Re: Tab in Java

[Dotan Cohen]

There is now an English-language demo of the Java applet, but it takes
some work to get to. First, go to this URL:
http://mathnet.math.technion.ac.il/
Then click on the text "English demo of MathNet". To log in use these
credentials:
Enter "demo" in the top input box.
Enter "d" in the bottom input box.
Press the button below (which is marked "הכנס").
Now, there will be a vertical menu on the left. Choose the second
item, which is marked "שיעורי הכנה". The English-language tutorial is
named "The Riemann Integral". Clicking this will open the Java
tutorial. Note that the ability to tab between fields first appears in
this tutorial on the seventh page, so you will need to be patient!

I do not think that they could have made this harder to get to!

Dotan Cohen

http://what-is-what.com
http://gibberish.co.il

openoffice java problem in sid

[niclas w]

I can't set java runtime environment in openoffice 2.4.0 
(openoffice.org-core 1:2.4.0-6)

Tools >> Options >> Openoffice.org  >> Java

When I set jre to Sun Microsystems 1.6.0_06 it seems to work but when I 
reopen the window it's not set. Niether does it tell me to restart oo.

Also I can't change the two found jre's neither add more jre's

Is this a debian or oo problem?

Debian sid 2.6.24-1-amd64

/N


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Re: Tab in Java

[Adam Hardy]

Dotan Cohen on 20/05/08 10:17, wrote:

There is now an English-language demo of the Java applet, but it takes
some work to get to. First, go to this URL:
http://mathnet.math.technion.ac.il/
Then click on the text "English demo of MathNet". To log in use these
credentials:
Enter "demo" in the top input box.
Enter "d" in the bottom input box.
Press the button below (which is marked "הכנס").
Now, there will be a vertical menu on the left. Choose the second
item, which is marked "שיעורי הכנה". The English-language tutorial is
named "The Riemann Integral". Clicking this will open the Java
tutorial. Note that the ability to tab between fields first appears in
this tutorial on the seventh page, so you will need to be patient!

I do not think that they could have made this harder to get to!


Did you notice that you can actually tab between the fields of the login dialog?


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Re: problems installing openoffice.org in etch

[Marcelo Chiapparini]

Samuel Bächler wrote:
Here it is, no error messages: 

Now, what lead to the solution?

s.


Well, I am thinking about:

a) cry
b) use a hammer
c) go back to the 32 bit architecture as soon as possible. Many problems 
with the amd64 port, for me at last...


M.

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Re: Anti-gaming Behaviour of Keyboard Driver

[JoseC . Rodriguez]

On May 19, 12:40 pm, "Dmitryi & Elf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Actually the problem is more straightforward. Quake locks key input when
> [Control] is pressed. That key is bound to fire, so until the fire action
> is released, the game won't recognise any new keypresses. Looks like
> scancodes get modified with [Control], and the game can't recognise them
> as valid bindings.
>
> A different key bound to +attack fixes it, but still, this is a bug in the
> three Quake ports installed.

Uhm...in my case I don't think it's the same issue. For some reason I
can't strafe backwards; this is, the combination of backpedal+strafe
works, but it doesn't get any more input, so I can't jump. I thought
it was a limitation of my keyboard...


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strange chars in xterm

[michael]

If I run
 xterm -e ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
or
 gnome-terminal -x ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
from my Debian box "rat", then I get some strange chars in the manual
pages on the 'hpc' machine, eg for `man bash` the pipe char "|" comes
out as an "a" with a hat (^) above it (see attached screenshot) but I
can't see why this is happening.

If I, from a gnome-terminal just run
  ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
then all is fine. And if I login to hpc from any other box, or it seems
login to any other box from "rat" then the chars appear as normal, as
far as I can see from a quick comparison.

I've no .Xresource nor .Xdefault in my home directory on "rat"

Here's the actual process list for how `man bash` is handled on
"hpc" (which is, err, interesting):

0 S mccssmb2 3 22137  0  76   0 -   781 wait   11:54 pts/26
00:00:00 man bash

0 S mccssmb2 6 3  0  76   0 -   807 wait   11:54 pts/26
00:00:00 sh -c (cd /usr/share/man && (echo ".pl
1100i"; /usr/bin/gunzip -c '/usr/share/man/man1/bash.1.gz'; echo
".\\\""; echo ".pl \n(nlu+10") | /usr/bin/gtbl | nroff --legacy
ISO-8859-1 -man -rLL=77n -rLT=77n 2>/dev/null | /usr/bin/less
-iRs)

1 S mccssmb2 7 6  0  75   0 -   807 wait   11:54 pts/26
00:00:00 sh -c (cd /usr/share/man && (echo ".pl
1100i"; /usr/bin/gunzip -c '/usr/share/man/man1/bash.1.gz'; echo
".\\\""; echo ".pl \n(nlu+10") | /usr/bin/gtbl | nroff --legacy
ISO-8859-1 -man -rLL=77n -rLT=77n 2>/dev/null | /usr/bin/less
-iRs)

0 S mccssmb2 22232 7  0  76   0 -88 read_c 11:54 pts/26
00:00:00 /usr/bin/less -iRs


Any clues anybody?

Thanks, Michael


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strange chars in remote ssh session

[michael]

If I run
 xterm -e ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
or
 gnome-terminal -x ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
from my Debian box "rat", then I get some strange chars in the manual
pages on the 'hpc' machine, eg for `man bash` the pipe char "|" comes
out as an "a" with a hat (^) above it (see attached screenshot) but I
can't see why this is happening.

If I, from a gnome-terminal just run
  ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
then all is fine. And if I login to hpc from any other box, or it seems
login to any other box from "rat" then the chars appear as normal, as
far as I can see from a quick comparison.

I've no .Xresource nor .Xdefault in my home directory on "rat"

Here's the actual process list for how `man bash` is handled on
"hpc" (which is, err, interesting):

0 S mccssmb2 3 22137  0  76   0 -   781 wait   11:54 pts/26
00:00:00 man bash

0 S mccssmb2 6 3  0  76   0 -   807 wait   11:54 pts/26
00:00:00 sh -c (cd /usr/share/man && (echo ".pl
1100i"; /usr/bin/gunzip -c '/usr/share/man/man1/bash.1.gz'; echo
".\\\""; echo ".pl \n(nlu+10") | /usr/bin/gtbl | nroff --legacy
ISO-8859-1 -man -rLL=77n -rLT=77n 2>/dev/null | /usr/bin/less
-iRs)

1 S mccssmb2 7 6  0  75   0 -   807 wait   11:54 pts/26
00:00:00 sh -c (cd /usr/share/man && (echo ".pl
1100i"; /usr/bin/gunzip -c '/usr/share/man/man1/bash.1.gz'; echo
".\\\""; echo ".pl \n(nlu+10") | /usr/bin/gtbl | nroff --legacy
ISO-8859-1 -man -rLL=77n -rLT=77n 2>/dev/null | /usr/bin/less
-iRs)

0 S mccssmb2 22232 7  0  76   0 -88 read_c 11:54 pts/26
00:00:00 /usr/bin/less -iRs


Any clues anybody?

Thanks, Michael


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Re: problems installing openoffice.org in etch

[Florian Kulzer]

On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 17:56:24 -0300, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:
> Florian Kulzer wrote:
>> On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 16:38:13 -0300, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:
>>> Florian Kulzer wrote:
 On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 15:01:49 -0300, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:
> Florian Kulzer wrote:
>> On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 14:02:44 -0300, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:
>>
>> [...]
>>
>>> Thank you very much for the advice. However, I am still 
>>> having the same  problem: 'aptitude remove --purge ' 
>>> does not fix the problem.  The problem with the unmet 
>>> dependencies
>>>
>>> libstlport4.6c2
>>> libservlet2.3-java
>>> libxt-java
>>> libmdbtools
>>> libportaudio0

[...]

>>> Hi! follows a copy of my /etc/apt/sources.list file. Just in case, I 
>>> am  using the amd64 port of etch...
>>>
>>> deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian etch main contrib non-free
>>
>> That should work; this mirror has the .deb file right here:
>> http://http.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/s/stlport4.6/libstlport4.6c2_4.6.2-3_amd64.deb
>>
>> What happens if you run "aptitude update"? Are there any error messages?
>>
>
> Here it is, no error messages:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo aptitude update

[ lines not pertaining to http.us.debian.org removed ]

> Get:1 http://http.us.debian.org etch Release.gpg [378B]
> Hit http://http.us.debian.org etch Release
> Ign http://http.us.debian.org etch/main Packages/DiffIndex
> Ign http://http.us.debian.org etch/contrib Packages/DiffIndex
> Ign http://http.us.debian.org etch/non-free Packages/DiffIndex
> Hit http://http.us.debian.org etch/main Packages
> Hit http://http.us.debian.org etch/contrib Packages
> Hit http://http.us.debian.org etch/non-free Packages

That does look OK indeed. Do you now see the package available with
"apt-cache policy libstlport4.6c2"?

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Re: acpi kernel modules - obsolete or not?

[Bill]

On Mon, 2008-19-05 at 21:55 -0500, Mark Allums wrote:
> ACPI will be replaced, but it's APM (and Plug-and-Play) that is 
> deprecated in favor of ACPI.  It is widely needed by billions of 
> motherboards, and won't be eliminated entirely anytime soon. 

Well have a look at the 2.6.25 documentation in something like 
menuconfig. It clearly states that these particular features are 
deprecated. Now. 

b.


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Re: strange chars in xterm

[Francis Earl]

What version of Debian is this? Why aren't you using UTF8?

Try enabled UTF8 and see if the characters are still strange.

On Tuesday 20 May 2008 4:01:49 michael wrote:
> If I run
>  xterm -e ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> or
>  gnome-terminal -x ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> from my Debian box "rat", then I get some strange chars in the manual
> pages on the 'hpc' machine, eg for `man bash` the pipe char "|" comes
> out as an "a" with a hat (^) above it (see attached screenshot) but I
> can't see why this is happening.
>
> If I, from a gnome-terminal just run
>   ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> then all is fine. And if I login to hpc from any other box, or it seems
> login to any other box from "rat" then the chars appear as normal, as
> far as I can see from a quick comparison.
>
> I've no .Xresource nor .Xdefault in my home directory on "rat"
>
> Here's the actual process list for how `man bash` is handled on
> "hpc" (which is, err, interesting):
>
> 0 S mccssmb2 3 22137  0  76   0 -   781 wait   11:54 pts/26
> 00:00:00 man bash
>
> 0 S mccssmb2 6 3  0  76   0 -   807 wait   11:54 pts/26
> 00:00:00 sh -c (cd /usr/share/man && (echo ".pl
> 1100i"; /usr/bin/gunzip -c '/usr/share/man/man1/bash.1.gz'; echo
> ".\\\""; echo ".pl \n(nlu+10") | /usr/bin/gtbl | nroff --legacy
> ISO-8859-1 -man -rLL=77n -rLT=77n 2>/dev/null | /usr/bin/less
> -iRs)
>
> 1 S mccssmb2 7 6  0  75   0 -   807 wait   11:54 pts/26
> 00:00:00 sh -c (cd /usr/share/man && (echo ".pl
> 1100i"; /usr/bin/gunzip -c '/usr/share/man/man1/bash.1.gz'; echo
> ".\\\""; echo ".pl \n(nlu+10") | /usr/bin/gtbl | nroff --legacy
> ISO-8859-1 -man -rLL=77n -rLT=77n 2>/dev/null | /usr/bin/less
> -iRs)
>
> 0 S mccssmb2 22232 7  0  76   0 -88 read_c 11:54 pts/26
> 00:00:00 /usr/bin/less -iRs
>
>
> Any clues anybody?
>
> Thanks, Michael



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Re: [OT] FOSS Marketplace

[Samuel Bächler]

The idea which came to my mind some time ago was to establish a marketplace
where "geeks" meet "normal" users.


You invented the mailing list?
  

That' s not what I meant. By the term "normal" user I am thinking of
someone who sees some advantages of using a computer but does not
want to make his living out of it. Therefore that person maybe is willing
to spend some of his wage to the other person who loves computers and
therefore will solve tasks somewhat faster than others.
And one last point: Think as well of small companies as customers rather
than of yourself who of course is embedded in a network of friends who know
a lot about IT to.

Sam


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Re: strange chars in xterm (etc)

[michael]

On Tue, 2008-05-20 at 04:23 -0700, Francis Earl wrote:

> On Tuesday 20 May 2008 4:01:49 michael wrote:
> > If I run
> >  xterm -e ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > or
> >  gnome-terminal -x ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > from my Debian box "rat", then I get some strange chars in the manual
> > pages on the 'hpc' machine, eg for `man bash` the pipe char "|" comes
> > out as an "a" with a hat (^) above it (see attached screenshot) but I
> > can't see why this is happening.
> >
> > If I, from a gnome-terminal just run
> >   ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > then all is fine. And if I login to hpc from any other box, or it seems
> > login to any other box from "rat" then the chars appear as normal, as
> > far as I can see from a quick comparison.
> >
> > I've no .Xresource nor .Xdefault in my home directory on "rat"
> >
> > Here's the actual process list for how `man bash` is handled on
> > "hpc" (which is, err, interesting):
> >
> > 0 S mccssmb2 3 22137  0  76   0 -   781 wait   11:54 pts/26
> > 00:00:00 man bash
> >
> > 0 S mccssmb2 6 3  0  76   0 -   807 wait   11:54 pts/26
> > 00:00:00 sh -c (cd /usr/share/man && (echo ".pl
> > 1100i"; /usr/bin/gunzip -c '/usr/share/man/man1/bash.1.gz'; echo
> > ".\\\""; echo ".pl \n(nlu+10") | /usr/bin/gtbl | nroff --legacy
> > ISO-8859-1 -man -rLL=77n -rLT=77n 2>/dev/null | /usr/bin/less
> > -iRs)
> >
> > 1 S mccssmb2 7 6  0  75   0 -   807 wait   11:54 pts/26
> > 00:00:00 sh -c (cd /usr/share/man && (echo ".pl
> > 1100i"; /usr/bin/gunzip -c '/usr/share/man/man1/bash.1.gz'; echo
> > ".\\\""; echo ".pl \n(nlu+10") | /usr/bin/gtbl | nroff --legacy
> > ISO-8859-1 -man -rLL=77n -rLT=77n 2>/dev/null | /usr/bin/less
> > -iRs)
> >
> > 0 S mccssmb2 22232 7  0  76   0 -88 read_c 11:54 pts/26
> > 00:00:00 /usr/bin/less -iRs
> >
> >
> > Any clues anybody?
> >
> > Thanks, Michael
> 
> 

What version of Debian is this? Why aren't you using UTF8?
> 
> Try enabled UTF8 and see if the characters are still strange.
> 

Etch & locale was 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ locale
LANG=en_GB
LANGUAGE=en_GB:en_US:en_GB:en
LC_CTYPE="en_GB"
LC_NUMERIC="en_GB"
LC_TIME="en_GB"
LC_COLLATE="en_GB"
LC_MONETARY="en_GB"
LC_MESSAGES="en_GB"
LC_PAPER="en_GB"
LC_NAME="en_GB"
LC_ADDRESS="en_GB"
LC_TELEPHONE="en_GB"
LC_MEASUREMENT="en_GB"
LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_GB"
LC_ALL=

doing a 
  sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
and setting default to en_GB.UTF-8
then re-logging in seems to have solved this.

Not sure what initial problem is - doing 'man bash' on the local machine
didn't have any problems!




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Re: Setting Video Card

[Peter Kuma]

vvokong wrote:
>  "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" does not work, when i install lenny today.
> .
> This command only askes question for keyboard, and nothing for video card.
> 
> ...
>
> When I install lenny about one week ago, this command works well.
> What's wrong with it ?
> 

The bug was reported at
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=480883.

Peter Kuma


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Re: strange chars in xterm (etc)

[Francis Earl]

On Tuesday 20 May 2008 4:33:17 michael wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-05-20 at 04:23 -0700, Francis Earl wrote:
> > On Tuesday 20 May 2008 4:01:49 michael wrote:
> > > If I run
> > >  xterm -e ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > or
> > >  gnome-terminal -x ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > from my Debian box "rat", then I get some strange chars in the manual
> > > pages on the 'hpc' machine, eg for `man bash` the pipe char "|" comes
> > > out as an "a" with a hat (^) above it (see attached screenshot) but I
> > > can't see why this is happening.
> > >
> > > If I, from a gnome-terminal just run
> > >   ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > then all is fine. And if I login to hpc from any other box, or it seems
> > > login to any other box from "rat" then the chars appear as normal, as
> > > far as I can see from a quick comparison.
> > >
> > > I've no .Xresource nor .Xdefault in my home directory on "rat"
> > >
> > > Here's the actual process list for how `man bash` is handled on
> > > "hpc" (which is, err, interesting):
> > >
> > > 0 S mccssmb2 3 22137  0  76   0 -   781 wait   11:54 pts/26
> > > 00:00:00 man bash
> > >
> > > 0 S mccssmb2 6 3  0  76   0 -   807 wait   11:54 pts/26
> > > 00:00:00 sh -c (cd /usr/share/man && (echo ".pl
> > > 1100i"; /usr/bin/gunzip -c '/usr/share/man/man1/bash.1.gz';
> > > echo ".\\\""; echo ".pl \n(nlu+10") | /usr/bin/gtbl | nroff --legacy
> > > ISO-8859-1 -man -rLL=77n -rLT=77n 2>/dev/null | /usr/bin/less -iRs)
> > >
> > > 1 S mccssmb2 7 6  0  75   0 -   807 wait   11:54 pts/26
> > > 00:00:00 sh -c (cd /usr/share/man && (echo ".pl
> > > 1100i"; /usr/bin/gunzip -c '/usr/share/man/man1/bash.1.gz';
> > > echo ".\\\""; echo ".pl \n(nlu+10") | /usr/bin/gtbl | nroff --legacy
> > > ISO-8859-1 -man -rLL=77n -rLT=77n 2>/dev/null | /usr/bin/less -iRs)
> > >
> > > 0 S mccssmb2 22232 7  0  76   0 -88 read_c 11:54 pts/26
> > > 00:00:00 /usr/bin/less -iRs
> > >
> > >
> > > Any clues anybody?
> > >
> > > Thanks, Michael
>
> What version of Debian is this? Why aren't you using UTF8?
>
> > Try enabled UTF8 and see if the characters are still strange.
>
> Etch & locale was
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ locale
> LANG=en_GB
> LANGUAGE=en_GB:en_US:en_GB:en
> LC_CTYPE="en_GB"
> LC_NUMERIC="en_GB"
> LC_TIME="en_GB"
> LC_COLLATE="en_GB"
> LC_MONETARY="en_GB"
> LC_MESSAGES="en_GB"
> LC_PAPER="en_GB"
> LC_NAME="en_GB"
> LC_ADDRESS="en_GB"
> LC_TELEPHONE="en_GB"
> LC_MEASUREMENT="en_GB"
> LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_GB"
> LC_ALL=
>
> doing a
>   sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
> and setting default to en_GB.UTF-8
> then re-logging in seems to have solved this.
>
> Not sure what initial problem is - doing 'man bash' on the local machine
> didn't have any problems!

Etch didn't use UTF-8 afaik, so that was probably the issue  ;)


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Re: Setting Video Card

[Benjamin Schmidt]

Paul Cartwright wrote:

On Fri May 16 2008, Benjamin Schmidt wrote:

Before spending many hours trying to get a usable Xserver-configuration
(or other configs), I always used an live-cd like Sidux, Knoppix,
Kanotix or maybe Ubuntu (all Debian based). The distribution running the
best way, you can simply install on your harddisk or export the live-cd
X-configuration file.


I noticed when I ran the new Knoppix CD 5.3.1, that it had all the cool 
effects, that i DON'T have with my Ubuntu Hardy install.. if you are running 
a LIVE CD, how do you save teh xorg.conf ( or X-configuration) file???
I'm talking about my DELL XPS laptop, I think it has Intel graphics card.. my 
desktop has NVIDIA..




"that it had all the cool effects"
Don't what you exactly mean with cool effects. Is it the KDE desktop, 
the login-window or some 3d animations?


The simplest way of copying /etc/X11/xorg.conf is to copy it on a memory 
stick (when plugged in, you get automatically a window if it's content). 
This way copy is very easy. Otherwise you mount your local harddisk 
(there is maybe a symbol on the desktop) and copy it directly. If that 
doesn't work cause of permission restriction, use the root terminal.


Best regards,
Benjamin Schmidt


:: You get a quicker answer, when posting on the list. Additionally 
others can help or benefit.




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Re: Setting Video Card

[Paul Cartwright]

On Tue May 20 2008, Benjamin Schmidt wrote:
> "that it had all the cool effects"
> Don't what you exactly mean with cool effects. Is it the KDE desktop,
> the login-window or some 3d animations?

I am guessing it is the compiz 3D effects, wobbly windows, window shades, cube 
effect.. All I know is the live CD had effects that my normal windows install 
doesn't, and I'm not sure how to recreate or turn them them on.. in 
KDE/xfce.. 

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Registered Ubuntu User #12459


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Re: freezes in 2.6.25

[Hugo Vanwoerkom]

thveillon.debian wrote:

Hugo Vanwoerkom a écrit :

Hi,

Just FYI, I went back to 2.6.24-1-686.
I had 2.6.25-1-686 + 2.6.25-2-686 running for 9 days and had 3 hard 
freezes: nothing moved, no kbd, no mouse.

The logs showed nothing up to the moment.
That hasn't happened since I bought this mobo 3 years ago.

It could be my hardware setup:
2 ATA disks, 2 USB external drives, one ATA, one SATA.

Hugo

I had the same problem using "bigmem" on an Asus P5K-E mobo, c2duo and 
4gb ram. On the same box the -amd64 is running fine. I tried many 
compilation options, and I even got the freezes with a vanilla kernel. 
It's still the same for 2.6.25-3.
I filled a bug report but it didn't catch a lot of interest so far... I 
thought I was the only one to get that.


The only output I got was :







It's happening even with no xserver started on non tainted kernel.

What's your hardware precisely ?




I have an EP-8VTAI mobo with an Athlon XP +2700 at 2GHz and 1GB of memory.

What is the number of the bug?

At least you got output, I got nothing.

Hugo


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Re: printing setup

[tyler]

"Russell L. Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> * tyler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [080517 13:49]:
>> tyler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> 
>>> I'm just starting to set up my printer, and all is well except for one
>>> thing. The page prints too close to the top of the paper, so that I lose
>>> the top cm or so off the top of the paper. I'm not sure if this is a
>>> CUPS issue, a printer issue, a driver issue? I looked around the CUPS
>>> webpage, and did some googling, but I'm not really sure what I'm looking
>>> for. Any pointers?
>
> Check the default papersize (typically A4 or letter).
>
> $ apropos paper
>
> See the man pages for:  papersize, paperconf, paperconfig, texconfig.
>
>

Thanks!

I checked through the man pages, and as far as I can tell my default
paper size is correctly set to letter, 8.5" x 11". paperconfig isn't
installed, and I don't know what package it's part of, so that may be a
problem? Also, when printing from Firefox/Iceweasel I found that I
needed to reduce the page by 70% to get it to fit onto the page. The
option to scale the page to paper size didn't work on its own. Anything
else I should look at?

Cheers,

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Re: Mail not getting to DU

[Wayne Topa]

More information on my mail problem.

Ron Johnson asked

How have you configured your MUA?  To use your ISP's smtp > server, or
to use a local MTA as a relay host?



Running postfix version 252~rc2-1.  Yes my relay host is set to my ISP's
smtp server.

Note:  'This' mail is being sent on my system using icedove.

The only lists I am having problems sending to are the debian lists.
All other (8) mailing lists are receiving my mail.

The OP was to see if it might be a postfix problem, which I doubt.


Paul  Johnson wrote:


My mail is not getting to DU from my home box.



Yeah, it is.


That mail was not sent from my home system though.

I will contact the listmaster.

Thanks
Wayne




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Re: problems installing openoffice.org in etch

[Marcelo Chiapparini]

Florian Kulzer wrote:

On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 17:56:24 -0300, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:

Florian Kulzer wrote:

On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 16:38:13 -0300, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:

Florian Kulzer wrote:

On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 15:01:49 -0300, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:

Florian Kulzer wrote:

On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 14:02:44 -0300, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:

[...]

Thank you very much for the advice. However, I am still 
having the same  problem: 'aptitude remove --purge ' 
does not fix the problem.  The problem with the unmet 
dependencies


libstlport4.6c2
libservlet2.3-java
libxt-java
libmdbtools
libportaudio0


[...]

Hi! follows a copy of my /etc/apt/sources.list file. Just in case, I 
am  using the amd64 port of etch...


deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian etch main contrib non-free

That should work; this mirror has the .deb file right here:
http://http.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/s/stlport4.6/libstlport4.6c2_4.6.2-3_amd64.deb

What happens if you run "aptitude update"? Are there any error messages?


Here it is, no error messages:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo aptitude update


[ lines not pertaining to http.us.debian.org removed ]


Get:1 http://http.us.debian.org etch Release.gpg [378B]
Hit http://http.us.debian.org etch Release
Ign http://http.us.debian.org etch/main Packages/DiffIndex
Ign http://http.us.debian.org etch/contrib Packages/DiffIndex
Ign http://http.us.debian.org etch/non-free Packages/DiffIndex
Hit http://http.us.debian.org etch/main Packages
Hit http://http.us.debian.org etch/contrib Packages
Hit http://http.us.debian.org etch/non-free Packages


That does look OK indeed. Do you now see the package available with
"apt-cache policy libstlport4.6c2"?


Hi Florian,

here is the output. The package is still missing:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-cache policy libstlport4.6c2
libstlport4.6c2:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: (none)
  Version table:
 4.6.2-3 0
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

What about installing libstlport4.6c2 by hand? downloading the .deb file 
and using dpkg -i? of course, I will have to care about dependences by 
hand too. Does this make sense?


I use synaptic for installing packages. Yesterday, when I ran synaptic, 
it complained about a dependence problem, asking to use "Fix broken 
packages" before installing anything. After that, the problem with the 
installation of openoffice begun. May be both things are related? I 
don't know...


thanks a lot for your time!

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Re: acpi kernel modules - obsolete or not?

[Andrew Sackville-West]

On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 04:17:00AM -0700, Bill wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-19-05 at 21:55 -0500, Mark Allums wrote:
> > ACPI will be replaced, but it's APM (and Plug-and-Play) that is 
> > deprecated in favor of ACPI.  It is widely needed by billions of 
> > motherboards, and won't be eliminated entirely anytime soon. 
> 
> Well have a look at the 2.6.25 documentation in something like 
> menuconfig. It clearly states that these particular features are 
> deprecated. Now. 

I'm not fully up-to-date on this, but it is my understanding that the
acpi interface has been moved from /proc to /sys, but the acpi tools
(apicd, etc) haven't been changed to reflect that yet. But that's all
based on information from a few months ago, so salt liberally.

A


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Re: Mail not getting to DU

[Ron Johnson]

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On 05/20/08 09:51, Wayne Topa wrote:
> More information on my mail problem.
> 
> Ron Johnson asked
>> How have you configured your MUA?  To use your ISP's smtp > server, or
>> to use a local MTA as a relay host?
> 
> 
> Running postfix version 252~rc2-1.  Yes my relay host is set to my ISP's
> smtp server.

You did this with dpkg-reconfigure?

> Note:  'This' mail is being sent on my system using icedove.

Directly configured to point to smtp.${yourisp}.net?

> The only lists I am having problems sending to are the debian lists.
> All other (8) mailing lists are receiving my mail.
> 
> The OP was to see if it might be a postfix problem, which I doubt.

If it wouldn't expose anything important, could you attach your
/etc/postfix/main.cf or upload it to your web site for us to see it?

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Re: [OT] FOSS Marketplace

[Steve Lamb]

On Tue, May 20, 2008 6:26 am, Samuel Bächler wrote:
> That' s not what I meant. By the term "normal" user I am thinking of
> someone who sees some advantages of using a computer but does not
> want to make his living out of it. Therefore that person maybe is willing
> to spend some of his wage to the other person who loves computers and
> therefore will solve tasks somewhat faster than others.

You mean guru.com?


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hwinfo hangs up the modem

[Hugo Vanwoerkom]

Hi,

Running hwinfo (13.41) I ran into an interesting feature:

I was online + all indicators show I am still online, but the phone 
starts ringing. Then if you access a webpage an error occurs.


This is with an analog modem.

Hugo


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Re: blogging - alternative packages

[Brian McKee]

On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 12:41 AM, Russell L. Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am in search of a simplified approach to blog maintenance.  At the
> present time, I have a blog which is maintained with WordPress.
>
> WordPress rapidly is increasing in complexity because features are
> being added.  The procedure for backing up and restoring the MySQL
> data base is complex.  And with the complexity comes the need for
> frequent updates of the WordPress software; this is becoming a hassle.

Wordpress does have plug ins to do updates and backups.

I've found Wordpress Automatic Updater reduces a lot of the fiddling required.


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Re: problems installing openoffice.org in etch

[Florian Kulzer]

On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 11:51:17 -0300, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:
> Florian Kulzer wrote:
>> On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 17:56:24 -0300, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:
>>> Florian Kulzer wrote:
 On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 16:38:13 -0300, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:

[...]

> Hi! follows a copy of my /etc/apt/sources.list file. Just in 
> case, I am  using the amd64 port of etch...
>
> deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian etch main contrib non-free
 That should work; this mirror has the .deb file right here:
 http://http.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/s/stlport4.6/libstlport4.6c2_4.6.2-3_amd64.deb

 What happens if you run "aptitude update"? Are there any error messages?

>>> Here it is, no error messages:
>>>
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo aptitude update
>>
>> [ lines not pertaining to http.us.debian.org removed ]
>>
>>> Get:1 http://http.us.debian.org etch Release.gpg [378B]
>>> Hit http://http.us.debian.org etch Release
>>> Ign http://http.us.debian.org etch/main Packages/DiffIndex
>>> Ign http://http.us.debian.org etch/contrib Packages/DiffIndex
>>> Ign http://http.us.debian.org etch/non-free Packages/DiffIndex
>>> Hit http://http.us.debian.org etch/main Packages
>>> Hit http://http.us.debian.org etch/contrib Packages
>>> Hit http://http.us.debian.org etch/non-free Packages
>>
>> That does look OK indeed. Do you now see the package available with
>> "apt-cache policy libstlport4.6c2"?
>
> Hi Florian,
>
> here is the output. The package is still missing:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-cache policy libstlport4.6c2
> libstlport4.6c2:
>   Installed: (none)
>   Candidate: (none)
>   Version table:
>  4.6.2-3 0
> 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
>
> What about installing libstlport4.6c2 by hand? downloading the .deb file  
> and using dpkg -i? of course, I will have to care about dependences by  
> hand too. Does this make sense?

That is possible, but it will be a lot of work to download all the
dependencies (and the dependencies of the dependencies, etc.) yourself.

> I use synaptic for installing packages. Yesterday, when I ran synaptic,  
> it complained about a dependence problem, asking to use "Fix broken  
> packages" before installing anything. After that, the problem with the  
> installation of openoffice begun. May be both things are related? I  
> don't know...

I would like to know how long the Packages file for http.us.debian.org
is on your system. Please post the output of:

ls -lh 
/var/lib/apt/lists/http.us.debian.org_debian_dists_stable_main_binary-amd64_Packages

Also, you can check if this file lists the libstlport4.6c2 package:

grep -A7 '^Package: libstlport4.6c2' 
/var/lib/apt/lists/http.us.debian.org_debian_dists_stable_main_binary-amd64_Packages


Other things you can try:

Maybe there is a problem with the Packages file on your computer and it
does not get corrected because apt(itude) only downloads the index file
diffs by default. You can force a new download of the whole Packages
file with this:

aptitude -o Acquire::PDiffs=false update

(This will download several MB, so it might take a while depending on
 your network connection.)

If all else fails, try another mirror.

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capturing BookTV videos

[Rick Pasotto]

Has anyone been able to capture/download BookTV videos under linux? They
seem to go to great lengths to hide and/or obfuscate the url so I can't
find one to give to mplayer. Actually, I can't even watch them. The page
has some CDATA with 'ActiveX' in it so maybe they require MS.

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Re: problems installing openoffice.org in etch

[Mumia W..]

On 05/20/2008 09:51 AM, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:

Florian Kulzer wrote:

On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 17:56:24 -0300, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:

Florian Kulzer wrote:

On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 16:38:13 -0300, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:

Florian Kulzer wrote:

On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 15:01:49 -0300, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:

Florian Kulzer wrote:

On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 14:02:44 -0300, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:

[...]

Thank you very much for the advice. However, I am still having 
the same  problem: 'aptitude remove --purge ' does not 
fix the problem.  The problem with the unmet dependencies


libstlport4.6c2
libservlet2.3-java
libxt-java
libmdbtools
libportaudio0


[...]

Hi! follows a copy of my /etc/apt/sources.list file. Just in case, 
I am  using the amd64 port of etch...


deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian etch main contrib non-free

That should work; this mirror has the .deb file right here:
http://http.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/s/stlport4.6/libstlport4.6c2_4.6.2-3_amd64.deb 



What happens if you run "aptitude update"? Are there any error 
messages?



Here it is, no error messages:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo aptitude update


[ lines not pertaining to http.us.debian.org removed ]


Get:1 http://http.us.debian.org etch Release.gpg [378B]
Hit http://http.us.debian.org etch Release
Ign http://http.us.debian.org etch/main Packages/DiffIndex
Ign http://http.us.debian.org etch/contrib Packages/DiffIndex
Ign http://http.us.debian.org etch/non-free Packages/DiffIndex
Hit http://http.us.debian.org etch/main Packages
Hit http://http.us.debian.org etch/contrib Packages
Hit http://http.us.debian.org etch/non-free Packages


That does look OK indeed. Do you now see the package available with
"apt-cache policy libstlport4.6c2"?


Hi Florian,

here is the output. The package is still missing:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-cache policy libstlport4.6c2
libstlport4.6c2:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: (none)
  Version table:
 4.6.2-3 0
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

What about installing libstlport4.6c2 by hand? downloading the .deb file 
and using dpkg -i? of course, I will have to care about dependences by 
hand too. Does this make sense?




You shouldn't have to do that.

I use synaptic for installing packages. Yesterday, when I ran synaptic, 
it complained about a dependence problem, asking to use "Fix broken 
packages" before installing anything. After that, the problem with the 
installation of openoffice begun. May be both things are related? I 
don't know...


thanks a lot for your time!



Something seems to be broken with your apt system. Please don't muss 
your system on my account, but I would delete (or move) everything in 
/var/cache/apt/* . Those things should be recreated by the next 
"aptitude update" (and possibly "apt-file update").


The way I see it, you've performed all the steps necessary to get 
libstlport4.6c2 recognized by apt-get as an installation option, so 
something must be wrong with apt.


Do this:

cd /var/cache/apt
mkdir /var/trash.d
mv /var/cache/apt/* /var/trash.d/
aptitude update


Then do the "apt-cache policy libstlport4.6c2" again. The package should 
appear this time. If not, I'm mystified.



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Re: Tab in Java

[Dotan Cohen]

2008/5/20 Adam Hardy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Did you notice that you can actually tab between the fields of the login
> dialog?
>

Yes, that is in HTML. After that the user opens another page, and only
then opens the Java applet.

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A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?

Re: capturing BookTV videos

[Ron Johnson]

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On 05/20/08 11:41, Rick Pasotto wrote:
> Has anyone been able to capture/download BookTV videos under linux? They
> seem to go to great lengths to hide and/or obfuscate the url so I can't
> find one to give to mplayer. Actually, I can't even watch them. The page
> has some CDATA with 'ActiveX' in it so maybe they require MS.

I've been able to start downloading them by copying the link and
then pasting them as wget parameters.

But it always fails part-way thru with some weird error.

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Mail not getting to DU

[Wayne Topa]

>> Running postfix version 252~rc2-1.  Yes my relay host is set to my ISP's
>> smtp server.

> You did this with dpkg-reconfigure?

No, I set it up in  /etc/postfix/main.cf

>> Note:  'This' mail is being sent on my system using icedove.

>Directly configured to point to smtp.${yourisp}.net?

Yes.

I am still reading the mail on mutt though.  So I have to paste your
message into icedove.  ;-(


>> The only lists I am having problems sending to are the debian lists.
>> All other (8) mailing lists are receiving my mail.
>>
>> The OP was to see if it might be a postfix problem, which I doubt.

I am beginning to think that post fix may be messed up.  I can send to the
list with  icedove (direct to ISP) and using the ISP's webmail, but not now
with postfix.  The odd thing is, I have 8-12 other lists that I am not 
having
this problem with.  I can receive from all my lists and can send to them 
all
except the debian lists.  I can't figure out how postfix could be 
misconfigured,
just for debian lists.  This started about 3-4 weeks ago but I was busy 
with other

projects and didn't discover the problem until this past weekend.

> If it wouldn't expose anything important, could you attach your
> /etc/postfix/main.cf or upload it to your web site for us to see it?


No problem.  It's attached.

Thanks for the help Ron.

Wayne
# See /usr/share/postfix/main.cf.dist for a commented, more complete version


# Debian specific:  Specifying a file name will cause the first
# line of that file to be used as the name.  The Debian default
# is /etc/mailname.
#myorigin = /etc/mailname

smtpd_banner = $myhostname ESMTP $mail_name (Debian/GNU)
biff = no

# appending .domain is the MUA's job.
append_dot_mydomain = no

# Uncomment the next line to generate "delayed mail" warnings
#delay_warning_time = 4h

readme_directory = /usr/share/doc/postfix

# TLS parameters
#smtpd_tls_cert_file=/etc/ssl/certs/ssl-cert-snakeoil.pem
#smtpd_tls_key_file=/etc/ssl/private/ssl-cert-snakeoil.key
#smtpd_use_tls=yes
#smtpd_tls_session_cache_database = btree:${queue_directory}/smtpd_scache
#smtp_tls_session_cache_database = btree:${queue_directory}/smtp_scache

# See /usr/share/doc/postfix/TLS_README.gz in the postfix-doc package for
# information on enabling SSL in the smtp client.

myhostname = dj.mtntop.home
alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases
alias_database = hash:/etc/aliases
myorigin = /etc/mailname
#mydestination = dot5hosting.com, dj.mtntop.home, localhost.mtntop.home, 
localhost
mydestination = wtopa.dot5hosting.com, dj.mtntop.home, localhost.mtntop.home, 
localhost
relayhost = [wtopa.dot5hosting.com]
mynetworks = 127.0.0.0/8 
mailbox_command = procmail -a "$EXTENSION"
mailbox_size_limit = 0
recipient_delimiter = +
inet_interfaces = all
html_directory = /usr/share/doc/postfix/html
smtpd_banner = $myhostname ESMTP $mail_name (Debian/GNU)
transport_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/transport
smtp_sasl_password_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/sasl/sasl_passwd

Problem with rsync between debian sid and nfs from opensuse

[Ivan Marin]

Hello everybody,

I'm trying to do a rsync from my home directory (Debian Sid i386) to a 
NFS mounted on this system, but mounted from a OpenSuse 10.3. The 
permissions are right on both ends (Debian and OpenSuse), and the rsync 
starts ok, but after a few gigas


rsync error: some files could not be transferred (code 23) at 
main.c(1049) [sender=3.0.2]


And the transfer is just interrupted. Sometimes the OpenSuse box locks 
up after this error.


Any clues to what can be happening?


dpkg -l | grep rsync
ii  rsync
3.0.2-2  fast remote file copy program (like rcp)


Linux  2.6.24-1-686 #1 SMP Sat Apr 19 00:37:55 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux

Thank you!


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Re: Alt-gr key not working correctly under X after a testing upgrade

[Florian Kulzer]

On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 22:36:36 +0200, Julien Barnier wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I recently made a «dist-upgrade» on my Thinkpad T21 laptop under
> Debian testing (xerver-xorg v7.3+10, kernel 2.6.24-6).
> 
> Since then I have a very strange behavior of the «Alt-Gr» key under X
> (works fine in a terminal outside of X). The key has an effect, but
> not the good one. If I want to make a «#» I get a «#» plus a
> linefeed. The pipe does not work at all. 
> 
> Thanks in advance for any help,
> 
> Julien
> 
> 
> Here is the content of the relevant xorg.conf section :
> 
> ,
> | Section "InputDevice"
> | Identifier  "Generic Keyboard"
> | Driver  "kbd"
> | Option  "XkbRules"  "xorg"
> | Option  "XkbModel"  "pc105"
> | Option  "XkbLayout" "fr"
> | Option  "XkbVariant""latin9"
> | EndSection
> `

I tried this configuration and it works for me. AltGr+3 produces "#" and
AltGr+6 produces "|". I run Sid, but you should have the same versions
of xserver-xorg-input-kbd (1:1.2.2-3) and xkb-data
(1.2~cvs.20080501.1-1) if your Lenny system is up-to-date. I do have a
newer kernel (2.6.25), but I think this is an Xorg issue and not a
kernel problem.

> Here is the result of xev on a AltGr keypress, and a AltGr+3 keypress :
> 
> ,
> | KeyPress event, serial 21, synthetic NO, window 0xe1,
> | root 0x46, subw 0x0, time 5134475, (622,377), root:(623,378),
> | state 0x0, keycode 113 (keysym 0xfe03, ISO_Level3_Shift), same_screen 
> YES,
> | XLookupString gives 0 bytes: 
> | XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes: 
> | XFilterEvent returns: False

[...]

> | KeyPress event, serial 24, synthetic NO, window 0xe1,
> | root 0x46, subw 0x0, time 5135793, (622,377), root:(623,378),
> | state 0x0, keycode 113 (keysym 0xfe03, ISO_Level3_Shift), same_screen 
> YES,
> | XLookupString gives 0 bytes: 
> | XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes: 
> | XFilterEvent returns: False
> | 
> | KeyPress event, serial 24, synthetic NO, window 0xe1,
> | root 0x46, subw 0x0, time 5135897, (622,377), root:(623,378),
> | state 0x88, keycode 12 (keysym 0x23, numbersign), same_screen YES,
> | XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (23) "#"
> | XmbLookupString gives 1 bytes: (23) "#"
> | XFilterEvent returns: False

That looks OK to me; I see the same with your configuration when I press
the same keys. 

[...]

> Here is the result of xmodmap -pke :

[...]

> | keycode  12 = quotedbl 3 numbersign cedilla numbersign cedilla

This should work, numbersign is on Level3.

> | keycode  15 = minus 6 bar brokenbar bar brokenbar

This should work, bar (i.e. "|") is on Level3.

> | keycode 113 = ISO_Level3_Shift

[...]

I compared my output for "xmodmap -pke" with yours. The only thing that
diff turns up is that I have shifted Multi_key from keycode 227 to
keycode 116 (where you have Super_R). I don't think this should make any
difference. Can you post your modifier map, i.e. the output of "xmodmap
-pm"?

Maybe we find a clue in the Xorg log, e.g. with something liek this:

egrep -i -A2 -B2 'keyb|kbd|xkb|xinput' /var/log/Xorg.0.log

Which X terminal or other program do you use that show the keyboard
problem? What is you locale setting?

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Re: Mail not getting to DU

[Ron Johnson]

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On 05/20/08 12:38, Wayne Topa wrote:
>>> Running postfix version 252~rc2-1.  Yes my relay host is set to my ISP's
>>> smtp server.
> 
>> You did this with dpkg-reconfigure?
> 
> No, I set it up in  /etc/postfix/main.cf
> 
>>> Note:  'This' mail is being sent on my system using icedove.
> 
>>Directly configured to point to smtp.${yourisp}.net?
> 
> Yes.
> 
> I am still reading the mail on mutt though.  So I have to paste your
> message into icedove.  ;-(
> 
> 
>>> The only lists I am having problems sending to are the debian lists.
>>> All other (8) mailing lists are receiving my mail.
>>>
>>> The OP was to see if it might be a postfix problem, which I doubt.
> 
> I am beginning to think that post fix may be messed up.  I can send to the
> list with  icedove (direct to ISP) and using the ISP's webmail, but not now
> with postfix.  The odd thing is, I have 8-12 other lists that I am not
> having
> this problem with.  I can receive from all my lists and can send to them
> all
> except the debian lists.  I can't figure out how postfix could be
> misconfigured,
> just for debian lists.  This started about 3-4 weeks ago but I was busy
> with other
> projects and didn't discover the problem until this past weekend.
> 
>> If it wouldn't expose anything important, could you attach your
>> /etc/postfix/main.cf or upload it to your web site for us to see it?
> 
> 
> No problem.  It's attached.
> 
> Thanks for the help Ron.

The only seemingly significant differences are that you have []
around your relayhost, and mynetworks is 127.0.0.0/8.  For some
now-unremembered reason, I had to change it to 192.168.1.0/24.
Also, I don't see a relay_domains in your main.cf.

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Re: blogging - alternative packages

[Russell L. Harris]

* Brian McKee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [080520 11:42]:
> On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 12:41 AM, Russell L. Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I am in search of a simplified approach to blog maintenance.  At the
> > present time, I have a blog which is maintained with WordPress.
> >
> > WordPress rapidly is increasing in complexity because features are
> > being added.  The procedure for backing up and restoring the MySQL
> > data base is complex.  And with the complexity comes the need for
> > frequent updates of the WordPress software; this is becoming a hassle.
> 
> Wordpress does have plug ins to do updates and backups.
> 
> I've found Wordpress Automatic Updater reduces a lot of the fiddling required.
> 

I have been using the backup plug-in, but when it comes time to
restore, it is necessary to use MySQL from the desktop machine --
which is a pain.

As to updates, my hosting provider finally provides automatated
installation of WordPress, but with major version changes, there is
the need to backup and restore, and that is the point at which I now
find myself -- it isn't simple.

RLH


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Re: Mail not getting to DU

[Kevin Monceaux]

Wayne,

On Tue, 20 May 2008, Wayne Topa wrote:


I am still reading the mail on mutt though.  So I have to paste your
message into icedove.  ;-(


I haven't been following this discussion, so forgive me if I'm 
misunderstanding.  I suspect from this e-mail that you're having problems 
sending e-mail from Mutt to the list, which you have set up to go through 
postfix on your local box then on to your ISP.  Have you tried sending 
directly from Mutt through your ISP's mail server?  Yes, I know Mutt 
itself doesn't have that capability.  Just Google for Mutt SMTP wrapper 
and you'll find a shell script you can use to send mail directly from Mutt 
through your IPS's mail server.  I used it for a number of years before 
switching to Alpine.




Kevin
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Re: howto: romanian alphabet - special characters?

[Andrei Popescu]

On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 04:59:08PM +0300, Bogdan Marian wrote:
> Hey,
>
> I'm on KDE and even if i switch to Romanian Layout, i dont't get those 
> special characters on OpenOffice. Do i need to install some special fonts 
> or smth? I have already installed Linux Libertine fonts but still...
> Anyone can help please?

Try with DejaVu fonts. Also paste the output of 'locale'. I can't help 
with KDE nor OpenOffice as I don't use any, but I switch keyboard 
layouts with

setxkbmap ro

or similar. There are also two types of Romania layouts. The default one 
uses AltGr (right Alt) as a compose key and you get the diacritics like

Alt + a = ă
Alt + s = ş
Alt + t = ţ
...
Alt + q = â

The "std" variant ('setxkbmap ro std')is almost identic with the one you 
might know from Windows (ex. "z" and "y" are not swapped).

If you don't plan to exchange documents with XP users I would suggest to 
use the "comma" variant or the "academic" one, because they generate the 
correct ș and ț (you might notice there is a comma below not a cedilla).

If you are interested in this stuff you might want to join 
debian-l10n-romanian (very low traffic) or [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(low traffic), the unofficial coordination of Romania localization 
efforts.

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Re: freezes in 2.6.25

[thveillon.debian]

Hugo Vanwoerkom a écrit :

thveillon.debian wrote:

Hugo Vanwoerkom a écrit :

Hi,

Just FYI, I went back to 2.6.24-1-686.
I had 2.6.25-1-686 + 2.6.25-2-686 running for 9 days and had 3 hard 
freezes: nothing moved, no kbd, no mouse.

The logs showed nothing up to the moment.
That hasn't happened since I bought this mobo 3 years ago.

It could be my hardware setup:
2 ATA disks, 2 USB external drives, one ATA, one SATA.

Hugo

I had the same problem using "bigmem" on an Asus P5K-E mobo, c2duo 
and 4gb ram. On the same box the -amd64 is running fine. I tried many 
compilation options, and I even got the freezes with a vanilla 
kernel. It's still the same for 2.6.25-3.
I filled a bug report but it didn't catch a lot of interest so far... 
I thought I was the only one to get that.


The only output I got was :







It's happening even with no xserver started on non tainted kernel.

What's your hardware precisely ?




I have an EP-8VTAI mobo with an Athlon XP +2700 at 2GHz and 1GB of 
memory.


What is the number of the bug?

At least you got output, I got nothing.

Hugo



I have filled a new one for the latest 2.6.25-3, bug number *482100*. 
Since I had problem with the vanilla kernel (did you try compiling from 
vanilla kernel.org sources ?) I'm thinking of filling a bug there. I'll 
wait for some Debian feedback first, maybe it's just a problem with a 
specific system setting.


Tom
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Re: Mail not getting to DU

[Florian Kulzer]

On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 13:56:54 -0500, Kevin Monceaux wrote:
> Wayne,
>
> On Tue, 20 May 2008, Wayne Topa wrote:
>
>> I am still reading the mail on mutt though.  So I have to paste your
>> message into icedove.  ;-(
>
> I haven't been following this discussion, so forgive me if I'm  
> misunderstanding.  I suspect from this e-mail that you're having problems 
> sending e-mail from Mutt to the list, which you have set up to go through 
> postfix on your local box then on to your ISP.

I have had similar issues in the past with mutt -> exim4 on localhost ->
smtp server, but I don't remember if it also affected posting to
debian-user. I have always attributed these problems to spam blocking
via IP blacklisting. Changing my mail configuration (see below) solved
the issue for me.

> Have you tried sending  
> directly from Mutt through your ISP's mail server?  Yes, I know Mutt  
> itself doesn't have that capability.  Just Google for Mutt SMTP wrapper  
> and you'll find a shell script you can use to send mail directly from 
> Mutt through your IPS's mail server.  I used it for a number of years 
> before switching to Alpine.

Mutt has had integrated SMTP support since early 2007: 

-
This patch adds ESMTP relay support to mutt. To use, set $smtp_url to
the address of your smtp relay, in the form:

smtp[s]://[user[:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:port]/

where port defaults to 25 for smtp and 465 for smtps.

You can also set $smtp_authenticators to control which methods mutt will
attempt to use during authentication. See $imap_authenticators for
details.
-

Debian incorporated this feature in version 1.5.14+cvs20070301-1, so it
is unfortunately not available in Etch. Backports.org has a new enough
version of mutt, though.

I always found msmtp very reliable to use with the pre-esmtp versions
of mutt. The syntax of ~/.msmtprc is very straightforward, e.g.:

tls on
host smtp.example.com
from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
auth on
user your_username 
password XX

Then you only need

set sendmail="/usr/bin/msmtp"

in your ~/.muttrc and you should be ready to go.

Another thing that might help is subscribing to Debian's whitelist:
http://lists.debian.org/whitelist/

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Re: curlftpfs and /dev/fuse

[Florian Kulzer]

On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 19:40:31 +0200, Fabrizio Lippolis wrote:
> I have installed curlftpfs and I am trying to mount an ftp repository
> in
> my file local file system. I am trying to do this as root as a first
> try
> not to have problems with permissions and so on.
> 
> machine:~# curlftpfs -o allow_other,user=":"
> ftp://ftphost/ /mnt/dir/
> fusermount: failed to open /dev/fuse: No such file or directory
> 
> The installation of curlftpfs automatically required fuse-utils and
> libfuse2 which are installed. I can't find the /dev/fuse device, I
> rather
> see there is a /dev/.static/dev/fuse device.
> Suggestions are welcome. TIA.

Can you load the fuse module? Run "modprobe -v fuse" as root and check
if /dev/fuse is created. If this does not work then tell us which kernel
you run. (Post the output of "uname -a".)

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Re: freezes in 2.6.25

[Hugo Vanwoerkom]

thveillon.debian wrote:

Hugo Vanwoerkom a écrit :

thveillon.debian wrote:

Hugo Vanwoerkom a écrit :

Hi,

Just FYI, I went back to 2.6.24-1-686.
I had 2.6.25-1-686 + 2.6.25-2-686 running for 9 days and had 3 hard 
freezes: nothing moved, no kbd, no mouse.

The logs showed nothing up to the moment.
That hasn't happened since I bought this mobo 3 years ago.

It could be my hardware setup:
2 ATA disks, 2 USB external drives, one ATA, one SATA.

Hugo

I had the same problem using "bigmem" on an Asus P5K-E mobo, c2duo 
and 4gb ram. On the same box the -amd64 is running fine. I tried many 
compilation options, and I even got the freezes with a vanilla 
kernel. It's still the same for 2.6.25-3.
I filled a bug report but it didn't catch a lot of interest so far... 
I thought I was the only one to get that.


The only output I got was :







It's happening even with no xserver started on non tainted kernel.

What's your hardware precisely ?




I have an EP-8VTAI mobo with an Athlon XP +2700 at 2GHz and 1GB of 
memory.


What is the number of the bug?

At least you got output, I got nothing.

Hugo



I have filled a new one for the latest 2.6.25-3, bug number *482100*. 
Since I had problem with the vanilla kernel (did you try compiling from 
vanilla kernel.org sources ?) I'm thinking of filling a bug there. I'll 
wait for some Debian feedback first, maybe it's just a problem with a 
specific system setting.




I did compile from 2.6.25.3 - I see that the current stable is 2.6.25.4 
- and I ran that for two days but never got a freeze. I changed my 
strategy slightly: I was going to go back to that version after the 3 
freezes in the Debian kernel, but instead I went back to 2.6.24-1-686. 
Got scared I guess... :-)
I submitted *482074* describing the freeze, but other than looking for 
other people who report a freeze I don't hold out much hope.


Hugo





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Re: blogging - alternative packages

[Paul Johnson]

On Tuesday 20 May 2008 09:36:05 am Brian McKee wrote:
> On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 12:41 AM, Russell L. Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> > I am in search of a simplified approach to blog maintenance.  At the
> > present time, I have a blog which is maintained with WordPress.
> >
> > WordPress rapidly is increasing in complexity because features are
> > being added.  The procedure for backing up and restoring the MySQL
> > data base is complex.  And with the complexity comes the need for
> > frequent updates of the WordPress software; this is becoming a hassle.
>
> Wordpress does have plug ins to do updates and backups.
>
> I've found Wordpress Automatic Updater reduces a lot of the fiddling
> required.

Does livejournal have it's own pacakge?

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Re: freezes in 2.6.25

[Hugo Vanwoerkom]

thveillon.debian wrote:

Hugo Vanwoerkom a écrit :

thveillon.debian wrote:

Hugo Vanwoerkom a écrit :

Hi,

Just FYI, I went back to 2.6.24-1-686.
I had 2.6.25-1-686 + 2.6.25-2-686 running for 9 days and had 3 hard 
freezes: nothing moved, no kbd, no mouse.

The logs showed nothing up to the moment.
That hasn't happened since I bought this mobo 3 years ago.

It could be my hardware setup:
2 ATA disks, 2 USB external drives, one ATA, one SATA.

Hugo

I had the same problem using "bigmem" on an Asus P5K-E mobo, c2duo 
and 4gb ram. On the same box the -amd64 is running fine. I tried many 
compilation options, and I even got the freezes with a vanilla 
kernel. It's still the same for 2.6.25-3.
I filled a bug report but it didn't catch a lot of interest so far... 
I thought I was the only one to get that.


The only output I got was :







It's happening even with no xserver started on non tainted kernel.

What's your hardware precisely ?




I have an EP-8VTAI mobo with an Athlon XP +2700 at 2GHz and 1GB of 
memory.


What is the number of the bug?

At least you got output, I got nothing.

Hugo



I have filled a new one for the latest 2.6.25-3, bug number *482100*. 
Since I had problem with the vanilla kernel (did you try compiling from 
vanilla kernel.org sources ?) I'm thinking of filling a bug there. I'll 
wait for some Debian feedback first, maybe it's just a problem with a 
specific system setting.




In reading your bugreport, my symptoms are different: I can't tell 
*when* I am getting a freeze. Have to play around, but sooner or later 
it *does* happen.


Hugo












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Re: strange gs problem: unicode encoding problem with pdf (?)

[Rainer Dorsch]

Florian,

thanks for the quick reply.

Am Montag, 19. Mai 2008 schrieb Florian Kulzer:
> On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 23:30:15 +0200, Rainer Dorsch wrote:
> > Am Sonntag, 18. Mai 2008 schrieb Florian Kulzer:
> > > On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 23:47:06 +0200, Rainer Dorsch wrote:
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > I have a pdf file here which
> > > >
> > > > - Displays perfectly with kpdf
> > > > - Does not print from kpdf. This is because gs fails with this file:
>
> [...]
>
> > Nevertheless the correct one also does not print from kpdf:
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tmp.nobackup$ pdfinfo KKA-DKB.pdf
> > Author: User
> > Creator:DocBridge Mill/cpcold 2.05.01 (Apr  3 2008)
> > Producer:   Compart MFFPDF I/O Filter 2008-04-03 01:29:23
> > CreationDate:   Wed Apr 23 03:41:11 2008
> > ModDate:Wed Apr 23 03:41:11 2008
> > Tagged: no
> > Pages:  2
> > Encrypted:  no
> > Page size:  612 x 841.9 pts
> > File size:  33527 bytes
> > Optimized:  no
> > PDF version:1.3
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tmp.nobackup$ file KKA-DKB.pdf
> > KKA-DKB.pdf: PDF document, version 1.3
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tmp.nobackup$
> >
> >
> > /var/log/cups/error_log contains:
> >
> > E [18/May/2008:23:25:04 +0200] PID 16470
> > (/usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip) stopped with status 3!
> > E [18/May/2008:23:25:04 +0200] [Job 117] Job stopped due to filter
> > errors.
> >
> >
> > The file prints from the linux acroread version.
> >
> > Is there a way to gather useful debug data?
>
> You can try to run
>
> foomatic-rip -v --ppd /etc/cups/ppd/$PRINTER.ppd KKA-DKB.pdf > test.printer
>
> and hope for helpful error messages.
>
> (Replace $PRINTER so that you get the correct name of the ppd file for
>  your printer. This ppd file should be in /etc/cups/ppd/ and have the
>  same name as the printer in CUPS.)

Something seems to be broken here. Although pdfinfo detects correctly that 
there are two pages to be printed foomatic-rip wants to print over 100 pages, 
but does not give a useful error message:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tmp.nobackup$ pdfinfo KKA-DKB.pdf
Author: User
Creator:DocBridge Mill/cpcold 2.05.01 (Apr  3 2008)
Producer:   Compart MFFPDF I/O Filter 2008-04-03 01:29:23
CreationDate:   Wed Apr 23 03:41:11 2008
ModDate:Wed Apr 23 03:41:11 2008
Tagged: no
Pages:  2
Encrypted:  no
Page size:  612 x 841.9 pts
File size:  33527 bytes
Optimized:  no
PDF version:1.3
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tmp.nobackup$ 

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tmp.nobackup$ foomatic-rip -v --ppd 
/etc/cups/ppd/hplj6p.ppd 
KKA-DKB.pdf > /dev/null
foomatic-rip version $Revision$ running...
called with 
arguments: '-v', '--ppd', '/etc/cups/ppd/hplj6p.ppd', 'KKA-DKB.pdf'
Parsing PPD file ...
*cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-postscript 0 foomatic-rip"
Added option ColorSpace
Added option Resolution
Added option PageSize
Added option PageRegion
Added option Model
Added option PrintoutMode
Added option InputSlot
Added option ImageableArea
Added option PaperDimension
Added option Duplex
Added option Quality
Added option Font

Parameter Summary
-

Spooler: direct
Printer:
Shell: /bin/sh
PPD file: /etc/cups/ppd/hplj6p.ppd
ATTR file:
Printer model: HP LaserJet 6P Foomatic/hpijs (recommended) - HPLIP 2.7.10
Options:
Job title: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
File(s) to be printed:
KKA-DKB.pdf

GhostScript extra search path ('GS_LIB'): /home/rd/.fonts



File: KKA-DKB.pdf



Reading PostScript input ...

Job does not start with "%!", is it PostScript?
Starting file converter

Starting converter for non-PostScript files
tail process done reading data from STDIN
KID2 finished
file converter PID kid2=6675
file converter command: enscript -G -M A4 -b "Page $%|
[EMAIL PROTECTED]" --margins=36:36:36:36 --mark-wrapped-lines=arrow --word-wrap 
-p-
--> This document is DSC-conforming!

---
Found: %%BeginProlog
Inserting option code into "Prolog" section.
Found: %%EndProlog

---
Found: %%BeginSetup
Inserting option code into "Setup" section.
Found: %%EndSetup

---
New page:  (1) 1
Inserting option code into "PageSetup" section.

Found: %%BeginPageSetup
Found: %%EndPageSetup
End of page header
New page found but previous not printed, print it now.
Found: %%Page: (2) 2
 --> Output goes directly to the renderer now.


Starting renderer
JCL: 


---
New page:  (2) 2
Inserting option code into "PageSetup" section.
Found: %%Page: (2) 2
 --> Output goes to the FIFO buffer now.


Found: %%BeginPageSetup
Found: %%EndPageSetup
End of page header
New page found but previous not printed, print it now.
Found: %%Page: (3) 3
 --> Output goes directly to the renderer now.


---
New page:  (3) 3
Inserting option code into "PageSetup" section.
Found: %%Page: (3) 3
 --> Output goes to the FIFO buffer now.


Found: %%BeginPageSetup
Found: %%EndPageSetup
End of page header
New page found bu

[debian-user] How to copy a laptop HD?

[Javier Vasquez]

Hi,

I have an old laptop with a 10G HD.  I have it partitioned into a swap
partition hda5, an ext3 boot partition hda6, and an ext3 root
partition hda7 (all logical).  I acquired an 80G HD, and through an
USB interface I have it partitioned the same way, only with bigger
root partition, :).

I did a copy of the contents of each partitions, except by /proc under
root, into the new created ones, but I used "cp -a" instead of "dd".
This might have prevented copying the boot sector, necessary for the
boot sector probably...

Do you suggest using "dd" instead?  Would it work even if the destine
partition is bigger (I read somewhere it works perfectly when source
and destine are the same size, but I never read it works perfectly
when destine is bigger)...

What about the HD MBR?  I've tried already using "dd if=/dev/hda
of=~/full_mbr.bin bs=512 count=1 && dd if=~/full_mbr.bin of=/dev/sda
bs=446 count=1", but it didn't seem to work...  I wouldn't know if
using count=2 to include the boot sector would work since the boot
partition is the 2nd one (the swap is the 1st one)...

Any ways, I'm still on trials, but I haven't gotten grub to work yet.
I tried also "grub-install" on sda, but that doesn't seem to work, it
only does with chroot to the mounted root of sda and with a bind to
the mounted boot of sda, however partially since it doesn't get to
read stage2.  Running manually grub over the chroot seems to overcome
the stage2 thing, but I still don't get grub to work after booting.

The thing is that as this is a laptop, and changing the HD on the only
IDE slot is getting less fun each time, I was thinking what would be a
good recipy to follow.  Maybe using dd for each partition, or for the
whole HD would work, although I find it hard to believe it would (the
partition tables at least should be different, since the difference in
sizes), but I just might be too skeptical, and using dd for the whole
HD is what works out of the box after partitioning the HD, :).

Please suggest, recommend, etc, :).

Thanks,

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Re: Alt-gr key not working correctly under X after a testing upgrade

[Julien Barnier]

Hi,

> I tried this configuration and it works for me. AltGr+3 produces "#" and
> AltGr+6 produces "|". I run Sid, but you should have the same versions
> of xserver-xorg-input-kbd (1:1.2.2-3) and xkb-data
> (1.2~cvs.20080501.1-1) if your Lenny system is up-to-date. I do have a
> newer kernel (2.6.25), but I think this is an Xorg issue and not a
> kernel problem.

Yes, you're right, the versions are the same, except that I run &
2.6.24 kernel.

> I compared my output for "xmodmap -pke" with yours. The only thing that
> diff turns up is that I have shifted Multi_key from keycode 227 to
> keycode 116 (where you have Super_R). I don't think this should make any
> difference. Can you post your modifier map, i.e. the output of "xmodmap
> -pm"?

In fact, thanks to your help, I think I solved the problem, which was
caused by my .xmodmaprc. 

My previous xmodmaprc was the following :

,[ xmodmaprc ]
| clear Lock
| keycode 227 = Multi_key
| add Mod4 = Caps_Lock
| add Lock = Multi_key
`

And I found that these settings, since the upgrade, did modify the
Mod5 modifier by removing one of the ISO_Level3_Shift from it.

Then I changed my .xmodmaprc to the following :

,[ .xmodmaprc ]
| clear Lock
| keycode 227 = Multi_key
| keycode 113 = ISO_Level3_Shift
| add Lock = Multi_key
| add Mod4 = Caps_Lock
| add Mod5 = ISO_Level3_Shift
`

And now it seems to work right.

What I find strange is that everything was fine befor my upgrade, but
maybe my original xmodmaprc was buggy, as I am very far form an expert
in these sort of things...


Thanks for your help !

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Re: [debian-user] How to copy a laptop HD?

[Lee Glidewell]

Have a look at partimage. Specifically you might be interested in the 
CloneZilla live distro. It's built specifically for the purpose of porting 
installations between hard disks. 

Lee

On Tuesday 20 May 2008 01:47:03 pm Javier Vasquez wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have an old laptop with a 10G HD.  I have it partitioned into a swap
> partition hda5, an ext3 boot partition hda6, and an ext3 root
> partition hda7 (all logical).  I acquired an 80G HD, and through an
> USB interface I have it partitioned the same way, only with bigger
> root partition, :).
>
> I did a copy of the contents of each partitions, except by /proc under
> root, into the new created ones, but I used "cp -a" instead of "dd".
> This might have prevented copying the boot sector, necessary for the
> boot sector probably...
>
> Do you suggest using "dd" instead?  Would it work even if the destine
> partition is bigger (I read somewhere it works perfectly when source
> and destine are the same size, but I never read it works perfectly
> when destine is bigger)...
>
> What about the HD MBR?  I've tried already using "dd if=/dev/hda
> of=~/full_mbr.bin bs=512 count=1 && dd if=~/full_mbr.bin of=/dev/sda
> bs=446 count=1", but it didn't seem to work...  I wouldn't know if
> using count=2 to include the boot sector would work since the boot
> partition is the 2nd one (the swap is the 1st one)...
>
> Any ways, I'm still on trials, but I haven't gotten grub to work yet.
> I tried also "grub-install" on sda, but that doesn't seem to work, it
> only does with chroot to the mounted root of sda and with a bind to
> the mounted boot of sda, however partially since it doesn't get to
> read stage2.  Running manually grub over the chroot seems to overcome
> the stage2 thing, but I still don't get grub to work after booting.
>
> The thing is that as this is a laptop, and changing the HD on the only
> IDE slot is getting less fun each time, I was thinking what would be a
> good recipy to follow.  Maybe using dd for each partition, or for the
> whole HD would work, although I find it hard to believe it would (the
> partition tables at least should be different, since the difference in
> sizes), but I just might be too skeptical, and using dd for the whole
> HD is what works out of the box after partitioning the HD, :).
>
> Please suggest, recommend, etc, :).
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
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Re: [debian-user] How to copy a laptop HD?

[Jochen Schulz]

Javier Vasquez:
> 
> Do you suggest using "dd" instead?  Would it work even if the destine
> partition is bigger (I read somewhere it works perfectly when source
> and destine are the same size, but I never read it works perfectly
> when destine is bigger)...

Yes, it works. You have to resize your filesystems afterwards, but
that's not a biggie.

> What about the HD MBR?  I've tried already using "dd if=/dev/hda
> of=~/full_mbr.bin bs=512 count=1 && dd if=~/full_mbr.bin of=/dev/sda
> bs=446 count=1", but it didn't seem to work...

Why do you only copy 446 Bytes back?

> I wouldn't know if
> using count=2 to include the boot sector would work since the boot
> partition is the 2nd one (the swap is the 1st one)...

It doesn't matter where your boot partition is. You only need the MBR
(the first 512 Bytes, AFAIK, which you already copied.)

> The thing is that as this is a laptop, and changing the HD on the only
> IDE slot is getting less fun each time, I was thinking what would be a
> good recipy to follow.  Maybe using dd for each partition, or for the
> whole HD would work, although I find it hard to believe it would (the
> partition tables at least should be different, since the difference in
> sizes), but I just might be too skeptical, and using dd for the whole
> HD is what works out of the box after partitioning the HD, :).

No, you're right about your skepticism. dd'ing the whole disc will also
copy the partition table which you probably don't want.

You only need to:

- Partition the new disk to your liking.

- dd filesystems from old partitions to the new ones. Make sure to use a
  big number for the block size like bs=1M or more. That will speed up
  the process. While dd is working, you can send the dd process a USR1
  signal (like 'kill -USR1 $pid') to make it print a report about its
  current progress.

- Copy the MBR using 'dd if=/dev/in of=/dev/out bs=512 count=1'.

- Use resize2fs or whatever suits your filesystems to grow them up to
  the capacity of their partition.

- Swap disks and reboot.

At least, that's how it should work in theory. :)

J.
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Re: Alt-gr key not working correctly under X after a testing upgrade

[Julien Barnier]

Hi,

Sorry to answer to myself...

> Then I changed my .xmodmaprc to the following :
>
> ,[ .xmodmaprc ]
> | clear Lock
> | keycode 227 = Multi_key
> | keycode 113 = ISO_Level3_Shift
> | add Lock = Multi_key
> | add Mod4 = Caps_Lock
> | add Mod5 = ISO_Level3_Shift
> `
>
> And now it seems to work right.

It fact no, these settings don't seem to work. But at least I know
where the problem comes from and I think I'll find a correct xmodmparc
soon.

Thanks again,

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Re: freezes in 2.6.25

[thveillon.debian]

Hugo Vanwoerkom a écrit :

thveillon.debian wrote:

Hugo Vanwoerkom a écrit :

thveillon.debian wrote:

Hugo Vanwoerkom a écrit :

Hi,

Just FYI, I went back to 2.6.24-1-686.
I had 2.6.25-1-686 + 2.6.25-2-686 running for 9 days and had 3 
hard freezes: nothing moved, no kbd, no mouse.

The logs showed nothing up to the moment.
That hasn't happened since I bought this mobo 3 years ago.

It could be my hardware setup:
2 ATA disks, 2 USB external drives, one ATA, one SATA.

Hugo

I had the same problem using "bigmem" on an Asus P5K-E mobo, c2duo 
and 4gb ram. On the same box the -amd64 is running fine. I tried 
many compilation options, and I even got the freezes with a vanilla 
kernel. It's still the same for 2.6.25-3.
I filled a bug report but it didn't catch a lot of interest so 
far... I thought I was the only one to get that.


The only output I got was :







It's happening even with no xserver started on non tainted kernel.

What's your hardware precisely ?




I have an EP-8VTAI mobo with an Athlon XP +2700 at 2GHz and 1GB of 
memory.


What is the number of the bug?

At least you got output, I got nothing.

Hugo



I have filled a new one for the latest 2.6.25-3, bug number *482100*. 
Since I had problem with the vanilla kernel (did you try compiling 
from vanilla kernel.org sources ?) I'm thinking of filling a bug 
there. I'll wait for some Debian feedback first, maybe it's just a 
problem with a specific system setting.




I did compile from 2.6.25.3 - I see that the current stable is 
2.6.25.4 - and I ran that for two days but never got a freeze. I 
changed my strategy slightly: I was going to go back to that version 
after the 3 freezes in the Debian kernel, but instead I went back to 
2.6.24-1-686. Got scared I guess... :-)
I submitted *482074* describing the freeze, but other than looking for 
other people who report a freeze I don't hold out much hope.

Hugo


I didn't try the .4 since the good point about this problem is I 
switched my system to x86-64. I'm going to try it out of curiosity.


Regarding the when the "bug" (or not) happens, it's usually soon after 
boot time on my system, which is usually heavily loaded (with .1 I could 
hardly reach the login screen). The longer I got was with the vanilla 
build, about half an hour, for the debian builds it was always less than 
that.


Tom


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Re: D-Link DWL-122 Wireless Adapter

[Consultores Agropecuarios]

El dom, 18-05-2008 a las 13:48 +0200, Michael Geiger escribió:
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> francisco schrieb:
> | Hello
> |
> | Does somebody knows how to install the DWL-122 Wireless Adapter?
> 
> I have installed the same stick a few month ago. DWL-122 are based on
> prism2 chipset. I used the latest linux-wlan-ng tar ball (
> ftp://ftp.linux-wlan.org/pub/linux-wlan-ng/ ) and compiled it myself.
> 
> As far as I remember you can configure the stick with iwconfig and
> iwlist in 0.2.8.
> 
> Maybe you must copy the firmware to /lib/firmware
> 
> Michael

Thanks a lot, but where can i obtain the firmware? do you know?

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.xsession-errors query

[jamie]

Hi

I wanted to ask a question about the file ".xsession-errors", namely its
contents. 

Inside this file in my home directory is see this:

X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3
  Major opcode:  19
Minor opcode:  0
  Resource id:  0x228
  X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3
Major opcode:  19
  Minor opcode:  0
Resource id:  0x182
X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3
  Major opcode:  19
Minor opcode:  0
  Resource id:  0x1c8
  X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3
Major opcode:  20
  Minor opcode:  0
Resource id:  0x1c8

I don't know what this means and if it's something i should be worried
about. I wondered if anyone could explain it to me and advise if there's
anything i need to do to stop these error messages. 

Many thanks. 

Jamie


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Re: .xsession-errors query

[Jamie White]

On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 10:48 PM, jamie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi
>
> I wanted to ask a question about the file ".xsession-errors", namely its
> contents.
>
> Inside this file in my home directory is see this:
>
> X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3
>  Major opcode:  19
>Minor opcode:  0
>  Resource id:  0x228
>  X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3
>Major opcode:  19
>  Minor opcode:  0
>Resource id:  0x182
>X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3
>  Major opcode:  19
>Minor opcode:  0
>  Resource id:  0x1c8
>  X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3
>Major opcode:  20
>  Minor opcode:  0
>Resource id:  0x1c8
>
> I don't know what this means and if it's something i should be worried
> about. I wondered if anyone could explain it to me and advise if there's
> anything i need to do to stop these error messages.
>
> Many thanks.
>
> Jamie
>
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Hey,

I really wouldn't worry about those errors. Most likely cause is some
minor program bugs, and thats  the problem of individual application
developers, in fact at a glance, they strike as the type of bugs that
are so minor that nobody is going to bother fixing because its just
not worth the effort.
-- 
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(p.s. I think the fact I got exactly same name as you may cause some
confusion! In fact, reading you message rather caught me out, because
you even seem to use the same posting format as me... )


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Re: [debian-user] How to copy a laptop HD?

[Preston Boyington]

Javier Vasquez wrote:



I have an old laptop with a 10G HD...and changing the HD on the only
IDE slot is getting less fun each time


i really like using a livecd for these things and my current favorite is 
the gparted-clonezilla livecd.  couple that with a usb laptop drive 
enclosure and things will be much easier for you.


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Re: [OT] FOSS Marketplace

[Samuel Bächler]

 You mean guru.com?


Thanks for the input Steve. Guru.com is interesting to see if it
works and how it works. But of course I would like to see it
implemented in a FOSS way.

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Re: [debian-user] How to copy a laptop HD?

[Paul Johnson]

On Tuesday 20 May 2008 01:47:03 pm Javier Vasquez wrote:
> I did a copy of the contents of each partitions, except by /proc under
> root, into the new created ones, but I used "cp -a" instead of "dd".
> This might have prevented copying the boot sector, necessary for the
> boot sector probably...
>
> Do you suggest using "dd" instead?  Would it work even if the destine
> partition is bigger (I read somewhere it works perfectly when source
> and destine are the same size, but I never read it works perfectly
> when destine is bigger)...

You did it the right way the first time.  dd only works with same-size block 
devices anyway.

> What about the HD MBR?  I've tried already using "dd if=/dev/hda
> of=~/full_mbr.bin bs=512 count=1 && dd if=~/full_mbr.bin of=/dev/sda
> bs=446 count=1", but it didn't seem to work...  I wouldn't know if
> using count=2 to include the boot sector would work since the boot
> partition is the 2nd one (the swap is the 1st one)...

Don't try to copy it, reinstall it.  Less messy, less prone to failure.

> Any ways, I'm still on trials, but I haven't gotten grub to work yet.
> I tried also "grub-install" on sda, but that doesn't seem to work, it
> only does with chroot to the mounted root of sda and with a bind to
> the mounted boot of sda, however partially since it doesn't get to
> read stage2.  Running manually grub over the chroot seems to overcome
> the stage2 thing, but I still don't get grub to work after booting.

You're on the right track, I remember getting it to work from approximately 
that point, I just can't remember what I had to change to get it to work from 
there.

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Re: problems installing openoffice.org in etch

[Marcelo Chiapparini]

Florian Kulzer wrote:

On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 11:51:17 -0300, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:

Florian Kulzer wrote:

On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 17:56:24 -0300, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:

Florian Kulzer wrote:

On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 16:38:13 -0300, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:


[...]

Hi! follows a copy of my /etc/apt/sources.list file. Just in 
case, I am  using the amd64 port of etch...


deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian etch main contrib non-free

That should work; this mirror has the .deb file right here:
http://http.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/s/stlport4.6/libstlport4.6c2_4.6.2-3_amd64.deb

What happens if you run "aptitude update"? Are there any error messages?


Here it is, no error messages:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo aptitude update

[ lines not pertaining to http.us.debian.org removed ]


Get:1 http://http.us.debian.org etch Release.gpg [378B]
Hit http://http.us.debian.org etch Release
Ign http://http.us.debian.org etch/main Packages/DiffIndex
Ign http://http.us.debian.org etch/contrib Packages/DiffIndex
Ign http://http.us.debian.org etch/non-free Packages/DiffIndex
Hit http://http.us.debian.org etch/main Packages
Hit http://http.us.debian.org etch/contrib Packages
Hit http://http.us.debian.org etch/non-free Packages

That does look OK indeed. Do you now see the package available with
"apt-cache policy libstlport4.6c2"?

Hi Florian,

here is the output. The package is still missing:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-cache policy libstlport4.6c2
libstlport4.6c2:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: (none)
  Version table:
 4.6.2-3 0
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

What about installing libstlport4.6c2 by hand? downloading the .deb file  
and using dpkg -i? of course, I will have to care about dependences by  
hand too. Does this make sense?


That is possible, but it will be a lot of work to download all the
dependencies (and the dependencies of the dependencies, etc.) yourself.

I use synaptic for installing packages. Yesterday, when I ran synaptic,  
it complained about a dependence problem, asking to use "Fix broken  
packages" before installing anything. After that, the problem with the  
installation of openoffice begun. May be both things are related? I  
don't know...


I would like to know how long the Packages file for http.us.debian.org
is on your system. Please post the output of:

ls -lh 
/var/lib/apt/lists/http.us.debian.org_debian_dists_stable_main_binary-amd64_Packages


Florian, I have that file with "etch" in the place of "stable". So:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls -lh
/var/lib/apt/lists/http.us.debian.org_debian_dists_etch_main_binary-amd64_Packages
-rw-r--r-- 1 root marcelo 2.3M 2008-05-19 10:33
/var/lib/apt/lists/http.us.debian.org_debian_dists_etch_main_binary-amd64_Packages


Also, you can check if this file lists the libstlport4.6c2 package:

grep -A7 '^Package: libstlport4.6c2' 
/var/lib/apt/lists/http.us.debian.org_debian_dists_stable_main_binary-amd64_Packages


Nothing is returned:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ grep -A7 '^Package: libstlport4.6c2'
/var/lib/apt/lists/http.us.debian.org_debian_dists_etch_main_binary-amd64_Packages
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$


Other things you can try:

Maybe there is a problem with the Packages file on your computer and it
does not get corrected because apt(itude) only downloads the index file
diffs by default. You can force a new download of the whole Packages
file with this:

aptitude -o Acquire::PDiffs=false update


Follows the output:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo aptitude -o Acquire::PDiffs=false update
Get:1 http://security.debian.org etch/updates Release.gpg [189B]
Get:2 http://security.debian.org etch/updates Release [37.6kB]
Get:3 http://http.us.debian.org etch Release.gpg [378B]
Hit http://http.us.debian.org etch Release
Hit http://http.us.debian.org etch/main Packages
Get:4 http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch Release.gpg [189B]
Get:5 http://security.debian.org etch/updates/main Packages [254kB]
Hit http://http.us.debian.org etch/contrib Packages
Hit http://http.us.debian.org etch/non-free Packages
Get:6 http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch Release [9434B]
Get:7 http://www.backports.org etch-backports Release.gpg [189B]
Get:8 http://www.backports.org etch-backports Release [43.7kB]
Hit http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch/main Packages
Hit http://security.debian.org etch/updates/contrib Packages
Hit http://security.debian.org etch/updates/non-free Packages
Get:9 http://security.debian.org etch/updates/main Sources [40.7kB]
Get:10 http://www.backports.org etch-backports/main Packages [315kB]
Hit http://security.debian.org etch/updates/contrib Sources
Hit http://security.debian.org etch/updates/non-free Sources
Hit http://www.backports.org etch-backports/contrib Packages
Hit http://www.backports.org etch-backports/non-free Packages
Fetched 700kB in 47s (14.8kB/s)
Reading package lists... Done

After this, libstlport4.6c2 is still missing...

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ grep -A7 '^Package: libstlport4.6c2'
/var/lib/apt/lists/http.us.debian.org_debian_dists_et

Re: problems installing openoffice.org in etch

[Marcelo Chiapparini]

Mumia W.. wrote:

On 05/20/2008 09:51 AM, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:

Florian Kulzer wrote:

On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 17:56:24 -0300, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:

Florian Kulzer wrote:

On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 16:38:13 -0300, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:

Florian Kulzer wrote:

On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 15:01:49 -0300, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:

Florian Kulzer wrote:

On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 14:02:44 -0300, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:

[...]

Thank you very much for the advice. However, I am still having 
the same  problem: 'aptitude remove --purge ' does 
not fix the problem.  The problem with the unmet dependencies


libstlport4.6c2
libservlet2.3-java
libxt-java
libmdbtools
libportaudio0


[...]

Hi! follows a copy of my /etc/apt/sources.list file. Just in case, 
I am  using the amd64 port of etch...


deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian etch main contrib non-free

That should work; this mirror has the .deb file right here:
http://http.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/s/stlport4.6/libstlport4.6c2_4.6.2-3_amd64.deb 



What happens if you run "aptitude update"? Are there any error 
messages?



Here it is, no error messages:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo aptitude update


[ lines not pertaining to http.us.debian.org removed ]


Get:1 http://http.us.debian.org etch Release.gpg [378B]
Hit http://http.us.debian.org etch Release
Ign http://http.us.debian.org etch/main Packages/DiffIndex
Ign http://http.us.debian.org etch/contrib Packages/DiffIndex
Ign http://http.us.debian.org etch/non-free Packages/DiffIndex
Hit http://http.us.debian.org etch/main Packages
Hit http://http.us.debian.org etch/contrib Packages
Hit http://http.us.debian.org etch/non-free Packages


That does look OK indeed. Do you now see the package available with
"apt-cache policy libstlport4.6c2"?


Hi Florian,

here is the output. The package is still missing:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-cache policy libstlport4.6c2
libstlport4.6c2:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: (none)
  Version table:
 4.6.2-3 0
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

What about installing libstlport4.6c2 by hand? downloading the .deb 
file and using dpkg -i? of course, I will have to care about 
dependences by hand too. Does this make sense?




You shouldn't have to do that.

I use synaptic for installing packages. Yesterday, when I ran 
synaptic, it complained about a dependence problem, asking to use "Fix 
broken packages" before installing anything. After that, the problem 
with the installation of openoffice begun. May be both things are 
related? I don't know...


thanks a lot for your time!



Something seems to be broken with your apt system. Please don't muss 
your system on my account, but I would delete (or move) everything in 
/var/cache/apt/* . Those things should be recreated by the next 
"aptitude update" (and possibly "apt-file update").


The way I see it, you've performed all the steps necessary to get 
libstlport4.6c2 recognized by apt-get as an installation option, so 
something must be wrong with apt.


Do this:

cd /var/cache/apt
mkdir /var/trash.d
mv /var/cache/apt/* /var/trash.d/
aptitude update


Then do the "apt-cache policy libstlport4.6c2" again. The package should 
appear this time. If not, I'm mystified.


OK! I will try this and let you know. Thank you very much for the 
suggestion.


Marcelo




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Re: .xsession-errors query

[jamie]

[ Charset ISO-8859-1 converted... ]
> On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 10:48 PM, jamie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > I wanted to ask a question about the file ".xsession-errors", namely its
> > contents.
> >
> > Inside this file in my home directory is see this:
> >
> > X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3
> >  Major opcode:  19
> >Minor opcode:  0
> >  Resource id:  0x228
> >  X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3
> >Major opcode:  19
> >  Minor opcode:  0
> >Resource id:  0x182
> >X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3
> >  Major opcode:  19
> >Minor opcode:  0
> >  Resource id:  0x1c8
> >  X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3
> >Major opcode:  20
> >  Minor opcode:  0
> >Resource id:  0x1c8
> >
> > I don't know what this means and if it's something i should be worried
> > about. I wondered if anyone could explain it to me and advise if there's
> > anything i need to do to stop these error messages.
> >
> > Many thanks.
> >
> > Jamie
> 
> Hey,
> 
> I really wouldn't worry about those errors. Most likely cause is some
> minor program bugs, and thats  the problem of individual application
> developers, in fact at a glance, they strike as the type of bugs that
> are so minor that nobody is going to bother fixing because its just
> not worth the effort.
> -- 
> Jamie
> 
> (p.s. I think the fact I got exactly same name as you may cause some
> confusion! In fact, reading you message rather caught me out, because
> you even seem to use the same posting format as me... )

Hi Jamie

Thanks for putting my mind at rest. Just thought i should check it out,
just in case.

Jamie


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Re: Mail not getting to DU

[Wayne Topa]

Ron Johnson([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:

> The only seemingly significant differences are that you have []
> around your relayhost, and mynetworks is 127.0.0.0/8.  For some
> now-unremembered reason, I had to change it to 192.168.1.0/24.
> Also, I don't see a relay_domains in your main.cf.

Test with mynetworks = 192.168.1.0/24

I took the relay_domains out when I discovered this problem.  Figured
on less thing to troubleshoot.

Lets see if this works now.

Wayne

PS:  Here is the mail log for that mailMay 20 18:31:31 buddy 
postfix/cleanup[21660]: 04C1B4E009B: 
message-id=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
May 20 18:31:31 buddy postfix/qmgr[21642]: 04C1B4E009B: 
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to=, 
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m4KMVVlf041768 Message accepted for delivery)

May 20 18:31:33 buddy postfix/qmgr[21642]: 04C1B4E009B: removed

O O  This was sent with a mail header of [EMAIL PROTECTED] but the
above shows my user name.  Humm  My alias file shows my 4 different email
accounts as wtopa:linuxone
same format for the other 3 accounts.  muttrc sets the correct header.  Humm


PSS: I don't think it made it.  This copy sent via icedove, again.

I am trying  Kevin Monceaux and Florian Kulzer suggestions regarding
using mutt to send to the list.

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Re: [debian-user] How to copy a laptop HD?

[Javier Vasquez]

On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 3:07 PM, Jochen Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Javier Vasquez:
>>
>> Do you suggest using "dd" instead?  Would it work even if the destine
>> partition is bigger (I read somewhere it works perfectly when source
>> and destine are the same size, but I never read it works perfectly
>> when destine is bigger)...
>
> Yes, it works. You have to resize your filesystems afterwards, but
> that's not a biggie.
>
>> What about the HD MBR?  I've tried already using "dd if=/dev/hda
>> of=~/full_mbr.bin bs=512 count=1 && dd if=~/full_mbr.bin of=/dev/sda
>> bs=446 count=1", but it didn't seem to work...
>
> Why do you only copy 446 Bytes back?

That's what I read is necessary, since the last 64+2 bytes of the 1st
512  bytes correspond to the partition table, which shouldn't be
copied over I believe.  An example of such warning can be found:

http://www.sysdesign.ca/guides/partitions.html
http://www.unix.com/unix-dummies-questions-answers/24885-how-copy-mbr-old-harddrive-new-harddrive.html

Well, I'm not sure anymore then...

>
>> I wouldn't know if
>> using count=2 to include the boot sector would work since the boot
>> partition is the 2nd one (the swap is the 1st one)...
>
> It doesn't matter where your boot partition is. You only need the MBR
> (the first 512 Bytes, AFAIK, which you already copied.)

Sure the whole 512 1st bytes are required?  I think they include the
partition table, which is what I tried to avoid, but I might be wrong,
:).

>> The thing is that as this is a laptop, and changing the HD on the only
>> IDE slot is getting less fun each time, I was thinking what would be a
>> good recipy to follow.  Maybe using dd for each partition, or for the
>> whole HD would work, although I find it hard to believe it would (the
>> partition tables at least should be different, since the difference in
>> sizes), but I just might be too skeptical, and using dd for the whole
>> HD is what works out of the box after partitioning the HD, :).
>
> No, you're right about your skepticism. dd'ing the whole disc will also
> copy the partition table which you probably don't want.
>
> You only need to:
>
> - Partition the new disk to your liking.
>
> - dd filesystems from old partitions to the new ones. Make sure to use a
>  big number for the block size like bs=1M or more. That will speed up
>  the process. While dd is working, you can send the dd process a USR1
>  signal (like 'kill -USR1 $pid') to make it print a report about its
>  current progress.
>
> - Copy the MBR using 'dd if=/dev/in of=/dev/out bs=512 count=1'.
>
> - Use resize2fs or whatever suits your filesystems to grow them up to
>  the capacity of their partition.
>
> - Swap disks and reboot.
>
> At least, that's how it should work in theory. :)
>
> J.


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Re: [debian-user] How to copy a laptop HD?

[Javier Vasquez]

On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 4:27 PM, Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tuesday 20 May 2008 01:47:03 pm Javier Vasquez wrote:
>> I did a copy of the contents of each partitions, except by /proc under
>> root, into the new created ones, but I used "cp -a" instead of "dd".
>> This might have prevented copying the boot sector, necessary for the
>> boot sector probably...
>>
>> Do you suggest using "dd" instead?  Would it work even if the destine
>> partition is bigger (I read somewhere it works perfectly when source
>> and destine are the same size, but I never read it works perfectly
>> when destine is bigger)...
>
> You did it the right way the first time.  dd only works with same-size block
> devices anyway.
>
>> What about the HD MBR?  I've tried already using "dd if=/dev/hda
>> of=~/full_mbr.bin bs=512 count=1 && dd if=~/full_mbr.bin of=/dev/sda
>> bs=446 count=1", but it didn't seem to work...  I wouldn't know if
>> using count=2 to include the boot sector would work since the boot
>> partition is the 2nd one (the swap is the 1st one)...
>
> Don't try to copy it, reinstall it.  Less messy, less prone to failure.

You mean grub-install it?  I couldn't...  For some reason grub doesn't
even find the stage1 file after running something similar to
"grub-install --root-directory /mnt/sda-boot /dev/sda".  So I tried
chroot to /mnt/sda-root (I also made the bind between /mnt/sda-boot
and /mnt-sda-root/boot) and run "grub-install --root-directory /boot
/dev/sda" and it worked better but now the stage2 file is not found by
grub...  So yet under chroot, I did a search for /boot/grub/stage2,
and it was found under (hd0,4) or (hd0,5), so then I did "root
(hd0,4)", and then setup (hd0), and it said it finished successfully,
but that was all a lie, since I rebooted and I had the same thing as
when copying the MBR, a whole lot of "grub" words filling up the
screen.  So I have tried everything that had occurred to me and that
have read on the web, and at least just by "grub-install", or plane
grub, I don't seem to find a solution.

I you meant even more time consuming installing the distribution
again, just basic stuff to then override everything with the other
disk, except by the MBR and probably the /bott/grub directory, then I
don't feel pretty much up to it.  I'd like to go other paths 1st, :).


>> Any ways, I'm still on trials, but I haven't gotten grub to work yet.
>> I tried also "grub-install" on sda, but that doesn't seem to work, it
>> only does with chroot to the mounted root of sda and with a bind to
>> the mounted boot of sda, however partially since it doesn't get to
>> read stage2.  Running manually grub over the chroot seems to overcome
>> the stage2 thing, but I still don't get grub to work after booting.
>
> You're on the right track, I remember getting it to work from approximately
> that point, I just can't remember what I had to change to get it to work from
> there.
>
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I've heard something interesting, although as the destine HD is
bigger, I don't know if something might get wrong at the end any ways,
:)...  Blank the bigger new disk, copy bit to bit the smaller old HD
(whole) into the newer bigger one (not sure if the copied partition
table would still work, but if all it does is leave free space after
the last partition, then that sounds OK, but I think that's not the
whole story since the cylinders shouldn't be the same, or at least at
thought so).  Then if things worked, it would be a matter of resizing
the last partition, which is the root one, :)...  Not sure if that'd
work though...

Before trying this last thing I heard, I'd like to try then copying th
whole 512 1st bytes of the old HD, just in case that'd work (I
understand that'll inlcude the partition table though).  Any ways,
just thinking about what to try next when I'm back home, :)...


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Re: Anti-gaming Behaviour of Keyboard Driver

[Dmitryi & Elf]

Out of curiousity, does this happen with Nexuiz as well?

- Jordi G. H.



Not installed.


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Re: Anti-gaming Behaviour of Keyboard Driver

[Dmitryi & Elf]

Uhm...in my case I don't think it's the same issue. For some reason I
can't strafe backwards; this is, the combination of backpedal+strafe
works, but it doesn't get any more input, so I can't jump.


It does seem like the same issue. Snag is, shift also modifies keycodes.  
The only usable modifier key is [Alt]; as an experiment, you could try  
binding [Alt] to +attack ("fire" in some other engine), and activate  
"always run" (+speed in the console for regular Quake; running will be on  
until -speed is issued). With a couple keys bound to +strafeleft/right,  
and a non-modifier key bound to "jump", the layout should allow jumping  
too.


The working layout is: [Z], [X] - strafe left/right; [Alt] - +attack;  
cursor arrows - move forward/backward, turn left/right; [A] - jump.



I thought
it was a limitation of my keyboard...


No, it's a limitation of either SDL, X, Linux keyboard driver, or Quake  
source itself, either of which can't recognise/filter key scancodes  
modified with [Control] and [Shift]. [Alt]-modified keycodes seem to be  
filtered correctly though.



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Re: Mail not getting to DU

[Wayne Topa]

Kevin & Florian

 Thanks for pointing out the mutt SMTP feature.  I wish I could
use it.  My (brain dead) ISP does not support any of the authentication
options supported by the smtp_authenticators option.

 Yep, I know I should switch ISP's.  Maybe now is the time

Thanks again

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apt & cdrom repository

[John Knops]

Hi,
I want to download various debs to my home directory to be burnt latter
to a cd for use on an older computer which will not be connected to the
internet. At the moment I'm downloading all debs, including dependencies
manually one at a time. To speed up the process I've tried to use
¨apt-get -d -o dir::cache= ~/Tmp/deb install ¨ without any luck.
I'm obviously using the wrong options but can't think of any others to 
try.Can someone tell me what I should be doing.


I'm running ubuntu on my box, is this the root of the problem.
Thanks,
 JohnK.


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problem with ldap ssh and password auth

[Alex Samad]

Hi

I have most of my users in ldap, I would like to allow password
authentication, but I do not want to use usePAM, because pam uses
pam_env (which loads up /etc/default/locale), this is turn overrights
any LANG env sent from the ssh client.

Password auth works when i use usepam but i loose my LANG (unless i
remove the offending pam_env statement)

when I remove usePAM password authentication doesn't work - it takes the 
password but fails to authenticate

i am guessing this is because my userid is in ldap

any one else have this problem ?

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screen resolution question

[Glenn Becker]

Hi all -

I am running a testing box. Recently, it seems, my X settings 
changed (w/o my intentionally changing them, at least as far as I can 
recall) so that the screen resolution on Gnome, for example, it was 
defaulting to 1400x1050. It is nice to see that my older laptop can 
handle this, but ... I also have older eyes and prefer a setting of 
1024x768.


So I went looking into the xorg.conf file, and found that ... no default 
screen res appeared to be set! In fact the file contains almost _no_ 
details and consists mainly of a lot of sections that look like this:


Section "Device"
Identifier  "Configured Video Device"

... making it look like a lot of the X configuration is handled 
automatically.


Well, great ... cough ... I would rather it _wasn't_ handled 
automatically, because I want to choose my own settings. I've handrolled 
my own .conf files for X for ages ... is there any way for me to do this 
and not have my settings overwritten by an automated thingum that has no 
idea what my specific needs are?


If this is an attempt at an improvement I cannot say I care much for it. 
Certainly I can change the settings via the Gnome GUI, but this doesn't 
help me if (as often happens on my old machine) I'd rather just run 
Fluxbox.


Sorry if this is an ignorant question and has been asked before. If I need 
to RTFM, just let me know where to find the relevant M and I will RTF 
thing.


Thx,

Glenn

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Cloning hda to new internal disk (was Re: [debian-user] How to copy a laptop HD?)

[Ron Johnson]

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> Have a look at partimage. Specifically you might be interested in the 
> CloneZilla live distro. It's built specifically for the purpose of porting 
> installations between hard disks. 

In a similar vein to OP's question, I am going to buy a new boot
disk, because my hda is old enough -- and drives are cheap enough --
that I'd rather replace it before it fails.

So I checked out CloneZilla, but it seems to be aimed at
institutional use.  Even partimage seems to need an intermediary step.

Is there any way to directly clone /dev/hda to /dev/sdX, so that I
can then boot off of /dev/sdX?

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Re: screen resolution question

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On 05/20/08 20:45, Glenn Becker wrote:
> 
> Hi all -
> 
> I am running a testing box. Recently, it seems, my X settings changed
> (w/o my intentionally changing them, at least as far as I can recall) so
> that the screen resolution on Gnome, for example, it was defaulting to
> 1400x1050. It is nice to see that my older laptop can handle this, but
> ... I also have older eyes and prefer a setting of 1024x768.
> 
> So I went looking into the xorg.conf file, and found that ... no default
> screen res appeared to be set! In fact the file contains almost _no_
> details and consists mainly of a lot of sections that look like this:
> 
> Section "Device"
> Identifier  "Configured Video Device"
> 
> ... making it look like a lot of the X configuration is handled
> automatically.
> 
> Well, great ... cough ... I would rather it _wasn't_ handled
> automatically, because I want to choose my own settings. I've handrolled
> my own .conf files for X for ages ... is there any way for me to do this
> and not have my settings overwritten by an automated thingum that has no
> idea what my specific needs are?
> 
> If this is an attempt at an improvement I cannot say I care much for it.
> Certainly I can change the settings via the Gnome GUI, but this doesn't
> help me if (as often happens on my old machine) I'd rather just run
> Fluxbox.
> 
> Sorry if this is an ignorant question and has been asked before. If I
> need to RTFM, just let me know where to find the relevant M and I will
> RTF thing.

So there's no /Section "Screen"/?

Mine looks like this:

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Default Screen"
#Device "nVidia Corporation Unknown"
Monitor"GatewayVX112"
Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals"   "true"
Option "DisableGLXRootClipping" "True"
DefaultDepth   24
SubSection "Display"
Depth   1
Modes  "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth   4
Modes  "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth   8
Modes  "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth   15
Modes  "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth   16
Modes  "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth   24
Modes  "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
EndSection

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Re: [debian-user] How to copy a laptop HD?

[Raj Kiran Grandhi]

Javier Vasquez wrote:


You mean grub-install it?  I couldn't...  For some reason grub doesn't
even find the stage1 file after running something similar to
"grub-install --root-directory /mnt/sda-boot /dev/sda".  So I tried
chroot to /mnt/sda-root (I also made the bind between /mnt/sda-boot
and /mnt-sda-root/boot) and run "grub-install --root-directory /boot
/dev/sda" and it worked better but now the stage2 file is not found by
grub...  So yet under chroot, I did a search for /boot/grub/stage2,
and it was found under (hd0,4) or (hd0,5), so then I did "root
(hd0,4)", and then setup (hd0), and it said it finished successfully,
but that was all a lie, since I rebooted and I had the same thing as
when copying the MBR, a whole lot of "grub" words filling up the
screen.  So I have tried everything that had occurred to me and that
have read on the web, and at least just by "grub-install", or plane
grub, I don't seem to find a solution.


Ensure that you have copies all the files from your existing /boot 
partition to the new /boot partition. Then unmount your existing /boot 
and mount the new partition at /boot. Then run grub-install /dev/sda. 
You may want to fix the menu.lst file so that the groot points to your 
new disk.


I always prefer this option instead of dd.


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Re: apt & cdrom repository

[Raj Kiran Grandhi]

John Knops wrote:

Hi,
I want to download various debs to my home directory to be burnt latter
to a cd for use on an older computer which will not be connected to the
internet. At the moment I'm downloading all debs, including dependencies
manually one at a time. To speed up the process I've tried to use
¨apt-get -d -o dir::cache= ~/Tmp/deb install ¨ without any luck.
I'm obviously using the wrong options but can't think of any others to 
try.Can someone tell me what I should be doing.


I'm running ubuntu on my box, is this the root of the problem.
Thanks,
 JohnK.




Maybe apt-zip what you are looking for? I have not used it, but it 
claims to ease the process of keeping a non-networked machine up-to-date.


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Re: Cloning hda to new internal disk (was Re: [debian-user] How to copy a laptop HD?)

[Raj Kiran Grandhi]

Ron Johnson wrote:

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On 05/20/08 15:55, Lee Glidewell wrote:
Have a look at partimage. Specifically you might be interested in the 
CloneZilla live distro. It's built specifically for the purpose of porting 
installations between hard disks. 


In a similar vein to OP's question, I am going to buy a new boot
disk, because my hda is old enough -- and drives are cheap enough --
that I'd rather replace it before it fails.

So I checked out CloneZilla, but it seems to be aimed at
institutional use.  Even partimage seems to need an intermediary step.

Is there any way to directly clone /dev/hda to /dev/sdX, so that I
can then boot off of /dev/sdX?


If you can boot some live system, you can just partition your new disk, 
mount them all, copy all your files over, fix /etc/fstab and 
/boot/grub/menu.lst, mount the new boot partition at /boot and run 
grub-install /dev/sda. With this approach, you are free to change your 
partitioning scheme.


Alternatively, if your new partitions have the same layout but larger, 
then you can use dd to clone each partition individualy, do a resize2fs 
on each of them, then fix fstab and menu.lst before running a grub-install.






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Re: [debian-user] How to copy a laptop HD?

[kellybelly]

Check out this website:
www.crazytrain.com/dd.html
www.crazytrain.com/dd2.html

It contains very useful information on using dd to copy hard drives.

dd is a bit-by-bit copy of your hard drive, or a hard drive partition.  It 
will copy everything on the drive, included deleted files.



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Re: screen resolution question

[Raj Kiran Grandhi]

Glenn Becker wrote:


Hi all -

I am running a testing box. Recently, it seems, my X settings changed 
(w/o my intentionally changing them, at least as far as I can recall) so 
that the screen resolution on Gnome, for example, it was defaulting to 
1400x1050. It is nice to see that my older laptop can handle this, but 
... I also have older eyes and prefer a setting of 1024x768.


AFAIK dpkg saves a backup of the xorg.conf file suffixed with the 
date/time of modification. Just try replacing the exisiting xorg.conf 
with the backup.




So I went looking into the xorg.conf file, and found that ... no default 
screen res appeared to be set! In fact the file contains almost _no_ 
details and consists mainly of a lot of sections that look like this:


Section "Device"
Identifier  "Configured Video Device"

... making it look like a lot of the X configuration is handled 
automatically.


Well, great ... cough ... I would rather it _wasn't_ handled 
automatically, because I want to choose my own settings. I've handrolled 
my own .conf files for X for ages ... is there any way for me to do this 
and not have my settings overwritten by an automated thingum that has no 
idea what my specific needs are?


If this is an attempt at an improvement I cannot say I care much for it. 
Certainly I can change the settings via the Gnome GUI, but this doesn't 
help me if (as often happens on my old machine) I'd rather just run 
Fluxbox.


Sorry if this is an ignorant question and has been asked before. If I 
need to RTFM, just let me know where to find the relevant M and I will 
RTF thing.


Thx,

Glenn

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Re: Anti-gaming Behaviour of Keyboard Driver

[Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso]

On 20/05/2008, Dmitryi & Elf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Out of curiousity, does this happen with Nexuiz as well?

>  Not installed.
>

Uhm, so aptitude install nexuiz.

It would be interesting to know if other Quake or modified Quake
engines also experience this problem.

Also, do you have an xmodmap active?

- Jordi G. H.


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Re: Cloning hda to new internal disk (was Re: [debian-user] How to copy a laptop HD?)

[Ron Johnson]

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Gmail *sucks*, because it screws up reply nesting.  I have to
manually fix it so that people (including me) how use sane MUAs can
read it properly.

On 05/20/08 21:50, Raj Kiran Grandhi wrote:
> Ron Johnson wrote:
>> On 05/20/08 15:55, Lee Glidewell wrote:
>>> Have a look at partimage. Specifically you might be interested in the
>>> CloneZilla live distro. It's built specifically for the purpose of
>>> porting installations between hard disks. 
> 
>> In a similar vein to OP's question, I am going to buy a new boot
>> disk, because my hda is old enough -- and drives are cheap enough --
>> that I'd rather replace it before it fails.
>> 
>> So I checked out CloneZilla, but it seems to be aimed at
>> institutional use.  Even partimage seems to need an intermediary step.
> 
>> Is there any way to directly clone /dev/hda to /dev/sdX, so that I
>> can then boot off of /dev/sdX?
> 
> If you can boot some live system, you can just partition your new disk,
> mount them all, copy all your files over, fix /etc/fstab and

I've tried doing what you suggest, but cp leaves absolute symlinks
still pointing to the original files on the source device.

> /boot/grub/menu.lst, mount the new boot partition at /boot and run
> grub-install /dev/sda. With this approach, you are free to change your
> partitioning scheme.
> 
> Alternatively, if your new partitions have the same layout but larger,
> then you can use dd to clone each partition individualy, do a resize2fs
> on each of them, then fix fstab and menu.lst before running a grub-install.

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Re: Cloning hda to new internal disk (was Re: [debian-user] How to copy a laptop HD?)

[Lee Glidewell]

On Tuesday 20 May 2008 07:20:17 pm Ron Johnson wrote:
> In a similar vein to OP's question, I am going to buy a new boot
> disk, because my hda is old enough -- and drives are cheap enough --
> that I'd rather replace it before it fails.
>
> So I checked out CloneZilla, but it seems to be aimed at
> institutional use.  Even partimage seems to need an intermediary step.
>
> Is there any way to directly clone /dev/hda to /dev/sdX, so that I
> can then boot off of /dev/sdX?
>
Yes, CloneZilla is capable of doing that. The default behavior is to create a 
full disk image, including the MBR and partition table, so if you use 
the "disk-to-disk" option you'll end with a ready-to-use, bootable hard disk. 

By "intermediary step" I'm guessing that you meant the compressed (gzip) disk 
image partimage can create -- but that's optional. There is the option to 
simply clone one disk onto another.

Lee


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Re: Tab in Java

[Marc Shapiro]

Dotan Cohen wrote:

There is now an English-language demo of the Java applet, but it takes
some work to get to.
I would have expected better of Technion!  If this is actually a java 
problem then they should use something else.  If this is not a java 
problem, then Technion ought to have better programmers.  I don't 
program in java, so I don't know which it is.  Either way, though, it's 
pretty lousy.  I don't have problems using a mouse, but there are times 
when using the keyboard is simply easier, or more convenient.  I find 
that demo to be awkward to use and would have appreciated the ability to 
tab from one field to another, or to simply press enter after entering 
the answer in the only field on the form.  It took me at least twice as 
long to get through the demo as it should have.


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Re: Cloning hda to new internal disk (was Re: [debian-user] How to copy a laptop HD?)

[Ron Johnson]

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On 05/20/08 22:06, Lee Glidewell wrote:
> On Tuesday 20 May 2008 07:20:17 pm Ron Johnson wrote:
>> In a similar vein to OP's question, I am going to buy a new boot
>> disk, because my hda is old enough -- and drives are cheap enough --
>> that I'd rather replace it before it fails.
>>
>> So I checked out CloneZilla, but it seems to be aimed at
>> institutional use.  Even partimage seems to need an intermediary step.
>>
>> Is there any way to directly clone /dev/hda to /dev/sdX, so that I
>> can then boot off of /dev/sdX?
>>
> Yes, CloneZilla is capable of doing that. The default behavior is to create a 
> full disk image, including the MBR and partition table, so if you use 
> the "disk-to-disk" option you'll end with a ready-to-use, bootable hard disk. 
> 
> By "intermediary step" I'm guessing that you meant the compressed (gzip) disk 
> image partimage can create -- but that's optional. There is the option to 
> simply clone one disk onto another.

Thanks.  I must have missed that...

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Re: Cloning hda to new internal disk (was Re: [debian-user] How to copy a laptop HD?)

[David Fox]

On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 7:20 PM, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is there any way to directly clone /dev/hda to /dev/sdX, so that I
> can then boot off of /dev/sdX?

I'll probably do the mount and cp -R trick, after partitioning with a
live system, fairly soon, since I just blew some $$$ at Fry's on new
system components (ECS 6100-pn-m motherboard / 2x AMD 64 combo, 5200
mhz, plus a sata 500g drive) - to replace a now  7 year old aging
Athlon tbird setup.

Along the same tangent, I will likely be going to amd64 lenny along
with this, so I've gone and put out my dpkg selections to a file I can
read later after perhaps getting a netinstall image or some such of
debian lenny for an amd64.

I also have ubuntu HH 8.04 cd for amd64, plus I sucked down a dvd of
sabayon 3.5 for amd64 earlier this morning, so I should be set.


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Re: Cloning hda to new internal disk (was Re: [debian-user] How to copy a laptop HD?)

[Owen Townend]

On 05/20/08 21:50, Raj Kiran Grandhi wrote:
> Ron Johnson wrote:
>> Is there any way to directly clone /dev/hda to /dev/sdX, so that I
>> can then boot off of /dev/sdX?
>
> If you can boot some live system, you can just partition your new disk,
> mount them all, copy all your files over, fix /etc/fstab and
> I've tried doing what you suggest, but cp leaves absolute symlinks
>  still pointing to the original files on the source device.
>
>

Hey,
  You should be able to boot a livecd with both disks installed and
perform the copy. The easiest way would be to have the new disk have
the same partition layout, whether larger sizes or not doesn't matter.
  Create your partitions and you should then be able to directly dd
the partitions.

  e.g. Assuming the new partitions (on sdb) are >= the old ones (on sda) and
  sda1=/boot sda2=/ sda3=/home, all ext3.
  (need swap too, but don't need to copy it)
  Then something like this _should_ work[1]:

#  for i in '1 2 3';
  do dd if=/dev/sda${i} of=/dev/sdb${i} bs=1M
  resize2fs /dev/sdb${i}
done
# mount /dev/sda2 /mnt
# mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/boot
# mount -o bind /dev /mnt/dev
# mount -t proc none /mnt/proc
# chroot /mnt
# grub install /dev/sdb
# exit

  If you're adding the new disk rather than replacing the old one then
you'll have to edit grub's menu.1st to change the devices to sdb (prob
hd1), if it's using uuid's you'll have to do so anyway.
  There are plenty of grub tutorials around, easily found by searching
for 'restore grub windows' as windows is a common culprit for nuking
grub and the restore process is the same.

cheers,
Owen.

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Re: [debian-user] How to copy a laptop HD?

[Jochen Schulz]

Javier Vasquez:
> On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 3:07 PM, Jochen Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>> Why do you only copy 446 Bytes back?
> 
> That's what I read is necessary, since the last 64+2 bytes of the 1st
> 512  bytes correspond to the partition table, which shouldn't be
> copied over I believe.  An example of such warning can be found:
> 
> http://www.sysdesign.ca/guides/partitions.html
> http://www.unix.com/unix-dummies-questions-answers/24885-how-copy-mbr-old-harddrive-new-harddrive.html
>
> Well, I'm not sure anymore then...

Me neither. :) Without looking into the articles, I trust them more to
be correct about this than I trust myself on this matter. However, it
should still be an option to copy the MBR first and partition the drive
afterwards. But of course that leaves the question why it didn't work on
your first try.

Did you edit grub's menu list to reflect your partition changes?

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