Re: Popcon usage (online tool)

[Camaleón]

On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 20:11:55 -0400, Ralph Katz wrote:

> On 08/05/2010 12:18 PM, Camaleón wrote:

>> I would like to compare the numbers for some packages within the
>> Popcon¹ online tool to get a quick feedback, but it seems to be limited
>> to just one query at a time (I mean, I would like to get something like
>> "http://
>> qa.debian.org/popcon.php?package=package_one&package=package_two" and
>> obtain the stats -in one page- of the selected packages).
>>  
>> Is there a (non-obvious-or-tricked) way to get this?
>> 
>> ¹ http://popcon.debian.org/
> 
> You could just grab the files from links on that page and search
> locally.

Thanks for the hint. 

Indeed, downloading the file (vote) and a simple "grep" does the job 
pretty well.

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Re: OTT: OpenFiler vs Thecus N4200?

[Camaleón]

On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 23:18:54 -0700, Phillipus Gunawan wrote:

(...)
 
> So, if anyone expert can give me a light, would be much appreciated. For
> a started, I will only go with 3x2TB HDD for either option, to be
> RAID-ed as RAID5

Although I would prefer a DIYS dedicated computer to this task (far more 
flexible, upgradeable and tweakable solution), the Thecus unit looks very 
professional and plenty of advanced features. Also, it will be easier to 
manage and handle (for setting up, configure alerts and warnings, RAID 
operations and status, etc...).

Just one "but" here. Should something goes wrong, your options will be 
very limited and "manufacturer dependant". 

OTOH, RAID6 should be preferred over RAID5. The only drawback is that, 
IIRC, a RAID6 level requires a minimum of 4 disks.

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insserv: /home on NFS and local bind (DNS lookups fail on boot)

[Timo Juhani Lindfors]

With

nfs:/home   /home   nfs defaults0   0

in /etc/fstab I get

mount.nfs: Failed to resolve server nfs: Temporary failure in name resolution

on boot. This is because I use local bind9 and /etc/resolv.conf has

nameserver 127.0.0.1

I tried adding " bind9" to the $remote_fs line of /etc/insserv.conf but got

$ sudo insserv --dryrun
insserv: There is a loop between service bind9 and rsyslog if started
insserv:  loop involving service rsyslog at depth 8
insserv:  loop involving service bind9 at depth 7
insserv:  loop involving service mountnfs at depth 5
insserv:  loop involving service atd at depth 11
insserv: exiting now without changing boot order!

Any idea on how to proceed? I'd hate to use numeric IP addresses.


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Re: insserv: /home on NFS and local bind (DNS lookups fail on boot)

[Camaleón]

On Fri, 06 Aug 2010 11:01:01 +0300, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote:

(...)

> I tried adding " bind9" to the $remote_fs line of /etc/insserv.conf but
> got
> 
> $ sudo insserv --dryrun
> insserv: There is a loop between service bind9 and rsyslog if started
> insserv:  loop involving service rsyslog at depth 8 insserv:  loop
> involving service bind9 at depth 7 insserv:  loop involving service
> mountnfs at depth 5 insserv:  loop involving service atd at depth 11
> insserv: exiting now without changing boot order!
> 
> Any idea on how to proceed? I'd hate to use numeric IP addresses.

Mmm, as per "man insserv" page, better try to force the availability of 
bind9 by:

/etc/insserv.conf

***
$named  bind9
***

(remove the "+" which means the service is optional)

And restore the original "$remote_fs" line...

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Re: insserv: /home on NFS and local bind (DNS lookups fail on boot)

[Timo Juhani Lindfors]

Camaleón  writes:
> $namedbind9

Thanks for the effort but this does not seem to be enough:

$ grep -Ev "(^#|^$)" /etc/insserv.conf
$local_fs   +mountall +mountoverflowtmp +umountfs
$network+networking +ifupdown
$named  +named +dnsmasq +lwresd bind9 $network
$remote_fs  $local_fs +mountnfs +mountnfs-bootclean +umountnfs +sendsigs
$syslog +rsyslog +sysklogd +syslog-ng +dsyslog +inetutils-syslogd
$portmapportmap
$time   +hwclock
   glibc udev console-screen keymap keyboard-setup console-setup 
cryptdisks cryptdisks-early checkfs-loop

$ sudo insserv -v
insserv: creating .depend.boot
insserv: creating .depend.start
insserv: creating .depend.stop

But during bootup I still get

mount.nfs: Failed to resolve server nfs: Temporary failure in name resolution

The complete bootup messages are:

 Initializing cgroup subsys cpuset
 Initializing cgroup subsys cpu
 Linux version 2.6.32-5-amd64 (Debian 2.6.32-18) (b...@decadent.org.uk) (gcc 
version 4.3.5 (Debian 4.3.5-2) ) #1 SMP Sat Jul 24 01:47:24 UTC 2010
 Command line: root=/dev/xvda ro console=hvc0
 KERNEL supported cpus:
 Intel GenuineIntel
 AMD AuthenticAMD
 Centaur CentaurHauls
 ACPI in unprivileged domain disabled
 BIOS-provided physical RAM map:
Xen:  - 000a (usable)
Xen: 000a - 0010 (reserved)
Xen: 0010 - 8000 (usable)
 DMI not present or invalid.
 last_pfn = 0x8 max_arch_pfn = 0x4
 init_memory_mapping: -8000
 RAMDISK: 016a5000 - 03085000
 No NUMA configuration found
 Faking a node at -8000
 Bootmem setup node 0 -8000
 NODE_DATA [8000 - ]
 bootmap [0001 -  0001] pages 10
 (7 early reservations) ==> bootmem [00 - 008000]
 #0 [00 - 001000]   BIOS data page ==> [00 - 
001000]
 #1 [0003488000 - 00034a7000]   XEN PAGETABLES ==> [0003488000 - 
00034a7000]
 #2 [006000 - 008000]   TRAMPOLINE ==> [006000 - 
008000]
 #3 [000100 - 0001684754]TEXT DATA BSS ==> [000100 - 
0001684754]
 #4 [00016a5000 - 0003085000]  RAMDISK ==> [00016a5000 - 
0003085000]
 #5 [0003085000 - 0003488000]   XEN START INFO ==> [0003085000 - 
0003488000]
 #6 [10 - 4e1000]  PGTABLE ==> [10 - 
4e1000]
 Zone PFN ranges:
 DMA  0x -> 0x1000
 DMA320x1000 -> 0x0010
 Normal   0x0010 -> 0x0010
 Movable zone start PFN for each node
 early_node_map[2] active PFN ranges
   0: 0x -> 0x00a0
   0: 0x0100 -> 0x0008
 SFI: Simple Firmware Interface v0.7 http://simplefirmware.org
 SMP: Allowing 4 CPUs, 0 hotplug CPUs
 No local APIC present
 APIC: disable apic facility
 PM: Registered nosave memory: 000a - 0010
 Allocating PCI resources starting at 8000 (gap: 8000:8000)
 Booting paravirtualized kernel on Xen
 Xen version: 3.4.1_19718_04-2.1 (preserve-AD)
 NR_CPUS:512 nr_cpumask_bits:512 nr_cpu_ids:4 nr_node_ids:1
 PERCPU: Embedded 30 pages/cpu @8800034dd000 s90328 r8192 d24360 u122880
 pcpu-alloc: s90328 r8192 d24360 u122880 alloc=30*4096
 pcpu-alloc: [0] 0 [0] 1 [0] 2 [0] 3
 Xen: using vcpu_info placement
 Built 1 zonelists in Node order, mobility grouping on.  Total pages: 516028
 Policy zone: DMA32
 Kernel command line: root=/dev/xvda ro console=hvc0
 PID hash table entries: 4096 (order: 3, 32768 bytes)
 Initializing CPU#0
 Checking aperture...
 No AGP bridge found
 Memory: 2025856k/2097152k available (3067k kernel code, 384k absent, 70912k 
reserved, 1887k data, 588k init)
 SLUB: Genslabs=14, HWalign=64, Order=0-3, MinObjects=0, CPUs=4, Nodes=1
 Hierarchical RCU implementation.
 NR_IRQS:4352 nr_irqs:304
 Console: colour dummy device 80x25
 console [tty0] enabled
 console [hvc0] enabled
 installing Xen timer for CPU 0
 Detected 2394.000 MHz processor.
 Calibrating delay loop (skipped), value calculated using timer frequency.. 
4788.00 BogoMIPS (lpj=9576000)
 Security Framework initialized
 SELinux:  Disabled at boot.
 Dentry cache hash table entries: 262144 (order: 9, 2097152 bytes)
 Inode-cache hash table entries: 131072 (order: 8, 1048576 bytes)
 Mount-cache hash table entries: 256
 Initializing cgroup subsys ns
 Initializing cgroup subsys cpuacct
 Initializing cgroup subsys devices
 Initializing cgroup subsys freezer
 Initializing cgroup subsys net_cls
 CPU: L1 I cache: 32K, L1 D cache: 32K
 CPU: L2 cache: 4096K
 CPU 0/0x3 -> Node 0
 CPU: Physical Processor ID: 0
 CPU: Processor Core ID: 3
 Performance Events: unsupported p6 CPU model 15 no PMU driver, software events 
only.
 SMP alternatives: switching to UP code
 installing Xen timer for CPU 1
 SMP alternatives: switching to S

Re: Tiny Console Fonts - Almost Fixed

[Anthony Campbell]

On 05 Aug 2010, Javier Vasquez wrote:
> On 8/5/10, Jordon Bedwell  wrote:
> > On 8/5/2010 12:54 PM, Sven Joachim wrote:
> >> The solution is to use a bigger font, as I had tried to explain.
> >
> > Yes, that was your solution, until he explained (which you merrily
> > missed apparently) that even though he used your "fix" the font resets
> > back to a small size a little ways into the boot.
> 
> It's not that you got small fonts back.  It's that console-tools
> doesn't support the combination of font and size you selected.  A
> message is prompted out of dpkg-reconfigure when that happens usually.
>  So using kbd instead of console-tools, and then running
> dpkg-reconfigure agian, usually takes care of that problem.
> 
> -- 
> Javier.
> 

Doesn't seem to work here. The small font I can live with, but if I
enable KMS another problem appears. Initially the console type face is
large. If I start X and go back to the console with ctrl-alt-F1 the type
face is small. If I do this a second time the console is completely
blank.

I've tried different settings (Terminus, VGA) in dpkg-reconfigure but
that seems to have no effect.

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Re: insserv: /home on NFS and local bind (DNS lookups fail on boot)

[Camaleón]

On Fri, 06 Aug 2010 12:52:11 +0300, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote:

> Camaleón writes:
>> $named   bind9
> 
> Thanks for the effort but this does not seem to be enough:
> 
> $ grep -Ev "(^#|^$)" /etc/insserv.conf 

(...)

> $named  +named +dnsmasq +lwresd bind9 $network 
> $remote_fs  $local_fs +mountnfs +mountnfs-bootclean +umountnfs +sendsigs

Tha looks right (according to the man page).

(...)
 
> $ sudo insserv -v
> insserv: creating .depend.boot
> insserv: creating .depend.start
> insserv: creating .depend.stop
> 
> But during bootup I still get
> 
> mount.nfs: Failed to resolve server nfs: Temporary failure in name
> resolution

So we are doing something wrong here.

Did you read the manual or the docs for insserv? Maybe we are missing some 
step to fully populate the new boot sequence :-?

> The complete bootup messages are:

(...)

> Starting NFS common utilities: statd. mount.nfs: Failed to resolve
> server nfs: Temporary failure in name resolution done.

(...)

> Starting web server: apache2apache2: apr_sockaddr_info_get() failed for
> lindi1 apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully
> qualified domain name, using 127.0.0.1 for ServerName .

(side note: Apache is also giving you a warning)

> Starting domain name service...: bind9. 

Still getting NFS service before bind9. Looks like changes are not applied 
(or ignored).

Check the scripts (nfs and bind9) headers.

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Re: no desktop directory for newly created user and some other issues.

[Alexander Batischev]

Hi!

First of all - you better ask different questions in different treads. But as
far as you asked already...

On Fri, Aug 06, 2010 at 09:36:11AM +0530, vishnu vardhan wrote:
> no desktop directory for newly created user and some other issues.
[skipped]
> 
adduser don't add Desktop directory. Desktop is a DE/WM-specific thing and have
nothing to deal with adduser. I think LXDE should create Desktop directory by
itself if it can't find one... You probably should create bug report about that.

For now, I think it would be enough to run

$ mkdir Desktop

in new user's directory - that would create directory called "Desktop".


> *issue 2* : sometimes I am receiving the following error after booting into
> the system :
> 
> Error: Unable to establish connection with FAM.
> Do you have "FAM" or "Gamin" installed and running?
[skipped]
> 
Well, I don't know what FAM or Gamin is and what they're intended to do, but
you can install one of them and look if it would fix the problem. Actually,
that's what error message advising.


> *issue 3* : at present i am using the following to completly remove the
> packages from the system :
> 
> # aptitude purge --purge-unused
> 
> is there any way better than the above to completly remove the packages from
> the system ?
There isn't, I think. BTW, did you know that you can specify exact package name
instead of purguing unused ones?

# aptitude purge PACKAGENAME


> *issue 4* : how do i gracefully shutdown the system ?
[skipped]
> 
The following command

# shutdown -h now

is probably most common one.


> *issue 5* : how do i find the packages with unmet dependencies ?
Hmm... I don't have an answer to that - maybe someone who is more experienced
in using apt-/aptitude would help you, but I have some general suggestions.

First, you will never face unmet dependencies if you're using only Debian
repositories.

Second, even if you will (for example, you installed some third-party deb
package), following command

# apt-get -f install

probably fix everything.


> *issue 6* : i have two users on my system. how do i restrict another user to
> use shutdown ?
Regular users can't run shutdown. To do so, they should get root's privileges
using su (and entering root's password) or sudo (which is preferred way,
because sudo requires user's password and have a mechanism to restrict user's
abilities).

So if you don't want user run any of administrator's commands (like halt,
shutdown, mkfs etc), you don't have to do anything - that's already done for
you. If you want user to be able run anything but shutdown, you should modify
/etc/sudoers properly.

Entry for sudoers would look like this:

alex ALL = !/sbin/shutdown

where alex is a user's name, and /sbin/shutdown is a path to the utility you
want to disable for user.

Note that it's not totally secure - user can move shutdown to another place and
run it from there, for example.

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Re: What to put on SSD

[Pasi Oja-Nisula]

On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 11:27 PM,  Jochen Schulz wrote:
> What you might want to find out is whether you have a G1 or G2 device.
> G2 supports the TRIM command which helps the SSD to keep up performance.
> Otherwise, performance degrades over time, especially when you keep the
> SSD nearly full. I have read Intel recommends keeping some of the space
> (5-10%) unpartitioned in order to avoid that effect.

Thanks Jochen. Lots of good information and pointers there. My SSD was actually
a G2 device. There was also newer firmware for the disk available
which I installed.

>> Maybe set noatime option,
>
> Good idea, but I do that even on traditional hard disks anyway. I am
> using 'nodelalloc' on my ext4, too.=20

Yes, I also found that I had noatime already on.

>> but do I really need to deal with other filesystems than ext3?
>
> Not really. I converted my /home to ext4, just to try it out, but I
> don't really know what I gain from that. ;-)

I haven't switched home yet, so I have only programs on SSD. But I
might also use ext4 for home.

> You might want to read Ted T'so's blog entries regarding SSDs:
> http://thunk.org/tytso/blog/category/computers/ssd/

This is where the pain starts. I started looking at this and suddenly I
was up to my neck in partition boundary alignment calculations. But
I guess I finally managed to get them right. Probably wouldn't have
made a difference even if I had skipped that part.

So far so good. Bigger programs like OpenOffice and the like start
noticeably quicker, but the difference is not as big as I thought. I'll
see how the system feels once I get home transferred also.

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Re: OTT: OpenFiler vs Thecus N4200?

[Michal]

On 06/08/10 09:31, Camaleón wrote:

On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 23:18:54 -0700, Phillipus Gunawan wrote:

(...)

   

So, if anyone expert can give me a light, would be much appreciated. For
a started, I will only go with 3x2TB HDD for either option, to be
RAID-ed as RAID5
 

Although I would prefer a DIYS dedicated computer to this task (far more
flexible, upgradeable and tweakable solution), the Thecus unit looks very
professional and plenty of advanced features. Also, it will be easier to
manage and handle (for setting up, configure alerts and warnings, RAID
operations and status, etc...).

Just one "but" here. Should something goes wrong, your options will be
very limited and "manufacturer dependant".

OTOH, RAID6 should be preferred over RAID5. The only drawback is that,
IIRC, a RAID6 level requires a minimum of 4 disks.

Greetings,

   
I have 6 RAID6 Thucus 5200 NAS's. They are quite good, reliable, easy to 
manage and so forth but once you have fill the 6 disks, you need another 
NAS. I did replace 6 1TB disks in two of them with 1.5TB disks, but that 
is the biggest size disk they can take, and realistically I would have 
to buy more and more NAS's with time. A better option might be a DIYS 
NAS if your data will only go up and up as you will save money in the 
long run. One thing you might want to look at is ZFS which will let you 
add more and more space to each pool. Yes I think you need 4 disks with 
RAID6 since it can take a 2 disk failure.



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Re: insserv: /home on NFS and local bind (DNS lookups fail on boot)

[Timo Juhani Lindfors]

Camaleón  writes:
> Did you read the manual or the docs for insserv? Maybe we are missing some 
> step to fully populate the new boot sequence :-?

I did try but the man page does not really mention when symlinks are
created. For example

$ echo /etc/rc*/*bind9
/etc/rc0.d/K02bind9 /etc/rc1.d/K02bind9 /etc/rc2.d/S19bind9 /etc/rc3.d/S19bind9 
/etc/rc4.d/S19bind9 /etc/rc5.d/S19bind9 /etc/rc6.d/K02bind9
$ sudo rm /etc/rc*/*bind9
$ sudo insserv
$ echo /etc/rc*/*bind9
/etc/rc*/*bind9

does not seem to recreate them but

$ sudo update-rc.d bind9 enable
update-rc.d: using dependency based boot sequencing
update-rc.d: error: no runlevel symlinks to modify, aborting!
$ sudo ln -s ../init.d/bind9 /etc/rc2.d/S20bind9
$ sudo update-rc.d bind9 enable
update-rc.d: using dependency based boot sequencing
insserv: warning: current start runlevel(s) (2) of script `bind9' overwrites 
defaults (2 3 4 5).
insserv: warning: current stop runlevel(s) (empty) of script `bind9' overwrites 
defaults (0 1 6).
$ echo /etc/rc*/*bind9
/etc/rc2.d/S19bind9

does (and note how S20 was turned into S19). A way to "regenerate"
symlinks for all runlevels thus becomes

$ sudo update-rc.d -f bind9 remove
update-rc.d: using dependency based boot sequencing
$ sudo update-rc.d bind9 defaults
update-rc.d: using dependency based boot sequencing
$ echo /etc/rc*/*bind9
/etc/rc0.d/K02bind9 /etc/rc1.d/K02bind9 /etc/rc2.d/S19bind9 /etc/rc3.d/S19bind9 
/etc/rc4.d/S19bind9 /etc/rc5.d/S19bind9 /etc/rc6.d/K02bind9

If instead of changing "+bind9" to "bind9" in /etc/insserv.conf I
change

# Required-Start:$remote_fs
# Required-Stop: $remote_fs
# Should-Start:  $network $syslog
# Should-Stop:   $network $syslog

to

# Required-Start:$local_fs
# Required-Stop: $remote_fs
# Should-Start:  $network
# Should-Stop:   $network $syslog

in /etc/init.d/bind9 then I do get desired ordering in runlevel 0:

$ echo /etc/rc*/*bind9
/etc/rc0.d/K02bind9 /etc/rc1.d/K02bind9 /etc/rc2.d/S01bind9 /etc/rc3.d/S01bind9 
/etc/rc4.d/S01bind9 /etc/rc5.d/S01bind9 /etc/rc6.d/K02bind9
$ echo /etc/rc*/*mountnfs.sh
/etc/rc0.d/K05umountnfs.sh /etc/rc6.d/K05umountnfs.sh /etc/rcS.d/S16mountnfs.sh

This, however, does not help since mountnfs.sh is run already in
runlevel S. As an exercise I added bind9 to Required-Start of
/etc/init.d/mountnfs.sh

$ sudo update-rc.d -f mountnfs.sh remove
update-rc.d: using dependency based boot sequencing
$ sudo update-rc.d mountnfs.sh defaults
update-rc.d: using dependency based boot sequencing
update-rc.d: warning: mountnfs.sh start runlevel arguments (2 3 4 5) do not 
match LSB Default-Start values (S)
update-rc.d: warning: mountnfs.sh stop runlevel arguments (0 1 6) do not match 
LSB Default-Stop values (none)
$ echo /etc/rc*/*mountnfs.sh
/etc/rc0.d/K05umountnfs.sh /etc/rc6.d/K05umountnfs.sh /etc/rcS.d/S16mountnfs.sh

but mountnfs still gets started in S runlevel and thus before
bind9. Next, I changed Default-Start of /etc/init.d/mountnfs.sh from
"S" to "2" and finally bind9 seems to start before mountnfs.sh:

$ echo /etc/rc*/*mountnfs.sh
/etc/rc0.d/K05umountnfs.sh /etc/rc2.d/S16mountnfs.sh /etc/rc6.d/K05umountnfs.sh
$ echo /etc/rc*/*bind9
/etc/rc0.d/K02bind9 /etc/rc1.d/K02bind9 /etc/rc2.d/S01bind9 /etc/rc3.d/S01bind9 
/etc/rc4.d/S01bind9 /etc/rc5.d/S01bind9 /etc/rc6.d/K02bind9

I have a feeling that there must be a better way but I'll do a test
boot next...


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Re: insserv: /home on NFS and local bind (DNS lookups fail on boot)

[Timo Juhani Lindfors]

Camaleón  writes:
> So we are doing something wrong here.

It seems that /etc/init.d/mountnfs.sh does not actually call mount, it
is done by

/etc/network/if-up.d/mountnfs

when a network interface is brought up.

Should I try starting bind9 before network is brought up? That sounds
very counter-intuitive.


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Re: Can only access Debian website through proxy

[pierre poulos]

On 8/5/10, Jochen Schulz  wrote:
> George-Cristian Bîrzan:
>> On Thu, 2010-08-05 at 21:56 +1000, pierre poulos wrote:
>>> Cannot initiate the connection to security.debian.org:21
>>> (2001:388:1034:2900::26). - connect (101 Network is unreachable) [IP:
>>> 2001:388:1034:2900::26 21]
>>
>> Try, as root:
>> sysctl -w net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6=1
>>
>> You seem to have a default route for IPv6, but no connectivity, so if
>> you want IPv6, you could try to fix that.
>
> ACK, that appears to be the problem. To make the sysctl setting
> permanent, you need to edit /etc/sysctl.conf and add a line
>
> net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6=1
>
> J.
> --
> My memories gild my life with rare transcendance.
> [Agree]   [Disagree]
>  
>

Ok, as root..

/home/pierre# sysctl -w net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6=1
error: "net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6" is an unknown key

Next -- Look for file /etc/sysctl.conf  --OK found it

Now, insert Jochens line --OK done

The file now shows..

#
# /etc/sysctl.conf - Configuration file for setting system variables
# See /etc/sysctl.d/ for additonal system variables
# See sysctl.conf (5) for information.
#

#kernel.domainname = example.com

# Uncomment the following to stop low-level messages on console
#kernel.printk = 4 4 1 7

##3
# Functions previously found in netbase
#

# Uncomment the next two lines to enable Spoof protection (reverse-path filter)
# Turn on Source Address Verification in all interfaces to
# prevent some spoofing attacks
#net.ipv4.conf.default.rp_filter=1
#net.ipv4.conf.all.rp_filter=1

# Uncomment the next line to enable TCP/IP SYN cookies
# This disables TCP Window Scaling (http://lkml.org/lkml/2008/2/5/167),
# and is not recommended.
#net.ipv4.tcp_syncookies=1

# Uncomment the next line to enable packet forwarding for IPv4
#net.ipv4.ip_forward=1

# Uncomment the next line to enable packet forwarding for IPv6
#net.ipv6.conf.all.forwarding=1
##

net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6=1


###
# Additional settings - these settings can improve the network
# security of the host and prevent against some network attacks
# including spoofing attacks and man in the middle attacks through
# redirection. Some network environments, however, require that these
# settings are disabled so review and enable them as needed.
#
# Ignore ICMP broadcasts
#net.ipv4.icmp_echo_ignore_broadcasts = 1
#
# Ignore bogus ICMP errors
#net.ipv4.icmp_ignore_bogus_error_responses = 1
#
# Do not accept ICMP redirects (prevent MITM attacks)
#net.ipv4.conf.all.accept_redirects = 0
#net.ipv6.conf.all.accept_redirects = 0
# _or_
# Accept ICMP redirects only for gateways listed in our default
# gateway list (enabled by default)
# net.ipv4.conf.all.secure_redirects = 1
#
# Do not send ICMP redirects (we are not a router)
#net.ipv4.conf.all.send_redirects = 0
#
# Do not accept IP source route packets (we are not a router)
#net.ipv4.conf.all.accept_source_route = 0
#net.ipv6.conf.all.accept_source_route = 0
#
# Log Martian Packets
#net.ipv4.conf.all.log_martians = 1
#
# The contents of /proc//maps and smaps files are only visible to
# readers that are allowed to ptrace() the process
# kernel.maps_protect = 1


Now, reboot the machine
Now I try www.debian.org with no proxy and...  still no connection :-(

Oh and btw, I don't think I have ever used IPv6.


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pl2303 Serial/USB problem - /dev/ttyUSB0 not created

[Barry Samuels]

Desktop and Laptop both have Debian Testing installed and up to date; both 
with self-compiled kernel 2.6.32.

I have a CurrentCost electricity usage monitor which is normally connected 
to my desktop via USB and is working properly. When the unit is plugged in 
I get a number of lines in syslog like so:

kernel: usb 4-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 12
kernel: pl2303 4-1:1.0: pl2303 converter detected
kernel: usb 4-1: pl2303 converter now attached to ttyUSB0

I am trying to get this same device working on my laptop but this time I 
see the following in syslog:

kernel: pl2303: Prolific PL2303 USB to serial adaptor driver

but nothing else i.e no 'attached to ttyUSB0'. Looking in /dev there is no 
ttyUSBn

Whereas the desktop also loads the pl2303 and usbserial kernel modules 
automatically when the device is connected the laptop does not and when I 
load them manually I get only the above mentioned line in syslog.

When the USB device is plugged in there is apparently no reaction from the 
operating system on the laptop when watching /var/syslog using 'tail'. 
That, I think, is the main problem. Other USB devices on the laptop do 
work.

Needless to say the software which monitors the device won't connect.

Any suggestions please?

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Re: Can only access Debian website through proxy

[George-Cristian Bîrzan]

On Fri, 2010-08-06 at 22:58 +1000, pierre poulos wrote:
> Ok, as root..
> 
> /home/pierre# sysctl -w net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6=1
> error: "net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6" is an unknown key
>
> [snip]
> 
> Now, reboot the machine
> Now I try www.debian.org with no proxy and...  still no connection :-(

If your kernel doesn't support that (it might be a newer sysctl, though
my 2.6.18 machines have it...), it doesn't help putting it in
sysctl.conf. What kernel version are you using?

> Oh and btw, I don't think I have ever used IPv6.

Alternatively, I guess you could add to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf a
line that says:

blacklist ipv6

then reboot. That should prevent the module from being loaded in the
first place. If you compiled your own kernel and built in support for
IPv6, you might just disable IPv6 for iceweasel. Go to about:config and
enable network.dns.disableIPv6.

Either that, or get a Debian kernel. :-)

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Re: insserv: /home on NFS and local bind (DNS lookups fail on boot)

[Timo Juhani Lindfors]

Timo Juhani Lindfors  writes:
> Should I try starting bind9 before network is brought up? That sounds
> very counter-intuitive.

Replying to myself here: this fails since bind9 says "no networks
configured". A hack that works for now seems to be to add

if [ "$(pidof named)" = "" ]; then
/etc/init.d/bind9 start
fi

to /etc/network/if-up.d/bind9. If we assume that "lo" is the first
interface that is brought up then bind9 gets started after lo has been
brought up but before "br0" has been brought up. This then guarantees
that when "br0" is brought up /etc/network/if-up.d/mountnfs has
working DNS.

A better solution would be appreciated.


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Re: Can only access Debian website through proxy

[George-Cristian Bîrzan]

On Fri, 2010-08-06 at 16:09 +0300, George-Cristian Bîrzan wrote:
> ively, I guess you could add to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf a
> line that says:
> 
> blacklist ipv6
> 
> then reboot. That should prevent the module from being loaded in the
> first place. If you compiled your own kernel and built in support for
> IPv6

Actually, it seems IPv6 support has been builtin in Debian kernels since
June last year. Shows how much I use it. :-)

Apparently, the proper way to disable IPv6 is to append ipv6.disable=1
to your kernel line in grub. If you're using grub legacy, go
to /boot/grub/menu.lst and add "ipv6.disable=1" to the line saying:

# defoptions=

(Leave it commented, and if it already has something, just add a space
at the end, then the ipv6.disable=1 bit).

If you're using grub2, go to /etc/default/grub and add it to the

GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="root=/dev/somethin" line, add a space then
ipv6.disable=1.



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Re: Can only access Debian website through proxy

[George-Cristian Bîrzan]

On Fri, 2010-08-06 at 16:22 +0300, George-Cristian Bîrzan wrote:
> On Fri, 2010-08-06 at 16:09 +0300, George-Cristian Bîrzan wrote:
> > ively, I guess you could add to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf a
> > line that says:
> > 
> > blacklist ipv6
> > 
> > then reboot. That should prevent the module from being loaded in the
> > first place. If you compiled your own kernel and built in support for
> > IPv6
> 
> Actually, it seems IPv6 support has been builtin in Debian kernels since
> June last year. Shows how much I use it. :-)
> 
> Apparently, the proper way to disable IPv6 is to append ipv6.disable=1
> to your kernel line in grub. If you're using grub legacy, go
> to /boot/grub/menu.lst and add "ipv6.disable=1" to the line saying:
> 
> # defoptions=
> 
> (Leave it commented, and if it already has something, just add a space
> at the end, then the ipv6.disable=1 bit).
> 
> If you're using grub2, go to /etc/default/grub and add it to the
> 
> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="root=/dev/somethin" line, add a space then
> ipv6.disable=1.

Sigh. Not my best day today. After you do these, run update-grub to
actually update the config file, then reboot.

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Re: insserv: /home on NFS and local bind (DNS lookups fail on boot)

[Camaleón]

On Fri, 06 Aug 2010 15:22:19 +0300, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote:

> Camaleón writes:
>> So we are doing something wrong here.
> 
> It seems that /etc/init.d/mountnfs.sh does not actually call mount, it
> is done by
> 
> /etc/network/if-up.d/mountnfs
> 
> when a network interface is brought up.
> 
> Should I try starting bind9 before network is brought up? That sounds
> very counter-intuitive.

That does not make sense to me either :-/

A quick question: your log marks NFS service as "done", does it really 
works despite the warning or the share is not getting mounted once the 
system boots?

Another question that rounds my head... does the resolution fails because 
of bind9 not being available or is it failing due to the network is not 
still ready? :-?

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Re: Can only access Debian website through proxy

[Camaleón]

El 2010-08-06 a las 22:18 +1000, pierre poulos escribió:

(resending to the list)

> On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 7:00 AM, Camaleón wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 04 Aug 2010 19:34:06 +1000, pierre poulos wrote:
> >
> > > Using Iceweasel, Google Chrome and Lynx I cannot access http;//
> > > www.debian.org or any of the mirrors without using an external web
> > > proxy. My isp says they can access fine on their own machines. My wife's
> > > computer running Firefox on WinXP sp3 on the same connection also works
> > > fine. I have had to change my apt sources list as it was unable to
> > > access the
> > > security updates. What's wrong with my machine. I am running lenny
> > > current.
> >
> > Does it happen with any site or just some?
> >
> > Is not the first time I've seen an ISP having troubles for accessing
> > specific websites/servers/network routes which can be only reached using
> > an external proxy or another connection (i.e., by dial-up session with
> > another ISP).
> >
> > Give them a prudential time lapse and check later if the error still
> > persists.
> 
> Hello
> I have tried hitting all sorts of websites without proxy --hack-sites,
> warez, pirates, porn, banned-sites and everything you can think of.

:-)

> Everything is successful except www.debian.org which needs a proxy.

Ouch.

Well, that sounds indeed very weird. Even more taking that any problem 
on the ISP side should be already fixed :-(

Does another network tests to that host work or also fail in the same 
manner? I mean, ping, wget, dig, traceroute... you can try all of these 
to see how it goes:

ping -c 3 www.debian.org
wget www.debian.org
dig www.debian.org
traceroute www.debian.org

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Re: maintainer not responding

[Osamu Aoki]

Hi,

I thank your efforts but I have to remind you that you need to find right
way to make change in Debian.  None of us are paid to be full time.
There are many loose ends.  Reporting to wrong ML is not the best action.

What you are telling us is:
1. packages maintained by neno...@sacredspiral.co.uk is not getting good
   attention. (Unfortunately, many are there...)
2. You are not the one made patches etc. and no particular technical
   discussion is intended here.

On Thu, Aug 05, 2010 at 02:38:42PM -0700, Jeremiah Mahler wrote:
> I reviewed the outstanding bugs shown in
> [https://mail.google.com/mail/?shva=1#label/debian-lists/12a43a9b406864ec]
...

This debian-user@lists.debian.org ML is not the place to do this.

I suggest you to do:

1. Send an additional mail to a bug with undeniable suggestion which
   demands response nicely to check whether the maintainer is active or not.

2. If you get no response, follow procedures described in:
http://www.debian.org/doc/developers-reference/beyond-pkging.html#mia-qa

Thanks again,

Osamu


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Re: insserv: /home on NFS and local bind (DNS lookups fail on boot)

[Sven Joachim]

On 2010-08-06 10:01 +0200, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote:

> With
>
> nfs:/home   /home   nfs defaults0   0
>
> in /etc/fstab I get
>
> mount.nfs: Failed to resolve server nfs: Temporary failure in name resolution
>
> on boot. This is because I use local bind9 and /etc/resolv.conf has
>
> nameserver 127.0.0.1

And bind9 is started after mountnfs, that's for sure.

> I tried adding " bind9" to the $remote_fs line of /etc/insserv.conf but got
>
> $ sudo insserv --dryrun
> insserv: There is a loop between service bind9 and rsyslog if started
> insserv:  loop involving service rsyslog at depth 8
> insserv:  loop involving service bind9 at depth 7
> insserv:  loop involving service mountnfs at depth 5
> insserv:  loop involving service atd at depth 11
> insserv: exiting now without changing boot order!

Yes, bind9 depends itself on $remote_fs so there is a loop.

> Any idea on how to proceed? I'd hate to use numeric IP addresses.

Changing both bind9's and rsyslog's dependency to $local_fs (either in
the init scripts themselves or in override scripts in
/etc/insserv/overrides) and starting rsyslog and bind9 in runlevel S
might work.

This sucks, but it is mainly because Debian's boot system starts the
network in runlevel S already which is IMO wrong but hard to correct.

Sven


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Re: maintainer not responding

[Patrick Ouellette]

I think you may be missing the poing a bit.  A 'TODO' list is nice,
but what is stopping YOU from forwarding the information to upstream
or checking the upstream project to see if they know about the issue?

What SPECIFIC package(s) in the list do YOU use, and what SPECIFIC
issues are YOU having?

I'm not saying all the bugs don't need to be addressed, but it is a
lot easier to motivate people when someone has a specific need rather
than picking a developer's package set and complaining about every one 
of the packages with a bug report.

Again I ask YOU what efforts have YOU made to contact the maintainer?

Pat

By the way, your Google email link doesn't work for me to look at
the referenced message.

On Thu, Aug 05, 2010 at 02:38:42PM -0700, Jeremiah Mahler wrote:
> 
> I reviewed the outstanding bugs shown in
> [https://mail.google.com/mail/?shva=1#label/debian-lists/12a43a9b406864ec]
> and below is a short summary of what I think needs to be done next.
> The 'TODO' sections indicate something that needs to be done by a
> Debian maintainer (packaging, forwarding, etc).
> The 'TODO_USER' sections indicate something that could be done by a
> regular user.
> 
>   #406051  qpopper corrupts mailbox when quota exceeded
> TODO: forward upstream?
> 
>   #437746  libgtkglext1: Program exit via window manager window close
> crashes xserver
> WAITING: message sent asking for info regarding video driver.
> 
>   #537575  uninstallable in unstable
> seems to be fixed in current version, installed OK
> TODO: close?
> 
>   #548383 qpopper: The PAM configuration file does not fit to the
> latest libpam-modules package
> TODO: patch needs to be applied and checked
> 
>   #573522  qpopper: error msg.: fetchmail: Query status=3 (AUTHFAIL)
> Some difference between lenny and squeeze causes qupopper to fail.
> TODO: Someone familiar with qpopper may have some insight.
> Or if the user provided a more detailed description of how to
> reproduce this would help.
> 
>   #242944 qpopper: RFC incompliant behavior
> TODO: forward upstream
> 
>   #275918 qpopper ignores -R or set reverse-lookup = false config item.
> TODO: report is from 2004, check if bug still present in latest
> version.
> 
>   #323492  libgtkglext1-dev: example can segfault
> TODO: forward upstream
> 
>   #337022  libgtkglext1: bug somewhere near gdk_gl_get_proc_address()
> in gdkglquery-x11.c:408
> reproducible bug
> TODO: forward upstream
> 
>   #406687  GLXBadContext error happening only with i810 driver with DRI
> TODO: forward upstream?
> 
>   #471483  not available on ppc
> Is libgtkglext1 available for ppc?
> According to
> 
> [http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=libgtkglext1&searchon=names&suite=stable§ion=all]
> it looks like it is available.
> TODO: bug is from 2008, it seems powerpc is available now. close bug?
> 
>   #516088  E: qpopper: subprocess post-removal script returned error
> exit status 1
> It seems to be working now.
> WAITING: Message sent asking user to verify if problem is still present.
> 
>   #518514  pidgin-mpris: Please remove bmpx dependency
> TODO: update package to remove obsolete dependency
> 
>   #587984  Outdated API - please update to 0.62
> TODO: update package for new upstream version
> 
>   #486579  qpopper: debian/watch fails to report upstream version
> uscan of qpopper says it needs a new version.
> TODO_USER: verify problem is still present
> 
>   #529137  qpopper: please upgrade your watch file
> similar to bug#486579
> TODO: merge with #486579?
> 
>   #558512  Missing autoreconf to fix 554821 or similar bugs in the future
> Detailed description of what needs to be fixed.
> TODO: update package for autoreconf
> 
>   #590543  audacious-dumb: remove shared library linking
> Has patch to removed dependency on libdumb.so
> TODO: check if removing dependency makes sense,
>   update package if it does.
> 

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Re: Tiny Console Fonts - Almost Fixed

[Anthony Campbell]

On 06 Aug 2010, Anthony Campbell wrote:
> > 
> 
> Doesn't seem to work here. The small font I can live with, but if I
> enable KMS another problem appears. Initially the console type face is
> large. If I start X and go back to the console with ctrl-alt-F1 the type
> face is small. If I do this a second time the console is completely
> blank.
> 
> I've tried different settings (Terminus, VGA) in dpkg-reconfigure but
> that seems to have no effect.
> 

Sorry to follow up to myself, but I found a solution in a bug report for
KMS. If I have the radeon module loaded at boot time the blank screen in
the console doesn't happen.

Anthony

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Re: Tiny Console Fonts - Almost Fixed

[Thomas H. George]

On Thu, Aug 05, 2010 at 04:07:26PM -0400, Thomas H. George wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 05, 2010 at 02:49:48PM -0400, Tom H wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 1:49 PM, Thomas H. George  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I don't understand grub's menu.lst.  It begins with several entries
> > > and the beginning of the AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST and within this the
> > > start of the default options list.  Within this list is
> > >
> > > #kopt=root=UUID= where  is the UUID of the root partition which
> > > was previously known as /dev/sdb1
> > >
> > > The following entry is
> > > groot=(hd0,0)
> > >
> > > though at some point in the original setup I specified writing the MBR
> > > to /dev/sda and to /dev/sdb.  I had used lilo to write a different MBR
> > > to /dev/hda.  Subsequently grub failed to boot the system because it
> > > could not find the root partition but lilo could still boot the system
> > > and running update-grub corrected grub's problem.
> > >
> > > After a number of additional default entries the end of the default
> > > options list is reached.  Following this is the entry
> > >
> > > title           Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.30-1-amd64
> > > root            (hd0,0)
> > > kernel  /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.30-1-amd64 root=/dev/sdb1 ro
> > > initrd  /boot/initrd.img-2.6.30-1-amd64
> > >
> > > followed by several more such entries for earlier kernels and then the
> > > END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST.  Since the current kernel and two
> > > other recent kernels were not included in the above list I added
> > >
> > > title           Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.32-5-amd64
> > > root            (hd0,0)
> > > kernel  /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-5-amd64 root=/dev/sdb1 ro quiet splash
> > > vga=0x311
> > >
> > > to the end of the file, saved the file, ran update-grub and rebooted.
> > > The scripts still change to the tiny font in middle of the reboot.
> > >
> > > Questions: Why are the newer kernels not included in the Automagic
> > > listings?  Is there a conflict between root (hd0,0) and root=/dev/sdb1?
> > > Why does the system still switch to tiny fonts during bootup?
> > > initrd  /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-5-amd64
> > 
> > "kopt=..." defines the /boot where the automagic kernels are and the
> > options to give the kernel line for these kernels (sdb1, in your case)
> > and "groot=..." defines the /boot where /boot/grub is (that's why it
> > is (hdX,Y) and not (hdX) even though you've written grub's stage 1 to
> > the mbr).
> > 
> > Given that you installed grub to sda and sdb, you must have a raid
> > setup so mixing an sdb1 / and an sda1 /boot is weird but the new
> > kernels should be seen by update-grub; "should" is the operative
> > word...
> > 
> I do not have a raid setup and /boot is in the root directory on sdb1.
> History: /sdb is a 71G hard drive and all the system subdirectories are
> subdirectories of the root directory.  sda is a 300G hard drive added to
> store large collections of music, photo and video files.  hda is left
> over from the days - long gone - when I thought I occasionally needed 
> run windoz.
> 
> When I recently updated grub the installation script specifically
> recommended installing the MBR on each hard drive.  Earlier I had lilo
> put an MBR on hda and this proved useful when the grub boot failed as
> the lilo boot still worked.  I just tested booting from hda and found
> kernel-2.6.32-5 is now too large but the boot of kernel-2.6.32-3 still
> works and the system came up with 640x480 resolution and large fonts.
> This is not a result of the changes to grub.  When I was using
> kernel-2.6.32-3 I had to restore an old copy of xorg.conf otherwise the
> boot would not use the nv driver.  When I switched to kernel-2.6.32-5 I
> had to remove the xorg.conf file.
> 
> 
> > I am curious though. Since you are running testing or unstable, could
> > it be that your bootloader is grub2 and that update-grub is updating
> > grub.cfg rather than menu.lst? That would also explain why "vga=0x311"
> > was ineffective.
> > 
> You have pinpointed the problem.  The system is Squeeze and when
> update-grub is run it reports updating grub.cfg.
> > 
I gave up and installed kbd.  On boot up the initial font was large.
About half way through the boot up the scripts changed to tiny fonts and
then after a half dozen lines switched back to large fonts.  The console
is now very readable but when mutt displays the threaded list of
postings the lines and arrows are replaces by strange characters.

Tom
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Re: OTT: OpenFiler vs Thecus N4200?

[Stan Hoeppner]

Phillipus Gunawan put forth on 8/6/2010 1:18 AM:
> Hi There,
> 
> Sorry if this is a bit 'Off The Topic' discussion. I am planning to get 
> fileserver dedicated for iSCSI.
> 
> My option is to grab Thecus N4200 or to build OpenFiler with any Duo-Core 
> CPU, 
> 1G RAM, RocketRAID 644 controller, and other basic PC stuff.

The RocketRAID 644 is a POS fakeraid card, and it's only for external drives,
which doesn't make sense for your application.  It's junk, stay away from it.

Get one of these instead:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816103102&cm_re=SFF-8087-_-16-103-102-_-Product

It's a real hardware RAID card with 128MB of onboard read/write cache.  And
it's actually $15 cheaper than that POS HighPoint card.  It'll run 4 internal
drives.  Buy 5 identical 2TB drives now, for 4 live and one spare on the
shelf, and set the 4 up as RAID 10.  You'll have 4TB of usable storage, and
the best performance plus failure protection of any RAID level.

RAID rule #1:  always buy at least one spare drive during the initial purchase
so when you replace a failed drive in the future all drives are identical.
This eliminates potential firmware performance and compatibility problems in
the future.  A 2TB drive purchased 3 years from now will be a totally
different drive, including spindle speed, firmware revision, etc, no matter
the manufacturer.  Technology doesn't sit still; it's always moving forward.

Get this cable to connect the drives to the controller:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816116099&cm_re=SFF-8087-_-16-116-099-_-Product

Or if your PSU doesn't have SATA power connectors, get this cable instead:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816118126&cm_re=SFF-8087-_-16-118-126-_-Product

If you'd rather have the additional storage capacity and slight cost
effectiveness increase of RAID5, go with this LSI card that supports RAID5
(the Adaptec card above doesn't, one of the reasons it's only $205):

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816118106

It's $125 more than the Adaptec, but has more RAID modes and has 512MB of
cache vs 128MB on the Adaptec.  If you go with this LSI card, buy 4 x 2TB
drives, configure 3 as RAID5 and the 4th drive as a standby spare, preferably
not powered on until needed when a drive fails two or 5 years down the road.
If the spare has been powered on all those years, why would you expect it to
be a reliable spare at that point?  Keep it powered off and it's like new 5
years from now, which is what you want/need.

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Debian Squeeze Frozen

[Brent Clark]

http://lists.debian.org/debian-annou.../msg9.html

Flippen AWESOME.

Thanks to everyone. Now the real work begins.

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Re: repair partition: wrong size

[hugo vanwoerkom]

Bob McGowan wrote:

On 08/05/2010 07:07 AM, hugo vanwoerkom wrote:

Hi,

I just noticed that the partition sizes on my usb disk are wrong.

debian:/# fsck -f /dev/sdb2
fsck 1.41.3 (12-Oct-2008)
e2fsck 1.41.3 (12-Oct-2008)
The filesystem size (according to the superblock) is 1953905 blocks
The physical size of the device is 487974 blocks
Either the superblock or the partition table is likely to be corrupt!
Abort? yes

These are the sizes reported:

debian:/# sfdisk -l /dev/sdb

Disk /dev/sdb: 9729 cylinders, 255 heads, 63 sectors/track
Units = cylinders of 8225280 bytes, blocks of 1024 bytes, counting from 0

   Device Boot Start End   #cyls#blocks   Id  System
/dev/sdb1   *  0+972 973-   7815591   83  Linux
/dev/sdb29731215 2431951897+  83  Linux
/dev/sdb3   121629181703   13679347+  83  Linux
/dev/sdb4   291997286810   547013255  Extended
/dev/sdb5   2919+   3891 973-   7815591   83  Linux
/dev/sdb6   3892+   4864 973-   7815591   83  Linux
/dev/sdb7   4865+   97284864-  39070048+  83  Linux


sdb2 an sdb3 are wrong, they both ought to be 7815591.

How does one repair that?

Hugo



Have you tried the '-b' option, to use an alternate superblock?

If the primary has been corrupted, using an alternate would/should fix
the issue, assuming the alternate is OK.

See the man page for e2fsck for a way to figure out where the alternates
were created.



Actually I was wrong: The sizes of sdb2+3 are correct, but what I cannot 
figure out is how the physical size of 487974 blocks for sdb2 is determined.

The partition has nothing on it that is useful. Just delete and reallocate?

Hugo


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Re: When is best time to upgrade lenny to squeeze

[PaulNM]

Jordan Metzmeier wrote:


On 08/04/2010 08:31 PM, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote:

What do you do if you had access to just one machine (say your personal
laptop) and don't have the luxury of running multiple machines (one for
testing and one for production etc.,)? Sometimes, it is better/practical to
jump the wagon little bit ahead of time and do some testing, before
settling down with the stable version for the next 2-3 years.


I think in that case, you should leave the testing up to the people who
do. There is a wide variety of virtualization software now that can be
used for this kind of testing.

Virtualbox for example can run entirely off software, without the need
for virtualization support in the CPU (although much slower).


	While I agree with this suggestion, be aware that virtualbox cannot run 
64-bit guests unless the processor has VT extensions.  If you must run a 
64-bit guest and don't have a 64-bit processor with VT extentions, use 
qemu.  That can actually emulate different processors, like ppc and 
sparc.  I've even run a small 64-bit guest on a 32-bit host (Pentium 4), 
though it was very slow.


	If you'll be running the VM only when logged in, virtualbox is 
definitely preferred. If you need to run headless servers that start 
automatically on bootup, qemu is the way to go.




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Hope this helps,
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Re: When is best time to upgrade lenny to squeeze

[Jari Fredriksson]

On 6.8.2010 18:35, PaulNM wrote:
> If you'll be running the VM only when logged in, virtualbox is
> definitely preferred. If you need to run headless servers that start
> automatically on bootup, qemu is the way to go.
> 

I use VirtualBox just like you described, but I use VMWare Server 2.0
for the headless servers. Is qemu somehow better? My host is a Windows 7
64bit.

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Re: When is best time to upgrade lenny to squeeze

[PaulNM]

Jari Fredriksson wrote:

On 6.8.2010 18:35, PaulNM wrote:

If you'll be running the VM only when logged in, virtualbox is
definitely preferred. If you need to run headless servers that start
automatically on bootup, qemu is the way to go.



I use VirtualBox just like you described, but I use VMWare Server 2.0
for the headless servers. Is qemu somehow better? My host is a Windows 7
64bit.



	Qemu was a lighter weight alternative to Virtualbox for me.  My company 
was experimenting with freenas, which was originally on an actual box. 
I moved it to a VM on another 24/7 Debian box to save on power usage, 
and needed the VM to start every time the Debian box started.


	If you're familiar and comfortable with VMWare, use it.  VMWare and 
Virtualbox virtualize cpu calls, while qemu emulates the entire 
processor.  This means qemu is much more flexible in what it can run, 
but also slower.


Hope this helps,
PaulNM


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Clef 3G+ - E1752 sous Debian

[Bernard]

Bonjour à tous,

Dans une précédente enfilade, je vous ai fait part de mes problèmes pour
faire reconnaître et connecter une clef Huawei 3G (19d2:2000 =>
19d2:0052) avec un pack SFR). Avec votre aide, et celle de l'utilitaire
"Sakis 3G", j'ai réussi. Durant une quinzaine loin de chez moi, j'ai pu
me connecter quotidiennement à Internet, sans problème et généralement
avec un bon débit, sur mon pack de 15 heures valable un mois (39 Euros).

Cette solution SFR n'était que provisoire, et j'attendais de recevoir la
carte SIM pour ma récente souscription à la formule "Orange Internet
Everywhere". Mon souci, désormais, est de faire fonctionner cette
nouvelle clef sous Linux.

C'est une Huawei E1752, ID: 12d1:1446 (mass storage device) qui, après
commutation en modem, affiche 12d1:141b. "Sakis3G" ne permet pas sa
connexion, et ce, contrairement à mon autre carte. "Sakis 3G" opère la
commutation OK, ainsi que je puis le constater avec dmesg (GSM modem
converter detected now attached to ttyUSB0... now attached to ttyUSB1.),
puis il semble obtenir une connexion qui dure chaque fois une fraction
de seconde :

*
pppd 2.4.4 started by root, uid 0
using interface ppp0
Connect: ppp0 <---> /dev/ttyUSB0
Warning: secret file /etc/ppp/pap-secrets has world and/or group access
Warning: secret file /etc/ppp/chap-secrets has world and/or group access
CHAP authentification succeeded
CHAP authentification succeeded (ligne répétée)
Modem hangup
Connexion terminated
Exit.
**

et çà recommence plusieurs fois, jusqu'à l'interruption par CTRL-C.
Ceci étant fait, j'ai fait des tests avec les outils de base, et les
paramètres qui m'avaient été donnés principalement par Sylvain, Daniel
et Frédéric, en ne retenant que ce qui était sensé correspondre aux
connexions 'Orange' (je dis 'sensé correspondre', car il s'agissait
d'une clef Huawei E160E, alors que la mienne est une E1752). Voici donc
les tests effectués, et les résultats obtenus, lesquels sont
pratiquement identiques à ceux obtenus avec "Sakis 3G" :

D'abord, j'ai réinstallé les packages usb_modeswitch et
usb_modeswitch_data proposés par "www.draisberghof.de". Ma clef E1752 y
est supportée et, apparemment, gérée convenablement, le fichier data
correspondant aux id 12d1:1446 ==> 12d1:141b existe bien. Lorsque je
branche la clef dans un port USB, l'icône CDROM n'apparaît pas sur le
bureau de Gnome, et un lsusb me donne bien 12d1:141b ; dmesg me redonne
les mêmes messages qu'avec Sakis 3G, c'est à dire que le GSM modem est
bien détecté et attaché à ttyUSB0 et à ttyUSB1.

A ce stade, tout paraît OK... à un bémol près: cette commutation
automatique grâce à usb_modeswitch ne fonctionne qu'une seule fois par
boot du système. Si je débranche la clef, puis la rebranche, c'est le
'mass storage device' qui apparaît, et il me faut faire un re-boot pour
que cela remarche. Mais on verra ce problème plus tard.

Voyons maintenant la tentative de connexion.
Voici le contenu de mon /etc/wvdial.conf :

**
[Dialer Defaults]
Modem = /dev/ttyUSB0
Init2 = ATZ
Init3 = ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0
ISDN=0
Modem Type = 3G Orange
Phone = *99#
Username = orange.ie
Password = orange.ie
*

Donc, je tape :
sudo comgt -d /dev/ttyUSB0

Mon code PIN m'est demandé. Je l'entre (). Après quelques secondes,
j'ai ceci :

*
SIM ready
Waiting for Registration..(120 sec max)
Registered on Home network: "20801",2
Signal Quality: 11,99
***

Alors je tape :
sudo wvdial

**
b...@dell-desktop:~$ sudo wvdial
--> WvDial: Internet dialer version 1.60
--> Cannot get information for serial port.
--> Initializing modem.
--> Sending: ATZ
ATZ
OK
--> Sending: ATZ
ATZ
OK
--> Sending: ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0
ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0
OK
--> Modem initialized.
--> Sending: ATDT*99#
--> Waiting for carrier.
ATDT*99#
CONNECT
--> Carrier detected. Waiting for prompt.
--> Don't know what to do! Starting pppd and hoping for the best.
--> Starting pppd at Fri Aug 6 18:09:22 2010
--> Pid of pppd: 29127
--> Using interface ppp0
--> Disconnecting at Fri Aug 6 18:09:24 2010
**

Les codes sont bien envoyés... (mais sont ils les bons pour cette clef
là ?), la porteuse est bien trouvée, la connexion a apparemment bien
lieu, mais il semble que l'invite n'arrive pas, et le système ne sachant
que faire, il lance pppd à tout hasard. Ici la connexion a duré 2
secondes. La diode de la clef clignote en bleu, un flash toutes les 3
secondes environ. Voici l'output de /var/log/messages :

*
Aug 6 18:09:22 dell-desktop pppd[29127]: pppd 2.4.4 started by root, uid
0
Aug 6 18:09:22 dell-desktop pppd[29127]: Using interface ppp0
Aug 6 18:09:22 dell-desktop pppd[29127]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyUSB0
Aug 6 18:09:22 dell-desktop pppd[29127]: Warning - secret
file /etc/ppp/pap-secrets has world and/or gr

Re: Clef 3G+ - E1752 sous Debian

[Jordon Bedwell]

On 8/6/2010 12:21 PM, Bernard wrote:
> Merci d'avance pour vos commentaires et suggestions.

Liste en anglais, s'il vous plaît parler anglais.
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-french/


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Re: Debian Squeeze Frozen

[Aaron Toponce]

On Fri, Aug 06, 2010 at 04:27:31PM +0200, Brent Clark wrote:
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-annou.../msg9.html
> 
> Flippen AWESOME.

Now to get kfreebsd into shape with gnu. To me, that's what is making
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Re: Bits from the (chilly) release team

[Rick Thomas]

On Aug 6, 2010, at 9:44 AM, Neil McGovern wrote:


RC bugs
===

For the release, we need to get rid of all release critical bugs.  
Please

don't hesitate, pick any bug from
http://bts.turmzimmer.net/details.php?bydist=squeeze and fix it. Or  
send in a
patch in case there is none yet. And of course, follow our permanent  
BSP
policy for your NMUs. Uploading works as you are used to -- just  
remember to
send an e-mail to debian-rele...@lists.debian.org to get your fix  
through.





This is good news!  A big "THANKS!" to all who worked so hard to make  
it happen.


What do I need to do to get bug
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=589701
	"installation-reports: Install yaboot on a hard disk - Failed to  
install boot loader"

onto this list?

Due to this bug, the Debian Squeeze PowerPC port is currently un- 
installable on PowerMac NewWorld hardware.


Thanks!

Rick


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Re: What to put on SSD

[Brian Ryans]

Quoting Jochen Schulz on 2010-08-05 04:27:26:

> BTW, you can monitor lifetime writes with recent kernels for each
> filesystem separately:
> 
> $ sudo tune2fs -l /dev/mapper/manowar-home-crypt | grep ^Lifet
> Lifetime writes:  785 GB
> 
> This filesystem is almost exactly 13 months old and I think more than
> half of the writes on my system go there. The rest is mostly package
> upgrades (I am running sid).

Do you know what kernel exactly is required? My kernel isn't new
enough, or doesn't have the right options enabled, in order to show
this:

Linux esterhazy 2.6.26-2-686 #1 SMP Mon Jun 21 05:58:44 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux

This is an up-to-date Lenny system.
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3G+ - E1752 under Debian

[Bernard]

Hi to Everyone !

Would anyone here have any experience about Huawei E1752 under Debian or 
Ubuntu ?


I have previously succeeded in connecting a 'Huawei ABCD', using 'sakis 
3G'. But I have now subscribed to another package, which uses E1752, and 
'Sakis 3G' does not achieve any useful connexion.


'lsusb' tells me that the key has the ID 12d1:1446 as a mass storage 
device. After switching (using either 'Sakis 3G' or 'usb_modeswitch'), 
it identifies as 12d1:141b. /var/log/messages then tells me that it is 
being reckognized as a GSM modem and that it is attached to ttyUSB0 and 
to ttyUSB1. So far so good.


Then, the connecting process starts. 'Sakis 3G' does a few guesses and 
tests and it tries various parameters for various Internet Providers. In 
the end, it seems to obtain a connection that only lasts one or two 
seconds, as shown below from /var/log/messages :



*
pppd 2.4.4 started by root, uid 0
using interface ppp0
Connect: ppp0 <---> /dev/ttyUSB0
Warning: secret file /etc/ppp/pap-secrets has world and/or group access
Warning: secret file /etc/ppp/chap-secrets has world and/or group access
CHAP authentification succeeded
CHAP authentification succeeded (line repeated twice)
Modem hangup
Connexion terminated
Exit.
**

This being done, I have carried tests using wvdial. Here is the contents 
of my /etc/wvdial.conf file :


**
[Dialer Defaults]
Modem = /dev/ttyUSB0
Init2 = ATZ
Init3 = ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0
ISDN=0
Modem Type = 3G Orange
Phone = *99#
Username = orange.ie
Password = orange.ie
*

Therefore, I type :
sudo comgt -d /dev/ttyUSB0

My PIN code is then requested, and I enter it ()
I get this :

*
SIM ready
Waiting for Registration..(120 sec max)
Registered on Home network: "20801",2
Signal Quality: 11,99
***

Then I tape :
sudo wvdial

**
b...@dell-desktop:~$ sudo wvdial
--> WvDial: Internet dialer version 1.60
--> Cannot get information for serial port.
--> Initializing modem.
--> Sending: ATZ
ATZ
OK
--> Sending: ATZ
ATZ
OK
--> Sending: ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0
ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0
OK
--> Modem initialized.
--> Sending: ATDT*99#
--> Waiting for carrier.
ATDT*99#
CONNECT
--> Carrier detected. Waiting for prompt.
--> Don't know what to do! Starting pppd and hoping for the best.
--> Starting pppd at Fri Aug 6 18:09:22 2010
--> Pid of pppd: 29127
--> Using interface ppp0
--> Disconnecting at Fri Aug 6 18:09:24 2010
**

And here is the output of /var/log/messages :

*
Aug 6 18:09:22 dell-desktop pppd[29127]: pppd 2.4.4 started by root, uid
0
Aug 6 18:09:22 dell-desktop pppd[29127]: Using interface ppp0
Aug 6 18:09:22 dell-desktop pppd[29127]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyUSB0
Aug 6 18:09:22 dell-desktop pppd[29127]: Warning - secret
file /etc/ppp/pap-secrets has world and/or group access
Aug 6 18:09:22 dell-desktop pppd[29127]: Warning - secret
file /etc/ppp/chap-secrets has world and/or group access
Aug 6 18:09:22 dell-desktop pppd[29127]: CHAP authentication succeeded
Aug 6 18:09:22 dell-desktop pppd[29127]: CHAP authentication succeeded
Aug 6 18:09:23 dell-desktop pppd[29127]: Modem hangup
Aug 6 18:09:23 dell-desktop pppd[29127]: Connection terminated.
Aug 6 18:09:23 dell-desktop pppd[29127]: Exit.
*

No need to say that I have tried this several times, with same results.
A test under MSWIN XP did give a connection.

It may be that the sent parameters are not the right ones to obtain a 
connexion with wvdial, but I don't know what else to try.


Thanks in advance for your help.




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Re: What to put on SSD

[Jochen Schulz]

Pasi Oja-Nisula:
> On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 11:27 PM,  Jochen Schulz wrote:
> 
>> You might want to read Ted T'so's blog entries regarding SSDs:
>> http://thunk.org/tytso/blog/category/computers/ssd/
> 
> This is where the pain starts. I started looking at this and suddenly I
> was up to my neck in partition boundary alignment calculations. But
> I guess I finally managed to get them right. Probably wouldn't have
> made a difference even if I had skipped that part.

I skipped the alignment part completely and just went with the defaults
(from July 2009). I don't have the feeling that this imposes a
performance penalty like what is reported with the new 4k hard disks.
But I didn't test that.

> So far so good. Bigger programs like OpenOffice and the like start
> noticeably quicker, but the difference is not as big as I thought. I'll
> see how the system feels once I get home transferred also.

What about boot time? My laptop (Thinkpad X200) boots up in less than
ten senconds (boot manager to GDM).

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Re: Clef 3G+ - E1752 sous Debian

[Bernard]

Jordon Bedwell wrote:

On 8/6/2010 12:21 PM, Bernard wrote:
  

Merci d'avance pour vos commentaires et suggestions.



Liste en anglais, s'il vous plaît parler anglais.
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-french/

  
Yes, I am sorry. My message was intended to the 'debian-user-french' 
list, and I mismatched addresses. Since it concerned a French Internet 
provider, I first thought that I had better ask the French list, but 
maybe someone here could give a useful advice, so I have translated 
accordingly.



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No Consoles???

[John W Foster]

Just got my new AMD 64 bit system to working well. Still have an issue
with NO CONSOLES using F1 F2 etc. I really miss this ability using
testing dist. I am VERY used to using a console screen to manage my
system. Something has disabled thosr consoles. Any tips to correct are
appreciated.
Thanks!
John


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Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" frozen

[Greg Madden]

FYI,  from debian-announce.
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Re: Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" frozen

[Jordon Bedwell]

On 8/6/2010 2:30 PM, Greg Madden wrote:
> FYI,  from debian-announce.

A little behind times eh? Already a thread about it :P


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Re: maintainer not responding

[Jeremiah Mahler]

Patrick,

On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 6:29 AM, Patrick Ouellette  wrote:
> I think you may be missing the poing a bit.  A 'TODO' list is nice,
> but what is stopping YOU from forwarding the information to upstream
> or checking the upstream project to see if they know about the issue?
>

What was stopping me was the assumption that forwarding bugs could
only be done by a maintainer.  But it makes sense that there is no reason
why I could not discuss these bugs with the upstream authors and report back.

> What SPECIFIC package(s) in the list do YOU use, and what SPECIFIC
> issues are YOU having?
>
> I'm not saying all the bugs don't need to be addressed, but it is a
> lot easier to motivate people when someone has a specific need rather
> than picking a developer's package set and complaining about every one
> of the packages with a bug report.
>

I should focus my efforts on a micro rather than a macro level.

> Again I ask YOU what efforts have YOU made to contact the maintainer?

I have not attempted to contact the maintainer in any way other than through
bug reports.  And the bug reports as well as these messages are sent to the
email for the maintainer.  Is there some other method I should use?

>
> Pat
>
> By the way, your Google email link doesn't work for me to look at
> the referenced message.
>

Sorry about that.  Here is the correct link.
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?maint=nenolod%40sacredspiral.co.uk

> On Thu, Aug 05, 2010 at 02:38:42PM -0700, Jeremiah Mahler wrote:
>>
>> I reviewed the outstanding bugs shown in
>> [https://mail.google.com/mail/?shva=1#label/debian-lists/12a43a9b406864ec]
>> and below is a short summary of what I think needs to be done next.
>> The 'TODO' sections indicate something that needs to be done by a
>> Debian maintainer (packaging, forwarding, etc).
>> The 'TODO_USER' sections indicate something that could be done by a
>> regular user.
>>
>>   #406051  qpopper corrupts mailbox when quota exceeded
>>     TODO: forward upstream?
>>
>>   #437746  libgtkglext1: Program exit via window manager window close
>> crashes xserver
>>     WAITING: message sent asking for info regarding video driver.
>>
>>   #537575  uninstallable in unstable
>>     seems to be fixed in current version, installed OK
>>     TODO: close?
>>
>>   #548383 qpopper: The PAM configuration file does not fit to the
>> latest libpam-modules package
>>     TODO: patch needs to be applied and checked
>>
>>   #573522  qpopper: error msg.: fetchmail: Query status=3 (AUTHFAIL)
>>     Some difference between lenny and squeeze causes qupopper to fail.
>>     TODO: Someone familiar with qpopper may have some insight.
>>     Or if the user provided a more detailed description of how to
>>     reproduce this would help.
>>
>>   #242944 qpopper: RFC incompliant behavior
>>     TODO: forward upstream
>>
>>   #275918 qpopper ignores -R or set reverse-lookup = false config item.
>>     TODO: report is from 2004, check if bug still present in latest
>>     version.
>>
>>   #323492  libgtkglext1-dev: example can segfault
>>     TODO: forward upstream
>>
>>   #337022  libgtkglext1: bug somewhere near gdk_gl_get_proc_address()
>> in gdkglquery-x11.c:408
>>     reproducible bug
>>     TODO: forward upstream
>>
>>   #406687  GLXBadContext error happening only with i810 driver with DRI
>>     TODO: forward upstream?
>>
>>   #471483  not available on ppc
>>     Is libgtkglext1 available for ppc?
>>     According to
>>     
>> [http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=libgtkglext1&searchon=names&suite=stable§ion=all]
>>     it looks like it is available.
>>     TODO: bug is from 2008, it seems powerpc is available now. close bug?
>>
>>   #516088  E: qpopper: subprocess post-removal script returned error
>> exit status 1
>>     It seems to be working now.
>>     WAITING: Message sent asking user to verify if problem is still present.
>>
>>   #518514  pidgin-mpris: Please remove bmpx dependency
>>     TODO: update package to remove obsolete dependency
>>
>>   #587984  Outdated API - please update to 0.62
>>     TODO: update package for new upstream version
>>
>>   #486579  qpopper: debian/watch fails to report upstream version
>>     uscan of qpopper says it needs a new version.
>>     TODO_USER: verify problem is still present
>>
>>   #529137  qpopper: please upgrade your watch file
>>     similar to bug#486579
>>     TODO: merge with #486579?
>>
>>   #558512  Missing autoreconf to fix 554821 or similar bugs in the future
>>     Detailed description of what needs to be fixed.
>>     TODO: update package for autoreconf
>>
>>   #590543  audacious-dumb: remove shared library linking
>>     Has patch to removed dependency on libdumb.so
>>     TODO: check if removing dependency makes sense,
>>       update package if it does.
>>
>
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>



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Re: Debian Squeeze Frozen

[Alan Chandler]

On 06/08/10 15:27, Brent Clark wrote:

http://lists.debian.org/debian-annou.../msg9.html

Flippen AWESOME.

Thanks to everyone. Now the real work begins.

Brent


I was really hoping php 5.3.3 would make it into squeeze.  It will be 
the first version of php that properly supports sqlite3.  It looks like 
it might be too late :-(


I am also not entirely sure whether sqlite 3.7.0.1 is going to make it 
into squeeze.  There are some strange words in the developer pts 
regarding freeze break for it.


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Re: When is best time to upgrade lenny to squeeze

[Gilles Mocellin]

On Fri, Aug 06, 2010 at 01:09:17PM -0400, PaulNM wrote:
> Jari Fredriksson wrote:
> >On 6.8.2010 18:35, PaulNM wrote:
> >>If you'll be running the VM only when logged in, virtualbox is
> >>definitely preferred. If you need to run headless servers that start
> >>automatically on bootup, qemu is the way to go.
> >>
> >
> >I use VirtualBox just like you described, but I use VMWare Server 2.0
> >for the headless servers. Is qemu somehow better? My host is a Windows 7
> >64bit.
> >
> 
>   Qemu was a lighter weight alternative to Virtualbox for me.  My
> company was experimenting with freenas, which was originally on an
> actual box. I moved it to a VM on another 24/7 Debian box to save on
> power usage, and needed the VM to start every time the Debian box
> started.
> 
>   If you're familiar and comfortable with VMWare, use it.  VMWare and
> Virtualbox virtualize cpu calls, while qemu emulates the entire
> processor.  This means qemu is much more flexible in what it can
> run, but also slower.

If the processor has VT extensions, qemu can use 2 different modules to bypass 
emulation :
- kqemu on x86, without specifique processor extensions
- kvm on x86 with VT extensions and becom a Fully Virtualized Environnement.

$ aptitude show kqemu-source 
Paquet : kqemu-source 
[...]
Description : Source for the QEMU Accelerator module
 This package provides the source code for the kqemu kernel modules. The qemu 
package is also required in order to make use of
 these modules. Kernel source or headers are required to compile these modules. 
 
 The QEMU Accelerator Module increases the speed of QEMU when a PC is emulated 
on a PC. It runs most of the target application
 code directly on the host processor to achieve near native performance. It is 
very useful when you want to run another
 Operating System (for example Windows) on a Linux desktop.
Site : http://www.qemu.org/

$ aptitude show qemu-kvm
Paquet : qemu-kvm 
[...]
Description : Full virtualization on x86 hardware
 Using KVM, one can run multiple virtual PCs, each running unmodified Linux or 
Windows images. Each virtual machine has
 private virtualized hardware: a network card, disk, graphics adapter, etc. 
 
 KVM (for Kernel-based Virtual Machine) is a full virtualization solution for 
Linux hosts on x86 hardware with x86 guests. KVM
 is intended for systems where the processor has hardware support for 
virtualization, see below for details. All combinations
 of 32-bit and 64-bit host and guest systems are supported, except 64-bit 
guests on 32-bit hosts. 
 
 KVM requires your system to support hardware virtualization, provided by AMD's 
SVM capability or Intel's VT. See
 /usr/share/doc/qemu-kvm/README.Debian for more information.
Site : http://www.linux-kvm.org/


Another side note, you have several management tools to help you manage
your VMs:
- virt-manager
- qemulator
...
And a little ad for Proxmox here :-)
http://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Main_Page


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Re: Debian Squeeze Frozen

[Jordon Bedwell]

On 8/6/2010 3:27 PM, Alan Chandler wrote:
> On 06/08/10 15:27, Brent Clark wrote:
>> http://lists.debian.org/debian-annou.../msg9.html
>>
>> Flippen AWESOME.
>>
>> Thanks to everyone. Now the real work begins.
>>
>> Brent
>>
>>
> I was really hoping php 5.3.3 would make it into squeeze.  It will be
> the first version of php that properly supports sqlite3.  It looks like
> it might be too late :-(
> 
> I am also not entirely sure whether sqlite 3.7.0.1 is going to make it
> into squeeze.  There are some strange words in the developer pts
> regarding freeze break for it.
> 

It was too late when it came out anyways considering it was just
released not to long ago and there hasn't been full testing yet, or not
even close to full testing.  I'm at least happy they finally pushed up
to php 5.3.2 so that companies like MediaTemple who apparently rely
solely on the repos will have php 5.3.2. Looks like they might also be
using sqlite 3.6.23 since sqlite 3.7 was released on the same day as php
5.3.3. Since Squeeze is still young we can only hope they get all the
proper testing done fast so we can see it in a few months.


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Re: What to put on SSD

[Jochen Schulz]

Brian Ryans:
> Quoting Jochen Schulz on 2010-08-05 04:27:26:
> 
>> BTW, you can monitor lifetime writes with recent kernels for each
>> filesystem separately:
>> 
>> $ sudo tune2fs -l /dev/mapper/manowar-home-crypt | grep ^Lifet
>> Lifetime writes:  785 GB
>> 
>> This filesystem is almost exactly 13 months old and I think more than
>> half of the writes on my system go there. The rest is mostly package
>> upgrades (I am running sid).
> 
> Do you know what kernel exactly is required?

Sorry, no. I usually run current sid and compile vanilla kernels from
Linus' git. This is supported by upstream since at least July 2009, so I
guess 2.6.30 or 2.6.31 should be enough. But I cannot find any
references regarding that.

What I just found out, though, is that the X25m apparently reports host
writes as S.M.A.R.T. attribute 225:

$ sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | grep ^225
225 Host_Writes_Count  0x   200   200  000  Old_age Offline  -  53426

http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-ext4/msg19641.html

The raw value multiplied by 32MB is supposed to be the total amount of
data written to the device during its total lifetime. That's about
1,700GB for me which appears to be plausible (and only 4% of the writes
Intel reports as minimum lifetime writes).

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Re: OTT: OpenFiler vs Thecus N4200?

[Justin The Cynical]

On 8/5/10 11:18 PM, Phillipus Gunawan wrote:
> Hi There,
> 
> Sorry if this is a bit 'Off The Topic' discussion. I am planning to get 
> fileserver dedicated for iSCSI.
> 
> My option is to grab Thecus N4200 or to build OpenFiler with any Duo-Core 
> CPU, 
>> 1G RAM, RocketRAID 644 controller, and other basic PC stuff.
> 
> I have been googling to compare OpenFiler vs FreeNAS (winner for me: 
> OpenFiler) 
> and cheap iSCSI capable barebone NAS from Thecus vs QNAP (winner: Thecus 
> N4200)
> 
> When it come to comparing between OpenFiler vs Thecus N4200, I can not get 
> any 
> goodies from google. I used OpenFiler for a bit, creating 2 or 3 iSCSI 
> target, 
> share folder, but only for short time, just for a fun.
> 
> My concern:
> - HDD realibility check (live error check, reporting when one of the HDD 
> faulty/bad sector/etc)
> - RAID/iSCSI re-sizing when I add another HDD
> - Easy to maintain
> 
> So, if anyone expert can give me a light, would be much appreciated. For a 
> started, I will only go with 3x2TB HDD for either option, to be RAID-ed as 
> RAID5

Have you looked at NexentaStore?  Free community addition is good for up
to 12 TB.  It's based on OpenSolaris, not Linux, but it uses apt-get for
packages and upgrades.

CIFS: Check
NFS: Check
iSCSI: Check
ZFS: Check

ZFS at this time isn't all that good at dynamic resizing, but I believe
Sun/Oracle is working on that functionality.

I looked at FreeNAS myself, but the ZFS level it supports is very
experimental.  OpenFiler, while I like the idea behind it, is based on
CentOS (which is a clone of that bloated thing called RedHat.  Ugg).

Not to start a flame war or argument, but I'd skip the hardware RAID
card and go software.  Most CPU's available have plenty of power to
handle the calculations needed for RAID.  Also, you are not locked into
a single vendor, nor do you have to worry about replacement when the
RAID card dies (and it will eventually).

I'm running three VM's from an ESXi 4 machine using the NexentaStore on
an iSCSI datastore before moving my production VM's over to it, and so
far, I'm liking what I see overall.  It seems to be a bit on the hungry
side, like OpenFiler would be, but it's quite usable with the 4 gigs and
the C2D 7500 CPU I have in it.


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Re: Re: Onboard ethernet adapter lights not flash anymore... Network not connect too!

[Marcelo Laia]

Hi

I think my car is died :(

I have a Dell Latitude D630 and here is the commands outputs:


marc...@laia:~$ /usr/bin/lspci | grep Ethernet
09:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5755M
Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express (rev 02)
marc...@laia:~$ /sbin/ifconfig
eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  Endereço de HW 00:1e:4f:fd:9a:de
  UP BROADCASTMULTICAST  MTU:1500  Métrica:1
  RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  colisões:0 txqueuelen:1000
  RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)
  IRQ:17
...



Have you any idea about this?

My card is onboard.

Is an usb ethernet adapter suitable? Like this http://is.gd/e6BR7

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Re: match across line using grep

[Bob McGowan]

On 08/05/2010 06:49 PM, Zhang Weiwu wrote:
> On 2010年08月04日 04:55, Bob McGowan wrote:
>> In fact, the LC_ names all seem to be specific to things
>> that would not necessarily impact the regex operation.
>>   
> It is not totally true. The encoding part might. If it is UTF-8, in
> theory, [:digit:] should match more than 0-9. It might, for example,
> mache 一-十 (Chinese digits).
> 

My point is that changing only the LANG environment variable changed the
way 'grep' dealt with the newline character.  I admittedly did not use a
very strict interpretation or understanding of the LC_ variables, you
could say I arbitrarily decided to go top down in trying changes.

Either way, I got lucky, the first choice changed the be behavior.  The
others may also change things, but it didn't seem relevant to try every
one, as changing one was enough to prove the point.

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[SOLVED] - WAS: 3G+ - E1752 under Debian

[Bernard]

Bernard wrote:

Hi to Everyone !

Would anyone here have any experience about Huawei E1752 under Debian 
or Ubuntu ?


I have previously succeeded in connecting a 'Huawei ABCD', using 
'sakis 3G'. But I have now subscribed to another package, which uses 
E1752, and 'Sakis 3G' does not achieve any useful connexion.


'lsusb' tells me that the key has the ID 12d1:1446 as a mass storage 
device. After switching (using either 'Sakis 3G' or 'usb_modeswitch'), 
it identifies as 12d1:141b. /var/log/messages then tells me that it is 
being reckognized as a GSM modem and that it is attached to ttyUSB0 
and to ttyUSB1. So far so good.


Then, the connecting process starts. 'Sakis 3G' does a few guesses and 
tests and it tries various parameters for various Internet Providers. 
In the end, it seems to obtain a connection that only lasts one or two 
seconds, as shown below from /var/log/messages :



*
pppd 2.4.4 started by root, uid 0
using interface ppp0
Connect: ppp0 <---> /dev/ttyUSB0
Warning: secret file /etc/ppp/pap-secrets has world and/or group access
Warning: secret file /etc/ppp/chap-secrets has world and/or group access
CHAP authentification succeeded
CHAP authentification succeeded (line repeated twice)
Modem hangup
Connexion terminated
Exit.
**

This being done, I have carried tests using wvdial. Here is the 
contents of my /etc/wvdial.conf file :


**
[Dialer Defaults]
Modem = /dev/ttyUSB0
Init2 = ATZ
Init3 = ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0
ISDN=0
Modem Type = 3G Orange
Phone = *99#
Username = orange.ie
Password = orange.ie
*

Therefore, I type :
sudo comgt -d /dev/ttyUSB0

My PIN code is then requested, and I enter it ()
I get this :

*
SIM ready
Waiting for Registration..(120 sec max)
Registered on Home network: "20801",2
Signal Quality: 11,99
***

Then I tape :
sudo wvdial

**
b...@dell-desktop:~$ sudo wvdial
--> WvDial: Internet dialer version 1.60
--> Cannot get information for serial port.
--> Initializing modem.
--> Sending: ATZ
ATZ
OK
--> Sending: ATZ
ATZ
OK
--> Sending: ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0
ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0
OK
--> Modem initialized.
--> Sending: ATDT*99#
--> Waiting for carrier.
ATDT*99#
CONNECT
--> Carrier detected. Waiting for prompt.
--> Don't know what to do! Starting pppd and hoping for the best.
--> Starting pppd at Fri Aug 6 18:09:22 2010
--> Pid of pppd: 29127
--> Using interface ppp0
--> Disconnecting at Fri Aug 6 18:09:24 2010
**

And here is the output of /var/log/messages :

*
Aug 6 18:09:22 dell-desktop pppd[29127]: pppd 2.4.4 started by root, uid
0
Aug 6 18:09:22 dell-desktop pppd[29127]: Using interface ppp0
Aug 6 18:09:22 dell-desktop pppd[29127]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyUSB0
Aug 6 18:09:22 dell-desktop pppd[29127]: Warning - secret
file /etc/ppp/pap-secrets has world and/or group access
Aug 6 18:09:22 dell-desktop pppd[29127]: Warning - secret
file /etc/ppp/chap-secrets has world and/or group access
Aug 6 18:09:22 dell-desktop pppd[29127]: CHAP authentication succeeded
Aug 6 18:09:22 dell-desktop pppd[29127]: CHAP authentication succeeded
Aug 6 18:09:23 dell-desktop pppd[29127]: Modem hangup
Aug 6 18:09:23 dell-desktop pppd[29127]: Connection terminated.
Aug 6 18:09:23 dell-desktop pppd[29127]: Exit.
*

No need to say that I have tried this several times, with same results.
A test under MSWIN XP did give a connection.

It may be that the sent parameters are not the right ones to obtain a 
connexion with wvdial, but I don't know what else to try.


Thanks in advance for your help.





I just found what was wrong, while watching what happened during a
connection under MSWIN. The Username and Password were supposed to be
both set to 'orange.ie', so I believed, especially since this was
supposed to be a short for 'Orange Internet Everywhere'. 'orange.ie' was
also the first choice that was being proposed by 'Sakis 3G'. I learnt
that it had to be changed to 'orange.fr'. Once this was done, I could
get connexions under Ubuntu without any further problems, whether using
'wvdial' or 'Sakis 3G'.



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Re: Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" frozen

[Greg Madden]

On Friday 06 August 2010 11:31:53 Jordon Bedwell wrote:
> On 8/6/2010 2:30 PM, Greg Madden wrote:
> > FYI,  from debian-announce.
>
> A little behind times eh? Already a thread about it :P

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Re: OTT: OpenFiler vs Thecus N4200?

[John A. Sullivan III]

On Fri, 2010-08-06 at 14:33 -0700, Justin The Cynical wrote:
> On 8/5/10 11:18 PM, Phillipus Gunawan wrote:
> > Hi There,
> > 
> > Sorry if this is a bit 'Off The Topic' discussion. I am planning to get 
> > fileserver dedicated for iSCSI.
> > 
> > My option is to grab Thecus N4200 or to build OpenFiler with any Duo-Core 
> > CPU, 
> >> 1G RAM, RocketRAID 644 controller, and other basic PC stuff.
> > 
> > I have been googling to compare OpenFiler vs FreeNAS (winner for me: 
> > OpenFiler) 
> > and cheap iSCSI capable barebone NAS from Thecus vs QNAP (winner: Thecus 
> > N4200)
> > 
> > When it come to comparing between OpenFiler vs Thecus N4200, I can not get 
> > any 
> > goodies from google. I used OpenFiler for a bit, creating 2 or 3 iSCSI 
> > target, 
> > share folder, but only for short time, just for a fun.
> > 
> > My concern:
> > - HDD realibility check (live error check, reporting when one of the HDD 
> > faulty/bad sector/etc)
> > - RAID/iSCSI re-sizing when I add another HDD
> > - Easy to maintain
> > 
> > So, if anyone expert can give me a light, would be much appreciated. For a 
> > started, I will only go with 3x2TB HDD for either option, to be RAID-ed as 
> > RAID5
> 
> Have you looked at NexentaStore?  Free community addition is good for up
> to 12 TB.  It's based on OpenSolaris, not Linux, but it uses apt-get for
> packages and upgrades.
> 
> CIFS: Check
> NFS: Check
> iSCSI: Check
> ZFS: Check
> 
> ZFS at this time isn't all that good at dynamic resizing, but I believe
> Sun/Oracle is working on that functionality.
> 
> I looked at FreeNAS myself, but the ZFS level it supports is very
> experimental.  OpenFiler, while I like the idea behind it, is based on
> CentOS (which is a clone of that bloated thing called RedHat.  Ugg).
> 
> Not to start a flame war or argument, but I'd skip the hardware RAID
> card and go software.  Most CPU's available have plenty of power to
> handle the calculations needed for RAID.  Also, you are not locked into
> a single vendor, nor do you have to worry about replacement when the
> RAID card dies (and it will eventually).
> 
> I'm running three VM's from an ESXi 4 machine using the NexentaStore on
> an iSCSI datastore before moving my production VM's over to it, and so
> far, I'm liking what I see overall.  It seems to be a bit on the hungry
> side, like OpenFiler would be, but it's quite usable with the 4 gigs and
> the C2D 7500 CPU I have in it.
> 
> 
We are using the commercial version of Nexenta and have had mixed
results.  Portions of it are outstanding while others have been a
disaster.  The founders certainly know their technology and were the
authors of the Linux iSCSI implementation I believe.

Our first problem was abysmal performance.  To their credit, Nexenta
support worked tirelessly on the problem but the ultimate assistance
came from the dm-multipath mailing list.  The problem was not entirely
Nexenta's.  The problem was we were using iSCSI for Linux file services.
Because of the limitation of 4KB memory page sizes in Linux, the maximum
file system block size is also 4KB.  That small size means that no
matter how fat the pipe, the data transfer rate is bound by latency
(number of I/Os per second) rather than bandwidth.  We had difficulty
pushing our multi-Gigabit links beyond 40 Mbps with 4KB block sizes
whereas we could saturate them at larger block sizes.

Nexenta's contribution to the problem is that the opensolaris network
stack adds a huge amount of latency - well over an order of magnitude
greater than Linux (200us to 700us pinging its own interface!).  We have
not yet upgraded to Nexenta 3.x which I gather is a major OS upgrade.
It is quite possible it has improved latency.  I've just tested our
current version and it is averaging 40us to 80us so considerable
improvement.  Our Linux systems seem to average around 20us.

We then tried to implement LDAP and it was pathetic, e.g., no sub
queries, limited options, finicky syntax.  It was absolutely useless to
us.  Again, we have not tested this on the latest software.

Quality control has been an issue. The company tends to think like
developers who don't mind trashing and rebooting systems but not like
enterprise sysadmins who need to keep systems running 24 x 7.  As an
extreme example, an undocumented change between upgrades resulted on our
corrupting our RAID arrays and a catastrophic data loss the day BEFORE
we implemented our disaster recovery backups (shame on  us).  This was
probably very specific to our environment as a pre-release adopter of
COMSTAR but was an absolute disaster nonetheless.

We then tried to implement SNMP.  Following instructions carefully, the
result was that the entire system hung knocking the disk subsystems out
from roughly 30 servers.  Again, this was pre 3.x.

The day before we were supposed to put the system into production, it
decided that one of the disks was bad and then decided it was not.
That's not so bad but it did all the processing as a foreground 

why rsync wants to delete destination files

[T o n g]

Hi,

I believed that rsync wouldn't delete existing destination files unless 
instructed so (by --delete-excluded). However, while debugging a 
(mysterious) bug, 
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.file-systems.aufs.user/2821/focus=2827
I now suspect that the rsync command used in the script was trying to 
delete existing destination files. 

Here are the (abstracted) logs:

$ find rw
rw
rw/d1
rw/d1/.wh.7
rw/d1/.wh.6
rw/.wh..wh.orph
rw/.wh..wh.plnk
rw/.wh..wh.aufs

$ find ro2
ro2
ro2/d2
ro2/d2/6
ro2/d2/5
ro2/d2/4
ro2/d2/3
ro2/d2/2
ro2/d2/1
ro2/d1
ro2/d1/.wh.2
ro2/d1/.wh.3
ro2/d1/four
ro2/d1/.wh.4

. . .
++ rsync --exclude=lost+found -aHSx --devices --specials --delete-before 
--remove-source-files '--exclude=.wh..wh.*' rw/ ro2
. . . 

$ find ro2
ro2
ro2/d1
ro2/d1/.wh.6
ro2/d1/.wh.7

See, all the previous content have gone. 

Now, try again with the an extra '--max-delete=0' option:
(http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.file-systems.aufs.user/2821/
focus=2827)

$ find rw ro_mid
rw
rw/d1
rw/d1/.wh.7
rw/d1/.wh.6
rw/.wh..wh.orph
rw/.wh..wh.plnk
rw/.wh..wh.aufs
ro_mid
ro_mid/d2
ro_mid/d2/6
ro_mid/d2/5
ro_mid/d2/4
ro_mid/d2/3
ro_mid/d2/2
ro_mid/d2/1
ro_mid/d1
ro_mid/d1/four
ro_mid/d1/4
ro_mid/d1/3
ro_mid/d1/2

++ rsync --exclude=lost+found -aHSx --devices --specials --delete-before 
--remove-source-files --exclude=.wh..wh.* --max-delete=0 rw/ ro_mid
cannot delete non-empty directory: d2
Deletions stopped due to --max-delete limit (10 skipped)
rsync error: the --max-delete limit stopped deletions (code 25) at main.c
(1060) [sender=3.0.7]

I don't think the '--max-delete=0' is the correct option to choose in 
this case, but apparently it reveals that rsync does trying to delete 
destination files. 

My brain is now blocked. Anyone can give me some hints?

Thanks

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Re: No Consoles???

[T o n g]

On Fri, 06 Aug 2010 14:07:43 -0500, John W Foster wrote:

> Still have an issue
> with NO CONSOLES using F1 F2 etc.

How did you access consoles? F1 F2 directly?


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Re: why rsync wants to delete destination files

[Sam Leon]

On 08/06/2010 10:41 PM, T o n g wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I believed that rsync wouldn't delete existing destination files unless
> instructed so (by --delete-excluded). However, while debugging a
> (mysterious) bug,
> 
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.file-systems.aufs.user/2821/focus=2827

> I now suspect that the rsync command used in the script was trying to
> delete existing destination files.
>
> Here are the (abstracted) logs:
>
> $ find rw
> rw
> rw/d1
> rw/d1/.wh.7
> rw/d1/.wh.6
> rw/.wh..wh.orph
> rw/.wh..wh.plnk
> rw/.wh..wh.aufs
>
> $ find ro2
> ro2
> ro2/d2
> ro2/d2/6
> ro2/d2/5
> ro2/d2/4
> ro2/d2/3
> ro2/d2/2
> ro2/d2/1
> ro2/d1
> ro2/d1/.wh.2
> ro2/d1/.wh.3
> ro2/d1/four
> ro2/d1/.wh.4
>
> . . .
> ++ rsync --exclude=lost+found -aHSx --devices --specials --delete-before
> --remove-source-files '--exclude=.wh..wh.*' rw/ ro2
> . . .
>
> $ find ro2
> ro2
> ro2/d1
> ro2/d1/.wh.6
> ro2/d1/.wh.7
>
> See, all the previous content have gone.
>
> Now, try again with the an extra '--max-delete=0' option:
> (http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.file-systems.aufs.user/2821/
> focus=2827)
>
> $ find rw ro_mid
> rw
> rw/d1
> rw/d1/.wh.7
> rw/d1/.wh.6
> rw/.wh..wh.orph
> rw/.wh..wh.plnk
> rw/.wh..wh.aufs
> ro_mid
> ro_mid/d2
> ro_mid/d2/6
> ro_mid/d2/5
> ro_mid/d2/4
> ro_mid/d2/3
> ro_mid/d2/2
> ro_mid/d2/1
> ro_mid/d1
> ro_mid/d1/four
> ro_mid/d1/4
> ro_mid/d1/3
> ro_mid/d1/2
>
> ++ rsync --exclude=lost+found -aHSx --devices --specials --delete-before
> --remove-source-files --exclude=.wh..wh.* --max-delete=0 rw/ ro_mid
> cannot delete non-empty directory: d2
> Deletions stopped due to --max-delete limit (10 skipped)
> rsync error: the --max-delete limit stopped deletions (code 25) at main.c
> (1060) [sender=3.0.7]
>
> I don't think the '--max-delete=0' is the correct option to choose in
> this case, but apparently it reveals that rsync does trying to delete
> destination files.
>
> My brain is now blocked. Anyone can give me some hints?
>
> Thanks
>


--delete-before will delete everything in the destination directory that 
is not in the source directory. Also using regex stuff for --exclude can 
be tricky because it is a different syntax than what most people are 
used to with bash shell.


Sam


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Re: why rsync wants to delete destination files

[T o n g]

Thanks for your replay Sam. 

On Fri, 06 Aug 2010 22:47:57 -0500, Sam Leon wrote:

> --delete-before will delete everything in the destination directory that
> is not in the source directory.

As you sure about this?

>From man page:

   --delete-beforereceiver deletes before transfer (default)

I.e., "--delete-before" is the default action. It only affect the files 
to be copied over. Nothing else.

  --delete-before

 Request that the file-deletions on the receiving side be
 done before the transfer starts.  See --delete (which is
 implied) for more details on file-deletion.

 Deleting before the transfer is helpful if the
 filesystem is tight for space and removing extraneous
 files would help to make the transfer possible.
 However, it does introduce a delay before the start of
 the transfer, and this delay might cause the transfer to
 timeout (if --timeout was specified).  It also forces
 rsync to use the old, non-incremental recursion
 algorithm that requires rsync to scan all the files in
 the transfer into memory at once (see --recursive).



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