Re: CUPS to USB printing no longer working

[Andrea Vettorello]

On Sat, 9 Oct 2004 10:07:48 +1000, Robert S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I should check, but yes, probably you'll find a
> > kernel-image-2.4.18-1-k6 on Woody.
> >
> 
> Should I use kernel-image-2.4.18-k6 or kernel-image-2.4.18-1-k6?  Sorry
> about basic questions.  I'm quite new to debian.  Also - my life would not
> be worth living if I screwed up the office system.
> 

I don't have a Woody system right now to check, i've looked on
http://packages.debian.org and found a kernel-image-2.4.18-1-k6, but
your apt will find it only if you have a line that point to
security.debian.org. The line is

deb http://security.debian.org stable/updates main contrib non-free

I suggest you to add it to your /etc/apt/sources.list if missing, and
update your box with the standard "apt-get update; apt-get
dist-upgrade" commands. This will update only the packages that needs
security fixes.


Andrea


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Re: User unable to startx

[Andrea Vettorello]

On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 01:46:04 -0600, nobut1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello.  I recently have run upon a very annoying problem.  For reasons
> unknown, I can no longer start X from a standard user account.  Root
> can startx fine.  A user can change to su and startx X fine.  But
> whenever a standard user attempts to startx, they get a long list of
> errors culminating with /dev/null (Permission Denied).
> 
> I am curious to exactly what could cause such an error and exactly how
> one would go about fixing such a problem.
> 

dpkg-reconfigure xserver-common


Andrea


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Re: User unable to startx

[Jacob S]

On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 01:46:04 -0600
nobut1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello.  I recently have run upon a very annoying problem.  For reasons
> 
> unknown, I can no longer start X from a standard user account.  Root 
> can startx fine.  A user can change to su and startx X fine.  But 
> whenever a standard user attempts to startx, they get a long list of 
> errors culminating with /dev/null (Permission Denied).
> 
> I am curious to exactly what could cause such an error and exactly how
> 
> one would go about fixing such a problem.

The most common problem I have seen that causes a problem like this is a
hard drive with no free space left. If everything is installed on one
partition, it means the system won't let the user write to /tmp/ or
~/ any more, among other important ones.

If 'du -hs' reports this to be the actual problem, you might try
'apt-get clean' as a quick stop-gap measure to get into X and clean out
any unimportant files. Even better is if you have empty partitions you
can transfer some files to or another hard drive you can add, but I
realize we don't always have that luxury.

HTH,
Jacob


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[no subject]

[Howard Chin]

>> On Friday 08 October 2004 02:40, Howard Chin wrote:
>> I installed woody using the stable distribution a few weeks ago. Recently
>> I decided to upgrade to the testing distribution because the packages are
>> more up-to-date in that distribution.
>> So I changed the apt source in /etc/apt/source.list and replace the word
>> "stable" with "testing" in the http entry.
>> I then used dselect to update the package list and installed all the
>> recommended packages and upgrades.
>> After the upgrade, I can no longer boot. The system hang right after the
>> BIOS screen with only "Li" printed. Seemed like something went wrong with
>> the bootloader. Can someone let me know how it can be fixed?
>> Howard
>
> Hi Howard,
>
> According to the Lilo man page, the first stage loader tried to pass control
> to the second stage loader, but it detected an error.  Are any hex digits
> printed after the LI?  If so, they give information about the nature of the
> error.

First thanks for your response, Justin; but no unfortunately, there is nothing
after LI
>
> It is very unusual that upgrading your software would cause boot problems of
> this nature.  Did you change any hardware configuration?  Did you install a
> new kernel?

No. The HW has not changed. I am not sure if the kernel is upgraded or not. I
didn't check the dselect list of SW upgrade. However, it doesn't look like the
kernel has been loaded yet at the failing point.
If I am not mistaken, I think lilo itself may have been upgraded. I am not
sure about this but I think I saw some messages about upgrading lilo scrolled
past the screen.
I think the first thing I will need is to mount the HD so that I can have
access to the HD. I can boot using a CD to a shell. There are a few important
files that I want to rescue. If I can do that, the worse case is to reinstall
the system which I can afford to do since I have only been building up my
server and have not put it to any real work yet.
I am newish to linux and am not quite sure how to mnt the HD. It will be much
appreciated if someone can let me know how.
Thanks.
Howard



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Re: New user Q: Best way to stay up to date on "testing"?

[Kevin Mark]

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On Fri, Oct 08, 2004 at 04:05:31PM -0500, Jacob S wrote:
> On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 15:18:02 -0500
> JW <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> > I was reading the security FAQ and am somewhat alarmed to find (if I 
> > understand correctly) that Testing is not actively supported by the
> > security team. Youch. If I could put stable on it I would, but for the
> > reasons stated above I can't.
> 
> 'Testing' is not actively supported, correct until you near release
> time. Sarge has entered a freeze for the base packages, is in that 'near
> release time' phase and is now getting security updates along with the
> current 'Stable' (Woody). Sarge is expected to be released as the new
> stable 'any day now'.
> 
> 
Hi Folks,
I can echo what Jacob said. there is only one release of debian: stable.
testing is not a distrabusion--its just for folks testing stuff that at
some point will go into stable. things can pop-in and pop-out
unextectedly like all of kde. unstable is a pseudo-distro where you just 
get an influx of the latest packages. Things go reasonable smoothly in unstable but
there are times when a few packages get broken and you may need to
backtrack something or WAIT until folks say its OK to upgrade.

But there is something to note: testing goes through stages. After a
release testing is the same as the new stable. After a few months
testing is then all mixed up with all new stuff. Then as things get more
tested, testing become 'near' stable. Which is how it is now. At this
point Debian starts to add security updates for testing/the next stable.
This is sometimes called the 'frozen' release. And after some release
critical issues: stable is born.

also there are two ways to track debian: via release names(sarge) or via
distributions(testing).
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Re: User unable to startx

[gerhard]

Am Sonntag 10 Oktober 2004 09:46 schrieb nobut1:
> [...] But whenever a standard user attempts to startx, they get a
> long list of errors culminating with /dev/null (Permission Denied).
> [...]

Hello,

It might be helpfull to post the relevant parts of the XFree86.0.log 

$ egrep "(\(EE\)|\(WW\)|\(NI\)|\(\?\?\)|\(\!\!\))" 
/var/log/XFree86.0.log   

Kind regards

Gerhard Gaußling

Re: New user Q: Best way to stay up to date on "testing"?

[Albert Ulmer]

On Sat, 9 Oct 2004 03:38:18 -0400, Kevin Mark
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> 
> On Fri, Oct 08, 2004 at 04:05:31PM -0500, Jacob S wrote:
> > On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 15:18:02 -0500
> > JW <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > 
> >
> > > I was reading the security FAQ and am somewhat alarmed to find (if I
> > > understand correctly) that Testing is not actively supported by the
> > > security team. Youch. If I could put stable on it I would, but for the
> > > reasons stated above I can't.
> >
> > 'Testing' is not actively supported, correct until you near release
> > time. Sarge has entered a freeze for the base packages, is in that 'near
> > release time' phase and is now getting security updates along with the
> > current 'Stable' (Woody). Sarge is expected to be released as the new
> > stable 'any day now'.
> >
> > 
> Hi Folks,
> I can echo what Jacob said. there is only one release of debian: stable.
> testing is not a distrabusion--its just for folks testing stuff that at
> some point will go into stable. things can pop-in and pop-out
> unextectedly like all of kde. unstable is a pseudo-distro where you just
> get an influx of the latest packages. Things go reasonable smoothly in unstable but
> there are times when a few packages get broken and you may need to
> backtrack something or WAIT until folks say its OK to upgrade.
> 
> But there is something to note: testing goes through stages. After a
> release testing is the same as the new stable. After a few months
> testing is then all mixed up with all new stuff. Then as things get more
> tested, testing become 'near' stable. Which is how it is now. At this
> point Debian starts to add security updates for testing/the next stable.
> This is sometimes called the 'frozen' release. And after some release
> critical issues: stable is born.
> 
> also there are two ways to track debian: via release names(sarge) or via
> distributions(testing).

I think by now it is time to switch from testing to sarge in your
/etc/apt/sources.list. This will easily let you settle on the future
stable release without having to worry that at some point in time
everything will get switch from unstable->testing and testing->stable.
The codenames (potato, woody, sarge, etc.) provide a much more stable
migration path IMHO, because sarge will always be sarge, even though
it is now testing and will be stable soon.


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Re: opengl, ati radeon mobility m7

[Andrea Vettorello]

On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 13:53:29 -0700 (PDT), Richard Weil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I took a quick look at the dri troubleshooting and I couldn't find
> anything specific to the Mobility series.
> 
> The dri pages made me think, though ... should the kernel be loading
> any particular modules as opposed to XFree? Looking at lsmod, I have:
> 
> radeon
> intel_agp
> agpgart
> 
> There is no drm kernel module. All of the dri, drm, glx is in the XFree
> log. Is there a missing kernel module?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
> --- Roberto Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Paolo Alexis Falcone wrote:
> > > On Thu, 7 Oct 2004 16:54:10 -0700 (PDT), Richard Weil
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >>What does it take to get hardware accelerated open gl working?
> > >
> > >
> > > Try using the "radeon" driver instead of the "ati" driver and see
> > what happens.
> >
> > I believe that the Mobility series of Radeons use an entirely
> > different
> > chipset, which is not understood by the DRI developers.
> >
> > The only feasible way (of which I know) to get DRI on the Mobility
> > Radeon is to use the proprietary fglrx drivers from ATI.  Just a
> > warning though, their quality is lacking.
> >

On your XF86Config-4 are you using "ati" or "radeon" driver?

Regarding your question about kernel modules, DRI/DRM needs a kernel
infrastructure and is provided by a module for your card (in your case
the radeon kernel module) and a module for your chipset (in your case
the intel_agp).

I suppose you're using a Debian kenel image, and seems the modules are
correctly loaded, anyway you can try to load the manually, i think in
this order intel_agp, agpgart, radeon then start X and look with
glxinfo if you have DRI working.


Andrea

P.S. found this on google http://www.nuclearelephant.com/papers/t30.html


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Re: CUPS to USB printing no longer working

[Robert S]

> deb http://security.debian.org stable/updates main contrib non-free
>
> I suggest you to add it to your /etc/apt/sources.list if missing, and
> update your box with the standard "apt-get update; apt-get
> dist-upgrade" commands. This will update only the packages that needs
> security fixes.
>

Thanks for your help.  Upgrading debian kernels has always been a bit of a 
mystery to me and your answers help to resolve this.  Looks as if my 
existing kernel is suss anyway.  Will install kernel-image-2.4.18-1-k6 when 
I get a free moment.  Don't have courage to install it remotely over a 
weekend with Monday coming up!! 




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Re: cant boot with kernel 2.6.8

[gerhard]

Am Samstag 09 Oktober 2004 02:10 schrieb Ian L:
> [..]
> > [..]
> > As for why one kernel boots and the other doesn't, I don't know.  I
> > suspect it's related to your bootloader and the fact that the
> > installed kernel comes from the same source as the partition table,
> > but that's a total guess.
> >
> >Justin
>
> Do you think it would be worth it to try re-installing and using grub
> instead of lilo? or loading it into the MBR instead of the partition?
>
> thanks again.
>
> Ian

Hello Ian,

I think it's not necessary to reinstall the whole system, particulary if 
you have the install cd's, a bootfloppy or a knoppix system.

First have alook in the lilo doc's to figure out how you have messed up 
your lilo.conf (I think it's due to accidental misconfiguration). Type:
$ egrep -A35 "('LI')" /usr/share/doc/lilo/README.common.problems

Then you can boot from a cd and change to a console by typing ALT+F2.
Make shure that you're root.

# fdisk -l /dev/{Your 1st hd} /dev/{your 2nd hd} (optional)
# mount /dev/{your rootpartitition} /mnt/elsewhere
# chroot /mnt/elsewhere
# mount -a
# $EDITOR /etc/lilo.conf (edit your lilo.conf with your prefered editor)
# lilo
# reboot

If you can figure out why you got this 'LI' error from lilo (see the 
docs), than this could be a useful way to solve your problem.

Kind regards

Gerhard Gaußling

Re: cant boot with kernel 2.6.8

[gerhard]

Am Samstag 09 Oktober 2004 02:10 schrieb Ian L:
> using grub
> instead of lilo

Hello,

this also should be possible without reinstalling the whole system.
But I'm not familar with grub, but it has got his own shell and is very 
flexible. So, if you have a bootfloppy with the bootloader grub you 
should be able to  boot into your system. And then you could install a 
proper bootloader into the MBR of your disk.

regards

Gerhard Gaußling

Re: woody: boot fail after upgrade

[Howard Chin]

>> On Friday 08 October 2004 02:40, Howard Chin wrote:
>> I installed woody using the stable distribution a few weeks ago. Recently
>> I decided to upgrade to the testing distribution because the packages are
>> more up-to-date in that distribution.
>> So I changed the apt source in /etc/apt/source.list and replace the word
>> "stable" with "testing" in the http entry.
>> I then used dselect to update the package list and installed all the
>> recommended packages and upgrades.
>> After the upgrade, I can no longer boot. The system hang right after the
>> BIOS screen with only "Li" printed. Seemed like something went wrong with
>> the bootloader. Can someone let me know how it can be fixed?
>> Howard
>
> Hi Howard,
>
> According to the Lilo man page, the first stage loader tried to pass control
> to the second stage loader, but it detected an error.  Are any hex digits
> printed after the LI?  If so, they give information about the nature of the
> error.

First thanks for your response, Justin; but no unfortunately, there is nothing
after LI
>
> It is very unusual that upgrading your software would cause boot problems of
> this nature.  Did you change any hardware configuration?  Did you install a
> new kernel?

No. The HW has not changed. I am not sure if the kernel is upgraded or not. I
didn't check the dselect list of SW upgrade. However, it doesn't look like the
kernel has been loaded yet at the failing point.
If I am not mistaken, I think lilo itself may have been upgraded. I am not
sure about this but I think I saw some messages about upgrading lilo scrolled
past the screen.


I think the first thing I will need is to mount the HD so that I can have
access to the HD. I can boot using a CD to a shell. There are a few important
files that I want to rescue. If I can do that, the worse case is to reinstall
the system which I can afford to do since I have only been building up my
server and have not put it to any real work yet.


I am newish to linux and am not quite sure how to mnt the HD. It will be much
appreciated if someone can let me know how.


Thanks.
Howard



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Re: Parallel Port Scanner Support?

[Greg Madden]

On Friday 08 October 2004 07:06 pm, Scarletdown wrote:
> I just recently hooked up my flatbed scanner to my system in hopes of
> actually being able to use it.  It is connected to the parallel port,
> powered up, and I have installed xsane as well as the sane plugin for
> GIMP.  However, xsane is not able to see the scanner.  I just get a
> less than helpful "no devices available" message.
>
> What do I need to do to get this scanner working?  It is an Info
> Peripherals Image Reader Ultra, Model FB7.  The FCC I.D. is
> jsf-fb262, which Google and Jeeves searches show it to actually be an
> Avision AV260C.
>
> Any ideas what drivers I need for this scanner, and where to get
> them?

I dislike sounding so negative but a parallel port scanner is, afaik, 
very old technology. Some new scanners are so cheap, and supported by 
xsane..etc that the time/money you save by investing in a new scanner, 
usb, is worth the expense. If needed you can get a pci usb 2.0 card 
that works with Debian, and is fast. Parallel ports are relatively 
slow.
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Re: cant boot with kernel 2.6.8

[gerhard]

Am Samstag 09 Oktober 2004 10:23 schrieb gerhard:
>
> If you can figure out why you got this 'LI' error from lilo (see the
> docs), than this could be a useful way to solve your problem.
>

Hello,

I'm sorry, but I confounded the threads. My answer fits to:
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.user/168773

sorry, again

Gerhard Gaußling

Re: Mutt/GPG: *un*encrypted copies to self?

[Shot (Piotr Szotkowski)]

Hello.

Martin Dickopp:

> a standard solution to this problem is to encrypt the message with
> your own key in addition to the recipient's key. GnuPG will do this
> automatically if you put the line
> 
> encrypt-to "your-key-id"
> 
> in your ~/.gnupg/gpg.conf file.

Thanks, Martin, Johann and Andreas! This works wonders.

Cheers,
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Re: CUPS to USB printing no longer working

[Andrea Vettorello]

On Sat, 9 Oct 2004 18:06:53 +1000, Robert S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > deb http://security.debian.org stable/updates main contrib non-free
> >
> > I suggest you to add it to your /etc/apt/sources.list if missing, and
> > update your box with the standard "apt-get update; apt-get
> > dist-upgrade" commands. This will update only the packages that needs
> > security fixes.
> >
> 
> Thanks for your help.  Upgrading debian kernels has always been a bit of a
> mystery to me and your answers help to resolve this.  Looks as if my
> existing kernel is suss anyway.  Will install kernel-image-2.4.18-1-k6 when
> I get a free moment.  Don't have courage to install it remotely over a
> weekend with Monday coming up!!
> 

Remember to check your lilo.conf and run "lilo" afterwards, and for
any measure, keep a rescue disk handy (your Debian installation disk
will do the job =)...


Andrea


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ALSA

[Roger Creasy]

I am running sarge and kernel 2.6.8 with KDE. On startup, sound works fine, but it is starting as OSS, I think. If I go to tools->sound and change from 'auutomatic' to ALSA, I get an error box that says no device found, using null output. What do I need to do to be able to use ALSA? 
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Re: Display Set-Up

[Alban Browaeys]

>I do know the dpkg-reconfigure stuff is a pretty feature for many users,
>but not for me. I can not believe it has an effect to the configure 
>file, specially you have a wrony one first. May be a video card probe 
>tool can give me some help, but the package reconfigure couldn't do it.

If you don t have an existing /etc/X11/XF86Config* file it does probe the
hardware.

The tool is still unable to do most choice though works is on the way :
- lots of fix are expected for 4.3.0-dfsg.1.9
 http://necrotic.deadbeast.net/xsf/XFree86/trunk/debian/TODO
- ubuntu (fully automated for one card install ) does it pretty well
through hacks sometimes. We can expect some improvments will be included
 in debian. 

At first you could try renaming your old X config, taking care that most
 package suggested by xserver-xfree86 are installed: 
- mdetect for mouse
- read-edid for monitor frequency autodetection
- discover for video card detection

It did autodetected my stuff after i did an X purge (i was going from
 unoffical packages back to the debian ones). Though i expect moving
 the config will be enough.

Cheers
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Re: ALSA

[Andrea Vettorello]

On Sat, 9 Oct 2004 03:30:10 -0700 (PDT), Roger Creasy
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> I am running sarge and kernel 2.6.8 with KDE. On startup, sound works fine,
> but it is starting as OSS, I think. If I go to tools->sound and change from
> 'auutomatic' to ALSA, I get an error box that says no device found, using
> null output. What do I need to do to be able to use ALSA? 
> 

You are short on details but i suspect hotplug is loading the OSS
module before the ALSA one, so i suggest you to blacklist it, i.e. put
the OSS module name in your /etc/hotplug/blacklist file.


Andrea


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horde2, imp & mysql

[Simon Collyer]

Has any one got any howto's on how to do this?

I've installed the packages but can't seem
to find anything of where to set the mysql
db's etc.

If anyone has managed to do this and has written
some doco, i would love to read it.

Thanks

Simon


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Re: ALSA

[Roger Creasy]

> i suspect hotplug is
> loading the OSS
> module before the ALSA one, so i suggest you to
> blacklist it, i.e. put
> the OSS module name in your /etc/hotplug/blacklist
> file.
> 

Sounds logical to me. how/where do I find the OSS module?

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how to log mozilla crash?

[scorpix]

Hi,
I use Mozilla 1.7.3-5 on Sid.
My problem is that Mozilla crashed many times and i do not know the reason.
So how can i get a crash log for it so i can report a bug, like the 
backtrace in kde that appear when some kde apps crashed?


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Re: ALSA

[Andrea Vettorello]

On Sat, 9 Oct 2004 04:18:09 -0700 (PDT), Roger Creasy
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > i suspect hotplug is
> > loading the OSS
> > module before the ALSA one, so i suggest you to
> > blacklist it, i.e. put
> > the OSS module name in your /etc/hotplug/blacklist
> > file.
> >
> 
> Sounds logical to me. how/where do I find the OSS module?
> 

The module name or "physically" the module itself? 

As i've said, you don't give a lot of details, anyway "lsmod" will
show the loaded kernel modules, and "modprobe -l" will show all the
available kernel modules. In my case, a crappy integrated sound card,
the ALSA module is called "snd_via82xx" (isn't the only ALSA loaded
module...) instead the OSS is called "via82cxxx_audio" (note the
missing "snd_").

So without details i can't guess your soundcard and the module (aka
driver) it needs... =)


Andrea


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Re: New user Q: Best way to stay up to date on "testing"?

[Joost Witteveen]

Jacob S wrote:
On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 23:13:15 +0200
"Dan Roozemond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 

While we're at it - suppose someone is the only administrator of a
debian(stable) system connected to the internet permanently, with SSH,
Postfix and Bind exposed to the 'big bad' world. Say that someone is
lucky enough to take a vacation, and is not able to connect to the
machine for two weeks. How dangerous is it to have 'apt-get update;
apt-get upgrade' ran automatically every day?
No, this scenario is not entirely hypothetically ;)
   

Well, let's just say that I wouldn't do it unless I were going to be
looking for a new job while enjoying that 2 weeks of vacation. :-)
With Stable it should be rare for it to be a problem, for Sarge it
shouldn't be a problem very often, but there is still a chance for
problems in there somewhere.
 

That's how it should be. However, IIRC, all (most?) security bugs in 
packages
like ssh, bind, etc, were present both in testing and in stable.


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Re: ALSA

[Andreas Janssen]

Hello

Roger Creasy (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

> 
>> i suspect hotplug is
>> loading the OSS
>> module before the ALSA one, so i suggest you to
>> blacklist it, i.e. put
>> the OSS module name in your /etc/hotplug/blacklist
>> file.
>> 
> 
> Sounds logical to me. how/where do I find the OSS module?

lsmod tells you. You can blacklist it in /etc/hotplug/blacklist. By the
way, the latest alsa-base-package does this automatically. You do have
the ALSA userspace packages installed, right?

best regards
 Andreas Janssen

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Re: lockd: cannot unmonitor

[Bernd Schubert]

> 
> 1 lockd_down: lockd failed to exit, clearing pid
> 2 flushing ide devices: hda hdc
> 3 Power down.
> 4 lockd: cannot unmonitor 192.168.1.1
> 5 portmap: server localhost not responding, timed out
> 

[snip]

> Does anyone know how I can fix this problem?
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> Stanley.
> PS: if you need more info, let me know.
> 
> 

Hello Stanley,

yeah we know this problem. Is it a diskless nfs-client? 
Just edit the /etc/init.d/halt script, at the end there should be the line

halt -d -f -i $poweroff $hddown

The "-i" option makes all network interfaces to be shutdown, but this seems
to be too early for diskless clients, just try to remove this option, so

halt -d -f $poweroff $hddown


If it works we should send a bug report.

Cheers,
 Bernd


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installation CUPS + LexmarkZ55

[Nicolas de Sereville]

Hi,
It is my first try to install the above printer with CUPS on USB. I 
followed the instructions to install the propriatary driver 
(http://www.linuxprinting.org/lexmark-faq.html#s_15) and then I followed 
this thread: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2002/07/msg00877.html

1) I installed the following packages: cupsys, cupsys-bsd, cupsys-client 
and foomatic-bin, foomatic-db-engine, foomatic-filter.
2) I installed the foomatic-lexmark-kit, run the install and 
lexmarkinstall scripts where it generated a ppd file (the one forme the 
Z53 model)
3) ls -l /dev/usb/lp0 -> crw-rw-rw-  1 lp sys 180, 0 2002-03-14 22:54 
/dev/usb/lp0
4) I copied this ppd file to  /usr/share/cups/model/Lexmark
5) I restarted cups
6) I added my printer through the user interface.
7) I modified the /etc/cups/printers.conf so that "DeviceURI test:/dev/null"
8) I restarted cups
9) I try to print a test page and 

... of course, as a first try it doesn't work! So I read the logs and I 
can see the line:
"D [09/Oct/2004:13:56:00 +0200] [Job 10] sh: /usr/local/lexmark/z53/z53: 
No suchfile or directory" which doesn't exist since I have the Z55 model 
running with the Z53 ppd file.
I made a symlink of /usr/local/lexmark/z53/z53 to 
/usr/local/lexmark/z55/lexmarkz55 which seems to be the Z55 driver, but 
now the error is:
"D [09/Oct/2004:13:05:58 +0200] [Job 9] Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open 
display:"

I can see the jobs in the queue with a "plq" but they are not coming out 
to the printer. So as you see I am stuck. Does anyone have some ideas 
that I can try?

Nico
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if debian is used by gnu, h/c lilo not grub?

[Steve]

Hey,
I was just curious if debian is used by the gnu 
hurd guys and everything then why doesnt debian come with grub in stead of lilo 
since grub is by gnu and lilo isnt? or is it? Im guessing cause maybe its just 
that although they use it its not there call what goes into debian or not, i 
dont know im just guessing? thanks.
 
 
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Re: if debian is used by gnu, h/c lilo not grub?

[Jule Slootbeek]

The new debian-installer installed GRUB by default, i'm not sure what 
the reason is that LILO was used previously, but one can easily switch 
between them, if one chooses.

-JSS
Steve wrote:
Hey,
I was just curious if debian is used by the gnu hurd guys and everything 
then why doesnt debian come with grub in stead of lilo since grub is by 
gnu and lilo isnt? or is it? Im guessing cause maybe its just that 
although they use it its not there call what goes into debian or not, i 
dont know im just guessing? thanks.
 
 
Steve.
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Re: if debian is used by gnu, h/c lilo not grub?

[Andreas Janssen]

Hello

Steve (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

> I was just curious if debian is used by the gnu hurd guys and
> everything

There are versions of Debian coming with different kernels, including
the hurd, and of course linux.

> then why doesnt debian come with grub in stead of lilo 

Debian Woody and Sarge include both grub and lilo. The current stable
distribution Woody installs lilo by default (at least the linux
version, don't ask me about anything else). You can however choose to
switch to grub later. The installer for the next version (Sarge) seems
to choose grub by default, but you can choose lilo instead, during the
installation process.

best regards
 Andreas Janssen

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Re: ALSA

[claudio]

Andreas Janssen wrote:
Hello
Roger Creasy (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:


i suspect hotplug is
loading the OSS
module before the ALSA one, so i suggest you to
blacklist it, i.e. put
the OSS module name in your /etc/hotplug/blacklist
file.
Sounds logical to me. how/where do I find the OSS module?

lsmod tells you. You can blacklist it in /etc/hotplug/blacklist. By the
way, the latest alsa-base-package does this automatically. You do have
the ALSA userspace packages installed, right?
best regards
 Andreas Janssen
Hello
I had a similar problem in which my systems output the sound via the 
analog port instead of my digital port.
blcklistening wasnt enough solution because "discover" was running an 
uploading the oss modules and audio modules automaticly, when i removed 
the discover package i was able to load the alsa modules without 
conflicts and output sound from my digital port
i hope it will give yo a clue
claudio

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LPGETSTATUS returned a port status of 18... --- Can anyone decipher this?

[Bruce Miller]

If Eric Raymond can't configure a CUPS printer, what hope is there for 
us lesser mortals? 

I have successfully configured several printers under CUPS (including 
remote printers) and came tantalizingly close on this one. Close, but 
no cigar. CUPS appears to be successfully configured, but there is _no_ 
output.

The system to which the printer is attached is dual-boot --- although I 
spend less than 1% of my time in ``that other OS", one of its remaining 
uses is to check hardware. In this case, the printer successfully 
printed the manufacturer's test page from the final Windows install 
screen which establishes that the printer was not DOA and that the 
computer USB subsystem and cable are mechanically sound.

The printer is a brand-new Samsung SCX-4100 laser-based multifunction 
(print/copy/scan). At $Cdn 200 / US$ 149, this was an attractive deal. 
The printer is an unabashed GDI printer aka Winprinter. BUT, and this 
is the big "but", Samsung releases all its monochrome laser printers 
with Linux drivers. I bought it on the assurance in all Samsung's 
literature that it supports:

Various Linux OS (via USB interface only) including Red Hat, Caldera, 
Mandrake, Slackware, SuSE and Turbo Linux

I don't happen to run an RPM-based distribution, but nor were there 
any .rpms in the Linux directory of the Samsung CD. Instead I run 
Libranet Debian modified months ago to track pure Debian sid/unstable. 
CUPS is Debian version 1.1.20final+rc1-8. The kernel is custom built:

$ uname -a
Linux bruce_P4 2.6.7 #1 Wed Jul 7 10:41:04 EDT 2004 i686 GNU/Linux

lsmod reports successful installation of the necessary modules:

$ lsmod | grep ^u
usblp  11008  0
uhci_hcd   28944  0
usbcore67872  2 usblp,uhci_hcd

Because this is not an .rpm-based system, I was not surprised that the 
install script complained but then allowed the installation to 
continue:

Samsung MFP driver package is about to be installed on your system...

CUPS that is required for driver package to work properly was not 
detected on your system.
[1] Install CUPS
[2] I am sure I have necessary software installed. Do not 
install CUPS. Continue installation
[3] Cancel installation
Please make your choice [1,2,3]: 2

kdeprint and CUPS both appeared satisfied that the printer was 
sucessfully installed:

$ head -n17  /etc/cups/ppd/scx-4100.ppd
*PPD-Adobe: "4.3"

*FormatVersion: "4.3"
*FileVersion:   "1.1"
*LanguageVersion: English
*LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
*PCFileName:"scx4100.ppd"
*Manufacturer: "Samsung"
*Product:   "(Samsung SCX-4100 Series)"
*ModelName: "Samsung SCX-4100 Series"
*ShortNickName: "Samsung SCX-4100 Series"
*NickName:  "Samsung SCX-4100 Series"
*PSVersion: "(3010.000) 550"
*TTRasterizer:  Type42
*cupsVersion:   1.1
*cupsManualCopies: False
*cupsFilter:"application/vnd.cups-postscript 0 rastertosamsungspl"

However, the CUPS jobs screen reported that its test page job "aborted". 
Routine attempts to restart the job produced this uninformative error 
message on the CUPS jobs screen 
(http://localhost:631/jobs/?op=restart-job&job_id=4&job_printer_uri=/printers/scx-4100):
 

Error: 
client-error-not-possible

/var/log/cups/error_log at debug level might be more helpful to those 
who can read it. The key appears to be in these three lines (out of 321 
lines):

D [09/Oct/2004:08:21:07 -0400] [Job 4] Printer using device file 
"/dev/usb/lp0"...
D [09/Oct/2004:08:21:07 -0400] [Job 4] LPGETSTATUS returned a port  
status of 18...
E [09/Oct/2004:08:21:07 -0400] PID 9021 stopped with status 0!

Is someone more expert than I able to help me decipher these error 
messages? I can obviously supply reams more configuration and log data 
if that is necessary to trace the problem.

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Re: horde2, imp & mysql

[Roberto Sanchez]

Simon Collyer wrote:
Has any one got any howto's on how to do this?
I've installed the packages but can't seem
to find anything of where to set the mysql
db's etc.
If anyone has managed to do this and has written
some doco, i would love to read it.
I just did "apt-get install" with the horde packages
I wanted (imp, kronotlith, etc.) and the debconf
scripts did everything for me.  The only thing it
had to ask me for was what I wanted to set the
database's admin password to.
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Re: how to log mozilla crash?

[Roberto Sanchez]

scorpix wrote:
Hi,
I use Mozilla 1.7.3-5 on Sid.
My problem is that Mozilla crashed many times and i do not know the reason.
So how can i get a crash log for it so i can report a bug, like the 
backtrace in kde that appear when some kde apps crashed?


Something like this:
script -c "strace /usr/bin/mozilla-1.7.3" moz.log
It will save the output of the strace for you in
a file called moz.log.
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Re: lockd: cannot unmonitor

[VSJ]

Hi Bernd,

it's not a diskless client (only the Home directories and an MP3/Video share
are mounted from the server).

Your suggestion to remove the -i flag seems to work partially: the lockd
errors are gone, but the computer still doesn't power off after printing
the Power Down line to the screen, and the "portmap: server localhost not
responding, timed out" still show up after a long interval.

I'm now going to rebuild the kernel and change some APM/ACPI related
settings. By the way, the computer is an IBM 300 GL  6563-VCG:


(I have included the relevant parts of the current kernel .config below)

Thanks for your help,
Stanley.

Bernd Schubert wrote:

> Hello Stanley,
> 
> yeah we know this problem. Is it a diskless nfs-client?
> Just edit the /etc/init.d/halt script, at the end there should be the line
> 
> halt -d -f -i $poweroff $hddown
> 
> The "-i" option makes all network interfaces to be shutdown, but this
> seems to be too early for diskless clients, just try to remove this
> option, so
> 
> halt -d -f $poweroff $hddown
> 
> 
> If it works we should send a bug report.
> 
> Cheers,
>  Bernd


#
# Automatically generated make config: don't edit
#
CONFIG_X86=y
# CONFIG_SBUS is not set
CONFIG_UID16=y

#
# Code maturity level options
#
CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL=y

#
# Loadable module support
#
CONFIG_MODULES=y
CONFIG_MODVERSIONS=y
CONFIG_KMOD=y

#
# Processor type and features
#
# CONFIG_M386 is not set
# CONFIG_M486 is not set
# CONFIG_M586 is not set
# CONFIG_M586TSC is not set
# CONFIG_M586MMX is not set
# CONFIG_M686 is not set
CONFIG_MPENTIUMIII=y
# CONFIG_MPENTIUM4 is not set
# CONFIG_MK6 is not set
# CONFIG_MK7 is not set
# CONFIG_MK8 is not set
# CONFIG_MELAN is not set
# CONFIG_MCRUSOE is not set
# CONFIG_MWINCHIPC6 is not set
# CONFIG_MWINCHIP2 is not set
# CONFIG_MWINCHIP3D is not set
# CONFIG_MCYRIXIII is not set
# CONFIG_MVIAC3_2 is not set
CONFIG_X86_WP_WORKS_OK=y
CONFIG_X86_INVLPG=y
CONFIG_X86_CMPXCHG=y
CONFIG_X86_XADD=y
CONFIG_X86_BSWAP=y
CONFIG_X86_POPAD_OK=y
# CONFIG_RWSEM_GENERIC_SPINLOCK is not set
CONFIG_RWSEM_XCHGADD_ALGORITHM=y
CONFIG_X86_L1_CACHE_SHIFT=5
CONFIG_X86_HAS_TSC=y
CONFIG_X86_GOOD_APIC=y
CONFIG_X86_PGE=y
CONFIG_X86_USE_PPRO_CHECKSUM=y
CONFIG_X86_F00F_WORKS_OK=y
CONFIG_X86_MCE=y
# CONFIG_TOSHIBA is not set
# CONFIG_I8K is not set
# CONFIG_MICROCODE is not set
# CONFIG_X86_MSR is not set
# CONFIG_X86_CPUID is not set
# CONFIG_EDD is not set
CONFIG_NOHIGHMEM=y
# CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G is not set
# CONFIG_HIGHMEM64G is not set
# CONFIG_HIGHMEM is not set
# CONFIG_MATH_EMULATION is not set
CONFIG_MTRR=y
# CONFIG_BIGPHYS_AREA is not set
# CONFIG_SMP is not set
# CONFIG_X86_UP_APIC is not set
# CONFIG_X86_UP_IOAPIC is not set
# CONFIG_X86_TSC_DISABLE is not set
CONFIG_X86_TSC=y

#
# General setup
#
CONFIG_NET=y
CONFIG_PCI=y
# CONFIG_PCI_GOBIOS is not set
# CONFIG_PCI_GODIRECT is not set
CONFIG_PCI_GOANY=y
CONFIG_PCI_BIOS=y
CONFIG_PCI_DIRECT=y
# CONFIG_ISA is not set
CONFIG_PCI_NAMES=y
# CONFIG_EISA is not set
# CONFIG_MCA is not set
# CONFIG_HOTPLUG is not set
# CONFIG_PCMCIA is not set
# CONFIG_HOTPLUG_PCI is not set
CONFIG_SYSVIPC=y
# CONFIG_BSD_PROCESS_ACCT is not set
CONFIG_SYSCTL=y
CONFIG_KCORE_ELF=y
# CONFIG_KCORE_AOUT is not set
CONFIG_BINFMT_AOUT=y
CONFIG_BINFMT_ELF=y
# CONFIG_BINFMT_MISC is not set
# CONFIG_OOM_KILLER is not set
CONFIG_PM=y
CONFIG_APM=y
# CONFIG_APM_IGNORE_USER_SUSPEND is not set
CONFIG_APM_DO_ENABLE=y
CONFIG_APM_CPU_IDLE=y
CONFIG_APM_DISPLAY_BLANK=y
CONFIG_APM_RTC_IS_GMT=y
# CONFIG_APM_ALLOW_INTS is not set
# CONFIG_APM_REAL_MODE_POWER_OFF is not set

#
# ACPI Support
#
CONFIG_ACPI=y
CONFIG_ACPI_BOOT=y
CONFIG_ACPI_BUS=y
CONFIG_ACPI_INTERPRETER=y
CONFIG_ACPI_EC=y
CONFIG_ACPI_POWER=y
CONFIG_ACPI_PCI=y
CONFIG_ACPI_MMCONFIG=y
CONFIG_ACPI_SLEEP=y
CONFIG_ACPI_SYSTEM=y
# CONFIG_ACPI_OFF is not set
# CONFIG_ACPI_AC is not set
# CONFIG_ACPI_BATTERY is not set
CONFIG_ACPI_BUTTON=y
# CONFIG_ACPI_FAN is not set
CONFIG_ACPI_PROCESSOR=y
CONFIG_ACPI_THERMAL=y
# CONFIG_ACPI_ASUS is not set
# CONFIG_ACPI_TOSHIBA is not set
# CONFIG_ACPI_DEBUG is not set
# CONFIG_OPTIMISE_SIZE is not set


#
# Plug and Play configuration
#
CONFIG_PNP=y
CONFIG_ISAPNP=y

#
# Network File Systems
#
# CONFIG_CODA_FS is not set
# CONFIG_INTERMEZZO_FS is not set
CONFIG_NFS_FS=y
CONFIG_NFS_V3=y
# CONFIG_NFS_DIRECTIO is not set
# CONFIG_ROOT_NFS is not set
# CONFIG_NFSD is not set
# CONFIG_NFSD_V3 is not set
# CONFIG_NFSD_TCP is not set
CONFIG_SUNRPC=y
CONFIG_LOCKD=y
CONFIG_LOCKD_V4=y
# CONFIG_SMB_FS is not set
# CONFIG_NCP_FS is not set
# CONFIG_NCPFS_PACKET_SIGNING is not set
# CONFIG_NCPFS_IOCTL_LOCKING is not set
# CONFIG_NCPFS_STRONG is not set
# CONFIG_NCPFS_NFS_NS is not set
# CONFIG_NCPFS_OS2_NS is not set
# CONFIG_NCPFS_SMALLDOS is not set
# CONFIG_NCPFS_NLS is not set
# CONFIG_NCPFS_EXTRAS is not set
# CONFIG_ZISOFS_FS is not set
CONFIG_FS_MBCACHE=y
# CONFIG_FS_POSIX_ACL is

TeX fax fonts

[Ross Boylan]

I would like to send a fax from a document generated by LaTeX.  My
understanding is that the standard computer modern fonts are not ideal
for faxing, so I've been trying to use something better.

I tried
\usepackage[fax]{lucidabr}
but this doesn't seem to be doing much.  The postscript output
indicates it does use different fonts.  However, judging from a
printed copy and xdvi, the main fonts appear to be the same.  They are
definitely serif, and I thought sans-serif was recommended for faxing.

The only visible differences are for the worse: bold face is not bold,
and the italic font is the same as the general one.

I tried
\usepackage[fax,calligraphic]{lucidabr}
which is supposed to convert italic to calligraphic, but the result is 
! No declaration for shape OT1/hlce/m/it

The lucidabr docs have some installation instructions; I have assumed
things are already set up.  Is that my error?

Or, to make this actually work, do I need some commercial fonts?

Anyway, if anyone has advice on how to make good faxes with TeX, or
answers to the particular puzzles above, I'd be very grateful to hear
it.

Thanks.


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Re: lockd: cannot unmonitor

[VSJ]

VSJ wrote:

> # CONFIG_APM_REAL_MODE_POWER_OFF is not set

I've set this to 'yes' and now the PC shuts down completely on 'halt', the
problem has been fixed!

Stanley


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Re: FAT32 as mount for /home?

[David P James]

On Fri 8 October 2004 07:22, Scotty Fitzgerald wrote:
> Can that FAT32 structure handle all of /homes files?

If you do this, make sure you don't try to use maildir format mail 
folders in your /home partition - this is particularly the case if you 
use KMail which now defaults to maildir in ~/Mail. FAT32 can't handle 
the ':' character used in the filenames of maildir messages.

The suggestion of someone else to make a symlink from your Windows 'My 
Documents' folder to an equivalent in your /home partition (such as the 
more sensible 'Documents') is a good one.

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modem "busy" in kernel 2.6

[Steve]

Hi,

I'm using a hard drive install of Knoppix 3.6. I can boot with kernel
2.4.27 and kppp dialer works fine (dials, connects). Whenever I boot
with kernel 2.6.7 and use the dialer, is always says modem is busy.
This is even after complete shutdowns.

Can anyone give me an idea of why this is? I want to use kernel 2.6... :-)

Thanks for any help!


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Re: Advice needed to speed up very slow machine (conclusion)

[Stephen Patterson]

On Sat, 09 Oct 2004 00:20:07 +0200, Don Jackson wrote:
> I'm sure I could make more speedup by going to different wm, but
> could not justify the time needed for my learning curve.  Just
> changing to S-C and Dillo seemed good enough for her, as unlike me,
> she has never been exposed to faster computers.

FWIW, switching from one of the big desktop environments (gnome/kde)
to fluxbox will really speed things up. I could get a from an X login
prompt (wdm) to a working desktop almost instantly on the old P166
laptop I used to run before it developed too many hardware problems.

> Revised computer has been back in her hands for some time now and performing 
> well with the exception mentioned about printing of a couple email files.  I 
> need to look into them and possibly report a bug.  Still get bugged with 
> phone calls as my written instructions to her were not perfect ... but 
> getting there!

It may be worth installing ssh and the rfb version of vnc so you log
in remotely for support.

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Re: modem "busy" in kernel 2.6

[Andreas Janssen]

Hello

Steve (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

> I'm using a hard drive install of Knoppix 3.6. I can boot with kernel
> 2.4.27 and kppp dialer works fine (dials, connects). Whenever I boot
> with kernel 2.6.7 and use the dialer, is always says modem is busy.
> This is even after complete shutdowns.

Don't know if this solves your problem, but if try to

sudo modprobe ppp_generic

when you use 2.6.

best regards
 Andreas Janssen

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Re: Switching between two network cards

[Andrei Badea]

Karl E. Jorgensen wrote:
On Thu, Oct 07, 2004 at 10:54:35PM +0200, Andrei Badea wrote:
...
I've got two network cards: one integrated on my motherboard 
(uses the sk98lin driver) and a PCI card (fealnx driver). Both drivers are 
compiled as modules and upon startup I'm loading only fealnx via 
/etc/modules (I'm not loading sk98lin at all). The network runs fine.

After my system starts, I want to switch to the other network card (the 
sk98lin one), but I only want its module loaded, so I do:

ifdown eth0
rmmod fealnx
modprobe sk98lin
ifup eth0
Why not load *both* modules all the time (i.e. put them both in
/etc/modules), and then simply use:
ifdown eth0
ifup eth1
and
ifdown eth1
ifup eth0
to switch?
The order in /etc/modules then dictates which one becomes eth0 and which
one becomes eth1.
This works fine, however, I wanted to have only one module in memory since 
I'm only needing one. More about this at the end of my reply.

It sounds like the two drivers are dissagreeing with being unloaded, but
there isn't much to go on.  Do you get anything in dmesg (~
/var/log/kern.log) when you load/unload the modules?  Is it different if
you boot with the "other" module loaded?
Whoops, dmesg shows this when unloading sk98lin:
Badness in remove_proc_entry at fs/proc/generic.c:692
 [] remove_proc_entry+0xfa/0x137
 [] skge_cleanup_module+0xcd/0x1db [sk98lin]
 [] sys_delete_module+0x143/0x17b
 [] do_munmap+0x142/0x17f
 [] syscall_call+0x7/0xb
This would mean that sk98lin doesn't like to be unloaded, so I can't boot 
with sk98lin, then unload it and load fealnx and expect it to work. 
However, I could at least expect the opposite order (boot with fealnx, 
unload it and load sk98lin) to work, but it doesn't either. Fealnx doesn't 
give any error messages, even when I load it with debug=1.

To conclude, loading both modules on startup and then switching their 
loading order causes both eth0 and eth1 to stop working.

Messages in dmesg say the network is up and running. But it isn't, it 
seems I can't ping nor make net connections. However, when I (for example) 
run a ping and look at the LEDs on the card, I see them bliking in the 
"ping" way. I can also see the echo request and reply packets in tcpdump. 
But ping doesn't get them and reports 100% loss.
!? If this is tcpdump on the same machine, then I'm thoroughly
confused..
Yep, this is tcpdump on the same machine. It behaves a litte strangely 
though. About 20 seconds after I run it, it doesn't show any packets, 
though I have a ping running in another terminal. It doesn't respond to 
Ctrl+C in these 20 secs.

If this is tcpdump on another box on the same network (more likely I
hope), then the firewalling rules should be eyeballed. 

and which maching is doing the pinging?
My machine.
If I unload sk98lin and reload fealnx, the net works fine. Now comes the 
interesting part: if I put sk98lin in /etc/modules instead of fealnx and 
restart, the net comes up. Only this time I can't switch to fealnx. This 
shows both the cards are working.
Have you ever had both working at the same time? 
I loaded both modules and switch from eth0 to eth1 and backwards using 
ifup/ifdown. This works.

I thought this was caused by iptables settings, so after loading the other 
module I rerun the script which setups my firewall rules. Didn't help.
Assuming that you use the same firewalling rules all the time, that
indicates that the firewalling rules are not the problem here.
But you can make your firewalling rules generic by specifying "eth+"
rather than "eth0" (i.e. it will match all interfaces starting with
"eth").
I don't specify the interface in any of my firewall rules.
To completely eliminate the possiblity of bad firewalling rules, you
could try clearing them
/etc/init.d/iptables clear
and try again. I'm not 100% sure that the firewalling rules can be
eliminated as the cause.
A related question: How do you reload the firewalling rules? Are they
being cleared down first? i.e. is there an "accumulative" effect going
on here?
I have a Bash script containing iptables calls. Its first commands are:
iptables -F
iptables -P INPUT DROP
iptables -P FORWARD DROP
iptables -P OUTPUT ACCEPT
Not that is it important, as my net is 
running with any of the cards if I restart, I'm just curious. However, I'd 
like to point out that I don't want both modules to be loaded. I want to 
be able to unload the running one and load another without having to 
restart.
But why insist on unloading the "other" module? Why isn't "ifdown"
sufficient?  

I assume that there is a reason (surely it cannot be because you don't
want an eth1, is it?), but it is not clear from your post.  

There may be different ways of solving your original problem
PS: Why put an extra network card in the box if you only want to use one
network at any given time?
This is not a problem actually. I had a PCI card in my machine and I 
recently bought a mainboard which contains an integrated NIC. Having the 
module for

Re: Switching between two network cards

[Andrei Badea]

Jason Rennie wrote:
On Thu, Oct 07, 2004 at 10:54:35PM +0200, Andrei Badea wrote:
After my system starts, I want to switch to the other network card (the 
sk98lin one), but I only want its module loaded, so I do:

ifdown eth0
rmmod fealnx
modprobe sk98lin
ifup eth0
I'm no expert in networking.  Might be totally off base here.  But,
could it be that fealnx gets eth0 and sk98lin gets eth1?  i.e. might
this work?
ifdown eth0
modprobe sk98lin
ifup eth1
This works. But I have to keep fealnx loaded, which is exactly what I 
don't want. If I unload fealnx before modprobing sk98lin, then sk98lin 
gets eth0 and it doesn't work.

Andrei
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Re: CUPS to USB printing no longer working

[Ross Boylan]

On Fri, Oct 08, 2004 at 09:24:38AM +0200, Andrea Vettorello wrote:
...

> 
> Sorry, i should have checked if the USB printer module name was
> changed (that name is valid for kernels 2.6.x). You probably don't
> need to change a working system, but IMHO maybe you should install a
> "proper" Woody kernel, your is a "boot floppy" variant. =)
> 
> Anyway, your printer was working and the error message made me think
> you only need to load the proper USB kernel module for the printer, so
> look if you can find "usbpr" (should be called like this on 2.4.x)
> module name and if not loaded try to manually load it and then restart
> CUPS...
> 
> 
> Andrea
> 
> 
I think the module is called "printer" (2.4.26 kernel).  If not, that
might explain why I haven't been able to getting printing to work via
USB.  But I don't seem to be getting as far as the original poster;
there's never any successful communication with the printer.


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Re: ntpd conf confusion

[Nate Duehr]

PaulNM wrote:
Hi all,
 I've recently installed the ntpd on my 24/7 machine so it could serve 
as a ntp server for my local network.  So far evrything is going fine, 
but I have run into one possible problem.  I set it to use pool.ntp.org, 
and according to my router logs, the first few outgoing addresses were 
indeed that.  Now it seems to be going to one ip address instead, and I 
can't see why.  I've rechecked the conf files and even restarted ntpd, 
but to no avail.

Thanks,
 PaulNM
With pool.ntp.org being a round-robin multiple A-record DNS entry, a lot 
of this depends on how your machnine resolves DNS on multiple requests 
for the same name.

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Re: sysvinit/gnome/display bug report

[Miquel van Smoorenburg]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Arjen Dragt  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I am trying to determine the best category under which
>to file a Debian bug report.
>The symptoms (completely repeatable) are that trying
>to change to runlevel S (via telinit or init) does not
>work, insteat causes my screen (console - Gnome
>session) to go really wierd.command line starts
>scrolling very fast (blank lines), any mouse clicks
>initiate multiple windows (of whatever was clicked
>on).  It looks a lot like a loop gone bad (endless
>loop).

Well, that's probably because the system is doing what you're
TELLING it to do, not what you WANT it to do :)

You don't use 'init s' to go to single user mode. You need
to go through runlevel 1 so things get shut down properly.
So 'init 1' or 'telinit 1' will do what you want.

If fact you should probably simply use the standard way to
go to single user mode, which is simply 'shutdown now'.

Mike.
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Re: how to log mozilla crash?

[scorpix]

Roberto Sanchez wrote:
scorpix wrote:
Hi,
I use Mozilla 1.7.3-5 on Sid.
My problem is that Mozilla crashed many times and i do not know the 
reason.
So how can i get a crash log for it so i can report a bug, like the 
backtrace in kde that appear when some kde apps crashed?


Something like this:
script -c "strace /usr/bin/mozilla-1.7.3" moz.log
It will save the output of the strace for you in
a file called moz.log.
-Roberto Sanchez
i do it and this what is get:
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ script -c "strace /usr/bin/mozilla-1.7.3" moz.log
Script started, file is moz.log
Script done, file is moz.log
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat moz.log
Script started on Sat 09 Oct 2004 09:30:28 PM AST
Script done on Sat 09 Oct 2004 09:30:28 PM AST
-=-=-
it seems that there's something wrong!
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Re: how to log mozilla crash?

[Sayantan Sur]

> i do it and this what is get:
> -=-=-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ script -c "strace /usr/bin/mozilla-1.7.3" moz.log
> Script started, file is moz.log
> Script done, file is moz.log
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat moz.log
> Script started on Sat 09 Oct 2004 09:30:28 PM AST
> 
> Script done on Sat 09 Oct 2004 09:30:28 PM AST
> -=-=-
> 
> it seems that there's something wrong!

Yes, there is something wrong. Probably your path to mozilla is wrong.


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advanced keyboard tweaking

[Jacobo221]

Hi everybody,

I've been playing around with xmodmap desperatly, in order to find a way
to have CTRL+ALT to act as ATLGR. All my effords have been unsuccessful.
It is much easier for me to press CTRL+ALT+2 to get the @ than to type
ALTGR+2, so that's the reason, in case you were wondering.

Ok, answers might be "check man xmodmap" "xmodmap is your friend, etc...".
Well, as i said, I've already tried, but no way. There's no way I could
find to have two keys to replace a single one.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance! :)


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Advanced keyboard tweaking

[Jacobo221]

Hi everybody,

I've been playing around with xmodmap to get CTRL+ALT to act as ALTGR,
without success.
In fact, what i found, is that there is no way to have two keys in
comination to act as another one which is a _mode_ key.

If anyone could help me, I'd greatly appreciate it! :)
Thanks in advance,
Jacobo

P.S.: In case you were just wondering: This is because i find it much
easier to use CTRL_L+ALT_L+2 than ALTGR+2 (in spanish keyboards, to get
the AT (@) symbol).


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Re: if debian is used by gnu, h/c lilo not grub?

[PaulNM]

Jule Slootbeek wrote:
The new debian-installer installed GRUB by default, i'm not sure what 
the reason is that LILO was used previously, but one can easily switch 
between them, if one chooses.

-JSS
Woody was released so long ago that I don't think anyone was using grub.
PaulNM
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Advanced keyboard tweaking

[Jacobo221]

Hi everybody,

I've been playing around with xmodmap to get CTRL+ALT to act as ALTGR,
without success.
In fact, what i found, is that there is no way to have two keys in
comination to act as another one which is a _mode_ key.

If anyone could help me, I'd greatly appreciate it! :)
Thanks in advance,
Jacobo

P.S.: In case you were just wondering: This is because i find it much
easier to use CTRL_L+ALT_L+2 than ALTGR+2 (in spanish keyboards, to get
the AT (@) symbol).


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How does a linux dhcp client know it's name?

[icebiker]

Hi,
I've got a sarge system connected to a DLink D604 router. I'm using  the 
router's dhcp server to assign IP addresses to the system. The network 
configuration is what the debian installer gave me.

Some applications seem to have trouble understanding the network 
configuration. For example, sudo says:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc$ sudo aptitude
 sudo: unable to lookup flipper via gethostbyname()
and hostname seems seriously confused:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc$ hostname
 flipper
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc$ hostname -i
 hostname: Unknown host
Also, the router doesn't seem to be able to get the system's name, 
though it can the names of my Windows systems.

Poking around, it seems that gethostbyname() looks at the host.conf and 
resolv.conf files, but those files seem to expect a fixed ip address. 
Also, none of the man pages that I could find (where is resolv+?) seem 
to know about /etc/hostname, which I thought was the way a Linux system 
named itself.

So, I'm missing something here. Is there a way to tell the resolver to 
look /etc/hostname? How does this stuff get tied together?

/icebiker
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Re: woody: boot fail after upgrade

[PaulNM]

Howard Chin wrote:
I think the first thing I will need is to mount the HD so that I can have
access to the HD. I can boot using a CD to a shell. There are a few important
files that I want to rescue. If I can do that, the worse case is to reinstall
the system which I can afford to do since I have only been building up my
server and have not put it to any real work yet.
I am newish to linux and am not quite sure how to mnt the HD. It will be much
appreciated if someone can let me know how.
Once you're in a shell just do "mount /dev/(partition) /mnt". Your 
harddrive partition should now be mounted on /mnt.

From there you could do "chroot /mnt". This will change your current 
root to /mnt, so now it's as if you had successfully booted your system. 
 From here you can run "lilo -vv" to reinstall lilo in the mbr, or 
"apt-get install grub" to install grub if you wish.

A note: The above will work fine if you only have one partition. If you 
have more than one, mount "/" first, then others.
ie: Say / is hda4, /usr is hda2, swap is hda1, and /usr/local is hda3
First "mount /dev/hda4 /mnt"
then "mount /dev/hda2 /mnt/usr"
then "mount /dev/hda3 /mnt/usr/local"

In other words, mount parent directories first. If you want to, you may 
activate the swap partition with "swapon /dev/(partition)" hda1 in above 
example.

PaulNM
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Re: How does a linux dhcp client know it's name?

[Alec Berryman]

begin  quotation of icebiker on 2004-10-09 18:24:56 -0400:

>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc$ hostname -i
>  hostname: Unknown host

This (along with its omission in your email) leads me to believe
you've overlooked /etc/hosts.  'man hosts' for more information.


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Re: if debian is used by gnu, h/c lilo not grub?

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> I was just curious if debian is used by the gnu hurd guys and
> everything then why doesnt debian come with grub in stead of lilo
> since grub is by gnu and lilo isnt? or is it?

Umm, grub is not only included, it's the default in versions sarge and
newer...

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libclass-methodmaker-perl takes much disk space

[Vincent Lefevre]

When I want to upgrade libclass-methodmaker-perl from 1.12-2 to
2.02-1 (latest version), I get:

[...]
The following packages will be upgraded:
  libclass-methodmaker-perl
1 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 256 not upgraded.
Need to get 0B/413kB of archives.
After unpacking 21.8MB of additional disk space will be used.
[...]

Is it normal that it takes so much disk space?

The archive file size shows that one could save space if (some of)
the files were compressed.

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passwd/su how to no password also two modules files?

[Steve]

Hey,
Im trying to do no password for my user 
account and root (please dont warn me about that ;0, It brings such freedom I 
love it.) I got it to work in /etc/passwd but just putting :: for passwd field 
and that works however when i do "su" it asks me for password and if i just 
press enter it doesnt think its correct anyonw know how i can get around that? 
(i havent hade time to mess with it yet so forgive me if its something 
obvious)
also,
im wondering how you manage different /etc/modules 
config files for loading different modules with different kernels? cause if you 
want to boot another kernel its gonna still use your other module config files 
so are you just supposed to replace the module configs files respective before 
you reboot or? thanks.
 
Steve.
 

Re: Advice needed to speed up very slow machine

[Stephen Patterson]

On Sun, 26 Sep 2004 04:50:08 +0200, Don Jackson wrote:
> I have installed sarge with kernel 2.4.26 on it -- no problem.  Actually, 
> everything works fine on it, with KDE and Kmail and Mozilla-Firefox as my 
> choices (since that's what I'm using myself).  The problem is that with only 
> a 166 MHz processor speed and the limited 96MB of RAM, the machine is 

I've just been inspired to try netscape 4[1] on my p233 laptop, and this
thing flies (especially compared to firefox). Some websites will
probably look a little interesting due to partial stylesheet support,
but hey, it was *the* main browser of the world for quite some time.

[1] you need a sources.list entry for contrib, not sure whether its
woody or sarge though.
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usb hard drive fails to mount after rsync errors

[Kamaraju Kusumanchi]

Hi all
  I have a 200 GB extenal hard drive with USB interface. I have the
following entries in /etc/fstab

/dev/sda/media/usb0 autorw,user,noauto  0   0

/dev/sda5   /usbdrive/ent1autorw,users,noauto  0   2
/dev/sda7   /usbdrive/ent2autorw,users,noauto  0   2
/dev/sda1   /usbdrive/linux_backupautorw,users,noauto  0   2
/dev/sda6   /usbdrive/softwareautorw,users,noauto  0   2
/dev/sda2   /usbdrive/windows_backup  autorw,users,noauto  0   2

where sda1 is ext3 formatted.

When I boot the computer, I can mount a partition by

mount /dev/sda1

I was sending a large file from another machine to this partition, the
rsync transfer failed with the following message

$rsync -e ssh -avzp rajuhomebackup_040403.tgz
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usbdrive/linx_backup/home_backups/
building file list ... done
rajuhomebackup_040403.tgz
rsync: writefd_unbuffered failed to write 16385 bytes: phase
"unknown": Broken pipe
rsync error: error in rsync protocol data stream (code 12) at io.c(515)

So, I went back my original machine and unmounted the /dev/sda1
partition. Now when I try to mount the partition again, I am getting
the following errors.

$mount /dev/sda1
mount: I could not determine the filesystem type, and none was specified

$sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda1 /usbdrive/linux_backup/
mount: /dev/sda1 is not a valid block device

But if I reboot the computer the usb drive can be mounted without any
problems. Now my questions are

1) Why is the rsync process giving errors?

2) Is the 200gb USB drive faulty? I can use it in windows and
everything works like a charm. But in linux I have this weird problem
of booting everytime I want to mount the partition

Using debian sid

$uname -a
Linux kusumanchi 2.6.8-1-386 #1 Mon Sep 13 23:29:55 EDT 2004 i686 GNU/Linux

cat /proc/bus/usb/devices
T:  Bus=05 Lev=00 Prnt=00 Port=00 Cnt=00 Dev#=  1 Spd=480 MxCh= 8
B:  Alloc=  0/800 us ( 0%), #Int=  0, #Iso=  0
D:  Ver= 2.00 Cls=09(hub  ) Sub=00 Prot=01 MxPS= 8 #Cfgs=  1
P:  Vendor= ProdID= Rev= 2.06
S:  Manufacturer=Linux 2.6.8-1-386 ehci_hcd
S:  Product=Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB2 EHCI Controller
S:  SerialNumber=:00:1d.7
C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=e0 MxPwr=  0mA
I:  If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 1 Cls=09(hub  ) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=hub
E:  Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS=   2 Ivl=256ms

T:  Bus=04 Lev=00 Prnt=00 Port=00 Cnt=00 Dev#=  1 Spd=12  MxCh= 2
B:  Alloc=  0/900 us ( 0%), #Int=  0, #Iso=  0
D:  Ver= 1.10 Cls=09(hub  ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS= 8 #Cfgs=  1
P:  Vendor= ProdID= Rev= 2.06
S:  Manufacturer=Linux 2.6.8-1-386 uhci_hcd
S:  Product=Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI #4
S:  SerialNumber=:00:1d.3
C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=c0 MxPwr=  0mA
I:  If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 1 Cls=09(hub  ) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=hub
E:  Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS=   2 Ivl=255ms

T:  Bus=03 Lev=00 Prnt=00 Port=00 Cnt=00 Dev#=  1 Spd=12  MxCh= 2
B:  Alloc= 93/900 us (10%), #Int=  1, #Iso=  0
D:  Ver= 1.10 Cls=09(hub  ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS= 8 #Cfgs=  1
P:  Vendor= ProdID= Rev= 2.06
S:  Manufacturer=Linux 2.6.8-1-386 uhci_hcd
S:  Product=Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI #3
S:  SerialNumber=:00:1d.2
C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=c0 MxPwr=  0mA
I:  If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 1 Cls=09(hub  ) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=hub
E:  Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS=   2 Ivl=255ms

T:  Bus=03 Lev=01 Prnt=01 Port=00 Cnt=01 Dev#=  3 Spd=1.5 MxCh= 0
D:  Ver= 1.10 Cls=00(>ifc ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS= 8 #Cfgs=  1
P:  Vendor=045e ProdID=0039 Rev= 3.00
S:  Manufacturer=Microsoft
S:  Product=Microsoft 5-Button Mouse with IntelliEye(TM)
C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=a0 MxPwr=100mA
I:  If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 1 Cls=03(HID  ) Sub=01 Prot=02 Driver=usbhid
E:  Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS=   4 Ivl=10ms

T:  Bus=02 Lev=00 Prnt=00 Port=00 Cnt=00 Dev#=  1 Spd=12  MxCh= 2
B:  Alloc=  0/900 us ( 0%), #Int=  0, #Iso=  0
D:  Ver= 1.10 Cls=09(hub  ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS= 8 #Cfgs=  1
P:  Vendor= ProdID= Rev= 2.06
S:  Manufacturer=Linux 2.6.8-1-386 uhci_hcd
S:  Product=Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI #2
S:  SerialNumber=:00:1d.1
C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=c0 MxPwr=  0mA
I:  If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 1 Cls=09(hub  ) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=hub
E:  Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS=   2 Ivl=255ms

T:  Bus=01 Lev=00 Prnt=00 Port=00 Cnt=00 Dev#=  1 Spd=12  MxCh= 2
B:  Alloc=  0/900 us ( 0%), #Int=  0, #Iso=  0
D:  Ver= 1.10 Cls=09(hub  ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS= 8 #Cfgs=  1
P:  Vendor= ProdID= Rev= 2.06
S:  Manufacturer=Linux 2.6.8-1-386 uhci_hcd
S:  Product=Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI #1
S:  SerialNumber=:00:1d.0
C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=c0 MxPwr=  0mA
I:  If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 1 Cls=09(hub  ) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=hub
E:  Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS=   2 Ivl=255ms




$lsmod
Module  Size  Used by
uinput  6144  0
usbvideo   27524  0
videodev9856  1 usbvideo
usbserial  27240  0
mtouchusb

Re: HOW to move one window from one desktop to another?

[Jon Dowland]

On Fri, 08 Oct 2004 21:51:07 +0800, gimmy tang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> I wish I could give you more specification but I am new in linux stuff and
> have no idea about what's your question is:(,  But I found some information
> in the control center perhaps useful:
> KDE version:2.2.2
> The style is default.
> The number os desktope is 4.
> best,
> gimmy

Hi - there you go then - your desktop environment is KDE, your window
manager is the KDE window manager, and a poster in this thread said
something along the lines of click on the top-right icon for a window
and it has a drop-down menu that lets you move it. Also try dragging
the representation on the pager, if you have a pager.

Just a few other notes: please make sure that replies go to the list
debian-user, rather than just to me, privately, in order to keep the
discussion public. Secondly, please avoid top-posting as this makes
threads hard to read: http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/usenet/brox.html
for info.

Cheers and enjoy yourself with debian!

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Re: HOW to change the theme of the window?

[Jon Dowland]

On Fri, 08 Oct 2004 21:50:32 +0800, gimmy tang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> I wish I could give you more specification but I am new in linux stuff and
> have no idea about what's your question is:(,  But I found some information
> in the control center perhaps useful:
> KDE version:2.2.2
> The style is default.
> The number os desktope is 4.
> best,
> gimmy

Ah, there you go. Use the KDE Control Center to choose a different style. 

Please refer to my reply to your other question to learn about
top-posting and replying to the list publically.

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Re: if debian is used by gnu, h/c lilo not grub?

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> > since grub is by gnu and lilo isnt? or is it?
> 
> Umm, grub is not only included, it's the default in versions sarge and
> newer...
> 

And debian includes gnu software, it is not gnu itself. That means that
debian is free to chose the best tool for the job at the moment, and if
grub even existed at that point it wasn't it back when woody came out
(its installation still seems to be so badly documented that I still
don't know how to install grub if its not installed automatically at
sarge install, where lilo was a idiotic).

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Kernel upgrade - funny startup messages

[Robert S]

I've just upgraded my kernel from bf-2.4 to 2.4.18-1-686.  I'm getting a few 
funny messages on bootup:

/etc/mtab: no such file or directory
modporbe: cannot locate module *
/etc/modules.conf is newer than /lib/modules/modules.dep

The relevant part of my /etc/lilo.conf:

image = /vmlinuz
label = Debian
root = /dev/sda1
initrd = /initrd.img
append="hdc=ide-scsi acpi=off apm=power-off"
read-only

Can anyone explain?  I assume these are "benign".





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Re: Macromedia flash plugin issues?

[Chad Davis]

It now appears to be a kernel issue.  I am running 2.6.8-1.  Flash
works fine in the previous stock 2.4 kernel that debian was installed
with. Anyone have any clue on what this could be?




On Thu, 7 Oct 2004 09:10:16 -0500, Chad Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Greetings,
> 
> I am still having this issue, and thought I would repost to see if
> anyone else has come across this or knows what I can do.
> 
> It also appears to not be firefox as the plugin does not work in other
> browsers either.
> 
> I do now get sound though.  The weird part is I have a new sid install
> on a new machine and same issue. I did however copy my ~ from the old
> install.  However, I also deleted .mozilla* and all references of
> flash.  I have installed flash directly from firefox 1.0preview and
> from the apt package.  So in other words, I can not see the animation.
> 
> -cd.
> 
> On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 00:03:40 -0500, Chad Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I am having an issue with firefox and flash player.  When I go to
> > sites with flash the spot where the flash movie is white and it does
> > not appear. I can right click on it to get the flash menu and it says
> > play,etc.  I can not confirm if sound does not work either as I have
> > no sound card on this machine.  Anyone experienced this?
> >
> > --
> > cd.
> >
> 
> 
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Re: How does a linux dhcp client know it's name?

[icebiker]

Alec Berryman wrote:
begin  quotation of icebiker on 2004-10-09 18:24:56 -0400:
 

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc$ hostname -i
hostname: Unknown host
   

This (along with its omission in your email) leads me to believe
you've overlooked /etc/hosts.  'man hosts' for more information.
 

Sorry, I had looked at /etc/hosts. /etc/hosts appears to only specify 
_static_ IP addresses, at least that's what I get from the man page.

So is there some magic syntax for specifying a variable IP address in 
/etc/hosts, or is there another mechanism.

And why bother with /etc/hostname if /etc/hosts is required?
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Re: FAT32 as mount for /home?

[Beans]

Olav wrote:
Why not like this:
- mount your Windows partition to some mount point like /mnt/windows
- create a symlink named "My Documents" in your home to point to the
 folder with the same name on the Windows partition
It keeps the dot file clutter away from Windows, it wouldn't know what
to do with them! Still your stuff would be easily available from Linux.
Of course, "My Documents" could be a separate partition from the Windows
system partition too.
 

I guess this way will work.
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Avoiding pattern expansion in bash?

[Olle Eriksson]

This might be a little off topic but here it goes anyway.

I am writing a bash script that takes as input a file expression such as 
"/etc/lilo.conf" or "/boot/config*" etc. I want to keep those strings as 
they are (including the *) and echo them to a file. How do I prevent bash 
from doing its pattern expansion where it turns /boot/config* into a list 
of files that match the expression. 

If I use echo "$1" it becomes the first file that matches the 
expression /boot/config*. If I use echo "$*" it becomes a space separated 
list of all the files that match the expression. I want none of this.

Any ideas?

Regards
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Re: HOW to move one window from one desktop to another?

[Kent West]

Jon Dowland wrote:
... a poster in this thread said
something along the lines of click on the top-right icon for a window
and it has a drop-down menu that lets you move it.
 

top-left
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Re: HOW to move one window from one desktop to another?

[Travis Crump]

Kent West wrote:
Jon Dowland wrote:
... a poster in this thread said
something along the lines of click on the top-right icon for a window
and it has a drop-down menu that lets you move it.
 

top-left
is this a joke?  the exact location is going to be pretty arbitrary 
depending on WM/theme...


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Re: Avoiding pattern expansion in bash?

[Travis Crump]

Olle Eriksson wrote:
This might be a little off topic but here it goes anyway.
I am writing a bash script that takes as input a file expression such as 
"/etc/lilo.conf" or "/boot/config*" etc. I want to keep those strings as 
they are (including the *) and echo them to a file. How do I prevent bash 
from doing its pattern expansion where it turns /boot/config* into a list 
of files that match the expression. 

If I use echo "$1" it becomes the first file that matches the 
expression /boot/config*. If I use echo "$*" it becomes a space separated 
list of all the files that match the expression. I want none of this.

Any ideas?
Regards
Olle Eriksson

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp$ cat test.sh
#!/bin/sh
echo "$1"
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp$ ./test.sh '/boot/config*'
/boot/config*
Not sure I understand what exactly is the problem you are having...


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Re: Avoiding pattern expansion in bash?

[Paul E Condon]

On Sun, Oct 10, 2004 at 05:11:21AM +0200, Olle Eriksson wrote:
> This might be a little off topic but here it goes anyway.
> 
> I am writing a bash script that takes as input a file expression such as 
> "/etc/lilo.conf" or "/boot/config*" etc. I want to keep those strings as 

Instead of "/etc/lilo.conf*" try "/etc/lilo.conf\*"


> they are (including the *) and echo them to a file. How do I prevent bash 
> from doing its pattern expansion where it turns /boot/config* into a list 
> of files that match the expression. 
> 
> If I use echo "$1" it becomes the first file that matches the 
> expression /boot/config*. If I use echo "$*" it becomes a space separated 
> list of all the files that match the expression. I want none of this.
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> Regards
> Olle Eriksson
> 
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Re: HOW to move one window from one desktop to another?

[Travis Crump]

Travis Crump wrote:
Kent West wrote:
Jon Dowland wrote:
... a poster in this thread said
something along the lines of click on the top-right icon for a window
and it has a drop-down menu that lets you move it.
 

top-left
is this a joke?  the exact location is going to be pretty arbitrary 
depending on WM/theme...
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Large file problem?

[Paul E Condon]

I want to back up a large file to DVD. I have been backing up 
'normal' files to DVD successfully for some time, but this
one is 2725942329 bytes, and someting is keeping growisofs
from writing any more than 807 bytes. I've tried twice
and gotten this same length result both times. I can make 
another copy of the file on HD with cp and the copy has
the same length, so I suppose there is no corruption of
the file. But I should note that I cannot to a diff of the
copy against the original because gives an error message
"diff: memory exhausted"
and quits almost immediately, i.e. well before it could
have read even a few % of the files.

growisofs does not issue any error messages. It just
issues it normal progress report and expected end time
messages, writing trailer message.

Is there a file size limit in the dvd?, the kernel?, where? 

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Re: Large file problem?

[Stefan O'Rear]

On Sat, Oct 09, 2004 at 09:50:44PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote:
> I want to back up a large file to DVD. I have been backing up 'normal'
> files to DVD successfully for some time, but this one is 2725942329
> bytes, and someting is keeping growisofs from writing any more than
> 807 bytes. I've tried twice and gotten this same length result
> both times. I can make another copy of the file on HD with cp and the
> copy has the same length, so I suppose there is no corruption of the
> file. But I should note that I cannot to a diff of the copy against
> the original because gives an error message "diff: memory exhausted"
> and quits almost immediately, i.e. well before it could have read even
> a few % of the files.
> 
> growisofs does not issue any error messages. It just issues it normal
> progress report and expected end time messages, writing trailer
> message.
> 
> Is there a file size limit in the dvd?, the kernel?, where? 

Old kernels (2.2.20 IIRC is affected, 2.6.0 isn't, exact cutoff is
unknown) limit files to 2GB.

If you want to know if hugefile1 and hugefile2 are identical, just do:

cmp hugefile1 hugefile2

It is much faster and requires very little memory, but tells you IF
there are differences, not WHAT they are.

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Re: Avoiding pattern expansion in bash?

[Olle Eriksson]

On Sunday 10 October 2004 05.24, Travis Crump wrote:
> Olle Eriksson wrote:
> > This might be a little off topic but here it goes anyway.
> >
> > I am writing a bash script that takes as input a file expression such
> > as "/etc/lilo.conf" or "/boot/config*" etc. I want to keep those
> > strings as they are (including the *) and echo them to a file. How do
> > I prevent bash from doing its pattern expansion where it turns
> > /boot/config* into a list of files that match the expression.
> >
> > If I use echo "$1" it becomes the first file that matches the
> > expression /boot/config*. If I use echo "$*" it becomes a space
> > separated list of all the files that match the expression. I want
> > none of this.
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> > Regards
> > Olle Eriksson
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp$ cat test.sh
> #!/bin/sh
>
> echo "$1"
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp$ ./test.sh '/boot/config*'
> /boot/config*
>
> Not sure I understand what exactly is the problem you are having...

Ah.. I was missing the '' around the expression when calling the script. I 
was experimenting with all sorts of things inside the script file and 
forgot about that. Ok now I can get this to work. Thanks.

Just out of curiousity, is it possible to prevent the parameter from being 
expanded without those '' on the command line?

Regards
Olle Eriksson


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Re: How does a linux dhcp client know it's name?

[Rob Ellis]

icebiker wrote:
 Hi,
 I've got a sarge system connected to a DLink D604 router. I'm using
 the router's dhcp server to assign IP addresses to the system. The
 network configuration is what the debian installer gave me.
 Some applications seem to have trouble understanding the network
 configuration. For example, sudo says:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc$ sudo aptitude sudo: unable to lookup flipper via
 gethostbyname()
 and hostname seems seriously confused:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc$ hostname flipper [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc$ hostname -i
 hostname: Unknown host
 Also, the router doesn't seem to be able to get the system's name,
 though it can the names of my Windows systems.
 Poking around, it seems that gethostbyname() looks at the host.conf
 and resolv.conf files, but those files seem to expect a fixed ip
 address. Also, none of the man pages that I could find (where is
 resolv+?) seem to know about /etc/hostname, which I thought was the
 way a Linux system named itself.
 So, I'm missing something here. Is there a way to tell the resolver
 to look /etc/hostname? How does this stuff get tied together?
 /icebiker

What is in /etc/hostname ?   Usually setting this will help out a lot
of services if they are confused about the name.  E.G. I had to set
mine to www.ellisbros.com to keep apache2 happy (not generating
warnings in the log) about the name of the machine, even though I had
previously had elllisbros.com in my /etc/hostname.  I vaguely remember
that a long time ago another service wanted to see a correct name in
/etc/hostname (something that jives with DNS records) before it would
start.  Exim perhaps?  I have no experience with aptitude.
-Rob
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