Re: /dev/mouse disappears !! [SOLVED]

[Ibrahim Mubarak]

--- "[KS]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Ibrahim Mubarak wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > After upgrading to X.Org and kernel 2.6.12 today, when I create a
> soft
> > symlink in /dev called mouse pointing to psaux, the next time I
> boot,
> > it will no longer be there. Tried it quite a few times. I can't
> explain
> > it. Can you?
> > I am a little uncomfortable putting /dev/psaux instead of
> /dev/mouse in
> > xorg.conf
> > 
> Trying using: "/dev/input/mice"
> 
> xorg.conf automatically add /dev/input/mice for me.
> 

Thx, that works great.

ib




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Re: X server security defaults.

[wim]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I am running Debian Sarge on a simple single-user desktop system.  My X
display is started by kdm.  By default, Debian configures the  X server
to allow connections only by the user logged into the machine through
kdm.  If I want to start an X client by another user (e.g. start vim-gtk
as su'd root) I have to first type "xhost +local" as the logged-in user,
or transfer xauth tokens to the unprivileged user.  It doesn't seem like
this is something I should have to do all the time.  Since my X server
is configured not to listen for TCP connections and since I am the only
user on the machine, "xhost +local" seems to be a reasonable default. 
Does anyone disagree?  How can I make "xhost +local" the default

configuration?

Thanks in advance for your input.

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Doesn't kde has a "run-as" function?  There's such a function in gnome...

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Re: screen resolution for desktop

[Kent West]

Ganeshram Iyer wrote:

>On 7/23/05, michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
>
>>On Sat, 2005-07-23 at 09:57 -0400, Rajiv Vyas wrote:
>>
>>
>>>How do I change the screen resolution in Debian.
>>>  
>>>
>>Assuming you're using XF86/XFree86, you need to amend Screen-Display
>>values in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 (see archives for discussion)
>>
>>
>>
>if you are using xfree86 then as root and without X running type
>'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86'.
>
Be aware that if you've manually modified "/etc/X11/XF86Config-4", the
"dpkg-reconfigure" method will silently fail to make changes to the file
until you follow the steps at the top of the XF86Config-4 file.

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run cyrreconstruct -m as user cyrus

[Peter Teunissen]

Hi all,I've messed up my cyrus mailbox file and need to run cyrreconstruct -m to attempt repair. cyrreconstruct needs to be run as user cyrus however, but I cannot su to cyrus, even after adding an password to user cyrus with usermod -p. I've delved into rute, googled but nothing gives me a good direction. What do I need to do to be able to run cyrreconstruct as user cyrus?TIA,   Peter Teunissen  Linux user nr. 389180  -- Never argue with idiots; they'll drag you down to their own level and beat you on experience.   -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version 3.12 GFA/P/IT$ d+(++) s: a C++$>+++$ UB/L+>$ P L++ !E W++  N- o? K? w$>!w !O M+(++) V? PS++ PE- Y+ PGP- t 5?  X- !R !tv b++(+++) DI D+ G>++ e++ h--- r+++ y+++ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK--  

Re: why do PPP connections die with heavy disk usage?

[Miquel van Smoorenburg]

On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 14:04 -0400, Daniel B. wrote:
> Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote:
> 
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > Daniel B. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> >>Does anyone know why Linux can't seem to maintain a diald-dialed serial
> >>PPP connection while performing lots of disk I/O, especially on a PIO-mode
> >>IDE disk?
> > 
> > 
> > Because the IDE driver turns off interrupt processing completely
> > when issuing commands to / reading data from the drive. With DMA,
> > you don't really notice, in PIO mode, you do ..
> 
> If it turns off interrupt processing completely, how would, say,
> keyboard and timer interrupts get processed?  Wouldn't I be seeing
> keystrokes getting dropped occasionally?

It blocks them, ofcourse. The hardware still sets the interrupt bit.

> 
> Do you mean that interrupt handling is _suspended_ when writing
> to/reading from the drive (that is, other interrupts aren't ignored
> entirely; just deferred)?

Same difference :)

> 
> 
> >>Does the kernel not handle serial port interrupts with higher priority
> >>than disk interrupts to make sure that serial data doesn't overrun
> >>buffers?
> > 
> > 
> > Because the IDE driver simply turns all interrupts *off* ...
> 
> I would think that even if the kernel IDE code had to disable
> interrupts while performing a PIO-mode transfer, as soon as it
> re-enabled interrupts (at the end of the IDE operation), pending
> interrupts would be handled.
> 
> Does one IDE operation (in PIO mode) take so long that the
> serial port buffer overflows before the disk operation is done?

Indeed.

> Or are pending interrupts not all processed before a subsequent
> IDE operation is started?
> 
> 
> > To change this, see "man hdparm", -u option.
> 
> Well, given that the manual page says:
> 
>-u ... Use this feature with caution: some drive/controller
>   combinations do not tolerate the increased I/O latencies
>   possible when this feature is enabled, resulting in massive
>   filesystem corruption.
> 
> I'm not about to try that, since the reason I'm using PIO mode
> in the first place is because I get massive file system corruption
> when I use DMA mode with IDE controllers on my motherboard (Asus
> A7M266-D; AMD 762(?) chipset).

Have you reported this to the kernel IDE maintainers ?

> 
> Would setting one of hdparm's sector-count options to a small value
> decrease the length of time interrupts are disabled and reduce the
> chances of problems with serial communication?

I don't know, I try to avoid broken hardware :)

Mike.


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Mega Problem with SATA / 2.6.8.* und 2.6.12.*

[news.gmane.org]

Hi NG!

I've got a mega problem with SATA and the above mentioned kernels under 
Debian 3.1. I have installed Debian to a PATA 120GB IBM drive on the onboard 
controller. As well I have a RAID-5 set (software raid) consisting of 4 
samsung sata drives on two pci-controllers with si3112 chipset. Whenever I 
try copying to the raid, linux crashes completely. I have SATA and ext3, xfs 
compiled into the kernel. The crashes occur after certain amounts of data 
have been copied, sometimes the system freezes after 10mb, sometimes after 
1,6gb - it's always different.

Please somebody help me, I'm thru with all my ideas and completely clueless 
what could cause this.

With many thanks in advance,


Chis



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Re: fluxbox's slow startup and neglect of 'startup' file

[phyrster]

On 00:08 Sat 23 Jul , Mr Mike wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 12:09:38 +0800, phyrster wrote:
> 
> > Hi Debianers'
> > 
> > My configuration is  kdm+fluxbox in utf-8 environment on Sarge.
> > 
> > I have already known that fluxbox's slow start is due to its incompatibility
> > with utf8 environment. And the easiest solution I can see is to export a
> > temporary locale to fluxbox when it starts and the restore a the default
> > locale. 
> > 
> > The question is how to do this when I am using kdm to manage graphic login? 
> 
> Unfortunately, I have to let someone else take a crack at this one..
> 
> 
> > 
> > Another problem is fluxbox refuses to source .fluxbox/startup file when
> > loading. I don't know what's wrong. Here is a copy of my startup file:
> 
> Change your fluxbox.desktop to /usr/bin/startfluxbox 


I don't have fluxbox.desktop, could you specify on this?


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Mega Problem mit SATA / 2.6.8.* und 2.6.12.*

[news.gmane.org]

Hallo NG,

Habe ein Riesenproblem mit SATA (si3112): Mein System schmiert beim Kopieren
aufs SATA-Raid5 (je zwei Platten an zwei Controllern als SW-Raid-Verbund)
gnadenlos nach einer Weile ab. Manchmal werden 800Mb kopiert, manchmal nur
10.

Kann mir jemand helfen? Bin völlig überfordert.

Vielen Dank im Voraus,

Grüsse,


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Re: run cyrreconstruct -m as user cyrus

[Greg Maruszeczka]

Peter Teunissen wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> 
> I've messed up my cyrus mailbox file and need to run cyrreconstruct - m
> to attempt repair. cyrreconstruct needs to be run as user cyrus 
> however, but I cannot su to cyrus, even after adding an password to 
> user cyrus with usermod -p.
> 
> I've delved into rute, googled but nothing gives me a good direction.
> 
> What do I need to do to be able to run cyrreconstruct as user cyrus?
> 
> 

Make sure you're logged in as root, then:

# su cyrus

If you need to script it look into the -c switch for su (`man su`).

# su cyrus -c " "

If you're still having trouble tell us the exact steps you're taking,
including any error messages or pertinent log entries.

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Mega Problem with SATA / 2.6.8.* und 2.6.12.*

[news.gmane.org]

Hi NG!

I've got a mega problem with SATA and the above mentioned kernels under
Debian 3.1. I have installed Debian to a PATA 120GB IBM drive on the onboard
controller. As well I have a RAID-5 set (software raid) consisting of 4
samsung sata drives on two pci-controllers with si3112 chipset. Whenever I
try copying to the raid, linux crashes completely. I have SATA and ext3, xfs
compiled into the kernel. The crashes occur after certain amounts of data
have been copied, sometimes the system freezes after 10mb, sometimes after
1,6gb - it's always different.

Please somebody help me, I'm thru with all my ideas and completely clueless
what could cause this.

With many thanks in advance,


Chis



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Re: Can kdm 'source' ~/.xinitrc ?

[Nate Bargmann]

Ahhh, excellent explanation.  I understand now and it works!.

Thank you very much!

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mutt crashes

[Joachim Fahnenmüller]

Hi everybody,

I have a fresh install of debian testing.
Mutt crashes every time I try to write a new message (or reply to one) 
at the moment when it should open the editor. No error message, it just 
freezes.

BTW, when I run mutt as root it works ok.
Any ideas?

TIA

Joachim Fahnenmüller


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Aspell British

[Steve Å]

Hello:

I'm having a devil of a time with Aspell. When I first installed Sarge (Testing
over 2 years ago), I had Aspell replace Ispell. It took some work at the time to
get Aspell spell checking for British English. 

Over the past few weeks, (I think it was when Sarge became Stable) an update
must have changed my default -- I'm now spell checking for American English.

Obviously, I wasn't paying close attention to the messages aptitude was giving
me. 8(

I've spent time searching the archives, and checking that the needed
dictionaries are present, but I can't see the forest for the trees. 

Any suggestions as to how to fix this ?  Thanks.

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Re: Aspell British

[Bob Proulx]

Steve Å wrote:
> Obviously, I wasn't paying close attention to the messages aptitude
> was giving me. 8(

:-)

> I've spent time searching the archives, and checking that the needed
> dictionaries are present, but I can't see the forest for the trees. 
> 
> Any suggestions as to how to fix this ?  Thanks.

I assume you have these two packages installed?

  apt-get install ibritish wbritish

Reading:

  /usr/share/doc/aspell/README.Debian

Shows an interesting detail about language selection and an error in a
previous package that may have caused you a problem.

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Re: mutt crashes

[Jochen Schulz]

Joachim Fahnenmüller:
> 
> I have a fresh install of debian testing.
> Mutt crashes every time I try to write a new message (or reply to one) 
> at the moment when it should open the editor. No error message, it just 
> freezes.

I have this behaviour, when my signature generator (signify) is not yet
started. mutt tries to read the signature from ~/.signature and that
file is a fifo that signify writes to. When I write a new mail, vim is
spawned and hangs when trying to read the empty fifo.

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Re: why do PPP connections die with heavy disk usage?

[Mike Fedyk]

Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote:

  On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 14:04 -0400, Daniel B. wrote:
  
  
Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote:



  In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Daniel B. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  
  
Does anyone know why Linux can't seem to maintain a diald-dialed serial
PPP connection while performing lots of disk I/O, especially on a PIO-mode
IDE disk?

  
  
Because the IDE driver turns off interrupt processing completely
when issuing commands to / reading data from the drive. With DMA,
you don't really notice, in PIO mode, you do ..
  

If it turns off interrupt processing completely, how would, say,
keyboard and timer interrupts get processed?  Wouldn't I be seeing
keystrokes getting dropped occasionally?

  
  
It blocks them, ofcourse. The hardware still sets the interrupt bit.

  
  
Do you mean that interrupt handling is _suspended_ when writing
to/reading from the drive (that is, other interrupts aren't ignored
entirely; just deferred)?

  
  
Same difference :)

  
  



  
Does the kernel not handle serial port interrupts with higher priority
than disk interrupts to make sure that serial data doesn't overrun
buffers?

  
  
Because the IDE driver simply turns all interrupts *off* ...
  

I would think that even if the kernel IDE code had to disable
interrupts while performing a PIO-mode transfer, as soon as it
re-enabled interrupts (at the end of the IDE operation), pending
interrupts would be handled.

Does one IDE operation (in PIO mode) take so long that the
serial port buffer overflows before the disk operation is done?

  
  
Indeed.
  

Are you using a 2.4 or 2.6 kernel?

In the 2.6 kernel, each interrupt is locked and disabled/enabled
individually to avoid problems like this.

  
  
  
Or are pending interrupts not all processed before a subsequent
IDE operation is started?




  To change this, see "man hdparm", -u option.
  

Well, given that the manual page says:

   -u ... Use this feature with caution: some drive/controller
  combinations do not tolerate the increased I/O latencies
  possible when this feature is enabled, resulting in massive
  filesystem corruption.

I'm not about to try that, since the reason I'm using PIO mode
in the first place is because I get massive file system corruption
when I use DMA mode with IDE controllers on my motherboard (Asus
A7M266-D; AMD 762(?) chipset).

  
  
Have you reported this to the kernel IDE maintainers ?
  

Yes, this needs to be reported and fixed or worked around.

Where is your kernel from, and how is it configured?  Does it try to
use dma with your drive automatically, or did you have to force it with
hdparm?  Post the output from lspci also.

  
  
  
Would setting one of hdparm's sector-count options to a small value
decrease the length of time interrupts are disabled and reduce the
chances of problems with serial communication?

  
  
I don't know, I try to avoid broken hardware :)

Mike.
  

Many times, it is broken drivers.

Mike

Re: Mega Problem with SATA / 2.6.8.* und 2.6.12.*

[Mike Fedyk]

news.gmane.org wrote:


Hi NG!

I've got a mega problem with SATA and the above mentioned kernels under
Debian 3.1. I have installed Debian to a PATA 120GB IBM drive on the onboard
controller. As well I have a RAID-5 set (software raid) consisting of 4
samsung sata drives on two pci-controllers with si3112 chipset. Whenever I
 

Get rid of those si3112 based cards, and get a good promise, via or 
3raid based card.


Also, get a 4 port card.  In disaster recovery (replacing a failed 
drive) you don't want to accidentally replace the wrong drive.  And it 
is easy to do that when the drive order can change just by reordering 
the module loading.


Mike


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Re: Re: Sharing the internet connection with XP

[Björn Johansson]

Hello!

I still haven't managed to get these 2 computers 
sharing the internet connection.

Any new ideas? :-/

Greetings
Björn

Re: mutt crashes

[Elimar Riesebieter]

On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 the mental interface of
Joachim Fahnenmüller told:

> Hi everybody,
> 
> I have a fresh install of debian testing.  Mutt crashes every time
> I try to write a new message (or reply to one) at the moment when
> it should open the editor. No error message, it just freezes.
> BTW, when I run mutt as root it works ok.  Any ideas?

mutt creates it's temporarely used files in /tmp by default. Is /tmp
write/readable for your users?

Elimar


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cahnging debian version

[Paolo Pantaleo]

I read on "Debian Reference" how you can update a debian installation
along the path:
stable->testing->unstable
but, it is not clear: if i want to turn a stable version in a testing version
1) can i do it?
2) how can i do it?

Thnx
PAolo

Re: cahnging debian version

[Mark Lijftogt]

On Sun, 2005-07-24 at 20:15 +0200, Paolo Pantaleo wrote:
> I read on "Debian Reference" how you can update a debian installation
> along the path:
> stable->testing->unstable
> but, it is not clear: if i want to turn a stable version in a testing version
> 1) can i do it?
> 2) how can i do it?

I wouldn't call it a update, upgrade, but a version change.

Take a look at the apt manual, it explains how apt works.
/etc/apt/sources.list is the location where you should change anything
to head to unstable.

Check the aptitude/apt-get instructions/manual even further.

aptitiude update && aptitude dist-upgrade

pay attention, and do some reading before you start!

Good luck,

 ,Mark


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Re: cahnging debian version

[Alan Ianson]

On Sun July 24 2005 11:15 am, Paolo Pantaleo wrote:
> I read on "Debian Reference" how you can update a debian installation
> along the path:
> stable->testing->unstable
> but, it is not clear: if i want to turn a stable version in a testing
> version

> 1) can i do it? 

yes.

> 2) how can i do it?

Edit /etc/apt/sources.list and change "stable main" to "testing main" or 
"unstable main". Then run "apt-get update" and "apt-get dist-upgrade". Think 
twice before going to testing (leading edge) or unstable (bleeding edge), 
once upgraded you can't go back to stable without reinstalling. Also comment 
out the security.debian.org line from sources.list. There are no security 
updates in testing or unstable. There are updates but they take time (more so 
for testing) and they don't come from the security team.


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Re: Debian and wireless network cards

[Nate Duehr]

Thomas H. George wrote:


Others may have better advice - it was frustrating trying to find the
latest and best information.


Mostly the manufacturer's fault.  When there's four devices called 
"[model number]" and no version numbers, who's to blame for all the 
confusion?


Or perhaps they enjoy confusing customers who buy their products based 
on the product name.


Still looking for a hardware vendor to support that is actively avoiding 
this silliness who also provides ample support to the Linux driver 
writers for their cards.


Nate


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Re: exim4, sa-exim, clamav

[Nate Duehr]

Andy Smith wrote:

On Thu, Jul 21, 2005 at 04:21:48PM +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:


and when I hit R (macro index R "!/usr/bin/sa-learn --sync") my poor
laptop (133Mhz 49M -- don't laugh I got it as a 'brick' for $12.00 NZD)
almost died, killed postgres, a vim session I didn't realise I had open
and 2 bash shells. :-(

I sent a local email as a test and spamd had a fit for about 10sec. I
downloaded 6 emails via fetcmail from my isp and the harddisk had a fit
for about 20mins!! I hate to think what would happen if I d/l 200
messages, which is about normal for a day.



spamassassin uses lots of RAM.  Most content filtering antispam
measures are very heavyweight.  I think you will need to get a
better machine or run your content filtering elsewhere.


Absolutely.

Spamassassin here for 10 users with two users getting a couple hundred 
messages a day keeps an Atlon 2500 with a gig of RAM busy most of the 
day, with load averages hitting 1 occasionally.


SA is a hog.  But a useful hog.  ;-)

Nate


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Re: Good GUI for essid selection?

[Nate Duehr]

Damon Chesser wrote:


I'm perfectly able to script such a thing, but the average
user shouldn't be expected to do so.


Of course not, but the average user does not set this up anyway, the IT geek 
that gives him or her the box does.  


The idea of "someone setting up the box for them" is quaint and 
old-fashioned.  People buy computers and set them up themselves these 
days, for better or for worse.


Nate


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Re: Good GUI for essid selection?

[Stephen R Laniel]

On Sun, Jul 24, 2005 at 01:08:53PM -0600, Nate Duehr wrote:
> The idea of "someone setting up the box for them" is quaint and 
> old-fashioned.  People buy computers and set them up themselves these 
> days, for better or for worse.

I would doubt that. Without any data on hand, I imagine most
people get their computers from their manufacturers and
don't modify them at all.

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Re: cahnging debian version

[Paolo Pantaleo]

2005/7/24, Alan Ianson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> > 2) how can i do it?
> 
> Edit /etc/apt/sources.list and change "stable main" to "testing main" or
> "unstable main". Then run "apt-get update" and "apt-get dist-upgrade". Think
> twice before going to testing (leading edge) or unstable (bleeding edge),
> once upgraded you can't go back to stable without reinstalling. Also comment
> out the security.debian.org line from sources.list. There are no security
> updates in testing or unstable. There are updates but they take time (more so
> for testing) and they don't come from the security team.
> 
> 

Are you sure i cannot go back to stable ?

From 
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-woody.en.html#s-woody-transition

Upgrading a system to the stable, testing, or unstable distribution
may require several steps which must be in the following order:

* Upgrade to Woody (if your system is older than Woody)

* Upgrade to stable

* Upgrade to testing

* Upgrade to unstable

Debian does not support upgrades that skip intermediate releases. 

PAolo

Re: Sharing the internet connection with XP

[Clive Menzies]

On (24/07/05 19:24), Björn Johansson wrote:
> Hello!
> 
> I still haven't managed to get these 2 computers 
> sharing the internet connection.
> Any new ideas? :-/

There is a huge volume of messages on d-u and so it is unlikely that
many people remember what you wrote before and even less likely that
they will search the archives.

It would be helpful if you forward the previous post with any
additional information on what you've tried.

Regards

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dpkg-repackage recreates lost .debs from installed packages

[Dan Jacobson]

Announcing my new script,
http://jidanni.org/comp/debian/dpkg-repackage recreates lost .debs
from installed packages.

(Useful only if we are on an non networked island and want to install
packages onto machine B that exist on machine A, but the .debs are
gone.)


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Re: cahnging debian version

[Jules Dubois]

On Sunday 24 July 2005 12:15, Paolo Pantaleo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
(<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

> I read on "Debian Reference" how you can update a debian installation
> along the path:
> stable->testing->unstable
>
> 1) can i do it? 

Yes.  Before you do, read about security update policies for 'testing'.

> 2) how can i do it?

1) Edit /etc/apt/sources.list
 change sarge (or stable) to etch (testing);
2) Run  aptitude update
3) Run  aptitude upgrade
4) Run  aptitude dist-upgrade

Note: Substitute 'apt-get' for 'aptitude' if desired.  Season to taste.


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Re: cahnging debian version

[Alan Ianson]

On Sun July 24 2005 12:19 pm, Paolo Pantaleo wrote:
> 2005/7/24, Alan Ianson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > 2) how can i do it?
> >
> > Edit /etc/apt/sources.list and change "stable main" to "testing main" or
> > "unstable main". Then run "apt-get update" and "apt-get dist-upgrade".
> > Think twice before going to testing (leading edge) or unstable (bleeding
> > edge), once upgraded you can't go back to stable without reinstalling.
> > Also comment out the security.debian.org line from sources.list. There
> > are no security updates in testing or unstable. There are updates but
> > they take time (more so for testing) and they don't come from the
> > security team.
>
> Are you sure i cannot go back to stable ?

I don't think so, at least not without reinstalling. You can upgrade from 
Woody (old stable) to sarge (current stable) or from stable to testing or 
unstable. But there is no easy way to downgrade.

>
> From
> http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-woody.en.html#s-woody-transi
>tion
>
> Upgrading a system to the stable, testing, or unstable distribution
> may require several steps which must be in the following order:
>
> * Upgrade to Woody (if your system is older than Woody)
>
> * Upgrade to stable
>
> * Upgrade to testing
>
> * Upgrade to unstable
>
> Debian does not support upgrades that skip intermediate releases.
>
> PAolo


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Re: dpkg-repackage recreates lost .debs from installed packages

[Roberto C. Sanchez]

On Mon, Jul 25, 2005 at 02:39:16AM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote:
> Announcing my new script,
> http://jidanni.org/comp/debian/dpkg-repackage recreates lost .debs
> from installed packages.
> 
> (Useful only if we are on an non networked island and want to install
> packages onto machine B that exist on machine A, but the .debs are
> gone.)
> 
> 

How is this different from dpkg-repack?

$ apt-cache show dpkg-repack
Package: dpkg-repack
Priority: optional
Section: admin
Installed-Size: 60
Maintainer: Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Architecture: all
Version: 1.19
Depends: perl, dpkg-dev
Filename: pool/main/d/dpkg-repack/dpkg-repack_1.19_all.deb
Size: 10700
MD5sum: 0c931bcba74c0417d35e76b233472945
Description: puts an unpacked .deb file back together
 dpkg-repack creates a .deb file out of a debian package that has already
 been installed. If any changes have been made to the package while it was
 unpacked (ie, files in /etc were modified), the new package will inherit
 the changes.
 .
 This utility can make it easy to copy packages from one computer to another,
 or to recreate packages that are installed on your system, but no longer
 available elsewhere, or to store the current state of a package before you
 upgrade it.


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Re: dpkg-repackage recreates lost .debs from installed packages

[Hubert Chan]

On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 02:39:16 +0800, Dan Jacobson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

> Announcing my new script,
> http://jidanni.org/comp/debian/dpkg-repackage recreates lost .debs
> from installed packages.

How does this differ from dpkg-repack?

# apt-cache show dpkg-repack
Package: dpkg-repack
Priority: optional
Section: admin
Installed-Size: 60
Maintainer: Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Architecture: all
Version: 1.20
Depends: perl, dpkg-dev
Filename: pool/main/d/dpkg-repack/dpkg-repack_1.20_all.deb
Size: 10758
MD5sum: 601dbdd19da0ebee23774d222e1a1000
Description: puts an unpacked .deb file back together
 dpkg-repack creates a .deb file out of a debian package that has already
 been installed. If any changes have been made to the package while it was
 unpacked (ie, files in /etc were modified), the new package will inherit
 the changes.
 .
 This utility can make it easy to copy packages from one computer to another,
 or to recreate packages that are installed on your system, but no longer
 available elsewhere, or to store the current state of a package before you
 upgrade it.

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Re: Aspell British

[Steve Å]

On Sun, Jul 24, 2005 at 10:18:53AM -0600 or thereabouts, Bob Proulx wrote:
> Steve Å wrote:
> > Obviously, I wasn't paying close attention to the messages aptitude
> > was giving me. 8(
> 
> :-)
> 
> > I've spent time searching the archives, and checking that the needed
> > dictionaries are present, but I can't see the forest for the trees. 
> > 
> > Any suggestions as to how to fix this ?  Thanks.
> 
> I assume you have these two packages installed?
> 
>   apt-get install ibritish wbritish

Yes. 'aptitude search ibritish wbritish'

i   ibritish- A British English dictionary

i A wbritish- British English dictionary words

p   wbritish-large  - British English dictionary words

p   wbritish-small  - British English dictionary words


> Reading:
> 
>   /usr/share/doc/aspell/README.Debian
> 
> Shows an interesting detail about language selection and an error in a
> previous package that may have caused you a problem.

Well, I haven't had any luck with any of the commands to change the default
dictionary. I have everything that is suggested I need installed. For some
reason I don't have a default conf file anywhere though. Strange -- I'll keep
banging away, until I find a solution.

One would think that the dictionary would be the default of the locale
automatically, with minimal user interaction needed. 

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New to Debian (Peter): Problem with resolution, sound, installing StarOffice 5.2

[Hans-Peter Sulzer]

Hi!

I have just installed Debian Sarge (stable) on my notebook
(Acer Aspire 1363 WLMi, with a Sempron Mobile, an
Nvidia 5200 go Graphic – no shared mem but a real graphic).

It is running :-)

When installing, there was no resolution to choose, when
configuring X11, which matches the native resolution
of my notebook (1280x800), so I have configured a few
others (smaller), the highest 1024x768, 24 bit). How
may I set the X11 resolution to 1280x800? (1)

At first, the sound was functioning, in both KDE and
Gnome (BTW, are there more power full GUIs than these
two? I love the WPS of OS/2, is there something comparable
for Linux). Then I did something in GNOME (something in
Sound there was a checkbox Sound Server – I can't now
look at it, as I write this message from windows on
the same Notebook). Where can I look to solve this
problem. (2)

It would be better, to write my messages under Debian
of course, therefore I want to install StarOffice 5.2
which has a Newsreader (no more included in newer
versions of OpenOffice/StarOffice) – sorry I don't
want to use another one, I have to learn a lot of
other things and the one of 5.2 works fine for me.
Has anyone installed StarOffice 5.2. May there
be any problems when doing it? (I'm afraid, it
won't have a Debian package) (3)

I'm not completely new to Debian, cause on another
PC I have installed Knoppix to hard disk, and even
have compiled and installed a Sinclair QL emulator in
it (QL is the computer Linus used, before he bought
the famous 386-PC). I. e. I know the most important
commands (ls, cp, ...) and have even a little
knowledge of shell scripting. And I have the new
book of Martin F. Krafft, "The Debian System".

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XMMS errors persist in Xorg !!

[David Baron]

Message: device: default
Message: fmt 5, channels: 2
Gdk-ERROR **: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)
  serial 205 error_code 8 request_code 2 minor_code 0

Running a backport Xorg, this error did not occur so ... the problem is in 
Debian carried over from Xfree. So, let's fix it :-)


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Re: Aspell British

[Brian Nelson]

Steve Å <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I'm having a devil of a time with Aspell. When I first installed Sarge
> (Testing over 2 years ago), I had Aspell replace Ispell. It took some
> work at the time to get Aspell spell checking for British English.
>
> Over the past few weeks, (I think it was when Sarge became Stable) an
> update must have changed my default -- I'm now spell checking for
> American English.

By default, aspell chooses the dictionary variant based on the
LC_MESSAGES variable, and if that's not set, LANG.  A setting of "en_GB"
would be appropriate for you.

Otherwise, you can specify the dictionary directly with:

aspell -l en_GB check [...]

Also see the manual section:

5.2 How Aspell Selects an Appropriate Dictionary

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Re: Aspell British

[Brian Nelson]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Proulx) writes:

> Steve Å wrote:
>> Obviously, I wasn't paying close attention to the messages aptitude
>> was giving me. 8(
>
> :-)
>
>> I've spent time searching the archives, and checking that the needed
>> dictionaries are present, but I can't see the forest for the trees. 
>> 
>> Any suggestions as to how to fix this ?  Thanks.
>
> I assume you have these two packages installed?
>
>   apt-get install ibritish wbritish

Aspell doesn't use either of those--it uses "aspell-en".

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Re: cahnging debian version

[Hendrik Boom]

On Sun, Jul 24, 2005 at 09:19:38PM +0200, Paolo Pantaleo wrote:
> 2005/7/24, Alan Ianson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> > > 2) how can i do it?
> > 
> > Edit /etc/apt/sources.list and change "stable main" to "testing main" or
> > "unstable main". Then run "apt-get update" and "apt-get dist-upgrade". Think
> > twice before going to testing (leading edge) or unstable (bleeding edge),
> > once upgraded you can't go back to stable without reinstalling. Also comment
> > out the security.debian.org line from sources.list. There are no security
> > updates in testing or unstable. There are updates but they take time (more 
> > so
> > for testing) and they don't come from the security team.
> > 
> > 
> 
> Are you sure i cannot go back to stable ?

If you let the package manager see that there's testing packages available
to it, it will see that they are newer than the ones it already has installed
and so updates them.  But on a testing system, if you change sources,list to
indicate there are stable packages available, it will quickly realize they
have lower version numbers than the ones already installed, and so it will
not update anything.

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Re: cahnging debian version

[michael]

Quoting Alan Ianson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


> security team.


Are you sure i cannot go back to stable ?


I don't think so, at least not without reinstalling. You can upgrade from
Woody (old stable) to sarge (current stable) or from stable to testing or
unstable. But there is no easy way to downgrade.



Yes, you can downgrade. You use the pinning fuction of apt to set negative
pin numbers on packages.

http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Debian/downgrade.html

Cheers,
Mike


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Re: Sharing the internet connection with XP

[Bill Day]

The easiest way is of course via boradband and witha  routered/firewall of a 
modem and s ingle network car in each computer.

Thene there is always the second way on comp with 2 nics.  useing eth0 for the 
primary net connection and using eth1 for the lan.  Some simple iptables 
rules will get you going with netmask..  I prefer the first option, but have 
used the second multiple times.

Took a little bit to find this as theyr etructured their site but I hope it 
helps you out.

http://www.viperlair.com/articles/archive/software/lnx_fw.shtml

On Sunday July 24 2005 3:23 pm, Clive Menzies wrote:
> On (24/07/05 19:24), Björn Johansson wrote:
> > Hello!
> >
> > I still haven't managed to get these 2 computers
> > sharing the internet connection.
> > Any new ideas? :-/
>
> There is a huge volume of messages on d-u and so it is unlikely that
> many people remember what you wrote before and even less likely that
> they will search the archives.
>
> It would be helpful if you forward the previous post with any
> additional information on what you've tried.
>
> Regards
>
> Clive
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where do they go?

[Rick Pasotto]

When I put a FlashMemory card from my digital camera in my usb
cardreader, a 'Warning' pops up asking: "Import photos from device?
There are photos on the inserted media. Would you like to import these
photographs into your album?" If I click on 'Import Photos' where do
they go? Do I need to have already created some special directory for
them?

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Re: Good GUI for essid selection?

[Damon Chesser]

On Sunday 24 July 2005 14:08, Nate Duehr wrote:
> Damon Chesser wrote:
> >>I'm perfectly able to script such a thing, but the average
> >>user shouldn't be expected to do so.
> >
> > Of course not, but the average user does not set this up anyway, the IT
> > geek that gives him or her the box does.
>
> The idea of "someone setting up the box for them" is quaint and
> old-fashioned. 

Tell that to the hundreds of Sales men and Office workers, all of which I set 
up their boxes.  Not to even list all the times I told them how to set up 
their private home networks with wireless (set up like work, so I don't have 
to play with any settings).  I think what most people forget is that most 
computers sold are NOT to private people but to business and those folks 
almost never set up their own.

> People buy computers and set them up themselves these 
> days, for better or for worse.
(and promptly corner me at work and ask me how to set up the wireless so their 
work laptop will work at home).  Just my experience, that is no guarantee of 
truth but only what I have found.  Your experience could be different. 
>
> Nate

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Re: Sharing the internet connection with XP

[Andrew Sackville-West]

I didn't review this before posting, but:

http://en.tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/index.html

helped me a whole lot. its not Deb specific, but should work. When I was 
using this setup it worked great, so long as the main computer was on... ;-)

.

simplest answer? buy a router... ;)

good luck.

A

Björn Johansson wrote:


Hello!

I still haven't managed to get these 2 computers sharing the internet 
connection.

Any new ideas? :-/

Greetings
Björn





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listbugs: how to avoid grave bugs

[michael]

As suggested on D-U recently, I've installed apt-listbugs. I now get
listing of potentially serious bugs related to packages about to be
installed. eg for 'unstable' today I get:

Retrieving bug reports... Done
grave bugs of imagemagick (6:6.2.3.1-1 -> 6:6.2.3.4-1) 
 #315013 - display command fails with "error while loading
shared libraries"
grave bugs of libopencdk8 (0.5.5-10 -> 0.5.7-2) 
 #318490 - libopencdk8: shared lib dropped?
grave bugs of fakeroot (1.4.1 -> 1.4.2) 
 #316307 - fakeroot: fakeroot execs interactive /bin/sh
 #316308 - fakeroot scripts do not invoke shell correctly
grave bugs of zlib1g (1:1.2.2-8 -> 1:1.2.3-1) 
 #317133 - zlib1g: [CAN-2005-2096] buffer overflow in
decompressor
grave bugs of xlibs (4.3.0.dfsg.1-14 -> 6.8.2.dfsg.1-4) 
 #309143 - xlibs: libxpm4's new s_popen() function is insecure
garbage
grave bugs of imagemagick (6:6.2.3.1-1 -> 6:6.2.3.4-1) 
 #268357 - imagemagick: Buffer overflows in several coders
(fixed in unstable).
 #302093 - CAN-2005-0762: buffer overflow, code execution
grave bugs of kernel-package (9.001 -> 9.003) 
 #319543 - new kernel-package creates ridiculous symlinks
in /boot
Summary:
 xlibs(1 bug), imagemagick(3 bugs), libopencdk8(1 bug),
fakeroot(2 bugs), kernel-package(1 bug), zlib1g(1 bug)
Are you sure you want to install/upgrade the above packages?
[Y/n/?/...]  ?


I wish to just install those without listed bugs (ie I can wait until
said bugs are fixed) so am I correct in thinking I just do option 'p'
then rerun 'apt get upgrade'? But then, when would I get to know when
the bugs have been fixed so it's okay to install them (presuming having
to edit /etc/apt/preferences to unpin said packages)? I've looked for a
'howTo' on this but failed to find the solution but if anybody has this
info to hand I'll be most welcome.

TIA,
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Can't start OpenOffice

[Bernard Fay]

Hello all,

When I try to start openoffice, I can see on the panel "Starting
OpenOffice" but it eventually close after a few seconds.  If I try to
start it through a terminal, it shows the following message: "Xlib:
sequence lost (0x1 > 0x69) in reply type 0x0!".  The message appears
repeatedly in OOo does not start. 

Does someone know what it this problem?

Thanks,

Bernard




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Re: listbugs: how to avoid grave bugs

[Paul Scott]

michael wrote:


As suggested on D-U recently, I've installed apt-listbugs. I now get
listing of potentially serious bugs related to packages about to be
installed. eg for 'unstable' today I get:
   
   Retrieving bug reports... Done

   grave bugs of imagemagick (6:6.2.3.1-1 -> 6:6.2.3.4-1) 
#315013 - display command fails with "error while loading
   shared libraries"
 


(snip)


   grave bugs of xlibs (4.3.0.dfsg.1-14 -> 6.8.2.dfsg.1-4) 
#309143 - xlibs: libxpm4's new s_popen() function is insecure
   garbage
 


(snip)


   Summary:
xlibs(1 bug), imagemagick(3 bugs), libopencdk8(1 bug),
   fakeroot(2 bugs), kernel-package(1 bug), zlib1g(1 bug)
   Are you sure you want to install/upgrade the above packages?
   [Y/n/?/...]  ?
   


I wish to just install those without listed bugs (ie I can wait until
said bugs are fixed) so am I correct in thinking I just do option 'p'
then rerun 'apt get upgrade'? But then, when would I get to know when
the bugs have been fixed so it's okay to install them (presuming having
to edit /etc/apt/preferences to unpin said packages)? I've looked for a
'howTo' on this but failed to find the solution but if anybody has this
info to hand I'll be most welcome.
 

Maybe not the answer you were looking for but this is a good reason to 
use aptitude.  I would write down the problem packages (the ones that 
say [open], not the ones that say [done]), answer the question and then 
change each problem package to hold.  Then I would restart the upgrade.


Paul Scott


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Re: cahnging debian version

[Brian Nelson]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> Quoting Alan Ianson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
 > security team.
>>>
>>> Are you sure i cannot go back to stable ?
>>
>> I don't think so, at least not without reinstalling. You can upgrade
> from
>> Woody (old stable) to sarge (current stable) or from stable to testing
> or
>> unstable. But there is no easy way to downgrade.
>>
>
> Yes, you can downgrade. You use the pinning fuction of apt to set
> negative
> pin numbers on packages.
>
> http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Debian/downgrade.html

It's also completely unsupported and fairly likely to break your
system...

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Re: cahnging debian version

[Hendrik Boom]

On Sun, Jul 24, 2005 at 04:30:11PM -0700, Brian Nelson wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> > Quoting Alan Ianson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
>  > security team.
> >>>
> >>> Are you sure i cannot go back to stable ?
> >>
> >> I don't think so, at least not without reinstalling. You can upgrade
> > from
> >> Woody (old stable) to sarge (current stable) or from stable to testing
> > or
> >> unstable. But there is no easy way to downgrade.
> >>
> >
> > Yes, you can downgrade. You use the pinning fuction of apt to set
> > negative
> > pin numbers on packages.
> >
> > http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Debian/downgrade.html
> 
> It's also completely unsupported and fairly likely to break your
> system...
> 

And given the number of packages he'd have to do it to,
not easy.

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Re: LVM and Windows

[Hendrik Boom]

On Sat, Jul 23, 2005 at 11:26:58PM -0400, Wayne Topa wrote:
> Hendrik Boom([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
> > On Sat, Jul 23, 2005 at 08:43:25PM +0200, mess-mate wrote:
> > > Hendrik Boom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > | Now that I've discovered what LVM does, I've resolved to start
> > > | migrating my Linux systems to it.  Linux partitions look easy.
> > > | But I'd really like to start using it for *all* my partitions.  
> > > | My machine also has a bunch lf FAT partitions used
> > > | when I boot Windows, and accessible when I boot Linux.
> > > | Can LVM also handle Windows?
> > > | 
> > > | That is (I suppose) Does LVM get activated early enough in the
> > > | boot procedure that Windows just sees its partitions instead
> > > | of the physical ones?
> > > | 
> > > | ABout ten years ago, there were so-called disk managers that
> > > | replaced BIOS calls so that large disks could be used
> > > | ancient systems.  Might LVM be capable of operating like this?
> > > | 
> > > Look at EVM instead of LVM for this.
> > > Remember, your /boot partit can't be included for LVM. I don't know
> > > about it for EVM.
> > 
> > There turn out to be a *lot* of things with the initials EVM.
> > Presumably the one you intend is there somewhere amid the pages
> > about enterprise value management and electronic voting machines
> > (to mention just a few) but I couldn't find it.
> 
> apt-cache search emvms
> evms - Enterprise Volume Management System (core)
> 
> I think thats the IBM contribution to Linux

Thanks.  Not everything I was looking for, but it looks *quite* useful.
I found online documentation with google.  It seems to be able to
enlarge and contract Windows file-systems, but it can expand them only
it contiguous free space is available.  So it doesn't sneak in
under the radar and persuade Windows that its nice, contiguous
partition is actually scattered all over the disk.  Its kernel patch
does seem to be able to tell Linux this, though

It contains equivalent functionality to LVM and more.
It makes me wonder whether it actually uses LVM, or has an independent
implementation.

-- hendrik

> 
> Wayne
> -- 
> The Queue Principle: The longer you wait in line, the greater the
> likelihood that you are standing in the wrong line.

I had another of these:  Most people show up when most people show up,
so there is a heightened probability that the line will be extra long.

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Re: cahnging debian version

[Mike Fedyk]

Hendrik Boom wrote:

  On Sun, Jul 24, 2005 at 04:30:11PM -0700, Brian Nelson wrote:
  
  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:



  Quoting Alan Ianson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

  
  

  

  security team.
  

  
  Are you sure i cannot go back to stable ?
  

I don't think so, at least not without reinstalling. You can upgrade

  
  from
  
  
Woody (old stable) to sarge (current stable) or from stable to testing

  
  or
  
  
unstable. But there is no easy way to downgrade.


  
  Yes, you can downgrade. You use the pinning fuction of apt to set
negative
pin numbers on packages.

http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Debian/downgrade.html
  

It's also completely unsupported and fairly likely to break your
system...


  
  
And given the number of packages he'd have to do it to,
not easy.
  

Actually these lines in /etc/apt/preferences would downgrade an
unstable system to testing:

package: *
pin: release a=unstable
Pin-Priority: 711

package: *
pin: release o=Debian
Pin-Priority: 7221

I have done it with a few packages, but never with more than 15
packages or so.

That being said, if you are not on a critical system, and are willing
to learn how to fix things if they break, it's a great way to get
started. ;)

Re: where do they go?

[Ron Johnson]

On Sun, 2005-07-24 at 18:52 -0400, Rick Pasotto wrote:
> When I put a FlashMemory card from my digital camera in my usb
> cardreader, a 'Warning' pops up asking: "Import photos from device?
> There are photos on the inserted media. Would you like to import these
> photographs into your album?" If I click on 'Import Photos' where do
> they go? Do I need to have already created some special directory for
> them?

You should be able to specify where you want them to go.

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apt-move stable[/-]updates problem

[W M Brelsford]

I've been using "apt-move update" to populate a local hierarchy for use
by my other machines via nfs:

deb file:/n/di/var/debian stable main contrib non-free
deb file:/n/di/var/debian stable/updates main contrib non-free

Since the sarge release, however, the security updates seem to be
creating/using the directory /var/debian/.apt-move/dists/stable-updates
(rather than .../stable/updates?).  And /var/debian/dists/stable
contains both updates/main/binary-i386/Release and
updates/updates/main/binary-i386/Release etc.  The updated packages, of
course, are not found by apt-get on the other machines.

Suggestions?

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Re: where do they go?

[Rick Pasotto]

On Sun, Jul 24, 2005 at 07:56:47PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On Sun, 2005-07-24 at 18:52 -0400, Rick Pasotto wrote:
> > When I put a FlashMemory card from my digital camera in my usb
> > cardreader, a 'Warning' pops up asking: "Import photos from device?
> > There are photos on the inserted media. Would you like to import these
> > photographs into your album?" If I click on 'Import Photos' where do
> > they go? Do I need to have already created some special directory for
> > them?
> 
> You should be able to specify where you want them to go.

Really? Where and when do I do that? Certainly I *should* be able to
but if it doesn't ask me, if I don't even know what program is running, 
HOW CAN I?

If you don't *KNOW* why do you bother replying with such idiocy?

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Re: where do they go?

[David P James]

On Sun 24 July 2005 18:52, Rick Pasotto wrote:
> When I put a FlashMemory card from my digital camera in my usb
> cardreader, a 'Warning' pops up asking: "Import photos from device?
> There are photos on the inserted media. Would you like to import
> these photographs into your album?" If I click on 'Import Photos'
> where do they go? Do I need to have already created some special
> directory for them?

I've never seen this in Linux but it is reminiscent of Windows XP... At 
any rate do you have any idea what program is doing this?
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Re: where do they go?

[Rick Pasotto]

On Sun, Jul 24, 2005 at 09:33:43PM -0400, David P James wrote:
> On Sun 24 July 2005 18:52, Rick Pasotto wrote:
> > When I put a FlashMemory card from my digital camera in my usb
> > cardreader, a 'Warning' pops up asking: "Import photos from device?
> > There are photos on the inserted media. Would you like to import
> > these photographs into your album?" If I click on 'Import Photos'
> > where do they go? Do I need to have already created some special
> > directory for them?
> 
> I've never seen this in Linux but it is reminiscent of Windows XP... At 
> any rate do you have any idea what program is doing this?

No. If I did I would have worded the question differently.

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Re: where do they go?

[Alex Marz]

> No. If I did I would have worded the question differently.

Then perhaps you should find a different application and install it such
as gPhoto2

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Re: where do they go?

[Rick Pasotto]

On Sun, Jul 24, 2005 at 09:53:50PM -0400, Alex Marz wrote:
> 
> > No. If I did I would have worded the question differently.
> 
> Then perhaps you should find a different application and install it such
> as gPhoto2

In order to use a *different* application I'd have to know what the
*current* application is. As I said, I don't.

My understanding is that gPhoto2 is for attaching the camera itself via
usb to the computer. That's not what I'm doing.

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Re: Numlock at startup?

[Eric P]

I learned how to set this up in the latest (4th) issue of
www.tuxmagazine.com  (it's free).

The section is called "Q&A w/Mango".  Check pg. 15.

Eric P

Josh wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 10:11:29 -0700 (PDT)
> Edward Dunagin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
>>my bios has a setting for the numlock key.
> 
> 
> mine does as well and even if I set it to on, at the text login it ends
> up being off.
> 


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PHP syntax hightlight plugin for emacs

[Lian Liming]

Hi all,
    I am using debian/unstable, and find the emacs
doesn't support php syntax highlight by default. So I used apt tool to
search emacs-related package but got no results for the emacs plugin of
php. I wonder if there are such kinds of php plugin for emacs on
Debian. Or I should install it manually?
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Re: apt-move stable[/-]updates problem

[Mike Fedyk]

W M Brelsford wrote:


I've been using "apt-move update" to populate a local hierarchy for use
by my other machines via nfs:

deb file:/n/di/var/debian stable main contrib non-free
deb file:/n/di/var/debian stable/updates main contrib non-free

Since the sarge release, however, the security updates seem to be
creating/using the directory /var/debian/.apt-move/dists/stable-updates
(rather than .../stable/updates?).  And /var/debian/dists/stable
contains both updates/main/binary-i386/Release and
updates/updates/main/binary-i386/Release etc.  The updated packages, of
course, are not found by apt-get on the other machines.
 


Why not just change the line to:

deb file:/n/di/var/debian stable-updates main contrib non-free



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Re: apt-move stable[/-]updates problem

[W M Brelsford]

> W M Brelsford wrote:
> 
> >I've been using "apt-move update" to populate a local hierarchy for use
> >by my other machines via nfs:
> >
> > deb file:/n/di/var/debian stable main contrib non-free
> > deb file:/n/di/var/debian stable/updates main contrib non-free
> >
> >Since the sarge release, however, the security updates seem to be
> >creating/using the directory /var/debian/.apt-move/dists/stable-updates
> >(rather than .../stable/updates?).  And /var/debian/dists/stable
> >contains both updates/main/binary-i386/Release and
> >updates/updates/main/binary-i386/Release etc.  The updated packages, of
> >course, are not found by apt-get on the other machines.
> > 
> >
> Why not just change the line to:
> 
> deb file:/n/di/var/debian stable-updates main contrib non-free

Doesn't work .. I get

Err file: stable-updates/main Packages
  File not found

etc.  There's no /var/debian/dists/stable-updates -- only
/var/debian/dists/stable.

Bill


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Re: where do they go?

[Ron Johnson]

On Sun, 2005-07-24 at 21:29 -0400, Rick Pasotto wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 24, 2005 at 07:56:47PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > On Sun, 2005-07-24 at 18:52 -0400, Rick Pasotto wrote:
> > > When I put a FlashMemory card from my digital camera in my usb
> > > cardreader, a 'Warning' pops up asking: "Import photos from device?
> > > There are photos on the inserted media. Would you like to import these
> > > photographs into your album?" If I click on 'Import Photos' where do
> > > they go? Do I need to have already created some special directory for
> > > them?
> > 
> > You should be able to specify where you want them to go.
> 
> Really? Where and when do I do that? Certainly I *should* be able to
> but if it doesn't ask me, if I don't even know what program is running, 
> HOW CAN I?
> 
> If you don't *KNOW* why do you bother replying with such idiocy?

Because when I attached my camera to my PC, a similar window popped
up, and I *did* specify where I wanted them put.

Unfortunately, it's been a while, so I don't remember how I did it,
and there are no pics in my camera, so I can't test it.

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Re: where do they go?

[Rick Pasotto]

On Sun, Jul 24, 2005 at 10:15:21PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On Sun, 2005-07-24 at 21:29 -0400, Rick Pasotto wrote:
> > On Sun, Jul 24, 2005 at 07:56:47PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > > On Sun, 2005-07-24 at 18:52 -0400, Rick Pasotto wrote:
> > > > When I put a FlashMemory card from my digital camera in my usb
> > > > cardreader, a 'Warning' pops up asking: "Import photos from device?
> > > > There are photos on the inserted media. Would you like to import these
> > > > photographs into your album?" If I click on 'Import Photos' where do
> > > > they go? Do I need to have already created some special directory for
> > > > them?
> > > 
> > > You should be able to specify where you want them to go.
> > 
> > Really? Where and when do I do that? Certainly I *should* be able to
> > but if it doesn't ask me, if I don't even know what program is running, 
> > HOW CAN I?
> > 
> > If you don't *KNOW* why do you bother replying with such idiocy?
> 
> Because when I attached my camera to my PC, a similar window popped
> up, and I *did* specify where I wanted them put.
> 
> Unfortunately, it's been a while, so I don't remember how I did it,
> and there are no pics in my camera, so I can't test it.

I did not attach the *camera*. I put a memory card in a card reader.
Whatever may have happened when you attached your camera is utterly
irrelevant.

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Re: where do they go?

[Carl Fink]

On Sun, Jul 24, 2005 at 09:58:46PM -0400, Rick Pasotto wrote:

> In order to use a *different* application I'd have to know what the
> *current* application is. As I said, I don't.

True.  And you can find out using, say, "top", if you want.  Or "ps".

> My understanding is that gPhoto2 is for attaching the camera itself via
> usb to the computer. That's not what I'm doing.

That's correct.  My own card readers just let me mount the cards as
simulated SCSI drives.
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Re: where do they go?

[Ron Johnson]

On Sun, 2005-07-24 at 22:15 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On Sun, 2005-07-24 at 21:29 -0400, Rick Pasotto wrote:
> > On Sun, Jul 24, 2005 at 07:56:47PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > > On Sun, 2005-07-24 at 18:52 -0400, Rick Pasotto wrote:
> > > > When I put a FlashMemory card from my digital camera in my usb
> > > > cardreader, a 'Warning' pops up asking: "Import photos from device?
> > > > There are photos on the inserted media. Would you like to import these
> > > > photographs into your album?" If I click on 'Import Photos' where do
> > > > they go? Do I need to have already created some special directory for
> > > > them?
> > > 
> > > You should be able to specify where you want them to go.
> > 
> > Really? Where and when do I do that? Certainly I *should* be able to
> > but if it doesn't ask me, if I don't even know what program is running, 
> > HOW CAN I?
> > 
> > If you don't *KNOW* why do you bother replying with such idiocy?
> 
> Because when I attached my camera to my PC, a similar window popped
> up, and I *did* specify where I wanted them put.
> 
> Unfortunately, it's been a while, so I don't remember how I did it,
> and there are no pics in my camera, so I can't test it.

OK, I just took a picture and plugged in my camera.

http://members.cox.net/ron.l.johnson/gthumb_import.png

The "Import Photos" window of this "window print" explicitly shows
that you can specify the destination.

Eyeballing the output of "$ ps aux | grep $USER" showed that the
process is "gthumb --import-photos".

GNOME 2.10, Sid

But since you didn't specify *any* relevant details, no one knows
what the hell you're using.

http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

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Re: where do they go?

[Rick Pasotto]

On Sun, Jul 24, 2005 at 10:36:52PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On Sun, 2005-07-24 at 22:15 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > On Sun, 2005-07-24 at 21:29 -0400, Rick Pasotto wrote:
> > > On Sun, Jul 24, 2005 at 07:56:47PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > > > On Sun, 2005-07-24 at 18:52 -0400, Rick Pasotto wrote:
> > > > > When I put a FlashMemory card from my digital camera in my usb
> > > > > cardreader, a 'Warning' pops up asking: "Import photos from
> > > > > device? There are photos on the inserted media. Would you like
> > > > > to import these photographs into your album?" If I click on
> > > > > 'Import Photos' where do they go? Do I need to have already
> > > > > created some special directory for them?
> > > > 
> > > > You should be able to specify where you want them to go.
> > > 
> > > Really? Where and when do I do that? Certainly I *should* be able
> > > to but if it doesn't ask me, if I don't even know what program is
> > > running, HOW CAN I?
> > > 
> > > If you don't *KNOW* why do you bother replying with such idiocy?
> > 
> > Because when I attached my camera to my PC, a similar window popped
> > up, and I *did* specify where I wanted them put.
> > 
> > Unfortunately, it's been a while, so I don't remember how I did it,
> > and there are no pics in my camera, so I can't test it.
> 
> OK, I just took a picture and plugged in my camera.

So what? I inserted a memory card into a card reader. I did *not* plug
in a camera. I don't even have the camera physically here, just the
memory card.

> http://members.cox.net/ron.l.johnson/gthumb_import.png

If what I saw looked anything at all like that I would not have had a
question.

> The "Import Photos" window of this "window print" explicitly shows
> that you can specify the destination.
> 
> Eyeballing the output of "$ ps aux | grep $USER" showed that the
> process is "gthumb --import-photos".

Of course I had checked the ps command and saw *nothing* that looked
relevant.

> GNOME 2.10, Sid
> 
> But since you didn't specify *any* relevant details, no one knows what
> the hell you're using.

I specified *all* the available details, including *all* the text in the
popup window.

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Re: where do they go?

[Rick Pasotto]

On Sun, Jul 24, 2005 at 11:28:26PM -0400, Carl Fink wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 24, 2005 at 09:58:46PM -0400, Rick Pasotto wrote:
> 
> > In order to use a *different* application I'd have to know what the
> > *current* application is. As I said, I don't.
> 
> True.  And you can find out using, say, "top", if you want.  Or "ps".

I looked (again, just to be sure). *Nothing* that looked at all relevant.
I even saved the output with and without the popup and did a diff. Still
nothing.

> > My understanding is that gPhoto2 is for attaching the camera itself
> > via usb to the computer. That's not what I'm doing.
> 
> That's correct.  My own card readers just let me mount the cards as
> simulated SCSI drives.

The card is automounted and shows as "usbdisk" on the desktop.

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Re: where do they go?

[Ron Johnson]

On Sun, 2005-07-24 at 23:51 -0400, Rick Pasotto wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 24, 2005 at 10:36:52PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > On Sun, 2005-07-24 at 22:15 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > > On Sun, 2005-07-24 at 21:29 -0400, Rick Pasotto wrote:
> > > > On Sun, Jul 24, 2005 at 07:56:47PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > > > > On Sun, 2005-07-24 at 18:52 -0400, Rick Pasotto wrote:
[snip]
> 
> > GNOME 2.10, Sid
> > 
> > But since you didn't specify *any* relevant details, no one knows what
> > the hell you're using.
> 
> I specified *all* the available details, including *all* the text in the
> popup window.

KDE or GNOME or something else?

Sid, testing or sarge?

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Re: where do they go?

[Rick Pasotto]

On Sun, Jul 24, 2005 at 11:09:56PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On Sun, 2005-07-24 at 23:51 -0400, Rick Pasotto wrote:
> > On Sun, Jul 24, 2005 at 10:36:52PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > > On Sun, 2005-07-24 at 22:15 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > > > On Sun, 2005-07-24 at 21:29 -0400, Rick Pasotto wrote:
> > > > > On Sun, Jul 24, 2005 at 07:56:47PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > > > > > On Sun, 2005-07-24 at 18:52 -0400, Rick Pasotto wrote:
> [snip]
> > 
> > > GNOME 2.10, Sid
> > > 
> > > But since you didn't specify *any* relevant details, no one knows what
> > > the hell you're using.
> > 
> > I specified *all* the available details, including *all* the text in the
> > popup window.
> 
> KDE or GNOME or something else?
> 
> Sid, testing or sarge?

Gnome testing.

Linux mnr 2.6.11-1-k7 #1 Mon Jun 20 21:26:23 MDT 2005 i686 GNU/Linux

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Re: where do they go?

[Ron Johnson]

On Mon, 2005-07-25 at 00:15 -0400, Rick Pasotto wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 24, 2005 at 11:09:56PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > On Sun, 2005-07-24 at 23:51 -0400, Rick Pasotto wrote:
> > > On Sun, Jul 24, 2005 at 10:36:52PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > > > On Sun, 2005-07-24 at 22:15 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > > > > On Sun, 2005-07-24 at 21:29 -0400, Rick Pasotto wrote:
> > > > > > On Sun, Jul 24, 2005 at 07:56:47PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > > > > > > On Sun, 2005-07-24 at 18:52 -0400, Rick Pasotto wrote:
> > [snip]
> > > 
> > > > GNOME 2.10, Sid
> > > > 
> > > > But since you didn't specify *any* relevant details, no one knows what
> > > > the hell you're using.
> > > 
> > > I specified *all* the available details, including *all* the text in the
> > > popup window.
> > 
> > KDE or GNOME or something else?
> > 
> > Sid, testing or sarge?
> 
> Gnome testing.
> 
> Linux mnr 2.6.11-1-k7 #1 Mon Jun 20 21:26:23 MDT 2005 i686 GNU/Linux

OK.  What version of GNOME is that?  2.8 or 2.10?

Is gnome-volume-manager installed?  What about gthumb?

Can you do a screen print *after* you click on "Import photos"?
(If you don't have a website, cut away everything except that one
window, email it to me, and I'll post it on my site.)

Maybe someone will recognize it.

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Re: VMware

[Robert Kopp]

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> I just checked out VMware's site and it did not list
> Debian as a distro
> that it supports.  Has anyone had any problems with
> this?  The cost is
> $189.00 for the download.  If there is a problem
> with VMware, is there an
> alternative?
> 
Win4Lin, which now supports Windows XP as a guest OS,
is cheaper than that. I think it supports almost any
Linux distro.

And Bill Gates' own Virtual PC 2004 is also cheaper,
but WinXP Pro must be the HOST OS. I've tried it but I
don't like virtual machines as well as multi-boot
native installations.

Crossover Office is inexpensive, and worth a try if
you only need to run a few popular Windows
applications.


Robert "Tim" Kopp
http://analytic.tripod.com/


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Re: VMware

[Matias Rollan]

Hola !

> --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > I just checked out VMware's site and it did not list
> > Debian as a distro
> > that it supports.  Has anyone had any problems with
> > this?  The cost is
> > $189.00 for the download.  If there is a problem
> > with VMware, is there an
> > alternative?
> > 

As long as I remember after wmware there was a bunch of people making
something similar called "plex86".

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-cache search 86 |grep -i virtu
plex86 - PC virtualization program to run x86 OSes [dummy package]

I haven't tried it but it might help you.

Regards,
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Re: where do they go?

[strawks]

On dim, 2005-07-24 at 21:29 -0400, Rick Pasotto wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 24, 2005 at 07:56:47PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > On Sun, 2005-07-24 at 18:52 -0400, Rick Pasotto wrote:
> > > When I put a FlashMemory card from my digital camera in my usb
> > > cardreader, a 'Warning' pops up asking: "Import photos from device?
> > > There are photos on the inserted media. Would you like to import these
> > > photographs into your album?" If I click on 'Import Photos' where do
> > > they go? Do I need to have already created some special directory for
> > > them?
> > 
> > You should be able to specify where you want them to go.
> 
> Really? Where and when do I do that? Certainly I *should* be able to
> but if it doesn't ask me, if I don't even know what program is running, 
> HOW CAN I?
> 
> If you don't *KNOW* why do you bother replying with such idiocy?

Can't you just mount your memory card and copy the file with cp or
nautilus?

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Debian Xorg Crashes Out

[David Baron]

Problem seems to occur when a app wants full-screen mode. Screen goes black 
and escapes such as control/BSP, control/alt-F1, etc., do not work. Only way 
to get out is the reset button. Thank G-d for journaled file systems.

Any fix? xorg.conf generated from XF86Config-4 by installation.


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Re: PHP syntax hightlight plugin for emacs

[[KS]]

Lian Liming wrote:
> Hi all,
> I am using debian/unstable, and find the emacs doesn't support php syntax 
> highlight by default. So I used apt tool to search emacs-related package but 
> got no results for the emacs plugin of php. I wonder if there are such kinds 
> of php plugin for emacs on Debian. Or I should install it manually?
> 
> 

:~$ apt-cache show php-elisp
Package: php-elisp
Priority: optional
Section: text
Installed-Size: 144
Maintainer: Pontus Ullgren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Architecture: all
Version: 1.1.0-2
Depends: emacs21 | xemacs21 | emacsen
Suggests: php4 | php3
Filename: pool/main/p/php-elisp/php-elisp_1.1.0-2_all.deb
Size: 17644
MD5sum: 5f8372578d2bb63e5ad16b61310ddc3a
Description: Emacs support for php files
 Emacs major mode for php supporting syntax highlighting, indentation
 and good integration with html-statements.
Tag: suite::emacs, devel, use::editing, langdevel::php


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Re: where do they go?

[[KS]]

Rick Pasotto wrote:
> 
> 
> The card is automounted and shows as "usbdisk" on the desktop.
> 

You could just go into that "usbdisk" folder and the go into the card's
filesystem folders, find the images folder(s) and then copy off the
images to a local hdd folder. Simple?


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Making spamassassin nice?

[David Baron]

I am running through procmail. I find that this spawns multiple processes and 
they run at normal priority and bog the system. Do I run with nice in the 
procmail file or better to set somewhere (where?) in a conf file?


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