Re: Capslock mystery - Recent phenomena concerning keyboard

[Bob Proulx]

Curt wrote:
> Bob Proulx wrote:
> > Can you try this with the keyboard plugged in directly *without* the
> > KVM switch.  I suspect the KVM switch is the problem.  Especially if
> > you are using a USB keyboard switch.
> 
> Remember, the keyboard weighs 10 pounds!

I believe that was simply an exaggeration.  :-)

By the way...  The IBM Model M keyboard is an example of one of the
finest keyboards ever made.  Unicomp bought the rights to continue
making that same keyboard.  By all reports they are excellent.

KVM switches on the other hand often cause trouble.  Especially USB
versions.  The USB spec is terrible and every vendor implements it
slightly differently.  So whether something works or not is usually
based upon the combination of items plugged in together.

Bob


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Re: Recent Debian Preseed Error: "Logical Volume Manager not available"

[Bob Proulx]

Chris Hiestand wrote:
> I've had a stable, working, preseed configuration with no changes
> other than downloading the latest stable debian releases (netboot
> images). Suddenly partman has stopped working in my preseed:

If you swap back in the previous netboot image does that restore the
working behavior?  If so then that would be a strong indicator of a
bug in the latest files.  It would warrant a bug report in that case.

> Did the new kernel release drop LVM support, despite being required
> by preseed partman? Is anyone else having this problem?

Since I am using a Stable netboot I am not updating it until Wheezy.
So I can't confirm or deny the problem here.  But I did have other
comments.

> I'm not even creating an LVM-managed partition, just a basic one:
> 
> > d-i partman-partitioning/confirm_write_new_label boolean true
> > d-i partman/choose_partition select finish
> > d-i partman/confirm boolean true
> > d-i partman/confirm_nooverwrite boolean true
> > 
> > d-i partman-lvm/device_remove_lvm boolean true
> > d-i partman-md/device_remove_md boolean true
> > 
> > d-i partman/mount_style select uuid
> > d-i partman/default_filesystem string ext4
> > 
> > partman-auto partman-auto/disk string /dev/sda

> > partman-auto partman-auto/init_automatically_partition \
> >   select Guided - use the entire disk

Interesting.  I have never had to set that value.

> > partman-auto partman-auto/method string regular

I have always had to set the recipe too.  Such as atomic.  Or other.

  d-i partman-auto/choose_recipe select atomic

Bob


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Re: Capslock mystery - Recent phenomena concerning keyboard

[steef]

Harry Putnam schreef:

Running Wheezy - kde plasma

Running Debian / windows7 on a KVM switch (IOGEAR miniview 4 port DVI)

Keyboard is from `Unicomp' and weighs about 10 lbs.  Its not that old
but is in the old style with serious stand up keys and lots of clatter
when typing.

I've been running thru this switch for several months and a different
switch before that.

I've been using the keyboard for a couple of years.

All equipment has been in use a good while.

I've recently started having a problem where the capslock comes on
(seemingly randomly) but not the led that indicates its on.

I'll be typing and suddenly I'm in caps and have to turn caps lock on
(led comes on) to get back to lowercase.

Even that doesn't really work, since numbers stay upper case to what
ever symbols are the upper case for each (sometimes).

I'm not sure if its related to debian though it did seem to start
following a major update of pkgs.  (No I didn't keep a list).

The reason I say I'm not sure is that once it starts, even if I switch
to windows 7 host through the KVM, its still stuck on caps.

Googling on various strings, I see this problem coming up going way
back but not particularly recently or on debian.

After much fiddling, looking for stuck keys, unplugging/replugging
KVM/keyboard it seems to go back to normal, but the last time I
haven't been able to get back to normal so running with numlock and
caps lock turned on to get lowercase, normal shift activity, and
ability to type numbers.

I've been running that way for 2 days this time around.  And since it
seems to have stabilized with capslock on and I quit trying
to get it back to normal.

This time the numbers are working normally too, with or without
numlock, long as I keep capslock on.




hi,

know/knew the problem. please replace your keyboard woth a new one.

reg.,

steef


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Re: Software-upgrades not installable due to APT-misconfiguration ?

[Andreas Gläser]

> 
> Backports has 3.2, which according to 
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2012/01/msg00012.html is 
> going to be the next stable kernel ;)
> 
> First I would suggest you install 3.2 from backports, reboot to use it 
> and then remove any trace of testing/wheezy from your system 
> (apt-show-versions is good for this, or aptitude if you know the search 
> patterns). Also remove the pin and the sources.list entry.
> 
> If your system still won't upgrade cleanly after this please post 
> 'apt-cache policy' output for each of the packages to be upgraded.
> 
> BTW, it helps a lot if you keep output formating. If you mail client 
> pretends to know better you can output to a file and attach it instea:
> 
> $ apt-cache policy foo > foo.policy # and attach foo.policy
> 
> Hope this helps,
> Andrei


O.K., thanks a lot. I had problems using 'gmane' and could not find this thread
at once,
switched to the 'flat'-interface then and try replying through it now, too.
It appeared to me already that a 3.2. Kernel was available from
backports.debian.org.,
but I was going to wait, until it arrives in 'wheezy'.
News reached me already, that all user 'must' upgrade from 3.1. to 3.2., as this
is going the new Ubuntu-longterm-supported kernel.
So I suppose, Squeeze is oing to come with a 3.2.x kernel, too.
Will remove any connections to 'wheezy' now from this productive-use machine´s
configuration files.

Greetings


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Re: Software-upgrades not installable due to APT-misconfiguration ?

[Andreas Glaeser]

root@osrdii:/home/andreas# aptitude upgrade
Resolving dependencies...
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  libavcodec53{a} libavformat53{a} libavutil-extra-51{a} libpostproc-extra-52{a}
libswscale-extra-2{a} libx264-116{a} The following packages will be REMOVED:
  libartsc0{u} libbs2b0{u} libdirac-decoder0{u} libggi-target-x{u} libggi2{u}
libggiwmh0{u} libggiwmh0-target-x{u} libgii1{u} libgii1-target-x{u} 
mplayer-skin-blue{u} 
The following packages will be upgraded:
  lame libdrm-intel1 libdrm-radeon1 libdrm2 libmp3lame0 libxvidcore4 mencoder 
mplayer 
8 packages upgraded, 6 newly installed, 10 to remove and 3 not upgraded.
Need to get 10.1 MB of archives. After unpacking 12.1 MB will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n/?] Y
Get:1 http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports/ squeeze-backports/main
libavutil-extra-51 amd64 4:0.7.2.1~bpo60+1 [102 kB] Get:2
http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports/ squeeze-backports/main 
libmp3lame0 amd64
3.98.4+repack2-3~bpo60+1 [296 kB] Get:3 
http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports/
squeeze-backports/main libx264-116 amd64 2:0.116.2037+gitf8ebd4a-3~bpo60+1 [426 
kB] Get:4
http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports/ squeeze-backports/main 
libxvidcore4 amd64
2:1.3.2-5~bpo60+1 [346 kB] Get:5 http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports/
squeeze-backports/main libavcodec53 amd64 4:0.7.2-1~bpo60+1 [2,880 kB] Get:6
http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports/ squeeze-backports/main 
libavformat53 amd64
4:0.7.2-1~bpo60+1 [503 kB] Get:7 http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports/
squeeze-backports/main libpostproc-extra-52 amd64 4:0.7.2.1~bpo60+1 [127 kB] 
Get:8
http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports/ squeeze-backports/main 
libswscale-extra-2
amd64 4:0.7.2.1~bpo60+1 [130 kB] Get:9 
http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports/
squeeze-backports/main mplayer amd64 2:1.0~rc4.dfsg1+svn33713-2~bpo60+1 [2,690 
kB] Get:10
http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports/ squeeze-backports/main mencoder 
amd64
2:1.0~rc4.dfsg1+svn33713-2~bpo60+1 [1,178 kB] Get:11
http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports/ squeeze-backports/main lame amd64
3.98.4+repack2-3~bpo60+1 [172 kB] Get:12 
http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports/
squeeze-backports/main libdrm2 amd64 2.4.26-1~bpo60+1 [427 kB] Get:13
http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports/ squeeze-backports/main 
libdrm-intel1 amd64
2.4.26-1~bpo60+1 [429 kB] Get:14 http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports/
squeeze-backports/main libdrm-radeon1 amd64 2.4.26-1~bpo60+1 [419 kB] Fetched 
10.1 MB in
16s (597 kB/s) Reading changelogs... Done Selecting previously deselected 
package
libavutil-extra-51. (Reading database ... 171363 files and directories currently
installed.) Unpacking libavutil-extra-51
(from .../libavutil-extra-51_4%3a0.7.2.1~bpo60+1_amd64.deb) ... Preparing to 
replace
libmp3lame0 3.98.4-0.0 (using 
.../libmp3lame0_3.98.4+repack2-3~bpo60+1_amd64.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement libmp3lame0 ... Selecting previously deselected package
libx264-116. Unpacking libx264-116
(from .../libx264-116_2%3a0.116.2037+gitf8ebd4a-3~bpo60+1_amd64.deb) ... 
Preparing to
replace libxvidcore4 2:1.2.2-0.1
(using .../libxvidcore4_2%3a1.3.2-5~bpo60+1_amd64.deb) ... Unpacking replacement
libxvidcore4 ... Selecting previously deselected package libavcodec53. Unpacking
libavcodec53 (from .../libavcodec53_4%3a0.7.2-1~bpo60+1_amd64.deb) ... Selecting
previously deselected package libavformat53. Unpacking libavformat53
(from .../libavformat53_4%3a0.7.2-1~bpo60+1_amd64.deb) ... Selecting previously
deselected package libpostproc-extra-52. Unpacking libpostproc-extra-52
(from .../libpostproc-extra-52_4%3a0.7.2.1~bpo60+1_amd64.deb) ... Selecting 
previously
deselected package libswscale-extra-2. Unpacking libswscale-extra-2
(from .../libswscale-extra-2_4%3a0.7.2.1~bpo60+1_amd64.deb) ... Preparing to 
replace
mplayer 2:1.0~rc3++svn20100804-0.2squeeze1
(using .../mplayer_2%3a1.0~rc4.dfsg1+svn33713-2~bpo60+1_amd64.deb) ... Unpacking
replacement mplayer ... Replaced by files in installed package mencoder ... 
Processing
triggers for man-db ... Processing triggers for menu ... Processing triggers for
desktop-file-utils ... Processing triggers for gnome-menus ... (Reading 
database ...
171406 files and directories currently installed.) Removing libartsc0 ... 
(Reading
database ... 171404 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to 
replace
mencoder 2:1.0~rc3++svn20100804-0.2squeeze1
(using .../mencoder_2%3a1.0~rc4.dfsg1+svn33713-2~bpo60+1_amd64.deb) ... 
Unpacking
replacement mencoder ... Processing triggers for man-db ... (Reading database 
... 171388
files and directories currently installed.) Removing libbs2b0 ... Removing
libdirac-decoder0 ... Removing libggiwmh0-target-x ... Removing libggi-target-x 
...
Removing libggiwmh0 ... Removing libggi2 ...
Removing libgii1-target-x ...
Removing libgii1 ...
Removing mplayer-skin-blue ...
Processing triggers for man-db ...
Processing triggers for hico

Re: Software-upgrades not installable due to APT-misconfiguration ?

[Scott Ferguson]

On 31/01/12 18:50, Andreas Glaeser wrote:
> root@osrdii:/home/andreas# aptitude upgrade Resolving dependencies...
>  The following NEW packages will be installed: libavcodec53{a}
> libavformat53{a} libavutil-extra-51{a} libpostproc-extra-52{a} 
> libswscale-extra-2{a} libx264-116{a} The following packages will be
> REMOVED: libartsc0{u} libbs2b0{u} libdirac-decoder0{u}
> libggi-target-x{u} libggi2{u} libggiwmh0{u} libggiwmh0-target-x{u}
> libgii1{u} libgii1-target-x{u} mplayer-skin-blue{u} The following
> packages will be upgraded: lame libdrm-intel1 libdrm-radeon1 libdrm2
> libmp3lame0 libxvidcore4 mencoder mplayer 8 packages upgraded, 6
> newly installed, 10 to remove and 3 not upgraded. Need to get 10.1 MB
> of archives. After unpacking 12.1 MB will be freed. Do you want to
> continue? [Y/n/?] Y Get:1


That all looked fine... (I didn't mean to over-ride Andrei there).

> 
> Current status: 3 updates [-8]. root@osrdii:/home/andreas# apt-get
> -sf install Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree
>  Reading state information... Done 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0
> to remove and 3 not upgraded.

Kind of redundant now that you've used aptitude to upgrade - if you
hadn't I'd have then asked for the output of "apt-get -s upgrade".
In this case it looks I'd ask for the output of:-
# apt-get -sf dist-upgrade

> root@osrdii:/home/andreas# cat /etc/apt/preferences Package: * Pin:
> release a=squeeze-backports Pin-Priority: 200
> 
> Package: * Pin: release o=Debian,a=stable,n=squeeze,l=Debian 
> Pin-Priority: 700
> 
> Package: * Pin: release v=6.0,o=Unofficial Multimedia Packages,
> a=stable,n=squeeze, l=Unofficial Multimedia Packages Pin-Priority:
> 200


I'd probably put squeeze-backports higher than squeeze (stable), or at
least equal. Maybe see what Andrei suggests.

> 
> root@osrdii:/home/andreas#
> 
> So this seems like my issue is not solved yet, but looking into my
> E-mail inbox showed the following interesting thing:
> 
>> From: Gmane Autoauthorizer
>>  To:
>> bugs.andreas.glae...@freenet.de Subject: gmane.linux.debian.user:
>> Authorization required Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 12:44:09 +0100
>> 
>> You have sent a message to be posted on the gmane.linux.debian.user
>> newsgroup.
>> 
>> Before the message is posted on the newsgroup, you have to confirm
>> that you exist.  Just reply to this message, and the message will
>> be posted.
>> 
>> 
>> You have to respond within one week.
>> 
>> -- Your friendly autoauthorizer at Gmane.org http://gmane.org/
> 
> I replied to this message, so this question is probably resolved
> now.


Sorry - I have no suggestions there.

> 
>> Gmane has nothing to do with Debian. Likewise Google Groups, New 
>> Generation and various other self-appointed "gateways".
>> 
>> Consider subscribing to the debian mailing lists directly instead
>> of using an unassociated third party.  Gmane offers no advantages
>> over directly subscribing to the list, and all the disadvantages.
>> 
>> Dealing directly with the lists will, amongst other benefits,
>> prevent this breaking of threads that makes it harder for
>> everyone.
>> 
> 
> I really prefer using Gmane to getting all those raw E-mail messages.

You can use the Debian news gateway - you can even just respond directly
to through the archive. eg:- go to:-
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/01/author.html
find yourself:-
bottom of that page
open the relevant thread:-
(notice how there's four threads instead of just one?)
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/01/author.html
go to the bottom of the post and click on one of the "Replyto:" links.
In this example you'd be replying to yourself!
But normally you use the "next in thread" links below it to find someone
else's response to you post (that one it the one I'm replying to)
This method will either open a Reply in claws (keeping the thread
intact) or open a prompt from your browsers asking which program to
associate mailto: links with (choose claws).

> There is far too much traffic on that list of yours.


That sounds reasonable - though I'd suggest you consider a different
strategy for dealing with gmane - you have created several different
threads where there should have been just one. Most people manage to use
gmane without that happening - and broken threads creates an extra level
of difficulty which can cause people to decide it's too much hassle to
try and help you.
Perhaps some of the other gmane users can suggest ways for you to keep
track of threads.

The alternative - whereby you only receive emails to questions you posed
is to use the method I outlined above.

Hope that helps.

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Re: Capslock mystery - Recent phenomena concerning keyboard

[Jude DaShiell]

A slight variant of this also happens in command line mode too.  Random 
capslock activation does not happen.  But once capslock is hit, all 
letters are written in uppercase even after capslock is pressed again to 
turn it off.  Also, the only way to type lower case letters in this mode 
is to hold the shift key down as each letter is typed.  This is not unique 
to debian either.  I've made it happen in slackware too and quite a while 
ago too, so I suspect it's a long-standing linux kernel bug. On Tue, 31 
Jan 2012, steef wrote:

> Harry Putnam schreef:
> > Running Wheezy - kde plasma
> >
> > Running Debian / windows7 on a KVM switch (IOGEAR miniview 4 port DVI)
> >
> > Keyboard is from `Unicomp' and weighs about 10 lbs.  Its not that old
> > but is in the old style with serious stand up keys and lots of clatter
> > when typing.
> >
> > I've been running thru this switch for several months and a different
> > switch before that.
> >
> > I've been using the keyboard for a couple of years.
> >
> > All equipment has been in use a good while.
> >
> > I've recently started having a problem where the capslock comes on
> > (seemingly randomly) but not the led that indicates its on.
> >
> > I'll be typing and suddenly I'm in caps and have to turn caps lock on
> > (led comes on) to get back to lowercase.
> >
> > Even that doesn't really work, since numbers stay upper case to what
> > ever symbols are the upper case for each (sometimes).
> >
> > I'm not sure if its related to debian though it did seem to start
> > following a major update of pkgs.  (No I didn't keep a list).
> >
> > The reason I say I'm not sure is that once it starts, even if I switch
> > to windows 7 host through the KVM, its still stuck on caps.
> >
> > Googling on various strings, I see this problem coming up going way
> > back but not particularly recently or on debian.
> >
> > After much fiddling, looking for stuck keys, unplugging/replugging
> > KVM/keyboard it seems to go back to normal, but the last time I
> > haven't been able to get back to normal so running with numlock and
> > caps lock turned on to get lowercase, normal shift activity, and
> > ability to type numbers.
> >
> > I've been running that way for 2 days this time around.  And since it
> > seems to have stabilized with capslock on and I quit trying
> > to get it back to normal.
> >
> > This time the numbers are working normally too, with or without
> > numlock, long as I keep capslock on.
> >
> >
> 
> hi,
> 
> know/knew the problem. please replace your keyboard woth a new one.
> 
> reg.,
> 
> steef
> 
> 
> 


Jude 



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Re: My network speed is only 10MB

[Stan Hoeppner]

On 1/30/2012 10:15 AM, Camaleón wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Jan 2012 15:38:45 -0600, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
> 
>> On 1/22/2012 11:45 AM, hvw59601 wrote:
>>
>>> So I check NewEgg:
>>>
>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833122392 10Gb/s:
>>>
>>> Check that price! $279.99 Holy Cow! And that's the cheapest one!
>>
>> You're either a moron or a troll.  Which is it?
> 
> Is not a bad price for a 10 Gbps card.

It's not a card for Pete's sake!  It's a CX4 switch module.  Hence my
"moron" comment.  Why is everyone but me unable to know what this device
is simple by looking at the picture?  Maybe this will help:

http://www.netgear.com/business/products/switches/fully-managed-switches/switch-modules/AX744.aspx

> Other than that, I wonder why someone would need a 10 Gbps card without a 
> network infrastructure that supports it.

It's ironic that you mention "network infrastructure" in your next
sentence, after failing to realize what the mentioned product is--it IS
infrastructure.  This CX4 module plugs into the back of Netgear
switches.  It is used for linking two switch stacks together within a
rack or adjacent/nearby racks via a large expensive CX4 copper cable, or
connecting a high performance server or iSCSI NAS appliance to a switch
stack within the datacenter.  CX4 is limited to a 15 meter cable length,
about 50 feet.  It is rarely used for connecting equipment more than a
few racks apart as fiber or UTP is much more friendly to use in overhead
raceways.  The cable cost is very high, $100 for a 10ft cable.

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Re: please guide how install debian squeeze on asus eee pc 1215b

[Bob]

On 11/29/2011 12:40 PM, A. F. Cano wrote:

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 07:09:28PM -0800, manmath sahu wrote:

please guide how install debian squeeze on asus eee pc 1215b


You could start by going here:

http://4mhz.de/debian1215n.html

Not sure how different revision b is from revision n but it's the
closest match in the link below, which is how I got to the page
above.


The 1215n is Intel Atom based, the 1215b is AMD APU (either E450 or C50) 
based.


I'm seriously drooling over the E450 powered one, I'm going to drop by a 
laptop shop with a debian pendrive to see if things work, if it does & 
has an SD card slot that fully swallows an inserted card I'll get one.



http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/asus.html

This is where  they have installation instructions for many Asus models.


thanks,
manmath


Welcome.

A.



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second display

[Pastor ALexander]

I am lost on the site,
installing to my laptop the 42inch sharp tv screen comes up in 1024 instead of 
1360
pclinuxos and mint dont have this problem.
I like debian much better but this is irritating
everything else on debian i found better than on any other distro. all other 
problems have been solved by the exellent wiki
  

Re: Re (4): /usr/lib/mutt/mailto-mutt

[Brian]

On Mon 30 Jan 2012 at 16:59:14 -0700, peasth...@shaw.ca wrote:

> When viewing the page in Iceweasel, a click on the link invokes mailto-mutt
> with arguments containing header information.  mailto-mutt attempts to set up
> the message for mutt in Nano.  If you open
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/01/msg02236.html
> and click on the Reply-to link the process might work correctly.  I get this.
> 
> To: w.ca;/usr/lib/mutt/mailto-m...@joule.shaw.ca, debian-user@lists.debian.org
> 
> Obviously the first address is broken.  debian-user@... is right.  I don't
> understand the invokation of mailto-mutt well enough to perceive what is
> going wrong.  Is the problem in iceweasel or in mailto-mutt or in the perl
> script?

The machine you are posting from is joule. joule.shaw.ca does not appear
in the headers of your list mails so mailto-mutt must get it from
elsewhere. If you have a mutt configuration file in your home directory
try moving it and retrying.

For your project you might want to know the mutt in testing and unstable
handles mailto: differently from the one in stable. Bug #576313 is a
relevant read.


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Re: second display

[Jude DaShiell]

Study boot parameters then you get to control that feature once you put 
the correct boot parameters into your menu.list file.On Tue, 31 Jan 2012, 
Pastor ALexander wrote:

> 
> I am lost on the site,
> installing to my laptop the 42inch sharp tv screen comes up in 1024 instead 
> of 1360
> pclinuxos and mint dont have this problem.
> I like debian much better but this is irritating
> everything else on debian i found better than on any other distro. all other 
> problems have been solved by the exellent wiki
> 


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Re: Recent Debian Preseed Error: "Logical Volume Manager not available"

[Tom H]

On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 3:48 AM, Bob Proulx  wrote:
> Chris Hiestand wrote:
>> I've had a stable, working, preseed configuration with no changes
>> other than downloading the latest stable debian releases (netboot
>> images). Suddenly partman has stopped working in my preseed:
>
> If you swap back in the previous netboot image does that restore the
> working behavior?  If so then that would be a strong indicator of a
> bug in the latest files.  It would warrant a bug report in that case.
>
>> Did the new kernel release drop LVM support, despite being required
>> by preseed partman? Is anyone else having this problem?
>
> Since I am using a Stable netboot I am not updating it until Wheezy.
> So I can't confirm or deny the problem here.  But I did have other
> comments.
>
>> I'm not even creating an LVM-managed partition, just a basic one:
>>
>> > d-i partman-partitioning/confirm_write_new_label boolean true
>> > d-i partman/choose_partition select finish
>> > d-i partman/confirm boolean true
>> > d-i partman/confirm_nooverwrite boolean true
>> >
>> > d-i partman-lvm/device_remove_lvm boolean true
>> > d-i partman-md/device_remove_md boolean true
>> >
>> > d-i partman/mount_style select uuid
>> > d-i partman/default_filesystem string ext4
>> >
>> > partman-auto partman-auto/disk string /dev/sda
>
>> > partman-auto partman-auto/init_automatically_partition \
>> >   select Guided - use the entire disk
>
> Interesting.  I have never had to set that value.
>
>  d-i partman-auto/choose_recipe select atomic

They are the same.


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Re: Not getting mails in inbox

[Chen Wei]

On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 06:27:37PM +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote:
> The actual mail server can be determined from the IP address, the mail
> client from the MUA string (in a majority of cases), third party
> gateways (identifiable by the IP address) do a certain amount of
> obscuring of the originating mail/news server and news/email client.
> > 
> > News/Mail preference of total 18145 messages: email 14646 80.7% |
> > Gmane3327 18.3% | Misc-NNTP
> > 
Gmane means the message comes from gmane, etc.al. It is the best guess by
looking into header field such as 'X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host',
'Injection-Info', and 'NNTP-Posting-Host'. so there were 3327 messages
came from gmane.

> Do you have any figure for point of origin ie. of gmane, google groups
> and (you don't appear to have covered New Generation and Bob's
> favourite, Nabble) what percentage used the gateway's web interface?
assuming User-Agent string 'Loom' is the gmane web interface, there are
around 16%(14 of 85) gmane users post via web. However, only 2.5%
messages(82 of 3327) from gmane were posted via web. The news/mail user
count is not always accurate because user sometimes switched to other
ways of posting, so does the mua count.

There were only 3 messages with 'X-Nabble-From' header, they must from
Nabble. I didn't see any message from New Generation.





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Re: Software-upgrades not installable due to APT-misconfiguration ?

[Lisi]

On Tuesday 31 January 2012 07:50:48 Andreas Glaeser wrote:
> I really prefer using Gmane to getting all those raw E-mail messages. There
> is far too much traffic on that list of yours.

A valid decision.  But at that rate it is not much use complaining to the list 
if you don't like what Gmane does!!

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Re: Can't get NIC Bonding with active-backup working

[toor]

Hi

My first guess would be an arp issue. Have you tried a flush of the arp
table on the switches?

Re: Software-upgrades not installable due to APT-misconfiguration ?

[Andrei Popescu]

On Ma, 31 ian 12, 20:54:48, Scott Ferguson wrote:
> 
> > root@osrdii:/home/andreas# cat /etc/apt/preferences Package: * Pin:
> > release a=squeeze-backports Pin-Priority: 200
> > 
> > Package: * Pin: release o=Debian,a=stable,n=squeeze,l=Debian 
> > Pin-Priority: 700
> > 
> > Package: * Pin: release v=6.0,o=Unofficial Multimedia Packages,
> > a=stable,n=squeeze, l=Unofficial Multimedia Packages Pin-Priority:
> > 200
> 
> I'd probably put squeeze-backports higher than squeeze (stable), or at
> least equal. Maybe see what Andrei suggests.

Mmm, depends on what your goal is, but as far as I know backports is not 
suitable to be used like that.

In fact, the latest recommendation[1] is to not pin at all, since 
backports has priority 100 by default, which is enough to have 
backported packages upgraded (in case of bugs), but otherwise the system 
stays stable[2]

[1] http://backports-master.debian.org/Instructions/
[2] ... as in the stable release/version/distribution, not "not 
crashing" stable ;)

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Re: second display

[Andrei Popescu]

On Ma, 31 ian 12, 21:26:22, Pastor ALexander wrote:
> 
> I am lost on the site,
> installing to my laptop the 42inch sharp tv screen comes up in 1024 
> instead of 1360
> pclinuxos and mint dont have this problem.
> I like debian much better but this is irritating
> everything else on debian i found better than on any other distro. all 
> other problems have been solved by the exellent wiki
  
I'm not familiar with any other distro, but I suspect it is due to the 
fact that Debian uses free (as in freedom) graphics drivers by default 
and some of them still have issues with auto-detection. Please post more 
information about your graphics card, like the output of

lspci -nn | grep VGA

and attach your Xorg log (the file /var/log/Xorg.0.log)

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Re: Dell Inspiron N5010 laptop overheating on Debian 6.0.1, Linux 3.2.3, low CPU usage, radeon GPU driver

[M Stefan]

I did not understand exactly for the things You are fighting w/ but if
You are concerned on CPU too hot - I suggest to check if the modules
are loaded (not only installed on Your system) - so it was w/ mine
inspiron until I set it manually to be loaded.


Thank you for your reply,

The drivers are loaded, I've obtained the listing via lsmod.
Do you have any idea where else should I ask my question for higher chances
of obtaining an answer?

Simply put, the problem is that my Dell Inspiron N5010 (15R) is overheating
on Linux with very low CPU usage, but does not present any issues on 
Windows.
I've tried utilities like dellfand and i8kfan for controlling the fans, 
but they both claim
that I have only one fan and that it's already at highest speed (not 
sure if I have more

than one fan, or if the heating up is caused by the CPU or the GPU).

Stefan


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Re: how to refrain only use certain number of processors

[Nicolas Bercher]

On 31/01/2012 03:19, Cam Hutchison wrote:

seq 0 108 | xargs -I@ -P8 cat A_@.txt B_@.txt C_@.txt -o ABC_@.txt


Of course, this is (since cat -o doesn't exist):

  seq 0 108 | xargs -I@ -P8 cat A_@.txt B_@.txt C_@.txt > ABC_@.txt

but "> ABC_@.txt" is out of the scope of xargs.

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Re: how to refrain only use certain number of processors

[Nicolas Bercher]

What about the use of ulimit or any other tool that your sysadmin could control?

On the other hand, these solutions seem ok:

  
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1537956/bash-limit-the-number-of-concurrent-jobs

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/dev/disk/by-uuid/2a687c3c-ffb4-4577-9781-beb6b88eb71b normal

[lina]

~$ df
Filesystem 1K-blocks
Used Available Use% Mounted on
rootfs681584
531940115468  83% /
udev 4038260
  0   4038260   0% /dev
tmpfs 808928
928808000   1% /run
/dev/disk/by-uuid/2a687c3c-ffb4-4577-9781-beb6b88eb71b681584
531940115468  83% /

is it normal to have this?

I am worried.


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Re: /dev/disk/by-uuid/2a687c3c-ffb4-4577-9781-beb6b88eb71b normal

[lina]

:/dev/disk/by-uuid$ ls
0dc0ac69-7e3a-43d5-8582-aac085053f83
49ce4cbd-7ac8-4b2d-84da-85143d214ee3
ba00a966-7352-4749-b478-788fea4f1a83
f38f09c1-8cc3-485f-8235-1b23fc26fcc9
114ea034-62b3-4266-b80f-e8bd43c90bfe
4c106bc2-cb98-4795-9cff-6da66d0da771
c826cf6e-a284-4741-a8e4-89b75991d801
25ad7887-39b1-4375-b9aa-0840cb84cb75  70D6-1701
 d38248c3-eb61-3bdc-9ba8-79f04ad34c8a
2a687c3c-ffb4-4577-9781-beb6b88eb71b
97068b98-deae-4d79-baa1-0e3110aa18b6
f013d06c-641d-4340-a620-9aeb3ce9a356


I do worry about it?
did not see this before.


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Re: /dev/disk/by-uuid/2a687c3c-ffb4-4577-9781-beb6b88eb71b normal

[lina]

:/dev$ df -h
Filesystem  Size  Used
Avail Use% Mounted on
rootfs  666M  520M  113M  83% /
udev3.9G 0
3.9G   0% /dev
tmpfs   790M  928K
790M   1% /run
/dev/disk/by-uuid/2a687c3c-ffb4-4577-9781-beb6b88eb71b  666M  520M  113M  83% /
tmpfs   1.6G   88K
1.6G   1% /run/shm
/dev/sda4   217M   56M
150M  28% /boot
/dev/sda714G  8.1G
5.3G  61% /home
/dev/sda13  544G  398G
119G  78% /scratch
/dev/sda8   571M   25M
518M   5% /tmp
/dev/sda915G  7.1G
7.1G  50% /usr
/dev/sda10  6.5G  442M
5.8G   7% /usr/local
/dev/sda11  3.5G  711M
2.6G  22% /var
/dev/sda12  7.0G  3.1G
3.6G  47% /var/local


others seems normal. I did not mount after restart.
and weird is that the restart after login,
it showed me three terminals (which I might not closed before restart,
here is restart not hilbernate).


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Re: /dev/disk/by-uuid/2a687c3c-ffb4-4577-9781-beb6b88eb71b normal

[lina]

:/dev/disk/by-uuid$ ls -lrt
total 0
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Jan 31 23:49
0dc0ac69-7e3a-43d5-8582-aac085053f83 -> ../../sda6
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Jan 31 23:49
d38248c3-eb61-3bdc-9ba8-79f04ad34c8a -> ../../sda2
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Jan 31 23:49 70D6-1701 -> ../../sda1
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Jan 31 23:49
2a687c3c-ffb4-4577-9781-beb6b88eb71b -> ../../sda5
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 Jan 31 23:49
114ea034-62b3-4266-b80f-e8bd43c90bfe -> ../../sda14
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Jan 31 23:49
f38f09c1-8cc3-485f-8235-1b23fc26fcc9 -> ../../sda4
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Jan 31 23:49
c826cf6e-a284-4741-a8e4-89b75991d801 -> ../../sda7
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 Jan 31 23:49
25ad7887-39b1-4375-b9aa-0840cb84cb75 -> ../../sda13
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Jan 31 23:49
ba00a966-7352-4749-b478-788fea4f1a83 -> ../../sda8
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Jan 31 23:49
49ce4cbd-7ac8-4b2d-84da-85143d214ee3 -> ../../sda9
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 Jan 31 23:49
f013d06c-641d-4340-a620-9aeb3ce9a356 -> ../../sda10
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 Jan 31 23:49
4c106bc2-cb98-4795-9cff-6da66d0da771 -> ../../sda11
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 Jan 31 23:49
97068b98-deae-4d79-baa1-0e3110aa18b6 -> ../../sda12


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Re: how to refrain only use certain number of processors

[lina]

I need time to understand the suggestions have been given.

A quick thanks.

Best regards,

On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 12:10 AM, Nicolas Bercher  wrote:
> What about the use of ulimit or any other tool that your sysadmin could
> control?
>
> On the other hand, these solutions seem ok:
>
>  http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1537956/bash-limit-the-number-of-concurrent-jobs
>
>
> Nicolas
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Re: Re (6): POP3 in Debian

[Camaleón]

On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 12:21:58 -0700, peasthope wrote:

> From: =?utf-8?B?Q2FtYWxlw7Nu?=  Date: Mon, 30 
Jan
> 2012 19:48:09 +0100
>> Sorry if I bothered you.
> 
> Slightly irked.  No scars.
> 
>> ... don't know who ...
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niklaus_Wirth
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal_%28programming_language%29 & etc.
> 
>> ... or what company makes the development ...
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ETH_Z%C3%BCrich
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oberon_operating_system
> http://www.oberon.ethz.ch/

Is that a complete OS instead a standalone MUA? Things are getting more 
complex.

>> ... just a user POV ...
> 
> It is my page giving information rather than opinion.

Oh, it was yours? Sorry, didn't notice O:-)

>> It makes me really doubt :-)
> 
> What's to doubt?

About if it is a bug or user's misconfiguration.
 
>> Sure, that's why I can put my hand on fire for Oberon.
> 
> Stick to mutt.

I'll take your word because I only can speak for Mutt.

>> Yup, I know. IIRC I reviewed and added some hints for that page ;-)
> 
> It's still evolving.

And getting better.

>> "People" and "rational" can't go in the same phrase, they collide
> 
> Often, yes.

Sadly, more than often, I'd say. People is lazy (and unrational) "by 
design" and will do whatever cost less for him/her. And Mutt's usability 
has nothing to do with a webmail in this regard. It's a lost battle.

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xserver-xorg vs. xserver-xorg-video-nouveau

[Stayvoid]

Hello there!

What's the difference between these packages?


Cheers.


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Re: kernel failure message 1: nel pagin request at.....

[Camaleón]

On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 23:19:25 +, daniel sosa lena wrote:

(please, no html...)

> Hi ppl, new debian user here with squeeze stable release. I would like
> to understand what does this mean:
> 
> Kernel failure message 1: nel paging request at 00010153 IP:
> [<00010153>] 0x10153 PGD 1ecd79067 PUD 0  Oops: 0010 [#2]
> SMP and a long list of stuff. It prompted asking to send a message to
> developers and I did, not knowing that I would loose te whole text to
> copy it all here. What I copy is what I pasted in google to find if it
> was a known issue and it gave me no answer.
> 
> Is it bad?

Yes, it's a "kernel oops¹". I would report it at Debian BTS or ask at 
Debian kernel mailing list for further advice.

¹http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_kernel_oops

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Truecrypt

[Stayvoid]

Hi there!

I want to encrypt my files automatically when I close my laptop. Is it possible?
Which directories should be encrypted? Where is stored my personal
information (GPG keys, personal data etc.)?

I'm using gNewSense (it's a Debian-based distro).


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Re: My network speed is only 10MB

[Camaleón]

On Tue, 31 Jan 2012 04:18:44 -0600, Stan Hoeppner wrote:

> On 1/30/2012 10:15 AM, Camaleón wrote:
>> On Sun, 22 Jan 2012 15:38:45 -0600, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
>> 
>>> On 1/22/2012 11:45 AM, hvw59601 wrote:
>>>
 So I check NewEgg:

 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833122392
 10Gb/s:

 Check that price! $279.99 Holy Cow! And that's the cheapest one!
>>>
>>> You're either a moron or a troll.  Which is it?
>> 
>> Is not a bad price for a 10 Gbps card.
> 
> It's not a card for Pete's sake!  It's a CX4 switch module. 

Uh?

> Hence my "moron" comment.  Why is everyone but me unable to know what
> this device is simple by looking at the picture?  Maybe this will help:
> 
> http://www.netgear.com/business/products/switches/fully-managed-switches/switch-modules/AX744.aspx

Oh, I see...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/10_Gigabit_Ethernet#10GBASE-CX4

Never heard about this before.

>> Other than that, I wonder why someone would need a 10 Gbps card without
>> a network infrastructure that supports it.
> 
> It's ironic that you mention "network infrastructure" in your next
> sentence, after failing to realize what the mentioned product is--it IS
> infrastructure.  

(...)

Dude, calm down... I did not realize it was a specific kind of 10 gigabit 
adapter for HPC computing requirements and more specifically a module for 
connecting switches.

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Re: No locks available.

[lina]

On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 5:08 AM, Panayiotis Karabassis  wrote:
> An idea:
>
> Can you see if this command returns any PIDs?

Sorry I did not notice this email.

>
> $ fuser -m a.log

$ fuser
-bash: fuser: command not found

uname -a
Linux 2.6.9-42.0.10.ELlargesmp #1 SMP Tue Feb 27 09:59:08 EST 2007
x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

Thanks,

>
> On 01/21/2012 05:12 PM, lina wrote:
>> On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 10:53 PM, Camaleón  wrote:
>>> On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 22:36:30 +0800, lina wrote:
>>>
 On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 10:26 PM, Camaleón  wrote:
>>>
> Can you please tell where is located that "a.log" file and what
> software generates it?
>>>
 The a.log is in the working directory. In other servers, it works fine.
 so it only has problem on this server. gromacs.
>>>
>>> What's the working directory and what's the involved software?
>>>
>>> Your posts are too cryptic.
>>
>> might be too straightforwards in the last post? the involved software
>> is gromacs.
>>
>> It has no problem to restart the whole process again, but can't
>> resume. it can be resumed on other servers.
>> resume can save lots of time, but restart will do all those former things 
>> again.
>>
>> (sorry about the cryptic suspicious, I am very lazy in talking
>> sometimes. not very talkative style person)
>>
>>>
> Are all those "nones" right?
>>>
 No idea. I contacted the system administrator days ago, He will consider
 re-build it?!
>>>
>>> Rebuild what? The full system? >:-?
>> seems. it's a bit older. 2.6.9-42.0.10.ELlargesmp #1 SMP Tue Feb 27
>> 09:59:08 EST 2007 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
>>
>> so I wonder there might some ways to avoid it, something relevant to
>> "lock"? time schedule?
>>
>>>
> Google suggests the problem can be related to the NFS mounted home but
> I have no direct experience with that kind of networking filesystem.
> Maybe you can start digging from that :-?

 I tried. some information get me lost so easily.
>>>
>>> If the "a.log" file is indeed located inside a NFS share I would start
>>> from there.
>>
>> Thanks, will dig further.
>>
>>>
>>> Greetings,
>>>
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Re: how to examine the network issue

[lina]

On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 1:03 AM, Camaleón  wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 13:18:50 +0800, lina wrote:
>
>> I found I can ssh to server,
>
> To what server? Local server, remote server...?

local. it happened in the past. now it's gone.

>
>> but could not open some webpage.
>
> What page?
>
>> but can open google on and off. is it weird?
>
> It is if you don't provide more data :-)
>
>> The connection was reset
>
> (...)
>
> It can be indeed a transient problem with that site.
>
> Greetings,
>

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Re: Cusp finally working BUT something missing PARTLY SOLVED

[Camaleón]

On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 15:09:40 -0500, Wayne Topa wrote:

> On 01/30/2012 11:28 AM, Camaleón wrote:

(...)

> But I'm using GNOME and this can be make a difference. What DE/WM
> are you using?

 Fluxbox
>>
>> (...)
>>
>> Mmm, than may explain some things :-)
>>
>>
> Yes but what?  I have been using fluxbox for 2-3 years and, before the
> cups problem a year ago, the print selection was working OK.

If it was there but is not longer an option it can be a bug, sure.

I told you so because Opera, for instance, provides different printing 
options for KDE and GNOME though the reason is unknown to me. So I 
thought Firefox could be a similar case...

>> I think Firefox/Iceweasel menu and options can vary depending on the
>> DE.
>>
>>
> Let's see if anyone else using fluxbox and iceweasel in Wheezy reads
> this and can say if the print Option 'Print Selection' is in their
> iceweasel.  Please??

Yup, would be nice if someone can at least confirm that point.

>> I see the rest of the problems have been vanished after an update,
>> good.
> 
> Seems like a developer reads this list.  THANKS!!

:-)

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Re: /dev/disk/by-uuid/2a687c3c-ffb4-4577-9781-beb6b88eb71b normal

[Sven Joachim]

On 2012-01-31 17:11 +0100, lina wrote:

> ~$ df
> Filesystem 1K-blocks
> Used Available Use% Mounted on
> rootfs681584
> 531940115468  83% /
> udev 4038260
>   0   4038260   0% /dev
> tmpfs 808928
> 928808000   1% /run
> /dev/disk/by-uuid/2a687c3c-ffb4-4577-9781-beb6b88eb71b681584
> 531940115468  83% /
>
> is it normal to have this?

If you use a UUID in the root=… kernel commandline, /etc/mtab is a
symlink to /proc/mounts, and the initramfs uses busybox (all the case by
default), this is to be expected.  The reason is that the root
filesystem is mounted in the initramfs, and busybox's mount
implementation does not canonicalize the /dev/disk/by-uuid path name.
See http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=653073.

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Re: Cusp finally working BUT something missing PARTLY SOLVED

[Camaleón]

On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 18:30:15 -0500, Wayne Topa wrote:

> On 01/30/2012 11:28 AM, Camaleón wrote:

(...)

>>> Print/Options Print Selections is still missing
>>
>> You can download Firefox from upstream and check from there. If the
>> missing option ("print selected") is present here, then try using a new
>> profile with Iceweasel. If still no luck, you can consider in opening a
>> bug report at Debian BTS.
>>
>>
> The Print Selection is also missing in the nightly build of FireFox and
> Aurora.
> 
> So it seems to NOT be an iceweasel problem but something else.  Now to
> find out what that something is.
> 
> Isn't linux fun!
> 
> Thanks again Camaleon

Wow... if the upstream firefox also lacks for that printing option I 
don't even know where to look at (fluxbox, firefox...) :-?

Have you considered in opening a bug report in Firefox's bugzilla? Maybe 
they can point you to the right direction.

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Re: xserver-xorg vs. xserver-xorg-video-nouveau

[Sven Joachim]

On 2012-01-31 17:47 +0100, Stayvoid wrote:

> What's the difference between these packages?

See the package descriptions.  The xserver-xorg-video-nouveau package
contains a video driver for NVidia cards, while xserver-xorg is a
metapackage that depends on all necessary parts of the X window system:
The X server, input and video drivers and keyboard data.

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Re: xserver-xorg vs. xserver-xorg-video-nouveau

[Camaleón]

On Tue, 31 Jan 2012 19:47:29 +0300, Stayvoid wrote:

> What's the difference between these packages?

You can go here, search and read:

http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages

***
Package: xserver-xorg (1:7.5+8+squeeze1)
the X.Org X server

This package depends on the full suite of the server and drivers for the 
X.Org X server. It does not provide the actual server itself. 
***


***
Package: xserver-xorg-video-nouveau (1:0.0.15+git20100329+7858345-5)
X.Org X server -- Nouveau display driver (experimental)

This driver for the X.Org X server (see xserver-xorg for a further 
description) provides support for NVIDIA Riva, TNT, GeForce, and Quadro 
cards.

Although the nouveau project aims to provide full 3D support it is not 
yet complete, and these packages do not include any 3D support. Users 
requiring 3D support should use the non-free "nvidia" driver.

This package is built from the FreeDesktop.org xf86-video-nouveau driver. 
***

In brief, the former will install (by dependencies) the full Xorg server 
with all of the VGA drivers while the latter is just a set of FOSS  
drivers for nvidia cards.

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Re: how to examine the network issue

[Camaleón]

On Wed, 01 Feb 2012 01:14:25 +0800, lina wrote:

> On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 1:03 AM, Camaleón  wrote:
>> On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 13:18:50 +0800, lina wrote:
>>
>>> I found I can ssh to server,
>>
>> To what server? Local server, remote server...?
> 
> local. it happened in the past. now it's gone.

Good to know :-)

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Re: Truecrypt

[Alexey Eromenko]

TrueCrypt is non-free software, and as a gNewSense user you should know it.

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Re: Software-upgrades not installable due to APT-misconfiguration ?

[Lisi]

On Monday 30 January 2012 11:44:04 Andreas Gläser wrote:
> News reached me already, that all user 'must' upgrade from 3.1. to 3.2., as
> this is going the new Ubuntu-longterm-supported kernel.
> So I suppose, Squeeze is oing to come with a 3.2.x kernel, too.

???

Sorry, I can't follow this at all.   Why do other distros have to upgrade to 
Ubuntu's long term support kernel??

More explanation needed, perhaps??

Lisi


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Re: how to refrain only use certain number of processors

[lina]

On 1 Feb, 2012, at 1:19, Nicolas Bercher  wrote:

> On 31/01/2012 17:22, lina wrote:
>> I need time to understand the suggestions have been given.
> 
> Yes, of course.  But this may interest other pepole on the list since your
> topic since to be of great interest for others, including me!

http://mywiki.wooledge.org/ProcessManagement#I_want_to_process_a_bunch_of_files_in_parallel.2C_and_when_one_finishes.2C_I_want_to_start_the_next._And_I_want_to_make_sure_there_are_exactly_5_jobs_running_at_a_time

This one is helpful also.  From Greg's wiki. A nice and smart guy with blaming 
temper, at least that's how did I feel. so i feel uncomfortable ask bash 
question on bash list.  

I prefer Debian list very much.  

Thanks, 

> 
> Nicolas


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Re: Dead keys doesn't work in gnome 3 apps since update

[Camaleón]

El 2012-01-31 a las 08:24 +0100, Oscar Vidakovic escribió:

(sending back to the list)

> > Hi. Please, no html... thanks :-)
> 
> Oh! Sorry. Hope now there's no HTML :-)

Perfect, thanks.
 
> > > Since I updated my Wheeze and it installed gnome 3, spanish accents dead
> > > keys ("´", "`", etc) stoped working in gnome apps as dead keys. I mean
> > > to say that when I press the "`" key and the "a" key it wirtes "´a"
> > > instead of "á". I mainly work with KDE desktop and have no complete
> > > gnome installation, but only few apps as chrome or Deluge.
> > (...)
> >
> > Are you using a Spanish keyboard?
> >
> > It works fine here (full gnome3 install). Re-add the spanish layout from
> 
> Yes, I have a Spanish keyboard. Testing I have installed complete
> GNOME 3 desktop and changed the layout and had no success. I read
> somewhere that it sometimes happen on installations with no Spanish
> locale during installation process even if the locale is changed
> lately. Well, I cannot asure but I suspect that this could be problem.
> Also I've checked with dconf-editor
> for possible keys causing the problem with no success.

Mmm, it's weird. I usually make frugal installations for testing 
purposes which are performed in English and once the system is 
installed I add a Spansih keyboard layout (not even the locale, just 
add a new layout to get the right keyboard mapping because my keyboard 
is also Spanish). But this has never been a problem, I can choose 
the layout on the fly which is is automatically applied :-?
 
> Anyway I decided finally to reinstall the system yesterday, as I've
> spended more than two weeks trying to solve the problem.  I know that
> this is not the right way to solve it, but I needed to solve the
> problem to continue working normaly.
> 
> Thank you very much for your interest and help,
> Oscar

Ouch! That's a bit overwhelming for a keyboard layout issue, but if now 
is working it should be fine. Maybe it was a missing package that now 
is there.

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Re: second display

[Camaleón]

On Tue, 31 Jan 2012 21:26:22 +1100, Pastor ALexander wrote:

(please, no html... thanks)

> I am lost on the site,
> installing to my laptop the 42inch sharp tv screen comes up in 1024
> instead of 1360 pclinuxos and mint dont have this problem. I like debian
> much better but this is irritating everything else on debian i found
> better than on any other distro. all other problems have been solved by
> the exellent wiki

You can use "xrandr" (command line tool) to add the new screen resolution 
in the event is has not been automatically detected by your system.

Xrandr is a very powerful tool that allows you to make funny things with 
your screen (better if you are using an open source VGA driver, such as 
intel, nouveau or radeon) though is not easy to deal with.

Debian wiki has a page for it:

http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR12

But you will have more information and specific command line examples by 
Googling around. For instance, I found this article very useful ("Adding 
undetected resolutions"):

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution

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Re: xserver-xorg vs. xserver-xorg-video-nouveau

[Stayvoid]

> In brief, the former will install (by dependencies) the full Xorg server
> with all of the VGA drivers...
Will it install Nouveau this way?

Should I install Nouveau drivers after the installation of the server itself?


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Re: Truecrypt

[Stayvoid]

> TrueCrypt is non-free software, and as a gNewSense user you should know it.
Thanks! What could you recommend as a replacement?


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Re: Cusp finally working BUT something missing PARTLY SOLVED

[Wayne Topa]

On 01/31/2012 12:28 PM, Camaleón wrote:

On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 18:30:15 -0500, Wayne Topa wrote:


On 01/30/2012 11:28 AM, Camaleón wrote:


(...)


Print/Options Print Selections is still missing


You can download Firefox from upstream and check from there. If the
missing option ("print selected") is present here, then try using a new
profile with Iceweasel. If still no luck, you can consider in opening a
bug report at Debian BTS.



The Print Selection is also missing in the nightly build of FireFox and
Aurora.

So it seems to NOT be an iceweasel problem but something else.  Now to
find out what that something is.

Isn't linux fun!

Thanks again Camaleon


Wow... if the upstream firefox also lacks for that printing option I
don't even know where to look at (fluxbox, firefox...) :-?

Have you considered in opening a bug report in Firefox's bugzilla? Maybe
they can point you to the right direction.


Google show this has been reported many times in the last 4 years.  So 
they know about it already.  Somewhere in the back of my head I keep 
thinking that there is 'something' external to firefox causing this and 
it is, or was, gconf.n  As I don't rune gnome, tried it for an hour once

and hated it, I try to avoid 'any' gnome packages.

Woops, just checked and I had two gome packages installed.  Removing 
them and restarting iceweasel didn't help.  ;-(


I believe that I saw the same problem on stable, 2 different testing
installs, and on sid.  I will check them know and report back.

Till then, Best Regards

Wayne



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Re: how to get gdm3 greeter to display menu of hosts for remote login via xdmcp

[Camaleón]

On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 01:01:02 -0500, Rick Thomas wrote:

> How do I get the gnome3 greeter to give me a menu of hosts on the local
> network who are willing to accept an xdmcp login?

(...)

I don't know if that's still an option because gdm3 is an ongoing work 
and there have been design changes as well as some options are still 
missing (e.g., language selection?). 

Anyway, I would check if xdmcp is enabled in the config file:

5.4.6. XDCMP Support
http://library.gnome.org/admin/gdm/stable/configuration.html.en#xdmcpsection

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Re: xserver-xorg vs. xserver-xorg-video-nouveau

[Camaleón]

On Tue, 31 Jan 2012 21:30:59 +0300, Stayvoid wrote:

>> In brief, the former will install (by dependencies) the full Xorg
>> server with all of the VGA drivers...

> Will it install Nouveau this way?

Which one, "xserver-xorg"? Yes, it will. And lot of additional stuff you 
may or may not want.

> Should I install Nouveau drivers after the installation of the server
> itself?

You're going too fast :-)

First define your goals and your current situation then we will able to 
provide the best solution for your needs.

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Re: Cusp finally working BUT something missing PARTLY SOLVED

[Camaleón]

On Tue, 31 Jan 2012 13:48:08 -0500, Wayne Topa wrote:

> On 01/31/2012 12:28 PM, Camaleón wrote:

(...)

>>> The Print Selection is also missing in the nightly build of FireFox
>>> and Aurora.
>>>
>>> So it seems to NOT be an iceweasel problem but something else.  Now to
>>> find out what that something is.
>>>
>>> Isn't linux fun!
>>>
>>> Thanks again Camaleon
>>
>> Wow... if the upstream firefox also lacks for that printing option I
>> don't even know where to look at (fluxbox, firefox...) :-?
>>
>> Have you considered in opening a bug report in Firefox's bugzilla?
>> Maybe they can point you to the right direction.
> 
> Google show this has been reported many times in the last 4 years.  So
> they know about it already.  Somewhere in the back of my head I keep
> thinking that there is 'something' external to firefox causing this and
> it is, or was, gconf.n  As I don't rune gnome, tried it for an hour once
> and hated it, I try to avoid 'any' gnome packages.

(...)

It could be... IIRC the footer and header options were also missing but 
"came to life" after an update so it can be the same for this :-?

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Re: Dell Inspiron N5010 laptop overheating on Debian 6.0.1, Linux 3.2.3, low CPU usage, radeon GPU driver

[Sthu Deus]

Good time of the day, Stefan.


You worte:

>Do you have any idea where else should I ask my question for higher
>chances of obtaining an answer?

No. May to try to contact manufacturer?

>Simply put, the problem is that my Dell Inspiron N5010 (15R) is
>overheating on Linux with very low CPU usage, but does not present any
>issues on Windows.
>I've tried utilities like dellfand and i8kfan for controlling the
>fans, but they both claim
>that I have only one fan and that it's already at highest speed (not 
>sure if I have more
>than one fan, or if the heating up is caused by the CPU or the GPU).

I scarcely know how things are going regarding Your question -
including mine systems. So, all I can add to my previous
words/experience w/ the problem is to try w/ the services that are
running on my Inspiron seems regarding the matter (I am not sure what
everything bellow does, but You can investigate farther or play w/ it)
it started w/ for my run level:

acpi-fakekey

fancontrol

acpid

acpi-support

apmd

loadcpufreq

cpufrequtils

I hope it should work for You - if other earlier mentioned modules have
been loaded - as it works for me.


Sthu.


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Re: Software-upgrades not installable due to APT-misconfiguration ?

[Scott Ferguson]

On 01/02/12 01:30, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> On Ma, 31 ian 12, 20:54:48, Scott Ferguson wrote:
>>
>>> root@osrdii:/home/andreas# cat /etc/apt/preferences Package: * Pin:
>>> release a=squeeze-backports Pin-Priority: 200
>>>
>>> Package: * Pin: release o=Debian,a=stable,n=squeeze,l=Debian 
>>> Pin-Priority: 700
>>>
>>> Package: * Pin: release v=6.0,o=Unofficial Multimedia Packages,
>>> a=stable,n=squeeze, l=Unofficial Multimedia Packages Pin-Priority:
>>> 200
>>
>> I'd probably put squeeze-backports higher than squeeze (stable), or at
>> least equal. Maybe see what Andrei suggests.
> 
> Mmm, depends on what your goal is, but as far as I know backports is not 
> suitable to be used like that.
> 
> In fact, the latest recommendation[1] is to not pin at all, since 
> backports has priority 100 by default, which is enough to have 
> backported packages upgraded (in case of bugs), but otherwise the system 
> stays stable[2]
> 
> [1] http://backports-master.debian.org/Instructions/
> [2] ... as in the stable release/version/distribution, not "not 
> crashing" stable ;)
> 
> Kind regards,
> Andrei
Thanks for doing my homework for me :-)

I've changed preferences on the test box accordingly.


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Re: /dev/disk/by-uuid/2a687c3c-ffb4-4577-9781-beb6b88eb71b normal

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Wed, 2012-02-01 at 00:16 +0800, lina wrote:
> :/dev$ df -h
> Filesystem  Size  Used
> Avail Use% Mounted on
> rootfs  666M  520M  113M  83% 
> /
> udev3.9G 0
> 3.9G   0% /dev
> tmpfs   790M  928K
> 790M   1% /run
> /dev/disk/by-uuid/2a687c3c-ffb4-4577-9781-beb6b88eb71b  666M  520M  113M  83% 
> /
> tmpfs   1.6G   88K
> 1.6G   1% /run/shm
> /dev/sda4   217M   56M
> 150M  28% /boot
> /dev/sda714G  8.1G
> 5.3G  61% /home
> /dev/sda13  544G  398G
> 119G  78% /scratch
> /dev/sda8   571M   25M
> 518M   5% /tmp
> /dev/sda915G  7.1G
> 7.1G  50% /usr
> /dev/sda10  6.5G  442M
> 5.8G   7% /usr/local
> /dev/sda11  3.5G  711M
> 2.6G  22% /var
> /dev/sda12  7.0G  3.1G
> 3.6G  47% /var/local
> 
> 
> others seems normal. I did not mount after restart.
> and weird is that the restart after login,
> it showed me three terminals (which I might not closed before restart,
> here is restart not hilbernate).

You can mount by label, UUID or whatever you want. Yes, it's normal.


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Re: xserver-xorg vs. xserver-xorg-video-nouveau

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Tue, 2012-01-31 at 19:47 +0300, Stayvoid wrote:
> Hello there!
> 
> What's the difference between these packages?
> 
> 
> Cheers.

xserver-xorg includes X and xserver-xorg-video-nouveau includes a borked
Nvidia driver for X.


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Re: xserver-xorg vs. xserver-xorg-video-nouveau

[Sven Joachim]

On 2012-01-31 20:29 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

> xserver-xorg includes X and xserver-xorg-video-nouveau includes a borked
> Nvidia driver for X.

This "borked" driver works fine for me.  YMMV, of course.

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Re: Software-upgrades not installable due to APT-misconfiguration ?

[Scott Ferguson]

On 01/02/12 04:58, Lisi wrote:
> On Monday 30 January 2012 11:44:04 Andreas Gläser wrote:
>> News reached me already, that all user 'must' upgrade from 3.1. to 3.2., as
>> this is going the new Ubuntu-longterm-supported kernel.
>> So I suppose, Squeeze is oing to come with a 3.2.x kernel, too.
> 
> ???
> 
> Sorry, I can't follow this at all.   Why do other distros have to upgrade to 
> Ubuntu's long term support kernel??
> 
> More explanation needed, perhaps??


Simple. Tail wags dog. Wet makes rain.
Don't understand? Be more simple.
;-)


> 
> Lisi
> 
> 

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Re: xserver-xorg vs. xserver-xorg-video-nouveau

[Brian]

On Tue 31 Jan 2012 at 21:30:59 +0300, Stayvoid wrote:

> Should I install Nouveau drivers after the installation of the server itself?

If you know you have an Nvidia card install xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
first.


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VNC into a Debian Machine

[James Allsopp]

Hello,
I really want to be able to use VNC to be able to view the full Gnome 
desktop on my laptop. I've been able to view a grey screen and a 
terminal, using vnc4server and tigervnc or vinagre, but what I'd like to 
be able to do is just view a whole screen as if I was actually there.


I'd like avoid xdmcp if possible, as it would be great to use it from 
anywhere, rather than just locally,


Any suggestions, pointers to good tutorials welcome!
Thanks
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Re: xserver-xorg vs. xserver-xorg-video-nouveau

[Brian]

On Tue 31 Jan 2012 at 20:51:21 +0100, Sven Joachim wrote:

> Sven,
>  maintainer of the "borked" package

Seeing as you mention it - it is time to say 'thank you'.


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only console login after latest sid upgrade

[Seb]

Hi,

I upgraded my sid system on my desktop and laptop this morning and
restarted only to find out I get straight into a console login, not the
usual KDM login window.  The upgraded included the latest kernel image
package (3.2.0) and thought that might be the culprit so installed the
previous version (3.1.0) and restarted but ran into the same problem.
Is anyone else experiencing this?


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Re: only console login after latest sid upgrade

[Salvatore Bonaccorso]

Hi Seb

On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 02:31:21PM -0600, Seb wrote:
> I upgraded my sid system on my desktop and laptop this morning and
> restarted only to find out I get straight into a console login, not the
> usual KDM login window.  The upgraded included the latest kernel image
> package (3.2.0) and thought that might be the culprit so installed the
> previous version (3.1.0) and restarted but ran into the same problem.
> Is anyone else experiencing this?

I suspect it is libaudit0. I had the same.

See [1] and [2].

 [1] http://bugs.debian.org/658153
 [2] http://bugs.debian.org/658170

You could either downgrade libaudit0 to 1.7.18-1 or update to
1:1.7.18-1.1 as soon it is build and installed into the archive.

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Re: only console login after latest sid upgrade

[Nuno Magalhães]

On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 20:36, Salvatore Bonaccorso
 wrote:

>> Is anyone else experiencing this?

How about checking X's log? Or kdm's?

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Re: only console login after latest sid upgrade

[Seb]

On Tue, 31 Jan 2012 21:36:09 +0100,
Salvatore Bonaccorso  wrote:

> Hi Seb
> On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 02:31:21PM -0600, Seb wrote:
>> I upgraded my sid system on my desktop and laptop this morning and
>> restarted only to find out I get straight into a console login, not
>> the usual KDM login window.  The upgraded included the latest kernel
>> image package (3.2.0) and thought that might be the culprit so
>> installed the previous version (3.1.0) and restarted but ran into the
>> same problem.  Is anyone else experiencing this?

> I suspect it is libaudit0. I had the same.

> See [1] and [2].

>  [1] http://bugs.debian.org/658153 [2] http://bugs.debian.org/658170

> You could either downgrade libaudit0 to 1.7.18-1 or update to
> 1:1.7.18-1.1 as soon it is build and installed into the archive.

Brilliant, that was precisely the problem.  Downgrading libaudit0 did
get me back in business.  Thanks, that would have taken hours
troubleshooting.

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Wireless connection not working

[Gustavo J Mata]

Hi,  I have installed Debian 6.03 in a Dell Inspiron 700m. My wireless
connection is not working.

I'm using the WCID network manager under the LXDE desktop manager. (I
have 500 Mb of memory and 5.5 GB o disk space).

My Linksys router is configured to use WAP 2 Personal security.

Any hints?

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Re: Wireless connection not working

[Steve Mayer]

On Jan 31, 2012, at 1:17 PM, Gustavo J Mata wrote:
> Hi,  I have installed Debian 6.03 in a Dell Inspiron 700m. My wireless
> connection is not working.
> 
> I'm using the WCID network manager under the LXDE desktop manager. (I
> have 500 Mb of memory and 5.5 GB o disk space).
> 
> My Linksys router is configured to use WAP 2 Personal security.
> 
> Any hints?
> 
> Gustavo J. Mata


Gustavo,

  Have you looked in the contents of the /var/log/wicd/wicd.log file to see if 
there are any errors?

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Re: VNC into a Debian Machine

[Scott Ferguson]

On 01/02/12 06:16, James Allsopp wrote:
> Hello,
> I really want to be able to use VNC to be able to view the full Gnome
> desktop on my laptop. I've been able to view a grey screen and a
> terminal, using vnc4server and tigervnc or vinagre, but what I'd like to
> be able to do is just view a whole screen as if I was actually there.

I'd of thought you'd be able to have full colour, full screen remote
sessions using those packages... odd.

Perhaps you're not allowing for the differences in resolution and colour
depth.

> 
> I'd like avoid xdmcp if possible, as it would be great to use it from
> anywhere, rather than just locally,

xdmcp requires UDP, otherwise it's not restricted to local networks.
Don't overlook ssh -X.

> 
> Any suggestions, pointers to good tutorials welcome!
> Thanks
> James
> 
> 
Have you tried tightvncserver?

The proprietary nomachine is also quite good, and good with low
bandwidth connections.


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Re: Wireless connection not working

[Camaleón]

On Tue, 31 Jan 2012 16:47:30 -0430, Gustavo J Mata wrote:

> Hi,  I have installed Debian 6.03 in a Dell Inspiron 700m. My wireless
> connection is not working.
> 
> I'm using the WCID network manager under the LXDE desktop manager. (I
> have 500 Mb of memory and 5.5 GB o disk space).
> 
> My Linksys router is configured to use WAP 2 Personal security.
> 
> Any hints?

Yes... what kind of wireless adapter does your computer use? Maybe you 
need to install a closed firmware to get the card working :-?

http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi

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Re: VNC into a Debian Machine

[cletusjenkins]

 On Tue, 31 Jan 2012 11:16:46 -0800 James 
Allsopp wrote  


 > Hello, 
 > I really want to be able to use VNC to be able to view the full Gnome  
 > desktop on my laptop. I've been able to view a grey screen and a  
 > terminal, using vnc4server and tigervnc or vinagre, but what I'd like to  
 > be able to do is just view a whole screen as if I was actually there. 
 >  
 > I'd like avoid xdmcp if possible, as it would be great to use it from  
 > anywhere, rather than just locally, 
 >  
 > Any suggestions, pointers to good tutorials welcome! 
 > Thanks 
 > James 

Have you tried installing the vino package? It seems to do exactly what you are 
wanting. It looks like when you start vncserver the .xsession file for it 
doesn't have a window manager setup to start or perhaps it has a really basic 
one like tab. I haven't used vncserver in a few years, so I forget how you 
define its equivalent of .xsession, sorry.


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Re: Wireless connection not working

[Shaun Jones]

On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 3:30 PM, Camaleón  wrote:

> On Tue, 31 Jan 2012 16:47:30 -0430, Gustavo J Mata wrote:
>
> > Hi,  I have installed Debian 6.03 in a Dell Inspiron 700m. My wireless
> > connection is not working.
> >
> > I'm using the WCID network manager under the LXDE desktop manager. (I
> > have 500 Mb of memory and 5.5 GB o disk space).
> >
> > My Linksys router is configured to use WAP 2 Personal security.
> >
> > Any hints?
>
> Yes... what kind of wireless adapter does your computer use? Maybe you
> need to install a closed firmware to get the card working :-?
>
> http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi
>
> Greetings,
>
> --
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>
>
> --
>

 I know when I install xfce it uses wicd as well and I need to remove it
and install gnome-networkmanager to get my wireless working. WICD does not
even see my wireless network.  So figured it was a bug and I have the same
router and same security configuration as you. So that would be my fix
remove wicd and install network-manager.



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would I need to start coding some basic cgi in apache? Thanks.

Re: Cusp finally working BUT something missing PARTLY SOLVED

[Wayne Topa]

On 01/31/2012 12:28 PM, Camaleón wrote:

On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 18:30:15 -0500, Wayne Topa wrote:


On 01/30/2012 11:28 AM, Camaleón wrote:


(...)


Print/Options Print Selections is still missing


You can download Firefox from upstream and check from there. If the
missing option ("print selected") is present here, then try using a new
profile with Iceweasel. If still no luck, you can consider in opening a
bug report at Debian BTS.



The Print Selection is also missing in the nightly build of FireFox and
Aurora.

So it seems to NOT be an iceweasel problem but something else.  Now to
find out what that something is.

Isn't linux fun!

Thanks again Camaleon


Wow... if the upstream firefox also lacks for that printing option I
don't even know where to look at (fluxbox, firefox...) :-?

Have you considered in opening a bug report in Firefox's bugzilla? Maybe
they can point you to the right direction.


Prior to the following tests i tried both icewm and blackbox.
The problem, (no Print Selection option available) remains.

I have just completed a test of the following:

Stable running iceweasel 3.5.16  Print Selection available YES
Testing (upgraded from squeeze 6.0.3)  iceweasel 8.0-3b1  NO
Testing-2 9 (from Debian testing Cut)  iceweasel 8.0-3b1  NO
Sid ( from upgraded debian-6.0.3/wheezt/sid) iceweasel 9.0.1-1  NO
Wheezy/Sid (from upgraded debian-6.0.3/)  iceweasel 9.0.1-1  NO

Mozilla firefox  iceweasel 9.0.1-1  NO
Mozilla Aurora  iceweasel 9.0.1  NO

Note:  I could not test printing on Stable due to the cup fixes for a 
USB to Parallel adapter are in Wheezy and Sid.  I did not check 
backports for the required files.


It seems that the problem is upstream Mozilla code, not Debian.

Hope this get fixed sooner or later but I am not holding my breath as,
according to a Google search, this problem has been reported since 2008.

Wayne


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Re: Wireless connection not working

[Gustavo J Mata]

WCID reports a 'bad password', but I've double checked to make sure
that I'm using the right one.

Below I've copied a few lines from the log:

2012/01/31 17:27:04 :: Connecting to wireless network \x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x
00\x00\x00\x00
2012/01/31 17:27:04 :: iwconfig eth1
2012/01/31 17:27:04 :: attempting to set hostname with dhclient
2012/01/31 17:27:04 :: using dhcpcd or another supported client may work better
2012/01/31 17:27:04 :: /sbin/dhclient -v -r eth1
2012/01/31 17:27:04 :: ifconfig eth1 0.0.0.0
2012/01/31 17:27:04 :: /sbin/ip route flush dev eth1
2012/01/31 17:27:04 :: ifconfig eth1 down
2012/01/31 17:27:04 :: ifconfig eth1 up
2012/01/31 17:27:04 :: wpa_cli -i eth1 terminate
2012/01/31 17:27:04 :: attempting to set hostname with dhclient
2012/01/31 17:27:04 :: using dhcpcd or another supported client may work better
2012/01/31 17:27:04 :: /sbin/dhclient -v -r eth0
2012/01/31 17:27:05 :: ifconfig eth0 0.0.0.0
2012/01/31 17:27:05 :: /sbin/ip route flush dev eth0
2012/01/31 17:27:05 :: ifconfig eth0 down
2012/01/31 17:27:05 :: ifconfig eth0 up
2012/01/31 17:27:05 :: Putting interface down
2012/01/31 17:27:05 :: ifconfig eth1 down
2012/01/31 17:27:05 :: Releasing DHCP leases...


On 1/31/12, Steve Mayer  wrote:
> On Jan 31, 2012, at 1:17 PM, Gustavo J Mata wrote:
>> Hi,  I have installed Debian 6.03 in a Dell Inspiron 700m. My wireless
>> connection is not working.
>>
>> I'm using the WCID network manager under the LXDE desktop manager. (I
>> have 500 Mb of memory and 5.5 GB o disk space).
>>
>> My Linksys router is configured to use WAP 2 Personal security.
>>
>> Any hints?
>>
>> Gustavo J. Mata
>
>
> Gustavo,
>
>   Have you looked in the contents of the /var/log/wicd/wicd.log file to see
> if there are any errors?
>
> Steve Mayer
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>
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Re: xserver-xorg vs. xserver-xorg-video-nouveau

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Tue, 2012-01-31 at 19:45 +, Brian wrote:
> On Tue 31 Jan 2012 at 21:30:59 +0300, Stayvoid wrote:
> 
> > Should I install Nouveau drivers after the installation of the server 
> > itself?
> 
> If you know you have an Nvidia card install xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
> first.

Camaleón asked for the goals. I agree with this question.

What version of Debian do you have installed?
What Nvidia graphics?
What computer?
Do you need perfect, very fast 3D acceleration?
What screen resolution will you use?

Depending to the answers one of 3 or 4 drivers might be ok.
Usually people will use the proprietary nvidia driver or the FLOSS
nouveau driver. Sometimes the old nv driver is the best way to go. Very
seldom vesa could be needed.

2 Cents,
Ralf


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Re: Wireless connection not working

[Gustavo J Mata]

This is the info for the card:

Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG [Calexico2]
Network Connection (rev 05)

I installed the ipw2200 driver.

On 1/31/12, Camaleón  wrote:
> On Tue, 31 Jan 2012 16:47:30 -0430, Gustavo J Mata wrote:
>
>> Hi,  I have installed Debian 6.03 in a Dell Inspiron 700m. My wireless
>> connection is not working.
>>
>> I'm using the WCID network manager under the LXDE desktop manager. (I
>> have 500 Mb of memory and 5.5 GB o disk space).
>>
>> My Linksys router is configured to use WAP 2 Personal security.
>>
>> Any hints?
>
> Yes... what kind of wireless adapter does your computer use? Maybe you
> need to install a closed firmware to get the card working :-?
>
> http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi
>
> Greetings,
>
> --
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Re: Wireless connection not working

[Gustavo J Mata]

On 1/31/12, Shaun Jones  wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 3:30 PM, Camaleón  wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 31 Jan 2012 16:47:30 -0430, Gustavo J Mata wrote:
>>
>> > Hi,  I have installed Debian 6.03 in a Dell Inspiron 700m. My wireless
>> > connection is not working.
>> >
>> > I'm using the WCID network manager under the LXDE desktop manager. (I
>> > have 500 Mb of memory and 5.5 GB o disk space).
>> >
>> > My Linksys router is configured to use WAP 2 Personal security.
>> >
>> > Any hints?
>>
>> Yes... what kind of wireless adapter does your computer use? Maybe you
>> need to install a closed firmware to get the card working :-?
>>
>> http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi
>>
>> Greetings,
>>
>> --
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>>
>>
>> --
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>
>  I know when I install xfce it uses wicd as well and I need to remove it
> and install gnome-networkmanager to get my wireless working. WICD does not
> even see my wireless network.  So figured it was a bug and I have the same
> router and same security configuration as you. So that would be my fix
> remove wicd and install network-manager.
>
>
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I'll see if I can fit Network Manager in my LXDE installation...


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Re: Wireless connection not working

[cletusjenkins]

 On Tue, 31 Jan 2012 14:11:23 -0800 Gustavo J Mata  wrote  

>This is the info for the card: 
> 
>Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG [Calexico2] 
>Network Connection (rev 05) 
> 
>I installed the ipw2200 driver. 
> 

Have you installed firmware-linux-nonfree package? Mine is also an intel 
chipset, but a different model. Mine wouldn't work without the non-free 
firmware.


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Re: Software-upgrades not installable due to APT-misconfiguration ?

[Andrei Popescu]

On Mi, 01 feb 12, 06:55:44, Scott Ferguson wrote:
> On 01/02/12 04:58, Lisi wrote:
> > On Monday 30 January 2012 11:44:04 Andreas Gläser wrote:
> >> News reached me already, that all user 'must' upgrade from 3.1. to 3.2., as
> >> this is going the new Ubuntu-longterm-supported kernel.
> >> So I suppose, Squeeze is oing to come with a 3.2.x kernel, too.
> > 
> > ???
> > 
> > Sorry, I can't follow this at all.   Why do other distros have to upgrade 
> > to 
> > Ubuntu's long term support kernel??

It's just a supposition by Andreas, the Debian announcement says:

"Debian, Ubuntu and others will work upstream on a 3.2.y longterm
series of bug fixes."

http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2012/01/msg00012.html

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Re: xserver-xorg vs. xserver-xorg-video-nouveau

[Gilbert Sullivan]

On 01/31/2012 03:07 PM, Brian wrote:
> On Tue 31 Jan 2012 at 20:51:21 +0100, Sven Joachim wrote:
> 
>> Sven,
>>  maintainer of the "borked" package
> 
> Seeing as you mention it - it is time to say 'thank you'.
> 
> 

+ 1 to this.

Many thanks to Sven, not only for his work as a package maintainer but
as a contributor on this newsgroup.

The nouveau drivers made my Dell Precision workstation usable for the
last few months of its life. The binary blobs caused all sorts of
headaches with the various DEs I used on that computer (Gnome, LXDE,
Xfce). All of the little gotchas went away when I switched to nouveau.

Yeah, there were a couple of issues with nouveau, too. But -- because it
was open source -- I was able to figure some of them out myself, and get
answers for others -- most notably from Sven, himself. Having a properly
functioning DE is a lot more important for this old curmudgeon than
having 3D acceleration.

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Re: xserver-xorg vs. xserver-xorg-video-nouveau

[Bob Proulx]

Gilbert Sullivan wrote:
> Brian wrote:
> > Sven Joachim wrote:
> >> Sven,
> >>  maintainer of the "borked" package
> > 
> > Seeing as you mention it - it is time to say 'thank you'.
> 
> + 1 to this.

+1 from me as well.  I am happily using the nouveau package and driver
on several machines.  It made using them as easy as apt-get install
when otherwise I would have been scrambling for a solution.

Thanks Sven!

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Re: Python

[Scott Ferguson]

Please only post using plain text.
Use the button marked plain text on the right hand side of the zohomail
compose window (just above the message body area).

On 01/02/12 08:24, cletusjenkins wrote:
> Hello, I am interested to learn how to program in Python. What debian
> packages would I need to start coding some basic cgi in apache? Thanks.
> 
Start with python(2.6), apache2, libapache2-mod-python, and
libapache2-mod-python-doc, after that is depends on what you want to do.

You should also give it a day or two and others will undoubtedly also
give some recommendations.

Read the fine documentation here as a start:-
http://www.modpython.org/

You'll find the following are excellent sources of documentation:-
apache.org
python.org
(they also have mailing lists)

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Re: Wireless connection not working

[Gustavo J Mata]

On 1/31/12, cletusjenkins  wrote:
>
>  On Tue, 31 Jan 2012 14:11:23 -0800 Gustavo J Mata  wrote 
>
>>This is the info for the card:
>>
>>Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG [Calexico2]
>>Network Connection (rev 05)
>>
>>I installed the ipw2200 driver.
>>
>
> Have you installed firmware-linux-nonfree package? Mine is also an intel
> chipset, but a different model. Mine wouldn't work without the non-free
> firmware.
>
>

I did install the non-free firmware. I also installed network manager
and its command line interface.

No dice :-(


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Re: Wireless connection not working

[Dougie Nisbet]

On 31/01/2012 22:36, Gustavo J Mata wrote:

On 1/31/12, cletusjenkins  wrote:

 On Tue, 31 Jan 2012 14:11:23 -0800 Gustavo J Mata  wrote 


This is the info for the card:

Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG [Calexico2]
Network Connection (rev 05)

I installed the ipw2200 driver.


Have you installed firmware-linux-nonfree package? Mine is also an intel
chipset, but a different model. Mine wouldn't work without the non-free
firmware.



I did install the non-free firmware. I also installed network manager
and its command line interface.

No dice :-(




I have debian installed on a Toshiba Equium which I think uses the same 
chipset. I had problems with the install but got it sorted out in the 
end. There often seem to be issues where networking works during 
installation but fails when the new system is booted without the 
installation CD.  I could have a look at the config and see if anything 
springs to mind.


I also recently installed debian on an Acer Aspire One 753 netbook. 
Again networking worked during the install, but failed on the newly 
booted system. I got it sorted after a bit of a websearch. Details here: 
http://www.bluecedar.org.uk/?p=233


Are you installing stable or testing?

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Re: Python

[Wayne Topa]

On 01/31/2012 04:24 PM, cletusjenkins wrote:

Hello, I am interested to learn how to program in Python. What debian
packages would I need to start coding some basic cgi in apache? Thanks.



There are 2 python book packages:
diveintopython  which covers Python 2
and
diveintopython3 which covers Python 3

Use apt-cache search to see there description

like this
apt-cache show diveintopython

HTH

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Re (5): /usr/lib/mutt/mailto-mutt

[peasthope]

From:   Brian 
Date:   Tue, 31 Jan 2012 10:30:55 +
> For your project you might want to know the mutt in testing and unstable
> handles mailto: differently from the one in stable. Bug #576313 is a
> relevant read.

Thanks Brian.  I should have found this bug report before wasting 
time otherwise.  Will shelve my efforts until the new mutt is in stable.

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Re: Wireless connection not working

[Gustavo J Mata]

On 1/31/12, Dougie Nisbet  wrote:
> On 31/01/2012 22:36, Gustavo J Mata wrote:
>> On 1/31/12, cletusjenkins  wrote:
>>>  On Tue, 31 Jan 2012 14:11:23 -0800 Gustavo J Mata  wrote 
>>>
 This is the info for the card:

 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG [Calexico2]
 Network Connection (rev 05)

 I installed the ipw2200 driver.

>>> Have you installed firmware-linux-nonfree package? Mine is also an intel
>>> chipset, but a different model. Mine wouldn't work without the non-free
>>> firmware.
>>>
>>>
>> I did install the non-free firmware. I also installed network manager
>> and its command line interface.
>>
>> No dice :-(
>>
>>
>
> I have debian installed on a Toshiba Equium which I think uses the same
> chipset. I had problems with the install but got it sorted out in the
> end. There often seem to be issues where networking works during
> installation but fails when the new system is booted without the
> installation CD.  I could have a look at the config and see if anything
> springs to mind.
>
> I also recently installed debian on an Acer Aspire One 753 netbook.
> Again networking worked during the install, but failed on the newly
> booted system. I got it sorted after a bit of a websearch. Details here:
> http://www.bluecedar.org.uk/?p=233
>
> Are you installing stable or testing?
>
> Dougie
>
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I'm installing stable. I got the following the command line interface
to network manager. Is it useful?

root@dell:/home/gjmata# cnetworkmanager -C Biblioteca
--wpa-pass=fv7olrsjstu3vpis
Entering mainloop
Getting secrets: /MyConnection/1
SECMAP {'802-11-wireless-security': {'pairwise': ['tkip', 'ccmp'],
'group': ['tkip', 'ccmp'], 'psk':
'6bf17ec3aad12956908cc03d4abb93709294bc33d70b4b2a78075be0e738a4d2',
'key-mgmt': 'wpa-psk'}}
Getting secrets: /MyConnection/1
SECMAP {'802-11-wireless-security': {'pairwise': ['tkip', 'ccmp'],
'group': ['tkip', 'ccmp'], 'psk':
'6bf17ec3aad12956908cc03d4abb93709294bc33d70b4b2a78075be0e738a4d2',
'key-mgmt': 'wpa-psk'}}
Getting secrets: /MyConnection/1
SECMAP {'802-11-wireless-security': {'pairwise': ['tkip', 'ccmp'],
'group': ['tkip', 'ccmp'], 'psk':
'6bf17ec3aad12956908cc03d4abb93709294bc33d70b4b2a78075be0e738a4d2',
'key-mgmt': 'wpa-psk'}}
Getting secrets: /MyConnection/1
SECMAP {'802-11-wireless-security': {'pairwise': ['tkip', 'ccmp'],
'group': ['tkip', 'ccmp'], 'psk':
'6bf17ec3aad12956908cc03d4abb93709294bc33d70b4b2a78075be0e738a4d2',
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Re: Capslock mystery - Recent phenomena concerning keyboard

[Harry Putnam]

Tony Baldwin  writes:

>> Even that doesn't really work, since numbers stay upper case to what
>> ever symbols are the upper case for each (sometimes). 
>
> Upper case numbers?

Read it again...


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Re: [Fwd: Re: enable i915 rc6 save 7 watt on kernel 3.2]

[lee]

Martin Steigerwald  writes:

> options i915 modeset=1 i915_enable_rc6=1 i915_enable_fbc=1 semaphores=1

Isn´t using frame buffer compression likely to lower the graphics
performance because of the compression overhead?

I´ve got a Pavilion DV7 with some integrated Intel card that uses the
i915 driver, and it´s an euphemism to say that the graphics performance
is pitifully pathetic compared to the Nvidia GTX470 I´m used to ...

However, this laptop also has a Radeon card built in --- only I can´t
get it to work. Apparently the laptop is MUX-less, so I don´t get any
output to the screen when switching to the discrete card.

There are instructions on [1] how to get the Radeon card to work with
the fglrx drivers. Unfortunately, an outdated version of the intel
drivers seems to be required:


"Regarding the xf86-video-intel package, it is important to use a
version <2.16, as was fortunately noted in the forum post [5] (by
bojojo2020). This is because the current version of ati-drivers, 11.12
doesn't seem to work with newer versions of xf86-video-intel. (I was
initially unsuccessful with 2.17, and in my opinion, this is perhaps the
only detail due to which someone would fail in getting fglrx
running.)"[1]


Debian Testing has version 2.17 of the xserver-xorg-video-intel package
and fglrx-glx in version 11-12-1. I´ve tried the fglrx drivers; they
complain about not finding a library when setting them up, and running
startx only produced a segmentation fault with them. Is there any way to
get the Radeon card to work in Debian Testing?


[1]: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-6936730.html


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Re: creating (thumbnail) images *of* (not for) web pages

[lee]

Claudius Hubig  writes:

> Hello lee,
>
> lee  wrote:
>>Hi,
>>
>>is there a Debian package with software that helps in creating
>>(thumbnail) images *of* (not for) web pages?
> 
> However, googling (you did google, didn’t you?) brought me there:

Yes, I did --- and I had found the page you´re pointing me to:

> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/125951/command-line-program-to-create-website-screenshots-on-linux

I didn´t try it for when the page you want to turn into an image doesn´t
fit onto the screen because the page is too long or too wide, your image
will show only the part of the webpage which happens to be displayed on
the screen rather than the whole page: It would be like taking a
screenshot, which I could do without the complication ...

However, I´ve found cutycap, and that seems to do the job nicely :)


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Re: Capslock mystery - Recent phenomena concerning keyboard

[Harry Putnam]

Bob Proulx  writes:

> By the way...  The IBM Model M keyboard is an example of one of the
> finest keyboards ever made.  Unicomp bought the rights to continue
> making that same keyboard.  By all reports they are excellent.

I agree.  I got this one on the strength of reviews and friends advice
when I grew tired of the sorry flexing, number loosing junk on the
market now.  

Its been in use steadily for several mnths... maybe closing in on a
year now and I really like it.  Plus in a pinch during pitched battles
with spouse, it makes an excellent self defense implement... it easily
deflects various plastic and glassware missiles... it even proved
effective against the proverbial skillet, but I'll admit it was only a
glancing blow, and it did leave a slight visible ding in the
underside.

There can be a small problem when doing defensive running and using it
like a shield.  Bad things can happen when you hit the end of the usb
cable. 


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Re: creating (thumbnail) images *of* (not for) web pages

[lee]

Camaleón  writes:

> On Sun, 29 Jan 2012 23:25:54 +, lee wrote:
>
>> is there a Debian package with software that helps in creating
>> (thumbnail) images *of* (not for) web pages? Like something that instead
>> of displaying a web page on screen as a web browser does creates an
>> image file that can be saved to disk (and then be resized to a
>> thumbnail)?
>
> "scrot"?

A screenshot won´t get the whole page into one image. Cutycap does :)

> You can also print the full page to PDF and then extract a snapshot from 
> it.

Good idea, I didn´t think of that!


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Re: creating (thumbnail) images *of* (not for) web pages

[lee]

godo  writes:

> On 01/30/2012 12:25 AM, lee wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> is there a Debian package with software that helps in creating
>> (thumbnail) images *of* (not for) web pages?
> 
> try cutycapt.

Thanks, I found it and tried it, works fine :)


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Re: Capslock mystery - Recent phenomena concerning keyboard

[Bob Proulx]

Harry Putnam wrote:
> Plus in a pinch during pitched battles with spouse, it makes an
> excellent self defense implement... it easily deflects various
> plastic and glassware missiles... it even proved effective against
> the proverbial skillet, but I'll admit it was only a glancing blow,
> and it did leave a slight visible ding in the underside.
> 
> There can be a small problem when doing defensive running and using it
> like a shield.  Bad things can happen when you hit the end of the usb
> cable. 

I know this is drifting off topic and I am sorry but I can't resist.
If you have seen it then this is old hat.  If you haven't seen it then
it is about time.

  Compiling
  http://xkcd.com/303/

Enjoy! :-)

Bob


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Re: Not getting mails in inbox

[lee]

Harshad Joshi  writes:

> I am not getting replies to mails i am sending on this list. i have to
> manually check or refer google to get answers..
>
> can someone look in this matter? 

Do you see the mail you sent to the list? (If gmail supresses mail you
are supposed to get, like someone mentioned, I won´t use it ...)

This is an interesting post because currently mails I´m sending to the
list seem not to get through. If they did get through, I would receive
them from the list. Has anyone received this message I sent:


From: lee 
Subject: tmpfs --- correct entries for /etc/fstab?
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 00:28:09 + (23 hours, 21 minutes, 58 seconds ago)


I can´t find this post in the list, nor any answers to it, on my side,
so I don´t know if it got through.


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Re: how to refrain only use certain number of processors

[lee]

lina  writes:

> I have a script like
>
> #!/bin/bash
>
> for i in {0..108}
> do
>
> some job will run for mins &
>
> done
>
> Here I used & for some kinda of parallel.
> but there is a problem,
>
> I wished at most it only run 8 jobs simultantly, no more than 8, once
> finished, a new job can continue,

If you can use a Makefile instead of your script to get the job done,
you could use make -j8 instead.


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Re: Python

[cletusjenkins]

Excellent, I'll check them out. Not to start a flame-war between python 2 and 3 
supporters, or even get too much into python-specifics on a debian list but 
should I go with version 2 or just jump into 3? Does it matter?

 On Tue, 31 Jan 2012 14:56:27 -0800 Wayne Topa  wrote  

>On 01/31/2012 04:24 PM, cletusjenkins wrote: 
>> Hello, I am interested to learn how to program in Python. What debian 
>> packages would I need to start coding some basic cgi in apache? Thanks. 
>> 
> 
>There are 2 python book packages: 
>diveintopython which covers Python 2 
>and 
>diveintopython3 which covers Python 3 
> 
>Use apt-cache search to see there description 
> 
>like this 
>apt-cache show diveintopython 
> 
>HTH 
> 
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Re: Capslock mystery - Recent phenomena concerning keyboard

[John Hasler]

Harry Putnam writes:
> There can be a small problem when doing defensive running and using
> [an IBM Model M keyboard] like a shield.  Bad things can happen when
> you hit the end of the usb cable.

And you wouldn't want to use it as an offensive weapon: too lethal.
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Re: VNC into a Debian Machine

[Mark Neyhart]

James Allsopp wrote:
> I really want to be able to use VNC to be able to view the full Gnome
> desktop on my laptop. I've been able to view a grey screen and a
> terminal, using vnc4server and tigervnc or vinagre, but what I'd like to
> be able to do is just view a whole screen as if I was actually there.
> 
If I understand you correctly, you wish to access what is showing on
your laptop screen.

I've had success with x11vnc from the package with the same name.
After connecting to a machine via ssh, you can use this command to
setup a VNC server which serves up the X session currently on the
display via port 5900.

x11vnc -display :0.0

This command as listed will run without any authentication at all, so
you will need to specify an appropriate authentication method.  Note
that when the remote viewer is closed, this command terminates itself.
 Setting up an ssh tunnel would also be advisable in order to encrypt
the traffic.


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Re: second display

[Florian Pougheon]

Hi,

to customise dual screen & resolution issue, you can try this utility : 
arandr


It's the easiest way for me to customize a dual screen.

Le 31/01/2012 12:24, Jude DaShiell a écrit :

Study boot parameters then you get to control that feature once you put
the correct boot parameters into your menu.list file.On Tue, 31 Jan 2012,
Pastor ALexander wrote:


I am lost on the site,
installing to my laptop the 42inch sharp tv screen comes up in 1024 instead of 
1360
pclinuxos and mint dont have this problem.
I like debian much better but this is irritating
everything else on debian i found better than on any other distro. all other 
problems have been solved by the exellent wiki



Jude





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Re: Capslock mystery - Recent phenomena concerning keyboard

[doug]

On 01/31/2012 06:54 PM, Harry Putnam wrote:

Bob Proulx  writes:


By the way...  The IBM Model M keyboard is an example of one of the
finest keyboards ever made.  Unicomp bought the rights to continue
making that same keyboard.  By all reports they are excellent.

I agree.  I got this one on the strength of reviews and friends advice
when I grew tired of the sorry flexing, number loosing junk on the
market now.

Its been in use steadily for several mnths... maybe closing in on a
year now and I really like it.

/snip/

I have several model M keyboards--two full size, in regular use, and one 
without the number pad, that I'm using now with a home-bound laptop. All 
of them were bought at computer flea-markets 10 or more years ago, where 
they were already used
product.  They will probably be working after I'm dead, if some 
numbskull doesn't throw them out for not having windows keys!


There is an outfit called "Clicky Keys"--you can find it on the 
net--that refurbs original model M's for sale.


They are kind of noisy for use in a business office, but at home I 
wouldn't trade them for anything!


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Re: Capslock mystery - Recent phenomena concerning keyboard

[lee]

Harry Putnam  writes:

> Keyboard is from `Unicomp' and weighs about 10 lbs.

I wish I could get some of those ...

> I've recently started having a problem where the capslock comes on
> (seemingly randomly) but not the led that indicates its on.

Did you check /etc/default/keyboard?


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