Re: efficiency of windows managers

2007-09-28 Thread didier gaumet
On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 16:59:56 -0500, Preston Boyington wrote:

[...]
> and fyi, i use debian with fluxbox on my P133, 16mb, compaq laptop. :D

Hello Preston,

what version of debian are you talking about? On a P133, 32MB, Dell Laptop
it seemed to me that the last Debian version usable (speed...) was Potato.


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DiffIndex ignored when updating repository?

2007-09-28 Thread Nick De Graeve
I just upgraded our server to Etch but now I see there are line
starting with "Ign" when I update my repositories:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# aptitude update
Get:1 http://security.debian.org etch/updates Release.gpg [189B]
Hit http://security.debian.org etch/updates Release
Get:2 http://ftp.us.debian.org etch Release.gpg [378B]
Ign http://security.debian.org etch/updates/main Packages/DiffIndex
Ign http://security.debian.org etch/updates/contrib Packages/DiffIndex
Get:3 http://ftp.us.debian.org etch Release [58.2kB]
Hit http://security.debian.org etch/updates/main Packages
Hit http://security.debian.org etch/updates/contrib Packages
Get:4 http://ftp.us.debian.org etch/main Packages [4287kB]
Get:5 http://ftp.us.debian.org etch/contrib Packages [62.9kB]
Fetched 4408kB in 19s (227kB/s)
Reading package lists... Done

Is this something to worry about?

Thanks.

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Re: Nspluginwrapper on AMD64

2007-09-28 Thread Gabrielle Chatelet
On Friday 28 September 2007 05:16, Sridhar M.A. wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am trying to run debian-amd64 sid on my new system and so far am very
> happy with the relative ease of the installation process (thank you
> developers).
>
> I tried to install the flashplayer-mozilla|flashplayer-nonfree. Both
> failed with the same message :
>
> nspluginwrapper: no appropriate viewer found for
> /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so

Go there:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2007/08/msg01335.html


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Re: Trying to get a network printer HP LaserJet (tm) 2100tn to print from debian

2007-09-28 Thread Russell L. Harris
I haven't followed the thread, but I am using an hp2100tn with Debian
testing and CUPS.  The device URI is specified as:

ipp://192.168.0.66/ipp/

The printer has a Postscript module, so the make is specified as "raw"
and the model as "Raw Queue (en)".

The HPJetDirect interface of the printer requires a DHCP server.  For
this, I use my firewall machine, which is running SmoothWall Express
2.0.  But I prefer to use static ip addresses within the LAN, so I
specified the MAC address of the HPJetDirect interface to SmoothWall
and reserved the address 192.168.0.66 for the printer.

RLH


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Re: Lenny vs. Etch + Backports

2007-09-28 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
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Michael C wrote:
> Johannes Wiedersich wrote:
> 
>> I am not sure if I understand correctly: What are your objections
>> against debian's way of security fixes?
> 
> Let's take the example of Seamonkey/Iceape. Officially EOL'd as of May,
> the 1.0.x branch's security status is no longer being actively
> investigated by upstream developers, but assuming that Lenny takes as
> long to come to fruition as Etch, come Debian's next major release its
> developers -- with fewer resources than upstream, I should imagine --
> will have been searching out and patching vulnerabilities in an
> abandoned codebase for more than 20 months.
> 
> I've no doubt that the resulting code's more stable than upstream's,
> it's just that I'd rather place my trust in the upstream codebase (or
> Debian patches based thereon).
> 
> Not a very original objection, but a reasonable-sounding pretext for
> moving away from Stable ;)

[I'm not a security expert and I don't follow this in every detail, so
take my statements carefully and with a grain of salt. ]

I personally view it this way:
- - upstream replace each mozilla-* version with a new version. This means
that at the same time a security issue is fixed, a new one may arise due
to new features etc.
- - for each security issue discovered, debian carefully checks whether it
affects the version in stable. If so, the issue gets fixed and it is
rather unlikely that 'new' security holes are introduced this way.

I can't ultimately tell by hard facts, which approach is more secure,
but my experience with debian's approach has been good.

You could also run stable etch and install firefox et al. from mozilla's
website... I think that even includes an automatic update feature. (Have
never tried this myself, though.)

YMMV, HTH, best wishes!

Johannes
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Re: Slow Network Connection

2007-09-28 Thread Bonnel Christophe

I can suggest you, if you have 2 PC and you use IPv4, to try netio
http://freshmeat.net/projects/netio/

You need to compile this old program. But i used to test connection 
speed between my machines and it worked pretty good.


Hope this helps

Christophe


Eric Estes a écrit :

I just purchased a Shuttle XPC SN27P2 barebones system.
Chipset: North Bridge - Nvidia nForce 570 Ultra
Onboard NIC: Marvell 88E1116(10/100/1000Mbps) - I also added a Intel
Dual-Server NIC and disabled the Marvell

I tried installing Debian 4.0r0, 4.0r1 and a nightly test build and they
all suffer from the same problem; an extremely slow connection to the
internet (about dial-up speed - I have a 5Meg cable connection).

Yet, if I boot off of a PCLinuxOS Live CD the network works perfectly.

I've changed cables and network cards with no luck. I'm hoping someone
here will see something that I've overlooked.

Thank you.



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Re: news for debian

2007-09-28 Thread Jerome BENOIT

Hello,

debian news are rare event.

Jerome

roberto wrote:

hello
is the mailing list of debian-news still active ?

thank you ...


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Re: Sound stopped working in Sid

2007-09-28 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 28 Sep 2007, Chris Lale wrote:
> 
> Meanwhile, you could try my workaround [1] for Etch:
> 
> "The problem in alsaconf is the result of the presence of the file
> /etc/modprobe.conf. This causes /etc/modprobe.d/ to be ignored by Debian
> packages (including alsaconf) which store their configuration files in
> /etc/modprobe.d/. The permanent solution is to move /etc/modprobe.conf out of
> the way. Do not delete it just in case there are modules listed in it by other
> applications that you may need to know about if those applications start
> misbehaving. Rename the file instead:
> 
>  # mv /etc/modprobe.conf /etc/modprobe.conf.obsolete
> 
> Now run alsaconf again and everything should work."
> 

I don't have this file at all but still the problem occurs.


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Re: can pbzip2 run on stdout?

2007-09-28 Thread Stefhen Hovland
Ahh crap, I looked thru that page, but didnt notice that. My fault :D

On 9/27/07, Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 27, 2007 at 02:57:40PM -0400, Stefhen Hovland wrote:
> > Is this possible for pbzip2  to run on a tar which outputs to standard out?
> >
> > I am trying to speed up a backup process which takes hours, i have
> > about 100g of uncompressed data which will be tar'd up and is
> > currently running thru gzip. This will be running on a 16 cpu box
> > which would greatly speedup this issue.
> >
> > from:
> >
> > tar cf - . | gzip > /tmp/file.tar.gz
> >
> > to:
> >
> > tar cf - . | pbzip2 > /tmp/file.tar.bz2
> >
> >
> > This doesnt seem to work, is it because there is no way to split the
> > stdio to multiple processors on the fly?
>
> per
>
> http://compression.ca/pbzip2/
>
> ToDo
>
> - Add support for input from stdin & pipes
>
> google man!
>
> A
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Re: hp psc driver question

2007-09-28 Thread steef

Andrew Sackville-West wrote:

On Thu, Sep 27, 2007 at 11:53:44AM +0200, steef wrote:
  

hi,

cups gives a driver for the hp-printer psc (all in one) 2500. does anybody 
know if this driver works also for the hp psc 2575?



according to:

http://hplip.sourceforge.net/supported_devices/inkjet_aio.html

its not (not listed) but since all the listed PSC's are supported as
of version .9.5 and sid's got 1.6.blah I think you're good to go. 


Note that google provides several hits that claim this printer works
as well. 


A
  


...thanks [again] andrew. yes, i saw the annotations via google, and, 
under suse 10 (i use debian!) the machine seems to be supported by the 
same hplip version as under etch (which i am using as production 
machine). so: taken together with your advice i am convinced and will 
buy the hp psc2575 within the hour (it's morning here)..



kind regards,

steef


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Re: Nspluginwrapper on AMD64

2007-09-28 Thread Sridhar M.A.
On Fri, Sep 28, 2007 at 08:57:25AM +0200, Gabrielle Chatelet wrote:
   > >
   > > I tried to install the flashplayer-mozilla|flashplayer-nonfree. Both
   > > failed with the same message :
   > >
   > > nspluginwrapper: no appropriate viewer found for
   > > /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so
   > 
   > Go there:
   > http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2007/08/msg01335.html
   > 
Thanks for the link. But, the message details the process to get it
working under etch. I am running sid.

Regards,

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/proc/net info ?

2007-09-28 Thread chloe K
Hi all
 
 How can I find out all info about /proc/net ?
 
 eg: rt_cache and softnet_stat are for what purpose
 
 Thank you
   
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DSL setup under Debian/GNU Linux with GNOME

2007-09-28 Thread Khurram Pirzada
Hello List,

I have PIII, 800Mhz, 512MB RAM, with RTL-8139 lan-card and a ZXDSL-831D DSL 
modem
with 256 kbps broadband connection. I was given IP address, default gateway
address but NO DNS address, with a user name and password to connect to this 
DSL. 
Its PPPoE setup. I could easily manage that under XP.

I just 2 days ago installed Debian with GNOME, and not KDE. I tried to see if
there was a way to setup/configure DSL, but could not. 

Could any one be kind enough to help/advice as what can I do.
 

Best,
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Re: /proc/net info ?

2007-09-28 Thread Wayne Topa
chloe K([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
> Hi all
>  
>  How can I find out all info about /proc/net ?
>  
>  eg: rt_cache and softnet_stat are for what purpose
>  
>  Thank you
>
> -
> Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving 
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Gee, if I didn't know how to find the info using man or info,
I guess I would use 

google /proc/net/rt_cache softnet_stat

which would answer my question amd teach me how to use man and or
info.

But thats just me.

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Re: efficiency of windows managers

2007-09-28 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Sep 27, 2007 at 08:19:28PM -0700, Amit Uttamchandani wrote:
> > 
> > thanks. I've become sort of a wmii zealot in the last little
> > while. It's been fun. hope I didn't steal your thunder. :)
> 
> Lol no not at all. You should give DWM a try. I think there are improvements 
> over wmii. Also, there is a new fork from dwm called 'awesome' (yeah i know, 
> apparently the name lives up to the hype). Haven't tried it but I will def 
> check it out.
> 
> http://awesome.naquadah.org/

cool thanks

A


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Re: Sound stopped working in Sid

2007-09-28 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 28 Sep 2007, Chris Lale wrote:
> Anthony Campbell wrote:
> > On 28 Sep 2007, Chris Lale wrote:
> >> Meanwhile, you could try my workaround [1] for Etch:
> >>
> >> "The problem in alsaconf is the result of the presence of the file
> >> /etc/modprobe.conf. This causes /etc/modprobe.d/ to be ignored by Debian
> >> packages (including alsaconf) which store their configuration files in
> >> /etc/modprobe.d/. The permanent solution is to move /etc/modprobe.conf out 
> >> of
> >> the way. Do not delete it just in case there are modules listed in it by 
> >> other
> >> applications that you may need to know about if those applications start
> >> misbehaving. Rename the file instead:
> >>
> >>  # mv /etc/modprobe.conf /etc/modprobe.conf.obsolete
> >>
> >> Now run alsaconf again and everything should work."
> >>
> > 
> > I don't have this file at all but still the problem occurs.
> > 
> > 
> 
> You could check that /etc/modprobe.d exists.
> 
> Have you tried running udevtrigger as user root? This is from bug no 430624 
> [1]:
> 
> # udevtrigger --verbose
> 
> "This should reload the modules you need. On next reboot, your system will 
> find
> your soundcard. The module management is done by udev. You should not need to
> use alsaconf any more."
> 
> [1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=430624
> 
> -- 
> Chris.
> 

I do have /etc/modprobe-d though I'm not sure what it does. I tried
udevtrigger but it didn't reload the module after alsaconf; I did it
with insmod, I think. Anyway, it's all fairly academic since now that I
have the entry in /etc/modules it loads automatically at each reboot.

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Re: Slow Network Connection

2007-09-28 Thread Bonnel Christophe
Have you tried to boot with the noapic option with all of your OS to see 
differences ?


Eric Estes a écrit :

Something I found interesting...PCLinuxOS out of the ones listed below is the 
only one that worked for me (normal network speeds).

I noticed it's the only one that has IO-APIC-level rather than IO-APIC-fasteoi. 
Could that be my problem and if so how do I fix that?

 


PCLinuxOS:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# cat /proc/interrupts
CPU0 CPU1
0: 39309 2494 IO-APIC-edge timer
6: 1 1 IO-APIC-edge floppy
8: 3 2 IO-APIC-edge rtc
9: 0 0 IO-APIC-level acpi
14: 4486 1 IO-APIC-edge ide0
16: 1146 1 IO-APIC-level libata, HDA Intel
17: 555 1 IO-APIC-level libata
18: 682 1 IO-APIC-level ohci_hcd:usb1
19: 2 1 IO-APIC-level ehci_hcd:usb2
20: 2 1 IO-APIC-level ohci1394
21: 29 1 IO-APIC-level eth0
22: 61 1 IO-APIC-level eth1
NMI: 0 0
LOC: 41779 41767
ERR: 1
MIS: 0
[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]#

Debian:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /proc/interrupts
CPU0 CPU1
0: 84 1 IO-APIC-edge timer
1: 0 2 IO-APIC-edge i8042
6: 0 2 IO-APIC-edge floppy
8: 0 0 IO-APIC-edge rtc
9: 0 0 IO-APIC-fasteoi acpi
12: 0 4 IO-APIC-edge i8042
14: 0 764 IO-APIC-edge ide0
16: 0 257 IO-APIC-fasteoi ehci_hcd:usb1, HDA Intel
17: 2 1401 IO-APIC-fasteoi ohci_hcd:usb2
18: 0 36 IO-APIC-fasteoi eth1
19: 0 63 IO-APIC-fasteoi eth2
20: 0 2 IO-APIC-fasteoi ohci1394
21: 0 0 IO-APIC-fasteoi libata
22: 2 5733 IO-APIC-fasteoi libata
NMI: 0 0
LOC: 5171 8933
ERR: 1
MIS: 0
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$

Knoppix:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /proc/interrupts
CPU0 CPU1
0: 92 109261 IO-APIC-edge timer
1: 0 2 IO-APIC-edge i8042
6: 0 2 IO-APIC-edge floppy
8: 0 1 IO-APIC-edge rtc
9: 0 0 IO-APIC-fasteoi acpi
12: 0 4 IO-APIC-edge i8042
14: 1 2175 IO-APIC-edge ide0
16: 0 237 IO-APIC-fasteoi libata, HDA Intel
17: 1 242 IO-APIC-fasteoi libata
18: 0 3 IO-APIC-fasteoi ehci_hcd:usb1
19: 1 3640 IO-APIC-fasteoi ohci_hcd:usb2
20: 0 3 IO-APIC-fasteoi ohci1394
21: 15 8061 IO-APIC-fasteoi eth1
NMI: 0 0
LOC: 109311 109296
ERR: 1
MIS: 0
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$

SabayonLinux:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ cat /proc/interrupts
CPU0 CPU1
0: 250 0 IO-APIC-edge timer
1: 3 3 IO-APIC-edge i8042
6: 0 2 IO-APIC-edge floppy
8: 48 2 IO-APIC-edge rtc
9: 0 0 IO-APIC-fasteoi acpi
12: 0 4 IO-APIC-edge i8042
14: 6853 6 IO-APIC-edge libata
15: 0 0 IO-APIC-edge libata
16: 9568 4 IO-APIC-fasteoi ohci1394, nvidia
17: 1693 1 IO-APIC-fasteoi sata_nv, ohci_hcd:usb2
18: 164 5 IO-APIC-fasteoi sata_nv
19: 2 1 IO-APIC-fasteoi ehci_hcd:usb1
20: 6067 1 IO-APIC-fasteoi HDA Intel
21: 133 1 IO-APIC-fasteoi eth0
22: 77 1 IO-APIC-fasteoi eth1
NMI: 0 0
LOC: 292338 292302
ERR: 1
MIS: 0
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $

Kubuntu 7.01:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /proc/interrupts
CPU0 CPU1
0: 53890 2253 IO-APIC-edge timer
1: 0 2 IO-APIC-edge i8042
6: 1 1 IO-APIC-edge floppy
8: 28 2 IO-APIC-edge rtc
9: 0 0 IO-APIC-fasteoi acpi
12: 2 2 IO-APIC-edge i8042
14: 6506 1 IO-APIC-edge ide0
16: 5839 1 IO-APIC-fasteoi ohci_hcd:usb1, HDA Intel
17: 2 1 IO-APIC-fasteoi ehci_hcd:usb2
18: 1 1 IO-APIC-fasteoi ohci1394
19: 331 1 IO-APIC-fasteoi eth0
20: 87 1 IO-APIC-fasteoi eth1
21: 0 0 IO-APIC-fasteoi libata
22: 302 1 IO-APIC-fasteoi libata
NMI: 0 0
LOC: 56035 56045
ERR: 1
MIS: 0
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$





-Original Message-
From: Bonnel Christophe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 5:37 AM

To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Slow Network Connection

I can suggest you, if you have 2 PC and you use IPv4, to try netio
http://freshmeat.net/projects/netio/

You need to compile this old program. But i used to test connection 
speed between my machines and it worked pretty good.


Hope this helps

Christophe


Eric Estes a écrit :
  

I just purchased a Shuttle XPC SN27P2 barebones system.
Chipset: North Bridge - Nvidia nForce 570 Ultra
Onboard NIC: Marvell 88E1116(10/100/1000Mbps) - I also added a Intel
Dual-Server NIC and disabled the Marvell

I tried installing Debian 4.0r0, 4.0r1 and a nightly test build and they
all suffer from the same problem; an extremely slow connection to the
internet (about dial-up speed - I have a 5Meg cable connection).

Yet, if I boot off of a PCLinuxOS Live CD the network works perfectly.

I've changed cables and network cards with no luck. I'm hoping someone
here will see something that I've overlooked.

Thank you.




  



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Re: Sound stopped working in Sid

2007-09-28 Thread Chris Lale
Anthony Campbell wrote:
> On 28 Sep 2007, Chris Lale wrote:
>> Meanwhile, you could try my workaround [1] for Etch:
>>
>> "The problem in alsaconf is the result of the presence of the file
>> /etc/modprobe.conf. This causes /etc/modprobe.d/ to be ignored by Debian
>> packages (including alsaconf) which store their configuration files in
>> /etc/modprobe.d/. The permanent solution is to move /etc/modprobe.conf out of
>> the way. Do not delete it just in case there are modules listed in it by 
>> other
>> applications that you may need to know about if those applications start
>> misbehaving. Rename the file instead:
>>
>>  # mv /etc/modprobe.conf /etc/modprobe.conf.obsolete
>>
>> Now run alsaconf again and everything should work."
>>
> 
> I don't have this file at all but still the problem occurs.
> 
> 

You could check that /etc/modprobe.d exists.

Have you tried running udevtrigger as user root? This is from bug no 430624 [1]:

# udevtrigger --verbose

"This should reload the modules you need. On next reboot, your system will find
your soundcard. The module management is done by udev. You should not need to
use alsaconf any more."

[1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=430624

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Re: news for debian

2007-09-28 Thread KS
Jerome BENOIT wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> debian news are rare event.
> 
> Jerome
> 

DWN used to be regular but the last one was 3 July'07 :(
http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/

> roberto wrote:
>> hello
>> is the mailing list of debian-news still active ?
>>
>> thank you ...
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RE: Slow Network Connection

2007-09-28 Thread Eric Estes
Something I found interesting...PCLinuxOS out of the ones listed below is the 
only one that worked for me (normal network speeds).

I noticed it's the only one that has IO-APIC-level rather than IO-APIC-fasteoi. 
Could that be my problem and if so how do I fix that?

 

PCLinuxOS:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# cat /proc/interrupts
CPU0 CPU1
0: 39309 2494 IO-APIC-edge timer
6: 1 1 IO-APIC-edge floppy
8: 3 2 IO-APIC-edge rtc
9: 0 0 IO-APIC-level acpi
14: 4486 1 IO-APIC-edge ide0
16: 1146 1 IO-APIC-level libata, HDA Intel
17: 555 1 IO-APIC-level libata
18: 682 1 IO-APIC-level ohci_hcd:usb1
19: 2 1 IO-APIC-level ehci_hcd:usb2
20: 2 1 IO-APIC-level ohci1394
21: 29 1 IO-APIC-level eth0
22: 61 1 IO-APIC-level eth1
NMI: 0 0
LOC: 41779 41767
ERR: 1
MIS: 0
[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]#

Debian:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /proc/interrupts
CPU0 CPU1
0: 84 1 IO-APIC-edge timer
1: 0 2 IO-APIC-edge i8042
6: 0 2 IO-APIC-edge floppy
8: 0 0 IO-APIC-edge rtc
9: 0 0 IO-APIC-fasteoi acpi
12: 0 4 IO-APIC-edge i8042
14: 0 764 IO-APIC-edge ide0
16: 0 257 IO-APIC-fasteoi ehci_hcd:usb1, HDA Intel
17: 2 1401 IO-APIC-fasteoi ohci_hcd:usb2
18: 0 36 IO-APIC-fasteoi eth1
19: 0 63 IO-APIC-fasteoi eth2
20: 0 2 IO-APIC-fasteoi ohci1394
21: 0 0 IO-APIC-fasteoi libata
22: 2 5733 IO-APIC-fasteoi libata
NMI: 0 0
LOC: 5171 8933
ERR: 1
MIS: 0
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$

Knoppix:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /proc/interrupts
CPU0 CPU1
0: 92 109261 IO-APIC-edge timer
1: 0 2 IO-APIC-edge i8042
6: 0 2 IO-APIC-edge floppy
8: 0 1 IO-APIC-edge rtc
9: 0 0 IO-APIC-fasteoi acpi
12: 0 4 IO-APIC-edge i8042
14: 1 2175 IO-APIC-edge ide0
16: 0 237 IO-APIC-fasteoi libata, HDA Intel
17: 1 242 IO-APIC-fasteoi libata
18: 0 3 IO-APIC-fasteoi ehci_hcd:usb1
19: 1 3640 IO-APIC-fasteoi ohci_hcd:usb2
20: 0 3 IO-APIC-fasteoi ohci1394
21: 15 8061 IO-APIC-fasteoi eth1
NMI: 0 0
LOC: 109311 109296
ERR: 1
MIS: 0
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$

SabayonLinux:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ cat /proc/interrupts
CPU0 CPU1
0: 250 0 IO-APIC-edge timer
1: 3 3 IO-APIC-edge i8042
6: 0 2 IO-APIC-edge floppy
8: 48 2 IO-APIC-edge rtc
9: 0 0 IO-APIC-fasteoi acpi
12: 0 4 IO-APIC-edge i8042
14: 6853 6 IO-APIC-edge libata
15: 0 0 IO-APIC-edge libata
16: 9568 4 IO-APIC-fasteoi ohci1394, nvidia
17: 1693 1 IO-APIC-fasteoi sata_nv, ohci_hcd:usb2
18: 164 5 IO-APIC-fasteoi sata_nv
19: 2 1 IO-APIC-fasteoi ehci_hcd:usb1
20: 6067 1 IO-APIC-fasteoi HDA Intel
21: 133 1 IO-APIC-fasteoi eth0
22: 77 1 IO-APIC-fasteoi eth1
NMI: 0 0
LOC: 292338 292302
ERR: 1
MIS: 0
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $

Kubuntu 7.01:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /proc/interrupts
CPU0 CPU1
0: 53890 2253 IO-APIC-edge timer
1: 0 2 IO-APIC-edge i8042
6: 1 1 IO-APIC-edge floppy
8: 28 2 IO-APIC-edge rtc
9: 0 0 IO-APIC-fasteoi acpi
12: 2 2 IO-APIC-edge i8042
14: 6506 1 IO-APIC-edge ide0
16: 5839 1 IO-APIC-fasteoi ohci_hcd:usb1, HDA Intel
17: 2 1 IO-APIC-fasteoi ehci_hcd:usb2
18: 1 1 IO-APIC-fasteoi ohci1394
19: 331 1 IO-APIC-fasteoi eth0
20: 87 1 IO-APIC-fasteoi eth1
21: 0 0 IO-APIC-fasteoi libata
22: 302 1 IO-APIC-fasteoi libata
NMI: 0 0
LOC: 56035 56045
ERR: 1
MIS: 0
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$





-Original Message-
From: Bonnel Christophe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 5:37 AM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Slow Network Connection

I can suggest you, if you have 2 PC and you use IPv4, to try netio
http://freshmeat.net/projects/netio/

You need to compile this old program. But i used to test connection 
speed between my machines and it worked pretty good.

Hope this helps

Christophe


Eric Estes a écrit :
> I just purchased a Shuttle XPC SN27P2 barebones system.
> Chipset: North Bridge - Nvidia nForce 570 Ultra
> Onboard NIC: Marvell 88E1116(10/100/1000Mbps) - I also added a Intel
> Dual-Server NIC and disabled the Marvell
>
> I tried installing Debian 4.0r0, 4.0r1 and a nightly test build and they
> all suffer from the same problem; an extremely slow connection to the
> internet (about dial-up speed - I have a 5Meg cable connection).
>
> Yet, if I boot off of a PCLinuxOS Live CD the network works perfectly.
>
> I've changed cables and network cards with no luck. I'm hoping someone
> here will see something that I've overlooked.
>
> Thank you.


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how to find modifier key in KDE

2007-09-28 Thread H.S.

Hello,

Just a little questions: How do I find out which one is the modifier key
on a particular keyboard layout (layout in, variant guru) in KDE?

I am running updated Testing and am using the Keyboard layout switcher
in KDE to switch between the layouts.

thanks,
->HS


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Decompiling locale definition files

2007-09-28 Thread Mike Polyakov
Hi,

I would like to decompile several locale files located in
/usr/lib/locale, such as LC_COLLATE, and view their contents in human
readable form. Is there a program which can do that - i.e., that will
reverse what localedef does?

Thanks.


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Re: Debian may lose a user

2007-09-28 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

"Mike McCarty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> I have some feedback about my GF who uses Debian at my suggestion.
> I have no irons in the fire on this one, as I don't use Debian,
> though I do administer her machine for her. So, please don't take
> this as a complaint from me, as it isn't. I'm simply informing
> the Debian forum of a situation.
>
> She's had four problems with using Debian on her machine,
> and support response from this forum has been somewhat less
> than she had hoped for.



May be she (what' s a GF?) hoped for too much.
I find that if the forum does not respond it is most often because you don'
t ask the question right.
Or
The question should be directed to a more specific forum.
Or
What you are asking is not a problem. It' s only a problem in your head.

Hugo




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Re: How do you unmount all your drives

2007-09-28 Thread Gabrielle Chatelet
On Friday 28 September 2007 14:00, Sid Arth wrote:
> Hi, is there a command I can use that unmounts all unnecessary drives?
> And what command can I use to just unmount one drive?

man umount


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How do you unmount all your drives

2007-09-28 Thread Sid Arth
Hi, is there a command I can use that unmounts all unnecessary drives?
And what command can I use to just unmount one drive?


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Re: Basic Tomcatt5.5 Admin question

2007-09-28 Thread Nyizsnyik Ferenc
On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 18:39:21 -
Dancing Fingers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sep 21, 2:00 pm, Dancing Fingers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Thanks.  This helps a lot.   I   also tried
> > chown -R www-data  /usr/share/tomcat5.5-webapps
> > without much luck.
> >
> > Cchris
> > On Sep 21, 1:10 pm, Nyizsnyik Ferenc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 07:42:59 -0700
> >
> > > Dancing Fingers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Hi guys,
> > > > I  finally got Tomcat5.5 going on Etch  AMD and  I start
> > > > studying the JSP developers guide but I get stuck in  the
> > > > beginning.   The book says to create a  new directory under
> > > > ROOT but  I  don't have permission in my default account.  The
> > > > last  install I  did a chgrp /
> > > > user/share/tomcat5.5-webapps/ROOT www-data but I screwed  the
> > > > package up so  bad that I re-installed the system.   Could
> > > > anyone tell me how the is typically  done? Thanks.
> > > > Chris
> >
> > > I use the "user web applications", I think it is a better
> > > approach for learning stuff. I put the following
> > > in /etc/tomcat5.5/server.xml, in the  section:
> >
> > >  > > directoryName="public_html"
> > > userClass="org.apache.catalina.startup.PasswdUserDatabase"/>
> >
> > >  > > docBase="/home/nyizsa/public_html/jsp" debug="0"> 
> >
> > > My pages can be reached ashttp://localhost:8180/~nyizsa/jsp/, and
> > > they are actually located in /home/nyizsa/public_html/jsp.
> >
> > > You may find more useful information
> > > athttp://localhost:8180/tomcat-docs/
> >
> > > --
> > > Szia:
> > > Nyizsa.
> >
> > > --
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> I tried
> 
> 
>unpackWARs="true" autoDeploy="true"
>   xmlValidation="false"
> xmlNamespaceAware="false">
> 
>  className="org.apache.catalina.startup.UserConfig"
> directoryName="public_html"
> userClass="org.apache.catalina.startup.PasswdUserDatabase"/>  path="/batymahn/chapter1"
^
Here a ~ seems to be missing.

Also, did you create the chapter1 directory in your public_html?

> docBase="/home/batymahn/public_html/chapter1" debug="0">  Context>
> 
> 
> Without luck.  i also tried
> 
>unpackWARs="true" autoDeploy="true"
>   xmlValidation="false"
> xmlNamespaceAware="false">  docBase="file:/var/www/mi-garage" debug="0" reloadable="true"/>-->
> 
> 

Re: OT: Choice of OOo and LaTeX

2007-09-28 Thread Stefan Monnier
> I write all my texts in latex, use JabRef/bibtex to manage references,
> subversion to keep track of things and to collaborate with coauthors,
> and -- if I need to submit to a journal misguided enough only to accept
> word, latex2rtf.

My wife works in a field where most journals want Word files.  So I thought
I'd try and sell her on LaTeX + some conversion (latex2rtf for example), but
it turns out it's no good for her: even though she's the sole author, she
always sends her articles for feedback/corrections to friends who also want
Word format and then do their modification in-place and send back a Word
file (with changes marked as such), so she could start with a LaTeX file ,
but as soon as the text is ready enough to send to friends, she needs to
convert to Word and then needs to keep working in OOs to integrate the
comments/fixes etc... so she may as well use OOo all the way.


Stefan


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setkeycode problem at boot

2007-09-28 Thread Stephane Durieux
Hello

I encounter a problem with the installation of the
current version of etch on an dell optiplex 745.
At boot I obtain a message with setkeycode (the map
between scancode and keycode is not set for some code)

I have tried at getkeycodes which has returned : 
 getkeycodes
Plain scancodes xx (hex) versus keycodes (dec)
0 is an error; for 1-88 (0x01-0x58) scancode equals
keycode

KDGETKEYCODE: Aucun périphérique de ce type
failed to get keycode for scancode 0x5a
 0x58:   88  89

If someone can help me. I have tried to reconfigure
xserver and console-data (don t know if the last one
is usefull)
I am a little bit lost between keymap and
keycodes/scancodes if someone can help me 

Thanks   


  
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Re: Debian may lose a user

2007-09-28 Thread Kent West

Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

... (what' s a GF?) ...



Girl-Friend. (I used to understand the concept of girlfriends better 
before Debian came along )


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news for debian

2007-09-28 Thread roberto
hello
is the mailing list of debian-news still active ?

thank you ...
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Re: GNOME: Associate multiple queues with one printer: HOW?

2007-09-28 Thread Wackojacko

Mike McCarty wrote:


Anyway, unless I want to make a hobby of making that machine
able to boot Debian, and fiddling with it just to see if it
could have been made to work, I'm afraid Debian is pretty
much gone on this machine. Even if I make the machine dual
boot, I wonder just how often it actually would get booted
to Debian. Her plan is to use Knoppix to move her mail files
etc. from the Debian partition to an external FAT drive,
and then reboot Windows and import.


If the debian install used ext2/3 then there is a driver for windows XP 
(http://www.fs-driver.org/) which will allow direct access to the 
partitions without the need to boot a live CD.


HTH

Wackojacko


Mike



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Re: iscan frustration Compounded!

2007-09-28 Thread Chris Davies
Thomas H. George <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I own two Epson scanners, a Perfection 2400 Photo and a Perfection V100
> Photo.

> Neither work with Debian Linux.

Check the location of the firmware file, esfw41.bin. A few upgrades ago,
my system also lost the configuration entry in /etc/sane.d/snapscan.conf
that defined this.

Chris


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Re: efficiency of windows managers

2007-09-28 Thread Preston Boyington
didier gaumet wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 16:59:56 -0500, Preston Boyington wrote:
> 
> [...]
>> and fyi, i use debian with fluxbox on my P133, 16mb, compaq laptop. :D
> 
> Hello Preston,
> 
> what version of debian are you talking about? On a P133, 32MB, Dell Laptop
> it seemed to me that the last Debian version usable (speed...) was Potato.
> 

actually i am using Woody on that particular machine with a 2.4 kernel.
 at the moment i forget "why" i went with Woody... maybe at the time it
was "testing"?

probably in the near future i will go a "debian from scratch" route and
see how well i can get the little thing working.  i no longer use it for
my day-to-day and now it sees most of its time wirelessly streaming
music from my server.


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Re: Nspluginwrapper on AMD64

2007-09-28 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Fri, Sep 28, 2007 at 08:46:56 +0530, Sridhar M.A. wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I am trying to run debian-amd64 sid on my new system and so far am very
> happy with the relative ease of the installation process (thank you
> developers).
> 
> I tried to install the flashplayer-mozilla|flashplayer-nonfree. Both
> failed with the same message :
> 
> nspluginwrapper: no appropriate viewer found for 
> /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so
> 
> I found the bug reported on bugs.debian.org and the comment of the
> maintainer that this is probably due to a bug in chroot
> package/environment.

The two related bugs in the BTS seem to be about "experimental" versions
of flashplugin-nonfree. Which version are you trying to install? Version
9.0.48.0.2 works fine on my Sid/amd64 system, without any need for a
32bit chroot.

> AFAICT, I do not have any chroot installs other
> than that demanded by nspluginwrapper.

This statement is a bit confusing. Did you install flashplayer in a
32bit chroot or not? 

I think we might have a misunderstanding here: The nspluginwrapper
package provides a means to run i386 plugins on other architectures
without having to install a 32bit chroot on your system. If you use a
32bit chroot to run i386 binaries then you have to set up the chroot
yourself first and then you can install the i386 debs in it. This used
to be necessary for the flash-plugin on amd64, but now it is not
required anymore.

> than that demanded by nspluginwrapper. The contents of the files in
> /etc/ld.so.conf.d are :
> 
> libc.conf :
>   # libc default configuration
>   /usr/local/lib
> 
> x86_64-linux-gnu.conf :  
>   # Multiarch support
>   /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu
>   /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu

I see the same on my system, so I think this should be OK. 
 
> Rerunning ldconfig, did not solve the problem. But, what surprises me is
> this fact: nspluginwrapper depends on linux32, but it is not installed.
> Trying to install linux32, apt wants to remove util-linux. I am pasting
> the session below :

[...]

> The system appears not to honor the dependency requirement of
> nspluginwrapper. Has anyone else noticed this problem? Is this a bug in
> apt|aptitude or nspluginwrapper?

No, the dependency is satisfied because util-linux provides linux32:

$ apt-cache show util-linux | grep Provides
Provides: schedutils, linux32

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Re: Sound stopped working in Sid

2007-09-28 Thread Chris Lale
Anthony Campbell wrote:
> On 27 Sep 2007, Chris Lale wrote:
>> Anthony Campbell wrote (on the Debian-User list)
>> http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2007/09/msg02165.html :
>>
>>> On 24 Sep 2007, Chris Lale wrote:
 Florian Kulzer wrote:

 This is probably because alsaconf is broken [1]. What version are you 
 using? It
 is slated to be fixed in version 1.0.14-2 [2].

 [1]
 http://newbiedoc.berlios.de/wiki/Sound_in_Debian_GNU/Linux#Some_applications_.28OSS_applications.29_produce_no_sound_in_ALSA[2]
 http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2007/09/msg01370.html

>>> That is the version of alsa-utils I have but it doesn't fix things for
>>> me. However, Florian's solution does.
>>>
>> So, apparently, alsaconf version 1.0.14-2 has not fixed these bugs (#430624,
>> #432678)?
>>
>> -- 
>> Chris.
>>
> 
> No it hasn't. I just ran it again and it removed snd_pcm_oss.
> 

Thanks. I added a message to the bug report (432678), so, hopefully, the
maintainer will now be aware of this.

Meanwhile, you could try my workaround [1] for Etch:

"The problem in alsaconf is the result of the presence of the file
/etc/modprobe.conf. This causes /etc/modprobe.d/ to be ignored by Debian
packages (including alsaconf) which store their configuration files in
/etc/modprobe.d/. The permanent solution is to move /etc/modprobe.conf out of
the way. Do not delete it just in case there are modules listed in it by other
applications that you may need to know about if those applications start
misbehaving. Rename the file instead:

 # mv /etc/modprobe.conf /etc/modprobe.conf.obsolete

Now run alsaconf again and everything should work."

[1]
http://newbiedoc.berlios.de/wiki/Sound_in_Debian_GNU/Linux#Some_applications_.28OSS_applications.29_produce_no_sound_in_ALSA

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Re: Openoffice file takes a long time to open

2007-09-28 Thread Wei Wang
Hi there
Try to modified it and save it on SUSE machine. Then copy the file back
to etch laptop.

On Wed, 2007-09-26 at 11:15 +0100, John O Laoi wrote:
> Hello,
> I am running Etch on a Dell Precision laptop.
>  I have one openoffice file, say XYZ.odt, which takes a long time to
> open (maybe 25 minutes).
> While it is opening, Openoffice is stalled. 
> It is not big. ls-l  reports its size as 18,000.
> I have many much bigger files which open immediately.
> 
> I copied the file to SUSE linux that I have on a desktop, and the file
> opened quickly. 
> I tried changing its name.
> I tried copying its contents to a new file.
> I made a copy of the file (using cp).
> I had some URLs in the file, which I changed to text (removed the blue
> and underline) 
> I ran fsck on the filesystem on which it resides, and it reported no
> bad blocks.
> 
> Any ideas where I look?
> 
> John


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RE: Slow Network Connection

2007-09-28 Thread Eric Estes
I tried the noapic option when installing Debian but I'll try the others when I 
get home and will post back.

On a side, is there a way to switch Debian to use the IO-APIC-level option over 
the IO-APIC-fasteoi?

-Original Message-
From: Bonnel Christophe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 10:38 AM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Slow Network Connection

Have you tried to boot with the noapic option with all of your OS to see 
differences ?

Eric Estes a écrit :
> Something I found interesting...PCLinuxOS out of the ones listed below is the 
> only one that worked for me (normal network speeds).
>
> I noticed it's the only one that has IO-APIC-level rather than 
> IO-APIC-fasteoi. Could that be my problem and if so how do I fix that?
>
>  
>
> PCLinuxOS:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# cat /proc/interrupts
> CPU0 CPU1
> 0: 39309 2494 IO-APIC-edge timer
> 6: 1 1 IO-APIC-edge floppy
> 8: 3 2 IO-APIC-edge rtc
> 9: 0 0 IO-APIC-level acpi
> 14: 4486 1 IO-APIC-edge ide0
> 16: 1146 1 IO-APIC-level libata, HDA Intel
> 17: 555 1 IO-APIC-level libata
> 18: 682 1 IO-APIC-level ohci_hcd:usb1
> 19: 2 1 IO-APIC-level ehci_hcd:usb2
> 20: 2 1 IO-APIC-level ohci1394
> 21: 29 1 IO-APIC-level eth0
> 22: 61 1 IO-APIC-level eth1
> NMI: 0 0
> LOC: 41779 41767
> ERR: 1
> MIS: 0
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]#
>
> Debian:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /proc/interrupts
> CPU0 CPU1
> 0: 84 1 IO-APIC-edge timer
> 1: 0 2 IO-APIC-edge i8042
> 6: 0 2 IO-APIC-edge floppy
> 8: 0 0 IO-APIC-edge rtc
> 9: 0 0 IO-APIC-fasteoi acpi
> 12: 0 4 IO-APIC-edge i8042
> 14: 0 764 IO-APIC-edge ide0
> 16: 0 257 IO-APIC-fasteoi ehci_hcd:usb1, HDA Intel
> 17: 2 1401 IO-APIC-fasteoi ohci_hcd:usb2
> 18: 0 36 IO-APIC-fasteoi eth1
> 19: 0 63 IO-APIC-fasteoi eth2
> 20: 0 2 IO-APIC-fasteoi ohci1394
> 21: 0 0 IO-APIC-fasteoi libata
> 22: 2 5733 IO-APIC-fasteoi libata
> NMI: 0 0
> LOC: 5171 8933
> ERR: 1
> MIS: 0
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$
>
> Knoppix:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /proc/interrupts
> CPU0 CPU1
> 0: 92 109261 IO-APIC-edge timer
> 1: 0 2 IO-APIC-edge i8042
> 6: 0 2 IO-APIC-edge floppy
> 8: 0 1 IO-APIC-edge rtc
> 9: 0 0 IO-APIC-fasteoi acpi
> 12: 0 4 IO-APIC-edge i8042
> 14: 1 2175 IO-APIC-edge ide0
> 16: 0 237 IO-APIC-fasteoi libata, HDA Intel
> 17: 1 242 IO-APIC-fasteoi libata
> 18: 0 3 IO-APIC-fasteoi ehci_hcd:usb1
> 19: 1 3640 IO-APIC-fasteoi ohci_hcd:usb2
> 20: 0 3 IO-APIC-fasteoi ohci1394
> 21: 15 8061 IO-APIC-fasteoi eth1
> NMI: 0 0
> LOC: 109311 109296
> ERR: 1
> MIS: 0
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$
>
> SabayonLinux:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ cat /proc/interrupts
> CPU0 CPU1
> 0: 250 0 IO-APIC-edge timer
> 1: 3 3 IO-APIC-edge i8042
> 6: 0 2 IO-APIC-edge floppy
> 8: 48 2 IO-APIC-edge rtc
> 9: 0 0 IO-APIC-fasteoi acpi
> 12: 0 4 IO-APIC-edge i8042
> 14: 6853 6 IO-APIC-edge libata
> 15: 0 0 IO-APIC-edge libata
> 16: 9568 4 IO-APIC-fasteoi ohci1394, nvidia
> 17: 1693 1 IO-APIC-fasteoi sata_nv, ohci_hcd:usb2
> 18: 164 5 IO-APIC-fasteoi sata_nv
> 19: 2 1 IO-APIC-fasteoi ehci_hcd:usb1
> 20: 6067 1 IO-APIC-fasteoi HDA Intel
> 21: 133 1 IO-APIC-fasteoi eth0
> 22: 77 1 IO-APIC-fasteoi eth1
> NMI: 0 0
> LOC: 292338 292302
> ERR: 1
> MIS: 0
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $
>
> Kubuntu 7.01:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /proc/interrupts
> CPU0 CPU1
> 0: 53890 2253 IO-APIC-edge timer
> 1: 0 2 IO-APIC-edge i8042
> 6: 1 1 IO-APIC-edge floppy
> 8: 28 2 IO-APIC-edge rtc
> 9: 0 0 IO-APIC-fasteoi acpi
> 12: 2 2 IO-APIC-edge i8042
> 14: 6506 1 IO-APIC-edge ide0
> 16: 5839 1 IO-APIC-fasteoi ohci_hcd:usb1, HDA Intel
> 17: 2 1 IO-APIC-fasteoi ehci_hcd:usb2
> 18: 1 1 IO-APIC-fasteoi ohci1394
> 19: 331 1 IO-APIC-fasteoi eth0
> 20: 87 1 IO-APIC-fasteoi eth1
> 21: 0 0 IO-APIC-fasteoi libata
> 22: 302 1 IO-APIC-fasteoi libata
> NMI: 0 0
> LOC: 56035 56045
> ERR: 1
> MIS: 0
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Bonnel Christophe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 5:37 AM
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: Slow Network Connection
>
> I can suggest you, if you have 2 PC and you use IPv4, to try netio
> http://freshmeat.net/projects/netio/
>
> You need to compile this old program. But i used to test connection 
> speed between my machines and it worked pretty good.
>
> Hope this helps
>
> Christophe
>
>
> Eric Estes a écrit :
>   
>> I just purchased a Shuttle XPC SN27P2 barebones system.
>> Chipset: North Bridge - Nvidia nForce 570 Ultra
>> Onboard NIC: Marvell 88E1116(10/100/1000Mbps) - I also added a Intel
>> Dual-Server NIC and disabled the Marvell
>>
>> I tried installing Debian 4.0r0, 4.0r1 and a nightly test build and they
>> all suffer from the same problem; an extremely slow connection to the
>> internet (about dial-up speed - I have a 5Meg cable connection).
>>
>> Yet, if I boot off of a PCLinuxOS Live CD the network works perfectly.
>>
>> I've changed cables and network cards with no luck. I'm hoping someone
>> here will see something that I've overlooked.
>>
>> Thank you.
>> 
>

Re: udev and automounting

2007-09-28 Thread Jesus Arocho
Try an entry in /etc/udev/10-local.rules; great howtos on the net.

On Thursday 27 September 2007 07:50, Dan H wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm really having trouble getting my head around udev and udev rules for
> removeable USB devices. When I plug in my USB stick, it automounts under
> /media/sda1. What I don't like is that I have to "su" to write to the stick
> and to unmount it again, so this automounting is pretty useless. I've tried
> to decipher the files under /etc/udev to find the rule that actually mounts
> stuff, but grepping for "mount" just shows me some unmounting detail in a
> file called "hal.rules".
>
> What I'd like is:
>
> 1. Automounting USB mass storage devices under some unique name determined
>by the label of the partition
>
> 2. Write access and unmounting by normal user.
>
> I've seen this work transparently under Gnome and KDE, but I use fvwm or no
> X at all so that's no option for me.
>
> Thanks
> --D.


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Re: How do you unmount all your drives

2007-09-28 Thread Raj Kiran Grandhi

Sid Arth wrote:

Hi, is there a command I can use that unmounts all unnecessary drives?
And what command can I use to just unmount one drive?


What do you mean by unnecessary? If you do not want to access files in 
those drives, you can unmount them with:


# umount /path/to/mount/point

That will unmount just one drive. You can issue the command:

# umount -a

to attempt to unmount *all* the drives. Note that the root filesystem 
cannot be unmounted.


If you don't want a particular drive to be mounted at the next reboot, 
edit the file '/etc/fstab' and comment out the corresponding lines.


If you are just looking for a way to suppress all the drive icons on 
your desktop (assuming you are using gnome) issue the command:


$ gconftool -s /apps/nautilus/desktop/volumes_visible -t bool false

hth,
Rajkiran


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Re: GNOME: Associate multiple queues with one printer: HOW?

2007-09-28 Thread Mike McCarty

Andrew Sackville-West wrote:

On Thu, Sep 27, 2007 at 01:14:06PM -0500, Mike McCarty wrote:

Mike McCarty wrote:

Thanks all for the advice and help with this. I went over

...

Windows XP.


...
snipped tale of the death of a free computer... and a fantastic
anecdote in support of RTFM!
...


[snip]



What can I say Mike, we tried. 


cheers


And I appreciate it.

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Re: Debian may lose a user

2007-09-28 Thread Mike McCarty

Kent West wrote:

Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

... (what' s a GF?) ...



Girl-Friend. (I used to understand the concept of girlfriends better 
before Debian came along )


The concept is not hazy, but the practice is. I don't understand
THEM much at all.

But, as I advised my son, I don't try too hard to learn to understand
them, I expend my efforts learning to appreciate them.

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Re: Debian may lose a user

2007-09-28 Thread Preston Boyington
Kent West wrote:
>
> Girl-Friend. (I used to understand the concept of girlfriends better
> before Debian came along )
> 

...that lives in another town and can't come to dance (prom, graduation,
party) because she always seems to get sick or help her parents.  :D


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Re: hp psc driver question

2007-09-28 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Sep 28, 2007 at 10:01:37AM +0200, steef wrote:
> Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
>> On Thu, Sep 27, 2007 at 11:53:44AM +0200, steef wrote:
>>   
>>> hi,
>>>
>>> cups gives a driver for the hp-printer psc (all in one) 2500. does 
>>> anybody know if this driver works also for the hp psc 2575?
>>> 
>>
>> according to:
>>
>> http://hplip.sourceforge.net/supported_devices/inkjet_aio.html
>>
>> its not (not listed) but since all the listed PSC's are supported as
>> of version .9.5 and sid's got 1.6.blah I think you're good to go. 
>> Note that google provides several hits that claim this printer works
>> as well. 
>> A
>>   
>
> ...thanks [again] andrew. yes, i saw the annotations via google, and, under 
> suse 10 (i use debian!) the machine seems to be supported by the same hplip 
> version as under etch (which i am using as production machine). so: taken 
> together with your advice i am convinced and will buy the hp psc2575 within 
> the hour (it's morning here)..

note that I'm not responsible if it doesn't work ;-) 

let us know!

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Re: can pbzip2 run on stdout?

2007-09-28 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Sep 28, 2007 at 10:08:14AM -0400, Stefhen Hovland wrote:
> 
> On 9/27/07, Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 27, 2007 at 02:57:40PM -0400, Stefhen Hovland wrote:
> > > Is this possible for pbzip2  to run on a tar which outputs to standard 
> > > out?
> > >
> > > I am trying to speed up a backup process which takes hours, i have
> > > about 100g of uncompressed data which will be tar'd up and is
> > > currently running thru gzip. This will be running on a 16 cpu box
> > > which would greatly speedup this issue.
> > >
> > > from:
> > >
> > > tar cf - . | gzip > /tmp/file.tar.gz
> > >
> > > to:
> > >
> > > tar cf - . | pbzip2 > /tmp/file.tar.bz2
> > >
> > >
> > > This doesnt seem to work, is it because there is no way to split the
> > > stdio to multiple processors on the fly?
> >
> > per
> >
> > http://compression.ca/pbzip2/
> >
> > ToDo
> >
> > - Add support for input from stdin & pipes
> >
> > google man!
> >

> Ahh crap, I looked thru that page, but didnt notice that. My fault :D

:)

my thought on this... I don't know how tar links in to bzip2 (which is
a compression option for tar (-j?). But maybe its possible to
substitute pbzip2 through something as simple as a symlink. Its a
stretch I know, but worth a shot. Also, out of curiousity, why not

tar -czf /tmp/file.tgz .

instead of the pipe? (unless you're actually piping through ssh or
something.)

anyway, since the idea above (symlink) will almopst certainly not
work, you'll probably have to sacrifice the storage space to tar it
all up into a file and then pbzip2 it separately. or hack the code,
but I'm willing to bet that parallelizing something coming from stdin
is non-trivial (I'm no coder...) and that's why its ToDo...

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Re: GNOME: Associate multiple queues with one printer: HOW?

2007-09-28 Thread Mike McCarty

Wackojacko wrote:

Mike McCarty wrote:



[snip]


to Debian. Her plan is to use Knoppix to move her mail files
etc. from the Debian partition to an external FAT drive,
and then reboot Windows and import.


If the debian install used ext2/3 then there is a driver for windows XP 
(http://www.fs-driver.org/) which will allow direct access to the 
partitions without the need to boot a live CD.


HTH


It very well might. Thanks!

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Re: binary packages versus source

2007-09-28 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 09:58:13AM +0200, pietia wrote:
> so , why the developers doesn't recompile their packages ? Or why there 
> are no
> packages in two version (compiled using gcc 3 and 4 )?
> 
> Sorry  for my questions - if sounds stupid.

Time to start reading about Debian.
Start at:

http://www.debian.org/devel/

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Re: Penalty of SELinux?

2007-09-28 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Sep 23, 2007 at 11:13:13AM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> Linux's target is the modern desktop and the focus is on keeping up with
> new hardware.  The BSDs keep the drivers for old hardware but patches
> require building and that building relies on gcc which isn't optimized
> for use on old systems.  
> 
> So I'll keep looking.

Ah what about embedded Debian? ulibc etc. Have to check it out myself,
although off the top off my head its for mobile devices, ... but who
knows.

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[solved] Re: how to find modifier key in KDE

2007-09-28 Thread H.S.
H.S. wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Just a little questions: How do I find out which one is the modifier key
> on a particular keyboard layout (layout in, variant guru) in KDE?
> 
> I am running updated Testing and am using the Keyboard layout switcher
> in KDE to switch between the layouts.
> 
> thanks,
> ->HS
> 
> 

My bad. I just had to activate a third level chooser key in KDE keyboard
switcher's configuration options -- and I can choose any key to be the
third level chooser from a number of given options.

->HS



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Re: How to reduce pdf file size with open source software?

2007-09-28 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 12:34:53AM -0700, Amit Uttamchandani wrote:
> > 
> > Sounds good to me, but I'm no image guru.
> > 
> 
> The only reason I asked was because in Mac OS X, when you click "Save As.." 
> under the "Preview" application (which is a PDF/Image viewer), there is a 
> "Reduce file size..." menu item that drastically reduces pdf file sizes. If I 
> am not mistaken it calls a Python script that automatically does this. I have 
> seen the script before and I just have to look for it now.
> 
> I thought there might have been a tool already available in the repos.

This from Sarge:

$ apt-cache search resize image | less

$ apt-cache show python2.3-imaging

Package: python2.3-imaging
Priority: optional
Section: python
Installed-Size: 840
Maintainer: Matthias Urlichs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Architecture: i386
Source: python-imaging
Version: 1.1.4-3.1
Replaces: pil, python-pil
Depends: python2.3, libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-4), libfreetype6 (>= 2.1.5-1), 
libjpeg62, zlib1g (>= 1:1.2.1), mime-support | python2.3-imaging-tk
Suggests: python-imaging-doc
Conflicts: pil, python-pil
Filename: pool/main/p/python-imaging/python2.3-imaging_1.1.4-3.1_i386.deb
Size: 233942
MD5sum: 1b89423be9e71f3cdfd39231de402848
SHA1: 9a519af1a066c2d09d6fcbb677cfc66b3dae8041
SHA256: 02988068765614c3c1852ade342e6d546b7510079c62c2f6d1738edc26c5af8a
Description: Python Imaging Library
 The Python Imaging Library (PIL) adds an image object to your Python
 interpreter. You can load images from a variety of file formats, and
 apply a rich set of image operations to them.
 .
 Image Objects:
  o Bilevel, greyscale, palette, true colour (RGB), true colour with
transparency (RGBA).
  o colour separation (CMYK).
  o Copy, cut, paste operations.
  o Flip, transpose, resize, rotate, and arbitrary affine transforms.
  o Transparency operations.
  o Channel and point operations.
  o Colour transforms, including matrix operations.
  o Image enhancement, including convolution filters.
 .
 File Formats:
  o Full (Open/Load/Save): BMP, EPS (with ghostscript), GIF, IM, JPEG,
MSP, PDF, PNG, PPM, TIFF, XBM.
  o Read only (Open/Load): ARG, CUR, DCX, FLI, FPX, GBR, GD, ICO, IMT, IPTC,
MCIDAS, MPEG, PhotoCD, PCX, PIXAR, PSD, TGA, SGI, SUN, TGA, WMF, XPM.
  o Save only: PDF, EPS (without ghostscript).
 .
 This is the Python 2.3 version of the package.

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Re: can pbzip2 run on stdout?

2007-09-28 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Sep 28, 2007 at 02:40:59PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 09/28/07 13:10, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> [snip]
> > 
> > my thought on this... I don't know how tar links in to bzip2 (which is
> > a compression option for tar (-j?). But maybe its possible to
> > substitute pbzip2 through something as simple as a symlink. Its a
> > stretch I know, but worth a shot. Also, out of curiousity, why not
> 
> 
> $ apt-cache show tar
> [snip]
> Pre-Depends: libc6 (>= 2.6-1)
> Suggests: bzip2, ncompress   <<<
> 
> $ apt-rdepends bzip2
> Reading package lists... Done
> Building dependency tree
> Reading state information... Done
> bzip2
>   Depends: libbz2-1.0 (= 1.0.3-7) <<<

well I said its a stretch... and I see that pbzip2 depends on the same
library, so it must just be a frontend that carves up the file into
chunks and sends it out to the different processors (I know naught of
these sorts of mechanisms). IOW, some serious hackery would be
involved to get it to do what he wants...

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Re: can pbzip2 run on stdout?

2007-09-28 Thread Ron Johnson
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On 09/28/07 13:10, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
[snip]
> 
> my thought on this... I don't know how tar links in to bzip2 (which is
> a compression option for tar (-j?). But maybe its possible to
> substitute pbzip2 through something as simple as a symlink. Its a
> stretch I know, but worth a shot. Also, out of curiousity, why not


$ apt-cache show tar
[snip]
Pre-Depends: libc6 (>= 2.6-1)
Suggests: bzip2, ncompress   <<<

$ apt-rdepends bzip2
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
bzip2
  Depends: libbz2-1.0 (= 1.0.3-7) <<<
libbz2-1.0
  Depends: libc6 (>= 2.5-5)
libc6
  Depends: libgcc1
libgcc1
  Depends: gcc-4.2-base (= 4.2.1-5)
  Depends: libc6 (>= 2.6-1)
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Re: How do you unmount all your drives

2007-09-28 Thread Sid Arth
Raj Kiran Grandhi wrote:
> Sid Arth wrote:
>> Hi, is there a command I can use that unmounts all unnecessary drives?
>> And what command can I use to just unmount one drive?
>>
>>
> What do you mean by unnecessary? If you do not want to access files in
> those drives, you can unmount them with:
>
> # umount /path/to/mount/point
>
> That will unmount just one drive. You can issue the command:
>
> # umount -a
>
> to attempt to unmount *all* the drives. Note that the root filesystem
> cannot be unmounted.
>
> If you don't want a particular drive to be mounted at the next reboot,
> edit the file '/etc/fstab' and comment out the corresponding lines.
>
> If you are just looking for a way to suppress all the drive icons on
> your desktop (assuming you are using gnome) issue the command:
>
> $ gconftool -s /apps/nautilus/desktop/volumes_visible -t bool false
>
> hth,
> Rajkiran
>
Thanks, I didnt want to unmount my filesystem, but its good to know that
it cant be unmounted.


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Re: efficiency of windows managers

2007-09-28 Thread David Brodbeck


On Sep 27, 2007, at 6:45 PM, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:

   So, for example, if I'm
   working in an x-term and I want another one, when it opens, the
   first one gets resized to half the screen and the new one gets the
   other half. Open another, and they each get squeezed into 1/3,
   etc. Its a little wierd at first, but after practice, it really
   begins to shine.


Hmm.  That seems like it'd be a pain with xterms, since text software  
often doesn't take well to having its window resized.  I try to keep  
my xterms as close to 80x24 as possible to minimize problems with  
things like aptitude.






Does lilo still have a limit on it's menu entries?

2007-09-28 Thread Nigel Henry
All my Debian installs, Sarge, Etch, and Lenny, originally started off as 
Woody 3.0r2, and LiLo was, and still is the bootloader. I installed on Etch 
yesterday the 2.6.18-5 kernel, which shows up in /boot ok, but running lilo 
doesn't add it to lilo's menu.

I read a while back that earlier versions of lilo could only have 6 entries on 
the menu. My lilo version is 1:22.6.1-9.3.

The original kernel when I installed Woody 3.0r2 was a bf one. It is still 
listed in /boot, and on lilo's menu. but is nowhere to be seen in synaptic, 
and no longer will boot with Etch. On the face of it, I can't see how to 
remove this original boot floppy kernel.

Can I just delete all references to the 2.4.18-bf2.4 kernel in /boot? Then run 
lilo again. It seems a bit of a hack, but I can't see any way around it as 
synaptic doesn't even list the bf kernel, and you can't uninstall something 
that's not on the list.

/etc/lilo.conf is below. There are 2 entries for the bf kernel, making 7 
entries in total, but I'm presuming that as both bf entries are pointing to 
the same kernel, lilo is reasoning that only 6 kernel entries are listed on 
the menu, but I may well be wrong in my reasoning.

# /etc/lilo.conf - See: `lilo(8)' and `lilo.conf(5)',
# ---   `install-mbr(8)', `/usr/share/doc/lilo/',
#   and `/usr/share/doc/mbr/'.

# +---+
# |!! Reminder !! |
# |   |
# | Don't forget to run `lilo' after you make changes to this |
# | conffile, `/boot/bootmess.txt', or install a new kernel.  The |
# | computer will most likely fail to boot if a kernel-image  |
# | post-install script or you don't remember to run `lilo'.  |
# |   |
# +---+

# Support LBA for large hard disks.
#
lba32

# Overrides the default mapping between harddisk names and the BIOS'
# harddisk order. Use with caution.
#disk=/dev/hde
#bios=0x81

#disk=/dev/sda
#bios=0x80

# Specifies the boot device.  This is where Lilo installs its boot
# block.  It can be either a partition, or the raw device, in which
# case it installs in the MBR, and will overwrite the current MBR.
#
boot=/dev/hda5

# Specifies the device that should be mounted as root. (`/')
#
root=/dev/hda5

# Enable map compaction:
# Tries to merge read requests for adjacent sectors into a single
# read request. This drastically reduces load time and keeps the
# map smaller.  Using `compact' is especially recommended when
# booting from a floppy disk.  It is disabled here by default
# because it doesn't always work.
#
# compact

# Installs the specified file as the new boot sector
# You have the choice between: bmp, compat, menu and text
# Look in /boot/ and in lilo.conf(5) manpage for details
#
install=/boot/boot-menu.b

# Specifies the location of the map file
#
map=/boot/map

# You can set a password here, and uncomment the `restricted' lines
# in the image definitions below to make it so that a password must
# be typed to boot anything but a default configuration.  If a
# command line is given, other than one specified by an `append'
# statement in `lilo.conf', the password will be required, but a
# standard default boot will not require one.
#
# This will, for instance, prevent anyone with access to the
# console from booting with something like `Linux init=/bin/sh',
# and thus becoming `root' without proper authorization.
#
# Note that if you really need this type of security, you will
# likely also want to use `install-mbr' to reconfigure the MBR
# program, as well as set up your BIOS to disallow booting from
# removable disk or CD-ROM, then put a password on getting into the
# BIOS configuration as well.  Please RTFM `install-mbr(8)'.
#
# password=tatercounter2000

# Specifies the number of deciseconds (0.1 seconds) LILO should
# wait before booting the first image.
#
delay=20

# You can put a customized boot message up if you like.  If you use
# `prompt', and this computer may need to reboot unattended, you
# must specify a `timeout', or it will sit there forever waiting
# for a keypress.  `single-key' goes with the `alias' lines in the
# `image' configurations below.  eg: You can press `1' to boot
# `Linux', `2' to boot `LinuxOLD', if you uncomment the `alias'.
#
# message=/boot/bootmess.txt
prompt
timeout=150
# prompt
# single-key
# delay=100
# timeout=100

# Specifies the VGA text mode at boot time. (normal, extended, ask, )
#
# vga=ask
# vga=9
#
vga=normal

# Kernel command line options that apply to all installed images go
# here.  See: The `boot-prompt-HOWO' and `kernel-parameters.txt' in
# the Linux kernel `Documentation' directory.
#
# append=""

# Boot up Linux by default.
#
default=Linux

image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.18-bf2.4
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Re: efficiency of windows managers

2007-09-28 Thread Pál Csányi
2007/9/28, David Brodbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>
> On Sep 27, 2007, at 6:45 PM, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
>So, for example, if I'm
>working in an x-term and I want another one, when it opens, the
>first one gets resized to half the screen and the new one gets the
>other half. Open another, and they each get squeezed into 1/3,
>etc. Its a little wierd at first, but after practice, it really
>begins to shine.
>
> Hmm.  That seems like it'd be a pain with xterms, since text software often
> doesn't take well to having its window resized.  I try to keep my xterms as
> close to 80x24 as possible to minimize problems with things like aptitude.

Where can I pass the -fn argument to xterm to set up font size, using dwm?

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How do you turn on and off a program automatcially

2007-09-28 Thread Sid Arth
Hi, I am running rtorrent and I was wondering if it is possible for the
system to turn the program off at certain times, and turn it back on at
other times.


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Re: efficiency of windows managers

2007-09-28 Thread Neil Watson

On Fri, Sep 28, 2007 at 10:43:38PM +0200, Pál Csányi wrote:

Where can I pass the -fn argument to xterm to set up font size, using dwm?


You can assign you xterm properties in .Xdefaults:

# fonts
xterm*faceName: Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Bold
xterm*faceSize: 12 


# other options
xterm*geometry: 127x50+1+1
xterm*tn: xterm
xterm*scrollBar: false
xterm*sl: 1000
xterm*colorMode: 1
xterm*Utf8: 1
xterm*loginShell: 1

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Re: efficiency of windows managers

2007-09-28 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Sep 28, 2007 at 01:32:43PM -0700, David Brodbeck wrote:
>
> On Sep 27, 2007, at 6:45 PM, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
>>So, for example, if I'm
>>working in an x-term and I want another one, when it opens, the
>>first one gets resized to half the screen and the new one gets the
>>other half. Open another, and they each get squeezed into 1/3,
>>etc. Its a little wierd at first, but after practice, it really
>>begins to shine.
>
> Hmm.  That seems like it'd be a pain with xterms, since text software often 
> doesn't take well to having its window resized.  I try to keep my xterms as 
> close to 80x24 as possible to minimize problems with things like aptitude.

its no doubt that's a problem that crops up occaisionaly. It depends
on the software though. I find that mutt running in a screen instance
within an xfterminal (or whatever xfce's temrinal is, hangover from
xfce install) will get pretty wonky after its been detached,
reattached on another machine (ssh) but not that often. Probably some
curses apps would have fits too. Sometimes pagination of manpages or
less sessions will get borked, but IME, the vast majority of the time
its not a problem. And the gui app don't mind at all, although,
if you're using a full-screen stacked setup, some of those print
dialogs or file-pickers look pretty funny all stretched out. 

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Re: Debian may lose a user

2007-09-28 Thread David Brodbeck


On Sep 28, 2007, at 11:22 AM, Mike McCarty wrote:


Kent West wrote:

Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

... (what' s a GF?) ...
Girl-Friend. (I used to understand the concept of girlfriends  
better before Debian came along )


The concept is not hazy, but the practice is. I don't understand
THEM much at all.

But, as I advised my son, I don't try too hard to learn to understand
them, I expend my efforts learning to appreciate them.


I think the problem is people focus on the 'girl' part and forget the  
'friend' part.





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Re: apt-get file:/; unloading kernel modules (2.6.18).

2007-09-28 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Thu, Sep 27, 2007 at 21:54:45 -0700, Vivek.M wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> 1. I have copied my Debian CDs to hard-disk and have added the
> required sources.list lines. The problem is that, when i do a apt-get
> install pkg, it tries to load from the internet since they have the
> latest pkg. Since i pay for data transfer, i was wondering if there
> was a way to tell apt-get to use file:/ instead of the net?

See the manpage of apt_preferences. (search for "local site")

[...]

> 2. Is there a way to tell the debian kernel module not to load certain
> modules. Blacklisting doesn't seem to be the right way from what i
> understood of the man modprobe.conf page. I've got pcspkr, rtc, ipv6,
> ali_agp, processor etc loaded and i don;t want to rmmod them - i'd
> rather not have them load. Is there any way to do this?


See "blacklist" in the manpage of modprobe.conf. Sometimes it can be
necessary to use "install MODULENAME /bin/true" in addition to the
blacklisting.

> I am using Debian Etch, kernel -2.6.18-5-486.

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xterm .Xdefaults & font size

2007-09-28 Thread Pál Csányi
2007/9/28, Neil Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Fri, Sep 28, 2007 at 10:43:38PM +0200, Pál Csányi wrote:
> >Where can I pass the -fn argument to xterm to set up font size, using dwm?
>
> You can assign you xterm properties in .Xdefaults:
>
> # fonts
> xterm*faceName: Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Bold

I edit the .Xdefaults :
xterm.*faceName: -biznet-fixed-*-*-*-*-24-*-*-*-*-*-*-*

run xterm but the font do not changes. Why?

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Re: How do you turn on and off a program automatcially

2007-09-28 Thread Peter Smerdon
Sid Arth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi, I am running rtorrent and I was wondering if it is possible for the
> system to turn the program off at certain times, and turn it back on at
> other times.

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Re: xterm .Xdefaults & font size

2007-09-28 Thread Peter Smerdon
"Pál Csányi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> 2007/9/28, Neil Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> On Fri, Sep 28, 2007 at 10:43:38PM +0200, Pál Csányi wrote:
>> >Where can I pass the -fn argument to xterm to set up font size, using dwm?
>>
>> You can assign you xterm properties in .Xdefaults:
>>
>> # fonts
>> xterm*faceName: Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Bold
>
> I edit the .Xdefaults :
> xterm.*faceName: -biznet-fixed-*-*-*-*-24-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
>
> run xterm but the font do not changes. Why?

did you run 'xrdb -merge ~/.Xresources' to add the changed resources or 
login/out of X?
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Re: Debian may lose a user

2007-09-28 Thread steef

David Brodbeck wrote:


On Sep 28, 2007, at 11:22 AM, Mike McCarty wrote:


Kent West wrote:

Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

... (what' s a GF?) ...
Girl-Friend. (I used to understand the concept of girlfriends better 
before Debian came along )


The concept is not hazy, but the practice is. I don't understand
THEM much at all.

But, as I advised my son, I don't try too hard to learn to understand
them, I expend my efforts learning to appreciate them.


I think the problem is people focus on the 'girl' part and forget the 
'friend' part.





that's exactly what i did in my younger days and now i am married for 
more than  40 years...


steef


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Re: xterm .Xdefaults & font size

2007-09-28 Thread Pál Csányi
2007/9/28, Peter Smerdon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> "Pál Csányi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > 2007/9/28, Neil Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >> On Fri, Sep 28, 2007 at 10:43:38PM +0200, Pál Csányi wrote:
> >> >Where can I pass the -fn argument to xterm to set up font size, using dwm?
> >>
> >> You can assign you xterm properties in .Xdefaults:
> >>
> >> # fonts
> >> xterm*faceName: Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Bold
> >
> > I edit the .Xdefaults :
> > xterm.*faceName: -biznet-fixed-*-*-*-*-24-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
> >
> > run xterm but the font do not changes. Why?
>
> did you run 'xrdb -merge ~/.Xresources' to add the changed resources or 
> login/out of X?

Yes, I did, I logout/login of X.

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Re: xterm .Xdefaults & font size

2007-09-28 Thread Liam O'Toole
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 23:08:21 +0200
"Pál Csányi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 2007/9/28, Neil Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > On Fri, Sep 28, 2007 at 10:43:38PM +0200, Pál Csányi wrote:
> > >Where can I pass the -fn argument to xterm to set up font size,
> > >using dwm?
> >
> > You can assign you xterm properties in .Xdefaults:
> >
> > # fonts
> > xterm*faceName: Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Bold
> 
> I edit the .Xdefaults :
> xterm.*faceName: -biznet-fixed-*-*-*-*-24-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
> 
> run xterm but the font do not changes. Why?
> 

The faceName resource is used to select fonts using the FreeType
library. I am not familiar with the 'biznet' font. Is it available to
FreeType? You can check using the 'fc-list' command.

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Re: efficiency of windows managers

2007-09-28 Thread Manu Hack
On 9/27/07, Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 27, 2007 at 04:41:12PM -0400, Manu Hack wrote:
> > On 9/27/07, Andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Am Donnerstag, 27. September 2007 21:02 schrieb Manu Hack:
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > I have a general question which I got when trying out different
> > > > windows managers/desktop environments.  When I try to use windowmaker
> > > > (I wanted to make my computer faster as it's getting old), it
> > > > certainly is fast for initialization.  But after that when around
> > > > 10-15 windows are opened and distributed in different workspaces, I
> > > > found moving around different workspaces and windows pretty slow (I
> > > > compared with KDE which I usually use.) and thus I still decided to
> > > > stick with KDE for the moment.  Maybe the comparison is not fair as
> > > > KDE definitely needs longer time to initialize.  But my question is,
> > > > is there a reason for that?
> > > >
> > > > Manu
> > > You might need more RAM
> >
> > I agree. :) But I'm still confused as to why KDE can outperform (at
> > least up to my experience) a supposedly light weight wm (maybe
> > windowmaker is not lightweight enough, will try fluxbox later) on the
> > same machine.  Is that because of something like memory management or
> > something like that?
>
> its probably got more to do with memory *use* than management. By that
> I mean, you may end up wasting memory by using kde apps within a
> different wm. The kde apps will load up whole bunches of kde libs in
> order to function in addition to the libs used by whatever wm you're
> using. You haven't said what your 10-15 windows are doing, so I'm only
> guessing. Also, it what ways does kde perform better than windowmaker?
> is it in overall response of the system? screen drawing? window
> dragging? just switching from one app to another within the same
> workspace?

More windows are pretty standard, like gaim, iceweasel, icedove,
xchat, amule, etc.  The thing happened is that whenever I need to move
to a workspace with more than 3 windows already there, it takes
seconds to "reload" and always give me a window on top which is not
previous on the top.  I don't know why but it never happened in KDE or
Xfce.

>
> >
> > The reason I'm asking is that I want to change because before I
> > thought I can improve the efficiency by using a more lightweight wm
> > but it turns out it's not true in my case.  So maybe as long as the
> > memory is enough to use KDE (or GNOME), KDE can be faster than those
> > lightweight wm because they use more memory?
>
> you should do some more comprehensive testing to see if you can figure
> out what's going on. keep an eye on a top instance or two and sort
> them by processor usage and memory usage. That will give some
> insight.

Yeah, will do if I have the time.  But at the moment I'm very happy
with xfce4.4 (fast and with the real transparency stuff). :)


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rescue bootable cd ???

2007-09-28 Thread helices
I have several rather complex debian systems, including software raid 5
and lvm, &c.

Occasionally, in the past, I have upgraded a debian system, after which
it no longer boots successfully.  Unfortunately, for these complex
systems, neither the install/boot media, nor knoppix, result in access
to the files necessary to recover these systems.

So, going forward, I want to incorporate generation of bootable rescue
cd's into my upgrade processes.  Clearly, such a cd will exactly
duplicate my last successful boot, and give access to ALL files and
filesystems.

[1] What is the simplest & most reliable process for creating such a cd?

[2] Upgrading WHICH packages should be followed by creating such cd?
Obviously, upgrading vim itself is NOT likely to jeopardize my next
boot; but, the kernel, some libraries, and some packages involved in the
early boot stages, are possible culprits.

What do you do?

What do you think?

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Re: xterm .Xdefaults & font size

2007-09-28 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Sep 28, 2007 at 11:37:36PM +0200, Pál Csányi wrote:
> 2007/9/28, Peter Smerdon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > "Pál Csányi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > > 2007/9/28, Neil Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > >> On Fri, Sep 28, 2007 at 10:43:38PM +0200, Pál Csányi wrote:
> > >> >Where can I pass the -fn argument to xterm to set up font size, using 
> > >> >dwm?
> > >>
> > >> You can assign you xterm properties in .Xdefaults:
> > >>
> > >> # fonts
> > >> xterm*faceName: Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Bold
> > >
> > > I edit the .Xdefaults :
> > > xterm.*faceName: -biznet-fixed-*-*-*-*-24-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
> > >

The closest I have to xterm installed is aterm and it specifies that
for '-fn' argument, use the resource name 'font' so try

xterm*font: -biznetblachblahblah
xterm*boldfont: -biznetblahblhablah

> > > run xterm but the font do not changes. Why?
> >
> > did you run 'xrdb -merge ~/.Xresources' to add the changed resources or 
> > login/out of X?
> 
> Yes, I did, I logout/login of X.

that may require a full restart of X, I'm not sure, but just FTR,
if you're already editing ~/.Xdefaults on a cli somewhere, its pretty
darn easy to do the `xrdb -merge ~/.Xdefaults && xterm` and see
results immediately. Also, I use ~/.Xdefaults not ~/.Xresources. I'm
not sure if that's critical, but sure could be.

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Re: Debian may lose a user

2007-09-28 Thread Ron Johnson
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On 09/28/07 16:31, steef wrote:
> David Brodbeck wrote:
>>
>> On Sep 28, 2007, at 11:22 AM, Mike McCarty wrote:
>>
>>> Kent West wrote:
 Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> ... (what' s a GF?) ...
 Girl-Friend. (I used to understand the concept of girlfriends better
 before Debian came along )
>>>
>>> The concept is not hazy, but the practice is. I don't understand
>>> THEM much at all.
>>>
>>> But, as I advised my son, I don't try too hard to learn to understand
>>> them, I expend my efforts learning to appreciate them.
>>
>> I think the problem is people focus on the 'girl' part and forget the
>> 'friend' part.
>>
> that's exactly what i did in my younger days and now i am married for
> more than  40 years...

Focus on the "girl" and forget about the "friend"?

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soekris net5501 and vpn14[01]1

2007-09-28 Thread Martin Marcher
Hello,

I'm looking for a router, VPN server box. The soekris hardware[] seems
to be exactly what I want. Seems it would work fine even withoug the
vpn card. Initial googling showed me a vast amount of working *bsd
installations but no clear answer on the linux part.

I'd rather have debian on this box as I'm more used to the OS and it's
configuration quirks (some are always there :)).

Is the mentioned vpn card[1] ready to use in the stock debian kernel,
and (this is something in found in several openbsd mailing lists) will
openssl/gnutls use it's capabilities or would that be lost money?

thanks for your input


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Re: efficiency of windows managers

2007-09-28 Thread Ron Johnson
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On 09/28/07 17:21, Manu Hack wrote:
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> 
> Yeah, will do if I have the time.  But at the moment I'm very happy
> with xfce4.4 (fast and with the real transparency stuff). :)

What's the benefit of transparency?

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Re: rescue bootable cd ???

2007-09-28 Thread Bill Thompson
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On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 17:27:02 -0500
helices <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> What do you do?
> 

If you are looking at just recovering a system that won't boot, you
don't need a specific Debian disk to do it. I usually carry a copy of
the System Rescue CD (http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page). It has all
of the tools I need to recover a downed system. If I need to work on
the Debian system itself, I mount the drive and chroot into the
partition. Once there I can su to root so that I am using the proper
Debian environment, run apt-get to update software, and test the
configuration of any of the installed services or utilities.

Why re-invent the wheel?

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Re: rescue bootable cd ???

2007-09-28 Thread Bill Thompson
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 17:27:02 -0500
helices <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> What do you do?
> 

If you are looking at just recovering a system that won't boot, you
don't need a specific Debian disk to do it. I usually carry a copy of
the System Rescue CD (http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page). It has all
of the tools I need to recover a downed system. If I need to work on
the Debian system itself, I mount the drive and chroot into the
partition. Once there I can su to root so that I am using the proper
Debian environment, run apt-get to update software, and test the
configuration of any of the installed services or utilities.

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Re: efficiency of windows managers

2007-09-28 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Sep 28, 2007 at 06:21:31PM -0400, Manu Hack wrote:
> On 9/27/07, Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > its probably got more to do with memory *use* than management. By that
> > I mean, you may end up wasting memory by using kde apps within a
> > different wm. The kde apps will load up whole bunches of kde libs in
> > order to function in addition to the libs used by whatever wm you're
> > using. You haven't said what your 10-15 windows are doing, so I'm only
> > guessing. Also, it what ways does kde perform better than windowmaker?
> > is it in overall response of the system? screen drawing? window
> > dragging? just switching from one app to another within the same
> > workspace?
> 
> More windows are pretty standard, like gaim, iceweasel, icedove,
> xchat, amule, etc.  The thing happened is that whenever I need to move
> to a workspace with more than 3 windows already there, it takes
> seconds to "reload"

that sounds like either you're swapping or some problem with X
itself. Again, watch top and see what process is spiking during that
time and maybe you can narrow it down.


> and always give me a window on top which is not
> previous on the top. 

that's a WM problem for sure.

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Re: efficiency of windows managers

2007-09-28 Thread Manu Hack
On 9/28/07, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On 09/28/07 17:21, Manu Hack wrote:
> [snip]
> >
> > Yeah, will do if I have the time.  But at the moment I'm very happy
> > with xfce4.4 (fast and with the real transparency stuff). :)
>
> What's the benefit of transparency?

Not much.  And I'm not saying xfce4.4 is good only because of the transparency.


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Re: Nspluginwrapper on AMD64

2007-09-28 Thread Sridhar M.A.
On Fri, Sep 28, 2007 at 10:43:43AM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:
   > 
   > The two related bugs in the BTS seem to be about "experimental" versions
   > of flashplugin-nonfree. Which version are you trying to install? Version
   > 9.0.48.0.2 works fine on my Sid/amd64 system, without any need for a
   > 32bit chroot.
   > 
Sorry for replying late.

Since, I am tracking sid, I have the latest version of
flashplugin-nonfree on the system (9.0.48.0.2).

   > This statement is a bit confusing. Did you install flashplayer in a
   > 32bit chroot or not? 
   > 
I installed flashplayer-nonfree which pulled in
install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz from macromedia.com

   > No, the dependency is satisfied because util-linux provides linux32:
   > 
My bad. Should have looked at Provides of util-linux more clearly.

I purged nspluginwrapper and flashplugin-nonfree and installed them
again. Here is the final result:


Download done.
Flash Plugin installed.
/usr/lib/nspluginwrapper/i386/linux/npviewer.bin: 
/usr/lib/nspluginwrapper/i386/linux/npviewer.bin: cannot execute binary file
nspluginwrapper: no appropriate viewer found for 
/usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so
dpkg: error processing flashplugin-nonfree (--configure):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
Errors were encountered while processing:
 flashplugin-nonfree
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
A package failed to install.  Trying to recover:
Setting up flashplugin-nonfree (9.0.48.0.2) ...
Installing from local file 
/var/cache/flashplugin-nonfree/install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz
Flash Plugin installed.
/usr/lib/nspluginwrapper/i386/linux/npviewer.bin: 
/usr/lib/nspluginwrapper/i386/linux/npviewer.bin: cannot execute binary file
nspluginwrapper: no appropriate viewer found for 
/usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so
dpkg: error processing flashplugin-nonfree (--configure):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
Errors were encountered while processing:
 flashplugin-nonfree

Am I missing something in the installation chain that is causing this? 

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Re: rescue bootable cd ???

2007-09-28 Thread helices
* Bill Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007:09:28:16:18:26-0700] scribed:
> On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 17:27:02 -0500
> helices <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > What do you do?
> > 
> 
> If you are looking at just recovering a system that won't boot, you
> don't need a specific Debian disk to do it. I usually carry a copy of
> the System Rescue CD (http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page). It has all
> of the tools I need to recover a downed system. If I need to work on
> the Debian system itself, I mount the drive and chroot into the
> partition. Once there I can su to root so that I am using the proper
> Debian environment, run apt-get to update software, and test the
> configuration of any of the installed services or utilities.
> 
> Why re-invent the wheel?

Well, because the two (2) systems on which I have experienced these --
to me -- insurmountable boot problems were running lvm on top of
software raid 5.  I was NOT able to get to the root filesystem files
using debian rescue cd nor knoppix.  Both times this happened, it had
something to do with initramfs; but, after many, many days of struggle,
it became easier to rebuild from scratch, and to restore specifics on
top of that from tape.

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Re: rescue bootable cd ???

2007-09-28 Thread Owen Heisler
On Fri, 2007.09.28 21:25, helices wrote:
> Bill Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007:09:28:16:18:26-0700] scribed:
> > If you are looking at just recovering a system that won't boot, you
> > don't need a specific Debian disk to do it. I usually carry a copy of
> > the System Rescue CD (http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page). It has all
> > of the tools I need to recover a downed system. If I need to work on
> > the Debian system itself, I mount the drive and chroot into the
> > partition. Once there I can su to root so that I am using the proper
> > Debian environment, run apt-get to update software, and test the
> > configuration of any of the installed services or utilities.
> > 
> > Why re-invent the wheel?
> 
> Well, because the two (2) systems on which I have experienced these --
> to me -- insurmountable boot problems were running lvm on top of
> software raid 5.  I was NOT able to get to the root filesystem files
> using debian rescue cd nor knoppix.  Both times this happened, it had
> something to do with initramfs; but, after many, many days of struggle,
> it became easier to rebuild from scratch, and to restore specifics on
> top of that from tape.

When I started using encryption, I was concerned about having access to the 
data easily in the case of a broken system.  I wanted a rescue/live CD that 
would provide all the necessary Debian tools similarly enough that I could 
easily rescue my data using it if necessary.  What I now use primarily is GRML 
from http://www.grml.org ; it is closely based on Debian, such that it actually 
resembles Debian (contrasted with Knoppix which, as far as I know, does not
resemble Debian and is not really compatible with Debian's packages) and 
includes many Debian packages.  As I see it: if you manage to set something up
using Debian, GRML ought to work with it too without any problems.


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Re: bash, xbindkeys and dual screen

2007-09-28 Thread Nguyen, Cuong K.

On 09/27/2007 06:37 PM, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:

I haven't tried two distinct screens, so I can't directly compare
them. I find the moving of the mouse from one screen to the other to
be intuitive and natural for me, but in reality, I rarely use the
mouse anymore. I probably don't need to use xinerama except that it
easily flows with my usage of wmii. For example, in wmii to move a
window into a column on the right of your "screen" you use
Alt-shift-l. I have my wmii set up to split the column at 50%. Since
my screens are the same size, that puts the split right at the edge of
the monitors. I always have more than one window open so I get two
screens each with a full screen window in it. It just naturally works
well for me. 

  
Yeah Andrew, wmii in your setup of xinerama will be much more 
convenient, especially you have two monitors with the same size and they 
are placed next to each other. Thanks for pointing that out.


KC.


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what packages do you reccomend to compile source

2007-09-28 Thread Sid Arth
Hi,
I was wondering what packages you guys would recommend for me to get
if I wanted to compile some programs from source.

Sid


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Re: what packages do you reccomend to compile source

2007-09-28 Thread Wei Wang
Package build-essential contians c/c++ compiler

aptitude install build-essential

On Fri, 2007-09-28 at 21:54 -0500, Sid Arth wrote:
> Hi,
> I was wondering what packages you guys would recommend for me to get
> if I wanted to compile some programs from source.
> 
> Sid
> 
> 


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Re: what packages do you reccomend to compile source

2007-09-28 Thread Kevin Mark
On Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 01:02:35PM +1000, Wei Wang wrote:
> Package build-essential contians c/c++ compiler
> 
> aptitude install build-essential
The 'build-essential' meta-package is a great start. Next you will want
many -dev packages. If you needed the Python galago development files
than you'd install:
python-galago-dev - Galago presence library (Python interface)
apt-get install python-galago-dev
and similar for what ever you './configure' script spits out.
So 'apt-cache search xyz |grep dev' would be a way to look for dev
packages which have xyz in them.

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Re: soekris net5501 and vpn14[01]1

2007-09-28 Thread Kevin Mark
On Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 12:31:06AM +0200, Martin Marcher wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I'm looking for a router, VPN server box. The soekris hardware[] seems
> to be exactly what I want. Seems it would work fine even withoug the
> vpn card. Initial googling showed me a vast amount of working *bsd
> installations but no clear answer on the linux part.
> 
> I'd rather have debian on this box as I'm more used to the OS and it's
> configuration quirks (some are always there :)).
> 
> Is the mentioned vpn card[1] ready to use in the stock debian kernel,
> and (this is something in found in several openbsd mailing lists) will
> openssl/gnutls use it's capabilities or would that be lost money?
> 
> thanks for your input
http://pyramid.metrix.net/trac/wiki/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
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Re: what packages do you reccomend to compile source

2007-09-28 Thread Wei Wang
For a specific package (eg. netpbm) which might need development
libraries. 

apt-get build-dep packagename

In case build errors arise, try the above way.

On Fri, 2007-09-28 at 23:32 -0400, Kevin Mark wrote:
> The 'build-essential' meta-package is a great start. Next you will want
> many -dev packages. If you needed the Python galago development files
> than you'd install:
> python-galago-dev - Galago presence library (Python interface)
> apt-get install python-galago-dev
> and similar for what ever you './configure' script spits out.
> So 'apt-cache search xyz |grep dev' would be a way to look for dev
> packages which have xyz in them.
> 
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Re: Does lilo still have a limit on it's menu entries?

2007-09-28 Thread Mumia W..

On 09/28/2007 03:18 PM, Nigel Henry wrote:
All my Debian installs, Sarge, Etch, and Lenny, originally started off as 
Woody 3.0r2, and LiLo was, and still is the bootloader. I installed on Etch 
yesterday the 2.6.18-5 kernel, which shows up in /boot ok, but running lilo 
doesn't add it to lilo's menu.


I read a while back that earlier versions of lilo could only have 6 entries on 
the menu. My lilo version is 1:22.6.1-9.3.


The original kernel when I installed Woody 3.0r2 was a bf one. It is still 
listed in /boot, and on lilo's menu. but is nowhere to be seen in synaptic, 
and no longer will boot with Etch. On the face of it, I can't see how to 
remove this original boot floppy kernel.


Can I just delete all references to the 2.4.18-bf2.4 kernel in /boot? Then run 
lilo again. It seems a bit of a hack, but I can't see any way around it as 
synaptic doesn't even list the bf kernel, and you can't uninstall something 
that's not on the list.


/etc/lilo.conf is below. [...]


I have very little experience with Lilo under Debian, though I used it 
under Slackware.


I don't know about the six item limit, but I suggest you manually delete 
the references to the bf kernels, but read "man liloconfig" and "man 
update-lilo" first. If the bf kernels do not appear in /boot, 
update-lilo may remove them from /etc/lilo.conf automatically.


I also suggest that you remove, possibly using synaptic, any kernels 
that don't boot the system up properly.



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Re: rescue bootable cd ???

2007-09-28 Thread Mumia W..

On 09/28/2007 09:25 PM, helices wrote:

* Bill Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007:09:28:16:18:26-0700] scribed:

On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 17:27:02 -0500
helices <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


What do you do?

If you are looking at just recovering a system that won't boot, you 
don't need a specific Debian disk to do it. I usually carry a copy of 
the System Rescue CD (http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page). It has all 
of the tools I need to recover a downed system. If I need to work on 
the Debian system itself, I mount the drive and chroot into the 
partition. Once there I can su to root so that I am using the proper 
Debian environment, run apt-get to update software, and test the 
configuration of any of the installed services or utilities.


Why re-invent the wheel?


Well, because the two (2) systems on which I have experienced these -- 
to me -- insurmountable boot problems were running lvm on top of 
software raid 5.  I was NOT able to get to the root filesystem files 
using debian rescue cd nor knoppix.  Both times this happened, it had 
something to do with initramfs; but, after many, many days of struggle, 
it became easier to rebuild from scratch, and to restore specifics on 
top of that from tape.


What am I missing?



I don't know, but you might try Bill Thompson's suggestion of System 
Rescue CD as well as the new Knoppix CD, 5.1.1.


As far as initramfs is concerned, I suggest removing it from the 
equation by compiling a kernel with everything you need to access the 
disk built directly into the kernel; don't rely on an initrd at all.


To attempt to answer your first question, I'll say "look at the Debian 
Installer." You can probably create a specialized installer CD for your 
environment; however this is much harder than using a Knoppix CD.


To attempt to answer your second question, I'll say "talk to the Debian 
Installer developers." Finding out what parts of the installer CD need 
to be updated when the O/S is updated is complicated enough to require 
the input of the experts.


Now I have a few questions:

What version of Knoppix failed for you before?

Do you have a separate /boot partition that is on a filesystem that Grub 
can recognize? Read the document "info grub intro features" to get a 
list of supported filesystems.


If /boot is on a Grub-supported filesystem/partition, is the initial 
root disk on that partition?


Is /boot on an lvm volume? (Probably not, because the system wouldn't boot.)


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syslog recommendations?

2007-09-28 Thread Rogelio Bastardo
I'm looking for a few F/OSS syslog programs -- one easy to use (sort of like
Kiwi syslog) and another that's much more scalable and would let me, say,
aggregate logs from lots of different boxes and maybe even do other sorts of
cool things (find patterns, etc).

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.


Re: efficiency of windows managers

2007-09-28 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Fri, Sep 28, 2007 at 01:32:43PM -0700, David Brodbeck wrote:

> Hmm.  That seems like it'd be a pain with xterms, since text software often 
> doesn't take well to having its window resized.  I try to keep my xterms as 
> close to 80x24 as possible to minimize problems with things like aptitude.

I don't recall such problems with aptitude. I'm resizing it quite often 
as I like my xterm (mlterm) fullscreen, but sometimes I start the 
program first. Maybe it depends also on the xterm used. If you encounter 
such problems again maybe you should try a few other xterms just to be 
sure.

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Re: rescue bootable cd ???

2007-09-28 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Fri, Sep 28, 2007 at 05:27:02PM -0500, helices wrote:
 
> So, going forward, I want to incorporate generation of bootable rescue
> cd's into my upgrade processes.  Clearly, such a cd will exactly
> duplicate my last successful boot, and give access to ALL files and
> filesystems.
> 
> [1] What is the simplest & most reliable process for creating such a cd?

I'm not sure how simple it is, but you should have a look at Live Debian 
(http://debian-live.alioth.debian.org/). The project provides prebuilt 
images, but you can also build your own and it uses only standard Debian 
packages.

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Re: efficiency of windows managers

2007-09-28 Thread Pál Csányi
What about stumpwm?

http://www.nongnu.org/stumpwm/

Use this window manager somebody on Debian Etch?

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Re: xterm .Xdefaults & font size

2007-09-28 Thread Pál Csányi
2007/9/29, Liam O'Toole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 23:08:21 +0200
> "Pál Csányi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > 2007/9/28, Neil Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > On Fri, Sep 28, 2007 at 10:43:38PM +0200, Pál Csányi wrote:
> > > >Where can I pass the -fn argument to xterm to set up font size,
> > > >using dwm?
> > >
> > > You can assign you xterm properties in .Xdefaults:
> > >
> > > # fonts
> > > xterm*faceName: Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Bold
> >
> > I edit the .Xdefaults :
> > xterm.*faceName: -biznet-fixed-*-*-*-*-24-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
> >
> > run xterm but the font do not changes. Why?
> >
>
> The faceName resource is used to select fonts using the FreeType
> library. I am not familiar with the 'biznet' font. Is it available to
> FreeType? You can check using the 'fc-list' command.

No, it is not available. I checked out with 'fc-list'.

So, I decide to use rxvt (xterm that support the biznet fonts).

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Re: xterm .Xdefaults & font size

2007-09-28 Thread Pál Csányi
2007/9/28, Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Fri, Sep 28, 2007 at 11:37:36PM +0200, Pál Csányi wrote:
> > 2007/9/28, Peter Smerdon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > "Pál Csányi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > >
> > > > 2007/9/28, Neil Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > >> On Fri, Sep 28, 2007 at 10:43:38PM +0200, Pál Csányi wrote:
> > > >> >Where can I pass the -fn argument to xterm to set up font size, using 
> > > >> >dwm?
> > > >>
> > > >> You can assign you xterm properties in .Xdefaults:
> > > >>
> > > >> # fonts
> > > >> xterm*faceName: Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Bold
> > > >
> > > > I edit the .Xdefaults :
> > > > xterm.*faceName: -biznet-fixed-*-*-*-*-24-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
> > > >
>
> The closest I have to xterm installed is aterm and it specifies that
> for '-fn' argument, use the resource name 'font' so try
>
> xterm*font: -biznetblachblahblah
> xterm*boldfont: -biznetblahblhablah
>
> > > > run xterm but the font do not changes. Why?
> > >
> > > did you run 'xrdb -merge ~/.Xresources' to add the changed resources or 
> > > login/out of X?
> >
> > Yes, I did, I logout/login of X.
>
> that may require a full restart of X, I'm not sure, but just FTR,
> if you're already editing ~/.Xdefaults on a cli somewhere, its pretty
> darn easy to do the `xrdb -merge ~/.Xdefaults && xterm` and see
> results immediately. Also, I use ~/.Xdefaults not ~/.Xresources. I'm
> not sure if that's critical, but sure could be.

Thank you all for help!

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