Easiest protest for me would be to choose another maker who does > have a Linux client for power down. Are there any alternatives to > APC? Your best bet is to look here: http://www.networkupstools.org/stable-hcl.html. Select "*" (5 stars) from the first dropdown and you'll get a list of several UPSes whose manufacturers have not only provided details of the protocol, but also sample handware for the good people at NUT to test on. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [OT] Good quality hair dryer needed for Squeeze
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 5:32 PM, Mark Panen wrote: > > Hi, > > I am replying to all, not used to sitting in the dark with the light of the > notebook to type only, Out here in the sticks there are always power > failures when it rains. I normally use pop, not used to gmail., the mobo is > two years old a midrange board with SATA 6 and USB 3.0, an ASUS, I also > thought it was the Ocean air and humidity but my other ASUS mobo has no > hassles. I have enough lightining protection to protect I dpn't know what > and always unplug before storm, I think I was naughty when I fist received > the board and overclocked it from 2.8 to 3.8 even though the temps where > fine ans I have a fantastic Zalman aftercooler. devede ran quite stable a > sdid prime sorry for the s[peeling my UPS is about to go flat Well, that was rather rambling, but to me is sounds like there is a fault in your motherboard. My guess is the heat from your hairdryer (how did you figure that out anyway?!) either dries out some bit that overly sensitive to moisture, or causes thermal expansion of some part that does not make enough contact otherwise... although in the second case, it should be more about ambient temperature, not about if there was a rain storm. Two years old, huh? So the warranty is.probably well over. I would say just get a new Mobo. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAFoWM=90zieyz5nxcrpzoo5qtfenqsxsnoe1jatptfmdnnb...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Need help recovering hard drive
On Sun, 09 Dec 2012 14:42:48 -0600 Dennis Wicks wrote: > Greetings; > > One of my hard drives quit working, and as luck would have > it, just before the scheduled backup! So I need to recover > some info that has been updated/added since the last backup. > > First, is there any thing I can do to get the system to > mount that drive even with errors? As it is right now I get > error messages at boot time and the drive isn't recognized. > Apparently doesn't make any difference whether the drive is > on controller 0 or 1 or is master or slave. > > Second, is there any program that I can use to get data of > off that drive? > > TIA for any help! > Dennis > > Hi, Dennis Have you looked at testdisk? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121211100127.4c8cb...@speeduke.wildblue.com
Re: [OT] Good quality hair dryer needed for Squeeze
On 12/11/2012 07:50 AM, Kelly Clowers wrote: On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 5:32 PM, Mark Panen wrote: Hi, I am replying to all, not used to sitting in the dark with the light of the notebook to type only, Out here in the sticks there are always power failures when it rains. I normally use pop, not used to gmail., the mobo is two years old a midrange board with SATA 6 and USB 3.0, an ASUS, I also thought it was the Ocean air and humidity but my other ASUS mobo has no hassles. I have enough lightining protection to protect I dpn't know what and always unplug before storm, I think I was naughty when I fist received the board and overclocked it from 2.8 to 3.8 even though the temps where fine ans I have a fantastic Zalman aftercooler. devede ran quite stable a sdid prime sorry for the s[peeling my UPS is about to go flat Well, that was rather rambling, but to me is sounds like there is a fault in your motherboard. My guess is the heat from your hairdryer (how did you figure that out anyway?!) either dries out some bit that overly sensitive to moisture, or causes thermal expansion of some part that does not make enough contact otherwise... although in the second case, it should be more about ambient temperature, not about if there was a rain storm. Two years old, huh? So the warranty is.probably well over. I would say just get a new Mobo. Cheers, Kelly Clowers Hi Mark, The first thing I would do is run a post check on the motherboard. If you are lucky your board has a built in post card. If not, you will have to buy one. They are nice to have around for such things. In case you are not familiar with post cards they have a numeric readout that ratchets up through the motherboards post process. The final number displayed can be looked up in a table that will tell you where and probably why the process failed. I would advise researching the post process on the net. If yours is built in ( like my intel i5-750 board) then instructions will be in your board manual. Intermittant problems are a bitch. Gary R. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50c75e5e.8050...@verizon.net
Re: Apt-get hangup (SOLVED)
On 12/06/2012 11:03 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: Gary Roach wrote: I just had to do a major restore on one of my systems and am having trouble with updates. What happened? And what did you do when you say you did a major restore? Setting up openoffice.org-core (1:3.2.1-11+squeeze8) ... /usr/lib/ure/bin/javaldx: error while loading shared libraries: libstlport_gcc.so.4.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory /usr/lib/ure/bin/regcomp.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstlport_gcc.so.4.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Look at that error message more closely. It is concerning on a couple of different levels. It is trying to open libstlport_gcc.so.4.6 but it fails. Start there. Why isn't that library available? (But why is it looking for that library at all?) $ ldd -d -r /usr/lib/ure/bin/javaldx linux-vdso.so.1 => (0x7c39f000) libuno_sal.so.3 => /usr/lib/ure/bin/../lib/libuno_sal.so.3 (0x7f979b384000) libjvmfwk.so.3 => /usr/lib/ure/bin/../lib/libjvmfwk.so.3 (0x7f979b168000) libstdc++.so.6 => /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 (0x7f979ae42000) ... The lines will go on and on for that program. Do they all resolve? Any errors? If so then what are the reasons for those errors? But why is it looking for libstlport_gcc? It isn't one of the libraries used by that program. $ ldd -d -r /usr/lib/ure/bin/javaldx | grep libstlport_gcc ...nothing... I can only guess that your restore was not completely successful. Bob Sorry about the mis-routing of the first message. The restore problem is a long story. Lets just say that what i've got is all I'm going to get. Things have changed since I started this thread. I found a really good missive at: http://www.mepis.org/docs/en/index.php?title=Repairing_apt-get_database that got me through the problem. The only package that couldn't be fixed was openoffice.org-filter-binfilter. This package is not essential. I purged this one and now have a clean system. I do have a major problem with KDE desktop icons now but that needs further investigation an maybe a topic for another thread. Thanks for the help Gary R. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50c7624e.5080...@verizon.net
Re: [OT] Good quality hair dryer needed for Squeeze
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 8:25 AM, Gary Roach wrote: > > > The first thing I would do is run a post check on the motherboard. If you > are lucky your board has a built in post card Uh, what? I would not call that luck, I would call that "I paid big money for real server-class equipment". I have never seen a post board come with consumer-class equipment.Maybe nowadays the really high-end enthusiast space has such things? Anyway, why do you need one? If the POST is coming up with anything it will beep a post code. Sure, it is more annoying to decipher than looking at a display, but you don't have to buy anything... And anyway it sounds like this MB never gets to post. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAFoWM=8ACvFCYAhG2Nj+o90Cd5=sw9ccvgmysj5ftxmyt4m...@mail.gmail.com
Re: [OT] Good quality hair dryer needed for Squeeze
On 12/11/2012 10:50 AM, Kelly Clowers wrote: On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 5:32 PM, Mark Panen wrote: Hi, I am replying to all, not used to sitting in the dark with the light of the notebook to type only, Out here in the sticks there are always power failures when it rains. I normally use pop, not used to gmail., the mobo is two years old a midrange board with SATA 6 and USB 3.0, an ASUS, I also thought it was the Ocean air and humidity but my other ASUS mobo has no hassles. I have enough lightining protection to protect I dpn't know what and always unplug before storm, I think I was naughty when I fist received the board and overclocked it from 2.8 to 3.8 even though the temps where fine ans I have a fantastic Zalman aftercooler. devede ran quite stable a sdid prime sorry for the s[peeling my UPS is about to go flat Well, that was rather rambling, but to me is sounds like there is a fault in your motherboard. My guess is the heat from your hairdryer (how did you figure that out anyway?!) either dries out some bit that overly sensitive to moisture, or causes thermal expansion of some part that does not make enough contact otherwise... although in the second case, it should be more about ambient temperature, not about if there was a rain storm. Two years old, huh? So the warranty is.probably well over. I would say just get a new Mobo. Cheers, Kelly Clowers It's also very possible one of the components is thermally sensitive and doesn't work unless it's heated slightly. I've seen this happen to IC's several times over the years. Unless the op has experience in troubleshooting and replacing components on multi-layer boards (and possibly surface mounting), my recommendation would also be a new Mobo. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50c77039.7020...@attglobal.net
udev device mapper rules for early boot?
Hello,
I have created a udev rule to set the owner of a specific block device:
SUBSYSTEM=="block",
ENV{DM_UUID}=="LVM-yYuoI8k05GWxZnz9BeEIwPUGGeojzF3dZZmXTYRqC051Tllj76OHdDlzYhKZUu7u",
OWNER="1000"
If I disable and re-enable this logical volume with lvchange, it gets
created with the correct owner.
However, when I boot the computer, the device is always owned by
root:disk instead.
I have added a custom hook to copy this rule into the initrd. I also
uncompressed and extracted the resulting initrd, and the rule is indeed
present in lib/udev/rules.d as 99-udev-custom.rules.
Does anyone have a suggestion of how I could debug this further? Why is
my rule ignored when the volume comes up the first time?
Best,
Nikolaus
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Re: multiarch - please do not force users to change a running system!
On Sat, 08 Dec 2012 13:40:02 +0100 "Hans-J. Ullrich" wrote: > Ok, I understood. But last question: Does debian make sure, that I get rid > from the old 32-bit libs included in the old ia32-libs package or do I have > to > search them manually, to get a clean system, without double 32-bit libs? Dateline the world: updated Debian Linux Kernel: 3.2.0-4-amd64 (12-10-2012) #apt-get update #apt-get dist-upgrade The following packages will be REMOVED: gtkorphan lib32v4l-0 libglade2-0 libgtk2-gladexml-perl The following NEW packages will be installed: (here it comes, the i386 multi-arch juggernaut) The following NEW packages will be installed: 9 upgraded, 197 newly installed, 4 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 83.5 MB of archives. After this operation, 118 MB of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue [Y/n]? And the answer to that of course is yes, so the waiting is over and the jabber although I did enjoy reading the solutions from our German fellow users. Some people don't like to wait, and I can understand that. Multi-Arch is now history. -- CK Richard Stallman has spoken out against Ubuntu because of Canonical's decision to integrate Amazon search results in the distribution's Dash search. ... "If you ever recommend or redistribute GNU/Linux, please remove Ubuntu from the distros you recommend or redistribute." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aipctif4a...@mid.individual.net
Re: Xen vs. KVM on Debian squeeze
Greetings, On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 10:33 AM, Chris Davies wrote: > P. J. McDermott wrote: >> I'd like to set up virtualization on a home server with a Debian >> GNU/Linux squeeze amd64 host and squeeze and wheezy amd64 guests. > > I'd recommend KVM and libvirt/VMM. I'd go for Xen. Not a virtualization expert, but i've installed a simple dom0 on squeeze with a sid PVM, on async raid1 with LVM; all through the debian instaler, no trouble. YMMV > What I like about KVM/libvirt is that it (now) handles LVM as a volume > pool, so I don't need to use large files in the filesystem to hold > guests' backing store. You can use LVM with Xen too. > What I do like about KVM is its ability to run non-aware guests. I have > lost track of whether Xen would let me run an instance of Windows 7, > for example. Xen supports HVMs, if the host CPU supports virtualization. You can also use pv-drivers to speed things up. Just my 2c. HTH, Nuno -- "On the internet, nobody knows you're a dog." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CADqA9uYgy7DVA0C52Coa9HeRKj=0hva3fjljirt9bje6sto...@mail.gmail.com
Re: udev device mapper rules for early boot?
On 11.12.2012 19:00, Nikolaus Rath wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have created a udev rule to set the owner of a specific block device:
>
> SUBSYSTEM=="block",
> ENV{DM_UUID}=="LVM-yYuoI8k05GWxZnz9BeEIwPUGGeojzF3dZZmXTYRqC051Tllj76OHdDlzYhKZUu7u",
> OWNER="1000"
[..]
> I have added a custom hook to copy this rule into the initrd. I also
[..]
> Does anyone have a suggestion of how I could debug this further? Why is
> my rule ignored when the volume comes up the first time?
Just a wild guess: the initrd does not have a user/group with uid 1000,
so the chown fails.
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Re: Xen vs. KVM on Debian squeeze
On 12/09/2012 07:48 AM, P. J. McDermott wrote: Hi, I'd like to set up virtualization on a home server with a Debian GNU/Linux squeeze amd64 host and squeeze and wheezy amd64 guests. I'm trying to decide between Xen 4.0 (with paravirtualized guests and probably the xend/xm toolstack) and qemu-kvm 0.12 or 1.1 (with the libvirt tools). My experience in this area is currently limited; I've only used qemu-kvm 0.12, and only through Virtual Machine Manager. So I'm looking for some advice and answers to help me decide how to set this up. The server has two 3.0-GHz CPU cores (an AMD CPU with the AMD-V/SVM virtualization extensions) and 2.0 GiB of RAM (which I'm planning to either double or triple). I'd like to run at least five guest systems to build software, manage mailing lists, serve files, manage a RAID 5 array using md, etc. So I need a virtualization infrastructure that offers efficient CPU and I/O virtualization and allows guest systems to gain or forfeit virtual memory as their loads require (pooling my limited RAM as efficiently as possible). (Ease of understanding and maintenance are nice as well, though I'm happy to read documentation.) I see that KVM supports a rather simple method of overcommitting memory [1], relying on Linux's lazy page allocation and swapping [2][3]. [1]: http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/FAQ#Is_dynamic_memory_management_for_guests_supported.3F [2]: http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/Memory [3]: https://access.redhat.com/knowledge/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Virtualization_Administration_Guide/sect-Virtualization-Tips_and_tricks-Overcommitting_with_KVM.html I'm not sure I like the idea of "freeing" memory by swapping, but at least it's a simple design and easy to set up. Is there a newer method in KVM (in Debian squeeze or squeeze-backports) of automatically growing and shrinking guest systems' virtual memory space in RAM, preferably without using swap? Xen used to have a userspace self-ballooning daemon called "xenballoond" [4], but it's no longer maintained [5] and it supposedly only supports Red Hat–family systems [6]. [4]: http://blog.xen.org/index.php/2008/08/27/xen-33-feature-memory-overcommit/ [5]: http://old-list-archives.xen.org/archives/html/xen-devel/2011-02/msg01333.html [6]: http://xenbits.xen.org/hg/xen-unstable.hg/file/91232efdcfdc/tools/xenballoon/xenballoond.README Now Xen supports "Transcendent Memory" or "tmem" (self-ballooning and frontswap self-shrinking) [7][8] instead. [7]: https://lwn.net/Articles/454795/ [8]: drivers/xen/xen-selfballoon.c in Linux 3.1 or later The tmem code is in the version of Linux in squeeze-backports, and the XEN_BALLOON option is enabled. But, as far as I can tell, CLEANCACHE, XEN_SELFBALLOONING, and FRONTSWAP are disabled. I'd rather not have to rebuild the Linux packages to install in my squeeze and wheezy domUs for this. All things considered, I'm leaning slightly toward qemu-kvm, because it looks like it'll do what I need in a simple and familiar way; but I'm concerned about the performance of the CPU and I/O virtualization and the page swapping. Can anyone show me that I've overlooked something about Xen in Debian or convince me that qemu-kvm will perform fine for my needs? Thanks, I would recommend you to go with Wheezy at least for dom0. It provides the XCP toolstack which is the new standard of Xen management in Debian. This will save you a lot of time as it is totally different from xend/xm toolstack. It doesn't make sense for you to learn xend/xm from scratch just for three-four upcoming months. The other thing with Squeeze version of linux-kernel there was strange bug discovered [1] causing the dynamic memory increase not working properly. It is not experienced on Wheezy. Consider LXC [2] in case you have some concerns of CPU/memory overhead and you plan to run only Linux virtual servers. [1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=693851 [2] http://wiki.debian.org/LXC -- Peter Viskup -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50c7900a.80...@gmail.com
Re: [OT] Good quality hair dryer needed for Squeeze
On 12/11/2012 09:10 AM, Kelly Clowers wrote: On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 8:25 AM, Gary Roach wrote: The first thing I would do is run a post check on the motherboard. If you are lucky your board has a built in post card Uh, what? I would not call that luck, I would call that "I paid big money for real server-class equipment". I have never seen a post board come with consumer-class equipment.Maybe nowadays the really high-end enthusiast space has such things? Anyway, why do you need one? If the POST is coming up with anything it will beep a post code. Sure, it is more annoying to decipher than looking at a display, but you don't have to buy anything... And anyway it sounds like this MB never gets to post. Cheers, Kelly Clowers Well my board is an Intel DP55KG that I paid about $180 for. Not cheap but not that expensive. There is a big difference between beep codes and numeric readouts. The numerics can give very detailed information as to the source of the problem. I will be willing to bet that the board got through some of the post steps even though nothing noticeable happened. Of course all of this is somewhat academic if his board doesn't have a built in post card. It's cheaper to just buy another motherboard. Gary R. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50c7914d.8020...@verizon.net
KDE kickoff launcher problem
Hi again (still?): Debian Squeeze system. After hammering down all of the problems caused by my abortive restore operation, I am left with problems with the KDE Kickoff launcher. Some of my software packages work fine with either the kickoff launcher or with desktop icons. Others won't work with either. I have tried reinstalling the programs and reinstalling KDE. Neither helped. Some of the major programs like Openoffice and Iceweasel will not work at all. I have run out of things to try. I don't understand KDE under the hood well enough to solve this one. All help will be sincerely appreciated. Gary R. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50c794bd.8020...@verizon.net
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Corrupted desktop
Hello, Could someone please advise the correct package to file a bug report against? I suspect it's gnome-tweak-tool, but I'm not sure. Test setup: 1. Created a VM, using debian-wheezy-DI-b4-amd64-CD-1.iso on Win7 host running Virtualbox. 2. Log in, go to Activities - applications - advanced settings - desktop. Turn on "Have file manager handle the desktop". 3. Shut down the VM (not restart). Do stuff for a while on the host. 4. Start VM, log in. Click on activities. Expected result: background should dim Actual result: background corrupts, often with stuff I have been looking at on the host. Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cabzjocvm0knqgqfqxcfpq7zpfynhrbv-9fhuakq-tze9+bq...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Corrupted desktop
I think this bug is more related to virtualbox or xorg. If you have time to check, you can try to configure a KDE desktop. If the same problem appear, it is not a gnome or gtk problem. If not, it might be gnome, or gtk. To have more clues in this situation, try xfce or lxde, and if the problem appear in more than one gtk-based DE but not on KDE, then it is a gtk problem, not a gnome one. Le 11.12.2012 23:19, Steve Handley a écrit : Hello, Could someone please advise the correct package to file a bug report against? I suspect it's gnome-tweak-tool, but I'm not sure. Test setup: 1. Created a VM, using debian-wheezy-DI-b4-amd64-CD-1.iso on Win7 host running Virtualbox. 2. Log in, go to Activities - applications - advanced settings - desktop. Turn on "Have file manager handle the desktop". 3. Shut down the VM (not restart). Do stuff for a while on the host. 4. Start VM, log in. Click on activities. Expected result: background should dim Actual result: background corrupts, often with stuff I have been looking at on the host. Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/226bbd1892c3172eae1403fdd8af5...@neutralite.org
Re: LVM devices and symlinks
At Tue, 11 Dec 2012 10:15:54 +, Chris Davies wrote: > > Reboot the box after installing LVM. Ah, a reboot has lvcreate working properly, thank you. > Based on my empirical sample of two, there's some dependency that I > haven't tracked - and I must admit thought it was related to my weird > installation process - that blocks the symlink creation after installing > LVM but prior to a reboot. > > > Also, on a reboot of the machine, the device files end up in the > > original configuration, with both /dev/mapper/VGNAME-LVNAME and > > /dev/VGNAME/LVNAME as symlinks pointing to /dev/dm-N. > > Is http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=593375#25 (fixed) > a related issue? It looks plausible to me. Seems possible, though I didn't see any /dev/.udev/failed, and that bug was supposedly fixed with udev 163-1 while wheezy's at 175-7. Thanks, -ntd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/ka8q62$lf1$1...@ger.gmane.org
