date:20110612

On Sun, 2011-06-12 at 11:09 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote:
> On 12/06/11 09:52, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > On Sat, 2011-06-11 at 19:37 -0400, H.S. wrote:
> >> On 11/06/11 07:21 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote:
> >>> On 12/06/11 08:48, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> 
> >>>
> >>
> >> er .. perhaps a dumb question, is a disc mounted while being written to?
> 
> No. And No.

The drive isn't mounted?

> Eject doesn't care about mount.
> I've had plenty of drives lock up my system because of an unreadable
> sector - when they don't promptly respond to an eject command I like to
> open them with a hammer. (it's the only way they learn respect)

:)


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Re: k3b can't burn audio CD, got a few coasters today

On Sat, 2011-06-11 at 21:01 -0400, H.S. wrote:
> On 11/06/11 07:52 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > On Sat, 2011-06-11 at 19:37 -0400, H.S. wrote:
> >> On 11/06/11 07:21 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote:
> >>> On 12/06/11 08:48, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>  Sorry, I can't help you, but perhaps there's a better way to eject a CD.
>  I don't know how Debian currently does mount those drives, but perhaps
>  this isn't outdated:
> 
>  http://www.crazysquirrel.com/computing/debian/unmounting.jspx
> 
> 
> >>>
> >>> umount -l /path/to/mount
> >>> eject
> >>> eject -T
> >>> eject -r
> >>> eject -s
> >>>
> >>> If more than one device, follow eject with path to mount
> >>>
> >>> Cheers
> >>>
> >>
> >> er .. perhaps a dumb question, is a disc mounted while being written to?
> > 
> > Before you get write or read access a disc is mounted. I'm not sure if
> > it's possible to u(n)mount the drive when it's still working. I suspect
> > that Scott has the better knowledge, if not, try the tips given by the
> > link. I didn't read the link and I don't know how those media get
> > mounted, perhaps by 'something' called HAL,
> > http://images.wikia.com/2001/images/1/18/Hal9000.jpg :), Ralf
> > 
> > 
> 
> I also assumed hal was at work. However, I noticed with some concern
> today that while doing a safe-upgrade with aptitude, hal was being
> removed. What I have now is:
> $ dpkg -l hal*
> Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
> |
> Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
> |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
> ||/ Name   Version
>   Description
> +++-==-==-
> rc  hal 0.5.14-6 Hardware Abstraction Layer
> un  hal-cups-utils   (no description available)
> un  hal-info (no description available)
> 
> 
> So, doesn't look like hal is playing any role anymore, much to my surprise.

I heard about some distros using something else, but hal. I don't have
knowledge about automount methods, at least libhal-storage1 and libhal1
are installed.


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Re: k3b can't burn audio CD, got a few coasters today

On Sat, 2011-06-11 at 22:02 -0400, H.S. wrote:
> On 11/06/11 09:32 PM, H.S. wrote:
> > On 11/06/11 09:30 PM, H.S. wrote:
> >> On 11/06/11 09:09 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote:
> > 
> >>
> >>
> >>> Does gnomebaker work?
> >>
> >> Haven't tried it yet. In fact, I have no idea how to use it to burn an
> >> audio CD from mp3 files. It is quite dumb really in that respect.
> > 
> > Sorry, not gnomebaker but nautilus. Haven't tried gnomebaker yet, will
> > do so now.
> 
> Gnomebaker is no more, is it? apt-cache search gnomebaker turns up nothing.

I never installed it myself, I thought that K3b is the only valid Linux
burning tool GUI for Linux, perhaps gcdmaster is good too. But note, as
soon as GNOME2 will be dropped gcdmaster will be dropped too, regarding
to GTK2 libs. The next release of Ubuntu already drops GNOME2. No
gnomebaker here too.


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skype-debian_2.2.0.35-1_amd64.deb

2011-06-12 Thread Mathieu Malaterre

$ sudo dpkg -i skype-debian_2.2.0.35-1_amd64.deb
Selecting previously deselected package skype.
(Reading database ... 120513 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking skype (from skype-debian_2.2.0.35-1_amd64.deb) ...
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of skype:
 skype depends on lib32stdc++6 (>= 4.1.1-21); however:
  Package lib32stdc++6 is not installed.
...

Why put amd64 in the name then...

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Re: Subscription

On Sun, 2011-06-12 at 11:24 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote:
> On 12/06/11 09:10, Lisi wrote:
> > On Saturday 11 June 2011 17:54:35 Scott Ferguson wrote:
> >> *cough* some of us do design websites the blind and visually handicapped
> >> in mindit's just not noticed by those with normal vision. (sigh) ;-p
> > 
> > Many don't bother.  And just for the record I myself am partially sighted 
> > (our 
> > awful euphemism!).  If someone can't be bothered to make the site visible, 
> > I 
> > can't be bothered to try and read it.
> > 
> > As you rightly say, it is a shame to throw all those potential customers 
> > out 
> > with the rubbish. 
> > But I have got better things to do with my life than try 
> > desperately to make out what that mid-grey writing on a pale grey 
> > background 
> > is actually saying, or what that "pretty" graphic is successfully masking.
> 
> Email the management. Just to let them know that you won't be buying
> their product because you *can't* view the site, and that you'll be
> emailing their shareholder to tell them you emailed the management - who
> don't give a stuff, so now you're going to lobby everyone you know to
> not buy their stuff - because you don't like being insulted or
> marginalised, and you think your money is just as good as anyone else's.
> And let 'em know you'll be spending up big with their opposition...
> You can also point them at Debian.org as an example of how to do it right.
> 
> If that doesn't work. Rent a wheelchair get some friends with big
> cameras, buy a $1 share and shutdown their agm. It's easy if you've got
> the time and know their pain points. ;-p
> > 
> > Those like you who try to make things accessible are much appreciated - 
> > anyhow 
> > by me!
> > 
> > Lisi

After reading a long text on a private homepage, the last, very small
words I read were "Click here to change the colours" ;). Sometimes there
is such an option, but it's very good hidden. I'm not visible impaired,
but who wishes to read "mid-grey writing on a pale grey background"?
A lot of German companies don't care about minorities. They don't care
about the broadcasting van. They wait until a report was send by a big
television station, then thy claim everything just was a big
misunderstanding and then 'they care' about minorities. This doesn't
have a loss of image in Germany, hence nobody cares for minorities here,
excepted guilty ones are needed to blame for something. German sheep dog
shit on the sidewalk? No, it must be Romany people shit.

I guess people all over the world are similar :(. If in your country the
big cameras should help, wow! :) Ralf

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Re: k3b can't burn audio CD, got a few coasters today

2011-06-12 Thread tv.deb...@googlemail.com

Hi, answers inline.

>12/06/2011 00:12, H.S. wrote:
> Hello.
> 
> I have experienced this problem on and off for the past several months.
> But today it was the worst case. I am trying to burn a bunch of mp3
> files to make an audio CD using k3b. I was able to so do for the first
> one after burning only a single coaster. The second one is still not
> done and I already have wasted 5 discs in the process.
> 
[trim]
> The permissions for my optical drive are:
> $ ls -l /dev/dvd*
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 Jun 11 16:36 /dev/dvd -> sr0
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 Jun 11 16:36 /dev/dvdrw -> sr0
> $ ls -al /dev/sr0
> brw-rw+ 1 root cdrom 11, 0 Jun 11 16:36 /dev/sr0
> 
> and do belong to 'cdrom' group.
> 
> Thanks.

Look into the "configuration" k3b menu, "set system permissions", make
sure there isn't a funny group attributed to the burning task.


> PS:
> The error that k3b gives me is the following:
> --
[trim]
> System
> ---
> K3b Version: 2.0.2
> KDE Version: 4.6.3 (4.6.3)
> QT Version:  4.7.3
> Kernel:  2.6.38-2-amd64
>

Given your kde version you don't need hal at all, purge it, it's a
plague anyway. Just make sure you don't have any Gnome or whatever
programs which needs it (hwinfo still needs it I think, maybe others).

> Used versions
> ---
> cdrecord: 1.1.11
> 
> cdrecord
> ---
> /usr/bin/wodim: Operation not permitted. Warning: Cannot raise
> RLIMIT_MEMLOCK limits.

This my be a hint...

[trim]
> Sending CUE sheet...
> Errno: 5 (Input/output error), write_g1 scsi sendcmd: no error
> CDB:  2A 00 FF FF FE 52 00 01 18 00
> status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION)
> Sense Bytes: 72 0B 00 00 00 00 00 0E 09 0C 00 34 00 03 00 00
> Sense Key: 0x0 No Additional Sense, Segment 11
> Sense Code: 0x00 Qual 0x03 (setmark detected) Fru 0x0
> Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid)
> cmd finished after 148.975s timeout 200s
> /usr/bin/wodim: Could not write Lead-in.
> Errno: 5 (Input/output error), prevent/allow medium removal scsi
> sendcmd: fatal error
> CDB:  1E 00 00 00 00 00
> cmd finished after 0.000s timeout 200s
> SAO startsec: -12508
> Writing lead-in...
> write CD-Text data: error after 1159488 bytes
> Writing  time:  169.988s
> /usr/bin/wodim: fifo had 191 puts and 0 gets.
> /usr/bin/wodim: fifo was 0 times empty and 0 times full, min fill was 100%.

This isn't very specific, it could be another program poling and holding
the drive, did you try "lsof" or "fuser" the device node to see if
something is using it ? I also got this kind of errors with permissions
problems, but yours look good.


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Re: Configuring Iceweasel security policies.

On 12/06/11 12:05, peasth...@shaw.ca wrote:
> * From: Scott Ferguson 
> * Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 23:23:30 +1000

> Here is my explanation again, step by step.
> * I sit in front of the console of dalton.
> * Using Iceweasel in Squeeze, open this. 
> "http://members.shaw.ca/peasthope/#Links";
>   It's public.  Have a look.
> * There I see the link with anchor file:///Category2.html and target the same.
> * Click on that anchor.  I expect dalton:/home/peter/Category2.html 
>  open but nothing happens except for the message to the Iceweasel 
>  error console.  Ref. earlier message.  Is there a syntax such as 
>  dalton.invalid:file:///Category2.html ? 

Yes.

> * Save the page "http://members.shaw.ca/peasthope/"; onto storage of Dalton.
> * Open that page on Dalton.
> * Now in this image from the local copy, click on the anchor 
> file:///Category2.html.
> * Now Category2.html opens.
> 

> 
> The steps above demonstrate that the link from dalton:/Category2.html 
> to dalton:/home/peter/Category2.html works.

Stepping through what you've described above...

You are on a Dalton console.
If you are *not* running as root (and why would you be?)

~$ pwd
~$ /home/peter

You saved the page to "storage of Dalton" presumably "storage" is
somewhere below /home/peter

eg.:-
home/peter/"Peter Lyall Easthope.html"

That page contains a link:-
[a href="file:///Category2.html"]file:///Category2.html[/a>]

That link points to Category2.html
ie.:-
~$ mlocate Category2.html (would give based on the info given...)
~$ /home/peter/Category2.html

You then say that the link works (I don't disbelieve you)- but that link
is pointing at the root of Dalton, not the root of Peters home directory
So "something" I'm assuming in the above scenario is not correct.

Just to clarify:-
When you click on a http link in a html page the link is "relative" to
the web server. If the server is a webserver (eg. Apache) the root is
(generally) /var/www.  The module running on the apache server at
member.shaw.ca means a virtual server for each user has it's root in the
users home directory
eg.
/home/peter (unlikely as you have config files there)
OR
/home/peter/public_html (more likely as now only files used by the web
server are in the root of the web server).

You shouldn't be able to save "Peter Lyall Easthope.html" to anywhere
above your home directory - and yet the file link in it will always
point to the root of Dalton. This is because an absolute file link in a
local (same machine) .html file always has the base of it's path as the
/ of that local machine (where localhost is).

ie doesn't matter whether "Peter Lyall Easthope.html" lives at:-
/"Peter Lyall Easthope.html"
/etc/"Peter Lyall Easthope.html"
/var/log/apt/"Peter Lyall Easthope.html"
OR even /home/peter/"Peter Lyall Easthope.html"

The link file:///Category2.html will always point to
/"Peter Lyall Easthope.html"

Because the browser replaces "file" with localhost, which renders the
URI /"Peter Lyall Easthope.html" (damn absolute links!)

I'm sure, somewhere in all these threads you've explained what Dalton is
running, but I'm a little confused with talk of Oberon and vnc
connections to Iceweasel running on other machines. When I refer to
localhost I mean the machine that hosts Iceweasel. I'm also assuming
that Iceweasel is not running as root, and that the directory that you
save "Peter Lyall Easthope.html" into is mounted on the same machine as
the file Category2.html.

Please correct my misunderstanding.

> 

>> http://pe...@members.shaw.ca/ (from your policy in the last post)
>> A login on a site with no authentication??
> 
> Authentication is not necessary to look at a public Web page.

Agreed - *but* http://pe...@members.shaw.ca/ is asking the browser to
login to members.shaw.ca.
And the server on shaw.ca says "I'm sorry Dave but" :-D
So what the browser is actually served is members.shaw.ca
eg.:-
http://pe...@members.shaw.ca/ == http://members.shaw.ca/

Which seems like a waste of 6 characters ;-p

> 
> Regards,... Peter E.
> 
> 

Cheers, and thanks for your patience.

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It's only a choice.
No effort, no work, no job, no savings and money, a choice, right now,
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Is there any valid reason to add an idiotic script to /etc/init.d by an default Debian install that only cause a PITA?

 Forwarded Message 
From: Ralf Mardorf
To: linux-audio-u...@lists.linuxaudio.org
Subject: Re: [LAU] Jack vs. Alsa, PianoTeq demo: Alsa wins!
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 12:15:20 +0200

On Sun, 2011-06-12 at 11:59 +0200, [...] wrote:
> On 06/12/2011 11:44 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > What CPU frequency scaling? Is it set to performance? There's a new
> > nuisance for GNOME desktops on Ubuntu and Debian, they ignore the
> > kernel's default CPU frequency scaling, they switch from 'performance'
> > to 'ondemand' for GNOME sessions.
> 
> apt-file search ondemand | grep init.d
> initscripts: /etc/init.d/ondemand
> 
> So at least on Ubuntu the ondemand init script is part of the 
> initscripts package and has nothing to do with Gnome.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Jeremy

Thank you :)

On Debian it's

$ cat /etc/init.d/cpufrequtils
#!/bin/sh
[snip]
GOVERNOR="ondemand"
[snip]

anyway, this is idiocy, hence the default can be set by the kernel. For
the kernel-generic-default-office-non-real-time a distro could chose
'ondemand'. This script is nonsense and only cause that once a month
somebody send a request regarding to xruns when using jackd.

Regards,

Ralf

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open source time/expense tracking package?

2011-06-12 Thread Guido Hecken

> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: Miles Fidelman [mailto:mfidel...@meetinghouse.net]
> Gesendet: Samstag, 11. Juni 2011 17:59
> An: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Betreff: Re: open source time/expense tracking package?
> 
> Thanks for the suggestions.  So far
> 
> sillaj:  too simple
> 
> dotproject: seems like it might be buried in there, but way too complex,
> undocumented, the demo is down, ...
> 
> opentimetool:  looks like it might do the trick - unfortunately, I can't
> read German, and both the English documentation and demo are sketchy.
> Guido - since you indicated that you're using it in production,  you us
> it - can you tell me if it provides for timesheet approval by a supervisor?

What do you mean exactly with "timesheet approval"?
Things in opentimetool work like this:
Supervisor (User in Admin Mode) creates and defines
- Users
- Customers
- Projects
- Assignment of teams to projects
- Max effort on Projects (timebased)
- Project valid from date to date
- Project closed after x days

Of course, an admin user can review and alter the timesheets of other team 
members.

Apart from the above mentioned admin tools and the main time collect features 
in normal user mode, viewing projects and time effort (with filters) and 
exporting things to pdf or csv, there are no main administration options in 
opentimetool.
They keep things simple, and we love simplicity, don't we?
:-)

Regards,
Guido

> 
> It really is funny - I've gone through the wikipedia lists, as well as a
> lot of other lists of "10 best open source project management tools" and
> such --- you'd think that with all the folks who do various kinds of
> project-oriented work there's be something out there that does basic
> corporate-style time-sheet processing, you know:
> - enter your time data by project
> - submit at the end of the week
> - supervisor approval
> - export in a form that can be ingested by quickbooks or some other
> accounting/billing package
> - keep an audit trail (or at least a basic log)
> 
> Fairly simple-minded vis-a-vis project management software, but seems to
> be hard (impossible?) to find - except in commercial products or
> services.  (Plus a few "pretend open-source" things out there - i.e.,
> really crippled community versions of commercial products.)
> 
> Pieces of this also exist as Drupal and Wordpress plug-ins - but no cigar.
> 
> Sigh... might have to write one.  Seems like a natural for some form of
> forms/workflow engine that provides spreadsheet functionality - any
> suggestions there?
> 
> Miles
> 
> 
> 
> --
> In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.
> In  practice, there is.    Yogi Berra
> 
> 
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Re: skype-debian_2.2.0.35-1_amd64.deb

2011-06-12 Thread Jerome BENOIT


Hello Mathieu,

On 12/06/11 11:10, Mathieu Malaterre wrote:

$ sudo dpkg -i skype-debian_2.2.0.35-1_amd64.deb
Selecting previously deselected package skype.
(Reading database ... 120513 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking skype (from skype-debian_2.2.0.35-1_amd64.deb) ...
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of skype:
  skype depends on lib32stdc++6 (>= 4.1.1-21); however:
   Package lib32stdc++6 is not installed.
...

Why put amd64 in the name then...



Skype is only available on 32 bits version:
amd64 system can run both 32 bits and 64 bits binaries,
so amd64 can run Skype provided that some basic 32 bits
libraries are also installed.

You may use something as dselect to install Skype
and its dependencies.

hth,
Jerome





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Re: Linux for humans that differ to averaged people was - Re: Subscription

2011-06-12 Thread Lisi

On Saturday 11 June 2011 16:42:12 Scott Ferguson wrote:
> > On Sat, 2011-06-11 at 10:27 +0100, Lisi wrote:
[snipped]
> >> That is not sarcasm incidentally.  I would genuinely like to know how
> >> you can use braille to read things on the Internet.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refreshable_Braille_display
>
>
> Literally interpreting your question
> (I used to build machines for people with vision problems)

Thanks, Scott. :-)

I meant it literally.  I had never come across or heard of a tactile computer 
display.

I am intrigued that they exist, but the RNIB (Royal National Institute for 
Blind people) doesn't sell them and doesn't seem to know about them.

I have googled, but am clearly asking the wrong question.

Scratch that!  I have tried again with Scott's search parameter and have 
finally found them mentioned on the RNIB site.  But they are, as you say, 
prohibitively expensive.  One is obviously not expected to want them, because 
I had even searched the RNIB shop with "braille" and not found displays, only 
inputs of various kinds.

There must be some multi-millionaires who are blind!!
Lisi

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Re: How to get Bell Canada 3G USB network up?

On 12/06/11 11:12, Christian Jaeger wrote:
>> Are you in a marginal signal area?
> 
> No (rarely, and not now).
> 
>> You *don't* want EDGE
> 
> (I guess so; also, I think 2G isn't even supported by my contract at all.)
> 

> 
>> cat /dev/ttyUSB0 should give you signal strength and available protocols.
> 
> # It didn't output anything while the connection was down (just
> block), then I upped the connection, still nothing, but then when it
> went down 20(-30) seconds later, 

That is the expected behaviour.

> this:
> 
> NO CARRIER

That  ^ makes sense given the scenario you are describing

> 
> $CNTI: 0, HSPA+
> 
> OK
> 
> # it goes on after a while, interestingly while in blinking mode 

**
What colour is the blinking light?

> (aka no (working) connection up anymore):
> 
> +CSQ: 12,99
> 
> OK
> 
> $CNTI: 0, HSPA+
> 
> OK
> 
> +CREG: 1,2D84,3F80
> 
> +CGREG: 1,2D84,3F80
> 
> +CSQ: 12,99

That is your signal quality. And no - I can't translate it for you.

> 
> OK
> 
> $CNTI: 0, HSPA+
> 
> OK
> 
> ...
> 
> 
>>
>> I'll be back later today - I'll have a dig for the command set and check
>> for firmware updates then, I'm pretty sure SaskTel have the same modem.
>> Do you have a verbose ppp log somewhere?
> 
> I've put the outputs of
> 
> # modem-manager --debug 2>&1 |log-timestamp -H > mm.log
> # NM_PPP_DEBUG=1 /usr/sbin/NetworkManager --no-daemon 2>&1
> |log-timestamp -H > nm.log

(Note I've never managed to get nm to do anything useful under KDE, even
though I spent more that 3 minutes trying...)

> 
> here:
> 
> http://christianjaeger.ch/scratch/bell_novatel/

Thank you.

[reads nm.log - sees word "Canonical" - goes into catatonic state]

Ahhh Ubuntu - I have heard tell of this thing. I swear I have never
touched one.
Normally I go into a frothing fury at the assumption that Debian has
anything to do with Ubuntu however I shall do my best to finish what
I started.
Disclaimer - The sheep farmer has nothing to do with things made by wool
mills. But I digress.

> 
> (There you could also find the firmware upgrader that I recently used
> on my modem to no avail.)

Have you successfully managed to use the same modem since failing to
upgrade?

> 
> I appreciate your help.
> 
> Christian.
> 

I have asked two questions above - look for the  lines.
Apologies if you've already answered them elsewhere.
If you could bear with me I'll do a bit more reading of those logs and
when I've read your answers I'll formulate a process for isolation
testing this problem.

Cheers

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Re: k3b can't burn audio CD, got a few coasters today

On Sat 11 Jun 2011 at 18:12:04 -0400, H.S. wrote:

> /usr/bin/wodim -v gracetime=2 dev=/dev/sr0 speed=48 -sao

See how you go on with burning at a much slower speed.


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Re: Subscription

2011-06-12 Thread Lisi

On Sunday 12 June 2011 02:24:57 Scott Ferguson wrote:
> Email the management. Just to let them know that you won't be buying
> their product because you *can't* view the site, and that you'll be
> emailing their shareholder to tell them you emailed the management - who
> don't give a stuff, so now you're going to lobby everyone you know to
> not buy their stuff - because you don't like being insulted or
> marginalised, and you think your money is just as good as anyone else's.
> And let 'em know you'll be spending up big with their opposition...
> You can also point them at Debian.org as an example of how to do it right.
>
> If that doesn't work. Rent a wheelchair get some friends with big
> cameras, buy a $1 share and shutdown their agm. It's easy if you've got
> the time and know their pain points. ;-p

:-))

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Re: broadcom

2011-06-12 Thread Lisi

On Saturday 11 June 2011 19:20:42 Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> Scott Ferguson wrote:
> > On 12/06/11 00:27, Chris Brennan wrote:
> >> * steef  [2011-06-11 15:32:00 +0200]:
> >>> hi list,
> >>>
> >>> bought my self a hp mini-netbook, included windoze7 and a very strong
> >>> accu, 10 hours of life.
> >>
> >> What's 'accu'?
> >
> > A dutch battery (they have wooden shoes, called clogs)
>
> No, no, they're called 'klompen'

Not in English.

But I am still lost as to the connection between batteries and clogs??

Lisi


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No sound in Totem

2011-06-12 Thread Mark Panen

Hi

Well after a bit of googling i give up.

My volume control in totem is greyed out and i get no sound only the
video plays.

I have sound in vlc no problem.

I am using KDE if that helps.

Mark


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Re: Set Up a server using Public IP Addresses on debian

2011-06-12 Thread Christian Simo

On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 3:08 PM, Camaleón  wrote:

> On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 14:14:31 +0200, Christian Simo wrote:
>
> > Hi all
> >
> > Sorry to response let!
>
> Please, keep the replies into the same thread, there is no need to open a
> new thread for every post :-)
>
> Sorry for that, I deleted by mistake the previous mails.


>  > I was busy with my ISP:
> >
> > please see below the NAT configuration for my Cisco Router done by my
> > ISP:
>
> (...)
>
> Christian, having a computer connected to Internet 24 hours 365 days
> which provides remote services it can be very risky (and not only for you
> or your LAN but the whole of the Internet users) so I think you need
> first to get some of the basics about networking and routing to
> understand what is this all about and what do you need, at least for
> making your first tests.
>
> Thanks for this resume,
in fact, I set up a network using class A 10.0.0.0:
my LAN gateway is 10.0.0.2
 n1.kom.co.za and ns2.kom.co.za are the hostnames for 10.0.0.80 and
10.0.0.82
this two debian machines are my DNS bind server.

Please below the interfaces files congigurations:


iface eth0 inet static
address 10.0.0.80
netmask 255.255.255.0
network 10.0.0.0
broadcast 10.0.0.255
gateway 10.0.0.2

# dns-* options are implemented by the resolvconf package, if
installed
dns-nameservers 196.28.80.139 196.28.80.140
dns-search ns1.kom.co.za ns2.kom.co.za

iface eth0 inet static
address 10.0.0.82
netmask 255.255.255.0
network 10.0.0.0
broadcast 10.0.0.255
gateway 10.0.0.2
# dns-* options are implemented by the resolvconf package, if
installed
dns-nameservers 196.28.80.139 196.28.80.140
dns-search ns1.kom.co.za ns2.kom.co.za

this below are my hosts files configurations for 10.0.0.80 and 10.0.0.82:

127.0.0.1   localhost
10.0.0.82   ns1.kom.co.za ns1


127.0.0.1   localhost
10.0.0.82   ns2.kom.co.za ns2




> I dunno how can we help you if we don't know what is your network layout,
> what routers/gateways/modems do you have configured at your site and what
> tests are you doing right know.
>
> The routers is a Cisco provide by my ISP  and I got 4 switch   D-LINK on
the network.

I said before, I planed to have two DNS server one as primary on 10.0.0.80
and another as slave on 10.0.0.82

my router IP is 41.134.19.89, 10.0.0.80 pointing on 41.134.19.90 with port
53 open and 10.0.0.82 pointing on 41.134.19.91 with ports 53 and 80 open.

See below my primary DNS configuration:

*File: /etc/bind/named.conf.local;*

zone "kom.co.za" IN {
type master;
file "/var/cache/bind/master.kom.co.za";
notify yes;
};


zone "0.0.10.in-addr.arpa" IN {
type master;
file "/var/cache/bind/kom.co.za.inv";
};


*File: /var/cache/bind/master.kom.co.za :*

$ORIGIN kom.co.za.
$TTL 861000
@   IN  SOA ns1.kom.co.za.postmaster.kom.co.za. (
2011061001  ; serial
3600; refresh
900 ; retry
1209600 ; expire
13200)  ; default_TTL

IN  NS  ns1.kom.co.za.
IN  NS  ns2.kom.co.za.

IN  MX  10  mail.kom.co.za.

ns1 IN  A   10.0.0.80
ns2 IN  A   10.0.0.82
www IN  A   10.0.0.81
sql IN  A   10.0.0.81
mailIN  A   10.0.0.84
backup  IN  A   10.0.0.102
ftp IN  CNAME   www
imapIN  CNAME   mail
pop IN  CNAME   mail
pop3IN  CNAME   mail
smtpIN  CNAME   mail
img IN  CNAME   www

*File: /var/cache/bind/kom.co.za.inv*

$ORIGIN 0.0.10.in-addr.arpa.
$TTL 864000
@   IN  SOA ns1.kom.co.za.postmaster.kom.co.za. (
201105311   ; serial
3600; refresh
900 ; retry
1209600 ; expire
43200)  ; default_TTL

IN  NS  ns1.kom.co.za.
IN  NS  ns2.kom.co.za.

10.0.0.80.  IN  PTR ns1.kom.co.za.
10.0.0.82.  IN  PTR ns2.kom.co.za.
10.0.0.101. IN  PTR sql.kom.co.za.
10.0.0.102. IN  PTR backup.kom.co.za.





So please, let's concetrate in one service (dns server or http server or
> whatever you prefer) and now that your ISP has configured the routes to
> point to your local server you can start with your setup. So choose one
> service, configure it and put here any problems you have with that.
>
> When I tried to update kom.co.za domain from  co.za. administrator domain,
I received this errors:

Syntax/Cross-Checking provided info for Nameserver at 6a: ns1.kom.co.za @
41.134.19.90
IPv4: 41.134.19.90 ==> 41-134-19-90.dsl.

Re: k3b can't burn audio CD, got a few coasters today

On 12/06/11 11:01, H.S. wrote:
> On 11/06/11 07:52 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>> On Sat, 2011-06-11 at 19:37 -0400, H.S. wrote:
>>> On 11/06/11 07:21 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote:
 On 12/06/11 08:48, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> Sorry, I can't help you, but perhaps there's a better way to eject a CD.

> 
> So, doesn't look like hal is playing any role anymore, much to my surprise.
> 

Don't worry about it.
As stated earlier no mounting is involved. It's unlikely HAL, udev, or
dbus is a factor in the problem (based on the adequate information
you've given)

For the following suggestions try using a single 16-bit WAV file - this
will make testing quicker, and, hopefully, remove the chance that the
error is occurring during the "convert to WAV process" or TOC creation.
Let me know if you'd like me to direct email you a WAV file.

Does Nautilus have an option allowing you to create an audio CD image file?
If so try it. (let's try and isolate the CD/DVD drive from the list of
factors)
If not,try burning another audio CD (from you dwindling stack of blanks)
using Nautilus.

Try setting K3b to the lowest speed and burn an image only,without cd
text enabled.

I see a couple of weird things in your K3b log:-
Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid)
(and as noted by tv.debian) the fifo error - which shows the failure is
very early in the audio cd creation process. Follow his (sic)
suggestions - I'll have a read of your reply.

I'm reasonably certain it's not a permissions or group membership problem.

Cheers

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Re: skype-debian_2.2.0.35-1_amd64.deb

2011-06-12 Thread Johan Grönqvist


2011-06-12 11:10, Mathieu Malaterre skrev:

  skype depends on lib32stdc++6 (>= 4.1.1-21)
Why put amd64 in the name then...


Because it is a package for the amd64 architecture of debian. You could 
try installing the i386-package and see for yourself that it is less 
simple, and it would probably involve forcing dpkg to pretend that it is 
working on an i386 architecture, and you would have to make sure that 
you have the corresponding 32-bit libraries.


As Mathieu wrote, the fact that the actual binary is 32-bit is not a 
problem, as a 64-bit linux can run those. The problem with 32-bit 
packages is the availability of the supporting libraries, as the binary 
tries to load 32-bit versions of the libraries it needs. As the skype 
package is packaged for the amd64-architecture, its dependencies can be 
resolved by apt running on a 64-bit system.


(I believe the solutions to such issues will come when the "multiarch" 
release-goal is fully implemented in debian.)


Hope it helps.

/ johan



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Re: skype-debian_2.2.0.35-1_amd64.deb

On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 11:10:25 +0200, Mathieu Malaterre wrote:

> $ sudo dpkg -i skype-debian_2.2.0.35-1_amd64.deb Selecting previously
> deselected package skype. (Reading database ... 120513 files and
> directories currently installed.) Unpacking skype (from
> skype-debian_2.2.0.35-1_amd64.deb) ... dpkg: dependency problems prevent
> configuration of skype:
>  skype depends on lib32stdc++6 (>= 4.1.1-21); however:
>   Package lib32stdc++6 is not installed.
> ...
> 
> Why put amd64 in the name then...

That "amd64" can be misleading.

If you download the .deb and look at the INFO file, you'll see:

***
(...)
Architecture: amd64
Depends: lib32stdc++6 (>= 4.1.1-21), lib32asound2 (>> 1.0.14), ia32-libs, 
libc6-i386 (>= 2.7-1), lib32gcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1-21+ia32.libs.1.19), ia32-
libs-gtk
***

It's not a pure 64-bits package, it depends on a bunch of 32-bits compat 
libraries.

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Re: Huawei e122 - how to make symlink to usb modem?

On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 06:55:45 +0200, Kamil Jońca wrote:

> I have e122 modem. I would have symlink to /dev/ttyUSBX. (modem device)
> But simple rule:
> 
> --8<---cut here---start->8---
> SUBSYSTEM=="tty",ATTRS{idVendor} == "12d1" , ATTRS{idProduct} == "1003",  
> SYMLINK+="e122" 
> --8<---cut here---end--->8---
> 
> does not work.
> WWhen I get rid of 'SUBSYSTEM=="tty"' symlink is created, but points to
> sdX device.
> 
> Any ideas?

What's the output for udevinfo on that device?

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Re: No sound in Totem

On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 13:07:00 +0200, Mark Panen wrote:

> Well after a bit of googling i give up.
> 
> My volume control in totem is greyed out and i get no sound only the
> video plays.

Do you get any error when totem is launched from command line?
 
> I have sound in vlc no problem.
> 
> I am using KDE if that helps.

Are you running KDE? Then, being totem a GNOME app, I could suspect on 
pulseaudio or gstreamer :-?

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Re: k3b can't burn audio CD, got a few coasters today

2011-06-12 Thread Philipp Überbacher

Excerpts from H.S.'s message of 2011-06-12 00:12:04 +0200:
> Hello.
> 
> I have experienced this problem on and off for the past several months.
> But today it was the worst case. I am trying to burn a bunch of mp3
> files to make an audio CD using k3b. I was able to so do for the first
> one after burning only a single coaster. The second one is still not
> done and I already have wasted 5 discs in the process.
> 
> When I click 'burn' in k3b, it starts to do its stuff but after a while
> it errors out. However, the disc still keeps spinning, the drive has its
> activity light blinking and I cannot eject the disk. Either I have to
> use a paper pin in the optical drive's eject hole (which makes quite a
> bit of racket due to the spinning disc) or I have to shut down the
> computer, power it off, and start it again.
> 
> I have the following installed:
> ii  k3b2.0.2-2
> ii  k3b-data   2.0.2-2
> 
> Can somebody suggest what is going on here?
> 
> The permissions for my optical drive are:
> $ ls -l /dev/dvd*
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 Jun 11 16:36 /dev/dvd -> sr0
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 Jun 11 16:36 /dev/dvdrw -> sr0
> $ ls -al /dev/sr0
> brw-rw+ 1 root cdrom 11, 0 Jun 11 16:36 /dev/sr0
> 
> and do belong to 'cdrom' group.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> PS:
> The error that k3b gives me is the following:
> --
> Devices
> ---
> TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S223C SB02 (/dev/sr0, CD-R, CD-RW, CD-ROM, DVD-ROM,
> DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD-R DL, DVD+R, DVD+RW, DVD+R DL) [DVD-ROM, DVD-R
> Sequential, DVD-R Dual Layer Sequential, DVD-R Dual Layer Jump, DVD-RAM,
> DVD-RW Restricted Overwrite, DVD-RW Sequential, DVD+RW, DVD+R, DVD+R
> Dual Layer, CD-ROM, CD-R, CD-RW] [SAO, TAO, RAW, SAO/R96P, SAO/R96R,
> RAW/R16, RAW/R96P, RAW/R96R, Restricted Overwrite, Layer Jump] [%7]
> 
> System
> ---
> K3b Version: 2.0.2
> KDE Version: 4.6.3 (4.6.3)
> QT Version:  4.7.3
> Kernel:  2.6.38-2-amd64
> 
> Used versions
> ---
> cdrecord: 1.1.11
> 
> cdrecord
> ---
> /usr/bin/wodim: Operation not permitted. Warning: Cannot raise
> RLIMIT_MEMLOCK limits.
> scsidev: '/dev/sr0'
> devname: '/dev/sr0'
> scsibus: -2 target: -2 lun: -2
> Linux sg driver version: 3.5.27
> Wodim version: 1.1.11
> SCSI buffer size: 64512
> Beginning DMA speed test. Set CDR_NODMATEST environment variable if device
> communication breaks or freezes immediately after that.
> Text len: 396
> TOC Type: 0 = CD-DA
> Driveropts: 'burnfree'
> Device type: Removable CD-ROM
> Version: 5
> Response Format: 2
> Capabilities   :
> Vendor_info: 'TSSTcorp'
> Identification : 'CDDVDW SH-S223C '
> Revision   : 'SB02'
> Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-R/DVD-RW.
> Current: 0x0009 (CD-R)
> Profile: 0x002B (DVD+R/DL)
> Profile: 0x001B (DVD+R)
> Profile: 0x001A (DVD+RW)
> Profile: 0x0016 (DVD-R/DL layer jump recording)
> Profile: 0x0015 (DVD-R/DL sequential recording)
> Profile: 0x0014 (DVD-RW sequential recording)
> Profile: 0x0013 (DVD-RW restricted overwrite)
> Profile: 0x0012 (DVD-RAM)
> Profile: 0x0011 (DVD-R sequential recording)
> Profile: 0x0010 (DVD-ROM)
> Profile: 0x000A (CD-RW)
> Profile: 0x0009 (CD-R) (current)
> Profile: 0x0008 (CD-ROM)
> Profile: 0x0002 (Removable disk)
> Using generic SCSI-3/mmc   CD-R/CD-RW driver (mmc_cdr).
> Driver flags   : MMC-3 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE
> Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96P SAO/R96R RAW/R16 RAW/R96P RAW/R96R
> Drive buf size : 720896 = 704 KB
> FIFO size  : 12582912 = 12288 KB
> Speed set to 8467 KB/s
> pregap1: -1
> Track 01: audio   45 MB (04:28.02) no preemp swab copy
> Track 02: audio   42 MB (04:11.90) no preemp swab copy
> Track 03: audio   58 MB (05:50.54) no preemp swab copy
> Track 04: audio   41 MB (04:04.22) no preemp swab copy
> Track 05: audio   54 MB (05:23.50) no preemp swab copy
> Track 06: audio   34 MB (03:24.17) no preemp swab copy
> Total size:  276 MB (27:22.38) = 123179 sectors
> Lout start:  276 MB (27:24/29) = 123179 sectors
> Current Secsize: 2048
> ATIP info from disk:
>   Indicated writing power: 4
>   Is not unrestricted
>   Is not erasable
>   Disk sub type: Medium Type A, low Beta category (A-) (2)
>   ATIP start of lead in:  -12508 (97:15/17)
>   ATIP start of lead out: 359845 (79:59/70)
> Disk type:Short strategy type (Phthalocyanine or similar)
> Manuf. index: 22
> Manufacturer: Ritek Co.
> Blocks total: 359845 Blocks current: 359845 Blocks remaining: 23
> Starting to write CD/DVD at speed  48.0 in real SAO mode for single session.
> Last chance to quit, starting real write in2 seconds.
>1 seconds.
>0 seconds. Operation starts.
> Waiting for reader process to fill input buffer ... input buffer ready.
> Performing OPC...
> Sending CUE sheet...
> Errno: 5 (Input/output error), write_g1 scsi sendcmd: no error
> CDB:  2A 00 FF FF FE 52 00 01 18 00
> status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION)
> Sense Bytes: 72 0B 00 00 00 00 00 0E 09 0C 00 34 00 0

Re: Linux for humans that differ to averaged people was - Re: Subscription [OT]

On 12/06/11 20:46, Lisi wrote:
> On Saturday 11 June 2011 16:42:12 Scott Ferguson wrote:
>>> On Sat, 2011-06-11 at 10:27 +0100, Lisi wrote:
> [snipped]
 That is not sarcasm incidentally.  I would genuinely like to know how
 you can use braille to read things on the Internet.
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refreshable_Braille_display
>>
>>
>> Literally interpreting your question
>> (I used to build machines for people with vision problems)
> 
> Thanks, Scott. :-)
> 
> I meant it literally.  I had never come across or heard of a tactile computer 
> display.

The nicest one I ever saw was an image display - a beautifully crafted
Huon timber box with a tight grid of holes in the top. Each hole has a
stainless steel rod sitting in it - each rod can be raised and lowered
by a small drive - at rest they are flush with the top of the box, but
can be raised about 1cm. A screen display is scanned and converted to a
grayscale which is then analysed. The screen is "gridded" with blocks of
pixels represented by individual rods - the darker the colour of the
pixel block - the higher the rod is raised. The result is a 3D
representation of the screen image. Very cool and beautifully made. When
unpowered the rods sit flush with the surface of the box, making it easy
to clean.
The unit was completely designed by a blind person - including the
software! Build by a sighted person using parts from an old SCSCI
scanner and drives from a bunch of old, old, floppy disk drives (the
really floppy sort).

> 
> I am intrigued that they exist, but the RNIB (Royal National Institute for 
> Blind people) doesn't sell them and doesn't seem to know about them.
> 
> I have googled, but am clearly asking the wrong question.
> 
> Scratch that!  I have tried again with Scott's search parameter and have 
> finally found them mentioned on the RNIB site.  But they are, as you say, 
> prohibitively expensive.  One is obviously not expected to want them, because 
> I had even searched the RNIB shop with "braille" and not found displays, only 
> inputs of various kinds.
> 
> There must be some multi-millionaires who are blind!!
> Lisi
> 
> 
Dunno about blind multi-millionaires - but selling JAWS must have made
more than a few millionaires.

Cheers

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Re: Linux for humans that differ to averaged people was - Re: Subscription [OT]

On 12/06/11 20:46, Lisi wrote:
> On Saturday 11 June 2011 16:42:12 Scott Ferguson wrote:
>>> On Sat, 2011-06-11 at 10:27 +0100, Lisi wrote:
> [snipped]
 That is not sarcasm incidentally.  I would genuinely like to know how
 you can use braille to read things on the Internet.
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refreshable_Braille_display
>>
>>
>> Literally interpreting your question
>> (I used to build machines for people with vision problems)
> 
> Thanks, Scott. :-)
> 
> I meant it literally.  I had never come across or heard of a tactile computer 
> display.

The nicest one I ever saw was an image display - a beautifully crafted
Huon timber box with a tight grid of holes in the top. Each hole has a
stainless steel rod sitting in it - each rod can be raised and lowered
by a small drive - at rest they are flush with the top of the box, but
can be raised about 1cm. A screen display is scanned and converted to a
grayscale which is then analysed. The screen is "gridded" with blocks of
pixels represented by individual rods - the darker the colour of the
pixel block - the higher the rod is raised. The result is a 3D
representation of the screen image. Very cool and beautifully made. When
unpowered the rods sit flush with the surface of the box, making it easy
to clean.
The unit was completely designed by a blind person - including the
software! Build by a sighted person using parts from an old SCSCI
scanner and drives from a bunch of old, old, floppy disk drives (the
really floppy sort).

> 
> I am intrigued that they exist, but the RNIB (Royal National Institute for 
> Blind people) doesn't sell them and doesn't seem to know about them.
> 
> I have googled, but am clearly asking the wrong question.
> 
> Scratch that!  I have tried again with Scott's search parameter and have 
> finally found them mentioned on the RNIB site.  But they are, as you say, 
> prohibitively expensive.  One is obviously not expected to want them, because 
> I had even searched the RNIB shop with "braille" and not found displays, only 
> inputs of various kinds.
> 
> There must be some multi-millionaires who are blind!!
> Lisi
> 
> 
Dunno about blind multi-millionaires - but selling JAWS must have made
more than a few millionaires.

Cheers

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Re: aptitude/apt-get hangs during update (plus) on IPv6

2011-06-12 Thread Pascal Hambourg

Rick Thomas a écrit :
> 
> My point is that by setting your MTU to 1280, you have done *your*  
> part.

By doing that you have just used a side effect of the MTU as a
workaround to hide the problem originating at the other end, for TCP
connections only. Nothing has been fixed.

>  At least you can be assured that all your packets will get thru  
> without fragmentation,

Setting the MTU to the minimum value does not prevent fragmentation.
Datagrams bigger that the path MTU will still need to be fragmented, and
the lower you set the MTU, the more frequently fragmentation will happen.

> If the host on the other end sets its MTU to something larger and an  
> intervening router doesn't do fragmentation

IPv6 routers don't do fragmentation. Fragmentation is done by the
sending host only. Intermediate routers must only generate ICMPv6
"packet too big" messages. That is similar to IPv4 when packets have the
DF flag set. Anything that drops or ignore those ICMPv6 messages will
break the path MTU discovery.


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Re: Set Up a server using Public IP Addresses on debian

On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 13:17:06 +0200, Christian Simo wrote:

> On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 3:08 PM, Camaleón  wrote:

(...)

>> I dunno how can we help you if we don't know what is your network
>> layout, what routers/gateways/modems do you have configured at your
>> site and what tests are you doing right know.
>>
> The routers is a Cisco provide by my ISP  and I got 4 switch   D-LINK
> on the network.

Okay, so the only adsl gateway is the Cisco, that is controlled by your 
ISP.

> I said before, I planed to have two DNS server one as primary on
> 10.0.0.80 and another as slave on 10.0.0.82
> 
> my router IP is 41.134.19.89, 10.0.0.80 pointing on 41.134.19.90 with
> port 53 open and 10.0.0.82 pointing on 41.134.19.91 with ports 53 and 80
> open.
> 
> See below my primary DNS configuration:

(...)

> When I tried to update kom.co.za domain from  co.za. administrator
> domain, I received this errors:
> 
> Syntax/Cross-Checking provided info for Nameserver at 6a: ns1.kom.co.za
> @ 41.134.19.90
> IPv4: 41.134.19.90 ==> 41-134-19-90.dsl.mweb.co.za. FQDN: ns1.kom.co.za
> ==>
> ERROR: Checking field 6a and running a Reverse check. "ns1.kom.co.za"
> not found in "41-134-19-90.dsl.mweb.co.za."
>
> ! Whilst checking field 6a on the application form and whilst running a
> Reverse check...
> ! you specified that "41.134.19.90" would map to "ns1.kom.co.za", ! but
> DNS returned "41-134-19-90.dsl.mweb.co.za."

What application is giving you that error?

It seems like a problem with your assigned IPs and reverve dns resolution 
(rDNS) that points to your domain name.

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Re: Linux for humans that differ to averaged people was - Re: Subscription

On Sun, 2011-06-12 at 11:46 +0100, Lisi wrote:
> There must be some multi-millionaires who are blind!!

It's new technology, not really for the masses. In 100 years and perhaps
earlier it could be less expensive or completely removed from the
market, hence http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cochlear_implant in Germany
already is wide spread for the masses and similar technology for the
eyes already is existing in an experimental state.

Regards,

Ralf


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Re: Set Up a server using Public IP Addresses on debian

2011-06-12 Thread Christian Simo

On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Camaleón  wrote:

> On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 13:17:06 +0200, Christian Simo wrote:
>
> > On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 3:08 PM, Camaleón  wrote:
>
> (...)
>
> >> I dunno how can we help you if we don't know what is your network
> >> layout, what routers/gateways/modems do you have configured at your
> >> site and what tests are you doing right know.
> >>
> > The routers is a Cisco provide by my ISP  and I got 4 switch   D-LINK
> > on the network.
>
> Okay, so the only adsl gateway is the Cisco, that is controlled by your
> ISP.
>
> Yeah!


> > I said before, I planed to have two DNS server one as primary on
> > 10.0.0.80 and another as slave on 10.0.0.82
> >
> > my router IP is 41.134.19.89, 10.0.0.80 pointing on 41.134.19.90 with
> > port 53 open and 10.0.0.82 pointing on 41.134.19.91 with ports 53 and 80
> > open.
> >
> > See below my primary DNS configuration:
>
> (...)
>
> > When I tried to update kom.co.za domain from  co.za. administrator
> > domain, I received this errors:
> >
> > Syntax/Cross-Checking provided info for Nameserver at 6a: ns1.kom.co.za
> > @ 41.134.19.90
> > IPv4: 41.134.19.90 ==> 41-134-19-90.dsl.mweb.co.za. FQDN: ns1.kom.co.za
> > ==>
> > ERROR: Checking field 6a and running a Reverse check. "ns1.kom.co.za"
> > not found in "41-134-19-90.dsl.mweb.co.za."
> >
> > ! Whilst checking field 6a on the application form and whilst running a
> > Reverse check...
> > ! you specified that "41.134.19.90" would map to "ns1.kom.co.za", ! but
> > DNS returned "41-134-19-90.dsl.mweb.co.za."
>
> What application is giving you that error?
>
> There is not application that giving me the problem, it's a *.CO.ZA Domain
registrations  *http://www.coza.net.za

when I tried to update the domain kom.co.za, their (A .CO.ZA Domain
registry) server sent me an Invalid Nameserver errors

Telling that my name server (n1.kom.co.za and n2.kom.co.za) that I indicated
as a Primary and Slave servers FQDN are not pointing on 41.134.19.90 and
41.134.19.91 but pointing on "41-134-19-90.dsl.mweb.co.za" and "
41-134-19-91.dsl.mweb.co.za "

I even emailed to my ISP the errors and still waiting for their responses.

what make me so strange is that I never login on the Cisco router to really
see how the configuration looks.

is it something's wrong with my Debian machine configurations?



> It seems like a problem with your assigned IPs and reverve dns resolution
> (rDNS) that points to your domain name.
>
> Greetings,
>
> --
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Re: Is there any valid reason to add an idiotic script to /etc/init.d by an default Debian install that only cause a PITA?

On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 12:23:16 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

(not sure if this post was targeted to this mailing list...)

(...)

> anyway, this is idiocy, hence the default can be set by the kernel. For
> the kernel-generic-default-office-non-real-time a distro could chose
> 'ondemand'. This script is nonsense and only cause that once a month
> somebody send a request regarding to xruns when using jackd.

What's the problem here? What kind of annoyance are you having with that 
script? I find it very convenient, it allows you to:

1/ Completely remove/disable it from starting in an easy manner
2/ Tweaking the cpu scaling without much headache

What more do you need? :-)

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After the Libc6 Fiasco

2011-06-12 Thread David Baron

Luckily, using the live-CD, I was able to download and re-install the 
"testing" packages for libc6 and friends and finally get my system working 
again.

OK:
1. Unstable can sometimes get broken. I accept that.
2. However, libc6 stuff is so critical that any upgrade posted must be 
installable and operational. Some folks might not recover.

OK, now much of the x-windows related packages are dependent on the latest 
libc6 stuff on Sid. As I found out, mixing this stuff will crash X.

Since the current packages only partially installed last attempt, I am afraid 
to upgrade any of this now. What is the status in reality?

Re: Set Up a server using Public IP Addresses on debian

On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 15:32:09 +0200, Christian Simo wrote:

> On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Camaleón  wrote:

>> > ! Whilst checking field 6a on the application form and whilst running
>> > a Reverse check...
>> > ! you specified that "41.134.19.90" would map to "ns1.kom.co.za", !
>> > but DNS returned "41-134-19-90.dsl.mweb.co.za."
>>
>> What application is giving you that error?
>>
> There is not application that giving me the problem, it's a *.CO.ZA
> Domain registrations  *http://www.coza.net.za

Uh? You mean the domain name registrar?

> when I tried to update the domain kom.co.za, their (A .CO.ZA Domain
> registry) server sent me an Invalid Nameserver errors
> 
> Telling that my name server (n1.kom.co.za and n2.kom.co.za) that I
> indicated as a Primary and Slave servers FQDN are not pointing on
> 41.134.19.90 and 41.134.19.91 but pointing on
> "41-134-19-90.dsl.mweb.co.za" and " 41-134-19-91.dsl.mweb.co.za
> "
> 
> I even emailed to my ISP the errors and still waiting for their
> responses.

I'm afraid you will have to wait for their response. Or forget about this 
setup and try with another one (e.g., use an external free DNS service to 
resolve your domain, like DynDNS or such).

If I correctly read the error message, your registrar needs that you 
domain name (n1.kom.co.za) is properly configured by the owner of the 
IPs, that is, your ISP.

> what make me so strange is that I never login on the Cisco router to
> really see how the configuration looks.

That's not the usual setup in many countries and having the control of 
your router is very useful as you don't need to wait a response from your 
ISP for every change you want to do.

> is it something's wrong with my Debian machine configurations?

Dunno, but one thing for sure: this is a complex setup.

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Re: Set Up a server using Public IP Addresses on debian

2011-06-12 Thread Christian Simo

On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Camaleón  wrote:

> On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 15:32:09 +0200, Christian Simo wrote:
>
> > On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Camaleón  wrote:
>
> >> > ! Whilst checking field 6a on the application form and whilst running
> >> > a Reverse check...
> >> > ! you specified that "41.134.19.90" would map to "ns1.kom.co.za", !
> >> > but DNS returned "41-134-19-90.dsl.mweb.co.za."
> >>
> >> What application is giving you that error?
> >>
> > There is not application that giving me the problem, it's a *.CO.ZA
> > Domain registrations  *http://www.coza.net.za
>
> Uh? You mean the domain name registrar?
>
> Yeah!


> > when I tried to update the domain kom.co.za, their (A .CO.ZA Domain
> > registry) server sent me an Invalid Nameserver errors
> >
> > Telling that my name server (n1.kom.co.za and n2.kom.co.za) that I
> > indicated as a Primary and Slave servers FQDN are not pointing on
> > 41.134.19.90 and 41.134.19.91 but pointing on
> > "41-134-19-90.dsl.mweb.co.za" and " 41-134-19-91.dsl.mweb.co.za
> > "
> >
> > I even emailed to my ISP the errors and still waiting for their
> > responses.
>
> I'm afraid you will have to wait for their response. Or forget about this
> setup and try with another one (e.g., use an external free DNS service to
> resolve your domain, like DynDNS or such).
>
>  On Monday, If not yet response, I much resend the mails to them, Before
decide to switch to the external DNS services.


> If I correctly read the error message, your registrar needs that you
> domain name (n1.kom.co.za) is properly configured by the owner of the
> IPs, that is, your ISP.
>
> > what make me so strange is that I never login on the Cisco router to
> > really see how the configuration looks.
>
> That's not the usual setup in many countries and having the control of
> your router is very useful as you don't need to wait a response from your
> ISP for every change you want to do.
>
> I don't know why there are doing like that,  I has been waiting for their
response since yesterday,
the thing that I know now is that the IPs 41.134.19.90 and 41.134.19.91 are
pointing to their  hostnames

> is it something's wrong with my Debian machine configurations?
>
> Dunno, but one thing for sure: this is a complex setup.
>
I know!

>
>
Greetings,
>
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Re: Sony Vaio VPC EE47FB Moved from Squeeze to Sid to get touchpad working

On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 14:49:17 -0300, Leonardo Ruoso wrote:

> I installed Squeeze amd64 on a Sony Vaio VPC-EE47FB and got a non
> working touchpad.

Looks like this:

Synaptics Touchpad Drivers Don't work on New Laptop 
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=64721

> Before trying anything else I upgraded to sid and everything worked
> OOTB.

A new kernel or Xorg packages can make a difference.

> I use sid anyway (just used a squeeze dvd to install the system), but I
> think new laptop owners are somewhat forced to do that to get it
> working.

Did you open a bug report? By doing so there is still a chance to get the 
problem solved by an upcoming Squeeze update...

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Re: icedove/yahoo imap: messages marked as read & filters not run on inbox

2011-06-12 Thread Chris Davies

Nicolas Bercher  wrote:
> Maybe the pop3 side config in fetching e-mails, leaving them on the 
> server, etc. has an effect on the imap side.

I should expect that reading a message with POP would indeed mark it as
read for the IMAP presentation. IMO this would be correct behaviour, and
the corollary is that you shouldn't mix and match your email protocols.

Chris

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Re: gnome sensors applet: which is which ?

2011-06-12 Thread Joao Ferreira Gmail

On Sat, 2011-06-11 at 09:50 +, Camaleón wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 20:21:34 +0100, Joao Ferreira Gmail wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 2011-06-09 at 18:46 +, Camaleón wrote:
> >> > which is which ? CPU ? Motherboard ?
> >> 
> >> Most probably the CPU, as Brian pointed out (there should be an icon
> >> identifiying the item)
> > 
> > both icons are identical !!!
> 
> And what do they represent? A CPU chip?

yes. seems to be some sort of chip. a CPU I'dd say, yes.

> 
> >> but 74°C and 95°C -being Celsius- are a bit high values for whatever
> >> they meassure (even for a laptop). From what source (s) does
> >> "sensors-applet" gather the data?
> > 
> > I don't know. but the following should help... I hope it does :)
> > 
> > root@wheejy:/# sensors-detect
> > No i2c device files found.
> 
> This doesn't look good. 
> 
> Ah, it's a solved bug, at least if you are running wheezy/sid:
> 
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=628228
>  
> > root@wheejy:/# sensors
> > acpitz-virtual-0
> > Adapter: Virtual device
> > temp1:+57.5°C  (crit = +126.0°C)
> 
> This looks like the CPU sensor. It is still a bit high but dependending 
> on the CPU model it could be in the safe range.

this is a DELL Latitude D620 laptop. It's a 2 core.

processor   : 0
vendor_id   : GenuineIntel
cpu family  : 6
model   : 15
model name  : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T5500  @ 1.66GHz
stepping: 6
cpu MHz : 1000.000
cache size  : 2048 KB

thx a lot for the pointers :)

Joao



>  
> > nouveau-pci-0100
> > Adapter: PCI adapter
> > temp1:+79.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +110.0°C)
> 
> Ah, this seems your VGA card's sensor.
>  
> > I can add that these 2 values (79 and 57) are actually the ones
> > displayed by the applet. both the "sensors" and "sensors-detect"
> > programs are part of the "lm-sensors" package.
> > 
> > Can you guys make some sense out of these informations ?
> 
> Yep. They now make more sense. But take an eye to the CPU temp, it should 
> not exceed its limits (neither 74°C nor 95°C are good numbers).
> 
> Is this a notebook? Notebooks CPUs tend to be more heat and they support 
> higher values for T junction.
> 
> Greetings,
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Re: After the Libc6 Fiasco

2011-06-12 Thread Jochen Schulz

David Baron:
>
> Luckily, using the live-CD, I was able to download and re-install the 
> "testing" packages for libc6 and friends and finally get my system working 
> again.

What problem are you referring to? The breakage from the missing
symlinks on amd64? That issue has been fixed some weeks ago.

> OK:
> 1. Unstable can sometimes get broken. I accept that.
> 2. However, libc6 stuff is so critical that any upgrade posted must be 
> installable and operational. Some folks might not recover.

Then they shouldn't run unstable. :)

> Since the current packages only partially installed last attempt, I am afraid 
> to upgrade any of this now. What is the status in reality?

Works for me (on amd64). What's your specific problem? Which version are
you on, which do you try to install and how does it fail?

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HP DL180 with P212 SAS controller

2011-06-12 Thread owl...@gmail.com

Hi, I have proposed an HP DL180 with P212 SAS controller that seems
supported by debian, but I doubt controller

I wanted to know if anyone has tried it and had no problems with that
controller and Squeeze

http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF06a/15351-15351-3328412-241644-3328421-3884339.html

Thanks


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Re: Huawei e122 - how to make symlink to usb modem?

2011-06-12 Thread Kamil Jońca

Camaleón  writes:

> On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 06:55:45 +0200, Kamil Jońca wrote:
>
>> I have e122 modem. I would have symlink to /dev/ttyUSBX. (modem device)
>> But simple rule:
>> 
>> --8<---cut here---start->8---
>> SUBSYSTEM=="tty",ATTRS{idVendor} == "12d1" , ATTRS{idProduct} == "1003",  
>> SYMLINK+="e122" 
>> --8<---cut here---end--->8---
>> 
>> does not work.
>> WWhen I get rid of 'SUBSYSTEM=="tty"' symlink is created, but points to
>> sdX device.
>> 
>> Any ideas?
>
> What's the output for udevinfo on that device?
>
> Greetings,
--8<---cut here---start->8---
custom logging function 0x7f28b0658010 registered
selinux=0
runtime dir '/dev/.udev'
calling: info
device 0x7f28b065a4c0 has devpath 
'/devices/pci:00/:00:02.1/usb1/1-10/1-10:1.0/ttyUSB0/tty/ttyUSB0'
device 0x7f28b0658530 has devpath 
'/devices/pci:00/:00:02.1/usb1/1-10/1-10:1.0/ttyUSB0'
device 0x7f28b0658ad0 has devpath 
'/devices/pci:00/:00:02.1/usb1/1-10/1-10:1.0'
device 0x7f28b06596d0 has devpath '/devices/pci:00/:00:02.1/usb1/1-10'
device 0x7f28b065ba00 has devpath '/devices/pci:00/:00:02.1/usb1'
device 0x7f28b065d780 has devpath '/devices/pci:00/:00:02.1'
device 0x7f28b065ecb0 has devpath '/devices/pci:00'

Udevadm info starts with the device specified by the devpath and then
walks up the chain of parent devices. It prints for every device
found, all possible attributes in the udev rules key format.
A rule to match, can be composed by the attributes of the device
and the attributes from one single parent device.

  looking at device 
'/devices/pci:00/:00:02.1/usb1/1-10/1-10:1.0/ttyUSB0/tty/ttyUSB0':
KERNEL=="ttyUSB0"
SUBSYSTEM=="tty"
DRIVER==""

  looking at parent device 
'/devices/pci:00/:00:02.1/usb1/1-10/1-10:1.0/ttyUSB0':
KERNELS=="ttyUSB0"
SUBSYSTEMS=="usb-serial"
DRIVERS=="option1"
ATTRS{port_number}=="0"

  looking at parent device 
'/devices/pci:00/:00:02.1/usb1/1-10/1-10:1.0':
KERNELS=="1-10:1.0"
SUBSYSTEMS=="usb"
DRIVERS=="option"
ATTRS{bInterfaceNumber}=="00"
ATTRS{bAlternateSetting}==" 0"
ATTRS{bNumEndpoints}=="03"
ATTRS{bInterfaceClass}=="ff"
ATTRS{bInterfaceSubClass}=="ff"
ATTRS{bInterfaceProtocol}=="ff"
ATTRS{supports_autosuspend}=="1"
ATTRS{interface}=="3G Modem"

  looking at parent device '/devices/pci:00/:00:02.1/usb1/1-10':
KERNELS=="1-10"
SUBSYSTEMS=="usb"
DRIVERS=="usb"
ATTRS{configuration}==""
ATTRS{bNumInterfaces}==" 4"
ATTRS{bConfigurationValue}=="1"
ATTRS{bmAttributes}=="80"
ATTRS{bMaxPower}=="500mA"
ATTRS{urbnum}=="239"
ATTRS{idVendor}=="12d1"
ATTRS{idProduct}=="1003"
ATTRS{bcdDevice}==""
ATTRS{bDeviceClass}=="00"
ATTRS{bDeviceSubClass}=="00"
ATTRS{bDeviceProtocol}=="00"
ATTRS{bNumConfigurations}=="1"
ATTRS{bMaxPacketSize0}=="64"
ATTRS{speed}=="480"
ATTRS{busnum}=="1"
ATTRS{devnum}=="41"
ATTRS{devpath}=="10"
ATTRS{version}==" 2.00"
ATTRS{maxchild}=="0"
ATTRS{quirks}=="0x0"
ATTRS{avoid_reset_quirk}=="0"
ATTRS{authorized}=="1"
ATTRS{manufacturer}=="HUA WEI"
ATTRS{product}=="Huawei Mobile"

  looking at parent device '/devices/pci:00/:00:02.1/usb1':
KERNELS=="usb1"
SUBSYSTEMS=="usb"
DRIVERS=="usb"
ATTRS{configuration}==""
ATTRS{bNumInterfaces}==" 1"
ATTRS{bConfigurationValue}=="1"
ATTRS{bmAttributes}=="e0"
ATTRS{bMaxPower}=="  0mA"
ATTRS{urbnum}=="989"
ATTRS{idVendor}=="1d6b"
ATTRS{idProduct}=="0002"
ATTRS{bcdDevice}=="0206"
ATTRS{bDeviceClass}=="09"
ATTRS{bDeviceSubClass}=="00"
ATTRS{bDeviceProtocol}=="00"
ATTRS{bNumConfigurations}=="1"
ATTRS{bMaxPacketSize0}=="64"
ATTRS{speed}=="480"
ATTRS{busnum}=="1"
ATTRS{devnum}=="1"
ATTRS{devpath}=="0"
ATTRS{version}==" 2.00"
ATTRS{maxchild}=="10"
ATTRS{quirks}=="0x0"
ATTRS{avoid_reset_quirk}=="0"
ATTRS{authorized}=="1"
ATTRS{manufacturer}=="Linux 2.6.38+3-64 ehci_hcd"
ATTRS{product}=="EHCI Host Controller"
ATTRS{serial}==":00:02.1"
ATTRS{authorized_default}=="1"

  looking at parent device '/devices/pci:00/:00:02.1':
KERNELS==":00:02.1"
SUBSYSTEMS=="pci"
DRIVERS=="ehci_hcd"
ATTRS{vendor}=="0x10de"
ATTRS{device}=="0x005b"
ATTRS{subsystem_vendor}=="0x1043"
ATTRS{subsystem_device}=="0x815a"
ATTRS{class}=="0x0c0320"
ATTRS{irq}=="21"
ATTRS{local_cpus}=="1"
ATTRS{local_cpulist}=="0"
ATTRS{dma_mask_bits}=="32"
ATTRS{consistent_dma_mask_bits}=="31"
ATTRS{enable}=="1"
ATTRS{broken_parity_status}=="0"
ATTRS{msi_bus}==""
ATTRS{companion}==""

  looking at parent device '/devices/pci:00':
KERNELS=="pci:00"
SUBSYSTEMS==""
DRIVERS==""
--8<---cut here---end-

Re: HP DL180 with P212 SAS controller

On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 16:33:18 +0200, owl...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi, I have proposed an HP DL180 with P212 SAS controller that seems
> supported by debian, but I doubt controller
> 
> I wanted to know if anyone has tried it and had no problems with that
> controller and Squeeze
> 
> http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF06a/15351-15351-3328412-241644-3328421-3884339.html

Hum... there was a recent thread on this:

Squeeze (or higher) on HP DL180 G6
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2011/05/msg01829.html

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Re: Huawei e122 - how to make symlink to usb modem?

On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 16:14:53 +0200, Kamil Jońca wrote:

> Camaleón  writes:
> 
>> What's the output for udevinfo on that device?

(...)

> Udevadm info starts with the device specified by the devpath and then
> walks up the chain of parent devices. It prints for every device found,
> all possible attributes in the udev rules key format. A rule to match,
> can be composed by the attributes of the device and the attributes from
> one single parent device.

(...)

Okay... then according to this doc:

http://reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html#udevinfo

You can't mix attributes from different parent devices, so

SUBSYSTEM=="tty"

cannot go with

ATTRS{idVendor} == "12d1"

You may try with:

SUBSYSTEMS=="usb", ATTRS{idVendor}=="12d1", ATTRS{idProduct}=="1003", 
SYMLINK+="e122"

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Re: icedove/yahoo imap: messages marked as read & filters not run on inbox

On 12/06/2011 16:02, Chris Davies wrote:

Nicolas Bercher wrote:

Maybe the pop3 side config in fetching e-mails, leaving them on the
server, etc. has an effect on the imap side.

I should expect that reading a message with POP would indeed mark it as
read for the IMAP presentation. IMO this would be correct behaviour, and
the corollary is that you shouldn't mix and match your email protocols.

I'm trying many things at the moment.

First, I disabled the pop3 account in icedove, but this had no effect at all.

Second, I visited the yahoo webmail interface in order to turn off the pop3 access option.
Then, I sent dummy mails to my account and yes, they arrived as "unread messages", so
"issue 1" seems solved...

...but, the tricky thing is that I can't turn off the pop3 option WITHOUT setting up a
mail transfert...! This is really stupid: it is impossible to disable the two options at
the same time!
In order to continue my investigations, I created another yahoo mail account to receive
these mail transfers and see what happens. This is really annoying.

Nicolas

Note: the mail account that initially have issues is an old yahoo account (created in
1999) and is maybe not supported like the recent ones.
The new account I created today (and of course access via imap) seems to receive messages
as expected (i.e. "marked as unread") but server-side filters (i.e. defined via the
webmail interface) do not work when accessed via imap (it seems they work only with
webmail/pop3 "accesses").

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Re: icedove/yahoo imap: messages marked as read & filters not run on inbox

On 12/06/2011 16:02, Chris Davies wrote:

Nicolas Bercher wrote:

Maybe the pop3 side config in fetching e-mails, leaving them on the
server, etc. has an effect on the imap side.

I'm trying many things at the moment.

First, I disabled the pop3 account in icedove, but this had no effect at all.

Nicolas

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Re: HP DL180 with P212 SAS controller

2011-06-12 Thread owl...@gmail.com

I had seen that thread but i can't find any useful info

Il giorno 12/giu/2011 16.47, "Camaleón"  ha scritto:
>
> On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 16:33:18 +0200, owl...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > Hi, I have proposed an HP DL180 with P212 SAS controller that seems
> > supported by debian, but I doubt controller
> >
> > I wanted to know if anyone has tried it and had no problems with that
> > controller and Squeeze
> >
> >
http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF06a/15351-15351-3328412-241644-3328421-3884339.html
>
> Hum... there was a recent thread on this:
>
> Squeeze (or higher) on HP DL180 G6
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2011/05/msg01829.html
>
> Greetings,
>
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Re: broadcom

2011-06-12 Thread Volkan YAZICI

IMHO, you have two options:

1. Solve the issue by fixing the drivers supplied by the distribution.
   (As others have explained in the previous replies.)

2. Use new brcm80211[1] drivers. For this purpose, I'd make a custom
   kernel package (see make-kpkg) using the latest stable kernel
   sources, which bundle brcm80211 by default.


Best.

[1] http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/brcm80211

On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 15:32:00 +0200, steef writes:
> bought my self a hp mini-netbook, included windoze7 and a very strong accu, 10
> hours of life.
>
> i put sid on an usb-stick, included fluxbox and wicd(-curses).
>
> wifi = (lspci) brcm4313. (type 5.60.350.6)
>
> loaded/installed the according the debian broadcom-  (broadcom 43xx wireless
> drivers)  -wiki convenient driver_firmware. the driver should be included in 
> the
> sid_kernel, so i understood. however: this wifi_driver does not work.
>
> my questions: what did i do wrong if anything (1) ?
>
> and
>
> broadcom assued a so-called xxx-STA driver (by google) somebody with some
> experience with this brcm4313 driver for linux (tar.gz) does this one work for
> my mini_netbook (2) ?
>
> if i find a working driver i can get rid of w7.


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Re: Is there any valid reason to add an idiotic script to /etc/init.d by an default Debian install that only cause a PITA?

On Sun, 2011-06-12 at 13:35 +, Camaleón wrote:
> On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 12:23:16 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> 
> (not sure if this post was targeted to this mailing list...)
> 
> (...)
> 
> > anyway, this is idiocy, hence the default can be set by the kernel. For
> > the kernel-generic-default-office-non-real-time a distro could chose
> > 'ondemand'. This script is nonsense and only cause that once a month
> > somebody send a request regarding to xruns when using jackd.
> 
> What's the problem here? What kind of annoyance are you having with that 
> script? I find it very convenient, it allows you to:
> 
> 1/ Completely remove/disable it from starting in an easy manner
> 2/ Tweaking the cpu scaling without much headache
> 
> What more do you need? :-)
> 
> Greetings,


- This can be done without this script. What is the kernel config for?
- Inexperienced people get 'mysterious' xruns using jackd.
- Inexperienced people willing to 'read the [fine] manual' anyway don't
  know what they need to read, especially when thy think jackd is buggy.
- I run audio sessions by shell scripts, hence I can set the governor to
  performance, while it's ok when it's set to ondemand for non-audio
  usage.
- Why not making a Debian that OOTB fit to most needs, even for people
  who don't wish to read [fine] manuals and to learn how to program.
- When I get a knife, I know how to use it, but I don't know how to make
  a knife and I don't want to learn how to make a knife, it should be
  already edged. I won't RTFM about knives.

2 Cents,

Ralf



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Re: Proper Use of adduser.conf

2011-06-12 Thread mark

On Thursday 09 June 2011 04:13:27 pm Martin McCormick wrote:
>   We have set up a backup server and the samba share
> accounts we have on the system need to be in a file system that
> is very large so I modified /etc/adduser.conf to put them in as
> follows:
>
> # The DHOME variable specifies the directory containing users' home
> # directories.
> DHOME=/srv/backups
>
>   When I ran adduser, it appeared to work and placed the
> home directory in /srv/backups but if you su - testuser, it
> complains that there is no home directory.
>
>   The rest of the adduser.conf file is left as is.
>
>   Is there a way to make these accounts work normally even
> though they are in a different file system?
>
> Thank you.

How about adding a link in /home to /srv/backups as a part of the 
adduser script?

Mark


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Re: Is there any valid reason to add an idiotic script to /etc/init.d by an default Debian install that only cause a PITA?

2011-06-12 Thread Tom H

On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Ralf Mardorf
 wrote:
>
> - Why not making a Debian that OOTB fit to most needs, even for people
>  who don't wish to read [fine] manuals and to learn how to program.

Maybe the developers decided that the current setting's the one that
fits most needs.

If you feel this strongly, perhaps you could contact the developers -
but calling their decision idiotic isn't the best way forward (I'd
certainly ignore any email that you'd send me!).

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Re: Huawei e122 - how to make symlink to usb modem?

2011-06-12 Thread Kamil Jońca

Camaleón  writes:

> On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 16:14:53 +0200, Kamil Jońca wrote:
>
>> Camaleón  writes:
>> 
>>> What's the output for udevinfo on that device?
>
> (...)
>
>> Udevadm info starts with the device specified by the devpath and then
>> walks up the chain of parent devices. It prints for every device found,
>> all possible attributes in the udev rules key format. A rule to match,
>> can be composed by the attributes of the device and the attributes from
>> one single parent device.
>
> (...)
>
> Okay... then according to this doc:
>
> http://reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html#udevinfo
>
> You can't mix attributes from different parent devices, so
>
> SUBSYSTEM=="tty"
Erm. 
--8<---cut here---start->8---
legal to combine the attributes from the device in question and a single parent 
device
--8<---cut here---end--->8---
SUBSYSTEM=="tty" is from "device in question" Am I wrong?

>
> cannot go with
>
> ATTRS{idVendor} == "12d1"
>
> You may try with:
>
> SUBSYSTEMS=="usb", ATTRS{idVendor}=="12d1", ATTRS{idProduct}=="1003", 
> SYMLINK+="e122"

Unfortunately /dev/sdc match these rule, and somehow "takes precedence"
and I ends with symlink to sdc.

--8<---cut here---start->8---
%sudo udevadm info --query=all --attribute-walk --name=sdc
custom logging function 0x7f52d1ee2010 registered
selinux=0
runtime dir '/dev/.udev'
calling: info
device 0x7f52d1ee44c0 has devpath 
'/devices/pci:00/:00:02.1/usb1/1-10/1-10:1.3/host76/target76:0:0/76:0:0:0/block/sdc'
device 0x7f52d1ee3160 has devpath 
'/devices/pci:00/:00:02.1/usb1/1-10/1-10:1.3/host76/target76:0:0/76:0:0:0'
device 0x7f52d1ee4e20 has devpath 
'/devices/pci:00/:00:02.1/usb1/1-10/1-10:1.3/host76/target76:0:0'
device 0x7f52d1ee51b0 has devpath 
'/devices/pci:00/:00:02.1/usb1/1-10/1-10:1.3/host76'
device 0x7f52d1ee55f0 has devpath 
'/devices/pci:00/:00:02.1/usb1/1-10/1-10:1.3'
device 0x7f52d1ee61f0 has devpath '/devices/pci:00/:00:02.1/usb1/1-10'
device 0x7f52d1ee7db0 has devpath '/devices/pci:00/:00:02.1/usb1'

Udevadm info starts with the device specified by the devpath and then
walks up the chain of parent devices. It prints for every device
found, all possible attributes in the udev rules key format.
A rule to match, can be composed by the attributes of the device
and the attributes from one single parent device.

  looking at device 
'/devices/pci:00/:00:02.1/usb1/1-10/1-10:1.3/host76/target76:0:0/76:0:0:0/block/sdc':
KERNEL=="sdc"
SUBSYSTEM=="block"
DRIVER==""
ATTR{range}=="16"
ATTR{ext_range}=="256"
ATTR{removable}=="1"
ATTR{ro}=="0"
ATTR{size}=="0"
ATTR{alignment_offset}=="0"
ATTR{discard_alignment}=="0"
ATTR{capability}=="51"
ATTR{stat}=="   0000000 
   0000"
ATTR{inflight}=="   00"
ATTR{events}=="media_change"
ATTR{events_async}==""
ATTR{events_poll_msecs}=="-1"

  looking at parent device 
'/devices/pci:00/:00:02.1/usb1/1-10/1-10:1.3/host76/target76:0:0/76:0:0:0':
KERNELS=="76:0:0:0"
SUBSYSTEMS=="scsi"
DRIVERS=="sd"
ATTRS{device_blocked}=="0"
ATTRS{type}=="0"
ATTRS{scsi_level}=="3"
ATTRS{vendor}=="HUAWEI  "
ATTRS{model}=="SD Storage  "
ATTRS{rev}=="2.31"
ATTRS{state}=="running"
ATTRS{timeout}=="30"
ATTRS{iocounterbits}=="32"
ATTRS{iorequest_cnt}=="0x7"
ATTRS{iodone_cnt}=="0x7"
ATTRS{ioerr_cnt}=="0x6"
ATTRS{evt_media_change}=="0"
ATTRS{queue_depth}=="1"
ATTRS{queue_type}=="none"
ATTRS{max_sectors}=="240"

  looking at parent device 
'/devices/pci:00/:00:02.1/usb1/1-10/1-10:1.3/host76/target76:0:0':
KERNELS=="target76:0:0"
SUBSYSTEMS=="scsi"
DRIVERS==""

  looking at parent device 
'/devices/pci:00/:00:02.1/usb1/1-10/1-10:1.3/host76':
KERNELS=="host76"
SUBSYSTEMS=="scsi"
DRIVERS==""

  looking at parent device 
'/devices/pci:00/:00:02.1/usb1/1-10/1-10:1.3':
KERNELS=="1-10:1.3"
SUBSYSTEMS=="usb"
DRIVERS=="usb-storage"
ATTRS{bInterfaceNumber}=="03"
ATTRS{bAlternateSetting}==" 0"
ATTRS{bNumEndpoints}=="02"
ATTRS{bInterfaceClass}=="08"
ATTRS{bInterfaceSubClass}=="06"
ATTRS{bInterfaceProtocol}=="50"
ATTRS{supports_autosuspend}=="1"
ATTRS{interface}=="USB MASS STORAGE"

  looking at parent device '/devices/pci:00/:00:02.1/usb1/1-10':
KERNELS=="1-10"
SUBSYSTEMS=="usb"
DRIVERS=="usb"
ATTRS{configuration}==""
ATTRS{bNumInterfaces}==" 4"
ATTRS{bConfigurationValue}=="1"
ATTRS{bmAttributes}=="80"
ATTRS{bMaxPower}=="500mA"
ATTRS{urbnum}=="239"
ATTRS{idVendor}=="12d1"
ATTRS{idProduct}=="1003"
ATTRS{bcdDevice}==""
ATTRS{bDeviceClass}=="00"
ATTRS{bDeviceSubClass}=="00"
ATTRS{bDeviceProtocol}=

Re: Is there any valid reason to add an idiotic script to /etc/init.d by an default Debian install that only cause a PITA?

On Sun 12 Jun 2011 at 17:35:02 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

> - I run audio sessions by shell scripts, hence I can set the governor to
>   performance, while it's ok when it's set to ondemand for non-audio
>   usage.

Some choices:

1. File a bug report. But read bug #461470 first.

2. Install gnome-applets.

3. Read section 3.3 of OLS2006-ondemand-paper.pdf at

   ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/lenb/acpi/doc/O


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Re: After the Libc6 Fiasco

2011-06-12 Thread David Baron

>   David Baron:
> > Luckily, using the live-CD, I was able to download and re-install the 
> > "testing" packages for libc6 and friends and finally get my system
> > working  again.
> 
> What problem are you referring to? The breakage from the missing
> symlinks on amd64? That issue has been fixed some weeks ago.

The problem was flagged as a bug and then no longer appeared. Partial 
installation. The error message I got was that an alleged "non-dpkg-owned" 
library was present, too dangerous to update. However, some of the packages 
were indeed updated. The resulting mix was not operational for x-windows and 
some other less critical programs.

I am running 686 (32-bit) on a P4.

(Since half these files are symlinks, missing symlinks in such critical 
packages are inexcusable, I think, but that was not my problem.)

> 
> > OK:
> > 1. Unstable can sometimes get broken. I accept that.
> > 2. However, libc6 stuff is so critical that any upgrade posted must be 
> > installable and operational. Some folks might not recover.
> 
> Then they shouldn't run unstable. :)
Yup. But they already had it installed and running without much ado for ages.

> 
> > Since the current packages only partially installed last attempt, I am
> > afraid  to upgrade any of this now. What is the status in reality?
> 
> Works for me (on amd64). What's your specific problem? Which version are
> you on, which do you try to install and how does it fail?

I supposed I could try again. Since I manually dpkg-downgraded to the testing 
packages, there should really be no non-dpkg library around. Since I had to 
fix this stuff manually a long while back, maybe there was some file I copied 
to /lib. Still, should have given me the choice to abort all of it or go 
ahead. Worst case would have been no worse.

If it fails to totally install again, I still have the testing packages to 
which to downgrade immediately this time. I would only touch the x-stuff if it 
succeeds since their dependencies on the libc6 and friends are critical. Or 
maybe wait till the next upgrade?

Re: HP DL180 with P212 SAS controller

On Sun 12 Jun 2011 at 17:19:15 +0200, owl...@gmail.com wrote:

> I had seen that thread but i can't find any useful info

Does this make you any happier?

http://serverfault.com/questions/272982/adaptec-1405-or-hp-smartarray-p212-sas-controller-supported-in-the-stock-rh-5-5-k


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Re: k3b can't burn audio CD, got a few coasters today

2011-06-12 Thread H.S.

On 12/06/11 08:00 AM, Philipp Überbacher wrote:
> Excerpts from H.S.'s message of 2011-06-12 00:12:04 +0200:
> 
> Afaik Debian uses a vastly inferior version of cdrtools called cdrkit,
> so it may simply be due to a bug in cdrkit.
> 
> Regards,
> Philipp
> 
> 

If it is a bug, it is recent. I have never had any problem with burning
any kind of CD or DVD in Debian before this event ... other than a few
user errors.

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Re: Is there any valid reason to add an [unneeded] script to /etc/init.d by an default Debian install that only cause a PITA?

On Sun, 2011-06-12 at 17:52 +0100, Brian wrote:
> On Sun 12 Jun 2011 at 17:35:02 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> 
> > - I run audio sessions by shell scripts, hence I can set the governor to
> >   performance, while it's ok when it's set to ondemand for non-audio
> >   usage.
> 
> Some choices:
> 
> 1. File a bug report. But read bug #461470 first.
> 
> 2. Install gnome-applets.

I don't have any issue, I've got proper Linux DAWs. The GNOME applet
isn't a solution since inexperienced users have no idea that jackd isn't
working without glitches, regarding to CPU frequency scaling. I'm an
experienced Linux audio user, but since a while very often people have
issues regarding to a 'hidden' frequency scaling. Frequency scaling
should be set by the kernel config and FWIW, it safes nearly no energy
consumption to chose 'ondemand' instead of 'performance'. It might safe
around 1 W, e.g instead of 45W for an Athlon dual-core, it will be
around 44 W. I suspect that experienced audio users start their audio
sessions by scripts, including to switch the CPU frequency scaling if
needed, at least I do so. A DAW isn't a flashy toy desktop with all
kinds of funny toys in the panel.

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=461470

Safe energy caused by a portable computers display. And if you think CPU
frequency scaling has any effect to the load, than use the kernel's
config for a default kernel to set the governor to ondemand and for
real-time kernels it should be set to performance, so everybody's needs
are fit.

2 Cents,

Ralf

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Re: k3b can't burn audio CD, got a few coasters today

2011-06-12 Thread H.S.

On 12/06/11 06:12 AM, tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote:
> Hi, answers inline.
> 
>> 12/06/2011 00:12, H.S. wrote:
>> Hello.
>>
>> I have experienced this problem on and off for the past several months.
>> But today it was the worst case. I am trying to burn a bunch of mp3
>> files to make an audio CD using k3b. I was able to so do for the first
>> one after burning only a single coaster. The second one is still not
>> done and I already have wasted 5 discs in the process.
>>
> [trim]
>> The permissions for my optical drive are:
>> $ ls -l /dev/dvd*
>> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 Jun 11 16:36 /dev/dvd -> sr0
>> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 Jun 11 16:36 /dev/dvdrw -> sr0
>> $ ls -al /dev/sr0
>> brw-rw+ 1 root cdrom 11, 0 Jun 11 16:36 /dev/sr0
>>
>> and do belong to 'cdrom' group.
>>
>> Thanks.
> 
> Look into the "configuration" k3b menu, "set system permissions", make
> sure there isn't a funny group attributed to the burning task.

They seem to be fine, root:cdrom

>>
> 
> Given your kde version you don't need hal at all, purge it, it's a
> plague anyway. Just make sure you don't have any Gnome or whatever
> programs which needs it (hwinfo still needs it I think, maybe others).

I see. Hal is not installed any way (got automatically removed
yesterday). Some related libs remain, however. deborphan doesn't list
them, so for now I will trust aptitude to have good reason to keep those.

>> Used versions
>> ---
>> cdrecord: 1.1.11
>>
>> cdrecord
>> ---
>> /usr/bin/wodim: Operation not permitted. Warning: Cannot raise
>> RLIMIT_MEMLOCK limits.
> 
> This my be a hint...

I noticed that. But I can't make head nor tail of it at this point. The
only thing that irks me is that gnome's nautilus pops up everytime I
insert a blank disc while running KDE. Could that be a problem? Don't
know, since I have been able to burn audio cd from mp3 a few times in
the last week.

> 
> This isn't very specific, it could be another program poling and holding
> the drive, did you try "lsof" or "fuser" the device node to see if
> something is using it ? I also got this kind of errors with permissions
> problems, but yours look good.

I will try it again. Meanwhile, I was able to burn the same track after
converting them to wav using soundconvertor.

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Re: k3b can't burn audio CD, got a few coasters today

2011-06-12 Thread H.S.

On 12/06/11 07:18 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote:
> On 12/06/11 11:01, H.S. wrote:
>> On 11/06/11 07:52 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>>> On Sat, 2011-06-11 at 19:37 -0400, H.S. wrote:
 On 11/06/11 07:21 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote:
> On 12/06/11 08:48, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>> Sorry, I can't help you, but perhaps there's a better way to eject a CD.
> 
>>
>> So, doesn't look like hal is playing any role anymore, much to my surprise.
>>
> 
> Don't worry about it.
> As stated earlier no mounting is involved. It's unlikely HAL, udev, or
> dbus is a factor in the problem (based on the adequate information
> you've given)
> 
> For the following suggestions try using a single 16-bit WAV file - this
> will make testing quicker, and, hopefully, remove the chance that the
> error is occurring during the "convert to WAV process" or TOC creation.
> Let me know if you'd like me to direct email you a WAV file.

Thanks for the offer of helping with a wav file. I converted my mp3s to
wav files using soundconvertor, edited the wav files' tags in k3b and
burned the disc. Went quite well.

Now, I am not sure what to read from this. I was, after all, able to
burn mp3 files directly to make an audio CD a few times in the last few
days.

I suppose I need to repeat the experiment with another set of mp3 files
and see how it goes.

> Does Nautilus have an option allowing you to create an audio CD image file?
> If so try it. (let's try and isolate the CD/DVD drive from the list of
> factors)
> If not,try burning another audio CD (from you dwindling stack of blanks)
> using Nautilus.

Not worried about the coasters as much as I am about the reliability of
the Debian system that I am used to.

I couldn't find an option in Nautilus to make a an audio cd. I gave up
on Nautilus for this task.

> 
> Try setting K3b to the lowest speed and burn an image only,without cd
> text enabled.

That I haven't tried yet. Well, actually, I did try a fixed speed of 40x
or so (instead of the top 48x) and got the same problem. Maybe a much
lower speed will be one of the experiments.

> 
> I see a couple of weird things in your K3b log:-
> Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid)
> (and as noted by tv.debian) the fifo error - which shows the failure is
> very early in the audio cd creation process. Follow his (sic)
> suggestions - I'll have a read of your reply.

I will try losf and fuser next time.

> I'm reasonably certain it's not a permissions or group membership problem.

So am I, since in that case I would get the problem every time.

Thanks.

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[SOLVED] Re: Huawei e122 - how to make symlink to usb modem?

2011-06-12 Thread Kamil Jońca

kjo...@poczta.onet.pl (Kamil Jońca) writes:

> I have e122 modem. I would have symlink to /dev/ttyUSBX. (modem device)
> But simple rule:
>
> SUBSYSTEM=="tty",ATTRS{idVendor} == "12d1" , ATTRS{idProduct} == "1003",  
> SYMLINK+="e122"
>
> does not work.

It was enough to put rule in /etc/udev/rules.d/zz-local.rules
instead of /etc/udev/rules.d/00-local.rules

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Re: How to get Bell Canada 3G USB network up?

2011/6/12 Scott Ferguson :
> What colour is the blinking light?

I think it just blinks in the color in which it was lit before the
'crash'; I've run another test now and it was yellow then blinked in
yellow.

(BTW I've tried 'screen /dev/ttyUSB1' and sending ATZ and ATH0, and
while these give me OK, it doesn't change anything to the blinking or
color.)

>> +CSQ: 12,99
>
> That is your signal quality. And no - I can't translate it for you.

(nm shows signal strength at around "33%" today, whatever *that*
means. Anyway this is strong enough to give me a stable, fast
connection without any dropouts once the stick passes the magical
20-30 second crash point.)

> [reads nm.log - sees word "Canonical" - goes into catatonic state]

I don't have any problems with them.. (back in 2004 I thought it's a
pity that they forked the project, but now I think it was probably
better that way?)

>> (There you could also find the firmware upgrader that I recently used
>> on my modem to no avail.)
> 
> Have you successfully managed to use the same modem since failing to
> upgrade?

When I said "to no avail" I meant that, although the upgrade ran
successfully through (from a machine running Windows XP), it didn't
change a bit of the behaviour of the modem. (And on the same Windows
installation the modem didn't exhibit the crash neither before nor
after the upgrade.)

> If you could bear with me I'll do a bit more reading of those logs and

Also note 'log.Readme' (which I put up a couple minutes after I sent
the last mail); interestingly the stick goes 'off' ('crashes')
exactly(?) at the point in time when nm talks to it. (Would it be nm
'actively' crashing it?)

Christian.


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No input devices in wheezy

2011-06-12 Thread AG

My keyboard works fine at the GRUB screen, enabling me to select the 
kernel to boot.  However, at gdm3 (and kdm as well now as the default), 
neither mouse nor keyboard works.


Doing a hard reboot, I can boot into recovery mode and from there startx 
and as root, keyboard and mouse work fine.  But, logging out as root and 
coming back to the login screen, again input devices are frozen.


Research from the web seems to suggest this is a known bug, but the 
resolutions are confusing: some suggest rm -fr /run but that doesn't 
work for me; others suggest it is something to do with udev, whilst 
others think it has something to do with xorg.conf.  So far, the only 
workarounds seem to be hacks that work for some but not for others.  
There do seem to be a number of bugs reported on this already.


I am currently using my user account, but had to get into it via 
recovery mode, going to root and su to my user account.  This seems to 
be okay, but it is not a preferred route.


Can someone please give me some advice on how to fix this.

Am I looking at downgrading udev or upgrading it or ... ?  And if 
downgrading it, how do I do that without losing everything else that 
seems to be dependent on it?


For reference, this is an installation from squeeze that was updated to 
wheezy, but I have now read that this is an issue for those who have 
done fresh wheezy installs as well.


Thanks for any help.

AG


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Re: How to get Bell Canada 3G USB network up?

ps. forgot to put up the log from today's crashed run; now here:
http://christianjaeger.ch/scratch/bell_novatel/crashrun2/

Same thing as yesterday, the crash happens exactly at (or then within
+-1 second of) the time nm sends AT+CSQ and then AT$CNTI=0.

Going to try to look up what the latter command means.

Maybe nm just shuts down the modem when it sees "No carrier", and the
no carrier part is maybe a bug in the modem?

Christian.


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Re: Is there any valid reason to add an [unneeded] script to /etc/init.d by an default Debian install that only cause a PITA?

On Sun 12 Jun 2011 at 20:16:19 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

> I don't have any issue, . . . . . .

Then I, for one, am lost as to why you sent your original mail if you do
not want technical help.


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Re: How to get Bell Canada 3G USB network up?

I wrote
> AT$CNTI=0.
>
> Going to try to look up what the latter command means.
>

27007-3d0.pdf does not reference it. Googling "AT$CNTI=0" turns up

http://www.slideshare.net/Dominque23/novatel-u740-firmware-upgrade-272-release-notesdocdoc

"Fixed AT Argument Pointer Issue (raised from the AT$CNTI=0 issue that
would return ERROR instead of the current RAT)."

Still not sure what it means. (Also, the last year mentioned in that
document is 2006, so chances are this fix was done 5 years ago so the
current modem shouldn't suffer from it?)

Christian.


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Re: Is there any valid reason to add an [unneeded] script to /etc/init.d by an default Debian install that only cause a PITA?

On Sun, 2011-06-12 at 20:00 +0100, Brian wrote:
> On Sun 12 Jun 2011 at 20:16:19 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> 
> > I don't have any issue, . . . . . .
> 
> Then I, for one, am lost as to why you sent your original mail if you do
> not want technical help.


With hope that Debian developers join a users list to get information
about the needs of users ;). IMO users shouldn't spoil a developers/
package builders list.

Regards,

Ralf



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[debian.li...@home.nl: Re: broadcom: SOLVED]

2011-06-12 Thread Chris Brennan

- Forwarded message from steef  -

Redirected back to list so it can be archived.


Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 21:39:46 +0200
From: steef 
To: Chris Brennan 
Subject: Re: broadcom: SOLVED

Chris Brennan schreef:
> * steef  [2011-06-11 15:32:00 +0200]:
> 
>> 
>> hi list,
>> 
>> bought my self a hp mini-netbook, included windoze7 and a very strong accu, 
>> 10
>> hours of life.
> 
> What's 'accu'?
> 
>> i put sid on an usb-stick, included fluxbox and wicd(-curses).
>> 
>> wifi = (lspci) brcm4313. (type 5.60.350.6)
> 
> Can you paste the whole line from lspci?
> 
> 'lspci | grep 4313' should do (without the quotes)
> 
>> loaded/installed the according the debian broadcom-  (broadcom 43xx wireless
>> drivers)  -wiki convenient driver_firmware. the driver should be included in
>> the sid_kernel, so i understood. however: this wifi_driver does not work.
> 
> See below link.
> 
>> my questions: what did i do wrong if anything (1) ?
> 
> My question, what *did* you do? Can you be a little more specific about the
> process you did follow?
> 
>> and
>> 
>> broadcom assued a so-called xxx-STA driver (by google) somebody with some
>> experience with this brcm4313 driver for linux (tar.gz) does this one work 
>> for
>> my mini_netbook (2) ?
> 
> Link?
> 
>> if i find a working driver i can get rid of w7.
> 
> http://wiki.debian.org/wl is what I used on my HP laptop. I've actually had
> Debian 6 (Squeeze) installed on there for several months now and I *JUST* got 
> wireless working
> within the last few days, it was based on the above link that I got it 
> working, it's
> fairly straight-forward and your 4313 is listed (mine is a 4312).
> 
> One thing I do recommend, if you have a physical wifi switch, to toggle it 
> after the
> new wl driver is loaded, that was the trick that got it working for me, once 
> I did, it
> turned blue and I immediately connected to my Router
> 
> 

hi chris,

thanks for your help. with the [broadcom-sta] wl-module from the wl
debian wiki you advised me i was able to install wl.ko in the
kernel-modules. now all works fine.

thank you again,

steef

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Steef, your very welcome. I am glad that wiki page helped you. I was 
amazed at how easily it worked for me. My laptop has been up for 3 days 
now with the information from that WIKI page and it is still reported 
100% signal strength and it hasn't dropped (Windows used to drop all the 
time, annoyed the hell out of me.)

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Re: icedove/yahoo imap: messages marked as read & filters not run on inbox


On 12/06/2011 17:14, Nicolas Bercher wrote:

...but, the tricky thing is that I can't turn off the pop3 option
WITHOUT setting up a mail transfert...!  This is really stupid: it is
impossible to disable the two options at the same time!
In order to continue my investigations, I created another yahoo mail
account to receive these mail transfers and see what happens.  This is
really annoying.
I solved this by editing html code with iceweasel/firebug and sending to the server a 
response with no button checked.  During my googling time, I found a message of 2002 
relating the same stupid situation in the webmail interface.  It's crazy to see how old 
this issue is.


Now, I think I solved all of the problems with yahoo imap and my account.

Thanks to you all.

Nicolas


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Re: icedove/yahoo imap: messages marked as read & filters not run on inbox


On 12/06/2011 16:02, Chris Davies wrote:

Nicolas Bercher  wrote:

Maybe the pop3 side config in fetching e-mails, leaving them on the
server, etc. has an effect on the imap side.


I should expect that reading a message with POP would indeed mark it as
read for the IMAP presentation. IMO this would be correct behaviour, and
the corollary is that you shouldn't mix and match your email protocols.

Completely right, my initial goal was to test yahoo imap first.

Nicolas


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Re: No input devices in wheezy +additional info

2011-06-12 Thread AG


On 12/06/11 19:34, AG wrote:
My keyboard works fine at the GRUB screen, enabling me to select the 
kernel to boot.  However, at gdm3 (and kdm as well now as the 
default), neither mouse nor keyboard works.


Doing a hard reboot, I can boot into recovery mode and from there 
startx and as root, keyboard and mouse work fine.  But, logging out as 
root and coming back to the login screen, again input devices are frozen.


Research from the web seems to suggest this is a known bug, but the 
resolutions are confusing: some suggest rm -fr /run but that doesn't 
work for me; others suggest it is something to do with udev, whilst 
others think it has something to do with xorg.conf.  So far, the only 
workarounds seem to be hacks that work for some but not for others.  
There do seem to be a number of bugs reported on this already.


I am currently using my user account, but had to get into it via 
recovery mode, going to root and su to my user account.  This seems to 
be okay, but it is not a preferred route.


Can someone please give me some advice on how to fix this.

Am I looking at downgrading udev or upgrading it or ... ?  And if 
downgrading it, how do I do that without losing everything else that 
seems to be dependent on it?


For reference, this is an installation from squeeze that was updated 
to wheezy, but I have now read that this is an issue for those who 
have done fresh wheezy installs as well.


Thanks for any help.

AG



Additional info if helpful ...

No name brand PS/2 keyboard 105 keys intl

Logitech USB marble mouse

Problem can be replicated using an alternate USB keyboard (Logitech).

Thanks again.

AG


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psi instead of Skype

2011-06-12 Thread Andreas Weber

Hi list

Has any of you experience in using psi instead of Skype?

If been using it for years now for chat with huge success, but of course
it didn't find the broad mass of users as Skype did. But now times
somewhat changed, guess why - you guessed right. ;-)

Multi-platform, chat, voice calling, video support...

I saw that I need psi-plus to enable voice on Debian, is that correct?

Thanks for your insights.

ändu


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Re: installing .debs from hdd

2011-06-12 Thread Robert Holtzman

On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 06:45:04AM +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote:
> On 12/06/11 06:22, Robert Holtzman wrote:
> > How can I install multiple debs residing in  a directory on my hard drive? 
> > Unless I missed it, running a search, the Debian Reference manual and the 
> > Maintainers Guide shows nothing applicable. Any pointers appreciated.
> > 
> # dpkg -i /path/to/harddrive/*.deb

That did the trick. Thanks. BTW, where in the docs does it mention this
situation and point to dpkg? I would love to know where I missed it.

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Re: open source time/expense tracking package?

2011-06-12 Thread Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd]

"You get full *source* code access so you can make the system behave just
the"

Quoted from their website.

Sure, you have to pay a license, but you get the full source code to do
whatever you want with after you purchase the license.

Give it a try, we've used it for years for internal time tracking (along
with a desktop start/stop widget) and tasks.. works perfectly.

Cal

On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 4:45 AM, Miles Fidelman
wrote:

> Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd] wrote:
>
>> Active Collab
>>
> but not open source
>
>
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>
>
>

Re: open source time/expense tracking package?

2011-06-12 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz

How about redmine (www.redmine.org)?
That is a real nice project management system.


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Re: installing .debs from hdd

2011-06-12 Thread Wayne Topa


On 06/12/2011 04:27 PM, Robert Holtzman wrote:

On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 06:45:04AM +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote:

On 12/06/11 06:22, Robert Holtzman wrote:

How can I install multiple debs residing in  a directory on my hard drive?
Unless I missed it, running a search, the Debian Reference manual and the
Maintainers Guide shows nothing applicable. Any pointers appreciated.


# dpkg -i /path/to/harddrive/*.deb


That did the trick. Thanks. BTW, where in the docs does it mention this
situation and point to dpkg? I would love to know where I missed it.


man dpkg


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Re: How to get Bell Canada 3G USB network up?

I've now downloaded the source of the modemmanager package, both
stable and testing; it doesn't really explain anything either:

The only references to $CNTI are in plugins/mm-modem-novatel-gsm.c
(there are references to *CNTI in replugins/mm-modem-sierra-gsm.c),
and it's this code that emits the $CNTI=0:

static void
get_access_technology (MMGenericGsm *modem,
   MMModemUIntFn callback,
   gpointer user_data)
{
MMAtSerialPort *port;
MMCallbackInfo *info;

info = mm_callback_info_uint_new (MM_MODEM (modem), callback, user_data);

port = mm_generic_gsm_get_best_at_port (modem, &info->error);
if (!port) {
mm_callback_info_schedule (info);
return;
}

mm_at_serial_port_queue_command (port, "$CNTI=0", 3,
get_act_request_done, info);
}

I wanted to experiment with removing that command, but first I
installed the unmodified version from testing (recompiled for
Squeeze). Now in the last couple attempts the modem hasn't crashed
anymore, I don't know yet whether that's just because I'm lucky or the
newer version fixes the issue, I'll tell after more testing (different
time of day etc.). (FWIW, I've put up the logs of two successful
connection attempts at
http://christianjaeger.ch/scratch/bell_novatel/mm_testing/ .)

Christian.


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Re: open source time/expense tracking package?

2011-06-12 Thread Miles Fidelman


Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote:

How about redmine (www.redmine.org)?
That is a real nice project management system.


time sheets - fill in, "sign" and submit, approve, transfer to 
accounting/billing system, maintain audit log


expense reports - fill in, "sign and submit, approve, transfer to 
accounting/billing system, generate list of checks to write, maintain 
audit log


both are very simple processes, common to pretty much any environment 
that provides professional services on a time & materials basis -- lots 
of people do it on paper, there are a good number of commercial 
packages, but nothing that I can find that's FOSS (even when surrounded 
by huge amounts of project management stuff that I have no need for)


redmine (and most other project management systems I've looked at) 
provide for tracking time against tasks, but none of the formal stuff 
needed for accounting and billing (particularly for government contracts)




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Re: installing .debs from hdd

On Sun 12 Jun 2011 at 13:27:49 -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote:

> That did the trick. Thanks. BTW, where in the docs does it mention this
> situation and point to dpkg? I would love to know where I missed it.

Debian Reference. Section 2.4.1.


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Re: psi instead of Skype

2011-06-12 Thread Nuno Magalhães

Hi,

Not an expert, but skype uses its own proprietary protocol, i think
(plus SIP to initiate), so i think you'd need a skype transport on
your jabber server. Again, not an expert.

Try converting your friends to open protocols instead ;) [not an easy
task, i know]

HTH,
Nuno

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Re (2): Configuring Iceweasel security policies.

2011-06-12 Thread peasthope

From:   Scott Ferguson 
Date:   Sun, 12 Jun 2011 20:20:17 +1000
> Stepping through what you've described above...
> 
> You are on a Dalton console.

By console I mean the SVGA monitor, keyboard and mouse.  It supports X11 
in addition to plain CLI.

> If you are *not* running as root (and why would you be?)

Correct.  User peter.

> You saved the page to "storage of Dalton" presumably "storage" is
> somewhere below /home/peter
> 
> eg.:-
> home/peter/"Peter Lyall Easthope.html"

Here I stored it as /home/peter/Desktop/index.html.  The choice of name 
doesn't change the phenomenon being demonstrated.

We're dealing with two pages.  There is the "primary" page containing 
the Web link.  Then there is the page Category2.html which is target of 
the link in the primary page.  Category2.html is always local.  I can 
open Category2.html when the primary page is local.  Not when the primary 
page is remote.

> You then say that the link works (I don't disbelieve you)- but that link
> is pointing at the root of Dalton, not the root of Peters home directory
> So "something" I'm assuming in the above scenario is not correct.

Yes.  There is a filesystem soft link as we discussed a day or two back.  
peter@joule:~$ sudo ln -s /home/peter/Category2.html /Category2.html
peter@joule:~$ ls -l /C*
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 23 Jun 12 13:16 /Category2.html -> 
/home/peter/Category2.html
The filesystem and the Web both having "links" is a possible source of 
confusion.

> Just to clarify:-
> When you click on a http link in a html page the link is "relative" to
> the web server.
> ... 
> Because the browser replaces "file" with localhost, which renders the
> URI /"Peter Lyall Easthope.html" (damn absolute links!)

Yes, we're in sync for everything in those 5 paragraphs.  Keep in 
mind the filesystem link from ln -s above.  That lets me open 
/home/peter/Category2.html by targeting file:///Category2.html.

> I'm sure, somewhere in all these threads you've explained what Dalton is
> running, 

Dalton runs Squeeze and Iceweasel.

> but I'm a little confused with talk of Oberon and vnc
> connections to Iceweasel running on other machines. 

VNC is completely irrelevant to this discussion.  It was 
only part of an answer to Ron J.  Oberon was mentioned only 
to illustrate how I expected a rational browser to behave.
Oberon is not necessary to demonstrate the behaviour of 
Iceweasel.

> When I refer to
> localhost I mean the machine that hosts Iceweasel. 

Yes, dalton.

> I'm also assuming
> that Iceweasel is not running as root, 

Correct.

> ,,, and that the directory that you
> save "Peter Lyall Easthope.html" into is mounted on the same machine as
> the file Category2.html.

Yes.  That is dalton.  

> Agreed - *but* http://pe...@members.shaw.ca/ is asking the browser to
> login to members.shaw.ca.
> And the server on shaw.ca says "I'm sorry Dave but" :-D
> So what the browser is actually served is members.shaw.ca
> eg.:-
> http://pe...@members.shaw.ca/ == http://members.shaw.ca/
> 
> Which seems like a waste of 6 characters ;-p

Correct.  I put in the "peter@" when trying to imagine the meaning of 
the error message from Iceweasel.  I'll remove it.

The final observation is that there should be a way to open 
file:///blah.html, regardless of where the link resides.  At present 
I can open it only with a link in a local page.  The link on a remote 
server, targetting file:///blah.html, produces only the error message 
from Iceweasel.  file:/// is always an absolute file name on the 
local machine isn't it?  Is there a syntax for a non-local file:///?
Logically, that should not be necessary, but it might help with 
troubleshooting.

Hopefully the failure of the non-local case is just a security default  
which can be overridden.  Otherwise it's a bug in Iceweasel.

> Cheers, and thanks for your patience.

Thanks for your patience.  The thread is becoming stale and 
there are too many small digressions.  A fresh description of the 
problem with new names might help ... except that everyone must be 
fed up with it by now.

Regards,   ... Peter E.

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Re: installing .debs from hdd

2011-06-12 Thread Robert Holtzman

On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 10:24:37PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> On Sun 12 Jun 2011 at 13:27:49 -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote:
> 
> > That did the trick. Thanks. BTW, where in the docs does it mention this
> > situation and point to dpkg? I would love to know where I missed it.
> 
> Debian Reference. Section 2.4.1.

Thanks. I don't feel *quite* so bad about missing it. It takes a fair
amount of digging to get there.

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Re: Can't install on an Intel iMac

2011-06-12 Thread Mike Hore


Hi Andu,


On 2011-06-12 04:26, Mike Hore wrote:

3. Install rEFIt on the Mac. Don't forget to run enable-always.sh.


It's installed, but I don't know what you mean by enable-always.sh.
Sorry, I'm new to this.


In MacOS, open up a terminal, go to /efi/refit/ and run
'enable-always.sh' so rEFIt is invoked on boot all the time.


OK, thanks.





4. Boot, choose the rEFIt partitioning tool, sync the MBR.


Umm... it looks like it's going to wipe the Mac partition if I do that!
  Am I going to have to save everything and restore again?


No. If you open up the  partitioning tool of rEFIt from the boot menu,
it will ask you if it should sync the MBR table for you. Yes, it should.


OK.  Yes, it's saying it wants to do it.



If no action is needed, then quit the partitioning tool.


5. Insert the CD, reboot, press C.
6. Install Debian with kernel options 'nomodeset reboot=pci'.


How do I select those options?


You can set them once the installer has loaded and you choose if you
want to do normal, expert or whatever install. If you don't, your Linux
will hang during the reboot. Plan B: don't set it on install and if the
install is done and the reboot hangs, kill the machine with the power
button. Continue with 9., and once in Linux, set the options in
/etc/default/grub and have a line in it like
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="nomodeset reboot=pci"


OK, I'll try one of those.




9. Reboot, choose the rEFIT partitioning tool, sync the MBR.


What - do it again??


Yes, do it again. If you don't, your Linux won't boot.


10. Reboot, pick whatever you want as OS in rEFIt.

If you like, define the default OS in the refit conf file under MacOS.


Where's that?


Edit in MacOS /efi/refit/refit.conf, use 'default_selection L' after you
read the fine manual. ;-)


Whoops, there's a manual?  :-) :-)

I'll post the results of how I go.

Cheers,  Mike.


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news/mail client and the text borders

2011-06-12 Thread Davide Baldini


What software do you use for mail/news?
I see all your messages are proudly well formatted and perfectly fit in
pages of 80 columns, while I have to push return each line. If i forget, 
lines gets splitted in my window but then when i send it out i

see the big mistake...

is there any margins setting? I use icedove (thunderbird 3.0.11)


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Re: k3b can't burn audio CD, got a few coasters today

On 13/06/11 04:22, H.S. wrote:
> On 12/06/11 07:18 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote:
>> On 12/06/11 11:01, H.S. wrote:
>>> On 11/06/11 07:52 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 On Sat, 2011-06-11 at 19:37 -0400, H.S. wrote:
> On 11/06/11 07:21 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote:
>> On 12/06/11 08:48, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>>> Sorry, I can't help you, but perhaps there's a better way to eject a CD.
>> 
>>
>> For the following suggestions try using a single 16-bit WAV file - this
>> will make testing quicker, and, hopefully, remove the chance that the
>> error is occurring during the "convert to WAV process" or TOC creation.
>> Let me know if you'd like me to direct email you a WAV file.
> 
> Thanks for the offer of helping with a wav file. I converted my mp3s to
> wav files using soundconvertor, edited the wav files' tags in k3b and
> burned the disc. Went quite well.

Ah! Bingo!
You have isolated (proven) the problem. :-)
Empirical evidence is so much better than a mere emotional investment! :-D

> 
> Now, I am not sure what to read from this. I was, after all, able to
> burn mp3 files directly to make an audio CD a few times in the last few
> days.
> 
> I suppose I need to repeat the experiment with another set of mp3 files
> and see how it goes.

As your log showed - the problem was occurring very early in the audio
cd creation process. Your failed attempt never got as far as the image
creation process - well short of actually beginning the burn - which
meant the problem was occurring during the creation of the image (that
later gets burnt to the device).

>From hazy memories:-
Organize order of tracks
Create cd text (hence my suggestion to disable)
convert music files to 16-bit WAV with incremental numeric in names to
organize structure
TOC (?)
make image
continuous write of image

Disclaimer: be very wary of relying on my hazy memories. :-(

> 
> 
>> Does Nautilus have an option allowing you to create an audio CD image file?
>> If so try it. (let's try and isolate the CD/DVD drive from the list of
>> factors)
>> If not,try burning another audio CD (from you dwindling stack of blanks)
>> using Nautilus.
> 
> Not worried about the coasters as much as I am about the reliability of
> the Debian system that I am used to.

Not too worry. Debian is as reliable as ever!
"If you break it - you can keep both pieces"
"Under-promise - over-deliver"
"If you don't like it - fix it yourself" ;-p

> 
> I couldn't find an option in Nautilus to make a an audio cd. I gave up
> on Nautilus for this task.

I use KDE - no DE, so I'm not offended ;-p

> 
> 
> 
>>
>> Try setting K3b to the lowest speed and burn an image only,without cd
>> text enabled.
> 
> That I haven't tried yet. Well, actually, I did try a fixed speed of 40x
> or so (instead of the top 48x) and got the same problem. Maybe a much
> lower speed will be one of the experiments.

I meant much slower eg. 2x
Doesn't matter as it was always unlikely (unless the log was wrong) that
the error was during that part of the process.

> 
> 
>>
>> I see a couple of weird things in your K3b log:-
>> Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid)
>> (and as noted by tv.debian) the fifo error - which shows the failure is
>> very early in the audio cd creation process. Follow his (sic)
>> suggestions - I'll have a read of your reply.
> 
> I will try losf and fuser next time.

top could also be instructive.

Need to find out which package/s do/es the mp3 to WAV conversion. That
is the step where the problem is taking place. Based on what I have
installed on my system it could be sox, transcode, ffmpeg, toolame or
twolame. My first "guess" would be sox - but in case it isn't obvious, I
really don't know.

A guess is not a good starting place to continue isolation testing from.

*Perhaps someone on this list could post the answer to what K3b uses to
convert mp3s to WAV files in order to create audio cds??*

Anyway - once you know what package does the conversion - you need to
then test the conversion step.

eg. you find out mpg321 is used:-
Create a test directory.
Copy all the mp3 that you used for the unsuccessful audio cd burn into
the test directory.
Change the mp3 files names to numerical names that correspond to the
order you wish them to occur on the audio CD. eg. 000.mp3, 001.mp3 etc.
eg.:-
$ mpg321 -w whatever.mp3 whatever.wav
Then you'd need to use cdrecord or similar to test burn them. I'd avoid
using the package that K3b uses just in case the WAV creation is not the
only problem.

> 
> 
>> I'm reasonably certain it's not a permissions or group membership problem.
> 
> So am I, since in that case I would get the problem every time.

Yes. Agreed.
I "suspect" it's your mp3 files - that's why I'm suggesting you do the
tests with the ones that failed to burn. Lame is pretty good at
conversion but the WAV format required is tricky - also the size can be
an issue.
Soon as we determine what K3b uses for the conversion we can move to the
next stage of fixing the problem.

By the by, what DE do you use?

Re: news/mail client and the text borders

On Mon, 2011-06-13 at 04:28 +0200, Davide Baldini wrote:
> What software do you use for mail/news?
> I see all your messages are proudly well formatted and perfectly fit in
> pages of 80 columns, while I have to push return each line. If i forget, 
> lines gets splitted in my window but then when i send it out i
> see the big mistake...
> 
> is there any margins setting? I use icedove (thunderbird 3.0.11)

You mean 72 characters/line? This doesn't work all the time, when
replying or coping something it can happen that I get never ending
lines. Usually people wish to get an auto-break after character 72.

I'm using Evolution, but to be honest, Mozillas are better Mailers, but
no native Linux mailers, anyway, also those mailers know the never
ending line issue.

I used several mailers, an eccentric extreme might be Wanderlust for
Emacs, for this mailer there never is a line issue, but well, I'm sure
you won't use Wanderlust.

Btw. take a look at the emails headers by viewing the source, usually
there is an entry for the mailer.

I suspect you get something similar to this

dummytextdummytextdumm
ytext
dummytextdummytextdumm
ytext

Right?

Perhaps you need to edit the preferences from 80 to 72 characters.

Hth,

Ralf

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Re: installing .debs from hdd

On 13/06/11 06:27, Robert Holtzman wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 06:45:04AM +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote:
>> On 12/06/11 06:22, Robert Holtzman wrote:
>>> How can I install multiple debs residing in  a directory on my hard drive? 
>>> Unless I missed it, running a search, the Debian Reference manual and the 
>>> Maintainers Guide shows nothing applicable. Any pointers appreciated.
>>>
>> # dpkg -i /path/to/harddrive/*.deb
> 
> That did the trick. Thanks. BTW, where in the docs does it mention this
> situation and point to dpkg? I would love to know where I missed it.
> 
http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-pkg_basics.en.html
man dpkg
dpkg --help

Easy to miss given that much of the introductory documentation focuses
on high-level package management tools.
I find a useful approach is to forget about "remembering how to do
things" and focus on learning "what is possible". If you know what is
possible it's relatively simple to find out how. :-)

Cheers

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Re: news/mail client and the text borders

2011-06-12 Thread Ron Johnson


On 06/12/2011 09:28 PM, Davide Baldini wrote:

What software do you use for mail/news?
I see all your messages are proudly well formatted and perfectly fit in
pages of 80 columns, while I have to push return each line. If i forget,
lines gets splitted in my window but then when i send it out i
see the big mistake...



There is no mistake.  That's how it's supposed to work.  Just type and 
let it wrap at 72 columns.


If you still have questions, take a window print of what you think is a 
mistake and throw it up on some website for us to see.



is there any margins setting? I use icedove (thunderbird 3.0.11)



I've been using ID/Tbird since at lease 2.0.

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Re: How to get Bell Canada 3G USB network up?

I wrote:
> the modem hasn't crashed
> anymore, I don't know yet whether that's just because I'm lucky or the
> newer version fixes the issue, I'll tell after more testing

I was just lucky, it still crashes. So I intend to play with changing
the AT commnds in the mm source.

(Hm, I guess I should probably test some more under Windows to be sure
that it wasn't just a lucky streak there; sadly I deleted the Windows
when I Debianized the netbook, it will take me some time to reinstall
Windows somewhere.)

BTW, regarding your mention of Ubuntu, I'm not on Ubuntu! I'm on
Squeeze. Just in case you were confused. (I only tried Ubuntu live
some time ago to see whether it was better, and it's exactly the
same.)

Christian.

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Re: news/mail client and the text borders

2011-06-12 Thread Davide Baldini

This doesn't seem to be such a common/requested feature though nearly
everyone uses it in newsgroups.

On 06/13/11 05:05, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

> I suspect you get something similar to this
> 
> dummytextdummytextdumm ytext dummytextdummytextdumm ytext
> 
> Right?

exactly

> Perhaps you need to edit the preferences from 80 to 72 characters.

Wish there was such an interface Anyway, I got it to auto fold at 72
regardless of window size, by this rare precious guide
> http://kb.mozillazine.org/Fixed_width_messages
of which i copied here the main part to ease eventual researches and
reduce risk of server lost.

--
Set fixed-width plain text on thunderbird and derived:

On the page Advanced – General, press the Config Editor... button. Set
the Filter to: flowed  Set the following preference to the opposite of
its default (for example, by double-clicking it), so that the setting is:

mailnews.send_plaintext_flowed  user set boolean false

Optionally set the other preference to the opposite of its default (for
example, by double-clicking it). If you do this, then messages that
other people send to you also appear to be fixed-width, even if the
person who sent the message intended it to flow:

mailnews.display.disable_format_flowed_support user set boolean true

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Re: How to get Bell Canada 3G USB network up?

On 13/06/11 13:56, Christian Jaeger wrote:
> I wrote:
>> the modem hasn't crashed
>> anymore, I don't know yet whether that's just because I'm lucky or the
>> newer version fixes the issue, I'll tell after more testing
> 
> I was just lucky, it still crashes. So I intend to play with changing
> the AT commnds in the mm source.

I'd suggest you don't - just yet as it will increase the number of
factors at play.
Let's see if we can get it working with it's (the modem's) current
settings first - acting on the presumption (assumption?) that it would
work as it stands, should you plug it in to a Windoof box.

> 
> (Hm, I guess I should probably test some more under Windows to be sure
> that it wasn't just a lucky streak there; sadly I deleted the Windows
> when I Debianized the netbook, it will take me some time to reinstall
> Windows somewhere.)

Do you use a PIN for you modem??

> 
> BTW, regarding your mention of Ubuntu, I'm not on Ubuntu! I'm on
> Squeeze. Just in case you were confused. (I only tried Ubuntu live
> some time ago to see whether it was better, and it's exactly the
> same.)
> 
> Christian.
> 

I was going off the Canonical string in the nm.log. Given that they
(sic) don't maintain the Debian package.
The Debian package is maintained by Didier Raboud, who if memory serves
me correctly is also the upstream developer.
So my other question is:-
Was that log from trying to connect with Ubuntu - or do you perhaps have
Ubuntu packages installed into Debian??

Usb-modeswitch does the hard work (though sometimes "eject" will achieve
the same result) of exposing the modem - it's easy to test that it has
happened (1410:7030).
That leaves the (relatively) easy part of using the modem.
We'll eliminate network manager from the possible problem causes by just
using pon and poff to test.
I'll give you instructions on how to set that up and test it - if you
could just let me know whether you have a PIN setup for it.

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Re: Re (2): Configuring Iceweasel security policies.

On 13/06/11 09:14, peasth...@shaw.ca wrote:
> From: Scott Ferguson 
> Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 20:20:17 +1000
>> Stepping through what you've described above...
>>

>> You saved the page to "storage of Dalton" presumably "storage" is
>> somewhere below /home/peter
>>
>> eg.:-
>> home/peter/"Peter Lyall Easthope.html"
> 
> Here I stored it as /home/peter/Desktop/index.html.  The choice of name 
> doesn't change the phenomenon being demonstrated.

Exactly! :-)

> 
> We're dealing with two pages.  There is the "primary" page containing 
> the Web link.  Then there is the page Category2.html which is target of 
> the link in the primary page.  Category2.html is always local.  I can 
> open Category2.html when the primary page is local.  Not when the primary 
> page is remote.

Yes! That is how I understand this to work.

> 
>> You then say that the link works (I don't disbelieve you)- but that link
>> is pointing at the root of Dalton, not the root of Peters home directory
>> So "something" I'm assuming in the above scenario is not correct.
> 
> Yes.  There is a filesystem soft link as we discussed a day or two back. 

Ah - thank you for the clarification.
[blinking] It's all coming back to me now

> peter@joule:~$ sudo ln -s /home/peter/Category2.html /Category2.html
> peter@joule:~$ ls -l /C*
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 23 Jun 12 13:16 /Category2.html -> 
> /home/peter/Category2.html
> The filesystem and the Web both having "links" is a possible source of 
> confusion.

Partially.
I bring my own confusion.
I don't like to turn up empty handed ;-p



> The final observation is that there should be a way to open 
> file:///blah.html, regardless of where the link resides.  

In a perfect world ;-p
(see my final comments)

> At present 
> I can open it only with a link in a local page.  The link on a remote 
> server, targetting file:///blah.html, produces only the error message 
> from Iceweasel.  

Yes - that is as it should be. A web page should only be able to load a
file from within it's *purview*. So a http link should point to
somewhere within the root of the web server (eg. /var/www or
~/public_html), and a file link should point to somewhere on the same
machine the link is served from (think of the authentication).

> file:/// is always an absolute file name on the 
> local machine 

Where "local machine" means the machine the page holding the link is
loaded on (where Iceweasel is running).

> isn't it?  Is there a syntax for a non-local file:///?

Not unless you can load a network protocol with a page link. I am unable
to categorically say that is not possible - *perhaps someone
knowledgeable could advise* (it may be trivial).

> Logically, that should not be necessary, but it might help with 
> troubleshooting.
> 
> Hopefully the failure of the non-local case is just a security default  
> which can be overridden.  Otherwise it's a bug in Iceweasel.

With my limited understanding of the network security issues - I doubt
it's a bug.

> 
>> Cheers, and thanks for your patience.
> 
> Thanks for your patience.  The thread is becoming stale and 
> there are too many small digressions.  A fresh description of the 
> problem with new names might help ... except that everyone must be 
> fed up with it by now.
> 
> Regards,   ... Peter E.
> 
> 
> 

To clarify - is it only you that needs to be able to use this file link??
If so - would you only be accessing it from Dalton (or where)??

There are other ways (java, a local monkey server, etc) that might be
used to solve this problem.

Cheers

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Re: How to get Bell Canada 3G USB network up?

> Let's see if we can get it working with it's (the modem's) current
> settings first - acting on the presumption (assumption?) that it would
> work as it stands, should you plug it in to a Windoof box.

(I meant modifying the source in places where it is sending AT
commands that are not persistently changing the modem.

But I don't know enough about the command set so I guess it's a better
idea to first recheck on Windows to be really sure it works reliably
there (if it doesn't, I will just try to return it to Bell on
warranty). This will take me a couple days though.

But your suggestion to use pon/off is even better (I didn't get it to
work a year ago, but I didn't know a couple things then).
)

> Do you use a PIN for you modem??

No.

> I was going off the Canonical string in the nm.log. Given that they
> (sic) don't maintain the Debian package.
> The Debian package is maintained by Didier Raboud, who if memory serves
> me correctly is also the upstream developer.

The message is "Loaded plugin ifupdown: (C) 2008 Canonical Ltd.", and
"Loaded plugin keyfile: (c) 2007 - 2008 Red Hat, Inc."; that only
means they developed the upstream code (and only of these plugins) and
does not imply that they created the packages.

(There are no mentions of Didier Raboud in the source code of the
network-manager and modemmanager packages, although there are almost
no mentions of individual developers anyway, it's all Novell, Red Hat,
Canonical, Free Software Foundation, and a couple other companies like
Ericsson, Samsung. Michael Biebl is current maintainer of both
packages in Debian.)

> So my other question is:-
> Was that log from trying to connect with Ubuntu -
> or do you perhaps have
> Ubuntu packages installed into Debian??

No, and no.

> Usb-modeswitch does the hard work (though sometimes "eject" will achieve
> the same result) of exposing the modem - it's easy to test that it has
> happened (1410:7030).
> That leaves the (relatively) easy part of using the modem.
> We'll eliminate network manager from the possible problem causes by just
> using pon and poff to test.

Alright.

> I'll give you instructions on how to set that up and test it - if you
> could just let me know whether you have a PIN setup for it.

Nope; it just needs the number (#99* or something) and some domain,
which is inet.bell.ca.

Christian.


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Re: How to get Bell Canada 3G USB network up?

> which is..

sorry, I tend to hit sent too quickly.

number => "*99#"
apn => "inet.bell.ca"

PS. here's how this thread started a year ago:
http://forum.nginx.org/read.php?31,107067,202298

Also, for archival purposes (in case anyone ever replies me there),
here's a link to my post on the network-manager mailing list:
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.network.networkmanager.devel/18581

Christian.


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Re: How to get Bell Canada 3G USB network up?

On 13/06/11 15:57, Christian Jaeger wrote:
>> which is..
> 
> sorry, I tend to hit sent too quickly.
> 
> number => "*99#"
> apn => "inet.bell.ca"

That is as it should be.
Bell don't do a prepaid deal do they?

> 
> PS. here's how this thread started a year ago:
> http://forum.nginx.org/read.php?31,107067,202298
> 
> Also, for archival purposes (in case anyone ever replies me there),
> here's a link to my post on the network-manager mailing list:
> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.network.networkmanager.devel/18581
> 
> Christian.
> 
Thanks.
I'm midway through replying to your previous post.
Soon.

Cheers.

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Re: How to get Bell Canada 3G USB network up?