Re: source package linux-2.6

2009-05-17 Thread Jerome BENOIT

Indeed, but I want to build the kernel with the Debian patches,
not a vanilla kernel.

Jerome

Tzafrir Cohen wrote:

On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 11:04:21AM +0800, Jerome BENOIT wrote:

Hello List,

I would like to test the lastest linux-2.6 package from Sid on my Lenny Box.


May I ask why? If you just need to build a deb from a kernel, maybe use
kernel-package (make-kpkg).



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Re: WARNING: All config files need .conf

2009-05-17 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Fri,15.May.09, 22:04:24, Γιώργος Πάλλας wrote:
> I started seeing this message during boot time, after some upgrade.
> 
> These are the messages:
> 
> Fri May 15 21:27:02 2009: Configuring network interfaces...WARNING: All
> config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/irda, it will be ignored in a
> future release.
> Fri May 15 21:27:03 2009: WARNING: All config files need .conf:
> /etc/modprobe.d/nsc-ircc, it will be ignored in a future release.
> Fri May 15 21:27:03 2009: WARNING: All config files need .conf:
> /etc/modprobe.d/padlock-aes, it will be ignored in a future release.
> Fri May 15 21:27:03 2009: WARNING: All config files need .conf:
> /etc/modprobe.d/padlock-sha, it will be ignored in a future release.
> Fri May 15 21:27:03 2009: WARNING: All config files need .conf:
> /etc/modprobe.d/intel_rng, it will be ignored in a future release.
> 
> My question is since I dont find these packages to belong to any
> package, what should I do about them? And what is their purpose
> actually? To forbid modules from loading into the kernel? Why? What
> happens if I delete them?

I can't find those files in either lenny, squeeze or sid, is this a new 
install or dist-upgraded since before lenny?

I'd say those files are just cruft and it should be safe to delete them.  
I would back them up first though, just in case.

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Re: Is there an IM Client that Does Not Use X

2009-05-17 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Fri,15.May.09, 14:39:31, Martin McCormick wrote:
> Is there any sort of instant message application that can run in
> a command-line terminal, similar to talkd?

Have a look at bitlbee. You can use it to connect to several IM services 
through a command-line irc client (like irssi).

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Re: obsolete setsockopt SO_BSDCOMPAT ???

2009-05-17 Thread Detlef Rohde

Hallo Michael,
bei mir kommt diese Meldung immer im Zusammenhang mit dem Start von Skype:

May 17 09:01:22 detlef-d2 kernel: [  950.783224] process `skype' is using 
obsolete setsockopt SO_BSDCOMPAT

Das ist schon eine Weile so, seit ich Ubuntu benutze (Start mit 8.04, 
jetzt 9.04). Meine Skype-Partner beklagen sich über ein in meinem Signal 
auftretendes rhythmisches Knacken, dass ich selbst nicht hören kann. Ob 
ein Zusammenhang mit der Kernel-Meldung besteht, habe ich bisher nicht 
herausfinden können.

Gruß
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Re: gnome-terminal and pango

2009-05-17 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sun,17.May.09, 01:39:07, Girish Kulkarni wrote:
>
> Does gnome-terminal use Pango?  Is there any way one could make it do so? 
> I could only find a nine years old thread on this topic on gtk-i18n-list:
>
> http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gtk-i18n-list/2000-October/msg00020.html
>
> And that doesn't look encouraging.  I am looking for a terminal that  
> renders Indic scripts well.  TIA.

Try rxvt-unicode.

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Re: source package linux-2.6

2009-05-17 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sun,17.May.09, 11:04:21, Jerome BENOIT wrote:
> Hello List,
>
> I would like to test the lastest linux-2.6 package from Sid on my Lenny Box.
> My initila plan was to build it from its source with dpkg tools. But the list
> of packaged balls is rather huge _and_ useless for a personal use:
> is there an easy way to build the packages that we really need.

The sid kernel (still) installs fine on lenny.

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Re: Could someone recommend documentation or books about debian?

2009-05-17 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Michael M. Moore  [2009.05.17.0010 +0200]:
> Excellent book, even though it is slightly dated I am still learning
> things from it.

I am expecting to begin work on a new version soon. Unfortunately,
time is a rarity and I cannot provide you with any estimates yet.
Please go to http://debiansystem.info and follow the link to the
announcement mailing list there if you want to be first to receive
the news.

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What is the preferred way to install packages from testing/unstable in stable?

2009-05-17 Thread Aniruddha
I would like to install the latest version swfdec-mozilla (because it
offers autoplay). I intent to track stable as closely as possible. As
far I can tell there are four possibilities to achieve this:

1) Temporary enable testing/unstable repositories and install the program
2) Download *.deb from packages.debian org
3) Use apt-pinning
4) Compile from source, this requires option 1 to be enabled.
Otherwise you get the following error:

# apt-get build-dep swfdec-mozilla
E: Build-Depends dependency for swfdec-mozilla cannot be satisfied
because the package libswfdec-0.8-dev cannot be found


I am interested to learn the best method to install a newer package
while remaining as close (compatible) with stable as possible. Thanks
in advance!


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Re: Unexplained changes in Gnome functionality

2009-05-17 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 01:02:40PM -0400, JoeHill wrote:
> 
> I know what you mean, but in the end this is absolutlely free support from
> people who do have other lives. I have learned that the quality and accuracy 
> of
> the question I ask is incredibly important.

Exact error messages are very important. Also if you are running Squeeze
or Sid then you need to be careful when upgrading to newer versions of
software.

I don't know if aptitude uses apt-listbugs or its own method, but you
should set it up to list open bugs before installing the package and
investigate any bugs¹ *before* installing the package. Quite often the
bug report will have the information needed to "work around" the
problem.

¹ At least with apt-listbugs you can investigate the bugs interactively
just by typing in the bug number, I don't know how aptitude does it.

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Re: Help with Flash

2009-05-17 Thread thveillon.debian
Marc Shapiro a écrit :
> Mark Allums wrote:
>> Marc Shapiro wrote:
>>> Mark Allums wrote:
 flashplugin-nonfree in Sid is working again.  I don't think it has
 any other Sid dependencies.  Remember, if your internet connection
 is not always-on, that it is just an installer, and it still needs
 to download the player from Adobe.
>>>
>>> I've already installed Flash directly from the Adobe site, so the
>>> installer won't do anything for me.  I thought that, with true
>>> Mozilla and Flash direct from Adobe, that Flash should work.  I
>>> shouldn't need anything else.  Unfortunately, it does not.  Does
>>> anyone else have Flash working with Mozilla Firefox (not Iceweasel)?
>>>
>>
>> Try uninstalling everything flash-related, even swfdec, and so forth,
>> then installing Sid's flashplugin-nonfree.
>>
>> However, you may need to copy the plugin .so manually into the Firefox
>> plugin directory.  If Iceweasel is installed, you can find it there.
>>
>> Installing the Adobe way has never worked for me.  I have always
>> needed the Debian way.
> 
> All the installer does is download and unpack the file from adobe and
> copy it to the appropriate directories.  I already have the new
> libflashplayer.so and I have it in /usr/local/lib/firefox/plugins/
> Firefox recognizes that it is installed and starts to load the flash
> video.  Then it hangs.  Using the installer from Sid will simply
> download another copy of the file and place it in a directory that is
> incorrect for me, so that I can copy it to where it already is.  I have
> already downloaded the .deb for Ubuntu from the Adobe site, thinking
> that maybe there was a problem with the .tar.gz file, but I get the same
> results.  I don't see where having the Sid installer download the same
> ..tar.gz file that I already have is going to make a difference.
> 


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Re: Help with Flash

2009-05-17 Thread thveillon.debian
Marc Shapiro wrote:
> Mark Allums wrote:
>> Marc Shapiro wrote:
>>> Mark Allums wrote:
 flashplugin-nonfree in Sid is working again.  I don't think it has
 any other Sid dependencies.  Remember, if your internet connection
 is not always-on, that it is just an installer, and it still needs
 to download the player from Adobe.
>>>
>>> I've already installed Flash directly from the Adobe site, so the
>>> installer won't do anything for me.  I thought that, with true
>>> Mozilla and Flash direct from Adobe, that Flash should work.  I
>>> shouldn't need anything else.  Unfortunately, it does not.  Does
>>> anyone else have Flash working with Mozilla Firefox (not Iceweasel)?
>>>
>>
>> Try uninstalling everything flash-related, even swfdec, and so forth,
>> then installing Sid's flashplugin-nonfree.
>>
>> However, you may need to copy the plugin .so manually into the Firefox
>> plugin directory.  If Iceweasel is installed, you can find it there.
>>
>> Installing the Adobe way has never worked for me.  I have always
>> needed the Debian way.
> 
> All the installer does is download and unpack the file from adobe and
> copy it to the appropriate directories.  I already have the new
> libflashplayer.so and I have it in /usr/local/lib/firefox/plugins/
> Firefox recognizes that it is installed and starts to load the flash
> video.  Then it hangs.  Using the installer from Sid will simply
> download another copy of the file and place it in a directory that is
> incorrect for me, so that I can copy it to where it already is.  I have
> already downloaded the .deb for Ubuntu from the Adobe site, thinking
> that maybe there was a problem with the .tar.gz file, but I get the same
> results.  I don't see where having the Sid installer download the same
> ..tar.gz file that I already have is going to make a difference.
> 
Hi,

maybe have a look at /etc/alternatives to see if you have a link that
can confuse things, and look at flashplayer-mozilla dependencies to see
if you're missing something.

Tom

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Re: Using terminal output as input

2009-05-17 Thread Dotan Cohen
> Like you said, it does require foreknowledge of the output. So there is
> no way to make a one-size-fits-all solution, be it a command-line trick
> or a program.
>
> If you told us exactly what you want to achieve, we might be able to
> help you better.
>

I just want to know in a very general sense how to use the output of
commands without typing them in manually. It seemed to me that as *nix
was developed for the CLI interface (with GUIs coming around only
years later) that this would be possible.

I do not have a specific task at hand.

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Re: Using terminal output as input

2009-05-17 Thread Chris Jones
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 10:55:35AM EDT, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> I am using a Debian-based distro (Ubuntu). Often I need to use the
> output of one terminal command as the input for another. A classic
> example is the  which command:
> $ which firefox
> /usr/bin/firefox
> $
> 
> Now, I would like to use that output as input, to start firefox. Other
> than manually typing it in, is there a way for the user to use the
> output directly?
> 
> Another example is when the OS lets the user know that she needs to
> install a program and gives her the command to install it:
> $ ekiga
> The program 'ekiga' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
> sudo apt-get install ekiga
> bash: ekiga: command not found
> $

Off-hand, the only thing that comes to mind is using "history -s" to add
the command's output to the bash session's history list so that you can
retrieve it via Ctrl-P (or up-arrow) and use the readline editor to
"extract" the actual command:

$ history -s $(ekiga) 

To make things a bit more useable, maybe there's a way to bind a key
combo to a bash function that would do the above for _any_ command:

$ ekiga + Ctrl-whatever 

.. would execute:

$ add-output-to-history ekiga

With the bash function coded something like:

add-output-to-history () {history -s $($*)}  # UNTESTED !!

Since this ugly hack would seriously pollute the bash session's history
list, you would need to write a program/script that runs automaticaly
when exiting the bash session and removes all the crap before it gets
appended to the ~/.bash_history file.

> In contrast to the "which" example, the text that the user needs is
> buried in the output. Is there a way to use it anyway, without
> retyping (and without using the mouse, which I often do not have).

For stuff like that where the output is totally unpredictable, I doubt
anything beats the flexibility of gnu/screen's copy/paste mechanism.

:-)

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Re: Using terminal output as input

2009-05-17 Thread Dotan Cohen
2009/5/14 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. :
> In <880dece00905140755w67aefd85uacffa635c306...@mail.gmail.com>, Dotan Cohen
> wrote:
>>I am using a Debian-based distro (Ubuntu). Often I need to use the
>>output of one terminal command as the input for another.
>
> UNIX-ish OSes and programs are designed for this, but you'll have to learn
> the small tools in order to build the custom tools you want.
>
> In general, terminal commands read from "standard input" and write to
> "standard output" and "standard error".  These names are often shorted:
> standard input  = stdin  = file descriptor 0 = fd 0
> standard output = stdout = file descriptor 1 = fd 1
> standard error  = stderr = file descriptor 2 = fd 2
>
> By default, all of these are attached to your terminal.  However, you can
> use redirection and pipes to have a terminal command read or write to other
> files or other commands.
>
> "> file"  makes a command's standard output write to a new, empty file.
> ">> file" makes a command's standard output append to an existing file.
> "< file"  makes a command's standard input read from an existing file.
> "cmd1 | cmd2" makes cmd1's standard output write cmd2's standard input.
>
> "$(cmd1)" captures a command's standard output (removing the last '\n' if
> there is one) and uses it as part of the shell's input -- similar to a
> variable expansion.
>
> info:/bash/Redirections and info:/bash/Pipelines has more details.
>

Thanks. This is pretty much what I knew, but stated better than I understood.

> http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/95399/utilities/xcu_chap02.html is
> the canonical reference, but it is dry, technical, and probably has a lot
> more details that you are not interested in immediately.  The link also may
> require registration.
>

No registration needed, but it is a difficult read.

> These are particularly useful when combined with the "UNIX filter commands"
> tr, grep, sed, cut, paste, and awk plus the tee command.

I am baffled that one must type in the output to commands. For
instance, the sysadmin may need to use the existing DHCP IP address
for one reason or another. After running ifconfig, where the address
is stated, why must he type it in? I'm not looking for copy-paste in
the GUI sense, but some sort of this-to-there method for carrying
small bits of data seems so useful, basic, and would help prevent
typos.

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Re: Using terminal output as input

2009-05-17 Thread Dotan Cohen
> For stuff like that where the output is totally unpredictable, I doubt
> anything beats the flexibility of gnu/screen's copy/paste mechanism.
>

This seems to be the key that I was looking for! I will look into
gnu/screen's copy/paste mechanism. Thanks.

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Re: What is the preferred way to install packages from testing/unstable in stable?

2009-05-17 Thread Harry Rickards
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On 05/17/09 09:40, Aniruddha wrote:
> I would like to install the latest version swfdec-mozilla (because it
> offers autoplay). I intent to track stable as closely as possible. As
> far I can tell there are four possibilities to achieve this:
> 
> 1) Temporary enable testing/unstable repositories and install the program
> 2) Download *.deb from packages.debian org
> 3) Use apt-pinning
> 4) Compile from source, this requires option 1 to be enabled.
> Otherwise you get the following error:
> 
> # apt-get build-dep swfdec-mozilla
> E: Build-Depends dependency for swfdec-mozilla cannot be satisfied
> because the package libswfdec-0.8-dev cannot be found
> 
> 
> I am interested to learn the best method to install a newer package
> while remaining as close (compatible) with stable as possible. Thanks
> in advance!
> 
> 
You could use backports.org. It doesn't look as though they have
swfdec-mozilla, but if you want to install any other packages from
testing/unstable you can either download the deb's from
http://www.backports.org/ or add
'deb http://www.backports.org/debian lenny-backports main contrib non-free'
to your sources.list. You'll then need to update ('aptitude update') as
usual, and specify to install from backports for the package you want.
e.g, 'aptitude -t lenny-backports install package-you-want' Hope that
was of some help.

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Re: Apache virtual map for Exchange OWA?

2009-05-17 Thread Gilles Mocellin
On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 10:23:29PM -0700, Phillipus Gunawan wrote:
> 
> Hi There,
> 
> Is there anyway we can trick Exchange OWA to be redirected via Apache server?
> I had SBS 2003 with OWA working OK locally
> But the http server is on my Debian box
> 
> Can I somehow make virtual directory (or something else) under Apache so when 
> user type www.mydomain.com/exchange,
> it will actually being redirected to my OWA exchange?
> 
> Ive tried to googling around but the result is not what I really expected

You need to search for "Reverse Proxy".
I use that on my Office's DMZ.

I don't have here the precise config, but I have found it easily on the
Web.
I remeber that you need to proxy several paths, like /owa , /public...


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Re: Using terminal output as input

2009-05-17 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
Dotan Cohen wrote:
> I am baffled that one must type in the output to commands. For
> instance, the sysadmin may need to use the existing DHCP IP address
> for one reason or another. After running ifconfig, where the address
> is stated, why must he type it in? I'm not looking for copy-paste in
> the GUI sense, but some sort of this-to-there method for carrying
> small bits of data seems so useful, basic, and would help prevent
> typos.
>   

As other people have pointed out, the way to capture a command's output
is with $(command) (or `command`, though this is a bashism). However,
unless the output is exactly in the form you need (which is often not
the case; in your example ifconfig outputs a lot of information besides
the IP address), the time it takes to come out with a command line that
filters only the part you need (using tools such as head, tail, cut,
etc.) is probably much greater than the time needed to type the
information again --- or cut and paste, if this is something you'll only
do a couple of times.


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Re: What is the preferred way to install packages from testing/unstable in stable?

2009-05-17 Thread Aniruddha

Harry Rickards wrote:

On 05/17/09 09:40, Aniruddha wrote:
  

I would like to install the latest version swfdec-mozilla (because it
offers autoplay). I intent to track stable as closely as possible. As
far I can tell there are four possibilities to achieve this:

1) Temporary enable testing/unstable repositories and install the program
2) Download *.deb from packages.debian org
3) Use apt-pinning
4) Compile from source, this requires option 1 to be enabled.

I am interested to learn the best method to install a newer package
while remaining as close (compatible) with stable as possible. Thanks
in advance!



You could use backports.org. It doesn't look as though they have
swfdec-mozilla, but if you want to install any other packages from
testing/unstable you can either download the deb's from
http://www.backports.org/ or add
'deb http://www.backports.org/debian lenny-backports main contrib non-free'
to your sources.list. You'll then need to update ('aptitude update') as
usual, and specify to install from backports for the package you want.
e.g, 'aptitude -t lenny-backports install package-you-want' Hope that
was of some help.

- -- 

  
Thanks for the help! Backports is indeed a good option for some 
packages. Off course not all packages can be available in backports and 
therefor I wonder what is the best way to proceed. Or more specifically 
which of aforementioned 4 options is preferred when you want a package 
in testing/unstable that is not in backports?


Re: Using terminal output as input

2009-05-17 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 08:51:38AM -0300, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:

> As other people have pointed out, the way to capture a command's output
> is with $(command) (or `command`, though this is a bashism). 

$(command) is bashism. `command` is the "pure" bourne shell form.

$ posh
$ echo `echo hi`
hi
$ echo $(echo hi)
hi


And likewise on dash and busybox ash, which are the other shells I have
here. IIRC latest posix includes $(command) as well.

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Re: Using terminal output as input

2009-05-17 Thread Dotan Cohen
> As other people have pointed out, the way to capture a command's output
> is with $(command) (or `command`, though this is a bashism). However,
> unless the output is exactly in the form you need (which is often not
> the case; in your example ifconfig outputs a lot of information besides
> the IP address), the time it takes to come out with a command line that
> filters only the part you need (using tools such as head, tail, cut,
> etc.) is probably much greater than the time needed to type the
> information again --- or cut and paste, if this is something you'll only
> do a couple of times.
>

Yes, it seems that what I am looking for is copy-paste. I have seen it
suggested that screen can do this, though I have not yet looked into
it in detail.

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Grub stage1 not found then Error 2 on reboot

2009-05-17 Thread Andrew Malcolmson
I had a working Lenny install which I somehow hosed while
experimenting with Grub.  On boot, the message displays 'Grub loading
stage 1.5' then 'Error 2'.

I did the following to try to fix the problem:

1) I reboot from a GRML rescue CD and attempt to repair grub with grub-install

#mount /dev/sda5 /mnt
#grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda
The file /mnt/boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly.

stage1 is present at /mnt/boot/grub/stage1 and md5sum shows it is not
corrupted.  Same for stage2.

Device.map:
(hd0)   /dev/sda

2) I then tried this:

# mount -t proc none /mnt/proc
# mount -o bind /dev /mnt/dev
# chroot /mnt
# grub
grub> find /boot/grub/stage1
 (hd0,4)

grub> root (hd0,4)
 Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83

grub> setup (hd0)
 Checking if "/boot/grub/stage1" exists... yes
 Checking if "/boot/grub/stage2" exists... yes
 Checking if "/boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_5" exists... yes
 Running "embed /boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_5 (hd0)"...  15 sectors are embedded.
succeeded
 Running "install /boot/grub/stage1 (hd0) (hd0)1+15 p (hd0,4)/boot/grub/stage2
/boot/grub/menu.lst"... succeeded
Done.

This looks good but on reboot I still get Grub Error 2.

Question:

According to the Grub Manual, Error 2 means this: Bad file or
directory type -  This error is returned if a file requested is not a
regular file, but something like a symbolic link, directory, or FIFO.

The above shows that when /proc and /dev are manually mounted and grub
is run from a chroot, Grub can find stage1 and stage2 but when booting
Grub somehow does not read them as regular files.  Anyone know what
this means and what I should do?


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perl package environment problems

2009-05-17 Thread Jude DaShiell

The perl warnings are still with me:



perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
LANGUAGE = (unset),
LC_ALL = (unset),
LANG = ""en_US.UTF-8""
are supported and installed on your system. perl: warning: Falling 
back to the standard locale ("C"). After having reinstalled locales and 
having done dpkg-reconfigure locales and chosen my locale, this problem 
set persists.  Doing export LANG = en_US.UTF-8 just hangs the system and I 
was doing that as root.  The oupgrade process used a sarge-net-inst disk 
and actually installed lenny then I did the upgrade from lenny to sid and 
came up with this complication.  What did I forget to do that caused this 
complication?



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Re: What is the preferred way to install packages from testing/unstable in stable?

2009-05-17 Thread JoeHill
Aniruddha wrote: 

> I would like to install the latest version swfdec-mozilla (because it
> offers autoplay). I intent to track stable as closely as possible. As
> far I can tell there are four possibilities to achieve this:
> 
> 1) Temporary enable testing/unstable repositories and install the program
> 2) Download *.deb from packages.debian org
> 3) Use apt-pinning
> 4) Compile from source, this requires option 1 to be enabled.

I use apt-pinning and it works really well. I followed the Debian apt-pinning
howto and now run a mix of Testing and Unstable.

http://wiki.debian.org/AptPinning

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Re: Using terminal output as input

2009-05-17 Thread John Hasler
Dotan Cohen writes:
> Yes, it seems that what I am looking for is copy-paste. I have seen it
> suggested that screen can do this, though I have not yet looked into it
> in detail.

The Linux console can do it with gpm.
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Re: Apache virtual map for Exchange OWA?

2009-05-17 Thread Phillipus Gunawan

Thanks for your reply,

brilliant... but its not easy because OWA is https
I got it working with http but need to trial-error to get https working

thanks a lot




- Original Message 
From: Gilles Mocellin 
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Sunday, 17 May, 2009 9:39:23 PM
Subject: Re: Apache virtual map for Exchange OWA?

On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 10:23:29PM -0700, Phillipus Gunawan wrote:
> 
> Hi There,
> 
> Is there anyway we can trick Exchange OWA to be redirected via Apache server?
> I had SBS 2003 with OWA working OK locally
> But the http server is on my Debian box
> 
> Can I somehow make virtual directory (or something else) under Apache so when 
> user type www.mydomain.com/exchange,
> it will actually being redirected to my OWA exchange?
> 
> Ive tried to googling around but the result is not what I really expected

You need to search for "Reverse Proxy".
I use that on my Office's DMZ.

I don't have here the precise config, but I have found it easily on the
Web.
I remeber that you need to proxy several paths, like /owa , /public...



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X problem after upgrade--help!

2009-05-17 Thread Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum

Hi. I just upgraded from testing to unstable, in order to get some updated 
packages I need.

X is now not working, and i dont know why. There are no useful messages in 
/var/log/Xorg.0.log, that i can tell--no errors are reported adn the only thing 
that looks bad is "SELinux: Disabled on system, not enabling in X server".

There are no useful messages in /var/log/messages.

In /var/log/gdm/:0.log I get an error "RADEON(0): [dri] RADEONDRIGetVersion 
failed to open the DRM" and then "[dri] Disabling DRI."; but then perhaps 
better, "Unhandled monitor type 0 after xf86InitialConfiguration" "Output LCD1 
disable success". At the end of this log there is "/usr/bin/X: symbol lookup 
error: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libdri.so: undefined symbol: 
atiddxAbiDixLookupPrivate".

This is on a Lenovo Thinkpad T60, so the monitor should be supported. But when 
I look at my xorg.conf file, there's almost nothing there (i had an 
autogenerated file). When I try to rerun it with dpkg-reconfigure -phigh 
xserver-xorg, it gives me the same thing.

How can i get X working again?  This is crucial for my system! If theres more 
info i can give i"ll give it!

Thanks.

Jen.


  


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df output

2009-05-17 Thread Adam Hardy

Hi,

it looks like I've messed up one of my hard drives after filling the drive up to 
full - deleting files is not freeing up space, at least not according to 'df'.


I get this output:

FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda1 9.2G  2.8G  6.0G  33% /
tmpfs 126M 0  126M   0% /lib/init/rw
udev   10M   64K   10M   1% /dev
tmpfs 126M 0  126M   0% /dev/shm
/dev/hda6  26G  173M   25G   1% /data1
/dev/hdb1 688G  663G 0 100% /data2

hdb1 is causing concern. I unmounted and remounted it without noticeable effect 
- anyone know what I've done wrong and how I can sort it out?


Tried fsck but it said it was clean:

a...@arnor:~$ sudo fsck -C /dev/hdb1
fsck 1.40-WIP (14-Nov-2006)
e2fsck 1.40-WIP (14-Nov-2006)
/dev/hdb1: clean, 3812608/91586560 files, 176417057/183143000 blocks



Thanks
Adam


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Re: No console from X

2009-05-17 Thread Ed Jabbour
On Saturday 16 May 2009 17:33:28 Florian Kulzer wrote:
> > > > > On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 14:33:32 -0400, Ed Jabbour wrote:
> > > > > > On Friday 15 May 2009 13:34:45 Florian Kulzer wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Thu,14.May.09, 20:57:29, Ed Jabbour wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > I can't get to a console from X.  I.e., alt-ctrl-f1, 2
> > > > > > > > > >  get me only a black screen with no prompt.  The same
> > > > > > > > > > thing happens if I try "console login" from kdm.  inittab
> > > > > > > > > > is the default. Graphics driver NVidia 173.14.09.  Any
> > > > > > > > > > hints, pointers, appreciated.
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> > > > > grep -Ei 'vesa|nvidia|frame|buffer' /var/log/syslog
>
> [...]
>
> > OK.  I rebooted and ran it again.  Not sure it's relevant, but:
> >
> > May 16 16:45:32 Ajax kernel: [0.00] ACPI: FACP 7BF649BA, 00F4 (r3
> > NVIDIA MCP67-M   604 PTL_F4240)
> > May 16 16:45:32 Ajax kernel: [0.00] ACPI: DSDT 7BF5C13A, 880C (r1
> > NVIDIAMCP67  604 MSFT  300)
> > May 16 16:45:32 Ajax kernel: [0.084002] Security Framework
> > initialized May 16 16:45:45 Ajax kernel: [   26.584309] NVRM: loading
> > NVIDIA UNIX x86 Kernel Module  173.14.09  Wed Jun  4 23:43:17 PDT 2008
>
> Which kernel do you run? You do not seem to have any active framebuffer;
> with standard Debian kernels you should see something like this:
[snip]
>
> Do you see any framebuffer devices at all?
>
> $ ls -l /dev/fb*
> crw-rw 1 root video 29, 0 2009-05-16 19:43 /dev/fb0

Nope.  No fb anything in /dev.
[snip]
>
> If you rolled your kernel then you have to watch out for vesafb and
> nvidiafb; for comparison, here are the settings for the standard
> 2.6.29-2-amd64 Debian kernel:
>
> $ grep -E 'VESA|NVIDIA' /boot/config-$(uname -r)
> CONFIG_FB_BOOT_VESA_SUPPORT=y
> CONFIG_FB_UVESA=m
> CONFIG_FB_VESA=y
> CONFIG_FB_NVIDIA=m
> # CONFIG_FB_NVIDIA_I2C is not set
> # CONFIG_FB_NVIDIA_DEBUG is not set
> CONFIG_FB_NVIDIA_BACKLIGHT=y
> CONFIG_BACKLIGHT_MBP_NVIDIA=m

I haven't rolled my own since my gentoo days.  I run 2.6.26-2-686.  It looks 
like yours but for CONFIG_FB_BOOT_VESA_SUPPORT, which is not an option at 
all.  Not that it's not set - it doesn't exist in the kernel.  If you look at 
Joel Roth's post, it doesn't seem to be in his, either, and he's facing the 
same problem.  Is it that config that generates the fb*?


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Heads-up: KDE4 hitting testing tonight (UTC)

2009-05-17 Thread Adeodato Simó
Hello,

For those following testing, this is just a quick mail to let you know
that KDE4 will become available in Squeeze with tonight's mirror pulse.
(It's KDE 4.2.2, I'm told 4.2.3 will shortly be uploaded to unstable.)

A note for compiz users: unfortunately it hasn't been possible to migrate
to testing the new compiz, useable with KDE4, because it also depends on
a newer GNOME. In order to upgrade to KDE4, you will have to temporarily
uninstall compiz-kde, or grab compiz-kde and dependencies from unstable.

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Re: ESS Maestro3 + Lenny

2009-05-17 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
* Florian Kulzer [090516 21:14 +0200]
> On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 20:51:00 +0200, Elimar Riesebieter wrote:
> > * Florian Kulzer [090516 18:53 +0200]
> > > On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 00:25:44 -0400, Dennis Creedan wrote:
> > > > All,
> > > > 
> > > > I've upgraded from woody to sarge to etch to lenny, and I am having 
> > > > problems
> > > > with sound.  (I had no problems in woody, but I did not test sound in 
> > > > sarge
> > > > or etch since it was one upgrade right after the other).  Here are my 
> > > > specs:
> > > > 
> > > > Debian 5.0 (lenny) on Dell Inspiron 8100.  Sound card is obviously an 
> > > > ESS
> > > > Maestro3
> > 
> > Since alsa-driver 1.0.17.dfsg-1 maestro3 ist supported anymore.
> > Don't know which Debian Kernel version removes it because of DFSG
> > violations.
> 
> Does that mean the information on the Debian wiki is incorrect?
> 
> http://wiki.debian.org/snd-maestro3

In linux-2.6 2.6.23-1, the binary-only firmware in this driver was removed (see
the package changelog), due to discovered licensing issues. This was also
removed from the alsa-source package to resolve bug 483918.

alsa-firmware isn't distributed by Debian. Building maestro3 from alsa-source
package >= 1.0.17-1 isn't possible.

> > Custom Kernels can be build with maestro3.
> 
> >From upstream sources, I assume?

For kernels > than the debian linux-2.6 2.6.23-1 you need to compile
the maestro driver from a vanilla one.

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Re: ESS Maestro3 + Lenny

2009-05-17 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
* Dennis Creedan [090516 18:16 -0400]
> >
> > Since alsa-driver 1.0.17.dfsg-1 maestro3 ist supported anymore.
> > Don't know which Debian Kernel version removes it because of DFSG
> > violations.
> >
> > Custom Kernels can be build with maestro3.
> >
> 
> >> How do I go about doing this?

Find howto's on the debian wiki pages.

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Re: Using terminal output as input

2009-05-17 Thread Roger Leigh
On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 01:11:54PM +, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
> On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 08:51:38AM -0300, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:
> 
> > As other people have pointed out, the way to capture a command's output
> > is with $(command) (or `command`, though this is a bashism). 
> 
> $(command) is bashism. `command` is the "pure" bourne shell form.
> 
> And likewise on dash and busybox ash, which are the other shells I have
> here. IIRC latest posix includes $(command) as well.

It is definitely *not* a bashism, given that it is supported by POSIX.
It is supported by all POSIX shells, and this does include dash.

You should definitely use $() in place of backticks where possible, and
portability concerns are unwarranted here given that all real shells
include support for it.  posh is an exception, but is not a POSIX shell
since it does not support this POSIX feature.


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Re: No console from X

2009-05-17 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 12:45:16 -0400, Ed Jabbour wrote:
> On Saturday 16 May 2009 17:33:28 Florian Kulzer wrote:
> > > > > > On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 14:33:32 -0400, Ed Jabbour wrote:
> > > > > > > On Friday 15 May 2009 13:34:45 Florian Kulzer wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Thu,14.May.09, 20:57:29, Ed Jabbour wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > I can't get to a console from X.  I.e., alt-ctrl-f1, 2
> > > > > > > > > > >  get me only a black screen with no prompt.  The same
> > > > > > > > > > > thing happens if I try "console login" from kdm.  inittab
> > > > > > > > > > > is the default. Graphics driver NVidia 173.14.09.  Any
> > > > > > > > > > > hints, pointers, appreciated.

[...]

> > Do you see any framebuffer devices at all?
> >
> > $ ls -l /dev/fb*
> > crw-rw 1 root video 29, 0 2009-05-16 19:43 /dev/fb0
> 
> Nope.  No fb anything in /dev.
> [snip]

[...]

> I haven't rolled my own since my gentoo days.  I run 2.6.26-2-686.  It looks 
> like yours but for CONFIG_FB_BOOT_VESA_SUPPORT, which is not an option at 
> all.  Not that it's not set - it doesn't exist in the kernel.

I suspect that is normal for this older kernel. (My kernel is from the
2.6.29 series.)

>If you look at 
> Joel Roth's post, it doesn't seem to be in his, either, and he's facing the 
> same problem.  Is it that config that generates the fb*?

Unfortunately, I am not sure what to think of the missing fb device, so
can only make some very general suggestions:

- In an X terminal, become root and run

  modprobe -v nvidiafb

  Does that help at all, do you get any error messages?

- Check the nvidia documentation for hints about this kind of problem; I
  have not used the nvidia driver in more than two years, so I might be
  missing something really obvious about how VT switching is supposed to
  work now.

- Try to run X with the "vesa" or the "nv" driver instead of the
  "nvidia" one. Does that restore the abiltity to switch to a
  functioning console?

- Try a newer version of the kernel (from backports.org) and/or the
  newest version of the nvidia driver.

- Try to play with the nvidia-settings tool; I would watch out for
  controls related to display brightness, the backlight, and
  (de)activation of output pipes.

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Re: df output

2009-05-17 Thread Javier Barroso
On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Adam Hardy  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> it looks like I've messed up one of my hard drives after filling the drive
> up to full - deleting files is not freeing up space, at least not according
> to 'df'.
>
> I get this output:
>
> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
> /dev/hda1             9.2G  2.8G  6.0G  33% /
> tmpfs                 126M     0  126M   0% /lib/init/rw
> udev                   10M   64K   10M   1% /dev
> tmpfs                 126M     0  126M   0% /dev/shm
> /dev/hda6              26G  173M   25G   1% /data1
> /dev/hdb1             688G  663G     0 100% /data2
>
> hdb1 is causing concern. I unmounted and remounted it without noticeable
> effect - anyone know what I've done wrong and how I can sort it out?
Don't sure, because if you umount it , then my tip won't work, but you
could grepping lsof output.

If you deleted /data2/data

lsof | grep "/data2/data"

And kill the proccess who is "blocking" your space from being free.

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Re: Convert HTML to PDF from CLI?

2009-05-17 Thread Andrew Malcolmson
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Dotan Cohen  wrote:
> I need to convert an HTML document to PDF from the CLI. Currently, I
...

> Any other ideas? Is there a konqueror- or KDE way to do this? Am I
> missing something obvious? Thanks!

If you don't mind a hands-on approach, there's this Python converter Pisa

http://code.activestate.com/recipes/572160/


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python(?) problem

2009-05-17 Thread niclas wahlgren

Problems with both reportbug and mnemosyne. Both report python problem:
>reportbug
Traceback (most recent call last):
 File "/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/reportbug/ui/gtk2_ui.py", line 459, 
in callback

   func (*args, **kwargs)
 File "/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/reportbug/ui/gtk2_ui.py", line 507, 
in execute_operation

   self.execute (*args, **kwargs)
 File "/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/reportbug/ui/gtk2_ui.py", line 801, 
in execute

   iter = self.model.append ((highlight (option), options[option]))
KeyError: 'non-critical'


>menmosyne
Fatal Python error: (pygame parachute) Segmentation Fault
Aborted

Any help appreciated

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Re: No console from X

2009-05-17 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 20:26:50 -1000, Joel Roth wrote:
> On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 07:19:49PM -1000, Joel Roth wrote:
> > 
> > Hey, neither can I. I've got pretty much the same symptoms.
> > I'll be grateful for any eyeballs/suggestions.
> 
> I'm running a recent Toshiba laptop. The black screen chvt 1
> problem hits when I use an external monitor. 
> 
> With the built-in monitor the switching occurs just fine.

Does the laptop have Fn keys for changing the display brightness and
turning the external output on/off? Do they make any difference for the
blank screen?

You could try "modprobe -v radeonfb". (As far as I can tell, this module
does not support your card, so this is a rather long shot.)

Did you ever try using the "radeonhd" driver for xorg?

Other than that, some of the more general suggestions that I just posted
in response to Ed's last mail might be worth trying (e.g. vesa driver,
newer kernel from backports).

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Re: df output

2009-05-17 Thread Adam Hardy

Javier Barroso on 17/05/09 19:24, wrote:

On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Adam Hardy  wrote:

it looks like I've messed up one of my hard drives after filling the drive
up to full - deleting files is not freeing up space, at least not according
to 'df'.

I get this output:

FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda1 9.2G  2.8G  6.0G  33% /
tmpfs 126M 0  126M   0% /lib/init/rw
udev   10M   64K   10M   1% /dev
tmpfs 126M 0  126M   0% /dev/shm
/dev/hda6  26G  173M   25G   1% /data1
/dev/hdb1 688G  663G 0 100% /data2

hdb1 is causing concern. I unmounted and remounted it without noticeable
effect - anyone know what I've done wrong and how I can sort it out?

Don't sure, because if you umount it , then my tip won't work, but you
could grepping lsof output.

If you deleted /data2/data

lsof | grep "/data2/data"

And kill the proccess who is "blocking" your space from being free.


Never knew you could do that - but you're right, it doesn't help unfortunately. 
Nothing comes up for data2 with lsof.


Thanks anyway,


Adam


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Re: ESS Maestro3 + Lenny

2009-05-17 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 17:59:22 -0400, Dennis Creedan wrote:
> I've configured Gmail to use UTF-8 for outgoing messages .. hope this
> helps.

You are still sending both a plain text and an HTML version.
 
> Here is the output of 'lspci -nn'
> 
> 02:03.0 Multimedia audio controller [0401]: ESS Technology ES1983S
> Maestro-3i PCI Audio Accelerator [125d:1998] (rev 10)

The wiki lists this chipset among the supported ones; however, this list
is based on the modinfo output of snd-maestro3 and I don't think that
the author of the wiki article had the means to test his procedure with
every listed chipset.

Anyway, Elimar has confirmed that an upstream kernel is needed for
recent versions, and he is a member of the Debian ALSA team.

> At the time of my original email, I had only tried alsa-firmware version
> 1.0.20.  I have subsequently tried 1.0.16, 17, and 19 .. all with the
> same results.

pity

> Here is the output of 'cat /proc/asound/version'
> 
> Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.16.
> 
> I installed alsa-base and alsa-utils from lenny.  I noticed that alsa-base
> is version 1.0.17.dfsg-4 and alsa-utils is version 1.0.16-2.  Is this ok?

That is OK, AFAIK.

> Again, any help is greatly appreciated.

Try to compile a vanilla kernel:

http://kernel-handbook.alioth.debian.org/ch-common-tasks.html (Sec. 4.5)
http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-kernel.en.html

Make sure to set CONFIG_SND_DEBUG to more debugging info about the sound
modules.

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Re: Convert HTML to PDF from CLI?

2009-05-17 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 06:37:45PM +, Andrew Malcolmson wrote:
> On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Dotan Cohen  wrote:
> > I need to convert an HTML document to PDF from the CLI. Currently, I
> ...
> 
> > Any other ideas? Is there a konqueror- or KDE way to do this? Am I
> > missing something obvious? Thanks!

Konqueror wouldn't be from the command line.  If you are willing to use
konqueror, then just 'print' it to a pdf file.  It works great.

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bug #350639

2009-05-17 Thread Freddy Freeloader
I'd like to point this bug out as it has been around now for 3 1/2 
months with no official resolution.  What's worse is that this bug was 
caused by the Debian gnome-volume-manager maintainer.  Nobody else is 
responsible for it.  He disabled automount when he compiled the 
gnome-volume-manager package. 

That's right.  This bug was caused by disabling automount in the 
debian-rules file.  It's now 3 1/2 months later and the person, whoever 
it is, that maintains this package hasn't gotten around to just changing 
about 10 letters in one line of text and then recompiling and uploading 
the package again.  

I have to ask why.  Why is this left up every user of testing to fix 
this problem themselves when the fix is so simple?  Why can't this fix 
be uploaded to the Debian repositories?  It's not like auto mounting of 
cd/dvd's and portable usb devices is something hardly anyone does on a 
daily basis.   

This functionality is used almost daily by everyone who has a 
computer.   However, Debian testing users must either fix this 
themselves or manually mount usb and optical disks as the Debian dev 
just ignores testing.  In my mind there is no good reason for this fix 
to go into Sid and then sit there until the dependencies are satisfied 
for that version number.   It's just a matter of enabling a flag that 
was accidentally disabled.  It's not like there are any dependency changes.



I've been a Debian user for 5 or 6 years now and very much dislike the 
idea of using another distro, but I just can't see why Debian is leaving 
bugs like this unfixed for what is probably a majority of it's desktop 
users.  

Testing is what the biggest portion of Debian users have on their 
desktops.  To flat out ignore them seems pretty strange.  Is the Debian 
development process in that much trouble, i.e. short of help, or have 
such unreasonable versioning rules that something this simple can't be 
fixed promptly?


I'd gladly volunteer to help, but I'm no developer.  I'm willing to 
learn anything but I've read where Debian devs have no desire to do any 
teaching to get help so I've never offered.   However, if things this 
simple go unfixed for this long then maybe it's time for some change. 



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Re: df output

2009-05-17 Thread Javier Barroso
On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 8:56 PM, Adam Hardy  wrote:
> Javier Barroso on 17/05/09 19:24, wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Adam Hardy 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> it looks like I've messed up one of my hard drives after filling the
>>> drive
>>> up to full - deleting files is not freeing up space, at least not
>>> according
>>> to 'df'.
>>>
>>> I get this output:
>>>
>>> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
>>> /dev/hda1             9.2G  2.8G  6.0G  33% /
>>> tmpfs                 126M     0  126M   0% /lib/init/rw
>>> udev                   10M   64K   10M   1% /dev
>>> tmpfs                 126M     0  126M   0% /dev/shm
>>> /dev/hda6              26G  173M   25G   1% /data1
>>> /dev/hdb1             688G  663G     0 100% /data2

>>>
>>> hdb1 is causing concern. I unmounted and remounted it without noticeable
>>> effect - anyone know what I've done wrong and how I can sort it out?

Ok, now I'm thinking about reserved block from filesystem is causing
this issue to you.

To verify this:

# tune2fs -l /dev/hdb1
...
Reserved block count: 
Block size: 

is  *  == 1024*1024*1024 *(688 - 663) ??

See -m flag in mkfs.ext3 [1] for the meaning of this

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Re: What is the preferred way to install packages from testing/unstable in stable?

2009-05-17 Thread Aniruddha
On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 4:38 PM, JoeHill  wrote:
> Aniruddha wrote:
>
>> I would like to install the latest version swfdec-mozilla (because it
>> offers autoplay). I intent to track stable as closely as possible. As
>> far I can tell there are four possibilities to achieve this:
>>
>> 1) Temporary enable testing/unstable repositories and install the program
>> 2) Download *.deb from packages.debian org
>> 3) Use apt-pinning
>> 4) Compile from source, this requires option 1 to be enabled.
>
> I use apt-pinning and it works really well. I followed the Debian apt-pinning
> howto and now run a mix of Testing and Unstable.
>
> http://wiki.debian.org/AptPinning
>
> --

Thanks for the tip. Are there any downsides to be expected from this
method? e.g. accidentally pulling in dependencies for lots of packages
turning my 'stable' into 'testing'. Is this a better option then
temporary enabling testing/unstable repositories or downloading the
debs from the debian.packages.org? And if so why? I'm really curious
to find the best way to run stable while installing an occasional
testing/unstable package. :)


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Re: X problem after upgrade--help!

2009-05-17 Thread Florian Kulzer
[ Please wrap your lines at 80 characters or less for ordinary
  discussion. ]

On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 08:29:42 -0700, Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum wrote:
> 
> Hi. I just upgraded from testing to unstable, in order to get some
> updated packages I need.
> 
> X is now not working, and i dont know why. There are no useful
> messages in /var/log/Xorg.0.log, that i can tell--no errors are
> reported adn the only thing that looks bad is "SELinux: Disabled on
> system, not enabling in X server".
> 
> There are no useful messages in /var/log/messages.
> 
> In /var/log/gdm/:0.log I get an error "RADEON(0): [dri]
> RADEONDRIGetVersion failed to open the DRM" and then "[dri] Disabling
> DRI."; but then perhaps better, "Unhandled monitor type 0 after
> xf86InitialConfiguration" "Output LCD1 disable success". At the end of
> this log there is "/usr/bin/X: symbol lookup error:
> /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libdri.so: undefined symbol:
> atiddxAbiDixLookupPrivate".

It looks like your X is trying to use libdri.so from the fglrx-driver
package together with the radeon driver; this cannot work. You either
have to make X use the fglrx driver (provided that you can install it
correctly) or you have to get rid of the fglrx-driver package (which
should restore the normal libdri.so from Xorg).

See also here:

http://bugs.debian.org/528800

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Re: bug #350639

2009-05-17 Thread Javier Barroso
Hi,
On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 9:31 PM, Freddy Freeloader  wrote:
> I'd like to point this bug out as it has been around now for 3 1/2 months
> with no official resolution.  What's worse is that this bug was caused by
> the Debian gnome-volume-manager maintainer.  Nobody else is responsible for
> it.  He disabled automount when he compiled the gnome-volume-manager
> package.
It seems resolved in unstable,
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=525183

I think maintainer forgot about dup (linking) these bugs.

They are working in transition to gnome 2.26, so we should have patient.

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Re: What is the preferred way to install packages from testing/unstable in stable?

2009-05-17 Thread JoeHill
Aniruddha wrote: 

> On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 4:38 PM, JoeHill  wrote:
> > Aniruddha wrote:
> >  
> >> I would like to install the latest version swfdec-mozilla (because it
> >> offers autoplay). I intent to track stable as closely as possible. As
> >> far I can tell there are four possibilities to achieve this:
> >>
> >> 1) Temporary enable testing/unstable repositories and install the program
> >> 2) Download *.deb from packages.debian org
> >> 3) Use apt-pinning
> >> 4) Compile from source, this requires option 1 to be enabled.  
> >
> > I use apt-pinning and it works really well. I followed the Debian
> > apt-pinning howto and now run a mix of Testing and Unstable.
> >
> > http://wiki.debian.org/AptPinning
> >
> > --  
> 
> Thanks for the tip. Are there any downsides to be expected from this
> method? e.g. accidentally pulling in dependencies for lots of packages
> turning my 'stable' into 'testing'.

Well, there's no 'accidental' about anything ;) You just have to pay attention
when you install something to see what changes it's making to your system.
Aptitude is not going to surprise you unless you are perhaps asleep... :-\

> Is this a better option then temporary enabling testing/unstable repositories
> or downloading the debs from the debian.packages.org? And if so why? 

I don't know much about Debian, but I know this is a really really bad idea.
Aptitude is an incredibly intelligent system for managing dependencies, let it
do it's job and don't fsck with it.

> I'm really curious to find the best way to run stable while installing an
> occasional testing/unstable package. :)

Pinning is the best way to go for this. This way, Aptitude can keep things nice
and tidy for you. You will not be impervious to bugs, but you will be far
better off than trying to keep track of things yourself.

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Re: postfix with policyd-weight

2009-05-17 Thread mouss
Phillipus Gunawan a écrit :
> Hi there,
> 
> I am trying to build postfix mail MTA spam with guide from 
> http://www.howtoforge.com/the-perfect-spamsnake-ubuntu-8.04-p1
> 

judging from -p4, where the author puts "reject_unauth_pipelining" in
smtpd_recipient_restrictions, I'd say just zap the whole thing.

note also that mailscanner isn't recommended with postfix. better use
amavisd-new.

anyway, the offcial postfix docs are on
http://www.postfix.org/documentation.html
and the postfix-users list a the good place for questions... etc,

> [snip]
> 
> [...]
> policy unix-nn--spawn
>   user=polw argv=/usr/bin/perl /usr/lib/postfix/policyd-spf-perl

this is not policyd-weight. this is policyd-spf-perl.

> [...]
> 
> 
> /usr/lib/postfix/policyd-spf-perl owned by polw:polw
> 
> 
> Error log:
> postfix/smtpd[3112]: connect from web65713.mail.ac4.yahoo.com[76.13.9.105]
> postfix/spawn[3117]: warning: command /usr/bin/perl exit status 2

what happens if you run the perl script manually?

> postfix/smtpd[3112]: warning: premature end-of-input on private/policy while 
> reading input attribute name
> postfix/spawn[3117]: warning: command /usr/bin/perl exit status 2
> postfix/smtpd[3112]: warning: premature end-of-input on private/policy while 
> reading input attribute name
> postfix/smtpd[3112]: warning: problem talking to server private/policy: 
> Connection reset by peer
> postfix/smtpd[3112]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from 
> web65713.mail.ac4.yahoo.com[76.13.9.105]: 451 4.3.5 Server configuration 
> problem; from= to= 
> proto=SMTP helo=
> postfix/smtpd[3112]: disconnect from web65713.mail.ac4.yahoo.com[76.13.9.105]
> 
> 


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Re: No console from X

2009-05-17 Thread Joel Roth
On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 08:28:42PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 20:26:50 -1000, Joel Roth wrote:
> > On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 07:19:49PM -1000, Joel Roth wrote:
> > > 
> > > Hey, neither can I. I've got pretty much the same symptoms.
> > > I'll be grateful for any eyeballs/suggestions.
> > 
> > I'm running a recent Toshiba laptop. The black screen chvt 1
> > problem hits when I use an external monitor. 
> > 
> > With the built-in monitor the switching occurs just fine.
> 
> Does the laptop have Fn keys for changing the display brightness and
> turning the external output on/off? Do they make any difference for the
> blank screen?

These keys don't work under my current kernel version/drivers. 
I haven't visited this issue lately. It would be great to 
get them working (along with suspend and the wifi driver
installed.)

FWIW it's a Toshiba L305D-S5890.

I get an external monitor to work by booting with the cable 
plugged into my RGB connector. 

 
> You could try "modprobe -v radeonfb". (As far as I can tell, this module
> does not support your card, so this is a rather long shot.)

I do get a result from that.

$ sudo modprobe -v radeonfb
insmod /lib/modules/2.6.26-1-686/kernel/drivers/i2c/algos/i2c-algo-bit.ko 
insmod /lib/modules/2.6.26-1-686/kernel/drivers/video/fb_ddc.ko 
insmod /lib/modules/2.6.26-1-686/kernel/drivers/video/aty/radeonfb.ko 

lsmod | grep radeon

radeonfb   91680  0 
fb_ddc  2080  1 radeonfb
i2c_algo_bit5188  1 radeonfb
i2c_core   19828  4 radeonfb,fb_ddc,i2c_algo_bit,i2c_piix4

Does this mean I am changing video drivers on the fly?

> Did you ever try using the "radeonhd" driver for xorg?

No, not yet. Would that be using 'dbkg-reconfigure xserver-org' ??

> Other than that, some of the more general suggestions that I just posted
> in response to Ed's last mail might be worth trying (e.g. vesa driver,
> newer kernel from backports).

Thanks for your suggestions!

Joel

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Re: What is the preferred way to install packages from testing/unstable in stable?

2009-05-17 Thread Michael M. Moore
On Sun, 2009-05-17 at 21:50 +0200, Aniruddha wrote:
> On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 4:38 PM, JoeHill  wrote:
> > Aniruddha wrote:
> >
> >> I would like to install the latest version swfdec-mozilla (because it
> >> offers autoplay). I intent to track stable as closely as possible. As
> >> far I can tell there are four possibilities to achieve this:
> >>
> >> 1) Temporary enable testing/unstable repositories and install the program
> >> 2) Download *.deb from packages.debian org
> >> 3) Use apt-pinning
> >> 4) Compile from source, this requires option 1 to be enabled.
> >
> > I use apt-pinning and it works really well. I followed the Debian 
> > apt-pinning
> > howto and now run a mix of Testing and Unstable.
> >
> > http://wiki.debian.org/AptPinning
> >
> > --
> 
> Thanks for the tip. Are there any downsides to be expected from this
> method? e.g. accidentally pulling in dependencies for lots of packages
> turning my 'stable' into 'testing'. Is this a better option then
> temporary enabling testing/unstable repositories or downloading the
> debs from the debian.packages.org? And if so why? I'm really curious
> to find the best way to run stable while installing an occasional
> testing/unstable package. :)

There are always downsides.  :-)

You won't "accidentally" pull lots of packages from testing unless you
aren't paying attention.  That's important:  pay attention.  That said,
as long as you do pay attention and don't go blindly installing testing
or unstable packages, you should be fine.

I use a pretty conservative pinning, more conservative than what is
given on the wiki.  Mine is taken from Martin Krafft's book "The Debian
System," recently recommended on this list:

mcu...@drifter:~$ cat /etc/apt/apt.conf
APT::Default-Release "stable";
APT::Cache-Limit 33554432;

mcu...@drifter:~$ cat /etc/apt/preferences 
Package: *
Pin: release a=stable
Pin-Priority: 900

Package: *
Pin: release a=testing
Pin-Priority: 90

Package: *
Pin: release a=unstable
Pin-Priority: 80


With some packages, attempting to install them from testing or unstable
causes no issues whatsoever.  For example, I recently installed zim from
testing (zim-0.28-1), rather than stable (zim-0.25.1), because the newer
version has several improvements.  zim-0.28-1 only depends on packages
that are already in stable, so it didn't pull in any dependencies from
testing and didn't require any other upgrades.  OTOH, look at what would
happen if I tried to upgrade transmission from stable to testing:

mcu...@drifter:~$ sudo aptitude install -s -t testing transmission
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree   
Reading state information... Done
Reading extended state information  
Initializing package states... Done
Reading task descriptions... Done  
The following packages are BROKEN:
  gtk2-engines-pixbuf libc6-i386 locales 
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  libgssapi-krb5-2{a} libk5crypto3{a} libkrb5-3{a} libkrb5support0{a} 
The following packages will be upgraded:
  libc6 libdbus-glib-1-2 libgcrypt11 libglib2.0-0 libgnutls26
libgpg-error0 libgtk2.0-0 libnotify1 libpcre3 libtasn1-3 
  libxrandr2 transmission transmission-cli transmission-common
transmission-gtk 
The following packages are RECOMMENDED but will NOT be installed:
  libglib2.0-data 
15 packages upgraded, 4 newly installed, 0 to remove and 547 not
upgraded.
Need to get 11.3MB of archives. After unpacking 3309kB will be used.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  libc6-i386: Depends: libc6 (= 2.7-18) but 2.9-4 is to be installed.
  locales: Depends: glibc-2.7-1 which is a virtual package.
  gtk2-engines-pixbuf: Depends: libgtk2.0-0 (= 2.12.12-1~lenny1) but
2.16.1-2 is to be installed.
The following actions will resolve these dependencies:

Upgrade the following packages:
gtk2-engines-pixbuf [2.12.12-1~lenny1 (stable, now) -> 2.16.1-2
(testing, unstable)]
libc6-i386 [2.7-18 (stable, now) -> 2.9-4 (testing)]
locales [2.7-18 (stable, now) -> 2.9-4 (testing)]

Score is 200

Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?] 


You can see that would be more disruptive.  The good thing is aptitude
will tell you what it wants to do to satisfy your request, and you can
fiddle with it or reconsider whether your request is worth the potential
for trouble.

I suggest using the -s (--simulate) option anytime you are thinking
about installing a package from testing or unstable, just to give
yourself that much more forewarning about what might happen.  If you do
end up taking the plunge with some packages that are really important to
you and wind up with substantial chunks of testing mixed in with your
stable system, then you probably also would want to be very careful
everytime you 'safe-upgrade,' maybe using the -s option there too.
Personally, I am being pretty conservative about the whole thing and
only installing a few packages here and there where the gain is
noticable and the pain is negligible.

Pinning gives you enough ammunition to shoot yourself in the foot (or
even

swapfile

2009-05-17 Thread steef

hi list,

starting up lenny, my machine hanged on 'activating swapfile swap' (or 
something like that)
starting up my machine a second and third time did not give any trouble 
at all.


is there a generally known reason for a computerstart hanging on 
activating a swapfile?

in all those years i am using debian this never happened before.

smrtctl told me the hd is ok (for what that is worth??)

regards,

steef


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Re: swapfile

2009-05-17 Thread Roger Leigh
On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 11:09:48PM +0200, steef wrote:
> hi list,
>
> starting up lenny, my machine hanged on 'activating swapfile swap' (or  
> something like that)
>
> is there a generally known reason for a computerstart hanging on  
> activating a swapfile?

If the same disk already had your root filesystem mounted, then you
can assume the disk spun up and was at least partially working.  It's
possible that there was a bad block in the swap area that the disk
was getting stuck reading.  But if that was the case you should see
disk errors.

Is it possible it was sticking on the startup task immediately after
activating the swapfile?

> smrtctl told me the hd is ok (for what that is worth??)

I've had plenty of duff disks report just fine with smartctl.  Take
it with a big pinch of salt!


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Re: df output

2009-05-17 Thread Adam Hardy

Javier Barroso on 17/05/09 20:48, wrote:
 I get this output:

 FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
 /dev/hda1 9.2G  2.8G  6.0G  33% /
 tmpfs 126M 0  126M   0% /lib/init/rw
 udev   10M   64K   10M   1% /dev
 tmpfs 126M 0  126M   0% /dev/shm
 /dev/hda6  26G  173M   25G   1% /data1
 /dev/hdb1 688G  663G 0 100% /data2
>
 hdb1 is causing concern. I unmounted and remounted it without noticeable
 effect - anyone know what I've done wrong and how I can sort it out?
>
> Ok, now I'm thinking about reserved block from filesystem is causing
> this issue to you.
>
> To verify this:
>
> # tune2fs -l /dev/hdb1
> ...
> Reserved block count: 
> Block size: 
>
> is  *  == 1024*1024*1024 *(688 - 663) ??
>
> See -m flag in mkfs.ext3 [1] for the meaning of this
>
> Regards,
> [1] 
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>

Reserved block count: 9157150
Block size:   4096

x * y = 37.508x10^9

Filesystem   1K-blocks  Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/hdb1721075720 694171948 0 100% /data2

1024 * (721,075,720 - 694,171,948) = 27.549x10^9

Looks to me as if there's something else going on as well as that then.


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Re: BUG: ... kernel NULL pointer reference ... udevadm timeout

2009-05-17 Thread Bram Vromans

In-Reply-To=<20090322054558.gc13...@hamsu.tarvainen.info> (sorry my Yahoo-mail 
doesn't seem to support the in-reply-to field in the header).

Tapani,

I had exactly the same problem on a fresh Lenny install on an (old) Dell 
Latitude Cpi D266XT. The following worked for me:

add a line with "blacklist snd_cs4232" to the file /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.

I think on my computer the linux/Lenny incorrectly loads the snd_cs4232 module 
where it probably should load the snd_cs4236 module and this leads to a 3 min. 
freeze. Am now in the midst of setting up sound according to 
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=90869.

Good luck,
Bram


  


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Re: df output

2009-05-17 Thread Adam Hardy

Adam Hardy on 17/05/09 22:44, wrote:

Javier Barroso on 17/05/09 20:48, wrote:
  I get this output:
 
  FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
  /dev/hda1 9.2G  2.8G  6.0G  33% /
  tmpfs 126M 0  126M   0% /lib/init/rw
  udev   10M   64K   10M   1% /dev
  tmpfs 126M 0  126M   0% /dev/shm
  /dev/hda6  26G  173M   25G   1% /data1
  /dev/hdb1 688G  663G 0 100% /data2
 >
  hdb1 is causing concern. I unmounted and remounted it without 
noticeable

  effect - anyone know what I've done wrong and how I can sort it out?
 >
 > Ok, now I'm thinking about reserved block from filesystem is causing
 > this issue to you.
 >
 > To verify this:
 >
 > # tune2fs -l /dev/hdb1
 > ...
 > Reserved block count: 
 > Block size: 
 >
 > is  *  == 1024*1024*1024 *(688 - 663) ??
 >
 > See -m flag in mkfs.ext3 [1] for the meaning of this
 >
 > Regards,
 > [1] 
http://manpages.debian.net/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=mkfs.ext3&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=Debian+Sid&format=html&locale=en 


 >

Reserved block count: 9157150
Block size:   4096

x * y = 37.508x10^9

Filesystem   1K-blocks  Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/hdb1721075720 694171948 0 100% /data2

1024 * (721,075,720 - 694,171,948) = 27.549x10^9

Looks to me as if there's something else going on as well as that then.


No, sorry, I mixed it up. There should be more reserved than that difference, so 
that looks like a very good reason why there's none available.


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failed to upgrade to next kernel package

2009-05-17 Thread gianni
I dont understand the problem, when the new kernel was issued, I did run
apt-get update & apt-get upgrade...
and I get this error

"Unpacking replacement linux-image-2.6.26-2-686 ...
dpkg: error
processing 
/var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.26-2-686_2.6.26-15lenny2_i386.deb 
(--unpack):
 failed in buffer_write(fd) (10, ret=-1): backend dpkg-deb during
`./lib/modules/2.6.26-2-686/kernel/sound/usb/snd-usb-audio.ko': No space
left on device
dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)"

I tried to force the installation with apt-get -f install, but is the
some story...

thanks


p.s.

I run debian lenny 
 



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Re: No console from X

2009-05-17 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 10:26:00 -1000, Joel Roth wrote:
> On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 08:28:42PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> > On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 20:26:50 -1000, Joel Roth wrote:
> > > On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 07:19:49PM -1000, Joel Roth wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Hey, neither can I. I've got pretty much the same symptoms.
> > > > I'll be grateful for any eyeballs/suggestions.
> > > 
> > > I'm running a recent Toshiba laptop. The black screen chvt 1
> > > problem hits when I use an external monitor. 
> > > 
> > > With the built-in monitor the switching occurs just fine.
> > 
> > Does the laptop have Fn keys for changing the display brightness and
> > turning the external output on/off? Do they make any difference for the
> > blank screen?
> 
> These keys don't work under my current kernel version/drivers. 

This might be another symptom of the same problem.

> I haven't visited this issue lately. It would be great to 
> get them working (along with suspend and the wifi driver
> installed.)
> 
> FWIW it's a Toshiba L305D-S5890.
> 
> I get an external monitor to work by booting with the cable 
> plugged into my RGB connector. 

That suggests to me that some problem with recognizing the monitor as
connected during the VT switch might be responsible for your issue. (I
have no experience with Radeon HD chipsets, so I am really only guessing
here.)

> > You could try "modprobe -v radeonfb". (As far as I can tell, this module
> > does not support your card, so this is a rather long shot.)
> 
> I do get a result from that.
> 
> $ sudo modprobe -v radeonfb
> insmod /lib/modules/2.6.26-1-686/kernel/drivers/i2c/algos/i2c-algo-bit.ko 
> insmod /lib/modules/2.6.26-1-686/kernel/drivers/video/fb_ddc.ko 
> insmod /lib/modules/2.6.26-1-686/kernel/drivers/video/aty/radeonfb.ko 
> 
> lsmod | grep radeon
> 
> radeonfb   91680  0 
> fb_ddc  2080  1 radeonfb
> i2c_algo_bit5188  1 radeonfb
> i2c_core   19828  4 radeonfb,fb_ddc,i2c_algo_bit,i2c_piix4

But still no luck with switching to the console, I assume?

> Does this mean I am changing video drivers on the fly?

Not really, you just loaded another module that could provide a driver
for a framebuffer device. (This is different from the Xorg driver module
for your card.)

It would be interesting to know if you get a /dev/fb? device once
radeonfb is loaded. (I am not too optimistic, though.) 

> > Did you ever try using the "radeonhd" driver for xorg?
> 
> No, not yet. Would that be using 'dbkg-reconfigure xserver-org' ??

You can just edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf, replace "radeon" or "ati"
with "radeonhd" and restart X. (The package xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd
has to be installed.)

Mind you, I do not know how stable the current version of radeonhd is;
it is still a relatively new driver.

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Re: failed to upgrade to next kernel package

2009-05-17 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
gianni wrote:
> I dont understand the problem, when the new kernel was issued, I did run
> apt-get update & apt-get upgrade...
> and I get this error
>
> "Unpacking replacement linux-image-2.6.26-2-686 ...
> dpkg: error
> processing 
> /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.26-2-686_2.6.26-15lenny2_i386.deb 
> (--unpack):
>  failed in buffer_write(fd) (10, ret=-1): backend dpkg-deb during
> `./lib/modules/2.6.26-2-686/kernel/sound/usb/snd-usb-audio.ko': No space
> left on device
> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)"
>
> I tried to force the installation with apt-get -f install, but is the
> some story...
>   

The message is quite clear: you are out of space on some device, in the
one that holds the /lib directory (most probably, this is you root
filesystem). You'll have to free some space.

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install proprietary nvidia driver without xorg.conf?

2009-05-17 Thread Michael M. Moore
I thought I'd try the proprietary nvidia driver (currently using 'nv'),
so I've been reading through the how-to on the wiki here:

http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers

I'm a little concerned, though, that it might be out-of-date (for one,
because it keeps talking about Etch), especially given the changes in
xorg.  Specifically, step 3:

http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#ConfigureXtousethenvidiadriver

It says for Lenny you have to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf to load "glx"
module and remove "dri" or "GLCore" modules, under the "Module" section;
and that you need to change the driver (from "nv" to "nvidia") under the
"Device" section.

My xorg.conf has no module section and the "Device" section is only:

Section "Device"
Identifier  "Configured Video Device"
EndSection

I thought HAL had taken over some of the functions formerly handled in
xorg.conf, but there's no mention of that on the wiki doc.

So what exactly is the procedure for installing the proprietary driver
now?

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Re: install proprietary nvidia driver without xorg.conf?

2009-05-17 Thread JoeHill
Michael M. Moore wrote: 

> I thought I'd try the proprietary nvidia driver (currently using 'nv'),
> so I've been reading through the how-to on the wiki here:
> 
> http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers
> 
> I'm a little concerned, though, that it might be out-of-date (for one,
> because it keeps talking about Etch), especially given the changes in
> xorg.  Specifically, step 3:
> 
> http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#ConfigureXtousethenvidiadriver
> 
> It says for Lenny you have to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf to load "glx"
> module and remove "dri" or "GLCore" modules, under the "Module" section;
> and that you need to change the driver (from "nv" to "nvidia") under the
> "Device" section.
> 
> My xorg.conf has no module section and the "Device" section is only:
> 
> Section "Device"
> Identifier  "Configured Video Device"
> EndSection
> 
> I thought HAL had taken over some of the functions formerly handled in
> xorg.conf, but there's no mention of that on the wiki doc.
> 
> So what exactly is the procedure for installing the proprietary driver
> now?

For me, on Testing, it was 'aptitude install nvidia-glx'. That was it. Oh,
wait, maybe I had to run 'nvidia-xconfig', but that was definitely _it_. I
absolutely, positively, did not have to edit any config files.

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Re: failed to upgrade to next kernel package

2009-05-17 Thread Patrick Wiseman
On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 5:51 PM, gianni  wrote:
> I dont understand the problem, when the new kernel was issued, I did run
> apt-get update & apt-get upgrade...
> and I get this error
>
> "Unpacking replacement linux-image-2.6.26-2-686 ...
> dpkg: error
> processing 
> /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.26-2-686_2.6.26-15lenny2_i386.deb 
> (--unpack):
>  failed in buffer_write(fd) (10, ret=-1): backend dpkg-deb during
> `./lib/modules/2.6.26-2-686/kernel/sound/usb/snd-usb-audio.ko': No space
> left on device

That says you're out of disk space.  What does 'df -h' tell you?

> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)"
>
> I tried to force the installation with apt-get -f install, but is the
> some story...

Patrick


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how to fix where grub boots from

2009-05-17 Thread Mark Neidorff
Hi all,

A system that I am building has 2 HDDs--one is EIDE the other is SATA.  Etch 
is installed on the EIDE drive and an almost complete update from Etch to 
Lenny is installed on the SATA drive.  Normally grub boots from the SATA 
drive.  Last night there were power problems and today the system boots from 
the EIDE drive instad of the SATA drive.  What command do I issue to tell 
grub to boot from the SATA drive again?  (all the files are still on the SATA 
drive.  This is just a matter of telling grub where to read menu.lst from)

Thanks,

Mark


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executing udev rules on _un_plug

2009-05-17 Thread Cameron Hutchison
How can I write a udev rule to be run/matched when a device is
unplugged?

I have a 3G modem that I wrote a rule for to run "ifup ppp0" when the
modem is plugged in. I would like to have "ifdown ppp0" be automatically
run when the modem is unplugged.

Without a rule to run "ifdown ppp0", the network state of ppp0 is
remembered as up, so if I plug in the modem again, "ifup ppp0" then
fails because it says the interface is already configured.


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Re: bug #350639

2009-05-17 Thread Matteo Riva
On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 9:58 PM, Javier Barroso  wrote:

> It seems resolved in unstable,
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=525183

I have rebuilt the package from source as suggested by a user in that
bug report, but now the update manager flags gnome-volume-manager as
needing an update.  How can I avoid this?

Thanks.


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Re: failed to upgrade to next kernel package

2009-05-17 Thread Patrick Wiseman
[Replying to debian-user, including OP's reply to me, which was
presumably intended for debian-user.]

On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 6:32 PM, gianni  wrote:
> Hi Patrick
> this is the result from df -h
> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
> /dev/mapper/machina-root
>                      322M  272M   34M  90% /
> tmpfs                 1.5G     0  1.5G   0% /lib/init/rw
> udev                   10M  128K  9.9M   2% /dev
> tmpfs                 1.5G     0  1.5G   0% /dev/shm
> /dev/sda1             228M   25M  191M  12% /boot
> /dev/mapper/machina-home
>                      136G   99G   32G  76% /home
> /dev/mapper/machina-usr
>                      4.6G  3.1G  1.4G  70% /usr
> /dev/mapper/machina-var
>                      2.8G  1.3G  1.4G  49% /var
> tmpfs                 1.5G   20K  1.5G   1% /tmp
>
> the system is only 1 week old... I used the default option with the LVM,
> what should I delete?

You have a very small root partition (322M) apparently, which is
almost full, and which is where /lib resides (as you have no separate
mapping for it).  I'm not sure what to suggest at this point (which is
why these conversations should stay on the list; others may have all
kinds of partition magic they can suggest, perhaps to expand the root
partition while preserving your others, etc.).

Patrick


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Re: failed to upgrade to next kernel package

2009-05-17 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 07:04:11PM -0400, Patrick Wiseman wrote:
> [Replying to debian-user, including OP's reply to me, which was
> presumably intended for debian-user.]
> 
> On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 6:32 PM, gianni  wrote:
> > Hi Patrick
> > this is the result from df -h
> > Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
> > /dev/mapper/machina-root
> >                      322M  272M   34M  90% /
> > tmpfs                 1.5G     0  1.5G   0% /lib/init/rw
> > udev                   10M  128K  9.9M   2% /dev
> > tmpfs                 1.5G     0  1.5G   0% /dev/shm
> > /dev/sda1             228M   25M  191M  12% /boot
> > /dev/mapper/machina-home
> >                      136G   99G   32G  76% /home
> > /dev/mapper/machina-usr
> >                      4.6G  3.1G  1.4G  70% /usr
> > /dev/mapper/machina-var
> >                      2.8G  1.3G  1.4G  49% /var
> > tmpfs                 1.5G   20K  1.5G   1% /tmp
> >
> > the system is only 1 week old... I used the default option with the LVM,
> > what should I delete?
> 
> You have a very small root partition (322M) apparently, which is
> almost full, and which is where /lib resides (as you have no separate
> mapping for it).  I'm not sure what to suggest at this point (which is
> why these conversations should stay on the list; others may have all
> kinds of partition magic they can suggest, perhaps to expand the root
> partition while preserving your others, etc.).

Do you have a kernel that you are not using to boot which you could
remove, e.g. a -1 if you are trying to install a -2 version kernel?

I have a 477 MB / partition, of which 166 MB is used and I have both
2.6.26-1-686 and 2.6.26-2-686 kernels installed.

You should probably see what is taking up so much space in / since you
have separate /home, /var, /usr, with /tmp on tmpfs.  FYI, my /boot only
has 14 MB in it (two kernels, plus the grub stuff).

If there is nothing extraneous in / (including stuff in /root that
shouldn't be there), since this is LVM, can't you resize the partitions?
Assuming that you don't have any free space in the machina VG, take 500
MB from machine-home and add it to machina-root, taking care to do
whatever filesystem resizing is necessary (depending on what filesystem
type you are using).

Doug.


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Re: swapfile

2009-05-17 Thread Tiago Saboga
steef  writes:

> hi list,
>
> starting up lenny, my machine hanged on 'activating swapfile swap' (or
> something like that)
> starting up my machine a second and third time did not give any
> trouble at all.
>
> is there a generally known reason for a computerstart hanging on
> activating a swapfile?
> in all those years i am using debian this never happened before.

It's happening too, exactly the same. That's just one machine; several
others are running just fine with lenny.

Tiago Saboga.


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Re: No console from X

2009-05-17 Thread Ed Jabbour
On Sunday 17 May 2009 13:57:45 Florian Kulzer wrote:
> On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 12:45:16 -0400, Ed Jabbour wrote:
> > On Saturday 16 May 2009 17:33:28 Florian Kulzer wrote:
> > > > > > > On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 14:33:32 -0400, Ed Jabbour wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Friday 15 May 2009 13:34:45 Florian Kulzer wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > On Thu,14.May.09, 20:57:29, Ed Jabbour wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > I can't get to a console from X.  I.e., alt-ctrl-f1,
> > > > > > > > > > > > 2  get me only a black screen with no prompt. 
> > > > > > > > > > > > The same thing happens if I try "console login" from
> > > > > > > > > > > > kdm.  inittab is the default. Graphics driver NVidia
> > > > > > > > > > > > 173.14.09.  Any hints, pointers, appreciated.
>
> [...]
>
> > > Do you see any framebuffer devices at all?
> > >
> > > $ ls -l /dev/fb*
> > > crw-rw 1 root video 29, 0 2009-05-16 19:43 /dev/fb0
> >
> > Nope.  No fb anything in /dev.

[snip]

> Unfortunately, I am not sure what to think of the missing fb device, so
> can only make some very general suggestions:

[snip]
>
> - Check the nvidia documentation for hints about this kind of problem; I
>   have not used the nvidia driver in more than two years, so I might be
>   missing something really obvious about how VT switching is supposed to
>   work now.

Solved!  I  set to 0 the NVreg_UseVBios nvidia kernel module parameter; the 
default is 1.  I read that this problem has been solved with the 180.51 
driver.  I'll try that one of these days, but if it ain't broke . . . . 

Thanks a lot for your help in all this.


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Re: No console from X

2009-05-17 Thread Joel Roth
On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 11:45:35PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 10:26:00 -1000, Joel Roth wrote:
> > On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 08:28:42PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> > > On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 20:26:50 -1000, Joel Roth wrote:
> > > > On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 07:19:49PM -1000, Joel Roth wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > Hey, neither can I. I've got pretty much the same symptoms.
> > > > > I'll be grateful for any eyeballs/suggestions.
> > > > 
> > > > I'm running a recent Toshiba laptop. The black screen chvt 1
> > > > problem hits when I use an external monitor. 
> > > > 
> > > > With the built-in monitor the switching occurs just fine.
> > > 
> > > Does the laptop have Fn keys for changing the display brightness and
> > > turning the external output on/off? Do they make any difference for the
> > > blank screen?
> > 
> > These keys don't work under my current kernel version/drivers. 
> 
> This might be another symptom of the same problem.
> 
> > I haven't visited this issue lately. It would be great to 
> > get them working (along with suspend and the wifi driver
> > installed.)
> > 
> > FWIW it's a Toshiba L305D-S5890.
> > 
> > I get an external monitor to work by booting with the cable 
> > plugged into my RGB connector. 
> 
> That suggests to me that some problem with recognizing the monitor as
> connected during the VT switch might be responsible for your issue. (I
> have no experience with Radeon HD chipsets, so I am really only guessing
> here.)
> 
> > > You could try "modprobe -v radeonfb". (As far as I can tell, this module
> > > does not support your card, so this is a rather long shot.)
> > 
> > I do get a result from that.
> > 
> > $ sudo modprobe -v radeonfb
> > insmod /lib/modules/2.6.26-1-686/kernel/drivers/i2c/algos/i2c-algo-bit.ko 
> > insmod /lib/modules/2.6.26-1-686/kernel/drivers/video/fb_ddc.ko 
> > insmod /lib/modules/2.6.26-1-686/kernel/drivers/video/aty/radeonfb.ko 
> > 
> > lsmod | grep radeon
> > 
> > radeonfb   91680  0 
> > fb_ddc  2080  1 radeonfb
> > i2c_algo_bit5188  1 radeonfb
> > i2c_core   19828  4 radeonfb,fb_ddc,i2c_algo_bit,i2c_piix4
> 
> But still no luck with switching to the console, I assume?

I still have to test this with an external monitor.

> > Does this mean I am changing video drivers on the fly?
> 
> Not really, you just loaded another module that could provide a driver
> for a framebuffer device. (This is different from the Xorg driver module
> for your card.)
> 
> It would be interesting to know if you get a /dev/fb? device once
> radeonfb is loaded. (I am not too optimistic, though.) 

Nope.
 
> > > Did you ever try using the "radeonhd" driver for xorg?
> > 
> > No, not yet. Would that be using 'dbkg-reconfigure xserver-org' ??
> 
> You can just edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf, replace "radeon" or "ati"
> with "radeonhd" and restart X. (The package xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd
> has to be installed.)

I just updated many xorg packages to get xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd

Look how simple xorg.conf has become!!

And not obvious where to configure for radeonhd.

# xorg.conf (X.Org X Window System server configuration file)
#
# This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using
# values from the debconf database.
#
# Edit this file with caution, and see the xorg.conf manual page.
# (Type "man xorg.conf" at the shell prompt.)
#
# This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades *only*
# if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg
# package.
#
# If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated
# again, run the following command:
#   sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg

Section "Device"
Identifier  "Configured Video Device"
EndSection
 
> Mind you, I do not know how stable the current version of radeonhd is;
> it is still a relatively new driver.

I'm willing to give it a go, if I can figure out how to tell
X11 that's the driver I want.

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make gnus reply correctly to debian lists

2009-05-17 Thread Tiago Saboga
I am moving from mutt to gnus, and I am missing a description of how to
make gnus behave "the right way" when dealing with debian lists. I use
fetchmail to get messages from my ISP, and a strange combination of
procmail and maildrop to filter them into mboxes, where each mailing
list has its own inbox. Gnus takes messages there and stores them in its
nnml backend. Now I would like gnus to know that whenever I reply to any
debian list, it is to send my reply only to the list, except if
explicitly told otherwise (it should also do the right thing if it finds
mail-followup-to and reply-to headers, and I don't even know what is the
right thing in that case).

I am certain that I can find a way to solve that problem, but I am sure
I am not the first to face it, and I would rather not duplicate work ;)

Tiago.


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Re: Using terminal output as input

2009-05-17 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In <880dece00905170250o422275adv83039d8ece728...@mail.gmail.com>, Dotan 
Cohen wrote:
>2009/5/14 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. :
>> These are particularly useful when combined with the "UNIX filter
>> commands" tr, grep, sed, cut, paste, and awk plus the tee command.
>
>I am baffled that one must type in the output to commands. For
>instance, the sysadmin may need to use the existing DHCP IP address
>for one reason or another. After running ifconfig, where the address
>is stated, why must he type it in? I'm not looking for copy-paste in
>the GUI sense, but some sort of this-to-there method for carrying
>small bits of data seems so useful, basic, and would help prevent
>typos.

Something like this?:
$ /sbin/ifconfig wlan0 | awk -F'[: ]*' '/inet[^6]/ { print $4 }'
10.0.0.101

awk, sed, grep, etc. are how you filter the output down to exactly what you 
need via pipes.  Pipes or variables are how to get information into the 
commands that could use it as input.

Your this-is-there method is the use of awk, grep, sed, etc.
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Re: Using terminal output as input

2009-05-17 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In <4a0ffa4a.5040...@kalinowski.com.br>, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:
>(or `command`, though this is a bashism)

Not a bash-ism.  It is the older method and still required in SUS-conformant 
shells.  However, it doesn't nest well and has other issues that are 
required not to affect $().
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Re: install proprietary nvidia driver without xorg.conf?

2009-05-17 Thread Matthew Moore
On Sunday May 17 2009 3:56:23 pm Michael M. Moore wrote:
> It says for Lenny you have to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf to load "glx"
> module and remove "dri" or "GLCore" modules, under the 
"Module" section;
> and that you need to change the driver (from "nv" to "nvidia") 
under the
> "Device" section.

With the current xorg, you do not need a xorg.conf file. If you do 
have a xorg.conf file, it takes the settings from there and then does 
whatever else needs to be done by using HAL. For example, to just 
use the proprietary driver and not change anything else that X does 
via HAL, the xorg.conf should _only_ contain

Section "Device"
Identifier "NVIDIA_Device"
Driver "nvidia"
EndSection

This is the setup that I am running, and everything is working fine. 
Running the nvidia xconfig utility produces a _complete_ xorg.conf 
file, which I wanted to avoid using.

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Problem with pure-ftpd

2009-05-17 Thread William Lebel
Hi all!

I got a problem, When i do /etc/init.d/pure-ftpd start, It does nothing... I
installed the package but there is nothing going up

I am on debian Lenny 5.0.1

Thanks for help
Greatman


Re: perl package environment problems

2009-05-17 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In , Jude DaShiell 
wrote:
>perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
>perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
> LANGUAGE = (unset),
> LC_ALL = (unset),
> LANG = ""en_US.UTF-8""

This shows that you LANG variable actually contains double-quote characters.

Check /etc/environment.  It isn't read by a shell, so it does not do quote-
removal.  Remove any double- or single-quotes around the values in the file.
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I'm at my wit's end (was:Re: Help with Flash)

2009-05-17 Thread Marc Shapiro

thveillon.debian wrote:

Marc Shapiro wrote:

Mark Allums wrote:

Marc Shapiro wrote:

Mark Allums wrote:

flashplugin-nonfree in Sid is working again.  I don't think it has
any other Sid dependencies.  Remember, if your internet connection
is not always-on, that it is just an installer, and it still needs
to download the player from Adobe.

I've already installed Flash directly from the Adobe site, so the
installer won't do anything for me.  I thought that, with true
Mozilla and Flash direct from Adobe, that Flash should work.  I
shouldn't need anything else.  Unfortunately, it does not.  Does
anyone else have Flash working with Mozilla Firefox (not Iceweasel)?


Try uninstalling everything flash-related, even swfdec, and so forth,
then installing Sid's flashplugin-nonfree.

However, you may need to copy the plugin .so manually into the Firefox
plugin directory.  If Iceweasel is installed, you can find it there.

Installing the Adobe way has never worked for me.  I have always
needed the Debian way.

All the installer does is download and unpack the file from adobe and
copy it to the appropriate directories.  I already have the new
libflashplayer.so and I have it in /usr/local/lib/firefox/plugins/
Firefox recognizes that it is installed and starts to load the flash
video.  Then it hangs.  Using the installer from Sid will simply
download another copy of the file and place it in a directory that is
incorrect for me, so that I can copy it to where it already is.  I have
already downloaded the .deb for Ubuntu from the Adobe site, thinking
that maybe there was a problem with the .tar.gz file, but I get the same
results.  I don't see where having the Sid installer download the same
..tar.gz file that I already have is going to make a difference.


Hi,

maybe have a look at /etc/alternatives to see if you have a link that
can confuse things, and look at flashplayer-mozilla dependencies to see
if you're missing something.


I don't see anything there.

Here is what I have tried since my last post:

I have downloaded the adobe flashplayer archives for all of V10 and V9.
I installed, one at a time, V10_22_87, V10_15_3, V10_12_36 - none worked
I installed V9_115, which was what I originally had - it didn't work
I copied back my saved directory with firefox 3.05 - same results

By this point, I was back to running the same version of firefox and 
flashplayer that had been working together prior to trying to upgrade 
flashplayer.  I would have expected this to at least get me back to 
where I was.  No such luck.


So I decided to try to go with straight up Debian and I installed 
Iceweasel and flashplayer-mozilla.  This also yielded the same results. 
 The YouTube video starts to load, displaying the initial frame, and 
then it hangs, taking Iceweasel with it.  All I can do at this point is 
destroy the window and then kill any leftover processes.


I don't know what to do at this point.  I am about to do the Winblows 
thing and reinstall in a spare set of partitions.  At least I have the 
space.  Does anyone have any other suggestions before I have to go to 
this extreme?


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Re: bug #350639

2009-05-17 Thread Freddy Freeloader

Javier Barroso wrote:

Hi,
On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 9:31 PM, Freddy Freeloader  wrote:
  

I'd like to point this bug out as it has been around now for 3 1/2 months
with no official resolution.  What's worse is that this bug was caused by
the Debian gnome-volume-manager maintainer.  Nobody else is responsible for
it.  He disabled automount when he compiled the gnome-volume-manager
package.


It seems resolved in unstable,
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=525183

I think maintainer forgot about dup (linking) these bugs.

They are working in transition to gnome 2.26, so we should have patient.
  
Ummm  It took me approximately 5 minutes to download the source, 
make the changes in debian-rules, and compile a new package.  I can 
count on one hand the number of Debian package I have created, so, it 
can't take any longer for an experienced developer to do the same thing  
than it did for me.


I also think that waiting 3 1/2 months for a 5 minute fix before 
complaining is being patient. 

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Re: bug #350639

2009-05-17 Thread Freddy Freeloader

Matteo Riva wrote:

On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 9:58 PM, Javier Barroso  wrote:

  

It seems resolved in unstable,
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=525183



I have rebuilt the package from source as suggested by a user in that
bug report, but now the update manager flags gnome-volume-manager as
needing an update.  How can I avoid this?
  
You might try using apt-pinning.  I'm not sure if it will work though as 
they are both the same version.  I just use the auto-update wizard and 
uncheck that box before allowing it to proceed. 


Thanks.


  



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Re: make gnus reply correctly to debian lists

2009-05-17 Thread Paul Johnson
> make gnus behave "the right way" when dealing with debian lists. I use
> fetchmail to get messages from my ISP, and a strange combination of
> procmail and maildrop to filter them into mboxes, where each mailing
> list has its own inbox. Gnus takes messages there and stores them in it=
s
> nnml backend. Now I would like gnus to know that whenever I reply to an=
y
> debian list, it is to send my reply only to the list, except if
> explicitly told otherwise (it should also do the right thing if it find=
s
> mail-followup-to and reply-to headers, and I don't even know what is th=
e
> right thing in that case).
>=20
> I am certain that I can find a way to solve that problem, but I am sure=


I believe you want to "followup" and not "reply," in that case.  Or use
gnus to read the list on gmane instead.



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Re: I'm at my wit's end (was:Re: Help with Flash)

2009-05-17 Thread Ken L. Klaser
On Sun, 2009-05-17 at 19:39 -0700, Marc Shapiro wrote:
> thveillon.debian wrote:
> > Marc Shapiro wrote:
> >> Mark Allums wrote:
> >>> Marc Shapiro wrote:
>  Mark Allums wrote:
> > flashplugin-nonfree in Sid is working again.  I don't think it has
> > any other Sid dependencies.  Remember, if your internet connection
> > is not always-on, that it is just an installer, and it still needs
> > to download the player from Adobe.
>  I've already installed Flash directly from the Adobe site, so the
>  installer won't do anything for me.  I thought that, with true
>  Mozilla and Flash direct from Adobe, that Flash should work.  I
>  shouldn't need anything else.  Unfortunately, it does not.  Does
>  anyone else have Flash working with Mozilla Firefox (not Iceweasel)?
> 
> >>> Try uninstalling everything flash-related, even swfdec, and so forth,
> >>> then installing Sid's flashplugin-nonfree.
> >>>
> >>> However, you may need to copy the plugin .so manually into the Firefox
> >>> plugin directory.  If Iceweasel is installed, you can find it there.
> >>>
> >>> Installing the Adobe way has never worked for me.  I have always
> >>> needed the Debian way.
> >> All the installer does is download and unpack the file from adobe and
> >> copy it to the appropriate directories.  I already have the new
> >> libflashplayer.so and I have it in /usr/local/lib/firefox/plugins/
> >> Firefox recognizes that it is installed and starts to load the flash
> >> video.  Then it hangs.  Using the installer from Sid will simply
> >> download another copy of the file and place it in a directory that is
> >> incorrect for me, so that I can copy it to where it already is.  I have
> >> already downloaded the .deb for Ubuntu from the Adobe site, thinking
> >> that maybe there was a problem with the .tar.gz file, but I get the same
> >> results.  I don't see where having the Sid installer download the same
> >> ..tar.gz file that I already have is going to make a difference.
> >>
> > Hi,
> > 
> > maybe have a look at /etc/alternatives to see if you have a link that
> > can confuse things, and look at flashplayer-mozilla dependencies to see
> > if you're missing something.
> 
> I don't see anything there.
> 
> Here is what I have tried since my last post:
> 
> I have downloaded the adobe flashplayer archives for all of V10 and V9.
> I installed, one at a time, V10_22_87, V10_15_3, V10_12_36 - none worked
> I installed V9_115, which was what I originally had - it didn't work
> I copied back my saved directory with firefox 3.05 - same results
> 
> By this point, I was back to running the same version of firefox and 
> flashplayer that had been working together prior to trying to upgrade 
> flashplayer.  I would have expected this to at least get me back to 
> where I was.  No such luck.
> 
> So I decided to try to go with straight up Debian and I installed 
> Iceweasel and flashplayer-mozilla.  This also yielded the same results. 
>   The YouTube video starts to load, displaying the initial frame, and 
> then it hangs, taking Iceweasel with it.  All I can do at this point is 
> destroy the window and then kill any leftover processes.
> 
> I don't know what to do at this point.  I am about to do the Winblows 
> thing and reinstall in a spare set of partitions.  At least I have the 
> space.  Does anyone have any other suggestions before I have to go to 
> this extreme?

Hi,

The Youtube symptoms you describe I also experienced on 32-bit Lenny and
Iceweasel precisely as you explained them. I believe I finally tracked
it down to flashplugin-nonfree and flashplayer-mozilla.  I removed those
and it seemed to clear up the problem. 

The Adobe 10 flash install has libflashplayer.so
in /usr/lib/adobe-flashplugin/

It still seems to be working on Squeeze.

Good luck,
Ken


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Re: wget file name is too long

2009-05-17 Thread sanju121


I’ve been using the soft at www.pathtoolong.com that resolves the long 
http://www.pathtoolong.com filename & path issue  and deletes locked files. 
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Re: I'm at my wit's end

2009-05-17 Thread Mark Allums

Ken L. Klaser wrote:

On Sun, 2009-05-17 at 19:39 -0700, Marc Shapiro wrote:

thveillon.debian wrote:

Marc Shapiro wrote:

Mark Allums wrote:

Marc Shapiro wrote:

Mark Allums wrote:

flashplugin-nonfree in Sid is working again.  I don't think it has
any other Sid dependencies.  Remember, if your internet connection
is not always-on, that it is just an installer, and it still needs
to download the player from Adobe.

I've already installed Flash directly from the Adobe site, so the
installer won't do anything for me.  I thought that, with true
Mozilla and Flash direct from Adobe, that Flash should work.  I
shouldn't need anything else.  Unfortunately, it does not.  Does
anyone else have Flash working with Mozilla Firefox (not Iceweasel)?


Try uninstalling everything flash-related, even swfdec, and so forth,
then installing Sid's flashplugin-nonfree.

However, you may need to copy the plugin .so manually into the Firefox
plugin directory.  If Iceweasel is installed, you can find it there.

Installing the Adobe way has never worked for me.  I have always
needed the Debian way.

All the installer does is download and unpack the file from adobe and
copy it to the appropriate directories.  I already have the new
libflashplayer.so and I have it in /usr/local/lib/firefox/plugins/
Firefox recognizes that it is installed and starts to load the flash
video.  Then it hangs.  Using the installer from Sid will simply
download another copy of the file and place it in a directory that is
incorrect for me, so that I can copy it to where it already is.  I have
already downloaded the .deb for Ubuntu from the Adobe site, thinking
that maybe there was a problem with the .tar.gz file, but I get the same
results.  I don't see where having the Sid installer download the same
..tar.gz file that I already have is going to make a difference.


Hi,

maybe have a look at /etc/alternatives to see if you have a link that
can confuse things, and look at flashplayer-mozilla dependencies to see
if you're missing something.

I don't see anything there.

Here is what I have tried since my last post:

I have downloaded the adobe flashplayer archives for all of V10 and V9.
I installed, one at a time, V10_22_87, V10_15_3, V10_12_36 - none worked
I installed V9_115, which was what I originally had - it didn't work
I copied back my saved directory with firefox 3.05 - same results

By this point, I was back to running the same version of firefox and 
flashplayer that had been working together prior to trying to upgrade 
flashplayer.  I would have expected this to at least get me back to 
where I was.  No such luck.


So I decided to try to go with straight up Debian and I installed 
Iceweasel and flashplayer-mozilla.  This also yielded the same results. 
  The YouTube video starts to load, displaying the initial frame, and 
then it hangs, taking Iceweasel with it.  All I can do at this point is 
destroy the window and then kill any leftover processes.


I don't know what to do at this point.  I am about to do the Winblows 
thing and reinstall in a spare set of partitions.  At least I have the 
space.  Does anyone have any other suggestions before I have to go to 
this extreme?


Hi,

The Youtube symptoms you describe I also experienced on 32-bit Lenny and
Iceweasel precisely as you explained them. I believe I finally tracked
it down to flashplugin-nonfree and flashplayer-mozilla.  I removed those
and it seemed to clear up the problem. 


The Adobe 10 flash install has libflashplayer.so
in /usr/lib/adobe-flashplugin/

It still seems to be working on Squeeze.



I had that problem, and put up with it for quite awhile.  I finally came 
to the conclusion that it was the whole Debian ecosystem that was messed up.


I finally went through with fire and sword, doing complete uninstalls of 
lots of things, anything related to Iceweasel or flash, and lots of 
other things, too.  (I was too lazy to do detective work and try to 
pinpoint the precise cause.  And I felt a purge was overdue, anyway.)


Without reinstalling Debian completely, something worked.  I installed 
flash from Sid, and it worked.  But I was merciless.  All of the cruft 
had to go.


Perhaps part of the problem was there were too many inconsistencies.

For what it's worth,

Mark Allums











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Re: swapfile

2009-05-17 Thread steef

Tiago Saboga wrote:

steef  writes:

  

hi list,

starting up lenny, my machine hanged on 'activating swapfile swap' (or
something like that)
starting up my machine a second and third time did not give any
trouble at all.

is there a generally known reason for a computerstart hanging on
activating a swapfile?
in all those years i am using debian this never happened before.



It's happening too, exactly the same. That's just one machine; several
others are running just fine with lenny.

Tiago Saboga.


  
mm... guess it's a hardware problem: the hd maybe as roger 
suggested?? and, indeed, how trustworthy is smartmontools (smartctl -H 
/dev/hdx) ?


steef

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Re: make gnus reply correctly to debian lists

2009-05-17 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2009-05-18 02:25 +0200, Tiago Saboga wrote:

> I am moving from mutt to gnus, and I am missing a description of how to
> make gnus behave "the right way" when dealing with debian lists. I use
> fetchmail to get messages from my ISP, and a strange combination of
> procmail and maildrop to filter them into mboxes, where each mailing
> list has its own inbox. Gnus takes messages there and stores them in its
> nnml backend. Now I would like gnus to know that whenever I reply to any
> debian list, it is to send my reply only to the list, except if
> explicitly told otherwise (it should also do the right thing if it finds
> mail-followup-to and reply-to headers, and I don't even know what is the
> right thing in that case).

You can achieve this using group parameters, e.g. I have the following
parameters for this list:

((to-address . "debian-user@lists.debian.org")
 (to-list . "debian-user@lists.debian.org")
 (subscribed . t))

This ensures that follow-ups and new posts go the list and
Mail-Followup-To is set.  See (Info "(gnus) Group Parameters") for more
information.  Note that you should reply with follow-up (bound to "F")
and not reply-all (bound to "S W") if you want to reply to the list
only.

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Re: make gnus reply correctly to debian lists

2009-05-17 Thread Nicolas KOWALSKI
Tiago Saboga  writes:

> I am moving from mutt to gnus, and I am missing a description of how to
> make gnus behave "the right way" when dealing with debian lists. I use
> fetchmail to get messages from my ISP, and a strange combination of
> procmail and maildrop to filter them into mboxes, where each mailing
> list has its own inbox. Gnus takes messages there and stores them in its
> nnml backend. Now I would like gnus to know that whenever I reply to any
> debian list, it is to send my reply only to the list, except if
> explicitly told otherwise (it should also do the right thing if it finds
> mail-followup-to and reply-to headers, and I don't even know what is the
> right thing in that case).

Yes, this is documented in the group parameters manual, about the
'to-address' parameter:

http://www.gnus.org/manual/gnus_28.html#SEC28


For example, I have in my ~/.gnus:

(setq 

 ;; 
 ;; Define some parameters, on the group name basis.
 ;;
 gnus-parameters
 '(

   ("^nnimap:list.debian-french" 
(to-address . "debian-user-fre...@lists.debian.org")
)
   
   ("^nnimap:list.debian" 
(to-address . "debian-user@lists.debian.org")
)

   ("^nnimap:list.gnus"
(to-address . "info-gnus-engl...@gnu.org")
)
  )
 )


When replying to your post, I used 'F' (followup), and Gnus used the
debian-user@lists.debian.org address instead of your own mail address
in the To: field.

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Re: What is the preferred way to install packages from testing/unstable in stable?

2009-05-17 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sun,17.May.09, 14:06:47, Michael M. Moore wrote:
 
> I use a pretty conservative pinning, more conservative than what is
> given on the wiki.  Mine is taken from Martin Krafft's book "The Debian
> System," recently recommended on this list:
> 
> mcu...@drifter:~$ cat /etc/apt/apt.conf
> APT::Default-Release "stable";
> APT::Cache-Limit 33554432;
> 
> mcu...@drifter:~$ cat /etc/apt/preferences 
> Package: *
> Pin: release a=stable
> Pin-Priority: 900

The "Default-Release" option in apt.conf will set stable's priority to 
990, why are you changing it again to 900?

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Re: What is the preferred way to install packages from testing/unstable in stable?

2009-05-17 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Andrei Popescu  [2009.05.18.0847 +0200]:
> The "Default-Release" option in apt.conf will set stable's
> priority to 990, why are you changing it again to 900?

Two stitches are better than one? ;)

In general, I'd say to prefer /etc/apt/preferences over apt.conf,
unless you really just need to pin stable as in the above. If you do
want more flexibility, then use apt_preferences and comment the
apt.conf entry alongside a little note for later reference.

By the way, even though one can mix testing and unstable, I suggest
to avoid that. http://backports.org contains packages backported
from testing and compiled for the stable distribution, which
integrate better with the system and are well supported (though
unofficial).

It's also rather easy to create backports yourself, using a chroot
build environment. However, then you'll have to worry about security
updates yourself.

-- 
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"if they can get you asking the wrong questions,
 they don't have to worry about answers."
 -- thomas pynchon


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