Re: How to dist-upgrade?

[Brian Nelson]

On Thu, Aug 12, 2004 at 10:30:32AM +0600, askar wrote:
> Hello!
> 
> I want to upgrade from Woody to Sarge.
> As I understand the necessary commands are:
> 1) apt-get update
> 2) apt-get upgrade
> 3) apt-get dist-upgrade

I strongly recommend using aptitude or dselect or some other apt
frontend instead.

> But do I have to change my sources.list?
> Is changing "stable" into "testing" enough?

Yes, but I strongly recommend changing it to "sarge" rather than
"testing".

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Problem with exim / syncmail

[Jerome Lacoste]

I am trying to do the following:

I have a domain name (coffeebreaks.org), and a server serving pages for
that domain (coffeebreak). I've set up several tools on the machine,
including syncmail, for CVS commit messages.

Exim has been configured to send my email to my ISP, and I've changed
the following:


smarthost:
driver = domainlist
transport = remote_smtp 
route_list = *   byname

#lookuphost:
#  driver = lookuphost
#  transport = remote_smtp


Now I have 2 problems:

- my local email is being sent to my SMTP server. This is probably a
problem with hostname config. I can live with that for now, but would be
happy if that could be fixed as well. 

Some info
> dnsdomainname 
coffeebreaks.org
> hostname
coffeebreak

Some relevant bits of the exim config:

# this should perhaps be coffeebreak.coffeebreaks.org?
qualify_domain = coffeebreaks.org 
# this should probably be localhost:coffeebreak.localnet
local_domains = localhost:CoffeeBreak
# 
host_lookup = *



- syncmail emails are refused due to non existing originating domain:
 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
SMTP error from remote mailer after MAIL
FROM:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> SIZE=2570:
host  [xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx]: 553 5.1.8
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... Domain of sender address
[EMAIL PROTECTED] does not exist


But mail works from the command line:

Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[...]

Received: from coffeebreak.coffeebreaks.org (.xx.x.xx
[xx]) by mailxx.xxx.xx (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id
i7BLGKjD004259; Wed, 11 Aug 2004 23:16:21 +0200 (CEST)
Received: from jerome by coffeebreak.coffeebreaks.org with local (Exim
3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1Bv0SK-0005r1-00; Wed, 11 Aug 2004 23:16:20 +0200
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: test sending email with exim


Note: the headers for the accepted mail I don't see ,
but another server, probably the one that takes care of handling the
mail, being after .

Another solution which I haven't tried would be to mess with /etc/mail-
addresses but I would really like to fix it cleanly.

Any idea to help me solve the problem would be greatly appreciated.

Jerome


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Re: VMware and QEMU (was Re: Internet Explorer 6 on Debian Unstable)

[Johann Spies]

On Wed, Aug 11, 2004 at 10:15:25PM -0500, Kirk Strauser wrote:
> On Wednesday 11 August 2004 07:31 pm, Gregory Pierce wrote:
> 
> > you can emulate the whole Windows XP (or any other brand of WIndows)
> > environment with a proprietary package called VMware. 
> 
> My new favorite toy is QEMU, which is a system emulator built around a CPU 
> emulator ala Bochs, except that it's actually fast enough to be usable.
> 
> How good is it?  I installed Windows XP in a QEMU virtual machine today at 
> work, and tomorrow I plan to install SP2 on it.  For me, it's good enough 
> that I expect to be wiping the drives on the little computer that I currently 
> keep around solely to run Quickbooks Pro.

Gregory,

Could you get the network connection working from Windows XP?  I have also
installed XP on qemu but I had no success in getting the network
working.

Regards
Johann
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Re: VMware and QEMU (was Re: Internet Explorer 6 on Debian Unstable)

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On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 22:15:25 -0500, Kirk Strauser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wednesday 11 August 2004 07:31 pm, Gregory Pierce wrote:
> 
> > you can emulate the whole Windows XP (or any other brand of WIndows)
> > environment with a proprietary package called VMware.
> 
> My new favorite toy is QEMU, which is a system emulator built around a CPU
> emulator ala Bochs, except that it's actually fast enough to be usable.
> 
> How good is it?  I installed Windows XP in a QEMU virtual machine today at
> work, and tomorrow I plan to install SP2 on it.  For me, it's good enough
> that I expect to be wiping the drives on the little computer that I currently
> keep around solely to run Quickbooks Pro.
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> Kirk Strauser
> 
> 
> 


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Re: Send equal reply to messages in mailbox folder

[Ionel Mugurel Ciobica]

On 12-08-2004, at 08h 51'05", Jacob Friis Larsen wrote about "Send equal reply to 
messages in mailbox folder"
> I have several messages in a mailbox folder who I would like to send the 
> same reply. Can that be done easily?
> 
> Thanks,
> Jacob
> 

Yes, see here a (t)csh command:

===
#!/bin/tcsh
foreach address (`grep '^From ' mailbox | awk '{print $2}'`)
  cat message.txt | mutt -s 'Re: your mail' $address
end
===

And a (ba)sh command:

===
#!/bin/bash
for address in `grep '^From ' mailbox | awk '{print $2}'`
do
   cat message.txt | mutt -s 'Re: your mail' $address
done
===


cat message.txt can be replaced by echo "text in here" if just a line.
or you can use:
 mutt -s 'subject' -a message.txt $address

Of course other solutions are possible, you can use mail instead of
mutt, etc.

If the same address is more than once and you don't want to send
multiple messages to the same person, use:

`grep '^From ' mailbox | awk '{print $2}' | uniq`

or even better:

`grep '^From ' mailbox | awk '{print $2}' | sort | uniq`



Ionel


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Re: Internet Explorer 6 on Debian Unstable

[cep welly]

Gregory Pierce wrote:
Mike,
I don't know if this has already been suggested, but you can emulate the
whole Windows XP (or any other brand of WIndows) environment with a
proprietary package called VMware.  Unfortunately, it does a cost a
small sum, ~$200.  I actually bought it recently thinking that it would
be fun to emulate a Windows XP box set up in its default state (naked to
the world) and watch the viruses and worms wiggle their way in. I never
got around to doing this but I thought it would be a fun and secure way
to learn about Windows vulnerabilities. I can't tell you how well it
works, as I have yet to install it. There may well be other Debian users
out there who have used it and may be able to tell you how well it
works.
Greg
 

yes, it is...If you don't want to spend your cash VMWare provide an 
evaluation copy
for 30 days.


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Re: Send equal reply to messages in mailbox folder

[Ionel Mugurel Ciobica]

On 12-08-2004, at 10h 49'27", Ionel Mugurel Ciobica wrote about "Re: Send equal reply 
to messages in mailbox folder"
> On 12-08-2004, at 08h 51'05", Jacob Friis Larsen wrote about "Send equal reply to 
> messages in mailbox folder"
> > I have several messages in a mailbox folder who I would like to send the 
> > same reply. Can that be done easily?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Jacob
> > 
> 
> Yes, see here a (t)csh command:
> 
> ===
> #!/bin/tcsh
> foreach address (`grep '^From ' mailbox | awk '{print $2}'`)
>   cat message.txt | mutt -s 'Re: your mail' $address
> end
> ===
> 

I just noticed that you use Mozilla under windows. Well, my litle
scripts will not help you there :-(
And netscape/mozilla adds an odd From_ line, where the e-mail address
is replaced by a - (minus). You could make a grep after 'From: ' but
this is strange because some people use names, some don't. Some uses
8bits characters which get changed to some other stuff, etc. I don't
know any easy way... You could try to use Return-Path, or Sender, or
Reply-To, but none of those are mandatory, so you may not find it.


Ionel


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Re: debian on floppy disks

[Karsten M. Self]

on Mon, Aug 09, 2004 at 05:56:34PM +0930, charlie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Hello my name is Charlie and i recently bought a DIGITAL Brand laptop
> from ebay. it has Windows 98 on it. It doesnt possess a cd rom drive and
> i was interested if i could purchase/download a version of your linux on
> Floppy disks. thank you for your time.

Your best bet is likely a chroot install from a floppy distro.  Tom's
Root Boot (aka tomsrtbt) is a floppy-based Linux distribution I've used
for this many times in the past.

You can _probably_ get debootstrap to work, with some effort, though
I've not done this myself starting from tomsrtbt.

My preferred method involves doing a base installation with the
base2_2.tgz image file, though this is no longer (host site is down)
last I checked a couple of weeks ago.

For general instructions, see:

http://twiki.iwethey.org/Main/DebianChrootInstall

...describing a Debian chroot install.  There is a modified set of
instructions in the standard Debian installation manual.

In your case, you'll want your laptop, a floppy, and some means of
networking to another system.  Tomsrtbt doesn't support PCMCIA (IIRC),
but you _can_ get some standard NICs, as well as SLIP and PLIP (good for
about 40 Kbps) running.  Slow, but serviceable point-to-point
connections over null serial or parallel cables.


Alternatively, many laptops will accept an external CD drive.  You might
look into buying or borrowing one for your system.


Peace.

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Re: How to dist-upgrade?

[Clement]

Brian Nelson wrote:
On Thu, Aug 12, 2004 at 10:30:32AM +0600, askar wrote:
 

Hello!
I want to upgrade from Woody to Sarge.
As I understand the necessary commands are:
1) apt-get update
2) apt-get upgrade
3) apt-get dist-upgrade
   

I strongly recommend using aptitude or dselect or some other apt
frontend instead.
 

But do I have to change my sources.list?
Is changing "stable" into "testing" enough?
   

<>
Yes, but I strongly recommend changing it to "sarge" rather than
"testing".
So what should be the sequence:
1.  apt-get update
2.  apt-get upgrade
3.  change 'woody' to 'sarge'
4.  apt-get update
5.  atp-get dist-upgrade
or just
1.  change 'woody' to 'sarge'
2.  apt-get update
3.  apt-get upgrade
4.  atp-get dist-upgrade
Regards,
Clement

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Re: Send equal reply to messages in mailbox folder

[Jacob Friis Larsen]

I just noticed that you use Mozilla under windows. Well, my litle
scripts will not help you there :-(
And netscape/mozilla adds an odd From_ line, where the e-mail address
is replaced by a - (minus). You could make a grep after 'From: ' but
this is strange because some people use names, some don't. Some uses
8bits characters which get changed to some other stuff, etc. I don't
know any easy way... You could try to use Return-Path, or Sender, or
Reply-To, but none of those are mandatory, so you may not find it.
Mails are stored on a Linux box. And I have a Debian desktop. Would that 
help?

Thanks,
Jacob
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Re: Send equal reply to messages in mailbox folder

[Ionel Mugurel Ciobica]

On 12-08-2004, at 11h 55'53", Jacob Friis Larsen wrote about "Re: Send equal reply to 
messages in mailbox folder"
> 
> Mails are stored on a Linux box. And I have a Debian desktop. Would that 
> help?
> 

Try to run the 


grep '^From ' mailbox | awk '{print $2}' | sort | uniq


if you only see - (minus) then is no help. If you see all kind of
e-mail addresses, then you are on business, you can use any of the
scripts, just save it in a file (e.g. script), make chmod +x file 
end execute the file (e.g. ./script). Or just copy and paste the
commands to the terminal (echo $SHELL will tell you is you use (ba)sh
or (t)csh).


Ionel


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Re: componentized linux and "sarge"

[John Summerfield]

Simon Kitching wrote:
On Thu, 2004-08-12 at 17:46, Ritesh Raj Sarraf wrote:
 

Hello all,
was just reading about componentized linux, Progeny etc.
Found the idea of comoponentization excellent. I just got
amamzed/confused with the following statemnt from Progenty.
"Progeny Debian 2.0, A componentized linux distribution is based
and closely related to Debian Sarge".
	So, I'm happy with sarge. Is sarge componentized ??
   

As I understand it, Progeny are building some "meta-packages" (aka
"components") which reference carefully selected groups of standard
debian packages.
The idea (I think) is that you choose the appropriate Progeny
meta-package and get a set of normal debian packages installed which
Progeny has selected for quality and tested as a group.
I imagine they'll offer things like a "mailserver" metapackage, a
"firewall" metapackage, etc.
Anyway, that's how I understand it. The description of "componentized
linux" on the progeny site is rather abstract and difficult to
understand. An interview I saw with Ian Murdock wasn't much easier to
understand either :-) I do quite like the concept (assuming I've
understood it right). You can get the same effect with normal Debian,
but only if you know things like which individual packages you need to
achieve your task, which of them is the best quality, which have the
best security patch response period, and which ones integrate well
together. Not that easy to figure out sometimes..
 


It's a _developers_ package. There's a three-CD (includes source) beta 
you can download and play with.

It uses Red Hat's Anaconda, a GUI/TUI/Automatic installer, the latest 
version same installer I used to use to install a desktop configuration  
(KDE and GNOME) of Red Hat Linux on arbitrary Pentium III 733-class 
hardware in under 15 minutes off a LAN.

I've done one Progeny install with it; the major problem us that it 
didn't detect and configure my PS/2 mouse.

Almost all of the packages are standard Sarge; progeny has changed some 
of the apt packages.

All the software you need to roll your own distro, including CD 
creation, can be downloaded from the Progeny website.

Anaconda has been around for some years, and is one of the better Linux 
installers. It's always been GPL, and so other vendors such as Point 
Clark Networks (ClarkConnect) have based their distros on RHL and 
adapted Anaconda to their porposes.

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How do I use the apache2 documentation?

[Johann Spies]

I have installed apache2 on sarge and have the following problems to
read the documentation:

Doing a "w3m localhost" after the installation brings me to the
default index.html page with a link:

More documentation on Apache can be found on:

  * The Apache documentation stored on your server.

When I select this link, the following happens:
==
Not Found

The requested URL /doc/apache/ was not found on this server.

---

Apache/2.0.49 (Debian GNU/Linux) mod_perl/1.99_14 Perl/v5.8.4
PHP/4.3.4 mod_ruby/1.2.0 Ruby/1.8.2
(2004-07-16) Server at localhost Port 80
=

So then I went to /var/www/apache2-default and found an index.html
there and again select the link referring to the documentation with
the same result.  

I then did a "dpgk -L apache2-doc" and saw the manual was in
/usr/share/doc/apache2-doc/manual.  I then, from
/var/www/apache2-default did "ln -sv
/usr/share/doc/apache2-doc/manual .",  tried again and then got 


URI: index.html.de Content-Language: de Content-type: text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1 URI:
index.html.en Content-Language: en Content-type: text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1 URI:
index.html.ja.jis Content-Language: ja Content-type: text/html;charset=ISO-2022-JP URI:
index.html.ko.euc-kr Content-Language: ko Content-type: text/html;charset=EUC-KR URI:
index.html.ru.koi8-r Content-Language: ru Content-type: text/html;charset=KOI8-R


There is an "install.html" in /usr/share/doc/apache2-doc/manual which,
when I load it, gives the same output just replacing "index" with
"install".  

So I is this supposed to work?  I suspect some xml-stuff is needed,
but what?

Regards
Johann
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Re: Send equal reply to messages in mailbox folder

[Jacob Friis Larsen]

Try to run the 
grep '^From ' mailbox | awk '{print $2}' | sort | uniq
If I do:
grep '^Return-Path: ' mailbox | awk '{print $2}' | sort | uniq
I get E-Mail adressess like this:


...
How can I remove the "<" and ">"?
Would it be possible to also get the subject?
$ echo $SHELL
/bin/bash
Thanks for your help :)
Jacob
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Problems with mouse responsiveness

[bdee002]

I have a PS/2 optical mouse with  3 buttons  the  3rd also being the 
roller-wheel. It is currently configured as below:

/dev/psaux
imps/2
Disabled: Enable 3 button mouse
Disabled: Enable scroll events from mouse wheel
The mouse works in all respects, except that it is non-responsive when 
the mouse is moved slowly. If I move the mouse across my deck slowly 
there is no response, once I start to increase the speed the cursor 
moves  as you would except. I have played around with the sensitivity 
etc with no solution.

As you can Imagen, when doing delicate work with a mouse like this, it 
would drive anyone MAD!

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Re: Problems with mouse responsiveness

[Thomas Adam]

On Thu, Aug 12, 2004 at 11:20:48PM -1200, bdee002 wrote:
> As you can Imagen, when doing delicate work with a mouse like this, it 
> would drive anyone MAD!

'man xset' - this is probably your best bet.

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Re: Problems with mouse responsiveness

[Wim De Smet]

On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 23:20:48 -1200, bdee002 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a PS/2 optical mouse with  3 buttons  the  3rd also being the
> roller-wheel. It is currently configured as below:
> 
> /dev/psaux
> imps/2
> Disabled: Enable 3 button mouse
> Disabled: Enable scroll events from mouse wheel
> 
> The mouse works in all respects, except that it is non-responsive when
> the mouse is moved slowly. If I move the mouse across my deck slowly
> there is no response, once I start to increase the speed the cursor
> moves  as you would except. I have played around with the sensitivity
> etc with no solution.
> 
> As you can Imagen, when doing delicate work with a mouse like this, it
> would drive anyone MAD!
> 

I had some problems with a low quality mouse that wasn't performing
exactly well. Strangely enough it worked much smoother with a 2.6
kernel. Maybe it has better sampling or something. Anyway you could
try that...

greets,
Wim


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Re: Problems with mouse responsiveness

[John Summerfield]

bdee002 wrote:
I have a PS/2 optical mouse with  3 buttons  the  3rd also being the 
roller-wheel. It is currently configured as below:

/dev/psaux
imps/2
Disabled: Enable 3 button mouse
Disabled: Enable scroll events from mouse wheel
The mouse works in all respects, except that it is non-responsive when 
the mouse is moved slowly. If I move the mouse across my deck slowly 
there is no response, once I start to increase the speed the cursor 
moves  as you would except. I have played around with the sensitivity 
etc with no solution.

As you can Imagen, when doing delicate work with a mouse like this, it 
would drive anyone MAD!

Missing info:
I presume that's from your GPM config. Unless you're using GPM (I'm not) 
that is irrelevant.
What version of Debian?
What brand and model mouse?

What X config?
I'm using a Logitech optical USB mouse on Sarge and have no problem.  
Here is the relevant config:
Section "InputDevice"
   Identifier  "Generic Mouse"
   Driver  "mouse"
   Option  "SendCoreEvents""true"
   Option  "Device""/dev/input/mice"
   Option  "Protocol"  "ImPS/2"
   Option  "Buttons"   "5"
#   Option  "Emulate3Buttons"   "true"
   Option  "ZAxisMapping"  "4 5"
EndSection

Some brands are likely to require a different protocol.
This is from my Progeny box:
Section "InputDevice"
# If the normal CorePointer mouse is not a USB mouse then
# this input device can be used in AlwaysCore mode to let you
# also use USB mice at the same time.
   Identifier  "DevInputMice"
   Driver  "mouse"
   Option  "Protocol" "IMPS/2"
   Option  "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
   Option  "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
   Option  "Emulate3Buttons" "no"
EndSection
It works with my IBM USB keyboard with a PS/2 mouse plugged into it:-) 
Progeny created this setup with no USB mouse installed.


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Re: Gphoto2 -- Sony DSC F707V Driver?

[Kenneth Jacker]

  ahuxley> Does the version of the gphoto libraries support this
  ahuxley> camera? Verify this.

Yes.

  ahuxley> And if you use 'gphoto -P -R' directly instead of gtkam,
  ahuxley> what error message do you get?

Gobs, but see below ...

  ahuxley> Also try the above command as root; does that work?

Yes!  So obviously (once you walked me through a solution) a
"permissions problem".  I'll follow the URLs you provided ...


All of my USB usage under 'sarge' is shaky at best ... so before going
much further, I'm going to study various USB docs.

Thanks, Alexis, for your *very* pointed, informed, specific, and
helpful advice!

Gotta Love the Debian community support ...

  -Kenneth


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Re: installing ndiswrapper module for 2.6.7-1-686

[Jesse Rosenthal]

Brian Samek wrote:

> It appears that I must rebuild my kernel.  However, before I do this, I'd
> like to know if there are any other options.
> 1. What is the 2.6.7-1-686 header files package for?
> 2. Is there a way I can get the source for the 2.6.7-1-686?
> 3. Is there a way to compile ndiswrapper for my current kernel despite not
> having access to the source?
> 
> Thanks

I had the same problem. I saw a couple of references online which seemed to
indicate that the headers file (i.e. kernel-headers-2.6.7-1-686) *should*
be enough to build the module, but I never had any luck. Perhaps my
symlinks weren't quite right? In any case, I finally gave up and used
kernel-package to roll a new kernel and modules_image.

So there probably should be a way to avoid rebuilding. But in my case at
least, it ended up taking a good deal less time to just rebuild than to
figure out what that way might be. (You could probably just copy the
config-2.6.7-1-686 from /boot and do an oldconfig if you don't feel like
changing anything.)

Best,
Jesse


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Re: Send equal reply to messages in mailbox folder

[Ionel Mugurel Ciobica]

On 12-08-2004, at 13h 04'53", Jacob Friis Larsen wrote about "Re: Send equal reply to 
messages in mailbox folder"
> >Try to run the 
> >grep '^From ' mailbox | awk '{print $2}' | sort | uniq
> 
> If I do:
> grep '^Return-Path: ' mailbox | awk '{print $2}' | sort | uniq
> 
> I get E-Mail adressess like this:
> 
> 
> ...
> 
> How can I remove the "<" and ">"?

grep '^Return-Path: ' mailbox | awk '{print $2}' | sort | uniq | sed 's///'

But you will miss few messages. Do this to check:

grep -c '^From ' mailbox
grep -c '^Return-Path: ' mailbox

The first one will tell you how many messages you have, and the second
how many of them contains the Return-Path: header.

Are there so many that you can't just do it one a the time?
Use the for loop and instead of the `expression` copy and paste the
addresses. I would do that if it is no more than few tens of messages.

> Would it be possible to also get the subject?

Of course, but not in the same go with this rudimentar script :-)

You could do grep -e '^Return-Path: ' -e '^Subject: ' mailbox
but then you can't do the for loop, since the addresses and the
subject is one after eachother...

You will need to use perl or something, which I don't know. For me it
will be easier to write a small program in fortran just to recover (if
any) the headers: From, From:, Subject:, etc. 
> 
> $ echo $SHELL
> /bin/bash
> 
> Thanks for your help :)
> Jacob


You are welcome.

Ionel


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which Sarge ISO I should download?

[Mingzhai Sun]

Dear all,

 I'd like to install Sarge, but I found in the FTP serve, there are 13 ISO's.
Which one should I download, I think I should not download all of them.

thanks in advance
Ming


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Re: which Sarge ISO I should download?

[Florian Ernst]

Hello!

On Thu, Aug 12, 2004 at 08:21:51AM -0500, Mingzhai Sun wrote:
>  I'd like to install Sarge, but I found in the FTP serve, there are 13 ISO's.
> Which one should I download, I think I should not download all of them.

Please see "Which of the numerous CD images should I download? Do I
need all of them?" in the Frequently Asked Questions about Debian CDs
at .

HTH,
Flo


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Re: Installing a new version of XFree86

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Em Thu, 12 Aug 2004 03:50:04 +0200, H. A. Sujith Shastry escreveu:

> How do upgrade XFree86 (and related packaged) without
> breaking (or upgrading) other packages?

You can run a mixed distro as per the apt how-to; or a backport.


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Re: Squatted harddisk

[Thomas Adam]

On Thu, Aug 12, 2004 at 06:02:07AM -0700, James Vahn wrote:
> "du" for the old school text mode.

"Old school"? Text Mode? Oh, please!

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Can not boot

[Endianto]

Dear List,

My new Woody box can't boot with this error message,

--
VFS: Cannot open root device "301" or 03:01
Please append a correct "root=" boot option
Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 03:01
--

As a friend suggestion, I boot from CDROM, using CD live Knoppix, then put
"root=/dev/hda1".
Nothings change.

Any advice will be appreciated

Endianto
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Re: VMware and QEMU (was Re: Internet Explorer 6 on Debian Unstable)

[Kirk Strauser]

On Thursday 12 August 2004 02:14, Johann Spies wrote:

> Gregory,

(Kirk, actually)

> Could you get the network connection working from Windows XP?  I have
> also installed XP on qemu but I had no success in getting the network
> working.

Yep.  It wasn't mentioned in the docs, but if you want to use TUN/TAP 
networking, then you have to activate NAT on the host computer.

Steps I took (as root) to make it work:

  1) Added a line in /etc/sudoers (using visudo) to allow me to 
execute /etc/qemu-ifup as root: 

kirkALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: /etc/qemu-ifup

  2) Loaded the tun module:

modprobe tun

  3) Gave myself access to /dev/net/tun:

chown kirk /dev/net/tun

  4) Turned on forwarding:

echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward

  5) As me, ran qemu.  Note that I have perms for /dev/hdb8; it's a 
partition I configured just for this experiment:

qemu -hda /dev/hdb8 -localtime -m 192

  6) Turned on NAT:

   iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE

You might be able to swap steps 5 and 6, but I'm not sure whether it's 
necessary to have tun0 configged before starting NAT.  I just got this 
working late yesterday afternoon and haven't had time to refine it yet.  :)
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Re: Debian GnuCash packages orphaned

[Paul Galbraith]

John Summerfield wrote:
As for the money, I learned to write financial applications in COBOL. 
Whoops, it's extremely rusty.
mony PIC S9(11v3) COMP-3.
and in PL/1
money fixed dec(11,3).
:-O   QUICK!  Let me get you a wheelchair. :-D
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Re: Internet Explorer 6 on Debian Unstable

[Mike Ward]

Thanks for al the suggestions everyone, I'll play with it a bit.

Also, for the record, I'm not trying this because I'm designing for IE
or because I want to browse in IE, but because I know that 95% of the
people that log into our site use IE, and it'd be stupid and neglegent
to not test at all in IE. Even on windows I use FireFox exclusively.

I mean, come on. Like I said, this feels like a mortal sin or something ;)


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Re: migrating to udev

[John L Fjellstad]

Geoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>   I am particular interested to know if it is possible to have udev
> and devfs packages both installed, and try our udevfs, but come back
> to devfs if something breaks.

What I did for awhile, before I got comfortable with udev, was to change
udev_root (in /etc/udev/udev.conf) to point to /udev instead of /dev.
That way, I could run both in parallell until I was certain udev did
everything I needed.  

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Re: 3ware woes

[Stephen Tait]

At 22:05 11/08/2004 -0400, you wrote:
On Wed, 2004-08-11 at 14:06, Stephen Tait wrote:
> At long last, we've finally got a RAID card for the office file server!
>
> It's a lovely 3ware 9000 series with 8 SATA ports, and looks very lovely
> indeed. But I can't get it working for the life of me.
>
[...]
Well, 3ware 9XXX isn't in the mainline Kernel as of yet. 3ware just got
bought by a company and since the new stuff came out since the drivers
have not been as "lovely" as possible, as compared to how nice the
previous 3ware kernel module did.
Yeah, I eventually figured that out my lots of googling and comparing the 
sources.


Soon. You can get the drivers from them. INstall a "base system" on a
PATA disk (used) and then compile and reboot with the new drivers...
The problem is I don't have  abas system to install onto, unless I recycle 
the current system. I'm guessing all I need to do is copy the files over to 
the RAID1 partitions, chroot and install a LILO boot block...?


Then you can chroot install on the Card and then install the same kernel
and then install grub. From there, it is just a matter of getting it to
work.
Which is a bit of a shame, since I'd really like to start with the new 
sarge release. But I figured the only way I could do that would be to 
create my own custom kernel and boot media... which might be interesting...

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Re: Internet Explorer 6 on Debian Unstable

[matt zagrabelny]

On Wed, 2004-08-11 at 19:31, Gregory Pierce wrote:
> Mike,
> 
> I don't know if this has already been suggested, but you can emulate the
> whole Windows XP (or any other brand of WIndows) environment with a
> proprietary package called VMware.  Unfortunately, it does a cost a
> small sum, ~$200.  I actually bought it recently thinking that it would
> be fun to emulate a Windows XP box set up in its default state (naked to
> the world) and watch the viruses and worms wiggle their way in. I never
> got around to doing this but I thought it would be a fun and secure way
> to learn about Windows vulnerabilities. I can't tell you how well it
> works, as I have yet to install it. There may well be other Debian users
> out there who have used it and may be able to tell you how well it
> works.

i believe bochs would work as an alternative to vmware that is Free.

-matt


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Re: Problem with exim / syncmail

[Jerome Lacoste]

On Thu, 2004-08-12 at 09:30 +0200, Jerome Lacoste wrote:
> I am trying to do the following:
> 
> I have a domain name (coffeebreaks.org), and a server serving pages for
> that domain (coffeebreak). I've set up several tools on the machine,
> including syncmail, for CVS commit messages.
> 
> Exim has been configured to send my email to my ISP, and I've changed
> the following:

I've fixed the problem by:
- changing my hostname
- modifying my hosts file
- migrating to exim4 and starting from a fresh configuration.

I've got another problem now, wee in forthcoming email.

Thanks,

J




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never arriving mails with exim4. Where to look for them?

[Jerome Lacoste]

I have finaly managed to set up my exim4 install on my server, it works
almost OK.

But some emails are never arriving to their destination!

I have a script that sends emails to 3 persons when I commit some code
to CVS on the machine. 

The 2 other persons receive the emails, but I don't receive them.
I don't understand why because they seem to be treated the same by
exim4. Here are the logs for the exim server

2004-08-12 14:49:17 1BvF1B-BC-BI <= [EMAIL PROTECTED]
U=jerome P=local S=5045
2004-08-12 14:49:19 1BvF1B-BC-BI => [EMAIL PROTECTED]
R=smarthost T=remote_smtp_smarthost H=smtp.online.no [193.213.115.8]
2004-08-12 14:49:19 1BvF1B-BC-BI -> [EMAIL PROTECTED] R=smarthost
T=remote_smtp_smarthost H=smtp.online.no [193.213.115.8]
2004-08-12 14:49:19 1BvF1B-BC-BI -> [EMAIL PROTECTED] R=smarthost
T=remote_smtp_smarthost H=smtp.online.no [193.213.115.8]
2004-08-12 14:49:19 1BvF1B-BC-BI Completed

On the command line,

This works:
> mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]

But this doesn't (mails are sent but never arrive)
> mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Any idea on what's going on? 

My personal feeling is that the email is not accepted by one of the
intermediate SMTP servers on the ground that the Sender domain doesn't
point to an existing IP (see below). Nobody gets notified back because
of that.

more info:

- the email is [EMAIL PROTECTED] is an alias on my real mail box

- the domain name for my machine is coffeebreaks.dyndns.org is an
existing domain, although right now the machine that sends the emails is
NOT located at the IP address identified by that domain name and points
to 192.168.7.21. But the ISP SMTP accepts the sender address anyway.

- exim4 config

[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cat /etc/exim4/update-exim4.conf.conf
# /etc/exim4/update-exim4.conf.conf
#
# Edit this file and /etc/mailname by hand and execute update-exim4.conf
# yourself or use 'dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config'

dc_eximconfig_configtype='smarthost'
dc_other_hostnames=''
dc_local_interfaces='127.0.0.1'
dc_readhost=''
dc_relay_domains=''
dc_minimaldns='true'
dc_relay_nets=192.168.3.0/24''
dc_smarthost='smtp.online.no'
CFILEMODE='644'
dc_use_split_config='false'
dc_hide_mailname='false'

Jerome


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Re: Packages needed for Cups Foomatic printer

[matt zagrabelny]

On Wed, 2004-08-11 at 18:51, Tong wrote:
> Hi, 
> 
> I'm trying to install my HP PSC 1210 usb printer. I was able to do it in
> previous Debian installation, but this time, I am having difficulties
> doing it...
> 
> When I used the web-based cups printer setup, 
> 
> I can't find the driver "Foomatic + hpijs (recommended)" when choosing a
> driver (previously I can). 
> 
> When I used foomatic-gui, there is no option for me to choose an USB
> printer (previously I can).
> 

does "cat /etc/fstab > /dev/usb/lp0" do anything?

-matt


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Re: debian on floppy disks

[Stefan Nicolai O'Rear]

on Mon, Aug 09, 2004 at 05:56:34PM +0930, charlie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Hello my name is Charlie and i recently bought a DIGITAL Brand laptop
> from ebay. it has Windows 98 on it. It doesnt possess a cd rom drive and
> i was interested if i could purchase/download a version of your linux on
> Floppy disks. thank you for your time.

Personally, I'd recomment the N-floppy netinst. Worked well for me.
(if you don't have DSL/Cable/other h.s. internet please ignore this
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Re: Internet Explorer 6 on Debian Unstable

[Paul Galbraith]

Mike Ward wrote:
Thanks for al the suggestions everyone, I'll play with it a bit.
Also, for the record, I'm not trying this because I'm designing for IE
or because I want to browse in IE, but because I know that 95% of the
people that log into our site use IE, and it'd be stupid and neglegent
to not test at all in IE. Even on windows I use FireFox exclusively.
I mean, come on. Like I said, this feels like a mortal sin or something ;)
Please! if you're like anyone I know, you have a job that you do to 
support yourself and your family.  Most jobs require that you deal with 
reality, and if your job is developing web applications, then the 
reality you must deal with is that your primary browser target is almost 
certainly to be IE6, and that's what you need to be testing with!

Whiners who don't like this situation (and insist that we use 
 instead of IE) can feel free to:

	(a) change the browser/OS that most people in the world use and report 
back to me with evidence of their success,

(b) find me a new job that I find acceptable, or
(c) KMA.
In the meantime, Mike, please don't apologize for being level-headed!
Paul

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Re: How do I use the apache2 documentation?

[Johann Spies]

Somebody on a local LUG list helped me on this one.   There is a file
/etc/apache2/conf.d/apache2-doc that tells apache how to handle these
indexes.  And this file uses /manual as an Alias to the
documentation.  The reference in the default /var/www/index.html to
the local documentation is wrong and so is the index of
/var/www/apache2-default.

So w3m http://localhost/manual enables me to read the documention.

Regards
Johann
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What did I do wrong? (Filesystem recovery with ReiserFS)

[James Herschel]

Hello,
I rebooted my server one day to find that I needed to run reiserfsck.  
So I booted up my trusty copy of Knoppix and ran it.  It said that I 
needed to run --rebuild-tree, so I did.

Problem was that even though all the files were recovered, they were all 
recovered to meaningless directories in lost+found.  I was able to get 
all the important data back, but now I'm wasting my morning getting 
everything set up again.

What should I do next time?
Thanks!
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Re: Internet Explorer 6 on Debian Unstable

[Mike Ward]

Hehe.. in all fairness, it's just because we hired some new guy who
now has the windows box I used to use for testing. Oh, and because I
think it'd be hilarious to run IE6 on Linux. Just... well, if you
don't see the humor in that, I'm not explaining it. :)

On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 10:49:48 -0400, Paul Galbraith
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> Mike Ward wrote:
> 
> > Thanks for al the suggestions everyone, I'll play with it a bit.
> >
> > Also, for the record, I'm not trying this because I'm designing for IE
> > or because I want to browse in IE, but because I know that 95% of the
> > people that log into our site use IE, and it'd be stupid and neglegent
> > to not test at all in IE. Even on windows I use FireFox exclusively.
> >
> > I mean, come on. Like I said, this feels like a mortal sin or something ;)
> 
> Please! if you're like anyone I know, you have a job that you do to
> support yourself and your family.  Most jobs require that you deal with
> reality, and if your job is developing web applications, then the
> reality you must deal with is that your primary browser target is almost
> certainly to be IE6, and that's what you need to be testing with!
> 
> Whiners who don't like this situation (and insist that we use
>  instead of IE) can feel free to:
> 
> (a) change the browser/OS that most people in the world use and report
> back to me with evidence of their success,
> 
> (b) find me a new job that I find acceptable, or
> 
> (c) KMA.
> 
> In the meantime, Mike, please don't apologize for being level-headed!
> 
> Paul
> 
> 
> 
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Re: 3ware woes

[Stephen Tait]

Gah, hate replying to myself, but there you go.
Does anyone have any idea how I compile the 3w-9xxx source for 2.4.19?
I've gotten the 2.4 source tarball from 3ware's website, which includes the 
following files:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/3w-9xxx/driver$ ls
3w-9xxx.c  3w-9xxx.h  3w-9xxx_fw.h  Makefile.oth  Makefile.rh
So, the usual .c and .h plus what I presume to be the firmware, plus two 
makefiles; one for Redhat, and one for everything else...? Perhaps 
unsurprisngly, there's no documentation anywhere I can find, and being the 
kind of person who's never done this before (unless you count the ivtv 
module, which actually has a working makefile), I'm a bit lost.

Running make 3w-9xxx gives the following output:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/3w-9xxx/driver$ make 3w-9xxx
cc 3w-9xxx.c   -o 3w-9xxx
In file included from /usr/include/asm/smp.h:18,
 from /usr/include/linux/smp.h:17,
 from /usr/include/linux/sched.h:23,
 from /usr/include/linux/module.h:10,
 from 3w-9xxx.c:61:
/usr/include/asm/mpspec.h:6: mach_mpspec.h: No such file or directory
In file included from /usr/include/linux/smp.h:17,
 from /usr/include/linux/sched.h:23,
 from /usr/include/linux/module.h:10,
 from 3w-9xxx.c:61:
/usr/include/asm/smp.h:73: mach_apicdef.h: No such file or directory
In file included from 3w-9xxx.c:76:
/usr/include/linux/blk.h:1: warning: #warning this file is obsolete, please 
use  instead
In file included from 3w-9xxx.c:86:
/usr/include/asm/irq.h:16: irq_vectors.h: No such file or directory
3w-9xxx.c:89: sd.h: No such file or directory
3w-9xxx.c:90: scsi.h: No such file or directory
3w-9xxx.c:91: hosts.h: No such file or directory
3w-9xxx.c:2261: scsi_module.c: No such file or directory
make: *** [3w-9xxx] Error 1

My cursory glance through the makefile makes it looks like everything is 
there where it should be, but obviously something is amiss. Of course, what 
I'm really looking to do is to patch the kernel source allowing me to 
compile this driver into the kernel (rather than as a module), but that's 
another story.

If anyone has any ideas or can suggest a more appropriate list to moan at, 
then I shall award you 5000 points and a big bowl of raspberry jelly, and 
you can't say fairer than that.

Many thanks!
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POSTFIX smtp relay access problem SOLVED (live config of postfix)

[pushkar]

Keyword:
==

Redhat Linux AS 2.1 RLAS21 RLAS 2.1 postfix configuration compatibility
outlook not sending mail to postfix smtp. Postfix smtp relay simple
postfix relay how to, postfix relay-how-to.
postfix+squirrelmail how to configure..


Server is providing the following services:
==

Primery DNS
Mailing System : Webmail / POP/IMAP client
Web Server : for rvpn.co.in

Packages Used:
==
OS : Redhat AS - version 2.1 (RHAS21)

apache-1.3.23-10 --- Webserver daemon (service httpd start/stop/status)
imap-2001a-15 : > POP3 access to Outlook and Edora client
Postfix-2.0.13-3.1.rhas21 ---> MTA
squirrelmail-1.2.7-4 -->Webmail for Postfix & Imapd
squirrelmail-plugins compatibility:
 1) change_password---3.1-1.2.80--> change pass of user through webmail
 2) compatibility 1.3 --> required for change password option

Remark:
===
1)when installing this squirrelmail error like httpd required will be popup
just ignore it puting rpm -Uvh squirr*.rpm --nodeps. it works.
2) After this entry is required in /etc/httpd/conf/http.conf for alies
for /webmail option in the web browser
3) if POP client like outlook express dosn't work. some relay related
problem has to be sorted out in the main.cf files. To relay local LAN
user in POSTFIX I did the following things:

+
inet_interfaces = all
mynetworks_style = subnet
mynetworks = 210.212.60.0/24 192.168.17.0/24 192.168.18.0/24
smtpd_recipient_restrictions = permit_mynetworks check_client_access
hash:/etc/postfix/client_access check_sender_access
hash:/etc/postfix/sender_access reject_unauth_destination

Note : create the file in /etc/postfix for sender_access and
check_client_access.

Sample of client_access file:
210.212.99.60   OK
210.212.99.51   OK
192.168.17.0OK
127.0.0.1   OK
10.0.0.2OK

IMPORTANT: after any entry or changed dont be fool and forget to write it
to database. to write it to database just do

postmap client_access

Now go and check the Mail is sending and receiving from Outlook also.

Here is live and running Postfix main.cf file configuration:



# readme_directory: The location of the Postfix README files.
#
readme_directory = /etc/postfix/README_FILES
alias_database = hash:/etc/postfix/aliases
alias_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/aliases
mydestination = pushkar.co.in
myorigin = pushkar.co.in
masquerade_domains = pushkar.co.in
#fallback_transport = smtp:ns.pushkar.co.in
inet_interfaces = all
mynetworks_style = subnet
mynetworks = 2sdsfsdfs60.0/24 192.168.17.0/24 192.168.18.0/24
smtpd_recipient_restrictions = permit_mynetworks check_client_access
hash:/etc/postfix/client_access check_sender_access
hash:/etc/postfix/sender_access reject_unauth_destination

hummm
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Re: 3ware woes

[Stephan Seitz]

On Thu, Aug 12, 2004 at 04:38:49PM +0100, Stephen Tait wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/3w-9xxx/driver$ make 3w-9xxx
cc 3w-9xxx.c   -o 3w-9xxx
In file included from /usr/include/asm/smp.h:18,
 from /usr/include/linux/smp.h:17,
 from /usr/include/linux/sched.h:23,
 from /usr/include/linux/module.h:10,
 from 3w-9xxx.c:61:
/usr/include/asm/mpspec.h:6: mach_mpspec.h: No such file or directory
In file included from /usr/include/linux/smp.h:17,
 from /usr/include/linux/sched.h:23,
 from /usr/include/linux/module.h:10,
 from 3w-9xxx.c:61:
/usr/include/asm/smp.h:73: mach_apicdef.h: No such file or directory
In file included from 3w-9xxx.c:76:
/usr/include/linux/blk.h:1: warning: #warning this file is obsolete, please 
use  instead
In file included from 3w-9xxx.c:86:
/usr/include/asm/irq.h:16: irq_vectors.h: No such file or directory
3w-9xxx.c:89: sd.h: No such file or directory
3w-9xxx.c:90: scsi.h: No such file or directory
3w-9xxx.c:91: hosts.h: No such file or directory
3w-9xxx.c:2261: scsi_module.c: No such file or directory
make: *** [3w-9xxx] Error 1
Say, do you have the configured kernel source somethere on the disc?
At least sd.h, scsi.h,... belong to the kernel source. And a module is
compiled against the kernel.
Do you find something like /usr/src/linux in the makefile? And is
there a /usr/src/linux on your system?
Shade and sweet water!
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Re: 3ware woes

[Jacob S.]

On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 16:38:49 +0100
Stephen Tait <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Gah, hate replying to myself, but there you go.
> 
> Does anyone have any idea how I compile the 3w-9xxx source for 2.4.19?
> 
> I've gotten the 2.4 source tarball from 3ware's website, which
> includes the following files:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/3w-9xxx/driver$ ls
> 3w-9xxx.c  3w-9xxx.h  3w-9xxx_fw.h  Makefile.oth  Makefile.rh
> 
> So, the usual .c and .h plus what I presume to be the firmware, plus
> two makefiles; one for Redhat, and one for everything else...? Perhaps
> unsurprisngly, there's no documentation anywhere I can find, and being
> the kind of person who's never done this before (unless you count the
> ivtv module, which actually has a working makefile), I'm a bit lost.

Just a shot in the dark, but have you tried the following:

cp Makefile.oth Makefile
make

Most of the commercial drivers I've worked with don't require a
configure or anything; they just make assumptions and expect you to have
everything in place. If all their assumptions are valid for your system,
then make works. 

Also, you might take a look at their drivers for the 2.6 kernel. I
noticed there's a Readme.txt file in that tarball. It has 2.6 specific
instructions, so it wouldn't work verbatim for 2.4, but if you translate
a couple of things you might be able to get somewhere.

HTH,
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Re: Installing a new version of XFree86

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On Thu, 12 Aug 2004, H. A. Sujith Shastry wrote:

> I have Debian 3.0rc2. I've installed XFree86(4.1) and I'm using the
> fbdev driver, because my video card is not supported. But my video card
> is supported in newer versions of XFree86(4.2 onwards), so I need to
> upgrade. How do upgrade XFree86 (and related packaged) without
> breaking (or upgrading) other packages? What should I download? What
> should I look out for?

The package you need to upgrade is xserver-xfree86, and you need the
version from Sarge (4.3; Woody is still on 4.1). There are a bunch of ways
you can go about doing it; the cheap/sleazy way that I would use is:

 * edit your /etc/apt/sources.list to include the ordinary testing package
   sources; e.g., insert this into your sources.list:
deb http://debian.lcs.mit.edu/debian/ testing main

 * apt-get update
 * apt-get install xserver-xfree86
 * assuming that goes well, and nothing that will Kill You is installed,
   then comment out the line you inserted in your sources.list
 * dpkg --clear-avail
 * apt-get update (to revert to the previously available packages list)

You want to be careful. I might even run a dpkg --forget-old-unavail after
- --clear-avail. The problem with that is that if you run dselect
afterwards, dselect will automatically reselect any packages from
Standard, Important or Required that you had unselected, thinking that
they're new packages.

Read man dpkg before following these instructions though. :)
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Counsole problem with kernel-image-2.6.7-1-686-smp

[Michael Kahle]

I just built a system using the new debian-installer. Everything (almost)
worked fine, but the d-i installed the default kernel,
kernel-image-2.6.7-1-386.  No problem.  I just used aptitude to upgrade to
kernel-image-2.6.7-1-686-smp.  I then updated my menu.1st file and grub and
rebooted.  Everything seamed to load fine, but when I was presented with a
logon prompt pressing keys would give me the following errors:

debian login: atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed (raw set 2, code 0x113 on
isa0060/ser
io0).
atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes 13 ' to make it known.

Every key I press their after presents me with the same message, the only
difference being the value displayed for "code " in the error message.

Any ideas?

Michael


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extended vga

[Paul Maser]

With lilo the command vga=extended in lilo.conf would get you an
svga prompt screen.
How do you do this with grub?


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Re: restarting network connections

[Paul Maser]

On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 00:10:05 +0200, Paul Maser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>Besides rebooting, how do you restart the network connections
>after making changes to /etc/network/interfaces?
>Thanks;

Thanks everyone. Your help is always greatly appreciated.
Paul


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a number of question concerning debian/satge and thinkpad 770x laptop

[Rodney D. Myers]

I'm now having a number of small issues related to the laptop. I did get
sarge installed on the pcmcia network card, after figuring out how to
get it recognized. And that was, when the requester asked which driver
needed to be used, I had to remove, and re-insert the pcmcia network
card, nd it worked, and has worked ever since.

The default settings have KDM start upon boot-up. Nice touch for my
girlfriend.

Question 1. How do I get network services to start after pcmcia? Once
booted, things work as they are supposed to, but numerous error messages
until pcmcia services start.

Question 2. the trackball has quit working in X, though lsmod shows both
mousedev & psmouse loaded. They are entered in my /etc/modules file.

Question 3. The onboard sound does not work. googled to get it to work,
and I do (next question to make it automatically) have it working. How
do I get Debian not to try and configure it every-time I boot?

Thanks

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Re: extended vga

[matt zagrabelny]

On Thu, 2004-08-12 at 12:15, Paul Maser wrote:
> With lilo the command vga=extended in lilo.conf would get you an
> svga prompt screen.
> How do you do this with grub?
> 

google for "grub extended vga", follow first link.

-matt


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Linux help system (Was: -=> Re: I hate it when that happens...)

[listcomm]

> It's built in in - at least in bash ;)

Not only that, but (correct me if I'm wrong - that's why I'm
posting this) it appears that the docs for some things are
split into docs that appear in HTML in /usr/share/docs, and
docs that appear via the "help" command (the data for which
is stored somewhere where I haven't found it yet, although
I haven't really looked...).

Additionally, in some cases it appears that there may be information
available via the "help" docs which is not in the HTML docs,
and vice versa.

I recently engaged with "exim", and if it weren't for the fact that
I found an obscure reference buried in the back yard in the dead of
night, to the fact that there is an "exim-docs" package which needed
to be loaded *in addition* to the exim docs which turn up in the
"/usr/share/docs" directory, I would never have known it was there
- and that package seems to be what turns up via the "help" command.

If the "help" command is only available in "bash", I'll have to
do some negotiating...  I'm a csh/tcsh nazi and hate anything that
looks like the original Bourne shell on general principles (or no
principles at all, FTM)

Please correct me if I'm wrong about any of this, since this is one
area I've been meaning to explore and haven't Gotten Around To It


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Re: Packages needed for Cups Foomatic printer

[Tong]

On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 20:46:31 -0400, Jason Rennie wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 11, 2004 at 07:51:33PM -0400, Tong wrote:
>> Here are all the relevant packages that I have installed:
>> 
>> cupsys
>> cupsys-bsd
>> cupsys-client
>> foomatic-db
>> foomatic-db-engine
>> foomatic-db-hpijs
>> foomatic-filters
>> foomatic-gui
>> hpijs
>> libcupsimage2
>> libcupsys2-gnutls10
>> libusb-0.1-4
> 
> I'm no Debian CUPS expert, but I have CUPS up-and-running with support
> for a long list of printers.  Took me some fiddling to find the
> package that provided driver support, I recall.  Anyway, try
> installing these packages:
> 
> cupsys-driver-gimpprint
> cupsomatic-ppd
> foomatic-db-gimp-print
> 

Thanks, Jason,

tcupsys-driver-gimpprin is the magic package that added  a long
list of printer drivers. But unfortunately, no driver for "Foomatic +
hpijs (recommended)". In fact, I tried everyone of them, none does. 

Thanks anyway.






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Re: Obsessed with a clean system

[Lourens Steenkamp]

Lourens replying to Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

[big snip]

>  
>  Doesn't matter to me... I have a local mirror for the 4 archs I use.

I have also aquired a mirror (woody, sarge, sid, experimental, security
stuff, no src).
Could you tell me how you keep your mirror in sync?

TIA.


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Re: Packages needed for Cups Foomatic printer

[Tong]

On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 09:47:08 -0500, matt zagrabelny wrote:

>> I can't find the driver "Foomatic + hpijs (recommended)" when choosing a
>> driver (previously I can). 
>> 
>> When I used foomatic-gui, there is no option for me to choose an USB
>> printer (previously I can).
>> 
> 
> does "cat /etc/fstab > /dev/usb/lp0" do anything?

Nope, 

Note that HP PSC 1210 only understand PCL. 


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Re: extended vga

[s. keeling]

Incoming from Paul Maser:
> With lilo the command vga=extended in lilo.conf would get you an
> svga prompt screen.
> How do you do this with grub?

kernel  /vmlinuz-2.4.18-1-686 root=/dev/hda9 ro hdc=scsi vga=ask acpi=off
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Re: Linux help system (Was: -=> Re: I hate it when that happens...)

[Thomas Adam]

On Thu, Aug 12, 2004 at 11:04:07AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > It's built in in - at least in bash ;)
> 
> Not only that, but (correct me if I'm wrong - that's why I'm
> posting this) it appears that the docs for some things are
> split into docs that appear in HTML in /usr/share/docs, and
> docs that appear via the "help" command (the data for which
> is stored somewhere where I haven't found it yet, although
> I haven't really looked...).

man bash-builtins

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Re: Linux help system (Was: -=> Re: I hate it when that happens...)

[Stefan Nicolai O'Rear]

On Thu, Aug 12, 2004 at 11:04:07AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > It's built in in - at least in bash ;)
> 
> Not only that, but (correct me if I'm wrong - that's why I'm
> posting this) it appears that the docs for some things are
> split into docs that appear in HTML in /usr/share/docs, and
> docs that appear via the "help" command (the data for which
> is stored somewhere where I haven't found it yet, although
> I haven't really looked...).

The 'help' command is ONLY for bash internal commands, like set.
It's stored in the bash source code.

$ apt-get source bash
$ cd bash-2.05a/builtins
$ # the set docs are in set.def (as well as the set source code)

For non-bash shells, try something like man tcsh.


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Re: Configuration DB

[Paul E Condon]

On Thu, Aug 12, 2004 at 08:43:04AM +1000, Cameron Hutchison wrote:
> Once upon a time Jason Rennie said...
> > On Mon, Aug 09, 2004 at 02:09:08AM -0700, Brian Nelson wrote:
> > > The debconf database is nothing more than a temporary cache of answers
> > > gotten from the user.  Debconf will regenerate this data by asking any
> > > questions it needs to.
> > 
> > If the Debian designers had this attitude, everything would go into
> > /var/cache:
> > 
> >   What, you want to run oowriter?  Oops, just deleted that from my
> >   cache.  Downloading openoffice.org-bin.deb from www.debian.org.
> >   Please wait.
> 
> Worse than that. All configuration files could be stored in /var/cache
> with this logic, since vi can just regenerate this data by getting you to
> type it in again.
> 
> As I see it, if debconf is asking you the questions again, *it* is not
> regenerating the data, but *you* are.
> 

I've looked at the contents of /var/cache/debconf on my machine. I
can't make out what it really contains. It certainly doesn't seem to
contain the answers that I gave to configuration questions during
package installation. 

As I said in a earlier post, if you are concerned that it *does* contain
information that should be checkpointed, you can move it to /etc and
either put a softlink in /var/cache, or edit /etc/debconf.conf to point 
to its new location within /etc

Someone who mistrusts the design of debconf might try renaming 
/var/cache/debconf to /var/cache/hide.debconf and see what happens.
Is a new /var/cache/debconf created automatically? Or do you have to
rename /var/cache/hide.debconf back to its original name to get this
working again?

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Re: Linux help system (Was: -=> Re: I hate it when that happens...)

[Dragan Cvetkovic]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> If the "help" command is only available in "bash", I'll have to
> do some negotiating...  I'm a csh/tcsh nazi and hate anything that
> looks like the original Bourne shell on general principles (or no
> principles at all, FTM)
>
> Please correct me if I'm wrong about any of this, since this is one
> area I've been meaning to explore and haven't Gotten Around To It

Google for "Csh Programming Considered Harmful" or go directly to
e.g. http://www.faqs.org/faqs/unix-faq/shell/csh-whynot/

Bye, Dragan

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rpm packages Debian

[michael . sherman]

I have 2 rpm packages that I want to install on a Sarge system. Can someone
give me a hint or a link as to how to do that. 
Michael


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'Error Message' "language plpgsql does not exist

[John Foster]

I got this error when setting up SQL-Ledger>

Error!


CREATE FUNCTION del_yearend() RETURNS OPAQUE AS '
begin
 delete from yearend where trans_id = old.id;
 return NULL;
end;
' language 'plpgsql';

ERROR: language "plpgsql" does not exist

Any ideas as to what or why?


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Re: rpm packages Debian

[Brian Pack]

On Thu, 2004-08-12 at 14:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I have 2 rpm packages that I want to install on a Sarge system. Can someone
> give me a hint or a link as to how to do that. 
> Michael

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> I have 2 rpm packages that I want to install on a Sarge system. Can someone
> give me a hint or a link as to how to do that. 

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Re: Internet Explorer 6 on Debian Unstable

[Paul Galbraith]

Mike Ward wrote:
Hehe.. in all fairness, it's just because we hired some new guy who
now has the windows box I used to use for testing. Oh, and because I
think it'd be hilarious to run IE6 on Linux. Just... well, if you
don't see the humor in that, I'm not explaining it. :)
I do see the humour, not to mention that unexplainable, yet real, 
satisfaction of having done something both useless and technologically 
cool...I feel the urge, too :-)

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Various and sundry attempts to use my own ISP through exim4

[David Baron]

I have a dynamic ISP. I can use it of SSH, etc.

If I try sending email to it using my provider:
mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] is "completed" by exim but I never see the message.
mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] goes to neverland. Eventually, the provider's system 
sends an error message after four days of timeout.

If I try sending email similarly but using the "mail" commandline:
To my provider-email address [EMAIL PROTECTED], is rejected saying name.dom.ain 
does not exist!!
To my own ISP--well, the user UID != mail UID so it does not work.

My current exim4 has my provider as the smart smtp server and routers for each 
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Re: rpm packages Debian

[Peter O]

On August 12, 2004 02:41 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I have 2 rpm packages that I want to install on a Sarge system. Can someone
> give me a hint or a link as to how to do that.
> Michael

You can convert them to debs using alien command and then install the debs:

apt-get install alien
alient --to-deb *.rpm
dpkg -i *.deb

Cheers,
Peter

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Re: Internet Explorer 6 on Debian Unstable

[s. keeling]

[Ew!  I swore to myself I wouldn't get involved in this one ...]

Incoming from Paul Galbraith:
> Mike Ward wrote:
> >Hehe.. in all fairness, it's just because we hired some new guy who
> >now has the windows box I used to use for testing. Oh, and because I
> >think it'd be hilarious to run IE6 on Linux. Just... well, if you
> >don't see the humor in that, I'm not explaining it. :)
> 
> I do see the humour, not to mention that unexplainable, yet real, 
> satisfaction of having done something both useless and technologically 
> cool...I feel the urge, too :-)

I can just see the CERT Advisory addendum: "It is safe to run IE, as
long as it's not run from within Microsoft Operating Systems Software
(Windows)"; the ultimate slap in the face for their "security model."

Too bad this wasn't around during the antitrust case.


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RE: exim4 problems -- Hold the presses. I received messages sent as command line!

[David Baron]

Yup. Both the one to the provider and the one to my ISP!

Caveats: It insisted on a cc which I did to [EMAIL PROTECTED] This would have 
gone to a different mailbox. I did not receive the cc's.


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Re: Squatted harddisk

[Paul E Condon]

On Thu, Aug 12, 2004 at 06:02:07AM -0700, James Vahn wrote:
> Patrick wrote:
> > Help! My harddisks are being sqautted by renegade bits!
> > No, seriousely, my hdd's are slowly filling up, but I'm not realy sure
> > with what. How can I get a comprehensive overview which files are where
> > occupying what space? I tried df, but that is very minimalistic. I'd like
> > to get a treeview of files and space in use...
> > Any suggestions?
> 
> "filelight" is sure nifty, 'though it requires a disk-filling GUI.. ;-)
> "du" for the old school text mode.
> 

You can find out which files/directories are taking most space on disk with:

du / | sort -k 1,1nr | most

If you don't have most installed, use more or less.

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Re: Packages needed for Cups Foomatic printer

[CW Harris]

On Wed, Aug 11, 2004 at 07:51:33PM -0400, Tong wrote:
> Hi, 
> 
> I'm trying to install my HP PSC 1210 usb printer. I was able to do it in
> previous Debian installation, but this time, I am having difficulties
> doing it...

Have you checked out linuxprinting.org? (See for example,
http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-PSC_1210
for comments on how others have used the printer.)  I only skimmed the
comments, since I'm not sure what kernel, etc. you are using.

> 
> When I used the web-based cups printer setup, 
> 
> I can't find the driver "Foomatic + hpijs (recommended)" when choosing a
> driver (previously I can). 
> 
> When I used foomatic-gui, there is no option for me to choose an USB
> printer (previously I can).

I have only used a different model HP using the hpoj package to support
scanning also (in which case you use the HP ptal interface to the printer
rather than plain usb), so I'm not sure about other differences without
hpoj support.

Sorry not much help.
Good luck.

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Re: Configuration DB

[Brian Nelson]

On Thu, Aug 12, 2004 at 12:28:42PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 12, 2004 at 08:43:04AM +1000, Cameron Hutchison wrote:
> > Once upon a time Jason Rennie said...
> > > On Mon, Aug 09, 2004 at 02:09:08AM -0700, Brian Nelson wrote:
> > > > The debconf database is nothing more than a temporary cache of answers
> > > > gotten from the user.  Debconf will regenerate this data by asking any
> > > > questions it needs to.
> > > 
> > > If the Debian designers had this attitude, everything would go into
> > > /var/cache:
> > > 
> > >   What, you want to run oowriter?  Oops, just deleted that from my
> > >   cache.  Downloading openoffice.org-bin.deb from www.debian.org.
> > >   Please wait.
> > 
> > Worse than that. All configuration files could be stored in /var/cache
> > with this logic, since vi can just regenerate this data by getting you to
> > type it in again.
> > 
> > As I see it, if debconf is asking you the questions again, *it* is not
> > regenerating the data, but *you* are.
> > 
> 
> I've looked at the contents of /var/cache/debconf on my machine. I
> can't make out what it really contains. It certainly doesn't seem to
> contain the answers that I gave to configuration questions during
> package installation. 

$ grep Value: /var/cache/debconf/config.dat

are all answers you either gave or debconf gave defaults for (depending
on your debconf priority setting).

> As I said in a earlier post, if you are concerned that it *does* contain
> information that should be checkpointed, you can move it to /etc and
> either put a softlink in /var/cache, or edit /etc/debconf.conf to point 
> to its new location within /etc
> 
> Someone who mistrusts the design of debconf might try renaming 
> /var/cache/debconf to /var/cache/hide.debconf and see what happens.
> Is a new /var/cache/debconf created automatically? 

You should never remove directories in /var/cache.  Files must be
regenerated, but directories do not need to be, so something may break
if you do.

See
http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#VARCACHEAPPLICATIONCACHEDATA

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Re: How to dist-upgrade?

[Brian Nelson]

On Thu, Aug 12, 2004 at 07:34:07PM +1000, Clement wrote:
> Brian Nelson wrote:
> 
> >On Thu, Aug 12, 2004 at 10:30:32AM +0600, askar wrote:
> > 
> >
> >>Hello!
> >>
> >>I want to upgrade from Woody to Sarge.
> >>As I understand the necessary commands are:
> >>1) apt-get update
> >>2) apt-get upgrade
> >>3) apt-get dist-upgrade
> >>   
> >>
> >
> >I strongly recommend using aptitude or dselect or some other apt
> >frontend instead.

^^^ Look up!

> >>But do I have to change my sources.list?
> >>Is changing "stable" into "testing" enough?
> >>   
> >>
> ><>
> >Yes, but I strongly recommend changing it to "sarge" rather than
> >"testing".
> 
> So what should be the sequence:
> 
> 1.  apt-get update
> 2.  apt-get upgrade
> 3.  change 'woody' to 'sarge'
> 4.  apt-get update
> 5.  atp-get dist-upgrade
> 
> or just
> 
> 1.  change 'woody' to 'sarge'
> 2.  apt-get update
> 3.  apt-get upgrade
> 4.  atp-get dist-upgrade

Uhh, you missed my first point.

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Re: How popular is Debian (popularity contest)

[Werner Mahr]

Am Sonntag, 8. August 2004 20:37 schrieb Steve Lamb:
> Werner Mahr wrote:
> > Many Browsers Identify themselves as IE, Opera as example does this as
> > default even under Linux.
>
> Not exactly true.  It still identifies itself as Opera in the string,
> it just presents it in a way that most checks think it is IE.

I didn`t use it for a long time (konquerer comes with KDE), so maybe they 
changed that.

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Re: How to dist-upgrade?

[Thomas Adam]

On Thu, Aug 12, 2004 at 07:34:07PM +1000, Clement wrote:
> So what should be the sequence:

If you have to ask, you shouldn't. :)

/me runs.

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Re: How popular is Debian (popularity contest)

[Werner Mahr]

Am Montag, 9. August 2004 00:05 schrieb Simon Kitching:

> Of course this would not count users of testing or unstable, which don't
> have security updates.

Only testing. Unstable has securityupdates.

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Re: Packages needed for Cups Foomatic printer

[Ed Lawson]

I can't find the driver "Foomatic + hpijs (recommended)" when choosing a
driver (previously I can).
Have you installed the foomatic-db-hpijs package?
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Re: How popular is Debian (popularity contest)

[Paul Johnson]

Werner Mahr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Am Montag, 9. August 2004 00:05 schrieb Simon Kitching:
>
>> Of course this would not count users of testing or unstable, which don't
>> have security updates.
>
> Only testing. Unstable has securityupdates.


Unstable does not get security updates on security.debian.org.  Usually,
only stable does, but frozen apparently does now, too...


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Re: So you think you are (or wanna be) a hacker

[Jason Rennie]

On Thu, Aug 12, 2004 at 10:59:36AM +0800, John Summerfield wrote:
> So set the ball rolling, here is a snippet from a program I found via 
> freshmeat the other day:
>   configfile = malloc(strlen(getenv("HOME")) + 20);
>   sprintf(configfile,"%s/%s",getenv("HOME"), cfgfile);

Something a bit safer...

char *home = getenv("HOME");
if (home == NULL || cfgfile == NULL) hittheuseronthehead();
int sz = strlen(home) + strlen(cfgfile) + 2;
char *configfile = malloc(sizeof(char)*sz);
sprintf(configfile,"%s/%s",home,cfgfile);

I'm sure someone can do better (and be more creative :)

On Wed, Aug 11, 2004 at 08:31:49PM -0700, Stefan Nicolai O'Rear wrote:
> * It's very ugly (atleast to me.)

Is there such a thing as pretty C code?  Or C++ code for that matter?

Jason


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Re: So you think you are (or wanna be) a hacker

[Stefan Nicolai O'Rear]

On Thu, Aug 12, 2004 at 04:38:25PM -0400, Jason Rennie wrote:
> Something a bit safer...
> 
> char *home = getenv("HOME");
> if (home == NULL || cfgfile == NULL) hittheuseronthehead();
> int sz = strlen(home) + strlen(cfgfile) + 2;
> char *configfile = malloc(sizeof(char)*sz);
> sprintf(configfile,"%s/%s",home,cfgfile);
> 
> I'm sure someone can do better (and be more creative :)

Using a glibc extension, how about:

   char *configfile;

   asprintf (&configfile, "%s/%s", getenv ("HOME"), cfgfile);

aprintf auto-mallocs a buffer of the right size.
Be sure to free()!


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Re: [NEWBIE] Installing PHP and Apache on Debian

[Osamu Aoki]

On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 04:18:56PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi.
> 
> I plan to install PHP and Apache on a new, virgin (remote) Debian
> server, with PHP running as an Apache shared module.  Can I do that
> using "apt-get install"? Would I simply run "apt-get install php4" (is
> that the correct notaton?) and will that take care of everything else
> (including installing Apache)? If not, I would appreciate any pointers
> to documents that will step me through the process (including Debian
> specific caveats), or even step-by-step instructions.

Yes and no.

First, try it on local server.
Second, check what happens.
Get it right locally.
Do it on remote machine :)

One complication is your choice between apache or apache2 package.

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Re: Linux help system (Was: -=> Re: I hate it when that happens...)

[John Summerfield]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's built in in - at least in bash ;)
   

Not only that, but (correct me if I'm wrong - that's why I'm
posting this) it appears that the docs for some things are
split into docs that appear in HTML in /usr/share/docs, and
docs that appear via the "help" command (the data for which
is stored somewhere where I haven't found it yet, although
I haven't really looked...).
 

Help command is built in. Including its text.
Additionally, in some cases it appears that there may be information
available via the "help" docs which is not in the HTML docs,
and vice versa.
I recently engaged with "exim", and if it weren't for the fact that
I found an obscure reference buried in the back yard in the dead of
night, to the fact that there is an "exim-docs" package which needed
to be loaded *in addition* to the exim docs which turn up in the
"/usr/share/docs" directory, I would never have known it was there
- and that package seems to be what turns up via the "help" command.
If the "help" command is only available in "bash", I'll have to
do some negotiating...  I'm a csh/tcsh nazi and hate anything that
looks like the original Bourne shell on general principles (or no
principles at all, FTM)
Please correct me if I'm wrong about any of this, since this is one
area I've been meaning to explore and haven't Gotten Around To It
 

I think you're confused.
Documentation is a much-ignored standard.
Some is in man format:
man man
THe GNU project likes info
info info
Some projects prefer HTML:
links /usr/share/doc/postgresql-doc/html/index.html
Others think postscript is cool
gv /usr/lib/tk8.4/prolog.ps
or even pdf
xpdf /usr/share/cups/doc-root/cmp.pdf
and there's aplways plain old documents:
perldoc /usr/share/doc/openssl/doc/crypto/ASN1_OBJECT_new.pod
or even text, sometimes compressed:
zless /usr/share/doc/debian/FAQ/debian-faq.en.txt.gz
sometimes not:
/usr/share/doc/dillo/Cookies.txt
I'm shore
there are more
Clear?
oh, sometimes the docs are included, somethins you need a -doc package. 
Use dpkg or apt-cache to find out. It's quicker and more accurate than 
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Re: How popular is Debian (popularity contest)

[John Summerfield]

Werner Mahr wrote:
Am Montag, 9. August 2004 00:05 schrieb Simon Kitching:
 

Of course this would not count users of testing or unstable, which don't
have security updates.
   

Only testing. Unstable has securityupdates.
 

Sarge gas security updates. I'd have said, 'Unstable has random updates:-)"

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Re: Internet Explorer 6 on Debian Unstable

[John Summerfield]

matt zagrabelny wrote:
On Wed, 2004-08-11 at 19:31, Gregory Pierce wrote:
 

Mike,
I don't know if this has already been suggested, but you can emulate the
whole Windows XP (or any other brand of WIndows) environment with a
proprietary package called VMware.  Unfortunately, it does a cost a
small sum, ~$200.  I actually bought it recently thinking that it would
be fun to emulate a Windows XP box set up in its default state (naked to
the world) and watch the viruses and worms wiggle their way in. I never
got around to doing this but I thought it would be a fun and secure way
to learn about Windows vulnerabilities. I can't tell you how well it
works, as I have yet to install it. There may well be other Debian users
out there who have used it and may be able to tell you how well it
works.
   

i believe bochs would work as an alternative to vmware that is Free.
 

As I understand it, bochs is a CPU emulator. If you want Pentium 
performance from an Opteron,go for it.

Xen is a different matter, but I believe you need a modified version of 
Windows.


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Re: Sarge not printing

[Kevin B. McCarty]

For what it's worth, I started experiencing the same problem beginning
perhaps a couple weeks ago.  The weird thing is that my cluster is
running woody except for a few backports!  One of them was gs 7.07, so I
downgraded back to the gs in woody, but still no luck.  I haven't found
a solution yet.

Someone filed a bug on this problem against gs, although who knows
whether that is actually the culprit.  The similarly afflicted or the
morbidly curious can follow along at http://bugs.debian.org/258042 .

regards,

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Can't print a PDF file

[Bill Moseley]

I know little about PDF and/or Postscript.  I'm looking for pointers
for where to seek help (perhaps a list or someone that know
pdf/postscript).

I'm running an up to date Sid installation.  I use CUPS for printing.
Printing PDFs normally works fine.

I received a PDF that I'm suppose to print out and fill in the form.
One "feature" is that some of the fields are already filled in -- as
if they did some type of "merge" to pre-fill in a few of the fields
with my specific info.

The basic problem is I can't print the PDF.

- Xpdf displays the pdf correctly with my personal info displayed on the
form.

- gv displays the form without the personal info displayed.  It
generates the following error:

Execution stack:
   %interp_exit   .runexec2   --nostringval--   --nostringval--   --nostringval--  
 2   %stopped_push   --nostringval--   --nostringval--   --nostringval--   false   1   
%stopped_push   1   3   %oparray_pop   1   3   %oparray_pop   1   3   %oparray_pop   
.runexec2   --nostringval--   --nostringval--   --nostringval--   2   %stopped_push   
--nostringval--   --nostringval--   --nostringval--   --nostringval--   
%array_continue   --nostringval--   false   1   %stopped_push   --nostringval--   
%loop_continue   --nostringval--   %finish_show   --nostringval--   --nostringval--   
4   8   1   --nostringval--   (bbox_text_enum)   %op_show_continue   --nostringval--   
--nostringval--   --nostringval--
Dictionary stack:
   --dict:1053/1417(ro)(G)--   --dict:0/20(G)--   --dict:73/200(L)--   
--dict:97/127(ro)(G)--   --dict:229/230(ro)(G)--   --dict:19/24(L)--   --dict:4/6(L)-- 
  --dict:24/31(L)--   --dict:12/16(ro)(L)--
Current allocation mode is local
ESP Ghostscript 7.07.1: Unrecoverable error, exit code 1

- gs displays the form for an instant and then aborts with the same
message.

- Printing with CUPS makes my HP non-postscript printer's light flash
a few times then nothing prints.

- Using Xpdf to "print to file" generates a postscript file.  I get
the same behavior trying to display it in gv or gs.

- acroread displays the form correctly but when sending to the printer
it also make the light flash a few times then nothing happens.
Acroread does warn that the PDF contains features not supported in
that version of acroread (which is the most current version available
for linux).

I'd like to figure out why it's failing.




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Re: So you think you are (or wanna be) a hacker

[John Summerfield]

Jason Rennie wrote:
On Thu, Aug 12, 2004 at 10:59:36AM +0800, John Summerfield wrote:
 

So set the ball rolling, here is a snippet from a program I found via 
freshmeat the other day:
	configfile = malloc(strlen(getenv("HOME")) + 20);
	sprintf(configfile,"%s/%s",getenv("HOME"), cfgfile);
   

Something a bit safer...
char *home = getenv("HOME");
if (home == NULL || cfgfile == NULL) hittheuseronthehead();
 

;-)
I like this because it's conservative and clearly coded. There are many 
short cuts in C which make more concise code. However, the most 
important code readers aren't compilers, they're people. When the code 
doesn't work as expected, it's people and not compilers who have to 
figure out what's wrong, and it's then that clear code becomes more 
important.

Often too, clear code won't have as many bugs in the first place, but 
then even bug-free code needs changes when requirements change.

int sz = strlen(home) + strlen(cfgfile) + 2;
char *configfile = malloc(sizeof(char)*sz);
sprintf(configfile,"%s/%s",home,cfgfile);
I'm sure someone can do better (and be more creative :)
On Wed, Aug 11, 2004 at 08:31:49PM -0700, Stefan Nicolai O'Rear wrote:
 

* It's very ugly (atleast to me.)
   

Is there such a thing as pretty C code?  Or C++ code for that matter?
 

:-)
I have some aprehensions about use of extensions as in Stefan's reply 
because they're non-standard and reduce portability.

Is there interest here in more of this kind of thing?
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Making a route change persistent in Debian

[Tony Uceda Velez]

How do you make a route change persistent in Debian?  Is there a comparable
tool like yast or a route.conf file?

Thanks.

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Re: which Sarge ISO I should download?

[John Summerfield]

Mingzhai Sun wrote:
Dear all,
I'd like to install Sarge, but I found in the FTP serve, there are 13 ISO's.
Which one should I download, I think I should not download all of them.
 

Unless you particularly want them, none of them;-)
You cando network installs off the Internet, and if you have a caching 
proxy such as  Squid in the loop it will cache the files you actually 
require. If you're doing it at work I wouldn't think speed a great 
issue: I sometimes install (small systems) via dialup.

There's a netinst image good for this: otoh I use PXE and boot off the LAN.

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Re: k3b and dvd+rw-tools

[Juraj Kubelka]

It is corrected in version 0.11.13-1 (unstable debian) of k3b. If you
cannot install this version then install previous version of
dvd+rw-tools (dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/dvd...)

Cesta

On Mon  9.Aug 14:48, Cedric Gavage wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have a strange thing with k3b... dvd+rw-tools package is installed, 
> when I start k3b, I receive a warning with "Unable to find 
> dvd+rw-format" but dvd+rw-format is in /usr/bin and it's in the search 
> path of k3b...
> 
> Any idea?
> 
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Re: Obsessed with a clean system

[Kirk Strauser]

On Thursday 12 August 2004 12:36, Lourens Steenkamp wrote:

> I have also aquired a mirror (woody, sarge, sid, experimental, security
> stuff, no src).
> Could you tell me how you keep your mirror in sync?

I cheated on my mirror: I installed a Squid server and pointed apt at that 
proxy.  That way, there's no penalty of downloading more packages than 
needed, but additional hosts benefit from the packages already downloaded 
by earlier hosts.
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Re: So you think you are (or wanna be) a hacker

[Kirk Strauser]

On Thursday 12 August 2004 15:38, Jason Rennie wrote:

> Something a bit safer...
>
> char *home = getenv("HOME");
> if (home == NULL || cfgfile == NULL) hittheuseronthehead();
> int sz = strlen(home) + strlen(cfgfile) + 2;
> char *configfile = malloc(sizeof(char)*sz);
> sprintf(configfile,"%s/%s",home,cfgfile);
>
> I'm sure someone can do better (and be more creative :)

I'm partial to:

if not os.getenv('HOME') or not cfgfile:
raise ForgotToSetConfigfileError
return '%s/%s' % (os.getenv('HOME'), cfgfile)

but that's just me.  ;-)
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Weird getty behaviour

[Juha K Kallio]

For some reason, my gettys on tty2-12 aren't respawning correctly.
After I logout the shell (zsh, if it has anything to do with this)
the getty won't respawn as it should, but instead writes to auth.log
that the tty is in use. After switching to another tty with alt+fn,
it respawns after some time. 

Also sometimes, seemingly at random, some of the gettys on tty2-12 
won't start immediatly at boot time, but after a minute or so. In 
this case, they complain about I/O errors. This is naturally 
frustrating, as X might be started in one of these ttys instead of 
tty13. Neither of these don't happen with tty1, for some reason.


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Re: Internet Explorer 6 on Debian Unstable

[Mike Ward]

For anyone who happens to stumble across this or what-not, I ended up
messing with Crossover Office a bit, and eventually got it to install
IE6. So far it works quite well, other than a few (realitively minor)
glitches in displaying things like combo boxes and such.

Thanks for all the suggestions.


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screen messing with tab completion and other annoyances

[Jorge Santos]

Hello, I've searched for these but I can't find an answer:

Screen, as configured by default, uses   two switch windows,
but this is annoying since it blocks tab completion for the shell and
I can't find anything in the documentation about how to turn this off
(or even that this binding exists).

Also, when sshing under screen to another machine (running RedHat,
unfortunately) the erase character turns (don't know why) into ^H
according to stty -a and this messes less, to fix this I tried to do:

stty erase ^?

but stty -a stills shows erase=^H.

Does anyone knows how to fix either (or better:  both!) of these
problems.


TIA,

jorge


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Re: screen messing with tab completion and other annoyances

[Travis Crump]

Jorge Santos wrote:
Hello, I've searched for these but I can't find an answer:
Screen, as configured by default, uses   two switch windows,
but this is annoying since it blocks tab completion for the shell and
I can't find anything in the documentation about how to turn this off
(or even that this binding exists).
Huh?  Screen by default uses  to switch windows[at least 
in english/C]



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Re: Making a route change persistent in Debian

[John Summerfield]

Tony Uceda Velez wrote:
How do you make a route change persistent in Debian?  Is there a comparable
tool like yast or a route.conf file?

man interfaces

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RE: Making a route change persistent in Debian

[Steven Jones]

open,

/etc/network/interfaces 

add something like,

up route add -net 172.16.0.0 netmask 255.255.0.0 gw 192.168.1.2
down route del -net 172.16.0.0 netmask 255.255.0.0 gw 192.168.1.2

see this page for an example,

http://www.thing.dyndns.org/debian/setup2b.htm

regards

thing

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Tony Uceda Velez wrote:

>How do you make a route change persistent in Debian?  Is there a comparable
>tool like yast or a route.conf file?
>
>
man interfaces



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Re: Packages needed for Cups Foomatic printer

[Wayne Topa]

Tong([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
> On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 20:46:31 -0400, Jason Rennie wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Aug 11, 2004 at 07:51:33PM -0400, Tong wrote:
> >> Here are all the relevant packages that I have installed:
> >> 
> >> cupsys
> >> cupsys-bsd
> >> cupsys-client
> >> foomatic-db
> >> foomatic-db-engine
> >> foomatic-db-hpijs
> >> foomatic-filters
> >> foomatic-gui
> >> hpijs
> >> libcupsimage2
> >> libcupsys2-gnutls10
> >> libusb-0.1-4
> > 
> > I'm no Debian CUPS expert, but I have CUPS up-and-running with support
> > for a long list of printers.  Took me some fiddling to find the
> > package that provided driver support, I recall.  Anyway, try
> > installing these packages:
> > 
> > cupsys-driver-gimpprint
> > cupsomatic-ppd
> > foomatic-db-gimp-print
> > 
> 
> Thanks, Jason,
> 
> tcupsys-driver-gimpprin is the magic package that added  a long
> list of printer drivers. But unfortunately, no driver for "Foomatic +
> hpijs (recommended)". In fact, I tried everyone of them, none does. 
> 
Try this
foomatic-db-hpijs

~# dpkg -S /usr/share/foomatic/db/source/driver/hpijs.xml
foomatic-db-hpijs: /usr/share/foomatic/db/source/driver/hpijs.xml

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