Re: xrandr laptop monitor flickering

[Franklin PIAT]

Ivan,

On Wed, 2008-02-27 at 12:34 +0100, Ivan Glushkov wrote:
> I use my laptop monitor ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), and an external Samsung
> SyncMaster 740T ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) connected via VGA to the laptop. The
> configuration is:

> Issuing:
> ~ % xrandr --output VGA-0 --above LVDS --mode 1280x1024 --rate 75

> ..that the lower part of my laptop screen starts flickering
> once per 10-15 seconds.

Have you tried without specifying "--rate 75" ?

Since LCD pixels remains "on" (or "off") all the time (as opposed to CRT
were pixel brightness was fading in a few milliseconds), there's no need
for high refresh rate (i.e. how often the image is actually changed, so
you eye perceive a motion). The default (60hz) ought to be just fine.

(Of course, have a good response time is useful, to avoid blur effect,
but that's another story).

Franklin



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Re: finally got lenny installed

[Michael D. Norwick]

Robin wrote:



On 27/02/2008, *Daniel Burrows* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> wrote:


On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 10:33:45AM +, Robin
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> was heard to say:

> Why should you have to mark all the packages you want to keep?
It is the
> wrong way round from a user perspective.


  Because they were originally installed as a dependency of another
package.  aptitude has no way to know that gnome-desktop (eg) is a
fake
package whose dependencies should be kept on if it gets removed, so if
you want to get automatic removal of unused packages, you end up with
situations like this.

  If you don't care about this feature, you can turn it off under
Options/Dependency Handling by disabling "Remove unused packages
automatically", or add "Aptitude::Delete-Unused false;" to
/etc/apt/apt.conf.


  Daniel


I know why it does it, what I'm saying is the default behaviour is 
wrong. A user new to debian/aptitude is unlikely  to understand that 
it is a configuration option that needs to be turned off, whereas a 
more experienced/technical user is more likely to have the knowledge 
to turn the option on.


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under control.


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Re: IceWeasel and IceDove or other OS?

[Sunnz]

>I never tried, but I suppose there should be no difficulty in
grabbing the Debian source >packages and compiling them in Ubuntu.

Actually there already exist a package for Ubuntu, just click and install.

Yes I am aware that it is just a rebrand of the Mozilla Firefox, I got
my reasons for it... party because I like to learn about porting
software and since Mozilla Firefox is already ported on a lot of OS I
can probably can just look up how others did it and stuff... and of
course there are number of other things that I wanted to play with
that makes IceWeasel a bit more suited for what I wanted to do.

So I am wondering where can I download the source for IceWeasel?

Thanks.


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Aptitude error: The package index files are corrupted.

[Fan Liu]

Hi all, 

I encountered such an error when I try to upgrade my debian lenny.

Writing extended state information... Error!
E: The package index files are corrupted. No Filename: field for package 
libdb4.5.

As Ken Caldweel suggested, I checked the file /var/lib/dpkg/available , but
haven't found any entry started with 'Filename'.

http://lists.slug.org.au/archives/slug/2001/11/msg00358.html

Anyone know what the problem really is? Thanks a lot.


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Re: IceWeasel and IceDove or other OS?

[Jeff D]

Sunnz wrote:

I never tried, but I suppose there should be no difficulty in

grabbing the Debian source >packages and compiling them in Ubuntu.

Actually there already exist a package for Ubuntu, just click and install.

Yes I am aware that it is just a rebrand of the Mozilla Firefox, I got
my reasons for it... party because I like to learn about porting
software and since Mozilla Firefox is already ported on a lot of OS I
can probably can just look up how others did it and stuff... and of
course there are number of other things that I wanted to play with
that makes IceWeasel a bit more suited for what I wanted to do.

So I am wondering where can I download the source for IceWeasel?

Thanks.




have you tried apt-get source iceweasel ?  That should get the sources 
for you.


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Re: mounting error USB stick

[Adam Hardy]

Florian Kulzer on 27/02/08 22:01, wrote:

On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 10:01:54 +, Adam Hardy wrote:

[...]


On Sun February 24 2008, Adam Hardy wrote:

Using xfce, Thunar used to pick up on the new usb storage device and put an
icon in its tree pane for me with the usb stick's name. Clicking on that
would then mount it to /media 


[...]


So hal is actually meant to mount the usb stick automatically? Not just show an
icon in thunar? How about CDs?


I don't know that; I guess that depends on the "philosophy" of
xfce/thunar. To the normal user it probably does not matter exactly
when the mounting happens, as long as he/she can click on the icon at
any time and access the media. 


My philosophy is that I never remember that it's /dev/sda1 on this machine 
because my memory is, er... what's the word again 


Generally when copying stuff to a usb stick, I use the command line. So I would 
appreciate automatic mounting of my usb stick to /media/somewhere. Except that 
this 'automation' involves going from the command line into thunar or the 
desktop and clicking to get it mounted.


For the test I did with the other user, you guessed correctly that I didn't add 
the user to the plugdev group.


Do you run hal and does it mount usb sticks and cds automatically?


Regards
Adam



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Re: IceWeasel and IceDove or other OS?

[Sunnz]

>have you tried apt-get source iceweasel ? That should get the sources for you.

Oh, thanks, I will try it on my Ubuntu box. However I was looking for
something like a web svn/cvs respository or something, like something
that one can just wget it from a any generic OS I suppose.

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SSH (what's this!!!)

[Márcio Luciano Donada]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Today in the morning when I give a verified in the processes of a given
server noticed the following procedures for ssh, I found a little
strange as:

root 21274  1.0  0.0   9856  3384 ?Ss   09:14   0:00 sshd:
unknown [priv]
root 21275  1.0  0.0   9860  3412 ?Ss   09:14   0:00 sshd:
unknown [priv]
root 21276  1.0  0.0   9860  3412 ?Ss   09:14   0:00 sshd:
unknown [priv]
sshd 21277  0.0  0.0   7124  1360 ?S09:14   0:00 sshd:
unknown [net]
sshd 21278  0.0  0.0   7128  1364 ?S09:14   0:00 sshd:
unknown [net]
sshd 21281  0.0  0.0   7128  1364 ?S09:14   0:00 sshd:
unknown [net]

Some idea?

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Re: Debian nice looking desktop (XGL, KDE or ??)

[Hugo Vanwoerkom]

Tzafrir Cohen wrote:

On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 01:19:52PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

On 02/27/08 12:54, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

Ron Johnson wrote:

On 02/27/08 06:28, Frenchguy wrote:

Hello,

I"m really new on Debian and I'm looking for a nice Desktop GUI, sort
of XGL or anything looking good. I've seen people imitating Vista
look, these are nice as well...

But for Debian running on Sparc (Sun Ultra T1120, 72 Gig HD, 1Gig RAM)
no video card in, I'm doing ssh to it then startkde... I would like to
have something nicer... It's already a nice looking screen, but if I
could get something nicer...it would be better.

Any Suggestion ?

By "nice", you mean "lots of resource-using, functionally-useless
eye candy"?


Or do you mean "fully configurable, lean, very functional" like fvwm?

Nah.  Since he mentions XGL, he's looking for eye candy.


Have both?

http://insitu.lri.fr/metisse/

I don't think it's in Debian, though.



Interesting. Thanks.

Hugo


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Re: SSH (what's this!!!)

[Jeff D]

Márcio Luciano Donada wrote:

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Today in the morning when I give a verified in the processes of a given
server noticed the following procedures for ssh, I found a little
strange as:

root 21274  1.0  0.0   9856  3384 ?Ss   09:14   0:00 sshd:
unknown [priv]
root 21275  1.0  0.0   9860  3412 ?Ss   09:14   0:00 sshd:
unknown [priv]
root 21276  1.0  0.0   9860  3412 ?Ss   09:14   0:00 sshd:
unknown [priv]
sshd 21277  0.0  0.0   7124  1360 ?S09:14   0:00 sshd:
unknown [net]
sshd 21278  0.0  0.0   7128  1364 ?S09:14   0:00 sshd:
unknown [net]
sshd 21281  0.0  0.0   7128  1364 ?S09:14   0:00 sshd:
unknown [net]

Some idea?



what does lsof -i:22  give you?  could be a ssh scanner, or something 
leaving open ssh connections.



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Re: SSH (what's this!!!)

[Rodrigo Escobar]

What do u got in logs ?

Any helpful message ?

On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 9:37 AM, Jeff D <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Márcio Luciano Donada wrote:
> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> > Hash: SHA1
> >
> > Today in the morning when I give a verified in the processes of a given
> > server noticed the following procedures for ssh, I found a little
> > strange as:
> >
> > root 21274  1.0  0.0   9856  3384 ?Ss   09:14   0:00 sshd:
> > unknown [priv]
> > root 21275  1.0  0.0   9860  3412 ?Ss   09:14   0:00 sshd:
> > unknown [priv]
> > root 21276  1.0  0.0   9860  3412 ?Ss   09:14   0:00 sshd:
> > unknown [priv]
> > sshd 21277  0.0  0.0   7124  1360 ?S09:14   0:00 sshd:
> > unknown [net]
> > sshd 21278  0.0  0.0   7128  1364 ?S09:14   0:00 sshd:
> > unknown [net]
> > sshd 21281  0.0  0.0   7128  1364 ?S09:14   0:00 sshd:
> > unknown [net]
> >
> > Some idea?
> >
>
> what does lsof -i:22  give you?  could be a ssh scanner, or something
> leaving open ssh connections.
>
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Re: IceWeasel and IceDove or other OS?

[Sunnz]

Well, I guess I kind of found it:
http://packages.debian.org/source/sid/iceweasel

Looks like that's where it can be started.


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Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

[Richard Lyons]

On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 10:14:15PM -0600, cothrige wrote:

> Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > I have to say, there is nothing friendly about that damn gnu. And that
> > statement is in no way a reflection on my views of GNU or it's
> > projects. Just that if we're gonna have a mascot, I lean more towards
> > the penguin/snarky-devil side of the debate than the smelly ruminant
> > side. 
> 
> I think most open source software tends to look like something from a
> group of high school kids, and one of the reasons is the whole mascot
> idea.  That daemon in the tennis shoes, the puffer fish, Tux and that

Hear hear!  Not so much high school as infantile.  Most of us grew out
of soft toys by the age of 8.  If linux weren't so damned brilliant, I
would shun it merely for the retarded graphics.

That said, I suppose a more "corporate" penguin could be designed...  As
to the ugly Debian swirl, well I've become used to it, but I do not see
what it is supposed to represent.  

Part of our problem is that OS is owned by a community of hackers,
whereas the big firms of proprietary software can employ graphic
designers and PR people to create the slick packaging necessary to sell
their crap.

On the other hand, I have to say that I am also disenchanted with the
continual revamping of corporate "identities", often throwing away
well-known and easily identified logos and house styles for blander more
modern replacements.  So I would like to see the Debian swirl
transmogrified into a style that looks professional and reliable rather
than necessarily throwing it out.  With my designer cap on, I would
also admit the possibility that the baby-toy penguin, which has become
so intimately associated with Linux, might also be recycled into an
acceptable logo.  Knopper to some extent has succeeded in doing this in
the graphics for the Knoppix distros, with the cunning combination of
tech drawing and cuddly plump proportions.  I say 'to some extent'
because, in fact, cuddly is not what is needed on the office desk
(during work hours at least).  We really should be seeking a more
reliable, sturdy, businesslike image, though preferably without becoming
boring and indistinguishable from the corporate world.

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Re: curious entries in apache2 log

[Richard Lyons]

On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 09:43:45PM -0800, Jeff D wrote:

> Vikki Roemer wrote:
> >On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 5:20 PM, Richard Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> >wrote:
> >>Can anyone enlighten me what is going on here?
> >>
> >> ::1 - - [27/Feb/2008:14:05:21 +] "GET /" 400 1063 "-" "-"
> >> ::1 - - [27/Feb/2008:14:05:25 +] "GET /" 400 1063 "-" "-"
> >> ::1 - - [27/Feb/2008:14:06:02 +] "GET /" 400 1063 "-" "-"
> >>
> >> I see blocks of these in the apache2 access.log.
> >
> >IIRC, it's either a worm/virus or something else automated.  I used to
> >see them all the time when I had my server.
> >
> 
> These are probably just apache keeping track of itself.  Nothing really 
> to worry about.

Oh good.  That is what I like to hear.

richard


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Problem with KVM switch and Screen Res...

[Frank Charles Gallacher]

Greetings,
I am running Debian GNU/Linux ("etch" kernel 2.6.18-6-686) on a PC with
an NVIDIA GeForce 6600 GT connected to a COMPAQ S710 Monitor.
I have just upgraded to the latest NVIDIA driver, using
"nvidia-installer".
It works fine, the only problem I having is when I introduce my trusty
KVM (Keyboard-Video-Mouse) switch, the thing that lets me swap between 2
PCs...

When I boot up with it connected, the Hardware Probe that checks the
capability of the Screen defaults back to 640x480, rather than 1280x1024
when the Monitor is plugged in directly; consequently I get a little
claustraphobic when trying to use it in this fashion...

Running Red Hat Linux 9, I could cheat by installing the OS with the
screen connected directly, then introduce the KVM into the loop after
the install and boot it up OK; Debian appears to be smarter and checks
it at boot time instead...

Is there a way to force the issue, and get X to start in 1280x1024 mode
with the KVM switch connected???

Thanking you, fcG.

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Re: Sending a bug report with reportbug fails

[Joona Kiiski]

Here is more info. ".reportbugrc" is standard generated stuff without
any modifications.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat .reportbugrc
# reportbug preferences file
# character encoding: UTF-8
# Version of reportbug this preferences file was written by
reportbug_version "3.39"
# default operating mode: one of: novice, standard, advanced, expert
mode standard
# default user interface
ui text
# offline setting - comment out to be online
#offline
# name and email setting (if non-default)
# realname "Joona Kiiski"
email "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
# Disable fallback mode by commenting out the following:
no-cc
header "X-Debbugs-CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]"
smtphost bugs.debian.org
# You can add other settings after this line.  See
# /etc/reportbug.conf for a full listing of options.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ host bugs.debian.org
bugs.debian.org has address 140.211.166.43
bugs.debian.org mail is handled by 0 bugs.debian.org.


By the way, is there any way to test reportbug without actually
reporting a bug. (test packet foo?)


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Re: [OT] ATX-PSU and amperage on connectors...

[Michelle Konzack]

Hello Henrique,

Am 2008-02-23 18:00:39, schrieb Henrique de Moraes Holschuh:
> Well, I recommend you go to extreme levels of output harmonics filtering,
> that alone will increase system stability a damn great deal.  Some tests
> using memory bit-rot testing a few years go (either by Ars Technica, or
> Tom's, I don't recall) nicely illustrated why one would want to do so.

In the specification "ATX12V" version 2.2 from 2005 is all documented
what is required.  Some of the requirements affect only the AC-PSUs and
not DC-PSU's...

I have for example a 3.3V Step-Down regulator which support 100A and you
can put a 100.000µF Electrolyt condensator on it and then PowerOn the PIG.

I was realy surprised about this High-Integrated MOSFET Step-Down
regulator and its stability.  I am using an 60MHz Oszilloskope with
memory and the stabilization was inside the ATX12V requirements.

And yes, Filtering the 24Vin is heavy...  since I have no real
experience with it and need some stuff to read.

Can you suggest Literature in english or german?

> And don't think for a single moment that you are designing for linear loads.
> Computers are [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED] unhelpful loads, and the 
> more efficient the

I am simulation some PIGs on my programmable Load...  :-)

OK, currently I have only 3.3V stuff availlable, but It seems, I have
to build a test-environement.  (I am using an USB-connected 48-Port
IO-Card which drive programmable loads from 0 to 100A and can switch
in less then 5ms, which is maybe not enough)

> power-saving features in use in a system, the worse its load profile is when
> it comes to harmonics.

...

> > Does anyone know, where I can get the specifications for it?
> 
> Yes.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATX, look at the external links section.

I have gotten from two peoples the ATX12V sepecs, one v1.1 from 2000
and one 2.2 from 2005 and it seems, there is all described what I
should know...

It rest only the REAL amperage on the several connectors...

I have already written it in a previosly (initial?) message that I want
to build the DC-PSU modular, which mean, if you want only to power the
Mainboard since it is a router and the HDD is a CF-Card on the MB, you
will need only the ATX-Module which could be between 60 and 100 Watt.

Oh, currently I am preparing some infos (only provisory) on



since I have the need for complete 36 DC-PSU's and I do not realy like
to develop them only for me since it is quiet expnsive for only 36
DC-PSUs.

> > How many ampers must a cable support?
> 
> Cable choice depends on cable length, and acceptable voltage drop at given
> load levels.  And you need to factor in in-rush and start current too if
> they are non-trivial (and they are non-trivial for disks, fans, and anything
> with high-drain CPUs or huge ammounts of RAM).

There are some real weird things in the ATX12V specification, since some
cables of my 600W AC-PSU have only 0.75mm² or 1.0mm² cables (arround 40cm
long) which definitivly do not support more then 10A whithou being
transformed into a heating-cable but the connectors should support
3.3V/18A or 5V/24A on the AUX Power connector.

> If you play the el-cheap-o game with the cables and electronics, you will
> get "nice" surprises when your systems face their first thermal challenge on
> the form of an unusual hot (or cool) day.

Thats not my route...

I can buy DC-DC-Converters from China but I have never seen sone, which
have an efficiency OVER 80% (ATX12V is talking about 66% but for AC PSUs
which are a VRY BIG no for my usage in Photopholtaik-Systems)

In the USA there are some Manufacturer which have ATX-Style DC-PSUs but
they cost between 320 and 580 US$.

I have currently not checked the Link from the UK, but I will try it
today.  (currently I have no HSDPA access...  do not know why)

So, I have found my microchips (e.g., High-Efficiency Step-Down
Regulators, Sequencers, OVP, and more) from Maxim, Dallas, NXP, AD and
others which fit my requirements.

The MAX8655 is one example...   But you need to solder them InfraRed or
something similar, which should no problem for me...   guess why!

The only thing which is currently not solved is the 24 Vin (18-30V) to
12Vout (and between 10 and 50A) which must be very stable and resistible
agains voltage waveing from the input...  If this problem is solved, it
is possible to produce an DC-PSU with 300W (out) for less then 60 Euro.

Also I try to get an experience with UPS-Electronic and I am searchin
for this highly intergated solutions, which mean, I wan to put an USB
connector into the PSU which can be connected to a free USB connector
on the Mainboard and be read like any other UPS...  so the 24Vin can
be whatched.  There would be an solution for a DS80C411 which can
controll the whole DC-PSU and pull the data out of the USB-Port but
I think, this can be an extra module in the C-PSU.

Thanks, Greetings and nice Day
Michelle Kon

Re: firewall or securety software

[Michelle Konzack]

Am 2008-02-24 14:24:12, schrieb steef:
> got a working firewall in my router plus shorewall installed and 
> working. on my machine together no problem at all. why?  the more 
> security the better i guess. hope this guess is right. BTW i was under 
> attack about a year ago. this attack was countered by the firewall in my 
> router.

I am under attack daily several 1000 times and have NO firewall,
also my server are exposed 24/7 to the internet and went not hacked
the last 8 years.

It depends, how you setup your Servers/Workstations but if you can
not secure a simpel computer with Debian-On-Board Methods,

HOW DO YOU WANT TO SETUP A FIREWALL

which is muck more complex and can contain 1000 times more errors.

Thanks, Greetings and nice Day
Michelle Konzack
Systemadministrator
Tamay Dogan Network
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Re: Software for collecting email addresses

[Michelle Konzack]

Hi Richard,

Am 2008-02-26 19:26:36, schrieb Richard Lyons:
> Oh Michelle, it's _you_ that sends me all those "Dear {EMAIL}, Try
> {PRODUCT} today FREE!!!..." emails.  And I thought it was spammers who
> were too dim to operate the mailmerge correctly.

Do you have tried it out?

If you have a bunch of different E-Mail-Addresses you can try it out on
your self, sending for example to 20 of your E-Mails the Debian Social
Contract or /usr/share/common-licences/GPL-2...

Then you can better imagine, how spamer send out several 1000 messages
from infected machines while ${DUMMY} is only loging into the Internet
to check its message on Hotmail/Yahoo...

It takes only some minutes on a ADSL2+ to get 1000 messages out...

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Re: libpcre3 security update on lenny not installed

[Michelle Konzack]

Hallo Jörg-Volker,

Am 2008-02-24 13:08:30, schrieb Jörg-Volker Peetz:
> As far as I know there is a security update available for the package libpcre3
> currently installed in lenny. But on my system the security update is not
> installed commanding
>   aptitude full-upgrade
> Checking with
>   apt-cache policy libpcre3
> shows
> 
> libpcre3:
>   Installed: 7.4-1
>   Candidate: 7.4-1
>   Version table:
>  7.6-2 0
> 500 ftp://ftp.de.debian.org unstable/main Packages
>  *** 7.4-1 0
   ^
> 600 ftp://ftp.de.debian.org testing/main Packages
> 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
>  6.7+7.4-2+lenny1 0
   

Because

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~] dpkg --compare-versions 7.4-1 gt 6.7+7.4-2+lenny1
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~] echo $?
0

the installed Version "7.4-1" is bigger then the
security update with Version "6.7+7.4-2+lenny1".

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Re: How to sort files in a directory?

[Michelle Konzack]

Am 2008-02-24 18:49:09, schrieb Tzafrir Cohen:
> Find indeed needs some help. It can only produce a list, and not very good 
> at sorting it out-of-order.
> 
>   find . -name \*.txt -printf '%f\n' | sort

Better:

find . -name "*.txt" |sort

which works nicely

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Re: PRINTER ON FIRE, HELP!!

[Michelle Konzack]

Am 2008-02-25 08:52:22, schrieb Ron Johnson:
> The escaped quotes are what really get me.  I think he typed this in
> using mailx and echo...

I think, he has used "sendmail" directly to write this messages...

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Re: How to sort files in a directory?

[Michelle Konzack]

Am 2008-02-24 17:51:48, schrieb Rodolfo Medina:
> Hi.
> 
> I want to sort all files with, say, .txt extension that are in the directory
> `/path/to/dir' and all its subdirectories, and I want to perform this search
> starting from the directory itself: how can I do that?
> 
> I didn't manage with `find'.
> 
> Thanks for any suggestion
> Rodolfo
> 
> e.g.: suppose that in my home directory there are dir1 and dir2 and the
> following files:
> ~/file ~/dir1/file1 ~/dir/file2
> I want the result of my search to be:
> file
> file1
> file2

find /path/to/dir -type f -name "*.txt" |sort

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Re: Help with man page display in Etch

[Michelle Konzack]

Am 2008-02-25 18:53:25, schrieb Paul E Condon:
> I'm trying to set up samba on etch in the USA. When I type
> man smb.conf I get a page which has strange multibyte sequences
> in it, e.g. “ and ” 

Woops!  This manpage seems to be written in UTF8

Do you have tried to us man under an UTF8 locale like en_US.UTF8?

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Best Distro for the consumers market ??

[stephane lepain]

Hi,

I have been reading couple of posts talking about different kind of 
distros, but what would you guys suggest as the best distro for the 
consumers market? There would be a need of stability and reliability. Of 
course, it would have to be easy to use for the end users.
As a complete newbie to IT and Linux, I have tested Mandriva 2008, 
Ubuntu, and now Debian etch and testing. I found Debian testing the best 
of all: etch being not very compatible with new hardware and software. 
Testing on the other hand is the most up to date distro, fairely 
compatible with newest technologie (software and hardware from the 
consumers market) and quite easy to maintain.
Yet, i would suppose that my opinion is quite biased and what I could 
suggest as the best distro for the consumers market might not be the 
case. So I would appreciate if you guys could give me your opinions.


Thank you all

PS: I tested all those distros on a AMD64 3800+


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Re: Help with man page display in Etch

[Thierry Chatelet]

On Wednesday 27 February 2008 15:47, Michelle Konzack wrote:
> Am 2008-02-25 18:53:25, schrieb Paul E Condon:
> > I'm trying to set up samba on etch in the USA. When I type
> > man smb.conf I get a page which has strange multibyte sequences
> > in it, e.g. “ and ”
>
> Woops!  This manpage seems to be written in UTF8
>
> Do you have tried to us man under an UTF8 locale like en_US.UTF8?
>
> Thanks, Greetings and nice Day
> Michelle Konzack


I am in enUS_UTF8 and I have the same “ and so on as Paul. I thought it 
was because this man was not in UTF8. So next: how do you know the charactere 
encoding of a man page?
Thierry


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Re: Flash removed from etch - process explained?

[Brian McKee]

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On 27-Feb-08, at 5:54 PM, Florian Kulzer wrote:


On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 12:16:16 -0500, Brian McKee wrote:

From a recent message on this list I saw a link to the 4.0r3 etch
release
http://lists.debian.org/debian-announce/2008/msg0.html

Going to that link I see that they have removed flash

Closed source and no security support


[...]


What is the normal Debian procedure here?


I think the main problem is that flash does not fit into the "normal
Debian procedure" for the stable distribution: New versions are not
supposed to be introduced to "stable" once it is released, but the
security fixes cannot be backported by the Debian security team  
because

flash is a closed application.


How can I find out who/how
this decision was made and why?


Look at the QA page of the package:

http://packages.qa.debian.org/f/flashplugin-nonfree.html

(more specifically, the "removed from stable" link)

or at the bugreports for the "ftp.debian.org" pseudo-package:

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=ftp.debian.org

(search for "flashplugin").

In both cases you end up with bug report #458550, in which the
maintainer himself requests the removal of the package.



Thanks Florian,

I really appreciate the fact that the reasons for decisions like these
are out in the open and justified, whether I agree with them or not :-)
e.g. this one is laid out pretty clearly



Most newer versions of the Adobe Flash Player are a combination of new
features and fixes for security bugs.  The Debian Security Team  
does not

support "contrib" and "non-free".  The Debian Stable Release Managers
Team does not support fast updates in "stable".  And "volatile" is not
meant to bring new features in "stable".

It is not acceptable that users of Debian "stable" use
flashplugin-nonfree to install the Adobe Flash Plugin, and not get
updates for security bugs in the Adobe Flash Plugin within reasonable
time.  And it is not acceptable that new features are thrown in  
"stable"

too soon too fast.




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Re: Best Distro for the consumers market ??

[iena unlike]

What version of ubuntu did you test ? because now, ( 7.10 ) Ubuntu simply
rocks. But it's naturally, if you use that in a VERY productivity
environment, Suse PRO Works better. The cost is stupid, in Italy the price
is about 80 euro... anyway not arrive to 100 euro...

IMHO, for you, is a very good solution, because the Pro version of Suse
works very very good.


On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 2:52 PM, stephane lepain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have been reading couple of posts talking about different kind of
> distros, but what would you guys suggest as the best distro for the
> consumers market? There would be a need of stability and reliability. Of
> course, it would have to be easy to use for the end users.
> As a complete newbie to IT and Linux, I have tested Mandriva 2008,
> Ubuntu, and now Debian etch and testing. I found Debian testing the best
> of all: etch being not very compatible with new hardware and software.
> Testing on the other hand is the most up to date distro, fairely
> compatible with newest technologie (software and hardware from the
> consumers market) and quite easy to maintain.
> Yet, i would suppose that my opinion is quite biased and what I could
> suggest as the best distro for the consumers market might not be the
> case. So I would appreciate if you guys could give me your opinions.
>
> Thank you all
>
> PS: I tested all those distros on a AMD64 3800+
>
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Re: Usermount

[Frank McCormick]

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On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 07:51:46 +0100
Sven Joachim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 2008-02-27 05:13 +0100, Frank McCormick wrote:
> 
> > Just installed usermount --- a graphical interface to mount/umount.
> > Problem is it won't allow me to mount/unmount anything.


> A general advice: if something does not work as expected, the first
> action should be to look in the BTS if the issue has already been
> reported.  It took me only one minute to find out
> http://bugs.debian.org/382914 which seems to explain the problem.
> 


   That's too bad. I thought it was a simple misconfiguration on my
part. BTW, if that's the case why is the usermode package still hanging
around in the repositories.


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Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

[Hal Vaughan]

On Thursday 28 February 2008, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 12:22:01AM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote:
> > I'd rather the same effort be put into the things that give Debian
> > its uniqueness in the first place.  Maybe I'm a snob on the
> > sysadmin/programmer end of things, but if someone has a reason to
> > need Debian instead of Ubuntu, if they find the current install
> > without a fancy GUI tough to use, then I seriously doubt they are
> > advanced enough to be using Debian.  In that case, they can try
> > many other distros.
>
> You do know Debian has a graphical installer, it's just not activated
> by default (you have to type 'instalgui').

I've heard that, but haven't bothered to check it out.

Hal


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Re: Problem with KVM switch and Screen Res...

[Raj Kiran Grandhi]

Frank Charles Gallacher wrote:

Greetings,
I am running Debian GNU/Linux ("etch" kernel 2.6.18-6-686) on a PC with
an NVIDIA GeForce 6600 GT connected to a COMPAQ S710 Monitor.
I have just upgraded to the latest NVIDIA driver, using
"nvidia-installer".
It works fine, the only problem I having is when I introduce my trusty
KVM (Keyboard-Video-Mouse) switch, the thing that lets me swap between 2
PCs...

When I boot up with it connected, the Hardware Probe that checks the
capability of the Screen defaults back to 640x480, rather than 1280x1024
when the Monitor is plugged in directly; consequently I get a little
claustraphobic when trying to use it in this fashion...

Running Red Hat Linux 9, I could cheat by installing the OS with the
screen connected directly, then introduce the KVM into the loop after
the install and boot it up OK; Debian appears to be smarter and checks
it at boot time instead...

Is there a way to force the issue, and get X to start in 1280x1024 mode
with the KVM switch connected???


I had the same problem when my computer boots up with the monitor 
switched off. This problem occurs because the nvidia driver queries the 
monitor for the modes it can support and disables those modes if the 
monitor is switched off (or can't be queried because of the KVM switch)


You can get around this by saving the edid data from the monitor to a 
file and load the file at X startup instead of querying the monitor 
every time. Run nvidia-settings, select your monitor and "Acquire EDID". 
Save the edid to some file. Then under the "Device" section of your 
/etc/X11/xorg.conf file, add the line:


Option  "CustomEDID""CRT-0:/root/edid.bin"

assuming your monitor is called CRT-0 and you have saved the edid file 
at /root/edid.bin





Thanking you, fcG.




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Re: mounting error USB stick

[Florian Kulzer]

On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 10:40:34 +, Adam Hardy wrote:
> Florian Kulzer on 27/02/08 22:01, wrote:
>> On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 10:01:54 +, Adam Hardy wrote:
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> On Sun February 24 2008, Adam Hardy wrote:
>>> Using xfce, Thunar used to pick up on the new usb storage device 
>>> and put an
>>> icon in its tree pane for me with the usb stick's name. Clicking on 
>>> that
>>> would then mount it to /media 
>>
>> [...]
>>
>>> So hal is actually meant to mount the usb stick automatically? Not just 
>>> show an
>>> icon in thunar? How about CDs?
>>
>> I don't know that; I guess that depends on the "philosophy" of
>> xfce/thunar. To the normal user it probably does not matter exactly
>> when the mounting happens, as long as he/she can click on the icon at
>> any time and access the media. 
>
> My philosophy is that I never remember that it's /dev/sda1 on this 
> machine because my memory is, er... what's the word again 

The advantage of a mounting mechanism that involves HAL is that you can
give volume labels to all your USB sticks/drives and they are then
always mounted under /media/, independent of plug-in order etc.
That is the reason why I suggested to use pmount-hal for testing, to see
if this mechanism works.

> Generally when copying stuff to a usb stick, I use the command line. So I 
> would appreciate automatic mounting of my usb stick to /media/somewhere. 
> Except that this 'automation' involves going from the command line into 
> thunar or the desktop and clicking to get it mounted.

[...]

> Do you run hal and does it mount usb sticks and cds automatically?

I get an icon on my KDE desktop whenever removable media is plugged in;
I can click on that icon and it is mounted at that moment and opened in
Konqueror. KDE can be configured to do the mounting automatically as
soon as the USB stick is detected, but I have not activated that option.

As far as I understand the design principle, something "higher up" than
HAL is meant to actually decide if the device is to be mounted
immediately and if there are any other actions to be taken, e.g.
launching a media player for an audio CD. HAL is only the means to
access the hardware in a well-defined, abstracted way; the mounting
itself is initiated by the KDE media service, the gnome volume manager
or equivalent components of other desktop environments. You can,
however, use HAL policy files to influence mount options and other
properties.

Since you want to be independent of the desktop environment, you might
want to run  ivman, usbmount, or a similar daemon. If I remember
correctly, it is difficult to ensure unique mount points with usbmount
since it relies on plug-in order. I like the concept of ivman better
because it relies on HAL, so it should not clash with a running desktop
environment. I have never tried ivman myself, though. Its sourceforge
page says it is currently in beta stage. (Both usbmount and ivman are
available in Etch.)

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Re: Best Distro for the consumers market ??

[Kamaraju S Kusumanchi]

stephane lepain wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I have been reading couple of posts talking about different kind of
> distros, but what would you guys suggest as the best distro for the
> consumers market? There would be a need of stability and reliability. Of
> course, it would have to be easy to use for the end users.
> As a complete newbie to IT and Linux, I have tested Mandriva 2008,
> Ubuntu, and now Debian etch and testing. I found Debian testing the best
> of all: etch being not very compatible with new hardware and software.
> Testing on the other hand is the most up to date distro, fairely
> compatible with newest technologie (software and hardware from the
> consumers market) and quite easy to maintain.

Whenever I advise someone to use Debian, I always ask them to install Stable
first. Then if they come back complaining about old versions of software or
incompatibility of hardware etc., then I give them a nice overview of
stable/testing/unstable versions of Debian and ask them to choose one of
that. If you would like to do that yourself, you can take a look at this
old write up of mine 
http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/debian_choosing_distribution.html

In your case, I would go with either Debian Stable or Ubuntu. Why Debian
Stable? Because Debian stable is very reliable, stable and never crashes.
Security support is awesome. Upgrading to next release is pretty painless.
Why Ubuntu? Simple things like installing proprietary drivers, wireless
configurations, suspend/resume functionality etc., work by default. You can
make them work the same way in Debian as well. But by default, the
user/admin is needed to roll up his sleeves and be prepared to get his
hands a bit soiled.

hth
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Re: Help with man page display in Etch

[cothrige]

Thierry Chatelet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Wednesday 27 February 2008 15:47, Michelle Konzack wrote:
>> Woops!  This manpage seems to be written in UTF8
>>
>> Do you have tried to us man under an UTF8 locale like en_US.UTF8?
>>
>> Thanks, Greetings and nice Day
>> Michelle Konzack
>
>
> I am in enUS_UTF8 and I have the same “ and so on as Paul. I thought it 
> was because this man was not in UTF8. So next: how do you know the charactere 
> encoding of a man page?
> Thierry

Could your terminal be one of those which doesn't support utf8 encoding,
like mrxvt?  If so you could just set LC_CTYPE or LANG to en_US and that
might clear it up.  Works for me anyway.

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Re: Aptitude error: The package index files are corrupted.

[Daniel Burrows]

On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 05:17:14PM +0800, Fan Liu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard 
to say:
> Hi all, 
> 
> I encountered such an error when I try to upgrade my debian lenny.
> 
> Writing extended state information... Error!
> E: The package index files are corrupted. No Filename: field for package 
> libdb4.5.
> 
> As Ken Caldweel suggested, I checked the file /var/lib/dpkg/available , but
> haven't found any entry started with 'Filename'.
> 
> http://lists.slug.org.au/archives/slug/2001/11/msg00358.html
> 
> Anyone know what the problem really is? Thanks a lot.

  It sounds to me like your package index files are corrupted.  Have you
tried running "aptitude update" to refresh them?  That might help.  If
not, I'm curious what "grep -A15 '^Package: libdb4\.5' /var/lib/apt/lists/*
prints.

  Daniel


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Re: How to sort files in a directory?

[Tzafrir Cohen]

On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 03:35:47PM +0100, Michelle Konzack wrote:
> Am 2008-02-24 18:49:09, schrieb Tzafrir Cohen:
> > Find indeed needs some help. It can only produce a list, and not very good 
> > at sorting it out-of-order.
> > 
> >   find . -name \*.txt -printf '%f\n' | sort
> 
> Better:
> 
> find . -name "*.txt" |sort

But this does what the OP did (Boo!) and not what he actually asked for.


mkdir z
touch z/a.txt
touch b.txt

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Uzeneted erkezett!

[Kicsiandika]

Udv!:)

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megeri elolvasnod, mert sok levelet kapunk vissza hogy majdnem kitorolte de 
azert csak megerte elolvasni, mert fantasztikus az oldal amit 
ajanlunk, es tenyleg az! Nalunk tiszta tartamat kapsz, semmi reklam semmi 
elougro ablak! Kerlek nezd meg:

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Koszonettel:

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ui.: email cimedet egy adatbazisbol kaptuk, amihez elozetesen hozzajarultal. 
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Re: Best Distro for the consumers market ??

[Matthew Macdonald-Wallace]

On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 14:52:49 +0100
stephane lepain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I have been reading couple of posts talking about different kind of 
> distros, but what would you guys suggest as the best distro for the 
> consumers market? There would be a need of stability and reliability.
> Of course, it would have to be easy to use for the end users.
> As a complete newbie to IT and Linux, I have tested Mandriva 2008, 
> Ubuntu, and now Debian etch and testing. I found Debian testing the
> best of all: etch being not very compatible with new hardware and
> software. Testing on the other hand is the most up to date distro,
> fairely compatible with newest technologie (software and hardware
> from the consumers market) and quite easy to maintain.
> Yet, i would suppose that my opinion is quite biased and what I could 
> suggest as the best distro for the consumers market might not be the 
> case. So I would appreciate if you guys could give me your opinions.
> 
> Thank you all
> 
> PS: I tested all those distros on a AMD64 3800+

Ubuntu.

Why? Because it works.  

Consumers don't care about freedom.  If they did, they're all be using
FOSS on the desktop right now and MS would go bust within days.
Consumers want a product that allows them to access YouTube, the BBC
and bittorrent/kazaa/ with minimal (possibly
0!) effort.

If I buy a laptop for my Dad or any other relative, I expect it to work
out of the box without any questions.  The new Dell Ubuntu-based
laptops do this. My Dad (and indeed probably 98% of consumers) doesn't
need anything more than a word processor, an email client and a web
browser.  OpenOffice, Firefox and Thunderbird do this very nicely.

Personally it's my belief that if you want a stable OS that you can
rely on for servers/corporate desktops, use Debian/Gentoo/RHEL/SuSE.
If you want a desktop that has the software you need for a Personal
Computer, use Ubuntu.

My £0.02,

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Error en la instalacion de Lenny

[Jose Manuel]

La imagen de instalacion de lenny se cuelga al 65% en el punto de..

Instalando " ssl-cert "

Saludos

Jose Manuel Aguilar
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Re: windings and acroread

[Ulrich Scholz]

> I don't believe you.  (Well, maybe it was 3 years ago, but not
> today.  Do you havehttp://www.debian-multimedia.orgin your
> sources.list?)

I do:

deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org testing main

Re: Best Distro for the consumers market ??

[stephane lepain]

Matthew Macdonald-Wallace a écrit :

On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 14:52:49 +0100
stephane lepain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  

Hi,

I have been reading couple of posts talking about different kind of 
distros, but what would you guys suggest as the best distro for the 
consumers market? There would be a need of stability and reliability.

Of course, it would have to be easy to use for the end users.
As a complete newbie to IT and Linux, I have tested Mandriva 2008, 
Ubuntu, and now Debian etch and testing. I found Debian testing the

best of all: etch being not very compatible with new hardware and
software. Testing on the other hand is the most up to date distro,
fairely compatible with newest technologie (software and hardware
from the consumers market) and quite easy to maintain.
Yet, i would suppose that my opinion is quite biased and what I could 
suggest as the best distro for the consumers market might not be the 
case. So I would appreciate if you guys could give me your opinions.


Thank you all

PS: I tested all those distros on a AMD64 3800+



Ubuntu.

Why? Because it works.  


Consumers don't care about freedom.  If they did, they're all be using
FOSS on the desktop right now and MS would go bust within days.
Consumers want a product that allows them to access YouTube, the BBC
and bittorrent/kazaa/ with minimal (possibly
0!) effort.

If I buy a laptop for my Dad or any other relative, I expect it to work
out of the box without any questions.  The new Dell Ubuntu-based
laptops do this. My Dad (and indeed probably 98% of consumers) doesn't
need anything more than a word processor, an email client and a web
browser.  OpenOffice, Firefox and Thunderbird do this very nicely.

Personally it's my belief that if you want a stable OS that you can
rely on for servers/corporate desktops, use Debian/Gentoo/RHEL/SuSE.
If you want a desktop that has the software you need for a Personal
Computer, use Ubuntu.

My £0.02,

M.
  
Point taken there. Though, I had so much trouble running Ubuntu 7.10 
that I gave it up. I remember in particular trying to use flash 
technology on my AMD64 with Ubuntu 7.10. I used Iceweasel and Epiphany 
but both crashed nonstop. After that I went for Debian and it was so 
easy to run and maintain that I kept using it. May be I should try 
Ubuntu again, but I dread it :) (As a newbie of course). Like you said 
though, I am using Debian testing in a very simple way.
I think the most important for me is the spirit in which Debian is run. 
It tries to stay free of any proprietary software and/or hardware. 
Ubuntu is unable to say the same. I believe (but again my opinion my not 
count here because of my lack of experience) but anything that becomes 
proprietary has a tendency to become crap (ie windows). Then it becomes 
just a money making machine. It locks people into a world and don't give 
them any choice at all to move away. Not that I mind people making 
money, but if they make money with a crap software or piece of hardware 
then it becomes an issue.



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Re: Problem with KVM switch and Screen Res...

[Frank Charles Gallacher]

Thnx 1.0E6 Raj, it worked a treat!!!

(I am amazed at the response and accuracy of debian lists;
I must be learning how to suck eggs...)

TA, fcG.

On Thu, 2008-02-28 at 20:07 +0530, Raj Kiran Grandhi wrote:
> Frank Charles Gallacher wrote:
> > Greetings,
> > I am running Debian GNU/Linux ("etch" kernel 2.6.18-6-686) on a PC with
> > an NVIDIA GeForce 6600 GT connected to a COMPAQ S710 Monitor.
> > I have just upgraded to the latest NVIDIA driver, using
> > "nvidia-installer".
> > It works fine, the only problem I having is when I introduce my trusty
> > KVM (Keyboard-Video-Mouse) switch, the thing that lets me swap between 2
> > PCs...
> > 
> > When I boot up with it connected, the Hardware Probe that checks the
> > capability of the Screen defaults back to 640x480, rather than 1280x1024
> > when the Monitor is plugged in directly; consequently I get a little
> > claustraphobic when trying to use it in this fashion...
> > 
> > Running Red Hat Linux 9, I could cheat by installing the OS with the
> > screen connected directly, then introduce the KVM into the loop after
> > the install and boot it up OK; Debian appears to be smarter and checks
> > it at boot time instead...
> > 
> > Is there a way to force the issue, and get X to start in 1280x1024 mode
> > with the KVM switch connected???
> 
> I had the same problem when my computer boots up with the monitor 
> switched off. This problem occurs because the nvidia driver queries the 
> monitor for the modes it can support and disables those modes if the 
> monitor is switched off (or can't be queried because of the KVM switch)
> 
> You can get around this by saving the edid data from the monitor to a 
> file and load the file at X startup instead of querying the monitor 
> every time. Run nvidia-settings, select your monitor and "Acquire EDID". 
> Save the edid to some file. Then under the "Device" section of your 
> /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, add the line:
> 
> Option  "CustomEDID""CRT-0:/root/edid.bin"
> 
> assuming your monitor is called CRT-0 and you have saved the edid file 
> at /root/edid.bin
> 
> 
> > 
> > Thanking you, fcG.
> > 
> 
> 
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Re: Error en la instalacion de Lenny

[e s]

Jose Manuel wrote:

La imagen de instalacion de lenny se cuelga al 65% en el punto de..

Instalando " ssl-cert "

Saludos

Jose Manuel Aguilar
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exactly the same error here, 65%, and I made two different CDs

hope it will be fixed I want Lenny!
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Re: Best Distro for the consumers market ??

[Tony van der Hoff]

On 28 Feb at 14:52 Kamaraju S Kusumanchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>[snip]
> In your case, I would go with either Debian Stable or Ubuntu. Why Debian
> Stable? Because Debian stable is very reliable, stable and never crashes.

Oh, yes it does :(

As a recent convert from Mandriva, I was disappointed to find that it
crashed every Sunday morning; nothing in any log file.

Turns out to be bug #327355, unresolved for 2.5 years, in ide-tape, which
was being called from Amanda after doing the weekly backup. Moving to
ide-scsi (which is deprecated and not available in the stock kernel)
overcomes the problem. I've raised a new bug report (467291), but no
response yet.

Whilst I like Debian, I'm surprised that the maintainers can let this
situation prevail. But I guess it's a kernel bug, not specific to Debian.
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Re: Error en la instalacion de Lenny

[Pol Hallen]

> La imagen de instalacion de lenny se cuelga al 65% en el punto de..
> Instalando " ssl-cert "
try to kill the process that run ssl-cert
 
Pol


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Re: amanda - how is it running?!

[Dave Sherohman]

On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 05:04:53PM +, michael wrote:
> I just noticed a "amanda" dir in 
> 
> /[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cd /tmp;ls -alt|head
> total 1831672
> drwxrwxrwt 24 rootroot 135168 Feb 27 16:50 ./
> {}
> drwx--S---  2 backup  backup 4096 Feb 27 12:29 amanda/
> 
> which I didn't recognise. I see that it's some backup software. Whilst
> it's likely I played with it once I can't see anything in /etc/cron as
> to why it should be running again... any ideas? Or shall I just hose it
> and 'apt-get remove --purge' it?

It's been a couple years since I last adminned amanda but, from memory,
/tmp/amanda appears only on client systems.  Backups are initiated by
the server when it is ready to receive them, so there wouldn't be any
cron jobs or the like on the client side, just a port open (most likely
defined in /etc/inetd) so that the server can contact the client and
tell it to dump its data.

Of course, this isn't quite so cut-and-dried because the server is often
also one of its own clients.

In any case, though, if you're not using amanda for backups and you
don't want to be using amanda for backups, then I would recommend
removing it, yes.  It shouldn't hurt anything and, even though amanda
has a good history for security, removing it will still mean one less
place that an exploit could exist on the system.

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Re: windings and acroread

[Andrei Popescu]

On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 07:56:54AM -0800, Ulrich Scholz wrote:
> > I don't believe you.  (Well, maybe it was 3 years ago, but not
> > today.  Do you havehttp://www.debian-multimedia.orgin your
> > sources.list?)
> 
> I do:
> 
> deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org testing main

On my machine I get this:

$ apt-cache policy acroread
acroread:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 8.1.2-0.0
  Version table:
 8.1.2-0.0 0
500 http://www.debian-multimedia.org sid/main Packages


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gnome-volume-manager

[Freddy Freeloader]

Is anyone else having problems with gnome-volume-manager?  I'm running 
Sid with apt-get upgrade last run yesterday. 

gvm is not running as a daemon and when I run "gnome-volume-manager" at 
a bash prompt either as a regular user or as root I get the error that 
the command is not found.  It is installed.  So is gnome-mount, and hald 
is running.  I'm a member of the plugdev and cdrom groups. 

It's really odd as I can burn cds and dvds with k3b, but then the drive 
won't read them.  It tells me that the checksum failed after checking 
the "verify" option k3b.  However, the drive will read the same disks 
and they work fine in another computer.   The other thing that's really 
odd is that the drive will recognize blank disks and display an icon for 
them on the desktop, but as soon as I write data to that cd it will no 
longer recognize it unless I manually mount either /dev/hdb or 
/media/cdrom0 as root. 

I have a machine that runs Etch and /usr/bin/gnome-volume-manager exists 
on it.  It doesn't exist on my machine that runs Sid. 

Anyone know what's going on with this? 



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Re: Help with man page display in Etch

[Andrei Popescu]

On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 08:54:13AM -0600, cothrige wrote:
> Thierry Chatelet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > On Wednesday 27 February 2008 15:47, Michelle Konzack wrote:
> >> Woops!  This manpage seems to be written in UTF8
> >>
> >> Do you have tried to us man under an UTF8 locale like en_US.UTF8?
> >>
> >> Thanks, Greetings and nice Day
> >> Michelle Konzack
> >
> >
> > I am in enUS_UTF8 and I have the same “ and so on as Paul. I thought 
> > it 
> > was because this man was not in UTF8. So next: how do you know the 
> > charactere 
> > encoding of a man page?
> > Thierry
> 
> Could your terminal be one of those which doesn't support utf8 encoding,
> like mrxvt?  If so you could just set LC_CTYPE or LANG to en_US and that
> might clear it up.  Works for me anyway.

Hey guys, before you take your systems apart have a look at bug #418811.

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Re: Error en la instalacion de Lenny

[e s]

Pol Hallen wrote:

La imagen de instalacion de lenny se cuelga al 65% en el punto de..
Instalando " ssl-cert "

try to kill the process that run ssl-cert
 
Pol




and how do you do that from the install CD?
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Printer driver

[Loeghmon T. Nejad]

I am trying to setup a Dell 1710n printer on Lenny, but I do not know which
model/driver it is compatible with. All I know it is made by Lexmark. I have
tried a range of HP and Lexmark models, at no avail. Has anyone used a Dell
printer like this with Debian? Thank you all.

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Re: Printer driver

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Haven't used that Dell model, but it looks roughly like a Lexmark e230.

If you don't have a specific driver for it, (and dell doesn't provide  
them?) try a generic postscript which should work.


Point your browser at it and it'll probably have links to drivers  
right on it's built in webpage  (assuming Dell didn't completely  
lobotomize it)


For Lexmark you could try this  although note I have not used Lexmark drivers in Debian.  I  
have installed their ppd files from the tar ball on all our Mandrake  
machines with great results.  We've been quite happy with our Lexmark  
laser printers under Linux.


HTH,
Brian

On 28-Feb-08, at 12:28 PM, Loeghmon T. Nejad wrote:

I am trying to setup a Dell 1710n printer on Lenny, but I do not  
know which model/driver it is compatible with. All I know it is  
made by Lexmark. I have tried a range of HP and Lexmark models, at  
no avail. Has anyone used a Dell printer like this with Debian?  
Thank you all.


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Re: Error en la instalacion de Lenny

[Alfredo Finol]

e s wrote:

Pol Hallen wrote:

La imagen de instalacion de lenny se cuelga al 65% en el punto de..
Instalando " ssl-cert "

try to kill the process that run ssl-cert
 
Pol




and how do you do that from the install CD?
-e


just you have to go to tty2 or tty3 (with ctrl+alt+f2 or ctrl+alt+f3), 
and then kill -9 process_number. When the installation is finished, try 
to upgrade the system.


I recomend to you, install base system, then install grub and finally 
install pakages you want. I had the same problem



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Re: Printer driver

[Florian Kulzer]

On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 12:28:08 -0500, Loeghmon T. Nejad wrote:
> I am trying to setup a Dell 1710n printer on Lenny, but I do not know which
> model/driver it is compatible with. All I know it is made by Lexmark. I have
> tried a range of HP and Lexmark models, at no avail. Has anyone used a Dell
> printer like this with Debian? Thank you all.

The closest matches I can find in the printer database on
openprinting.org are:

http://www.openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Dell-1710
http://www.openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Lexmark-E232

Based on the information given in these pages, I would try the following
drivers:

HP Laserjet 5 Foomatic/hpijs
HP Laserjet 5 Foomatic/lj5gray
HP Laserjet 5 Foomatic/pxlmono

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Re: Best Distro for the consumers market ??

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On 02/28/08 09:54, Matthew Macdonald-Wallace wrote:
[snip]
> 
> Ubuntu.
> 
> Why? Because it works.  
> 
> Consumers don't care about freedom.  If they did, they're all be using
> FOSS on the desktop right now and MS would go bust within days.
> Consumers want a product that allows them to access YouTube, the BBC
> and bittorrent/kazaa/ with minimal (possibly
> 0!) effort.

I'd say that this is an inadequate list.

Young children go to web sites that use Shockwave, and there are
plenty of specialty web sites that want to install an ActiveX
component.  Then there are the people who need specialized apps
because they bring work home.

And then there are people like me who telecommute.  I *need* a
Windows machine sitting next to my personal Linux box because
corporate email & calendaring is Exchange, and Windows has
*complete* VT220 emulators and Cisco VPN client software.  (Yes, I
want separate machines, because it's just a good idea to keep
business and personal data apart.)

> If I buy a laptop for my Dad or any other relative, I expect it to work
> out of the box without any questions.  The new Dell Ubuntu-based
> laptops do this. My Dad (and indeed probably 98% of consumers) doesn't
> need anything more than a word processor, an email client and a web
> browser.  OpenOffice, Firefox and Thunderbird do this very nicely.
> 
> Personally it's my belief that if you want a stable OS that you can
> rely on for servers/corporate desktops, use Debian/Gentoo/RHEL/SuSE.
> If you want a desktop that has the software you need for a Personal
> Computer, use Ubuntu.

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Re: Unable to boot on encrypted root after upgrading testing

[Andrew Sackville-West]

On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 11:20:07AM +, Kjo wrote:
> I booted on an install CD ins rescue mode and tried this tuto : 
> http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Rescue/Crypto
> 
> # cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/hda2 sda2_crypt
> works
> 
> # vgchange -a y [vg]
> works
> 
> # mount /dev/[vg]/root /target
> fails, and outputs :
> # mount: Mounting /dev/[vg]/root on /target failed: Invalid argument
> 
> when specifing fs type it does the same: 
> # mount -t xfs /dev/[vg]/root /target
> fails, and outputs :
> # mount: Mounting /dev/[vg]/root on /target failed: Invalid argument

wow that's weird. 

> 
> Also I noticed that fdisk -l says that 
> #Disk /dev/dm-* doesn't contain a valid partition table
> where * is any integer in range [0-3], which represents my virtual 
> partitions created by device-mapper, if I remenber well. Is that normal ?

that's how mine behave. 

It looks to me like the problem is actually in mount and not in
lvm. The question is why are you getting "invalid argument"... Do you
have some special characters in the volume names perhaps?

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Re: Usermount

[Sjoerd Hiemstra]

On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 11:13:57PM -0500, Frank McCormick wrote:
> Just installed usermount --- a graphical interface to mount/umount.
> Problem is it won't allow me to mount/unmount anything.

Starting usermount, I get this message: "There are no filesystems which
you are allowed to mount or unmount. Contact your administrator."

That is what you are referring to?  Following the suggestion at
http://www.archivum.info/linux.debian.bugs.dist/2006-09/msg09928.html
I added the option 'pamconsole' in /etc/fstab.
usermount does show mountable partitions/devices after that, but then
bumps into another problem while trying to mount them.
'dmesg | tail' shows why:

EXT3-fs: Unrecognized mount option "pamconsole"

Tried the version from Sid, but no luck either.
Some googling reveals that usermount does not appear to work together
with hal.

Seems to be an unresolved problem.


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Re: Error en la instalacion de Lenny

[e s]

Alfredo Finol wrote:

e s wrote:

Pol Hallen wrote:

La imagen de instalacion de lenny se cuelga al 65% en el punto de..
Instalando " ssl-cert "

try to kill the process that run ssl-cert
 
Pol




and how do you do that from the install CD?
-e


just you have to go to tty2 or tty3 (with ctrl+alt+f2 or ctrl+alt+f3), 
and then kill -9 process_number. When the installation is finished, try 
to upgrade the system.


I recomend to you, install base system, then install grub and finally 
install pakages you want. I had the same problem




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Intel Graphics Drivers

[David A. Parker]

Hello,

I am attempting to compile the graphics drivers from 
www.intellinuxgraphics.com on Debian Etch but I am having some problems. 
 I downloaded the necessary source trees from their git repository 
using the links provided in the downloads section of that page.  I have 
been trying to compile them per the instructions found here:


http://www.intellinuxgraphics.com/install.html

When I run autogen.sh I get the following output:

# ./autogen.sh
autoreconf2.50: Entering directory `.'
autoreconf2.50: configure.ac: not using Gettext
autoreconf2.50: running: aclocal  --output=aclocal.m4t
aclocal: configure.ac: 41: macro `AM_PROG_CC_C_O' not found in library
aclocal: configure.ac: 219: macro `AM_CFLAGS' not found in library
autoreconf2.50: aclocal failed with exit status: 1

I am not very familiar with autoconf or autoreconf, but the problem 
seems to be this set of macro calls in the configure.ac file:


# Checks for programs.
AC_DISABLE_STATIC
AC_PROG_LIBTOOL
AC_PROG_CC
AM_PROG_CC_C_O

I have Googled this problem but I haven't found much in the way of 
possible solutions.  I have installed the packages git, git-core, 
git-arch, git-completion, git-cvs, and git-svn but the problem persists. 
 Does anyone have any suggestions to try, or has anyone else 
successfully compiled these drivers under Etch?


Thanks,
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Re: Digikam - Camera not recognized correctly

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On 02/23/08 13:41, Chris wrote:
> after a recent upgrade in testing, digikam does not recognize my Olympus 
> fe-190 camera correctly anymore.  Instead, it reports the camera as a Olympus 
> C-310Z and fails to connect.
> 
> Using PTP USB mode it is possible to connect, but not with the functionality 
> I 
> had before (new pictures are recognized for instance).
> 
> Does anyone have any suggestions for me, should I post a bug-report to 
> digikam?

Sid
gphoto2 2.4.0-1
gthumb 2.10.5-2 (but that doesn't matter)

May be irrelevant, but I just got an FE-340, and gphoto2 (which
digikam uses to take to the camera) sees it perfectly in MTP (is
that the same as PTP?) mode.  In "storage" mode, gphoto2 thinks it's
a C-310Z, and can't see that there are pictures.

Since I delete all files from the camera when I attach to the
camera, maybe ignorance is bliss regarding the missing features.

So,

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No more AMD-K7 kernels?

[Curt Howland]

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I've looked through the debian-kernel and debian-user archives, and I 
don't find a discussion of this.

Does anyone know why the -k7 precompiled kernel was dropped? Two of my 
machines are Athalons.

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Additional RAM brings Lenny to a slow-down

[andy]

Hi all

My question is: are there any known limits on the amount of RAM Lenny 
can operate with?


I have a Lenny machine with an FSB800 board using an Intel P4 chip and 
has 2 x DDR2-533 RAM slots. I know that the board is supported in Linux 
http://www.linuxhardware.org/article.php?story=03/08/19/1521256 and I 
have run Lenny on this machine previously with no worries.


I installed two identical 1Gb RAM chips and while the machine runs just 
fine with 1Gb it grinds to a halt with 2Gb, taking up to a full 10 
minutes from loading GRUB to logging onto to GDM.


I have ensured that the BIOS can handle hi-mem, and as it boots fine, 
there is no reason to believe that the problem is there. That leaves the 
software. Is there a switch or some adjustment to tweak to make Lenny 
utilise the additional RAM properly?


TIA

Andy

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Re: No more AMD-K7 kernels?

[Freddy Freeloader]

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I've looked through the debian-kernel and debian-user archives, and I 
don't find a discussion of this.


Does anyone know why the -k7 precompiled kernel was dropped? Two of my 
machines are Athalons.


Curt-

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I can't tell you why the move away from K7 and K8 kernels was made, only 
that the amd64 kernel in the i386 release replaces both of them.  



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Re: No more AMD-K7 kernels?

[Alan Ianson]

On Thu February 28 2008 10:29:54 am Curt Howland wrote:
> I've looked through the debian-kernel and debian-user archives, and I
> don't find a discussion of this.
>
> Does anyone know why the -k7 precompiled kernel was dropped? Two of my
> machines are Athalons.

I've been wondering about this to. The 2.6.24 kernels in unstable have the 
2.6-k7 meta package but no kernel to go along with them. I'll be watching 
this thread to see if someone can tell us why. I also have two Athlons.


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Re: usbcore and ndiswrapper for toshiba laptop

[Florian Kulzer]

On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 18:56:21 -0500, diane mittnik wrote:
> Toshiba laptop A215-S7422, debian etch installed
> # uname -a: 2.6.22-4-amd64 #1 SMP Tue Feb 12 10:29:27 UTC 2008 x86_64 
> GNU/Linux
> 
> I'm following the instructions here:
> 
> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-wireless-networking-41/trying-to-load-module-ndiswrapper-with-modprobe-modprobe-ndiswrapper-doesnt-work-322203/?s=16932898c44a3ad09908835b182b666d
> if link above broken, look here:
> http://tinyurl.com/2a9jcj
> 
> 
> I have the ndiswrapper deb installed, ndiswrapper-utils-1.9, deb
> version 1.28-1 (stable), but usbcore appears to be missing.

I think you do not have to worry about the usbcore module; AFAIK it is
always compiled into the Debian kernels. You can check this easily:

$ grep 'CONFIG_USB[= ]' /boot/config-$(uname -r)
CONFIG_USB=y

(For a module you would see "...=m"; "# CONFIG_USB is not set" would
 mean that it is not included at all, which is extremely unlikely.)

Are you actually trying to get a USB-based network card to work, or are
you only worried about usbcore because it is mentioned in the
linuxquestions.org discussion? To deal with problems related to USB
devices, we need to see the output of "lsusb".

> The relevant info:

[...]

> # modprobe ndiswrapper
> FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found

[...]

> I tried
> compiling ndiswrapper with module-assistant, and got an error message:
> 
> /usr/src/modules/ndiswrapper/ndis.c:1862: warning: unused variable 
> 'radio_status'

Is this the only warning or error message?

> which is referenced as a debian bug:
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=419057

Maybe you have to use the newer ndiswrapper source available in Lenny.

> # lspci

[...]

> 08:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8101E PCI 
> Express Fast Ethernet controller (rev 01)

Which ethernet card/chipset are you trying to get going, this one?
Check with "lspci -nn" if it is identified as "[10ec:8136]"; in that
case it should be supported by the r8169 module, which is included in
the standard Debian kernels.

(The linuxquestions.org thread that you referenced above mentions
 different devices, so it also does not tell us with which hardware you
 are actually having problems.)

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Re: Additional RAM brings Lenny to a slow-down

[Jochen Schulz]

andy:
> 
> My question is: are there any known limits on the amount of RAM Lenny  
> can operate with?

No, but I think you have hit a problem Linux has with certain mainboards
that I have read about a few times already. I don't know the exact
solution anymore but it involves telling the kernel how much memory you
have. It's something like a 'mem=M' boot parameter.

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finding network printers

[Jimmy Wu]

Excuse me for the noobishness of the question, but I have been
googling around and haven't had any luck.

It seems all the howtos and guides out there about adding network
printers assume prior knowledge of all the information and IP of the
printer one would like to add.  I was wondering if there was a tool to
scan the network for all available shared printers on the network.

The situation is, sometimes I connect my laptop to a rather large
network at school or some other place, and I would like to be able to
print but I don't know the network location / address of the printer.
The network contains both Mac and Windows computers (but no Linux
boxes, AFAIK).  However, I believe that doesn't matter because the
network printers all have their own IP and are not connected to any
specific computer.

BTW, I am running Debian Sid + Xfce4 on a Thinkpad T61.

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Re: No more AMD-K7 kernels?

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On 02/28/08 14:47, Alan Ianson wrote:
> On Thu February 28 2008 10:29:54 am Curt Howland wrote:
>> I've looked through the debian-kernel and debian-user archives, and I
>> don't find a discussion of this.
>>
>> Does anyone know why the -k7 precompiled kernel was dropped? Two of my
>> machines are Athalons.
> 
> I've been wondering about this to. The 2.6.24 kernels in unstable have the 
> 2.6-k7 meta package but no kernel to go along with them. I'll be watching 
> this thread to see if someone can tell us why. I also have two Athlons.

Your machine won't die just because there's no -k7 kernel.  Just use
the -686.

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Re: Additional RAM brings Lenny to a slow-down

[andy]

Jochen Schulz wrote:

andy:
  
My question is: are there any known limits on the amount of RAM Lenny  
can operate with?



No, but I think you have hit a problem Linux has with certain mainboards
that I have read about a few times already. I don't know the exact
solution anymore but it involves telling the kernel how much memory you
have. It's something like a 'mem=M' boot parameter.

J.
  
Thanks for that clue Jochen. I am running the 2.6.22-3-686 kernel. Can 
anyone verify this and what the parameters are that need to be passed to 
the kernel? Is this likely to require my recompiling the kernel?


Cheers

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Re: libpcre3 security update on lenny not installed

[Jörg-Volker Peetz]

Thanks for your support.
Meanwhile the security team has released the correct update for testing/lenny 
with version number 7.4-1+lenny1.

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replace cpu on debian etch

[Rick Dooling]

I am not a hardware person. I have an old AMD Athlon XP chip 2700 that
just quit working (I think) on an ASUS A7V8X motherboard.

If I replace with any socket A Athlon, say, a 2600, instead, same FSB
and such, will I have to reinstall Debian, or will the same Kernel and
install work okay with my current installation?

I'm running Etch with the latest Etch and with whatever k7 kernels it
gives me during normal updates.

Thank you for any help.

RD


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Re: Best Distro for the consumers market ??

[Kamaraju S Kusumanchi]

Tony van der Hoff wrote:

> On 28 Feb at 14:52 Kamaraju S Kusumanchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
> in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
>>[snip]
>> In your case, I would go with either Debian Stable or Ubuntu. Why Debian
>> Stable? Because Debian stable is very reliable, stable and never crashes.
> 
> Oh, yes it does :(
> 

Ok. May be I should have said Debian stable is very reliable, stable and
never crashes on my hardware.

> As a recent convert from Mandriva, I was disappointed to find that it
> crashed every Sunday morning; nothing in any log file.
> 
> Turns out to be bug #327355, unresolved for 2.5 years, in ide-tape, which
> was being called from Amanda after doing the weekly backup.

Sorry about that. I have looked at the bug but can't help you much as I can
neither run that kernel (mine is a Pentium processor) nor do I own any IDE
tapes.

>  Moving to ide-scsi (which is deprecated and not available in the
>  stock kernel) overcomes the problem.

No one has mentioned in the bug log of #327355. Why don't you add it there
so that others experiencing that problem will at least have a work around.

> I've raised a new bug report (467291), but no 
> response yet.

You opened it on just couple of days ago. I think you need to give the
maintainers more time than that.

> 
> Whilst I like Debian, I'm surprised that the maintainers can let this
> situation prevail. But I guess it's a kernel bug, not specific to Debian.

Right! Upstream bugs are always painful. We should ask the upstream to fix
it rather than making Debian the scapegoat.


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Re: replace cpu on debian etch

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On 02/28/08 13:51, Rick Dooling wrote:
> I am not a hardware person. I have an old AMD Athlon XP chip 2700 that
> just quit working (I think) on an ASUS A7V8X motherboard.
> 
> If I replace with any socket A Athlon, say, a 2600, instead, same FSB
> and such, will I have to reinstall Debian, or will the same Kernel and
> install work okay with my current installation?

No.  Windows may do such shenanigans, but Linux doesn't.

> I'm running Etch with the latest Etch and with whatever k7 kernels it
> gives me during normal updates.
> 
> Thank you for any help.
> 
> RD
> 
> 


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I'm BACK!!!

[Doug MacFarlane]

Well, about 4 years ago I had to give up Debian for professional reasons.  After
suffering through Red Hat, CentOS and Suse/SLED/SLES and the abominable package
management, I'm BACK!!!  

Boy did I miss you guys . . . 

So I ran the 4.0 r3 netinst, and just for giggles ran an apt-get update and
apt-get upgrade.  Nothing needed, but cool.

Looking at sources.list, it appears we now use distribution names, such as etch,
instead of stable and testing and unstable to name the hierarchies?  Is this
correct?

The Debian Installed didn't pickup the built-in sound card on my Dell XPS 200. 
No surprise there - neither did Suse/SLED.

I'm on a jihad to rid my life of Windows.  I converted my laptop some time ago,
and then deleted the windows vista partition about a month ago.  Now it's time
for my desktop.  I need some guidance:

1.  Who would like to help me with the Sound Card issue?  We can do it via email
offline from this list.  I've never been really good with loading modules and
drivers . . . 

2.  What to do about sync'ing with my Treo 750 (running windows mobile 6).  I'd
like for gmail/google calendar to be my authority, and use imap on my laptop and
desktop (evolution - any other suggestions?), but how do we deal with sync'ing,
especially contacts, to the Treo/WinMobile?

3.  Windows emulation.  My parents will visit in 2.5 weeks and will want Pretty
Good Solitaire because it has a game called Thirteen Packs in it that is an old
family favorite.

4.  I'm going to run VMware Workstation or Server - I use Dragon Naturally
Speaking to do speech to text conversion of meetings that I record on my Olympus
pocket recorder.  Unless you have a better idea . . . 

Thanks in advance - I'm so glad to be back.

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Re: I'm BACK!!!

[Owen Townend]

On 2/29/08, Doug MacFarlane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well, about 4 years ago I had to give up Debian for professional reasons.  
> After
>  suffering through Red Hat, CentOS and Suse/SLED/SLES and the abominable 
> package
>  management, I'm BACK!!!
>
>  Boy did I miss you guys . . .
>
>  So I ran the 4.0 r3 netinst, and just for giggles ran an apt-get update and
>  apt-get upgrade.  Nothing needed, but cool.
>
>  Looking at sources.list, it appears we now use distribution names, such as 
> etch,
>  instead of stable and testing and unstable to name the hierarchies?  Is this
>  correct?
>
>  The Debian Installed didn't pickup the built-in sound card on my Dell XPS 
> 200.
>  No surprise there - neither did Suse/SLED.
>
>  I'm on a jihad to rid my life of Windows.  I converted my laptop some time 
> ago,
>  and then deleted the windows vista partition about a month ago.  Now it's 
> time
>  for my desktop.  I need some guidance:
>
>  1.  Who would like to help me with the Sound Card issue?  We can do it via 
> email
>  offline from this list.  I've never been really good with loading modules and
>  drivers . . .
>
>  2.  What to do about sync'ing with my Treo 750 (running windows mobile 6).  
> I'd
>  like for gmail/google calendar to be my authority, and use imap on my laptop 
> and
>  desktop (evolution - any other suggestions?), but how do we deal with 
> sync'ing,
>  especially contacts, to the Treo/WinMobile?
>
>  3.  Windows emulation.  My parents will visit in 2.5 weeks and will want 
> Pretty
>  Good Solitaire because it has a game called Thirteen Packs in it that is an 
> old
>  family favorite.
>
>  4.  I'm going to run VMware Workstation or Server - I use Dragon Naturally
>  Speaking to do speech to text conversion of meetings that I record on my 
> Olympus
>  pocket recorder.  Unless you have a better idea . . .
>
>  Thanks in advance - I'm so glad to be back.
>
>  Doug
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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Hey,
  Welcome back!

  I'm not sure when the change to dist names instead of stable etc was
made, (the old way still works btw) but I believe it is to help
prevent unexpected dist-upgrades when stable is moved on.

  Windows emulation/compatibility wise: being gone for so long you
might find that wine has caught up a little and may be able to run
some of the apps you're wanting. 'Most everything else will run in a
vm.

  I haven't tried tackling any of the other issues, I've never come up
against them and wouldn't want to lead you astray. Hopefully someone
else can help you out.

cheers,
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KDEgraphics-kfile-plugins_3.5.6-Oubuntu4_i386.deb

[henry]

Dear Sirs,

I want to install the kdegraphics-kfile-plugins_3.5.6-Oubuntu4_i386.deb
in my Ubuntu 7,10 operating system but I get a window with a problem
reported. Look the attachment.
What can I do to solve this problem?

Thanxs in advance!

Henry Hendriks NL
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Re: Additional RAM brings Lenny to a slow-down

[Jochen Schulz]

andy:
> Jochen Schulz wrote:
>>   
>>> My question is: are there any known limits on the amount of RAM Lenny 
>>>  can operate with?
>> 
>> No, but I think you have hit a problem Linux has with certain mainboards
>> that I have read about a few times already. I don't know the exact
>> solution anymore but it involves telling the kernel how much memory you
>> have. It's something like a 'mem=M' boot parameter.
>>   
> Thanks for that clue Jochen. I am running the 2.6.22-3-686 kernel. Can  
> anyone verify this and what the parameters are that need to be passed to  
> the kernel? Is this likely to require my recompiling the kernel?

I did the googling for you (linux slow boot ram upgrade kernel
parameter):

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/129172

:)

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> 
> Dear Sirs,
> 
> I want to install the kdegraphics-kfile-plugins_3.5.6-Oubuntu4_i386.deb
> in my Ubuntu 7,10 operating system but I get a window with a problem
> reported. Look the attachment.
> What can I do to solve this problem?
> 
> Thanxs in advance!

I hate to tell you this, Henry, but you're asking the wrong people.
 Ubuntu Forums is where you need to go.

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Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

[Douglas A. Tutty]

On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 05:03:37PM +1100, Rich Healey wrote:
 
> DISCLAIMER: I'm not saying mandrake (driva) is better, just that the
> installer is prettier, and lets face it, since you only run it once, why
> not make installing an eyecandy experience.
 
Because then it doesn't run well on non-eyecandy boxes.  

I like debian because of aptitude which relies on dpkg, rapid security
fixes, and the foundation of the debian policy.

On my entertainment box, I run it (with debian-multimedia) because it is
very convenient.

However, for easy install, fast operation on slow hardware, I use
OpenBSD.  

Given all the threads on this list since Etch came out where people have
chosen the default DTE install then have network problems, I personally
feel that having the DTE handle the network as a default is a bad
mistake.  Sure, I suppose that when it works it saves the user from
understanding networking.  However, when it doesn't work its a lot of
work for others to figure out.  

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Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

[Douglas A. Tutty]

On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 10:30:23PM -0800, debian azul wrote:
> Debian does not need a friendly mascot. That is ridiculous. Debian is well
> known because it is great work not because its appearance is nice or cool.
> There are many projects that have been working in beautiful distributions
> from Debian. If somebody works with Debian needs to be responsible not
> mattering if he/she is newbie or master. A lot of newbies are working with
> Debian and they love Debian.
> The Debian logo(*swirl*) is perfect for the project.

I'd be very interested in Debian, with aptitude, etc, with the OpenBSD
kernel.  To me, this would be the best of both worlds.

Next time I have a spare box, I'll work on having an OpenBSD main system
with Debian in a chroot (the same way we have amd64 systems with i386
chroots for a few things in Etch).

Doug.


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Re: Best Distro for the consumers market ??

[Douglas A. Tutty]

On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 05:21:32PM -0500, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote:
> > On 28 Feb at 14:52 Kamaraju S Kusumanchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
> > in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > 
 > 
> > Whilst I like Debian, I'm surprised that the maintainers can let this
> > situation prevail. But I guess it's a kernel bug, not specific to Debian.
> 
> Right! Upstream bugs are always painful. We should ask the upstream to fix
> it rather than making Debian the scapegoat.
 
Especially difficult would be upstream kernel bugs that would be present
in all Linux distros.  For me, this would prompt a move to OpenBSD for
that box.

Doug.


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Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

[Ron Johnson]

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> 
> DISCLAIMER: I'm not saying mandrake (driva) is better, just that the
> installer is prettier, and lets face it, since you only run it once, why
> not make installing an eyecandy experience.

Doug calls them "eye candy" machines, but the complete answer is
that Debian runs on a variety of h/w platforms, and not all of them
have the same kind of graphics h/w that x86 PCs do.  Thus, Debian
has to play to the LCD of supported h/w.

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Xorg.0.log on accessible gnome install attempt

[Jude DaShiell]

After having done a clean install of debian and gotten it up to unstable 
and having done a clean install of gnome and gnome-orca then having 
removed execute persissions from /etc/init.d/gdm script I rebooted 
computer and logged in.  I ran startx and got some interesting error 
messages.  One of them I've never run into before is screen 0 isn't dri 
capable.  The monitor on this computer only supports the three lowest 
resolutions and the rest of them won't work.

cut here:

X Window System Version 1.3.0
Release Date: 19 April 2007
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 1.3
Build Operating System: Linux Debian (xorg-server 2:1.3.0.0.dfsg-12lenny2)
Current Operating System: Linux myhome 2.6.18-4-speakup-686 #2 SMP Fri Apr 13 
23:33:08 PDT 2007 i686
Build Date: 19 January 2008
Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
to make sure that you have the latest version.
Module Loader present
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Thu Feb 28 18:16:36 2008
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
(==) ServerLayout "Default Layout"
(**) |-->Screen "Default Screen" (0)
(**) |   |-->Monitor "Generic Monitor"
(**) |   |-->Device "nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]"
(**) |-->Input Device "Generic Keyboard"
(**) |-->Input Device "Configured Mouse"
(WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic" does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/" does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/" does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi" does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi" does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(==) FontPath set to:
/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc,
/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1,
/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType
(==) RgbPath set to "/etc/X11/rgb"
(==) ModulePath set to "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
(II) Open ACPI successful (/var/run/acpid.socket)
(II) Loader magic: 0x81e5320
(II) Module ABI versions:
X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.3
X.Org Video Driver: 1.2
X.Org XInput driver : 0.7
X.Org Server Extension : 0.3
X.Org Font Renderer : 0.5
(II) Loader running on linux
(II) LoadModule: "pcidata"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libpcidata.so
(II) Module pcidata: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 1.3.0, module version = 1.0.0
ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 1.2
(--) using VT number 7

(II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex)
(II) PCI: 00:00:0: chip 8086,7190 card , rev 03 class 06,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:01:0: chip 8086,7191 card , rev 03 class 06,04,00 hdr 01
(II) PCI: 00:07:0: chip 8086,7110 card , rev 02 class 06,01,00 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:07:1: chip 8086,7111 card , rev 01 class 01,01,80 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:07:2: chip 8086,7112 card , rev 01 class 0c,03,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:07:3: chip 8086,7113 card , rev 02 class 06,80,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:0d:0: chip 9004,5078 card 9004,7850 rev 03 class 01,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:0e:0: chip 1274,5880 card 1274,2000 rev 02 class 04,01,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:0f:0: chip 10de,0322 card 196e,01ad rev a1 class 03,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:10:0: chip 1317,0985 card 1317,0574 rev 11 class 02,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:11:0: chip 9710,9835 card 1000,0001 rev 01 class 07,00,02 hdr 00
(II) PCI: End of PCI scan
(II) Host-to-PCI bridge:
(II) Bus 0: bridge is at (0:0:0), (0,0,1), BCTRL: 0x0008 (VGA_EN is set)
(II) Bus 0 I/O range:
[0] -1  0   0x - 0x (0x1) IX[B]
(II) Bus 0 non-prefetchable memory range:
[0] -1  0   0x - 0x (0x0) MX[B]
(II) Bus 0 prefetchable memory range:
[0] -1  0   0x - 0x (0x0) MX[B]
(II) PCI-to-PCI bridge:
(II) Bus 1: bridge is at (0:1:0), (0,1,1), BCTRL: 0x0084 (VGA_EN is cleared)
(II) PCI-to-ISA bridge:
(II) Bus -1: bridge is at (0:7:0), (0,-1,-1), BCTRL: 0x0008 (VGA_EN is set)
(--) PCI:*(0:15:0) nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200] rev 161, Mem @ 
0xd100/24, 0xe000/28
(II) Addressable bus resource ranges are
[0] -1  0   0x - 0x (0x0) MX[B]
[1] -1  0   0x - 0x (0x1) IX[B]
(II) OS-reported resource ranges:
[0] -1  0   0x0010 - 0x3fff (0x3ff0) MX[B]E(B)
[1] -1  0   0x000f - 0x000f (0x1) MX[B]
[2] -1  0   0x000c - 0x000e (0x3) MX[B]
[3] -1  0   0x - 0x0009 (0xa) MX[B]
[4] -1  0   0x - 0x (0x1) IX[B]
[5] -1  0   0x - 0x00ff (0x1

Re: [OT] Goodbye Debian

[Dave Thayer]

On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 07:15:14PM +0100, Dan H. wrote:

> I am on "my own" machine and I am able to write to local drives. I've
> successfully installed Opera, but I can't install Openoffice (because
> that requires root -- oops, "administrator" privileges) nor cygqin
> (because its can't go through a firewall that requires authentication).
> 

Portableapps 
has OOo which, although intended to be run from a USB stick, works
just fine when unpacked to a local directory.

HTH

dt

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Seeking Wisdom Concerning Backups

[Kent West]

I have a small server on which I need to backup the /home partition.

I have a Barracuda Terastation Pro backup server sitting right next to 
it, connected via Ethernet.


The problem is that the Terastation Pro only offers three connection 
methods: Windows Fileshare (Samba/smb/cifs), Apple Filesharing (AFS), 
and FTP).


I came into the Linux world about the time that FTP was being deprecated 
in favor of SFTP and its variants, so I have a real skittishness of 
using plain FTP. AFS is irrelevant for me. And Samba, whereas slightly 
distasteful, would be okay, except for two problems:


1. file permissions are not preserved when doing something like rsync, and
2. tarballs get truncated at an apparent 2GB limit when using tar.

I don't need anything fancy; just simple and reliable. I had put enough 
effort into learning tar and rsync to make them work (I thought! (is 
this 2GB limit when tarring over smb documented anywhere?)), but then I 
kept running into these show-stoppers as above. I've been very 
frustrated that over the past year of off-and-on "I'm going to get 
serious now and find a solution" I've been unable to find something 
simple(!!!) and reliable. (And by "simple", I mean "easy-to-comprehend 
in two-minutes", not "easy to implement after having mastered every 
command-line switch available".) So I've decided to finally give in and 
ask the big guns on this list.


Before I spend any more effort trying to setup/learn some other system 
(Bacula, Amanda, whatever), do you folks want to give me any suggestions 
as to the best way to proceed?


I want something:

* simple
* that will back up 10 - 40 GB of /home partition
* preferably making a full backup every week or so with incrementals 
every day, tossing out old fulls/incrementals as new ones are made

* that will work over SMB or FTP securely enough that I can stomach it
* that preserves directory structure/permissions
* that doesn't run into arbitrary limits like 2GB (or works around them)
* is automatic, so once set up, I don't have to think about it
* does not require X or web server installation/tweaking to configure
* does not require any sort of server piece (other than perhaps an 
/etc/init.d "service" installed as part of a quick and easy "aptitude 
install ..."

* does not require fancy back-end stuff, like MySQL

I know some of you experts see a solution immediately in using tar or 
rsync, and are thinking, "Well, if Kent had just done his research he'd 
know that if he'd XXX, then YYY...", but that's just it; I'm not a 
full-time researcher of how tar and rsync and Bacula works, and thus I'm 
throwing myself on the mercy of the community for a workable solution.


(I suspect there may be a lot of people like me who knows we need to be 
doing backups but can't find a 2nd-grade-easy system to accomplish the 
task.)


Thanks for any suggestions/help!

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wireless card fried?

[Jose Rodriguez]

Hi

Since yesterday I can't use my wireless card anymore, an
Intel 2200bg. iwconfig and dmesg report that the kill switch is
on, which is confirmed by

>cat /sys/bus/.../ipw2200/rf_kill
>2

Any attempt to change that value is fruitless. Switching on and
off the wireless switch does nothing. Only sometimes the
wireless led stays on for some 20 seconds and then dies again. The
only thing that makes me doubt about it being a hardware problem
is that, when somehow said led is on, it consistently turns itself
off as soon as I modprobe the module for the card.

Apart from a hibernate upgrade some two days ago (which I have
already downgraded just in case) I can't see anything relevant I
might've installed this recently.

I get the same with several kernels and even with a live CD.
Nothing I found in google solve/apply to my case. I don't know what
to do now to check where the problem lies...


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Re: I'm BACK!!!

[Michael Marsh]

On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 5:25 PM, Doug MacFarlane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  4.  I'm going to run VMware Workstation or Server - I use Dragon Naturally
>  Speaking to do speech to text conversion of meetings that I record on my 
> Olympus
>  pocket recorder.  Unless you have a better idea . . .

VMware should work OK.  Etch is using a 2.6.18 kernel, which shouldn't
cause you problems.  Lenny is using 2.6.22 (if you want to upgrade),
which will should also work, but you'll need a patch called something
like vmware-any-any.something -- google should tell you pretty
quickly.  BEWARE 2.6.20!  THERE BE DRAGONS!

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Re: getting gs to see ttf fonts

[H.S.]

H.S. wrote:

H.S. wrote:

H.S. wrote:

Hello

If a document containing some Indic fonts is printed, those fonts 
come out to be different on paper. English fonts are okay though. 
However, if the document is saved first as a PDF file and then that 
PDF printed, all fonts come out okay on the printout. This is on 
Openoffice.org 2.3 on Debian Testing. Where do I start looking to 
solve this one? The printer is question is Brother 2070n.


I looked in to this problem a bit more and it appears that the problem 
is while printing the document to postscript. Looks like the ttf fonts 
are not being printed in the output ps file. In place of those 
characters I am getting rectangular boxes.


So, what is going on here?

thanks,
->HS



Well, looks like the problem lies in making ghostscript see those ttf 
fonts. I was hoping that putting the fonts in /usr/share/fonts/truetype 
and running fc-cache -fv would make it happen ... well, something hasn't 
worked since the output PS file still has boxes in place of those ttf 
fonts.


So, how do I go about making ghostscript see all my installed truetype 
fonts in Debian Testing? Is the following webpage what I am supposed to 
follow or is it outdated in these days auto-configuration of fonts in 
Linux?

http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/TT-Debian-5.html

thanks.





I haven't got any reply to this problem. Either this particular thing 
"just works" for everybody and no body knows what could be wrong (so 
never looked), or the problem is not straight forward at all. So, which 
one is it?


Also, can anybody confirm the above problem does not occur for him?

thanks.




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Re: Software for collecting email addresses

[Richard Lyons]

On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 01:53:40PM +0100, Michelle Konzack wrote:

> Hi Richard,
> 
> Am 2008-02-26 19:26:36, schrieb Richard Lyons:
> > Oh Michelle, it's _you_ that sends me all those "Dear {EMAIL}, Try
> > {PRODUCT} today FREE!!!..." emails.  And I thought it was spammers who
> > were too dim to operate the mailmerge correctly.
> 
> Do you have tried it out?

Sorry, Michelle, just my silly sense of humour.  I am in no doubt of the 
ease with which they do it (I get enough of their garbage).  But it
always amuses me when the spams arrive with the placeholders intact and
no readable message at all.  A pity some spammers are less dim...

Nice day to you too -- tomorrow I suppose by now.

richard


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Re: consoliate mail archives with duplicate messages

[Rick Thomas]

On Feb 19, 2008, at 3:53 AM, Johann Spies wrote:

Over the years, every time I have reinstalled Debian, I have saved  
the

mail files.  Now I have a dozen or more files, with many duplicate
messages.

Is there an archiving utility or other reasonably simple approach
whereby I can process these mail files to (1) considate them into a
single file or archive and (2) eliminate duplicate messages?


I would unpack those files into a Maildir and if you then have
duplicate emails you can remove them with fdupes.


That will find emails that are bit-for-bit identical.

For emails that are the same except for some delivery headers, you  
may need to write a script that compares

Message-ID: headers.

Rick


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Re: Sending a bug report with reportbug fails

[Andrei Popescu]

On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 03:20:22PM +0200, Joona Kiiski wrote:
> Here is more info. ".reportbugrc" is standard generated stuff without
> any modifications.

[...]

This all looks ok. "No route to host" means AFAIK network problems, but 
your network seems to be ok. Maybe just try again?

> By the way, is there any way to test reportbug without actually
> reporting a bug. (test packet foo?)

Don't know of any.

Regards,
Andrei
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Re: No more AMD-K7 kernels?

[Andrew Sackville-West]

On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 12:44:37PM -0800, Freddy Freeloader wrote:
> Curt Howland wrote:
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>> I've looked through the debian-kernel and debian-user archives, and I  
>> don't find a discussion of this.
>>
>> Does anyone know why the -k7 precompiled kernel was dropped? Two of my  
>> machines are Athalons.
...

> I can't tell you why the move away from K7 and K8 kernels was made, only  
> that the amd64 kernel in the i386 release replaces both of them.  

Um, I think that would be -686 for 32 bit procs and -amd64 for 64bit
procs. 

A


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Re: I'm BACK!!!

[Andrei Popescu]

On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 10:25:18PM +, Doug MacFarlane wrote:
> Well, about 4 years ago I had to give up Debian for professional reasons.  
> After
> suffering through Red Hat, CentOS and Suse/SLED/SLES and the abominable 
> package
> management, I'm BACK!!!  
> 
> Boy did I miss you guys . . . 
> 
> So I ran the 4.0 r3 netinst, and just for giggles ran an apt-get update and
> apt-get upgrade.  Nothing needed, but cool.

Have a look at aptitude for package management (but do read the docs 
first).
 
> 1.  Who would like to help me with the Sound Card issue?  We can do it via 
> email
> offline from this list.  I've never been really good with loading modules and
> drivers . . . 
 
Why offline? I suggest you start a new thread with as many details about 
your hardware as you have and what alsa packages you have installed (you 
should have at least alsa-base which will also pull alsa-utils). My 
first suggestion would be to try a kernel from backports.
 
Regards,
Andrei
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Re: Seeking Wisdom Concerning Backups

[Douglas A. Tutty]

On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 05:49:47PM -0600, Kent West wrote:
> I have a small server on which I need to backup the /home partition.
> 
> I have a Barracuda Terastation Pro backup server sitting right next to 
> it, connected via Ethernet.
> 
> The problem is that the Terastation Pro only offers three connection 
> methods: Windows Fileshare (Samba/smb/cifs), Apple Filesharing (AFS), 
> and FTP).

I'd go with FTP

> 
> I came into the Linux world about the time that FTP was being deprecated 
> in favor of SFTP and its variants, so I have a real skittishness of 
> using plain FTP.

If you need security between the two boxes (or on the backup box), then
pipe the tarball through OpenSSL's enc before sending it via FTP.
 
> I want something:
> 
> * simple
> * that will back up 10 - 40 GB of /home partition
tarball, compressed, then encrypted with enc
> * preferably making a full backup every week or so with incrementals 
> every day, tossing out old fulls/incrementals as new ones are made
Write a simple script
> * that will work over SMB or FTP securely enough that I can stomach it
> * that preserves directory structure/permissions
openssl encryption
> * that doesn't run into arbitrary limits like 2GB (or works around them)
ftp
> * is automatic, so once set up, I don't have to think about it
script, put it in /etc/cron.daily
> * does not require X or web server installation/tweaking to configure
Just tweak your script.
> * does not require any sort of server piece (other than perhaps an 
> /etc/init.d "service" installed as part of a quick and easy "aptitude 
> install ..."
> * does not require fancy back-end stuff, like MySQL
> 
> I know some of you experts see a solution immediately in using tar or 
> rsync, and are thinking, "Well, if Kent had just done his research he'd 
> know that if he'd XXX, then YYY...", but that's just it; I'm not a 
> full-time researcher of how tar and rsync and Bacula works, and thus I'm 
> throwing myself on the mercy of the community for a workable solution.
> 
> (I suspect there may be a lot of people like me who knows we need to be 
> doing backups but can't find a 2nd-grade-easy system to accomplish the 
> task.)

I don't know what a Barracuda Terastation Pro backup server is, but if
it has an ftp server that will allow you to upload a compressed
encrypted tarball, then here's what I'd suggest:

Think of a tool chain.  In this case, work backwards since you are
limited to ftp.

First decide if you want to have a local tarball on the box and then
transfer the tarball, or if you want to create and transfer the tarball
in one step.  Either way, I would use a tarball.  You say you wish to
backup /home so that's easy (assuming no --excludes).  Note that if you
don't want a copy of the tarball locally, you'll need an ftp client that
can take stdin as input.  If that doesn't work, see if it can take a
named pipe (fifo); you would make a fifo in, e.g. /var/local/backup and
pipe things to that then pipe from that to the ftp client.

Then compress the tarball.  Just use gzip.  bzip2 makes slightly smaller
archives but uses a lot more CPU time and isn't available on default
installs.

Then if you want to encrypt the tarball, run it through OpenSSL's
encryption, e.g.:

openssl bf -a -e -salt -in {file} -out {file.bf}

If this is going into a pipe-line, then -in and -out would not be needed
as they default to stdin and stdout.  You'd also want to provide it with
a password source if you want it automated.

This file.tar.gz.bf (or file.tgz.bf) tarball would then get sent via ftp
to the backup server.

To make this automated, you'll need to write a simple script.

We can work on the details but let me know if my assumptions are valid
(e.g. standard ftp will work).

Doug.


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Re: replace cpu on debian etch

[Rich Healey]

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Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 02/28/08 13:51, Rick Dooling wrote:
>> I am not a hardware person. I have an old AMD Athlon XP chip 2700 that
>> just quit working (I think) on an ASUS A7V8X motherboard.
> 
>> If I replace with any socket A Athlon, say, a 2600, instead, same FSB
>> and such, will I have to reinstall Debian, or will the same Kernel and
>> install work okay with my current installation?
> 
> No.  Windows may do such shenanigans, but Linux doesn't.
> 
>> I'm running Etch with the latest Etch and with whatever k7 kernels it
>> gives me during normal updates.
> 
>> Thank you for any help.
> 
>> RD
> 
> 
> 
> 


Actually yes it will,

Similar CPU's will work, especially with the massively generic debian
kernels.

I've moved a debian install between a pentium 3 and a amd athlon. just
whack the new core in.
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Re: getting gs to see ttf fonts

[Douglas A. Tutty]

On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 07:02:23PM -0500, H.S. wrote:
 
> I haven't got any reply to this problem. Either this particular thing 
> "just works" for everybody and no body knows what could be wrong (so 
> never looked), or the problem is not straight forward at all. So, which 
> one is it?
> 
> Also, can anybody confirm the above problem does not occur for him?

Well, I never use OO.o, never use non-latin fonts, never use tt fonts.
I write with LaTex and turn the dvi into whatever I need.  I'm I'm
printing I use dvips then print to my Epson impact printer that uses
apsfilter with lpd and gs-gpl.

So for me, it would be "it just works" and since its with things I never
use, it would also be "not straight forwarward at all" and I can't
confirm the above problem does not occur to me.  Can't try it for the
above reasons.

However, I wanted you to at least get a reply to the problem so that you
know you are not being ignored.:)

Doug.


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My own emails

[Rich Healey]

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Is it possible to have the daemon that runs this list send my emails to
me as well? the solaris list does this and it makes life much easier, i
can't find anythign to make iit do this, but i';m guessing it's possible.

Cheers


Rich
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Re: I'm BACK!!!

[Kamaraju S Kusumanchi]

Doug MacFarlane wrote:

> 1.  Who would like to help me with the Sound Card issue?  We can do it via
> email
> offline from this list.  I've never been really good with loading modules
> and drivers . . .
> 

Run alsaconf to set up the driver, add yourself to the audio group, run
alsamixer to unmute the channels.

I have heard that alsaconf is deprecated. So it might be removed in the next
couple of releases. But it works in Etch.

> 2.  What to do about sync'ing with my Treo 750 (running windows mobile 6).
>  I'd like for gmail/google calendar to be my authority, and use imap on my
> laptop and desktop (evolution - any other suggestions?), but how do we
> deal with sync'ing, especially contacts, to the Treo/WinMobile?
> 

I do not know what Treo 750 is. Some one else might help you with that.

> 3.  Windows emulation.  My parents will visit in 2.5 weeks and will want
> Pretty Good Solitaire because it has a game called Thirteen Packs in it
> that is an old family favorite.

You can do

sol --version=freecell

sol is part of gnome-games package.


hth
raju
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Re: replace cpu on debian etch

[Douglas A. Tutty]

On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 12:15:40PM +1100, Rich Healey wrote:
> Ron Johnson wrote:
> > On 02/28/08 13:51, Rick Dooling wrote:
> >> I am not a hardware person. I have an old AMD Athlon XP chip 2700 that
> >> just quit working (I think) on an ASUS A7V8X motherboard.
> > 
> >> If I replace with any socket A Athlon, say, a 2600, instead, same FSB
> >> and such, will I have to reinstall Debian, or will the same Kernel and
> >> install work okay with my current installation?
> > 
> > No.  Windows may do such shenanigans, but Linux doesn't.

I think he means "No" it won't require a reinstall (in response to "will
I have to reinstall").
 
> 
> Actually yes it will,

I think you me "Yes" it will work (in response to "or will the same
Kernel and install work okay...").


Its like asking if someone would like regular or decaf (without asking
first if they would like coffee) and getting the answer "yes please".

Doug.


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Re: I'm BACK!!!

[Alan Ianson]

On Thu February 28 2008 02:25:18 pm Doug MacFarlane wrote:

> 3.  Windows emulation.  My parents will visit in 2.5 weeks and will want
> Pretty Good Solitaire because it has a game called Thirteen Packs in it
> that is an old family favorite.

Pysol might do the trick. There are quite a few solitaire games included.


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