Re: Detailed memory usage

[Marco Calviani]

Hi Robert,
  unfortunately this is not a very user-frienfly program when it comes 
to _detailed_ analysis. I need something that shows clearly which 
programs uses a certain quantity of memory.


Regards,
MC

Robert Vangel wrote:


Marco Calviani wrote:


Hi Debian,
  maybe this is slightly OT, but i would like to know if there exists 
a program to show the real memory usage of every process that is 
running on a certain machine.




It can't be used for remote machines, but look at top.


Thanks,
MC







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Re: is there parted for ntfs ?

[Bill Marcum]

On Sun, Jul 03, 2005 at 11:52:54AM -0700, belahcene abdelkader wrote:
> Hi ,
> I want to resize my ntfs partition, but it is not
> supported by the parted ( on sarge) 

apt(-get|itude) install ntfsprogs


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Re: BT848 TV Tuning Problems

[Marty]

Rudi Starcevic wrote:


kernel: tuner 0-0060: chip found @ 0xc0 (bt878 #0 [sw])



That's not the output 2.6.8 tuner gives, so I grepped through old
kernels and I can't find anything matching that output, although
2.4 comes close. What distro are you using?



I'm using Debian. I installed with the Debian net install disc.
I believe Sarge is now Stable and this version on the net installer
was released early last month.

I'm using the latest Kernel available: 2.6.12


That explains it since the newest I checked was 2.6.10, but please
reply to the list.  I don't have anything more to add but other list
readers may.


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iptables - no TTL target?

[Mart Frauenlob]

Hello,

i'm running a debian sarge with a self compiled  2.4.27 (debian) kernel 
as firewall / router.
What i'm trying to do is to increase the TTL of packets leaving a 
certain subnet by one.

Reading the iptables man page this should be able with something like this:

eris:~# iptables -I FORWARD -i eth1 -o eth0 -s 192.168.13.0/24 -j TTL 
--ttl-inc 1

iptables: No chain/target/match by that name

or:

eris:~# iptables -t mangle -A PREROUTING -i eth1 -s 192.168.13.0/24 -j 
TTL --ttl-inc 1

iptables: No chain/target/match by that name

eris:~# iptables -V
iptables v1.2.11

I'm confused about that error.
I compiled everything regarding netfilter directly into the kernel.
Even booting with the Debian kernel-image 2.4.27 brings the same result.

Any ideas what i missed installing / setting... etc?

Thank you for any help.

Regards
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Install Perl modules the Debian way

[Rakotomandimby Mihamina]

Hi,

What is the Debian way to install Perl modules?
I need to have several modules on my Testing box and then wondered if it
would be better to use cpan installer or any kind of Debian way to do it.
If I have the choice I'd rather follow the Debian way... Is there any?

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can't switch to virtual console

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Hi everyone,
I'm not sure if it's debian or keyboard or X issue,but however...I'll
really appreciate your help.
I'm using Debian testing with 2.6.11-rc3 kernel,every time when the
mashine boot I'm logging into the X server,and after this I can't
switch anymore to the other virtual consoles using Ctrl+Alt+F1...F6.Do
you have any idea is there an option in the kernel configuration I'm
omiting,or anything that I had made wrong?

Thank you in advance.
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Re: xfce 4.2

[Rakotomandimby Mihamina]

Patrick Wiseman wrote:

> There was no invitation to configure the package, so I guess I missed
> something.  Any ideas what I need to do to get xfce 4.2 for real?


Debian XFCE crew is out there:
http://alioth.debian.org/projects/pkg-xfce/

May be you should subscribe to their ML
(http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-xfce-devel) and ask
them.

That's What I did when I used to use XFCE and wanted xfce4.2 while it
was experimental yet.

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woody->sarge: aptitude cache lock problem

[Victor Munoz]

Hello. I'm trying to upgrade the system from woody to sarge. Followed the
steps in the Debian release notes for sarge
(http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/i386/release-notes/index.en.html):
that is:

- edit sources.list
- apt-get update
- aptitude install aptitude
- aptitude install doc-base
- aptitude -f --with-recommends dist-upgrade

At this point I end with the following error:

W:Warning: could not lock the cache file. Opening in read-only mode.

I don't know what to do. All the references I've found on the web to
the same error, say something like 'apt/dpkg/aptitude' is (possible) running
in another process, just kill it and go on, but I can't see any other
related process... 

Any help is appreciated.

Regards,
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Re: can't switch to virtual console

[Thomas Weinbrenner]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I'm not sure if it's debian or keyboard or X issue,but however...I'll
> really appreciate your help.
> I'm using Debian testing with 2.6.11-rc3 kernel,every time when the
> mashine boot I'm logging into the X server,and after this I can't
> switch anymore to the other virtual consoles using Ctrl+Alt+F1...F6.Do
> you have any idea is there an option in the kernel configuration I'm
> omiting,or anything that I had made wrong?

Do you have the DontVTSwitch option in your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4?

,[ man XF86Config-4 ]-
| Option "DontVTSwitch"  "boolean"
|   This disallows the use of the Ctrl+Alt+Fn sequence (where Fn refers to
|   one  of  the  numbered  function keys).   That  sequence  is  normally
|   used to switch to another "virtual terminal" on operating systems that
|   have this feature.  When this option is enabled, that key sequence has
|   no special meaning  and  is passed to clients.  Default: off 
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Re: Detailed memory usage

[kamaraju kusumanchi]

Marco Calviani wrote:


Hi Debian,
  maybe this is slightly OT, but i would like to know if there exists 
a program to show the real memory usage of every process that is 
running on a certain machine.


Thanks,
MC


How about gnome-system-monitor? The "Process Listing" tab should tell 
you all the info.


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Re: Detailed memory usage

[Johann Spies]

On Mon, Jul 04, 2005 at 03:51:35AM -0400, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote:
> Marco Calviani wrote:
> >  maybe this is slightly OT, but i would like to know if there exists 
> >a program to show the real memory usage of every process that is 
> >running on a certain machine.
> >
> How about gnome-system-monitor? The "Process Listing" tab should tell 
> you all the info.

Did you try memstat?

Description: Identify what's using up virtual memory.
 Lists all the processes, executables, and shared libraries
 that are using up virtual memory. It's helpful to see how the
 shared memory is used and which 'old' libs are loaded.

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Re: xfce 4.2

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Patrick Wiseman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| I'm on 'testing', which xfce 4.2 _finally_ reached.  I updated with
| aptitude and apparently installed xfce 4.2, restarted X Windows, and
| nothing's different.  The xfce info tells me I'm still using 4.0.6. 
| There was no invitation to configure the package, so I guess I missed
| something.  Any ideas what I need to do to get xfce 4.2 for real?
| 
| Patrick
| 
| 
You can get it here :
add this to your /etc/apt/sources.list:
deb http://the.earth.li/~huggie/xfce4/ ./

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Re: Install Perl modules the Debian way

[Chris F.A. Johnson]

On 2005-07-04, Rakotomandimby Mihamina wrote:
> Hi,
>
> What is the Debian way to install Perl modules?
> I need to have several modules on my Testing box and then wondered if it
> would be better to use cpan installer or any kind of Debian way to do it.
> If I have the choice I'd rather follow the Debian way... Is there any?

   Are the gettys running?

   Check with ps:

$ ps aux | grep '[g]etty'
root  3552  0.0  0.1  1500  412 tty1 Ss+  Jul03   0:00 /sbin/getty 
38400 tty1
root  3560  0.0  0.1  1500  412 tty2 Ss+  Jul03   0:00 /sbin/getty 
38400 tty2
root  3561  0.0  0.1  1500  412 tty3 Ss+  Jul03   0:00 /sbin/getty 
38400 tty3
root  3562  0.0  0.1  1500  412 tty4 Ss+  Jul03   0:00 /sbin/getty 
38400 tty4
root  3563  0.0  0.1  1500  412 tty5 Ss+  Jul03   0:00 /sbin/getty 
38400 tty5
root  3564  0.0  0.1  1500  412 tty6 Ss+  Jul03   0:00 /sbin/getty 
38400 tty6


  If not, you can start them, e.g.:

sudo getty tty1 38400 linux


  To ensure that they start on bootup, check the entries in /etc/inittab:

1:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty1
2:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty2
3:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty3
4:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty4
5:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty5
6:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty6


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Re: isp service

[Joseph Haig]

--- roach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sunday 03 July 2005 16:04, TedNick wrote:
> > How and where can I find a Linux friendly ISP.
> 
> Best of luck. I've only heard of one linux friendly ISP in England.
> 

And that would be?  ;-)

The original poster didn't say where he is, but if he is in England you
could try Mailbox (www.mailbox.co.uk), who describe themselves as the
"technically friendly ISP".  You can call the help desk and talk Linux
to them.  They are also one of the few who still provide a static IP
address.

Of course, any ISP should work OK with Linux, although, as you found,
you may be on your own with regards getting it set up.

Bye,

Joseph Haig

> > I need the DNS or IP address number.
> 
> Maybe, then again maybe not.
> 
> > All of the ISP's that I have contacted do not want to provide me
> with that
> > number.
> 
> If your a client, they should be able to give it. When I asked my ISP
> for 
> these detail, I had to talk to a supervisor.
> 
> > They say sorry. You cannot use Linux.
> 
> Bull Sh*t. You can use anything you want too, as long as they're
> (your ISP is) 
> standard compliant. They probably don't support DOS, OS/2 or Mac
> either. I 
> know mine doesn't.
> 
> 1. Get as much details as you can.
> 2. Boot up with Knoppix.
> 3. Configure PPP and KPPP with what you have and go to:
> 
> KPPP > Configure > Accounts
> 
> Setup an account.
> 
> And then under Edit > DNS
> 
> Set Configuration to Automatic.
> 
> This should get you online with the same info they give to Windows
> users.
> 
> If they have a setup CD that they normally tell people to use. I just
> tell 
> them, "My CD-ROM drive is bust" and "Can they talk me through it".
> 
> Then just right everything down. Some of that info will be useful to
> you.
> 
> Once your online, look in /etc/resolv.conf while online and you'll
> see that 
> KPPP has written your ISP's DNS server IP addresses in there. Copy it
> if you 
> want it. It's only there while your online.
> 
> Also while connected. If you click on the "Details" on KPPP's active
> connect 
> dialogue box. You'll see your temporary IP addresses as well as your
> ISP's 
> permanent IP address.
> 
> Best of luck.
> 
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> South Africa
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Re: Detailed memory usage

[Marco Calviani]

Thanks, it come close to what i need.

Regards,
MC

Johann Spies wrote:


On Mon, Jul 04, 2005 at 03:51:35AM -0400, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote:
 


Marco Calviani wrote:
   

maybe this is slightly OT, but i would like to know if there exists 
a program to show the real memory usage of every process that is 
running on a certain machine.


 

How about gnome-system-monitor? The "Process Listing" tab should tell 
you all the info.
   



Did you try memstat?

Description: Identify what's using up virtual memory.
Lists all the processes, executables, and shared libraries
that are using up virtual memory. It's helpful to see how the
shared memory is used and which 'old' libs are loaded.

Regards
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WHAT the Eff is this???

[trevor hamel]

i recently installed linux. when i finished the installer i as hoped to be gretted with an OS with a display like windows what i gto was more like a display of dos. can someone tell me how to get it to not be in command prompt... because i didnt think that was what linux was thank you for te help 
 
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Re: iptables related query

[J.A. de Vries]

On 2005-07-03 @ 21:40:06 (week 26) Mal Beaton wrote:

> I prefer to use sub chains to identify from the internet or from
> internal etc

I do too, but as the corresponding webpage states:


Note that this ruleset is written with readability and clearness in mind
so anyone can fathom it. Thus it is optimized for understandability and
not for speed. For a standard workstation or a server with limited
amounts of traffic that won't pose any problem. In an environment with
huge amounts of traffic or where Network Address Translation is used a
more complicated ruleset will be needed. 


I might redo it though (if I find the time)...

> I also learnt from a very experienced  firewall administrator to use the
> long switches so anyone else can easily read the scripts

That's very sound advice, which I couldn't agree with more.

Grx HdV


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Re: WHAT the Eff is this???

[Clive Menzies]

On (04/07/05 01:23), trevor hamel wrote:
> i recently installed linux. when i finished the installer i as hoped to be 
> gretted with an OS with a display like windows what i gto was more like a 
> display of dos. can someone tell me how to get it to not be in command 
> prompt... because i didnt think that was what linux was thank you for te 
> help 

run as root:

aptitude install x-window-system-core kdm kdebase

which should get you the start of a GUI system (if you'd prefer gnome:
use gdm , gnome instead but as an ex windows user, kde may be more
familiar)

If you have trouble with the X (the window environment) post the errors
to the list.

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Re: smbmount

[Ms Linuz]

Khanh Cao Van wrote:

>I have just the CD 1 of Debian 3.1 , all another deb packages was in
>the other server that run samba . After  finishing install base
>component of debian , I would like to mount to the shared forder on
>that server but could not findout the smbclient or smbmount ! ! ! !
>
>How could I mount to the network samba shared server now ??
>  
>
:# apt-get install smbfs smbclient samba-common

These packages are in the first CD of Debian 3.1 ( also the main samba
package )
Make sure your source.list pointing to your debian installation cd.
man apt-cdrom will help you out.

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Re: xfce 4.2

[Simon Huggins]

On Sun, Jul 03, 2005 at 10:03:39PM -0400, Patrick Wiseman wrote:
> I'm on 'testing', which xfce 4.2 _finally_ reached.  I updated with
> aptitude and apparently installed xfce 4.2, restarted X Windows, and
> nothing's different.  The xfce info tells me I'm still using 4.0.6.
> There was no invitation to configure the package, so I guess I missed
> something.  Any ideas what I need to do to get xfce 4.2 for real?

Did you really install it?

What does dpkg -l xfce* show you for instance?

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Re: xfce 4.2

[Simon Huggins]

'ello Debian

On Mon, Jul 04, 2005 at 10:07:47AM +0200, mess-mate wrote:
> Patrick Wiseman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> | I'm on 'testing', which xfce 4.2 _finally_ reached.  I updated with
> | aptitude and apparently installed xfce 4.2, restarted X Windows, and
> | nothing's different.  The xfce info tells me I'm still using 4.0.6. 
> | There was no invitation to configure the package, so I guess I missed
> | something.  Any ideas what I need to do to get xfce 4.2 for real?
> You can get it here :
> add this to your /etc/apt/sources.list:
> deb http://the.earth.li/~huggie/xfce4/ ./

Ah good point.  I've removed this now.  xfce 4.2.2 is in unstable
everywhere but sparc and s390 whose buildd admins need to prod it a
little more as I've asked.

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Re: Install Perl modules the Debian way

[Dave Ewart]

On Monday, 04.07.2005 at 09:10 +0200, Rakotomandimby Mihamina wrote:

> What is the Debian way to install Perl modules?  I need to have
> several modules on my Testing box and then wondered if it would be
> better to use cpan installer or any kind of Debian way to do it.  If I
> have the choice I'd rather follow the Debian way... Is there any?

Sounds like you want 'dh-make-perl'

You can do, e.g.

dh-make-perl --build --cpan Module::Name

which will build you a deb of that module, which you can then install.
Remember that there are prebuilt Perl module packages for many modules.
Normally, they are called libmodulename-perl, or something like that.
Do an 'apt-cache search' to check whether anything pre-exists.

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Re: encrypting the users' folders

[Andy Smith]

On Sun, Jul 03, 2005 at 06:17:12PM -0400, Stephen R Laniel wrote:
> Anyway, the point is that you really *shouldn't* trust the
> root user if you don't have to. And if you can encrypt your
> filesystem, you should.

You do have to trust the entity that provides your service, and its
agents, at least to some extent.

For example, an encrpyted filesystem does you no good if you are
using the hardware provided by the hosting company which can insert
keyloggers and take copies of the private keys which must be
available to decrypt the filesystem.

Naturally that they might wish to do this is ridiculous and most
people could trust most companies not to do such a thing (although
depending on jurisdiction they can be compelled to allow lawful
interception).

Every day you trust your service providers not to do bad things to
you so the suggestion that no one is to be trusted is in my opinion
needlessly paranoid.

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ltmodem setup

[Hans du Plooy]

Hi guys,

I'm running Etch on a Compaq Armada m700.  It has a built in lucent
modem, and I have the driver version 8.26a from the ltmodem.org site.

When I run ./build_module, I get the following output:
Now acquiring distribution data:
The Linux distribution is:   debian, testing/unstable
TARGET_CPU=
End of distribution check.



UPDATE=2004 April 25
 A /dev/modem symbolic link is not set.

Providing detail for device at PCI_bus :00:09.1
  with vendor-ID:device-ID
:
0700: 11c1:0445   Serial controller: Lucent Microelectronics LT WinModem
(prog-if 00 [8250])
  SubSystem 8086:2203   Intel Corp. PRO/100+ MiniPCI (probably an Ambit
U98.003.C.00 combo card)
:00:09.1 0700: 11c1:0445
Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 11
I/O ports at 3430 [size=8]
Memory at 4130 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]

And then it hangs.  Running the scanmodem script gives me the same, so I
assume it's that script that hangs.  Removing the line where scanmodem
gets called, gives me the following:

To begin compilation of lt_modem.o and lt_serial.o,  Enter

make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.

Checking for driver products:

Compilation of lt_modem.o failed,
as expected from absence of modversions.h

And scrolling up I see:

configure support only for 2.2, 2.4 and 2.5 kernels

This works out of the box on SUSE 9.3, with the same version of the
driver, so at least I know that the driver *can* work with 2.6 kernels.

Does anybody know how to get this working?  There is a .deb package for
download too, but it hangs at the same scanmodem part.

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Re: WHAT the Eff is this???

[Kent West]

trevor hamel wrote:

> i recently installed linux. when i finished the installer i as hoped
> to be gretted with an OS with a display like windows what i gto
> was more like a display of dos. can someone tell me how to get it to
> not be in command prompt... because i didnt think that was what linux
> was thank you for te help
>  

You have a (common) misunderstanding of what "Linux" is.

Linux is the core, the "kernel", of the Debian GNU/Linux operating
system. Although it is quite complex, it is relatively small and
minimalist compared to the whole OS. It's basic function is to provide
an interface between the "bare iron" (disk drives, serial port, video
adapters, etc) and the higher level software.

In the case of Debian, on top of the kernel sits all sorts of utilities
and programs, such as web servers and GUI interfaces (similar to
MS-Windows) and programming environments.

Since Debian is geared more for those who want to control their computer
rather than be controlled by their computer, the installation is pretty
minimalistic unless you tell it be otherwise. It tends to install more
than the bare minimum, but less than would be expected by the average
Windows user (unless, as mentioned, you tell it during the install to go
ahead and install more than that). In your case, this resulted in a
"command prompt" environment (although it's more powerful than any
command prompt you've ever known in the DOS/Windows world).

You'll want to install a Graphical User Interface (GUI). Although there
are dozens (hundreds?) of different GUIs available (unlike the Windows
world, in which you basically have the one GUI provided by Microsoft),
you'll probably be most comfortable with KDE.  To install KDE, as root,
(and don't run as root except when necessary; a better solution would be
to use "sudo"), enter the following commands:

apt-get update
apt-get install aptitude
aptitude update
aptitude install kde kdm x-window-system


The first command updates apt-get's knowledge of what packages are
available for installation.

The second command installs "aptitude", which by some accounts is the
Future's "replacement" for "apt-get", so you might as well get it now
and start getting comfortable with it. It works very similarly to "apt-get".

The third command updates aptitude's knowledge of what packages are
available for installation (and may be unnecessary, since I believe it
shares the same database with apt-get, but it can't hurt).

The fourth command actually installs the X11 Windowing System (the basic
GUI), along with KDE (the bells-and-whistles that make X "pretty"), and
KDM which is a graphical login manager.

Then to start the X system, you can:
 * run "startx" (as a normal user, not root)
or
 * run "/etc/init.d/kdm restart" (as root) (although this method will
leave root logged in on the first Virtual Terminal (VT) - you can switch
back to VT1 with Ctrl-Alt-F1 (or to VT2 with Ctrl-Alt-F2, VT3 with
Ctrl-Alt-F3, etc), log out of root, then Alt-F7 to get back to where you
were in the GUI)
or
 * reboot

Prepare for an adventure; the fun has just begun!

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/dev/log

[michael]

I saw the following in my 'tiger' output
 --FAIL-- [dev002f] /dev/log has world permissions

which is indeed true:

 $ file /dev/log
 /dev/log: socket
 $ ls -lt /dev/log
 srw-rw-rw-  1 root root 0 2005-06-28 13:28 /dev/log

but I cannot find a manual page etc that tells me what this socket is
for or whether the permissions are correct

all advice gratefully received
-- 
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University of Manchester


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Re: courier-maildrop & mysql support!

[Chris Boot]

Hi,

On 3 Jul 2005, at 22:38, h2t-nl wrote:



Hello guys,

Somebody in the community that can help me with the maildrop package
that support Mysql?
As far as I know the present courier-maildrop version (0.47.4)
doesnt=B4t support this!
Has somebody already compile this package to support mysql?
BTW I am using Debian Sarge distri.

Any help will be appreciated.

hok Hie



The Debian maildrop packages don't support MySQL or PgSQL at all. At  
one point I simply recompiled the maildrop package with MySQL  
support, but I've recently started using (also self-compiled and  
patched) Courier 0.50.0 with its version of maildrop which uses  
courier-authlib. That way I can have my IMAP, POP3 and maildrop all  
set up from the same configuration file. This is all currently driven  
by a MySQL database, but my plan is to move it to PostgreSQL shortly.


Let me know if you're interested!

Chris

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Re: iptables - no TTL target?

[Mart Frauenlob]

Shaun Lipscombe wrote:

* Mart Frauenlob wrote:


eris:~# iptables -t mangle -A PREROUTING -i eth1 -s 192.168.13.0/24 -j 
TTL --ttl-inc 1

iptables: No chain/target/match by that name


Do you have module table_mangle loaded ?
modprobe table_mangle
and also these modules:
ipt_TTL for the target, ipt_ttl for matching..


This is the netfilter part of my kernel .config [1].
Everything is compiled into the kernel.
So it should work without loading the modules, right?
Did i miss any?
Or does the debian-kernel-source not support the TTL target, huh?
[2] shows dirlisting of my kernels net modules.

Thanks for help.

Regards
Mart

[1]
#
#   IP: Netfilter Configuration
#
CONFIG_IP_NF_CONNTRACK=y
CONFIG_IP_NF_FTP=y
# CONFIG_IP_NF_AMANDA is not set
# CONFIG_IP_NF_TFTP is not set
CONFIG_IP_NF_IRC=y
CONFIG_IP_NF_QUEUE=y
CONFIG_IP_NF_IPTABLES=y
CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_LIMIT=y
CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_MAC=y
CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_PKTTYPE=y
CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_MARK=y
CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_MULTIPORT=y
CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_TOS=y
CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_RECENT=y
CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_ECN=y
CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_DSCP=y
CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_AH_ESP=y
CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_LENGTH=y
CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_TTL=y
CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_TCPMSS=y
CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_HELPER=y
CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_STATE=y
CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_CONNTRACK=y
CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_UNCLEAN=y
CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_OWNER=y
CONFIG_IP_NF_FILTER=y
CONFIG_IP_NF_TARGET_REJECT=y
CONFIG_IP_NF_TARGET_MIRROR=y
CONFIG_IP_NF_NAT=y
CONFIG_IP_NF_NAT_NEEDED=y
CONFIG_IP_NF_TARGET_MASQUERADE=y
CONFIG_IP_NF_TARGET_REDIRECT=y
CONFIG_IP_NF_NAT_LOCAL=y
CONFIG_IP_NF_NAT_SNMP_BASIC=m
CONFIG_IP_NF_NAT_IRC=y
CONFIG_IP_NF_NAT_FTP=y
CONFIG_IP_NF_MANGLE=y
CONFIG_IP_NF_TARGET_TOS=y
CONFIG_IP_NF_TARGET_ECN=y
CONFIG_IP_NF_TARGET_DSCP=y
CONFIG_IP_NF_TARGET_MARK=y
CONFIG_IP_NF_TARGET_LOG=y
CONFIG_IP_NF_TARGET_ULOG=y
CONFIG_IP_NF_TARGET_TCPMSS=y
CONFIG_IP_NF_ARPTABLES=y
CONFIG_IP_NF_ARPFILTER=y
CONFIG_IP_NF_ARP_MANGLE=y

[2]
eris:~# ls -lh 
/lib/modules/2.4.27-16-i386-eris.home.lan/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/

total 16K
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 13K 2005-07-04 08:34 ip_nat_snmp_basic.o


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Re: encrypting the users' folders

[Steve Lamb]

Shaun Lipscombe wrote:
> ... and I should have said.. and then use ~/dominik as your ~.

Don'tcha mean "I should have said, chmod 700 ~"

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~} pwd
/home/grey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~} ls -ld /home/grey
drwxr-xr-x  59 grey grey 2856 2005-07-04 03:51 /home/grey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~} chmod 700 ~
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~} ls -ld /home/grey
drwx--  59 grey grey 2856 2005-07-04 03:51 /home/grey

Not entirely why you're putting another directory in there.  *shrug*


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Re: iptables - no TTL target?

[Mart Frauenlob]

Shaun Lipscombe wrote:

IIRC You need CONFIG_IP_NF_TARGET_TOS=y to add the TTL target, not the
TTL matching module (which you already have).



Which should of course say CONFIG_IP_NF_TARGET_TTL! Doh!

I'm sure you guessed that though, right? ;-)


eris:/usr/share/doc/kernel-source-2.4.27# cat 
/boot/config-2.4.27-16-i386-eris.home.lan | grep TTL

CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_TTL=y

It does not look i have this option in my config.
Also it does not show up in menuconfig, as i for sure (rechecked) set 
everything except the snmp module to be compiled into the kernel.

So this means get a patch from netfilter.org and recompile with that?
http://www.netfilter.org/patch-o-matic/pom-base.html#pom-base-TTL
That might be?
Do i need to compile iptables also from source for that?

Thanks and Regards
Mart


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Debian Roadmap

[Hans du Plooy]

Hi guys,

I may have missed this, but is there some place (other than trying to
keep up with the dev list) where I can get an idea of what the roadmap
for Debian (particularly Etch) looks like?  Things like what big changes
are coming, when e.g. X.org will be added, ect.

Thanks
-- 
Kind regards
Hans du Plooy
SagacIT (Pty) Ltd
hansdp at sagacit dot com


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Re: (SLIGHTLY OT): PC speaker not working with 2.6.12.2 kernel

[Mark Fletcher]

On Monday 04 July 2005 01:40, Cláudio E. Elicker wrote:
> On Sunday 03 July 2005 12:02, Mark Fletcher wrote:
> > However, under my new kernel the PC speaker (which
> > I use only for beeping me when mail arrives, when I
> > hit tab in a shell and haven't typed enough to
> > uniquely identify a file etc) isn't working (no
> > beeps).
> >
> > I'm guessing there's a kernel option under 2.6
> > that's needed to turn the beeper on but wasn't
> > required under 2.4. Can anyone point me at it?
> >
> > Note I'm NOT trying to use the PC speaker as a
> > sound card, I know there are folks out there who do
> > that but I have a perfectly good sound card with
> > perfectly good speakers, all I want from the PC
> > speaker is the odd beep at appropriate moments...
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Mark
>
> Try
> modprobe pcspkr
>
> []'s
> Cláudio

Woah, now I feel stupid -- modprobe pcspkr and lo and 
behold my machine is beeping away like it's going out 
of fashion. So I compiled the PC speaker driver as a 
module then didn't load the module. Duh...

Thanks

Mark

Re: Starting SA with Procmail

[John Fleming]

I'm giving up on procmail.


You shouldn't have to give up.  I suspect a lot of people use procmail just 
as you have described you want to do.  It is the simplest implementation of 
SpamAssassin, ClamAV, and Postfix, and works great.  You shouldn't be 
limited as to whether you use it site-wide of user-specific.


I use procmail to call ClamAV for site-wide analysis of all email, and then 
have .procmailrc files for each user that I want to use SpamAssassin.  At 
this time I'm using site-wide SpamAssassin rules, but you don't have to do 
it that way.


Everything else you try will be more complex than using procmail.  I think 
you should get procmail sorted out before you try the others.  - John



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Digital signing of printed documents

[Alphonse Ogulla]

Hi good people,
I wish to get your views on how I can implement a system that will
capture text of a financial document that is to be printed, run a hash
algorithm (SHA-1) over the document text, store an electronic copy of
the document and its digital signature to disk and lastly print the
document with the electronic signature at the last line of the
document. The financial document can be a ticket/receipt produced by a
POS application or an invoice/delivery note generated by an accounting
software.

The objective is to set up a robust electronic document validation
system that can authenticate electronically produced documents using
Debian GNU/Linux and other open-source tools. My search for an
existing open-source solution did not yield any fruit.

In brief, working of the system shall be as follows using an invoice
for exemplification.

1) an invoice generated by an accounting system is sent for printing
on a Samba-CUPS shared network printer
2) the text of the invoice is captured and passed through SHA-1
algorithm to obtain its digital signature.
3) the invoice text is saved in a file named TIMESTAMP_a.txt, the
digital signature is saved in a file named TIMESTAMP_b.txt
4) the invoice text is then sent to the network printer with the
digital signature printed on the last line of the invoice.
5) at the end of day, another SHA-1 algorithm is performed over all
the _b.txt signatures and saved as _c.txt on a programmable read only
memory (PROM) which can be a CD-R in its very basic form. So, for
every working day the system will have a number of _a.txt and _b.txt
files which correspond to the invoices issued on that day and one
_c.txt file that contains the signature of all _b.txt signatures of
that day.
6) lastly the _c.txt signatures for any given day is read from the
CD-R and used to verify all the _b.txt signatures kept on disk, which
in turn will verify the _a.txt document which is the copy of the
original issued invoice.

At a high level, my thinking is that such a system can be devised
using Samba and CUPS to capture invoice details on the print queue
then use a myriad of scripts for hashing the invoice text and
appending the signature to the invoice before sending it to the
printer. Scripts can also be used to save the _a.txt and _b.txt in an
auto-generated directory file tree structure. Finally I can use Cron
to automatically run scripts at the end of day to create the _c.txt
signatures and write them to cd using cdrecord.

Do you think this is a reasonable way of going about this project? Is
Samba-CUPS and bash/perl scripting the best tools to use or are there
others? What is your recommendation and advise? Your comments, remarks
or criticism are welcome.

-- 
Thanks in advance.
Alphonse Ogulla
Nairobi, Kenya

Re: xfce 4.2

[Patrick Wiseman]

On 7/4/05, Simon Huggins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 03, 2005 at 10:03:39PM -0400, Patrick Wiseman wrote:
> > I'm on 'testing', which xfce 4.2 _finally_ reached.  I updated with
> > aptitude and apparently installed xfce 4.2, restarted X Windows, and
> > nothing's different.  The xfce info tells me I'm still using 4.0.6.
> > There was no invitation to configure the package, so I guess I missed
> > something.  Any ideas what I need to do to get xfce 4.2 for real?
> 
> Did you really install it?
> 
> What does dpkg -l xfce* show you for instance?

As you suspected, that shows 4.0.6 installed, not 4.2.  So, my
question remains: aptitude d/l'ed it, but how do I install it?

(And I haven't put those other sources in my sources.list because I
wanted the "official" version.)

Patrick

Re: Install Perl modules the Debian way

[Adam Funk]

Rakotomandimby Mihamina wrote:

> What is the Debian way to install Perl modules?
> I need to have several modules on my Testing box and then wondered if it
> would be better to use cpan installer or any kind of Debian way to do it.
> If I have the choice I'd rather follow the Debian way... Is there any?

The first thing to do is to see if there's a package for the module you want
-- it's amazing how many CPAN modules are already Debian-packaged.

For example, I needed to install Net::Netmask recently and just did the
normal thing.

$ apt-cache search net::netmask
libnet-netmask-perl - parse, manipulate and lookup IP network blocks

# apt-get update
# apt-get install libnet-netmask-perl


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Re: Digital signing of printed documents

[John Hasler]

Alphonse Ogulla writes:
> I wish to get your views on how I can implement a system that will
> capture text of a financial document that is to be printed, run a hash
> algorithm (SHA-1) over the document text...

I suggest that you use SHA-2.  SHA-1 may no longer be secure.
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Re: xfce 4.2

[Patrick Wiseman]

On 7/4/05, Patrick Wiseman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 7/4/05, Simon Huggins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Sun, Jul 03, 2005 at 10:03:39PM -0400, Patrick Wiseman wrote:
> > > I'm on 'testing', which xfce 4.2 _finally_ reached.  I updated with
> > > aptitude and apparently installed xfce 4.2, restarted X Windows, and
> > > nothing's different.  The xfce info tells me I'm still using 4.0.6.
> > > There was no invitation to configure the package, so I guess I missed
> > > something.  Any ideas what I need to do to get xfce 4.2 for real?
> >
> > Did you really install it?
> >
> > What does dpkg -l xfce* show you for instance?
> 
> As you suspected, that shows 4.0.6 installed, not 4.2.  So, my
> question remains: aptitude d/l'ed it, but how do I install it?

On closer examination, it appears that the only piece of 4.2 in
testing is 'xfce4-icon-theme', so I guess I was wrong thinking it had
made it into testing.  So I'll continue to wait.

Patrick

Re: Starting SA with Procmail

[Hans du Plooy]

On Mon, 2005-07-04 at 07:20 -0500, John Fleming wrote:
> You shouldn't have to give up.  I suspect a lot of people use procmail just 
> as you have described you want to do.  It is the simplest implementation of 
> SpamAssassin, ClamAV, and Postfix, and works great.  You shouldn't be 
> limited as to whether you use it site-wide of user-specific.

I missed the original post, but I'll offer you my experiences.  I setup
mail servers all the time for antivirus and spam scanning.

Through procmail starting spamassassin is best done with spamc and
spamd, because it lightens load on the machine a lot.  Your procmail
recipy should look like this:

:0hbfw: spamassassin.lock
*<256000
|/usr/bin/spamc

This will chuck your mail through spamassassin and mark it (according to
the settings in $HOME/.spamain or /etc/spamassassin

Once that's done, you can use something like:

:0
*^X-Spam-Flag: YES
/home/hans/caughtspam/

or

:0
*^Subject:.*SPAM*
/home/hans/caughtspam/

BUT: Really the best and most elegant way to do virus and spam checking
(and loads easier to troubleshoot) is with amavisd-new

apt-get install amavisd-new spamassassin razor pyzor clamav

In your /etc/master.cf (assuming you use postfix, I don't know how the
others work), put:

smtp  inet  n   -   n   -   2   smtpd -o
content_filter=smtp:[127.0.0.1]:10024

localhost:10025 inetn   -   n   -   -   smtpd -o
content_filter=

Read through /etc/amavisd.conf - it is fairly straight forward and easy
to set up.  Amavisd gives you a bit more control over what happens with
spam and you can handle border cases differently from spam.  With Clam
in the mix it will get rid of html phishing mails too.

There are some nice tools too that give you graphs of how much of what
was stopped, ect.

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Re: encrypting the users' folders

[privacy.at Anonymous Remailer]

> You do have to trust the entity that provides your service, and its
> agents, at least to some extent.
> 
> For example, an encrpyted filesystem does you no good if you are
> using the hardware provided by the hosting company which can insert
> keyloggers and take copies of the private keys which must be
> available to decrypt the filesystem.
> 
> Naturally that they might wish to do this is ridiculous and most
> people could trust most companies not to do such a thing (although
> depending on jurisdiction they can be compelled to allow lawful
> interception).
> 
> Every day you trust your service providers not to do bad things to
> you so the suggestion that no one is to be trusted is in my opinion
> needlessly paranoid.
> 
> Or do you grow all your own food because you can't trust suppliers
> not to put razor blades in it?

Razor blades you would notice!

What about mind-control nano-implants?!?!


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Re: Digital signing of printed documents

[Lee Braiden]

On Monday 04 Jul 2005 14:10, Shaun Lipscombe wrote:
> On the gpg mailing list they basically came to the conclusion that SHA-1
> is *weaker* than previously thought based on the fact that collisions
> can be found in SHA-1 in 2**69 hash operations, much less than the
> brute-force attack of 2**80 operations based on the hash length.
>
> but.. 2**69 however, is still quite strong [1] ;-)

My worry with SHA-1 is that, beyond being weaker than first thought, it has a 
flaw that wasn't originally known.  Makes me wonder what else might be wrong 
with it that they inventors missed...

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Re: WHAT the Eff is this???

[Carl Fink]

On Mon, Jul 04, 2005 at 05:07:27AM -0500, Kent West wrote:

> Since Debian is geared more for those who want to control their computer
> rather than be controlled by their computer, the installation is pretty
> minimalistic unless you tell it be otherwise. 

And it might be worth mentioning that if someone isn't interested in
learning a fair amount about how to configure a Linux box, other
Debian-derived distributions like Ubuntu and Morphix and Knoppix might be
more user-friendly.
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Re: Digital signing of printed documents

[Lee Braiden]

On Monday 04 Jul 2005 13:42, Alphonse Ogulla wrote:
> The objective is to set up a robust electronic document validation
> system that can authenticate electronically produced documents using
> Debian GNU/Linux and other open-source tools. My search for an
> existing open-source solution did not yield any fruit.

> Do you think this is a reasonable way of going about this project? Is
> Samba-CUPS and bash/perl scripting the best tools to use or are there
> others? What is your recommendation and advise? Your comments, remarks
> or criticism are welcome.

I'd be worried about why you need to validate an invoice or receipt in the 
first place.

In a paperless, digital office, all you should need from a customer is their 
customer number or some other unique ID.  Then, you'll be able to pull up all 
their records digitally, from a secure system, and you'll know if the receipt 
they're presenting is correct.  In other words, the paper is just something 
for the records of pre-digital folk, and not something you really care about.

-- 
Lee Braiden
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Re: Detailed memory usage

[Ugo Bellavance]

Marco Calviani wrote:
> Hi Debian,
>   maybe this is slightly OT, but i would like to know if there exists a
> program to show the real memory usage of every process that is running
> on a certain machine.
> 
> Thanks,
> MC
> 
> 

ps

(man ps for info)


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Re: can't switch to virtual console

[Tom Verbreyt]

Hey ho,

> I'm not sure if it's debian or keyboard or X issue,but however...I'll
> really appreciate your help.
> I'm using Debian testing with 2.6.11-rc3 kernel,every time when the
> mashine boot I'm logging into the X server,and after this I can't
> switch anymore to the other virtual consoles using Ctrl+Alt+F1...F6.

You don't mention the relevant specifics, such as what video card you have,
or what actually happens when you try Ctrl+Alt+F1.

I can only say that I've been having the same kind of problem on and off
for several years with my Nvidia card. Sometimes I could switch to console,
then later I could switch, but it was all gibberish, still later it just
made my monitor go out of sync etc. etc.

Lately, however, someone pointed me to the vesafb-tng patch [1], and it
seems to have solved all my problems. :-)

So if you're using an Nvidia card too, I'd say give it a go.

Cheers,
Tom

[1] http://dev.gentoo.org/~spock/projects/vesafb-tng/


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Re: Digital signing of printed documents

[Dave Howorth]

Alphonse Ogulla wrote:

Hi good people,
I wish to get your views on how I can implement a system that will
capture text of a financial document that is to be printed, run a hash
algorithm (SHA-1) over the document text, store an electronic copy of
the document and its digital signature to disk and lastly print the
document with the electronic signature at the last line of the
document. The financial document can be a ticket/receipt produced by a
POS application or an invoice/delivery note generated by an accounting
software.

...

Do you think this is a reasonable way of going about this project? Is
Samba-CUPS and bash/perl scripting the best tools to use or are there
others? What is your recommendation and advise? Your comments, remarks
or criticism are welcome.


As others have mentioned, perhaps you need to tell us more about the 
project's purpose - what risks is it designed to protect against?


For example, the existence of the _c.txt leads me to suspect that you're 
worried the _b.txt files may be changed. But it's not clear why you 
wouldn't just store everything on the CD if that's the case?


And I'm not sure of the purpose of printing the hash on the paper 
ticket, since it may or may not correspond to the text that's actually 
printed on a specific piece of paper that's presented later. When does 
the printed hash get used?


Cheers, Dave


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Re: WHAT the Eff is this???

[Douglas Ward]

On Monday 04 July 2005 04:23, trevor hamel wrote:
> i recently installed linux. when i finished the installer i as hoped to be
> gretted with an OS with a display like windows what i gto was more like
> a display of dos. can someone tell me how to get it to not be in command
> prompt... because i didnt think that was what linux was thank you for
> te help
>
> Trevor,

SUMMARY (each typed on one line as user root):
# echo "deb ftp://ftp.egr.msu.edu/debian stable contrib main non-free" 
>> /etc/apt/sources.list
# apt-get update && apt-get install aptitude
# aptitude install x-window-system kdm kde synaptic openoffice.org 
mozilla-firefox

OR
Install something like Ubuntu < http://ubuntu.com >

- - -
Methods 1, 2, 3
Notes
References
- - -

There are several ways to resolve this. Each command given is for 'root' (SEE 
1.a), is meant to be typed at the command prompt (terminal, console, virtual 
terminal--whatever you want to call the dos-like screen you see), and is 
meant to be typed on a single line (even though email magic makes some 
commands look like they are for two lines).

- - -
METHODS
- - -

METHOD 1. Fairly Involved, but worth a try

a. Log in as 'root' (You probably entered a password for 'root' during the 
install, as well as a user and password)[4]
b. Run commands to make sure the system is partly up to date:
echo "deb ftp://ftp.egr.msu.edu/debian stable contrib main non-free" 
>> /etc/apt/sources.list

apt-get update && apt-get install aptitude

c. Run a command to install something pretty
Either:
aptitude install x-window-system kdm kde synaptic openoffice.org 
mozilla-firefox

OR:
aptitude install x-window-system gdm gnome synaptic openoffice.org 
mozilla-firefox

d. Wait a bit, and try to answer any questions--some will appear. The default 
answers are usually pretty good (unless it's obvious they are wrong).


METHOD 2. Minimal interaction from you, and may be quicker than Method 1 if 
something in Method 1 goes wrong

a. Install a Debian-based distribution, e.g. Ubuntu < http://ubuntu.com >
b. Follow the install. If you installed Debian, you can easily finish this 
install.


METHOD 3. The command line is a goddess.
apt-get install grep sed ed vim emacs links
(Yeah, I am joking.)

- - -
NOTES
- - -
Method 1: GNOME versus KDE turns into a debate. If you do not know what they 
are, or do not recognize any pictures at < http://gnome.org > or 
, use this advice: KDE can be more familiar to a Windows 
user, but GNOME can also be easily used. There are several substitutes for 
the programs you install with the commands I give. Looking at the 'aptitude 
install' lines, openoffice.org, mozilla-firefox, and synaptic are optional. 
Synaptic is a graphical program (package in Debian terms) installer, and can 
be very useful when beginning. (I'm assuming you've heard of OpenOffice.org 
and Fireox.) If you are eager to learn the command line and experiment, 
kde/gnome can be replaced with kde-base/gnome-core, and x-window-system with 
x-window-system-core. What I list are commands that will install a lot of 
software--insurance to reduce any mysteriously missing programs. The 
substitutes will install less (nd save disk space), but may take your time 
later when you read instructions for things, and are mysteriously missing 
applications you need. To see descriptions of any of these programs 
(packages), type:
apt-cache show nameofpackagehere
To find what something is called (e.g. Firefox is named mozilla-firefox, and 
Instant Message is named gaim or kopete), type:
apt-cache search searchwordshere
Several Package Management Guides (Simple -> Complex):

http://intrepid.perlmonk.org/apt-dpkg-brief-ref.html
http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/4352
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/users-guide/ch-iraus.en.html

Method 2: This is a Debian list, so I see the people already cringing at this 
method. But, if you don't want to spend time learning small things every so 
often, or Method 1 is a no-go, installing something like Ubuntu may save you 
time. Debian lets you learn at a good pace--problems usually only occur when 
you can take time to change something.

Method 3: This does not install a Graphical User Interface (like you are 
thinking about). This is a joke, but may actually be useful one day if you 
want to use the command-line (and can be done in addition to Method 1).
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/users-guide/ch-gtktcl.en.html

Why You Saw a DOS-Like Screen: Another poster was more complete and verbose 
than I will be. GNU/Linux has several core layers, akin to the layers OS X 
uses.[1][2][3] Debian (and other distributions) allow for fine-grained 
control of what layers you install. Somehow (through installer bug, installer 
interface weakness, or, much less likely, user error), your install of 
GNU/Linux (Debian?) did not install the Graphical Layer (or, what the Apple 
site labels as "Aqua" Layer or "User Experience" Layer). Essentially, core 
(bottom)

does Sarge have a /boot/boot-menu.b file?

[Luke Call]

Does Sarge have a /boot/boot-menu.b file?

I just upgraded from Woody and it hangs at the beginning of bootup after 
saying just "LI" where it used to say "LILO". I tried running lilo 
manually but it requires a /boot/boot.b file. My /boot/boot.b appears to 
be a symlink to /boot/boot-menu.b, which doesn't exist. So I was 
wondering if that file is supposed to be part of Sarge, or if it's 
something else...


Thanks!

Luke


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Newbie: What's the Best Window Manager?

[Eduardo B. V. Pereira]

Hi,
I'm new to Linux and I would like to know which window
manager do you think is the best one and why, to help
choose the ones I'm going to try first.

Thank you all,
e. pereira

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Re: installing sarge to lvm

[Rick Pasotto]

On Sun, Jul 03, 2005 at 05:37:37PM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 03, 2005 at 04:23:31PM -0400, Rick Pasotto wrote:
> > On Sat, Jul 02, 2005 at 09:29:15PM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> > 
> > > After that, you go back to the partitioner and then the new LVM
> > > logical volumes will appear at the bottom of the list.  Then you
> > > select them one at a time and assign them to the
> > > partitions/whatever you want.
> > 
> > Nope. All I see are the four disk partitions. 
> > 
> > The 'Modify Logical Volumes' gives only 'Create' and 'Delete' as
> > options. It seems strange that the only way to see a list of logical
> > volumes already created is to pretend you want to delete one of
> > them. This shows the list to select from and shows that the file
> > systems are unknown and there is no mount point.
> > 
> I forget exactly where the options are, but once you create the
> logical volumes, they should be listed by the partitioner.
> 
> > > In my case, I have logical volumes called var, usr, local, and opt
> > > in a volume group called vg00.  I have / and /boot on their own
> > > real partitions, for good measure.
> > 
> > Yes, that's pretty much what I want to do.
> > 
> > > In the partitioner, I had to go and select /dev/mapper/vg00-usr
> > > and tell it I wanted ext3 and to mount it as /usr.  Once I figured
> > > out the correct sequence it was not too difficult. Unfortunately
> > > that part of the install process seems a little too unintuitive.
> > 
> > Rather than simply unintuitive I think it's either non-existent or
> > superbly hidden.
> > 
> That is quite strange.  I am not sure what to tell you.

I think I've discovered the problem. *Sometimes* I'll be asked if I want
to activate the logical volumes. It seems to happen when I proceed
directly without any "exploring", that is without changing my mind about
which option to select next and without backing up to redo something.
*IFF* that question is asked and I answer 'yes' then the logical volumes
will be presented for formating, etc.

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Re: WHAT the Eff is this???

[Kent West]

Douglas Ward wrote:

>On Monday 04 July 2005 04:23, trevor hamel wrote:
>  
>
>>can someone tell me how to get it to not be in command
>>prompt
>>
>c. Run a command to install something pretty
>Either:
>aptitude install x-window-system kdm kde synaptic openoffice.org 
>mozilla-firefox
>
>OR:
>aptitude install x-window-system gdm gnome synaptic openoffice.org 
>mozilla-firefox
>
>  
>
OR, if you want both KDE and Gnome:

  aptitude install x-window-system kdm gdm kde gnome synaptic
openoffice.org mozilla-firefox

Of course, gdm and kdm conflict with each other; you can (usually) only
have one graphical login manager; but Debian is smart enough to ask
which one you want to use, even though both are installed. (Of course,
you could just leave one or the other (or both, in which case you'd
start X manually with the command "startx") out of the installation.)

>METHOD 3. The command line is a goddess.
>apt-get install grep sed ed vim emacs links
>(Yeah, I am joking.)
>  
>
You say you're joking, but, I bet Trevor has never seen a text-based web
browser. So, Trever, just for the "gee-whiz, I'm getting an education"
factor, as root, do

  aptitude install links

and then as non-root, run "links". Once the screen is up, press "g" to
go somewhere, and you'll be asked for an address. Type in a web address
(preferably a simple site, like www.slashdot.org), and you'll be surfing
in text mode. An alternative, and more common, text-mode browser is
"lynx", which you can install with:

  aptitude install lynx

(Note that anywhere you see "apt-get" or "aptitude" you can pretty much
substitute the other, although as mentioned in an earlier email, you may
want to get in the habit of using "aptititude".

>Why You Saw a DOS-Like Screen: Another poster was more complete and verbose 
>than I will be.
>
I may have been more verbose, but I believe you've been more
informative. Good explanation!

>HAL (more hardware abstraction)
>
I believe it stands for "Hardware Abstraction Layer", in case you're
curious.

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Re: WHAT the Eff is this???

[Kent West]

Kent West wrote:

>You say you're joking, but, I bet Trevor has never seen a text-based web
>browser. So, Trever
>
Oops, sorry; "Trevor".

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Re: Package insall/uninstall weird behaviour

[Kevin Mark]

On Sat, Jul 02, 2005 at 04:30:38PM -0400, adijr . wrote:
> hello.
> 
> I have a little problem
> 
> running debian 3.1 r0a
> 
> i was trying to install a hl5140 driver package, and the only one i seemed 
> to find was an rpm. So i installed it with alien, but it wasn't very 
> useful. Upon uninstallation (w/ Synaptic PM under KDE) all seemed well, but 
> when i try to (re)install a deb version of the package, i get something 
> along the lines of "Package needs to be reinstalled, but i can't find the 
> archive' from apt. alien and dpkg request me to uninstall the package that 
> somehow is still there, but can't do it, giving me something of the sort:
> 
> Removing hl5140lpr ...
> /var/lib/dpkg/info/hl5140lpr.postrm: line 3: /etc/init.d/lpd: No such file 
> or directory
> dpkg: error processing hl5140lpr (--remove):
> subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 127
> Errors were encountered while processing:
> hl5140lpr
> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
> RESULT=100
> 
> Any ideas how to get rid of the old pacake so i can install the new one..? 
> or how to reinstall the new one Over the old?
> 
> thanks
> 
> adijr.
Hi A,
sounds like the OLD package has a post-remove script that is failing. I
would suggest ONE of these:
1) examine and fix the script and its error
2) add 'exit 0' to the top, so as to ignore the error
3) try to purge (not just remove) the script then try to install the DEB
cheers,
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Re: encrypting the users' folders

[Douglas Ward]

On Sunday 03 July 2005 03:16, Dominik Margraf wrote:
> Hello!
>
> Currently, the default setting is that root can see and modify
> anything, including the contents of the users' folders, moreover,
> users can also see the contents of other users' folders by default.
> These pose a significant confidentiality and security risk.
>
> Therefore is there any way to encrypt all users' folders and making
> the computer to set this up by default when a new user is generated?
> So that even the root can't see the contents of the users' folders.
>
> Dominik

I will address the root access problem. If users do work on that system, i.e. 
use it as a live system, policy is the only protection. (And, technology can 
only reinforce policies.) If you do not trust the administrator(s) (and are 
not in charge of policy management), you can do nothing substantial.

But, for what is the system used? If users do no work on the machine, and use 
it as a file server/backup machine, then the solution is simple: encrypt 
files before they are sent to the machine. Then, the only threat root poses 
is deletion of the files.

A technical reinforcement to a policy can be two-tiered. The first tier is 
using multiple people to administer the box, and use a role-based access 
control system to enforce the separation of roles (or, simply require 
multiple people to be present for a root login). A problem is that the system 
could be rebooted to circumvent any role-based controls (or existing 
passwords). Encrypted folders would help solve this problem (as long as the 
keys are not stored on the system, but are provided by the users each time 
they login). A problem is that, potentially, the rebooted system could accept 
normal login requests, and user-submitted keys--without any role-based 
restrictions on snooping RAM for keys--and be an insecure man-in-the-middle.



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Re: how to startx at boot time

[James Vahn]

Khanh Cao Van wrote:
> I' tried change the run level in /etc/inittab to 5 but my PC did not
> boot in X at boot time . Ofcause I've install all gnome and x windows
> and could startx by hand . How should I do ?

Debian doesn't use runlevels in that manner. I removed gdm/kdm/xdm and
have these lines in ~/.bash_profile (use backtics (`) here):

if [ `tty` = "/dev/tty1" ]; then
startx
fi

(You could follow that startx with a check for a few minutes of uptime and
 a "sudo halt" if you want the box to power off at logout. The uptime check
 to avoid nasty reboot loops if X fails for some reason.)

In addition, install "mingetty" and auto-login by way of /etc/inittab

1:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty --autologin jim tty1
2:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty2

Turn the computer on, and up comes your GUI without further intervention.
Only use gdm/kdm/xdm (etc..) if there are multiple users wanting separate
accounts in the house.


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Re: packet libmyodbc broken in SID?

[Tim Ruehsen]

Thanks Kevin,

i am aware of the pitfalls introduced by SID. But all I was looking for was 
information. I think it is a good idea to ask the mailing list before I file 
a bug. E.g. sometimes someone knows that there is a workaround, which might 
be helpful when filing a report. Or someone just knows more about the issue 
than i can read from the bug reports.

At the moment I am just patient since almost every day parts of ODBC are 
updated... someone is heavily working on it.

Regards, Tim

Am Donnerstag, 30. Juni 2005 09:21 schrieb Kevin Mark:
> On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 01:04:08PM +0200, Tim Ruehsen wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > a few days before packet odbcinst1 has been replaced by odbcinst1debian1.
> > In this process 'apt-get dist-upgrade' removed the packet libmyodbc. Of 
> > course, my apps using MySQL via ODBC do not work any more.
> > 
> > Trying to 'apt-get install libmyodbc' results in:
> > ... file bug report ...
> > The following packages have unmet dependencies:
> >   libmyodbc: Depends: odbcinst1 but it is not installable
> > E: Broken packages
> > 
> > Before I file a bug report, I ask here for more information.
> > Does anyone knows a work-around or how to solve the situation?
> > Forcing the installation of libmyodbc does not really help. The MySQL 
server 
> > drops the connection (no real error message).
> > 
> > It is a SID (unstable) system. All packets are at the latest version 
> > (unstable). 
> Hi Tim,
> you realize having the latest vesion means it has little or no testing.
> sid is the most changing software stream and the most likely to have
> software problems because it is where software is being tested. If you
> want something to 'just work' Sarge would be idea. While many people run
> sid beacuse it is the 'cutting edge', it has risks that may cause apps
> to stop working from time to time. It you (can/want to) handle this, ok. I
> run sid on my workstation and I have no critical infrastrucure to
> distrub. but if I was running a RDBS with an old unix distro, I'd want
> stability, hence would choose to run 'stable'. 
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Re: Newbie: What's the Best Window Manager?

[Kent West]

Eduardo B. V. Pereira wrote:

>I'm new to Linux and I would like to know which window
>manager do you think is the best one and why, to help
>choose the ones I'm going to try first.
>  
>

This question gets asked quite a bit. Here's a recent thread that should
just about cover it:

http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2005/06/msg01785.html

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Re: Newbie: What's the Best Window Manager?

[Steve Block]

On Mon, Jul 04, 2005 at 11:32:21AM -0300, Eduardo B. V. Pereira wrote:

Hi,
I'm new to Linux and I would like to know which window
manager do you think is the best one and why, to help
choose the ones I'm going to try first.


This has been covered several times in the past on this list. One of the
most recent discussions can be found here:

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/linux.debian.user/browse_thread/thread/27c44ac62e37253a/c86e93a96c7e2f6a

Note: I find google groups easier to search than the debian-user archive.

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Re: Newbie: What's the Best Window Manager?

[Harish G. Naik]

On 7/4/05, Steve Block <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 04, 2005 at 11:32:21AM -0300, Eduardo B. V. Pereira wrote:
> >manager do you think is the best one and why, to help

I like XFCE, http://xfce.org

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Re: Newbie: What's the Best Window Manager?

[kamaraju kusumanchi]

Eduardo B. V. Pereira wrote:


Hi,
I'm new to Linux and I would like to know which window
manager do you think is the best one and why, to help
choose the ones I'm going to try first.

Thank you all,
e. pereira
 

Without giving the specifications of your computer (like how fast it is, 
available computing power etc.,) It is hard to give a good suggestion on 
this. If the computer is reasonably fast, My suggestion would be to try 
KDE or GNOME.


wajig install kde

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Re: Newbie: What's the Best Window Manager?

[John Hasler]

e. pereira writes:
> I'm new to Linux and I would like to know which window manager do you
> think is the best one and why...

FVWM, because I've been using it since the early nineties and I'm used to
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perl grab /etc/group info memory error

[michael]

Hi,

I'm getting an "out of memory" error when trying to grab the gid 
information for a user from /etc/group. The problem only occurs when 
there is a group of about 1000 users in it. Less than about 500 users 
as members of the group, will not produce the error.
The original error was noticed in the old openwebmail package. I 
realize its not officially in the archives, but I'm still curious as to 
why perl bombs out.
Here's the full command I run to show the error: (this should be 
similar to what openwebmail does when a user is logging in)


# perl -e '{while (@gr = getgrent()) { ($name,$passwd,$gid,$members) = 
@gr; \ print "name: $name, passwd: $passwd, gid: $gid, members: 
$members\n"; }}'


The output appears like this:
[snip]

name: user996, passwd: x, gid: 2007, members:
name: user997, passwd: x, gid: 2008, members:
name: user998, passwd: x, gid: 2009, members:
name: user999, passwd: x, gid: 2010, members:
name: user1000, passwd: x, gid: 2011, members:
name: internet, passwd: x, gid: 1010, members: user1 user2 user3 user4 
user5 user6 user7 user8 user9 user10 user11 user12 user13 user14 user15 
user16 user17 user18 user19 user20 user21 user22 user23 user24 user25 
user26 user27 user28 user29 user30 user31 user32 user33 user34 user35 
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user501 user502 user503 use

Re: Need help with exim4 SMTP Auth [SOLVED]

[Paul E Condon]

On Mon, Jul 04, 2005 at 07:31:10AM +0530, Sridhar M.A. wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 03, 2005 at 03:56:02PM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
>>  Where can I get info. on how to resolve this?
>> I haven't found anything that looks like SMTP Authentication in the exim4
>> documentation on my machine. Is it a new feature? Or does exim4 refer to
>> it by a different name?
>> 
> It is in the docs. Just install exim4-daemon-heavy as it has everything
> enabled by default. 
> 
> Look at /etc/exim4/conf.d/auth/30_exim4-config_examples
> You can set the auth stuff there. It is working for me nicely. I just
> wish the debian exim installer would query and set the SMTP_AUTH stuff.
> 
> HTH,
> 

[Solved] I have been, and still am, a user of a mimimalist email setup.
fetchmail to get mail from my ISP, and exim set to forward my mail to
my ISP's smarthost. (the second choise of five in exim4-config).
I moved from exim4-daemon-light to exim4-daemon-heavy and ran

dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config 

again and email now works correctly again. 

I spent a little time reading info exim and the above mentioned
...config_examples before posting this message. But, for the benefit of
others who have this problem and find this in the archives: ...-heavy
contains the fix. Email was already working when I did the
reading. 

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My candidate UPS:
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Re: how to startx at boot time

[John Hasler]

James Vahn writes:
> Debian doesn't use runlevels in that manner.

Debian doesn't default to using runlevels in that manner, but you are free
to configure them any way you wish.
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Re: xmms skips all files

[David E. Fox]

On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 13:04:15 +0300
"Raymond A. Meijer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Tuesday 28 June 2005 17:10, Carl Fink wrote:

> What would you suggest? The ones you mentioned are all Video players, 
> aren't they?

amarok ! :) Seriously it's nice, but it's not something I'd run if I
had an underpowered PC. kaffeine is nice if you're using KDE, but it's
also rather consumptive of resources - but less so than amarok. Sure,
they play video, but they can be used for audio as well. Personally
don't like totem.

mplayer will play nearly anything, but it lacks playlist management
features. 

xmms is still OK in my book mostly because of the diskwriter plugin,
which is very nice if you need to decompress mp3 files. Sure there are
other ways, but sometime back I tried others (back maybe 1 yr when I
was running Mandrake) and xmms diskwriter was the only thing that
reliably decompressed variable bit rate audio. It's also very fast. 


> Ray

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Re: xmms skips all files

[David E. Fox]

On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 13:25:51 +0300
"Raymond A. Meijer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> I want it to be as minimalistic as possible. Well, not as minimalistic 
> as a console program, but you catch my drift ;)

amarok ! :)


Seriously, try beep-media-player or maybe zinf. Dunno if there are 
Debian packages for them, but I played with both a bit when I was
running Mandrake. There are a few more minimalistic players if you're a
KDE person - juk for instance, or perhaps noatun.

> Ray

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Re: xmms-mplayer can't find glib-config?(Don't think the server accepted this last time).

[David E. Fox]

On Sat, 02 Jul 2005 19:51:19 -0400
marcel usma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> im running linux mandrake kde  3.3 limited edition 2005 

install debian? :)

Well, as a long time mandrake user, I had terrible problems with the
latest (ca. 9/04) cooker and decided to jump ship -- going first
with mepis (www.mepis.org) as a springboard, then eventually pointing
all my sources to sarge when sarge got released, so atm i'm running 99%
sarge.

amarok had a lot of problems for me ca. six months ago, but it's pretty
stable now. 

> that i need to know the path to the glib-config file wich i dont
> have ... i think and that i need to install glib 1.2.2 

probably. But on mandrake you can use urpmf /usr/bin/glib-config, and
it will tell you which rpm supplies that package, even if the package
is not installed. 

ps. the mandrake lists (newbie/expert) are very nice places.

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Migrating from Windows to Debian - keeping email messages from Outlook Express

[Dom Delimar]

I'm actually not a Debian user yet, but I'm preparing to migrate from
WinXP to Debian so I thought this could be a good place to ask for
help as some of you must have been in the same situation already. I
hope.

So how can I keep all my emails from Outlook Express and integrate
them into any of the Linux mail clients? I actually don't know which
any of these are as I expect to get something when I install my Debian
package.

Since I assume there are many different mail clients for Linux, it
would help if you could just explain for the one you have used after
Outlook Express or that you know how data from Outlook Express can be
integrated into.

Thank You very much,
Dom

Re: xmms doesn't play streams, complains couldn't connect to host

[David E. Fox]

On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 16:35:57 -0400
"H. S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I have tried Ogg streams on xmms and they work. The MP3 ones do not.
> While trying to play an MP3 stream (.m3u file?), xmms reports "Couldn't
> connect to host: :".

m3u streams typically contain links to mp3 files, but not always. There
might be a problem connecting to those particular sites, for instance -
verify first if xmms has trouble playing local mp3 files. I'm skeptical
if it's an ogg vs. mp3 problem.

Also try saving the playlist to a file and use variants of

$ mplayer -playlist file.m3u 

to see if it's an xmms issue or a real issue connecting to the site(s)
that offer mp3 content.

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Re: xfce 4.2

[Simon Huggins]

On Mon, Jul 04, 2005 at 09:10:41AM -0400, Patrick Wiseman wrote:
> On 7/4/05, Patrick Wiseman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 7/4/05, Simon Huggins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On Sun, Jul 03, 2005 at 10:03:39PM -0400, Patrick Wiseman wrote:
> > > > I'm on 'testing', which xfce 4.2 _finally_ reached.  I updated with
> > > > aptitude and apparently installed xfce 4.2, restarted X Windows, and
> > > > nothing's different.  The xfce info tells me I'm still using 4.0.6.
> > > > There was no invitation to configure the package, so I guess I missed
> > > > something.  Any ideas what I need to do to get xfce 4.2 for real?
> > >
> > > Did you really install it?
> > >
> > > What does dpkg -l xfce* show you for instance?
> > As you suspected, that shows 4.0.6 installed, not 4.2.  So, my
> > question remains: aptitude d/l'ed it, but how do I install it?
> On closer examination, it appears that the only piece of 4.2 in
> testing is 'xfce4-icon-theme', so I guess I was wrong thinking it had
> made it into testing.  So I'll continue to wait.

Oh testing.  Right I missed that the first time around.   You might have
a long wait.  I've been trying to persuade the sparc and s390 buildd
admins to prod the builds but they haven't done this for everything xfce
related yet.

You (and interested parties) can track things at:
http://people.debian.org/~igloo/status.php?email=pkg-xfce-devel%40lists.alioth.debian.org&packages=&arches=

and/or

http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=xfce4

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Re: how to startx at boot time

[James Vahn]

>if [ `tty` = "/dev/tty1" ]; then

A typo -- a single = is used to assign values, not compare them.
The script should use ==, thusly:

if [ `tty` == "/dev/tty1" ]; then


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hostname change

[Haines Brown]

When I installed sarge last time, I managed to insert my FQDN in as
hostname:
  
  # hostname teufel.hartford-hwp.com

and now regret it. I must change my domain name to "hartford-hwp.com"
and leave my host name (name of my machine) as "teufel," so that the
FQDN ends up being teufel.hartford-hwp.com.

If I run the command:

  # hostname hartford-hwp.com

That seems to change it for the current boot, but it had disastrous
consequences, such as making it impossible to bring up a terminal to
change it back. 

I understand that the value of hostname resides in many places, and by
changing it only in /etc/hostname, I put my system out of sync.

1. If I change the value of /etc/hostname and reboot,
   will that new value migrate through the system so that everything
   ends up in sync? For example, does xterm reinspect the value of
   hostname during a reboot?  

2. If I set the value of hostname to be my domain name
   (hartford-hwp.com), how does the name of my machine/host
   ("teufel"), which everyone recommends that it have, get its name?

   In /etc/hosts I have:

127.0.0.1   localhost localhost.localdoman teufel.hartford-hwp.com
192.168.1.1 teufel teufel.localdomain

3. I could reconfigure the system base (# /usr/sbin/base-config) and
   when prompted for hostname, put in just my domainname
   (hartford-hwp.com), and then reboot, which I assume will propagate
   this value to all applications. But where then do I define my
   machine's name ("teufel")? As it is now, 

   $ hostname
 teufel.hartford-hwp.com
   $ hostname -d 
 [nothing regurns for domainname]
   $ hostname -a
 localhost.localdoman teufel.hartford-hwp.com 

4. If a reboot after a change in hostname will not take care of
   everything automatically, then it appears I must edit a number of
   files that use the hostname. I gather I shoiuld first identify them:
   
   $ find / -exec grep -l teuful.hartford-hwp.com {} \; 2>>/dev/null

   and then edit each of these files by hand, including /etc/hostname,
   to replace teufel.hartford-hwp.com with hartford-hwp.com

   Unfortunately, I don't understand the syntax here of the find
   command, and in any case, when run, nothing happens; the command
   just hangs (or do I have to wait a very long time?). 

   If I did manage to get it to work, and I did change hostname value
   everywhere, would this leave my system in sync with the new hostname
   without having to reboot it? 

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mounting usb devices consistently

[Edward Kamau]

Hi

I have a usb sd card reader a usb cruzer mini jump drive and a usb cf
card reader. I have created mount points for them as /cfcard /sdrive
and /jdrive. AT the time I set them up this corresponded
to /dev/sdb1, /dev/sdc1 and /dev/sdd1. So /etc/fstab looks like this:

 

/dev/sdb1   /cfcard  autodefaults,user,umask=000 0   0
/dev/sdc1   /sdcard autodefaults,user,umask=000 0
0
/dev/sdd1   /jdrive  autodefaults,user,umask=000 0   0

My problem is that when I plugin say the jumpdrive it getsassigned
arbitrarily (or so it seems) to either sdb1 sdc1 or sdd1. I would like
to somehow make sure that each physical device always gets the same
device name. SO the sdcard is always /dev/sdc1 and the cf card is
always /dev/sdb1. Regardless of the order in which I plug them in.

Any help will be greatly appreciated.
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Re: Migrating from Windows to Debian - keeping email messages from Outlook Express

[Jonathan Kaye]

En/La Dom Delimar ha escrit, a 04/07/05 18:52:
> I'm actually not a Debian user yet, but I'm preparing to migrate from
> WinXP to Debian so I thought this could be a good place to ask for
> help as some of you must have been in the same situation already. I
> hope.
> 
> So how can I keep all my emails from Outlook Express and integrate
> them into any of the Linux mail clients? I actually don't know which
> any of these are as I expect to get something when I install my Debian
> package.
> 
> Since I assume there are many different mail clients for Linux, it
> would help if you could just explain for the one you have used after
> Outlook Express or that you know how data from Outlook Express can be
> integrated into.
> 
> Thank You very much,
> Dom
> 
> 
Hi Dom,
My suggestion would be that you first wean yourself away from all MS
applications. Even in XP you don't really need any of them.
Here are some suggestions:
1. Email client - Thunderbird - you can export all your outlook express
stuff (mailboxes, address books) etc. to Tbird. You can do this directly
to the linux version also.
2. Browser - Firefox - ditto for IE bookmarks.
3. Office suite - openoffice (it will read all your MSOffice stuff)
Those are the basics. Once you get used to using them in XP, they'll be
familiar faces when you move to Debian. They all run on debian and look
pretty much the same. In 2 weeks you will forget you ever had Windows.
I'd personally suggest you download the netinst version of "testing"
(known as Etch). It may sound scary but it's really quite steady. To
install just burn the iso image onto a CD. Your CD burning software
should have a menu item like "Burn CD Image". It will then create a cd
you can boot from. This is all assuming that you have (a) a CD burner
and (b) a reasonably fast connection to the internet. The CD will
install the basic (including your internet connection) and you can
download the rest as part of the installation process. Be sure to select
the 2.6 kernel and you will have an easy time of getting your sound
working. Make sure you know the specs of your hardware: video card,
monitor, network card (although I never needed that; Debian always
spotted it), sound card, keyboard, mouse. At some point you will get a
chance to select components you want installed. If you don't have space
problems be generous. Select everything you could conceivably use. You
can always get rid of stuff you don't need later.
Learn to google.
Remember the names: alsa (sound), cups (printing), samba (LAN; sharing,
shared printing). Get comfortable running stuff from command line.
Remember this filename: /etc/apt/sources.list - this is where all your
free goodies come from and you may add to it now and then.
Remember this filename: /etc/X11/XF86Config-4
This is where all your X-settings are kept. When something goes wrong,
you need to change settings here.
Get used to reading the helpfiles, manuals, etc. Search for answers
yourself before asking for help.
All this sounds so different from Windows but I'm an old geezer, over
60. It took me about a week to get used to all this.
Have fun and enjoy debian.
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Debian Sound Configuration

[Leonardo Sá]

I have a C-Media 8738 Sound Card (not onboard), but I have no clue
where to configure it. I have 5.1 speakers that works fine under
windows, but only the front speakers works under sarge out of the box.
I Tried to understand the alsa and oss sound systems but documentation
over the internet seems to be a little bit confuse... Anyone has any
ideas?

Best Regards,
Leo

Re: sarge and sound

[David Clymer]

On Sun, 2005-07-03 at 23:29 -0400, Rick Pasotto wrote:
> I'm using the built-in sound on a km4m-v msi motherboard. I get sound
> from xine, xmms, and mp3blaster but nothing from cdplayer and when I
> enable the gnome sound server startup all I get is a bunch of static.
> 
> What have I overlooked?

xine, xmms, and mp3blaster are probably using ALSA (the linux sound
subsystem) directly, while cdplayer is using ESD (the gnome sound
interface).

Do other CD audio players work? If not, it may be that the problem is
limited to your CD audio (CD audio cable plugged in?). If say, totem, or
rythmbox don't produce any sound then you can be sure that the problem
is gnome-wide, meaning that there is a good chance it has to do with
ESD. Without more details, that's about all the direction I can give
you.

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Re: Package insall/uninstall weird behaviour

[David Clymer]

On Sat, 2005-07-02 at 16:30 -0400, adijr . wrote:
> 
> Removing hl5140lpr ...
> /var/lib/dpkg/info/hl5140lpr.postrm: line 3: /etc/init.d/lpd: No such file 
> or directory
> dpkg: error processing hl5140lpr (--remove):
> subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 127
> Errors were encountered while processing:
> hl5140lpr
> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
> RESULT=100
> 
> Any ideas how to get rid of the old pacake so i can install the new one..? 
> or how to reinstall the new one Over the old?
> 

Well, one way to do it would be to
edit /var/lib/dpkg/info/hl5140lpr.postrm.

you could just stick:

exit 0

at the top of the script, or you could be a bit more surgical and
comment out the offending line or block of code that requires the
existance of /etc/init.d/lpd.

Alternatively, you could create a the file it is looking for:

# touch /etc/init.d/lpd

None of these are real beautiful solutions, but they should get the
package uninstalled for you.

hope that helps.

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Re: Package insall/uninstall weird behaviour

[michael]

On Mon, 2005-07-04 at 14:25 -0400, David Clymer wrote:
> On Sat, 2005-07-02 at 16:30 -0400, adijr . wrote:
> > 
> > Removing hl5140lpr ...
> > /var/lib/dpkg/info/hl5140lpr.postrm: line 3: /etc/init.d/lpd: No such file 
> > or directory
> > dpkg: error processing hl5140lpr (--remove):
> > subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 127
> > Errors were encountered while processing:
> > hl5140lpr
> > E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
> > RESULT=100
> > 
> > Any ideas how to get rid of the old pacake so i can install the new one..? 
> > or how to reinstall the new one Over the old?
> > 
> 
> Well, one way to do it would be to
> edit /var/lib/dpkg/info/hl5140lpr.postrm.
> 
> you could just stick:
> 
> exit 0
> 
> at the top of the script, or you could be a bit more surgical and
> comment out the offending line or block of code that requires the
> existance of /etc/init.d/lpd.
> 
> Alternatively, you could create a the file it is looking for:
> 
> # touch /etc/init.d/lpd
> 
> None of these are real beautiful solutions, but they should get the
> package uninstalled for you.
> 
> hope that helps.

IIRC there was also discussion of this (and which drivers to use for
this printer) on the linuxprinting website (and prob archives of D-U
too)

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Re: SSH and X11 Forwrding query

[Dean Allen Provins]

Gentlemen:

Thanks to your recommendations (from Jacob S, John Smith, Tony
Godshall), it worked once I turned it on in /etc/ssh/sshd_config.

I must have done that when I used it before, but I've completely
forgotten.  Thanks again.

Regards,

Dean

On Sun, Jul 03, 2005 at 12:54:51PM +0200, John Smith wrote:
> On Sat, 2 Jul 2005 15:23:24 -0500
> Jacob S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > On Sat, 2 Jul 2005 14:09:42 -0600
> > Dean Allen Provins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > Hello:
> > > 
> > > I have used SSH and X Forwarding successfully in the past, but since
> > > moving to Sarge, it refuses to co-operate.  Either I can't
> > > read/understand the documentation or there's something new.
> > > 
> > > >From work, I can ssh or scp to home using a host.domain address.  At
> > > home I've added 3 lines to my .ssh/config file:
> > > 
> > >   Host my_work.dyndns.org
> > >   User my_user
> > >   ForwardX11 yes
> > > 
> > > where the host address is another host.domain address that I
> > > registered with dyndns.org (great service).  My user name and hostname
> > > at "my_work" are not the same as at home.  Both IP addresses are
> > > correctly deduced by DNS from the host.domain's that I registered. 
> > > Both hosts are behind firewalls and have private addresses
> > > (192.168.x.x).
> > > 
> > > When I connect from work, the DISPLAY variable is NOT set.  I've tried
> > > the command line option as well as the "config" file above.
> > > 
> > > Anyone have any ideas on what I'm doing incorrectly or have knowledge
> > > of why this setup will consistently fail?
> > 
> > Do you have "X11Forwarding yes" set in /etc/ssh/sshd_config? (Make
> > sure to run "/etc/init.d/ssh restart" if you make changes to that
> > file.) The "ForwardX11 yes" line in your ~/.ssh/config file will only
> > affect _outgoing_ connections from that computer, not incoming. Plus,
> > both "ForwardX11 yes" and -X will only work if the "X11Forwarding yes"
> > line is set in the sshd_config file.
> > 
> > HTH,
> > Jacob
> > 
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> 
> Hi All,
> 
>   another thing that might be the cause of this problems is that
> xauth is not installed on the box you'r trying to connect to.
> 
>   Check with
> 
>   dpkg -l xbase-clients
> 
>   and install with
> 
>   apt-get install xbase-clients.
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Jan.
> 
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Re: does Sarge have a /boot/boot-menu.b file?

[Andreas Janssen]

Hello

Luke Call (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

> I just upgraded from Woody and it hangs at the beginning of bootup
> after saying just "LI" where it used to say "LILO". I tried running
> lilo manually but it requires a /boot/boot.b file. My /boot/boot.b
> appears to be a symlink to /boot/boot-menu.b, which doesn't exist. So
> I was wondering if that file is supposed to be part of Sarge, or if
> it's something else...

Check your lilo installation. Also look for Grub files in /boot, maybe
you accidentially deinstalled lilo and installed grub.

best regards
Andreas Janssen

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Re: Package insall/uninstall weird behaviour

[John Hasler]

David Clymer writes:
> Alternatively, you could create a the file it is looking for:

> # touch /etc/init.d/lpd

This is the way to do it.

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apt repository for my intranet

[Israel Garcia]

List, I have 14 debian sarge on my intranet, and, they have access
internet trough a http proxy server. I would like to make a mirror
repository inside my network, How can I do this?
Does anybody has any script to do this?

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Re: [OT] Good book about GNU/Linux structure

[Nobrin ;-\\]

Great! That's what I'm looking for. Do you know any text about this?

Thanks!

ps The idea of linux from scratch is great too.

> Hi Norbin,
> here is a simplified view on unix:
> hardware->kernel-modules->kernel->libraries->applications/servers
> harware(screen,mouse,hard drive,modem...)
> kernel modules allow the kernel to communicate with hardware
> the kernel controls the hardware and communicates with libraries
> libraries contain common functions or logic that program need
> applications do what you want(edit document,read mail)
> servers do thing that need to be done without interventions like
> printing, apache, disk io, swapping
> 
> there is also a desktop view:
> video hardware->video kernel modules->kernel->x libs->x
> server(xfree/xorg)->display manager->window manager
> x libs include kde,qt and gnome libs. there are tool kits for the window
> managers to draw widgets and keep track of windows
> display managers are xdm,gdm,kdm. this allow you to login to the desktop
> environment like twm,gnome,kde
> windowmanagers keep track of the windows and give them the 'buttons, 
> 'borders' and
> 'arrow'.
> 
> there is also a unix/pc boot process:
> power on-> bios->kernel->hardware/hard disk detection-> sysv init 
> system->start servers->console login
> 
> cheers,
> Kev
> 
> 
> --
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Re: apt repository for my intranet

[VSJ]

Israel Garcia wrote:

> List, I have 14 debian sarge on my intranet, and, they have access
> internet trough a http proxy server. I would like to make a mirror
> repository inside my network, How can I do this?
> Does anybody has any script to do this?
> 

Use a proxy such as apt-cacher or apt-proxy


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Re: apt repository for my intranet

[Cláudio E. Elicker]

On Monday 04 July 2005 16:54, Israel Garcia wrote:
> List, I have 14 debian sarge on my intranet, and, they have access
> internet trough a http proxy server. I would like to make a mirror
> repository inside my network, How can I do this?
> Does anybody has any script to do this?

apt-cache show apt-proxy

[]'s
Cláudio

Re: mounting usb devices consistently

[Roberto C. Sanchez]

On Mon, Jul 04, 2005 at 01:31:03PM -0400, Edward Kamau wrote:
> Hi
> 
> I have a usb sd card reader a usb cruzer mini jump drive and a usb cf
> card reader. I have created mount points for them as /cfcard /sdrive
> and /jdrive. AT the time I set them up this corresponded
> to /dev/sdb1, /dev/sdc1 and /dev/sdd1. So /etc/fstab looks like this:
> 
>  
> 
> /dev/sdb1   /cfcard  autodefaults,user,umask=000 0   0
> /dev/sdc1   /sdcard autodefaults,user,umask=000 0
> 0
> /dev/sdd1   /jdrive  autodefaults,user,umask=000 0   0
> 
> My problem is that when I plugin say the jumpdrive it getsassigned
> arbitrarily (or so it seems) to either sdb1 sdc1 or sdd1. I would like
> to somehow make sure that each physical device always gets the same
> device name. SO the sdcard is always /dev/sdc1 and the cf card is
> always /dev/sdb1. Regardless of the order in which I plug them in.
> 
> Any help will be greatly appreciated.
> emk

If you Google search for something like: udev rules usb drive, you will
find lots of info on how to configure udev to assign the same device
node to a piece of hardware. Thus, you could have /dev/cfcard,
/dev/sdcard and /dev/jdrive, which can then be mounted on your desired
mount point.

Incidentally, why put the mount points under / and not under /mnt or
/media?

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irq 11: nobody cared!

[Joan Tur]

Hallo!

The above line appears in dmesg (followed by "[] 
__report_bad_irq+0x2a/0xa0" & similar lines), and everything connected to the 
2 affected usb ports doesn't work fine (*).

For instance an usb mouse hasn't got an smooth movement.

It's a Benq JB7000 laptop, and I'm using kubuntu 5.04 & 2.6.12-cko1 kernel.

Any idea on where to look for?  Right now I have no idea  8-?

TIA  ;)

(*) from /proc/interrupts:
"11: 10  XT-PIC  uhci_hcd:usb2, uhci_hcd:usb3"
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Re: WHAT the Eff is this???

[Douglas Ward]

>
>
>
 METHOD 1. Fairly Involved, but worth a try

 a. Log in as 'root' (You probably entered a password for 'root' during the
 install, as well as a user and password)[4]
 b. Run commands to make sure the system is partly up to date:
 echo "deb ftp://ftp.egr.msu.edu/debian stable contrib main non-free" 
>> /etc/apt/sources.list

 apt-get update && apt-get install aptitude

 c. Run a command to install something pretty
 Either:
 aptitude install x-window-system kdm kde synaptic openoffice.org
 mozilla-firefox

 OR:
 aptitude install x-window-system gdm gnome synaptic openoffice.org
 mozilla-firefox

 d. Wait a bit, and try to answer any questions--some will appear. The
 default answers are usually pretty good (unless it's obvious they are
 wrong).

>
> ok so i tried method one but it said permission denied even though i was in
> the root login. i was wondering what might cause that. i was also wondering
> if i could install those through /usr/sbin/base-sonfig. also i was
> wondering if the gui isnt working because im booting the system from a
> floppy. thanks for your help. and patience with a newbie like meTrevor,
>

What step fails? If it is the first part of step b. that fails, skip it and go 
to the second part of step b. (apt-get update && apt-get install aptitude)

Is this the error?
bash: /etc/apt/sources.list: Permission denied

If that is the error, maybe you are mysteriously not root.
Type this to check:
su

If it asks for a password, enter it. If not, you are in root already. (If you 
are asked for a password, Method 1 should work again, but base-config would 
iron out most other quirks that might exist.)
If it does not ask for a password, you can run base-config
Simply type:
base-config

(I certainly didn't think about that, though I have run it to fix install 
problems--just like this situation calls for.)

If there are problems after base-config, and you want to continue this 
adventure, here are some things that will help:
Post (reply) to debian-user@lists.debian.org (I think I brought it off-list by 
accident)
Include these in the email to the list:
Permissions error
How you made the boot floppy (did you make before the install, after the 
install, during the install, and were you asked by the Debian to make it?)
Type this command and include the results (Filesystem is the most important 
column):
df -h
Does Debian share the hard disk with another OS (dual-boot)?
Do you remember anything about lilo/grub/bootloader during the install?
What happens when you type 'su'? (password, no password, Authentication 
failure?)

That should be enough to help. In the worst case, I'm guessing the boot disk 
actually loads its own Debian, and the Debian on your hard disk isn't loaded. 
If 'df -h' only shows something like /dev/fd0, but has no /dev/hd?? 
or /dev/sd?? listings (??=anyletter, any number), then this is likely the 
case, and the list can help you with the rest. (I haven't used floppies in a 
long time, and have forgotten what's avail. on the Debian boot floppy. The 
fix would then be a chroot /dev/hd?? and doing things to make the Linux 
partition bootable.)

I recommend thinking about Ubuntu if you find yourself spending more time than 
you want getting Debian running. (It's practically Debian with most user-end 
quirks ironed out--quirks like this.) If you still want to take time fixing 
this, then welcome!


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Re: dnscache resolution

[Bayrouni]

David Clymer wrote:


On Sun, 2005-07-03 at 15:10 +0200, Al Bayrouni wrote:
 


Hello all,

I installed dnscache , it is running but daes'nt resolve any names !!!

netstat -na |grep -v unix
Active Internet connections (servers and established)
Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address   Foreign Address State
tcp0  0 127.0.0.1:530.0.0.0:*   LISTEN
tcp0  0 127.0.0.1:250.0.0.0:*   LISTEN
udp19456  0 127.0.0.1:530.0.0.0:*
udp0  0 0.0.0.0:68  0.0.0.0:*
udp0  0 0.0.0.0:68  0.0.0.0:*
udp0  0 0.0.0.0:68  0.0.0.0:*
udp0  0 127.0.0.1:32857 127.0.0.1:53ESTABLISHED

Exemple : ping www.yahoo.com:
unknown host name ...

In the root file I have all the root ip's

   



What does your /etc/resolv.conf file look like? Its first nameserver
entry should be one for localhost:

nameserver 127.0.0.1


-davidc 

 


Thank you for your answer.

In /etc/resolv.conf, I have just this line: nameserver 127.0.0.1

I don't understand why dnscache daesen't works.
Howerver it is listening on 53 port.

Now I am running bind9 (cache only).
But still wainting for fixing the dnscache mistery :)

Thank you
Bayrouni.



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Is Kernel-source-2.6.8 package updated or not?

[Martin C.]

Hi all... I have a doubt about is kernel-source-2.6.8 package old or it is not.
 I usually use that package for my custom kernels, downloading it with
apt-get from official debian repository.
 Days ago, i saw a new bug for kernels 2.6.x
(http://secunia.com/advisories/15812/) but nobody in debian security
team advised about this bug, even in security-announce, and either
kernel-source-2.6.8 in debian repository was updated.
 My fear is that kernel-source-2.6.8 package have any bug and my
system is not secure for that reason.
 Anybody can answer my question about if k-s package is manteined? or
should I download and compile kernel source from kernel.org and no
more from debian repository?
 Thanks a lot everybody.

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Re: Is Kernel-source-2.6.8 package updated or not?

[Ishwar Rattan]

Is the bug critical to your usage of the system? All software
is prone to bugs! Choice is yours to make.

-ishwar

On Mon, 4 Jul 2005, Martin C. wrote:

> Hi all... I have a doubt about is kernel-source-2.6.8 package old or it is 
> not.
>  I usually use that package for my custom kernels, downloading it with
> apt-get from official debian repository.
>  Days ago, i saw a new bug for kernels 2.6.x
> (http://secunia.com/advisories/15812/) but nobody in debian security
> team advised about this bug, even in security-announce, and either
> kernel-source-2.6.8 in debian repository was updated.
>  My fear is that kernel-source-2.6.8 package have any bug and my
> system is not secure for that reason.
>  Anybody can answer my question about if k-s package is manteined? or
> should I download and compile kernel source from kernel.org and no
> more from debian repository?
>  Thanks a lot everybody.
>
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> Saludos.
> Martin C.
>
>


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Still not fixed ipup problem.

[Alan Chandler]

I am still finding that ipup is failing to bring up my ethernet interface with 
the correct ip address.  Its still the same problem I raised approx a month 
ago.

Effectively I get  two RTNETLINK answers failures during 
the /etc/init.d/networking start sequence as shown from /var/log/boot snippet 
below.

Mon Jul  4 19:36:54 2005: Setting up IP spoofing protection: rp_filter.
Mon Jul  4 19:36:54 2005: Configuring network interfaces...RTNETLINK answers: 
Cannot assign requested address
Mon Jul  4 19:36:55 2005: Internet Software Consortium DHCP Client 2.0pl5
Mon Jul  4 19:36:55 2005: Copyright 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999 The Internet 
Software Consortium.
Mon Jul  4 19:36:55 2005: All rights reserved.
Mon Jul  4 19:36:55 2005:
Mon Jul  4 19:36:55 2005: Please contribute if you find this software useful.
Mon Jul  4 19:36:55 2005: For info, please visit 
http://www.isc.org/dhcp-contrib.html
Mon Jul  4 19:36:55 2005:
Mon Jul  4 19:36:56 2005: Listening on LPF/eth0/00:50:da:cf:a5:06
Mon Jul  4 19:36:56 2005: Sending on   LPF/eth0/00:50:da:cf:a5:06
Mon Jul  4 19:36:56 2005: Sending on   Socket/fallback/fallback-net
Mon Jul  4 19:36:56 2005: DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 
interval 3
Mon Jul  4 19:36:56 2005: DHCPOFFER from 192.168.0.20
Mon Jul  4 19:36:58 2005: DHCPREQUEST on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
Mon Jul  4 19:36:58 2005: DHCPACK from 192.168.0.20
Mon Jul  4 19:36:58 2005: bound to 192.168.0.21 -- renewal in 10800 seconds.
Mon Jul  4 19:37:00 2005: RTNETLINK answers: Cannot assign requested address

I can't find any explanation of what these RTNETLINK messages are, and in what 
circumstances they appear.  All that happens is the my ipaddress is not set 
to that offered by the dhcp server.

Anybody any ideas of where to look for a solution?


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Re: Is Kernel-source-2.6.8 package updated or not?

[Roberto C. Sanchez]

On Mon, Jul 04, 2005 at 06:39:38PM -0300, Martin C. wrote:
> Hi all... I have a doubt about is kernel-source-2.6.8 package old or it is 
> not.
>  I usually use that package for my custom kernels, downloading it with
> apt-get from official debian repository.
>  Days ago, i saw a new bug for kernels 2.6.x
> (http://secunia.com/advisories/15812/) but nobody in debian security
> team advised about this bug, even in security-announce, and either
> kernel-source-2.6.8 in debian repository was updated.

You are correct that the kernel-source has not yet been updated.  Don't
forget that Debian has to coordinate the build and simulataneous release
of lots of kernel-image-* packages.  Even with that, serious and
critical vulnerabilities (of which the one you cite is not) are dealt
with swiftly.

>  My fear is that kernel-source-2.6.8 package have any bug and my
> system is not secure for that reason.
>  Anybody can answer my question about if k-s package is manteined? or
> should I download and compile kernel source from kernel.org and no
> more from debian repository?
That would be a Bad Idea(TM).  Kernels shipping from kernel.org are
never patched for security.  They simply release new versions.  Thus, if
kernel x.y.z works for you and some critical vulnerability is announced,
you will have to upgrade to kernel x.y.z+1.  the reason for that is
becuase kernel.org does not directly support end users.  It is primarily
a source for distribution packagers and maintainers to obtain sources
from which to build distribution-specific kernels.

If you wanted to continue using kernel x.y.z, you would need to manually
backport the security fix yourself (or hire someone to do it, or find
work that has already been done on it, e.g., as from the Debian kernel
team).

>  Thanks a lot everybody.
You're welcome.

-Roberto

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dh-make-perl problem

[Tom Allison]

First, I'm not sure if this is the best list but it's probably the best
start.

The problem I am having is part debian, part dh-make-perl and probably
perl.  But I'm not sure where one ends and the other begins.  So I
thought I would begin here and see where it takes me.

I am having trouble installing Devel::Cover via dh-make-perl with the
following:

dh-make-perl --build --cpan Devel::Cover

Devel-Cover-0.53/session.vim
Devel-Cover-0.53/all_versions
Removing previously used /home/tom/.cpan/build/Devel-Cover-0.53
Found: Devel-Cover 0.53 (libdevel-cover-perl arch=any)
Use of uninitialized value in substitution (s///) at
/usr/bin/dh-make-perl line 442.
Use of uninitialized value in substitution (s///) at
/usr/bin/dh-make-perl line 443.
Use of uninitialized value in substitution (s///) at
/usr/bin/dh-make-perl line 444.
Use of uninitialized value in substitution (s///) at
/usr/bin/dh-make-perl line 445.
Use of uninitialized value in substitution (s///) at
/usr/bin/dh-make-perl line 445.
Writing tests  done

I managed to fix this with the use of --desc (report bug coming on that
one)
but then I get stuck on the following:

Error: /home/tom/Devel-Cover-0.53/Makefile.PL did not return a true value
at /usr/share/perl5/Module/Depends/Intrusive.pm line 60.

running perl Makefile.PL by itself doesn't seem to have a problem.

Re: Need help with exim4 SMTP Auth [SOLVED]

[Adam Fabian]

On Mon, Jul 04, 2005 at 09:59:03AM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote:

> I moved from exim4-daemon-light to exim4-daemon-heavy and ran
...
> others who have this problem and find this in the archives: ...-heavy
> contains the fix. Email was already working when I did the

The light version does SMTP auth and TLS encryption with appropriate
configuration modifications.  The heavy version pulls in a lot of ugly
dependencies for a small mail setup.

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Re: Migrating from Windows to Debian - keeping email messages from Outlook Express

[Adam Fabian]

On Mon, Jul 04, 2005 at 06:52:51PM +0200, Dom Delimar wrote:
> So how can I keep all my emails from Outlook Express and integrate
> them into any of the Linux mail clients? I actually don't know which


To the best of my knowledge, and I'm no Outlook expert by any means,
Outlook is holding your data hostage in a proprietary Micrsoft format
and will not export to any one of the standard formats that could very
easily be imported into a Linux email client.

The easiest thing to do, if the server has all your old email (IMAP, a
POP3 account where the emails weren't being deleted) is to download it
again from the server, having set some appropriate client rules to split
it off into various folders.

You're better off getting out of Microsoft's proprietary trap now if you
can.  You might be able to find some program that can usefully parse
your emails out of the PST file, or a Windows client (maybe Eudora; I
don't really know) that will import Microsoft Outlook files and export
to mbox or maildir format.  (Windows clients in general, in my limited
experience with them, are all plauged by proprietary formats and don't
like to share.)

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Re: [OT] - UPS APC

[Douglas Ward]

On Monday 04 July 2005 12:15, Andrea Ganduglia wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am buying a UPS APC, for three PC.Anyone having problems
> with "apcupsd - APC UPS Power Management" on Sarge, or it that people
> said works very well?
>
> My candidate UPS:
> http://www.apcc.com/products/configure/index.cfm?show_power_module=NO&SERVI
>CENEW_OPTION3=none&SERVICENEW_OPTION2=none&FULL_SKU=SUA2200I&RUNTIMELABEL=0:
>23&BASE_SKU=SUA2200I&WARRANTY_OPTION1=none&SERVICENEW_OPTION1=none&SMARTSLOT
>_OPTION1=none&NSMARTSLOTCOUNT=1&FNL=4606,3c&ISOCountryCode=IT&rslr_check=0

apcupsd is what I use. It works very well for me (with a Belkin-branded APC 
unit). With mine, I ended up using the serial interface. If there is trouble, 
it will be finding what magic control number to use (in the configuration 
file). But, tools are included with the package to test communication.

For clients, apcupsd works flawlessly for me. All the computers go through 
shutdown routines and power down when the master gives the signal! (I think 
it is unique in this feature, but I do not remember.)

I think there is an apcd for the SmartUPS series even though apcupsd has 
configs for SmartUPS too (though I do not remember much--I hooked up the UPS 
a few years ago).

I know there are compatibility problems when APC ships new versions of the 
protocol, or when APC units are re-branded. Maybe someone here knows about 
the specific model: APC Smart-UPS 2200VA USB & Serial 230V


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Re: Is Kernel-source-2.6.8 package updated or not?

[Martin C.]

Hi and thanks for aswering...

> You are correct that the kernel-source has not yet been updated.  Don't
> forget that Debian has to coordinate the build and simulataneous release
> of lots of kernel-image-* packages.  Even with that, serious and
> critical vulnerabilities (of which the one you cite is not) are dealt
> with swiftly.

Yes, I know that, but I saw that situation (kernel-source not updated)
and I didnt know if always was the same... but you tell me that it is
mantained and that's ok for me. You had cleared my doubt about this,
so I thank you very much.

> That would be a Bad Idea(TM).  Kernels shipping from kernel.org are
> never patched for security.  They simply release new versions.  Thus, if
> kernel x.y.z works for you and some critical vulnerability is announced,
> you will have to upgrade to kernel x.y.z+1.  the reason for that is
> becuase kernel.org does not directly support end users.  It is primarily
> a source for distribution packagers and maintainers to obtain sources
> from which to build distribution-specific kernels.

Ok, I didnt know that... :)

Thanks again and sorry my ogly english :)

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