upgrading to VMWare Server 1.0.5 on kernel 2.6.24-1

2008-03-29 Thread Γιώργος Πάλλας
For those of you who upgraded to the latest lenny kernel 2.6.24-1 and
found out that not only vmware server 1.0.5 (released a couple of days
ago) does not install, but the usual vmware-any-any update does not help:

http://www.debian-administration.org/users/gpall/weblog/5

Cheers,
G.


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Re: Gnome power manager + custom suspend script

2008-03-29 Thread Michael Biebl
David Purton wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> What is the proper way to use custom suspend scripts with gnome power
> manager?
> 
> Current, I call my custom script from
> /usr/lib/hal/scripts/hal-system-power-suspend
> 
> This works, but the changes get overwritten every time this file is
> upgraded...
> 
> (I need a custom script, because my laptop will not suspend with
> whatever the default is. Beats me why. I use a script from here
> http://www.linux.com/feature/114220
> It's pretty generic, so why the defaut gnome one can't do this seems
> odd.
> 

Use pm-utils.

See http://en.opensuse.org/Pm-utils -> "Creating your own hooks".
or the pm-suspend man page.

HTH,
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Re: no sound on compaq armada 7770dmt with ess-1878 sound card

2008-03-29 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 07:00:25PM -0700, joseph lockhart wrote:
> well i have been working on getting an old compaq
> armada 7770dmt up and running with debian etch 4.0r2.
> everything works good, only i cannot get alsa to find
> the sound card at boot, sound card is a ess-1878.
> 
> added the sound module to /boot/modules but that
> didn't seem to help, checked alsa manpage and that
> allowed me to check the right mod but suggested adding
> the mod to /boot/modules which didn't help. any other
 ^

That should be /etc/modules.

What happens when you run alsaconf? Let it run all the way through, i.e.
let it probe for legacy cards, let it keep running, it has to probe irq
and dma channels.

If this doesn't work, you will need to get the irq and dma from the bios
and configure using the modconf utility.

Sorry I cannot remember the syntax for the parameter line. :-(

Ask here again if you get stuck, but please provide the results of what
you have tried.

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Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-03-29 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 08:30:16PM -0700, Daniel Burrows wrote:
> are searching for completely unrelated terms (say, "Barack Obama" or
> "gravid platypus" [0]) more than they used to.
> 
>   Daniel
> 
>   [0] I think the next Ubuntu release should be named "gravid platypus",
>   don't you?  ;-)
>

They tend to use the same first letter, so "gravid gorilla" or "poncy
platypus"?

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Re: /etc/hosts + resolvconf (was Re: associating names and addresses)

2008-03-29 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 09:39:22PM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 12:22:41PM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# apt-cache policy resolvconf
> > resolvconf:
> >   Installed: (none)
> > [..]
> > 
> > So thats ok? But If resolvconf is installed then /etc/hosts should be:
> > 
> > 127.0.0.1   localhost.localdomain localhost
> > 
> > Is that correct?
> 
> The way I look at it is thus:
> 
> If the box is stand-alone, not on any network, and you want to give it a
> name other than "localhost", then just do:
> 
> 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost fred
> 
>   with "fred" in /etc/hostname.
> 
> If the box is stand-alone with dial-up ppp to the internet, just do the
> same thing.
> 
> However, once you have a NIC and have an interface other than lo, then
> assign the box's hostname to that NIC, e.g:
> 
> 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost
> 192.168.0.1   fred
> 
> And if there is any chance of expanding your network in the future, give
> yourself a domain name now:
> 192.168.0.1   fred.myhome fred
> 
> Having the resolvconf package is primarily useful if you have various
> dynamic sources of DNS info.  I.e. you have ppp, you sometimes use
> another local box or you sometimes access the internet with ethernet
> (e.g. a laptop box that travels).
>
> I haven't found any UNIX book that talks about the contents of
> /etc/hosts on a box that isn't on a network.  I don's see a problem
> putting the localhost in the 127.0.0.1 line; it means that you can 
> 
> $ ping fred
> 
> and ping the localhost.  More importantly, it helps if you, e.g.
> misconfigure your MTA and it tries to do a DNS lookup before it sends
> the mail to itself, it will find itself.
> 
> I hope this helps.

Yes it does. Thanks!

> If you want more definitive UNIX networking, try "UNIX System
> Administration Handbook".

Rather expensive last time I saw it. :-(

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Re: I would like to give my congradulation

2008-03-29 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 08:43:53AM -0600, Walt L. Williams wrote:
> Greetings all
> 
> I just made the move from SuSE 10.3 to Debian Etch.
> 
> When I updated from SuSE 10.0 to 10.3 I found myself 
> disgusted at how unpolished and rough it was. Things 
> that worked before didn't after the update. XMMS was 
> gone, I couldn't play MP3's, the online update feature 

I think xmms is no more anyway.

> was broken, and even Audacity (an audio editor) appears 
> to have been setup so it wouldn't read in MP3 files. 
> (This is how I convert the MP3 files I get a hold of to OGG's.)
 
Also stock Debian. You have to get "lame" from
http://www.debian-multimedia.org 

> Debian Etch is by far better polished than SuSE 10.3.
> And as I have tried out previous Debian versions I must
> say that Etch is the best version of Debian yet. Even 
> with the apparent license paranoia over the Acrobat 
> reader and Firefox. (Both Free mind you) Although, 
> there might be more to this than I am aware of. 

There is. See the "Debian Free Software Guidelines" (DFSG)
I'd say a search on google for something like "Why isn't firefox in
Debian" should, hopefully, provide a reasonable answer.

> (One request though. I prefer KDE and it would be nice
> to have the option of which GUI I would like to use, 
> as it took a bit of hoop jumping to get the system 
> loaded with KDE.)
> 
> Overall  --  Great job Debian Developers!
> Keep it going
> 
> Walt
> in Boulder, Colorado
> 
> (I wouldn't mind joining the effort once I get through 
> a few more of my comp science classes.)

Have a look through.
http://www.debian.org/devel/

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Re: IBM DB2 V9.5 32 bits failed to allocate share memory

2008-03-29 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 09:46:19AM +0100, cypherstrong wrote:
> I have already try to change it manually but DB2 auto rewrite the shmmax
> value

Even in redhat? But it works in redhat?

> I have try to start db2 and after set the shmmax, but they still crash
> with same error.

Annoying. 

> Perhaps it's a bug of the db2 v9.5 fixpack 0 of ibm soft because older
> version work fine without anything to do.

Presuming you paid for this software, what does support have to say?

> They is a way to tell to db2 to don't change this value himself ?

I don't know about db2. I use postgreSQL and it works out of the box.

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Re: Cannot boot from root lvm volume: lvm2 broken?

2008-03-29 Thread Benjamin Kircher
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 5:00 PM, Andrew Sackville-West <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 08:32:50PM +0100, Benjamin Kircher wrote:
> > Hi there,
> >
> >
> > need some advice over here. Installed Etch from netinstall iso and
> upgraded
> > to sid, which works flawlessly. All partitions except /boot are in a LVM
> > group (even my root fs is a LVM volume). Then I removed (more precise:
> > purged) 2.6.18-5-486 kernel in favor of 2.6.24-1-686. After running a
> > "update-initramfs -u" and a "shutdown -r now" my box fails to boot up.
> It
> > complains:
> >
> > (nah nah nah, a lot of this not and a lot of that not, neh neh ney)
> > ...
> > /scripts/local-top/lvm2: line 68 tr not found
> > /scripts/local-top/lvm2: line 68 sed not found
> > (I guess, this part of the script tries to activate my volume group)
> > ...
> > /proc/mounts: fopen %s failed: No such file or directory
> > Failed to create lvm type filter
> > Waiting for root file system ...
> >
> > ... which my box never gets. Hereafter it throws me to a very limited
> shell.
> > Indeed, /proc and /dev are empty ;(
>
> Hey wow! I'm seeing this too (though i can boot). I thought it was
> from moving to an amd64 kernel on i386 userland. But apparently
> not. It seems that the initrd environment is broken at the moment. I'm
> not sure, maybe it's ash (I think that's the initrd shell) that's
> broken.
>
> You'll notice that this limited shell (busybox) doesn't function
> properly -- ls doesn't exist for example. But you can fake it with
> `busybox ` to get it to execute. So, for example, to get an ls of
> the current directory, use `busybox ls` and there it will be.
>
> So to boot this thing, you need to duplicate the processes that happen
> in the initrd phase. This means you need to activate your lvm and
> possible any encrypted stuff (if you have encryption as well, let me
> know and we'll work through that).
>
> to activate lvm, do this from the busybox shell:
>
> vgchange -ay 
>
> -ay for "activate yes" essentially.
>
> this will create your volume group in /dev/mapper. Check it with
>
> busybox ls /dev/mapper
>
> if that's working, then you should be able to just
>
> exit
>
> the busybox shell and your boot should continue.
>
>
> Essentially, certain necessary functions are missing from the initrd
> causing these scripts to fail. It should be fairly simple for you to
> get booted, and once that's done just stay up until a fix comes
> through, or keep track of what you did to successfully boot so you can
> reproduce it.
>
> And this warrants a bug report, if one doesn't exist
> already. hmmm... a little quick searching doesn't reveal anything
> specific. I would file it with initramfs-tools as they know who get's
> included in the initrd and can forward it on if required.
>
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Hi Andrew,


I'm not able to activate lvm from within busybox, a "vgchange -ay group0"
gives me:
/proc/mounts: fopen %s failed: No such file or directory
/proc/devices: fopen failed: No such file or directory
Failed to create lvm type filter

/proc and /dev (except /dev/console) are empty like the ocean.

I think you're right: My initrd is really f'd up. The first lines I noticed
during boot up:
/init: line 11: mount: not found
cat: can't open '/proc/cmdline': No such file or directory
...
/scripts/init-top/framebuffer: line 100: mknod: not found
...
/init: line 157: printf: not found
...

I took a look at the initramfs-tools bug page and couldn't find any similar
reports. I'll do some further investigations (need to know how initramfs
works in detail).


Benjamin


Re: [OT] searching for crm

2008-03-29 Thread cypherstrong

Try this RedMine !!!

It's the best I have ever try !!! Totally write in ruby,
with apache2 + fastcgi it's rock !!!

They support a lot of think, workflow, task, good for project, support 
for versioning tools (subversion, cvs, dark, mercurial ...)



Martin Marcher a écrit :

Hi,

I'm looking for a CRM software, looking around it seems that SugarCRM
is the package of choice in this field but it's written in php and I
don't do that normally so I'd rather choose a steep learning curve
with python than with php.

I also know of xrms.sf.net (php again) as an alternative but I
recently had to enhance it and the code really seems unmaintainable
(mixed PHP/HTML/SQL in a single file), looks like it was created way
before anybody thought about MVC or some best practices, yes it does
work but I'll probably be enhancing it with some custom stuff where I
see fit.


my requirements would be:

 * web based
 * needs to have workflows (e.g. assign activity to a contact, if no
updates within a week -> escalate by mail,)
 * soap/xmlrpc interface (xmlrpc preferred, it just so much nicer to use)
 * mail gateway (incoming mail should be automagically processed and
attached to activities/contacts,)

nice to have would be:
 * written in python (what I sript in most of the time)
 * xmpp interface (escalation or something, i just like that protocol
it seems to be able to fit nearly any use be it human/human messaging,
human/app or app/app)
 * NO: tinyerp.org
 * NO: erp5.org
 * I had a look at both of these and they seem to just hide under open
source there isn't really that much documentation there (especially
erp5.org when i last looked at it), also they seem overkill as I
really just need CRM not ERP atm.

so does anyone have suggestions about more alternatives to look at?

thanks
martin

  





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Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-03-29 Thread Chris Walters

Chris Bannister wrote:

On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 08:30:16PM -0700, Daniel Burrows wrote:

are searching for completely unrelated terms (say, "Barack Obama" or
"gravid platypus" [0]) more than they used to.

  Daniel

  [0] I think the next Ubuntu release should be named "gravid platypus",
  don't you?  ;-)



They tend to use the same first letter, so "gravid gorilla" or "poncy
platypus"?


ROTFL!  Or maybe, "prancing platypuses", or "gravid gravedigger"? ;)


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Installing GTK+

2008-03-29 Thread John Salmon
How does one go about installing GTK+ into Debian Etch using Aptitude?

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Mounting Windows Samba shares without using smbfs

2008-03-29 Thread Amit Uttamchandani

As smbfs is no longer maintained, what is the proper way to mount samba shares 
in linux?

Most of the user guides out there rely on 'mount -t smbfs ' to mount 
windows shares. I heard there is a mount -t cifs? But that doesn't seem to work 
in etch box that I have.

In the meantime, I am using smbclient to access the windows shares. I like the 
tool. It is ftp like and gets the job done. However, it is much easier to have 
the share mounted and perform the common file operations directly.

Any ideas?

Thanks,
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Re: Just testing.

2008-03-29 Thread steve

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Re: AT Package Requires Courier MTA

2008-03-29 Thread Brian

Jochen Schulz wrote:

Andrei Popescu:
at depends on mail-transport-agent provided by courier-mta. Just pick 
your favorite and install it along with at like:


aptitude install at postfix


Or to get a list of all packages providing mail-transport-agent:

$ aptitude search ~Pmail-transport-agent
p   bongoproject-mta- Integrated mail and calendar
p   citadel-mta - complete and feature-rich
p   courier-mta - Courier mail server - ESMTP
p   esmtp-run   - User configurable relay-only
p   exim- An obsolete MTA (Mail
p   exim4-daemon-heavy  - Exim MTA (v4) daemon with
p   exim4-daemon-light  - lightweight Exim MTA (v4)
p   masqmail- A mailer for hosts without
p   msmtp-mta   - light SMTP client with support
p   nbsmtp  - Simple MTA to send your mails
p   nullmailer  - simple relay-only mail
i   postfix - High-performance mail
p   sendmail-bin- powerful, efficient, and
p   smail   - Electronic mail transport
p   ssmtp   - extremely simple MTA to get
p   xmail   - advanced, fast and reliable

(The list might look slightly different on your system.)

J.

Joost Witteveen wrote:
> On 28/03/2008, Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>  I am running an NSLU2 Slug, Debian Etch.  Kernel=2.6.18-4-ixp4xx. I
>>  installed AT and was very surprised to see that APT requires that
>>  Courier Mail MTA is a prereq of AT.
>
> Me too.
> I've got at installed, and no courier:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp$ dpkg -l at
> Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
> | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
> |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: 
uppercase=bad)

> ||/ Name   VersionDescription
> 
+++-==-==-
> ii  at 3.1.10 Delayed job execution and batch 
processing

> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp$ dpkg -l courier\*
> Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
> | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
> |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: 
uppercase=bad)

> ||/ Name   VersionDescription
> 
+++-==-==-

> un  courier-mta (no description available)
>
>
>
>> I can understand that I will need an
>>  MTA if I want AT to mail me infos about what it has done etc.
>>  I am surprised that it requires a specific MTA.
>
> How did you find out it requires a specific MTA? I suppose it just
> piced one (why courier I don't know).
>
>>  On the NSLU2 RAM is at a premium and I would prefer not to have all
>>  these useless (for me ) processes hanging around all the time.
>
> Well, you don't have to actually run the MTA:). You can disable it in
> /etc/rc*.d/
> Or, I'm sure you can choose a different MTA.
>
>>  How can I find out if and why courier MTA is really required?
>
> $ dpkg -s at
> will show you the dependencies of at, as will
> $ apt-cache showpkg at
>
> at depends on mail-transport-agent. To see what packages provide
> mail-transport-agent:
> $ mail-transport-agent
> (and look for the Reverse Provides:)
>
>>  Would there be any danger in just overriding this prereq somehow to
>>  allow the AT install without Courier?
>
> well, for the sanity of your system it'll be better to just install a
> different MTA, if you don't like courier, but do want at:
>
> # aptitude install at exim4-daemon-light
>
Joost, and all the others that answered:

Hi, thanks for the answers. I guess I need to dig deeper into apt and 
dpkg. I deinstalled at and the courier packages then did (sorry that 
some of it is in German, but you can see the packet names):


# apt-get  install at
Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig
Abhängigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut... Fertig
Die folgenden zusätzlichen Pakete werden installiert:
  courier-authdaemon courier-authlib courier-authlib-userdb 
courier-base courier-mta


So I installed what it suggested.

But, looking into the package I can see that it needs just an MTA, as 
was described to me:


# apt-cache showpkg at
Package: at
Versions:
3.1.10(/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.hosteurope.de_pub_linux_debian_dists_etch_main_binary-arm_Packages)(/var/lib/dpkg/status)

Reverse Depends:
  mirror,at
  lsb-core,at
  gnome-schedule,at
  gato,at
  devscripts,at
Dependencies:
3.1.10 - libc6 (2 2.3.5-1) libpam0g (2 0.76) mail-transport-agent (0 
(null)) lsb-base (2 3.0-10)

Provides:
3.1.10 -
Reverse Provides:

As suggested I tried the following:

# apt-get install at exim4-daemon-light
Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig
Abhängigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut... 

Re: Installing GTK+

2008-03-29 Thread Kevin Mark
On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 12:05:50PM -0500, John Salmon wrote:
> How does one go about installing GTK+ into Debian Etch using Aptitude?
> 
-
% apt-cache search libgtk|grep -vi perl|grep -vi ruby|grep -vi java|grep -vi 
opengl|grep -vi html|grep -vi ocaml|sort|more
-
this should show you some packages for it.

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Re: Installing GTK+

2008-03-29 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 12:05:50PM -0500, John Salmon wrote:
> How does one go about installing GTK+ into Debian Etch using Aptitude?

Please explain what you are trying to achieve. GTK is a library used by 
various programs. If a Debian program requires the library it will get 
installed automatically by apt(itude).

If you want to compile some program you need some specific packages, not 
the runtime libraries, so please explain what you are trying to do.

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Re: Just testing.

2008-03-29 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 02:59:20PM -0400, Chris Walters wrote:
> Just testing, because I haven't gotten a message from this list for over 12 
> hours.

There was some scheduled downtime on some provider, probably the one 
hosting liszt.debian.org. I don't know where it was announced, I just 
saw a reaction to the announcement.

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Re: Errant ld-linux.so.2

2008-03-29 Thread KS
Patrick Wiseman wrote:
> Every now and then, I have an apparently memory-leaking ld-linux.so.2
> process running.  When I kill it, nothing else seems adversely
> affected.  Is there some way I can identify what's spawned it?
> 
> Patrick
> 
> 

I have seen this happen several times in the last few weeks. If it
happened before that too, I think I didn't notice!

This happens when I open an pdf document with Adobe Reader 8 inside
Konqueror (file browsing). Killing it doesn't hurt anything else but
reduces the CPU usage to the normal few %.

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Re: Just testing.

2008-03-29 Thread Paul Johnson
On Saturday 29 March 2008 02:19:37 pm steve wrote:
> Chris Walters wrote:
> | Just testing, because I haven't gotten a message from this list for over
> | 12 hours.
> |
> | Regards,
> | Chris
>
> 2nd message like that today, must be your guys ISP?  Ive been getting
> messages all day.

I don't know how, l.d.o was clearly down and not responding to http requests 
for most of last night and today.

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Re: AT Package Requires Courier MTA

2008-03-29 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 06:47:32PM +0100, Brian wrote:

[huge snip]

>  aptitude install at exim4-daemon-light
> Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig
> Abhängigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut... Fertig
> Lese erweiterte Statusinformationen
> Initialisiere Paketstatus... Fertig
> Lese Task-Beschreibungen... Fertig
> Erzeuge Tag-Datenbank... Fertig
> Die folgenden NEUEN Pakete werden zusätzlich automatisch installiert:
>   exim4-base exim4-config
>
> That seemed to work, but with errors as exim etc. needs some configuration. 
> But that has solved the dependency problem as far as I can see.

It doesn't hurt to properly configure exim, even if you chose the "local 
delivery only" (or how it is called) option. In order to redo it you 
need to run 'dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config'.

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Re: /etc/hosts + resolvconf (was Re: associating names and addresses)

2008-03-29 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 03:13:27AM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 09:39:22PM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
 > If you want more definitive UNIX networking, try "UNIX System
> > Administration Handbook".
> 
> Rather expensive last time I saw it. :-(

Sure, about $80 new.  However, I've looked at used copies and these
basics about UNIX haven't changed in years.  Sure, the examples of how
to do specific things on their example OSs, and their choice of example
OSs change, but the UNIX fundaments don't change.  If you can't afford a
new copy, certainly consider a used copy.  Check out university book
stores, ebay, or amazon for used copies.

Glad I could help.

Doug.


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Re: Cannot boot from root lvm volume: lvm2 broken?

2008-03-29 Thread Benjamin Kircher
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 5:15 PM, Jack Schneider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 20:32:50 +0100
> "Benjamin Kircher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Hi there,
> >
> >
> > need some advice over here. Installed Etch from netinstall iso and
> upgraded
> > to sid, which works flawlessly. All partitions except /boot are in a LVM
> > group (even my root fs is a LVM volume). Then I removed (more precise:
> > purged) 2.6.18-5-486 kernel in favor of 2.6.24-1-686. After running a
> > "update-initramfs -u" and a "shutdown -r now" my box fails to boot up.
> It
> > complains:
> >
> > (nah nah nah, a lot of this not and a lot of that not, neh neh ney)
> > ...
> > /scripts/local-top/lvm2: line 68 tr not found
> > /scripts/local-top/lvm2: line 68 sed not found
> > (I guess, this part of the script tries to activate my volume group)
> > ...
> > /proc/mounts: fopen %s failed: No such file or directory
> > Failed to create lvm type filter
> > Waiting for root file system ...
> >
> > ... which my box never gets. Hereafter it throws me to a very limited
> shell.
> > Indeed, /proc and /dev are empty ;(
> >
> > Google isn't my friend: A search found no similar messages like this.
> There
> > are no bugs listed for the lvm2 package which describes this behavior
> nor
> > are there any recent changes in the /scripts/local-top/lvm2 script.
> >
> > Any clues from you guys on how to proceed and hunting down this issue?
> >
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Benjamin
>
> Hi, Did you update grub (if that's what your using)?  grub install? or
> edit at boot?
> Jack
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no, I didn't update grub explicitly, but the kernel line is correct.

kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.24-1-686 root=/dev/mapper/group0-logical1 ro vga=0x318


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Re: I would like to give my congradulation

2008-03-29 Thread Sjoerd Hiemstra
Chris Bannister wrote:
> I think xmms is no more anyway.

A number of distros have dropped xmms.
As far as I vaguely remember, the reason is that it still uses gtk1, and
there were certain problems preventing it from being upgraded to gtk2.

Audacious is one of its successors, you could use that one instead.

However, Debian is one of the distros still carrying xmms.


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Re: Plone, zc.buildout, and Etch

2008-03-29 Thread Freddy Freeloader

Freddy Freeloader wrote:

Hi all,

Is anyone else out there using buildout to create Plone 3 installs on 
Etch?
I've been running into really strange errors when using buildout on 
Etch which no one in the Plone community is able to help me with.  I 
cannot even complete a default buildout on Etch using Debian Python 
packages.  I can however, do this on successfully on Sid.  I haven't 
tried Lenny.
If I use the ez_setup.py script on Etch to to download and install the 
Python setup tools package I can build a default Plone 3 install, 
however, I then run into problems adding third party tools such as 
Ploneboard, SimpleAttachment, and Clouseau.  As I need the third party 
tools for the functions they provide this isn't something I live with.


I can use the Plone Unified Installer, but would much prefer using 
buildout as it is so much more flexible.
This all seems to be tied to changes made in the Debian Python 
packages in Etch that have been made since January 30 of this year.  
Why that date?  Because I successfully used buildout on a server 
running Etch on that day.  I also added the above third party tools 
successfully.   Sometime since then something has changed in the 
Debian Python packages, or so it would appear anyway.



Update:

Well, if anyone out there is wanting to use the buildout method of 
installing Zope and Plone on Etch, at least for a while anyway, you're 
going to either have to compile Python, PIL, and any other Python 
dependencies from source code, or the the UnifiedInstallerBuildout 
packages that combine the Unified Installer, buildout, and Python 2.4.4 
in one package.  

The Python interpreter now in Etch will not work.  What exactly changed 
I don't know, but it's changed sometime after 1/28/2008.  

You can't just use the Unified Installer package either as it will 
install successfully but any time you install 3rd party packages it 
hoses the Plone site, sometimes so badly that even deleting the product 
directories and restarting the instance or the cluster doesn't help.  
You have to start over from scratch.




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[OT] Paste board on the Internet

2008-03-29 Thread T o n g
Hi, 

I once saw people put their long log output (eg xorg log) to the Internet
"paste board" to shorten the question here. But can't find such posts any
more. So, 

do you know any Internet "paste board" that is hassle free?
which one do your prefer and/or suggest?

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Re: [OT] Paste board on the Internet

2008-03-29 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 01:45:07PM +, T o n g wrote:
> I once saw people put their long log output (eg xorg log) to the Internet
> "paste board" to shorten the question here. But can't find such posts any
> more. So, 
> 
> do you know any Internet "paste board" that is hassle free?
> which one do your prefer and/or suggest?

For shortening questions here, I wouldn't bother.  Many of us are
off-line when we read the list mail and so can't follow a link.  If you
don't provide the errors/logs in the question but only a link, I for one
can't help you.

Doug.


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configure error: C compiler cannot create executables

2008-03-29 Thread andy baxter

hello,

I am trying to compile the latest version of mod_python for apache2 on a 
small debian server. (Because the debian version seems to be broken). I 
have downloaded the tgz file, unpacked it, installed gcc, and run 
./configure, and it gives this output:


whale:/local/usr/src/mod_python-3.3.1# ./configure
checking for gcc... gcc
checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C 
compiler cannot create executables

See `config.log' for more details.

this is what seems to be the relevant part of config.log:

gcc version 4.1.2 20061115 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.1-21)
configure:1591: $? = 0
configure:1593: gcc -V &5
gcc: '-V' option must have argument
configure:1596: $? = 1
configure:1619: checking for C compiler default output file name
configure:1622: gccconftest.c  >&5
/usr/bin/ld: crt1.o: No such file: No such file or directory
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
configure:1625: $? = 1
configure: failed program was:
| /* confdefs.h.  */
|
| #define PACKAGE_NAME ""
| #define PACKAGE_TARNAME ""
| #define PACKAGE_VERSION ""
| #define PACKAGE_STRING ""
| #define PACKAGE_BUGREPORT ""
| /* end confdefs.h.  */
|
| int
| main ()
| {
|
|   ;
|   return 0;
| }
configure:1664: error: C compiler cannot create executables
See `config.log' for more details.


/usr/bin/ld is installed (in binutils).

I'm never come across this error before, and I don't know what to do.

Can anyone help?

andy baxter.


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apache2 does not display blosxom blog

2008-03-29 Thread Russell L. Harris
Faced with the prospect of frequent regular updates to WordPress
(entirely too much hassle; this appears to be a result of the recent
acquisition of WordPress by Google(?)), I am considering a return to
blosxom.

But I have misplaced my notes from my previous installation of
blosxom, and I have not yet discovered how to get apache2 to display
the blog.

In the blosxom package, README.Debian says that data files belong in
/var/lib/blosxom/data , and the example configuration file
blosxom.conf agrees:

$datadir = "/var/lib/blosxom/data"

But testing with the URL http://localhost/blosxom/ displays a page
which reads as follows:

   Index of /blosxom
   [ICO]NameLast modified   SizeDescription
   [DIR]Parent Directory-
   [DIR]images/ 29-Mar-2008 01:11   -
   Apache/2.2.8 (Debian) Server at localhost Port 80

I installed blosxom before I installed apache2.  Does the installation
sequence matter?

If you know of a simple and robust blogging engine which correctly
generates RSS feeds, I am open to recommendations.  The blog is for my
own postings, and not for comments.  I need only text -- no images, no
bells and whistles.

RLH


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Re: Just testing.

2008-03-29 Thread Ron Johnson
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On 03/29/08 16:19, steve wrote:
> Chris Walters wrote:
> | Just testing, because I haven't gotten a message from this list for over
> | 12 hours.
> |
> | Regards,
> | Chris
> 
> 2nd message like that today, must be your guys ISP?  Ive been getting
> messages all day.

All morning and up thru the early/mid-afternoon, I was getting
non-Debian mail, but not Debian mail.  Then, some time when I was
away from my PC, it all flooded in (since fetchmail runs every 5
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Re: [OT] Paste board on the Internet

2008-03-29 Thread Stefan Valouch
Am Sonntag, 30. März 2008 00:16:20 schrieb Douglas A. Tutty:
> On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 01:45:07PM +, T o n g wrote:
> > I once saw people put their long log output (eg xorg log) to the Internet
> > "paste board" to shorten the question here. But can't find such posts any
> > more. So,
> >
> > do you know any Internet "paste board" that is hassle free?
> > which one do your prefer and/or suggest?
>
> For shortening questions here, I wouldn't bother.  Many of us are
> off-line when we read the list mail and so can't follow a link.  If you
> don't provide the errors/logs in the question but only a link, I for one
> can't help you.
>
> Doug.

I'm online the whole day, but i like it to have all in one place. If i have to 
open 5 links to 5 pastes (search for "pastebin") ... no thanks ;)

Stefan



Re: configure error: C compiler cannot create executables

2008-03-29 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
andy baxter wrote:

> this is what seems to be the relevant part of config.log:
> 
> gcc version 4.1.2 20061115 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.1-21)
> configure:1591: $? = 0
> configure:1593: gcc -V &5
> gcc: '-V' option must have argument
> configure:1596: $? = 1
> configure:1619: checking for C compiler default output file name
> configure:1622: gccconftest.c  >&5
> /usr/bin/ld: crt1.o: No such file: No such file or directory

This is your error. Install libc6-dev and hopefully that will solve this
problem. If that does not solve, please tell us what your architecture is,
what distribution you are using - stable/testing/unstable?

hth
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Re: configure error: C compiler cannot create executables

2008-03-29 Thread Axqd
I've ever run into this problem under ubuntu. I fixed it with:

#apt-get install build-essential

On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 9:24 AM, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
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>
> andy baxter wrote:
>
> > this is what seems to be the relevant part of config.log:
> >
> > gcc version 4.1.2 20061115 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.1-21)
> > configure:1591: $? = 0
> > configure:1593: gcc -V &5
> > gcc: '-V' option must have argument
> > configure:1596: $? = 1
> > configure:1619: checking for C compiler default output file name
> > configure:1622: gccconftest.c  >&5
> > /usr/bin/ld: crt1.o: No such file: No such file or directory
>
> This is your error. Install libc6-dev and hopefully that will solve this
> problem. If that does not solve, please tell us what your architecture is,
> what distribution you are using - stable/testing/unstable?
>
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Re: configure error: C compiler cannot create executables

2008-03-29 Thread Ron Johnson
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On 03/29/08 20:45, Axqd wrote:
> I've ever run into this problem under ubuntu. I fixed it with:

Do you mean "even" or "never"?

> #apt-get install build-essential

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Re: Reg Blind

2008-03-29 Thread Kevin Mark
Hi Suzy,
I am forwarding your request to the Debian-user mailing list, as that
would be a better place to ask. The Debian-project list is for questions
about the Debian project and not for help with using Debian.
Cheers,
Kev
On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 09:11:13PM +, Suzy Hesketh wrote:
> Hi
> 
> I am registered blind but I do have some limited sight.
> 
> I have never used Debian but I have looked at Dream. 
> 
> My IRC administrator uses Debian and so does my friend who runs the UK server
> and he has asked me to be an Operator on the server with him, so the server is
> covered while he is not available. 
> 
> So I have decided to have a go at learning Debian.  Would you please tell me 
> if
> there is a live version of the programme that I can use so I can get the feel
> of it before installing the full package? 
> 
> Also is there any way for me to change the screen setting on Debian, so I can
> make it easier for me to see?
> 
> Thank you very much for your help with this.  I look forward very much to
> hearing from you soon.
> 
> Suzy

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[OT] Old Laptop

2008-03-29 Thread Rich Healey
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Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 02:38:32PM +1100, Rich Healey wrote:
>> 9.2 was the only version i ever used (and didn't totally hate), it was
>> the only distro that everything worked off the bat with my ancient
>> laptop, debian with 99% of the system modified was quite good though,
>> now i'm playing with gentoo.. will likely go back to debian sid though.
> 
> Try OpenBSD unmodified on your ancient laptop.  It will probably work
> out of the box.
> 
> Doug.
> 
> 
Thanks doug.

I've actually been looking into getting a BSD box to use as a desktop, I
might try that if this gentoo install falls through.
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Re: want to speed up laptop

2008-03-29 Thread Rich Healey
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Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 09:12:06AM -0500, Preston Boyington wrote:
>> Chris Bannister wrote:
>> 
>>> Where are your bottlenecks?
>> currently my two biggest bottlenecks are with the networking and the  
>> MTA.  i installed "ifplugd" and set a faster timeout for the network and  
>> that has helped.  i don't really "need" a MTA for my laptop and will be  
>> looking for some alternative.  have thought about just removing Exim and  
>> dealing with whatever dependency issues arise.  i can always just look  
>> at the log files for info if i need to.
> 
> I think that is a DNS lookup issue.
> 
>>> I altered the link from /bin/sh to point to /bin/dash instead of
>>> /bin/bash but I'm not sure if I got a big improvement. It seems
>>> reasonably fast though. :-)
>> i have been using zsh recently and it has worked pretty well so far.
> 
> No, the shell *you* use is determined by the line in /etc/passwd. What I
> meant was the shell used to execute the initscripts.
> 
> What does:
> 
>   # ls -al /bin/sh
> 
> produce?
> 
> If it comes back as pointing to /bin/bash then try pointing /bin/sh to
> /bin/dash and see if there is any improvement.
> 

installing dash first would probably be an idea.

I could be wrong, but i don't believe it comes in a stock install.
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Re: AT Package Requires Courier MTA

2008-03-29 Thread Brian

Jochen Schulz wrote:

Andrei Popescu:
at depends on mail-transport-agent provided by courier-mta. Just pick 
your favorite and install it along with at like:


aptitude install at postfix


Or to get a list of all packages providing mail-transport-agent:

$ aptitude search ~Pmail-transport-agent
p   bongoproject-mta- Integrated mail and calendar
p   citadel-mta - complete and feature-rich
p   courier-mta - Courier mail server - ESMTP
p   esmtp-run   - User configurable relay-only
p   exim- An obsolete MTA (Mail
p   exim4-daemon-heavy  - Exim MTA (v4) daemon with
p   exim4-daemon-light  - lightweight Exim MTA (v4)
p   masqmail- A mailer for hosts without
p   msmtp-mta   - light SMTP client with support
p   nbsmtp  - Simple MTA to send your mails
p   nullmailer  - simple relay-only mail
i   postfix - High-performance mail
p   sendmail-bin- powerful, efficient, and
p   smail   - Electronic mail transport
p   ssmtp   - extremely simple MTA to get
p   xmail   - advanced, fast and reliable

(The list might look slightly different on your system.)

J.
Hi, thanks for the answers. I guess I need to dig deeper into apt and 
dpkg. I deinstalled at and the courier packages then did (soory that 
some of it is in German, but you can see the packet names):


# apt-get  install at
Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig
Abhängigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut... Fertig
Die folgenden zusätzlichen Pakete werden installiert:
  courier-authdaemon courier-authlib courier-authlib-userdb 
courier-base courier-mta


So I installed what it suggested.

But, looking into the package I can see that it needs just an MTA, as 
was described to me:


# apt-cache showpkg at
Package: at
Versions:
3.1.10(/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.hosteurope.de_pub_linux_debian_dists_etch_main_binary-arm_Packages)(/var/lib/dpkg/status)

Reverse Depends:
  mirror,at
  lsb-core,at
  gnome-schedule,at
  gato,at
  devscripts,at
Dependencies:
3.1.10 - libc6 (2 2.3.5-1) libpam0g (2 0.76) mail-transport-agent (0 
(null)) lsb-base (2 3.0-10)

Provides:
3.1.10 -
Reverse Provides:

As suggested I tried the following:

# apt-get install at exim4-daemon-light
Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig
Abhängigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut... Fertig
Die folgenden zusätzlichen Pakete werden installiert:
  courier-authdaemon courier-authlib courier-authlib-userdb 
courier-base exim4-base exim4-config

Vorgeschlagene Pakete:
  eximon4 exim4-doc-html exim4-doc-info gnutls-bin openssl 
libmail-spf-query-perl

Die folgenden NEUEN Pakete werden installiert:
  at courier-authdaemon courier-authlib courier-authlib-userdb 
courier-base exim4-base exim4-config exim4-daemon-light


So apt-get wanted to install courier and exim4!

Then tried:

 aptitude install at exim4-daemon-light
Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig
Abhängigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut... Fertig
Lese erweiterte Statusinformationen
Initialisiere Paketstatus... Fertig
Lese Task-Beschreibungen... Fertig
Erzeuge Tag-Datenbank... Fertig
Die folgenden NEUEN Pakete werden zusätzlich automatisch installiert:
  exim4-base exim4-config

That seemed to work, but with errors as exim etc. needs some 
configuration. But that has solved the dependency problem as far as I 
can see.


So thanks very much for the tips.

Cheers Brian
















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Re: configure error: C compiler cannot create executables

2008-03-29 Thread Axqd
Sorry, english is not my mother tongue.
Actually, what I mean is that:
*I have encountered this issue before, under ubuntu*

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Re: [OT] Paste board on the Internet

2008-03-29 Thread Mumia W..

On 03/29/2008 08:45 AM, T o n g wrote:
Hi, 


I once saw people put their long log output (eg xorg log) to the Internet
"paste board" to shorten the question here. But can't find such posts any
more. So, 


do you know any Internet "paste board" that is hassle free?
which one do your prefer and/or suggest?

Thanks



One of the many paste boards is http://pastebin.mozilla.org/

You will be able to find many more: http://www.google.com/search?q=pastebin




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Re: configure error: C compiler cannot create executables

2008-03-29 Thread Ron Johnson
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No problem.  Just wanted to clarify...

On 03/29/08 21:31, Axqd wrote:
> Sorry, english is not my mother tongue.
> Actually, what I mean is that:
> *I have encountered this issue before, under ubuntu*
> 
> On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 9:59 AM, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>  On 03/29/08 20:45, Axqd wrote:
>>  > I've ever run into this problem under ubuntu. I fixed it with:
>>
>>  Do you mean "even" or "never"?
>>
>>
>>  > #apt-get install build-essential
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Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-03-29 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 03:13:46AM +1300, Chris Bannister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
was heard to say:
> On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 08:30:16PM -0700, Daniel Burrows wrote:
> > are searching for completely unrelated terms (say, "Barack Obama" or
> > "gravid platypus" [0]) more than they used to.
> > 
> >   Daniel
> > 
> >   [0] I think the next Ubuntu release should be named "gravid platypus",
> >   don't you?  ;-)
> >
> 
> They tend to use the same first letter, so "gravid gorilla" or "poncy
> platypus"?

  Of course, the thing that's amusing about platypuses (platypi?) is
that they are, in fact, never gravid.  Sadly, none of the monotremes
have a name that starts with "g", so that rules this joke out (unless
someone knows a synonym for "gravid" starting with "p" or "e").

  I'd fall back to "gravid giraffe", which is at least an amusing mental
image. :)

  Daniel


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Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-03-29 Thread Ron Johnson
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On 03/29/08 21:44, Daniel Burrows wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 03:13:46AM +1300, Chris Bannister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> was heard to say:
>> On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 08:30:16PM -0700, Daniel Burrows wrote:
>>> are searching for completely unrelated terms (say, "Barack Obama" or
>>> "gravid platypus" [0]) more than they used to.
>>>
>>>   Daniel
>>>
>>>   [0] I think the next Ubuntu release should be named "gravid platypus",
>>>   don't you?  ;-)
>>>
>> They tend to use the same first letter, so "gravid gorilla" or "poncy
>> platypus"?
> 
>   Of course, the thing that's amusing about platypuses (platypi?) is
> that they are, in fact, never gravid.  Sadly, none of the monotremes
> have a name that starts with "g", so that rules this joke out (unless
> someone knows a synonym for "gravid" starting with "p" or "e").
> 
>   I'd fall back to "gravid giraffe", which is at least an amusing mental
> image. :)

What's all that amusing about a pregnant giraffe?

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Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-03-29 Thread Owen Townend
On 30/03/2008, Chris Bannister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 08:30:16PM -0700, Daniel Burrows wrote:
> > are searching for completely unrelated terms (say, "Barack Obama" or
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> >
> >   Daniel
> >
> >   [0] I think the next Ubuntu release should be named "gravid platypus",
> >   don't you?  ;-)
> >
>
>
> They tend to use the same first letter, so "gravid gorilla" or "poncy
> platypus"?
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Hey,
  They also alphabetically increment with each release and Gutsy Gibbon,
Hardy Herron and Intrepid Ibex are the current timeline releases for 7.10,
8.04 and 8.10 respectively. So it'll have to be 'j' onwards. How about
Jovial Jackal?

cheers,
Owen.


Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-03-29 Thread Ron Johnson
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On 03/29/08 22:09, Owen Townend wrote:
[snip]
> 
> Hey,
>   They also alphabetically increment with each release and Gutsy Gibbon,
> Hardy Herron and Intrepid Ibex are the current timeline releases for
> 7.10, 8.04 and 8.10 respectively. So it'll have to be 'j' onwards. How
> about Jovial Jackal?

Jovian Jackal seems a much better name.

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Re: Reg Blind

2008-03-29 Thread Mumia W..

On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 09:11:13PM +, Suzy Hesketh wrote:

Hi

I am registered blind but I do have some limited sight.

I have never used Debian but I have looked at Dream. 


My IRC administrator uses Debian and so does my friend who runs the UK server
and he has asked me to be an Operator on the server with him, so the server is
covered while he is not available. 


So I have decided to have a go at learning Debian.  Would you please tell me if
there is a live version of the programme that I can use so I can get the feel
of it before installing the full package? 



You can find information about Debian Live CD's here: 
http://search.aol.com/aol/search?query=debian+live+cd


Here is a direct link: http://debian-live.alioth.debian.org/

Knoppix is also an excellent Linux Live CD. Knoppix is based upon 
Debian; however, Knoppix is not Debian.


Unbuntu is a very different O/S also based on Debian. Some vendors sell 
versions of Ubuntu that boot from USB keys.



Also is there any way for me to change the screen setting on Debian, so I can
make it easier for me to see?



As root, do "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and select the lower screen 
resolutions.



Thank you very much for your help with this.  I look forward very much to
hearing from you soon.

Suzy




Welcome to Debian and good luck Suzy.


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HP Photosmart and Epson Stylus Photo printer compatibility?

2008-03-29 Thread Marc Shapiro
I am in the market for a new printer and I like HP for Linux 
compatibility.  So I went to linuxprinting.org and printed out the list 
of HP printers to take with me to Fry's.  Fry's has the HP PhotoSmart 
D7160, D7260 and D7460.  The listing on linuxprinting.org has the 
PhotoSmart D7100, 7200 and 7400 all listed as working perfectly.  Can 
anyone verify if the newer versions currently at Fry's work as perfectly 
as the older ones?


I also saw the Epson Stylus Photo R260 listed as working perfectly, but, 
again, the model available at Fry's was the slightly newer R280.  Can 
anyone verify the functioning of this printer under linux?


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