fc-cache error: Cannot load default config file

[LeVA]

Hello!

This is my third post on this list with this problem, hope that now 
someone notice it :)
So my first question is what does fc-cache do?
My second is, why does it write "Fontconfig error: Cannot load default 
config file" when I run it.
Why doest all kde applications writes the same error message when I run 
then from console (to see the output).
My bonus question is why does all kde apps runs this fc-cache when they 
start? Do they realy start it, or this error message is accidentally the 
same between the programs?

Thanks!

Daniel

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Re: X11R6

[Paul William]

run tasksel as root and select "desktop environment" and then (i think)
click finish and then do whatever else it tells you to do.

On Sun, 2003-10-26 at 15:10, David R Hovland wrote:
> How do you get xwindows to start in Debian?  I have reloaded it four
> times thinking I needed to use a different disk. I downloaded all
> seven. All I get at login is this:
>  
> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xserverrc: /usr/bin/X11/X: No such file or
> directory.
> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xserverrc: exec: /usr/bin/X11/X: cannot
> execute: No such file or directory.
>  
> giving up.
>  
> xinit: Connection refused (errno 111): unable to connect to xserver
> xinit: No such process (errno 3): Server error
>  
> I have two other Distro's on this machine, each on a different
> harddrive, which have no trouble setting it up.  The video card is an
> Nvidia MX200 GF2.  Is this the problem?
>  
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Re: phonetic symbols

[kmark+debian]

On Sat, 25 Oct 2003, L.F. wrote:

> I have changed from Windows 2000 to Linux because of the viruses.
Good move.
 Iam
> very happy now because Linux is much safer and much more stable.However, I
> have a problem: I have a file with words in English with the phonetic
> transcription
Is the file in MS word, ascii, rtf? Or a special app?
 but Openoffice or KWord of Debian-Linux doesn't convert some of
> the symbols:the schwa, the symbol for sh in ship, the symbol for ch in chair,
> the symbol for j in John, the symbol for s in television, the symbol for s
> in treasure, the symbol for th in three, the symbol for u in cut.
OK. so the font must not be available. It can be read by OO or kword WITH
the exeption of the special symbols?
 I
> have downloaded the tippa fonts and all  the others from Debian and they are
> available in my computer. Could somebody help me to solve this problem?
> Thanks in advance.
>

Sounds like you need to convert from one font to another. so /schwa/ ->
chr(some-number), a->a,A->, etc. sounds like a task for sed or perl or
maybe tr?
-kev


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Debian bug-squashing party, Sunday November 9th 2003, Ecublens, Switzerland

[Erik Rossen]

Debian bug-squashing party, Sunday November 9th 2003, Ecublens, Switzerland

To celebrate the 10th anniversary of the Debian GNU/Linux distribution, the
GULL (Groupe romand des Utilisateurs de Linux et de Logiciels Libres)
will be organising a bug-squashing party that will be open to members
and non-members.

Here is the plan:

1.  We lock 10 to 40 volunteers in a large room in the building of Nimag SA.

2.  The volunteers are provided with all of the computers, bandwidth,
electricity, pizza, and beer that they need to work well.

3.  The volunteers fix bugs listed in Debian Bug-Tracking System (BTS)
http://bugs.debian.org from 12h00 to 20h00.

4.  A bug is considered fixed when a solution has been found, verified by
another volunteer, and an email sent to the package maintainer.

The GULL will pay for the food and drink of all volunteers who fix at least one
bug (even a tiny one).  The others will be expected to pay their way or clean
up the mess.  Or have a rock tied to their feet and be thrown into the lake.

There will be a number of demonstrations of various techniques used in the
eradication of bugs:

* how to use the BTS and the reportbug program

* building a test system (stable, testing, or unstable) in a subdirectory using
  debootstrap and running programs from it

* using diff, patch, strace and gdb

* anything else that comes up


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* who you are and that you want to come to the party

* whether you will or will not be bringing a portable computer with a network
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* what bugs you want to fix or what packages you wish to work on (if you
  already have an idea)

* whether you want to give a demonstration or participate in the organisation
  of the party

* any ideas that you have to make the party more fun or productive

The planning page (mostly in French) can be found at
http://www.linux-gull.ch/manif/bugsquash2003.html

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Re: Simple little basic config questions

[kmark+debian]

On Sat, 25 Oct 2003, Haines Brown wrote:

> In moving from RedHat to debian, I'm left with some simple little
> basic configuration questions. They all relate to a situation in which
> I operate at this point from console.
>
> 1. Where do I set the global bash prompt format? I changed PS1= in
>/etc/profile, but that only affects user, not root.
>
> 2. I had placed the command "setterm -blank 0" in RedHat's
>/etc/rc.d/rc.local to block screen blanking while running in
>console. Debian does not use that file. What is its equivalent?
>
> 3. My usual practice is to avoid xdm and boot to a text login
>prompt. To do this, in rc2.d I belive I edited the symlink to the
>xdm program, renaming "S99xdm ->..." to "K99xdm ->...". But in
>debian I get a beep when I try. Am I imagining I once edited the
>name of a symlink? Can't one do it in debian?

Hi H,
one of the 'freedoms' of debian is that runlevel 2 to 5 are the same. 2 is
the default runlevel. RH and others have seperate runlevels. Its something
that confused me and there are some people out there like me who like the
RH runlevel scheme but havent changed prevailing minds. Oh well!
-Kev


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Re: Simple little basic config questions

[Sridhar M.A.]

On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 09:08:48PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
   > On Sat, 2003-10-25 at 19:57, Haines Brown wrote:
   > > 
   > > 3. My usual practice is to avoid xdm and boot to a text login
   > >prompt. To do this, in rc2.d I belive I edited the symlink to the
   > >xdm program, renaming "S99xdm ->..." to "K99xdm ->...". But in
   > >debian I get a beep when I try. Am I imagining I once edited the
   > >name of a symlink? Can't one do it in debian?
   > 
   > That's almost exactly what I did:
   > # cd /etc/rc2.d
   > # mv S99xdm __S99xdm
   > 
   > You get a beep when you try to rename the file?  If so, are you
   > sure the file /etc/rc2.d/S99xdm exists?
   > 
   > Of course, you could always deinstall xdm :
   > # apt-get --purge remove xdm
   > 
If one installs (x/g/k)dm and does use intend to use it, removing it is
the best option. But, if your server is not properly configured and you
intend to try something else, booting into (x/g/k)dm should be
temporarily disabled. 

I generally do not manually create/remove symlinks in rd?.d. I just do a

   update-rc.d -f xdm remove

will do all the work for you.

HTH,

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Re: What is the root-n in my root??

[kmark+debian]

On Sat, 25 Oct 2003, Marco Bagni wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> before submitting this request of help I have been looking around quite
> a while in my system and in the user groups without success.
>
> My problem is the following, I run a Debian system aligned with the
> latest testing distribution and kernel 2.4.22. Since few months I
> noticed a file
>
> -rwxr-xr-x1 root root0 Aug 24 01:19 root-n
>
> that continued to be re-created in my root directory at startup
>
> Since I don't think to have some kind of intruders in my system (what
> intruder is so silly to leave such a blatant trace behind?) I think that
> there must be some installed package that:
>
> 1) needs to be configured - I checked the /etc directory without success.
>
> 2) has something going wrong - but everything seems to work fine.
>
> Can anybody help??
>
> Thank you in advance.
>
> Marco

Hi Marco,
Here is my suggestion. Its time to be Sherlock Homes. Put on your hat and
get your pipe! Examine you /var/log/messages and note the times. Now look
at the time-date stamp of the file. See what was happening in /var/log/messages
when the file was created. Was the file created after at the same time?
What /etc/init.d/ script was being executed before and/or after the time
of the files creation.
Tell us what you find.
-Kev


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Re: why is debian the only distribution that won't let me run X?

[Dr.-Ing. C. Hurschler]

On Sunday 26 October 2003 00:58, Wilko Fokken wrote:
>
> This is not to blame any Debian developer: I am just experiencing what
> it means to add some adaequate instructions to my little anti-spam mail
> handling system; it seems to take much more time than programming the
> stuff itself.

No I don't want to sound like I'm complaining either.  In fact I'm very 
gratefull for the work they've done, and the whole thing is still really 
amazing to me.

Chris

>
> btw.
> Does anybody know how to get a "100x40" or "100x37" textmode with a NOT
> SVGA-compatible graphic card, I mean a replacement for 'SVGATextMode' ?

sorry, I don't.

Chris

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Re: Migrated to debian; aliases stopped working

[David Jardine]

On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 08:30:12PM -0400, Haines Brown wrote:
> When I moved to debian, my aliases are no longer working. For example,
> in /etc/aliases I have the following entry:
> 
>debian:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> However, when I try to send a message to debian, it sends a
> message to [EMAIL PROTECTED], which is my FQDN attached
> to the alias name. That is, the alias db is not being used. I ran
> both # newaliases (which I did under RedHat/sendmal) and I ran #
> postfix /etc/aliases (I'm now using postfix under debian).
> 
> I'm not sure, but is the first command associated only with sendmail,
> and I should now use the second only? In any case, the /etc/alias.db
> that builds is not being used when I send messages. 

I'm using mutt and have aliases in /etc/Muttrc, eg

alias debian [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: Debian bug-squashing party, Sunday November 9th 2003, Ecublens, Switzerland

[Paul William]

what a kool idea. Pity I live on the other side of the world (New Zealand). Enjoy the 
party.

Cheers

Paul


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Re: Simple little basic config questions

[David Jardine]

On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 09:08:48PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:

> 
> Of course, you could always deinstall xdm :
> # apt-get --purge remove xdm

apt-get remove --purge xdm

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Re: Simple little basic config questions

[David Jardine]

On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 10:26:29PM -0500, Kent West wrote:
> Haines Brown wrote:
> 
> >In moving from RedHat to debian, I'm left with some simple little
> >basic configuration questions. They all relate to a situation in which
> >I operate at this point from console. 
> >
> >1. Where do I set the global bash prompt format? I changed PS1= in 
> >  /etc/profile, but that only affects user, not root.
> > 
> >
> This is the place; however, users can over-ride this by creating their 
> own ~/.profile file. I believe a typical Debian setup does not have 
> personal .profiles in users' home directories by default, but there is 
> one in root's home directory by default.

My system (woody) sets up .bash_profile when a new user is added.

> 
> >2. I had placed the command "setterm -blank 0" in RedHat's
> >  /etc/rc.d/rc.local to block screen blanking while running in
> >  console. Debian does not use that file. What is its equivalent?
> >
> Sorry; can't address this one.
> 
> >3. My usual practice is to avoid xdm and boot to a text login
> >  prompt. To do this, in rc2.d I belive I edited the symlink to the
> >  xdm program, renaming "S99xdm ->..." to "K99xdm ->...". But in
> >  debian I get a beep when I try. Am I imagining I once edited the
> >  name of a symlink? Can't one do it in debian?
> >
> Yes, you can do it in Debian. I'm not sure when you're getting the beep; 
> is it when you're trying to rename the file, or when the script runs, or 
> what? However, if you don't ever want xdm to run, I'd suggest you just 
> remove it:
>apt-get --purge remove xdm
> You can always reinstall it later if you want it:
>apt-get install xdm
> 
> There are other ways to defeat xdm also, such as renaming the actual 
> script (not just the symlink) in /etc/init.d, or by placing an "exit 0" 
> as the first executable line in the script.
> 
> 
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Re: 2.6.0-test8 PCI (?) troubles

[Andre Kalus]

On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 22:39:55 +0200, Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote:

>>You do not have to compile a
>> new kernel for this, just try to append one of the following options in
>> the boot prompt (edit lilo.conf or menu.list (grub)):
>>
>> pci=noacpi
>> pci=biosirq
>> acpi=off
> 
> I tried adding all three, but it had appreciable effect Was it wrong
> to add all three, or should I conclude this wasn't it...?
> 

No, you only have to add one. Try acpi=off first - if your system does not
boot with this option you can forget about the others.

If it works but you do not want to disable ACPI you can try one of the
others.

Greetings
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Re: Simple little basic config questions

[Ron Johnson]

On Sun, 2003-10-26 at 04:26, David Jardine wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 09:08:48PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Of course, you could always deinstall xdm :
> > # apt-get --purge remove xdm
> 
> apt-get remove --purge xdm

Doesn't matter which way it's ordered.

# apt-get -s remove --purge mc
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  mc*
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 457 not upgraded.
Purg mc (1:4.6.0-5 Debian:testing)

# apt-get -s --purge remove mc
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  mc*
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 457 not upgraded.
Purg mc (1:4.6.0-5 Debian:testing)


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Re: Insidious Spam/swen/Garbage

[Andre Kalus]

On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 23:33:30 +0100, Pigeon wrote:

> On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 10:28:26PM +0200, David Jardine wrote:
>> On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 02:39:43AM +0100, Pigeon wrote:
>> > On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 01:14:38AM +0200, David Jardine wrote:
>> > > It is beyond my capability (but only slightly, I feel, and it should
>> > > be very easy for lots of people here) to produce a sort of
>> > > interactive fetchmail that reads the headers of each message on the
>> > > server, presents them to you and asks if you want to fetch the
>> > > message or delete it.  This is what I would like to have.
>> > 
>> > ...like pop3browser?
>> 
>> That looks useful - when I can get it working :( - and decently small.
> 
> ...it's dead easy; what problem are you having?

It is very simple - you do not need any config. I just installed mutt
(from unstable). Then I call:

mutt -f pop://[EMAIL PROTECTED]

where xxx is my customer number from GMX (you can use both e-Mail
address and customer number as login but I guess E-mail won't work because
it has an @ inside). pop.gmx.net is your providers pop server.

Then you are asked for your password and see the contents of your mailbox.
Use arrow keys to move up and down, press D to delete a message. Q exits
mutt, it asks you to delete the marked ("D") messages. Just press enter
and you are done.

I do have a dial-up connection too, so this is my way to get rid of SWEN...

Greetings
Andre


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Re: Insidious Spam/swen/Garbage

[David Jardine]

On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 11:33:30PM +0100, Pigeon wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 10:28:26PM +0200, David Jardine wrote:
> > On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 02:39:43AM +0100, Pigeon wrote:
> > > On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 01:14:38AM +0200, David Jardine wrote:
> > > > It is beyond my capability (but only slightly, I feel, and it 
> > > > should be very easy for lots of people here) to produce a sort of 
> > > > interactive fetchmail that reads the headers of each message on 
> > > > the server, presents them to you and asks if you want to fetch 
> > > > the message or delete it.  This is what I would like to have.
> > > 
> > > ...like pop3browser? 
> > 
> > That looks useful - when I can get it working :( - and decently
> > small.
> 
> ...it's dead easy; what problem are you having?

Dead easy things are a challenge to my two-by-five-thumbed-handedness 
to which I always rise.  Actually I've got it working now and it's 
pretty nifty.  Thanks for the pointer.

> 
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> 
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unstable cups problem

[Richard Lyons]

I've just done an update on a system that was originally a Knoppix 2.1 
install, and is now mainly unstable (I suppose). 

Since the update, cups doesn't actually print anything.  The jobs appear in 
the print manager (under KDE) as "Processing..." and stay there permanently.  
As cups does not allow ordinary users to cancel jobs, I have to log out, log 
on as root and start a root KDE session - which I hate to do at all - in 
order to open print manager and kill the waiting jobs.  Even the test print 
does the same.  Printer is a Xerox Docuprint4512, fwiw, and did work 
previously (the driver selected was called "Docuprint 4508 Foomatic/ljet4" - 
the nearest available).

Where do I look for a lead?

TIA

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SW for maintaining documentation

[Andraz Sraka]

re

I'm looking for some-kind of software based on phpwiki for maintaining
and keeping documentation (for different servers/routers/services in our
network) with ability/feature to upload (into some CVS
repository/PostgreSQL database) configure files and have a revision
control over it. 

regards,
 Andraz

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Re: 2.6.0-test8 PCI (?) troubles

[Kjetil Kjernsmo]

On Sunday 26 October 2003 11:28, Andre Kalus wrote:
> No, you only have to add one. Try acpi=off first - if your system
> does not boot with this option you can forget about the others.

OK! Anyway, I disabled it in the kernel, built a new one, and it gets a 
bit further. 

Now, it stops with the message
PCI: Using IRQ router VIA [1106/0686] at :00:04.0

I assume this is (from lspci -v on 2.4.22):

00:04.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 [Apollo Super South] 
(rev 40)
Subsystem: Asustek Computer, Inc. A7M266 Mainboard
Flags: bus master, stepping, medium devsel, latency 0
Capabilities: [c0] Power Management version 2

I'm baffled, there are no ISA slots on my mobo... But ISA bridge means 
perhaps something entirely different?

I had disabled ISA completely, but I just enabled it again and compiled 
and booted a kernel, but it didn't make any difference.  

The next thing it says after this in my 2.4.22 dmesg is
PCI: Disabling Via external APIC routing
I have disabled APIC too, some time ago. 

(BTW, MTRR was loaded shortly before, so I disabled that too in my most 
recent build.)

Best,

Kjetil
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Re: Insidious Spam/swen/Garbage

[Ron Johnson]

On Sun, 2003-10-26 at 04:37, Andre Kalus wrote:
> On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 23:33:30 +0100, Pigeon wrote:
> 
> > On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 10:28:26PM +0200, David Jardine wrote:
> >> On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 02:39:43AM +0100, Pigeon wrote:
> >> > On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 01:14:38AM +0200, David Jardine wrote:
> >> > > It is beyond my capability (but only slightly, I feel, and it should
> >> > > be very easy for lots of people here) to produce a sort of
> >> > > interactive fetchmail that reads the headers of each message on the
> >> > > server, presents them to you and asks if you want to fetch the
> >> > > message or delete it.  This is what I would like to have.
> >> > 
> >> > ...like pop3browser?
> >> 
> >> That looks useful - when I can get it working :( - and decently small.
> > 
> > ...it's dead easy; what problem are you having?
> 
> It is very simple - you do not need any config. I just installed mutt
> (from unstable). Then I call:
> 
> mutt -f pop://[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> where xxx is my customer number from GMX (you can use both e-Mail
> address and customer number as login but I guess E-mail won't work because
> it has an @ inside). pop.gmx.net is your providers pop server.
> 
> Then you are asked for your password and see the contents of your mailbox.
> Use arrow keys to move up and down, press D to delete a message. Q exits
> mutt, it asks you to delete the marked ("D") messages. Just press enter
> and you are done.
> 
> I do have a dial-up connection too, so this is my way to get rid of SWEN...

For a high-volume account, this seems *so* tedious.  fetchmail,
exim|postfix, SpamAssassin, and any one of the automated swen
zappers is much more efficient.

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Re: unstable cups problem

[Richard Lyons]

On Sunday 26 October 2003 11:25, Richard Lyons wrote:
[...]
> Since the update, cups doesn't actually print anything. 
[...]

SORRY - to reply to my own post.  Problem solved wondoze-style: reboot.

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Re: Simple little basic config questions

[Haines Brown]

> On Sat, 2003-10-25 at 19:57, Haines Brown wrote:
> > 
> > 1. Where do I set the global bash prompt format? I changed PS1= in 
> >/etc/profile, but that only affects user, not root.
> > 
> > 2. I had placed the command "setterm -blank 0" in RedHat's
> >/etc/rc.d/rc.local to block screen blanking while running in
> >console. Debian does not use that file. What is its equivalent?
> > 
> > 3. My usual practice is to avoid xdm and boot to a text login
> >prompt. To do this, in rc2.d I belive I edited the symlink to the
> >xdm program, renaming "S99xdm ->..." to "K99xdm ->...". But in
> >debian I get a beep when I try. Am I imagining I once edited the
> >name of a symlink? Can't one do it in debian?
> 
> That's almost exactly what I did:
> # cd /etc/rc2.d
> # mv S99xdm __S99xdm

Yes, I was trying to edit the word in emacs in a console, and emacs
was playing tricks on me. But renmaing with mv worked fine. Thanks.


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Re: 2.6.0-test8 PCI (?) troubles

[Andre Kalus]

On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 11:42:39 +0100, Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote:
> 
> Now, it stops with the message
> PCI: Using IRQ router VIA [1106/0686] at :00:04.0
> 
> I assume this is (from lspci -v on 2.4.22):
> 
> 00:04.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 [Apollo Super South]
> (rev 40)
> Subsystem: Asustek Computer, Inc. A7M266 Mainboard Flags: bus
> master, stepping, medium devsel, latency 0 Capabilities: [c0]
> Power Management version 2
> 
> I'm baffled, there are no ISA slots on my mobo... But ISA bridge means
> perhaps something entirely different?

That is OK, I have one in my laptop, too. AFAIK, the ISA bridge is
contained in the chipset that is able to support ISA slots. Mainboard
manufacturers normally do not put ISA slots on boards - except for
industry purposes where you still need them sometimes...


> I had disabled ISA completely, but I just enabled it again and compiled
> and booted a kernel, but it didn't make any difference.

ISA is sometimes needed for PCMCIA support but missing support should not
stop boot process.


> The next thing it says after this in my 2.4.22 dmesg is PCI: Disabling
> Via external APIC routing I have disabled APIC too, some time ago.
> 
> 
Try to enable apic you can disable it by passing "noapic" on the boot
line.

Did you try a kernel version different to test8? - sometimes a kernel
version does not work with everybody's hardware - for me test5 did only
work without ACPI.

I attached my dmesg output so you can have a look if you can find anything
strange before your system hangs.

Greetings
Andre

Linux version 2.6.0-test7 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 3.3.2 20031005 (Debian 
prerelease)) #1 Thu Oct 9 14:17:31 CEST 2003
Video mode to be used for restore is 317
BIOS-provided physical RAM map:
 BIOS-e820:  - 0009fc00 (usable)
 BIOS-e820: 0009fc00 - 000a (reserved)
 BIOS-e820: 000d - 000d4000 (reserved)
 BIOS-e820: 000f - 0010 (reserved)
 BIOS-e820: 0010 - 0fff (usable)
 BIOS-e820: 0fff - 0fff8000 (ACPI data)
 BIOS-e820: 0fff8000 - 1000 (ACPI NVS)
 BIOS-e820: fff8 - 0001 (reserved)
user-defined physical RAM map:
 user:  - 0009fc00 (usable)
 user: 0009fc00 - 000a (reserved)
 user: 000d - 000d4000 (reserved)
 user: 000f - 0010 (reserved)
 user: 0010 - 0fff (usable)
 user: 0fff - 0fff8000 (ACPI data)
 user: 0fff8000 - 1000 (ACPI NVS)
 user: fff8 - 0001 (reserved)
255MB LOWMEM available.
On node 0 totalpages: 65520
  DMA zone: 4096 pages, LIFO batch:1
  Normal zone: 61424 pages, LIFO batch:14
  HighMem zone: 0 pages, LIFO batch:1
DMI 2.3 present.
ACPI: RSDP (v000 AMI   ) @ 0x000fb100
ACPI: RSDT (v001 AMIINT VIA_P6   0x0010 MSFT 0x0097) @ 0x0fff
ACPI: FADT (v001 AMIINT VIA_P6   0x0011 MSFT 0x0097) @ 0x0fff0030
ACPI: DSDT (v001VIA   P4X266 0x1000 INTL 0x02002024) @ 0x
Building zonelist for node : 0
Kernel command line: root=/dev/hda6 vga=791 netprofile=Home pci=noacpi mem=262080K
No local APIC present or hardware disabled
Initializing CPU#0
PID hash table entries: 1024 (order 10: 8192 bytes)
Detected 1592.181 MHz processor.
Console: colour dummy device 80x25
Memory: 255488k/262080k available (2067k kernel code, 5872k reserved, 843k data, 152k 
init, 0k highmem)
Calibrating delay loop... 3072.00 BogoMIPS
Dentry cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 5, 131072 bytes)
Inode-cache hash table entries: 16384 (order: 4, 65536 bytes)
Mount-cache hash table entries: 512 (order: 0, 4096 bytes)
CPU: After generic identify, caps: 3febf9ff   
CPU: After vendor identify, caps: 3febf9ff   
CPU: Trace cache: 12K uops, L1 D cache: 8K
CPU: L2 cache: 512K
CPU: After all inits, caps: 3febf9ff   0080
Intel machine check architecture supported.
Intel machine check reporting enabled on CPU#0.
CPU#0: Intel P4/Xeon Extended MCE MSRs (12) available
CPU#0: Thermal monitoring enabled
CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 1.60GHz stepping 04
Enabling fast FPU save and restore... done.
Enabling unmasked SIMD FPU exception support... done.
Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK.
POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
NET: Registered protocol family 16
PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfdb51, last bus=1
PCI: Using configuration type 1
mtrr: v2.0 (20020519)
ACPI: Subsystem revision 20030918
ACPI: Interpreter enabled
ACPI: Using PIC for interrupt routing
ACPI: PCI Root Bridge [PCI0] (00:00)
PCI: Probing PCI hardware (bus 00)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0._PRT]
ACPI: Power Resource [URP1] (off)
ACPI: Embedded Controller [EC0] (gpe 5)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0

Re: why is debian the only distribution that won't let me run X?

[Eduard Bloch]

Moin Wilko!
Wilko Fokken schrieb am Sunday, den 26. October 2003:

> The same is true for me;
> under "woody", 'debconf' didn't get me anywhere. I guess one has to be
> rich enough to keep up with recently sold mainstream computers. My old
> AMD 133 MHz with a 1 MHz Tseng ET4000 required some manual surgery to
> get my configurations right. (Works nicely now with 'icewm-gnome'.)
> 
> This is not to blame any Debian developer: I am just experiencing what
> it means to add some adaequate instructions to my little anti-spam mail

Ehm, you realize that your case is somehow constructed? ET4000 is about
10 years old, it is at least 3-4 mainstream generations far away from
the current mainstream cards. Further, you don't need X on a mail
gateway.

> btw.
> Does anybody know how to get a "100x40" or "100x37" textmode with a NOT
> SVGA-compatible graphic card, I mean a replacement for 'SVGATextMode' ?

What is "SVGA-compatible" from driver's point of view? If your card is
not supported by any of the SVGATextMode drivers, the only choice you
have is VESA framebuffer. Which, again, requires a VESA2.0 compliant
video card and I not sure whether ET4000 was a such one.

MfG,
Eduard.


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Re: Simple little basic config questions

[Haines Brown]

Thanks, Wayne. I had previously done the basic configurations globally
rather than in ~/.bashrc, but your suggestion to do it for each user
has a backup advantage.

Haines


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Re: Migrated to debian; aliases stopped working

[Joachim Fahnenmueller]

On Sun, Oct 26, 2003 at 11:21:07AM +0100, David Jardine wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 08:30:12PM -0400, Haines Brown wrote:
> > When I moved to debian, my aliases are no longer working. For example,
> > in /etc/aliases I have the following entry:
> > 
> >debian:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
> > However, when I try to send a message to debian, it sends a
> > message to [EMAIL PROTECTED], which is my FQDN attached
> > to the alias name. That is, the alias db is not being used. I ran
> > both # newaliases (which I did under RedHat/sendmal) and I ran #
> > postfix /etc/aliases (I'm now using postfix under debian).
> > 
> > I'm not sure, but is the first command associated only with sendmail,
> > and I should now use the second only? In any case, the /etc/alias.db
> > that builds is not being used when I send messages. 
> 
> I'm using mutt and have aliases in /etc/Muttrc, eg
> 
> alias debian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
Yeah, but that's a different thing. Mutt aliases apply only when you
write mail with mutt but /etc/aliases apply to all mail transport on
your system.

E. g. the line
root: joachim
says that all mail to root is sent to my normal account (mainly messages
from daemons which obviously don't write their mails with mutt).

BTW I use exim and exim.conf contains the following lines about aliases

# This director handles aliasing using a traditional /etc/aliases file.
# If any of your aliases expand to pipes or files, you will need to set
# up a user and a group for these deliveries to run under. You can do
# this by uncommenting the "user" option below (changing the user name
# as appropriate) and adding a "group" option if necessary.

system_aliases:
driver = aliasfile
file_transport = address_file
pipe_transport = address_pipe
file = /etc/aliases
search_type = lsearch
# user = list
# Uncomment the above line if you are running smartlist

Don't know if it's similar for sendmail or postfix.


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strange PIDs on kernel threads

[Nikolai Buer]

Hi.

Chkrootkit gave me the following message:

Checking `lkm'... You have 4 process hidden for ps command
Warning: Possible LKM Trojan installed

So I did:

# chkrootkit -x lkm
ROOTDIR is `/'
###
### Output of: ./chkproc -v -v
###
PID 3: not in ps output
CWD 3: /
EXE 3: /
PID 4: not in ps output
CWD 4: /
EXE 4: /
PID 5: not in ps output
CWD 5: /
EXE 5: /
PID 6: not in ps output
CWD 6: /
EXE 6: /
You have 4 process hidden for ps command

I poked around, and the dirs exist in /proc and contain nothing unusual
(as far as I can see, which may not be far :)

The box is running "unstable", and I have apache installed along with
openssl (I keep the box up to date as much as possible). Apache has been
flaky lately, it doesn't start normally and '/etc/init.d/apache
start|restart' doesn't work. 'apache -X' reveals that it is actually
segfaulting. I usually start apache like this: 'apache -f
/etc/apache/httpd-ssl' which works fine. I'm not sure if this means I've
been cracked through apache, but something is not right. I'm used to
things being odd running unstable, and some handywork is sometimes
needed after a major upgrade, but apache has been like this for a long
time now.

The funny thing is that the PIDs in question here are so low. Moreover,
they're actually not hidden from ps, just set to 0 (impossible).

Here's a short snippet of the output from 'ps uax':

# ps uax
USER  PID %CPU %MEM   VSZ  RSS TTY  STAT START   TIME COMMAND
root1  0.2  0.3  1460  448 ?S11:07   0:08 init [2]
root2  0.0  0.0 00 ?SW   11:07   0:00 [keventd]
root0  0.0  0.0 00 ?SWN  11:07   0:00 [ksoftirqd_CPU0]
root0  0.0  0.0 00 ?SW   11:07   0:00 [kswapd]
root0  0.0  0.0 00 ?SW   11:07   0:00 [bdflush]
root0  0.0  0.0 00 ?SW   11:07   0:00 [kupdated]
root7  0.0  0.0 00 ?SW   11:07   0:00 [pagebufd]
root8  0.0  0.0 00 ?SW   11:07   0:00 [xfslogd/0]
root9  0.0  0.0 00 ?SW   11:07   0:00 [xfsdatad/0]
root   10  0.0  0.0 00 ?SW   11:07   0:00 [kjournald]

As shown, PIDs 3,4,5 and 6 are set to 0

I don't know what this means, but I have it on two boxes (the other one
is not running apache, but may very well be compromised through the
first box). I hope someone can shed some light on this.

Regards,

nikolai.


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Re: Spamassassin Configuration

[Ferenc Wagner]

Will Trillich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> where's the list of all the tests, and what they do?  man
> Mail::SpamAssassin::Conf tells about customization
> directives, but not the tests themselves...

/usr/share/spamassassin/*

Feri.


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Re: Simple little basic config questions

[Haines Brown]

As for setting up basic bash configuration, a little experimentation
shows that this is what I've got (debian 3.0r1). 

Root has both .bashrc and .profile, and the configuations (custom bash
prompt and setterm) can go in either place. User has a .bashrc and
.bash_profile (there's no .profile), and the configuration must go
into the latter. It does not work for me if put into .bashrc.

Thanks for alerting me to this difference.

Haines


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Re: X Windom System will not start

[Hoyt Bailey]

- Original Message - 
From: "Kent West" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "debian-user" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 21:07
Subject: Re: X Windom System will not start


> Hoyt Bailey wrote:
>
> >>
> >>
> >Last First  /etc/fstab

This refers to your last post on this thread.  The ext3 comment is near the
end.
This just proves that ext3 is enabled on the only partition that matters.

> >/dev/hda3/ext3errors=remount-ro0
> >1
> >/dev/hda5noneswapsw
0
> >0
> >Additional proc entrys.
> >
> >
> I don't understand the line "Last First  /etc/fstab"
>
> >I dont know about that errors statement is the system saying  >errors> or .
This refrences the above. The following is an attempt to run
dpkg-reconfigure.

> >Result of dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree8
> >Did not go well, I believe.  The card that showed up was eth0 and the
next
> >panel wanted options for it.  Since I did not have any idea what I should
> >put in I exited the program now I cant get back to that spot the first
panel
> >says that if I want to do a manual configuration I will have to delete
the
> >file or move it.  If I delete the file will it be rebuilt or will I have
to
> >reinstall?  Either is no problem now.
> >
End of comment on dpkg-reconfigure.
Following is from the above(a reference from).

> >Next XF86Config-4
> >Section "Device"
> >Identifier"Generic Video Card"
> >Driver"vesa"
> >Option"UseFBDev""true"
> >EndSection
> >
> >
>
> The above two paragraphs seem to be talking about three different
problems:
> 1) I assume that the sentence "I don't know about that errors
> statement . . ." refers to /etc/fstab, and that you're asking about the
> significance of the "errors=remount-ro" bit. That means that when the
> system mounts the / ("root") partition, if any errors occur, the system
> is to remount the partition in read-only mode.

Ok answers the question.

> 2) X configuration issues
> 3) ethernet configuration issues ("eth0"). I'm unaware of any
> ethernet-related questions during a "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86"
> session, so I'm confused about this.

Frankly so am I.  I expected that from your comment "You need to experiment
with your resolution, color depth, and/or video driver." that the video card
would show up with something about resolution, color, or etc.  I do not have
any idea why eth0 is even involved with video. The eth0 card should be about
network items since I dont have one it should be quite instead its in
promiscuous mode. One apparantly is attempting to run the video(not
working).

>I'm also confused about what file
> will have to be deleted or moved, or to what "spot" you're referring.

The file referd to is XF86-Config-4.  The spot is the panel in
dpkg-reconfigure where the eth0 card appears.

>
> >I know I selected vesa it was the only option that I had ever seen
> >before(Not a good reason). So I looked at the man page and decided that
> >probable that was the wrong choice.  I have downloaded the nVIDIA  nForce
> >Linux Driver in Tarball form.  I hope for better performance from it.  Is
> >there a Install Driver HOW-TO?
> >
> If we're still talking about X issues and not ext3 or eth0 issues (which
> should really go in separate threads), I would suggest trying the "do
> not use Framebuffer" option (by answering accordingly the question
> during "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" - although you could manually
> change /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 and set "UseFBDev" to "false"). I assume

Huh. There isnt a UseFBDev in XF86Config-4.

> that since you downloaded the nVIDIA nForce driver, you have an nVIDIA
> nForce card? All I've ever had access to is cheaper more generic cards,

This is why I listed my system on the original post the card is nVIDIA
GeForce-4 MX-440.

> so I haven't had any experience with this card; perhaps others can help.
> Using the VESA or VGA setting should at least get you something going,
> however.
>
I agree but eth0 isnt going to do it.

> >I also have the Debian Doc Creating Custom Kernals,  but I'm not ready
for
> >that yet but I can see it coming.
> >
> Yes, hold off on that. Let it be another topic for another thread on
> another day.
>
> >Please make suggestions now! Monday may be rough.
> >Hoyt
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
I hope this answers your questions.  I believe that this all relates to the
same problem X Window System will not start.  I might add the following
which dosent show up in the log, but is on the screen just before the login
prompt:

Starting GNOME Display manager: gdm
Not starting K Desktop manager (kdm); It is not the default display manager.
Not starting X Desktop manager (xdm);  It is not the default display
manager.
sic.
I dont know what it all means but I'm betting on the video card.  Or I
suppose the motherboard could be involved.
Regards;
Hoyt



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Re: Simple little basic config questions

[John Hasler]

Kev writes:
> one of the 'freedoms' of debian is that runlevel 2 to 5 are the same. 2
> is the default runlevel. RH and others have seperate runlevels. Its
> something that confused me and there are some people out there like me
> who like the RH runlevel scheme but havent changed prevailing minds.

No need to change minds.  Just change your runlevels to whatever you want
them to be.
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How can I get a working Gnome installation on a new "testing" machine?

[stan]

I'm trying to build a new machine for work this weekend. I'm running out of
weekend, and I still have not mamanged to get a working Gnome install.

What's the best way to get this working on a "testing" machine? It appears
that there may be unmet dependencies, is this curently true?

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Re: 2.6.0-test8 PCI (?) troubles

[Kjetil Kjernsmo]

Hi and thanks for all the help!

On Sunday 26 October 2003 13:18, Andre Kalus wrote:
> ISA is sometimes needed for PCMCIA support but missing support should
> not stop boot process.

OK.

> > The next thing it says after this in my 2.4.22 dmesg is PCI:
> > Disabling Via external APIC routing I have disabled APIC too, some
> > time ago.
>
> Try to enable apic you can disable it by passing "noapic" on the boot
> line.

OK. Actually, reenabling APIC made it stop on the previous spot I had, 
(... BIOS Revision...)

> Did you try a kernel version different to test8? - sometimes a kernel
> version does not work with everybody's hardware - for me test5 did
> only work without ACPI.

Yeah, I just tried test9 too. I downloaded a vanilla test8 yesterday, 
patched it with test9 today. That stopped even earlier... It seems 
something was wrong with the framebuffers. It goes down to where the 
Matrox fb stuff is loaded, then I get back the first few lines where 
the kernel is loaded, and then everything halts. 

However, I built these two kernels very differently. The test8-ruby I've 
built with make-kpkg, and starting out with Andreas' config for his 
kernel. With the test9, I've used make bzImage and friends, and I 
started out with my own 2.4.22 kernel config. 



> I attached my dmesg output so you can have a look if you can find
> anything strange before your system hangs.

OK, thanks!

> Enabling fast FPU save and restore... done.
> Enabling unmasked SIMD FPU exception support... done.
> Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK.
> POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
> NET: Registered protocol family 16
> PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfdb51, last bus=1

OK, so this is where it stops with ACPI and APIC enabled. But I can't 
see anything suspecious... 

> PCI: Using configuration type 1
> mtrr: v2.0 (20020519)
> ACPI: Subsystem revision 20030918
> ACPI: Interpreter enabled
> ACPI: Using PIC for interrupt routing
> ACPI: PCI Root Bridge [PCI0] (00:00)
> PCI: Probing PCI hardware (bus 00)
> ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0._PRT]
> ACPI: Power Resource [URP1] (off)
> ACPI: Embedded Controller [EC0] (gpe 5)
> ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0.AGP_._PRT]
> ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKA] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 *10 11 12 14 15)
> ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKB] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 10 *11 12 14 15)
> ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKC] (IRQs 3 10 11)
> ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKD] (IRQs 5 6 7)
> Linux Plug and Play Support v0.97 (c) Adam Belay
> PnPBIOS: Scanning system for PnP BIOS support...
> PnPBIOS: Found PnP BIOS installation structure at 0xc00f82c0
> PnPBIOS: PnP BIOS version 1.0, entry 0xf:0x729b, dseg 0xf
> PnPBIOS: Unknown tag '0x82', length '25'.
> PnPBIOS: 12 nodes reported by PnP BIOS; 12 recorded by driver
> SCSI subsystem initialized
> Linux Kernel Card Services
>   options:  [pci] [cardbus] [pm]
> PCI: Probing PCI hardware
> PCI: Using IRQ router default [1106/3074] at :00:11.0

Is this an ISA bridge on your system...? This resembles where I stop 
with ACPI and APIC disabled, but there is a lot less happening between 
the two in my case. I didn't write it down, but I would guess it looks 
more like

PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xf0d40, last bus=1
PCI: Using configuration type 1
mtrr: v2.0 (20020519)
PCI: Probing PCI hardware
PCI: Probing PCI hardware (bus 00)
PCI: Using IRQ router VIA [1106/0686] at 00:04.0

I just discovered something interesting with the backstreet ruby 2.4 
kernel I've been struggling with too. I had a problem that e2fsck 
complained about a bad superblock, and now it turns out this was 
connected to that I booted the kernel with mount=devfs (or was it the 
other way around). 

I'm obviously getting real ruby on 2.6 up and running (since I have 
Matrox DH card), so I'm always happy for more help! Meanwhile, I'll 
explore the backstreet-ruby with 2.4 some more to see if I can get that 
running. If I get that running first, I think I'll stick with it. 

Best,

Kjetil
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Re: Simple little basic config questions

[Haines Brown]

> one of the 'freedoms' of debian is that runlevel 2 to 5 are the same. 2 is
> the default runlevel. RH and others have seperate runlevels. Its something
> that confused me and there are some people out there like me who like the
> RH runlevel scheme but havent changed prevailing minds. Oh well!

Kev,

Yes, my sense has been that in principle one designs a set of
alternative run levels 3-5, leaving runlevel 2 in its default state,
and than for whatever reason, you switch runlevels to get a different
setup. I suspect that this involves a command such as # init 5, but
I've never tried it. 

Does that init command simply change the default runlevel? It seems
that default is set in /etc/inittab, where it has: id:5:initdefault:
. I assume you can also simply edit this line to change the default
runlevel when you boot up. 

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Re: vim syntax

[Gregory Seidman]

On Sun, Oct 26, 2003 at 05:25:01PM +1300, Paul William wrote:
} Hi
} 
} How do I have vim syntax highlighting always on instead of having to
} type :syntax on?

Add syntax on to your .vimrc

} Thanks
} Paul
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Re: Simple little basic config questions

[Haines Brown]

> On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 09:08:48PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > 
> > Of course, you could always deinstall xdm :
> > # apt-get --purge remove xdm
> 
> apt-get remove --purge xdm

Yes, on second thought, removal might be best, since I'll never use
xdm, and with a new install, this is a good time to clean house before
I fill it with new furniture. 

For example, I'm now running postfix, but exim seems to be around as
a result of basic installation. The apt-get remove --purge command I
understand will remove exim's configuration files as well. I hope it
would not abuse any files that postfix needs. I guess the aptitude
equivalent would simply be # aptitude purge .

Haines


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Re: unstable cups problem

[Lou Losee]

* Richard Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-10-26 05:37]:
  
> As cups does not allow ordinary users to cancel jobs, I have to log out, log 
> on as root and start a root KDE session - which I hate to do at all - in 
> order to open print manager and kill the waiting jobs.

The print jobs can still be managed via the command line.  Use lpq to
view the jobs, lprm 'spool-number' to remove them.  If you are not
authorized to delete the job, use sudo to gain root authority for the
command.

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rm -rf .* alternatives (was: Re: I broke gnome2 *snff*)

[Karsten M. Self]

on Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 03:28:36PM +0100, Colin Watson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 11:36:25PM +0930, David Purton wrote:

> > Sadly no, I neglected to say that I could not get things to work even
> > using a test account and doing an rm -rf .* in $HOME.
> 
> Just in case other people try this, 'rm -rf .*' is VERY DANGEROUS. '.*'
> expands to include '.' and '..', and if you happen to have privileges to
> write to the parent directory then you'll end up removing all
> directories *next* to your current directory as well!

So what do folks do?

rm -rf .?*  # will expand to include ..

rm -rf .[^.]*   # seems right.

find . -depth -print0 | xargs rm  # Usually works.

If you're really paranoid:

chown -r peon .
su -c 'rm -rf .' peon

...which first changes ownership to a nonprivileged user, then runs the
rm as that user.  Keeps you from mucking things up in a rootly way.

Personally I tend to walk through trees very carefully when doing
deletes.


Other tips?

Peace.

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Re: SW for maintaining documentation

[Karsten M. Self]

on Sun, Oct 26, 2003 at 09:55:02AM -0400, Randy Kramer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Sunday 26 October 2003 05:19 am, Andraz Sraka wrote:
> > I'm looking for some-kind of software based on phpwiki for maintaining
> > and keeping documentation (for different servers/routers/services in our
> > network) with ability/feature to upload (into some CVS
> > repository/PostgreSQL database) configure files and have a revision
> > control over it.
> 
> I know this is off-point, but TWiki (http://twiki.org) is a wiki with
> built-in version control.

Seconded, strongly.

Peace.

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Re: Insidious Spam/swen/Garbage

[Arnt Karlsen]

On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 04:50:35 -0600, 
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> On Sun, 2003-10-26 at 04:37, Andre Kalus wrote:
> > On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 23:33:30 +0100, Pigeon wrote:
> > 
> > > On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 10:28:26PM +0200, David Jardine wrote:
> > >> On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 02:39:43AM +0100, Pigeon wrote:
> > >> > On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 01:14:38AM +0200, David Jardine wrote:
> > >> > > It is beyond my capability (but only slightly, I feel, and it
> > >should> > > be very easy for lots of people here) to produce a sort
> > >of> > > interactive fetchmail that reads the headers of each
> > >message on the> > > server, presents them to you and asks if you
> > >want to fetch the> > > message or delete it.  This is what I would
> > >like to have.> > 
> > >> > ...like pop3browser?
> > >> 
> > >> That looks useful - when I can get it working :( - and decently
> > >small.
> > > 
> > > ...it's dead easy; what problem are you having?
> > 
> > It is very simple - you do not need any config. I just installed
> > mutt(from unstable). Then I call:
> > 
> > mutt -f pop://[EMAIL PROTECTED]

..or:  mutt -f pop://xxx:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on high latency
wiring...

> > where xxx is my customer number from GMX (you can use both
> > e-Mail address and customer number as login but I guess E-mail won't
> > work because it has an @ inside). pop.gmx.net is your providers pop
> > server.
> > 
> > Then you are asked for your password and see the contents of your
> > mailbox. Use arrow keys to move up and down, press D to delete a
> > message. Q exits mutt, it asks you to delete the marked ("D")
> > messages. Just press enter and you are done.
> > 
> > I do have a dial-up connection too, so this is my way to get rid of
> > SWEN...
> 
> For a high-volume account, this seems *so* tedious.  fetchmail,
> exim|postfix, SpamAssassin, and any one of the automated swen
> zappers is much more efficient.

..sure, but it sure beats web interfaces when in a pinch. 


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WinTV driver docs?

[stan]

I'm having a hard time finding the docs for the WinTV (bt848?) driver.

I need to support 2 of these cards in one computer, and they both need to
take their input from composite video, instead of the tuner.

A google search for "bt848+Linux" seems to point to some rally old links.

Or is that the wrong driver to use?

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Re: X Windom System will not start

[Kent West]

Hoyt Bailey wrote:

   3) ethernet configuration issues ("eth0"). I'm unaware of any
ethernet-related questions during a "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86"
session, so I'm confused about this.
   

Frankly so am I.  I expected that from your comment "You need to experiment
with your resolution, color depth, and/or video driver." that the video card
would show up with something about resolution, color, or etc.  I do not have
any idea why eth0 is even involved with video. The eth0 card should be about
network items since I dont have one it should be quite instead its in
promiscuous mode. One apparantly is attempting to run the video(not
working).
 

The only thing I can guess is that you do have an ethernet "card" (run 
"lspci" and look for a line referring to an Ethernet controller) built 
into your motherboard, and you're just not using it so are not aware of 
its existence. I'm further guessing that when you run "dpkg-reconfigure 
xserver-xfree86", dpkg is seeing that some other packages (ie something 
relating to ethernet) needs to be configured first, and is running that 
routine. When reconfiguring the xserver, the top of the screen should 
say something like "Configuring Xserver-xfree86". Does your screen that 
refers to "eth0" say that, or something different?

I'm also confused about what file
will have to be deleted or moved, or to what "spot" you're referring.
   

The file referd to is XF86-Config-4.  The spot is the panel in
dpkg-reconfigure where the eth0 card appears.
 

RE: moving/renaming/deleting /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 -- when you run 
"dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86", this file should be recreated.


If we're still talking about X issues and not ext3 or eth0 issues (which
should really go in separate threads), I would suggest trying the "do
not use Framebuffer" option (by answering accordingly the question
during "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" - although you could manually
change /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 and set "UseFBDev" to "false"). I assume
   

Huh. There isnt a UseFBDev in XF86Config-4.

According to your earlier post, yes, there is:

Next XF86Config-4
Section "Device"
  Identifier"Generic Video Card"
  Driver"vesa"
  Option"UseFBDev""true"< HERE IT IS
EndSection
   


This is why I listed my system on the original post the card is nVIDIA
GeForce-4 MX-440.
 

Sorry; it didn't register I guess.

 

so I haven't had any experience with this card; perhaps others can help.
Using the VESA or VGA setting should at least get you something going,
however.
   

I agree but eth0 isnt going to do it.
 

 

I hope this answers your questions.  I believe that this all relates to the
same problem X Window System will not start.  I might add the following
which dosent show up in the log, but is on the screen just before the login
prompt:

Starting GNOME Display manager: gdm
Not starting K Desktop manager (kdm); It is not the default display manager.
Not starting X Desktop manager (xdm);  It is not the default display
manager.
sic.
I dont know what it all means but I'm betting on the video card.  Or I
suppose the motherboard could be involved.
 

xdm/gdm/wdm/kdm are session managers. They are basically graphical login 
screens; when you log in via a session manager, it starts up an X 
session for you. This is opposed to logging in at a text console, and 
then manually starting X with "startx".

You have three session managers installed (gdm and kdm and xdm), but 
since you can only use one at a time, Debian has a system for making one 
active and the others dormant. kdm and xdm are dormant ("It is not the 
default display manager."); this is perfectly normal. You can switch 
between the three with some Debian command (I believe it's 
"update-alternatives"), but I'm unfamiliar with its use. I generally 
just uninstall the session managers I don't want to use, and if I want 
to change later, I just install the new one and get asked then -- hey, 
that's a thought: try "dpkg-reconfigure kdm" and see if that asks which 
session manager you want to use.

But of course, none of these session managers will work until you have a 
working /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file.

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Re: Debian bug-squashing party, Sunday November 9th 2003, Ecublens, Switzerland

[Paul William]

On Mon, 2003-10-27 at 03:47, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 22:24:02 +1300, 
> Paul William <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> > what a kool idea. Pity I live on the other side of the world (New
> > Zealand). Enjoy the party.
> 
> ..pity?  You swim?  ;-)

Not in the weather we have been having recently.

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> ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry...
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Re: Problem with sed, Exec format error.

[Bijan Soleymani]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bojan Baros) writes:

> I was wondering if anyone could give me a hand.  I think it might have
> with the fact that it is a 64 bit, while everything else in the /bin is
> 32 bit.  I did not explicitly ask for any 64 bit installation with the
> apt-get, so I am unsure where the problem is.

A simple solution would be to download the correct sed package and use
dpkg to install it:
dpkg -i sed-package-name.deb

If that fails then extract the files from the package and copy the
file sed to /bin/sed:
dpkg -x sed-package-name ./
cp ./bin/sed /bin/

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Re: hi

[Arnt Karlsen]

On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:12:27 -0600, 
"michael stephens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> I have a satellite pro 420cds and I do not know the password to boot I
> baught it used. can you help. sandra
> 

..sure. First set your X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 to
send  text-only messages, people here _hate_ html in email.

..secondly, if it stops the laptop from booting into the opearting 
system, with a boot-up password, ask whomever you bought it 
from.  If (s)he does not know, ask the vendor who sold it initially,
they will usually want to know the serial number to verify it has 
not been stolen.

..if it does boot all the way up to a login prompt, and you did not buy
a Microsoft license to go with the laptop, just wipe it clean and
install Debian Linux, you cannot use any Microsoft Windows legally 
without a paid for license from Microsoft.

..the details on installing Debian linux: http://www.debian.org/

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Re: WinTV driver docs?

[stan]

On Sun, Oct 26, 2003 at 04:04:18PM +0100, Albert Dengg wrote:
> I think you will need the bttv driver, thich is included in the kernel
> source...
> for more information have a look at the homepage:
> http://bytesex.org/bttv/
> 
> I'm using mine whithout any problems (only one card & from tv
> though)
> 
Thanks for the pointer.

I've got the 2 cards for the work achine on order, but in an attempt to
move oward this weekend, I garabed an older WinTV card out of a working
system and put it in the work machine.

However, I'm having problems getting the bttv module to load. 

It's a Debian "testing" machine with a 2.4.22 kernel that I compiled.
Here's what I'm getting

dmesg


Script started on Sun Oct 26 10:42:37 2003
cogenvs:~# dmesg
Linux version 2.4.22 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 3.3.2 20031005 (Debian 
prerelease)) #1 SMP Fri Oct 24 23:39:05 EDT 2003
BIOS-provided physical RAM map:
 BIOS-e820:  - 0009f800 (usable)
 BIOS-e820: 0009f800 - 000a (reserved)
 BIOS-e820: 000eb000 - 0010 (reserved)
 BIOS-e820: 0010 - 0800 (usable)
 BIOS-e820: fff8 - 0001 (reserved)
128MB LOWMEM available.
On node 0 totalpages: 32768
zone(0): 4096 pages.
zone(1): 28672 pages.
zone(2): 0 pages.
DMI not present.
Kernel command line: auto BOOT_IMAGE=Linux ro root=301 hdc=scsi
ide_setup: hdc=scsi
Local APIC disabled by BIOS -- reenabling.
Found and enabled local APIC!
Initializing CPU#0
Detected 350.802 MHz processor.
Console: colour VGA+ 80x25
Calibrating delay loop... 699.59 BogoMIPS
Memory: 125628k/131072k available (2138k kernel code, 5056k reserved, 569k data, 372k 
init, 0k highmem)
Dentry cache hash table entries: 16384 (order: 5, 131072 bytes)
Inode cache hash table entries: 8192 (order: 4, 65536 bytes)
Mount cache hash table entries: 512 (order: 0, 4096 bytes)
Buffer cache hash table entries: 8192 (order: 3, 32768 bytes)
Page-cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 5, 131072 bytes)
CPU: L1 I cache: 16K, L1 D cache: 16K
CPU: L2 cache: 512K
Intel machine check architecture supported.
Intel machine check reporting enabled on CPU#0.
CPU: After generic, caps: 0183fbff   
CPU: Common caps: 0183fbff   
Enabling fast FPU save and restore... done.
Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK.
POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
mtrr: v1.40 (20010327) Richard Gooch ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
mtrr: detected mtrr type: Intel
CPU: L1 I cache: 16K, L1 D cache: 16K
CPU: L2 cache: 512K
Intel machine check reporting enabled on CPU#0.
CPU: After generic, caps: 0183fbff   
CPU: Common caps: 0183fbff   
CPU0: Intel Pentium II (Deschutes) stepping 02
per-CPU timeslice cutoff: 1463.72 usecs.
SMP motherboard not detected.
enabled ExtINT on CPU#0
ESR value before enabling vector: 
ESR value after enabling vector: 
Using local APIC timer interrupts.
calibrating APIC timer ...
. CPU clock speed is 350.7948 MHz.
. host bus clock speed is 100.2268 MHz.
cpu: 0, clocks: 1002268, slice: 501134
CPU0
Waiting on wait_init_idle (map = 0x0)
All processors have done init_idle
PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfd9c2, last bus=1
PCI: Using configuration type 1
PCI: Probing PCI hardware
PCI: Probing PCI hardware (bus 00)
PCI: Using IRQ router PIIX [8086/7110] at 00:04.0
Limiting direct PCI/PCI transfers.
Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.4
Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039
Initializing RT netlink socket
Starting kswapd
VFS: Disk quotas vdquot_6.5.1
Journalled Block Device driver loaded
vga16fb: initializing
vga16fb: mapped to 0xc00a
Console: switching to colour frame buffer device 80x30
fb0: VGA16 VGA frame buffer device
pty: 256 Unix98 ptys configured
Serial driver version 5.05c (2001-07-08) with MANY_PORTS SHARE_IRQ SERIAL_PCI enabled
ttyS00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
Real Time Clock Driver v1.10e
Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M
FDC 0 is a National Semiconductor PC87306
RAMDISK driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 4096K size 1024 blocksize
loop: loaded (max 8 devices)
eepro100.c:v1.09j-t 9/29/99 Donald Becker http://www.scyld.com/network/eepro100.html
eepro100.c: $Revision: 1.36 $ 2000/11/17 Modified by Andrey V. Savochkin <[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]> and others
PCI: Found IRQ 10 for device 00:0e.0
eth0: Intel Corp. 82557/8/9 [Ethernet Pro 100], 00:02:B3:27:A2:15, IRQ 10.
  Board assembly 751767-003, Physical connectors present: RJ45
  Primary interface chip i82555 PHY #1.
Secondary interface chip i82555.
  General self-test: passed.
  Serial sub-system self-test: passed.
  Internal registers self-test: passed.
  ROM checksum self-test: passed (0x3258698e).
Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 7.00beta4-2.4
ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx
PIIX4: IDE controller at PCI slot 00:04.1
PIIX4: chipset revision 1
PIIX4: not 100% native mode: will pro

Re: A newbie's confusion about GPL (BS)

[Arnt Karlsen]

On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 07:47:43 -0800, 
Tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Basically in "X-vs.-Jew", anybody Jewish gets a pass from me for the 
> next couple of generations.  I was riding a train in Germany and I 
> couldn't help thinking how it would feel like bugs crawling up under
> my skin to think about how fucked in the head my parents and
> grandparents were.
> 
> I'm from the south and whenever I meet a 70 year old racist little old
> granny I just want to take an icepick to her head.

..Auschwitz is no excuse to let Jews wipe out Muslims in Palestine.
Nor for keeping quiet on any American "ancient story" in Somalia.

..genocide has no 25 year "time-out", except appearantly under 
Norwegian Law, it was the Norwegian Police that arrested Jews 
in Norway, and for some funny reason, none of these were ever 
tried for that war crime, only in some cases for treason and torture.
(http://home.online.no/~bbruland/ and any babelfish that groks 
Norwegian and German into your preferred lingo.)

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Re: Insidious Spam/swen/Garbage

[David Palmer.]

On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 17:41:12 +0100
David Jardine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sun, Oct 26, 2003 at 04:50:35AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > On Sun, 2003-10-26 at 04:37, Andre Kalus wrote:
> > > On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 23:33:30 +0100, Pigeon wrote:
> > > 
> > > > On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 10:28:26PM +0200, David Jardine wrote:
> > > >> On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 02:39:43AM +0100, Pigeon wrote:
> > > >> > On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 01:14:38AM +0200, David Jardine
> > > >wrote:> > > It is beyond my capability (but only slightly, I
> > > >feel, and it should> > > be very easy for lots of people here) to
> > > >produce a sort of> > > interactive fetchmail that reads the
> > > >headers of each message on the> > > server, presents them to you
> > > >and asks if you want to fetch the> > > message or delete it. 
> > > >This is what I would like to have.> > 
> > > >> > ...like pop3browser?
> > > >> 
> > > >> That looks useful - when I can get it working :( - and decently
> > > >small.
> > > > 
> > > > ...it's dead easy; what problem are you having?
> > > 
> > > It is very simple - you do not need any config. I just installed
> > > mutt(from unstable). Then I call:
> > > 
> > > mutt -f pop://[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > 
> > > where xxx is my customer number from GMX (you can use both
> > > e-Mail address and customer number as login but I guess E-mail
> > > won't work because it has an @ inside). pop.gmx.net is your
> > > providers pop server.
> > > 
> > > Then you are asked for your password and see the contents of your
> > > mailbox. Use arrow keys to move up and down, press D to delete a
> > > message. Q exits mutt, it asks you to delete the marked ("D")
> > > messages. Just press enter and you are done.
> > > 
> > > I do have a dial-up connection too, so this is my way to get rid
> > > of SWEN...
> > 
> > For a high-volume account, this seems *so* tedious.  fetchmail,
> > exim|postfix, SpamAssassin, and any one of the automated swen
> > zappers is much more efficient.
> 
> I'm sure you're right, Ron, but I don't have any high-volume 
> accounts and I'm grateful to Andre and pigeon for pointing out 
> to me what I'd missed.
> 
> One problem I had with it is that it gave the message lengths as 
> zero, which didn't aid swen-spotting.
> 
> Thanks to all you people I've now got enough solutions to leave 
> me in a state of complete confusion.  However, I still don't 
> understand (and I understand very little of these network 
> matters) why an interactive fetchmail thing doesn't seem to 
> exist.  Is it because it would clog access to the mailserver if 
> fetchmail users held connections open while they pondered?  Do 
> the servers close the connection after the briefest of periods 
> of inactivity?  Or what?
> > 
> -- 
> David Jardine
> 
The way I see it is that with all the separate componentry available
with Debian, you can configure for any eventuality according to the
individual need, whether that be for high volumn or otherwise. Standard
configs do not answer to that. That's why I'm here, it's a steep
learning curve at times, but that has its' profit factors also.
If it's any consolation, you're further along the road than I am.
I'm still figuring out the intricacies of sylpheed and evolution, but
I'm looking forward to the rest.
Regards,

David.


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Re: X11R6

[Pigeon]

On Sun, Oct 26, 2003 at 09:07:55PM +1300, Paul William wrote:
> On Sun, 2003-10-26 at 15:10, David R Hovland wrote:
> > How do you get xwindows to start in Debian?  I have reloaded it four
> > times thinking I needed to use a different disk. I downloaded all
> > seven. All I get at login is this:
> >  
> > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xserverrc: /usr/bin/X11/X: No such file or
> > directory.
> > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xserverrc: exec: /usr/bin/X11/X: cannot
> > execute: No such file or directory.
> >  
> > giving up.
> >  
> > xinit: Connection refused (errno 111): unable to connect to xserver
> > xinit: No such process (errno 3): Server error
> 
> run tasksel as root and select "desktop environment" and then (i think)
> click finish and then do whatever else it tells you to do.

For some reason this doesn't work... I tried it the other day... if
all you select in tasksel is 'desktop environment' you don't get an X
server installed. Huh?? (Though given that boot-floppies has one foot
in the grave it's probably not worth making a fuss over this.)

apt-get install xserver-xfree86 (as others have said) is the cure.

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Re: 2.6.0-test8 PCI (?) troubles

[Pigeon]

On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 10:56:57PM +0200, Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote:
> Hi all!
> 
> Lately, I have been desparately trying to get a second head with a 
> separate login on my computer, something that has included quite a few 
> approaches. Finally, I've upgraded to sid, and now I'm onto 
> 2.6.0-test8, and not only that, it's patched with the ruby patches. I 
> got the whole thing from Andreas Schuldei, who has done some great work 
> on this. Presumably, what I'm now seeing are not specifically ruby 
> problems, so I try to avoid bothering him (unless he wants to chime 
> in).
> 
> I've googled through the archives, and done the things recommended 
> there, like enabling VT, creating /sys, etc. I'm not including all the 
> details, since I don't know where to start, I guess for the sake of 
> brevity it is no use posting a lot of possibly irrelevant info.
> 
> Compile (using make-kpkg) seems to go fine, so does install. Re-run of 
> lilo has a couple of warnings, but nothing that has ever meant anything 
> before... :-) 
> 
> When I boot up, I get kernel messages rolling along, but stops with the 
> following line:
> PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xf0d40, last bus=1
> then, the LED on the floppy drive lights up and remain lit, and then it 
> just sits there. Nothing happens, I and have to push the reset button 
> to reboot. It doesn't tell me it's panicked either. 
> 
> I find the same line in my 2.4.22 dmesg. What follows after booting 
> 2.4.22 is this:
> PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xf0d40, last bus=1
> PCI: Using configuration type 1
> PCI: Probing PCI hardware
> PCI: Probing PCI hardware (bus 00)
> PCI: Using IRQ router VIA [1106/0686] at 00:04.0
> PCI: Disabling Via external APIC routing
> Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.4
> 
> Now, it seems like 2.6 does things in a different order, for example, 
> the framebuffer stuff seems to be loaded before the halt happens. 
> OTOH, since it looks as if it is looking through the PCI hardware with 
> 2.4.22 after this message, I'm guessing something goes wrong with PCI 
> with 2.6.0-test8 too... I could be very wrong here, but it is the only 
> clue I have... 
> 
> Any better clues...?

I have the same chipset. With 2.4, I find I have to turn the APIC off
in BIOS Setup, otherwise the boot hangs when it gets to dealing with
the APIC. I don't know if this applies to 2.6 (haven't tried 2.6 yet
because the driver for my scsi card is broken) but it might be worth a
shot.

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Problem with sed, Exec format error.

[Bojan Baros]

Hello Debs.

I have a problem with sed, which in turn creates problem with apt-get
and like that use it.  When I try to execute it from the command line, I
get "/bin/sed: Exec format error. Binary file not executable."

Then, I ran file sed and I got the following:
sed: ELF 64-bit MSB executable, SPARC V9, version 1 (SYSV), for
GNU/Linux 2.2.0, dynamically linked (uses shared libs),
stripped

I run Debian unstable, on Sparc SS 5 (85 mhz of raw power, yipee).

I tried to remove and reinstall sed, but no luck.

When running apt-get -u dist-upgrade, it fails with the following error:
/var/lib/dpkg/infoi/locales.config: line 1: /bin/sed: cannot execute
binary file", and the apt-get call overall fails.

I was wondering if anyone could give me a hand.  I think it might have
with the fact that it is a 64 bit, while everything else in the /bin is
32 bit.  I did not explicitly ask for any 64 bit installation with the
apt-get, so I am unsure where the problem is.

Thanks for your help.

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Re: Insidious Spam/swen/Garbage

[Monique Y. Herman]

On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 at 21:29 GMT, Wayne Topa penned:
> Monique Y. Herman([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
>> 
>> Of course, your password will then be in plain-text in a file.  If
>> you are the only person with root access, this probably isn't a big
>> deal until your box gets hacked, but this sort of thing always gives
>> me the willies.
> 
> You runs mutt as root?  That would give me the wilies!  I assumed that
> no one would try that!   

Did I imply that?

I meant to say, anyone with root access could view your password.  If
you are the only person with root access, this probably doesn't matter.

I don't run mutt as root, but how would that be any more dangerous than
running, say, cat or vi as root?

> 
> I, of course, meant the instructions as a suggeation for the users
> .muttrc.  If you run mutt as root I have no advice other then, don't.
> 
> So what do you do about your /etc/ppp/pap-secrets file?  It has the
> same permissions as the your root .muttrc? Get hacked and it's just as
> bad.

Well, I don't use dialup, so it's not a problem.  I assume pap-secrets
has your dialup password or something in it?  If so, and if you use a
unique password for dialup, then I would think the worst that could
happen is that they could use the dialup access that is legitemately
yours.  If your ISP bundles email and web hosting, that would be a
problem, too.  Having someone steal my bandwidth doesn't frighten me
nearly as much as having someone read or destroy my mail.

It's the age-old problem of security vs. convenience.  I remember using
a vpn client for work that insisted on putting its configuration file
(including password) in /etc, and furthermore installed it
world-readable by default.  Fortunately, it still ran after you
restricted its permissions ... Now, sure, I did restrict its
permissions, and iirc we actually had access to the source, so I could
have modified it to read the configuration from elsewhere ... but still,
the default configuration was just bad, bad, bad.

It would probably be more secure (assuming some kind of encryption) to
enter your password every time you want to check mail, but most of us
are willing to sacrifice some security to avoid having to type our
passwords all the time.  Even so, it's better to make a conscious choice
*after understanding the implications* than to just blindly sally forth.


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Re: Simple little basic config questions

[Pigeon]

On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 08:57:41PM -0400, Haines Brown wrote:
> In moving from RedHat to debian, I'm left with some simple little
> basic configuration questions. They all relate to a situation in which
> I operate at this point from console. 
> 
> 1. Where do I set the global bash prompt format? I changed PS1= in 
>/etc/profile, but that only affects user, not root.

~/.bash_profile for users
/root/.profile for root

> 2. I had placed the command "setterm -blank 0" in RedHat's
>/etc/rc.d/rc.local to block screen blanking while running in
>console. Debian does not use that file. What is its equivalent?

Debian uses a directory-full of separate scripts - /etc/init.d - which
are called through symlinks in /etc/rc*. You set one up yourself:

# cat > /etc/init.d/noblank
#!/bin/sh
/usr/bin/setterm -blank 0 && echo 'Console blanking disabled'
^D
# chmod a+x /etc/init.d/noblank
# ln -s /etc/init.d/noblank /etc/rcS.d/S99noblank

> 3. My usual practice is to avoid xdm and boot to a text login
>prompt. To do this, in rc2.d I belive I edited the symlink to the
>xdm program, renaming "S99xdm ->..." to "K99xdm ->...". But in
>debian I get a beep when I try. Am I imagining I once edited the
>name of a symlink? Can't one do it in debian?

Sure... dunno about this "beep", because I use the command line for
stuff like this...

# cd /etc/rc2.d
# mv S99xdm K99xdm

...if that doesn't work, it'll still give you more informative error
messages than a "beep".

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Re: why is debian the only distribution that won't let me run X?

[Wilko Fokken]

On Sun, Oct 26, 2003 at 12:23:45PM +0100, Eduard Bloch wrote:
> Moin Wilko!
> Wilko Fokken schrieb am Sunday, den 26. October 2003:
> 
> ...
> Ehm, you realize that your case is somehow constructed? ET4000 is about
> 10 years old, it is at least 3-4 mainstream generations far away from
> the current mainstream cards. Further, you don't need X on a mail
> gateway.
> ...
> What is "SVGA-compatible" from driver's point of view? If your card is
> not supported by any of the SVGATextMode drivers, the only choice you
> have is VESA framebuffer. Which, again, requires a VESA2.0 compliant
> video card and I not sure whether ET4000 was a such one.
> 
> MfG,
> Eduard.
> 

Mooi'n dag ok, Eduard,  

thanks for your hints, but (not to feed on any cheese of honour) my card
really is an ET4000_W32 and it works pretty sharp in "1024x768" mode; my
text mode "100x37x9_SVGA" works brilliant. (Perfect for 'mutt' with
"syntax on" in '/etc/vim/vimrc')

Of course, changing graphical contents is a bit slow, but I would't do
without my higher resolution text mode.

So I'd appreciate any information about identifying PCI-based graphic
cards being either SVGA-compatible or VESA2.0 compliant.

(hope not being too badly OT)


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Re: rm -rf .* alternatives (was: Re: I broke gnome2 *snff*)

[Jason Lunz]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
> Other tips?

use zsh:

[orr](0) % zsh
[orr](0) % touch .foo
[orr](0) % echo .*
.foo
[orr](0) % bash
bash-2.05b$ echo .*
. .. .foo

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Re: Simple little basic config questions

[Kent West]

Haines Brown wrote:

  
Haines Brown([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:

  
  
  
  

  prompt and setterm) can go in either place. User has a .bashrc and
.bash_profile (there's no .profile), and the configuration must go
into the latter. It does not work for me if put into .bashrc.
  

Do you have 

source .bashrc

As the last line of your .bash_profile? That might help.

  
  
No, the default (debian3.0r.1) is to comment that in .bash_profile: 

  # if [ -f ~/.bashrc]; then 
  #   source ~./bashrc
  # fi

I don't see why this is commented, for it seems to disable
~/.bashrc. Is that so? If so, why it it disabled by default?  
  

Sometimes ~/.bashrc is read on login; sometimes ~/.bash_profile is
read. I never can remember when one is and the other isn't. Leaving
these lines doesn't "disable ~/.bashrc"; it just prevents the reading
of that file when ~/.bash_profile is read. I just uncomment the three
lines above and let Debian sort it out.


  
Note, just in case you didn't know this.  After making changes to
these files it is not necessary to exit and relogin. Just enter
. .bash_profile

  
  
I don't understand. "Enter" what into ~/.bash_profile? What does your
elipsis here refer to? 
  


It's not an ellipsis. The first dot is short-hand for "source", roughly
meaning "run the .bash_profile 'script'". You could alternatively enter
this same command as "source .bash_profile".


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Re: Simple little basic config questions

[Haines Brown]

 
> Which is generated by the "adduser" routine by copying the skeleton
> files from /etc/skel. You can add other files in this directory if
> you want them to be added to new users' home directories.

Interesting--the plot thickens! So, if one wants to set a global
configuration for bash, such as a custom prompt or setterm= then the
way to do it is to edit the files in /etc/skel. For example, I could
uncomment in /etc/skel/bash_profile the section that has "source
~./bashrc" and then in the /etc/skel/bashrc file enter my custom value
for PS1= or commands such as setterm = ... 

All this is entirely new to me ;-).

Haines  


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Re: Insidious Spam/swen/Garbage

[Monique Y. Herman]

On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 at 21:41 GMT, Bijan Soleymani penned:
> "Monique Y. Herman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
>> On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 at 14:11 GMT, Wayne Topa penned:
>>> 
>>> If you add set pop_host=pop.gmx.net, set pop_user=xxx and set
>>> pop_pass=  to your .muttrc then   mutt -f pop://  will connect
>>> without typeing so much.  :-)
>>> 
>>> This works in version 1.5.4-1 (testing) as well
>>> 
>>> Isn't linux neat!!
>>
>> Of course, your password will then be in plain-text in a file.  If
>> you are the only person with root access, this probably isn't a big
>> deal until your box gets hacked, but this sort of thing always gives
>> me the willies.
> 
> Hmmm... If your box gets cracked, the cracking party can simply run a
> keylogger and watch you as you type your passwords...
> 
> Bijan

Sure.  Once your box is cracked, you're pretty much SOL.  The specifics
are academic.


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Re: Simple little basic config questions

[Kent West]

Haines Brown wrote:

 

Which is generated by the "adduser" routine by copying the skeleton
files from /etc/skel. You can add other files in this directory if
you want them to be added to new users' home directories.
   

Interesting--the plot thickens! So, if one wants to set a global
configuration for bash, such as a custom prompt or setterm= then the
way to do it is to edit the files in /etc/skel. For example, I could
uncomment in /etc/skel/bash_profile the section that has "source
~./bashrc" and then in the /etc/skel/bashrc file enter my custom value
for PS1= or commands such as setterm = ... 

All this is entirely new to me ;-).

Haines  
 

But only for new users. This won't affect existing users, as these files 
are copied into the users' home directories when the user is created 
using "adduser".

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Re: Searching for an editor...

[Alan Shutko]

Robert Storey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> To be more specific, Xemacs has more beautiful fonts and lets you
> change default font size.

I don't see why you can't change the default font size in
Emacs... you can change the default font, and with it the size.  Is
XEmacs using fontconfig these days?  If not, the fonts are coming
from the same place.  XEmacs does seem to default to displaying more
things in proportional fonts than Emacs does, though I'm not sure
that's a good thing.

> But Emacs is also good, and of course has the advantage of working
> on the command line as well as in X.

Well, so can XEmacs.

> There's no reason why you can't install both, since the commands are
> almost identical.

Well... that depends on how well you know either.  If someone is just
getting into XEmacs, they'll probably be able to switch back and
forth pretty easily, but I tried and the differences drove me crazy.

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Re: Debian bug-squashing party, Sunday November 9th 2003, Ecublens, Switzerland

[Arnt Karlsen]

On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 09:22:45 +1300, 
Paul William <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> On Mon, 2003-10-27 at 03:47, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> > On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 22:24:02 +1300, 
> > Paul William <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > 
> > > what a kool idea. Pity I live on the other side of the world (New
> > > Zealand). Enjoy the party.
> > 
> > ..pity?  You swim?  ;-)
> 
> Not in the weather we have been having recently.

..sissy.  ;-)   That leaves partying online.  ;-)


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Re: how can I set up a "testing" machine to be able to compile Gnome apps

[stan]

On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 02:55:11PM -0400, Mark Roach wrote:
> On Wed, 2003-10-22 at 13:47, stan wrote:
> > I'm going to build a machine to use for some video camera work. I will
> > probably be using the gspy package. 
> > 
> > But, I will most likely need to make a few changes to that application for
> > my needs. Iv'e installed the deb on a machine, and it works great. But when
> > I grabed the source tarball and tried to compile it, I got things like:
> > 
> > 
> > ing for gnomeConf.sh file in /usr/local/lib... not found
> > configure: error: Could not find the gnomeConf.sh file that is generated by
> > gnome-libs install
> > 
> > 
> > What steps do I need to take to be able to compile Gnome application
> > packages from source on Debian?
> 
> try apt-get build-dep gspy
> 
Ahm I see that downloads all the requisite source packages.

Thansk.

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Re: Re: What is the root-n in my root??

[Marco Bagni]

Hi Kev,

I am somehow embarrased for what I found in the investigation phase:

I DELETED the file, rebooted the laptop and... the file did not appare
anymore!
I went to my other laptop and the phenomenon continued as described. I
noticed that it seems related to the PPP daemon.
Another particular that I noted is the timestamp. I noticed that at boot
time I find the following directories with a different timestamp but the
time seems subsequent to the begin of the startup:
/etc
/dev
/root
/var
/tmp
while root-n  seems to have been touched/created just BEFORE THE END OF
THE SHUTDOWN PROCESS.
Few days ago I downloaded the kernel 2.4.22 and applied the patch ac4.
Since this laptop has a winmodem, today I recompiled (not without some
problems) the lt_modem. Magically, after having recompiled the lt_modem
and installed in the /etc/modules.conf, the file root-n stopped to
appear and the booting process did not show up the message regarding
CSLIP and PPP modules loading that seemed to be related with the file.
I have dumped the /proc/kcore and started to scan it looking for the
string root-n and, although the file root-n had not been created I found
the string "root-n.dat"
I was not able to find who belongs this tile to, but I can see that it
appears between some libraries and after samba
this is part of the dump of the content of the core (produced with
midnight commander)
03A84D40 00 00 00 00 x 00 00 00 00 x 00 00 00 00 x 40 49 CE D2 x 70 52 
F1 D3 x 70 52 F1 D3 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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1E D1 x 68 DD 1E D1 ØÑ.ÑX.IÒ`×.ÑhIÎÒhÝ.ÑhÝ.Ñ
03A84D70 70 DD 1E D1 x 70 DD 1E D1 x 00 00 00 00 x 9C DD 1E D1 x 07 00 
00 00 x 31 13 9F A8 pÝ.ÑpÝ.Ñ.Ý.Ñ1..¨
03A84D88 00 00 00 00 x 00 00 00 00 x 00 30 D7 D3 x 00 00 00 00 x 00 00 
00 00 x 6C 6D 68 6F .0×Ólmho
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00 00 x 00 00 00 00 sts.
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FA D0 x A0 0A E4 D2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] .äÒ
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00 00 x 00 00 00 00 samba...

here you can see samba and previously lmhosts

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00 00 x 00 00 00 00 

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00 00 x 00 00 00 00 .Þ.Ñ..(Ô
03A84E90 00 30 D7 D3 x 08 00 00 00 x 00 00 00 00 x 72 6F 6F 74 x 2D 6E
00 64 x 61 74 00 00 .0×Óroot-n.dat..
here you can see the suspicious name ^^

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00 00 x 00 00 00 00 
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00 00 x 73 64 63 00 .0×Ósdc.
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03A84F50 C0 51 F7 D3 x C0 51 F7 D3 x 58 43 9D D3 x 38 2F 2D D1 x E0 D0
1E D1 x 00 71 14 D1 ÀQ÷ÓÀQ÷ÓXC.Ó8/-ÑàÐ.Ñ.q.Ñ
03A84F68 68 DF 1E D1 x 68 DF 1E D1 x 50 D5 FA D0 x 50 D5 FA D0 x 00 00
00 00 x 9C DF 1E D1 hß.Ñhß.ÑPÕúÐPÕúÐ.ß.Ñ
03A84F80 0B 00 00 00 x EA 42 FE 0E x 00 00 00 00 x 00 00 00 00 x 00 30
D7 D3 x 00 00 00 00 êBþ..0×Ó
03A84F98 00 00 00 00 x 6C 69 62 61 x 63 6C 2E 73 x 6F 2E 31 00 x 00 00
00 00 x 00 00 00 00 libacl.so.1.
and here there is a library name ^^^

My investigation ends here. Marginally I have found only another guy, a
German user, that reported the same problem
(http://article.

Re: Setting hostname with DHCP

[Bob Proulx]

Michael Ash wrote:
> The other response from the list was:
> > The dhclient script is broken; it doesn't do the hostname
> > properly.  It is probably fixable, but that script is a
> > big mess.
>
> Should I move to a different DHCP-client program?
> 
> Can you recommend one?  Is there a program called "pump"?

Your message indicated that you were using dhcp-client.  Let me
recommend dhcp3-client instead.

  apt-get install dhcp3-client

Then when you are satisified with your configuration you can clean up
the old one.

  dpkg --purge dhcp-client

  http://www.isc.org/products/DHCP/

I don't know why the maintainer split the package for version three.
Does anyone know?  It is unfortunate.  I would like to see dhcp-client
converted to dhcp2-client for those people that require the older one
and dhcp be a meta package which always depends upon the newer
version, similar to 'gcc' and other packages.

[Drift: I have not checked.  Which dhcp client is the new d-i
installing by default?  I sure hope it is dhcp v3 and not dhcp v2!]

Bob


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Re: rm -rf .* alternatives (was: Re: I broke gnome2 *snff*)

[David Jardine]

On Sun, Oct 26, 2003 at 10:12:18AM -0500, Bijan Soleymani wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 26, 2003 at 02:10:01PM +, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> > on Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 03:28:36PM +0100, Colin Watson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > > On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 11:36:25PM +0930, David Purton wrote:
> > 
> > > > Sadly no, I neglected to say that I could not get things to work even
> > > > using a test account and doing an rm -rf .* in $HOME.
> > > 
> > > Just in case other people try this, 'rm -rf .*' is VERY DANGEROUS. '.*'
> > > expands to include '.' and '..', and if you happen to have privileges to
> > > write to the parent directory then you'll end up removing all
> > > directories *next* to your current directory as well!
> > 
> > So what do folks do?
> > 
> > rm -rf .?*  # will expand to include ..
> > 
> > rm -rf .[^.]*   # seems right.
> > 
> > find . -depth -print0 | xargs rm  # Usually works.
> > 
> > If you're really paranoid:
> > 
> > chown -r peon .
> > su -c 'rm -rf .' peon
> > 
> > ...which first changes ownership to a nonprivileged user, then runs the
> > rm as that user.  Keeps you from mucking things up in a rootly way.
> > 
> > Personally I tend to walk through trees very carefully when doing
> > deletes.
> > 
> > 
> > Other tips?
> 
> You could always do:
> rm -r `ls -A`
> 
> ls -A lists all files except "." and "..". From the ls manpage:
> 
> "-A, --almost-all
> do not list implied . and .."
> 
> Not to be confused with "ls -a" which does list "." and "..".

Then wouldn't 

rm -r `ls`

do the trick?

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Re: Insidious Spam/swen/Garbage

[Bijan Soleymani]

"Monique Y. Herman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 at 14:11 GMT, Wayne Topa penned:
>> 
>> If you add set pop_host=pop.gmx.net, set pop_user=xxx and set
>> pop_pass=  to your .muttrc then   mutt -f pop://  will connect
>> without typeing so much.  :-)
>> 
>> This works in version 1.5.4-1 (testing) as well
>> 
>> Isn't linux neat!!
>
> Of course, your password will then be in plain-text in a file.  If you
> are the only person with root access, this probably isn't a big deal
> until your box gets hacked, but this sort of thing always gives me the
> willies.

Hmmm... If your box gets cracked, the cracking party can simply run a
keylogger and watch you as you type your passwords...

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unavailable apt sources

[glenn]

Hi All
Apt is holding back quite a few packages from upgrade, when I look into
these I find that depedencies are broken due to the package being
'UNAVAILABLE'. I figured perhaps the specific mirror I've been using
just didn't have the package, so now I use a few mirrors, but I still
have the same problem.
Here's an example. I can't upgrade AMSN as it is dependent on tcltls,
which is unavailable.

Is there somewhere I can point my sources list to find these unavailable
packages?
Thanks
Glenn 


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Re: Simple little basic config questions

[Wilko Fokken]

On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 08:57:41PM -0400, Haines Brown wrote:
>
> ...
>
> 3. My usual practice is to avoid xdm and boot to a text login
>prompt. To do this, in rc2.d I belive I edited the symlink to the
>xdm program, renaming "S99xdm ->..." to "K99xdm ->...". But in
>debian I get a beep when I try. Am I imagining I once edited the
>name of a symlink? Can't one do it in debian?
> 
> Haines Brown  
> 

Same with me,

if you'd like some additional first aid to temporarily remove / restore
any command in '/etc/init.d/' (including all related softlinks), you
might try my bash script, I named '/usr/local/bash/init.d':


###

#!/bin/sh
# \wwf 9.3.02

USE ()  {
  echo
  echo ""
  echo "Save+Remove // Restore  Start_Stop Files in /etc/init.d/"
  echo ""
  setterm -bold on
  echo 'including related Links in   /etc/rc?.d/'
  setterm -bold off
  echo
  echo
  echo "usage:"
  echo
  echo "$0  [{-s|-r}] (-s = default)"
  echo ""
  echo '( put Filename Wildcards in Double-Quotes:   "*",  "?" )'
  echo
  echo
  echo 'Options:'
  echo ''
  echo '-s = (S)avefiles to   /etc/init.d/SAVE/.tar.gz'
  echo '-r = (R)estore files from /etc/init.d/SAVE/.tar.gz'
  echo
  echo '(-s:  Files are MOVED from Directories to Archive)'
  echo '(-r:  Files are MOVED from Archive to Directories)'
  echo
  echo
}


Save () {
  test -d /etc/init.d/SAVE || mkdir /etc/init.d/SAVE

  echo "Save+Deinstall init.d Files to /etc/init.d/SAVE/.tar.gz"
  echo "="
  cd /etc/init.d
  for FILE in [EMAIL PROTECTED]; do
echo

#   Skip bad Params
if [ ! -f ${FILE} ]; then
  echo "/etc/init.d/${FILE}:  NO FILE -- skipping Param"
  echo "--"
  echo
  continue  ## comment this line: save links only
#   ## when /etc/init.d/ is missing
fi

if [ -f SAVE/${FILE}.tar.gz ]; then
  echo "Dest_Archive already exists:"
  echo "NO REwriting to /etc/SAVE/${FILE}.tar.gz -- skipping Param"
  echo "--"
  echo
  continue
fi

#   Begin of Job
echo -n "Save+Deinstall /etc/init.d/${FILE} ? "; read answ
case "$answ" in
  y*|Y*|j*|J*)  echo "Answer = ${answ}";;   # Save Files
  *  )  echo "Answer = ${answ}:NO Action -- skipping Param"
echo
continue
esac

echo
echo Saving spec''d Files to /etc/init.d/SAVE/${FILE}.tar.gz
echo "-"
find /etc/rc* /etc/init.d -name "*${FILE}" | \
tar -cvzf /etc/init.d/SAVE/${FILE}.tar.gz -PT -
echo
echo "Comparing Tar Archive to orig. Source Files"
echo "---"
tar -dvzf /etc/init.d/SAVE/${FILE}.tar.gz

if [ `echo $?` = 0 ]; then
  echo
  echo "=="
  echo "All Files saved OK"
  echo "=="
  echo
  echo -n "Remove saved Source Files now ? "; read answ
  case "$answ" in
y*|Y*|j*|J*) echo "Answer = ${answ}";;  # Remove Files
*  ) echo "Answer = ${answ}: Files NOT removed"
iecho
 continue
  esac
  echo
  echo "Removing saved Files from /etc/rc*/   /etc/init.a/"
  find /etc/rc* /etc/init.d -name "*${FILE}" -exec rm {} \;
else
  echo
  echo "ERROR, BAD Match!!"
  echo "=="
  echo "/etc/init.d/SAVE/${FILE}.tar.gz differs to"
  echo "Source Files in /etc/rc*/, /etc/init.d/"
  echo "NO File removed"
  echo
fi
  done
}


Restore ()  {
  echo "Reinstall Files from /etc/init.d/SAVE/.tar.gz"
  echo "---"
  cd /etc/init.d/SAVE/
  for FILE in [EMAIL PROTECTED]; do
echo
ARCHIV=""
[ -f ${FILE} ] && ARCHIV=${FILE}
[ -f ${FILE}.tar.gz ] && ARCHIV=${FILE}.tar.gz
##  echo "File = " ${FILE} "Archive = " ${ARCHIV}; read answ

if [ -z ${ARCHIV} ]; then
  echo "NO matching Archive: " ${FILE} "-- skipping Param"
  echo
  continue
fi

echo -n "Reinstall ${ARCHIV} ? "; read answ

case "$answ" in
  y*|Y*|j*|J*) ;;   # Answer = 'yes', start Job
  *  ) echo "Answer = ${answ}: NO Action taken!!";
   echo
   continue;;
esac

echo "Reinstalling Archive to /etc/rc*, /etc/init.d/"
tar -xvkzf ${ARCHIV} -P

echo -n "Remove" ${ARCHIV} "now ? "; read answ
case "$answ" in
  y*|Y*|j*|J*) echo "Answer = $

hi

[michael stephens]

Title: Message



I have a satellite 
pro 420cds and I do not know the password to boot I baught it used. can you 
help. sandra

Re: Debian bug-squashing party, Sunday November 9th 2003, Ecublens, Switzerland

[Arnt Karlsen]

On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 22:24:02 +1300, 
Paul William <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> what a kool idea. Pity I live on the other side of the world (New
> Zealand). Enjoy the party.

..pity?  You swim?  ;-)

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Re: What do I need to to be abe to buld Gnome apps from source?

[Bijan Soleymani]

stan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I've got a "testing" machine that I'm setting up for work, and I'm probably
> going to need to make some mods to one of the apps I plan on using "gspy".
>
> It's a Gnome app, and I'm having troubel building it.  here's how it's
> failing:
>
> checking for gnomeConf.sh file in /usr/local/lib... not found
> configure: error: Could not find the gnomeConf.sh file that is generated by
> gnome-libs install
>
> Thats when I run autogen.sh.
>
> What do I need to do to be able to build Gnome apps on this machine?

Well it seems that you're missing a file called gnomeConf.sh a quick
search at:
http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages
http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=gnomeconf.sh&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=testing&arch=i386

reveals that this file is in the package libgnome-dev:
http://packages.debian.org/testing/libdevel/libgnome-dev.html

Try installing that and see if it helps. If anything else breaks
just post a followup...

Bijan
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Re: Setting Up Ogle - No /dev/dvd - THANKS

[Thomas H. George]

On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 08:36:31PM +0100, Rus Foster wrote:
> On Sat, 25 Oct 2003, Thomas H. George wrote:
> 
> > I used apt-get to install ogle and hoped the default oglerc would work
> > without editing.  The call to ogle aborted with a message that it could
> > not find /dev/dvd.  There is no entry for dvd in /dev and MAKEDEV
> > doesn't know how to make one.  The dvd-rom drive is the master on ide2
> > and a cd-rw drive is the slave on ide2 so ls /proc/ide shows hda hdb hdc
> > hdd.  I can play an audio cd in the dvd-rom drive and mount a data cd.
> 
> Hi,
> You can just do ln -s /dev/hdc /dev/dvd
> 
> Rgds
> 
> Rus

Thanks.  Lovely simple solution.

Rgds

Tom
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Re: Looking for Squid How-To

[john]

try google 'debian squid howto'



- Original Message - 
From: "Trey Sizemore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 7:43 AM
Subject: Looking for Squid How-To




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Re: rm -rf .* alternatives

[Kirk Strauser]

At 2003-10-26T18:46:05Z, David Jardine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Then wouldn't 
>
> rm -r `ls`
>
> do the trick?

No; it wouldn't list files starting with '.'.  That whole line of
experimentation also fails on any filename with a space in it.
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Re: Insidious Spam/swen/Garbage

[Ron Johnson]

On Sun, 2003-10-26 at 13:31, Monique Y. Herman wrote:
> On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 at 14:11 GMT, Wayne Topa penned:
> > 
> > If you add set pop_host=pop.gmx.net, set pop_user=xxx and set
> > pop_pass=  to your .muttrc then   mutt -f pop://  will connect
> > without typeing so much.  :-)
> > 
> > This works in version 1.5.4-1 (testing) as well
> > 
> > Isn't linux neat!!
> 
> Of course, your password will then be in plain-text in a file.  If you
> are the only person with root access, this probably isn't a big deal
> until your box gets hacked, but this sort of thing always gives me the
> willies.

But even for non-root users of the same system, all they'd have 
to do is do 'cat ~/.muttrc', unless .muttrc is only owner-
readable (like .fetchmailrc).

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Re: A newbie's confusion about GPL (BS)

[Arnt Karlsen]

On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 09:58:10 -0800, 
Tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> On Sun, Oct 26, 2003 at 06:52:23PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> > On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 07:47:43 -0800, 
> > Tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > 
> > > Basically in "X-vs.-Jew", anybody Jewish gets a pass from me for
> > > the next couple of generations.  I was riding a train in Germany
> > > and I couldn't help thinking how it would feel like bugs crawling
> > > up under my skin to think about how fucked in the head my parents
> > > and grandparents were.
> > > 
> > > I'm from the south and whenever I meet a 70 year old racist little
> > > old granny I just want to take an icepick to her head.
> > 
> > ..Auschwitz is no excuse to let Jews wipe out Muslims in Palestine.
> > Nor for keeping quiet on any American "ancient story" in Somalia.
> 
> It's awfully conscience-clearing to be able to associate your former 
> victims with genocide isn't it?  "Why, look at them, they're just as 
> bad!" 

..yes, and it _can_ be argued "defeating Hitler was a mistake", he
_would_ have prevented Bush from letting "the Jew" Sharon commit
genoside in Jenin, "by gassing all of the Jews, the war criminals too".

..still _no_ excuse to commit the war crime of _allowing_ war crime.

> It's called wish-fullfillment.
 
..in our case, whenever you start by reporting that "PsysOp" 
storyteller you met on that plane to, was it Cali?

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Re: Debian bug-squashing party, Sunday November 9th 2003, Ecublens, Switzerland

[Monique Y. Herman]

On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 at 09:24 GMT, Paul William penned:
> what a kool idea. Pity I live on the other side of the world (New
> Zealand). Enjoy the party.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Paul
> 

I was thinking the same.  Actually, I'm not sure I'm qualified to be a
huge help in such a party, but it's an awesome concept.


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Re: rm -rf .* alternatives

[Kirk Strauser]

At 2003-10-26T15:12:18Z, Bijan Soleymani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> You could always do:
> rm -r `ls -A`

If you have good backups, consider the ramifications of:

   $ touch 'a .. b'
   $ rm -r `ls -A`

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Re: WinTV driver docs?

[stan]

On Sun, Oct 26, 2003 at 08:53:20PM +0100, Albert Dengg wrote:
> have you tried accessing the device?
> the dmesg seems ok
> it looks like for some reason modprobe trys to load tuner.o twice...
> 
I changed /etc/modules.conf so that the post-install did not try to load
the tuner module, since the bttv driver does that on it's own now.

All is well.

Thanks.

Any idea how to set the driver to use the composite video input, rather
thna the tuner?

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Re: What would happen to Challenge/Response if ...

[Kirk Strauser]

At 2003-10-25T17:07:36Z, Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Gah, I didn't think of that.  So I've still eaten a stupid amount of
> traffic this week.  Does anyone have any neat scripts for automaticaly
> blacklisting Swen-sending ips for a period of time with Postfix?

This may or may not be overkill, depending on how many hosts you want to
protect:

http://subwiki.honeypot.net/cgi-bin/view/Freebsd/NewTrino
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Log watching program for central loghost

[Alex]

I've been trying to find a nice log watcher for a syslog-ng central
loghost. Those I've found, ie. logwatcher, was more suited for looking
through local logfiles. But when running a syslog-ng which puts
everything in /var/log/HOSTS/MACHINE/YEAR/MONTH/DATE/ this isn't very
nice (I may have missed some functioning that does this, if that's the
case please give me a hint).

Any suggestion on log watching programs are welcome.

thanks,
Alex


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Re: rm -rf .* alternatives

[Bijan Soleymani]

On Sun, Oct 26, 2003 at 01:29:44PM -0600, Kirk Strauser wrote:
> At 2003-10-26T15:12:18Z, Bijan Soleymani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > You could always do:
> > rm -r `ls -A`
> 
> If you have good backups, consider the ramifications of:
> 
>$ touch 'a .. b'
>$ rm -r `ls -A`

Oops... My bad...

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Re: Debian bug-squashing party, Sunday November 9th 2003, Ecublens, Switzerland

[Paul William]

On Mon, 2003-10-27 at 11:28, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 09:22:45 +1300, 
> Paul William <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> > On Mon, 2003-10-27 at 03:47, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> > > On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 22:24:02 +1300, 
> > > Paul William <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > 
> > > > what a kool idea. Pity I live on the other side of the world (New
> > > > Zealand). Enjoy the party.
> > > 
> > > ..pity?  You swim?  ;-)
> > 
> > Not in the weather we have been having recently.
> 
> ..sissy.  ;-)   

At least I can swim (or sail) in the ocean if want too ;-)

> That leaves partying online.  ;-)

not a bad idea. And since you are paying I will send my my pizza hut
(http://www.pizzahut.co.nz/) and V (http://v.co.nz) bill to you ;-)

> 
> 
> -- 
> ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;-)
> ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry...
>   Scenarios always come in sets of three: 
>   best case, worst case, and just in case.
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Re: Looking for Squid How-To

[Monique Y. Herman]

On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 at 20:43 GMT, Trey Sizemore penned:
> Thanks --=20 Cheers, Trey ---
> 
> "There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly
> what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly
> disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and
> inexplicable.
> 
> There is another which states that this has already happened."
> 

If you're going to go around quoting Douglas Adams, the least you could
do for the poor corpse is attribute his words.


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Re: A newbie's confusion about GPL (BS)

[Tom]

On Sun, Oct 26, 2003 at 10:05:46PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> ..in our case, whenever you start by reporting that "PsysOp" 
> storyteller you met on that plane to, was it Cali?

None of this is secret

http://inquirer.philly.com/packages/somalia/nov16/rang16.asp :

...18 Americans were dead and 73 were wounded...
...The Somalian toll was far worse. Reliable witnesses in the U.S. 
military and in Mogadishu now place the count at nearly 500 dead - scores more 
than was estimated at the time - among more than a thousand casualties. 
Many were women and children

It's wierd what trivialities people focus on and bitch and bitch 
endlessly when there is a wealth of nastiness that slips out in the news 
but doesn't hold your attention...

There were news stories out in 1991 estimating the # of Iraqi deaths 
(approx 150,000).  Last I heard Iraq 2 was about 35,000 w/ 5,000 
civilian deaths.  No wonder they're pissed off!  But hey, my great-great 
granddaddy got his ass kicked by the U.S.A. so whatcha gonna do.


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Re: WinTV driver docs?

[Albert Dengg]

have you tried accessing the device?
the dmesg seems ok
it looks like for some reason modprobe trys to load tuner.o twice...

Albert

On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 11:03:46 -0500
stan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
...
> And then I run into troubles :-(
> 
> cogenvs:~# modprobe bttv
> Using /lib/modules/2.4.22/kernel/drivers/media/video/tuner.o
> insmod: a module named tuner already exists
> /lib/modules/2.4.22/kernel/drivers/media/video/bttv.o: post-install
> bttv failed/lib/modules/2.4.22/kernel/drivers/media/video/bttv.o:
> insmod bttv failed cogenvs:~# exit
> 
> Script done on Sun Oct 26 10:43:48 2003
> 
> dmesg after this:
> 
> apm: BIOS version 1.2 Flags 0x03 (Driver version 1.16)
> i2c-core.o: i2c core module
> i2c-algo-bit.o: i2c bit algorithm module
> bttv: driver version 0.7.107 loaded
> bttv: using 4 buffers with 2080k (8320k total) for capture
> bttv: Host bridge is Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX Host
> bridge bttv: Host bridge needs ETBF enabled.
> bttv: Bt8xx card found (0).
> PCI: Found IRQ 9 for device 00:0d.0
> PCI: Sharing IRQ 9 with 00:0d.1
> bttv0: Bt878 (rev 2) at 00:0d.0, irq: 9, latency: 64, mmio: 0xfeddf000
> bttv0: detected: Hauppauge WinTV [card=10], PCI subsystem ID is
> 0070:13eb bttv0: using: BT878(Hauppauge (bt878))
> [card=10,autodetected] bttv0: enabling ETBF (430FX/VP3 compatibilty)
> bttv0: Hauppauge/Voodoo msp34xx: reset line init [5]
> i2c-core.o: adapter bt848 #0 registered as adapter 0.
> bttv0: Hauppauge eeprom: model=61001, tuner=Philips FI1236 MK2 (2),
> radio=no
> bttv0: using tuner=2
> bttv0: i2c: checking for MSP34xx @ 0x80... not found
> bttv0: i2c: checking for TDA9875 @ 0xb0... not found
> bttv0: i2c: checking for TDA7432 @ 0x8a... not found
> tvaudio: TV audio decoder + audio/video mux driver
> tvaudio: known chips:
> tda9840,tda9873h,tda9874h/a,tda9850,tda9855,tea6300,tea642
> 0,tda8425,pic16c54 (PV951),ta8874z
> i2c-core.o: driver generic i2c audio driver registered.
> i2c-core.o: driver i2c TV tuner driver registered.
> tuner: chip found @ 0xc2
> tuner: type set to 2 (Philips NTSC (FI1236,FM1236 and compatibles))
> i2c-core.o: client [Philips NTSC (FI1236,FM1236 and] registered to
> adapter[bt84
> 8 #0](pos. 0).
> bttv0: PLL: 28636363 => 35468950 .. ok
> bttv0: registered device video0
> bttv0: registered device vbi0
> 
> And an lsmod:
> 
> Module  Size  Used byNot tainted
> tuner  10888   1 (autoclean)
> tvaudio14408   0 (autoclean) (unused)
> bttv   97376   0 (unused)
> i2c-algo-bit7560   1 [bttv]
> i2c-core   13892   0 [tuner tvaudio bttv i2c-algo-bit]
> apm10600   0 (autoclean)
> soundcore   4292   0 (autoclean) [bttv]
> ide-scsi   10448   0
> agpgart36608   0 (unused)
> parport_pc 13732   1 (autoclean)
> lp  6656   0 (autoclean)
> parport16096   1 (autoclean) [parport_pc lp]
> keybdev 2116   0 (unused)
> usbkbd  3676   0 (unused)
> input   3744   0 [keybdev usbkbd]
> usb-uhci   24592   0 (unused)
> usbcore65228   0 [usbkbd usb-uhci]
> 
> What am I doing wrong?
> 
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> 
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Re: Migrated to debian; aliases stopped working

[Haines Brown]

> BTW I use exim and exim.conf contains the following lines about aliases
> 
> # This director handles aliasing using a traditional /etc/aliases file.
> # If any of your aliases expand to pipes or files, you will need to set
> # up a user and a group for these deliveries to run under. You can do
> # this by uncommenting the "user" option below (changing the user name
> # as appropriate) and adding a "group" option if necessary.
> 
> system_aliases:
> driver = aliasfile
> file_transport = address_file
> pipe_transport = address_pipe
> file = /etc/aliases
> search_type = lsearch
> # user = list
> # Uncomment the above line if you are running smartlist
> 
> Don't know if it's similar for sendmail or postfix.

In RedHat/sendmail, the syntax is a little different. Here it is for
the alias for a single address and an alias for a list of addreses

   alias:  
   alias:  :include://

I assume that in your complicated example, the word "aliasfile" is the
alias for a distribution list having the name "aliases." 

In debian/postfix, the syntax found in my /etc/aliases is much
simpler. In /etc/aliases, I use the same syntax as with RedHat
sendmail, only build the database with the # postalias /etc/aliases
rather than # newaliases command. However, since my aliases don't
work, I'm not sure. 

Haines Brown 

  

   


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Re: xmms-mplayer can't find glib-config?(Don't think the server accepted this last time).

[Joseph Jones]

Thanks :) I must admit, whilst I new it was possible to search packages, 
I never really considered it in relation to sorting problems like this. 
I'm sure your advice will come in handy in the future :)

Now I'm thinking about writing a new xmms-mplayer plugin, since the one 
I've installed is so dire ;)

Andreas Janssen wrote:

Hello

Joseph Jones (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

 

How do I know if I have glib installed? I've installed libglib1.2,
libglib2.0.0 and libglib2.0-data, but it says it can't find
glib-config.
Can anyone help? I really wanna use mplayer in XMMS :)
   

I think the server did accept your message the last time. I read it and
answered you. In gerneral, if you are looking for a certain file and
don't know the package it is in, go to  or
use apt-file. You need to install the proper devel package (like
libglib1.2-dev), depending on which version you want to use.
best regards
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Re: Setting hostname with DHCP

[Michael Ash]

> > > The dhclient script is broken; it doesn't do the
> > > hostname [or domain] properly.  It is probably
> > > fixable, but that script is a big mess.
> >
> > Should I move to a different DHCP-client program?
>
> Your message indicated that you were using dhcp-client.  Let me
> recommend dhcp3-client instead.
>
>   apt-get install dhcp3-client

Thank you very much for the suggestion, and I have been able
to fine-tune some of the performance of dhclient with the
new version.

However, my results with setting the hostname and domain
were no better with dhcp3 than with dhcp (v2).  Are there
parameters not listed in dhclient.conf that I should be
setting?  (Again, my desired behavior is that the DHCP
server set the hostname and the domain for my computer.)

> [Drift: I have not checked.  Which dhcp client is the new
> d-i installing by default?  I sure hope it is dhcp v3 and
> not dhcp v2!]

Since my install was from a recent iso from debian.org, I
would guess that version 2 is the default.

Best,

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Re: What do I need to to be abe to buld Gnome apps from source?

[Monique Y. Herman]

On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 at 17:40 GMT, stan penned:
> I've got a "testing" machine that I'm setting up for work, and I'm
> probably going to need to make some mods to one of the apps I plan on
> using "gspy".
> 
> It's a Gnome app, and I'm having troubel building it.  here's how it's
> failing:
> 
> checking for gnomeConf.sh file in /usr/local/lib... not found
> configure: error: Could not find the gnomeConf.sh file that is
> generated by gnome-libs install
> 
> Thats when I run autogen.sh.
> 
> What do I need to do to be able to build Gnome apps on this machine?
> 

I seem to remember having this problem in the past, and I seem to
remember it being a difference in how different major revisions of gnome
expect to be built.  Like, gnome 1 vs. 2?  I also seem to remember that
the file/package names for some gnome libraries in debian were different
than I expected.

I tried to build some gnome apps for cygwin and eventually gave up: the
dependencies list for some gnome apps is huge, and on cygwin
availability can be an issue.  I'm sure that someone with greater need
would have found a way, but I wasn't that person.

Not sure how much of what I just said was on-topic, but good luck!


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Re: Spamassassin Configuration

[Will Trillich]

On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 08:44:52PM -0700, Steve C. Lamb wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 10:24:26PM -0500, Will Trillich wrote:
> > where's the list of all the tests, and what they do?  man
> > Mail::SpamAssassin::Conf tells about customization directives,
> > but not the tests themselves...
>  
> > pointers?
> 
> dpkg -L spamassassin
> locate spamassassin

ahem. i should have been more clear. i'm wondering about things
like these--

header FAKE_HELO_USA_NET
eval:check_for_rdns_helo_mismatch("usa\.net","usa\.net")
describe FAKE_HELO_USA_NET  Host HELO did not match rDNS: usa.net

check_for_rdns_helo_mismatch -- and others like it are in
Mail::SpamAssassin::EvalTests, of course. but where's the guide
to usage? i'd expect check_...("usa.net","usa.net") to match;
instead i would hope there is a way to specify
check_...(from_addr,envelope_from) or something like that,
instead of strings.

rawbody MICROSOFT_EXECUTABLE eval:check_for_mime('microsoft_executable')
describe MICROSOFT_EXECUTABLE  Message includes Microsoft executable program
tflags MICROSOFT_EXECUTABLE userconf

this tells me that eval:check_for_mime looks in the content/type
field for "microsoft_executable". now THAT is useful
information!

i'd like to have a manpage that exposes this kind of data for
the rest of the tests available...

if there isn't one already. ?

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Trying to CREATE A CRONTAB FOR THE LAST DAY OF THE MONTH?  Best
to put all the logic within the crontab itself (a Good Thing,
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Also see http://newbieDoc.sourceForge.net/ ...


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Re: WinTV driver docs?

[Albert Dengg]

On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 16:02:13 -0500
stan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
...
> Any idea how to set the driver to use the composite video input,
> rather thna the tuner?
...
normaly you do that in your aplication..
but there is an aplication in the xawtv debian package (v4lctl) that
alows you to change this (among other things) without implementing it in
other apps...


yours
Albert

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Re: Problem w/ raid1, reiserfs & mkinitrd/linuxrc

[Antony Gelberg]

On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 07:28:49PM +0200, W. Borgert wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> the combination of raid1, reiserfs, and mkinitrd works sort of.
> An admin and me have still two problems:
> 
> - a lot of modules are loaded unnecessarily
> 
> - on boot (it seems) the devices are probed for different file systems
>   until reiserfs is found
> 
> We tried different things, like setting /etc/mkinitrd/mkinitrd.conf's
> ROOT=/dev/md1 and MODULES=dep etc. but either the problems persist or
> the kernel doesn't boot (kernel panic).  We found the linuxrc file of
> the init RD relatively complecated.  We compared it to the one of
> SuSE which was much simpler.  What did we miss?  Thanks in advance!
> 
> Cheers, WB


Is it me or has there been a lot of trolling around here lately?

A

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Re: how can I set up a "testing" machine to be able to compile Gnome apps

[Monique Y. Herman]

On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 at 17:55 GMT, stan penned:
> On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 02:55:11PM -0400, Mark Roach wrote:
>> On Wed, 2003-10-22 at 13:47, stan wrote:
>> > I'm going to build a machine to use for some video camera work. I
>> > will probably be using the gspy package. 
>> > 
>> > But, I will most likely need to make a few changes to that
>> > application for my needs. Iv'e installed the deb on a machine, and
>> > it works great. But when I grabed the source tarball and tried to
>> > compile it, I got things like:
>> > 
>> > 
>> > ing for gnomeConf.sh file in /usr/local/lib... not found configure:
>> > error: Could not find the gnomeConf.sh file that is generated by
>> > gnome-libs install
>> > 
>> > 
>> > What steps do I need to take to be able to compile Gnome
>> > application packages from source on Debian?
>> 
>> try apt-get build-dep gspy
>> 
> Ahm I see that downloads all the requisite source packages.
> 
> Thansk.
> 

Oooh that's awesome!  I had no idea ...

I think I need to find or make a "tip of the day" that takes a random
option from a random man page and displays it.

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Asus P4P800 Deluxe + Enhanced SATA/P-ATA finally working

[Matthias Hentges]

Hello all!

To everyone out there having problems getting full SATA and PATA support
working on the Asus P4P800 i have good news.

It works! The trick is to configure Enhanced-Mode, SATA *only*
and *not* PATA+SATA support in your BIOS. 

Yes i know that stinks. I discovered that by pure luck *sigh*

You'll need the latest libata kernelpatch (-> Google) to get everything
going. Remember that libata will assign a SCSI device name to your SATA
disk so you'll need to fix your /etc/fstab.

More information can be found here:
http://www.hentges.net/howtos/p4p800_SATA.html

HTH and good luck
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Re: WinTV driver docs?

[Albert Dengg]

I think you will need the bttv driver, thich is included in the kernel
source...
for more information have a look at the homepage:
http://bytesex.org/bttv/

I'm using mine whithout any problems (only one card & from tv
though)

yours
Albert

On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 09:30:29 -0500
stan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'm having a hard time finding the docs for the WinTV (bt848?) driver.
> 
> I need to support 2 of these cards in one computer, and they both need
> to take their input from composite video, instead of the tuner.
> 
> A google search for "bt848+Linux" seems to point to some rally old
> links.
> 
> Or is that the wrong driver to use?
> 
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> deserve neither liberty nor safety."
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[Linux 2.6] racoon questions

[Raffaele Sandrini]

Hi

This is a little OT for debian-user but i hope here are some with the native 
kernel 2.5/2.6 implementation of IPSec

Im not sure if i got the real purpose of racoon.
I have here debian unstable with kernel 2.6.0-test8 and ipsec-tools 0.2.2 
installed. I'd like to establish a VPN connection to my University via the 
native Ipsec stack and the kame tools.
The university providides a CISCO VPN userspace programm to do that. This 
vpnclient doesn not work with Kernel 2.5/2.6

My question: Are the KAME tools (especially racoon) able to do the same thing 
as "vpnclient" from cisco?

I red many guides and tried many configs but never got it worked. I even never 
got racoon to try to establish a ipsec connection.

Is racoon only here to do vpn between 2 racoons or also "normal" VPN 
connections like "vpnclient" from CISCO?

The only info i have from my Univerity are the vpn-servername, my username and 
my password. There are no certs or such stuff.

I'll append my config files. racoon.out holds the output of "racoon -F" As you 
can see there is no error but i can ping "vpn-cluster.ethz.ch" as long as i 
want racoon does nothing... ipsec is a script wich sets the security 
policies.

cheers,
Raffaele
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#!/usr/sbin/setkey -f
flush;
spdflush;

spdadd uranos vpn-cluster.ethz.ch any -P out ipsec
esp/transport//require;

spdadd vpn-cluster.ethz.ch localhost any -P in ipsec
esp/transport//require;
129.132.99.163  
@ethz.ch  
path include "/etc/racoon" ;
path pre_shared_key "/etc/racoon/psk.txt" ;
path certificate "/etc/racoon/cert" ;
log debug;

remote anonymous
{
exchange_mode aggressive,main,base;
lifetime time 24 hour;
proposal {
encryption_algorithm 3des;
hash_algorithm sha1;
authentication_method pre_shared_key;
dh_group 2;
}
}

sainfo anonymous
{
pfs_group 2;
lifetime time 12 hour ;
encryption_algorithm 3des, blowfish 448, rijndael ;
authentication_algorithm hmac_sha1, hmac_md5 ;
compression_algorithm deflate ;
}
2003-10-26 11:19:31: INFO: main.c:174:main(): @(#)racoon 20001216 20001216 [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]
2003-10-26 11:19:31: INFO: main.c:175:main(): @(#)This product linked OpenSSL 0.9.7c 
30 Sep 2003 (http://www.openssl.org/)
2003-10-26 11:19:31: DEBUG: algorithm.c:610:alg_oakley_dhdef(): hmac(modp1024)
2003-10-26 11:19:31: DEBUG: pfkey.c:2246:pk_checkalg(): compression algorithm can not 
be checked because sadb message does  n't support it.
2003-10-26 11:19:31: DEBUG: grabmyaddr.c:389:grab_myaddrs(): my interface: 127.0.0.1 
(lo)
2003-10-26 11:19:31: DEBUG: grabmyaddr.c:389:grab_myaddrs(): my interface: 
192.168.20.50 (eth0)
2003-10-26 11:19:31: DEBUG: grabmyaddr.c:676:autoconf_myaddrsport(): configuring 
default isakmp port.
2003-10-26 11:19:31: DEBUG: grabmyaddr.c:698:autoconf_myaddrsport(): 2 addrs are 
configured successfully
2003-10-26 11:19:31: INFO: isakmp.c:1362:isakmp_open(): 192.168.20.50[500] used as 
isakmp port (fd=6)
2003-10-26 11:19:31: INFO: isakmp.c:1362:isakmp_open(): 127.0.0.1[500] used as isakmp 
port (fd=7)
2003-10-26 11:19:31: DEBUG: pfkey.c:194:pfkey_handler(): get pfkey X_SPDDUMP message
2003-10-26 11:19:31: DEBUG: pfkey.c:194:pfkey_handler(): get pfkey X_SPDDUMP message
2003-10-26 11:19:31: DEBUG: policy.c:183:cmpspidxstrict(): sub:0xb750: 
127.0.0.1/32[0] 129.132.99.163/32[0] proto=any   dir=out
2003-10-26 11:19:31: DEBUG: policy.c:184:cmpspidxstrict(): db :0x809e3b0: 
129.132.99.163/32[0] 127.0.0.1/32[0] proto=any d  ir=in

Re: Problem Maintaining Subscription

[Monique Y. Herman]

On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 at 19:06 GMT, Conrad Newton penned:
> From Monique Y. Herman on Saturday, 2003-10-25 at 10:35:06 -0600:
>> 
>> Tech support folks are generally overworked and underpaid --
>> unfortunately, that results in a lot of "maybe he doesn't really know
>> what he's talking about -- I'll send him this stuff and maybe he'll
>> go away."  And apparently it works, since you seem to imply that you
>> accepted their answer as "no, we won't do that."
> 
> You're right, I took it as a no.  But since the amount of junk has
> gone up enormously just in the last day or so, I have to do something,
> so I am fetching the mail from their server more often, in the
> belief---not the knowledge---that the problems were related to going
> over quota.
> 
> Conrad
> 

Well, when I started getting this Swen crap, it was at a rate of several
hundred a day; now I'm getting 4 or 5, maybe 10 a day.  I don't know
what the difference is; I'm still using the same mail server.  So maybe
there's hope for you, yet.

(Of course, I never see that mail; procmail is nice enough to /dev/null
it for me.)


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Re: Insidious Spam/swen/Garbage

[Wayne Topa]

Andre Kalus([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
> 
> It is very simple - you do not need any config. I just installed mutt
> (from unstable). Then I call:
> 
> mutt -f pop://[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> where xxx is my customer number from GMX (you can use both e-Mail
> address and customer number as login but I guess E-mail won't work because
> it has an @ inside). pop.gmx.net is your providers pop server.
> 
> Then you are asked for your password and see the contents of your mailbox.
> Use arrow keys to move up and down, press D to delete a message. Q exits
> mutt, it asks you to delete the marked ("D") messages. Just press enter
> and you are done.
> 
> I do have a dial-up connection too, so this is my way to get rid of SWEN...

If you add set pop_host=pop.gmx.net, set pop_user=xxx and set pop_pass=
to your .muttrc then   mutt -f pop://  
will connect without typeing so much.  :-)

This works in version 1.5.4-1 (testing) as well

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Incremental CDR backups

[Paul M Foster]

I'm having difficulty burning incremental CDR backups. (Using Debian
3.0r1/testing.) They burn fine, but when I mount the CD after the second
and subsequent backups, all I can see is the original session.

Here are the commands I give Linux:

(First burn)

mkisofs -r -o /tmp/cdimage /home/paulf/cdrom
cdrecord -v -multi speed=4 dev=0,0,0 -data /tmp/cdimage

(Second burn, after creating a new bunch of stuff to backup)

NEXTTRACK=`cdrecord -msinfo dev=0,0,0`
mkisofs -r -o /tmp/cdimage -C $NEXTTRACK -M /dev/cdrom /home/paulf/cdrom
cdrecord -v -multi speed=4 dev=0,0,0 -data /tmp/cdimage

According to the CD-Writing-HOWTO and the README.multi doc file from the 
cdrecord disto, this should do it. But all I see is the original session 
when I mount the CD. (And no, I don't want to do this with a GUI, 
thanks.)

Anyone have some expertise they can lend here?

Paul


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