Re: Squeeze Backports kernel with nVidia driver package

[Ramon Hofer]

On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 22:16:04 +0100, didier gaumet wrote:

> Le Sat, 28 Jan 2012 10:20:58 + (UTC), Ramon Hofer
>  a écrit :
> 
> [...]
>> I have added "deb http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports squeeze-
>> backports main" to my /etc/apt/sources.list
> 
> "deb http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports squeeze- backports
> main non-free" would be better
> 
> [...]
>> But then still it won't let me install the nvidia-glx package from the
>> backports repos.
> [...]
> 
> because nvidia-glx is in the non-free section of the repos

Aha of course! Merci beaucoup :-)

I should have checked that. Sorry!


Best regards
Ramon


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Re: Squeeze Backports kernel with nVidia driver package

[Ramon Hofer]

On Sun, 29 Jan 2012 01:28:19 +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote:

> On Sb, 28 ian 12, 10:20:58, Ramon Hofer wrote:
>> 
>> If I get you right I should install linux-image-3.2.0-0.bpo.1-amd64?
>> But there are other packages too like linux-image-amd64 which installs
>> the extra package linux-image-3.1.0-0.bpo.1-amd64. Here are all the
>> possibilies I have:
> 
> Hmm, you must be running amd64, 3.1.0 is not available on i386. But
> anyway, if I understand correctly, it's too much effort to support more
> than one kernel version in backports, so it is likely to disappear soon.
> 
> For nvidia-glx you need to add non-free as Didier pointed out.

Yes, I have 4 GB of RAM and therefore chosen the AMD64 kernel.

Thank you for your help!


Best regards
Ramon


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Re: Gnome3 login failure

[Alan Chandler]

On 24/01/12 14:56, Richard wrote:

Hi

Out of the blue, when I try to login to the shell I get after a few second that 
dreaded something has
gone wrong message and to logout.
Is Gnome3 similar in behaviour to Gnome2 that removing the .gnome files will 
cause them to be recreated
on login ?
Or any other ideas ???
TIA


I started happening to me yesterday.  The first time it happened, it was 
NOT just after login.  I had been working a few hours when all of a 
sudden the message you mention popped up and I was logged out.  I logged 
in again and apart from having to restart stuff I was running I was 
working again.


This morning it happened just after login - but again I just logged in 
again and it worked.


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Re: Squeeze Backports kernel with nVidia driver package

[Andrei Popescu]

On Du, 29 ian 12, 09:37:36, Ramon Hofer wrote:
> > 
> > Hmm, you must be running amd64, 3.1.0 is not available on i386. But
> > anyway, if I understand correctly, it's too much effort to support more
> > than one kernel version in backports, so it is likely to disappear soon.
> > 
> > For nvidia-glx you need to add non-free as Didier pointed out.
> 
> Yes, I have 4 GB of RAM and therefore chosen the AMD64 kernel.

I meant arch not kernel:

$ uname -a
Linux think 3.2.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 #1 SMP Thu Jan 26 02:26:23 UTC 2012 x86_64 
GNU/Linux
$ dpkg --print-architecture
i386

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Using wheezy or testing in sources.list for security updates

[Colin]

Hi all,
After reading the security support on testing[1], I was thinking if I
would use wheezy at the moment on my sources.list instead of testing,
then I would all have the "updates" from testing plus the security
ones?
Or should I just use 'deb http://security.debian.org testing/updates
main contrib non-free' ?

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[1] 
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Re: Using wheezy or testing in sources.list for security updates

[Sven Joachim]

On 2012-01-29 11:51 +0100, Colin wrote:

> After reading the security support on testing[1], I was thinking if I
> would use wheezy at the moment on my sources.list instead of testing,
> then I would all have the "updates" from testing plus the security
> ones?

No.  Also, wheezy and testing are currently _identical_.

> Or should I just use 'deb http://security.debian.org testing/updates
> main contrib non-free' ?

This depends on what you intend to do when wheezy becomes stable.  Do
you want to continue to use testing forever, or do you want to have a
system that remains basically unchanged for a long time?  If the latter,
use "wheezy" instead of "testing".

Sven


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Re: Squeeze Backports kernel with nVidia driver package

[Ramon Hofer]

On Sun, 29 Jan 2012 11:58:22 +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote:

> On Du, 29 ian 12, 09:37:36, Ramon Hofer wrote:
>> > 
>> > Hmm, you must be running amd64, 3.1.0 is not available on i386. But
>> > anyway, if I understand correctly, it's too much effort to support
>> > more than one kernel version in backports, so it is likely to
>> > disappear soon.
>> > 
>> > For nvidia-glx you need to add non-free as Didier pointed out.
>> 
>> Yes, I have 4 GB of RAM and therefore chosen the AMD64 kernel.
> 
> I meant arch not kernel:
> 
> $ uname -a
> Linux think 3.2.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 #1 SMP Thu Jan 26 02:26:23 UTC 2012
> x86_64 GNU/Linux $ dpkg --print-architecture
> i386

Sorry, I don't know.
Here's what I got:

$ uname -a
Linux hoferr-htpc 3.1.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 #1 SMP Mon Jan 23 08:42:50 UTC 2012 
x86_64 GNU/Linux

$ dpkg --print-architecture
amd64


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lcdproc missing driver imonlcd in squeeze

[Ramon Hofer]

Hi all

I'm trying to configure a Soundgraph 15c2:0038 display.
In Ubuntu which I had running before on that PC it was very easy to get 
the display working: Install lcdproc and change the driver in /etc/
LCDd.conf to imonlcd.
Unfortunately this isn't possible in squeeze because this driver isn't 
available.

Therefore I'd like to know if it's possible to get that driver into the 
backports repos?


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Re: Gnome3 login failure

[richard]

On Sun, 29 Jan 2012 07:26:02 +
Alan Chandler  wrote:

> On 24/01/12 14:56, Richard wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > Out of the blue, when I try to login to the shell I get after a few second
> > that dreaded something has gone wrong message and to logout.
> > Is Gnome3 similar in behaviour to Gnome2 that removing the .gnome files
> > will cause them to be recreated on login ?
> > Or any other ideas ???
> > TIA
> 
> I started happening to me yesterday.  The first time it happened, it was 
> NOT just after login.  I had been working a few hours when all of a 
> sudden the message you mention popped up and I was logged out.  I logged 
> in again and apart from having to restart stuff I was running I was 
> working again.
> 
> This morning it happened just after login - but again I just logged in 
> again and it worked.
> 
> Running Debian SID
> 

Hi Alan
 I've seen this a few times on both the  machines one running wheezy/sid,
 probably more SID and the laptop running FC16
I think this is a result of some cumulative process, what does make it worse is
powering down a machine is suspend mode. Hence the reason I asked recently
about suspend/shutdown.
I suspect what your seeing is a prelude to getting the same message but not
being able to login.
As this is on 2 flavours of linux it looks like the finger of blame points at
gnome, unless of course someone knows differently.

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RE:Please assist.

[BETA BOOKSHOP & STATIONERS BETA BOOKSHOP]

I have a problem with my printer(Gestetner Dsm 718) installation.I have
tried severally without and success.I have gone to
Administration>Printing>Locahost and tried to add a new printer from USB
serial but it has refused.I have felt defeat and want you to help in
retaining my hope.
How can I Install this.Since I have even tried it using a  Software Disk
but still it refuses.
*Kind Regards,
Kagiri Daniel.*

Re: Accented Characters - How to type from standard keyboard?

[Curt]

On 2012-01-28, Michael Lange  wrote:
>
>> Ripit created a directory name which starts with an accented character.
>> I want to rename the directory.  With xlsfonts, xfontsel and xfd I have
>> found a font set which contains the character but have not figured out
>> how to use it from a standard US keyboard.  Is there an easy way to do
>> this?
>> 
>
> You can set up a compose key; here I have added
>
> Option "XkbOptions" "compose:Super_R"
>
> to the Keyboard section in /etc/X11/xorg.conf and now I can use the right

Or he could just right-click on the directory in just about any file
browser known to man and rename it. Or simply use globbing (is that the
correct term?):

édirectory

mv *directory adirectory

Maybe the problem space is ill-defined, but if it is what it appears to
be, this whole thread seems silly in a very usenetty way, i.e., a
senseless and brutal buggery of a fictional gnat.

Or am I missing something?


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[OT] Re: Accented Characters - How to type from standard keyboard?

[Michael Lange]

Thus spoketh Curt  
unto us on Sun, 29 Jan 2012 13:32:25 + (UTC):

> 
> édirectory
> 
> mv *directory adirectory
> 
> Maybe the problem space is ill-defined, but if it is what it appears to
> be, this whole thread seems silly in a very usenetty way, i.e., a
> senseless and brutal buggery of a fictional gnat.
> 
> Or am I missing something?

Maybe, sort of ;)

Now, as far as I could see, the question was "Accented Characters - How
to type from standard keyboard?" , so what's wrong with trying to answer
what appears to be a perfectly legal question ?

BTW, your own suggestion has already been mentioned before, so it seems
to me that all the news you contribute here is to bark at people,
which doesn't seem to help much either.

Regards

Michael


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Re: Please assist.

[Johan Grönqvist]

2012-01-29 13:29, BETA BOOKSHOP & STATIONERS BETA BOOKSHOP skrev:

I have a problem with my printer(Gestetner Dsm 718) installation.I have
tried severally without and success.I have gone to
Administration>Printing>Locahost and tried to add a new printer from USB
serial but it has refused.I have felt defeat and want you to help in
retaining my hope.


(I guess from the above description that you are using gnome as your 
user interface on debian stable (version 6.something).)



I have been refused adding a printer, and the reason was that I was not 
a member of the lpadmin group.


Apart from that I have no advice, other than that if you describe what 
you mean by "I was refused" in more detail ("What was the exact eror 
message?", is the question), someone may recognize it and help you.


Also, I have (sometimes) had more luck using the webinterface, which you 
should find if you point your browser to .



/ johan



How can I Install this.Since I have even tried it using a  Software
Disk  but still it refuses.
*Kind Regards,
Kagiri Daniel.*




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Re: Using wheezy or testing in sources.list for security updates

[Colin]

On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Sven Joachim  wrote:
> On 2012-01-29 11:51 +0100, Colin wrote:
> This depends on what you intend to do when wheezy becomes stable.  Do
> you want to continue to use testing forever, or do you want to have a
> system that remains basically unchanged for a long time?  If the latter,
> use "wheezy" instead of "testing".
>
> Sven

I see.
I want to stay with testing in the long term but would prefer not to
await for security updates.
Right now security updates are treated as a normal update, that is a
normal package transition from unstable to testing, correct?

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Re: [OT] Re: Accented Characters - How to type from standard keyboard?

[Curt]

On 2012-01-29, Michael Lange  wrote:
>
> Now, as far as I could see, the question was "Accented Characters - How
> to type from standard keyboard?" , so what's wrong with trying to answer
> what appears to be a perfectly legal question ?

Well, that's what the subject says (I never rely on those too much)
but right off the bat in the body of the message (where the
real semantic meat and potatoes of an article reside), it says:

 "Ripit created a directory name which starts with an accented character.
 I want to rename the directory"

> BTW, your own suggestion has already been mentioned before, so it seems

Before what?  Before the camel got over here with all the messages on its
back in a leather pouch, after crossing the desert, and I opened the
pouch and started reading them one by one?


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Re: debian losing usb detection after guest OS sees a USB device in virtualbox

[H.S.]

On 29/01/12 01:14 AM, Bob Proulx wrote:
> Scott Ferguson wrote:
>> H.S. wrote:
>>> So, looks like I need to somehow make network manager not mess with
>>> Tomtom when it is plugged in.
>>
>> I would be useful for others if you post your success at getting NM to
>> ignore a device here.
> 
> Agreed!
> 
> Previously:
 Jan 28 22:21:59 red NetworkManager[2188]:SCPlugin-Ifupdown: device 
 added (path: 
 /sys/devices/pci:00/:00:16.2/usb3/3-1/3-1:1.0/net/usb0, iface: 
 usb0): no ifupdown configuration found.
 Jan 28 22:21:59 red NetworkManager[2188]:  (usb0): now managed
> 
> This leads me to believe the device name being assigned to the device
> is "usb0".  Try this in /etc/network/interfaces:
> 
>   iface usb0 inet manual
> 
> That line should tell ifupdown that the configuration is manual.  And
> since it is a configuration for ifupdown that tells NetworkManager to
> leave it alone.  I am pretty sure that will work.

That did help a little. Inserted that line in 'interfaces' file,
restarted networking and network-manager and now Tomtom is not tried as
a network device.

However, it is still grayed out in virtualbox and the VM doesn't see it
as attached at all. Same behavior whether I have a filter for it in VB's
USB devices filters section.

BTW, I have, since yesterday, virtualization enabled on my machine (amd
machine, it is called AMD-V in it?). Is this necessary?






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Re: Using wheezy or testing in sources.list for security updates

[Christofer C. Bell]

On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 8:27 AM, Colin  wrote:

> On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Sven Joachim  wrote:
> > On 2012-01-29 11:51 +0100, Colin wrote:
> > This depends on what you intend to do when wheezy becomes stable.  Do
> > you want to continue to use testing forever, or do you want to have a
> > system that remains basically unchanged for a long time?  If the latter,
> > use "wheezy" instead of "testing".
> >
> > Sven
>
> I see.
> I want to stay with testing in the long term but would prefer not to
> await for security updates.
> Right now security updates are treated as a normal update, that is a
> normal package transition from unstable to testing, correct?
>

Colin,

Perhaps this will explain it better.  This is taken from ftp.us.debian.org:

lrwxrwxrwx1 21285212856 Feb  5  2011 testing -> wheezy
lrwxrwxrwx1 2128521285   23 Feb  5  2011
testing-proposed-updates -> wheezy-proposed-updates
drwxr-sr-x5 2128521285   28 Jan 29  2012 wheezy
drwxr-sr-x5 2128521285   21 Jan 29  2012
wheezy-proposed-updates

There is no difference, at all, between Wheezy and Testing -- They are the
same physical thing on the Debian repository server's hard disk.  Testing
is nothing more than a symlink to Wheezy. When updates go into Testing,
they're actually being put into a directory named Wheezy.

To answer your other question, security updates for Testing move through
from Unstable like any other update except for being fast tracked:

http://www.debian.org/security/faq#testing

Does that help at all? :-)

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Re: Using wheezy or testing in sources.list for security updates

[Colin]

On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 3:07 PM, Christofer C. Bell
 wrote:
> To answer your other question, security updates for Testing move through
> from Unstable like any other update except for being fast tracked:

Right.
Then I could check debian-testing-security-announce@ to check which
ones were fast tracked?
Although the last post on that list is from Feb 2011 acording to the
archives [1].

> Does that help at all? :-)

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Re: Kernel Compiling from scratch

[Syed Hasan Atizaz]

thanks everyone :)

On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 9:30 PM, Stephen Powell  wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 14:30:39 -0500 (EST), Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>>
>> I usually run
>>
>> make-kpkg clean
>> make-kpkg --rootcmd fakeroot --initrd kernel-image kernel-headers
>>
>> headers are often needed.
>
> I only build a headers package if I really need one.  Most of the
> time I don't.  That is one of the reasons I use make-kpkg rather
> than "make deb-pkg".  With "make deb-pkg", I always get a headers
> package, whether I need one or not.  But if I'm using "make-kpkg"
> and I really do need a headers package, I find that I need to run
> the entire make-kpkg command under fakeroot, like this:
>
>   $ fakeroot make-kpkg --append-to-version xxx --revision xxx \
>   > --initrd kernel_image kernel_headers
>
> I haven't been able to get the kernel_headers target to work with
> the --rootcmd fakeroot option.  (Obviously, the "xxx" strings in the
> above template command are not meant to be typed literally.)
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Software-upgrades not installable due to APT-misconfiguration ?

[Andreas Glaeser]

andreas@osrdii:~$ sudo aptitude update
.
.
.
Fetched 4,906 kB in 14s (339
kB/s) 
Current status: 4 updates [+1], 9821 new [+12].
andreas@osrdii:~$ sudo aptitude upgrade
Resolving dependencies...
The following packages will be upgraded:
  libicu44 
1 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded.
Need to get 7,060 kB of archives. After unpacking 0 B will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n/?] 
Get:1 http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates/main libicu44 amd64 4.4.1-8 
[7,060 kB]
Fetched 7,060 kB in 6s (1,056
kB/s) Reading changelogs... Done
(Reading database ... 171379 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace libicu44 4.4.1-7 (using .../libicu44_4.4.1-8_amd64.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement libicu44 ...
Setting up libicu44 (4.4.1-8) ...
 
Current status: 3 updates [-1].
andreas@osrdii:~$ sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  libtirpc1{a} rpcbind{ab} 
The following packages will be upgraded:
  nfs-common xserver-xephyr{b} xserver-xorg-core{b} 
3 packages upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 3,076 kB of archives. After unpacking 1,278 kB will be freed.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  xserver-xorg-video-apm: Depends: xorg-video-abi-6.0 which is a virtual 
package.
  xserver-xorg-video-ark: Depends: xorg-video-abi-6.0 which is a virtual 
package.
  xserver-xorg-video-ati: Depends: xorg-video-abi-6.0 which is a virtual 
package.
  xserver-xorg-video-openchrome: Depends: xorg-video-abi-6.0 which is a virtual 
package.
  xserver-xorg-video-s3virge: Depends: xorg-video-abi-6.0 which is a virtual 
package.
  xserver-xorg-video-mga: Depends: xorg-video-abi-6.0 which is a virtual 
package.
  xserver-xorg-video-chips: Depends: xorg-video-abi-6.0 which is a virtual 
package.
  xserver-xorg-core: Depends: libxfont1 (>= 1:1.4.2) but 1:1.4.1-3 is installed.
 Breaks: xserver-xorg-input-7 which is a virtual package.
 Breaks: xserver-xorg-video-6 which is a virtual package.
  xserver-xorg-video-mach64: Depends: xorg-video-abi-6.0 which is a virtual 
package.
  xserver-xorg-video-trident: Depends: xorg-video-abi-6.0 which is a virtual 
package.
  xserver-xorg-video-sis: Depends: xorg-video-abi-6.0 which is a virtual 
package.
  xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion: Depends: xorg-video-abi-6.0 which is a 
virtual
package. xserver-xorg-video-savage: Depends: xorg-video-abi-6.0 which is a 
virtual
package. xserver-xorg-video-tdfx: Depends: xorg-video-abi-6.0 which is a 
virtual package.
  xserver-xorg-video-intel: Depends: xorg-video-abi-6.0 which is a virtual 
package.
  xserver-xorg-video-vmware: Depends: xorg-video-abi-6.0 which is a virtual 
package.
  xserver-xorg-video-r128: Depends: xorg-video-abi-6.0 which is a virtual 
package.
  xserver-xorg-input-evdev: Depends: xorg-input-abi-7.0 which is a virtual 
package.
  xserver-xorg-video-vesa: Depends: xorg-video-abi-6.0 which is a virtual 
package.
  xserver-xorg-video-s3: Depends: xorg-video-abi-6.0 which is a virtual package.
  xserver-xorg-video-nv: Depends: xorg-video-abi-6.0 which is a virtual package.
  xserver-xorg-video-voodoo: Depends: xorg-video-abi-6.0 which is a virtual 
package.
  xserver-xorg-video-fbdev: Depends: xorg-video-abi-6.0 which is a virtual 
package.
  xserver-xorg-video-nouveau: Depends: xorg-video-abi-6.0 which is a virtual 
package.
  xserver-xorg-video-neomagic: Depends: xorg-video-abi-6.0 which is a virtual 
package.
  xserver-xephyr: Depends: libxfont1 (>= 1:1.4.2) but 1:1.4.1-3 is installed.
  rpcbind: Conflicts: portmap but 6.0.0-2 is installed.
  xserver-xorg-video-sisusb: Depends: xorg-video-abi-6.0 which is a virtual 
package.
  xserver-xorg-video-tseng: Depends: xorg-video-abi-6.0 which is a virtual 
package.
  xserver-xorg-video-radeon: Depends: xorg-video-abi-6.0 which is a virtual 
package.
  xserver-xorg-video-cirrus: Depends: xorg-video-abi-6.0 which is a virtual 
package.
  xserver-xorg-input-synaptics: Depends: xorg-input-abi-7.0 which is a virtual 
package.
  xserver-xorg-video-rendition: Depends: xorg-video-abi-6.0 which is a virtual 
package.
  xserver-xorg-video-i128: Depends: xorg-video-abi-6.0 which is a virtual 
package.
The following actions will resolve these dependencies:

  Remove the following packages:   
1)  nfs-common 
2)  xorg   
3)  xserver-xephyr 
4)  xserver-xorg   
5)  xserver-xorg-core  
6)  xserver-xorg-input-all 
7)  xserver-xorg-input-evdev   
8)  xserver-xorg-input-synaptics   
9)  xserver-xorg-input-wacom   
10) xserver-xorg-video-all 

Re: Network issues with lan and wifi

[Brian]

On Sat 28 Jan 2012 at 17:47:44 -0700, Bob Proulx wrote:

> At this point in history the debian-installer only supports WEP wifi
> networking and does not support WPA/WPA2.  Yet.  All things happen
> eventually.  So if you were trying to connect to an open wifi access
> point it should have been fine.  If you were trying to connect to an
> access point with WEP it should have been possible, if somewhat
> tedious to configure.  But if you were trying to connect to a WPA/WPA2
> access point you would have been blocked by the fact that there isn't
> code in the program to do it.

The upcoming d-i for Wheezy has progressed very well towards installing
over WiFi with a WPA/WPA2 access point. Anyone who has no other means of
connecting to a network (or just finds it more convenient) is likely to
find it useful. A daily businesscard iso will also install Squeeze,
although a downside is /e/n/i has to be rejigged to use wpa_supplicant
instead of wireless-tools.

> much better than NetworkManager.  The third option is to do it the
> long manual way using your own full configuration.

Getting the wpasupplicant package and adding four lines to /e/n/i is not
my idea of a lengthy process. :)

> For a mobile device I recommend wicd.  For a fixed device that uses
> wifi, if I had one of those of my own then I would use a fixed,
> manually specified wpa_supplicant configuration.

A competently set up wpa_supplicant performs quite decently all by
itself in a roaming context, Add on wpagui for a clickety-click GUI.


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Converting to btrfs

[Christian Dysthe]

Hi,

I have an older laptop running Sid I like to play around with. I would 
like to check out the new btrfs file system and know you can easily convert
from  ext4 to btrfs. The disk is partitioned with a small /boot partition, a
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Re: Using wheezy or testing in sources.list for security updates

[Paul E Condon]

On 20120129_122817, Sven Joachim wrote:
> On 2012-01-29 11:51 +0100, Colin wrote:
> 
> > After reading the security support on testing[1], I was thinking if I
> > would use wheezy at the moment on my sources.list instead of testing,
> > then I would all have the "updates" from testing plus the security
> > ones?
> 
> No.  Also, wheezy and testing are currently _identical_.
> 
> > Or should I just use 'deb http://security.debian.org testing/updates
> > main contrib non-free' ?
> 
> This depends on what you intend to do when wheezy becomes stable.  Do
> you want to continue to use testing forever, or do you want to have a
> system that remains basically unchanged for a long time?  If the latter,
> use "wheezy" instead of "testing".
> 
> Sven

OP wouldn't have asked the question unless he were somewhat worried
that each choice had consequences, which, for him, were unknown and
therefore unintended. Because he has asked the question, I think OP
is, like me, a person who wants a system that basically works, but
does get new software as it is reasonably available. For me, and him,
I am fearful of what happens to testing immediately after a release.

Immediately after an official release, all the packages that were held
back by the pre-release freeze will flood into 'testing,' but not into
'wheezy.' For a short while 'testing' will become rather unstable,
like 'sid.' If one is fearful of that prospect, use "wheezy' and
switch to 'testing' later, at a time of ones own choosing, after the
new testing has stabilized somewhat and when one has time to deal with
testing's little annoyances (as opposed to its rare spasms of big
annoyance). By the time that the successor to wheezy has reached this
stage, its name will probably have been announced, so, if one likes
this plan, one might as well switch to that next name. 

So one can be running testing, *almost* always, but never using the
word, testing, and never being subject to the post release spasm.

There are, I suppose, other Debian users who run testing and wait
impatiently for the short episodes of excitement that I call spasms.
I respect them, but I am not one of them.

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getting source packages with synaptic

[Tony van der Hoff]

Hi,

Running squeeze, when I want a source package, I do apt-get source 
, which works well enough.


However, I'm really a pointy-clicky type, and would prefer to use 
synaptic for this.


Much googling on the subject suggests that it might not be possible to 
do that. Anyone know whether that's true, if so, why, and if not how can 
I do it?


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Re: Using wheezy or testing in ,,, OT question.

[Paul E Condon]

On 20120129_090739, Christofer C. Bell wrote:

... snip
> 
> There is no difference, at all, between Wheezy and Testing -- They are the
> same physical thing on the Debian repository server's hard disk.  Testing
> is nothing more than a symlink to Wheezy. When updates go into Testing,
---  ^
I have always been confused about the symlink. Once upon a time, I was
convinced that each release name, like Wheezy, was a symlink to testing and
doing a release involved moving all the files into the directory for stable
and switching the Wheezy symlink to point to stable. This is also what
the Debian article in Wikipedia seems to say. But ... having testing be
the symlnk is, to my mind, a much more reasonable way to implement the
package database and your statement may well be the correct, up-to-date
description of how things are done, Do you know, from observation of the
internals of Debian that it is the way you say. I think there is documentation
still available on the web that is confusing on this issue. IMHO, it should
be the way you say, but Wikipedia says otherwise, and should be corrected.

> they're actually being put into a directory named Wheezy.
^^
> 

Unfortunately, Debian lives in a real world replete with uninformed
opinion. I'm hoping that you can offer some assurance that your
statement is fact, because I really like what you say. What can you
say to reassure me?

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Re: Using wheezy or testing in sources.list f ... sorry for the noise

[Paul E Condon]

On 20120129_090739, Christofer C. Bell wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 8:27 AM, Colin  wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Sven Joachim  wrote:
> > > On 2012-01-29 11:51 +0100, Colin wrote:
> > > This depends on what you intend to do when wheezy becomes stable.  Do
> > > you want to continue to use testing forever, or do you want to have a
> > > system that remains basically unchanged for a long time?  If the latter,
> > > use "wheezy" instead of "testing".
> > >
> > > Sven
> >
> > I see.
> > I want to stay with testing in the long term but would prefer not to
> > await for security updates.
> > Right now security updates are treated as a normal update, that is a
> > normal package transition from unstable to testing, correct?
> >
> 
> Colin,
> 
> Perhaps this will explain it better.  This is taken from ftp.us.debian.org:
> 
> lrwxrwxrwx1 21285212856 Feb  5  2011 testing -> wheezy
> lrwxrwxrwx1 2128521285   23 Feb  5  2011
> testing-proposed-updates -> wheezy-proposed-updates
> drwxr-sr-x5 2128521285   28 Jan 29  2012 wheezy
> drwxr-sr-x5 2128521285   21 Jan 29  2012
> wheezy-proposed-updates
> 

I am convinced. I should read with better comprehension. Sorry.

> There is no difference, at all, between Wheezy and Testing -- They are the
> same physical thing on the Debian repository server's hard disk.  Testing
> is nothing more than a symlink to Wheezy. When updates go into Testing,
> they're actually being put into a directory named Wheezy.
> 
> To answer your other question, security updates for Testing move through
> from Unstable like any other update except for being fast tracked:
> 
> http://www.debian.org/security/faq#testing
> 
> Does that help at all? :-)
> 
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Re: Using wheezy or testing in sources.list for security updates

[Colin]

On 1/29/12, Paul E Condon  wrote:
> OP wouldn't have asked the question unless he were somewhat worried
> that each choice had consequences, which, for him, were unknown and
> therefore unintended. Because he has asked the question, I think OP
> is, like me, a person who wants a system that basically works, but
> does get new software as it is reasonably available. For me, and him,
> I am fearful of what happens to testing immediately after a release.

Yes, I run testing because of the 'new software' but still sometimes
there are security issues, like in the kernel or in Xorg recently so
the package takes some time from unstable to testing.

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pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org seems to be down

[Maarten]

Hi all,

I've been trying to install Debian on my OpenMoko Neo Freerunner. There's a
neat script for doing this, and it resides on pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org.
Thing is, it's down.

How can I notify the server owner / maintainer? I have no idea who it might
be to start with.


grtz,

Maarten

P.S: Plz include my mail address in the reply, I am not subscribed to the
list.

Re: pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org seems to be down

[Thilo Six]

Maarten wrote the following on 29.01.2012 21:38

> Hi all,
> 
> I've been trying to install Debian on my OpenMoko Neo Freerunner. There's a
> neat script for doing this, and it resides on pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org.
> Thing is, it's down.
> 
> How can I notify the server owner / maintainer? I have no idea who it might
> be to start with.

http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.devel.announce/1648

> 
> 
> grtz,
> 
> Maarten
> 
> P.S: Plz include my mail address in the reply, I am not subscribed to the
> list.
> 


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Gpm Eats the Disk

[David Baron]

This occurs randomly for no seeming reason for USB mice. It will definitely 
occur if the rodent gets unplugged or at random communications difficulties on 
wireless mice. It can be caused by other USB devices connected or operating:

Gpm starts spewing error messages  syslog and daemon.log grow and grow quickly 
filling the /var filesystem's partition. I mean 10's of gigabytes. The system 
still works but is now crippled, anything really needing /var like mail is 
borked. So is ext3 journaling.

If one notices it in time, one can kill gpm and delete the log files. If it is 
not already too late. Then delete the logs and reboot.

This is a long-standing problem. File a bug against gpm, syslog daemon, ...?
Any fix or preventative work-around?


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Re: Using wheezy or testing in sources.list for security updates

[Andrei Popescu]

On Du, 29 ian 12, 15:17:06, Colin wrote:
> 
> Right.
> Then I could check debian-testing-security-announce@ to check which
> ones were fast tracked?
> Although the last post on that list is from Feb 2011 acording to the
> archives [1].

Debian Testing Security Advisories are used only when the update goes 
via the testing-proposed-updates archive (which happens only during the 
freeze).

You have much better chances to monitor this by reading the regular 
security announcements and corelate with debian-release (where the 
fast-tracking happens).

Hope this helps,
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Re: Software-upgrades not installable due to APT-misconfiguration ?

[Andrei Popescu]

On Du, 29 ian 12, 18:24:56, Andreas Glaeser wrote:
> andreas@osrdii:~$ sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
> The following NEW packages will be installed:
>   libtirpc1{a} rpcbind{ab} 
> The following packages will be upgraded:
>   nfs-common xserver-xephyr{b} xserver-xorg-core{b} 
> 3 packages upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
...
> Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?] q
> Abandoning all efforts to resolve these dependencies.
> Abort.
> andreas@osrdii:~$ cat /etc/apt/preferences
> Package: *
> Pin: release a=lenny-backports
> Pin-Priority: 200

lenny-backports...
 
> Package: *
> Pin: release n=wheezy
> Pin-Priority: 50

...and wheezy? This asks for trouble :)

Please post the output of 'apt-cache policy'.

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Re: getting source packages with synaptic

[Andrei Popescu]

On Du, 29 ian 12, 18:55:00, Tony van der Hoff wrote:
> 
> Much googling on the subject suggests that it might not be possible
> to do that. Anyone know whether that's true, if so, why, and if not
> how can I do it?

Probably nobody bothered to implement the feature since people hacking 
on source code usually don't mind using the command line ;)

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[peasthope]

Folk,

Given a current Squeeze with Iceweasel and mutt.  Suppose Iceweasel 
displays a page with a mailto link.  To illustrate, each archived 
message in http://lists.debian.org/ has a "Reply to:" heading followed 
by three mailto links.  A click on the link should invoke mutt by 
operation of /usr/lib/mutt/mailto-mutt.  A terminal viewer should 
open and display the message template.

At least one reader of debian-user has reported this to work.  Yet 
the terminal doesn't open here and there is nothing relevant in 
/var/log/{syslog,mail.*}.

Does this work in other Squeeze installations?  Ideas?  Suggestions?

Thanks, ... Peter E.

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creating (thumbnail) images *of* (not for) web pages

[lee]

Hi,

is there a Debian package with software that helps in creating
(thumbnail) images *of* (not for) web pages? Like something that instead
of displaying a web page on screen as a web browser does creates an
image file that can be saved to disk (and then be resized to a
thumbnail)?

Maybe there´s a web browser that has this functionality already built
in?


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Re: Using wheezy or testing in ,,, OT question.

[Christofer C. Bell]

On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Paul E Condon wrote:

> On 20120129_090739, Christofer C. Bell wrote:
>
> > they're actually being put into a directory named Wheezy.
> ^^
> >
>
> Unfortunately, Debian lives in a real world replete with uninformed
> opinion. I'm hoping that you can offer some assurance that your
> statement is fact, because I really like what you say. What can you
> say to reassure me?


Paul, it's shown in my original message:

lrwxrwxrwx1 21285212856 Feb  5  2011 testing -> wheezy
lrwxrwxrwx1 2128521285   23 Feb  5  2011
testing-proposed-updates -> wheezy-proposed-updates
drwxr-sr-x5 2128521285   28 Jan 29  2012 wheezy
drwxr-sr-x5 2128521285   21 Jan 29  2012
wheezy-proposed-updates

Take a look at the first character in each line, that's the equivalent to
"ls -l" output.  The "testing" directory starts with an "l", indicating a
symlink.  The listing shows it, too "testing -> wheezy".  The same for the
testing-proposed-updates directory.  If you look further down, the wheezy
and wheezy-proposed-updates directories start with a "d" indicating an
actual directory.

I hope this clears it up!

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Re: Using wheezy or testing in ,,, OT question.

[Christofer C. Bell]

On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 6:02 PM, Christofer C. Bell <
christofer.c.b...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Paul E Condon 
> wrote:
>
>> On 20120129_090739, Christofer C. Bell wrote:
>>
>> > they're actually being put into a directory named Wheezy.
>> ^^
>> >
>>
>> Unfortunately, Debian lives in a real world replete with uninformed
>> opinion. I'm hoping that you can offer some assurance that your
>> statement is fact, because I really like what you say. What can you
>> say to reassure me?
>>
>
> Paul, it's shown in my original message:
>
> lrwxrwxrwx1 21285212856 Feb  5  2011 testing -> wheezy
> lrwxrwxrwx1 2128521285   23 Feb  5  2011
> testing-proposed-updates -> wheezy-proposed-updates
> drwxr-sr-x5 2128521285   28 Jan 29  2012 wheezy
> drwxr-sr-x5 2128521285   21 Jan 29  2012
> wheezy-proposed-updates
>
> Take a look at the first character in each line, that's the equivalent to
> "ls -l" output.  The "testing" directory starts with an "l", indicating a
> symlink.  The listing shows it, too "testing -> wheezy".  The same for the
> testing-proposed-updates directory.  If you look further down, the wheezy
> and wheezy-proposed-updates directories start with a "d" indicating an
> actual directory.
>
> I hope this clears it up!
>


To be even more clear, here is the actual output of "ls -l" using ncftp,
connected to ftp.us.debian.org, in the /debian/dists directory:

ncftp /debian/dists > ls -l
lrwxrwxrwx1 21285212855 Oct  1 10:25 Debian5.0.9 ->
lenny
lrwxrwxrwx1 21285212857 Jan 28 10:33 Debian6.0.4 ->
squeeze
drwxrwsr-x5 2128521285   22 Jan 29  2012 experimental
drwxrwsr-x5 2128521285   22 Oct  8 10:29 lenny
drwxrwsr-x5 2128521285 2191 Jan 29  2012
lenny-proposed-updates
lrwxrwxrwx1 21285212855 Feb 14  2009 oldstable -> lenny
lrwxrwxrwx1 2128521285   22 Feb 14  2009
oldstable-proposed-updates -> lenny-proposed-updates
lrwxrwxrwx1 2128521285   24 Feb  5  2011 proposed-updates
-> squeeze-proposed-updates
lrwxrwxrwx1 2128521285   12 Aug  4  2008 rc-buggy ->
experimental
-rw-rw-r--1 2128521285  635 Jan 28 10:32 README
drwxr-sr-x5 2128521285   22 Jan 29  2012 sid
drwxr-sr-x5 2128521285   21 Jan 28 11:30 squeeze
drwxr-sr-x5 2128521285 4010 Jan 29  2012
squeeze-proposed-updates
drwxr-sr-x5 2128521285   19 Jan 29  2012 squeeze-updates
lrwxrwxrwx1 21285212857 Feb 14  2009 stable -> squeeze
lrwxrwxrwx1 2128521285   24 Feb 14  2009
stable-proposed-updates -> squeeze-proposed-updates
lrwxrwxrwx1 2128521285   15 Feb  5  2011 stable-updates ->
squeeze-updates
lrwxrwxrwx1 21285212856 Feb  5  2011 testing -> wheezy
lrwxrwxrwx1 2128521285   23 Feb  5  2011
testing-proposed-updates -> wheezy-proposed-updates
lrwxrwxrwx1 21285212853 Nov 10  2007 unstable -> sid
drwxr-sr-x5 2128521285   26 Jan 29  2012 wheezy
drwxr-sr-x5 2128521285   21 Jan 29  2012
wheezy-proposed-updates
ncftp /debian/dists >

Anything starting with a "d" is a directory, "l" is a symlink (with the
link target indicated at the end of the line), and "-" is a regular file.
 I trimmed what I sent earlier to focus only on testing and wheezy and
they're relationship with each other.  The full listing is a bit more
complex. :-)

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Re: Using wheezy or testing in sources.list f ... sorry for the noise

[Christofer C. Bell]

On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 1:38 PM, Paul E Condon wrote:

> On 20120129_090739, Christofer C. Bell wrote:
> >
> > Colin,
> >
> > Perhaps this will explain it better.  This is taken from
> ftp.us.debian.org:
> >
> > lrwxrwxrwx1 21285 212856 Feb  5  2011 testing -> wheezy
> > lrwxrwxrwx1 21285 21285   23 Feb  5  2011
> > testing-proposed-updates -> wheezy-proposed-updates
> > drwxr-sr-x5 21285 21285   28 Jan 29  2012 wheezy
> > drwxr-sr-x5 21285 21285   21 Jan 29  2012
> > wheezy-proposed-updates
> >
>
> I am convinced. I should read with better comprehension. Sorry.
>

No problem at all, Paul!  I replied to the other message because I saw it
before I saw this one!

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Re: /usr/lib/mutt/mailto-mutt

[Bob Proulx]

peasth...@shaw.ca wrote:
> At least one reader of debian-user has reported this to work.  Yet 
> the terminal doesn't open here and there is nothing relevant in 
> /var/log/{syslog,mail.*}.

Look in your ~/.xsession-errors file.  That is where the output from
all X programs go.

Generally there are a lot of noisy programs out there so expect to see
a lot of spurious output logged there from everything.  You will have
to wade through the noise to find anything of significance.

> Does this work in other Squeeze installations?  Ideas?  Suggestions?

Works for me here.

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Re: /usr/lib/mutt/mailto-mutt

[Brian]

On Sun 29 Jan 2012 at 15:30:42 -0700, peasth...@shaw.ca wrote:

> Given a current Squeeze with Iceweasel and mutt.  Suppose Iceweasel 
> displays a page with a mailto link.  To illustrate, each archived 
> message in http://lists.debian.org/ has a "Reply to:" heading followed 
> by three mailto links.  A click on the link should invoke mutt by 
> operation of /usr/lib/mutt/mailto-mutt.  A terminal viewer should 
> open and display the message template.
> 
> At least one reader of debian-user has reported this to work.  Yet 
> the terminal doesn't open here and there is nothing relevant in 
> /var/log/{syslog,mail.*}.
> 
> Does this work in other Squeeze installations?  Ideas?  Suggestions?

1. Test the script: execute /usr/lib/mutt/mailto-mutt.

2. Check Iceweasel is set up correctly: 'cat /usr/lib/mutt/mailto-mutt'.


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Re: /usr/lib/mutt/mailto-mutt

[Vincent Lefevre]

On 2012-01-29 15:30:42 -0700, peasth...@shaw.ca wrote:
> Given a current Squeeze with Iceweasel and mutt.  Suppose Iceweasel 
> displays a page with a mailto link.  To illustrate, each archived 
> message in http://lists.debian.org/ has a "Reply to:" heading followed 
> by three mailto links.  A click on the link should invoke mutt by 
> operation of /usr/lib/mutt/mailto-mutt.  A terminal viewer should 
> open and display the message template.
> 
> At least one reader of debian-user has reported this to work.  Yet 
> the terminal doesn't open here and there is nothing relevant in 
> /var/log/{syslog,mail.*}.

In the Iceweasel Preferences -> Applications, check that this script
is used for "mailto" Content Type.

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Re: /usr/lib/mutt/mailto-mutt

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Hello peasth...@shaw.ca,

I use since ages (maybe back in Woody or Sarge) the following script:

[ '~/bin/mutt_firefox' ]
#!/bin/sh

xterm -geometry 80x45+400+100 -u8 -e mutt -e "set editor=mcedit" "$*"


and it works perfectly.

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Re: debian losing usb detection after guest OS sees a USB device in virtualbox

[H.S.]

On 29/01/12 09:42 AM, H.S. wrote:

>> This leads me to believe the device name being assigned to the device
>> is "usb0".  Try this in /etc/network/interfaces:
>>
>>   iface usb0 inet manual
>>
>> That line should tell ifupdown that the configuration is manual.  And
>> since it is a configuration for ifupdown that tells NetworkManager to
>> leave it alone.  I am pretty sure that will work.
> 
> That did help a little. Inserted that line in 'interfaces' file,
> restarted networking and network-manager and now Tomtom is not tried as
> a network device.
> 
> However, it is still grayed out in virtualbox and the VM doesn't see it
> as attached at all. Same behavior whether I have a filter for it in VB's
> USB devices filters section.
> 
> BTW, I have, since yesterday, virtualization enabled on my machine (amd
> machine, it is called AMD-V in it?). Is this necessary?


Well, a little success. Based on the thread here:
https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?t=4932 , I created a rules
file in /etc/udev.d with the following contents:
KERNEL=="vboxdrv", NAME="vboxdrv", OWNER="root", GROUP="root", MODE="0600"
#these two lines give access permission to vboxusers to properly work
with usb nodes, this could be security risk (bnc#664520) !!
SUBSYSTEM=="usb_device", ATTR{devnum}=="?*",
ATTR{busnum}=="?*",SYMLINK+="vboxusb/$attr{busnum}/$attr{devnum}",
GROUP="vboxusers"
SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ENV{DEVTYPE}=="usb_device", ATTR{devnum}=="?*",
ATTR{busnum}=="?*",SYMLINK="vboxusb/$attr{busnum}/$attr{devnum}",
GROUP="vboxusers"

Now the Tomtom device is visible to the guest OS and I can check or
uncheck it. However, Tomtom's application in Windows 7(guest OS) still
is unable to see that the device is connected.


Coming back to the first point, I see that this is a permissions issue.
Is there a better way than the brute force method in the rules files above?




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Re: Accented Characters - How to type from standard keyboard?

[Thomas H. George]

On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 07:39:22PM -0500, Tony Baldwin wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 03:40:51PM -0500, doug wrote:
> > On 01/28/2012 02:40 PM, Michael Lange wrote:
> > >Hi,
> > >
> > >Thus spoketh "Thomas H. George"
> > >unto us on Sat, 28 Jan 2012 11:19:09 -0500:
> > >
> > /snip/
> 
> > >You can set up a compose key; here I have added
> > >
> > > Option "XkbOptions" "compose:Super_R"
> > >
> > >to the Keyboard section in /etc/X11/xorg.conf and now I can use the right
> > >one of the "Windows" keys as compose key, most of the default key
> > >combinations are quite intuitive, for example if I press the ComposeKey
> > >followed by an "a" and an apostrophe I get á , or an "o" followed by a
> > >slash gives ø and so on.
> > .snip/
> > >
> > >You can even setup custom key combinations in case you can locate the
> > >correct file for that; here I have a file ~/.XCompose, but changes to
> > >this file are ignored by gtk apps , and xterm and friends seem to be
> > >unable to handle certain characters.
> 
> Why not just use a US Intl with deadkeys keyboard layout?
> I use it (I type in four languages, comes in very handy:
> ñ é à ô ü þ ð µ ç etc., all very easy to type).
> 
> ./tony

What is the deadkeys keyboard layout and how do I install/use it?

Incidently, none of the other proposed solutions work.  There is no
xorg.conf any more or at least it is no longer needed.  Wild cards did
not work with mv - well perhaps they do but I was trying to use
directory completion as the directory in question was extremely long and
that didn't work.

I solved the original problem by moving the other entries and deleting
the directory that contained the offending sub directory.

For future use I would like to be able to enter special characters and
symbols from a standard keyboard when working with a terminal.  There is
no problem in writing an email.  For that I use the iceape suite which
allows the insertion of special characters and symbols selected from a
table.  The problem comes up in situations like working with a terminal
entering tags for ogg files.

In theory what I want is to use the console_codes ^N and ^O to shift
between to font sets, ESC ) N to load a user defined font in G1 and
mapscrn or setfont to make the user defined font start with the
characters from 128 to 255.  In practice I can't make any of these
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Re: lcdproc missing driver imonlcd in squeeze

[Scott Ferguson]

On 29/01/12 23:12, Ramon Hofer wrote:
> Hi all
> 
> I'm trying to configure a Soundgraph 15c2:0038 display.
> In Ubuntu which I had running before on that PC it was very easy to get 
> the display working: Install lcdproc and change the driver in /etc/
> LCDd.conf to imonlcd.
> Unfortunately this isn't possible in squeeze because this driver isn't 
> available.



> 
> Best regards
> Ramon
> 
> 

# apt-get install lcdproc
http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/lcdproc
pool/main/l/lcdproc/

Did I miss something there?



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Re: debian losing usb detection after guest OS sees a USB device in virtualbox

[Scott Ferguson]

On 30/01/12 01:42, H.S. wrote:
> On 29/01/12 01:14 AM, Bob Proulx wrote:
>> Scott Ferguson wrote:
>>> H.S. wrote:
 So, looks like I need to somehow make network manager not mess with
 Tomtom when it is plugged in.
>>>
>>> I would be useful for others if you post your success at getting NM to
>>> ignore a device here.
>>
>> Agreed!
>>
>> Previously:
> Jan 28 22:21:59 red NetworkManager[2188]:SCPlugin-Ifupdown: device 
> added (path: 
> /sys/devices/pci:00/:00:16.2/usb3/3-1/3-1:1.0/net/usb0, iface: 
> usb0): no ifupdown configuration found.
> Jan 28 22:21:59 red NetworkManager[2188]:  (usb0): now managed
>>
>> This leads me to believe the device name being assigned to the device
>> is "usb0".  Try this in /etc/network/interfaces:
>>
>>   iface usb0 inet manual
>>
>> That line should tell ifupdown that the configuration is manual.  And
>> since it is a configuration for ifupdown that tells NetworkManager to
>> leave it alone.  I am pretty sure that will work.
> 
> That did help a little. Inserted that line in 'interfaces' file,
> restarted networking and network-manager and now Tomtom is not tried as
> a network device.
> 
> However, it is still grayed out in virtualbox and the VM doesn't see it
> as attached at all. Same behavior whether I have a filter for it in VB's
> USB devices filters section.

Any error messages or warnings in dmesg?
Does everything look as it should in:-
$ mount

Clear the VirtualBox log, reset all warnings, then retry. Then post the
log to paste.debian.net and post a link here.

> 
> BTW, I have, since yesterday, virtualization enabled on my machine (amd
> machine, it is called AMD-V in it?). Is this necessary?
> 

I'm not sure what you mean by "virtualization enabled".


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Re: Using wheezy or testing in sources.list for security updates

[Scott Ferguson]

On 29/01/12 21:51, Colin wrote:
> Hi all,
> After reading the security support on testing[1], I was thinking if I
> would use wheezy at the moment on my sources.list instead of testing,
> then I would all have the "updates" from testing plus the security
> ones?
> Or should I just use 'deb http://security.debian.org testing/updates
> main contrib non-free' ?
> 
Where possible use wheezy in place of testing.


As others have pointed out Wheezy (*currently*) == Testing. That will
change when Wheezy becomes Stable. Using Wheezy instead of Testing (it's
just a synonym at present) will allow you to decide whether you wish to
remain with Testing when Wheezy becomes stable.


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Re: screwed up my network starting

[Anand Sivaram]

On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 08:27, Bob Proulx  wrote:

> H.S. wrote:
> > Bob Proulx wrote:
> > > It is okay to have both specified, I usually do.
> >
> > When I dealt with this issue last (a few years ago), I was under the
> > impression that only one needs to be used. Either I was mistaken then,
> > or things have improved in the right direction.
>
> You are correct.  Only one needs to be used.  But I am also correct in
> that it is okay to have both.  :-) There isn't any problem having both
> 'auto' and 'allow-hotplug' in place.  If you don't have 'auto' then
> 'service networking restart' (the new preferred form over
> '/etc/init.d/networking restart') won't do anything.  But if you do
> use it then you get a deprecated warning letting you know that the
> things are moving to an event driven world view.
>
> It is now preferred to use 'allow-hotplug' and the event driven
> interface for everything.  It is nice having the hook scripts in
> /etc/network/if-up.d/* and other siblings there to trigger events when
> interfaces come online and offline.  It is educational to browse
> through there and see all of the activity that happens when a device
> is brought up and down.
>
> > > If your usb device appears as a network device I think it may be
> > > confusing NetworkManager.  It is possible and perhaps likely that
> > > NetworkManager is trying to set up this newly hotplugged interface,
> > > that is what NM is designed to do, and then updating /etc/resolv.conf.
> > > However this being the root of the issue is pure speculation on my
> > > part.  It seems odd to me that your device would appear as a network
> > > device.
> >
> > Seems reasonably. But when this problem occurred, I was using static
> > address and my resolvconf was probably not working due to my config
> > errors in interfaces file.
>
> Sorry for not griping about NetworkManager loudly enough for my
> disdain to be apparent.  :-) I am one of the people that have been
> burned by NM and so do not like the assumptions it makes.  And now you
> have been hit by it too!  Since NM is installed and running it will
> notice that a new network device has appeared.  NetworkManager will
> then configure it regardless of your desires one way or the other!
> The only two ways to prevent NetworkManager from touching your devices
> is to either a) specify them explicitly in /etc/network/interfaces
> with an interface stanza.  (In this case maybe the 'manual' method is
> the most appropriate, I don't know.) Or b) to remove NetworkManager
> from your system so that it stops messing with the devices.  I always
> remove NM from the system.  (Never try to teach a pig to sing.  It
> wastes your time and annoys the pig.  --Robert Heinlein)
>
> I was therefore implying that removing NetworkManager might make your
> life easier because then it would stop trying to configure this new
> network interface.  But in reality specifying the interface as
> 'manual' may be perfectly sufficient.
>
>  iface eth1 inet manual   # <-- Use the right network device here.
>
> > I didn't explain properly. The phrase was intended to mean that I am now
> > using a shared ISP service, and I am using the other party's router.
>
> I will read this as, using a different router than before, attached to
> a different ISP than before.
>
> > There are a few quirks in their setup which I would avoid, but that is a
> > different topic. In any case, I am trying to do minimum changes in their
> > router's configuration.
>
> Sounds perfectly reasonable.
>
> > Just to elaborate a bit, their router is also a wireless AP. I have
> > configured my router as a wireless bridge to that AP (Tomato made that
> > pretty easy).
>
> And in theory if you are connected through a bridge it should
> generally be the same as being connected directly without the bridge.
>
> > I haven't still resolved what is the deal with Tomtom device appearing
> > as a network device.
>
> I don't have a Tomtom but my thoughts were also surprised by that way
> of doing things.
>
> > But my computer's networking is working fine with dhcp. All I now
> > need to do is to configure resolvconf to use my specified opendns
> > addresses.
> >
> > Thanks for all the explanations and corrections.
>
> Glad to be able to help.
>
> > Is there a GUI in KDE that allows do these kind of configurations,
> > something akin to Gnome's nm-applet?
>
> As far as I know NetworkManager is the default for both GNOME and KDE
> on Debian installations.  NM was originally a GNOME based project but
> I believe it is now used by both of those desktop projects.  But I
> haven't set up KDE on a system in a while and so am not currently well
> informed on the topic.  But I do test installs often and so if I
> remember will queue one up and look to see what it uses.
>
> Bob
>


Nice discussion.  Just one addition since I am also using Tomato firmware
for my WRT54GL.
You could configure a feature named "static dhcp" in tomato, means
associating one MAC address to an IP 

Re: how to get rid of pulseaudio gracefully

[Enrico Weigelt]

* Harry Putnam  schrieb:

> I want to get rid of pulseaudio.  I almost never even use sound in
> linux and I see it always chugging away at 5-8 % cpu.  That seems a
> bit extreme some how.

Can you measure how much load pulseaudio itself does ?
(in idle vs. active).

I'm really curious about those numbers.

Actually, I *personally* would prefer if all applications that wanna
do some audio IO use such an audio server, instead of ever trying
to access the devices directly - if there's no audio server running,
simply no audio IO is done. At least speaking of typical desktop
and server systems (embedded world is quite different, yes).

In this context, I'd appreciate some simple platform agnostig audio
IO interface library, which the vast majority of applications can use,
without ever having to care about the actually used sound system.
This library can could exist in different variants for the platform-
specific audio systems.

> Things like uninstalling gnome-core.  Isn't that a bit dramatic just
> to get rid of pulseaudio?
> 
>   Remove the following packages
>   1) gnome-accessibility  
> 
>   2) gnome-core   
> 
>   3) libcanberra-pulse
> 
>   4) pulseaudio-esound-compat 
> 
>   5) pulseaudio-module-x11
> 
>   6) task-gnome-desktop   
> 

hmm, maybe it's just a matter of too large packages and dependencies ?


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Re: Gpm Eats the Disk

[Enrico Weigelt]

* David Baron  schrieb:

> Gpm starts spewing error messages  syslog and daemon.log grow and grow 
> quickly 
> filling the /var filesystem's partition. I mean 10's of gigabytes. The system 
> still works but is now crippled, anything really needing /var like mail is 
> borked. So is ext3 journaling.

Which messages exactly ?
Have you already talked to upstream (Nico Schottelius) ?


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Not getting mails in inbox

[Harshad Joshi]

I am not getting replies to mails i am sending on this list. i have to
manually check or refer google to get answers..

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how to get gdm3 greeter to display menu of hosts for remote login via xdmcp

[Rick Thomas]

How do I get the gnome3 greeter to give me a menu of hosts on the local 
network who are willing to accept an xdmcp login?


On my "squeeze" machines running gdm, at the login screen there is a 
drop-down called "Actions" that has one option called "Remote login via 
xdmcp".  When I choose that option, I get a list of hosts on the local 
network who are willing to accept logins via xdmcp.


But on my "wheeze" machine, first of all there's no "Actions" drop down 
at all, and I can't find any other way to get the list of xdmcp 
accepting hosts.


Does anyone know what magic I'm missing?  Is there something I can put 
into one of the files in /etc/gdm3/ that will enable the remote host 
chooser?


Thanks in advance!

Rick


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Re: Converting to btrfs

[Alan Chandler]

On 29/01/12 18:21, Christian Dysthe wrote:

Hi,

I have an older laptop running Sid I like to play around with. I would
like to check out the new btrfs file system and know you can easily convert
from  ext4 to btrfs. The disk is partitioned with a small /boot partition, a
10 gb / partition and a /home parirtion taking the rest of the disk (except
for swap). As long as I keep the /boot parition ext4 do I have to do more
than point to the new UUIDs in fstab after conversion and update grub?



Its been a while since I made myself a setup like this - but I think you 
will also have to ensure that initramfs has the bttrfs driver in it.


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Software-upgrades not installable due to APT-misconfiguration ?

[Andreas Glaeser]

> Please post the output of 'apt-cache policy'.
> 

andreas@osrdii:~$ apt-cache policy
Package files:
 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
 release a=now
 100 http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports/ squeeze-backports/main amd64 
Packages
 release o=Debian Backports,a=squeeze-backports,n=squeeze-backports,l=Debian
Backports,c=main origin backports.debian.org
 500 ftp://ftp.debian-multimedia.org/ squeeze/non-free amd64 Packages
 release v=6.0,o=Unofficial Multimedia 
Packages,a=stable,n=squeeze,l=Unofficial
Multimedia Packages,c=non-free origin ftp.debian-multimedia.org
 500 ftp://ftp.debian-multimedia.org/ squeeze/main amd64 Packages
 release v=6.0,o=Unofficial Multimedia 
Packages,a=stable,n=squeeze,l=Unofficial
Multimedia Packages,c=main origin ftp.debian-multimedia.org
 500 ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-proposed-updates/non-free 
Translation-en
 500 ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-proposed-updates/main 
Translation-en
 500 ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-proposed-updates/contrib 
Translation-en
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Pinned packages:
andreas@osrdii:~$ 

> ...and wheezy? This asks for trouble :)
> 

The testing distribution is in my sources.list only to get updates for the 
current
testing-kernel. Only two minor dependencies were pulled in when installing it.


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Re: Wheezy. Weekly build 23-Jan-2012. "No kernel modules were found" during install.

[Leonid Korostyshevski]

On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 2:28 AM, Jan Harnisch  wrote:

> Same problem here. After receiving the error, at first it seems possible
> to continue the installation (as long as one doesn't need the network
> card). However when entering partman, there seems to be no way to assign a
> mountpoint to any partition.
> The only workaround I found so far is this one:
> www.linuxquestions.org/**questions/debian-26/wheezy-**
> netinst-iso-installation-**problem-921825/
>
>
Thanks!
Cannot use netinsall, because no LAN/WiFi network is available.

If somebody knows, is that bug fixed in upcoming DVD 30-01-2012 weekly
build? ~3.7Gb is a way big for 3G uplink, so should it be marked for
download when *.iso will be ready for?

Re: how to get rid of pulseaudio gracefully

[Bob]

On 01/28/2012 06:04 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote:

On 28/01/12 01:41, Harry Putnam wrote:

Scott Ferguson  writes:


I use KDE (on Squeeze) and Pulse rarely uses more than 2% even when
networked to multiple boxen.


Interesting, so likely local config problems.


Not that I'd call 5-8% CPU "chugging" anyway (chugging means the CPU is
at close to 100%).


I never heard that... In fact, I'd say it is more often a reference to
methodically emptying a beer glass... hehe.


Drinking like a steam train chu-chu-chugging up a hill.
So when your apps start chu-chu-chug-ging




I'd say in instances where it's not referring to the speedy draining of 
a pint or yard of biter it's used to indicate a certain relentless 
steady speed like a canal boat or a car tooling down the motorway at 
cruising speed.


PS I haven't had good experience with software mixers & I still use my 
13 year old Sound Blaster Live! value outputting S/PDIF, it may be 
antiquated but it has a hardware mixer so things just work.



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