Re: debian oriented laptot suggestions

2007-09-15 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 14 Sep 2007, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Sep 2007, Anthony Campbell wrote:
> > I now have ATI and sound working but not wireless and I'm not the only
> > one. I've installed firmware-iwlwifi, which is supposed to work. After
> 
> It took a while for ipw2200 to work right, I don't think iwlwifi is there
> yet (unless you're using 2.6.23-rc or something like that).  You could try
> using the most up-to-date version possible of iwlwifi and mac80211
> backported for whatever kernel version you are using.  Get it from
> http://intellinuxwireless.org/?p=iwlwifi
> 
> I had to keep up with the development versions of ipw2200 for a while before
> it was good enough that I'd care to update only to whatever made it to Linux
> mainline.
> 

Thanks for this pointer. I had tried going back to the previous method
but that didn't work either. As I do have a wired connection I may use
that for the present until things improve. 

I was wondering about ndiswrapper. Is that a possibility? I know nothing
about it.

Anthony


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Midnight Commander / Etch

2007-09-15 Thread Debian

Hi everybody,
I just reinstalled a box from netinst
I am experiencing a segmentation fault with MC when using Copy or Move
MC version: 4.6.1
Etch kernel: 2.6.18-4-486
can someone help me (I already search and found some related issue but 
all are supposed to be already solved on Debian)

Thanks a lot
Raymond


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Re: UPDATE: Always falling to grub prompt (now I don't even have prompt)

2007-09-15 Thread Hans Hofker

Victor Munoz wrote:

Currently, my /etc/fstab is:

/dev/hdd2 / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1
/dev/hdd1 /boot ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 2
/dev/hdd3 none swap sw 0 0
proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
/dev/hda /media/cdrom udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0
/dev/fda /media/floppy auto rw,user,noauto 0 0

All menu.lst entries are of the form:

root (hd1,1)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz- root=/dev/hdd2 ro
initrd /boot/initrd.img-

And device.map is, as before:

(hd0) /dev/hdc
(hd1) /dev/hdd

And I have two bootable partitions, /dev/hdc (Windows), and /dev/hdd1
(/boot partition).

I've tried several things: boot from Debian Live CD/Etch Disk 1/Gparted Live
CD, then change the order of entries in /etc/fstab,
changing the pass-number parameter in /etc/fstab (hdd1 and hdd2
had pass number 1, and I changed it to be 2 and 1, respectively, have
run update-initramfs again, but nothing. 


I understand that, now that partitions are in order, /dev/hdd2, which
is the root filesystem according to fstab, will be (hd1,1) for grub, and
that kernels should be found in (hd1,1)/boot/, thus the "kernel" line
in menu.lst should be /boot/vmlinuz, if root="(hd1,1)". Right?
  
I think the 'root' command should specify the partition where the boot 
directory is located, so it should be (hd1,0) rather than (hd1,1).
Furthermore, the kernels are not located on the hdd2-partition, so they 
are not in (hd1,1)/boot/, but they are in (hd1,0)/

So you could try to change your entries in menu.lst to:

root (hd1,0)
kernel (hd1,0)/vmlinuz- root=/dev/hdd2 ro
initrd (hd1,0)/initrd.img-

or, omitting the device-specification in the 'kernel' and 'initrd' 
command (since the device is equal to the root device):


root (hd1,0)
kernel /vmlinuz- root=/dev/hdd2 ro
initrd /initrd.img-



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[Fwd: segmentation_fault]

2007-09-15 Thread steef


greetings to you all,

i am using etch, kernel 2.6.18-5-486. it worked fine till xine (compiled 
from their site) without any warning started crashing the xserver, and 
mplayer (compiled from 'their' site too) refused to start up with the 
message 'segmentation fault'. i repeated this several times for both, 
xine and mplayer, with the same results. in my opinion i did nothing 
peculiar to have caused this myself.


i compiledin to my 
kernel ages ago. all worked fine for months. 

i guess i can live with this (got another machine with a etch and lenny 
distro) but i am very curious what can be the cause of this  and what i 
can do to repair thids should it somehow happen agaian.


in advance thanks for your help

regards,

steef



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Re: inserting line breals

2007-09-15 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Sep 05, 2007 at 02:50:12PM -0400, Nathan wrote:
> I've found a perl script on the 'Net that does a very good job of 
> recursively searching a directory of sub-directories and files.  I pipe the 
> output to the 'mail' program and email it to myself.  However it would help 
> the readability of the text if I could add an extra line break (carriage 
> return) to each existing line break.  Effectively I would to double-space 
> it.
>
> I am not a perl guru in any shape or form.  Can anyone offer suggestions on 
> the best way to go about this?  Thanks.

http://www.student.northpark.edu/pemente/sed/sed1line.txt

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Re: Phone spam payback

2007-09-15 Thread Ron Johnson
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On 09/14/07 19:50, Mike McClain wrote:
> Today I had 7 messages on the answering machine all with 
> the same voice leaving the same message, ' We have a very

If you are in the US, sign up for the No Call list.  In my
experience, it has been very effective.

> important message for Mike but all our agents are busy. Please
> hold.' I get so many messages from people who don't know
> anything about me but that I might have money I might send
> them that I'm wondering about the legality of setting up a
> script to read phone numbers from a list and call those numbers
> with the modem. I suspect if I removed the 'ABORT  VOICE' 
> statement from the chatscript that it would just screech in 
> their ear till they disconnect.
> Thoughts?

What does this have to do with Linux or Debian?  Did you neglect to
inform us of some pertinent information?

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Re: Linux Printer Sharing

2007-09-15 Thread Ron Johnson
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On 09/14/07 20:59, steve wrote:
> ArcticFox wrote:
>> I have an HP printer that I would like to share to my other two
>> computers. One's a Mac and the other's Windows. The printer will be
>> connected to the server through USB, I can get the server to print to
>> the printer, but I can't get the other two computers to find it.
>>
>> Please help, I've no idea what else to do!
>>
>>
> cant help with the windows side, but the mac should have cups already

SAMBA

> running.   try localhost:631 from a browser on the mac box and configure
> from there. if cups isnt running or installed then install it first.
> then  administration -> add printer , location is the only thing that
> really needs to be correct ...that would be /the ip of the linux
> box/printers/name of the printer

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segmentation_fault

2007-09-15 Thread steef

greetings to you all,

i am using etch, kernel 2.6.18-5-486. it worked fine till xine (compiled 
from their site) without any warning started crashing the xserver and 
mplayer (compiled from 'their' site too) refused to start up with the 
message 'segmentation fault'. i repeated this several times for both, 
xine and mplayer, with the same results. in my opinion i did nothing 
peculiar to have caused this myself.


i compiledin to my 
kernel ages ago. all worked fine for months.


i guess i can live with this (got another machine with a etch and lenny 
distro) but i am very curious what can be the cause of this  and what i 
can do to repair thids should it somehow happen agaian.


in advance thanks for your help

regards,

steef


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Re: why sarge is so noisy

2007-09-15 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Sep 07, 2007 at 05:40:38PM +1000, Julian De Marchi wrote:
> Serena Cantor wrote:
>> Thanks! Could you give me a list of programs that start automatically? Do 
>> you mean that there's
>> nothing I can do about it?

Run top when the noise starts. Could be anacron kicking in. Does it
happen 5 minutes after starting your computer?

> 
>
> Silly question.

Silly answer, considering this list is _supposed_ to help people use
Debian. And a waste of bandwidth!

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amd64 vs i386

2007-09-15 Thread pietia

hi

Do you have any experiences in that competition: Debian amd64 vs Debian 
i386 ?


Is i386 still faster than amd64 ?

And what with missing packages like flash plugin ?


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Re: another script query (perl?)

2007-09-15 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Sep 07, 2007 at 03:04:50PM +0100, Richard Lyons wrote:
> Hi, all you script wizards.
> 
> I thought this would be easy, but I haven't found anything to crib
> from...
> 
> I need a script to read a text file (actually tex) and parse lines of a
> table that may or may not span newline characters in the file.
> Basically, there are lines of the form
> 
>{some text} & {some more text} & {text c} & {text d} \\


Wrong list, for this sort of question. This list is _supposed_ to be for
Debian specific usage questions.

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Italian hyphenation in open office

2007-09-15 Thread Lorenzo Bettini

Hi

I've installed this package

ii  openoffice.org-hyphenation-it1:2.3.0~src680m225-1 
Italian hyphenation patterns for OpenOffice.org


but the Italian hyphenation still does not work...
moreover, in Tools->Language Settings->Writing Aids, if I edit the 
"Hyphenator" then I see no sub-module for Hyphenation...


should I configure something else?

thanks in advance
Lorenzo

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network installation using local mirror for security updates

2007-09-15 Thread Malte Forkel

I recently installed Etch by booting a machine from the net using PXE and 
specifying a local mirror of ftp.debian.de to the installer. All went well but 
I noticed that during the installation security.debian.org was accessed for 
updates. As I also have a local mirror of that: How do I tell the installer to 
use a local mirror for security updates?

Thanks in advance, Malte


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Re: amd64 vs i386

2007-09-15 Thread Ron Johnson
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On 09/15/07 03:57, pietia wrote:
> hi
> 
> Do you have any experiences in that competition: Debian amd64 vs Debian
> i386 ?
> 
> Is i386 still faster than amd64 ?

Since when was i386 *ever* faster than AMD64?

> And what with missing packages like flash plugin ?

Certain closed-source apps & plugins are only built for i386.  There
are work-arounds for AMD64 systems running in 64-bit mode.  Google
to find many web pages that describe how.

There are certain open-source apps that code certain critical
functions in hand-tweaked 386 assembly if the build target is i386.
 I don't have any specifics off the top of my head.  Google should help.

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[OT] Get Smart (was Re: Sex spam again on the list)

2007-09-15 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Sep 09, 2007 at 05:57:15PM -0400, Hal Vaughan wrote:
> 
> Would you believe...
> 
> ...It's finally on DVD, but from only one source (I think Time-Life, but 
> for some reason, I think it's HBO that owns the rights now).  You can't 
> buy it retail or through discount sources, though.  (Sorry about that, 
> Chief!)  
> 
> I think they're supposed to make it available through retail and such 
> within the next 6 months.

Mmmm, have been seeing the ads for the last six months or so, and since
we (in good ole N.Z) seem to be the last to see anything.

So you must have missed the offer (no steak knives, just a second video
if you call in the next 10 minutes ... but thats not all, crap.)

You must have ... "missed it by that much".

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Re: fetchmail downloads, mutt does not display

2007-09-15 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Sep 04, 2007 at 09:00:58AM -0400, Thomas H. George wrote:
> I had this problem with an earlier version of exim4 and was advised to 
> change the line
>
>smtp_accept_queue_per_connection  = *
>
> to
>
>smtp_accept_queue_per_connection  = 0
>
> in the file /etc/exim4/exim4.conf.template.  There is no longer such a line 
> in exim4.conf.template.
>
> Is there a new solution to this problem?

Umm no, just use your editor as you have done in the past?
then run 'update-exim4.conf' as usual.

By the way, that line 'smtp_accept_queue_per_connection=0' was never to
my knowledge automatically included in the file
/etc/exim4/exim4.conf.template.

I suspect you have other problems.

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Re: How to bind keys to commands, through X11 or GDM

2007-09-15 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 08:32:55PM +0530, Masatran, R. Deepak wrote:
> 
> and "HOME/.xbindkeysrc" with contents:
> 
> "mpc toggle"
> XF86AudioPlay
> 
> "mpc stop"
> XF86AudioStop
> 
> "mpc prev"
> XF86AudioPrev
> 
> "mpc next"
> XF86AudioNext
> 
> This works, but not when the screen is locked. How can I get this setup to 
> work
> through the screen-saver? Thanks!

Thats a loaded question. If the screen is locked then should it still be
able to accept keystrokes? You almost had me, nice trick ... nice.

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Re: postgresql help

2007-09-15 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 08:36:59PM -0400, Tom Allison wrote:
> I'm at a road block...
>
> I was reinstalling my hard drives to put in a RAID1 array.
> The RAID/LVM stuff works 100%.
>
> But somewhere I screwed up my postgresql-8.2 database installation.
> I meant to set up the data directory on the RAID disk array
> Unfortunately I deleted the /var/lib/postgresql/ directory and can't or 
> don't know what to do to fix it.

You mean you have lost your data?

Have you a recent backup?

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Re: debian oriented laptot suggestions

2007-09-15 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 11:47:47AM +0200, Raffaele Morelli wrote:
>Hi you all,
>I am going to buy a laptop and install debian on it, so I would like to
>receive some feedback/suggestions from the list in this sense.
>thanx in advance

The 'debian-laptop' list is an excellent resource for this.

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Re: amd64 vs i386

2007-09-15 Thread Martin Marcher
Hello,

2007/9/15, pietia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> hi
>
> Do you have any experiences in that competition: Debian amd64 vs Debian
> i386 ?

yes :)

> Is i386 still faster than amd64 ?

the question isn't wether it's faster or not it's more like the need
of 64bit. You can easily go beyond 4GB of RAM (also possible with i386
but you need a kernel option for that which is afaik enabled anyway in
standard debian kernels)

> And what with missing packages like flash plugin ?

if you want a desktop PC stay with i386 since there isn't anything
available that makes flash work out of the box with amd64. It can
however be done (look at the various posts on this list which suggest
in essence a chroot and a full 32bit installation of
firefox/iceweasel)

Personally I don't care (for desktops) about 64 vs 32 bit. The reason
for that is that I disable flash anyway since it's useseless for me.
For servers I keep with 64bit if (and only if) I expect to need more
than 4GB of RAM (which is the usual use case). If I have to decide
actively wether I use 32 or 64 bit on a desktop with linux i choose
32bit because most of the software will "just work". On the other hand
of course if you don't mind some plumbing the "64 bit marketing lie"
(faster) won't be much of trouble for you.

Just my experience...


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Re: amd64 vs i386

2007-09-15 Thread Martin Marcher
2007/9/15, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
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> On 09/15/07 03:57, pietia wrote:
> > hi
> >
> > Do you have any experiences in that competition: Debian amd64 vs Debian
> > i386 ?
> >
> > Is i386 still faster than amd64 ?
>
> Since when was i386 *ever* faster than AMD64?

since when was 64bit *ever* faster than 32bit? (speaking of speed here
not the actual pro of having more address space)


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I Hate the Debian Mailing List!!!!

2007-09-15 Thread Jason Zaphyr
I can't get one single email to come through, so I might get help.  I have 
been trying for days now.  There is no reason for this, I am not spamming or 
anything, and really need help with my network card setup, since version 
40r1 will NOT setup dhcp, or allow me to manually configure it, since 
something is not running, or completely trashed in this release.  Any ideas 
on how to fix this version, or what other version to grab, before I say to 
hell with it, and go back to Slackware or Gentoo ???


Thanks for any help if this finally gets through, although I doubt it!

- Original Message - 
From: "Barry Samuels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Debian" 
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 9:53 AM
Subject: I hate Alsa


Debian Testing up to date as of yesterday.
Kernel 2.6.22
Sound from on-board Intel (snd_hda_intel)
Kmix as the mixer

When I used OSS I had no audio problems at all - everything (playback
and recording) just worked but since I went over to Alsa (about a year
ago) I've had trouble getting recording to work.

Normally I find that playback gives no problems and I did for a short
period get playback and recording working properly then after a Debian
upgrade the recording stopped working properly again.

If I try to record (arecord) using a microphone I cannot move the
recording volume slider above 70% otherwise I start getting extremely
distorted sound on playback (aplay) and although the recording volume
is adequate there is a loud background hum. If I reduce the recording
volume to about 60% the loud hum changes to a noticeable hiss but the
recorded voice is too low.

I have to use the 'Digital' slider on the Kmix input tab to control
microphone volume - none of the other sliders seem to do anything. I
also have to have the first capture slider on (un-muted) to get any
sound at all but it makes no difference whether that slider is at the
bottom or not - it does not affect the volume.

I also have a record deck with a USB connection which I last used under
OSS. The setup was working then and, as I remember, it was pretty
straightforward to set up. Since that time there have been many
Debian updates and I'm almost certainly using a later kernel and I'm
now using Alsa.

When I came to use it this time in conjunction with Audacity, which I
was using last time, I can't get a peep out of it.

I have tried various inputs without success. The appropriate modules
are loaded including snd_usb_audio.

When the USB lead is plugged in I get this in the logs:

kernel: usb 1-7.1: new full speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address
6
kernel: usb 1-7.1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
kernel: input: Burr-Brown from TI
USB Audio CODEC  as /class/input/input4
kernel: input: USB HID v1.00 Device [Burr-Brown from TI
USB Audio CODEC ] on usb-:00:1d.7-7.1
kernel: usbcore: registered new interface driver snd-usb-audio

a little further on in the log I see:

kernel: cannot submit datapipe for urb 0, error -28: not enough
bandwidth

Originally I got this in the log:

kernel: cannot submit datapipe for urb 0, error -38: enable
CONFIG_USB_EHCI_SPLIT_ISO to play through a hub

so I enabled that in the kernel and recompiled although I'm not using a
USB hub and then got the 'not enough bandwidth' error.

As you may have gathered I'm beginning to take a dislike to Alsa.

Can anyone suggest some fault tracing procedures please?

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Re: postgresql help

2007-09-15 Thread Martin Marcher
Hi,

2007/9/15, Chris Bannister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 08:36:59PM -0400, Tom Allison wrote:
> > But somewhere I screwed up my postgresql-8.2 database installation.
> > I meant to set up the data directory on the RAID disk array
> > Unfortunately I deleted the /var/lib/postgresql/ directory and can't or
> > don't know what to do to fix it.
>
> You mean you have lost your data?

If you are just talking about creating an empty cluster in a new location

The debian wrappers for this are described in:

pg_createcluster,
pg_ctlcluster,
pg_dropcluster,
pg_lsclusters,
pg_maintenance

if i remember correctly. If you want to stay with postgres builtin
methods have a read at:

http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.2/static/creating-cluster.html

> Have you a recent backup?

if you really lost your data by accidentally having deleted the files
a recent backup is your only chance of getting back to where you were

hth
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Is SATA2 compatible with Debian Etch?

2007-09-15 Thread Pál Csányi
Hello!

I have two SATA2 drives:
WD 320GB 7200rpm 16MB 3.0Gb/s 8.9ms SATAII RE Caviar

I use these with software RAID1 on Debian Etch system.

My system randomly freeze so I can only to reset the system.
Maybe this problem has not something to do with SATA2 drives..

I use linux-image-2.6.18-5-686 .

Is my system fully compatible with SATA2?

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Re: Midnight Commander / Etch

2007-09-15 Thread Debian

Hi
even after upgrading I had the same error, I discovered that something 
was wrong in /home/user/.mc , in fact I have copied them from a previous 
backup, I have deleted everything and MC works again

Thanks for your help
Raymond

Pál Csányi a écrit :

2007/9/15, Debian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
  

Hi everybody,
I just reinstalled a box from netinst
I am experiencing a segmentation fault with MC when using Copy or Move
MC version: 4.6.1
Etch kernel: 2.6.18-4-486



I use MC version: 1:4.6.1-6 and the debian linux-image-2.6.18-5-686.
I can use MC without any errors.

Maybe you should to do: aptitude update
and then aptitude upgrade?

  



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Re: amd64 vs i386

2007-09-15 Thread Magnus Therning
On Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 04:27:10 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
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>On 09/15/07 03:57, pietia wrote:
>> hi
>> 
>> Do you have any experiences in that competition: Debian amd64 vs Debian
>> i386 ?
>> 
>> Is i386 still faster than amd64 ?
>
>Since when was i386 *ever* faster than AMD64?
>
>> And what with missing packages like flash plugin ?
>
>Certain closed-source apps & plugins are only built for i386.  There
>are work-arounds for AMD64 systems running in 64-bit mode.  Google to
>find many web pages that describe how.
>
>There are certain open-source apps that code certain critical functions
>in hand-tweaked 386 assembly if the build target is i386.  I don't have
>any specifics off the top of my head.  Google should help.

So far, the only thing that I'm missing from Debian Sid AMD64 is a Sun
Java browser plugin.  Apparently there's no 64-bit version of it,
despite the source now being available, and AFAIK there's no wrapper
package in the repos.

The non-free flashplugin has been sorted out with a wrapper for several
weeks (months?) now.

/M

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Re: I Hate the Debian Mailing List!!!!

2007-09-15 Thread steef

Jason Zaphyr wrote:
I can't get one single email to come through, so I might get help.  I 
have been trying for days now.  There is no reason for this, I am not 
spamming or anything, and really need help with my network card setup, 
since version 40r1 will NOT setup dhcp, or allow me to manually 
configure it, since something is not running, or completely trashed in 
this release.  Any ideas on how to fix this version, or what other 
version to grab, before I say to hell with it, and go back to 
Slackware or Gentoo ???


Thanks for any help if this finally gets through, although I doubt it!

- Original Message - From: "Barry Samuels" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Debian" 
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 9:53 AM
Subject: I hate Alsa


Debian Testing up to date as of yesterday.
Kernel 2.6.22
Sound from on-board Intel (snd_hda_intel)
Kmix as the mixer

When I used OSS I had no audio problems at all - everything (playback
and recording) just worked but since I went over to Alsa (about a year
ago) I've had trouble getting recording to work.

Normally I find that playback gives no problems and I did for a short
period get playback and recording working properly then after a Debian
upgrade the recording stopped working properly again.

If I try to record (arecord) using a microphone I cannot move the
recording volume slider above 70% otherwise I start getting extremely
distorted sound on playback (aplay) and although the recording volume
is adequate there is a loud background hum. If I reduce the recording
volume to about 60% the loud hum changes to a noticeable hiss but the
recorded voice is too low.

I have to use the 'Digital' slider on the Kmix input tab to control
microphone volume - none of the other sliders seem to do anything. I
also have to have the first capture slider on (un-muted) to get any
sound at all but it makes no difference whether that slider is at the
bottom or not - it does not affect the volume.

I also have a record deck with a USB connection which I last used under
OSS. The setup was working then and, as I remember, it was pretty
straightforward to set up. Since that time there have been many
Debian updates and I'm almost certainly using a later kernel and I'm
now using Alsa.

When I came to use it this time in conjunction with Audacity, which I
was using last time, I can't get a peep out of it.

I have tried various inputs without success. The appropriate modules
are loaded including snd_usb_audio.

When the USB lead is plugged in I get this in the logs:

kernel: usb 1-7.1: new full speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address
6
kernel: usb 1-7.1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
kernel: input: Burr-Brown from TI
USB Audio CODEC  as /class/input/input4
kernel: input: USB HID v1.00 Device [Burr-Brown from TI
USB Audio CODEC ] on usb-:00:1d.7-7.1
kernel: usbcore: registered new interface driver snd-usb-audio

a little further on in the log I see:

kernel: cannot submit datapipe for urb 0, error -28: not enough
bandwidth

Originally I got this in the log:

kernel: cannot submit datapipe for urb 0, error -38: enable
CONFIG_USB_EHCI_SPLIT_ISO to play through a hub

so I enabled that in the kernel and recompiled although I'm not using a
USB hub and then got the 'not enough bandwidth' error.

As you may have gathered I'm beginning to take a dislike to Alsa.

Can anyone suggest some fault tracing procedures please?


..m, well this did come thru.

steef


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Re: amd64 vs i386

2007-09-15 Thread Magnus Therning
On Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 13:02:13 +0200, Martin Marcher wrote:
[..]
>if you want a desktop PC stay with i386 since there isn't anything
>available that makes flash work out of the box with amd64. It can
>however be done (look at the various posts on this list which suggest
>in essence a chroot and a full 32bit installation of firefox/iceweasel)

That's not true for Sid any longer.  The non-free flashplugin comes
"wired" with nspluginwrapper and it all works out of the box.

/M

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Re: Accessing software programs from disk

2007-09-15 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 04:16:37PM -0500, violet penny wrote:
>I do hope I'm sending this to the right place. I find everything so
>confusing and difficult, here.
>On the subject of which:  I can't find anything, anywhere, that tells
>me what's on these 20 additional CDs I've taken hours to download and
>burn [I'm not on-line with the computer I'm using to try out Etch].
>They all look about the same, when I put the CD in and it opens on my
>desktop, and the only things inside the file folders are more file
>folders, denoted with letters of the alphabet, which lead to files with

[snip]

If there was a LUG (Linux User Group) in your area, search on Google, or
ask here, then I'd suggest going along to a meeting (normally informal
affairs over a few beers). I am sure you will get more help than you
could hope for.

Don't remove Linux just yet. :-)

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Re: MSI nVidia NX7600GT-T2D256E

2007-09-15 Thread Pál Csányi
2007/9/9, Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> It may seem drastic, but since you've tried everything else, I would
> purge all the X stuff and then reinstall.  Make sure that you keep a
> copy of the X config stuff for reference but get it out of /etc so that
> it doesn't get reused.

I did so.

Now I use "nvidia" driver again and can to login to X Window.

I can to use X Window, but unfortunetly it freeze randomly.

Maybe the problem is that that I use Intel Core 2 Duo CPU, because I red here:
http://www.nvidia.com/object/support_known_issues.html
->
http://www.nvidia.com/docs/IO/37395/93.71_open.pdf

an open issue.

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Re: I hate Alsa

2007-09-15 Thread Wackojacko

Jude DaShiell wrote:
This may be important, are you running with etch or one of the other 
distributions?  I run unstable myself but have had no need to try 
recording with alsa so can't verify or refute your experiences in this 
instance.




On Thu, 13 Sep 2007, Barry Samuels wrote:


Debian Testing up to date as of yesterday.
Kernel 2.6.22
Sound from on-board Intel (snd_hda_intel)
Kmix as the mixer

When I used OSS I had no audio problems at all - everything (playback
and recording) just worked but since I went over to Alsa (about a year
ago) I've had trouble getting recording to work.

Normally I find that playback gives no problems and I did for a short
period get playback and recording working properly then after a Debian
upgrade the recording stopped working properly again.

If I try to record (arecord) using a microphone I cannot move the
recording volume slider above 70% otherwise I start getting extremely
distorted sound on playback (aplay) and although the recording volume
is adequate there is a loud background hum. If I reduce the recording
volume to about 60% the loud hum changes to a noticeable hiss but the
recorded voice is too low.


I had a similar problem using audacity with alsa and google suggested 
wrapping the offending program with 'aoss' from the alsa-oss package. 
i.e. run 'aoss arecord'




I have to use the 'Digital' slider on the Kmix input tab to control
microphone volume - none of the other sliders seem to do anything. I
also have to have the first capture slider on (un-muted) to get any
sound at all but it makes no difference whether that slider is at the
bottom or not - it does not affect the volume.

I also have a record deck with a USB connection which I last used under
OSS. The setup was working then and, as I remember, it was pretty
straightforward to set up. Since that time there have been many
Debian updates and I'm almost certainly using a later kernel and I'm
now using Alsa.

When I came to use it this time in conjunction with Audacity, which I
was using last time, I can't get a peep out of it.



I have this problem also now.  Audacity will not record anything!  No 
solution here though :)



I have tried various inputs without success. The appropriate modules
are loaded including snd_usb_audio.

When the USB lead is plugged in I get this in the logs:

kernel: usb 1-7.1: new full speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address
6
kernel: usb 1-7.1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
kernel: input: Burr-Brown from TI
USB Audio CODEC  as /class/input/input4
kernel: input: USB HID v1.00 Device [Burr-Brown from TI
USB Audio CODEC ] on usb-:00:1d.7-7.1
kernel: usbcore: registered new interface driver snd-usb-audio

a little further on in the log I see:

kernel: cannot submit datapipe for urb 0, error -28: not enough
bandwidth

Originally I got this in the log:

kernel: cannot submit datapipe for urb 0, error -38: enable
CONFIG_USB_EHCI_SPLIT_ISO to play through a hub

so I enabled that in the kernel and recompiled although I'm not using a
USB hub and then got the 'not enough bandwidth' error.

As you may have gathered I'm beginning to take a dislike to Alsa.

Can anyone suggest some fault tracing procedures please?

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Re: amd64 vs i386

2007-09-15 Thread Ron Johnson
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> 2007/9/15, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
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>> On 09/15/07 03:57, pietia wrote:
>>> hi
>>>
>>> Do you have any experiences in that competition: Debian amd64 vs Debian
>>> i386 ?
>>>
>>> Is i386 still faster than amd64 ?
>> Since when was i386 *ever* faster than AMD64?
> 
> since when was 64bit *ever* faster than 32bit? (speaking of speed here
> not the actual pro of having more address space)

That's not what I asked, and is not what OP asked.

Anyway, the extra 8 registers that long mode offers definitely lets
the compiler create more efficient code.  How that contrasts against
larger pointers reducing cache efficiency and bandwidth
effectiveness is app specific.

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Re: Can't execute PHP script

2007-09-15 Thread Randy Patterson
On Friday 14 September 2007 11:43, Hans Hofker wrote:
> Randy Patterson wrote:
> > I installed apache like;
> >
> > aptitude install apache2 php5 libapache2-mod-php5
> >
> > As returned by apache2ctl, I am running;
> >
> > Apache/2.2.4 (Debian) PHP/5.2.3-1+b1
>
> The description for libapache2-mod-php5 states that it only works with
> the "prefork" version of apache2 (package "apache2-mpm-prefork").
> Perhaps you chose an other version, like "apache2-mpm-itk" ?

I ran;

aptitude show apache2-mpm-prefork 

and it returned that this package was install but the apache2-mpm-itk was not.

Thanks,
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Re: I Hate the Debian Mailing List!!!!

2007-09-15 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi


Jason Zaphyr wrote:

> I can't get one single email to come through, so I might get help.  I have
> been trying for days now.  There is no reason for this, I am not spamming
> or anything, and really need help with my network card setup, since
> version 40r1 will NOT setup dhcp, or allow me to manually configure it,
> since
> something is not running, or completely trashed in this release.  Any
> ideas on how to fix this version, or what other version to grab, before I
> say to hell with it, and go back to Slackware or Gentoo ???
> 
> Thanks for any help if this finally gets through, although I doubt it!
> 

Are you having trouble with just debian-user or does the problem exist with
all the debian mailing lists such as debian-devel etc.,? Are you getting
any error messages in your log files?

You can also whitelist ( http://lists.debian.org/whitelist/ ) your email
address which essentially tells the mailing list software that you are not
a spammer.

You can also try the debian irc channel for support if you are having
trouble with the mailing list.

hth
raju

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Re: Is SATA2 compatible with Debian Etch?

2007-09-15 Thread Ron Johnson
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On 09/15/07 06:10, Pál Csányi wrote:
> Hello!
> 
> I have two SATA2 drives:
> WD 320GB 7200rpm 16MB 3.0Gb/s 8.9ms SATAII RE Caviar
> 
> I use these with software RAID1 on Debian Etch system.
> 
> My system randomly freeze so I can only to reset the system.

Anything relevant in syslog?

> Maybe this problem has not something to do with SATA2 drives..

Maybe you've got bad RAM or flaky CPU or mobo or PS.  Maybe
something isn't seated properly in it's socket.

Or maybe the CIA mind control rays are inadvertently aimed at your P
instead of your skull.

Why do you suspect the drives?

> I use linux-image-2.6.18-5-686 .

That's a relatively old kernel.

> Is my system fully compatible with SATA2?

What did your Google research discover?

Anyway, your kernel really only cares about the chipset (or PCI)
SATA controller.

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Re: Can't execute PHP script

2007-09-15 Thread Randy Patterson
On Friday 14 September 2007 11:29, David A. Parker wrote:
> Randy Patterson wrote:
> > I ran 'chmod 755 test.php' on the file in question. Loaded this file with
> > browser and got the very same results. Checked /var/log/apache2/error.log
> > and no error. Checked /var/log/apache2/access.log and I had accessed the
> > file.
> >
> > I have been to debian-administration.org and read up on the topic, I have
> > looked over apache2.conf to see if there was something I could change but
> > I am at the end of my rope. I even did the Windoz thing and uninstalled
> > apache2 and php, purge it and reinstalled, same results. Guess I'll have
> > to stick with PHP on IIS as a test system. I haven't ever had problems
> > with PHP running on it.
> >
> > Thanks
>
> You could also try compiling Apache and PHP from source instead of
> installing from the Debian package.

I guess that is my only other option. I'm somewhat new to Linux and haven't 
started compiling my own packages yet. That's something I need to learn how 
to do anyway so I guess I'll try that. I would have hoped I could have gotten 
the system to work by just installing the compiled packages.  I sort of hate 
compile my own package and still end up with the same results.

Thanks,
Randy


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Re: I hate Alsa [Solved]

2007-09-15 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
Barry Samuels wrote:

> Further to my previous posting I have, at last, got sound recording
> from a microphone working properly again.
> 
> I don't, however, dislike Alsa any less because I don't know exactly
> what I did to put it right.
> 
> I had already run alsaconf twice before posting but tried it again for
> a third time. There was no indication of any change. I then ran
> alsamixergui and tried altering the levels of some of the controls.
> There are 25 sliders on alsamixergui which gives a very large number of
> combinations.

I recently came to know that alsaconf is outdated in 2.6 kernels. You have
to use udevtrigger instead of alsaconf. See #430624, #432678 for more info.

hth
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Re: Re exim4, postfix problems - Thanks

2007-09-15 Thread Thomas H. George
.
.
.
> > 
> > I created this file but in /etc/postfix/sasl/ as somewhere there is a
> > note that this is the Debian way. 
> 
> Any reference please? (I'm keen on having everything The Debian Way)
>
/usr/share/doc/postfix/README.Debian

Actually, /etc/postfix/sasl was already a directory.
.
.
.
> http://newbiedoc.berlios.de/wiki/Mail_-_sending If you have the spare 
> time you could check that to see if everything is ok (especially as 
> English is not my first language).
> 
For some reason the connection to newbiedoc.berlios.de timed out.  I'll
try again later.

Best regards,

Tom



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DVD-RW data disk, growisofs, multisession

2007-09-15 Thread Hugh Lawson

Given: a dvd-rw disk, containing data, formatted with sequential formatting

Issue:  growisofs -M  doesn't work.

But: If I format the dvd-rw disk as restricted-overwrite, then
growisofs -M works as expected.

Question: Is this normal?

I can't find any documentation on this issue.

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[Fwd: segmentation_fault]

2007-09-15 Thread steef



hi

i was interrupted here so i sent you an incomplete message. i am sorry 
for that. my question is academical. i used gdb to get a dumpstack and i 
replaced my system. rather stupid to ask you for ehelp under these 
circumstances: in this particular situation.



regards,

steef



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Subject:segmentation_fault
Resent-Date:Sat, 15 Sep 2007 08:50:48 + (UTC)
Resent-From:debian-user@lists.debian.org
Date:   Fri, 14 Sep 2007 22:38:52 +0200
From:   steef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Organization:   zeta
To: debian 



greetings to you all,

i am using etch, kernel 2.6.18-5-486. it worked fine till xine (compiled 
from their site) without any warning started crashing the xserver and 
mplayer (compiled from 'their' site too) refused to start up with the 
message 'segmentation fault'. i repeated this several times for both, 
xine and mplayer, with the same results. in my opinion i did nothing 
peculiar to have caused this myself.


i compiledin to my 
kernel ages ago. all worked fine for months.


i guess i can live with this (got another machine with a etch and lenny 
distro) but i am very curious what can be the cause of this  and what i 
can do to repair thids should it somehow happen agaian.


in advance thanks for your help

regards,

steef


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Re: mail messages with only html

2007-09-15 Thread Richard Lyons
On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 10:42:00PM -0500, Jude DaShiell wrote:

> If there's another plumbing facility like lynx that can move parts into 
> message bodies that could be attached to the lynx pipe so the message 
> first goes through the part shifter and then goes through lynx.

Jude thanks for your various useful comments.  I do not have procmail
running at the moment, so this will have to wait till I have time to
check I don't break something, but I have saved your code snippet etc.

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Re: mail messages with only html

2007-09-15 Thread Richard Lyons
On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 02:18:08PM -0700, John L Fjellstad wrote:

> Richard Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> >> I fail to see why you couldn't write a filter (using maildrop or
> >> procmail) to pipe the message through w3m -dump (or links -dump) before
> >> storing the message.
> >
> > Thanks John.  That seems to be the definitively best way to go.  I just
> > have to work out how to reliably identify or flag the offending messages for
> > treatment.
> 
> All html mail should have content type set to text/html
> 
> >> Also, IMAP won't care if you change the message. You just upload the
> >> message as a new message. I do it all the time with I add labels etc.
> >
> > It will be better if I leave the headers alone, so that threading
> > doesn't get broken.
> 
> Well, I was talking about created a brand new message.  When I add
> labels etc, I add header lines, but the message itself is like the
> original.  But as far as IMAP is concerned, I deleted the old message
> and uploaded a new message.  As long the In-Reply-To header is still
> there, the threading shouldn't be broken

Ok, I suppose that is obvious, but I have never tinkered with mail
before.  Thanks for the help.

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Re: network installation using local mirror for security updates

2007-09-15 Thread bUg.

for example


deb file:///home/debian/security lenny/updates main contrib non-free


Malte Forkel пишет:

I recently installed Etch by booting a machine from the net using PXE 
and specifying a local mirror of ftp.debian.de to the installer. All 
went well but I noticed that during the installation 
security.debian.org was accessed for updates. As I also have a local 
mirror of that: How do I tell the installer to use a local mirror for 
security updates?


Thanks in advance, Malte





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Re: network installation using local mirror for security updates

2007-09-15 Thread Malte Forkel

bUg. wrote:

for example


deb file:///home/debian/security lenny/updates main contrib non-free


Malte Forkel пишет:

I recently installed Etch by booting a machine from the net using PXE 
and specifying a local mirror of ftp.debian.de to the installer. All 
went well but I noticed that during the installation 
security.debian.org was accessed for updates. As I also have a local 
mirror of that: How do I tell the installer to use a local mirror for 
security updates?


Thanks in advance, Malte







I assume /etc/apt/sources.list is created during the installation. It pointed 
to the local mirror which I entered when asked for the package server and 
additionally to http://security.debian.org. I had to change the latter entry 
after the installation to point to my mirror. But during the installation, the 
slow remote server was used.

What I'd like to know is how to not only tell the installer where to get the 
regular packages from but also where to get the security updates from.


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Re: html email

2007-09-15 Thread Richard Lyons
On Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 12:01:21AM -0500, Jude DaShiell wrote:

> Nobody quote me on this, but I think I found the tool to strip out mime 
> attachments and decode them.  If I'm right, piping messages through 
> uudeview -f -c before piping them through lynx using that procmail stuff 
> may solve this problem. I'll know by tomorrow since I have a few lists 
> that send stuff this way.

Just downloaded uudeview to read the man page.  -f and -c both sound
like like risky options...

Awaiting your results with bated breath...

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Re: another script query (perl?) -- OT

2007-09-15 Thread Richard Lyons
On Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 09:22:45PM +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:

> On Fri, Sep 07, 2007 at 03:04:50PM +0100, Richard Lyons wrote:
> > Hi, all you script wizards.
> > 
> > I thought this would be easy, but I haven't found anything to crib
> > from...
> > 
> > I need a script to read a text file (actually tex) and parse lines of a
> > table that may or may not span newline characters in the file.
> > Basically, there are lines of the form
> > 
> >{some text} & {some more text} & {text c} & {text d} \\
> 
> 
> Wrong list, for this sort of question. This list is _supposed_ to be for
> Debian specific usage questions.

Yes, but these guys are _good_.  Problem was solved about a week back
thanks to them.  Have a nice day!

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Re: Italian hyphenation in open office

2007-09-15 Thread Kent West

Lorenzo Bettini wrote:

Hi

I've installed this package

ii  openoffice.org-hyphenation-it1:2.3.0~src680m225-1 Italian 
hyphenation patterns for OpenOffice.org


but the Italian hyphenation still does not work...
moreover, in Tools->Language Settings->Writing Aids, if I edit the 
"Hyphenator" then I see no sub-module for Hyphenation...


should I configure something else?


I had trouble getting English hyphenation working some months back, 
until I installed the module from within OO.o, rather than trying to 
install it from the normal Debian package management systems (apt, 
aptitude, dselect, etc).


Fire up OO.o, then click on File/Wizards/Install Dictionaries and follow 
the prompts.


Let us know if this works.

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Re: I hate Alsa [Solved]

2007-09-15 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 the mental interface of
Kamaraju S Kusumanchi told:

[...]
> I recently came to know that alsaconf is outdated in 2.6 kernels. You have
> to use udevtrigger instead of alsaconf. See #430624, #432678 for more info.

alsaconf will be fixed for PnP cards in 1.0.14-2 upload.

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Re: websites incompatible with iceweasel

2007-09-15 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 13:05:50 -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 07:21:19PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 09:31:07 -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> > > On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 11:41:38AM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 01:40:56 -0700, Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote:
> > > > > When I go to www.citicards.com using iceweasel 2.0.0.6 Debian Etch, I
> > > > > just get a blank page. I get the same result even with -safe-mode
> > > > > option. Is this a bug in iceweasel?
> > > > 
> > > > I can access this site with icewesasel 2.0.0.6-1 (on Sid/amd64) with
> > > > javascript turned off. I get redirected immediately to
> > > 
> > > and that is the key, turning off java script. Otherwise you can watch
> > > it load the page and then blank the frame out.
> > 
> > I can still use the site even if I turn on javascript and disable
> > AdBlock. Maybe they serve slightly different versions of their pages
> > based on location. 
> 
> Adblock. Bingo. Are you using Filterset.G? There are two  regex's in
> FIlterset.G that hit on this site:
> 
> /[^\w=+]promo(\w*\.js|banner|box)(?!(\.js)?\?)(\W|_|$)/
> 
> and
> 
> /\Woverlay\.js/
> 
> I'm not going to bother, since I don't use citibank, to turn them off,
> but that's got to be it. 

I can access the page normally with AdBlock disabled and when bypassing
my local filtering proxy (privoxy). It seems that the "white-out"
behavior is in some way connected to the Flash ad in the page. The site
breaks for me as soon as I disable the FlashBlock add-on, even with
AdBlock and privoxy re-activated. However, when I use FlashBlock I can
activate the ad after the page has loaded without any detrimental effect
(other than having to look at their advertisement drivel).

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Re: Linux Printer Sharing

2007-09-15 Thread steve

Ron Johnson wrote:

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On 09/14/07 20:59, steve wrote:
  

ArcticFox wrote:


I have an HP printer that I would like to share to my other two
computers. One's a Mac and the other's Windows. The printer will be
connected to the server through USB, I can get the server to print to
the printer, but I can't get the other two computers to find it.

Please help, I've no idea what else to do!


  

cant help with the windows side, but the mac should have cups already



SAMBA

  
ok, if using samba, then install swat, then open web config with 
localhost:901.  you can configure samba share printers from there.



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Scroll wheels not working after upgrade to etch/xorg

2007-09-15 Thread Pigeon
On doing a dist-upgrade which pulled in xorg I found my scroll wheels were
no longer working. Either they did nothing at all or they simulated the press
of some unknown key on the keyboard and activated all manner of keyboard
shortcuts that I didn't know existed.

The scroll wheels were still generating events, but not the right ones 
any more.

Google merely turned up a few other baffled people with a similar problem.

The solution turned out to be to include

Option "Emulate3Buttons" "off"

in xorg.conf.

The existing xorg.conf simply had the Emulate3Buttons line commented out,
and it seems from the log file that xorg was defaulting to enabling
Emulate3Buttons. Explicitly disabling Emulate3Buttons got my scroll wheels
working again.

I hope someone somewhere finds this useful.

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Re: Scroll wheels not working after upgrade to etch/xorg

2007-09-15 Thread Christian Leng
simply doing "#dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" may work well--of coz,
make a backup of your xorg.conf first.

2007/9/15, Pigeon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On doing a dist-upgrade which pulled in xorg I found my scroll wheels were
> no longer working. Either they did nothing at all or they simulated the press
> of some unknown key on the keyboard and activated all manner of keyboard
> shortcuts that I didn't know existed.
>
> The scroll wheels were still generating events, but not the right ones
> any more.
>
> Google merely turned up a few other baffled people with a similar problem.
>
> The solution turned out to be to include
>
> Option "Emulate3Buttons" "off"
>
> in xorg.conf.
>
> The existing xorg.conf simply had the Emulate3Buttons line commented out,
> and it seems from the log file that xorg was defaulting to enabling
> Emulate3Buttons. Explicitly disabling Emulate3Buttons got my scroll wheels
> working again.
>
> I hope someone somewhere finds this useful.
>
> --
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>
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Re: SA-learn on remote host

2007-09-15 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 09:23:16PM +0100, John K Masters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
was heard to say:
> I am gradually implementing a mail system where I have a mail-server on
> host1 running Postfix/Courier/Procmail/spamc which passes all except
> whitelisted mail to spamd on another server - host2. host2 simply runs
> the mail through SA and passes it back to host1 from which I read on my
> local box via Mutt. 
> 
> Most spam gets filtered into the .Spam folder and I have bound keys in
> Mutt to move missed spam to this folder and to copy good messages to a
> .Ham folder.
> 
> What I would like to do now is have a cronjob run the contents of these
> two folders through SA-learn and then delete them. ATM I am stumped as
> to how to go about this. Any pointers very welcome.

  I use IMAP to synchronize my mail across systems (sounds like you do
too?), and just run the attached script over folders holding spam and
ham to learn.  (warning: it's quick and dirty, won't work for anyone
else without tweaks!)

  Daniel
#!/usr/bin/python
#
#  Process spam in the maildir ~/Mail/spam-to-learn and ham in the
#  maildir ~/Mail/ham-to-learn, clearing both maildirs as we work.
#  This is meant to be run as a cronjob and will lock other instances
#  of itself out.  Note: the locking mechanism assumes that flock()
#  behaves sanely; you may not want to use this if you have a
#  networked $HOME.  (it has the benefit that the lock is
#  automatically dropped if the process dies unexpectedly)

import fcntl
import os
import sys

home = os.environ['HOME']
lockfile = '%s/.learnspam-lock' % home

f = file(lockfile, 'w')

try:
fcntl.flock(f.fileno(), fcntl.LOCK_EX | fcntl.LOCK_NB)
except IOError:
print 'learnspamjob already running'
sys.exit(0)

quiet = not os.isatty(1)



def dolistdir(dirname):
return ['%s/%s'%(dirname, x) for x in os.listdir(dirname)]

# Process and delete each message in the maildir with the given
# command template.
def process_maildir(dname, cmd):
files = dolistdir('%s/cur'%dname) + dolistdir('%s/new'%dname)

for f in files:
rval = os.system(cmd % f)

if not os.WIFEXITED(rval):
if os.WIFSIGNALED(rval):
msg = '"%s" terminated with signal %d' % (cmd % f, 
os.WTERMSIG(rval))
elif os.WIFSTOPPED(rval):
msg = '"%s" unexpectedly stopped' % (cmd % f)
elif os.WIFCONTINUED(rval):
msg = '"%s" unexpectedly continued' % (cmd % f)

if os.WCOREDUMP(rval):
msg += ' (core dumped)'

sys.stderr.write('ERROR processing %s: %s\n'%(f, msg))
elif os.WEXITSTATUS(rval) <> 0:
sys.stderr.write('ERROR processing %s: "%s" exited with status 
%d'%(f, cmd % f, os.WEXITSTATUS(rval)))
else:
try:
os.unlink(f)
except OSError, e:
sys.stderr.write('Unable to unlink %s: %s\n'%(f, e.strerror))


process_maildir('%s/Mail/spam-to-learn' % home, 'spamassassin -r %s > 
/dev/null')
process_maildir('%s/Mail/ham-to-learn' % home, 'sa-learn --ham %s > /dev/null')


Re: UPDATE: Always falling to grub prompt (now I don't even have prompt)

2007-09-15 Thread Victor Munoz
On Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 10:39:35AM +0200, Hans Hofker wrote:
> >  
> I think the 'root' command should specify the partition where the boot 
> directory is located, so it should be (hd1,0) rather than (hd1,1).
> Furthermore, the kernels are not located on the hdd2-partition, so they 
> are not in (hd1,1)/boot/, but they are in (hd1,0)/
> So you could try to change your entries in menu.lst to:
> 
> root (hd1,0)
> kernel (hd1,0)/vmlinuz- root=/dev/hdd2 ro
> initrd (hd1,0)/initrd.img-
> 
> or, omitting the device-specification in the 'kernel' and 'initrd' 
> command (since the device is equal to the root device):
> 
> root (hd1,0)
> kernel /vmlinuz- root=/dev/hdd2 ro
> initrd /initrd.img-
> 

Thanks, but it didn't work either. I had tried before, anyway. I could
reinstall Debian, after all I have a backup of /home, but I
feel it's only a little detail somewhere that's missing, and I'd
prefer not to do that.

Victor


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Re: Kernel upgrade question

2007-09-15 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 22:48:42 -0700, Bill Moseley wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 08:03:25PM -0700, Bill Moseley wrote:
> > I've got one machine running Debian Sid that has not be upgraded in a
> > month or so.  It's running a custom kernel I built who-knows-when
> > (2.6.6).  Frankly, I can't remember the reason for the custom kernel.
> 
> So am I wedged?
> 
> $ sudo apt-get -f install
> Preparing to replace libc6 2.5-9+b1 (using .../libc6_2.6.1-4_i386.deb) ...
> 
> WARNING: POSIX threads library NPTL requires kernel version
> 2.6.8 or later. If you use a kernel 2.4, please upgrade it
> before installing glibc.
> 
> Ok, so try and install a new Kernel:
> 
> $ sudo apt-get install linux-image-k7 
> Reading package lists... Done
> Building dependency tree... Done
> You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:
> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
>   kernel-patch-xfs: Depends: grep-dctrl
>   libc6-dev: Depends: libc6 (= 2.6.1-4) but 2.5-9+b1 is to be installed
>   linux-image-k7: Depends: linux-image-2.6-k7 but it is not going to be 
> installed
>   locales: Depends: glibc-2.6-1
> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify 
> a solution).

You could try something like this:

- boot a Debian(-based) live/rescue CD with a new enough kernel
- chroot into your normal installation
- update libc6 et al.
- install the new kernel image
- verify that grub knows about the new kernel
- reboot your system with the new kernel image

I think this should work, but I never tried anything like that myself,
therefore I cannot guarantee anything.

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Re: SA-learn on remote host

2007-09-15 Thread John K Masters
On 08:22 Sat 15 Sep , Daniel Burrows wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 09:23:16PM +0100, John K Masters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> was heard to say:
> > I am gradually implementing a mail system where I have a mail-server on
> > host1 running Postfix/Courier/Procmail/spamc which passes all except
> > whitelisted mail to spamd on another server - host2. host2 simply runs
> > the mail through SA and passes it back to host1 from which I read on my
> > local box via Mutt. 
> > 
> > Most spam gets filtered into the .Spam folder and I have bound keys in
> > Mutt to move missed spam to this folder and to copy good messages to a
> > .Ham folder.
> > 
> > What I would like to do now is have a cronjob run the contents of these
> > two folders through SA-learn and then delete them. ATM I am stumped as
> > to how to go about this. Any pointers very welcome.
> 
>   I use IMAP to synchronize my mail across systems (sounds like you do
> too?), and just run the attached script over folders holding spam and
> ham to learn.  (warning: it's quick and dirty, won't work for anyone
> else without tweaks!)
> 
>   Daniel

Thanks for that. The script looks interesting especially as I am trying
to learn Python :)

I am playing around with ssh agent-forwarding and it seems to be coming
together although I tend to keep moving the goalposts when I think of some
new possibility.

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Re: html email

2007-09-15 Thread Jude DaShiell
So far no messages have shown up in mail stream with note about lynx 
changing them to plain text.  However that's because of spamassassin doing 
its work.  I got a well-trained filter over here.  If you use my code 
snippet it's not at all risky.  You can do anything wild at all you like 
so long as you remember to backup to de-html-backup.  I check 
de-html-backup with from -f de-html-backup every so often that way I can 
get a quick sense of what's being captured.  the de-html-backup file has 
the original unmodified email in it before any filtering gets done.




On Sat, 15 Sep 2007, Richard Lyons wrote:


On Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 12:01:21AM -0500, Jude DaShiell wrote:


Nobody quote me on this, but I think I found the tool to strip out mime
attachments and decode them.  If I'm right, piping messages through
uudeview -f -c before piping them through lynx using that procmail stuff
may solve this problem. I'll know by tomorrow since I have a few lists
that send stuff this way.


Just downloaded uudeview to read the man page.  -f and -c both sound
like like risky options...

Awaiting your results with bated breath...

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Xen 3.1 on Debian Sid

2007-09-15 Thread Paolo Alexis Falcone
Hi:

It seems that there's no dom0 linux image for xen in unstable. is the
default 2.6.22 kernel in unstable already merged with dom0
functionality? Or what should I do to run xen 3.1 in unstable?

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Re: html email

2007-09-15 Thread Jude DaShiell
I have to do some investigating.  The note the procmail snippet puts into 
a message was found with the message's header but no body content. 
Possibly uudeview may need some work or perhaps another tool might work 
better.  I forgot earlier to have uudeview work on standard input but got 
that fixed so possibly by later I'll find out how well that works.  It 
could be uudeview isn't appropriate because it may not be able to function 
as a pipe.





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cannot submit datapipe for urb 0

2007-09-15 Thread Barry Samuels
Can anyone explain what this error message means?

"kernel: cannot submit datapipe for urb 0, error -38: enable 
CONFIG_USB_EHCI_SPLIT_ISO to play through a hub"

I get this appear in the logs when I click the 'record' button in 
Audacity which then freezes. I'm trying to record from a record deck 
with a USB connector and I'm not using a USB hub.

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Re: LVM

2007-09-15 Thread Yuriy Padlyak

ok, but I don't know how to move ext3 file system or it's content
without loosing any file attributes, etc either :)

Could you help me please?

Thank you in advance

Tyler MacDonald wrote:

Yuriy Padlyak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi guys,

Wondering how to move Logical volume to other Volume Group. Can't find any
LVM command for this purpose


  You'd create a new logical volume in the other volume group, copy the data
over manually, and delete the old logical volume.

  Cheers,
Tyler



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Re: I Hate the Debian Mailing List!!!!

2007-09-15 Thread Miles Fidelman

Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote:

I can't get one single email to come through, so I might get help.  I have


have you checked your SMTP server against the various spam databases - 
there's a great tool on www.dnsstuff.com that will run a test against 
all the major databases (note: you need to scroll down the page to get 
to the tool)


for that matter, since your return address is on bluebottle.com - which 
advertises itself as providing a "spam-free  email" service - are you 
sure the problem isn't on your end - either outgoing or incoming?



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Re: Configuring onboard intel soundcard: No sound

2007-09-15 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 08:02:11 +0200, Peter Robinson wrote:
> Hey good folks,
>
> I am trying to get sound running on a computer with an intel board and the 
> following parameters:
>
> # lspci | grep -i audio
> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio 
> Controller (rev 02)

I have the same audio device.

> # cat /proc/asound/cards
> 0 [Intel  ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel
>  HDA Intel at 0x8832 irq 23

Looks OK to me, unless there is an interrupt conflict. What is the
output of

cat /proc/interrupts | egrep -i 'hda|23:'

?

> # head -n5 /proc/asound/card0/codec#2
> Codec: SigmaTel STAC9271D
> Address: 2
> Vendor Id: 0x83847627
> Subsystem Id: 0x80862504
> Revision Id: 0x100201

I have a different codec. STAC9271D is known and supported according to
the 2.6.22 kernel sources. I am a bit surprised, though, that it is
"codec#2". Are there any other codecs? (I only have "codec#0".)

Please post the output of the following:

cat /dev/sndstat

ls -l /dev/{snd,dsp}

cat /etc/modprobe.d/sound

grep '.*' /sys/module/snd_hda_intel/parameters/*

> I tried:
> modprobe snd-intel8x0 ; modprobe snd-pcm-oss ; modprobe snd-mixer-oss ; 
> modprobe snd-seq-oss

The snd_hda_intel module should be enough, together with snd_pcm_oss for
legacy OSS support. What is your output for "lsmod | grep snd"?

> Result: No error message when playing audio but also no sound.
>
> I also tried
> #alsoconf (the above card was recognized without problems)
> # alsactl store
> alsactl: save_state:1253: No soundcards found...
> #speaker-test
>
> speaker-test 1.0.14
>
> Playback device is default
> Stream parameters are 48000Hz, S16_LE, 1 channels
> Using 16 octaves of pink noise
> ALSA lib confmisc.c:769:(parse_card) cannot find card ''
> ALSA lib conf.c:3510:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_card_driver 
> returned error: No such device

[...]

> 
> Any ideas? PS, I am running sid with a 2.6.22 kernel.

You might have to pass some additional parameters to the snd_hda_intel
module when you modprobe it. I hope that the output of one of the
commands above will give us a clue.

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Re: LVM

2007-09-15 Thread Tyler MacDonald
Yuriy Padlyak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ok, but I don't know how to move ext3 file system or it's content
> without loosing any file attributes, etc either :)

I usually use (as root):

cp -avx /oldpartition/. /newpartition/.

 -a = Copy all attributes, permissions, recurse, etc.

 -v = Print the name of each file as it's copied

 -x = Don't copy files in other partitions that may be mounted below that
one.

Hope this helps. See the manpage for "cp" for more info.

- Tyler


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Re: I Hate the Debian Mailing List!!!!

2007-09-15 Thread Miles Fidelman

Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote:



Jason Zaphyr wrote:

  

I can't get one single email to come through, so I might get help.  I have


well there's at least one thing that might be causing you a problem:

if you're using mail.bluebottle.com as your smtp server, it has not PTR 
record listed for it's IP address (206.188.24.42) - some mail systems 
don't accept mail from systems that don't have a proper PTR record in 
place - not sure if that applies to lists.debian.org or not



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Re: Configuring onboard intel soundcard: No sound

2007-09-15 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 the mental interface of
Peter Robinson told:

> Hey good folks,
>
> I am trying to get sound running on a computer with an intel board and the 
> following parameters:
>
> # lspci | grep -i audio
> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio 
> Controller (rev 02)
>
> # cat /proc/asound/cards
> 0 [Intel  ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel
>  HDA Intel at 0x8832 irq 23
>
> # head -n5 /proc/asound/card0/codec#2
> Codec: SigmaTel STAC9271D
> Address: 2
> Vendor Id: 0x83847627
> Subsystem Id: 0x80862504
> Revision Id: 0x100201
>
> I tried:
> modprobe snd-intel8x0 ; modprobe snd-pcm-oss ; modprobe snd-mixer-oss ; 
> modprobe snd-seq-oss
>
> Result: No error message when playing audio but also no sound.

alsaconf is buggy. I prepared a working version for alsa-utils
1.0.14-2 which will come soon. Anyway, on 2.6 Kernels alsaconf isn't
neede. Udev does the job ;)

Try:
# modprobe snd-intel8x0
# mv /var/lib/alsa/asound.state /var/lib/alsa/asound.state.save
# /etc/init.d/alsa-utils start

I suppose "Headphone Jack Sense" and "Line Jack Sense" aren't muted
[0] [1] which will be done by the above mentioned commands.

[0] http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/AD1981B
[1] 
http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/FAQ#My_ALSA_modules_seem_to_be_loaded_fine_but_I_hear_no_sound._Why.27s_that.3F

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SOLVED: Always falling to grub prompt

2007-09-15 Thread Victor Munoz
Finally my problem is solved.

The problem was that I had to reinstall grub in the MBR of the first
disk, *telling it that /boot was in a different partition*. I booted
from a LiveCD (I was using GParted's one, as it booted faster than the rescue
option of Debian's LiveCD, and I had to boot quite a few times in the
last hours), then typed "grub". This led to the grub prompt. I set the
root device to (hd1,0), since this is the boot partition (where
grub/stage1 file is):

grub> root (hd1,0)

And then I install grub in the MBR of *the first disk*, where Windows
is installed, and quit the grub shell:

grub> setup (hd0)
grub> quit

Then reboot, and... voila, the grub menu I was missing so much, after
one week of absense. All my kernels and Windows are booting normally,
and I'm very happy. Thanks to all those of you who helped. It was
really difficult to be sure what to do just by browsing the web. Two
particularly useful websites were the grub manual,
http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Installing-GRUB-natively.html#Installing-GRUB-natively,
and 
http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/kb/article.php?id=232

Anyway, for the record, for anyone browsing the web, 
here is a "short" summary of this adventure :-)

1. Initial setup:
   hda  : cdrom
   hdc1 : Windows partition in first disk (10G)
   hdd1 : Linux bootable partition in second disk (160G)
   hdd2 : Linux swap in second disk
   
2. The problem:
   Some kernel upgrade left the system unbootable. Booting with the
   new kernel led to Error 18 (more cylinders than BIOS can manage).
   Old kernel booted. Subsequent kernel upgrades and playing with
   menu.lst completed the mess. In the end, I had two kernels (the
   oldest and the newest) booting, and two kernels with Error 18. 
   None of them booted normally, though, and I always got the grub
   prompt. I had to manually give "root", "kernel", "initrd" and 
   "boot" commands at the prompt, to boot.
   
3. The diagnostics: 
   As someone pointed out, kernels and menu.lst must
   have been written beyond the zone visible by the BIOS, so after
   months of normal operation, suddenly I could not boot. 

4. Solution (first step):
   Following suggestions from this list, I left a small boot partition
   at the beginning of /dev/hdd. I used GParted Live CD 0.3.4-8, which
   was able (amazingly) to move the beginning of the /dev/hdd1
   partition. I left 500 M free. With GParted, I set it as ext3. After
   "executing pending actions", which meant 1h40m of waiting until the
   resize of hdd1 completed, I had a new "/dev/hdd3" partition at 
   the beginning of the 160G disk. Then I set the bootable flag on it,
   also with GParted. 
   
   Now open a terminal, and followed the suggestions I received:
   
   - Mounted both partitions, /dev/hdd3 as /mnt/new-part and /dev/hdd1 as
   /mnt/old-part.
   - Copy /mnt/old-part/boot/* to /mnt/new-part
   - Moved /mnt/old-part/boot to /mnt/old-part/old-boot, 
 then mkdir /mnt/old-part/boot [probably not necessary?]. 
   - Edit /mnt/old-part/fstab (see later for the final setup that works)
   - Umount /mnt/new-part, remount on /mnt/old-part/boot
   - Chroot into /mnt/old-part
   - Edited menu.lst (see later for the final setup that works)
  
   I rebuilt initrd's:
   update-initramfs -k "all" -u
   
5. Solution (second, probably unnecessary, step)

   The previous procedure didn't work, and I was still left with an
   unbootable system. It failed with "Error 15", and not even got a
   grub prompt. I thought there was a problem with partition order,
   and I fixed that. fstab and menu.lst were edited accordingly,
   and that's the setup that is working now, but I don't think 
   this step was necessary. Anyway:
   
   fdisk /dev/hdd
   
   Used commands: m (menu), p (print partition table), x (extra
  functionality), f (fix partition order),
  w (write partition table to disk)
  
   Final /etc/fstab:
   
   /dev/hdd2/   ext3defaults,errors=remount-ro  0 1
   /dev/hdd1/boot  ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro  0 2
   /dev/hdd3none   swap sw  0 0
   [other lines]
   
   Final /boot/grub/device.map:
   
   (hd0) /dev/hdc
   (hd1) /dev/hdd
   
   Final /boot/grub/menu.lst [only relevant lines]:
   
   [...]
   # kopt=root=/dev/hdd2 ro
   [...]
   # groot=(hd1,0)
   [...]
   root (hd1,0)
   kernel   /vmlinuz- root=/dev/hdd2 ro
   initrd   /initrd.img-
   savedefault
   [...]
   titleWindows
   root (hd0,0)
   savedefault
   makeactive
   chainloader  +1

6. Solution (third and final, and critical, step)

   The problem persisted, and the solution was to reinstall grub
   in the MBR of the first disk (hd0, hdc), with root in (hd0,1) [hdd]:
   
   After booting from LiveCD:
   
   # grub
   grub> root (hd0,1)
   grub> setup (hd0)
   grub> quit
   #
   
Ok, that's it. Thanks again for the help.

Victor
   
   


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Re: Linux Printer Sharing

2007-09-15 Thread ArcticFox


On Sep 14, 2007, at 8:59 PM, steve wrote:


ArcticFox wrote:
I have an HP printer that I would like to share to my other two 
computers. One's a Mac and the other's Windows. The printer will be 
connected to the server through USB, I can get the server to print to 
the printer, but I can't get the other two computers to find it.


Please help, I've no idea what else to do!


cant help with the windows side, but the mac should have cups already 
running.   try localhost:631 from a browser on the mac box and 
configure from there. if cups isnt running or installed then install 
it first. then  administration -> add printer , location is the only 
thing that really needs to be correct ...that would be /the ip of 
the linux box/printers/name of the printer


It seems to be running, however I can't do anything there as it keeps 
asking for a username and password. I've tried my administrative 
account (that I can use for everything else) as well as the root 
account and it just keeps bouncing back to the same page.



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Re: Linux Printer Sharing

2007-09-15 Thread ArcticFox


On Sep 15, 2007, at 12:32 PM, ArcticFox wrote:



On Sep 14, 2007, at 8:59 PM, steve wrote:


ArcticFox wrote:
I have an HP printer that I would like to share to my other two 
computers. One's a Mac and the other's Windows. The printer will be 
connected to the server through USB, I can get the server to print 
to the printer, but I can't get the other two computers to find it.


Please help, I've no idea what else to do!


cant help with the windows side, but the mac should have cups already 
running.   try localhost:631 from a browser on the mac box and 
configure from there. if cups isnt running or installed then install 
it first. then  administration -> add printer , location is the only 
thing that really needs to be correct ...that would be /the ip of 
the linux box/printers/name of the printer


It seems to be running, however I can't do anything there as it keeps 
asking for a username and password. I've tried my administrative 
account (that I can use for everything else) as well as the root 
account and it just keeps bouncing back to the same page.



Never mind the password was just different then I thought it was.


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Re: Linux Printer Sharing

2007-09-15 Thread ArcticFox


On Sep 14, 2007, at 8:59 PM, steve wrote:


ArcticFox wrote:
I have an HP printer that I would like to share to my other two 
computers. One's a Mac and the other's Windows. The printer will be 
connected to the server through USB, I can get the server to print to 
the printer, but I can't get the other two computers to find it.


Please help, I've no idea what else to do!


cant help with the windows side, but the mac should have cups already 
running.   try localhost:631 from a browser on the mac box and 
configure from there. if cups isnt running or installed then install 
it first. then  administration -> add printer , location is the only 
thing that really needs to be correct ...that would be /the ip of 
the linux box/printers/name of the printer


Ok, I've done that but my mac can't seem to find the printer. I've got 
a message asking me for the 'Device URI' and I have no idea what it's 
looking for.



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Re: I Hate the Debian Mailing List!!!!

2007-09-15 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
Miles Fidelman wrote:

> Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote:
>>> I can't get one single email to come through, so I might get help.  I
>>> have
>>>
>>> 
> have you checked your SMTP server against the various spam databases -
> there's a great tool on www.dnsstuff.com that will run a test against
> all the major databases (note: you need to scroll down the page to get
> to the tool)
> 
> for that matter, since your return address is on bluebottle.com - which
> advertises itself as providing a "spam-free  email" service - are you
> sure the problem isn't on your end - either outgoing or incoming?

Hi Fidelman,

I am not having problems with d-u list. Jason Zaphyr is having some problems
and I was just trying to help. He does not have a bluebottle email account,
I do! LOL!

raju
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Re: mail messages with only html

2007-09-15 Thread s. keeling
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
>  On 09/13/07 17:36, Richard Lyons wrote:
> > This is becoming more of a problem.  There is a growing number of firms
> > that are incapable of sending out normal emails.  They insist on sending
> > blank messages with an html attachment only.  Of course this is usually
> 
>  Not a direct answer to your question, but if you are using mutt
>  under X, then there are html viewers that can hook into mutt.

Not just X.  w3m works just fine with mutt.

(0) heretic /home/keeling_ grep w3m mutt/mailcap
multipart/alternative ;  /usr/bin/w3m -dump %s; copiousoutput; 
nametemplate=%s.html
multipart/related ;  /usr/bin/w3m -dump %s; copiousoutput; 
nametemplate=%s.html
text/html ;  /usr/bin/w3m -T text/html -dump %s ; copiousoutput


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Best way to install second version of Debian?

2007-09-15 Thread Anthony Campbell
I want to install a second version of Debian on a spare partition of my
HDD (can't have too much of a good thing ...).

Currently I have /dev/sda1 as Sidux, /dev/sda3 as Ubuntu. I want to put
Debian on /dev/sda8. The step I'm worried about is the final one: i.e.
how to manage the boot subsequently without losing access to the
existing partitions.

Any pointers to documentation, or advice please?

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Re: Linux Printer Sharing

2007-09-15 Thread Andrew J. Barr
On 9/15/07, ArcticFox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ok, I've done that but my mac can't seem to find the printer. I've got
> a message asking me for the 'Device URI' and I have no idea what it's
> looking for.

In recent releases of CUPS, you can navigate to localhost:631 using
the web browser on the server machine, select "Administration" and
then select the option for sharing printers over the local network.

This makes adding the printer to client machines really easy. It
should Just Work in GNOME, probably Mac OS X too, and Windows can do
the same thing if you install the Bonjour for Windows package from
Apple.

I did have the Bonjour Printer Wizard on my Windows XP box select a
really odd driver for my LaserJet 1320 (native PCL 6 with PS level 2
emulation), but after manually installing and selecting the native PCL
6 driver from HP, it worked just fine.


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Re: Xen 3.1 on Debian Sid

2007-09-15 Thread Gilles Mocellin
Le Saturday 15 September 2007 18:04:39 Paolo Alexis Falcone, vous avez écrit :
> Hi:
>
> It seems that there's no dom0 linux image for xen in unstable. is the
> default 2.6.22 kernel in unstable already merged with dom0
> functionality? Or what should I do to run xen 3.1 in unstable?

As I understand, there will not be dom0 Xen part in upstream Linux, only the 
domU's part.
The dom0 is very intrusive.
See here :
http://lists.xensource.com/archives/html/xen-devel/2007-07/msg00744.html

We don't have a Xen kernel in SID because, there is no official Xen patch for 
kernel > 2.6.20.

Fedora 6 is at the same point, current kernel : 2.6.22, Xen kernel : 2.6.20.


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Re: Configuring onboard intel soundcard: No sound

2007-09-15 Thread Peter Robinson

Florian Kulzer wrote:

On Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 08:02:11 +0200, Peter Robinson wrote:
  



Tach Florian, here is the output of the various commands:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /proc/interrupts | egrep -i 'hda|23:'
23: 274056  0   IO-APIC-fasteoi   HDA Intel

There is apparently only one codec:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls /proc/asound/card0/
codec#2id oss_mixer  pcm0c/ pcm0p/ pcm1p/


Please post the output of the following:

cat /dev/sndstat
  

cat /dev/sndstat
Sound Driver:3.8.1a-980706 (ALSA v1.0.14 emulation code)
Kernel: Linux peter 2.6.22-2-686 #1 SMP Fri Aug 31 00:24:01 UTC 2007 i686
Config options: 0

Installed drivers:
Type 10: ALSA emulation

Card config:
HDA Intel at 0x8832 irq 23

Audio devices:
0: STAC92xx Analog (DUPLEX)

Synth devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG

Midi devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG

Timers:
7: system timer

Mixers:
0: SigmaTel STAC9271D
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ 


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls -l /dev/{snd,dsp}
crw-rw 1 root audio 14, 3 2007-09-15 18:16 /dev/dsp

/dev/snd:
total 0
crw-rw 1 root audio 116,  0 2007-09-15 18:16 controlC0
crw-rw 1 root audio 116, 24 2007-09-15 18:16 pcmC0D0c
crw-rw 1 root audio 116, 16 2007-09-15 18:16 pcmC0D0p
crw-rw 1 root audio 116, 17 2007-09-15 18:16 pcmC0D1p
crw-rw 1 root audio 116, 33 2007-09-15 18:16 timer


cat /etc/modprobe.d/sound
  


cat /etc/modprobe.d/sound
alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel
options snd-hda-intel index=0


***

grep '.*' /sys/module/snd_hda_intel/parameters/*
/sys/module/snd_hda_intel/parameters/enable:N
/sys/module/snd_hda_intel/parameters/id:
/sys/module/snd_hda_intel/parameters/index:0
/sys/module/snd_hda_intel/parameters/model:
/sys/module/snd_hda_intel/parameters/position_fix:0
/sys/module/snd_hda_intel/parameters/probe_mask:-1
/sys/module/snd_hda_intel/parameters/single_cmd:N
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$


*

Thanks! Peter



I tried:
modprobe snd-intel8x0 ; modprobe snd-pcm-oss ; modprobe snd-mixer-oss ; 
modprobe snd-seq-oss



The snd_hda_intel module should be enough, together with snd_pcm_oss for
legacy OSS support. What is your output for "lsmod | grep snd"?

  

Result: No error message when playing audio but also no sound.

I also tried
#alsoconf (the above card was recognized without problems)
# alsactl store
alsactl: save_state:1253: No soundcards found...
#speaker-test

speaker-test 1.0.14

Playback device is default
Stream parameters are 48000Hz, S16_LE, 1 channels
Using 16 octaves of pink noise
ALSA lib confmisc.c:769:(parse_card) cannot find card ''
ALSA lib conf.c:3510:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_card_driver 
returned error: No such device



[...]

  


Any ideas? PS, I am running sid with a 2.6.22 kernel.



You might have to pass some additional parameters to the snd_hda_intel
module when you modprobe it. I hope that the output of one of the
commands above will give us a clue.

  



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Re: Configuring onboard intel soundcard: No sound

2007-09-15 Thread Peter Robinson

Elimar Riesebieter wrote:

On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 the mental interface of
Peter Robinson told:

  

Hey good folks,

I am trying to get sound running on a computer with an intel board and the 
following parameters:


# lspci | grep -i audio
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio 
Controller (rev 02)


# cat /proc/asound/cards
0 [Intel  ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel
 HDA Intel at 0x8832 irq 23

# head -n5 /proc/asound/card0/codec#2
Codec: SigmaTel STAC9271D
Address: 2
Vendor Id: 0x83847627
Subsystem Id: 0x80862504
Revision Id: 0x100201

I tried:
modprobe snd-intel8x0 ; modprobe snd-pcm-oss ; modprobe snd-mixer-oss ; 
modprobe snd-seq-oss


Result: No error message when playing audio but also no sound.



alsaconf is buggy. I prepared a working version for alsa-utils
1.0.14-2 which will come soon. Anyway, on 2.6 Kernels alsaconf isn't
neede. Udev does the job ;)

Try:
# modprobe snd-intel8x0
# mv /var/lib/alsa/asound.state /var/lib/alsa/asound.state.save
# /etc/init.d/alsa-utils start

I suppose "Headphone Jack Sense" and "Line Jack Sense" aren't muted
[0] [1] which will be done by the above mentioned commands.

[0] http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/AD1981B
[1] 
http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/FAQ#My_ALSA_modules_seem_to_be_loaded_fine_but_I_hear_no_sound._Why.27s_that.3F

Elimar


  



That corrected the problem! Thanks for the help to all who answered!
-peter




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Re: Linux Printer Sharing

2007-09-15 Thread ArcticFox


On Sep 15, 2007, at 1:03 PM, Andrew J. Barr wrote:


On 9/15/07, ArcticFox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Ok, I've done that but my mac can't seem to find the printer. I've got
a message asking me for the 'Device URI' and I have no idea what it's
looking for.


In recent releases of CUPS, you can navigate to localhost:631 using
the web browser on the server machine, select "Administration" and
then select the option for sharing printers over the local network.

This makes adding the printer to client machines really easy. It
should Just Work in GNOME, probably Mac OS X too, and Windows can do
the same thing if you install the Bonjour for Windows package from
Apple.

I did have the Bonjour Printer Wizard on my Windows XP box select a
really odd driver for my LaserJet 1320 (native PCL 6 with PS level 2
emulation), but after manually installing and selecting the native PCL
6 driver from HP, it worked just fine.

I've got the printer setup and I can print from the Linux box, however 
I still can't get my Mac to print to it. Sending a job just results in 
getting the message "Printer is busy or unreachable, will try again in 
30 seconds."


What should I use as the URI? I can't find a hint anywhere.


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Gnome Update Manager's "Smart" Update

2007-09-15 Thread Tyler MacDonald
   The "Smart" update button in the update manager often comes back to me
with a solution that involes removing software that I use every day, in fact
software that I usually have open when the update manager is open (such as
pidgin and anjuta).

  Is that really such a smart idea? Why is the update manager suggesting
that's a smart idea? It will cripple my ability to work! Is it really that
smart of the update manager to suggest such a thing? Is it such a smart
thing to call that button "smart"?

  Thanks,
Tyler


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Re: Linux Printer Sharing

2007-09-15 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 12:59:43 -0500, ArcticFox wrote:
>
> On Sep 14, 2007, at 8:59 PM, steve wrote:
>
>> ArcticFox wrote:
>>> I have an HP printer that I would like to share to my other two 
>>> computers. One's a Mac and the other's Windows. The printer will be 
>>> connected to the server through USB, I can get the server to print to the 
>>> printer, but I can't get the other two computers to find it.
>>>
>>> Please help, I've no idea what else to do!
>>>
>>>
>> cant help with the windows side, but the mac should have cups already 
>> running.   try localhost:631 from a browser on the mac box and configure 
>> from there. if cups isnt running or installed then install it first. then  
>> administration -> add printer , location is the only thing that really 
>> needs to be correct ...that would be /the ip of the linux 
>> box/printers/name of the printer
>>
> Ok, I've done that but my mac can't seem to find the printer. I've got a 
> message asking me for the 'Device URI' and I have no idea what it's looking 
> for.

For an SMB-shared printer on a remote host, the DeviceURI should follow
this scheme:

smb://[username:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:port]/[printer_name]"

More information is available in the CUPS documentation:

http://localhost:631/help/spec-ipp.html#device-uri
http://localhost:631/help/ref-printers-conf.html#DeviceURI

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Re: Xen 3.1 on Debian Sid

2007-09-15 Thread Gilles Mocellin
Le Saturday 15 September 2007 20:05:01 Gilles Mocellin, vous avez écrit :
> Le Saturday 15 September 2007 18:04:39 Paolo Alexis Falcone, vous avez 
écrit :
> > Hi:
> >
> > It seems that there's no dom0 linux image for xen in unstable. is the
> > default 2.6.22 kernel in unstable already merged with dom0
> > functionality? Or what should I do to run xen 3.1 in unstable?
>
> As I understand, there will not be dom0 Xen part in upstream Linux, only
> the domU's part.
> The dom0 is very intrusive.
> See here :
> http://lists.xensource.com/archives/html/xen-devel/2007-07/msg00744.html
>
> We don't have a Xen kernel in SID because, there is no official Xen patch
> for kernel > 2.6.20.
>
> Fedora 6 is at the same point, current kernel : 2.6.22, Xen kernel :
> 2.6.20.

I mean Fedora 7.


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Re: Linux Printer Sharing

2007-09-15 Thread Ron Johnson
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On 09/15/07 12:59, ArcticFox wrote:
> 
> On Sep 14, 2007, at 8:59 PM, steve wrote:
> 
>> ArcticFox wrote:
>>> I have an HP printer that I would like to share to my other two
>>> computers. One's a Mac and the other's Windows. The printer will be
>>> connected to the server through USB, I can get the server to print to
>>> the printer, but I can't get the other two computers to find it.
>>>
>>> Please help, I've no idea what else to do!
>>>
>>>
>> cant help with the windows side, but the mac should have cups already
>> running.   try localhost:631 from a browser on the mac box and
>> configure from there. if cups isnt running or installed then install
>> it first. then  administration -> add printer , location is the only
>> thing that really needs to be correct ...that would be /the ip of
>> the linux box/printers/name of the printer
>>
> Ok, I've done that but my mac can't seem to find the printer. I've got a
> message asking me for the 'Device URI' and I have no idea what it's
> looking for.

Try your print server's IP address.

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Re: Best way to install second version of Debian?

2007-09-15 Thread Joe

Anthony Campbell wrote:

I want to install a second version of Debian on a spare partition of my
HDD (can't have too much of a good thing ...).

Currently I have /dev/sda1 as Sidux, /dev/sda3 as Ubuntu. I want to put
Debian on /dev/sda8. The step I'm worried about is the final one: i.e.
how to manage the boot subsequently without losing access to the
existing partitions.

Any pointers to documentation, or advice please?


You will be asked if you want to install a boot manager. Don't, then
at the end of the installation, boot into the 'master' OS, the one which
installed the current grub bootloader, then edit /boot/grub/menu.lst to
add the new OS.

It should be reasonably obvious what is needed, but menu.lst will
contain the list of documentation, which may not be the same in all
installations. It is fairly well commented.

Generally use the same options as the existing OS entries, unless you
know otherwise, and avoid any section which is auto-generated.


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Re: Gnome Update Manager's "Smart" Update

2007-09-15 Thread Andrew J. Barr
On 9/15/07, Tyler MacDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>The "Smart" update button in the update manager often comes back to me
> with a solution that involes removing software that I use every day, in fact
> software that I usually have open when the update manager is open (such as
> pidgin and anjuta).
>
>   Is that really such a smart idea? Why is the update manager suggesting
> that's a smart idea? It will cripple my ability to work! Is it really that
> smart of the update manager to suggest such a thing? Is it such a smart
> thing to call that button "smart"?

"smart" refers to resolving dependencies by installing additional
packages or removing software, as opposed to simply not installing
packages that would require such actions. If you are using unstable
(which, given the fact that you are using update-manager "often", it
would be logical to conclude you are), then you should wait a few days
for missing dependencies or updated packages to be uploaded to the
archive.

FWIW, I have pidgin installed and there are no problems I am aware of.
In fact 2.2.0 was recently uploaded to the archive.

>   Thanks,
> Tyler
>
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Xmms2

2007-09-15 Thread David Baron
This new version has stopped working (never really used it but ... )
Error message is:
Bad glib version: GLib version too old (micro mismatch)

Xmms2 and glib from Sid.


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html messages

2007-09-15 Thread Jude DaShiell
There's a utility called mailtextbody that may be what's neded to strip 
mime.  That before the | lynx -dump in the code snippet may work better 
than uudeview.




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Re: Linux Printer Sharing

2007-09-15 Thread Mirco Piccin
Hi all.
I've  a Etch machine that acts also as a print server.
In my laptop is installed a lenny, and in my wife laptop, win XP pro (:-().
I have 2 printers configured in my server (one usb port and one lpt port).

I have NOT installed samba on my server (well, really it's installed, but
not configured to share printers!).

I have configured both in my laptop using CUPS and pointing the to the
server (for example: http://my_server:631/printers/my_printer_name).
In the XP laptop i use the Adobe Postscript Driver and configure in the way
described above.

Of course, in my server i have modified the cups configuration file
(etc/cups/cupsd.conf) to allow the connection from other hosts.

Anyway, i agree with Ron & Steve, SAMBA should be the better way to do that
job.
For win machine you can use also the "cupsaddsmb" utility to automagic
install!!

Hope it helps you!
Bye


Re: Linux Printer Sharing

2007-09-15 Thread ArcticFox
I can't seem to find the right printer driver to use. There's on on my 
Linux machine that works perfectly, but I don't have that driver on my 
mac and I can't find it online. The closest I can get is ' HP 
PhotoSmart P1100, CUPS+Gimp-Print v4.2.5' but that doesn't work. The 
printer's a Photosmart 7450.



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Re: Linux Printer Sharing

2007-09-15 Thread ArcticFox


On Sep 15, 2007, at 3:12 PM, ArcticFox wrote:

I can't seem to find the right printer driver to use. There's on on my 
Linux machine that works perfectly, but I don't have that driver on my 
mac and I can't find it online. The closest I can get is ' HP 
PhotoSmart P1100, CUPS+Gimp-Print v4.2.5' but that doesn't work. The 
printer's a Photosmart 7450.


OK, I found a foomatic printer driver that's the same one I'm using on 
my Linux machine and installed it on my mac. I setup the printer 
through the Printer Setup Utility as the CUPS web-interface wouldn't 
find the driver I installed, however when I try and print I get the 
message 'Connecting to 10.0.0.150:631' then after a while it drops into 
'Network host '10.0.0.150' is busy...' and just stays there. My host 
computer isn't doing /anything/ other than waiting for stuff to print.


This is giving me a headache...


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Re: Linux Printer Sharing

2007-09-15 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 15:12:24 -0500, ArcticFox wrote:
> I can't seem to find the right printer driver to use. There's on on my 
> Linux machine that works perfectly, but I don't have that driver on my mac 
> and I can't find it online. The closest I can get is ' HP PhotoSmart P1100, 
> CUPS+Gimp-Print v4.2.5' but that doesn't work. The printer's a Photosmart 
> 7450.

The printer definition should be easy to find on the Linux machine since
CUPS copies the PPD files of all installed printers into /etc/cups/ppd/.

If have more than one file in this directory then you can run

grep '^\*NickName:' /etc/cups/ppd/*

to figure out which one you need.

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Re: Debian packages without md5sums

2007-09-15 Thread Felix Karpfen
On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 12:29:28 -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:

> On Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 09:25:39PM +, Felix Karpfen wrote:

>> How do you use the key(s) listed in "/etc/apt/trusted.gpg" to
>> authenticate the individual installed packages. 
> 
> sorry, beyond me. on my system it just works. 
> 
>> 
>> Does "untrusted" have the meaning assigned in "gpg" - i.e. "the content
>> has not been altered, but the signer is unknown"?
> 
> I'm not sure.
> 
>> 
>> If so, then I am worrying about nothing!!
> 
> not if the package is a compromised package that's been signed by the
> compromiser so that its signature is good but from an untrusted
> source, but we're outside my understanding here.

Mine too.

But an out-of-sync repository sounds a much worse fate that the remote
possibility that packages on Etch DVDs (from a reputable supplier) were
tampered with and then gpg-signed by the tamperer.

Thank you for sharing your experience.

Felix



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Re: Linux Printer Sharing

2007-09-15 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 the mental interface of
ArcticFox told:

>
> On Sep 15, 2007, at 3:12 PM, ArcticFox wrote:
>
>> I can't seem to find the right printer driver to use. There's on on my 
>> Linux machine that works perfectly, but I don't have that driver on my mac 
>> and I can't find it online. The closest I can get is ' HP PhotoSmart 
>> P1100, CUPS+Gimp-Print v4.2.5' but that doesn't work. The printer's a 
>> Photosmart 7450.
>>
> OK, I found a foomatic printer driver that's the same one I'm using on my 
> Linux machine and installed it on my mac. I setup the printer through the 
> Printer Setup Utility as the CUPS web-interface wouldn't find the driver I 
> installed, however when I try and print I get the message 'Connecting to 
> 10.0.0.150:631' then after a while it drops into 'Network host '10.0.0.150' 
> is busy...' and just stays there. My host computer isn't doing /anything/ 
> other than waiting for stuff to print.
>
> This is giving me a headache...

You don't need a driver on a cups client! Make sure
"ServerName CupsServer" is mentioned in your client.conf, which
should be in /etc/cups on your MAC as well.

Next make sure, in your /etc/cups/cupsd.conf on your CupsServer
"Listen 631" is mentioned.

Thats it.

Elimar

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Re: Gnome Update Manager's "Smart" Update

2007-09-15 Thread Tyler MacDonald
Andrew J. Barr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >   Is that really such a smart idea? Why is the update manager suggesting
> > that's a smart idea? It will cripple my ability to work! Is it really that
> > smart of the update manager to suggest such a thing? Is it such a smart
> > thing to call that button "smart"?
> 
> "smart" refers to resolving dependencies by installing additional
> packages or removing software, as opposed to simply not installing
> packages that would require such actions.

  Is that always the smart thing to do?

- Tyler


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Re: Linux Printer Sharing

2007-09-15 Thread ArcticFox


On Sep 15, 2007, at 4:18 PM, Elimar Riesebieter wrote:


On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 the mental interface of
ArcticFox told:



On Sep 15, 2007, at 3:12 PM, ArcticFox wrote:

I can't seem to find the right printer driver to use. There's on on 
my
Linux machine that works perfectly, but I don't have that driver on 
my mac

and I can't find it online. The closest I can get is ' HP PhotoSmart
P1100, CUPS+Gimp-Print v4.2.5' but that doesn't work. The printer's a
Photosmart 7450.

OK, I found a foomatic printer driver that's the same one I'm using 
on my
Linux machine and installed it on my mac. I setup the printer through 
the
Printer Setup Utility as the CUPS web-interface wouldn't find the 
driver I
installed, however when I try and print I get the message 'Connecting 
to
10.0.0.150:631' then after a while it drops into 'Network host 
'10.0.0.150'
is busy...' and just stays there. My host computer isn't doing 
/anything/

other than waiting for stuff to print.

This is giving me a headache...


You don't need a driver on a cups client! Make sure
"ServerName CupsServer" is mentioned in your client.conf, which
should be in /etc/cups on your MAC as well.


If I don't have a driver, my computer doesn't think it's a real printer.


Next make sure, in your /etc/cups/cupsd.conf on your CupsServer
"Listen 631" is mentioned.

Thats it.

Elimar

Ok, I've done that. However if I don't have a driver for my Mac I can't 
even select the printer when I'm trying to print something.



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Re: Where'd my "debian" menu go???

2007-09-15 Thread David Baron
On Thursday 13 September 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
> I'm running sid.
>
> In Gnome, I've gotten used to having a "Debian" menu under "Applications"
> where all those non-gnome apps go.
>
> However, it's disappeared!!!
>
> Not only that, but when I go to the "Edit Menus" option, it's not there
> either. It's like it's disappered off of the face of the planet.
>
> I distinctly remember being able to enable/disable submenus in that section
> at one point, but today it looks like I'm not able to change what submenus
> appear, only the applications within those menus. (eg; the only thing I can
> check/uncheck at the root level is "ATI Control")
>
> How do I get my debian menu back? I miss it.

Haven't seen mine in ages. Forgot what it looked like.
A second the motion to restore it to its former glory.



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Re: Gnome Update Manager's "Smart" Update

2007-09-15 Thread Andrew J. Barr
On 9/15/07, Tyler MacDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Andrew J. Barr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >   Is that really such a smart idea? Why is the update manager suggesting
> > > that's a smart idea? It will cripple my ability to work! Is it really that
> > > smart of the update manager to suggest such a thing? Is it such a smart
> > > thing to call that button "smart"?
> >
> > "smart" refers to resolving dependencies by installing additional
> > packages or removing software, as opposed to simply not installing
> > packages that would require such actions.
>
>   Is that always the smart thing to do?

That's why you have the option to turn it down.

> - Tyler
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Re: mail messages with only html

2007-09-15 Thread Richard Lyons
On Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 07:59:13PM +0200, s. keeling wrote:

> Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > 
> >  On 09/13/07 17:36, Richard Lyons wrote:
> > > This is becoming more of a problem.  There is a growing number of firms
> > > that are incapable of sending out normal emails.  They insist on sending
> > > blank messages with an html attachment only.  Of course this is usually
> > 
> >  Not a direct answer to your question, but if you are using mutt
> >  under X, then there are html viewers that can hook into mutt.
> 
> Not just X.  w3m works just fine with mutt.
> 
> (0) heretic /home/keeling_ grep w3m mutt/mailcap
> multipart/alternative ;  /usr/bin/w3m -dump %s; copiousoutput; 
> nametemplate=%s.html
> multipart/related ;  /usr/bin/w3m -dump %s; copiousoutput; 
> nametemplate=%s.html
> text/html ;  /usr/bin/w3m -T text/html -dump %s ; copiousoutput
> 

Thanks.  I have now set up mutt and mailcap as you and Benjamin suggest
and the whole issue is greatly eased.  The reply function also now picks
up the w3m output as someone else indicated so it is pretty convenient.
I probably shall one day set up the filter to scrap the html part
completely and save only the email version (by which I mean plain text),
but it is no longer urgent.

Another example of my having given up without learning enoough first :-(

But thanks to everybody for the support.

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Re: Linux Printer Sharing

2007-09-15 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 the mental interface of
ArcticFox told:

[...]
> Ok, I've done that. However if I don't have a driver for my Mac I can't 
> even select the printer when I'm trying to print something.

The printername must be the same as on the Linux machine, which is
the server.

Again:

Listen 631
Browsing On

must be set on your cupsd.conf server machine. Don't forget to
/etc/init.d/cupsys restart.

Your Mac uses the driver of your server. This is one part of cups'
philosophy ;)

Try on your MAC:

$ lpstat -a

It must tell you that PrinterName is idle since some date. If not,
Mac can't communicate with the cups server.

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Re: Linux Printer Sharing

2007-09-15 Thread ArcticFox


On Sep 15, 2007, at 4:37 PM, Elimar Riesebieter wrote:


On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 the mental interface of
ArcticFox told:

[...]
Ok, I've done that. However if I don't have a driver for my Mac I 
can't

even select the printer when I'm trying to print something.


The printername must be the same as on the Linux machine, which is
the server.

Again:

Listen 631
Browsing On


I've done that. It's there.


must be set on your cupsd.conf server machine. Don't forget to
/etc/init.d/cupsys restart.

Your Mac uses the driver of your server. This is one part of cups'
philosophy ;)

Try on your MAC:

$ lpstat -a


Tells me this:

lpstat: Unable to connect to server: Invalid argument



It must tell you that PrinterName is idle since some date. If not,
Mac can't communicate with the cups server.

Elimar


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Re: Linux Printer Sharing

2007-09-15 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 the mental interface of
ArcticFox told:

>
> On Sep 15, 2007, at 4:37 PM, Elimar Riesebieter wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 the mental interface of
>> ArcticFox told:
>>
>> [...]
>>> Ok, I've done that. However if I don't have a driver for my Mac I can't
>>> even select the printer when I'm trying to print something.
>>
>> The printername must be the same as on the Linux machine, which is
>> the server.
>>
>> Again:
>>
>> Listen 631
>> Browsing On
>>
> I've done that. It's there.
>
>> must be set on your cupsd.conf server machine. Don't forget to
>> /etc/init.d/cupsys restart.
>>
>> Your Mac uses the driver of your server. This is one part of cups'
>> philosophy ;)
>>
>> Try on your MAC:
>>
>> $ lpstat -a
>>
> Tells me this:
>
> lpstat: Unable to connect to server: Invalid argument

What is your network sort of? TCP/IP or what? Can you ping your Cups
server?



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