Needs help with Kernel upgrade

2004-09-25 Thread Bruce DeGrasse
Need Kernel advice and help.

I currently have idepci kernel installed on a Pentium II 350 mh, 6 GB (hda) 
and 1 GB (hdb), 320 MB mem system.  This is from my initial install.  Since 
then I have moved to Unstable and upgrade periodically.  I would like to 
upgrade the kernel and  selected kernel-image-2.6.8-1-386 for my upgrade as 
this seemed a good match.  This kernel has been installed and initrd has been 
entered into lilo.conf.   When I reboot the system the sequence gets to the 
following spot.

Checking all file systems
fsck 1.35 (28-Feb-2004)
fsck.ext2: No such device or address while trying to open /dev/hda6
Possibly non-existent or swap device?
/dev/hdb1: clean, 2189/208896 files, 242785/833584 blocks (check in 4 mounts)
fsck failed.  Please repair manually.
Control-D will exit from this shell  and so one

From the DF command it looks like the following partitions are not getting 
mounted.
/dev/hda6 /home
/dev/hdb1 /home/data

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Bruce




Re: BRAZIL

2004-09-25 Thread Brian Nelson
On Sat, Sep 25, 2004 at 10:19:20AM -0300, JAIME GIMENEZ JR wrote:
>  
>  
>  
> I?m brazilian and I need your help to understand a
> english word:
> What means this word."nasally-insertable"

You can stick it in your nose.


> It?s usual find this words...
>  
> "But what we need to know is, do people want
> nasally-insertable computers"

Sounds like a good idea, as long as you can avoid sneezing...

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Re: Needs help with Kernel upgrade

2004-09-25 Thread Stefan O'Rear
On Sat, Sep 25, 2004 at 11:19:43AM -0500, Bruce DeGrasse wrote:
> Need Kernel advice and help.
> 
> I currently have idepci kernel installed on a Pentium II 350 mh, 6 GB (hda) 
> and 1 GB (hdb), 320 MB mem system.  This is from my initial install.  Since 
> then I have moved to Unstable and upgrade periodically.  I would like to 
> upgrade the kernel and  selected kernel-image-2.6.8-1-386 for my upgrade as 
> this seemed a good match.  This kernel has been installed and initrd has been 
> entered into lilo.conf.   When I reboot the system the sequence gets to the 
> following spot.
> 
> Checking all file systems
> fsck 1.35 (28-Feb-2004)
> fsck.ext2: No such device or address while trying to open /dev/hda6
> Possibly non-existent or swap device?
> /dev/hdb1: clean, 2189/208896 files, 242785/833584 blocks (check in 4 mounts)
> fsck failed.  Please repair manually.
> Control-D will exit from this shell  and so one
> 
> From the DF command it looks like the following partitions are not getting 
> mounted.
> /dev/hda6 /home
> /dev/hdb1 /home/data

Sounds like 2.6.8 isn't recognizing your /dev/hda6.

Is it listed in the Partition check: message?

Send your dmesg, perhaps there is a kernel error message.

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Re: DMA issue

2004-09-25 Thread Josh Lauricha
Well, taking Justin's advice, I've pulled the disk put it into another 
computer and tried to use the smarttools on it. smartctl -a /dev/hdc 
shows it's SMART capable, however smart -s on fails. I'd take it this 
is a good sign the drives dead?

But I just noticed that, when mounted ro it works okay.
On Sep 23, 2004, at 9:13 AM, Justin Guerin wrote:
On Wednesday 22 September 2004 14:50, Josh Lauricha wrote:
I have the following:
 ABIT KD7A
 Athlon XP 2800+
 Western Digital 180GB (WD1800BB)
 Generic 16x DVD-ROM
And am getting:
  hda: dma_timer_expiry: dma status == 0x21
  hda: DMA interrupt recovery
  hda: DMA timeout error
  hda: DMA timeout error: status=0xd0 { Busy }
  hda: DMA disabled
  ide0: reset: success
  hda: lost interrupt
  hda: task_out_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete 
DataRequest
Error }
  hda: task_out_intr: error=0x00 { }

hda: DMA disabled
hda: drive not ready for command
ide0 reset: success
Regularly. The drive will reset (with an audible click), then do a
little more and timeout again. I'm trying to install Sarge running
2.6.8, but the same problem happens with 2.4.26. I've tried booting
with noacpi, nodma, ide=nodma and noapic with no success. I've tried
different combos of connecting the drives, both on primary, dvd on
secondary, etc. I've disabled DMA in the BIOS, but it still seems to
try to use it. I've reset the BIOS. Is there anything else I can try?
Anyone else running one of these boards? Based on the dmesg output, it
doesn't seem like the noapic arg does anything on this board.
Please CC, I'm not subscribed.

Are you sure the drive is good?  I had problems like this, and 
smartmontools
showed the drive was failing.  I replaced it, and haven't had any 
problems
since.

Justin Guerin

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bug I submitted now showing

2004-09-25 Thread Rob Benton
Hey I used reportbug from a new sarge install a few days ago.  I did not 
have exim4 configured.  The bug report made it to my inbox (this e-mail 
address) but I don't see the report I filed online.  It should be here:

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=226443
But I've tried searching on my e-mail address and that doesn't find my 
report either.  Do I need to submit this another way?

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Re: bug I submitted noT showing

2004-09-25 Thread Rob Benton
Rob Benton wrote:
Hey I used reportbug from a new sarge install a few days ago.  I did not 
have exim4 configured.  The bug report made it to my inbox (this e-mail 
address) but I don't see the report I filed online.  It should be here:

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=226443
But I've tried searching on my e-mail address and that doesn't find my 
report either.  Do I need to submit this another way?


Sorry i mistyped the subject
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netgear WG311V2 wireless card, any hope?

2004-09-25 Thread Thomas Stivers
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Hi all, I am trying to get a this card working, but I cannot tell for
certain what drivers to use. I see many references, but many seem to be
about another revision of the card. When I go to http://madwifi.sf.net I
get a "index of /" page with nothing on it. Tips on what I need to get
this working would be appreciated.

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promise tx-2000 / 3ware7006-2

2004-09-25 Thread Christian Bonato - S.I.A.
Title: promise tx-2000 / 3ware7006-2







hi,  i want buy new controller raid promise tx2000 or 3ware 7006-2
The new debian installer support this controller raid?


I must install debian linux for firewall server with 2 disk in
mirrorig mode.

Is it possible with debian installer rc1?

thanks
Christian





Re: Run Application?

2004-09-25 Thread robin
Father Parthenios wrote:
Running Unstable, and am stuck with something:
In gnome2-user-guide, section 4.6.4, the Run Button is described.
What is the command I could run from the command line to run the Run
Application Dialog?  I am having trouble finding the name of this program.
TIA
 

have a look for a file called /etc/X11/?gnome?/menu.xml
I run xfce4 and the file /etc/X11/xfce4/menu,xml indicates the run 
command as xfrun4. whether this applies to gnome ?

Robin
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any examples where Debian was installed in Dell Inspiron 5160?

2004-09-25 Thread H. S.
A friend, whom I have introduced to Linux(Debian Sarge) and now loves 
it, asked me if Linux (Fedora Core 2 or Debian) will run nicely on 
Inspiron 5160. If I yes, the notebook will bought. But I can't say yes 
till I am sure. I am looking for someone who has tried this. The 
notebook in question seems to be fairly new model and has no mention in 
http://www.linux-laptop.net/. However, the 5150 is mentioned there.

So if anyone here has tried it, could you share your experince?
The specs, for others who may be able to give advice, are:
Processor:Mobile Pentium 4 (2.8GHz with 533 MHz FSB)
screen:   15 in. SXGA display
RAM:  512MB 333MHz 2 DIMMs
Video card:   Nvidia 64MB GeForce FX, Go5200 AGP 4x
Hard drive:   60GB ultra ATA
NIC:  INTNIC
Modem:INTMDM
DVD/CD:   8x DVDRW
W/L NIC:  TM13501 802.11b/g 54Mbps Mini PCI card
Thanks,
->HS
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Re: any examples where Debian was installed in Dell Inspiron 5160?

2004-09-25 Thread Andrea Vettorello
On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 11:55:00 -0400, H. S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> A friend, whom I have introduced to Linux(Debian Sarge) and now loves
> it, asked me if Linux (Fedora Core 2 or Debian) will run nicely on
> Inspiron 5160. If I yes, the notebook will bought. But I can't say yes
> till I am sure. I am looking for someone who has tried this. The
> notebook in question seems to be fairly new model and has no mention in
> http://www.linux-laptop.net/. However, the 5150 is mentioned there.
> 
> So if anyone here has tried it, could you share your experince?
> 
> The specs, for others who may be able to give advice, are:
> Processor:Mobile Pentium 4 (2.8GHz with 533 MHz FSB)
> screen:   15 in. SXGA display
> RAM:  512MB 333MHz 2 DIMMs
> Video card:   Nvidia 64MB GeForce FX, Go5200 AGP 4x
> Hard drive:   60GB ultra ATA
> NIC:  INTNIC
> Modem:INTMDM
> DVD/CD:   8x DVDRW
> W/L NIC:  TM13501 802.11b/g 54Mbps Mini PCI card
> 

A friend of mine have one ot those, but i should ask him the exact
model. Sid works ok on it, i don't think he has tried to configure the
modem, but he don't use it anyway, and the touch pad isn't working
correctly at the moment in X, but he said he has b0rked something on
his XF86Config...


Andrea


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Re: bug I submitted noT showing

2004-09-25 Thread Martin Dickopp
Rob Benton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hey I used reportbug from a new sarge install a few days ago.  I did
> not have exim4 configured.  The bug report made it to my inbox (this
> e-mail address) but I don't see the report I filed online.  It should
> be here:
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=226443

Under bug number #226443, I see a bug reported in January 2004.  Why do
you presume that your bug should have number #226443?

Martin


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Problems with kernel upgrade

2004-09-25 Thread Asim Jamshed
Hello, 

I just installed Debian Linux on my PC. This is my first experience 
with Linux. Understandably, I faced a lot of problems . I had 
downloaded the ISO images of debian v3 release 2 which comes on 7
CDs(Woody). On installation, by default, the kernel installed was
version 2.2. I
tried to upgrade it to v2.4 using dselect. The system asked me to 
insert CD 3 of the Debian distribution. On inserting the right CD, it 
again prompted the same inquiry. The CD 3 reads fine as I've already 
tested it out. Apparently, the sources.list file has all the labels of
the CDs. Can you kindly tell what might the problem be?

Regards


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Re: Problems with kernel upgrade

2004-09-25 Thread Stefan O'Rear
On Sat, Sep 25, 2004 at 11:46:08PM +0500, Asim Jamshed wrote:
> Hello, 
> 
> I just installed Debian Linux on my PC. This is my first experience 
> with Linux. Understandably, I faced a lot of problems . I had 
> downloaded the ISO images of debian v3 release 2 which comes on 7
> CDs(Woody). On installation, by default, the kernel installed was
> version 2.2. I
> tried to upgrade it to v2.4 using dselect. The system asked me to 
> insert CD 3 of the Debian distribution. On inserting the right CD, it 
> again prompted the same inquiry. The CD 3 reads fine as I've already 
> tested it out. Apparently, the sources.list file has all the labels of
> the CDs. Can you kindly tell what might the problem be?

1. IIRC you can have the installer install a 2.4 by typing linux24 instead
of linux at the boot: prompt.

2. If you have DSL or cable, I very highly recommend you change your
   /etc/apt/sources.list to refer to ftp.us.debian.org rather than your
   CDROM drive. It's probably faster, you get security updates, and you
   can't lose the CDs.

3. Debian v3 release 2 is extremely obsolete.  Download the 10MB Sarge
   netinst image, burn it to CD, and install Sarge.

   If you have high speed internet, do NOT download the full (700MB)
   images or the DVD (4GB / 8GB) images.  The netinst image will
   download only the packages you need.

   Note: Debian 'sarge' is not officially released yet.  When a debian
 version is released, it is no longer changed, and it gets the
 name 'stable'. You can upgrate to 'sid' after the install, you
 will get all the latest packages, you can upgrade them easily,
 and they may occasionally break.

Here is my net-based sources.list:

deb ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stable main  
deb-src ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stable main  
deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main
deb-src http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main

deb ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/ stable main  

deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main

You can also change this with /sbin/base-config IIRC.

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Re: Does Unstable become Testing?

2004-09-25 Thread Jamin W. Collins
On Sat, Sep 25, 2004 at 08:55:41AM -0500, John Fleming wrote:
> 
> So will there be some warning preceding the release such that those of
> us sitting on the fence will have a last minute chance to decide
> whether we want our sources.list to point to "sarge" or to "testing"?
> - John

That can be decided now.  If you want to follow "sarge" from it's
current position of "testing" to "stable" just use "sarge" in your
sources.list.  If you want to continue using "testing" even after
"sarge" becomes our "stable" release, use "testing" in your
sources.list.

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Re: netgear WG311V2 wireless card, any hope?

2004-09-25 Thread Andrea Vettorello
On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 12:25:11 -0500, Thomas Stivers
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Hi all, I am trying to get a this card working, but I cannot tell for
> certain what drivers to use. I see many references, but many seem to be
> about another revision of the card. When I go to http://madwifi.sf.net I
> get a "index of /" page with nothing on it. Tips on what I need to get
> this working would be appreciated.
> 

You should try http://sourceforge.net/projects/madwifi/


Andrea


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Re: partition second hard drive

2004-09-25 Thread Douglas G. Pollard Sr.
On Saturday 25 September 2004 12:10 pm, Stefan O'Rear wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 25, 2004 at 12:01:01PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Hello all,
> > I had a dual boot system with Windows and Linux
> > installed. Bought a new cd writer and found out I had to
> > upgrade win 98 to SE to use new software for writer. SE
> > costs more than the writer did. Nuts to microsoft.
> > Took Windows out and installed Debian Sarge with
> > the new installer. I really am happy with it.
> > My question is How do I reformat my second hard
> > drive that is presently Fat 32 windows so that Linux can
> > use it for backup. I tried cfdisk but linux cannot see the
> > drive. I have a Maxtor cd for the drive, which is Maxtor,
> > but there is no Linux formating available on it. I sent
> > them an e-mail asking why not.
> > Thanks in advance for any help.
> > Doug
>
> Linux can use fat32.  If cfdisk cannot see the disk, it is because Linux
> can't.  Do you have the right modules loaded for your second disk?
>
> Open a terminal and type /sbin/lsmod to see what modules are loaded.
>
> What kind of disk is it?
>
> What does the 'dmesg' command say?  Please include all output.
>
> Excerpts from mine:
> > SIS5513: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 01
> > SIS5513: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
> > ide0: BM-DMA at 0xffa0-0xffa7, BIOS settings: hda:pio, hdb:pio
> > ide1: BM-DMA at 0xffa8-0xffaf, BIOS settings: hdc:pio, hdd:pio
> >
> > hda: IBM-DJNA-371350, ATA DISK drive
> > hdb: WDC AC14300R, ATA DISK drive
> > hdc: Hewlett-Packard CD-Writer Plus 8100, ATAPI CDROM drive
> >
> > ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
> > ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
> > hda: IBM-DJNA-371350, 12949MB w/1966kB Cache, CHS=1650/255/63
> > hdb: WDC AC14300R, 4112MB w/512kB Cache, CHS=524/255/63
> > hdc: ATAPI 24X CD-ROM CD-R/RW drive, 1024kB Cache
> >
> > Partition check:
> >  hda: hda1 hda2 hda3 < hda5 hda6 hda7 hda8 >
> >  hdb: hdb1 hdb2
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This is the output from/sbin/lsmod. Sorry it took so long to get back. had a 
configuration problem with kmail.

Module  Size  Used byNot tainted
input   3040   0 (autoclean)
apm 8492   1 (autoclean)
appletalk  18852  12 (autoclean)
parport_pc 19400   1 (autoclean)
lp  5952   0
parport21736   1 [parport_pc lp]
af_packet  11560   1 (autoclean)
emu10k1-gp  1256   0 (unused)
gameport1388   0 [emu10k1-gp]
usb-uhci   19632   0 (unused)
usbcore52908   1 [usb-uhci]
emu10k150956   2
ac97_codec 11412   0 [emu10k1]
sound  50280   0 [emu10k1]
soundcore   3268   7 [emu10k1 sound]
ide-scsi8464   0
scsi_mod   85412   1 [ide-scsi]
natsemi14112   1
crc32   2848   0 [natsemi]
agpgart39396   0 (unused)
ide-cd 27968   1
cdrom  25056   0 [ide-cd]
rtc 6280   0 (autoclean)
ext3   66600   1 (autoclean)
jbd35076   1 (autoclean) [ext3]
ide-detect   288   0 (autoclean) (unused)
via82cxxx   9416   1 (autoclean)
ide-disk   12544   2 (autoclean)
ide-core   93980   3 (autoclean) [ide-scsi ide-cd ide-detect 
via82cxxx ide-disk]
unix   13260 136 (autoclean)

Below is the out in part fromdmesg. I figured this was all you needed if you 
need it all I will send.
Doug


Freeing unused kernel memory: 92k freed
NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0/SMP for Linux NET4.0.
Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 7.00beta4-2.4
ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx
ide: late registration of driver.
VP_IDE: IDE controller at PCI slot 00:07.1
VP_IDE: chipset revision 6
VP_IDE: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx
VP_IDE: VIA vt82c596a (rev 05) IDE UDMA33 controller on pci00:07.1
ide0: BM-DMA at 0xffa0-0xffa7, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:DMA
ide1: BM-DMA at 0xffa8-0xffaf, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:pio
hda: Maxtor 6E040L0, ATA DISK drive
hdb: Maxtor 88400D8, ATA DISK drive
blk: queue ca8263e0, I/O limit 4095Mb (mask 0x)
blk: queue ca82651c, I/O limit 4095Mb (mask 0x)
hdc: LITE-ON CD-RW SOHR-5238S, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
hdd: SAMSUNG SCR-2432, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
hda: attached ide-disk driver.
hda: 80293248 sectors (41110 MB) w/2048KiB Cache, CHS=79656/16/63, UDMA(33)
hdb: attached ide-disk driver.
hdb: 16408224 sectors (8401 

Re: Needs help with Kernel upgrade

2004-09-25 Thread Bruce DeGrasse
On Saturday 25 September 2004 11:26 am, Stefan O'Rear wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 25, 2004 at 11:19:43AM -0500, Bruce DeGrasse wrote:
> > Need Kernel advice and help.
> >
> > I currently have idepci kernel installed on a Pentium II 350 mh, 6 GB
> > (hda) and 1 GB (hdb), 320 MB mem system.  This is from my initial
> > install.  Since then I have moved to Unstable and upgrade periodically. 
> > I would like to upgrade the kernel and  selected kernel-image-2.6.8-1-386
> > for my upgrade as this seemed a good match.  This kernel has been
> > installed and initrd has been entered into lilo.conf.   When I reboot the
> > system the sequence gets to the following spot.
> >
> > Checking all file systems
> > fsck 1.35 (28-Feb-2004)
> > fsck.ext2: No such device or address while trying to open /dev/hda6
> > Possibly non-existent or swap device?
> > /dev/hdb1: clean, 2189/208896 files, 242785/833584 blocks (check in 4
> > mounts) fsck failed.  Please repair manually.
> > Control-D will exit from this shell  and so one
> >
> > From the DF command it looks like the following partitions are not
> > getting mounted.
> > /dev/hda6 /home
> > /dev/hdb1 /home/data
>
> Sounds like 2.6.8 isn't recognizing your /dev/hda6.
>
> Is it listed in the Partition check: message?
>
> Send your dmesg, perhaps there is a kernel error message.
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Thanks for the response, as you probably noted I have a shallow familarization 
with debian.  A copy of dmesg is attached, does this tell us anything.

Bruce


Linux version 2.6.8-1-386 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 3.3.4 (Debian 1:3.3.4-9)) 
#1 Sat Aug 28 13:18:58 EDT 2004
BIOS-provided physical RAM map:
 BIOS-e820:  - 0009fc00 (usable)
 BIOS-e820: 0009fc00 - 000a (reserved)
 BIOS-e820: 000f - 0010 (reserved)
 BIOS-e820: 0010 - 1400 (usable)
 BIOS-e820:  - 0001 (reserved)
320MB LOWMEM available.
On node 0 totalpages: 81920
  DMA zone: 4096 pages, LIFO batch:1
  Normal zone: 77824 pages, LIFO batch:16
  HighMem zone: 0 pages, LIFO batch:1
DMI 2.0 present.
ACPI disabled because your bios is from 99 and too old
You can enable it with acpi=force
Built 1 zonelists
Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=Linux ro root=301
Local APIC disabled by BIOS -- reenabling.
Found and enabled local APIC!
Initializing CPU#0
PID hash table entries: 2048 (order 11: 16384 bytes)
Detected 350.846 MHz processor.
Using tsc for high-res timesource
Console: colour VGA+ 80x25
Dentry cache hash table entries: 65536 (order: 6, 262144 bytes)
Inode-cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 5, 131072 bytes)
Memory: 317148k/327680k available (1329k kernel code, 9764k reserved, 727k data, 204k 
init, 0k highmem)
Checking if this processor honours the WP bit even in supervisor mode... Ok.
Calibrating delay loop... 690.17 BogoMIPS
Security Scaffold v1.0.0 initialized
Mount-cache hash table entries: 512 (order: 0, 4096 bytes)
CPU: After generic identify, caps: 0183fbff   
CPU: After vendor identify, caps:  0183fbff   
CPU: L1 I cache: 16K, L1 D cache: 16K
CPU: L2 cache: 512K
CPU: After all inits, caps:0183fbff   0040
CPU: Intel Pentium II (Deschutes) stepping 02
Enabling fast FPU save and restore... done.
Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK.
Checking for popad bug... OK.
enabled ExtINT on CPU#0
ESR value before enabling vector: 
ESR value after enabling vector: 
Using local APIC timer interrupts.
calibrating APIC timer ...
. CPU clock speed is 350.0731 MHz.
. host bus clock speed is 100.0208 MHz.
checking if image is initramfs...it isn't (ungzip failed); looks like an initrd
Freeing initrd memory: 4264k freed
NET: Registered protocol family 16
EISA bus registered
PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfb340, last bus=1
PCI: Using configuration type 1
mtrr: v2.0 (20020519)
ACPI: Subsystem revision 20040326
ACPI: Interpreter disabled.
Linux Plug and Play Support v0.97 (c) Adam Belay
PnPBIOS: Scanning system for PnP BIOS support...
PnPBIOS: Found PnP BIOS installation structure at 0xc00fbf00
PnPBIOS: PnP BIOS version 1.0, entry 0xf:0xbf28, dseg 0xf
pnp: 00:0b: ioport range 0x208-0x20f has been reserved
PnPBIOS: 15 nodes reported by PnP BIOS; 15 recorded by driver
PCI: Probing PCI hardware
PCI: Probing PCI hardware (bus 00)
VFS: Disk quotas dquot_6.5.1
Dquot-cache hash table entries: 1024 (order 0, 4096 bytes)
devfs: 2004-01-31 Richard Gooch ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
devfs: boot_options: 0x0
Initializing Cryptographic API
Limiting direct PCI/PCI transfers.
isapnp: Scanning for PnP cards...
isapnp: Card 'U.S. Robotics 56K FAX INT'
isapnp: 1 Plug & Play card detected total
Serial: 8250/16550 driver $Revision: 1.90 $ 54 ports, IRQ sharing enabled
ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
pnp: Device 01:01.00 activated.
ttyS1 at I/O 0x2f8 (irq = 3) 

Re: console-tools config w. framebuffers

2004-09-25 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
Hi Debian!!
Because of a quirk (vc's and displaying graphical characters to make 
boxes ;-) ) I got the console-tools package to show graphical characters.

I put this in /etc/console-tools/config:
SCREEN_FONT=default8x16.psf.gz
APP_CHARSET_MAP=cp437_to_iso01.trans
Works great on vc#1, the first one.
Now the config file warns that with framebuffers this only is good for 
vc #1. OK. So I tried this to get my characters to show up on all vc's:

SCREEN_FONT=default8x16.psf.gz
SCREEN_FONT_vc2=default8x16.psf.gz
SCREEN_FONT_vc3=default8x16.psf.gz
SCREEN_FONT_vc4=default8x16.psf.gz
SCREEN_FONT_vc5=default8x16.psf.gz
SCREEN_FONT_vc6=default8x16.psf.gz
#
APP_CHARSET_MAP=cp437_to_iso01.trans
APP_CHARSET_MAP_vc2=cp437_to_iso01.trans
APP_CHARSET_MAP_vc3=cp437_to_iso01.trans
APP_CHARSET_MAP_vc4=cp437_to_iso01.trans
APP_CHARSET_MAP_vc5=cp437_to_iso01.trans
APP_CHARSET_MAP_vc6=cp437_to_iso01.trans
which, sad to say, does NOT work. Can anybody tell me what I do wrong?
Because you got caught in the "do not modify the console-screen.sh 
script" game.
Once the new one got used everything works as advertised.
Doesn't anybody do this?

Hugo
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Newbie first-time install advice: Highpoint Rocket 133SB

2004-09-25 Thread David Witbrodt
I am about to install Linux for the first time in the next week or two,
as soon as I finish backing up my old hard drive.

I received a WD 160 GB hard drive as a gift earlier this year, but have
not found a chance to install it until now.  I assumed I could just plug
it in, but when I began reading about it I realized that my old PC
(circa 2000) cannot handle IDE drives larger than 137 GB.  Further
reading helped me understand that buying a newer IDE controller would
allow me to use the big drive.

I plan a multiboot system with Windows XP (and maybe a couple of other
OSes), and I have on-hand all of the drivers and docs I need to make
that work.  Unfortunately, I am still unclear about how to allow Debian
to support the IDE controller.

First, several retailers listed Debian as a distro for which there is
Rocket 133SB support.  But the Highpoint website itself provides no such
support, except for source code for the drivers (which hopefully
compiles and functions for Debian).  Unfortunately, I am a newbie and
have no idea (at this time) how to take advantage of those sources. 
Even if I did, I don't have an installed Linux with which to compile
them.

Second, when reading about "stable" Debian I seemed to find that the
kernel doesn't quite support large LBA48 hard drives, an issue quite
aside from support for the controller card.  Unfortunately, I had
already downloaded and burned 3.0r2 CDs of disk 1 and disk 5 (bf2.4),
thinking those would be all I needed.  Being a newbie, I thought
sticking with "stable" would be a better idea until I become more
familiar with how Linux works.

After discovering the LBA48 road block, I searched around a little and
found the HILUX website -- an update for "stable" with a kernel (2.4.26)
which should support LBA48.  It was just after I downloaded and burned
that mini-CD that it occurred to me that the Rocket 133SB controller
might not be supported.  When I went looking for info about that, I
arrived at my current state of confusion.

I would rather install from CD, since I am a total newbie (with Linux)
and doubt I could make my DSL connection work if it did not autodetect. 
But just in case, I downloaded a Sarge netinst CD a couple of weeks
ago.  (Since then, I have simply been finishing the backup job on the
old drive before I start playing around inside the case -- I have other
new hardware to install besides the Rocket controller.)

If any Debian users out there have comments or advice before I begin my
big experiment (I look forward to it, even if I do have lots of
problems!), please speak up.  I will be beginning in the next week or
two -- as soon as I have a couple of days off from work after I finish
backing up -- so there is still time for me to learn the right way
before I learn the HARD way!


TIA,
Dave Witbrodt


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Re: Newbie first-time install advice: Highpoint Rocket 133SB

2004-09-25 Thread Stefan O'Rear
On Sat, Sep 25, 2004 at 05:27:27PM -0400, David Witbrodt wrote:
> I am about to install Linux for the first time in the next week or two,
> as soon as I finish backing up my old hard drive.
> 
> I received a WD 160 GB hard drive as a gift earlier this year, but have
> not found a chance to install it until now.  I assumed I could just plug
> it in, but when I began reading about it I realized that my old PC
> (circa 2000) cannot handle IDE drives larger than 137 GB.  Further
> reading helped me understand that buying a newer IDE controller would
> allow me to use the big drive.
> 
> I plan a multiboot system with Windows XP (and maybe a couple of other
> OSes), and I have on-hand all of the drivers and docs I need to make
> that work.  Unfortunately, I am still unclear about how to allow Debian
> to support the IDE controller.
Linux autodetects nearly anything.  Non-hardware things like PPPoE (IIRC
this is used by DSL) can be trickier.  Also, there are Linux-hostile
hardware vendors out there; be very careful near wireless LAN cards,
modems, and 3D-accelerated graphics cards. (ATI refuses to support
Linux, NVidia officially supports Linux but the drivers aren't open
source.)

> First, several retailers listed Debian as a distro for which there is
> Rocket 133SB support.  But the Highpoint website itself provides no such
> support, except for source code for the drivers (which hopefully
> compiles and functions for Debian).  Unfortunately, I am a newbie and
> have no idea (at this time) how to take advantage of those sources. 
> Even if I did, I don't have an installed Linux with which to compile
> them.

Don't usually bother with the manufacturor's website.  Almost everyone
seems to have been brainwashed into thinking "Red Hat is Linux; Debian
doesn't exist".

Almost all DSFG-free GPL-compatible drivers come with the kernel;
non-kernel drivers are contraversial, obscure, proprietary, non (beer)
free, very new, or some combination of the above.

> Second, when reading about "stable" Debian I seemed to find that the
> kernel doesn't quite support large LBA48 hard drives, an issue quite
> aside from support for the controller card.  Unfortunately, I had
> already downloaded and burned 3.0r2 CDs of disk 1 and disk 5 (bf2.4),
> thinking those would be all I needed.  Being a newbie, I thought
> sticking with "stable" would be a better idea until I become more
> familiar with how Linux works.
Sarge will be stable Real Soon Now.

Woody was frozen in 2001/2. Still gets security updates, but no new
programs.

> After discovering the LBA48 road block, I searched around a little and
> found the HILUX website -- an update for "stable" with a kernel (2.4.26)
> which should support LBA48.  It was just after I downloaded and burned
> that mini-CD that it occurred to me that the Rocket 133SB controller
> might not be supported.  When I went looking for info about that, I
> arrived at my current state of confusion.
> 
> I would rather install from CD, since I am a total newbie (with Linux)
> and doubt I could make my DSL connection work if it did not autodetect. 
> But just in case, I downloaded a Sarge netinst CD a couple of weeks
> ago.  (Since then, I have simply been finishing the backup job on the
> old drive before I start playing around inside the case -- I have other
> new hardware to install besides the Rocket controller.)
Try it and see.  The worst that could happen is the install won't
succeed.

Do use sarge though. The Woody installer ('boot-floppies') is nearly
impossible to use.

> If any Debian users out there have comments or advice before I begin my
> big experiment (I look forward to it, even if I do have lots of
> problems!), please speak up.  I will be beginning in the next week or
> two -- as soon as I have a couple of days off from work after I finish
> backing up -- so there is still time for me to learn the right way
> before I learn the HARD way!

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Re: usb flash drive fails on front ports

2004-09-25 Thread Jerome R. Acks
On Sat, Sep 25, 2004 at 11:35:35PM +0930, David Purton wrote:
> Does anyone have an idea why a usb pen drive would be detected and work
> fine using the usb ports on the back of my shuttle xpc SB62G2, but is
> not even detected as plugged in when using the front ports?
> 
> Googling suggests that this might be due to some front usb ports not
> delivering enough power to the drive.
> 
> Are there any other software problems that might cause this or must I
> just live with it?

I had a similar problem with USB devices about a year ago. Some device
would be recognized if plugged into a front port and not recognized
if plugged into a rear port.

What I conluded was the 2.4.20 through 2.4.25 kernels I was using did
not completely support my motherboard, which has an nVidia nForce2
chipset and USB controller, since switching to a 2.6 kernel fixed the
problem. I am currently using a Debian kernel-image-2.6.5-1-k7. I've
also tried 2.6.7-1-k7 and 2.6.8-1-k7 but have had some problems with
them. 

If you have fairly new hardware, your current kernel drivers may not
completely support it.

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Re: APIC: what is it good for? Can I switch it off?

2004-09-25 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 23 Sep 2004, Dave Carrigan wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 23, 2004 at 05:10:38PM +0200, Stefan Gößling-Reisemann wrote:
> > "Spurious 8259A interrupt: IRQ7"
> 
> This particular message is probably because you have nothing connected
> to your parallel port. Disable your parallel port in your BIOS or

Not really.  It *could* be that his parallel port is broken (if nothing is
connected there), but IRQ7 is also an "error interrupt", and the APICs will
signal it when they notice something amiss.

I have yet to seen a machine that does not issue one of those a little bit
after bootup.  They do this just once, though.

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  them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond
  where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot
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Re: Newbie first-time install advice: Highpoint Rocket 133SB

2004-09-25 Thread David Witbrodt

Stefan O'Rear wrote:
> 
> Linux autodetects nearly anything.  Non-hardware things like PPPoE (IIRC
> this is used by DSL) can be trickier.  Also, there are Linux-hostile
> hardware vendors out there; be very careful near wireless LAN cards,
> modems, and 3D-accelerated graphics cards. (ATI refuses to support
> Linux, NVidia officially supports Linux but the drivers aren't open
> source.)

  I am glad to hear about the autodetect, but I am a bit worried about
autodetection of my NIC (HP EN1207D-TX) and my video (NVidia Vanta on
motherboard).
  I have a SpeedStream 5100b, which has a built-in router, for DSL. 
That is supposed to make things easier, since it handles PPPoE itself. 
On the other hand, if I have the slightest problem I will be
stonewalled, since I'm a total newbie.  That's my main reason for
preferring CDs over netinst.  I kept a forum article where someone
explained that I only need something called DHCP to be able to use
Linux; unfortunately, I don't even know what that is (yet).


> Don't usually bother with the manufacturor's website.  Almost everyone
> seems to have been brainwashed into thinking "Red Hat is Linux; Debian
> doesn't exist".
> 
> Almost all DSFG-free GPL-compatible drivers come with the kernel;
> non-kernel drivers are contraversial, obscure, proprietary, non (beer)
> free, very new, or some combination of the above.

  I will be able to ignore the Highpoint website only if I can find a
kernel with built-in support for the Rocket 133SB controller. 
Otherwise, I will have to use their open source driver code, and then
learn how to compile my own kernel, or use the driver as a kernel
module, from what I've read.  The website has binary packages for 3
other distros, but at least provides source code for the drivers you can
compile yourself.  I was hoping to hear from someone already using a
Rocket 133SB, so that I would know which kernels already support it, or
whether I will be forced to compile the drivers myself... which will be
a bit over my head for a while!
  Not having a kernel with Rocket 133SB support would mean installing
Debian to the old hard drive until I can get a kernel working which can
handle the controller and hard drive.  It's THOSE things that I wish
would autodetect!  And maybe they will, but I won't be able to try for
several more days.


> Sarge will be stable Real Soon Now.

  I did download a Sarge netinst CD, as I mentioned before.  I saw the
announcement in August that it would become the new "stable" by 9/15,
but that appears to have been wishful thinking.  If netinst can't figure
out how to use my DSL connection, that CD is useless anyway -- unless
someone can tell me how to finesse it to work with my DSL modem.

> Woody was frozen in 2001/2. Still gets security updates, but no new
> programs.

  Yes, and when I noticed it couldn't handle the big HD, that's when I
searched and found HILUX.  The only problem is that I don't know if it
supports the Rocket.  I will give it a try, since I don't know how else
to find out whether it will work.

 
> Do use sarge though. The Woody installer ('boot-floppies') is nearly
> impossible to use.

  I was under the impression that boot floppies are no longer necessary
with boot CDs.  Isn't that so?


Thanks for the response,
Dave W.


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alsa not working on Intel 865 (Asus P4P800)

2004-09-25 Thread Jonathan Pearce
Hello-

I've installed alsa on Debian unstable and I get no sound output. I am
using a custom 2.6.8 kernel built using kernel-package. I installed
alsa using the alsa-source package. All my tests indicate that alsa is
installed correctly using the intel8x0 driver. I can run alsamixer
without problems. I have unmuted the Master and PCM channels and set
them to 100%. I have just one entry in my /proc/asound/cards file. I
have tried plugging my headphones into all three jacks on my
motherboard (Line In, Line Out, Mic). I have set my libao.conf to
point to alsa.

The only thing I see which is suspicious is all my modules
configuration is in modules.conf, not modprobe.conf. Is that normal
for a 2.6 system?

When I run mpg123 on an mp3, it gives the following, apparently normal, output:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Desktop/Music$ music123 richards_soundcheck.mp3
High Performance MPEG 1.0/2.0/2.5 Audio Player for Layer 1, 2, and 3.
Version 0.59q (2002/03/23). Written and copyrights by Joe Drew.
Uses code from various people. See 'README' for more!
THIS SOFTWARE COMES WITH ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY! USE AT YOUR OWN RISK!
Title  : Artist:
Album  : Year  :
   Genre : Other

Playing MPEG stream from richards_soundcheck.mp3 ...
MPEG 1.0 layer III, 160 kbit/s, 44100 Hz stereo

However, mpg123 fails to return after one minute, fifty seconds (which
is the length of the mp3). In fact, mpg123 fails to return at all. I
have to CTL+C it.

When I run Rhythmbox on the mp3, it generates the following error:

Could not create audio output element; check your settings

I probably don't have GNOME sound set up correctly.

When I run xmms on the mp3, it doesn't generate an error, but the song
progress bar fails to proceed. The timer does not count up, and xmms
seems to lock after I press the play button again. I have to kill it.

Does anyone have any insight into what's going on? I've pasted a dump
of my configuration (using the aadebug script) onto the bottom of this
email.

Please CC me on any replies. I do not subscribe to debian-user.

Sincerely,
Jonathan Pearce

ALSA Audio Debug v0.0.8 - Sat Sep 25 08:51:24 PDT 2004
http://alsa.opensrc.org/?aadebug

Kernel 
Linux syed 2.6.8 #1 SMP Sat Sep 25 05:03:02 PDT 2004 i686 GNU/Linux

Loaded Modules 
snd_seq_oss32512  0 
snd_seq_midi_event  6656  1 snd_seq_oss
snd_seq52112  4 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_pcm_oss48680  1 
snd_mixer_oss  17408  1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_intel8x0   31532  3 
snd_ac97_codec 65668  1 snd_intel8x0
snd_pcm86816  3 snd_pcm_oss,snd_intel8x0
snd_timer  22404  2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
snd_page_alloc  9224  2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm
snd_mpu401_uart 6656  1 snd_intel8x0
snd_rawmidi20800  1 snd_mpu401_uart
snd_seq_device  6792  3 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_rawmidi
snd48484  16
snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event,snd_seq,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device

Modules Conf -
alias char-major-116 snd
alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0
alias char-major-14 soundcore
alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0
alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss
above snd-pcm snd-pcm-oss
above snd-mixer snd-mixer-oss
above snd-seq snd-seq-oss

Proc Asound ---
Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.4 (Mon May 17
14:31:44 2004 UTC).
Compiled on Sep 25 2004 for kernel 2.6.8 (SMP).
0 [ICH5   ]: ICH - Intel ICH5
 Intel ICH5 at 0xfebff800, irq 201
  0: [0- 0]: ctl
 20: [0- 4]: digital audio playback
 27: [0- 3]: digital audio capture
 26: [0- 2]: digital audio capture
 25: [0- 1]: digital audio capture
 16: [0- 0]: digital audio playback
 24: [0- 0]: digital audio capture
  1:   : sequencer
 33:   : timer
00-00: Intel ICH : Intel ICH5 : playback 1 : capture 1
00-01: Intel ICH - MIC ADC : Intel ICH5 - MIC ADC : capture 1
00-02: Intel ICH - MIC2 ADC : Intel ICH5 - MIC2 ADC : capture 1
00-03: Intel ICH - ADC2 : Intel ICH5 - ADC2 : capture 1
00-04: Intel ICH - IEC958 : Intel ICH5 - IEC958 : playback 1

Dev Snd ---
controlC0  hwC2D3midiC1D2  midiC3D1  pcmC0D4c  pcmC1D3p  pcmC2D3c  pcmC3D2p
controlC1  hwC3D0midiC1D3  midiC3D2  pcmC0D4p  pcmC1D4c  pcmC2D3p  pcmC3D3c
controlC2  hwC3D1midiC1D4  midiC3D3  pcmC0D5c  pcmC1D4p  pcmC2D4c  pcmC3D3p
controlC3  hwC3D2midiC1D5  midiC3D4  pcmC0D5p  pcmC1D5c  pcmC2D4p  pcmC3D4c
hwC0D0 hwC

using parted -- safely on /dev/md*?

2004-09-25 Thread Will Trillich
we've got a client who put a horrible partitioning scheme in
place on their raid-mirror setup -- and are wondering if we can
remotely run 'parted' to recover from this...?


$ df
Filesystem1k-blocksUsed Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/md1   72090640  869700  68291332   2% /
/dev/md23747472  434952   3160232  13% /var
/dev/md0  932075344 84013   6% /boot

there's plenty of room for more partitions, if we can shrink
/ down to a coupla gig (from 68!)


$ mount
/dev/md1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
proc on /proc type proc (rw)
devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
/dev/md2 on /var type ext3 (rw)
/dev/md0 on /boot type ext3 (rw)


$ fdisk -l

Disk /dev/hda: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 9726 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes

   Device Boot  Start   EndBlocks   Id  System
/dev/hda1   *   112 96358+  83  Linux
/dev/hda2  13   134979965   82  Linux swap
/dev/hda3 135  9252  73240335   83  Linux
/dev/hda49253  9726   3807405   83  Linux

Disk /dev/hdb: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 9726 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes

   Device Boot  Start   EndBlocks   Id  System
/dev/hdb1   112 96358+  fd  Linux raid autodetect
/dev/hdb2  13   134979965   82  Linux swap
/dev/hdb3 135  9252  73240335   fd  Linux raid autodetect
/dev/hdb49253  9726   3807405   fd  Linux raid autodetect


is this raid /dev/md* stuff something that parted can handle?
the client machine is 1200 miles from here -- we'd rather leave
it as-is and symlink everything than risk borking the machine
from afar.

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Missing "Disks" entry in Gnome desktop menu

2004-09-25 Thread Martin Weinberg
Hi folks,

I'm running Gnome 2.6 from sarge.

I'd very much like to have a "Disks" entry in my desktop menu so I can
mount and unmount usb storage.

I'm not sure if this is a Gnome issue or a Debian issue or (more likely)
that I'm missing something about Gnome 2.6.

Does anyone know how to fix this?

--Martin


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Re: Newbie first-time install advice: Highpoint Rocket 133SB

2004-09-25 Thread Stefan O'Rear
On Sat, Sep 25, 2004 at 07:03:26PM -0400, David Witbrodt wrote:
>   I am glad to hear about the autodetect, but I am a bit worried about
> autodetection of my NIC (HP EN1207D-TX) and my video (NVidia Vanta on
> motherboard).
>   I have a SpeedStream 5100b, which has a built-in router, for DSL. 
> That is supposed to make things easier, since it handles PPPoE itself. 
> On the other hand, if I have the slightest problem I will be
> stonewalled, since I'm a total newbie.  That's my main reason for
> preferring CDs over netinst.  I kept a forum article where someone
> explained that I only need something called DHCP to be able to use
> Linux; unfortunately, I don't even know what that is (yet).
If you have a local network (if you have a router you have a local
network) than you don't need to worry about DSL.  If you have a working
router and a working NIC you have working internet.  

DHCP means that you don't need to enter your IP address. Dynamic Host
Configuration Protocol makes things MUCH easier.  Even a total newbie
should know how to turn the computer off when the install doesn't work :)

> > Don't usually bother with the manufacturor's website.  Almost everyone
> > seems to have been brainwashed into thinking "Red Hat is Linux; Debian
> > doesn't exist".
> > 
> > Almost all DSFG-free GPL-compatible drivers come with the kernel;
> > non-kernel drivers are contraversial, obscure, proprietary, non (beer)
> > free, very new, or some combination of the above.
> 
>   I will be able to ignore the Highpoint website only if I can find a
> kernel with built-in support for the Rocket 133SB controller. 
> Otherwise, I will have to use their open source driver code, and then
> learn how to compile my own kernel, or use the driver as a kernel
> module, from what I've read.  The website has binary packages for 3
> other distros, but at least provides source code for the drivers you can
> compile yourself.  I was hoping to hear from someone already using a
> Rocket 133SB, so that I would know which kernels already support it, or
> whether I will be forced to compile the drivers myself... which will be
> a bit over my head for a while!
>   Not having a kernel with Rocket 133SB support would mean installing
> Debian to the old hard drive until I can get a kernel working which can
> handle the controller and hard drive.  It's THOSE things that I wish
> would autodetect!  And maybe they will, but I won't be able to try for
> several more days.

Linux doesn't usually support devices.  It supports chipsets.  Often,
multiple device brands use the same chipset type.  For instance, I have
Creative Labs integrated sound, but I use the Ensoniq ES1371 driver.

I opened up the case and looked at the sound ports with a flashlight,
but hotplug and discover (two programs used by debian-installer to
detect hardware) are supposed to make that unnecessary.

Chances are VERY good the Rocket 133SB uses a standard controller. There
is one driver that supports all standard IDE/ATA/SATA controllers.

Don't worry about it unless the install doesn't work.

> > Sarge will be stable Real Soon Now.
> 
>   I did download a Sarge netinst CD, as I mentioned before.  I saw the
> announcement in August that it would become the new "stable" by 9/15,
> but that appears to have been wishful thinking.  If netinst can't figure
> out how to use my DSL connection, that CD is useless anyway -- unless
> someone can tell me how to finesse it to work with my DSL modem.
1. That is what debian-user is here for.

2. Try it and see - it could work, and since you backed up your data it
   can't mess things up.

> > Woody was frozen in 2001/2. Still gets security updates, but no new
> > programs.
> 
>   Yes, and when I noticed it couldn't handle the big HD, that's when I
> searched and found HILUX.  The only problem is that I don't know if it
> supports the Rocket.  I will give it a try, since I don't know how else
> to find out whether it will work.

> > Do use sarge though. The Woody installer ('boot-floppies') is nearly
> > impossible to use.
> 
>   I was under the impression that boot floppies are no longer necessary
> with boot CDs.  Isn't that so?

You are correct.  boot-floppies is only a name.

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kernel-image-x.x.xx-i686-smc ? What's the smc stand for?

2004-09-25 Thread Eric Dickner
And how can I tell if I have a plain i686 machine or
an i686-smc one?

Thanks,

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Re: alsa not working on Intel 865 (Asus P4P800)

2004-09-25 Thread Jonathan Pearce
I get this slightly more helpful error message from tuxracer:

ALSA lib pcm_hw.c:1155:(snd_pcm_hw_open) open /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
failed: Device or resource busy
%%% tuxracer warning: Warning: Couldn't set 22050 Hz 16-bit audio
  Reason: No available audio device

Sincerely,
Jonathan Pearce

On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 16:23:29 -0700, Jonathan Pearce
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello-
> 
> I've installed alsa on Debian unstable and I get no sound output. I am
> using a custom 2.6.8 kernel built using kernel-package. I installed
> alsa using the alsa-source package. All my tests indicate that alsa is
> installed correctly using the intel8x0 driver. I can run alsamixer
> without problems. I have unmuted the Master and PCM channels and set
> them to 100%. I have just one entry in my /proc/asound/cards file. I
> have tried plugging my headphones into all three jacks on my
> motherboard (Line In, Line Out, Mic). I have set my libao.conf to
> point to alsa.
> 
> The only thing I see which is suspicious is all my modules
> configuration is in modules.conf, not modprobe.conf. Is that normal
> for a 2.6 system?
> 
> When I run mpg123 on an mp3, it gives the following, apparently normal, output:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Desktop/Music$ music123 richards_soundcheck.mp3
> High Performance MPEG 1.0/2.0/2.5 Audio Player for Layer 1, 2, and 3.
> Version 0.59q (2002/03/23). Written and copyrights by Joe Drew.
> Uses code from various people. See 'README' for more!
> THIS SOFTWARE COMES WITH ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY! USE AT YOUR OWN RISK!
> Title  : Artist:
> Album  : Year  :
>Genre : Other
> 
> Playing MPEG stream from richards_soundcheck.mp3 ...
> MPEG 1.0 layer III, 160 kbit/s, 44100 Hz stereo
> 
> However, mpg123 fails to return after one minute, fifty seconds (which
> is the length of the mp3). In fact, mpg123 fails to return at all. I
> have to CTL+C it.
> 
> When I run Rhythmbox on the mp3, it generates the following error:
> 
> Could not create audio output element; check your settings
> 
> I probably don't have GNOME sound set up correctly.
> 
> When I run xmms on the mp3, it doesn't generate an error, but the song
> progress bar fails to proceed. The timer does not count up, and xmms
> seems to lock after I press the play button again. I have to kill it.
> 
> Does anyone have any insight into what's going on? I've pasted a dump
> of my configuration (using the aadebug script) onto the bottom of this
> email.
> 
> Please CC me on any replies. I do not subscribe to debian-user.
> 
> Sincerely,
> Jonathan Pearce
> 
> ALSA Audio Debug v0.0.8 - Sat Sep 25 08:51:24 PDT 2004
> http://alsa.opensrc.org/?aadebug
> 
> Kernel 
> Linux syed 2.6.8 #1 SMP Sat Sep 25 05:03:02 PDT 2004 i686 GNU/Linux
> 
> Loaded Modules 
> snd_seq_oss32512  0
> snd_seq_midi_event  6656  1 snd_seq_oss
> snd_seq52112  4 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event
> snd_pcm_oss48680  1
> snd_mixer_oss  17408  1 snd_pcm_oss
> snd_intel8x0   31532  3
> snd_ac97_codec 65668  1 snd_intel8x0
> snd_pcm86816  3 snd_pcm_oss,snd_intel8x0
> snd_timer  22404  2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
> snd_page_alloc  9224  2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm
> snd_mpu401_uart 6656  1 snd_intel8x0
> snd_rawmidi20800  1 snd_mpu401_uart
> snd_seq_device  6792  3 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_rawmidi
> snd48484  16
> snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event,snd_seq,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device
> 
> Modules Conf -
> alias char-major-116 snd
> alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0
> alias char-major-14 soundcore
> alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0
> alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
> alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
> alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
> alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss
> alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss
> above snd-pcm snd-pcm-oss
> above snd-mixer snd-mixer-oss
> above snd-seq snd-seq-oss
> 
> Proc Asound ---
> Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.4 (Mon May 17
> 14:31:44 2004 UTC).
> Compiled on Sep 25 2004 for kernel 2.6.8 (SMP).
> 0 [ICH5   ]: ICH - Intel ICH5
>  Intel ICH5 at 0xfebff800, irq 201
>   0: [0- 0]: ctl
>  20: [0- 4]: digital audio playback
>  27: [0- 3]: digital audio capture
>  26: [0- 2]: digital audio capture
>  25: [0- 1]: digital audio capture
>  16: [0- 0]: digital audio playback
>  24: [0- 0]: digital audio capture
>   1:   : sequencer
>  33:   : timer
> 00-00: Intel ICH : Intel ICH5 : playback 1 : capture 1
> 00-01: Intel ICH - MIC ADC : Intel ICH5 - MIC ADC : captur

UML - User Mode Linux

2004-09-25 Thread SmileyByte
Hello,

I'm trying to use UML (User Mode Linux) inside Debian, but I've been
running thru a few problems.

I installed the packages rootstrap, user-mode-linux and uml-utilities. I
tried to run rootstrap to create a filesystem image, but it failed; then
I tried to create a filesystem by hand and see if UML would run.

I'm running uml_switch, configured the tap0 interface, and even
installed dhcp3-server as suggested by the docs (binded to the tap0
interface), it doesn't work. When I try 
# linux ubd0=image eth0=daemon
it stops at the line:
NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0

I've tried also using tuntap, loading the tun module:
# linux ubd0=image eth0=tuntap,tap0
then it stops here:
Netdevice 0

The interface tap0 is correctly configured, and uml_switch is running:

# ifconfig tap0
tap0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr FE:FD:00:00:00:00
  inet addr:192.168.0.1  Bcast:192.168.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
# ps -ef|grep uml
uml-net  19986 1  0 21:17 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/uml_switch -tap
tap0 -unix /var/run/uml-utilities/uml_switch.ctl


Anyone knows what more can be wrong?

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Re: kernel-image-x.x.xx-i686-smc ? What's the smc stand for?

2004-09-25 Thread robin
Eric Dickner wrote:
And how can I tell if I have a plain i686 machine or
an i686-smc one?
Thanks,
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Do you mean smp? If so its symmtric multi-processing ie dual processor, 
quad processor
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Re: kernel-image-x.x.xx-i686-smc ? What's the smc stand for?

2004-09-25 Thread Stefan O'Rear
On Sun, Sep 26, 2004 at 01:25:00AM +0100, robin wrote:
> Eric Dickner wrote:
> 
> >And how can I tell if I have a plain i686 machine or
> >an i686-smc one?
> >
> Do you mean smp? If so its symmtric multi-processing ie dual processor, 
> quad processor

Something to note: If you have one processor, but it as advertised as
"dual-core" or "HyperThreading", then you should use i686-smp in order
to use the features.

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Re: Newbie first-time install advice: Highpoint Rocket 133SB

2004-09-25 Thread David Witbrodt

Stefan O'Rear wrote:
> 
> If you have a local network (if you have a router you have a local
> network) than you don't need to worry about DSL.  If you have a working
> router and a working NIC you have working internet.

  It's not a real router, and I do not have a LAN.  It's a "router"
built-in to the 5100b modem.  A real router allows attachment of
external devices, but this "router" is actually built into the DSL modem
case, making for a different sort of connection to the NIC.  I think it
is the standard SBC (phone company) choice for DSL modems in order to
make their automated Windows installer more trouble-free.
  So, no LAN.

> DHCP means that you don't need to enter your IP address. Dynamic Host
> Configuration Protocol makes things MUCH easier.  Even a total newbie
> should know how to turn the computer off when the install doesn't work :)

  Yes, this newbie knows that much.
  What I don't know is how to alter the installation configuration if it
can't figure out how to handle my DSL connection.  If the HILUX update
CDs don't work, I will give the Sarge netinst CD a try.
  If you know something about using DSL with this particular modem
(SpeedStream 5100b), and can warn me about problems I will face if I try
to use the netinst CD, then that info would be very helpful.  Otherwise,
I can't ask for anything more specific until I try it... assuming I have
problems, that is!

  My understanding of DHCP is that it is a networking protocol supported
by some specific Linux package(s).  As a newbie, I know about power
buttons, but not technical alterations to configuration files in the
event that the installer cannot figure out what to do.


> Linux doesn't usually support devices.  It supports chipsets.  Often,
> multiple device brands use the same chipset type.  For instance, I have
> Creative Labs integrated sound, but I use the Ensoniq ES1371 driver.
> 
> I opened up the case and looked at the sound ports with a flashlight,
> but hotplug and discover (two programs used by debian-installer to
> detect hardware) are supposed to make that unnecessary.
> 
> Chances are VERY good the Rocket 133SB uses a standard controller. There
> is one driver that supports all standard IDE/ATA/SATA controllers.

  It is not a standard IDE controller, in the sense of the usual
controller chipsets on the motherboards.  We can know this because the
manufacturer provides binary driver packages on their websites for
several Linux distributions.  (If the standard "one driver" provided
with Linux for IDE support worked, those extra packages would be
unnecessary, I presume.)  This controller is a PCI card that supports
drives larger than 137 GB, with its own BIOS so that other OSes which
rely on the BIOS for disk support can use these larger drives as well. 
(I also know that Linux does not rely on BIOS support for drive access,
but it looks like I need a special driver for Linux to use the
controller card.)
  My hope in posting to debian-user was to hear from someone using a
Rocket 133SB, so they could tell me about their experiences.  Does
Debian have built-in support?  (I doubt it, but I thought I would ask
here in case someone who knows would see my message.)  If not, what
steps should I take to get myself a Debian kernel that can use the
Rocket controller?

 
> Don't worry about it unless the install doesn't work.

  OK.  I was only hoping to hear from someone with this equipment before
I make the attempt, since I have reason to believe it won't work...


> >   I did download a Sarge netinst CD, as I mentioned before.  I saw the
> > announcement in August that it would become the new "stable" by 9/15,
> > but that appears to have been wishful thinking.  If netinst can't figure
> > out how to use my DSL connection, that CD is useless anyway -- unless
> > someone can tell me how to finesse it to work with my DSL modem.
> 1. That is what debian-user is here for.

  And I am grateful for it!
  I was just looking for tips/hints/advice in advance...

 
> 2. Try it and see - it could work, and since you backed up your data it
>can't mess things up.

  Yep.


> >   I was under the impression that boot floppies are no longer necessary
> > with boot CDs.  Isn't that so?
> 
> You are correct.  boot-floppies is only a name.

  So, you meant the "Woody installer" CD, called "boot-floppies", is
almost impossible to use?  Ouch!  That would be what the HILUX CD has,
since it an update to "stable" (Woody).  I am going to try that first,
but you don't make it sound too promising  (Bummer.)


Thanks again,
Dave W.


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Re: Newbie first-time install advice: Highpoint Rocket 133SB

2004-09-25 Thread Roberto Sanchez
David Witbrodt wrote:
Stefan O'Rear wrote:
If you have a local network (if you have a router you have a local
network) than you don't need to worry about DSL.  If you have a working
router and a working NIC you have working internet.

  It's not a real router, and I do not have a LAN.  It's a "router"
built-in to the 5100b modem.  A real router allows attachment of
external devices, but this "router" is actually built into the DSL modem
case, making for a different sort of connection to the NIC.  I think it
is the standard SBC (phone company) choice for DSL modems in order to
make their automated Windows installer more trouble-free.
  So, no LAN.
I just moved to an area w/ SBC DSL service.  I had it set up
a couple of weeks ago.  The SpeedStream modem works no problem
with Linux.  Plug it into your NIC, get your IP address through
DHCP and browse to http://192.168.0.1 to set up your connection
and what not.  Works like a champ.
-Roberto Sanchez


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Re: UML - User Mode Linux

2004-09-25 Thread Roberto Sanchez
SmileyByte wrote:
Hello,
I'm trying to use UML (User Mode Linux) inside Debian, but I've been
running thru a few problems.
I installed the packages rootstrap, user-mode-linux and uml-utilities. I
tried to run rootstrap to create a filesystem image, but it failed; then
I tried to create a filesystem by hand and see if UML would run.
I'm running uml_switch, configured the tap0 interface, and even
installed dhcp3-server as suggested by the docs (binded to the tap0
interface), it doesn't work. When I try 
# linux ubd0=image eth0=daemon
it stops at the line:
NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0

I've tried also using tuntap, loading the tun module:
# linux ubd0=image eth0=tuntap,tap0
then it stops here:
Netdevice 0
The interface tap0 is correctly configured, and uml_switch is running:
# ifconfig tap0
tap0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr FE:FD:00:00:00:00
  inet addr:192.168.0.1  Bcast:192.168.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
# ps -ef|grep uml
uml-net  19986 1  0 21:17 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/uml_switch -tap
tap0 -unix /var/run/uml-utilities/uml_switch.ctl
Anyone knows what more can be wrong?
It has been ages since I configured a UML setup.  But here goes.
I use the tun module with no problems.  This is my command line:
/usr/bin/linux umid=uml1 ubd0=./root_fs devfs=mount root=/dev/ubd0 
eth0=daemon,,,/var/run/uml-utilities/uml_switch.ctl mem=64M

This is my uml_switch process:
$ ps -ef |grep uml
uml-net   1475 1  0 19:55 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/uml_switch -tap 
tap0 -unix /var/run/uml-utilities/uml_switch.ctl

This is my tap0:
$ sudo ifconfig tap0
Password:
tap0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:FF:10:BD:79:7F
  inet addr:192.168.2.253  Bcast:192.168.2.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
  inet6 addr: fe80::2ff:10ff:febd:797f/64 Scope:Link
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:3 errors:0 dropped:2 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
  RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:210 (210.0 b)
It looks like I have the same networking setup as you,
so I am willing to bet it has to do with the differences in
the command line.
-Roberto Sanchez


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Re: Newbie first-time install advice: Highpoint Rocket 133SB

2004-09-25 Thread David Witbrodt


Roberto Sanchez wrote:
> 
> I just moved to an area w/ SBC DSL service.  I had it set up
> a couple of weeks ago.  The SpeedStream modem works no problem
> with Linux.  Plug it into your NIC, get your IP address through
> DHCP and browse to http://192.168.0.1 to set up your connection
> and what not.  Works like a champ.

  Thank you, sir!

  For reference when I get around to installing, and for the
peace-of-mind of a newbie, what do you mean by "get your IP address
through DHCP"?  Is that a command, like this:

dhcp

It sort of sounds like you already had a running system, with the DHCP
package already installed/configured.  If my CDs don't work, and I will
have try the Sarge netinst CD that I burned.  You wouldn't happen to
know anything about that, would you?  (It sure would be nice to have
that work well if the stable CDs can't get it done!)


Sincere thanks,
Dave W.


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Re: Newbie first-time install advice: Highpoint Rocket 133SB

2004-09-25 Thread Stefan O'Rear
On Sat, Sep 25, 2004 at 08:32:38PM -0400, David Witbrodt wrote:
> > DHCP means that you don't need to enter your IP address. Dynamic Host
> > Configuration Protocol makes things MUCH easier.  Even a total newbie
> > should know how to turn the computer off when the install doesn't work :)
> 
>   Yes, this newbie knows that much.
>   What I don't know is how to alter the installation configuration if it
> can't figure out how to handle my DSL connection.  If the HILUX update
> CDs don't work, I will give the Sarge netinst CD a try.
>   If you know something about using DSL with this particular modem
> (SpeedStream 5100b), and can warn me about problems I will face if I try
> to use the netinst CD, then that info would be very helpful.  Otherwise,
> I can't ask for anything more specific until I try it... assuming I have
> problems, that is!
> 
>   My understanding of DHCP is that it is a networking protocol supported
> by some specific Linux package(s).  As a newbie, I know about power
> buttons, but not technical alterations to configuration files in the
> event that the installer cannot figure out what to do.
Yes. and that package comes with all versions of debian.  It is
automatically set up by debian-installer.

> > Linux doesn't usually support devices.  It supports chipsets.  Often,
> > multiple device brands use the same chipset type.  For instance, I have
> > Creative Labs integrated sound, but I use the Ensoniq ES1371 driver.
> > 
> > I opened up the case and looked at the sound ports with a flashlight,
> > but hotplug and discover (two programs used by debian-installer to
> > detect hardware) are supposed to make that unnecessary.
> > 
> > Chances are VERY good the Rocket 133SB uses a standard controller. There
> > is one driver that supports all standard IDE/ATA/SATA controllers.
> 
>   It is not a standard IDE controller, in the sense of the usual
> controller chipsets on the motherboards.  We can know this because the
> manufacturer provides binary driver packages on their websites for
> several Linux distributions.  (If the standard "one driver" provided
> with Linux for IDE support worked, those extra packages would be
> unnecessary, I presume.)
One would think that.

> This controller is a PCI card that supports drives larger than 137 GB,
> with its own BIOS so that other OSes which rely on the BIOS for disk
> support can use these larger drives as well.  (I also know that Linux
> does not rely on BIOS support for drive access, but it looks like I
> need a special driver for Linux to use the controller card.)
>   My hope in posting to debian-user was to hear from someone using a
> Rocket 133SB, so they could tell me about their experiences.  Does
> Debian have built-in support?  (I doubt it, but I thought I would ask
> here in case someone who knows would see my message.)  If not, what
> steps should I take to get myself a Debian kernel that can use the
> Rocket controller?

Looking in the 2.6 tree, there are drivers supporting the Highpoint 343,
345, 366, 370, 370A, and 372.

> > Don't worry about it unless the install doesn't work.
> 
>   OK.  I was only hoping to hear from someone with this equipment before
> I make the attempt, since I have reason to believe it won't work...
> 
> 
> > >   I did download a Sarge netinst CD, as I mentioned before.  I saw the
> > > announcement in August that it would become the new "stable" by 9/15,
> > > but that appears to have been wishful thinking.  If netinst can't figure
> > > out how to use my DSL connection, that CD is useless anyway -- unless
> > > someone can tell me how to finesse it to work with my DSL modem.
> > 1. That is what debian-user is here for.
> 
>   And I am grateful for it!
>   I was just looking for tips/hints/advice in advance...
> 
>  
> > 2. Try it and see - it could work, and since you backed up your data it
> >can't mess things up.
> 
>   Yep.
> 
> 
> > >   I was under the impression that boot floppies are no longer necessary
> > > with boot CDs.  Isn't that so?
> > 
> > You are correct.  boot-floppies is only a name.
> 
>   So, you meant the "Woody installer" CD, called "boot-floppies", is
> almost impossible to use?  Ouch!  That would be what the HILUX CD has,
> since it an update to "stable" (Woody).  I am going to try that first,
> but you don't make it sound too promising  (Bummer.)

Not impossible, just rather difficult.  No useful documentation, you
need to know the chipset used by most of your hardware, slow, encourages
you too partition your disk but doesn't tell you how to do it right,
chokes on ISA PNP, etc. YMMV, and probably won't be worse than mine.

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Re: Newbie first-time install advice: Highpoint Rocket 133SB

2004-09-25 Thread David Witbrodt

Stefan O'Rear wrote:
> 
> >   My understanding of DHCP is that it is a networking protocol supported
> > by some specific Linux package(s).  As a newbie, I know about power
> > buttons, but not technical alterations to configuration files in the
> > event that the installer cannot figure out what to do.
> Yes. and that package comes with all versions of debian.  It is
> automatically set up by debian-installer.

  Therefore, it should work OK.  My point was only that I've never used
it before, since I'm installing for the first time, so that if even a
simple problem comes up I won't know how to fix it.  This deb-user list
can help me in that case, but I'll have to partition and install a
Windows version to be able to access the list from home until I could
get the Linux partition to work with the DSL connection.
  You mention (below) that the Woody installer comes with poor
documentation, so that is another strike against it, I suppose?  Is the
Sarge documentation that much better?  Are you assuming that netinst
will work without needing extra help from me, so that documentation will
be available from the net?  (The netinst CD is quite small!)

  At any rate, we'll find out once I try it.  Best way to learn is by
doing.  I enjoy troubleshooting, except when there is no solution at
all

 
> > > Linux doesn't usually support devices.  It supports chipsets.  Often,
> > > multiple device brands use the same chipset type.  For instance, I have
> > > Creative Labs integrated sound, but I use the Ensoniq ES1371 driver.
[snip]
> > > Chances are VERY good the Rocket 133SB uses a standard controller. There
> > > is one driver that supports all standard IDE/ATA/SATA controllers.
> >
> >   It is not a standard IDE controller, in the sense of the usual
> > controller chipsets on the motherboards.  We can know this because the
> > manufacturer provides binary driver packages on their websites for
> > several Linux distributions.  (If the standard "one driver" provided
> > with Linux for IDE support worked, those extra packages would be
> > unnecessary, I presume.)
> One would think that.
> 
> > This controller is a PCI card that supports drives larger than 137 GB,
> > with its own BIOS so that other OSes which rely on the BIOS for disk
> > support can use these larger drives as well.  (I also know that Linux
> > does not rely on BIOS support for drive access, but it looks like I
> > need a special driver for Linux to use the controller card.)
> >   My hope in posting to debian-user was to hear from someone using a
> > Rocket 133SB, so they could tell me about their experiences.  Does
> > Debian have built-in support?  (I doubt it, but I thought I would ask
> > here in case someone who knows would see my message.)  If not, what
> > steps should I take to get myself a Debian kernel that can use the
> > Rocket controller?
> 
> Looking in the 2.6 tree, there are drivers supporting the Highpoint 343,
> 345, 366, 370, 370A, and 372.

  Now that is helpful information!  (May I ask how and where you found
this, so I will bother other folks less in the future?  The sooner I can
become self-sufficient, the sooner I can start helping other newbies on
this list! ;)
  According to the manual for the Rocket 133SB in the retail box, the
Windows drivers are called HPT302.  The source code tarball provided by
Highpoint is called

hpt302-opensource-v1.2.tgz

Looks bad for me, at first.  Maybe I should start another thread asking
for advice (i.e., "What would you do?") about how to proceed.  I have an
older 37 GB drive that works as is, and a new 160 GB drive that will
only work at maximum capacity if I use it with this Rocket133SB
controller that I bought (like a big dummy, without checking into it
first to see if Linux kernels already know about it).
  I had hoped to install all of the new hardware with my old OS first,
just to make sure it works.  Then I wanted to install Linux and XP
directly to the new big drive (through the Rocket).  Now the picture
looks more complex.  Maybe I should temporarily put my old WinME on half
of the old drive (so I can use the net to get help if I have install
problems with Debian), and install Debian on the other half.  Then I
need to compile the tarball above as a module (or should I compile a new
kernel?) so that I can create a new setup that can use the Rocket.  Then
I can partition the big drive through the Rocket for Debian and XP, and
install them over there.
  Or is/are there easier ways?

 
> Not impossible, just rather difficult.  No useful documentation, you
> need to know the chipset used by most of your hardware, slow, encourages
> you too partition your disk but doesn't tell you how to do it right,
> chokes on ISA PNP, etc. YMMV, and probably won't be worse than mine.

  You make this sound pretty bad.  I wonder if the HILUX CD is as bad as
this.  It's a lot smaller, and has a lot of updated (backported)
packages for a minimal installation, which can then be finished by
downloa

Re: Newbie first-time install advice: Highpoint Rocket 133SB

2004-09-25 Thread Stefan O'Rear
On Sat, Sep 25, 2004 at 09:46:15PM -0400, David Witbrodt wrote:
> > Looking in the 2.6 tree, there are drivers supporting the Highpoint 343,
> > 345, 366, 370, 370A, and 372.
> 
>   Now that is helpful information!  (May I ask how and where you found
> this, so I will bother other folks less in the future?  The sooner I can
> become self-sufficient, the sooner I can start helping other newbies on
> this list! ;)
>   According to the manual for the Rocket 133SB in the retail box, the
> Windows drivers are called HPT302.  The source code tarball provided by
> Highpoint is called
> 
>   hpt302-opensource-v1.2.tgz

I suspect the (34x,3[67]x) drivers will work backwards-compatibly.

> Looks bad for me, at first.  Maybe I should start another thread asking
> for advice (i.e., "What would you do?") about how to proceed.  I have an
> older 37 GB drive that works as is, and a new 160 GB drive that will
> only work at maximum capacity if I use it with this Rocket133SB
> controller that I bought (like a big dummy, without checking into it
> first to see if Linux kernels already know about it).
>   I had hoped to install all of the new hardware with my old OS first,
> just to make sure it works.  Then I wanted to install Linux and XP
> directly to the new big drive (through the Rocket).  Now the picture
> looks more complex.  Maybe I should temporarily put my old WinME on half
> of the old drive (so I can use the net to get help if I have install
> problems with Debian), and install Debian on the other half.  Then I
> need to compile the tarball above as a module (or should I compile a new
> kernel?) so that I can create a new setup that can use the Rocket.  Then
> I can partition the big drive through the Rocket for Debian and XP, and
> install them over there.
>   Or is/are there easier ways?

> > Not impossible, just rather difficult.  No useful documentation, you
> > need to know the chipset used by most of your hardware, slow, encourages
> > you too partition your disk but doesn't tell you how to do it right,
> > chokes on ISA PNP, etc. YMMV, and probably won't be worse than mine.
> 
>   You make this sound pretty bad.  I wonder if the HILUX CD is as bad as
> this.  It's a lot smaller, and has a lot of updated (backported)
> packages for a minimal installation, which can then be finished by
> downloading anything else desired.
Probably not.

The debian woody packages are dated, but still quite good.  The HILUX
people have probably substituted something else (like Red Hat's anaconda
or the Sarge installer, both of which can be made to work with woody)
for boot-floppies.

>   I have a lot to learn in a hurry!  Compiling my own kernel sounds very
> interesting, but I suppose that would be biting off more than I can chew
> as a newbie.  If that Highpoint tarball has compilation errors, or
> simply fails to run on Debian, I might be at a standstill for quite a
> while!  I'm not sure what alternatives I have, though.

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No console text

2004-09-25 Thread Nathanael Hasbrouck
I've just been working on compiling a new kernel, and now don't have any 
text on my console.  I still have a cursor, but no text is actually 
printed after lilo starts the kernel booting.  No text on any of my 
virtual consoles.  Buttons 6 & 7 on my Intellimouse Explorer don't seem to 
work either, but don't know if it's related.  These problems occur with 
both 2.6.7 and 2.6.8.1 kernels, 2.6.6 works perfectly.

Has anyone run across this before? Google hasn't told me so, if anyone has.  
dmesg output and kernel .config(s) will be posted if anyone wants to 
peruse for oddities.  *I* couldn't find any, but then, that's why I'm 
asking. :^)

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Re: Newbie first-time install advice: Highpoint Rocket 133SB

2004-09-25 Thread David Witbrodt

Gayle Lee Fairless wrote:
> 
> >I received a WD 160 GB hard drive as a gift earlier this year, but have
> >not found a chance to install it until now.  I assumed I could just plug
> >it in, but when I began reading about it I realized that my old PC
> >(circa 2000) cannot handle IDE drives larger than 137 GB.  Further
> >reading helped me understand that buying a newer IDE controller would
> >allow me to use the big drive.
> >
> >I plan a multiboot system with Windows XP (and maybe a couple of other
> >OSes), and I have on-hand all of the drivers and docs I need to make
> >that work.  Unfortunately, I am still unclear about how to allow Debian
> >to support the IDE controller.
> 
> Your configuration is somewhat similar to mine.  I have a Gateway 500
> with Windows 98SE with a 13 GB IBM hard drive as my primary drive.  I
> installed a Western Digital 160 GB hard drive (slave) on my system.  It
> was useful to download the Western Digital Data Lifeguard utility off
> Western Digital's website since the utility on Windows 98SE has a 64 GB
> limitation.  I used Western Digital's utility to partition the new 160
> GB hard drive into 6 partitions.  I used the first for Linux root, a
> spare partition for a future root system, 2 swap partitions (one for
> Linux, maybe the second for Windows), and 2 large data partitions ( one
> for Linux, the second and last for Windows and/or Linux).

  I have downloaded the WD utils, even though I haven't tried to
physically install the drive yet.  Glad to hear that it works.
  If I may ask, I was a bit confused by the instruction I read (and
printed) from the WD website explaining how to carry out the
partitioning process.  Those instructions list the following steps:

1) Connect the drive to the motherboard IDE controller
   (which can't handle >137 GB drives on old systems?).
2) Boot using the "Data Lifeguard" utils disk.
3) Install OS.
4) Power down; install LBA48 controller card, but
   leave big drive on legacy controller.  (This is so
   that Windows can just recognize the controller w/o
   being confused by an attached drive, I guess.)
5) Boot, and load drivers.
6) Power down; move big drive to new controller.
7) Power up, and OS should boot from big drive.

Did you follow these steps, or something similar?  If not, what steps
did you carry out.  (I'm quite interested, since you obviously were
successful!  I have not made the attempt yet, but info about real
experiences is most valuable.)


> I also have the 7 woody CDROM's.  I was unable to use any of the 2.2
> kernels in the first 4 choices off the installation CDROM (no. 1).
> bf2.4 had to be used.  It was the only choice that saw the partitions on
> the 160 GB hard drive.  I used cfdisk off the Linux installation CDROM
> to format (but not to partition) those partitions  in ext2 for Linux (
> partitions 1,2,3, and 5 out of six).  When you come to the Xfree86
> portion of the installation, choose simple or medium.  Do NOT choose
> advanced!   That option is for those people who know exactly what the
> hardware is on their system!  BTW, be sure to prepare list of all your
> hardware, vendors,  etc. to answer the installation questions.

  Thanks for the tip on Xfree86.  Will do
  I didn't burn 7 CD's!  I did some reading, and decided I needed disk 1
and 5 (bf2.4).  Further reading made me think that the old Woody kernels
wouldn't be able to handle my 160 GB drive, even if partitioned with the
WD tool.  Obviously, from your experience, I misunderstood and was
wrong.
  Your advice about _only_ formatting (not partitioning) with cfdisk is
also noted.  I have burned a small CD, with an updated Woody, called
HILUX.  It has a more advanced kernel, which I thought was essential
because of my misunderstanding about recognizing the big drive's
capacity.  I also hoped that it might have built-in support for my
controller, but it looks now like I'm completely out of luck in that
area.  (Elsewhere in this thread I concluded that I will have to compile
a source tarball from the manufacturer's site.  Unfortunately, being an
absolute beginner with Linux, that is going to pose a major hurdle for
me.)

 
> I happened to choose gdm for my windows manager.  Perhaps I should have
> chosen kdm instead since I now know that I like KDE.  After that it was
> just a matter of learning to use apt-get update and apt-get upgrade to
> bring the installation up to the latest stuff.  I used the package list
> off www.debian.org to shop for additional packages.  apt-get install
>  works nicely.  You have to run the apt-get commands as root.
> Be sure to create one or more user accounts for your routine use because
> it is not a good idea to run as root all the time.  You'll have to add
> the user account(s) to one or more various groups to mount floppies,
> dial out, etc.  If you have ZIP drives from Iomega, the iw utility for
> Linux off the Iomega website

Advice needed to speed up very slow machine

2004-09-25 Thread Don Jackson
I am seeking the advice of some of you who may have been down this path 
before.  Situation: I am working on an older 166 MHz Pentium-S machine with 
96 MB RAM, two 2.5GB hard drives, for a neighbor (rather poor) here in the 
Arkansas Ozarks.  She will be using it mainly for Email, web surfing, and 
possibly a few games.  She is somewhat used to Win98 and Outlook Express, but 
since I keep getting phone calls from her every time W hiccups, I decided to 
rebuild this older computer for her and put Debian GNU/Linux Sarge on it, 
figuring it might be less work for me in "service calls" ;-)

I have installed sarge with kernel 2.4.26 on it -- no problem.  Actually, 
everything works fine on it, with KDE and Kmail and Mozilla-Firefox as my 
choices (since that's what I'm using myself).  The problem is that with only 
a 166 MHz processor speed and the limited 96MB of RAM, the machine is 
agonizingly sloow!  (I'm spoiled by my own new 2.8GHz P4 with 1GB RAM)  
For example, it takes about 4-1/2 minutes for cold boot up to the KDE 
desktop.  I almost fall asleep every time I wait for Kmail to come up, and 
the same for the address book.  Once Kmail is up and running, it's response 
is satisfactory.

I feel she needs to have a GUI interface for her email, etc. since that is 
what she is used to.  She is not very computer literate and I need to make it 
as easy as possible for her to operate (she's had some brain damage from an 
accident some years ago).

Anyone have any suggestions of what I could do to improve speed within the 
constraints I have mentioned?  (Yes, I know that command line email program 
would do wonders, but she needs the GUI.)  I don't really need all the fancy 
stuff that the KDE desktop provides.  I might mention that Win98se with 
Outlook Express is quite fast (relative to sarge/kde/kmail) on this same 
machine.

Thanks for any suggestion you might make...

Don


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Re: Newbie first-time install advice: Highpoint Rocket 133SB

2004-09-25 Thread Paul E Condon
On Sat, Sep 25, 2004 at 08:32:38PM -0400, David Witbrodt wrote:
> 
> Stefan O'Rear wrote:
> > 
> > If you have a local network (if you have a router you have a local
> > network) than you don't need to worry about DSL.  If you have a working
> > router and a working NIC you have working internet.
> 
>   It's not a real router, and I do not have a LAN.  It's a "router"
> built-in to the 5100b modem.  A real router allows attachment of

I just Googled '5100b modem' and found:
http://kbserver.netgear.com/kb_web_files/n101306.asp

Reading these instructions, it seems to me that 5100b is a wanabe router,
and that it seems to have all the functionality that you actually need. 
You can configure it by accessing it from your computer as if it were a 
web page at IP address 192.168.0.1 This is very standard behavior for a
consumer oriented router box. I can't guarentee that it will work, but I
would be very surprised if it didn't. 

The instructions that I'm reading concern turning off PPPoE, and really 
concern how to live with two 'routers' that both want to be addressed 
as 192.168.0.1 

Your bigger issue is getting your ISP to actually turn on service. Don't
get too tangled up in config issues until you have determined that they
have started service. To do that, borrow a Windoze laptop and try to 
connect to internet. If they don't get you connected that way, they
surely won't get you connected with Linux. 

> external devices, but this "router" is actually built into the DSL modem
> case, making for a different sort of connection to the NIC.  I think it
> is the standard SBC (phone company) choice for DSL modems in order to
> make their automated Windows installer more trouble-free.
>   So, no LAN.
> 

I think you may be able to have a LAN, if you want. Once you get things
working with you 5100b and one computer, you get a 'hub' and install it
between the 5100b and your first computer.


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Re: usb flash drive fails on front ports

2004-09-25 Thread David Purton
On Sat, Sep 25, 2004 at 05:57:01PM -0400, Jerome R. Acks wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 25, 2004 at 11:35:35PM +0930, David Purton wrote:
> > Does anyone have an idea why a usb pen drive would be detected and work
> > fine using the usb ports on the back of my shuttle xpc SB62G2, but is
> > not even detected as plugged in when using the front ports?
> > 
> > Googling suggests that this might be due to some front usb ports not
> > delivering enough power to the drive.
> > 
> > Are there any other software problems that might cause this or must I
> > just live with it?
> 
> I had a similar problem with USB devices about a year ago. Some device
> would be recognized if plugged into a front port and not recognized
> if plugged into a rear port.
> 
> What I conluded was the 2.4.20 through 2.4.25 kernels I was using did
> not completely support my motherboard, which has an nVidia nForce2
> chipset and USB controller, since switching to a 2.6 kernel fixed the
> problem. I am currently using a Debian kernel-image-2.6.5-1-k7. I've
> also tried 2.6.7-1-k7 and 2.6.8-1-k7 but have had some problems with
> them. 
> 
> If you have fairly new hardware, your current kernel drivers may not
> completely support it.
> 

mmm could be. This is a fairly new machine running woody with a 2.4.26
kernel.

When sarge goes stable, I'll probably upgrade to a 2.6 kernel and see if
that helps things.

Thanks.

dc


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Re: Newbie first-time install advice: Highpoint Rocket 133SB

2004-09-25 Thread David Witbrodt

Stefan O'Rear wrote:
> 
> > > Looking in the 2.6 tree, there are drivers supporting the Highpoint 343,
> > > 345, 366, 370, 370A, and 372.
> >
> >   Now that is helpful information!  (May I ask how and where you found
> > this, so I will bother other folks less in the future?  The sooner I can
> > become self-sufficient, the sooner I can start helping other newbies on
> > this list! ;)
> >   According to the manual for the Rocket 133SB in the retail box, the
> > Windows drivers are called HPT302.  The source code tarball provided by
> > Highpoint is called
> >
> >   hpt302-opensource-v1.2.tgz
> 
> I suspect the (34x,3[67]x) drivers will work backwards-compatibly.

  That's a very good idea!  I'll email the folks at Highpoint and see
what they say!

 
> >   You make this sound pretty bad.  I wonder if the HILUX CD is as bad as
> > this.  It's a lot smaller, and has a lot of updated (backported)
> > packages for a minimal installation, which can then be finished by
> > downloading anything else desired.
> Probably not.
> 
> The debian woody packages are dated, but still quite good.  The HILUX
> people have probably substituted something else (like Red Hat's anaconda
> or the Sarge installer, both of which can be made to work with woody)
> for boot-floppies.

  We'll see how it goes, then.  I'm scrambling as fast as I can to
finish the backup so that I can get to work on it.
  I would still like to know how you looked up the info on which drivers
were supported.  Is that info from the net, or from your system?  Which
kernel does it refer to?


Thanks again for your assistance,
Dave W.


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Re: Newbie first-time install advice: Highpoint Rocket 133SB

2004-09-25 Thread Stefan O'Rear
On Sat, Sep 25, 2004 at 10:57:23PM -0400, David Witbrodt wrote:
> > >   You make this sound pretty bad.  I wonder if the HILUX CD is as bad as
> > > this.  It's a lot smaller, and has a lot of updated (backported)
> > > packages for a minimal installation, which can then be finished by
> > > downloading anything else desired.
> > Probably not.
> > 
> > The debian woody packages are dated, but still quite good.  The HILUX
> > people have probably substituted something else (like Red Hat's anaconda
> > or the Sarge installer, both of which can be made to work with woody)
> > for boot-floppies.
> 
>   We'll see how it goes, then.  I'm scrambling as fast as I can to
> finish the backup so that I can get to work on it.
>   I would still like to know how you looked up the info on which drivers
> were supported.  Is that info from the net, or from your system?  Which
> kernel does it refer to?

It refers to kernel 2.6.0 beta 5.

I downloaded it, extracted it in ~/linux-2.6.0, and:

~ %% cd linux-2.6.0/
~/linux-2.6.0 %% grep -lri Highpoint .
} one minute and 41 seconds later (my system is slow)...
./drivers/ide/pci/hpt34x.c
./drivers/ide/pci/hpt366.c
./drivers/ide/pci/hpt366.h
~/linux-2.6.0 %% 

Looking in drivers/ide/pci/hpt34x.c, I find this:
static char *chipset_names[] = {"HPT343", "HPT345"};
and:
MODULE_DESCRIPTION("PCI driver module for Highpoint 34x IDE");

In drivers/ide/pci/hpt366.c:
char *chipset_nums[] = {"366", "366",  "368",
"370", "370A", "372",
"302", "371",  "374" };
^
Looks like HPT302 support.

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Re: Newbie first-time install advice: Highpoint Rocket 133SB

2004-09-25 Thread David Witbrodt

Paul E Condon wrote:
> 
> I just Googled '5100b modem' and found:
> http://kbserver.netgear.com/kb_web_files/n101306.asp
> 
> Reading these instructions, it seems to me that 5100b is a wanabe router,
> and that it seems to have all the functionality that you actually need.
> You can configure it by accessing it from your computer as if it were a
> web page at IP address 192.168.0.1 This is very standard behavior for a
> consumer oriented router box. I can't guarentee that it will work, but I
> would be very surprised if it didn't.

  Yes, when I received my DSL package from SBC in early August I did a
bunch of researching myself.  I found the manufacturer's website, which
had some useful info.  Even more useful was the FAQs and forums at
dslreports.com.  There I found explanations about how this modem works,
including how it is different from previous DSL modems.  Its onboard
"router" is supposed to make it more convenient to use in general,
especially when first setting up.  I went to the IP address you referred
to and copied all of the important info down, so that I would have it
without having to look it up again later.

 
> The instructions that I'm reading concern turning off PPPoE, and really
> concern how to live with two 'routers' that both want to be addressed
> as 192.168.0.1
> 
> Your bigger issue is getting your ISP to actually turn on service. Don't
> get too tangled up in config issues until you have determined that they
> have started service. To do that, borrow a Windoze laptop and try to
> connect to internet. If they don't get you connected that way, they
> surely won't get you connected with Linux.

  At the moment, I'm still running the old WinME dinosaur.  The SBC
installation CD worked, but only after I turned the modem off and back
on!  (Somehow ME was not detecting that the modem was even attached to
the NIC until I did that.  I sent an email to SBC suggesting that they
mention this as a troubleshooting tip, since I blew nearly an hour
trying to figure out why all of the lights were good but the installer
program still couldn't see it!)
  At any rate, my DSL account been activated and running very nicely for
about 2 months.  Thanks for the tips, though.
  Right now, I am most concerned about the Debian installer being able
to figure out how to use the thing.  If the installer can't figure it
out itself, then I will have to come back here pestering people to find
out what part of my configuration to change.  I printed out a forum
thread from somewhere in which some experienced user explained how to
get it working.  He fell short of providing details about what commands
to run, so as a newbie I'm still a little bit in the dark about what
commands to run and what configuration files to edit if I have trouble. 
For now all I can do is hope I don't have too much trouble, but I'm
already in big trouble over the original subject of this thread: 
getting a device driver for my (unusual) hard drive controller!

 
> I think you may be able to have a LAN, if you want. Once you get things
> working with you 5100b and one computer, you get a 'hub' and install it
> between the 5100b and your first computer.

  For now, I don't have the need (or the physical room) for a LAN
setup.  I had to move the computer into a small bedroom near a phone
jack for the DSL connection.  The room is 8' x 10', and has 1500 - 2000
books -- my personal library... the ones that fit inside the house, that
is!  The desk and printer stand are maxed out, and I can't fit any more
equipment in here even if I wanted to!
  I do have printouts on how to reconfigure my modem if I ever want to
use a real router, though.  But thanks for trying to help, anyway!  (You
wouldn't happen to know anyone who uses a Highpoint Rocket 133SB IDE
controller with their big [>137 GB] HD, would you?  I need to talk to
someone like that REALLY bad!!)


Thanks,
Dave W.


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Re: Advice needed to speed up very slow machine

2004-09-25 Thread Jacob S
On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 21:45:10 -0500
Don Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I am seeking the advice of some of you who may have been down this
> path before.  Situation: I am working on an older 166 MHz Pentium-S
> machine with 96 MB RAM, two 2.5GB hard drives, for a neighbor (rather
> poor) here in the Arkansas Ozarks.  She will be using it mainly for
> Email, web surfing, and possibly a few games.  She is somewhat used to
> Win98 and Outlook Express, but since I keep getting phone calls from
> her every time W hiccups, I decided to rebuild this older computer for
> her and put Debian GNU/Linux Sarge on it, figuring it might be less
> work for me in "service calls" ;-)
> 
> I have installed sarge with kernel 2.4.26 on it -- no problem. 
> Actually, everything works fine on it, with KDE and Kmail and
> Mozilla-Firefox as my choices (since that's what I'm using myself). 
> The problem is that with only a 166 MHz processor speed and the
> limited 96MB of RAM, the machine is agonizingly sloow!  (I'm
> spoiled by my own new 2.8GHz P4 with 1GB RAM)  For example, it takes
> about 4-1/2 minutes for cold boot up to the KDE desktop.  I almost
> fall asleep every time I wait for Kmail to come up, and the same for
> the address book.  Once Kmail is up and running, it's response is
> satisfactory.
> 
> I feel she needs to have a GUI interface for her email, etc. since
> that is what she is used to.  She is not very computer literate and I
> need to make it as easy as possible for her to operate (she's had some
> brain damage from an accident some years ago).
> 
> Anyone have any suggestions of what I could do to improve speed within
> the constraints I have mentioned?  (Yes, I know that command line
> email program would do wonders, but she needs the GUI.)  I don't
> really need all the fancy stuff that the KDE desktop provides.  I
> might mention that Win98se with Outlook Express is quite fast
> (relative to sarge/kde/kmail) on this same machine.
> 
> Thanks for any suggestion you might make...

Hello,

That's not quite as bad as a 133Mhz laptop w/16MB of ram. :-)

For serious suggestions, I would start by using IceWM instead of KDE.
The interface looks a lot like Win95 or 98 (assuming you use the right
theme) and it's much lighter on the bloatware scale than KDE. 

You might find Thunderbird to be a better e-mail match, since you
already have Firefox on her machine. Even better would be Sylpheed (or
Sylpheed-claws), which is a very fast, lightweight alternative that has
a similar look and feel to Outlook. (Not the close relative to Firefox
any more, but still a great mailer.)

For games, well there's always stuff like circuslinux, 'apt-cache search
tetris', etc. Plenty of card games and such, too.

And, of course, even though you use a different window manager it
doesn't mean you can't run kde or gnome programs. They'll still work
fine, provided you have the necessary libraries and dependencies
installed (apt-get will take care of that, no sweat).

HTH,
Jacob


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Re: A Little Confused

2004-09-25 Thread Marc Wilson
On Fri, Sep 24, 2004 at 01:36:07PM -0400, John Lowell wrote:
> A little confused by the Debian login process when using a window 
> manager like fluxbox.

The window manager doesn't have anything to do with it.  The display
manager you install does.

> In the past, I've always started the X window system after a console
> login and startx after having first written an ~/.xinitrc.

Meaning that either you've never used a display manager, or you've used
only Linux distributions that start X only in certain run-levels, like
RedHat derivatives.  Debian doesn't do things that way.  The assumption is
that if you installed a display manager, you expect to want to use it on
the local display.

> I was a little surprized after the Debian installation and the addition
> of X window system and fluxbox to find myself automatically at a
> graphical login screen.

As it should be.  You installed the x-window-system meta-package, it brings
in xdm, xdm starts automatically.

> I assume that xdm is somehow run as a last step of the init process.

No, xdm is run by its init script, namely /etc/init.d/xdm, which is part of
run-level 2 as /etc/rc2.d/S99xdm.  In its default configuration, it will
start up X on vt 7.  This is, of course, configurable.

> I've searched and searched the man pages on the various related scripts,
> Xsession, the xdm scripts and the like and can't find the file that
> generates the login screen.

In other words, you haven't bothered to search at all and figured that
you'd just get someone else here to do your thinking for you.  That's fine,
no one was born knowing how X works, but don't bother claiming to have done
things you haven't.  Xdm is remarkably well-documented.  All of its related
files can be found in /etc/X11/xdm, just like the documentation says.

> I'd very much like to improve upon that awful looking gray hash-marked
> background - something I've done previously via alias lines in ~/.bashrc

Pretty much completely unlikely.  Any alias you might be creating in bash
wouldn't have any effect on what X might be doing.  You could, of course,
do whatever you liked in ~/.xinitrc or ~/.xsession, which is probably what
you're actually thinking of.

> - but, assuming that xdm generates the login somehow, can't find the file
> that initiates xdm to fix that either. I'm lost. Might someone step in at
> this point to help?

Xdm's configuration is controlled by /etc/X11/xdm/xdm-config, everything
you would want to know is in that file or pointed to by that file.  If you
want to control the root pixmap during login, place the appropriate
command(s) in /etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup, also as documented.

If you don't want X to start automatically, then remove the display
manager.

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Re: Newbie first-time install advice: Highpoint Rocket 133SB

2004-09-25 Thread David Witbrodt


Stefan O'Rear wrote:
> 
> On Sat, Sep 25, 2004 at 10:57:23PM -0400, David Witbrodt wrote:
> >   I would still like to know how you looked up the info on which drivers
> > were supported.  Is that info from the net, or from your system?  Which
> > kernel does it refer to?
> 
> It refers to kernel 2.6.0 beta 5.
> 
> I downloaded it, extracted it in ~/linux-2.6.0, and:
> 
> ~ %% cd linux-2.6.0/
> ~/linux-2.6.0 %% grep -lri Highpoint .
> } one minute and 41 seconds later (my system is slow)...
> ./drivers/ide/pci/hpt34x.c
> ./drivers/ide/pci/hpt366.c
> ./drivers/ide/pci/hpt366.h
> ~/linux-2.6.0 %%
> 
> Looking in drivers/ide/pci/hpt34x.c, I find this:
> static char *chipset_names[] = {"HPT343", "HPT345"};
> and:
> MODULE_DESCRIPTION("PCI driver module for Highpoint 34x IDE");
> 
> In drivers/ide/pci/hpt366.c:
> char *chipset_nums[] = {"366", "366",  "368",
> "370", "370A", "372",
> "302", "371",  "374" };
> ^
> Looks like HPT302 support.

  Beautiful!!
  It looks same way to me, even though I am a newbie! ;-)
  I sent a message to Highpoint asking about it.  This info is quite
specific, and I can ask them directly whether the HPT366 driver is
backward compatible with HPT302 and will run the controller.  If so,
that is going to save me a bunch of trouble.  (Someday I'll be able to
actually DO the things I was worried I would have to do!)
  If it is the kernels in the 3.6.x series that I need, then I may have
to use the Sarge netinst CD.  The HILUX CD seems to have only 2.4.24,
and the Woody CDs are farther behind than that.  I wonder if it is
possible, if the Sarge netinst CD gives me problems, to get an updated
kernel from backports.org and use it with one of these CD sets?  I see
that kernels 2.6.6 and 2.6.7 are available there, but at this point
doing anything like that is probably way over my head


Thanks for everything,
Dave Witbrodt


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Re: Which Package Includes HTB Queue , IMQ Devices ??

2004-09-25 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 22 Sep 2004, Nayyar Ahmed wrote:
> I want to install HTB,IMQ , I am worried about

The debian kernel and iproute packages in unstable have HTB support.
IMQ support you will have to patch in on both, and compile them.

IMQ is not safe.

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Re: Advice needed to speed up very slow machine

2004-09-25 Thread Carl Fink
Second Jacob's recommendation to swap icewm in for KDE.  I disagree with him
that you can still run KDE apps -- it'll work, but you end up loading all
the QT and KDE libraries, meaning swapping ... meaning slowness.

If you're going to use GNOME products like Firefox, don't mix them with KDE
products.  You end up needing BOTH sets of libraries, meaning INCREDIBLE
amounts of swapping.

I'd recommend trying Epiphany vs. Firefox.  Most of the features, and
lighter.  I have little experience with graphical mailers because mutt does
everything I need and it's lightning-fast.

The standard advice to speed up slow computers is "don't run anything at all
you can avoid".  Check top or ps, see what's running, and decide if your
neighbor can do without it.  For instance, you can probably skip running
Exim, installed by default in many configurations.  Similarly, Samba is
probably not needed.  I would check "dpkg --get-selections | grep -v
deinstal" to find what packages are installed and remove the ones not
actually wanted.

I assume you have swap partitions on both hard disks?  And both hard disks
on different IDE buses?  With limited RAM some swapping is going to be
inevitable, and this will give you the fastest swapping possible.

You might put dillo on there and advise your friend to use it whenever she
(?) doesn't need advanced web features. It's incredibly fast and small, and
if it works for the site in question it'll be hard to beat.
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Re: Newbie first-time install advice: Highpoint Rocket 133SB

2004-09-25 Thread Paul E Condon
On Sat, Sep 25, 2004 at 11:25:36PM -0400, David Witbrodt wrote:
> 
> Paul E Condon wrote:
> > 
> > I just Googled '5100b modem' and found:
> > http://kbserver.netgear.com/kb_web_files/n101306.asp
> > 
> > Reading these instructions, it seems to me that 5100b is a wanabe router,
> > and that it seems to have all the functionality that you actually need.
> > You can configure it by accessing it from your computer as if it were a
> > web page at IP address 192.168.0.1 This is very standard behavior for a
> > consumer oriented router box. I can't guarentee that it will work, but I
> > would be very surprised if it didn't.
> 
>   Yes, when I received my DSL package from SBC in early August I did a
> bunch of researching myself.  I found the manufacturer's website, which
> had some useful info.  Even more useful was the FAQs and forums at
> dslreports.com.  There I found explanations about how this modem works,
> including how it is different from previous DSL modems.  Its onboard
> "router" is supposed to make it more convenient to use in general,
> especially when first setting up.  I went to the IP address you referred
> to and copied all of the important info down, so that I would have it
> without having to look it up again later.
> 
>  
> > The instructions that I'm reading concern turning off PPPoE, and really
> > concern how to live with two 'routers' that both want to be addressed
> > as 192.168.0.1
> > 
> > Your bigger issue is getting your ISP to actually turn on service. Don't
> > get too tangled up in config issues until you have determined that they
> > have started service. To do that, borrow a Windoze laptop and try to
> > connect to internet. If they don't get you connected that way, they
> > surely won't get you connected with Linux.
> 
>   At the moment, I'm still running the old WinME dinosaur.  The SBC
> installation CD worked, but only after I turned the modem off and back
> on!  (Somehow ME was not detecting that the modem was even attached to
> the NIC until I did that.  I sent an email to SBC suggesting that they
> mention this as a troubleshooting tip, since I blew nearly an hour
> trying to figure out why all of the lights were good but the installer
> program still couldn't see it!)
>   At any rate, my DSL account been activated and running very nicely for
> about 2 months.  Thanks for the tips, though.
>   Right now, I am most concerned about the Debian installer being able
> to figure out how to use the thing.  If the installer can't figure it
> out itself, then I will have to come back here pestering people to find
> out what part of my configuration to change.  I printed out a forum
> thread from somewhere in which some experienced user explained how to
> get it working.  He fell short of providing details about what commands
> to run, so as a newbie I'm still a little bit in the dark about what
> commands to run and what configuration files to edit if I have trouble. 
> For now all I can do is hope I don't have too much trouble, but I'm
> already in big trouble over the original subject of this thread: 
> getting a device driver for my (unusual) hard drive controller!
> 
>  
> > I think you may be able to have a LAN, if you want. Once you get things
> > working with you 5100b and one computer, you get a 'hub' and install it
> > between the 5100b and your first computer.
> 
>   For now, I don't have the need (or the physical room) for a LAN
> setup.  I had to move the computer into a small bedroom near a phone
> jack for the DSL connection.  The room is 8' x 10', and has 1500 - 2000
> books -- my personal library... the ones that fit inside the house, that
> is!  The desk and printer stand are maxed out, and I can't fit any more
> equipment in here even if I wanted to!
>   I do have printouts on how to reconfigure my modem if I ever want to
> use a real router, though.  But thanks for trying to help, anyway!  (You
> wouldn't happen to know anyone who uses a Highpoint Rocket 133SB IDE
> controller with their big [>137 GB] HD, would you?  I need to talk to
> someone like that REALLY bad!!)
> 

I joined this thread late. Now I have a better idea of what you need.
You want to preserve Windows on the old smaller drive. To do this remove the
old drive while you work at gettind Debian up and running on new drive.
Pretend everything is going to work, it probably will. Don't worry about
special drivers. Maybe the special drivers are already in place. 

Connect you big new drive as 'master'. Your old small drive was
'master', but you have removed it. Your computer won't boot without a
'master' drive even if it is empty. 

Use the Sarge net-install CD. You should be able to boot from it, since
boot from CD does not access HD.

Read intro carefully. There is an 'expert' mode. You are not an expert
but you should know that it is there. If you ask for help, you may be
told the answer to give to a question that you have no recollection of
ever having seen.  This is because the person giving help

Re: Advice needed to speed up very slow machine

2004-09-25 Thread Silvan

> decided to rebuild this older computer for her and put Debian GNU/Linux
> Sarge on it, figuring it might be less work for me in "service calls" ;-)

It'll probably work too.  My boss's daughter has only called me twice in 
monnths.  Both times because something went wrong (probably user error), 
and she had to fsck the disks manually.  In all this time, that's *it*.  
Hooyah, that beats the hell out of supporting Windows, let me tell ya.

I have no useful suggestions improving speed though.  I was stuck on a 233 MHz 
box for awhile, and I kept all my resource hogging KDE goodness anyway.  I 
really like KDE, and I didn't want to change the way I did things just 
because it was a slow box.  I lived with the speed, which sucked, rather than 
try to find some lightweight alternative.  I'm just that much of a KDE fanboy 
I guess.

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Re: partition second hard drive

2004-09-25 Thread Ritesh Raj Sarraf
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On Sat, 25 Sep 2004, Douglas G. Pollard Sr. wrote:
This is the output from/sbin/lsmod. Sorry it took so long to get back. had a
configuration problem with kmail.
Module  Size  Used byNot tainted
input   3040   0 (autoclean)
apm 8492   1 (autoclean)
appletalk  18852  12 (autoclean)
parport_pc 19400   1 (autoclean)
lp  5952   0
parport21736   1 [parport_pc lp]
af_packet  11560   1 (autoclean)
emu10k1-gp  1256   0 (unused)
gameport1388   0 [emu10k1-gp]
usb-uhci   19632   0 (unused)
usbcore52908   1 [usb-uhci]
emu10k150956   2
ac97_codec 11412   0 [emu10k1]
sound  50280   0 [emu10k1]
soundcore   3268   7 [emu10k1 sound]
ide-scsi8464   0
scsi_mod   85412   1 [ide-scsi]
natsemi14112   1
crc32   2848   0 [natsemi]
agpgart39396   0 (unused)
ide-cd 27968   1
cdrom  25056   0 [ide-cd]
rtc 6280   0 (autoclean)
ext3   66600   1 (autoclean)
jbd35076   1 (autoclean) [ext3]
ide-detect   288   0 (autoclean) (unused)
via82cxxx   9416   1 (autoclean)
ide-disk   12544   2 (autoclean)
ide-core   93980   3 (autoclean) [ide-scsi ide-cd ide-detect
via82cxxx ide-disk]
unix   13260 136 (autoclean)
Below is the out in part fromdmesg. I figured this was all you needed if you
need it all I will send.
Doug
Freeing unused kernel memory: 92k freed
NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0/SMP for Linux NET4.0.
Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 7.00beta4-2.4
ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx
ide: late registration of driver.
VP_IDE: IDE controller at PCI slot 00:07.1
VP_IDE: chipset revision 6
VP_IDE: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx
VP_IDE: VIA vt82c596a (rev 05) IDE UDMA33 controller on pci00:07.1
   ide0: BM-DMA at 0xffa0-0xffa7, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:DMA
   ide1: BM-DMA at 0xffa8-0xffaf, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:pio
hda: Maxtor 6E040L0, ATA DISK drive
hdb: Maxtor 88400D8, ATA DISK drive
blk: queue ca8263e0, I/O limit 4095Mb (mask 0x)
blk: queue ca82651c, I/O limit 4095Mb (mask 0x)
hdc: LITE-ON CD-RW SOHR-5238S, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
hdd: SAMSUNG SCR-2432, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
hda: attached ide-disk driver.
hda: 80293248 sectors (41110 MB) w/2048KiB Cache, CHS=79656/16/63, UDMA(33)
hdb: attached ide-disk driver.
hdb: 16408224 sectors (8401 MB) w/256KiB Cache, CHS=16278/16/63, UDMA(33)
Partition check:
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0: [PTBL] [4998/255/63] p1 p2 < p5 >
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target1/lun0: [PTBL] [1021/255/63] p1
Journalled Block Device driver loaded
kjournald starting.  Commit interval 5 seconds
EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.
kjournald starting.  Commit interval 5 seconds
EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.
Adding Swap: 497972k swap-space (priority -1)
EXT3 FS 2.4-0.9.19, 19 August 2002 on ide0(3,1), internal journal
Real Time Clock Driver v1.10f
hdc: attached ide-cdrom driver.

Since you mention that you want to format the disk, I should assume that
there's nothing critical in it.
Formating the disk and re-using it with Debian is simple.
Boot into single user-mode
fdisk /dev/hdb
Create the partitions. Setup your /etc/fstab file.
That's all you'll need to do.
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Re: samba versus nfs

2004-09-25 Thread Luis Fernando Llana Díaz
El Viernes, 24 de Septiembre de 2004 14:23, Stephen Tait escribió:
> At 12:58 24/09/2004, you wrote:
> >Hello,
> >
> >If I have a file server that has a samba server installed and is accessed by
> >both linux and WinXP machines do I really need NFS installed and running?
> >My understanding is that samba is more secure than NFS and since one can
> >mount a samba server from a linux machine via mntsamba I am wondering if there
> >is any reason to use NFS?  Any thoughts?
> >

If you are working in an untrusted network you can make a ssh tunnel to
mount remote nfs exported directories.

Luis.

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Re: Lesstif over VNC a problem?

2004-09-25 Thread David Fokkema
On Fri, Sep 24, 2004 at 06:05:22PM +0100, Thomas Adam wrote:
>  --- David Fokkema <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> > box. Unfortunately, I can't read boxes, certainly not when they all look
> > the same.
> 
> This is a locale issue.
> 
> > I further tried to tunnel from my server to my laptop (at home) running
> > sid, but xmgrace still shows me boxes and it depends on lesstif2.
> 
> Nothing to do with Lesstif. Does it work if you type:

Then why do other programs (gnumeric, ooffice, etc.) work?

> LANG=C xmgrace &

Unfortunately, no, :-(

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locale working at commandline, not under X

2004-09-25 Thread Stephan Kulka
Hi all

If I am in X I get the following outout for locale:

locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or 
directory
locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory
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LC_CTYPE="de_DE.UTF-8"
LC_NUMERIC="de_DE.UTF-8"
LC_TIME="de_DE.UTF-8"
LC_COLLATE="de_DE.UTF-8"
LC_MONETARY="de_DE.UTF-8"
LC_MESSAGES="de_DE.UTF-8"
LC_PAPER="de_DE.UTF-8"
LC_NAME="de_DE.UTF-8"
LC_ADDRESS="de_DE.UTF-8"
LC_TELEPHONE="de_DE.UTF-8"
LC_MEASUREMENT="de_DE.UTF-8"
LC_IDENTIFICATION="de_DE.UTF-8"
LC_ALL=de_DE.UTF-8


However at the commandline : [EMAIL PROTECTED] fÃor all types of locales

Which means all the special signs including the Euro sign are working properly

X  is started via à xdm and my .xsessio looks liek that:

#  language-env DON'T MODIFY THIS LINE!
# set LANG
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export LANG
#  language-env end DON'T MODIFY THIS LINE!

/usr/bin/xfce-mcs-manager
/usr/bin/xfwm4 --daemon
/usr/bin/xftaskbar4 &
/usr/bin/xfdesktop &
exec /usr/bin/xfce4-panel

Here my /etc/environment: 

export [EMAIL PROTECTED]
export [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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### BEGIN DEBCONF SECTION FOR localeconf
# Do not edit within this region if you want your changes to be 
preserved
# by debconf.  Instead, make changes before the "### BEGIN DEBCONF 
SECTION
# FOR localeconf" line, and/or after the "### END DEBCONF SECTION FOR
# localeconf" line.
### END DEBCONF SECTION FOR localeconf

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Where is the error


TIA

Stephan


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Re: Japanese characters in firefox

2004-09-25 Thread Clemens Schwaighofer
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On 09/25/2004 04:02 AM, ScruLoose wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm trying to get Firefox set up so it'll display Japanese pages 
> properly, but I don't seem to be having any luck.
> 
> I'm using Firefox 0.9.3 in Sarge.
> 
> Whenever I view a page with Japanese characters in it, they get 
> represented as a box with a four-character alphanumeric (hex?) code in 
> it.  Here's a screencap:
> http://shorty.ca/logs/yahoojp.png

you need to install the wadalab TTF fonts:

ttf-kochi-gothic
ttf-kochi-mincho

thats it, after that you can view japanese characters in any application
(mozilla, firefox, thunderbird, Openoffice, etc)

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Re: 2.6.8-3 kernel freezes on Inspiron 8100 at isapnp

2004-09-25 Thread Joost Witteveen
Andrea Vettorello wrote:
On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 21:51:09 +0800, Uwe Dippel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 

(today I'm kind of unlucky with the daily update, it seems: Thunderbird
broke, XMMS broke and now:)
After the update from 2.6.8-2 (??), but 2.6.8 in any case 2.6.8; the
kernel freezes at isapnp. I tried three times (Power-Off); and then booted
to 2.6.3; the install-kernel; without any problem.
I wonder if I'm the only one and should file a bug-report ?
   

I've experienced a freeze plugging/unplugging my usb printer with 2.6.8-2...
 

There is actually a bug in 2.6.8.1 that causes an OOPS when I switch 
off  my USB printer
in 2.6.8.1 -- a bug that apparently already was there in 2.6.5 (or before).

Here's the patch that worked for me (and now apparently has been applied 
by Greg KH to
the kernel):

Below is the email with the patch in it:
Vojtech:
This bug was reported back in July, and I sent out a patch but apparently 
it never got to you.  The usblp driver was calling usb_buffer_free() from 
usblp_cleanup(), which runs after disconnect() if a user process holds the 
device open.  But once the usb_device is gone usb_buffer_free() will 
oops.  The patch frees the buffers in usb_disconnect() instead.

Recently Joost Witteveen reported the same oops and found that the
patch solved it for him.  So there shouldn't be problems with accepting 
it.

Alan Stern

Signed-off-by: Alan Stern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
= drivers/usb/class/usblp.c 1.108 vs edited =
--- 1.108/drivers/usb/class/usblp.c 2004-09-09 05:24:11 -04:00
+++ edited/drivers/usb/class/usblp.c2004-09-20 14:33:03 -04:00
@@ -397,10 +397,6 @@
{
info("usblp%d: removed", usblp->minor);
-   usb_buffer_free (usblp->dev, USBLP_BUF_SIZE,
-   usblp->writebuf, usblp->writeurb->transfer_dma);
-   usb_buffer_free (usblp->dev, USBLP_BUF_SIZE,
-   usblp->readbuf, usblp->readurb->transfer_dma);
kfree (usblp->device_id_string);
kfree (usblp->statusbuf);
usb_free_urb(usblp->writeurb);
@@ -1159,6 +1155,10 @@
usb_set_intfdata (intf, NULL);
usblp_unlink_urbs(usblp);
+   usb_buffer_free (usblp->dev, USBLP_BUF_SIZE,
+   usblp->writebuf, usblp->writeurb->transfer_dma);
+   usb_buffer_free (usblp->dev, USBLP_BUF_SIZE,
+   usblp->readbuf, usblp->readurb->transfer_dma);
if (!usblp->used)
usblp_cleanup (usblp);


Andrea
 


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Re: Via CLE266 Graphics

2004-09-25 Thread Tim Kelley
On Thursday 23 September 2004 07:02, David Dorward wrote:
> Andrea Vettorello wrote:

> Adding that didn't work. I'll try a new kernel and then build the DRM
> module this evening.

If you just want to get a working X, forget about drm and agpgart, just try to 
get X working.


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Re: A Little Confused

2004-09-25 Thread Stephen Patterson
On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 00:20:09 +0200, s. keeling wrote:
> Otherwise, dump *dm and hack your style file:
> 
>   ~/.fluxbox/styles/TDF:
> 
> rootCommand: /usr/bin/feh --bg-center /home/keeling/grf/omega_nebula.jpg

Or you could use ~/.fluxbox/init which overrides all style files,
anyhow the simplest way of prettifying xdm is to install one of the
others, such as wdm.


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SOLVED: Re: Lesstif over VNC a problem?

2004-09-25 Thread David Fokkema
On Fri, Sep 24, 2004 at 12:03:38PM +0200, David Fokkema wrote:
> Hi group,
> 
> Needing a quick but decent plotting program while at work, I used VNC to
> tunnel back home (server running woody). Problem: xmgrace wouldn't show
> me any menus or dialogs at all. That is, every letter was replaced by a
> box. Unfortunately, I can't read boxes, certainly not when they all look
> the same.


Thanks to Joost Witteveen (he gave me an account on his machine where
everything worked as it should) I figured out the problem. It turns out
to be a server problem. VNC server 4 (from backports.org) fixes the
problem and it all works flawlessly again! It's just a shame that it
didn't work when I tried to show off to a fellow colleague the power of
grace as opposed to excel, ;-)

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Need help XFree86

2004-09-25 Thread Russ Cook
I have a problem trying to get XFree86 4.X to work on my Compaq Presario 
5170.
XFree86 3.X works fine.  When this machine was running windows, the 
video adapter
was identified as 3D Rage LT Pro.  Under Linux, I use the ATI Mach64 
driver under
XFree86 3.X, so I tried the ATI driver under XFree86 4.X.  I get a black 
screen, it
never faults back to text terminal from GDM.  I have attached gzipped 
copies of
my config files, and the error log.

I'm hoping that someone else reading this has already solved this 
problem for this
machine, as there are many of them out there.

Thanks in advance for any help/suggestions.
Regards,
  Russ


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Re: A Little Confused

2004-09-25 Thread Bill Marcum
On Fri, Sep 24, 2004 at 03:05:11PM -0700, Sergio Basurto wrote:
> On the inittab you must change your init runlevel, try
> with a value of 3 if you are on SuSE or 2 if you are
> under Debian
> 
Wrong.  Changing the runlevel won't do anything in Debian, unless you
create a custom runlevel by changing the links in /etc/rc?.d

> > I'd very much like 
> > to improve upon that awful looking gray hash-marked
> > background - 

You can change that by editing /etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup and
/etc/X11/xdm/Xresources.  I have mine showing xplanet in the
background.


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BRAZIL

2004-09-25 Thread JAIME GIMENEZ JR



 
 
 
  
I´m brazilian and I need your help to understand a
  
english word:
  
What means this word."nasally-insertable"
 
  It´s usual find this words...
 
   "But what we need to 
know is, do people 
   want 
nasally-insertable computers"
 
  I understand all words but I can´t get the target of 
words...
  
nasally-insertable
 
  Thank you in advance!
 
  
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SJ Campos SP Brasil
 
  
Visite meu site:  www.jgimenez.fot.br 






Re: Hello

2004-09-25 Thread voetbalstats03
Het gekozen emailadres is niet meer in gebruik. U kunt op de site het mailform op de 
contact pagina gebruiken.


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Debian Installer fails w/3Com 3C905C-TX NIC

2004-09-25 Thread Michael Satterwhite
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Last week I tried to use the Debian Installer to bring up Sarge on a Dell 
Dimension. The installer fails to recognize the network card, and nothing in 
the installer documentation indicates how to correct this manually (the card 
is well supported in Linux). As it is impossible to complete the install if 
it doesn't have network access, I aborted the install and reported the 
problem via Bugzilla. I received several requests for more information which 
I answered promptly. The last communication I received was that the card is 
supported by the installer. The reality, of course, is that unless it is 
either (a) recognized by the installer or (b) there is a documented procedure 
to correct this manually when it's not recognized, the support is nothing but 
an unfulfilled theory. No one from the installer project has commented beyond 
this point.

The reason for the above paragraph is to give the reason for this post. I'd 
really like to bring up Debian on my desktop. To do that, I'm going to have 
to get the NIC up in the installer. The knowledge on this mailing list is 
encyclopedic; Would one of you be so kind as to let me know how to get 
through the installer when it doesn't recognize my NIC. I *REALLY* don't want 
to destroy a working system unless I know I'm going to be able to complete 
the installation.
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Re: free.fr et 6 MBit Downstream ?

2004-09-25 Thread daniel huhardeaux
Michelle Konzack a écrit :
[...]
J'ai une carte "Jack Telephon Card" et un ligne analogique 
et il y a pa un problem, MAIS, si je suis etrangere et me 
conecte sur mon "asterisk" pour appele quelqun en allemagne 
ou ne porte qoui, la traffic se doulee... es ça marche non 
plus avec 128 kBit.
 

J'ai installe des clients en 320/80 SIP + codec G711: ca passe.
Je emande les developeur de "asterisk" it ils me dit, pour 
le bon founfionement de asterisk je besoin 256 kBit, si je 
ne acheter pas les licence por la haute-compression (voir 
la page home de "asterisk"). Bon, 10 US$ par ligne sont pas 
chere, mais j'ai pas un carte VISA ni des Cheque pour payer. 
 

Le probleme de la licence est une chose. Mais si ton GW VoIP->PSTN 
n'accepte pas le codec g729 elle ne sert a rien.

En suit, je veux changer la configuration sur deux AVM A1
pour qutre lignes, parce que j'ai eu System de Telephonie 
Elmeg C46xe (XI721) Numeris avec 6 canaux B  :-)
 

T'es en numeris? Moi je parlai analogique. Dans tous les cas de figure 
vaut mieux avoir un upload le plus important possible, c'est sur. Mais 
il ne faut pas penser que ce soit necessaire. J'ai eu des conversations 
avec des personnes qui passaient par le RTC + modem 36k. Le minimum 
necessaire est 28k Mais j'avoue n'avoir jamais essaye ;-)

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Re: Debian Installer fails w/3Com 3C905C-TX NIC

2004-09-25 Thread Wim De Smet
Hi,
On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 08:53:19 -0500, Michael Satterwhite
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Last week I tried to use the Debian Installer to bring up Sarge on a Dell
> Dimension. The installer fails to recognize the network card, and nothing in
> the installer documentation indicates how to correct this manually (the card
> is well supported in Linux). As it is impossible to complete the install if
> it doesn't have network access, I aborted the install and reported the
> problem via Bugzilla. I received several requests for more information which
> I answered promptly. The last communication I received was that the card is
> supported by the installer. The reality, of course, is that unless it is
> either (a) recognized by the installer or (b) there is a documented procedure
> to correct this manually when it's not recognized, the support is nothing but
> an unfulfilled theory. No one from the installer project has commented beyond
> this point.

I have read a couple of questions on this mailing list from people who
ended up finding out they had downloaded a much older build than the
current one. You could try to find a newer build. Oh and the largest
one. But in the other case...

> The reason for the above paragraph is to give the reason for this post. I'd
> really like to bring up Debian on my desktop. To do that, I'm going to have
> to get the NIC up in the installer. The knowledge on this mailing list is
> encyclopedic; Would one of you be so kind as to let me know how to get
> through the installer when it doesn't recognize my NIC. I *REALLY* don't want
> to destroy a working system unless I know I'm going to be able to complete
> the installation.

I haven't used the new installer myself but I think you can basically
switch to a console, open a shell and insmod the module yourself. If
the module gives errors, post them here.

greets,
Wim


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usb flash drive fails on front ports

2004-09-25 Thread David Purton
Does anyone have an idea why a usb pen drive would be detected and work
fine using the usb ports on the back of my shuttle xpc SB62G2, but is
not even detected as plugged in when using the front ports?

Googling suggests that this might be due to some front usb ports not
delivering enough power to the drive.

Are there any other software problems that might cause this or must I
just live with it?


cheers

dc

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Re: Does Unstable become Testing?

2004-09-25 Thread John Fleming
> Except the thing testing is symlinked to is no longer sarge but etch,
> which is a cloned copy of sarge which points to the exact same packages.
>
> I think I get it.  The real entities are woody, sarge, etch, sid;
> unstable/testing/stable/oldstable are just convenient shortcuts.

So will there be some warning preceding the release such that those of us
sitting on the fence will have a last minute chance to decide whether we
want our sources.list to point to "sarge" or to "testing"?  - John



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Re: Debian Installer fails w/3Com 3C905C-TX NIC

2004-09-25 Thread Michael Satterwhite
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On Saturday 25 September 2004 08:58, Wim De Smet wrote:
> I have read a couple of questions on this mailing list from people who
> ended up finding out they had downloaded a much older build than the
> current one. You could try to find a newer build. Oh and the largest
> one. But in the other case...

I wish it were that simple - but I downloaded the Installer immediately before 
doing the install. I guess I could try one of the test versions: that's 
legitimate. Heck, I'd be willing to do that just to help the team. They 
really are doing a good job.

>
> > The reason for the above paragraph is to give the reason for this post.
> > I'd really like to bring up Debian on my desktop. To do that, I'm going
> > to have to get the NIC up in the installer. The knowledge on this mailing
> > list is encyclopedic; Would one of you be so kind as to let me know how
> > to get through the installer when it doesn't recognize my NIC. I *REALLY*
> > don't want to destroy a working system unless I know I'm going to be able
> > to complete the installation.
>
> I haven't used the new installer myself but I think you can basically
> switch to a console, open a shell and insmod the module yourself. If
> the module gives errors, post them here.

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Re: Debian Installer fails w/3Com 3C905C-TX NIC

2004-09-25 Thread Cheryl Homiak
I  have had the same problem with my 3com card though my installer may not 
be up-to-date as I am blind and there have been issues with access 
methods. However, this has puzzled me for a long time. I can install with 
fedora core, Gentoo, Knoppix and i believe Slackware and have my ethernet 
card automatically recognized, so not at all meaning to be negative, but I 
have wondered why this should be an issue with debian alone. My card is a 
3c509, which is by no means a new or rare card as far as I know.

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Re: Debian Installer fails w/3Com 3C905C-TX NIC

2004-09-25 Thread Jacob S
On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 09:20:09 -0500
Michael Satterwhite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Saturday 25 September 2004 08:58, Wim De Smet wrote:
> > I have read a couple of questions on this mailing list from people
> > who ended up finding out they had downloaded a much older build than
> > the current one. You could try to find a newer build. Oh and the
> > largest one. But in the other case...
> 
> I wish it were that simple - but I downloaded the Installer
> immediately before doing the install. I guess I could try one of the
> test versions: that's legitimate. Heck, I'd be willing to do that just
> to help the team. They really are doing a good job.

Yes; don't get RC1 of the Debian-Installer. Try one of the daily builds.
I've used a couple of them now with good results - one on a x86 and
another on a Sparc. Both worked great, despite the 'under development'
label.

> > > The reason for the above paragraph is to give the reason for this
> > > post. I'd really like to bring up Debian on my desktop. To do
> > > that, I'm going to have to get the NIC up in the installer. The
> > > knowledge on this mailing list is encyclopedic; Would one of you
> > > be so kind as to let me know how to get through the installer when
> > > it doesn't recognize my NIC. I *REALLY* don't want to destroy a
> > > working system unless I know I'm going to be able to complete the
> > > installation.
> >
> > I haven't used the new installer myself but I think you can
> > basically switch to a console, open a shell and insmod the module
> > yourself. If the module gives errors, post them here.

You might also try entering 'expert' or 'expert26' at the boot prompt,
so it will show you more of the steps involved. (Expert boots a 2.4
kernel, expert26 boots a 2.6 kernel.)

HTH,
Jacob


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partition second hard drive

2004-09-25 Thread dougpol1
Hello all, 
I had a dual boot system with Windows and Linux 
installed. Bought a new cd writer and found out I had to 
upgrade win 98 to SE to use new software for writer. SE 
costs more than the writer did. Nuts to microsoft.  
Took Windows out and installed Debian Sarge with 
the new installer. I really am happy with it. 
My question is How do I reformat my second hard 
drive that is presently Fat 32 windows so that Linux can 
use it for backup. I tried cfdisk but linux cannot see the 
drive. I have a Maxtor cd for the drive, which is Maxtor, 
but there is no Linux formating available on it. I sent 
them an e-mail asking why not.  
Thanks in advance for any help. 
Doug 
  


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Re: partition second hard drive

2004-09-25 Thread Stefan O'Rear
On Sat, Sep 25, 2004 at 12:01:01PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hello all, 
>   I had a dual boot system with Windows and Linux 
> installed. Bought a new cd writer and found out I had to 
> upgrade win 98 to SE to use new software for writer. SE 
> costs more than the writer did. Nuts to microsoft.  
>   Took Windows out and installed Debian Sarge with 
> the new installer. I really am happy with it. 
>   My question is How do I reformat my second hard 
> drive that is presently Fat 32 windows so that Linux can 
> use it for backup. I tried cfdisk but linux cannot see the 
> drive. I have a Maxtor cd for the drive, which is Maxtor, 
> but there is no Linux formating available on it. I sent 
> them an e-mail asking why not.  
>   Thanks in advance for any help. 
>   Doug

Linux can use fat32.  If cfdisk cannot see the disk, it is because Linux
can't.  Do you have the right modules loaded for your second disk?

Open a terminal and type /sbin/lsmod to see what modules are loaded.

What kind of disk is it?

What does the 'dmesg' command say?  Please include all output.

Excerpts from mine:

> SIS5513: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 01
> SIS5513: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
> ide0: BM-DMA at 0xffa0-0xffa7, BIOS settings: hda:pio, hdb:pio
> ide1: BM-DMA at 0xffa8-0xffaf, BIOS settings: hdc:pio, hdd:pio

> hda: IBM-DJNA-371350, ATA DISK drive
> hdb: WDC AC14300R, ATA DISK drive
> hdc: Hewlett-Packard CD-Writer Plus 8100, ATAPI CDROM drive

> ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
> ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
> hda: IBM-DJNA-371350, 12949MB w/1966kB Cache, CHS=1650/255/63
> hdb: WDC AC14300R, 4112MB w/512kB Cache, CHS=524/255/63
> hdc: ATAPI 24X CD-ROM CD-R/RW drive, 1024kB Cache

> Partition check:
>  hda: hda1 hda2 hda3 < hda5 hda6 hda7 hda8 >
>  hdb: hdb1 hdb2

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Re: Help with rsyncd...?

2004-09-25 Thread Alan Chandler
On Thursday 23 September 2004 16:49, Stephen Tait wrote:
> At 16:03 23/09/2004, you wrote:
> >I've been trying to set up some method of using rsync, which will
> >eventually be deployed to copy company data from one office to the other
> >(it's a one way job, so I don't need unison) and have so far had no luck
...
> Yarg, scratch that. I didn't realise it was possible to do rsyncing without
> a server running (I found this out after I got the server running, damned
> typo in my conf file), got it all running over keyed SSH now - sorry for
> the nonsense message!

Nevertheless, you can easily run an rsync daemon.  Debian sets it up 
automatically for you - you just have to change the RSYNC_ENABLE tag 
in /etc/default/rsync

You also need an /etc/rsyncd.conf file, but these are exceptionally easy to 
create - here is mine - as you can see to provide remote access to backup 
areas. (Note also the unsafe uid change is access to the [roo] backup areas)

I have even set it up as a service on windows 2000 using cygwin - so I can 
access this machine for backup.

# $Log: rsyncd.conf,v $
# Revision 1.4  2002/09/27 22:17:50  alan
# Reverting to 1.2
#   27 Jul  2004AKC Added piglet and eeyore backup areas
#


syslog facility = daemon
uid = backup
gid = backup
hosts allow = 192.168.0.0/24
hosts deny = 0.0.0.0/0
timeout = 600
read only = false


[rabbit]

path = /bak/rabbit
comment = work computer (rabbit) backup area

[pooh]

path = /bak/pooh
comment = pooh backup area

[piglet]

path = /bak/piglet
comment = piglet backup area

[eeyore]

path = /bak/eeyore
comment = eeyore backup area

[archive]

path = /bak/archive
comment = backup of kangers archive

[roo]

path = /bak/roo
comment = roo backup area
uid = root



-- 
Alan Chandler
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First they ignore you, then they laugh at you,
 then they fight you, then you win. --Gandhi


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