Re: Kernel upgrade time

2003-12-04 Thread David Palmer.
On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 15:15:06 -0800
Tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 06:54:54AM +0800, David Palmer. wrote:
> 
> > This is just the manifestation of a career CIA mentality torturing
> > itself.
> 
> George H.W. Bush was CIA director under Gerald Ford.  Rummey was 
> Secretary of defense.  This was after Watergate and all the old CIA guys 
> got fired.
> 
> By the way, those guys then formed "The Company" and started getting 
> funding for blackops by smuggling cocaine in through South America.  
> That's how we got involved in Central America in the 1980's, and it's 
> the primary reason coke was so popular (ironic, since Pepsi was at that 
> time a front company for the CIA).
> 
> Richard Nixon was a lawyer for the Pepsi-cola company and flew out of 
> Dallas as a lawyer for Pepsi the day Kennedy was shot.  Before the CIA 
> switched to pushing cocaine, their primary source of income was Heroin, 
> shipped into Miami via the Mafia.  We flew rice into Laos during the 
> Vietman war so the farmers could free up their land to grow poppies.  
> The opium was refined into heroin at a Pepsi plant in Laos, and then 
> into Miami.
> 
> The primary purpose of blackops funding was assisnating Eastern european 
> leaders and various murderous acts.  The human body holds about five 
> gallons of blood.  A swimming pool holds about 25,000 gallons of fluid.  
> Most of our coups and overthrows were small, just one or two swimming 
> pools.  Some of the things we did filled up a dozen pools (mostly in 
> Southeast Asia).
> 
> All of this came out during the Iran-Contra hearings in the 1980s and 
> was documented in the graphic novel "Brought To Light" by Alan Moore, of 
> Watchmen and Miracleman fame.
> 
> If you're going to bitch, don't be boring.

I don't know what you are talking about.
I'm having a conversation, you need a competition.
Grow up on your own time.
Regards,

David.


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Re: How do I temporally disable gdm? (or is it gpm)

2003-12-04 Thread Johann Spies
On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 08:32:25PM -0800, Mark Healey wrote:
> I've received a number of suggesions for my X problem.  Before I try
> any of them I'd like to disable my graphical login screen.  It is
> either gpm or gdm.  I can't remember which one is the login screen and
> which is the console mouse driver.
> 
> Anyway,  I'm hoping that there is a line in a file I can comment out.

/etc/init.d/gdm stop

or use update-rc.d or rcconf to manipulate the runlevels in
/etc/init.d  

See the manpages.

Regards
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Re: FHS and other things Mark should have read with comprehension (was Re: unchecked 31 times)

2003-12-04 Thread Marc Wilson
On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 12:17:52PM -0800, Mark Ferlatte wrote:
> Minor nit: netatalk requires a device node in /var to support Appletalk
> printing.  Admittedly, for most people, this is not an issue.

Not arguing, but what device node?  Where?  When did this start?  What
creates it?  The package doesn't own any files in /var, and I can't see
anywhere in its postinst that it creates such a node.

I print to an ethertalk-interfaced LaserWriter all the time... if it was
supposed to be there, and wasn't, I don't think I'd be printing much.

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Re: [OT] Slashdot and media accuracy (was Re: Improved Debian Project Emergency Communications)

2003-12-04 Thread Tom
On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 12:53:29PM +0800, David Palmer. wrote:

> Two parties, sharing power, no difference between the two other than
> name.

I used to be like that, all mad at everybody.  The internal assumption 
that validates it to yourself is "I could do it much better, if only..."

Once I had a few experiences I have a lot more sympathies for 
politicians.  They're doing the best they can with an absurd situation. 

You can't underestimate just how random the combined opinions of 
thousands of people with every viewpoint under the sun are.  I know *I* 
couldn't do any better.


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libvorbis0-dev missing

2003-12-04 Thread Arash Bijanzadeh
It seems to me that libvorbis package is missing from the repository of sarge. 
Trying to install kdelibs4-dev depends on libvorbis0-dev in a tree that could 
not be satisfied.
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Re: Kernel upgrade time

2003-12-04 Thread Tom
On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 12:46:06PM +0800, David Palmer. wrote:
> 
> I don't know what you are talking about.

I'm fucking with your head by appearing to argue with you while offering 
arguments that bolster what you believe :-)

Bizarre, ain't it?


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Re: ye olde upgrade vs. dist-upgrade

2003-12-04 Thread Marc Wilson
On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 08:41:27PM -0800, Bill Moseley wrote:
> Is there a reason to use or not use dist-upgrade on Woody machines for
> security updates?

Is there a reason to not actually bother reading the man page for apt-get
and learning the difference between the two targets?

'upgrade'   - apt CAN'T change a package's installation state
'dist-upgrade'  - apt CAN change a package's installation state

Further details I leave to the man page.

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Re: Ethernet card not detected - where is YAST2 ?

2003-12-04 Thread Oliver Fuchs
On Wed, 03 Dec 2003, Sebastia Altemir wrote:

> My LINEX (Spanish Debian with 2.4.20 kernel) instaled ok,
> but the ethernet card was not detected, so nothing (eth0) was instaled.
> 
> "lspci -v" says "02.0c.0 MYSON Tech Inc : unknown device 0803".
> 
> If I run "modprobe fealnx", it runs OK (lsmod displays (unused))
> then "ifconfig eth0 1.2.3.4 ..." goes ok ( lsmod display "(1)"),
> and I can "ping" near computers.
> 
> My old SuSE 8.2 had YAST2 to re-install such things.
> What must I do under Debian ?
> 
> Thanks ! Sebastian.

Load the net-module for your ethernet-card with "modconf" and
try package etherconf; do "dpkg --reconfigure etherconf"

Oliver
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Re: [OT] Slashdot and media accuracy (was Re: Improved Debian Project Emergency Communications)

2003-12-04 Thread Tom
On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 05:36:18PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:

> Granted.  But that's why I go to a real Taco Bell instead.  Or,
> politically speaking, why I was driven to socialism.

You'll change.  You're Echo Boomer.  Your parents, the Baby Boomers, 
went from being WWII babies, to Hippies, to Disco, to Yuppies, to Soccer 
Moms, to Stock Market People.  All that you believe will pass away.


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Re: APT::Default-Release doesn't seem to affect upgrades

2003-12-04 Thread Ross Boylan
On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 01:46:20AM +, Carlos Sousa wrote:
> On Tue, 2 Dec 2003 22:57:31 -0800 Ross Boylan wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 02:14:17AM +, Carlos Sousa wrote:
> > > 
> > > You can do 'apt-cache policy | less' and check that the priorities
> > > assigned to the various sources are the ones you think you've specified.
> > > I once had a syntax error in the preferences file and apt completely
> > > disregarded the file. Possibly your case?
> > Don't think so.  apt-cache policy shows one unstable entry, priority
> > 50.
> > 
> > Maybe there is an upgrade that depends on an uninstalled package that
> > is only in unstable.  And then the presence of that package pulls in
> > others?
> 
> It also may be the case that the version in unstable is the same as the
> version in testing, in which case apt-get will get the package from
> either testing or unstable, since it's the same.
> 
> Easy enough to check both theories. Do an 'apt-cache policy '
> for the packages that are being pulled from unstable, and check the
> versions in either distribution.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
We have a winner.  Every single package that I checked that apt-get -s
said was from unstable had the same version in testing and unstable.

I'd almost file a wishlist bug about it, but as I recall there was
quite a stack of more pressing issues for apt.

Thanks, Carlos.


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Re: Status of Bug Tracking System

2003-12-04 Thread Ross Boylan
On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 02:06:25AM +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> On 2003-12-04 06:03:33 +0900, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> > Yes, at least partially. But I have the same problem as you: I didn't
> > receive the acknowledgments, though I've just seen that they were
> > sent, e.g. on
> > 
> >   http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=222530&msg=2
> > 
> > for one of my bugs. It seems that it has been lost.
> 
> I've now received the acknowledgement.
> 
In my case, the bugs didn't show up when I looked for bug reports on
the package.  However, I finally got confirmations, so perhaps things
are unstuck.


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status of "people" server?

2003-12-04 Thread Carsten Bleek
Hi,

does anyone knows the status of the "people.debian.org" server?
I know that it was taken off, cause of the compromitation of some
debian servers, but this was 10 days ago.
The Problem:
I want to get a cyrus backport from:
deb http://people.debian.org/~hmh/woody/ hmh/cyrus/
Since 2 days I guess, the location results into a redirection loop.

Anybody knows something about the status?
Or is there a mirror available?
regards

Carsten

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Sound problems

2003-12-04 Thread nemesisdivina
Greetings:

I kinda wondering what happen with my sound, the thing is that whenever
I'm logged in as root the soun server work with out problem, but if I log
off and login as a regular user the sound desapear, and I end up with no
sound.

Besides, did debian use the same policy as redhat did regarding mp3 files,
cuz  every time I try to listen to an mp3 files it hang xmms.

Well any help will be appreciated

Have a good night everyone,
Didier



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xinerama 2 monitors help

2003-12-04 Thread kmark+debian-user
Hi Debianistas,
I'm trying to setup 2 monitors.
one is a isa t9680 (cirrus logic) - max 800x640 8bit
and the other is a ati 1024x768 16 bit. 

I had the ati working and then I added the isa card. Ever since then, the isa is the 
only one recognized.
I did a X -configure but it did not work 100% although I used it as a
template and have since modified it to almost work. first, the original
'X -configure' did not work but then I changed it so now the modified
one does not 'crash and burn' but now instead I have the modifed config
that contains a refernce to both cards with the result being that the isa displays ok 
and the other does not respond.

for the sake of ease, I setup both to do 800x600 at 8 bit since both can
do this.

if anyone can make a suggestion, please do.

include is my /etc/X11/XF86config-4
and /var/log/XF86.0.log

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "XFree86 Configured"
#   Screen  0  "Screen0" 0 0
Screen  0  "Screen1" 0 0
#   Screen  1  "Screen1" RightOf "Screen0"
InputDevice"Mouse0" "CorePointer"
InputDevice"Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
Option  "Xinerama" "On"
EndSection

Section "Files"
RgbPath  "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
ModulePath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"
EndSection

Section "Module"
Load"GLcore"
Load"bitmap"
Load"dbe"
Load"ddc"
Load"dri"
Load"extmod"
Load"freetype"
#   Load"glx"
Load"int10"
Load"record"
#   Load"speedo"
Load"type1"
Load"vbe"
#   Load"xtt"
Load  "record"
Load  "xtrap"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Keyboard0"
Driver  "keyboard"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Mouse0"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "Protocol" "PS/2"
Option  "Device" "/dev/mouse"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier   "Monitor0"
VendorName   "Monitor Vendor"
ModelName"Monitor Model"
HorizSync   30-60
VertRefresh 50-75
Option  "DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier   "Monitor1"
VendorName   "Monitor Vendor"
ModelName"Monitor Model"
HorizSync   30-60
VertRefresh 50-75
Option  "DPMS"
EndSection

#Section "Device"
#Option "ShadowFB"  # []
#   Identifier  "Card0"
#   Driver  "vesa"
#   BusID   "ISA"
#EndSection

Section "Device"
#Option "ShadowFB"  # []
Identifier  "Card1"
#   Driver  "vesa"
Driver  "ati"
VendorName  "ATI"
BoardName   "Mach64 VU"
ChipSet "ati"
ChipId  0x5655
ChipRev 0x9a
#   BusID   "PCI:0:8:0"
EndSection


#Section "Screen"
#   Identifier "Screen0"
#   Device "Card0"
#   Monitor"Monitor0"
#   DefaultDepth 8
#   SubSection "Display"
#   Depth 8
#   Modes "800x600"
#   EndSubSection
#EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen1"
Device "Card1"
Monitor"Monitor1"
DefaultDepth 8
SubSection "Display"
Depth 8
Modes "800x600"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 16
Modes   "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
EndSection


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Re: Sound problems

2003-12-04 Thread Andreas Janssen
Hello

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

> I kinda wondering what happen with my sound, the thing is that
> whenever I'm logged in as root the soun server work with out problem,
> but if I log off and login as a regular user the sound desapear, and I
> end up with no sound.

Check if the user is in the audio group.

> Besides, did debian use the same policy as redhat did regarding mp3
> files, cuz  every time I try to listen to an mp3 files it hang xmms.

Not that I am aware of. Debian Woody includes support for mp3, for
example through mp3blaster or xmms.

best regards
Andreas Janssen

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Re: Filters in Evolution

2003-12-04 Thread Ross Boylan
On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 12:37:18PM +0100, Joerg Johannes wrote:
> Hi everybody
> 
> I have a strange problem in Evolution. I have defined a lot of filters
> to move mails from my inbox to certain folders. This works great for
> e.g. the debian-user mailinglist (every mail is moved to the folder
> debian-user). Mails that are filtered via the Subject: or From: headers
> are not moved to their folders but copied (even if I choose the "Move to
> folder" option). Obviously, the mails are detected correctly, but the
> action carried out is wrong (cp instead of mv). Has anybody else seen
> this behaviour? If yes, how do I correct/work around it?
> 
> Thanks,
> joerg
> 


The default evolution setup, as I recall, showed deleted messages.  I
think evolution always does a move as a copy and delete.  So you might
check your "show deleted messages" setting.

There are also various options controlling when evolution really
purges the deleted messages.

None of these remarks have any bearing on why Subject or From don't
work and mailing list filters do, so they may not help.


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Re: Sound problems

2003-12-04 Thread Nick Hastings
Hi,

* [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [031204 18:03]:
> Greetings:
> 
> I kinda wondering what happen with my sound, the thing is that whenever
> I'm logged in as root the soun server work with out problem, but if I log
> off and login as a regular user the sound desapear, and I end up with no
> sound.

Sounds like you need to add yourself to the audio group. man vigr, or
use one off the command line tools that I'm sure others on the list will
mention.

> Besides, did debian use the same policy as redhat did regarding mp3 files,
> cuz  every time I try to listen to an mp3 files it hang xmms.

What policy would that be? My guess is that you need to configure or
install one of the xmms plugins. Can you play mp3 files with other
programs. eg mpg321?

Cheers,

Nick.

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Re: The lost cramfs patch (was: Debian Investigation Report after Server Compromises)

2003-12-04 Thread Florian Ernst
Hello Benedict!

On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 12:06:35AM +0100, Benedict Verheyen wrote:
Heh. Then it's kind of logical that i don't find any package ;)
Well, It's simply that I don't know about a place for downloading it,
but this doesn't necessarily mean there isn't any... ;)
It's indeed mentioned that you don't need one for a single machine.
Anyway, even if you do use an initrd, you can do it without cramfs
apparently by chagning the mkinitrd.conf file
There you have to change the MKINITRD but i'm not sure what
you can put in place of the mkcramfs there.
I just read you could use romfs instead of cramfs by using genromfs,
but as I actually have never had the need to use initrd at all I
simply cannot be sure.
Cheers,
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Re: Murdering those mutt-gpg key retrievals

2003-12-04 Thread Florian Ernst
Hello Brian!

On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 04:45:16PM -0600, Brian McGroarty wrote:
Automatic key retrieval is nice, however it also makes for very slow
mail reading if it's done inside of mutt.
Has anyone set up procmail to prefetch unknown keys automatically? I
thought I remembered some mention of this previously, however my list
search is turning up a blank.
http://www.procmail.org/ links to some interesting tips and manuals,
at least one mentions this topic, see
http://pm-doc.sourceforge.net/pm-tips-body.html#procmail_and_pgp
Cheers,
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Re: [OT] Slashdot and media accuracy (was Re: Improved Debian Project Emergency Communications)

2003-12-04 Thread David Palmer.
On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 23:01:13 -0800
Tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 12:53:29PM +0800, David Palmer. wrote:
> 
> > Two parties, sharing power, no difference between the two other than
> > name.
> 
> I used to be like that, all mad at everybody.  The internal assumption
> 
> that validates it to yourself is "I could do it much better, if
> only..."
> 
> Once I had a few experiences I have a lot more sympathies for 
> politicians.  They're doing the best they can with an absurd
> situation. 
> 
> You can't underestimate just how random the combined opinions of 
> thousands of people with every viewpoint under the sun are.  I know
> *I* couldn't do any better.
> 
> 
I'm not mad at anyone.
If there is a form of arrogance that displays a lack of experience, it's
analysis at a distance.
Put all politicians on a wage of $500.00/week, and make it a capital
offense to take a political bribe, and you would get the ones that want
to do the job for the right reasons.
Regards,

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Re: Installing Printer - CUPS

2003-12-04 Thread Dr.-Ing. C. Hurschler
That should help, I also found out from the LinuxPrinting page that my printer 
uses pnm2ppa, not hpijs.  I had read tha hpijs part from some other FAQ.

Thanks,

Chris

Am Donnerstag, 4. Dezember 2003 00:23 schrieb Andrew Schulman:
> > I'm having trouble getting my local printer working (HP Deskjet 710C) .
> > I'm running woody with KDE3.1.4.
> >
> > I've installed: cupsys cupsys-client cupsys-bsd cupsomatic-ppd a2ps mpage
> > enscript cupsys-driver-gimpprint pnm2ppa foomatic-db gsfonts-other hpijs
> >
> > cat /proc/sys/dev/parport/parport0/autoprobe
> >
> > shows my printer, and I've got the modules parport and parport_pc loaded.
> >
> > I installed the printer using the Control-Center:Peripherals:Printer and
> > tried printing a test page, which shows up as a print job and is
> > "processed" but never reaches the printer.
> >
> > there are no erros in the cups log files.
> >
> > Does anyone have a tip for what I can try next?
>
> In /etc/cups/cupsd.conf, crank LogLevel up to "debug".  Restart cupsd,
> print another job, and look in the log files again.  Chances are excellent
> that you'll see the problem (too-restrictive directory permissions in /var
> spool/cups?).
>
> Good luck,
> Andrew.

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Re: Kernel upgrade time

2003-12-04 Thread David Palmer.
On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 23:09:44 -0800
Tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 12:46:06PM +0800, David Palmer. wrote:
> > 
> > I don't know what you are talking about.
> 
> I'm fucking with your head by appearing to argue with you while offering 
> arguments that bolster what you believe :-)
> 
> Bizarre, ain't it?
> 
Tommy boy, you haven't got what it takes to screw with my head.
Regards,

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status of "people" server?

2003-12-04 Thread Carsten Bleek
Hi,

does anyone knows the status of the "people.debian.org" server?
I know that it was taken off, cause of the compromitation of some
debian servers, but this was 10 days ago.
The Problem:
I want to get a cyrus backport from:
deb http://people.debian.org/~hmh/woody/ hmh/cyrus/
Since 2 days I guess, the location results into a redirection loop.

Anybody knows something about the status?
Or is there a mirror available?
regards

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Re: xinerama 2 monitors help

2003-12-04 Thread Alvin Oga


hi ya kmark

you need to define BOTH screen 0  and screen 1
- you probably want to uncomment your second screen 1 comment

see below

- basically you need to have:
2 screen definitions
2 device definitions
"serverlayout" that calls out both screens

- you can experiment w/ xinerama off first ...
boot into X11 .. regular way

root#  export  DISPLAY=:0.1
root#  xterm -bg black -fg white 

if the xterm popped up in the other screen ..
you're all set

turn on xinerama ... and have fun 

- watch out for unsupported modules like dri in older svga cards

more dual screen fun  ( lots of howto )
http://www.Linux-1U.net/X11/Dual

c ya
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On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hi Debianistas,
> I'm trying to setup 2 monitors.
> one is a isa t9680 (cirrus logic) - max 800x640 8bit
> and the other is a ati 1024x768 16 bit. 
> 
> I had the ati working and then I added the isa card. Ever since then, the isa is the 
> only one recognized.
> I did a X -configure but it did not work 100% although I used it as a
> template and have since modified it to almost work. first, the original
> 'X -configure' did not work but then I changed it so now the modified
> one does not 'crash and burn' but now instead I have the modifed config
> that contains a refernce to both cards with the result being that the isa displays 
> ok and the other does not respond.
> 
> for the sake of ease, I setup both to do 800x600 at 8 bit since both can
> do this.
> 
> if anyone can make a suggestion, please do.
> 
> include is my /etc/X11/XF86config-4
> and /var/log/XF86.0.log
> 
> Section "ServerLayout"
>   Identifier "XFree86 Configured"
> # Screen  0  "Screen0" 0 0
>   Screen  0  "Screen1" 0 0
> # Screen  1  "Screen1" RightOf "Screen0"

^^

you need this line above ... take away the "#"

>   InputDevice"Mouse0" "CorePointer"
>   InputDevice"Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
>   Option  "Xinerama" "On"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "Files"
>   RgbPath  "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
>   ModulePath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"
>   FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"
>   FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/"
>   FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"
>   FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "Module"
>   Load"GLcore"
>   Load"bitmap"
>   Load"dbe"
>   Load"ddc"
>   Load"dri"
>   Load"extmod"
>   Load"freetype"
> # Load"glx"
>   Load"int10"
>   Load"record"
> # Load"speedo"
>   Load"type1"
>   Load"vbe"
> # Load"xtt"
>   Load  "record"
>   Load  "xtrap"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "InputDevice"
>   Identifier  "Keyboard0"
>   Driver  "keyboard"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "InputDevice"
>   Identifier  "Mouse0"
>   Driver  "mouse"
>   Option  "Protocol" "PS/2"
>   Option  "Device" "/dev/mouse"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "Monitor"
>   Identifier   "Monitor0"
>   VendorName   "Monitor Vendor"
>   ModelName"Monitor Model"
>   HorizSync   30-60
>   VertRefresh 50-75
>   Option  "DPMS"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "Monitor"
>   Identifier   "Monitor1"
>   VendorName   "Monitor Vendor"
>   ModelName"Monitor Model"
>   HorizSync   30-60
>   VertRefresh 50-75
>   Option  "DPMS"
> EndSection
> 
> #Section "Device"
> #Option "ShadowFB"# []
> # Identifier  "Card0"
> # Driver  "vesa"
> # BusID   "ISA"
> #EndSection
> 
> Section "Device"
> #Option "ShadowFB"# []
>   Identifier  "Card1"
> # Driver  "vesa"
>   Driver  "ati"
>   VendorName  "ATI"
>   BoardName   "Mach64 VU"
>   ChipSet "ati"
>   ChipId  0x5655
>   ChipRev 0x9a
> # BusID   "PCI:0:8:0"
> EndSection



 you need a 2nd deive section definig your other SVGA card


> 
> #Section "Screen"
> # Identifier "Screen0"
> # Device "Card0"
> # Monitor"Monitor0"
> # DefaultDepth 8
> # SubSection "Display"
> # Depth 8
> # Modes "800x600"
> # EndSubSection
> #EndSection


===
=== you need to uncommoent the screen0 definitions 
===

> Section "Screen"
>   Identifier "Screen1"
>   Device "Card1"
>   Monitor"Monitor1"
>   DefaultDepth 8
>   SubSection "Display"
>   Depth 8
>   Modes "800x600"
>   EndSubSection
>   SubSection "Display"
>   Depth 16
>   Modes   "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
>   EndSubSection
> EndSection
> 
> 
> This is a pre-release version of XFree86, and i

Re: Installing Printer - CUPS

2003-12-04 Thread Dr.-Ing. C. Hurschler
I assume you mean the FAQ from LinuxPrinting.org, which I had overlooked last 
night.  Thanks.

Am Donnerstag, 4. Dezember 2003 02:04 schrieb Leandro GuimarÃes Faria Corsetti 
Dutra:
> Em Wed, 03 Dec 2003 20:47:37 +0100, Dr.-Ing. C. Hurschler escreveu:
> > a tip for what I can try next?
>
>   Following the troubleshooting section in the CUPS FAQ perhaps.
>
>
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Re: FHS and other things Mark should have read with comprehension (was Re: unchecked 31 times)

2003-12-04 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 12:17:52PM -0800, Mark Ferlatte ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Karsten M. Self said on Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 06:15:29AM -0800:
> > See, variously, the FHS, and my own partitioning guidelines:
> > 
> > http://twiki.iwethey.org/Main/NixPartitioning
>  
> Good page.  I should have known about the Jihad.

;-)   Thanks.

I'll have to re-check my sizing recommendations for /.  Current stock
kernels run ~23 MiB with all modules.  This plus journal files leaves me
pinched on a couple of systems with what was once an adequate 96 MiB.
Depending on kernel growth, 200 MiB or more might not be unwarranted.
Much revision of /etc might help here.

> > - /var need only be writeable and executable (nodev, nosuid). 
> 
> Minor nit: netatalk requires a device node in /var to support Appletalk
> printing.  Admittedly, for most people, this is not an issue.

While it's not current policy, the practice of sequestering _all_ device
files under /dev would be *highly* encouraged by this punter.  Both
devfs (deprecated) and hotplug should help in this regard.


> >   - Minimal damage.  Any actions affecting a partition are limited to
> > that partition.
> > 
> >   - Minimal damage.  The probabilities of corruption of a partition are
> > directly proportional to its size.  Minimize the size, minimize this
> > likelihood.
>  
> I think I'm approaching this problem from a difference perspective; it
> takes less time for me to rebuild a system from scratch than it would
> to recover the system partitions (automated rebuild and system config
> recovery and all that), so this problem doesn't really affect me much.

There are a few different viewpoints to this.

Given that 30% of spam is reported (Inquirer news story 3 Dec) to
originate from broadband-connected systems, minimizing the exposed
vulnerabilities of _any_ system should be a high priority.
Specifically:  allow device and SUID access only where absolutely
necessary, keep system partitions mounted read-only if possible, protect
and/or isolate your kernel(s).



> > Well, for starters, /tmp *is* cleared between system boots, and is
> > appropriate for data which *must* not be preserved between boots.  The
> > definitions are not identical, the directories are not equivalent.
>  
> Your definition above is much stricter than what the FHS actually says, and
> under your definition /tmp and /var/tmp are not equivalent.  Fair enough.

The FHS allows for what Debian policy requires.


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Re: Debian Investigation Report after Server Compromises

2003-12-04 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 10:33:34AM -0700, Dr. MacQuigg ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> After reading the report at 
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-announce/debian-announce-2003/msg3.html 
> and following this newsgroup discussion, I have some very basic questions:
> 
> 1)  What is a "sniffed password", and how do they know the attacker used a 
> password that was "sniffed", rather than just stolen out of someone's 
> notebook?

Through the grapevine:  a DD's personal system or another remote system
he used was cracked.  His password(s) were sniffed from this.  His own
personal security practices were less than stellar, by his own
admission.  My understanding is that this was the route by which Debian
Project boxes were compromised.

> 2)  Was the breakin done remotely, or by someone with physical access to 
> the machine or network?  

In the case of the first system(s), this isn't fully clear.

> 3)  How does an attacker with a user-level password gain root access?  

Through a local root exploit, as is clearly described in the
announcement quoted in URLs above, using the kernel brk() buffer
overflow.

A proof-of-concept exploit (it crashes but doesn't root a system) has
been posted to BugTraq.

> I understand you can call system services that have root access, and
> provide bad data in those calls that will cause buffer overflows,
> maybe even a machine crash, but how does a buffer overflow allow root
> access?  

It can.  In this case, it did.  Briefly:  you're messing with kernel
memory space.  That's stuff in ring 0, running with full system privs.
You do the math.

See BugTraq for more info.

http://www.securityfocus.com/archive/1/346180/2003-12-01/2003-12-07/0
http://www.securityfocus.com/archive/1/346175/2003-12-01/2003-12-07/2


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Re: Kernel upgrade time

2003-12-04 Thread Tom
On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 07:16:48PM +0800, David Palmer. wrote:
> Tommy boy, you haven't got what it takes to screw with my head.

Okay.  Just out of curiousity, are you older or younger than 30: those 
of us older can remember what the world was like when we were all pretty 
sure the nukes were gonna fall on Tuesday.

That's why .au had so much internet first: y'all were gonna be the 
rallying point for our subs, after all of Amerika was burnt up.


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Re: Spam loads (was Re: How to post to linux.debian.user)

2003-12-04 Thread Dave
On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 14:20:18 +0100, "Karsten M. Self" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>on Tue, Dec 02, 2003 at 10:02:20PM -0600, Scott C. Linnenbringer 
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>> On Tue, Dec 02, 2003, at 17:53 -0700, Dr. MacQuigg wrote:
>
>> > P.S.  The requirement to use a real email address in this public
>> > mailing list is a big problem.
>
>Not strictly required, but encouraged.
>
>> I, myself, use virus filters for procmail which work excellently. :)
>
>For those of us dealing with Swen to the tune of 300-600 MiB daily of
>mail over dialup, the situation's rather less friendly.  I've got very
>effective filters.  And there are now some specialized tools for dealing
>with Swen.  However, these will be of limited use the _next_ time a
>mass-mailing, heavy-payload worm propogates.  Particularly if it uses a
>wider range of subject/from headers, and/or has differently-sized
>payloads.  Swen was pretty easy to spot at 144 KiB + a fixed set of
>addresses and subject tokens.
>
>While more ISPs are offering mail filtering, most have pretty broken
>tools.  SMTP-time rejection + teergrubing is highly preferred.
>Newcomers to the 'Net have some very serious issues to deal with.

Both of my ISPs are filtering Swen ( at my request, since other users were 
not has heavily affected ).  My spam load has been about 20 per day, 
including 2 or 3 Swen that manage to get past the filters.  I can delete 
these in a few minutes, so I haven't felt the need yet to research spam 
filters.

In the last two days, my load has increased to about 100 per day, mostly 
Swen, all using the email address which I posted to this group, which has 
gotten only a few Swen in the past.  The interesting thing about the new 
load is that instead of just the message text and a note that the 
attachment was deleted, these are arriving with the payload intact, which 
triggers my Norton AV and causes an annoying interruption.  They come in 
batches, so I have to spend a couple of minutes dealing with repeated 
alarms from Norton.  I can't just ignore these, or my email program stalls.

From now on, I will be much more careful in newsgroups, and use only a 
throw-away address.

--Dave



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Re: Kernel upgrade time

2003-12-04 Thread Hoyt Bailey

- Original Message - 
From: "Tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 17:18
Subject: Re: Kernel upgrade time


> On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 03:15:06PM -0800, Tom wrote:
> > leaders and various murderous acts.  The human body holds about five

Fact: Closer to 5 pints than 5 gallons.

> > gallons of blood.  A swimming pool holds about 25,000 gallons of fluid.
>
> Sorry, I forgot how my story goes: the human body holds about 1 gallon
> of blood.  It's been 13 years since I told this story much.
>
> > If you're going to bitch, don't be boring.
>



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Re: Debian Investigation Report after Server Compromises

2003-12-04 Thread Dave
Sorry for the duplicate post.  The first one did not appear for a long 
time, and I assumed it was because I used the wrong email address.

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Re: [OT] Slashdot and media accuracy (was Re: Improved Debian Project Emergency Communications)

2003-12-04 Thread Hoyt Bailey

- Original Message - 
From: "Monique Y. Herman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 14:14
Subject: Re: [OT] Slashdot and media accuracy (was Re: Improved Debian
Project Emergency Communications)


> On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 at 20:04 GMT, Tom penned:
> > On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 07:12:33AM -0500, Paul Morgan wrote:
> >>
> >> And everyone seems to SHOUT on Fox.
> >
> > I like it when we take turns.  I hope the left will play nice on the
> > playground and accept that we're alternating decades.  They had a nice
> > long run with Clinton following a nice long run with Reagan.  It would
> > be rude not to let the right have a nice long turn.
> >
> > I will be vehemently against the left in this election but in 2008 it
> > will be their turn again, *if* they can exhibit the patience and
> > maturity.  It will be so lovely if we play nice with each other and
> > take nice turns.
> >
>
> I tend to think that the reason you're okay with the right and the left
> taking turns is that, for the most part, the politicians on both sides
> are nothing but center.  I'm sick of republicrats and democricans alike.
>
> -- 
> monique "two-party systems suck"
>
We dont have a two party system.  There is the green party,  comunist party,
independent party and several others.  The problem is only 1% or so support
them (All of them).
Hoyt



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Re: SMTP setup question (Solved)

2003-12-04 Thread Anim Asante
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Debian User
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 03 December 2003 08:37
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: SMTP setup question
> 
> 
> i think you have to go under _advanced_ options for
> the particular 
> user. there, you can select the stmp server you wish
> to use. 
> 
> there is also a link in the user account window for
> server selection.
> i have my local smtp server for some accounts and an
> open relay 
> for others using the same mozilla session.
> 
> At Wednesday, 3 December 2003, Anim Asante
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >--- "Kent West" [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: > 
> >
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Kent West [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Sent: 02 December 2003 03:46
> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Subject: Re: SMTP setup question
> >
> >> Anim Asante wrote:
> >
> >>>Hi All,
> >>>
> >>>I have signed up with two ISPs and I tried to set
> >>up
> >>> my Mozilla mail for the second mail account.
> >>>Mozilla
> >>>mail would not let me set up a second SMTP. 
> >>>
> >>>My question is if I send a mail from the second
> >>>account, which SMTP server will be used? What can
> I
> >>do
> >>>about it?
> >>>
> >>>Regards
> >>>Anim
> >>  
> >>
> >
> >> I'm running Thunderbird right now, but IIRC,
> Mozilla
> >> has the same option. Under the SMTP Server
> settings
> >> is an Advanced button that will let you set a
> second
> >> SMTP server. Of course, you have to go in and
> change
> >> which server you use each time you need to change
> it
> >> (which is a pain, and could be handled better).
> >>  
> >> If you're dialed into ISP2 and your SMTP Server
> is
> >> set to ISP1, chances are real good that your mail
> >
> >> won't go through, because ISP1 won't relay 
> >> for ISP2. It _might_ work, but probably not.
> You'll
> >> instead have to go into Options and change the >
> > >
> >> default SMTP server each time you change 
> >> your ISP.
> >
> >> There might be some sort of extension to add a
> >> quick-change link on the 
> >> menus/toolbar, but I'm not aware of such (but
> then,
> >> I've never looked 
> >> for it either).
> >
> >> -- 
> >> Kent
> >
> >Thanks, Kent. I will have a look at it. 
> >
> >Regards
> >Anim Asante

Hi All,

As suggested by Kent West and John Peter, the Advanced
button allowed me to setup another SMTP server. 

Thanks to all who helped to solve this problem. I do
appreciate it so much.

Regards
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Re: Kernel upgrade time

2003-12-04 Thread Tom
On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 06:41:30AM -0600, Hoyt Bailey wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 03:15:06PM -0800, Tom wrote:
> 
> Fact: Closer to 5 pints than 5 gallons.
> 
> > > gallons of blood.  A swimming pool holds about 25,000 gallons of fluid.
> >
> > Sorry, I forgot how my story goes: the human body holds about 1 gallon
> > of blood.  It's been 13 years since I told this story much.

Yeah, I butchered that part of the story.  I wonder if I can still find 
my copy of "Brought to Light".  That and the "Butter Battle Book" helped 
me form my worldview -- I'm fully aware (in quantitative terms) of all 
the murders and evil our side has done, and yet I know at a deeper level 
the guys who did it are on my side and aren't scary.

I guess if you're not on my side they're scary.


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Re: Broadcom 5703

2003-12-04 Thread Ken Gilmour
On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:02:30 +1300, Sam Minnee wrote:
> Hi all,
>
>
> Has anyone had any experience using the Broadcom 5703 gigabit
> ethernet chipset with Debian?  Is it stable?
>
> PS: It would be appreciated if you could respond to
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> Sam

I've had endless problems with those chipsets. I still haven't successfully managed to 
get mine working... if you do please let me know :)

Thanks!

Kenny



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Swap Distribution

2003-12-04 Thread Mariano Wahlmann
Hi, I'm currently admin , and here we use RedHat distribution, but last
tendencies of RedHat, told me that i must to change my Linux
Distribution, i thought about Debian, wich is very popular, but i want
to know if debian has the an automatic update tool (like up2date), i
read that debian use apt, how long did debian keep support?, RedHat keep
releasing uptades for 5 years for each version.
Thanks.
 
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Re: Kernel upgrade time

2003-12-04 Thread David Palmer.
On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 04:29:04 -0800
Tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 07:16:48PM +0800, David Palmer. wrote:
> > Tommy boy, you haven't got what it takes to screw with my head.
> 
> Okay.  Just out of curiousity, are you older or younger than 30: those
> 
> of us older can remember what the world was like when we were all
> pretty sure the nukes were gonna fall on Tuesday.
> 
> That's why .au had so much internet first: y'all were gonna be the 
> rallying point for our subs, after all of Amerika was burnt up.

I'm over fifty, and we are O.T.
We take this off-list, or we stop it here.
I don't mind a bit of social chat, but I don't want Debian-user used.
Regards,

David.


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Re: No updates to unstable since the security breach?

2003-12-04 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 10:11:28AM -0600, John Hasler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Karsten M. Self writes:
> > s/servers being down/developer access being restricted/
> 
> The access restrictions are irrelevant.  Developers can do anonymous
> uploads.  I did one last night.

...which means that updates *are* being made?


Peace.

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ALSA + KMix not working

2003-12-04 Thread Magnus von Koeller
Hi,

I'm using ALSA for the first time ever (from 2.6.0-test11) and I've 
got it mostly up and working nicely now. I have the intel8x0 driver 
successfully loaded.

alsamixer works fine and I can change the volume (and play sound, of 
course) in xmms. However, KMix does not work. It doesn't even show a 
mixer pane and when I try "New Mixer Tab" the drop-down "Available 
Mixers" is empty.

Any ideas? Isn't KMix supposed to support alsa natively? Or should I 
use the OSS mixer emulation? That doesn't seem right to me...

Thanks in advance,
Magnus

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Re: Debian Investigation Report after Server Compromises

2003-12-04 Thread Isaac To
> "Paul" == Paul Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Paul> With regard to your question 3, a buffer overflow exploit is
Paul> always a stack exploit and is designed to execute arbitrary code
Paul> with the called program's privilege.

But this time it is an "integer overflow", not a "buffer overflow".  The
idea is that when brk() is called, the kernel forgot to check whether this
will result into the memory map pasting the end of address space used for
the processes.  The problem is that after pasting the end of the address
space, it starts to be the kernel space, mapping all the physical memory of
the computer directly.  I.e., it includes all the memory of the kernel and
also all the memory of all other processes.  Once you get to this point, it
just requires a little bit more imagination before you can write to all the
memory of the computer directly, skipping all the protection mechanism of
the kernel.

Regards,
Isaac.


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Re: How do I temporally disable gdm? (or is it gpm)

2003-12-04 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Mark Healey wrote:
I've received a number of suggesions for my X problem.  Before I try
any of them I'd like to disable my graphical login screen.  It is
either gpm or gdm.  I can't remember which one is the login screen and
which is the console mouse driver.
Anyway,  I'm hoping that there is a line in a file I can comment out.





dpkg-reconfigure gdm


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Re: Debian Investigation Report after Server Compromises

2003-12-04 Thread Isaac To
> "Isaac" == Isaac To <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> "Paul" == Paul Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Paul> With regard to your question 3, a buffer overflow exploit is
Paul> always a stack exploit and is designed to execute arbitrary code
Paul> with the called program's privilege.

Isaac> But this time it is an "integer overflow", not a "buffer
Isaac> overflow".  The idea is that when brk() is called, the kernel
Isaac> forgot to check whether this will result into the memory map
Isaac> pasting the end of address space used for the processes.  The
Isaac> problem is that after pasting the end of the address space, it
Isaac> starts to be the kernel space, mapping all the physical memory of
Isaac> the computer directly.  I.e., it includes all the memory of the
Isaac> kernel and also all the memory of all other processes.  Once you
Isaac> get to this point, it just requires a little bit more imagination
Isaac> before you can write to all the memory of the computer directly,
Isaac> skipping all the protection mechanism of the kernel.

All the "pasting" should really be "passing"... stupid me non-native English
speaker...

Regards,
Isaac.


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Re: keys - Re: Debian Investigation Report after Server Compromises

2003-12-04 Thread John Hasler
> i never did undestand why, people wanna run rootkits once they
> got in

Usually they want to use the rooted machine to send spam, run DoS bots, or
to cover their trail while cracking other, more interesting machines.  I
agree that when cracking a DD's machine in order to get his Debian password
it would make sense to get what you want, clean up, and leave.
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Debian Server Compromise -- A Fire Drill ??

2003-12-04 Thread Dave


Whoever broke into the Debian servers did us a big favor by raising
awareness without causing any serious damage.
Seems like the critical link to be fixed is the vulnerability of daemons
that run with root privilege and receive input from users.  The
other links in the chain are inherently insecure.  We should not
rely, for example, on keeping developers' passwords secret.  Anyone
with physical access to a developer's machine can install a key
logger.
Seems like we should have *absolute* security in the way these daemons
operate -- the kind of security we have in microprocessors that do not
allow a user process to enter supervisor mode.  If that barrier were
any less than 100%, on a machine executing billions of instructions per
second, we would have 100 crashes per second just from random
(non-malicious) errors.
I'm no expert on OS design, but it seems like any daemon needing both
root access and input from a user process should be required to read that
input only through a special routine that does not allow anything
dangerous to pass.  One of the arguments to the routine could be the
maximum length of the input, thereby eliminating any possibility of
reading a string so long that it overwrites executable code outside the
buffer area.  See
http://www.Linux-Sec.net/Kernel/ 
for a picture of buffer overflow ( Thanks to Alvin Oga for pointing me to
this.)
So how many daemons need both root access and user input?
-- Dave




Re: Installing Printer - CUPS

2003-12-04 Thread Bill Benedetto
>>> Hurschler writes:

  Chris> I'm having trouble getting my local printer working (HP
  Chris> Deskjet 710C) .  I'm running woody with KDE3.1.4.
  Chris>
  Chris> I've installed: cupsys cupsys-client cupsys-bsd
  Chris> cupsomatic-ppd a2ps mpage enscript
  Chris> cupsys-driver-gimpprint pnm2ppa foomatic-db
  Chris> gsfonts-other hpijs

I'd recommend anyone working with CUPS to read this sample
chapter that Kurt Pfeifle wrote about SAMBA
(http://www.linuxprinting.org/kpfeifle/SambaPrintHOWTO/).  He has
a *LOT* about CUPS and its workings.  It's worth reading even if
you have no interest in SAMBA.

HTH,

- Bill
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Re: Debian Server Compromise -- A Fire Drill ??

2003-12-04 Thread Isaac To
> "Dave" == Dave  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Dave> Seems like the critical link to be fixed is the vulnerability of
Dave> daemons that run with root privilege and receive input from users.

No.  The kernel itself has bug.  The "user" (attacker) is running *perfectly
legitimate* system calls (brk(), the call that will be made when you
malloc()) from a rather strange but allowed executable file (that have the
code segment moved to the end of address space).  And then, due to the
kernel bug, the user can write into arbitrary location in the kernel, do
whatever he wants.  So here the problem is the kernel---the ultimate source
of permission that you have on the computer.  If the kernel is buggy, there
is really little that you can do to be protected from being harmed---except
of course to have a network of mutually distrusting servers with completely
different passwords, keys, etc.

Regards,
Isaac.


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apt utilities and regexs (Re: Debian Package Finder, where? SUCCESS !!)

2003-12-04 Thread Bill Goudie
On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 08:56:03PM +, Chema wrote:
> On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 17:30:07 -0600 > Bill Goudie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> BG> On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 01:26:22AM +, Chema wrote:
> BG> > Anyway, apt-file works nice, but "zgrep file Contents-i386.gz"
> BG> > works better! (note to apt-* developers: I'm still waiting... ;-).
> BG> >  Thanks
> BG> > people.
> BG> 
> BG> Uh? No difference -- this is what apt-file does.  Download and
> BG> zgrepping Contents-.gz is only useful because
> BG> packages.debian.org is unavailable and apt-file was uninstallable.
> 
> Of course there is difference: apt-file (and any other apt-*, I think)
> uses quotemeta in your pattern, effectively disabling the use of
> regular expressions, so it just does a substring search.  With zgrep
> (and any other grep, I think ;-), of course you can use regexps.

Yes, you are right it does modify the expressions.  In shell_pattern()
the following substitutions are made:
'*' => '\\([^ ]*\\)'
'?' => '.'

So, '?' loeses its meaning and '*' becomes zero or more non-spaces.
Everything else works fine:

$ apt-file search '[ejg]\+vim'
vim
jvim-canna

$ apt-file search 'j\(macs\|star\)'
joe

Also, apt-file looks like it uses zgrep.  The routine grep_file() in
apt-file does this:

print "Searching in `$file'\n" if $Conf{'verbose'};
open(GREP, "zgrep $options $file |") || die "Can't search in `$file': $!\n";
while () {
   /^([^ \t]+)[ \t]+(.*)$/;
   foreach (split /,/, $2) {
  my $pack = basename($_);
  push @packages, $pack;
   }
}

Out of the other apt-* utilities apt-cache search does respect regular
expressions:

   search search performs a full text search on all available
  package  files  for  the  regex  pattern  given. It
  searchs the package names and the descriptions  for
  an occurance of the string and prints out the pack­
  age name and the short description.  If  --full  is
  given then output identical to show is produced for
  each matched package and if --names-only  is  given
  then the long description is not searched, only the
  package name is.

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Re: Kernel upgrade time

2003-12-04 Thread Hoyt Bailey

- Original Message - 
From: "Tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 01:09
Subject: Re: Kernel upgrade time


> On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 12:46:06PM +0800, David Palmer. wrote:
> > 
> > I don't know what you are talking about.
> 
> I'm fucking with your head by appearing to argue with you while offering 
> arguments that bolster what you believe :-)
> 
> Bizarre, ain't it?
> 
The actions of a typical 13 year old.
Hoyt


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Pinning question

2003-12-04 Thread Rich B
One of my servers is running stable, but I've added Unstable to my 
/etc/apt/sources file, and in /etc/apt/preferences I put:

  Package: *
  Pin: release stable
  Pin-priority: 900
  Package: *
  Pin: release testing
  Pin-priority: 500
  Package: *
  Pin: release unstable
  Pin-priority: 100
Now, when I do an apt-get dist-upgrade I'm told:

  The following NEW packages will be installed:
gcc-3.3-base initscripts
What did I do wrong? I thought my Pin-prioritys would prevent anything 
from upgrading to Sid unless I explicitly asked for it.

Rich B.

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Re: OT: Successful thesis defense

2003-12-04 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Roberto Sanchez wrote:
Just wanted to let everyone know that on Monday morning I successfully
defended my undergraduate honors thesis, entitled "Improving
Computational Efficiency in Context-Based Reasoning Simulations."
I submitted the final drafts te be bound yesterday and will graduate
with honors in Computer Engineering this coming May.
Woohoo!

-Roberto
Congratulations. Job well done.

Hugo.



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Re: passwordless ssh-login

2003-12-04 Thread Joerg Johannes
Am Mi, den 03.12.2003 schrieb Vineet Kumar um 21:32:
> * Joerg Johannes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [031203 08:08]:
> > Am Di, den 02.12.2003 schrieb Joerg Johannes um 09:25:
> > > I am starting Debian X environment using gdm, but after logging in, I
> > > can't find ssh-agent in ps -ae. Only see it after starting it by hand.
> 
> How are you starting it?  The best way to do this is to start your x
> session "under" ssh-agent; for example, the default debian Xsession
> scripts on my machine have me running "/usr/bin/ssh-agent
> x-window-manager".  Do you have a local ~/.Xsession?  If not, you should
> try to figure out why the system-wide one on your system is not running
> ssh-agent (check /etc/X11/Xsession.options for a line that says
> 'use-ssh-agent').  If so, it's probably just a matter of invoking
> ssh-agent properly in your X session.
Hmmm. I don't have ~/.Xsession, and in /etc/X11/Xsession.option the
"use-ssh-agent" line is present. Still, it is not used.

> Again, how did you run ssh-agent?  Try something like this:
> 
> ssh-agent x-terminal-emulator
> 
> and then try ssh-add from the new terminal window that pops up.  There
> it should work.
Yes, that works. So ssh-agent is at least not broken...

> The reason is that ssh-agent sets up environment
> variables that all of its child processes inherit.  If you're trying to
> use it in some process that doesn't have those variables set up, it's
> just not going to work.
Thank you for this explanation. I'm starting to understand the procedure
now.

> > Maybe related to that: I have tried setting up passwordless login to
> > another machine using the steps mentioned in the micro-howto: Succeeded.
> > I don't have to enter my password any more. Even worse: I have to enter
> > my passPHRASE for the key... Aaargh. Is this because ssh-agent doesn't
> > listen to me?
> 
> Yes, I'd say that this is better, not worse.  You've gotten key-based
> authentication working; now it's just a matter of setting up your agent
> properly.  
I poked around a bit and changed my /etc/gdm/Sessions/Icewm. It now
contains
exec /usr/bin/ssh-agent /usr/bin/icewm
and now it works. But I still don't know why the global Xinitrc is not
used.

> (BTW, in the meantime (until you've gotten your ssh-agent set
> up properly) if you don't want to type a passphrase, you should be able
> to just hit enter and then be prompted for a password instead).
Hehe, good to know -- this saves a lot of typing (the passphrase is ~10
times longer than the password).

> good times,
> Vineet

Thanks,
joerg

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Attempt to access beyond end of device/Raid linear and 1

2003-12-04 Thread Larry W . Irwin Sr .
  I recently set up two 9 gig scsi drives on my machine. Discovered
that an attempt to copy data from one array to another results in
"I/O error. Attempt to access beyond end of device". Data copies 
to/from either raid array to/from a non-raid partition work properly.

  Googling found references to a similar problem in the 2.2 kernels 
but not the 2.4 series.

Running Debian Woody and the mdadm daemon.

--/etc/raidtab-
raiddev /dev/md0
raid-level  linear
nr-raid-disks   2
chunk-size  32
persistent-superblock   1
device  /dev/sda2
raid-disk   0
device  /dev/sdb2
raid-disk   1

raiddev /dev/md1
raid-level  1
nr-raid-disks   2
nr-spare-disks  1
chunk-size  32
persistent-superblock   1
device  /dev/sda1
raid-disk   0
device  /dev/sdb1
raid-disk   1
device  /dev/hda11
spare-disk  0


All partitions in arrays set to Linux Raid Autodetect with ext3 FS.

--/etc/fstab
/dev/hda6   /   ext3errors=remount-ro   0 1
/dev/hda12  noneswapsw  0 0
proc/proc   procdefaults0 0
/dev/fd0/mnt/floppy autouser,noauto 0 0
/dev/scd0   /mnt/cdrom  iso9660 ro,user,noauto  0 0
/dev/md0/mnt/home   autouser,rw 0 0
/dev/md1/mnt/sda2   autouser,rw 0 0
/dev/hda1   /mnt/win_c  autouser,rw 0 0
/dev/hda5   /mnt/win_d  autouser,rw 0 0
/dev/hda7   /mnt/hda7   autouser,rw 0 0
/dev/hda8   /mnt/hda8   autouser,rw 0 0
/dev/hda9   /mnt/hda9   autouser,rw 0 0
/dev/hda10  /mnt/hda10  autouser,rw 0 0
#10.0.0.11  /mnt/jorgen nfs user,rw 0 0
 ^^My home server, named after Jorgen Von Strangle

Partition info
/dev/sda1: 1 gig
/dev/sda2: 7.5 gig
/dev/sdb1: 1 gig
/dev/sdb2: 7.5 gig
/dev/hda11: 1 gig

-Output of dmesg
Linux version 2.4.18-386 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 2.95.4 20011002 (Debian 
prerelease)) #2 Sun Apr 14 10:38:08 EST 2002
BIOS-provided physical RAM map:
 BIOS-e820:  - 000a (usable)
 BIOS-e820: 000f - 0010 (reserved)
 BIOS-e820: 0010 - 0f7f (usable)
 BIOS-e820: 0f7f - 0f7f3000 (ACPI NVS)
 BIOS-e820: 0f7f3000 - 0f80 (ACPI data)
 BIOS-e820:  - 0001 (reserved)
On node 0 totalpages: 63472
zone(0): 4096 pages.
zone(1): 59376 pages.
zone(2): 0 pages.
Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=Linux ro root=306
Initializing CPU#0
Detected 474.979 MHz processor.
Console: colour VGA+ 80x25
Calibrating delay loop... 946.99 BogoMIPS
Memory: 245332k/253888k available (895k kernel code, 8172k reserved, 233k data, 192k 
init, 0k highmem)
Dentry-cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 6, 262144 bytes)
Inode-cache hash table entries: 16384 (order: 5, 131072 bytes)
Mount-cache hash table entries: 4096 (order: 3, 32768 bytes)
Buffer-cache hash table entries: 16384 (order: 4, 65536 bytes)
Page-cache hash table entries: 65536 (order: 6, 262144 bytes)
CPU: Before vendor init, caps: 008021bf 808029bf , vendor = 2
CPU: L1 I Cache: 32K (32 bytes/line), D cache 32K (32 bytes/line)
CPU: After vendor init, caps: 008021bf 808029bf  0002
CPU: After generic, caps: 008021bf 808029bf  0002
CPU: Common caps: 008021bf 808029bf  0002
CPU: AMD-K6(tm) 3D processor stepping 0c
Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK.
Checking for popad bug... OK.
POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfb4f0, last bus=1
PCI: Using configuration type 1
PCI: Probing PCI hardware
PCI: Using IRQ router SIS [1039/0008] at 00:01.0
Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.4
Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039
Initializing RT netlink socket
Starting kswapd
VFS: Diskquotas version dquot_6.4.0 initialized
devfs: v1.10 (20020120) Richard Gooch ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
devfs: boot_options: 0x0
Detected PS/2 Mouse Port.
pty: 256 Unix98 ptys configured
Serial driver version 5.05c (2001-07-08) with HUB-6 MANY_PORTS MULTIPORT SHARE_IRQ 
SERIAL_PCI enabled
ttyS00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4)

Re: ALSA + KMix not working

2003-12-04 Thread Danilo Raineri
Magnus von Koeller wrote:


> Any ideas? Isn't KMix supposed to support alsa natively? Or should I
> use the OSS mixer emulation? That doesn't seem right to me...

Where did you read that KMix was supposed to support alsa natively?
(Sincerely, I am curious: I would be glad if it was :)

I fear it does not, so you should enable OSS emulation to use it. And
unfortunately it supports only a few of the available ALSA controls...


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Re: ye olde upgrade vs. dist-upgrade

2003-12-04 Thread Bill Moseley
On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 11:13:22PM -0800, Marc Wilson wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 08:41:27PM -0800, Bill Moseley wrote:
> > Is there a reason to use or not use dist-upgrade on Woody machines for
> > security updates?
> 
> Is there a reason to not actually bother reading the man page for apt-get
> and learning the difference between the two targets?

Sorry, I wasn't clear.  Yes, I know the what the docs say.

> 'upgrade'   - apt CAN'T change a package's installation state
> 'dist-upgrade'  - apt CAN change a package's installation state

I use "woody" in my sources.list instead of saying "stable".  Packages in 
Stable are, well, stable.  There are security updates that will replace 
packages, of course, but dependencies should not change so there's no 
installation state to change when doing security updates.

Therefore, it's been my assumption that in that case dist-upgrade and
upgrade act in the same way.  Someone commented that dist-upgrade is the
wrong thing to use for security updates, but I'm not clear if that's
because of their different environment ("stable" vs. "woody in
sources.list) or something else that is not clear to me from the docs.


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Re: Kernel upgrade time

2003-12-04 Thread Tom
On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 08:12:24AM -0600, Hoyt Bailey wrote:

> The actions of a typical 13 year old.

Well, old man, you ain't doing much better.  At least I'm trying shit.


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Re: Anfrage f?r einen Linktausch an debian-user@lists.debian.org

2003-12-04 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 10:39:10AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren,

Thomas: Fragen Sie bitte auf englisch an diese Liste, oder frage an den
debian-user-de Liste

http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-de/

Danke!

> ich bitte Sie zu pr?fen, ob es m?glich ist im Rahmen Ihres 
> Internetauftrittes einen Link zu http://www.projekt1138.de zu setzen.
> Warum Linktausch? Durch Linktausch erreicht Ihre Seite einfach und ohne 
> Kosten eine bessere Postion bei Suchmaschinen wie Google und yahoo. 
> 
> Unter mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] haben Sie die M?glichkeit einen Link zu 
> Ihrer Seite anzufordern. Ab 15. Dezember werden Seiten die auf 
> http://www.projekt1138.de verlinken automatisch r?ckverlinkt.
> 
> Hier finden eine Reihe interessante Info ( Traffic, Besucherstr?me etc,)  
> ?ber Ihre Domain: 
> Schauen Sie gerne kurz rein.
> 
> http://www.alexa.com/data/details/main?q=&url=www.lists.debian.org
> 
> 
> Vielen Dank.

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Re: I'm face Few problem , need suggestion

2003-12-04 Thread Andy Wettstein
On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 02:05:25AM +0600, Satyajit Das wrote:
> 
> 1) I want to upgrade complete Debain system, such as :
>   I have mutt-1.3 /need 1.4 or1.5 , kde-2.2/ need 3.x / and 
> kernel-2.2.20-idepci/ need 2.4.x
>Please give me the details webaddress or ftp site. I'm using  broadband.

If you want to stay with woody, I would use backports.  You can get
several of these from backports.org

for example if you put this in /etc/apt/sources.list (check
backports.org/ for more info):
deb http://www.backports.org/debian woody mutt

and apt-get update && apt-get install mutt, you will get mutt 1.5.4

There is also 2.4.x and even 2.6.x packages available from
backports.org.

KDE you can get from kde.org just go to the download sections and it has
instructions for Debian on woody.

Alternatively upgrade to unstable.

> 
> 2) I'm using mutt and postfix.
>My From field said : [EMAIL PROTECTED]@spnetctg.com (Satyajit Das)
>but I want to show it like this: Satyajit Das
>what I need to edit ? 
>(Still I'm not edit my .muttrc file )

I'm not sure what you're getting at here.  You don't want your From
field to show your email address?

anyway, you can edit your .muttrc and put something like this in it:
my_hdr From: Andy Wettstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

to show whatever you want.



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Re: No updates to unstable since the security breach?

2003-12-04 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 05:57:10AM -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote:
| on Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 10:11:28AM -0600, John Hasler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
| > Karsten M. Self writes:
| > > s/servers being down/developer access being restricted/
| > 
| > The access restrictions are irrelevant.  Developers can do anonymous
| > uploads.  I did one last night.
| 
| ...which means that updates *are* being made?

I think that means updates *can* be made.  Whether or not various
developers choose to do so, or even realize they can make anonymous
updates, is a separate issue.  (I certainly hope updates are/will be
made soon :-))

-D

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Re: No updates to unstable since the security breach?

2003-12-04 Thread John Hasler
I wrote:
> The access restrictions are irrelevant.  Developers can do anonymous
> uploads.  I did one last night.

Karsten writes:
> ...which means that updates *are* being made?

Uploads are being made.  They don't appear to be being processed yet.
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Re: these fonts are making me go crazy

2003-12-04 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Bill Moseley wrote:
Why the #$%* can't the font installation and setup be a bit easier?


I would not have put it so nicely! ;)

I finally got my fonts looking better on one of my machines that's been
driving me NUTS for about a year (debian-user is littered with my
pleas for help with fonts).
This does *NOT* mean I have it setup correctly or that I understand
things much better now...
Certainly the case for me, like...

I reinstalled Debian Sarge from scratch (boot floppies) keeping careful 
notes on problems, behavior and it goes like this:

1. install mozilla source tarball with xft. Fonts look terrible, 
meaning, xft seems to work but menus, toolbars, etc. look terrible.

2. install cups. Everything suddenly looks great. 
preferences->appearance->fonts suddenly has URW Bookman L. Where'd that 
come from??

Hugo.


I'm running Sid and it was mostly mozilla that was the problem with ugly
fonts.  I'm mostly in either mozilla or xterm.  Xterm fonts have always
been fine, although they are not anti-aliased.
I finally got things acceptable in mozilla by really trimming down my "Files"
section:
Section "Files"
RgbPath  "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
ModulePath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi"
EndSection
And then in /etc/fonts/fonts.conf:

/usr/share/fonts
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1
/usr/local/share/fonts
I still don't understand fontconfig.  I thought fontconfig was used for
selecting the best font and then X still rendered them and therefore the
font paths listed in fonts.conf needed to also be in XF86Config-4.  But
that does not seem to be the case.  I have a huge font selection list in
Mozilla and OpenOffice.
xlsfonts doesn't show many fonts

  $ xlsfonts | wc -l
  1257
I think I could add more paths to my "Files" section, but my thinking is
to use the minimum required.
  $ locate fonts.dir | wc -l
  52
I suppose a number of those are empty (or maybe symlinks so duplicates).

I can add this line

   FontPath"/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType"

and I get more fonts listed in xlsfonts (another 550 fonts), but I don't
seen any difference in any of my applications when I do that.
Oh:


Section "Files"
   FontPath"unix/:7101"# local font server
   FontPath"unix/:7100"# local font serveri


I also used to have "unix/:7100" which, as far as I can tell, just
duplicated the fonts I have listed above (indeed adding the font server
in just exactly doubled the number of fonts reported from xlsfonts).  So I see
no use for the xfs font server at all and thus removed it.






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I'm face Few problem , need suggestion

2003-12-04 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Dear list,

Just today I entire this world and also in Linux world.
I'm single user.
I collect Debian 3.0 beta , total 8 CD's .
After struggle 4 days("dselect" very difficult for newbies) I installed Debian. 

Now wants to know or need suggestion from all users.
Please -- please help.
( NB: I also visit debian mailing list archive, thousand - thousand
  mail, It's difficults from me to find out my problem)

1) I want to upgrade complete Debain system, such as :
I have mutt-1.3 /need 1.4 or1.5 , kde-2.2/ need 3.x / and 
kernel-2.2.20-idepci/ need 2.4.x
   Please give me the details webaddress or ftp site. I'm using  broadband.

2) I'm using mutt and postfix.
   My From field said : [EMAIL PROTECTED]@spnetctg.com (Satyajit Das)
   but I want to show it like this: Satyajit Das
   what I need to edit ? 
   (Still I'm not edit my .muttrc file )

Thanks all.
Satyajit


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Re: missing URL

2003-12-04 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Tom Allison wrote:
http://gluck.debian.org/cdimage/testing/netinst/

I don't know if this is still a known problem, it probably is, but this 
URL is missing.  I only bring this up because the rest of the server 
seems to have some presence on the Internet.

I'm really curious to see what developments have come along on the 
net-install CD's for Sarge.


http://freedesktop.org/~daniel/d-i/



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Re: Debian Server Compromise -- A Fire Drill ??

2003-12-04 Thread John Hasler
Isaac writes:
> And then, due to the kernel bug, the user can write into arbitrary
> location in the kernel, do whatever he wants.

It's rather more complicated than that.  The user reportedly must do some
pretty subtle stuff to get root via the brk() bug.  That's why the kernel
developers thought it was just an ordinary bug: they could see no way to
exploit it.
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Re: Swap Distribution

2003-12-04 Thread Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra
Em Thu, 04 Dec 2003 10:46:12 -0300, Mariano Wahlmann escreveu:

> i want to know if debian
> has the an automatic update tool (like up2date), i read that debian use
> apt

Which is much better than up2date.


> how long did debian keep support?, RedHat keep releasing uptades for
> 5 years for each version. Thanks.

Debian makes smooth upgrades, but doesn't keep support after the
following version is released. You can contract it if you like.


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Re: base64 translation

2003-12-04 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Tue, Dec 02, 2003 at 01:09:39AM -0700, Arthur H. Edwards wrote:
| I'm trying to decode an applefile ppt that is in base64 coding. I have
| read that there is a utility base64-decode that might work?

Yes, use the base64-decode program to decode base64 data.  (unless you
have it in an email or something like that, in which case just use
your mail reader to save the attachment).

| Because packages is down, can someone tell me the appropriate
| package(s) to read?

mime-codecs

-D

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Creating VCD from AVI

2003-12-04 Thread Aryan Ameri
Hi there:

I have some AVI files here, which are riped from my DVDs using acidrip 
(a frontend to mencoder). Now I want to write to a CD as a VCD, so that 
they don't took space on my hard. 

My googling shows that there are a couple of tools I should use. 
mjpegtools, vcdimager, cdrdao etc. However I don't quite get the 
picture that want: How can I build a VCD. What is the process of making 
a VCD, from a AVI file.

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Re: Debian Investigation Report after Server Compromises

2003-12-04 Thread csj
On 3. December 2003 at 5:52PM -0800,
Vineet Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> * Monique Y. Herman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [031203 16:59]:
> > I have been wondering about the password-sniffing thing, too.
> > If you send a password using ssh, isn't it encrypted?
> > 
> > I suppose some debian developer's kid sister could have
> > installed a keystroke logger on the dev machine ... um ...
> 
> Almost there -- minus the assumption that one needs physical
> access to a machine to install a keystroke logger.  At the risk
> of perpetuating the telephone game, I recall reading that the
> developer's machine had been rooted.  I didn't hear how, but I
> don't really see how it matters.  I picture an always-on
> machine in someone's home on a DSL or cable line.  

Now I'm curious: is it possible to get rooted while on dialup?
I'm thinking of a user with access to a slow but dirt cheap
dialup connection and so is online for significant stretches,
say, eight hours.  This also assumes that no trojans or similar
have been installed on the user's system.

[...]


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Re: Swap Distribution

2003-12-04 Thread ScruLoose
On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 12:14:03PM -0200, Leandro Guimar?es Faria Corsetti Dutra wrote:
> Em Thu, 04 Dec 2003 10:46:12 -0300, Mariano Wahlmann escreveu:
> 
> > i want to know if debian
> > has the an automatic update tool (like up2date), i read that debian use
> > apt
> 
>   Which is much better than up2date.

Heh!  Yeah... Once you get used to apt, you'll wonder how you ever got
by without it.

> > how long did debian keep support?, RedHat keep releasing uptades for
> > 5 years for each version. Thanks.
> 
>   Debian makes smooth upgrades, but doesn't keep support after the
> following version is released. You can contract it if you like.

I'm pretty sure this bit is not true.  Obsolete versions get security
updates for a while after the new release comes out...
I don't think there's a guaranteed time-frame for that (this being
Debian, it runs something like "until it becomes too much of a pain")...
But I believe the devels aim for "about a year".


Cheers!
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Re: How do I temporally disable gdm? (or is it gpm)

2003-12-04 Thread David Z Maze
"Mark Healey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I've received a number of suggesions for my X problem.  Before I try
> any of them I'd like to disable my graphical login screen.  It is
> either gpm or gdm.  I can't remember which one is the login screen and
> which is the console mouse driver.

gdm is the GNOME Display Manager, much like xdm (X), kdm (KDE), and
wdm (Wings).  gpm is the console mouse driver.

> Anyway,  I'm hoping that there is a line in a file I can comment out.

Delete /etc/rc2.d/S99gdm, which is a symlink telling the init scripts
"start gdm as the last thing in runlevel 2".  Or, if you just want to
stop it for this session and have it start again at the next boot, run
'/etc/init.d/gdm stop'.

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Re: Ethernet card not detected - where is YAST2 ?

2003-12-04 Thread David Z Maze
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sebastia Altemir) writes:

> My LINEX (Spanish Debian with 2.4.20 kernel) instaled ok,
> but the ethernet card was not detected, so nothing (eth0) was instaled.
>
> "lspci -v" says "02.0c.0 MYSON Tech Inc : unknown device 0803".
>
> If I run "modprobe fealnx", it runs OK (lsmod displays (unused))

Two ways to do this: either add 'fealnx' on a line by itself in
/etc/modules, which has a list of modules that get loaded at boot
time.  Or, add 'alias eth0 fealnx' in a file in /etc/modutils (maybe
create a file there named with your hostname) and run update-modules
as root; this causes the driver to get loaded when you try to bring up
the et0 network interface.

> then "ifconfig eth0 1.2.3.4 ..." goes ok ( lsmod display "(1)"),
> and I can "ping" near computers.

You need to edit /etc/network/interfaces; read interfaces(5) for
details, or see /usr/share/doc/ifupdown.  Having set up that file
correctly, 'ifup eth0' will bring up and configure the interface,
'ifdown eth0' will take it down.

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Re: Debian Investigation Report after Server Compromises

2003-12-04 Thread Tom
On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 12:40:42PM +0800, csj wrote:

> Now I'm curious: is it possible to get rooted while on dialup?

Sure.  An ip address is an ip address.  It's just slower.


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Re: Sending mail with mutt+exim4 takes a long time when not connected

2003-12-04 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Tue, Nov 25, 2003 at 06:09:30PM +0200, Micha Feigin wrote:
| When my laptop isn't connected to the internet it takes about 10-15
| seconds when trying to send mail with exim4 (through mutt) until the
| mail gets cued.
| Is it possible to do this in the background so that mutt wont hang?

Put
set sendmail="/usr/sbin/sendmail -oem -oi -obd"
in ~/.muttrc.

Explanation, from exim's spec.txt
-odb   This option applies to all modes in which Exim accepts incoming
   messages, including the listening daemon. It requests 'background'
   delivery of such messages, which means that the accepting process
   automatically starts delivery process for each message received, but
   does not wait for the delivery process to complete. This is the default
   action if none of the -od options are present. It overrides a setting
   of "queue_only" in the configuration file.

-D

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Re: Gentoo compromised too

2003-12-04 Thread ScruLoose
On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 12:29:34PM -0800, Tom wrote:

> Gentoo has now had a security issue too (as I'm sure you know).

I didn't know of a particular security issue with Gentoo, actually.

And since you haven't provided a reference or a link to any actual
information, I can't say as I really know it now, either.

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Re: Debian Server Compromise -- A Fire Drill ??

2003-12-04 Thread Tom
On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 10:15:12AM -0600, John Hasler wrote:

> ...  That's why the kernel
> developers thought it was just an ordinary bug: they could see no way to
> exploit it.

That statement is somewhat disconcerting.  The hypothesis is that many 
eyes detect secure bugs, and here is clear case evidence contradicting 
that hypothesis.

One must assume there are more bugs in this class.


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Re: Recognizing URL's in Mutt

2003-12-04 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Tue, Nov 25, 2003 at 07:00:34AM -0500, Michael W. Cole wrote:
| I am using mutt with vim as the editor.  I have seen in the past where
| the url's on a line in xterm will be underlined when the mouse moves
| over it.  You could then double click the mouse and the web browser
| would open that url.  How, what, where can I look, do, read to
| understand how to implement this behavior in mutt, vim, xterm etc.

xterm?  No, I don't think xterm ever did that.  You were probably
using gnome-terminal before.  All graphical (re)actions are part of
the graphical program -- the terminal emulator, not the non-graphical
programs -- mutt, vim.

-D

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changing from xdm to kdm

2003-12-04 Thread Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri.
I am on debian testing/unstable. I have built this up from a base install
of woody then upgraded and then installed first X and then KDE. On
startup, I get the xdm screen. How do I change this to the kde login
screen.

thanks,

Sharukh.
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loading ide-scsi at bootup

2003-12-04 Thread Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri.
I am using debian testing/unstable with kde. I have a CDRW/DVD combo on
hdd. I have added the line "append hdd=ide-scsi" in lilo.conf. The
ide-scsi module is not beingloaded at boot up. How do I go about setting
it so that it is loaded at startup. 

I am a recent migrant from RedHat and this was always automatically setup
under rh.

thanks,

Sharukh.
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Re: Gentoo compromised too

2003-12-04 Thread Ken Gilmour
Replying to the message sent by ScruLoose  on Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:42:37
-0500, received at 16:55:09 on 04/12/2003. ScruLoose wrote:
>On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 12:29:34PM -0800, Tom wrote:
>
>> Gentoo has now had a security issue too (as I'm sure you know).
>
>I didn't know of a particular security issue with Gentoo, actually.
>
>And since you haven't provided a reference or a link to any actual
>information, I can't say as I really know it now, either.
>
>-Cheers!

http://news.zdnet.co.uk/software/linuxunix/0,39020390,39118285,00.htm



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Re: Gentoo compromised too

2003-12-04 Thread Tom
On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 11:42:37AM -0500, ScruLoose wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 12:29:34PM -0800, Tom wrote:
> 
> > Gentoo has now had a security issue too (as I'm sure you know).
> 
> I didn't know of a particular security issue with Gentoo, actually.
> 
> And since you haven't provided a reference or a link to any actual
> information, I can't say as I really know it now, either.

Why, Slashdot, of course.  It looks like the FSF was hit by the same bug 
too.

http://lists.netsys.com/pipermail/full-disclosure/2003-December/014440.html
http://savannah.gnu.org/statement.html
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/12/03/1921235&mode=nested&tid=106&tid=117&tid=126&tid=172&tid=185&tid=99

I don't know if the Slashdot link will work for you or if it contains my 
profile cookies.  It's still on the main page.

> ---<>---
>   If we do not believe in freedom of speech for those we despise
>   we do not believe in it at all.

Here, here.


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Re: Anfrage f?r einen Linktausch an debian-user@lists.debian.org

2003-12-04 Thread Florian Ernst
Oooops.

IMVHO better no response at all, this "Thomas" offers link exchange to
get a better page rank at google and yahoo, but both URLs he mentions
appear to be part of link farms and connected to the infamous alexa.
Sorry for not having posted earlier.

Cheers,
Flo
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On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 08:00:28AM -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote:
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Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren,
Thomas: Fragen Sie bitte auf englisch an diese Liste, oder frage an den
debian-user-de Liste
   http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-de/

Danke!

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Internetauftrittes einen Link zu http://www.projekt1138.de zu setzen.
Warum Linktausch? Durch Linktausch erreicht Ihre Seite einfach und ohne 
Kosten eine bessere Postion bei Suchmaschinen wie Google und yahoo. 

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Schauen Sie gerne kurz rein.

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Re: Gentoo compromised too

2003-12-04 Thread Florian Ernst
On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 11:42:37AM -0500, ScruLoose wrote:
On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 12:29:34PM -0800, Tom wrote:

Gentoo has now had a security issue too (as I'm sure you know).
I didn't know of a particular security issue with Gentoo, actually.

And since you haven't provided a reference or a link to any actual
information, I can't say as I really know it now, either.
About Gentoo
http://lists.netsys.com/pipermail/full-disclosure/2003-December/014440.html
There was already a security announcement for Debian referring to this
particular rsync vulnerability.
But even worse, about the Savannah crack
http://savannah.gnu.org/statement.html
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Re: Help with move to CUPS

2003-12-04 Thread Mark Roach
On Wed, 2003-12-03 at 11:56, R Ransbottom wrote:
> I starting to do an upgrade on a small network of
> debian systems.  Moving from 1.3 to 3.0.
> 
> It seems like time to replace lpr with CUPS.

I have been having quite a lot of fun hacking on cups lately, it's good
stuff.

> I am having a problem getting a handle on CUPS.
> Oh, I have set up single systems with attached printers
> without problems.  I have never seen any setup
> of networked printers except via lpr.
> 
> I have a couple of LaserJet 6L's and LJ 4000's that
> I'd like to connect to the LAN via NetGear PS101 Mini
> Printer Servers.  I am starting with one LJ 6L.  6L's
> don't do postscript, LJ4000's do.
> 
> Specific questions:
> 
> What "Device" to use for a free standing printer,
> http, ipp, lpd/lpr?

Most hardware print servers, (jetdirect-style boxes) work well as lpd
servers, that's how I have had cups communicating with my 80+ printers
for a while now. Out of curiosity though, why go with an external print
server when those printers can all use internal JetDirects?

> If lpd/lpr, how do you construct a URI for such
> a printer?

lpd://ip.address.of.printer/

> Do I want 10 desktop machines to directly talk to
> a LJ4000 or have an intermediary host be their
> server?

I would go for having a server. If they are linux desktops,
configuration is as simple as editing /etc/cups/client.conf and setting
ServerName server.ip.address, if they are windows systems, cups+samba
works nicely.

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Re: Anfrage f?r einen Linktausch an debian-user@lists.debian.org

2003-12-04 Thread Paul Johnson
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> Thomas: Fragen Sie bitte auf englisch an diese Liste, oder frage an den
> debian-user-de Liste

Karsten, you realise what you replied to was spam, right?

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Maildrop + SA

2003-12-04 Thread Gilberto Villani Brito
Hi,
I have a server with qmail + vpopmail + spamassassin + maildrop.
My maildrop use spamc to mark spam and move it to other dir.

So, I would like send spams (witch my SA didn't catch) to e-mail
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and my maildrop use sa-learn in this e-mail.
How can I do that in my maildrop???

I tried this:

--- mailfilter
import EXT
import HOST
SHELL="/bin/sh"
VPOP="| /usr/local/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail '' bounce-no-mailbox"
VHOME=`/usr/local/vpopmail/bin/vuserinfo -d [EMAIL PROTECTED]
VUSR=`/usr/local/vpopmail/bin/vhmchk.pl $EXT $HOST`
 
 
if ( $SIZE < 262144 )
{
exception {
xfilter "/usr/local/bin/spamc -f -u [EMAIL PROTECTED]"
}
}
 
if (/^X-Spam-Flag: *YES/)
{
   to "/usr/local/vpopmail/domains/domain.com/spam/Maildir/"
   exit
}
else
{
if (/^From:.*<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.*/ && /^To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/){
to "/usr/local/vpopmail/domains/domain.com/spam/Maildir/.Spam/"
   # it stop here and the next comands don't execute
   '/usr/local/bin/sa-learn --spam 
/usr/local/vpopmail/domains/domain.com/spam/Maildir/.Spam/new/*'
   'rm -f /usr/local/vpopmail/domains/domain.com/spam/Maildir/.Spam/new/*'
exit
}
to "$VPOP"
   exit
}
mailfilter


Hugs
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Re: Swap Distribution

2003-12-04 Thread Paul Johnson
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On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 10:46:12AM -0300, Mariano Wahlmann wrote:
> Hi, I'm currently admin , and here we use RedHat distribution, but last
> tendencies of RedHat, told me that i must to change my Linux
> Distribution, i thought about Debian, wich is very popular, but i want
> to know if debian has the an automatic update tool (like up2date)

Debian came up with the idea, we were there first.  Then Microsoft
copied it craptastically with windowsupdate.microsoft.com, then RedHat
made up2date...

> i read that debian use apt, how long did debian keep support?

Two years at most usually.

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Re: I'm face Few problem , need suggestion

2003-12-04 Thread H. S.
Satyajit Das wrote:
Dear list,

Just today I entire this world and also in Linux world.


By "this world" I would assume the newsgroup world and *this* world in 
general :))

welcome to Linux world!

I'm single user.
I collect Debian 3.0 beta , total 8 CD's .
After struggle 4 days("dselect" very difficult for newbies) I installed Debian. 
Oh boy. I can understand that. I went through the same thing myself a 
few weeks ago. But then I was not new to the world of Linux so it didn't 
take me 4 days :)  But I agree, the installation routine of Debian is 
hideous. Delusions of grandeur must be over and the routine *must* be 
vastly improved and made easier if Debian want to live up to people's 
expectations.

Now wants to know or need suggestion from all users.
Please -- please help.
( NB: I also visit debian mailing list archive, thousand - thousand
  mail, It's difficults from me to find out my problem)
er ... maybe try google? With search only limited to debian.org.

1) I want to upgrade complete Debain system, such as :
I have mutt-1.3 /need 1.4 or1.5 , kde-2.2/ need 3.x / and 
kernel-2.2.20-idepci/ need 2.4.x
   Please give me the details webaddress or ftp site. I'm using  broadband.
I think what you need is:
$> apt-get upgrade
once you have finished the first installation. This will  upgrade your 
newly installed system. Or you could change your /etc/apt/sources.list 
file and replace "stable" with "testing" and do:
$> apt-get dist-upgrade
and your distribution will be upgraded.

BUT, before you do any of the above, perhaps it would be nicer to user 
-s and -u options to see what exactly will be upgraded. So, the first 
command above will become:
$> apt-get -s -u upgrade

It will list what packages will be upgraded. BTW, when you do upgrade 
KDE, you may run into problem as it requires some non-existence package 
named something like libsensors. If this happens, come back here and I 
will tell you how I solved the problem.

And of course, I am a newbie, others maybe able to give you more 
accurate and complete information.

HTH,
->HS


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Re: PATH statement in X

2003-12-04 Thread Mark Roach
On Wed, 2003-12-03 at 07:50, John L. Fjellstad wrote:
> Mark Roach wrote:
> 
> > you should really check here first:
> > http://www.google.com/search?q=kdm%20path Less than a minute's worth of
> > research turned up kdmrc as the source of the kdm path.
> 
> Not that simple. Neither UserPath nor SystemPath occurs in my kdmrc. When I
> follow Xsession, that do set my PATH statement, I don't get the path that I
> see in the konsole (by doing echo $PATH), which is why I'm asking where all
> the places the PATH is set in the first place.

So, add UserPath and/or SystemPath lines to your kdmrc and see if they
take effect...
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Util-Linux source problem

2003-12-04 Thread Dale Amon
I'm trying to recompile util-linux source under a sarge
dist and it's failing. Same source as I used only days
ago so I suspect something in an upgrade caused the problem.

I've used source both from upstream and via apt-get. The
only thing that changes is in which .c the error shows
up first. The below is from upstream sourceL

cc -pipe -O2 -mcpu=i486 -fomit-frame-pointer -I../lib -Wall -Wmissing-prototypes 
-Wstrict-prototypes -DNCH=1   -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -DSBINDIR=\"/sbin\" 
-DUSRSBINDIR=\"/usr/sbin\" -DLOGDIR=\"/var/log\" -DVARPATH=\"/var\" 
-DLOCALEDIR=\"/usr/share/locale\" -O2  -s  blockdev.c   -o blockdev
blockdev.c:70: error: parse error before '[' token
blockdev.c:70: error: initializer element is not constant
blockdev.c:70: error: (near initialization for `bdcms[4].ioc')
blockdev.c:70: error: initializer element is not constant
blockdev.c:70: error: (near initialization for `bdcms[4]')
blockdev.c:73: error: parse error before '[' token
blockdev.c:73: error: initializer element is not constant
blockdev.c:73: error: (near initialization for `bdcms[5].ioc')
blockdev.c:73: error: initializer element is not constant
blockdev.c:73: error: (near initialization for `bdcms[5]')
blockdev.c:76: error: initializer element is not constant
blockdev.c:76: error: (near initialization for `bdcms[6]')
blockdev.c:79: error: initializer element is not constant
blockdev.c:79: error: (near initialization for `bdcms[7]')
blockdev.c:82: error: initializer element is not constant
blockdev.c:82: error: (near initialization for `bdcms[8]')
blockdev.c:85: error: initializer element is not constant
blockdev.c:85: error: (near initialization for `bdcms[9]')
blockdev.c:89: error: initializer element is not constant
blockdev.c:89: error: (near initialization for `bdcms[10]')
blockdev.c: In function `report_device':
blockdev.c:331: error: parse error before '[' token
make[1]: *** [blockdev] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/dma/Sbuilder2/Obj-mourne/util-linux-2.12/disk-utils'
make: *** [all] Error 1


There are actually only 3 errors; the rest are just 
caused by them:

blockdev.c:70: error: parse error before '[' token
blockdev.c:73: error: parse error before '[' token
blockdev.c:331: error: parse error before '[' token

I narrowed things down by doing a macro expansion. blockdev.c
line 70 contains this:

#ifdef BLKSSZGET
{ "--getss", "BLKSSZGET", BLKSSZGET, ARGINTG, -1, NULL, N_("get sectorsize") },
#endif

which macro expands to this:
{ "--getbsz", "BLKBSZGET", (((2U) << (((0 +8)+8)+14)) | (((0x12)) << (0 +8)) | 
(((112)) << 0) | (sizeof(sizeof(int)) == sizeof(sizeof(int)[1]) && 
sizeof(sizeof(int)) < (1 << 14)) ? sizeof(sizeof(int)) : 
__invalid_size_argument_for_IOC))) << ((0 +8)+8))), 4, -1, ((void *)0), ("get 
blocksize") }, 
 
If you look closely you will see sizeoff(int)[1]. That
is the error which occurs in all three lines here (and
also once in get_blocks.c.

Has anyone else run across this? It looks like a problem
in the _IOR and _IOW macros.

I'm not subscribed to the list, but I'll check back via
the web archive.

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Re: Debian Server Compromise -- A Fire Drill ??

2003-12-04 Thread Johannes Zarl
On Thursday 04 December 2003 17:43, Tom wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 10:15:12AM -0600, John Hasler wrote:
> > ...  That's why the kernel
> > developers thought it was just an ordinary bug: they could see no way
> > to exploit it.
>
> That statement is somewhat disconcerting.  The hypothesis is that many
> eyes detect secure bugs, and here is clear case evidence contradicting
> that hypothesis.


Actually, the hypothesis is that many eyes detect severe bugs more likely. 
So one severe bug going undetected (or in this case underestimated) 
doesn't disprove the hypothesis. 


>
> One must assume there are more bugs in this class.

Definitely. Like in every big software-project one must assume there are 
(severe) bugs going undetected. 

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Re: Kernel upgrade time

2003-12-04 Thread Hoyt Bailey

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From: "Tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "debian-user" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 07:10
Subject: Re: Kernel upgrade time


> On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 06:41:30AM -0600, Hoyt Bailey wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 03:15:06PM -0800, Tom wrote:
> >
> > Fact: Closer to 5 pints than 5 gallons.
> >
> > > > gallons of blood.  A swimming pool holds about 25,000 gallons of
fluid.
> > >
> > > Sorry, I forgot how my story goes: the human body holds about 1 gallon
> > > of blood.  It's been 13 years since I told this story much.
>
> Yeah, I butchered that part of the story.  I wonder if I can still find
> my copy of "Brought to Light".  That and the "Butter Battle Book" helped
> me form my worldview -- I'm fully aware (in quantitative terms) of all
> the murders and evil our side has done, and yet I know at a deeper level
> the guys who did it are on my side and aren't scary.
>
> I guess if you're not on my side they're scary.
>
Your worldview is screwed up.  Do some fact checking.
Hoyt



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Re: Creating VCD from AVI

2003-12-04 Thread Haim Ashkenazi
Aryan Ameri wrote:

> Hi there:
> 
> I have some AVI files here, which are riped from my DVDs using acidrip
> (a frontend to mencoder). Now I want to write to a CD as a VCD, so that
> they don't took space on my hard.
> 
> My googling shows that there are a couple of tools I should use.
> mjpegtools, vcdimager, cdrdao etc. However I don't quite get the
> picture that want: How can I build a VCD. What is the process of making
> a VCD, from a AVI file.
http://www.vcdhelp.com is a good place to start (although it mostly deals
with windows).

basically you have to convert your AVI's to mpeg with the appropriate
settings (resolution, framerate, etc...) which will cause your avi to split
to 2 - 3 parts, and then you make a vcd from each part.
I use 'kavi2svcd' to deal with the mpeg creation (afaik there isn't a deb
for it) and k3b for burning the mpeg. 

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Re: libvorbis0-dev missing

2003-12-04 Thread Florian Ernst
Hello Arash!

On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 10:37:09AM +0330, Arash Bijanzadeh wrote:
It seems to me that libvorbis package is missing from the repository of sarge. 
Trying to install kdelibs4-dev depends on libvorbis0-dev in a tree that could 
not be satisfied.
Hmm, on "my" Sarge kdelibs4-dev doesn't depend on libvorbis0-dev but
on libvorbis-dev and libvorbis0a.
When did you last update your database?

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Re: loading ide-scsi at bootup

2003-12-04 Thread Andreas Janssen
Hello

Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri. (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

> I am using debian testing/unstable with kde. I have a CDRW/DVD combo
> on hdd. I have added the line "append hdd=ide-scsi" in lilo.conf. The
> ide-scsi module is not beingloaded at boot up. How do I go about
> setting it so that it is loaded at startup.

Edit /etc/modules and add

ide-scsi

or use modconf.

best regards
Andreas Janssen

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Re: Swap Distribution

2003-12-04 Thread Vineet Kumar
* Mariano Wahlmann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [031204 05:46]:
> Hi, I'm currently admin , and here we use RedHat distribution, but last
> tendencies of RedHat, told me that i must to change my Linux
> Distribution, i thought about Debian, wich is very popular, but i want
> to know if debian has the an automatic update tool (like up2date), i

debian's maintenance and upgrade facilities blow everything at redhat
out of the water.  Completely.  In the redhat world, a reinstall is SOP.
With Debian, you'll never have to reinstall.  Upgrades just work.

> read that debian use apt, how long did debian keep support?, RedHat keep
> releasing uptades for 5 years for each version.

I don't know where you get that figure.  This:

  Red Hat Linux -- Red Hat's policy for Red Hat Linux distributions is
  to provide maintenance for at least 12 months. At certain times, Red
  Hat may extend errata maintenance for certain popular releases of the
  operating system. End of Life dates for errata maintenance for
  currently supported products are listed below:
 
 
Red Hat Linux 9 (Shrike)April 30, 2004   
Red Hat Linux 8.0 (Psyche)  December 31, 2003
Red Hat Linux 7.3 (Valhalla)December 31, 2003
Red Hat Linux 7.2 (Enigma)  December 31, 2003
Red Hat Linux 7.1 (Seawolf) December 31, 2003

comes from here:

http://www.redhat.com/apps/support/errata/

I haven't been paying all that close attention, but I'm pretty sure 9
wasn't released in 1999, nor even 8.0 for that matter.

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Re: changing from xdm to kdm

2003-12-04 Thread Andreas Janssen
Hello

Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri. (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

> I am on debian testing/unstable. I have built this up from a base
> install of woody then upgraded and then installed first X and then
> KDE. On startup, I get the xdm screen. How do I change this to the kde
> login screen.

You can use

dpkg-reconfigure xdm

or

dpkg-reconfigure kdm

or edit /etc/X11/default-display-manager

If you want to remove xdm, I suggest using the purge parameter (dpkg
--purge xdm or apt-get --purge remove xdm), this will also remove the
configuration files and init scripts for xdm.

best regards
Andreas Janssen

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Re: loading ide-scsi at bootup

2003-12-04 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri. wrote:
I am using debian testing/unstable with kde. I have a CDRW/DVD combo on
hdd. I have added the line "append hdd=ide-scsi" in lilo.conf. The
ide-scsi module is not beingloaded at boot up. How do I go about setting
it so that it is loaded at startup. 

I am a recent migrant from RedHat and this was always automatically setup
under rh.
thanks,

Sharukh.
Welcome to Debian.

Add the line
ide-scsi
to /etc/modules.
Be sure to read 
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/reference.en.html#contents

or you might get unkind answers...

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Re: loading ide-scsi at bootup

2003-12-04 Thread Xavier Andrade
On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri. wrote:

> I am using debian testing/unstable with kde. I have a CDRW/DVD combo on
> hdd. I have added the line "append hdd=ide-scsi" in lilo.conf. The
> ide-scsi module is not beingloaded at boot up. How do I go about setting
> it so that it is loaded at startup.
>
Just add "ide-scsi" to /etc/modules or load it using modconf.

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