Re: Locale problems on 2.6.2 bootup

[s. keeling]

Incoming from Robert F Merrill:
> David Baron wrote:
> 
> >Get error from "locale": Unable to set   no such directory.
> >Three items: LC_TYPE, LC_MESSAGES, LC_ALL.
> >
> >Had not heard of these previously. LANG is the only locale-keyword set in 
> >env. All the others in shown in the "man" for locale are not set. The 
> >above are not cited. Note that KDE has its own localizations but these are 
> >not exported, apparently.
> 
> I get this too... quick grep in /etc/init.d for LC_TYPE comes up blank. 
> What does this, bash?

Of course.  In a raw session, type "set" and see what's there.  If you
didn't do it, it's probably coming from /etc/profile

See the files /etc/locale.(alias|gen), fiddle with them if you must,
then run "locale-gen" and maybe "dpkg-reconfigure locales".  The root
acct. should be left locale "C", but you can choose anything that
makes sense for user sessions.


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Re: cdrecord and kernel 2.4 problem

[John L Fjellstad]

What's actually the problem?

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Re: restoring /var/cache/apt/archives contents

[Andreas Janssen]

Hello

Antonio Rodriguez (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

> I have used in the past apt-move to create a local mirror. I usually
> like to keep archives with the debs, in case I need to reinstall them
> and they are gone from the archives, after being replaced by new
> versions. At this point I would like better to just restore all the
> debs that have been deleted by my careless accepting the default in
> dselect. I would like to hear opinions about the best options here.
> dpkg set selections followed by some aptget download only...

Something like

dpkg --get-selections | cut -f1 |\
xargs apt-get -y --download-only --reinstall install

should download the packages you need. It will not download packages
that would be installed from any local sources, although apt may ask
you to insert some CD.

best regards
Andreas Janssen

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Re: howto serialize tasks in .xsession

[Nano Nano]

On Sun, Feb 29, 2004 at 02:09:17AM -0500, Gregory Seidman wrote:
> ... A better
> way is to use a spinlock wrapped around lsof or netstat right after the
> gnome-settings-daemon call (note that calling it without any arguments
> works at least as well):
> 
> #...
> gnome-settings-daemon &
> GSDPID=$!
> while lsof -u$USER | awk 'BEGIN { found = 0; }
>   ($2 == "'$GSDPID'") && ($8 ~ /orbit-'$USER'/) { found = 1; next }
>   END { exit found }'
> do
>   sleep 1
> done
> sleep 1
> #...
> 

This works.  Thanks!
I'll grok it later.

I never really understood awk (still don't); it's nice to have a useful 
example.


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Re: LILO

[Alexis Huxley]

> my lilo seems to be screwed up, it
> boots and I get some OS/2 thing, I even tried reinstalling debian from net,
> it ejects the disk and reboots and same thing.  What do I do?

You're not giving potential helpers much to go on! :-) What's in your 
/etc/lilo.conf? What commands did you run that produced an error? What 
was the error message you got?

> How can I edit LILO or 

"vi /etc/lilo.conf" maybe? 

> erase the mbr or something so I can start all over?

I don't think you can *erase* it, you can only overwrite it, by, for
example, running "lilo".

Alexis


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Re: cdrecord and kernel 2.4 problem

[Nejc Novak]

John L Fjellstad wrote:

What's actually the problem?

This is the problem. But i don't know what's wrang. According to the 
cd-writing howto all modules are loaded properly. But i still get this 
error. I believe it has something to do with running 2.4 kernel on 
debian stable.

Starting new track at sector: 0
Track 01:   9 of 699 MB written (fifo  98%).cdrecord: Input/output 
error. write_g1: scsi sendcmd: no error
CDB:  2A 00 00 00 12 49 00 00 1F 00
status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION)
Sense Bytes: 70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 24 00 00 00
Sense Key: 0x5 Illegal Request, Segment 0
Sense Code: 0x24 Qual 0x00 (invalid field in cdb) Fru 0x0
Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid)
cmd finished after 0.001s timeout 40s

write track data: error after 9586688 bytes
Sense Bytes: 70 00 00 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
Writing  time:   37.591s
Fixating...
WARNING: Some drives don't like fixation in dummy mode.
Fixating time:   19.739s
cdrecord: fifo had 215 puts and 152 gets.
cdrecord: fifo was 0 times empty and 107 times full, min fill was 95%.
Thank you for your help.

Nejc

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Re: arecord ?

[Alexis Huxley]

> I have an ISA card CS4236, using ALSA driver-latest one,  which otherwise works
> fine, the microphone does work fine, but can't make any sound-recording program
> to work with it - ecasound, arecord.
>
> Both programs generate output, programs end recording fine, but no sound
> is recorded.
>
> Is there some sort of setting order sound-record to work ?

Is the mic muted? 'tkmixer' is quite a nice little mixer program to
check these things with.

Can you record from other sources? What about if you set the recording
source (using 'tkmixer') to be under the 'Vol' button? i.e. you're
record the mixed input rather than directly from one of the unmixed
sources?

What command are you using to record? What's the complete command
line? What's the output? If you run 'file '
what does it say?

Alexis


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Re: Locale problems on 2.6.2 bootup

[Mario Vukelic]

On Sun, 2004-02-29 at 01:09 -0700, s. keeling wrote:

> If you didn't do it, it's probably coming from /etc/profile

Or /etc/environment


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Re: Reconfiguring internal clock

[Brian Brazil]

On Sat, Feb 28, 2004 at 09:51:33PM -0700, s. keeling wrote:
> Incoming from Brian Brazil:
> > I believe the relavent file is /etc/adjtime.

I was wrong there. Looking at ye olde /etc/init.d/hwclock(first)?.sh it infers
that /etc/default/rcS is the file. Debian uses this to overide /etc/adjtime
for its time-related boot scripts from my reading of them.

> I think adjtime is intended for managing clock drift, though I see
> from catting it, it does have "UTC" in it.  Hmm ...

This selects --localtime or --utc for hwclock if not specified, according
to the man page. The other possible value is 'LOCAL'. hwclock --adjtime
will do clock drift stuff based on this file.

Base-config appears to alter rcS but not adjtime. 

>From this my interpretation is that as long as you aren't messing around
with hwclock(outside of the boot scripts) only rcS needs to be right.

Brian


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RE: Install debian on raid system

[Ron Rademaker]

I got it working :)
I found a partial open source driver somewhere and used that one with an
2.4.25 kernel. I used the rescue disks from woody (replaced the kernel) and
created an initrd procedure to get the thing booted.

Thanks!

-Original Message-
From: Justin Guerin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: vrijdag 27 februari 2004 18:45
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Install debian on raid system

On Friday 27 February 2004 08:21, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hello everybody,
>
> I'm trying to install debian on a raid system (Promise FastTrak s150 
> sx with 3 SATA drives), I downloaded the netinstall iso and tried 
> installing. Unfortunately the drivers for the raid card aren't there 
> and I don't seem te be able to find them anywhere on the net (except 
> for RH and SUSE). Could anyone please help as I'm completely stuck right
now?
> Thanks!
>
> Ron
>
> PS. Could you please cc any replies to me?

Hi Ron,

I don't know if support for your card is included in the kernel, but it
doesn't seem to be.  Someone else can correct me if I'm wrong.

Regardless, since there's a Linux driver, you can get this to run.  You've
got some work ahead of you, though.  First, grab the drivers for either RH
or SuSE.  Also, grab the kernel source for the distribution you choose. At
this point, you might want to apply the Debian kernel patches, but caveat
emptor, as I don't know if this would be enough to break the kernel version
so that the driver won't load.  I don't think so, but I've never tried.  
Compile the kernel, and follow the Debian installation instructions for
replacing the rescue / boot kernel with a custom kernel.  Place the
FastTrack driver on a driver floppy, also as per the Debian install
instructions.  Boot using your custom kernel, and load the driver off the
floppy.  From there, proceed as normal.  Don't forget to complain to the
card manufacturer for not releasing driver sources. ;-) Note that you will
be stuck using the version of the kernel the card vendor supports.

I'm not sure how different kernel versions can be before modules will stop
loading, but you _might_ be able to make the module load with a Debian
kernel, if you start with the right kernel version (It seems that your card
is supported for 2.4.18 and 2.4.20.).  The 2.4.18-bf24 kernel might work,
but I don't know.  Let us know how it goes.

Justin Guerin


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Re: cdrecord and kernel 2.4 problem

[Hanno Böttcher]

Nejc Novak wrote:

John L Fjellstad wrote:

What's actually the problem?

This is the problem. But i don't know what's wrang. According to the 
cd-writing howto all modules are loaded properly. But i still get this 
error. I believe it has something to do with running 2.4 kernel on 
debian stable.

Starting new track at sector: 0
Track 01:   9 of 699 MB written (fifo  98%).cdrecord: Input/output 
error. write_g1: scsi sendcmd: no error
CDB:  2A 00 00 00 12 49 00 00 1F 00
status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION)
Sense Bytes: 70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 24 00 00 00
Sense Key: 0x5 Illegal Request, Segment 0
Sense Code: 0x24 Qual 0x00 (invalid field in cdb) Fru 0x0
Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid)
cmd finished after 0.001s timeout 40s

write track data: error after 9586688 bytes
Sense Bytes: 70 00 00 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
Writing  time:   37.591s
Fixating...
WARNING: Some drives don't like fixation in dummy mode.
Fixating time:   19.739s
cdrecord: fifo had 215 puts and 152 gets.
cdrecord: fifo was 0 times empty and 107 times full, min fill was 95%.
Thank you for your help.

Nejc


I'm just speculating, but are you sure you got the right driver used? 
AFAIK it's possible that you need to explicitly define the driver to 
use, if he's incapable of autorecognizing itself? Or maybe he's trying 
the wrong one?
Are you sure there is no other program/process accesing the drive while 
burning?
Did you read the cdrecord manpage about drivers? Maybe there are some 
compatibility lists arround, google for them.

I hope I got you an idea, the exact problem I can't tell either.



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Re: LILO

[Toshiro]

On Sunday 29 February 2004 00:10, MacNean Tyrrell wrote:
> my lilo seems to be screwed up, it
> boots and I get some OS/2 thing, I even tried reinstalling debian from net,
> it ejects the disk and reboots and same thing.  What do I do?
>
> How can I edit LILO or erase the mbr or something so I can start all over?


You could try disabling antivirus checking in the BIOS.


Toshiro.


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networkprinting/cups

[ijbd]

Hi,

my desktop has an HP-720C, which works fine on cups locally.
If I use KDE menu Settings/Printing Manager, I can open a printer wizard 
offering me all kind of things (to be able to push prints to the LAN I 
think, I want to pull them from the LAN).
Do I need to do something here to make the desktop a network print server?

After startup of my LAN connected laptop, I get with the same menu item 
"unable to retrieve printerlist".
After "OK", no wizard. Did "/etc/init.d/cupsys restart" .
After that the printing manager has no errors, but offers the 
pseudoprinters only, again no wizard.
Debconf cupsys only asks about printing unknown mime's as raw.

The systems are both Debian Sarge and afaik 99% default. Did bastille on 
them.
Same packages as far as related to cups.
The computers have a common switch/ADSL router to internet, using DHCP.
Works fine towards the internet and vv. Local pinging and SSH works.

Aha, /etc/initd.conf enabled imaps and pop3 only so I removed the #in
#printer stream tcp nowait lp /usr/lib/cups/daemon/cups-lpd cups-lpd
and restarted initd on both machines. Probably only required on the desktop.
No improvement, what more to do?

mvg Boudewijn

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Re: help apt upgrade issue

[Colin]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am running a debian woody mixing stable and testing and very random few
unstable packages with the 2.4.24 kernel.  I just did an apt-get -u
dist-upgrade and there was a couple upgrades none seemed very significant
but it bombed out at the end. Now it bombs out everytime i do an upgrade
and a couple things seem broken like my openoffice stopped working.  Seems
to be a conflict with the xlibmesa3 upgrade and my existing libGLU.so.1.3
package?
Here is the output:
S# apt-get -u dist-upgrade
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Calculating Upgrade... Done
The following packages have been kept back:
  scrollkeeper
The following packages will be upgraded:
  xlibmesa3
1 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
Need to get 0B/3423kB of archives.
After unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n]
(Reading database ... 61643 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace xlibmesa3 4.1.0-16woody1 (using
.../xlibmesa3_4.1.0-16woody3_i386.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement xlibmesa3 ...
dpkg: error processing
/var/cache/apt/archives/xlibmesa3_4.1.0-16woody3_i386.deb (--unpack):
 trying to overwrite `/usr/X11R6/lib/libGLU.so.1.3', which is also in
package xlibmesa3-glu
dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
Errors were encountered while processing:
 /var/cache/apt/archives/xlibmesa3_4.1.0-16woody3_i386.deb
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
It sounds like you have to force the install like (one line):

dpkg -i --force-overwrite 
/var/cache/apt/archives/xlibmesa3_4.1.0-16woody3_i386.deb

as root

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Re: Exim4 and Message could not be sent because its size exceeded the server's limit

[Charlie Grosvenor]

Its my server that is rejecting it as it is rejecting it the moment I try
and send it. Any ideas how I can stop it doing this?

Charlie
- Original Message - 
From: "Peter A. Cole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, February 29, 2004 12:49 AM
Subject: Re: Exim4 and Message could not be sent because its size exceeded
the server's limit


> On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 21:48:53 +
> Charlie Grosvenor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I have just upgraded to exim4 and now I cannot send large messages
(50mb), I
> > have increased the limit in the file:
> >
> > /etc/exim4/conf.d/main/01_exim4-config_listmacrosdefs
> >
> > MESSAGE_SIZE_LIMIT = 1000M
> >
> > and updated the main configuration file update-exim4.conf and restarted
exim
> > and it makes no difference. How do I go about getting rid of this limit?
> >
> > Thank you
> >
> Hi Charlie,
>
> It may not be your server rejecting the message, unless of course it's
rejecting the instant you try to send it.
>
> Generally, most servers don't allow messages above 3, 5, or 10MB due to
the load it imposes on the server.
>
> The size of the email you are trying to send is huge, can you not break it
up a bit?
>
> I manage mail servers in a Windows environment at work (so my Linux mail
server knowledge is quite limited) and I am constantly having to explain to
users why 50, 100, 500MB email messages are not being sent or received.
>
> Pete
>
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Re: Exim4 and Message could not be sent because its size exceeded the server's limit

[Charlie Grosvenor]

Its my server that is rejecting it as it is rejecting it the moment I try
and send it. Any ideas how I can stop it doing this?

Charlie
- Original Message - 
From: "Peter A. Cole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, February 29, 2004 12:49 AM
Subject: Re: Exim4 and Message could not be sent because its size exceeded
the server's limit


> On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 21:48:53 +
> Charlie Grosvenor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I have just upgraded to exim4 and now I cannot send large messages
(50mb), I
> > have increased the limit in the file:
> >
> > /etc/exim4/conf.d/main/01_exim4-config_listmacrosdefs
> >
> > MESSAGE_SIZE_LIMIT = 1000M
> >
> > and updated the main configuration file update-exim4.conf and restarted
exim
> > and it makes no difference. How do I go about getting rid of this limit?
> >
> > Thank you
> >
> Hi Charlie,
>
> It may not be your server rejecting the message, unless of course it's
rejecting the instant you try to send it.
>
> Generally, most servers don't allow messages above 3, 5, or 10MB due to
the load it imposes on the server.
>
> The size of the email you are trying to send is huge, can you not break it
up a bit?
>
> I manage mail servers in a Windows environment at work (so my Linux mail
server knowledge is quite limited) and I am constantly having to explain to
users why 50, 100, 500MB email messages are not being sent or received.
>
> Pete
>
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Re: via-rhine (or rhinefelt) and VT6105/VT6103 driver problems with Debian stable

[Nick Jacobs]

I also needed to use the via-rhine driver with
Woody. I used the one from the Scyld site. There
are some minor things to fix but basically the
Scyld driver will solve your problems.

To compile a driver, you need to install the kernel
headers, using dselect for example. If you have the
latest Woody, the package to install is probably
kernel-headers-2.4.18-bf2.4, but check your
kernel version by uname -a.

If you've installed the correct kernel headers
and still can't build the via-rhine driver,
post the detailed error message and I'll
try to help you. But I can reassure you that
basically this is going to work, because I've
done it.

Regards
Nick Jacobs
--- Chris Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I hope I can get some help on this list as I've dug
> myself in a hole 
> I think.
> 
> I run debian stable (3.0r2) for a small home set up
> on ADSL that 
> handles Email (closed opt in!) for some charities.
> I've used old 
> hardware for a firewall and a server but the
> firewall is dying and I 
> replaced it with a lovely, small, near silent box
> with a VIA EPIA 
> mini-ITX motherboard which has two LAN ports
> controlled by a VT6105 
> on board controller.  If I stick a tried and tested
> realtek 8139 
> clone PCI card in I can have the three ports I want
> 
> 
> Having always used old hardware and never hit
> compatibility problems 
> I didn't realise I was asking for trouble.  The
> 2.4.18 kernel is the 
> latest in the Debian stable distro and I want to
> stick with Debian 
> 'cos I know and trust it, and stable 'cos of the
> security updates, 
> particularly important as this is firewall.  Trouble
> is that I think 
> the driver I need is a via-rhine one but the one
> that comes with that 
> Debian kernel won't install (the rtl one does
> fine!).  I've tried 
> pulling the driver (rhinefet) off the VIA
> motherboard site and the 
> via-rhine off the scyld site but I'm hopelessly out
> of my depth now 
> as there are clearly old and vexatious issues about
> the ways that 
> different distros store the headers and source, e.g.
> both VIA and 
> scyld's Makefiles and source want a modversions.h
> file that clearly 
> doesn't exist in Debian .. I've tried to work round
> that but modprobe 
> on the via-rhine.o I finally produced gives all
> sorts of unresolved 
> symbol complaints and I know I'm out of my league
> here.
> 
> Can anyone help?  The only alternative I can see
> looming is to spend 
> about a third as much as I paid for the entire
> machine on a totally 
> unnecessarily fast quadport Intel card (I need three
> ports and only 
> have one free PCI slot as the machine is so small).
> 
> Sod, sod, sod: I'll take hardware compatibility more
> seriously in 
> future won't I?!
> 
> TIA,
> 
> Chris
> 
> P.S. Copying to debian-user for archive record if
> nothing else, 
> though similar question has twice drawn blank there
> beforePSYCTC: 
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Re: Can't login to RXVT in X

[Lance Hoffmeyer]

I can log into the console with no problem.  The error
message I get appears when I try and open a terminal in 
X.  It appears as a seperate pop-up.

Lance

> * Lance Hoffmeyer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [040227 10:15]:
> > I upgraded X the other day from Unstable and now
> > I cannot open multi-gnome terminal or any other
> > terminal.  Keep getting the error:
> > 
> > There has been an error while trying to login.
> > 
> 
> Where does this message appear?
> 
> Does logging in at the console work?
> 
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Re: Lightweight Alternative to Mozilla-Firebird

[S.D.A.]

On Sun, Feb 29, 2004 at 09:30:12AM +1000 or thereabouts, Peter A. Cole wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 12:57:01 -0500
> "S.D.A." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > No it doesn't thread the processes. In other words one can't do anything
> > while one is downloading e-mail. The application is locked, until that
> > I/O finishes.
> 
> Ahh ok, in that case this situation has been resolved. I can receive email while 
> viewing messages, replying, etc. with no dramas at all, unless you manually hit the 
> "Get" or "Get All" buttons. If you let it retrieve mail in the background, there's 
> no interference that I can see.

Yeah really?! You can read/write an e-mail while Sylpheed is pulling
down mesages? Cool -- not being able to b4 is the primary reason I 
left it, for Mozilla.

I liked it's ability to reply with higlighted material quoted.
That's something Mozilla/Thunderbird haven't implemented yet.

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Re: howto serialize tasks in .xsession

[Greg Folkert]

On Sun, 2004-02-29 at 02:09, Gregory Seidman wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 28, 2004 at 03:50:17PM -0800, Nano Nano wrote:
> } I run a hybrid desktop: gnome-control-center is installed, but not 
> } metacity.  Fluxbox is my WM; but I remove gnome-session as a Session 
> } Manager so I have No Session Manager.  Here is my .xsession:
> } 
> } #!/bin/sh
> } ARGS="--hide-menubar --window-with-profile=Default"
> } #gnome-control-center
> } gnome-settings-daemon --oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:GNOME_SettingsDaemon 
> --oaf-ior-fd=21 &
> } xscreensaver -nosplash &
> } kdeinit &
>   ( sleep 5
> } gbuffy &
> } #xmms &
> } gnome-terminal $ARGS --geometry=80x25+1+22 &
> } gnome-terminal $ARGS --geometry=95x25+582+22 &
> } gnome-terminal $ARGS --geometry=80x40+1+418 &
> } gnome-terminal $ARGS --geometry=95x40+582+418 &
>   )
> } exec fluxbox
> [...]
> } The problem is if gbuffy or gnome-terminal starts before 
> } gnome-settings-daemon, themes and various gnome-ish things are broken.  
> } It's a classic race conditions.
> } 
> } How can I serialize the tasks?  Remember, none can block.  
> } gnome-settings-daemon doesn't return.
> 
> Note the two added lines above. This is the simplest way to deal with
> that sort of thing. Adjust the length of the sleep to taste. A better
> way is to use a spinlock wrapped around lsof or netstat right after the
> gnome-settings-daemon call (note that calling it without any arguments
> works at least as well):
> 
> #...
> gnome-settings-daemon &
> GSDPID=$!
> while lsof -u$USER | awk 'BEGIN { found = 0; }
>   ($2 == "'$GSDPID'") && ($8 ~ /orbit-'$USER'/) { found = 1; next }
>   END { exit found }'
> do
>   sleep 1
> done
> sleep 1
> #...
> 
> This will run lsof once a second until gnome-settings-daemon has set up
> its unix socket, then sleep one extra second for safety, then proceed.
> Note that it uses the pid gnome-settings-daemon started with, so other
> instances of the daemon will be ignored.

Thanks... sometimes it pays to not go the ugly hack route. Nicely done.
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Re: Fetchmail Query

[Oliver Fuchs]

On Sun, 29 Feb 2004, Peter A. Cole wrote:

> Hi again Oliver,
> 
> I've added the first part you suggested above and double checked the readme file to 
> ensure my syntax was correct, but it's still leaving the message in my mailbox at 
> the ISP with the same NDR message.

1) Did you recreate the sendmail.cf file with e.g. sendmailconfig.

> Do I also have to add the second item you suggested? It seems unrelated to me...

2) No I only have the feature added to my sendmail.mc.

3) In my .fetchmailrc I have at the beginning this options:

[...]
set bouncemail
set spambounce
set properties ""
[...]


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Re: Backup my Debian woody system

[Oliver Fuchs]

On Thu, 26 Feb 2004, Monique Y. Herman wrote:

> On 2004-02-26, Oliver Fuchs penned:
> >
> > What I want: I want to know if my backup strategy is working this way
> > or if there is a better solution?
> >
> > So ... any help/advice/documentation is appreciated.
> >
> 
> It kind of depends on whether you want to spend money on this backup.
> 
> Me, I bought a large hard drive and a usb drive enclosure.  When I want
> to backup my machines, I plug in the drive and use rsync to back up
> everything I care about.  The nice thing about rsync is that it is smart
> about only updating files that have changed (or have changed location).
> 

Hi,

thank you for answering ... this seems to be a good idea and I will try it. But
at the moment I want to backup my debian system via NFS and Free-BSD.

If this one fails I think I have to investigate and do it your way.

So thanx again

Oliver
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[Solved] Re: debuilding gcc-3.3 and doxygen

[csj]

On 28. February 2004 at 11:30AM +0100,
"J.H.M. Dassen (Ray)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Thu, Feb 26, 2004 at 21:02:41 +0800, csj wrote:
> > I see a doxygen *++-related bug, but so far the version of
> > doxygen in unstable is still the same as the one in testing.
> 
> Around the time you wrote this, there was a new version of
> doxygen uploaded by the gcc maintainer as a non-maintainer
> upload; that version (1.3.6.20040222-0.1) is now in unstable;
> its changelog includes "Fixing termination problems in 1.3.5
> and 1.3.6 (closes: #232598)."

Ya, that fixed it.


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Re: Back to woody!

[David]

On Sat, Feb 28, 2004 at 03:37:06PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> I'm a relatively new user who has been learning Linux and Debian by experimenting 
> with a test machine I've set up. Like many newbies, I've gone in over my 
> head--installing backports, trying my hand at compiling my own kernel, etc.
> 
> I've now hosed things a bit in a couple of places, and I'd like to start afresh with 
> a perfectly clean woody installation--wiping out all of my config files, 
> reinstalling all packages from stable debs. 
> 
> Is there a good way to do this, short of reinstalling from scratch?
> 
> In short, what I want to do is "apt-get 
> make-debian-look-the-way-it-did-right-after-I-finished-installing" or something 
> similar.

If that's all you want to do, then why not just do a fresh reinstall?  
> 
> Is such a magic bullet possible, or should I just go ahead and reinstall? (This is a 
> test machine, so there's nothing too critical on it--just a few 10s of gigs of MP3 
> files I'd have to reload.)
> 

Oh... I see... this is when it's handy to have a partition to move them
to.  There are some nice linux based GUI HD re-partition programs out
there.  I'm sure it can all be done "by hand" but if you're a newbie
(like I am) then why not go with what works for now...

Anywya.. I once had a situation like yours and what I did was actually
threw in a Mandrake 9.0 installation disk, rebooted, resized the
partitions, then rebooted - prior to actually installing Mandrake. 
It has a really nice re-partitioning scheme that allows you to resize 
partitions without loosing data on existing partitions, but obviously 
you don't want to complete the installation.

> Thanks,
> 
> Charles.
> 
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Re: New paradigm for Linux distributions?

[David Clymer]

On Sat, 2004-02-28 at 15:50, Joel Konkle-Parker wrote:
> I posted a small article on a possible future for Linux distributions: 
> http://ballsome.com
> 
> Thoughts?
> 

Perhaps I'm just dense, but what's new here? To me, Ian's "plan" sounds
like a fairly good description of debian with "lets all use the same
package format" thrown in (another old idea). How is debian NOT
componentized? Doesn't debian already have a repository of packages
based on apt? Doesnt debian already support the installation of a "core"
system, and then allow one to download any specific components/software
one needs?

I'm not saying that any of this is a bad idea, but why start another
project when one can get the same thing by just using debian?

Perhaps others can tell me what it is about these concepts that I'm
missing.

-davidc


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gpg & mutt

[S.D.A.]

I'm having some difficulty getting pgp to work with mutt (1.5.6).

The problem I'm having is that mutt can't seem to find my keys. I've
been reading the Fine Manual, but it doesn't really go into, this is how
one does this...for PGP/GPG anyway.

FWIW, when I attempt to sign, this is echo'ed " Can't sign: No key
specified. use sign(as)"

OK, so when I attempt to sign(as) this is echo'ed "/.index: No such file
or directory (errno = 2)"

Suggestions appreciated. I have created my keys and they're in the
default location.


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RE: LILO

[MacNean Tyrrell]

I don't think I made a rescue disk.  Am I totally screwed?

-Original Message-
From: Patrick Lesslie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2004 11:24 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: LILO

On Sat, Feb 28, 2004 at 10:10:29PM -0500, MacNean Tyrrell wrote:
> my lilo seems to be screwed up, it
> boots and I get some OS/2 thing, I even tried reinstalling debian from
net,
> it ejects the disk and reboots and same thing.  What do I do?

Do you mean you can't boot from a rescue disk?  If you can, you'll
be able to work on the MBR.

Have a look in your BIOS to make sure it's setup to boot from floppy,
or better from CD, and that there isn't anything screwy going on.

Also you could send more specific information on what you have tried
and exactly what happened when you tried it.

> How can I edit LILO or erase the mbr or something so I can start all over?

Once you can boot from a rescue disk with root=/dev/hda1 or similar
you'll be able to edit lilo and run it.  There are other ways too,
but first try a rescue floppy or CD until you can boot linux.

best of luck,
Patrick Lesslie


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phpgroupware doesn't install

[Rich Johnson]

I just tried installing phpgroupware for the first time.  apt-get/dpkg 
asked all the questions and apparently exited without setting things up.

No phpgroupware was added to the MySQL databases.
No references to /etc/phpgroupware/apache.conf were added to 
/etc/apache/httpd.conf

What gives?  Where did the process go off the rails?  I couldn't find 
anything in the mailing archives.

Thanks,
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Re: gpg & mutt

[Elimar Riesebieter]

On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 the mental interface of 
S.D.A. told:

> I'm having some difficulty getting pgp to work with mutt (1.5.6).
> 
> The problem I'm having is that mutt can't seem to find my keys. I've
> been reading the Fine Manual, but it doesn't really go into, this is how
> one does this...for PGP/GPG anyway.
> 
> FWIW, when I attempt to sign, this is echo'ed " Can't sign: No key
> specified. use sign(as)"

Is your default key defined  in ~/.gnupg/options ?

Ciao

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Re: LILO

[Kent West]

On Sat, Feb 28, 2004 at 10:10:29PM -0500, MacNean Tyrrell wrote:

my lilo seems to be screwed up, it
boots and I get some OS/2 thing, I even tried reinstalling debian from
 

net,

it ejects the disk and reboots and same thing.  What do I do?

MacNean Tyrrell wrote:

I don't think I made a rescue disk.  Am I totally screwed?
 

No. Boot up off your installer CD, go through the installation as far as 
mounting / and /usr, but DO NOT partition/initialize (skip those steps). 
Then shell out via Alt-F2. Run "chroot /target". Now you can edit 
/etc/lilo.conf to fix whatever problems it has, then run "lilo". "exit", 
Alt-F1 back to the installer, choose "Reboot system" and remove the 
installer CD. Hopefully you're now fixed. If not, provide more info 
(error messages, etc) (and please, don't top post).

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Re: gpg & mutt

[s. keeling]

Incoming from S.D.A.:
> I'm having some difficulty getting pgp to work with mutt (1.5.6).
.^^^

pgp or gpg?  My mutt is 1.3.28i (Woody).  gpg (GnuPG) 1.2.2

> The problem I'm having is that mutt can't seem to find my keys. I've

Do you have "gpa"?  That's a cute little gui for managing keys.
Perhaps that's where you say which is your default?  Anyway, all my
gpg stuff is in ~/.gnupg, and how it all works is defined in
~/.gnupg/options.  In mutt, I have these (all fairly stock, from
/etc/Muttrc):

   
set pgp_decode_command="/usr/bin/gpg   --status-fd=2 %?p?--passphrase-fd 0? 
--no-verbose --quiet  --batch  --output - %f"
set pgp_verify_command="/usr/bin/gpg   --status-fd=2 --no-verbose --quiet  --batch  
--output - --verify %s %f"
set pgp_decrypt_command="/usr/bin/gpg   --status-fd=2 --passphrase-fd 0 --no-verbose 
--quiet  --batch  --output - %f"
set pgp_sign_command="/usr/bin/gpg--no-verbose --batch --quiet   --output - 
--passphrase-fd 0 --armor --detach-sign --textmode %?a?-u %a? %f"
set pgp_clearsign_command="/usr/bin/gpg   --no-verbose --batch --quiet   --output - 
--passphrase-fd 0 --armor --textmode --clearsign %?a?-u %a? %f"
set pgp_encrypt_only_command="/usr/lib/mutt/pgpewrap /usr/bin/gpg--batch  --quiet  
--no-verbose --output - --encrypt --textmode --armor --always-trust -- -r %r -- %f"
set pgp_encrypt_sign_command="/usr/lib/mutt/pgpewrap /usr/bin/gpg  --passphrase-fd 0  
--batch --quiet  --no-verbose  --textmode --output - --encrypt --sign %?a?-u %a? 
--armor --always-trust -- -r %r -- %f"
set pgp_import_command="/usr/bin/gpg  --no-verbose --import -v %f"
set pgp_export_command="/usr/bin/gpg   --no-verbose --export --armor %r"
set pgp_verify_key_command="/usr/bin/gpg   --verbose --batch  --fingerprint 
--check-sigs %r"
set pgp_list_pubring_command="/usr/bin/gpg   --no-verbose --batch --quiet   
--with-colons --list-keys %r" 
set pgp_list_secring_command="/usr/bin/gpg   --no-verbose --batch --quiet   
--with-colons --list-secret-keys %r" 
set pgp_good_sign="^\\[GNUPG:\\] VALIDSIG"
message-hook '!(~g|~G) ~b"^-BEGIN\ PGP\ (SIGNED\ )?MESSAGE"' "exec 
check-traditional-pgp"
set pgp_autosign=no
set pgp_replyencrypt=yes
set pgp_timeout=1800
set pgp_create_traditional=ask-no
   

> been reading the Fine Manual, but it doesn't really go into, this is how
> one does this...for PGP/GPG anyway.
> 
> FWIW, when I attempt to sign, this is echo'ed " Can't sign: No key
> specified. use sign(as)"
> 
> OK, so when I attempt to sign(as) this is echo'ed "/.index: No such file
> or directory (errno = 2)"
> 
> Suggestions appreciated. I have created my keys and they're in the
> default location.
> 
> 

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Re: LILO

[s. keeling]

Incoming from MacNean Tyrrell:
> I don't think I made a rescue disk.  Am I totally screwed?

No, if you have a bootable CD, you can fix it with that.  Boot from it
and say "linux single", then fix, run lilo, reboot.


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Re: gpg & mutt

[s. keeling]

Incoming from Elimar Riesebieter:
> On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 the mental interface of 
> S.D.A. told:
> 
> > I'm having some difficulty getting pgp to work with mutt (1.5.6).
> > 
> > The problem I'm having is that mutt can't seem to find my keys. I've
> > been reading the Fine Manual, but it doesn't really go into, this is how
> > one does this...for PGP/GPG anyway.
> > 
> > FWIW, when I attempt to sign, this is echo'ed " Can't sign: No key
> > specified. use sign(as)"
> 
> Is your default key defined  in ~/.gnupg/options ?

fwiw, mine isn't (I've been told you probably don't want this) and
mine works.


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RE: LILO

[Andreas Janssen]

Hello

MacNean Tyrrell (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

> I don't think I made a rescue disk.  Am I totally screwed?

You can still boot using one of the Debian CDs.

best regards
Andreas Janssen

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Distributed Jukeboxes for LAN

[Bill Moseley]

Just looking for suggestions on a distributed jukebox for mostly audio
files for my home lan.  There seems to be a few available but wanted to
see if anyone here has a favorite.

Anyone using http://www.theory.org/software/djukebox/ ?

My current setup is a browser setup that runs xmms --enqueue, but my 
playlists are hand edited.  Rather basic.


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Re: arecord ?

[Florentin Ionescu]

On Sun, 29 Feb 2004, Alexis Huxley wrote :

» Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 10:32:21 + (UTC)
» From: Alexis Huxley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
» To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
» Subject: Re: arecord ?
» Resent-Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 04:49:04 -0600 (CST)
» Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
»
» > I have an ISA card CS4236, using ALSA driver-latest one,  which otherwise works
» > fine, the microphone does work fine, but can't make any sound-recording program
» > to work with it - ecasound, arecord.
» >
» > Both programs generate output, programs end recording fine, but no sound
» > is recorded.
» >
» > Is there some sort of setting order sound-record to work ?
»
» Is the mic muted? 'tkmixer' is quite a nice little mixer program to
» check these things with.
»
» Can you record from other sources? What about if you set the recording
» source (using 'tkmixer') to be under the 'Vol' button? i.e. you're
» record the mixed input rather than directly from one of the unmixed
» sources?
»
» What command are you using to record? What's the complete command
» line? What's the output? If you run 'file '
» what does it say?
» Alexis

I use alsamixer and mic works, I can use it with gnomemeeting for example.

Command arecord -d 10 -f cd -t wav a.wav

does record a file a.wav but that does not contain any recorded-sound, it's
an empty wav file.

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OT: establish private network (no wires)

[Karsten Bolding]

Hello 

I'm seeking advice on a technical matter. I want to establish a
private (wireless) network in an area of say 5x5 km2. In this area there
are a number of vehicles moving around and each of the vehicles should
constantly - every second - be updated about the position of the other
vehicles (obtained via GPS). In addition to the position other types of
data might need to be exchanged/distributed as well. 
Each of the vehicles will have a laptop onboard which will be used for
processing the information obtained from the other vehicles.
Since it is not possible to cover the area with normal wireless access points 
I'm seeking another carrier of the signal. GSM/GPRS is not really an 
option either due to the cost of having around 25 phones running 24/7. 
Does anybody know of another technical solution which I can use to create 
such a network?


Yours
Karsten

PS: and hopefully the OT does not disturb to much...



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a good mirror to download sarge

[Didier Caamano]

Hello to all:

I'm wondering if any of you know a good mirror, preferably from Canada to
download sarge, the isos or the network image? if the mirror is in the US
I wouldn't mind either.

Thank you very much, have a nice day.
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Re: via-rhine (or rhinefelt) and VT6105/VT6103 driver problems with Debian stable

[Steven Leach]

Which Via board are you running?

I have two set up, a CL6000 Dual Lan for my server and an M1 as a 
little desktop cube.

Debian 3.0r2 had no problem with the M1 (single ethernet) using the 
via-rhine driver.  On the dual lan, however, only eth0 was recognized.  
Upgraded to sid (possibly not necessary but I was planning on it 
anyway) and compiled a 2.6.0-test11 kernel and all was good (oddly 
enough what had been eth0 was now eth1 and the one that had been 
previously unrecognized was now eth0).

Also, the current sarge/sid installers are unusable with the m1 
(never tried it with the cl6000 though) but it is no problem since you 
can just dist-upgrade from Woody.  The Woody installer works 
flawlessly.

Good luck.

On Feb 28, 2004, at 7:14 PM, Chris Evans wrote:

I hope I can get some help on this list as I've dug myself in a hole
I think.
I run debian stable (3.0r2) for a small home set up on ADSL that
handles Email (closed opt in!) for some charities. I've used old
hardware for a firewall and a server but the firewall is dying and I
replaced it with a lovely, small, near silent box with a VIA EPIA
mini-ITX motherboard which has two LAN ports controlled by a VT6105
on board controller.  If I stick a tried and tested realtek 8139
clone PCI card in I can have the three ports I want 
Having always used old hardware and never hit compatibility problems
I didn't realise I was asking for trouble.  The 2.4.18 kernel is the
latest in the Debian stable distro and I want to stick with Debian
'cos I know and trust it, and stable 'cos of the security updates,
particularly important as this is firewall.  Trouble is that I think
the driver I need is a via-rhine one but the one that comes with that
Debian kernel won't install (the rtl one does fine!).  I've tried
pulling the driver (rhinefet) off the VIA motherboard site and the
via-rhine off the scyld site but I'm hopelessly out of my depth now
as there are clearly old and vexatious issues about the ways that
different distros store the headers and source, e.g. both VIA and
scyld's Makefiles and source want a modversions.h file that clearly
doesn't exist in Debian .. I've tried to work round that but modprobe
on the via-rhine.o I finally produced gives all sorts of unresolved
symbol complaints and I know I'm out of my league here.
Can anyone help?  The only alternative I can see looming is to spend
about a third as much as I paid for the entire machine on a totally
unnecessarily fast quadport Intel card (I need three ports and only
have one free PCI slot as the machine is so small).
Sod, sod, sod: I'll take hardware compatibility more seriously in
future won't I?!
TIA,

Chris

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Re: cdrecord and kernel 2.4 problem

[Werner Mahr]

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Am Sonntag, 29. Februar 2004 11:43 schrieb Nejc Novak:

> Fixating...
> WARNING: Some drives don't like fixation in dummy mode.

There is no problme. You simulate only the burn process. And the Program says, 
that some drives don't like this. Try it without the simulate option:

cdrecord: -dummy
cdrdao: simulate

and check if the CD is burned. If not, then you have a problem.

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Re: Kernel 2.6.3 again

[Kai Schindelka]

  Hello Andreas;

Kai Schindelka (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
Ok. My name's not Wes, but I've got some questions anyway. :)
Please start your own thread next time instead of answering a message in
an existing thread.
my apology. I thought it would be the best to keep the topics together,
but I have already read why it's better to do it the other way.
* Is the updating of the above packages really necessary?

From /usr/src/kernel-source-2.6.3/Documentation/changes:
o  Gnu C  2.95.3
o  Gnu make   3.78
o  binutils   2.12
o  util-linux 2.10o
The above packages in Woody are recent enough. util-linux in Woody
however can't handle the new cryptoloop/cryptoapi, so if you want to
use encrypted loopback devices with the drivers included in 2.6,
upgrade util-linux.
Ok, that makes one package more.

o  module-init-tools  0.9.10
o  e2fsprogs  1.29
module-init-tools is not included in Woody, you need it to load modules
for 2.6.
Yes, that's why I had added the backports.org source in the first
place.
The e2fsprogs version in Woody is too old (may keep working
with existing file systems, but maybe you could get problems with new
ext2/ext3 file systems).
Looks like it keeps working with existing ones. I found no problems, but
didn't create new ones either. It's better to upgrade, I'd say.
o  jfsutils   1.1.3
o  reiserfsprogs  3.6.3
o  xfsprogs   2.6.0
o  pcmcia-cs  3.1.21
o  quota-tools3.09
I didn't check the above package, I don't use them.
Same with me.

o  PPP2.4.0

This one is okay.
Thanks.

o  isdn4k-utils   3.1pre1
o  nfs-utils  1.0.5
Didn't check.
Don't need them, but I will keep that in mind.

o  procps 3.1.13

Needs to be upgraded.
Yes, I have read about that.

o  oprofile   0.5.3

Don't know.
Ok.

* Is it sufficient, or did I miss something?
If I compare the lists, you should also upgrade e2fsprogs.
So the complete list would be in my case:

hdparm
e2fsprogs
libsysfs
module-init-tools
net-tools
procps
sysfsutils
util-linux
libsysfs and sysfsutils were mentioned by Pigeon. That is too much for a 
productive environment, since I don't know nothing about possible side 
effects. I'll stick with 2.4.25, but many thanks for your answer anyway.

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RE: Sound and Linux Kernel 2.6

[MacNean Tyrrell]

-Original Message-
From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andreas Janssen
Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2004 5:02 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Sound and Linux Kernel 2.6

Hello

MacNean Tyrrell (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

> Ok so I have Debian installed, and I like it a lot, but I can't get
> the sound card to work, can't even get ALSA to work.  So I decided to
> just run Knoppix from the CD drive, and it successfully detects my
> sound card, and it works there. I really don't want to use Knoppix,
> just want to use Debian sarge. But without sound, kinda not useful
> for some other things I want to do (ie MythTV). So I know that the
> linux kernel 2.6 has ALSA already built in, found a website that
> walked me through it but it didn't work. I reboot and LILO is really
> screwed up.  Anyone have some suggestions. Especially how to update
> sarge to kernel 2.6.  Thanks and would appreciate it.
>
> -DarDack
>
> btw I do have a supported sound card, esnoiqs 1370, snd-es1370 (or
> ens1370 can't remember right now). In debian if I click on the sound
> icon, it says can't find /dev/mixer/sound or /dev/sound/mixer  no
> device exists. Don't know if that helps. Thanks.

Both the snd-Driver (alsa) and the other one should work. I won't go
into details here, but you have to tell the system to load the driver.
Add

es1370

to /etc/modules to load the OSS driver. Or add a line

alias sound-slot-0 es1370

to /etc/modprobe.d/aliases (Kernel 2.6) and /etc/modutils/aliases
(Kernel 2.4). Run update-modules (2.6) and update-modules.modutils
(2.4).

And don't forget to add yourself to the audio group. Otherwise you will
get "Permission denied" after loading the driver.

best regards
Andreas Janssen

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  I'm gonna try it without updated to the 2.6 kernel, I'll stick with the
2.4
   ok to just put es1370 to /etc/modules?
Than add alias sound-slot-0 es1370 to /etc/modutils/aliases  than run
update-modules.modutils
But how do I add myself to the audio group?
And sorry about top posting before.  Thanks.


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RE: LILO

[MacNean Tyrrell]

-Original Message-
From: Kent West [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, February 29, 2004 12:29 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: LILO

On Sat, Feb 28, 2004 at 10:10:29PM -0500, MacNean Tyrrell wrote:

>my lilo seems to be screwed up, it
>boots and I get some OS/2 thing, I even tried reinstalling debian from
>
>
net,

>it ejects the disk and reboots and same thing.  What do I do?
>

MacNean Tyrrell wrote:

>I don't think I made a rescue disk.  Am I totally screwed?
>
>

No. Boot up off your installer CD, go through the installation as far as
mounting / and /usr, but DO NOT partition/initialize (skip those steps).
Then shell out via Alt-F2. Run "chroot /target". Now you can edit
/etc/lilo.conf to fix whatever problems it has, then run "lilo". "exit",
Alt-F1 back to the installer, choose "Reboot system" and remove the
installer CD. Hopefully you're now fixed. If not, provide more info
(error messages, etc) (and please, don't top post).

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Thanks I got LILO running now and everything is working (except sound
still).  Thanks again.


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Re: Kernel 2.6.3 again

[Kai Schindelka]

Pigeon wrote:
* Is it sufficient, or did I miss something?
I would add to Andreas's list: libsysfs and sysfsutils. These were
mentioned in a thread Google found for me on lkml, along with procps,
as being update candidates for getting rid of the error message
"Unknown HZ value! (xx) Assuming 100."
I have seen this messages appearing, too. See my other message for a
conclusion. Thanks for your answer!
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Re: gpg & mutt

[S.D.A.]

On Sun, Feb 29, 2004 at 06:27:17PM +0100 or thereabouts, Elimar Riesebieter wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 the mental interface of 
> S.D.A. told:
> 
> > I'm having some difficulty getting pgp to work with mutt (1.5.6).
> > 
> > The problem I'm having is that mutt can't seem to find my keys. I've
> > been reading the Fine Manual, but it doesn't really go into, this is how
> > one does this...for PGP/GPG anyway.
> > 
> > FWIW, when I attempt to sign, this is echo'ed " Can't sign: No key
> > specified. use sign(as)"
> 
> Is your default key defined  in ~/.gnupg/options ?

Elimar,

Wierd, I don't seem to have an 'options' file. I'll see if it's
somewhere else.


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Re: gpg & mutt

[S.D.A.]

On Sun, Feb 29, 2004 at 10:36:21AM -0700 or thereabouts, s. keeling wrote:
> Incoming from Elimar Riesebieter:
> > On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 the mental interface of 
> > S.D.A. told:
> > 
> > > I'm having some difficulty getting pgp to work with mutt (1.5.6).
> > > 
> > > The problem I'm having is that mutt can't seem to find my keys. I've
> > > been reading the Fine Manual, but it doesn't really go into, this is how
> > > one does this...for PGP/GPG anyway.
> > > 
> > > FWIW, when I attempt to sign, this is echo'ed " Can't sign: No key
> > > specified. use sign(as)"
> > 
> > Is your default key defined  in ~/.gnupg/options ?
> 
> fwiw, mine isn't (I've been told you probably don't want this) and
> mine works.

Hm, what entries did you need in your .muttrc? I'm also puzzled as to
how one goes about using the different keys one has with different
reply-hooks.


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Re: OT: establish private network (no wires)

[Brett Carrington]

On Sun, Feb 29, 2004 at 06:54:54PM +0100, Karsten Bolding wrote:
> Hello 
> 
> I'm seeking advice on a technical matter. I want to establish a
> private (wireless) network in an area of say 5x5 km2. In this area there
> are a number of vehicles moving around and each of the vehicles should
> constantly - every second - be updated about the position of the other
> vehicles (obtained via GPS). In addition to the position other types of
> data might need to be exchanged/distributed as well. 
> Each of the vehicles will have a laptop onboard which will be used for
> processing the information obtained from the other vehicles.
> Since it is not possible to cover the area with normal wireless access points 
> I'm seeking another carrier of the signal. GSM/GPRS is not really an 
> option either due to the cost of having around 25 phones running 24/7. 
> Does anybody know of another technical solution which I can use to create 
> such a network?
Regular "Wireless access points" (as in 802.11x) can _absolutely_ cover
this distance. All you need is a good antenna and powerful transmitter.
In America you need a license to transmit as very high powers so you
should check with your local govt. I bet if you looked around your neck
of the woods for amateur radio operators they'd be glad to explain how
to do this. There are other solutions too, like short wave radio or the
like. Using regular commodity WiFi however will be easiest to integrate
with laptops though.


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Re: via-rhine (or rhinefelt) and VT6105/VT6103 driver problems with Debian stable

[Chris Evans]

On 29 Feb 2004 at 13:28, Steven Leach wrote:

> Which Via board are you running?
I believe it is a CL1000
 
> I have two set up, a CL6000 Dual Lan for my server and an M1 as a
> little desktop cube.
Aha, you lucky man you!
 
> Debian 3.0r2 had no problem with the M1 (single ethernet) using
> the via-rhine driver.  On the dual lan, however, only eth0 was
> recognized.  
Yup, that's my experience now I've realised (mass of egg pulled off 
face and dumped in sink) that the damn LOM was switched off the BIOS 
on the machine - hadn't realised that this could be done in my 
innocence and baffled why the suppliers supplied it like that.

> Upgraded to sid (possibly not necessary but I was planning on it
> anyway) and compiled a 2.6.0-test11 kernel and all was good (oddly
> enough what had been eth0 was now eth1 and the one that had been
> previously unrecognized was now eth0). 
I'm very reluctant to go this way as the machine is my first line 
defence against the internet and so having the Debian security 
upgrades guaranteed adds to my capacity to sleep at night ... hence 
at moment I'm pursuing compiling the latest via-rhine driver module 
from the source code from the Scyld site with some support from Nick 
Jacobs (see separate posting).
 
> Also, the current sarge/sid installers are unusable with the m1
> (never tried it with the cl6000 though) but it is no problem since you
> can just dist-upgrade from Woody.  The Woody installer works
> flawlessly.
Hm, I may end up going there I suppose as I'm reluctant to spend over 
100 pounds on a quad port card when I've got the three ports I need 
already in principle!  (Though thanks to others for excellent advice 
on those opitions).  May come back to this yet though.

Thanks Steven and everyone else,

Chris
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Re: gpg & mutt

[s. keeling]

Incoming from S.D.A.:
> On Sun, Feb 29, 2004 at 10:36:21AM -0700 or thereabouts, s. keeling wrote:
> > 
> > fwiw, mine isn't (I've been told you probably don't want this) and
> > mine works.
> 
> Hm, what entries did you need in your .muttrc? I'm also puzzled as to

See my other post in this thread.  They all came from /etc/Muttrc.


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Re: via-rhine (or rhinefelt) and VT6105/VT6103 driver problems with Debian stable

[Chris Evans]

On 29 Feb 2004 at 6:10, Nick Jacobs wrote:

> I also needed to use the via-rhine driver with
> Woody. I used the one from the Scyld site. There
> are some minor things to fix but basically the
> Scyld driver will solve your problems.

By the time I got Nick's very helpful post I had discovered that the 
damn LOM was switched off in the BIOS: switching it on gets me one of 
the two ports with the 2.4.18-bf2.4 kernel via-rhine module but not 
both and I do need both.

So, I got the kernel-header package (so that's where modversions.h 
was hiding in I've probably looked through umpteen things telling me 
that ... but, to be fair to myself, I did search around and whatever 
explains this didn't leap up and hit me).

I also downloaded and compiled via-rhine.c and pc-scan.c.  For the 
former I had to hard code he location of modversions.h for the 
latter, the explicit -include parameter suggested on the Scyle site 
seemed to do the trick.  I now have the two executables: via-rhine.o 
and pci-scan.o.  I can see where I'd have to put the via-rhine one to 
replace the bf2.4 supplied one but the pci-scan.o file isn't there in 
the Debian distribution?  Does that need to be modprobed in 
somewhere?  

Anyway, more serious problems: I moved supplied via-rhine.o and 
replaced it with new one but no joy:  

/lib/modules/2.4.18-bf2.4/kernel/drivers/net/via-rhine.o: kernel-
module version mismatch
/lib/modules/2.4.18-bf2.4/kernel/drivers/net/via-rhine.o was 
compiled for kernel version 2.4.18
while this kernel is version 2.4.18-bf2.4.

Presumably there's something I should have done in the compilation to 
make sure it recorded the correct version ID?  Can anyone tell me 
what?

TIA,

Chris

P.S. continuing to cross-post to get this well archived, including my 
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Re: please help apt upgrade issue openoffice locales

[developer]

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> I am running a debian woody mixing stable and testing and very random
>> few
>> unstable packages with the 2.4.24 kernel.  I just did an apt-get -u
>> dist-upgrade and there was a couple upgrades none seemed very
>> significant
>> but it bombed out at the end. Now it bombs out everytime i do an upgrade
>> and a couple things seem broken like my openoffice stopped working.
>> Seems
>> to be a conflict with the xlibmesa3 upgrade and my existing
>> libGLU.so.1.3
>> package?
>>
>> Here is the output:
>> S# apt-get -u dist-upgrade
>> Reading Package Lists... Done
>> Building Dependency Tree... Done
>> Calculating Upgrade... Done
>> The following packages have been kept back:
>>   scrollkeeper
>> The following packages will be upgraded:
>>   xlibmesa3
>> 1 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
>> Need to get 0B/3423kB of archives.
>> After unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used.
>> Do you want to continue? [Y/n]
>> (Reading database ... 61643 files and directories currently installed.)
>> Preparing to replace xlibmesa3 4.1.0-16woody1 (using
>> .../xlibmesa3_4.1.0-16woody3_i386.deb) ...
>> Unpacking replacement xlibmesa3 ...
>> dpkg: error processing
>> /var/cache/apt/archives/xlibmesa3_4.1.0-16woody3_i386.deb (--unpack):
>>  trying to overwrite `/usr/X11R6/lib/libGLU.so.1.3', which is also in
>> package xlibmesa3-glu
>> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
>> Errors were encountered while processing:
>>  /var/cache/apt/archives/xlibmesa3_4.1.0-16woody3_i386.deb
>> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
>
> It sounds like you have to force the install like (one line):
>
> dpkg -i --force-overwrite
> /var/cache/apt/archives/xlibmesa3_4.1.0-16woody3_i386.deb
>
> as root
>
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>
Thanks colin that got me past that message but now I have a host of
problems.  First of all it never completed the upgrade of the scrollkeeper
package now i get:
# apt-get upgrade
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
The following packages have been kept back:
  scrollkeeper
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.

More importantly my openoffice seems to be screwed up i think it had
something to do with perl being upgraded and that somehow screwed up my 
locales.  My locales are just C and POSTFIX but when I run openoffice  I
get:
starting configuration import into user data ..
.. importing layer file:///tmp/oooLocale.yD0zzf - succeeded
I18N: Operating system doesn't support locale ""

If I reconfigure my locales to include en_US.UTF-8 I then get this:
#openoffice
Starting configuration import into user data ..
.. importing layer file:///tmp/oooLocale.tBkvKq - succeeded

And now with the en_US.UTF-8 set to default i get all these funny
characters on lots of screens like the reconfigure screens and man pages. 
I had C set to the default locale before but when you reconfigure it it
doesn't seem to be an option to fix the funky characters i have to
reconfigure locales and remove en_US.UTF-8.  I tried removing and purging
openoffice and reinstalling with no luck.

Please help
-ryan

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Re: a good mirror to download sarge

[Lucas Albers]

Didier Caamano said:
> I'm wondering if any of you know a good mirror, preferably from Canada to
> download sarge, the isos or the network image? if the mirror is in the US
> I wouldn't mind either.

run apt-spy to find fast mirror.
install apt-cacher to cache all apt requests.
apt-cacher speeds up apt a lot!, and saves debian.org bandwidth.

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Re: New paradigm for Linux distributions?

[Joel Konkle-Parker]

David Clymer wrote:
On Sat, 2004-02-28 at 15:50, Joel Konkle-Parker wrote:

I posted a small article on a possible future for Linux distributions: 
http://ballsome.com

Thoughts?



Perhaps I'm just dense, but what's new here? To me, Ian's "plan" sounds
like a fairly good description of debian with "lets all use the same
package format" thrown in (another old idea). How is debian NOT
componentized? Doesn't debian already have a repository of packages
based on apt? Doesnt debian already support the installation of a "core"
system, and then allow one to download any specific components/software
one needs?
I'm not saying that any of this is a bad idea, but why start another
project when one can get the same thing by just using debian?
Perhaps others can tell me what it is about these concepts that I'm
missing.
Well, I guess the difference here (in my idea, anyway) is that the main 
repository wouldn't be under the control of a single distribution. It'd 
be a central repository used by all participating distributions.

Currently, Debian's repository is just that - Debian's repository. Yeah, 
it's very large, and very open to others, but it's still Debian's. I 
guess if you consider Debian's as "the world's", then we're already there.

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Problem installing Debian onto Proliant server

[Douglas A. Paquette Jr.]

To whom it may concern at Debian,
 
I have a Compaq Proliant 8000 server with 4 Ultra 
320 10k 72.8 gig scsi hard drives.
 
http://h18000.www1.hp.com/products/servers/proliant8000/
 
I had a guy from a computer store successfully 
install debian into my proliant 8000 but ran into some problems between my 
webmaster and this guy and this guy will not tell me anything as to how he got 
it installed.
 
I want to format and reinstall debian into my 
proliant 8000 again for a fresh install but for some reason Debian is not 
detecting any hard drives during the first part of the install 
process.
 
I have setup raid 5 array and a system partition 
using Compaq's Smart Start CD and still it does not detect any 
drives.
 
I have even wiped out all the data and installed 
the debian cd with no drives partitioned, no raid, no array config or anything 
and still no go.
 
Is there anyone who has any experience installing 
debian on proliant servers who could help me out with this.
 
I have done everything i know of to 
do.
 
I have no problem installing Red hat linux version 
9, it detects the drives and the raid config without hesitation.
 
But debian doesnt.
 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] or 
708-334-5845
 
Any advice or help would be greatly 
appreciated.
 
Thanks for your time.
 
Sincerely,
 
Doug Paquette
 

Re: changing to debian from slackware

[Lucas Albers]

Joel Kaasinen said:
> Hi,
>
> I have an old dual 133mhz pentium server (64mb ram, ~8Gb scsi harddisk)
> with
> slackware 9.1 installed.


>So now I'm seriously thinking about switching to debian.
>
> Any tips (I want to keep my config the same and avoid reconffin')?
> Differences between debian and slack?
> Comments?
I'v seen numerous slack users switch to debian.
You could install debootstrap on the system and then do a debian chroot
install. Google about it.

Install debian on another system first, I use bonzai linux debian
installer for easier installation. It just uses the 2.4.20 kernel with
auto-detection of hardware enabled. Still allows me to use a stable
system.
Just determine the list of services you want to convert and then copy conf
files to your new debian install.
You need to determine what services are used on the system, eg,
mail server webserver, etc.
This sort of change is work, no way around it.
Don't go to the 2.6 kernel yet, you would have to be smoking crack to go
to a new kernel until it hits the 2.6.10 release for production systems.
Just my conservative opinion.
Only do upgrades or switch os's if you have a compelling reason, even a
security fix is not compelling, if you have no local users.
Stability is the single most important quality.
With that said, it is _much_ easier to admin debian boxes than redhat boxes.
Easier to setup a rh box with hardware/raid detection.
Much easier to install/remove configure packages resolve dependencies on
debian.  No more dependency hell. Packages are also (imo) much more stable
and tested.

I still have systems running redhat 7.2 with the 2.4.9 kernel that are
doing looong running computational jobs. It works and is not remotelly
exploitable, so I keep using it.
Part of the debian philosophy (imo) applied to general linux servers.
If it works, don't touch it.

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tar cvfz test.tar.gz / gives error while untaring

[Oliver Fuchs]

Hi,

I want to tar my whole / directory.

I do 
tar cvfz  test.tar.gz /
and afterwards trying to untar the directory I receive the error-message:
tar::Cannot mkdir: No such file or directory

Typing tar tf test.tar the list shows me:

/
/boot
/root
[...]

I do not understand why tar is adding the first entry "/" to the archieve
and I cannot find a way how to prevent tar from doing this.

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Xfree 4.4 is out

[Antonio Rodriguez]

Great news! 4.4 version is out. 

http://www.xfree.org/#newrel

Finally my card is there (ati radeon 9800)


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Re: tar cvfz test.tar.gz / gives error while untaring

[s. keeling]

Incoming from Oliver Fuchs:
> 
> I want to tar my whole / directory.
> 
> I do 
>   tar cvfz  test.tar.gz /
> and afterwards trying to untar the directory I receive the error-message:
>   tar::Cannot mkdir: No such file or directory

Check the manpage.  The "f" switch is used to tell tar that the next
parameter is the file to use:

   tar cvzf test.tar.gz /

Instead, cd to someplace with some space, then run it.

> Typing tar tf test.tar the list shows me:
> 
> /
> /boot
> /root
> [...]
> 
> I do not understand why tar is adding the first entry "/" to the archieve
> and I cannot find a way how to prevent tar from doing this.

By default, tar doesn't, so you must have done something wrong.  Try:

   cd /
   tar cvzf /somewhere/test.tgz .
   cd /somewhere
   tar tvzf test.tgz

Note the "."  btw, tarring the whole root dir will tar the entire
filesystem, including everything that's mounted off the root
filesystem.  man tar to find out how not to do that.


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Re: gpg & mutt

[Elimar Riesebieter]

On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 the mental interface of 
S.D.A. told:

> On Sun, Feb 29, 2004 at 06:27:17PM +0100 or thereabouts, Elimar Riesebieter wrote:
> > On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 the mental interface of 
> > S.D.A. told:
> > 
> > > I'm having some difficulty getting pgp to work with mutt (1.5.6).
> > > 
> > > The problem I'm having is that mutt can't seem to find my keys. I've
> > > been reading the Fine Manual, but it doesn't really go into, this is how
> > > one does this...for PGP/GPG anyway.
> > > 
> > > FWIW, when I attempt to sign, this is echo'ed " Can't sign: No key
> > > specified. use sign(as)"
> > 
> > Is your default key defined  in ~/.gnupg/options ?
> 
> Elimar,
> 
> Wierd, I don't seem to have an 'options' file. I'll see if it's
> somewhere else.

 Did you install the gnupg package?  There must be a options.skel in
 the distribution like in /usr/share/gnupg or
 /usr/locale/share/gnupg. Copy that file to your $HOME/.gnupg as
 $HOME/.gnupg/options and fix your keyserver, defaultkey etc in that
 file.  Also you need the gpg.rc.gz out of the mutt doc-distro
 unziped and copied to your $HOME/.mutt/muttrc.gpg. In .mutt/muttrc
 you have to notice mutt by source ~/.mutt/muttrc.gpg by that file.

 Thats my way and it works perfect ;-)

 HTH

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Am Sonntag, 29. Februar 2004 20:42 schrieb Oliver Fuchs:

> I want to tar my whole / directory.
>
> I do
>   tar cvfz  test.tar.gz /
> and afterwards trying to untar the directory I receive the error-message:
>   tar::Cannot mkdir: No such file or directory
>
> Typing tar tf test.tar the list shows me:
>
> /
> /boot
> /root
> [...]
>
> I do not understand why tar is adding the first entry "/" to the archieve
> and I cannot find a way how to prevent tar from doing this.

Try

cd /
tar cvfz test.tar.gz .

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Re: tar cvfz test.tar.gz / gives error while untaring

[Oliver Fuchs]

On Sun, 29 Feb 2004, s. keeling wrote:

> Check the manpage.  The "f" switch is used to tell tar that the next
> parameter is the file to use:
> 
>tar cvzf test.tar.gz /
> 
> Instead, cd to someplace with some space, then run it.

Yes, that is right ... my fault.

> By default, tar doesn't, so you must have done something wrong.  Try:
> 
>cd /
>tar cvzf /somewhere/test.tgz .
>cd /somewhere
>tar tvzf test.tgz
> 
> Note the "."  btw, tarring the whole root dir will tar the entire
> filesystem, including everything that's mounted off the root
> filesystem.  man tar to find out how not to do that.

Yes surely, I did a lot of --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/dev ... that was not the
problem.

What I do not understand is:
I am in directory /home/me/TAR_EXAMPLE
Now I want to tar directory /tmp for example then I do

tar cvzf temp.test.tar.gz /tmp

Afterwards I receive in the directory /home/me/TAR_EXAMPLE the archive
temp.test.tar.gz which can be untared without any problems.

But ... trying to do

tar cvzf root.test.tar.gz / --exclude=home --exclude=/dev

I receive the archive root.test.tar.gz in directory /home/me/TAR_EXAMPLE
but trying to untar it gives me the mkdir-error-message.

Why is tar not processing the / directory like any other directory and why is
it adding a / when tar xvzf cannot untar it?

So the conclusion would be that trying to tar the / directory I have to cd
into that directory to make it working while with any other directory I can
start the tar-process from where ever I want?

Oliver
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FYI: Branden's Response to DPL Platform Question

[Joel Konkle-Parker]

I asked Branden Robinson a question about his DPL platform, and got a 
pretty good response, so I thought I'd post it here.

Question:

While I am in no 'official' position to request this (I'm just a random 
interested user), I'd really appreciate you guys including some stuff 
about the current release cycle, the ongoing delays in releasing Sarge, 
and possible ideas on how to improve the situation in future releases.

Reply:

I do mention the issue in my platform, but I have no specific
recommendations to make at this time.  If elected, I will work with
Anthony Towns, Colin Watson, and Steve Langasek as best I can to
identify the problems they perceive, and collaboratively come up with
solutions.
There are several hard problems that work together to make releasing
Debian difficult.  Also, the rewrite of our installer technology has put
a unique load on this release cycle.
It's worth reviewing Anthony's mail to debian-devel-announce in
December, and Colin's last week, to get an idea of some of the
challenges they've had to face.  The fact that approximately 6% of our
archive fails to meet bare minimum expectations leads me to believe that
we may want to inaugurate a special process for orphaning such packages.
Feel free to repost this reply publicly.

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Kmplayer package

[Slaanesh]

Hi,

Does somebody know if a debian package of kmplayer is available 
somewhere ?

Slaanesh


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Re: FYI: Branden's Response to DPL Platform Question

[s. keeling]

Incoming from Joel Konkle-Parker:
> 
> challenges they've had to face.  The fact that approximately 6% of our
> archive fails to meet bare minimum expectations leads me to believe that
> we may want to inaugurate a special process for orphaning such packages.

'Sounds to me like a job for [EMAIL PROTECTED]

That might be a great way to draw in potential maintainers (hey, I'd
read it!), and with %96 good vs. %6 bad, the numbers are promising.


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Re: tar cvfz test.tar.gz / gives error while untaring

[s. keeling]

Incoming from Oliver Fuchs:
> 
> So the conclusion would be that trying to tar the / directory I have to cd
> into that directory to make it working while with any other directory I can
> start the tar-process from where ever I want?

The answer should be in the manpage but for what it's worth, I _never_
want to see a leading "/" in the output of tar [tx]vf.  If I want it
to blow away my root, I'll cd / first, damnit.  :-)


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Re: FYI: Branden's Response to DPL Platform Question

[Ing. Vladimir M. Kerka]

On Sun, 2004-02-29 at 22:11, s. keeling wrote:
--snip --
> That might be a great way to draw in potential maintainers (hey, I'd
> read it!), and with %96 good vs. %6 bad, the numbers are promising.
> ^^^
You mean from at least 102 % of Debian packages? -:))
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RE: Sound and Linux Kernel 2.6

[MacNean Tyrrell]

Andreas Janssen, thanks so much, best help every.  Sound now works.  SO
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Re: Problem installing Debian onto Proliant server

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On Sunday 29 February 2004 10:06 am, Douglas A. Paquette Jr. wrote:
> To whom it may concern at Debian,
>
> I have a Compaq Proliant 8000 server with 4 Ultra 320 10k 72.8 gig
> scsi hard drives.
>
> http://h18000.www1.hp.com/products/servers/proliant8000/
>
> I had a guy from a computer store successfully install debian into my
> proliant 8000 but ran into some problems between my webmaster and
> this guy and this guy will not tell me anything as to how he got it
> installed.
>
> I want to format and reinstall debian into my proliant 8000 again for
> a fresh install but for some reason Debian is not detecting any hard
> drives during the first part of the install process.
>
> I have setup raid 5 array and a system partition using Compaq's Smart
> Start CD and still it does not detect any drives.
>
> I have even wiped out all the data and installed the debian cd with
> no drives partitioned, no raid, no array config or anything and still
> no go.
>
> Is there anyone who has any experience installing debian on proliant
> servers who could help me out with this.
>
> I have done everything i know of to do.
>
> I have no problem installing Red hat linux version 9, it detects the
> drives and the raid config without hesitation.
>
> But debian doesnt.
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 708-334-5845
>
> Any advice or help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks for your time.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Doug Paquette

This is what the specs say the controller is, RedHat 7.2 is supported on 
that box. "Smart Array 2xx, 3xxx and 42xx Family of Controllers", which 
is the cpq_cpqarray driver. 
http://h18000.www1.hp.com/support/files/server/us/download/17261.html

Using Woody the 2.4.18bf kernel has this driver compiled into the 
kernel. This is for the Smart Array 5xxx series, not sure if it is 
backwards compatable.

CONFIG_BLK_CPQ_CISS_DA=y

Not much help, but 'disks not found' in this type of situation can mean 
no driver compiled into the kernel , for the hardware raid card, for 
the Woody kernels.  You need to make sure the driver for the raid card 
is available in the install kernel.
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Installation Questions

[Martin Kuball]

Hi!

I'm planing to install Debian on my desktop machine which already has a 
running Linux. But not Debian which I came to like recently because I use it 
on my laptop.

So here is the question. Is it possible with the debian installer to skip 
some of the tasks? Especially formatting the partitions and installing a new 
kernel? Which means I want to keep my LILO settings and everything in /boot 
and /lib/modules.

Thanks,

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soundcard driver

[john]

I'm using Debian 2.2 and kernel 2.2.19 that came with it. I've installed
 xmcd and it works just fine but I get no sound. I installed alsa-base
and added 'alias sound-slot-0 via82cxxx_audio' to /etc/modutils/aliases
but I still get no sound. All I want to do is play a CD. What else do I
need to do?
Any suggestions would be appreciated. 	

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Re: I've lost my 'k' key, in some apps. - Fixed!

[s. keeling]

This is just one for the archives.  Maybe it'll help someone should
they run into something like it.  The moral is, after installing a
kernel package, run modconf!  This is in Woody 3.0r2

Incoming from s. keeling:
> Incoming from s. keeling:
> > This is the kind of thing that annoys the living daylights out of
> > me.  As you can see, that key works in the xterm that mutt's running
> > in, it works in the emacs window that mutt opens up, and xev
> > recognizes it.  It also works in the gdm login (thank goodness!).
> > 
> > Yet, if I start up an xterm, an rxvt, or a gnome-terminal from the
> > command line or gnome panel, the "k" key just beeps and outputs
> > nothing.  However, if I su to root, it works there.
> 
> I had a sneaking suspicion that something goofy must have been going
> on with the new kernel I installed the day before this started.  Well,
> sort of.  Upgrading to 2.4.18-1-686 clobbered iso-8859-1
> (nls_iso8859-1) language support.  Running modconf and installing a
> couple of modules appears to have eliminated the problem.
> 
> Why the only symptom was the loss of my 'k' key, and only in some
> apps, I've no idea.  What a bizarre failure mode that is.  I suppose I
> should apologise for accusing gnome, but now it's b*tch*ing that
> fluxbox is a non-gnome-compliant wm and is refusing to use it.  #$%^&*!
> It may just be time to just give up on gdm & gnome and go back to
> startx to regain control.  Grrr.


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Re: FYI: Branden's Response to DPL Platform Question

[s. keeling]

Incoming from Ing. Vladimir M. Kerka:
> On Sun, 2004-02-29 at 22:11, s. keeling wrote:
> > That might be a great way to draw in potential maintainers (hey, I'd
> > read it!), and with %96 good vs. %6 bad, the numbers are promising.
> > ^^^
> You mean from at least 102 % of Debian packages? -:))

Didn't anyone ever tell you that arithmetic flames are just above
spelling flames?  Argh!  :-)


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Re: gpg & mutt

[S.D.A.]

On Sun, Feb 29, 2004 at 09:06:14PM +0100 or thereabouts, Elimar Riesebieter wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 the mental interface of 
> S.D.A. told:
> > 
> > Elimar,
> > 
> > Wierd, I don't seem to have an 'options' file. I'll see if it's
> > somewhere else.
> 
>  Did you install the gnupg package?  There must be a options.skel in
>  the distribution like in /usr/share/gnupg or
>  /usr/locale/share/gnupg. Copy that file to your $HOME/.gnupg as
>  $HOME/.gnupg/options and fix your keyserver, defaultkey etc in that
>  file.  Also you need the gpg.rc.gz out of the mutt doc-distro
>  unziped and copied to your $HOME/.mutt/muttrc.gpg. In .mutt/muttrc
>  you have to notice mutt by source ~/.mutt/muttrc.gpg by that file.

Yes I installed the gnupg package. OK, thanks for the heads-up regarding
'options.skel'. It's been copied over to the appropriate directory.

I also got the gpg.rc file, and referenced it to my muttrc. I'm still
getting the errors about not finding the key, however, when I attempt to
sign.

In my options file, I stated my default key in the following format:

default-key F8A48DF1

Is this the proper syntax?


Is there a good SxS for this anywhere. Any I'm found, don't really go
through this step x step. I followed one, and it didn't even mention an
"options" file.

I guess failing there being a SxS, I'll have to write one -- once I get
this working that is...

>  Thats my way and it works perfect ;-)

OK, Still not for me though. :) I'm learning though. Thanks for the
help.

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Re: gpg & mutt

[S.D.A.]

On Sun, Feb 29, 2004 at 10:31:09AM -0700 or thereabouts, s. keeling wrote:
> Incoming from S.D.A.:
> > I'm having some difficulty getting pgp to work with mutt (1.5.6).
> .^^^
> 
> pgp or gpg?  My mutt is 1.3.28i (Woody).  gpg (GnuPG) 1.2.2

mutt 1.5.6i (compiled from source). gpg (GnuPG) 1.0.6 - (Woody).

Should I get a more recent gpg?


> > The problem I'm having is that mutt can't seem to find my keys. I've
> 
> Do you have "gpa"?  That's a cute little gui for managing keys.
> Perhaps that's where you say which is your default?  Anyway, all my
> gpg stuff is in ~/.gnupg, and how it all works is defined in
> ~/.gnupg/options.  In mutt, I have these (all fairly stock, from
> /etc/Muttrc):

No, I don't have 'gpa'. I don't think I really want a GUI, I'm
comfortable using a term. Thanks, though.

I've found the generic gpg.rc and referenced it in my '.muttrc', but I'm
still having some difficulty. Mutt can't find my default key, despite my
defining it in the options file.

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Re: tar cvfz test.tar.gz / gives error while untaring

[CW Harris]

On Sun, Feb 29, 2004 at 09:33:48PM +0100, Oliver Fuchs wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Feb 2004, s. keeling wrote:
> 

> >cd /
> >tar cvzf /somewhere/test.tgz .
> >cd /somewhere
> >tar tvzf test.tgz
> > 
> > Note the "."  btw, tarring the whole root dir will tar the entire
> > filesystem, including everything that's mounted off the root
> > filesystem.  man tar to find out how not to do that.
> 
> Yes surely, I did a lot of --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/dev ... that was not the
> problem.
> 
> What I do not understand is:
> I am in directory /home/me/TAR_EXAMPLE
> Now I want to tar directory /tmp for example then I do
> 
> tar cvzf temp.test.tar.gz /tmp
> 
> Afterwards I receive in the directory /home/me/TAR_EXAMPLE the archive
> temp.test.tar.gz which can be untared without any problems.
> 
> But ... trying to do
> 
> tar cvzf root.test.tar.gz / --exclude=home --exclude=/dev
> 
> I receive the archive root.test.tar.gz in directory /home/me/TAR_EXAMPLE
> but trying to untar it gives me the mkdir-error-message.
> 
> Why is tar not processing the / directory like any other directory and why is
> it adding a / when tar xvzf cannot untar it?
> 
> So the conclusion would be that trying to tar the / directory I have to cd
> into that directory to make it working while with any other directory I can
> start the tar-process from where ever I want?
> 
I don't think it should do that without the "-P" switch.  What version
are you running?  My quick check (as root or not was the same):

Script started on Sun Feb 29 14:59:32 2004
chris:~>  tar cvzf root.tgz / 
tar: Removing leading `/' from member names
tar: 
lost+found/
root/
.
.
.

I'm using:
tar (GNU tar) 1.13.25
Copyright (C) 2001 Free Software Foundation, Inc.

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Re: Distributed Jukeboxes for LAN

[Monique Y. Herman]

On 2004-02-29, Bill Moseley penned:
> Just looking for suggestions on a distributed jukebox for mostly audio
> files for my home lan.  There seems to be a few available but wanted
> to see if anyone here has a favorite.
>
> Anyone using http://www.theory.org/software/djukebox/ ?
>
> My current setup is a browser setup that runs xmms --enqueue, but my
> playlists are hand edited.  Rather basic.
>

Have you looked at slimp3?

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Re: FYI: Branden's Response to DPL Platform Question

[Colin Watson]

On Sun, Feb 29, 2004 at 02:11:27PM -0700, s. keeling wrote:
> Incoming from Joel Konkle-Parker:
> > challenges they've had to face.  The fact that approximately 6% of our
> > archive fails to meet bare minimum expectations leads me to believe that
> > we may want to inaugurate a special process for orphaning such packages.
> 
> 'Sounds to me like a job for [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> That might be a great way to draw in potential maintainers (hey, I'd
> read it!), and with %96 good vs. %6 bad, the numbers are promising.

More -qa, really, although a bit of both. Working on such broken
packages is most certainly an activity that does happen at the moment,
but could sometimes do with better organization.

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Error

[Pedro M.]

Using synaptic appears the next error :

perl:warming : setting locale failed.
perl: warning:Please check that your locale settings :
LANGUAGE = (unset)
LC_ALL= (unset)
LANG = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
are supporeted and installed on your system.

perl: warming : falling back to the satandar locale ("c")

What can I do ??.

Thanks in advance.

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Re: gpg & mutt

[s. keeling]

Incoming from S.D.A.:
> 
> Is there a good SxS for this anywhere. Any I'm found, don't really go
> through this step x step. I followed one, and it didn't even mention an

Ah!  "SxS" == "Step by step."

See http://codesorcery.net/mutt/mutt-gnupg-howto


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Re: Error - yet another locale problem. :-(

[s. keeling]

Incoming from Pedro M.:
> Using synaptic appears the next error :
> 
> perl:warming : setting locale failed.
> perl: warning:Please check that your locale settings :
> 
> LANGUAGE = (unset)
> LC_ALL= (unset)
> LANG = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
> 
> are supporeted and installed on your system.
> 
> perl: warming : falling back to the satandar locale ("c")
> 
> What can I do ??.

Learn to check the archives at list.debian.org?  Short answer is
"dpkg-reconfigure locales", man locale, /etc/locale.alias,
/etc/locale.gen, and locale-gen.


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Help: Battstat

[Ben Hill]

Apologies if it's a lame question: I am trying to get battstat showing
the correct current battery charge, but it's not picking up any info.

I have built ACPI and APM into my 2.6.3 kernel and I'm running Deb 3.0
testing/unstable. This is on a Toshiba Tecra M1 laptop.

Cheers,

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Re: gpg & mutt

[S.D.A.]

On Sun, Feb 29, 2004 at 03:14:42PM -0700 or thereabouts, s. keeling wrote:
> Incoming from S.D.A.:
> > 
> > Is there a good SxS for this anywhere. Any I'm found, don't really go
> > through this step x step. I followed one, and it didn't even mention an
> 
> Ah!  "SxS" == "Step by step."

Yes, (note to self not to use accronyms)

> See http://codesorcery.net/mutt/mutt-gnupg-howto

Ah, Thank-you.

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Re: CUPS Admin (was Re: [Fwd: Re: No printing at all!])

[Wolfgang Pfeiffer]

On Fri, 2004-02-27 at 22:07, CW Harris wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 27, 2004 at 07:54:08PM +, Clive Menzies wrote:
> > On (27/02/04 13:00), Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
> > > On Wed, 2004-02-25 at 19:18, Clive Menzies wrote:
> > > > On (25/02/04 17:23), Alisdair wrote:
> 
> > > Here's the URL  for CUPS where the documentation for authentication
> > > stuff starts, IINM:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > And here's a
> > > /etc/cups/cupsd.conf
> > > that allows only users in group foo, on one machine with several users,
> > > to manage the CUPS printing system, and only after he or she provided
> > > their username/passwd ...
> > > 
> > > [ /etc/groups file 
> > > adduser  foo
> > > ... login ... logout .. IIRC ]
> > > 
> > > I didn't test so far whether this also works on a network connected to
> > > some printer, but I'd believe it could work ... not being sure on that
> > > ..
> 
> As I understand, you can specify in cupsd.conf the network or hosts that
> are allowed to have admin privs.  (The "Allow From" directive).
> 
> > > 
> > > At least here on 
> > > http://localhost:631
> > > on a single machine with several users: after some initial tests it
> > > seems to work:
> > > 
> > > Here's the corresponding cupsd.conf:
> > > --- 
> > > LogLevel debug
> > > Printcap /var/run/cups/printcap
> > > 
> > > Order Deny,Allow
> > > Deny From All
> > > Allow From 127.0.0.1
> > > 
> > > 
> > > AuthType Basic
> > > AuthClass Group
> > > AuthGroupName foo
> > > Order Deny,Allow
> > > Deny From All
> > > Allow From 127.0.0.1
> 
> Here is where you can control where admin privs are allowed from.
> 
> > > 
> > > --
> > > 
> > > So with this last cupsd.conf it seems you don't need to be root to
> > > change your CUPS settings and you can decide who of the users on a
> > > machine will be able to to change these settings ... 
> > > 
> > > I swear I love this crap, at least some times . :)
> 
>   Yeah. So many things are beautiful...when they are working
> right! 
> 
> > > 
> > > PS:
> > > I'd 
> > > cp -r /etc/cups/ /path/to/other/directory/cups.working
> > > before changing some printer settings ... :)
> > > 
> > > HTH, too ...
> > > 
> > > Best Regards
> > > 
> > > Wolfgang
> > Hi Wolfgang
> > 
> > Thanks for this although I was responding to the OP who was having
> > trouble setting up printing.  Using the browser, as I understand it,
> > you are only configuring cups as the administrator if you login as root.
> 
> No. As he says, any user in group "foo".


yow ... and just in case someone might be interested: Here's a
/etc/cups/cupsd.conf
that should let everyone on a machine configure CUPS, without the need
to enter a passwd:

---
LogLevel debug
Printcap /var/run/cups/printcap

Order Deny,Allow
Deny From All
Allow From 127.0.0.1


AuthType None
Order Deny,Allow
Deny From All
Allow From 127.0.0.1

--

With the cupsd.conf above everyone should be able to acces
http://localhost:631/admin

This config *might* make sense if one is the only person having access
to a machine. 


> 
> > I wouldn't imagine that you could inadvertantly do anything really
> > dangerous from the browser except possibly screw up cups.

I'm extremely talented in destroying  settings on a computer by mistake
once I'm on X, even on console: That's why, while being root,  I try to
never login to X at least ... :)

> 
> Add/Change printers, classes, etc.  Yes, this is only cups
> administration.  (Maybe I don't understand "anything
> dangerous...except..cups").
> 
> > 
> > However, I do find it a pain to login as root just for this and so I
> > will add this to my growing list of tasks to conquer ;)
> 
> Yes, I /still/ just feel like I'm muddling through.  Started using cups
> because I thought it would magically work better with the MS crap.  Now
> I'm taking the plunge to Samba 3.x

   [ ... ]

I found Eric S. Raymond's Essay on CUPS from Feb. 27 this afternoon (E.S
Raymond is the author of fetchmail, sed and other stuff.):

"The Luxury of Ignorance: An Open-Source Horror Story"


Excerpt:
"I've just gone through the experience of trying to configure CUPS, the
Common Unix Printing System. It has proved a textbook lesson in why
nontechnical people run screaming from Unix. This is all the more
frustrating because the developers of CUPS have obviously tried hard to
produce an accessible system — but the best intentions and effort have
led to a system which despite its superficial pseudo-friendliness is so
undiscoverable that it might as well have been written in ancient
Sanskrit."

Enjoy ... :)

Best Regards
Wolfgang

PS: It's possible I made a mistake when writing in my previous posting I
had set Gnome to forbid root here to log in to X. I didn't have the time
so far to look at it ...

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Re: exim HELO=fully qualified host name?

[Vincent Lefevre]

On 2004-02-23 22:24:28 -0500, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote:
> That depends on who's mail server you connect to.  Some admins require
> the HELO parameter to be resolvable, and some even require it to
> resolve to the IP of the machine making the connection.

They should fix their configuration, then.

RFC 2821:

   An SMTP server MAY verify that the domain name parameter in the EHLO
   command actually corresponds to the IP address of the client.
   However, the server MUST NOT refuse to accept a message for this
   reason if the verification fails: the information about verification
   failure is for logging and tracing only.

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Re: New paradigm for Linux distributions?

[David Clymer]

On Sun, 2004-02-29 at 14:19, Joel Konkle-Parker wrote:
> David Clymer wrote:
> > On Sat, 2004-02-28 at 15:50, Joel Konkle-Parker wrote:
> > 
> >>I posted a small article on a possible future for Linux distributions: 
> >>http://ballsome.com
> >>
> >>Thoughts?
> >>
> > 
> > 
> > Perhaps I'm just dense, but what's new here? To me, Ian's "plan" sounds
> > like a fairly good description of debian with "lets all use the same
> > package format" thrown in (another old idea). How is debian NOT
> > componentized? Doesn't debian already have a repository of packages
> > based on apt? Doesnt debian already support the installation of a "core"
> > system, and then allow one to download any specific components/software
> > one needs?
> > 
> > I'm not saying that any of this is a bad idea, but why start another
> > project when one can get the same thing by just using debian?
> > 
> > Perhaps others can tell me what it is about these concepts that I'm
> > missing.
> 
> Well, I guess the difference here (in my idea, anyway) is that the main 
> repository wouldn't be under the control of a single distribution. It'd 
> be a central repository used by all participating distributions.
> 
> Currently, Debian's repository is just that - Debian's repository. Yeah, 
> it's very large, and very open to others, but it's still Debian's. I 
> guess if you consider Debian's as "the world's", then we're already there.
> 

Thats all true, its just that I don't really see that its practical to
start yet another project. _Somebody_ has got to control/manage the
repository. If it's not debian, it would be another organization
(Progeny perhaps?). Whoever it is, would have to create and enforce
policy regarding the managment of the repository, the creation of
packages for it (so that conflicts/dependancies can be
identified/defined), provide the equipment, bandwidth, etc. On top of
this, no one who disagreed with the policies under which the packages
(this would include dictating package type) were made would want to use
the repository or contribute to it. All these problems would be faced if
one was to try to get everyone to use and contribute to debian's
repository. Debian could be "the world's" if we could get everyone to
agree on all these things. So why not spend time promoting an
organization+policy+repository+community that already exists rather than
attempting to start a new one?  

>From what I understand of it (again, I could very easily be overlooking
the whole point somehow), it seems like a very nice, but impractical
suggestion.

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Re: tar cvfz test.tar.gz / gives error while untaring

[Travis Crump]

Oliver Fuchs wrote:
On Sun, 29 Feb 2004, s. keeling wrote:


Check the manpage.  The "f" switch is used to tell tar that the next
parameter is the file to use:
  tar cvzf test.tar.gz /

Instead, cd to someplace with some space, then run it.


Yes, that is right ... my fault.


By default, tar doesn't, so you must have done something wrong.  Try:

  cd /
  tar cvzf /somewhere/test.tgz .
  cd /somewhere
  tar tvzf test.tgz
Note the "."  btw, tarring the whole root dir will tar the entire
filesystem, including everything that's mounted off the root
filesystem.  man tar to find out how not to do that.


Yes surely, I did a lot of --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/dev ... that was not the
problem.
What I do not understand is:
I am in directory /home/me/TAR_EXAMPLE
Now I want to tar directory /tmp for example then I do
tar cvzf temp.test.tar.gz /tmp

Afterwards I receive in the directory /home/me/TAR_EXAMPLE the archive
temp.test.tar.gz which can be untared without any problems.
But ... trying to do

tar cvzf root.test.tar.gz / --exclude=home --exclude=/dev

I receive the archive root.test.tar.gz in directory /home/me/TAR_EXAMPLE
but trying to untar it gives me the mkdir-error-message.
From my tests that error doesn't appear to be fatal and can be ignored.


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debian menu sorting does not work anymore

[Erik Steffl]

  I added the custom sorting to my debian menu configuration, it used 
to work but some time ago it stopped working.

  I have the following in the /etc/menu-methods/menu.h:

# item first, submenu later:
# sort=ifelse($command, "0", "1" ) ":$title"
sort=ifelse($priority, $priority, "99")
  and here's an example of sorted menu entry:

jojda:~> cat /etc/menu/xterm
?package(xterm):\
 needs=x11\
 section="/"\
 longtitle="Xterm: terminal emulator for X"\
 title=Xterm\
 priority="01"\
 command="xterm -fg green -bg black" \
 icon="/usr/X11R6/include/X11/pixmaps/wterm.xpm"
  any ideas why this does not work anymore (the xterm item is just 
alphabetically sorted, appears last instead of first).

  system:

debian unstable
unsorted menu in fvwm
unsorted menu in pdmenu
  TIA

	erik

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mozilla freezes on geocities.com?

[Erik Steffl]

  mozilla seems to be working fairly well but when I went to 
geocities.com it repeatedly froze - the CPU usage went to 100% and 
mozilla windows were not updated at all, X window close didn't work, 
kill -15 worked.

  not sure what triggered freeze, it wasn't a particular page or action 
but it was always on geocities.com (I don't remember mozilla freezeing 
on any other page recently).

  any ideas? similar/different experience? should I file a bug?

	erik

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Lost isa card with Kernel 2.6

[Robert Rati]

I just installed the Debian 2.6.3 kernel for i686 machines and my ISA
PNP card.  I have an old ISA Plug and Play modem that I had working in
kernel 2.4, but can't get 2.6 to recognize.  With the 2.4 kernel, I was
able to disable PNP OS in my Award BIOS, and the 2.4 Linux kernel found
the card as just another serial port.  The 2.6 kernel doesn't appear to
do this.  I tried enabling PNP OS in my BIOS, but that didn't appear to
help anything.  The pnp.txt file with the kernel source wasn't much
help.  Do I have to install the isapnptools package and configure that
like I used to have to?  Any help would be appreciated.

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Re: Kmplayer package

[Carl Fink]

On Sun, Feb 29, 2004 at 09:51:43PM +0100, Slaanesh wrote:

> Does somebody know if a debian package of kmplayer is available 
> somewhere ?

A search at apt-get.org finds three.
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Re: mozilla freezes on geocities.com?

[s. keeling]

Incoming from Erik Steffl:
>   mozilla seems to be working fairly well but when I went to 
> geocities.com it repeatedly froze - the CPU usage went to 100% and 
> mozilla windows were not updated at all, X window close didn't work, 
> kill -15 worked.

You're obviously mistaken.  I see nothing like that here.
geocities.com lands me at geocities.yahoo.com with no problem.

However, you said nothing about details in your post.  Which mozilla,
which debian distribution, how are you connecting, ...


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Re: headless firewall application recommendation

[David Clymer]

On Sun, 2004-02-29 at 00:40, MJ Inabnit wrote:
> Greetings:
> 
> I am looking for recommendations for firewall/router software for
> Debian.  I have looked over several packages, but I feel swamped.  I
> used an old Woody CD for very basic install, updated kernel and then
> upgraded the system to Sarge.  All is working great, so far.  Now I
> want to use this computer as a firewall to connect other computers in
> the house LAN to the internet (safely).  I am no expert and firewall
> rules cause me to stagger in my chair, so I am looking for a package
> that will set good default rules for the LAN, yet can be tweaked if I
> get the urge to open a port for a game etc.  Also, the system will be
> without keyboard/mouse/monitor, so I want to avoid instlling X on it.
> 

Try shorewall.

-davidc


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Re: Lightweight Alternative to Mozilla-Firebird

[Peter A. Cole]

On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 10:04:46 -0500
"S.D.A." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> 
> Yeah really?! You can read/write an e-mail while Sylpheed is pulling
> down mesages? Cool -- not being able to b4 is the primary reason I 
> left it, for Mozilla.
> 
> I liked it's ability to reply with higlighted material quoted.
> That's something Mozilla/Thunderbird haven't implemented yet.
> 
> -- 
Yep you can now. In fact it's downloading mail right now as I type.

I also like that feature actually, it's very handy at keeping your mind on what your 
responding to!

Pete


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Re: Fetchmail Query

[Peter A. Cole]

On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 15:37:52 +0100
Oliver Fuchs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> 
> 1) Did you recreate the sendmail.cf file with e.g. sendmailconfig.

Yep, I ran sendmailconfig telling it to use the existing files.

> 2) No I only have the feature added to my sendmail.mc.

There goes that idea  :-)

> 3) In my .fetchmailrc I have at the beginning this options:
> 
> [...]
> set bouncemail
> set spambounce
> set properties ""
> [...]
> 
> 
> Good luck
> 
> Oliver
> -- 
Thanks Oliver, I've set --nobounce in /etc/defaults/fetchmail but I'll check what the 
other two do as well.

At the moment I'm sidetracked by mimedefang slaves dieing prematurely and preventing 
me getting mail. I've had to take it out of the loop temporarily  :-(

Pete


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Re: gpg & mutt

[Paul Johnson]

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> See my other post in this thread.  They all came from /etc/Muttrc.

I would recommend when you make changes to make changes only to your
personal ~/.muttrc.  Changing the /etc/Muttrc defaults may leave you
in a spot where you can't fall back to something reasonably sane.

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sms-gateway

[Ross Tsolakidis]

Hi all,

I'm looking for a way to send the subject of an email via SMS.
Is this possible with any packages thru Debian ?

Can anyone direct me to any information about SMS > Email ?

Do I require a Mobile Phone company to be part of this process ?  Eg,
Use their gateway ?  Or can I do it all myself ?

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Re: gpg & mutt

[Paul Johnson]

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On Sun, Feb 29, 2004 at 10:31:09AM -0700, s. keeling wrote:
> Incoming from S.D.A.:
> > I'm having some difficulty getting pgp to work with mutt (1.5.6).
> .^^^
> 
> pgp or gpg?  My mutt is 1.3.28i (Woody).  gpg (GnuPG) 1.2.2

A lot of people say pgp when they mean any OpenPGP compliant program.

> > The problem I'm having is that mutt can't seem to find my keys. I've
> 
> Do you have "gpa"?  That's a cute little gui for managing keys.
> Perhaps that's where you say which is your default?  Anyway, all my
> gpg stuff is in ~/.gnupg, and how it all works is defined in
> ~/.gnupg/options.  In mutt, I have these (all fairly stock, from
> /etc/Muttrc):

kgpg is also really handy if you use KDE.

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