Re: can't get off the ground

[Neo]

On Sun, 2003-10-05 at 08:34, Jason Housewright wrote:
> I am in dire need of help...again. I have dl the
> netinst image from debian (the official for test). I
> cannot for the life of me figure out how to get it to
> recognize my pcmcia ethernet card. I have specified
> boot in the boot parameters, but pcmcia has not been
> turned on. I would really, really appreciate some
> direction here. I can't get any further than the
> "select network card" of the install.  Thanks again.
> 
> 
> Jason Housewright
> 
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Hi Jason,

am not an expert, but my pcmcia ethernetcard required
the loading of pcmcia modules in the kernel. This is fairly
simple to do, unless you need to compile them in the kernel, in
which case you're in whole new world of trouble/hurt/learning ;-).

Loading pcmcia modules (when enabled in your kernel)
is fairly straigth forward: run as root 'lsmod', which shows the
currently loaded mdules. If there are no modules named 'pcmcia_core'
or such, you can start with 'modprobe pcmcia_core' which tries to
load the pcmcia modules. If this succeeds, (check with 'lsmod'),
you can try to load your apropriate network card driver with
'modprobe '. Your drivers can be found at 
'/lib/modules//pcmcia'. Work from there.

Sincerely,

Jan.



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Re: can't get off the ground

[kmark]

On Sun, 5 Oct 2003, Neo wrote:

> On Sun, 2003-10-05 at 08:34, Jason Housewright wrote:
> > I am in dire need of help...again. I have dl the
> > netinst image from debian (the official for test). I
> > cannot for the life of me figure out how to get it to
> > recognize my pcmcia ethernet card. I have specified
> > boot in the boot parameters, but pcmcia has not been
> > turned on. I would really, really appreciate some
> > direction here. I can't get any further than the
> > "select network card" of the install.  Thanks again.
> >
> >
> > Jason Housewright
> >
> > __
> > Do you Yahoo!?
> > The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search
> > http://shopping.yahoo.com
> >
>
> Hi Jason,
>
>   am not an expert, but my pcmcia ethernetcard required
> the loading of pcmcia modules in the kernel. This is fairly
> simple to do, unless you need to compile them in the kernel, in
> which case you're in whole new world of trouble/hurt/learning ;-).
>
>   Loading pcmcia modules (when enabled in your kernel)
> is fairly straigth forward: run as root 'lsmod', which shows the
> currently loaded mdules. If there are no modules named 'pcmcia_core'
> or such, you can start with 'modprobe pcmcia_core' which tries to
> load the pcmcia modules. If this succeeds, (check with 'lsmod'),
> you can try to load your apropriate network card driver with
> 'modprobe '. Your drivers can be found at
> '/lib/modules//pcmcia'. Work from there.

Hi Jason,
yes I agree you need to load the modules for the pcmcia interface and the
ethernet card. Have you tried to get a copy of knoppix? If you can boot it
from your laptop, you can run the lsmod from a root console and then you
may then want to install  knoppix ;-).
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Re: can't get off the ground

[Jason Housewright]

Thanks Jan. I am grateful for your help. My problem
is, however, that I'm trying to install. I have to
have the card working before I can even install
Debian. Oh me. Such troubles. I'm not sure how to get
the pcmcia module loaded for the installation.

I am truly amazed at how helpful this list is! In some
groups there is such an "elitist" mentality. As far as
I have read, Debian users are truly a community. That
is just awesome. Ok, I'll shut up. Thanks again.

Jason Housewright

--- Neo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, 2003-10-05 at 08:34, Jason Housewright
> wrote:
> > I am in dire need of help...again. I have dl the
> > netinst image from debian (the official for test).
> I
> > cannot for the life of me figure out how to get it
> to
> > recognize my pcmcia ethernet card. I have
> specified
> > boot in the boot parameters, but pcmcia has not
> been
> > turned on. I would really, really appreciate some
> > direction here. I can't get any further than the
> > "select network card" of the install.  Thanks
> again.
> > 
> > 
> > Jason Housewright
> > 
> > __
> > Do you Yahoo!?
> > The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product
> search
> > http://shopping.yahoo.com
> > 
> 
> Hi Jason,
> 
>   am not an expert, but my pcmcia ethernetcard
> required
> the loading of pcmcia modules in the kernel. This is
> fairly
> simple to do, unless you need to compile them in the
> kernel, in
> which case you're in whole new world of
> trouble/hurt/learning ;-).
> 
>   Loading pcmcia modules (when enabled in your
> kernel)
> is fairly straigth forward: run as root 'lsmod',
> which shows the
> currently loaded mdules. If there are no modules
> named 'pcmcia_core'
> or such, you can start with 'modprobe pcmcia_core'
> which tries to
> load the pcmcia modules. If this succeeds, (check
> with 'lsmod'),
> you can try to load your apropriate network card
> driver with
> 'modprobe '. Your drivers can be found
> at 
> '/lib/modules//pcmcia'. Work from
> there.
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Jan.
> 
> 


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Re: Do we really need to worry about viruses (was Re: Anyone else notice that Swen is slowing down?)

[Karsten M. Self]

on Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 09:25:50PM -0400, Bijan Soleymani ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 01:42:28AM +0100, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> > E.g.:  there are _good_, _solid_ reasons Debian doesn't allow Mozilla to
> > run as root, why X11 TCP connections are disabled by default, and why
> > SSH is strongly recommended.  Yes, it's possible to override or ignore
> > these settings, but that's not information I share, particularly not
> > with newbies, on the simple principle that learning how to shoot
> > yourself in the foot _might_ just provide you with some clue as to why
> > this is a bad idea.
> 
> I agree that security is generally a good thing, but some people turn it
> into some sort of cult. 

Security is a process.  It involves application of principles.
Consistently.  With understanding.

> Once upon a time I tried running FreeBSD (or was it NetBSD) and some
> script I had died, because I didn't have permission to write to
> /dev/null. That really made me laugh.

*That* is a configuration issue.  /dev/null should be world writeable.
The fact that it wasn't indicates an improperly configured system.

> One thing I really like to do is disable passwords for local logins.
> But I'm sure there are people who will tell me that the CIA is going
> to come to my house, tie me up, log into my computer and steal all my
> mp3s or something :) I really like doing this because it saves me from
> typing my password 300 times a day, and it doesn't make my computer
> any easier to hack over the network. 

An why the hell are you typing your password 300 times a day?  In my
experience, this almost always indicates a misunderstanding of available
tools.

  - For your local system, your login need be typed only when logging
in, or when clearing your screensaver password.

  - For access to remote systems, you want to use ssh-agent, ssh, rsakey
authentication, and a passphrase-protected SSH key.  If you need
help setting this up, or don't understand any of these terms, post
to list.

  - Those two situations should cover the vast majority of your password
use situations.  Me?  I end up typing my password probably a dozen
times or so a day, generally when going root (via sudo), or when
clearing my screensaver.

Given that I live alone with a cat, I still lock my desktop when I walk
away for any length of time, set xscreensaver to cut in (and lock)
anyway, and require a password for 'sudo' on my personal account.


> So I think there should be a proper balance between convenience and
> security. For instance the current version of Outlook Express (aka
> outhouse excess, etc.) defaults to preventing users from opening any
> attachments: "Sorry this attachment could be a virus.". It does this
> even with "plain/text" attachments. I've had to fix this on any number
> of people. Even worse is the fact that Outlook's GPG/Mime handling is
> broken and it actually doesn't show the message but shows it as an
> attachment, which if the user clicks on it, gives them a warning
> saying that it may be a virus. I mean this prevents legitimate
> attachments like jpegs, etc. So users simply disable it, and you're
> back to square one.

First, this is debian-users, not wmswindows-users.  Second, Microsoft
Outlook is a security hole that happens to be an email client.  Third:
go away for a while and read:

http://www.ccianet.org/papers/cyberinsecurity.pdf


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Re: can't get off the ground

[Jason Housewright]

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> 
> On Sun, 5 Oct 2003, Neo wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, 2003-10-05 at 08:34, Jason Housewright
> wrote:
> > > I am in dire need of help...again. I have dl the
> > > netinst image from debian (the official for
> test). I
> > > cannot for the life of me figure out how to get
> it to
> > > recognize my pcmcia ethernet card. I have
> specified
> > > boot in the boot parameters, but pcmcia has not
> been
> > > turned on. I would really, really appreciate
> some
> > > direction here. I can't get any further than the
> > > "select network card" of the install.  Thanks
> again.
> > >
> > >
> > > Jason Housewright
> > >
> > > __
> > > Do you Yahoo!?
> > > The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product
> search
> > > http://shopping.yahoo.com
> > >
> >
> > Hi Jason,
> >
> > am not an expert, but my pcmcia ethernetcard
> required
> > the loading of pcmcia modules in the kernel. This
> is fairly
> > simple to do, unless you need to compile them in
> the kernel, in
> > which case you're in whole new world of
> trouble/hurt/learning ;-).
> >
> > Loading pcmcia modules (when enabled in your
> kernel)
> > is fairly straigth forward: run as root 'lsmod',
> which shows the
> > currently loaded mdules. If there are no modules
> named 'pcmcia_core'
> > or such, you can start with 'modprobe pcmcia_core'
> which tries to
> > load the pcmcia modules. If this succeeds, (check
> with 'lsmod'),
> > you can try to load your apropriate network card
> driver with
> > 'modprobe '. Your drivers can be found
> at
> > '/lib/modules//pcmcia'. Work from
> there.
> 
> Hi Jason,
> yes I agree you need to load the modules for the
> pcmcia interface and the
> ethernet card. Have you tried to get a copy of
> knoppix? If you can boot it
> from your laptop, you can run the lsmod from a root
> console and then you
> may then want to install  knoppix ;-).
> -Kevin
> 
Thanks Kevin. No I haven't tried knoppix yet. From
what I've been reading though, I need to. It's
definitely an option. I was hoping to have this
machine up and running before Monday...mid-terms. Oh
well...that's how it goes sometimes.

Jason

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Re: raid1 and lilo second disk doesn't boot - testing

[Rudy Gevaert]

On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 02:11:22PM -0700, Alvin Oga wrote:
> 
> when you disconnected the disks ... how exactly did you do it
> to simulate the ddisk failure ..

I did first a poweroff and then

>   - did you pull the power cord or pull the ide cable off

pulled both (ide + power) cords off.

>   - power up the system with the other disks ..
>   - write a 2GB file ... in degraded raid mode ...
>   - power down .. reconnect the cable  ... power up
>   - and watch it resync..
>  
>   ( pull or connect the cables when the power is off )

ok I'll try that.  It's not going to be 2 gigs because each disk is
only 1 gig :)



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Re: can't get off the ground

[kmark]

On Sun, 5 Oct 2003, Jason Housewright wrote:

> Thanks Jan. I am grateful for your help. My problem
> is, however, that I'm trying to install. I have to
> have the card working before I can even install
> Debian. Oh me. Such troubles. I'm not sure how to get
> the pcmcia module loaded for the installation.
>
> I am truly amazed at how helpful this list is! In some
> groups there is such an "elitist" mentality. As far as
> I have read, Debian users are truly a community. That
> is just awesome. Ok, I'll shut up. Thanks again.
>
> Jason Housewright
>
> --- Neo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Sun, 2003-10-05 at 08:34, Jason Housewright
> > wrote:
> > > I am in dire need of help...again. I have dl the
> > > netinst image from debian (the official for test).
> > I
> > > cannot for the life of me figure out how to get it
> > to
> > > recognize my pcmcia ethernet card. I have
> > specified
> > > boot in the boot parameters, but pcmcia has not
> > been
> > > turned on. I would really, really appreciate some
> > > direction here. I can't get any further than the
> > > "select network card" of the install.  Thanks
> > again.
> > >
> > >
> > > Jason Housewright
> > >
> > > __
> > > Do you Yahoo!?
> > > The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product
> > search
> > > http://shopping.yahoo.com
> > >

Hi Jason,
In the "Installing Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 For Intel x86" on the debian site,
on page 75, in chapter 7, part 7.5, it says " However, if you are
installing by way of a PCMCIA network device, this alternate must be
selected, and PCMCIA support must be configured prior to configuring the
network. This alternate step is sufficient to load the device driver for a
PCMCIA ethernet card." There is more to read. Check it out.
-Kev


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Re: Do we really need to worry about viruses (was Re: Anyone else notice that Swen is slowing down?)

[kmark]

On Sun, 5 Oct 2003, Karsten M. Self wrote:

>
> Given that I live alone with a cat, I still lock my desktop when I walk
> away for any length of time, set xscreensaver to cut in (and lock)
> anyway, and require a password for 'sudo' on my personal account.
>

Hi Karsten,
you must have one smart cat to have to password protect your console! ;-)
-Kev


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Re: SED problem

[Dave selby]

Michael D Schleif wrote:

Michael D Schleif <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003:10:04:16:32:37-0500] scribed:
 

Dave selby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003:10:04:19:25:32+0100] scribed:
   

I have multiple html files. I need to remove the same chunk of code from 
all of them.
I have made a bash loop to feed the files to sed, but am struggling with 
the sed code.

I need to delete all the code between


and


Including the above comments.
 

Do you want to specify a range like this:

  sed '//d
   D
}

 

Many thanks, it works great ... just playing with it to get how it works !

Dave



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Re: SED problem

[Dave selby]

Bijan Soleymani wrote:

On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 07:25:32PM +0100, Dave selby wrote:
 

I have multiple html files. I need to remove the same chunk of code from 
all of them.
I have made a bash loop to feed the files to sed, but am struggling with 
the sed code.

I need to delete all the code between


and


Including the above comments.

I have tried, played with N, d substitution to // but can't pattern 
match across multiple lines.

Any ideas ?
   

You can handle that sort of thing in perl pretty easily. The syntax is
pretty similar and the performance is about the same. However you get to
use variables, conditions, loops, etc.
Bijan
 

...mmm... perl, I have heard of it but not played with it yet.

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Re: can't get off the ground

[Neo]

> In the "Installing Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 For Intel x86" on the debian site,
> on page 75, in chapter 7, part 7.5, it says " However, if you are

Now that's what I call sound advice ;-)

Jan.


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Re: blufish

[Paul Scott]

Ben Edwards wrote:

Not really sure where to ask this cos there douse not seem to be any
email lists or forums for bluefish.
Anyway I really like it but it douse not seem to do syntax highlishting
in php, odd cos it seems to have good suport for it generaly.
I'm running Bluefish 0.11 on unstable.  It works here.  Is 
Document/Highlight Syntax checked?

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Re: Howto turn vi auto indenting off for html files

[Joris Huizer]

--- Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, 2003-10-04 at 12:58, Joris Huizer wrote:
> > --- Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On Sat, 2003-10-04 at 09:10, Joris Huizer wrote:
> > > > Hello everybody,
> > > > 
> > > > I like using VIM as it gives syntax
> highlighting
> > > and
> > > > auto indenting on C files... 
> > > > But I don't like the auto indenting of html
> files.
> > > How
> > > > can I turn it off for one session - or even
> > > better,
> > > > for all html files ?
> > > 
> > > :set noai
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > 
> > Well I no difference in behavior when I do that...
> I
> > added my .vimrc maybe there's something weird
> there...
> 
> I know this is a stupid question, but did you
> restart vim after
> adding 'set noai' to ~/.vimrc ?
> 

Well I thought you meant doing that while allready
running in vim. I looked closer to the .vimrc and I
found these lines were causing the trouble:

  " Enable file type detection.
  " Use the default filetype settings, so that mail
gets 'tw' set to 72,
  " 'cindent' is on in C files, etc.
  " Also load indent files, to automatically do
language-dependent indenting.
  filetype plugin indent on

I commented the filetype line out and now it works :-)

Thanks for your help !

Joris

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Further SED problem

[Dave selby]

Im may be trying to push SED to far, in which case perl has been 
suggested, but here is my problem ...

For a series of html pages, I need to take the text from the title tag 
and insert it where there is a xx in the document, deleting the xx. Ie 
use a template, fill in the title & let SED do the hard work.

My best guess so far is
//,//h
to get the text into hold space, then I hit a problem,
"s" will not accept the hold space as a replacement string
"c\" is a block command
I have looked at h,H,g,G but I still need a substitution.

Any ideas, or is it hello perl ?

Dave

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Probmelms mit Procmail

[Christian Borchmann]

Hallo,

What right have i to give to the .procmailrc file?


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procmail: Suspicious rcfile "/home/spitfire/.procmailrc"
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mit freundlichen Grüßen

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Re: Probmelms mit Procmail

[kmark]

On Sun, 5 Oct 2003, Christian Borchmann wrote:

> Hallo,
>
> What right have i to give to the .procmailrc file?
>

chmod 644 .procmailrc
chown spitfire:spitfire .procmailrc
this is how mine is set.
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Re: How to kill X?

[Paul Johnson]

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> was the only key combination that worked. Is there any setting that will 
> restore its function of 'kill X but don't reboot the machine'  or any other 
> key combination that achieves that?

Disable rebooting in the bios?

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AW: Probmelms mit Procmail, exim, courier-imap...

[Christian Borchmann]

I checked it, but it still doe not work.

Maybe because of the courier-maildrop.

Exim is delivering the mail to the users Maildir only when .forward file in
the users home is |/usr/bin/maildrop. When removing courier-maildrop from
the system the mails are delivered to /var/mail/user.

I think there is somethink wrong with my exim.conf, i need the mails to go
spamschecking in spamassassin and then to the users and to the mailfilter...

Thanks for your help


mit freundlichen Grüßen

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On Sun, 5 Oct 2003, Christian Borchmann wrote:

> Hallo,
>
> What right have i to give to the .procmailrc file?
>

chmod 644 .procmailrc
chown spitfire:spitfire .procmailrc
this is how mine is set.
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Re: raid1 and lilo second disk doesn't boot - testing

[Rudy Gevaert]

On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 02:11:22PM -0700, Alvin Oga wrote:

> soemthing whacky if you have to manually add the disk back in
> with mdadm ... it thinks its brand new virgin disk ?? vs just needing
> to have it's new files sync'd to the  disk that just came online

Somebody just told me that it is normal that you have to add it
manually.

Or isn't it ?

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Re: Virus-infected hosts list

[Paul Johnson]

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On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 11:27:52AM -0600, Jacob Anawalt wrote:
> So you're just keeping a list of problem IP's and accepting additional 
> traffic from them, or do they have to use another IP address to mail the 
> "Disinfected, thanks" email to?

I follow the RFC's.  Postmaster always accepts mail.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] is where they're pointed to in the bounce
message.

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Re: exim/fetchmail config

[Clive Menzies]

On (04/10/03 20:54), Paul Mackinney wrote:
> Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 20:54:00 -0700
> From: Paul Mackinney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: exim/fetchmail config
> 
> Jeff Elkins declaimed:
> > I've recently switched to a system where fetchmail picks up all my pop3 email 
> > and routes it to a local address, wherespamassassin analyzes it. Thus far, 
> > it's been working great, except for one caveat...
> > 
> > Certain family members are Windows/Outlook Express users and when they attempt 
> > to reply to an email it's routed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > rather than jeffelkins(at)earthlink.net or jeff(at)elkins.org 
> > 
> > I'm stumped. Is this a problem with my exim/fetchmail config or is it a OE 
> > problem?  How can I overcome this?
Hi Jeff

I had the same problem and struggled for days to find a way around it ;)

I then found this from Rob Lister:
http://www.exim.org/pipermail/exim-users/Week-of-Mon-20010903/029627.html

It worked for me ;)

Regards

Clive


> >
> On a hunch, I wonder if you've customized /etc/email-addresses. Exim
> uses it to set the default return address for your Linux account.
> 
> I use the mutt email reader. Normally it uses the return address that I
> specify. But if it doesn't get set for some reason (experimental
> mbox-hooks in .muttrc) then it uses the default.
> 
> You can get a lot of info by bcc:ing yourself on a message and reviewing
> the headers.
> 
> HTH, PM
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Release statusus

[Neo]

Hi all,

is sid frozen? I hardly got any updates last week.

I'm currently tracking sid/unstable on a pre-production
machine, waiting to use Gnome 2.X from a official stable release.
What is more sound to use in /etc/apt/sources.list, a reference to
sid  or one to unstable? More generally, does a 'named' release
(ie. woody, sarge, sid) indeed go from unstable to testing to
stable? As I understand and experience, unstable/sid is more
'stable' than testing is at the moment.

Sincerely,

Jan.



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Re: How to kill X?

[Neo]

On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 13:37, cr wrote:
> Way back in the days of RedHat 5 or thereabouts, whenever X siezed for any 
> reason, I could kill it with Alt-Ctrl-Backspace and end up back in the 
> command line.   Very handy, since Linux is ~  10^6 times more stable than X   
> ;)
> 
> However, since I got more sophisticated hardware with an ATX power supply, 
> Ctrl-Alt-Backspace turns the machine off (or reboots it), with consequent 
> fscking of the drives, which is a pain.   
> 
> I just had a sieze in X, and Ctrl-Alt-F? had no effect, Ctrl-Alt-Backspace 
> was the only key combination that worked. Is there any setting that will 
> restore its function of 'kill X but don't reboot the machine'  or any other 
> key combination that achieves that?
> 
> cr
> 

Hi,

try loging in remotely and run '/etc/init.d/dm stop'. 
(Fill in your running favorite display manager)

Sincerely,

Jan.


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Re: Probmelms mit Procmail, exim, courier-imap...

[Alexander Poslavsky]

On Sun, 5 Oct 2003 11:46:26 +0200
"Christian Borchmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> Exim is delivering the mail to the users Maildir only when .forward file in
> the users home is |/usr/bin/maildrop. When removing courier-maildrop from
> the system the mails are delivered to /var/mail/user.
> 
> I think there is somethink wrong with my exim.conf, i need the mails to go


this is a good link to set up courier-imap/maildir
http://talk.trekweb.com/~jasonb/articles/exim_maildir_imap.shtml

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RE: Can't get off the ground

[Jason Housewright]

Thanks Kev. Your help is truly appreciated. I had
"read" right through that info earlier. It didn't make
sense though becuase I wasn't getting anything like
what was described in the doc. It wouldn't have been a
problem on my main PC. That's ok. I decided to forget
about doing a net install and simply download whole
iso's. I have another, probably easier question: I
certainly don't want to dl all 7 CD's. That was why I
wanted to do a net install. At this point, I just want
to get a base system going, then use apt-get to bring
it up to speed. How many of the images should I dl to
do this most efficiently. I read in the documentation
that probably around 3 would suffice. How many would
y'all suggest? Would two do the trick...one? Thanks
for the help and direction.

Jason

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RE: Can't get off the ground

[Neo]

On Sun, 2003-10-05 at 12:15, Jason Housewright wrote:
> Thanks Kev. Your help is truly appreciated. I had
> "read" right through that info earlier. It didn't make
> sense though becuase I wasn't getting anything like
> what was described in the doc. It wouldn't have been a
> problem on my main PC. That's ok. I decided to forget
> about doing a net install and simply download whole
> iso's. I have another, probably easier question: I
> certainly don't want to dl all 7 CD's. That was why I
> wanted to do a net install. At this point, I just want
> to get a base system going, then use apt-get to bring
> it up to speed. How many of the images should I dl to
> do this most efficiently. I read in the documentation
> that probably around 3 would suffice. How many would
> y'all suggest? Would two do the trick...one? Thanks
> for the help and direction.
> 
> Jason
> 
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> http://shopping.yahoo.com
> 

Hi Jason,

just the first one is enough, if you're running standard
hardware (x86, ide, pci-eth, vga) Don't know about pcmcia though ;-)
Just try. I recently had to use the second disk for the first time
for a net based install because it ran scsi disks.

Sincerely,

Jan.



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RE: Can't get off the ground

[Jason Housewright]

Thanks Jan. I'll do that. I'm really excited about
getting Debian to work. You all are a great help...not
to mention a great encouragement. Thanks again.

Jason
--- Neo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, 2003-10-05 at 12:15, Jason Housewright
> wrote:
> > Thanks Kev. Your help is truly appreciated. I had
> > "read" right through that info earlier. It didn't
> make
> > sense though becuase I wasn't getting anything
> like
> > what was described in the doc. It wouldn't have
> been a
> > problem on my main PC. That's ok. I decided to
> forget
> > about doing a net install and simply download
> whole
> > iso's. I have another, probably easier question: I
> > certainly don't want to dl all 7 CD's. That was
> why I
> > wanted to do a net install. At this point, I just
> want
> > to get a base system going, then use apt-get to
> bring
> > it up to speed. How many of the images should I dl
> to
> > do this most efficiently. I read in the
> documentation
> > that probably around 3 would suffice. How many
> would
> > y'all suggest? Would two do the trick...one?
> Thanks
> > for the help and direction.
> > 
> > Jason
> > 
> > __
> > Do you Yahoo!?
> > The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product
> search
> > http://shopping.yahoo.com
> > 
> 
> Hi Jason,
> 
>   just the first one is enough, if you're running
> standard
> hardware (x86, ide, pci-eth, vga) Don't know about
> pcmcia though ;-)
> Just try. I recently had to use the second disk for
> the first time
> for a net based install because it ran scsi disks.
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Jan.
> 
> 
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Re: Release statusus

[Colin Watson]

On Sun, Oct 05, 2003 at 11:57:37AM +0200, Neo wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
>   is sid frozen?

No. Some people are slowing down uploads in an attempt to stabilize
things.

>   I'm currently tracking sid/unstable on a pre-production
> machine, waiting to use Gnome 2.X from a official stable release.
> What is more sound to use in /etc/apt/sources.list, a reference to
> sid  or one to unstable?

They're equivalent.

> More generally, does a 'named' release (ie. woody, sarge, sid) indeed
> go from unstable to testing to stable?

sid is always unstable; unstable is always sid. Other codenames go from
testing to stable to oldstable to archive.debian.org.

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Re: Do we really need to worry about viruses (was Re: Anyone else notice that Swen is slowing down?)

[Brian Walker]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, 5 Oct 2003, Karsten M. Self wrote:

Given that I live alone with a cat, I still lock my desktop when I walk
away for any length of time, set xscreensaver to cut in (and lock)
anyway, and require a password for 'sudo' on my personal account.

Hi Karsten,
you must have one smart cat to have to password protect your console! ;-)
-Kev

hah!

My cat just managed to switch off my computer while I was out making a 
cup of tea. No idea how she managed it. She seemed quite pleased with 
herself.

Brian

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AW: Probmelms mit Procmail, exim, courier-imap...

[Christian Borchmann]

I did this on Friday, thanks to google ;-)



... exim.conf: 

local_delivery:
  driver = appendfile
  group = mail
  mode = 0660
  mode_fail_narrower = false
  envelope_to_add = true
  return_path_add = true

  directory=${home}/Maildir
  maildir_format = true
  prefix = ""

The directory, maildir_form...

It works fine, but what role the courier maildrop is playing?

When i delete the .forward file in the /home/user all mail are be delivered
to /var/mail/user

Help me Obiwan Kenobi...

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Re: Release statusus

[Neo]

On Sun, 2003-10-05 at 12:14, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 05, 2003 at 11:57:37AM +0200, Neo wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > is sid frozen?
> 
> No. Some people are slowing down uploads in an attempt to stabilize
> things.
> 
> > I'm currently tracking sid/unstable on a pre-production
> > machine, waiting to use Gnome 2.X from a official stable release.
> > What is more sound to use in /etc/apt/sources.list, a reference to
> > sid  or one to unstable?
> 
> They're equivalent.
> 
> > More generally, does a 'named' release (ie. woody, sarge, sid) indeed
> > go from unstable to testing to stable?
> 
> sid is always unstable; unstable is always sid. Other codenames go from
> testing to stable to oldstable to archive.debian.org.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> -- 
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> 

Hi Colin,

thanks for your answer but I would like to get some cla-
rification on this to be absolutely sure, because I put a lot 
of work in this, sorry.

As I understand your answer, sid is the exception, ie.
always equivalent to unstable, just the content changes. If so, 
when? And more importantly, when does the content of the current
sid/unstable move over to stable and under what name?

Sincerely,

Jan.

PS I must be missing something essential about the whole Debian
release system, because I don't get it all.


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Re: Spamassassin thinking i'm a spammer

[Karsten M. Self]

on Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 09:16:28AM -0500, W. Paul Mills ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 10:23:43 +, Mark Maas wrote:
> 
> > All,
> > 
> > I installed the following:
> > 
> > Exim 3.35, Amavis, spamassassin, razor and clam-av.
> > 
> > Amavis scans incoming and outgoing emails, and therefore also get passed
> > on to Spamassassin for checking as wel.
> > 
> > Receently though spamassassin thinks i'm a spammer as well:
> >   Unsolicited bulk email from:
> >  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >   Subject: SPAM [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> >   vate Your Reunion.com Account Today!!]
> > 
> >   According to the 'Received:' trace, the message originated at:
> >  mark
> > 
> >   The message WILL BE delivered to:
> >   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > 
> >   The message has been quarantined as:
> >  
> > /var/lib/amavis/virusmails/spam-9a81e2098af61b2e4a1ce70af22a5fc8-20031003-103400-27759-07.gz
> > 
> > Why? Well i've got a exim forward filter file, and when an email comes in
> > with SPAM in the subject it gets send to spamcop for reporting.
> > That report email is seen by spamassassin as spam as well.
> > 
> > How do I tell spamassassin that email originating from local accounts
> > (root, mark, etc) are by default never spam?

> "whitelist_from menem.mine.nu" in /etc/spamassassin/local.cf or
> ~/.spamassassin/user_prefs

This will, however, whitelist incoming mail as well.  A common tactic
for spammer is to forge/spoof an address in your own domain.

Wouldn't the right thing to do be having separate (not sure what the
exim4 terminology is) routers/forwarders which handle incoming mail and
outgoing deliveries separately, or possibly with different SA rulesets?

Whitelisting yourself might be another useful trick.

Peace.

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Format/Partitioning HD USB under DebianPPC

[SpawnPPC]

Hi all.

I'm Emanuele.

How I can split and format my HD USB with my Linux DebianPPC?

Thanx for all.

Emanuele.

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[Virus detected]

[MailMonitor_on_nddm1]

Sophos Plc MailMonitor for Domino/D R1.0(4.003c)
Server: nddm1
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Your email contained infected attachment(s).  For advice consult your
system administrator.

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To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Rec.: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 10/05/2003 02:09:52 PM
Subject:  Hi,honey

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RE: Can't get off the ground

[kmark]

On Sun, 5 Oct 2003, Jason Housewright wrote:

> Thanks Kev. Your help is truly appreciated. I had
> "read" right through that info earlier. It didn't make
> sense though becuase I wasn't getting anything like
> what was described in the doc. It wouldn't have been a
> problem on my main PC. That's ok. I decided to forget
> about doing a net install and simply download whole
> iso's. I have another, probably easier question: I
> certainly don't want to dl all 7 CD's. That was why I
> wanted to do a net install. At this point, I just want
> to get a base system going, then use apt-get to bring
> it up to speed. How many of the images should I dl to
> do this most efficiently. I read in the documentation
> that probably around 3 would suffice. How many would
> y'all suggest? Would two do the trick...one? Thanks
> for the help and direction.

Hi Jason,
I used once bonzai linux:
https://developer.berlios.de/projects/bonzai/
It a cool way to install woody (or stable) debian and KDE.
only 200mb.
-Kev



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Re: Release statusus

[Colin Watson]

On Sun, Oct 05, 2003 at 01:01:54PM +0200, Neo wrote:
>   As I understand your answer, sid is the exception, ie.
> always equivalent to unstable, just the content changes.

Yes (although I don't understand why you qualified that with "just the
content changes").

> If so, when?

Unstable is changed daily as and when developers decide to upload
packages.

> And more importantly, when does the content of the current
> sid/unstable move over to stable and under what name?

Unstable packages propagate gradually into testing as described in
http://www.debian.org/devel/testing/. Every so often, we move the whole
of testing to stable, call that a new release, and create a new testing
under a new codename. After that, stable is only changed to fix critical
problems (security fixes and maybe a few other things).

Releases are announced on the debian-announce mailing list; the last was
in July 2002.

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Re: blufish

[Richard Kimber]

On Sun, 05 Oct 2003 01:23:19 -0700
Paul Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Ben Edwards wrote:
> 
> >Not really sure where to ask this cos there douse not seem to be any
> >email lists or forums for bluefish.

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default keymap

[ZekeVarg]

How do I change the default keymap to be loaded at boot?
I tried to run "dpkg-reconfigure console-tools" and change from us to se keymap, but 
still I get the us keymap loaded during boot.
I checked around on google and came up with the result that the file 
/etc/sysconfig/keybord should be edited, but that file diden't exist on my system, so 
I searched on and found a posting on skloelinux (a debian-based distubition) telling 
me that debian no longer use that file. 
Regards Zeke


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Re: Release statusus

[Neo]

Hi Colin,

so, sumarizing for my situation: it's no use tracking a
unstable 'release' because it just isn't that: a release, and never 
will be. It's stabiblity level will vary over time, (for instance 
tomorrow somebody might decide to drop linux 2.6.0-test6 in unstable) 
while the testing release's stability will increase untill it's 
mature enough to become a stable release. (After which testing will
fall back again, I presume, to testing's level of stability.)

Then why not take the logical step, pick a kernel release 
(or combination of linux/hurd/*bsd releases), put a name on it, 
put it in testing and let it grow to a stable release? This name
sid just confuses things, in my humble opinion.

Sincerely,

Jan.







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Re: Release statusus

[Osamu Aoki]

Hi,

On Sun, Oct 05, 2003 at 02:43:42PM +0200, Neo wrote:
> Hi Colin,
> 
>   so, sumarizing for my situation: it's no use tracking a
> unstable 'release' because it just isn't that: a release, and never 
> will be. 

Never.  You are correct.  

> It's stabiblity level will vary over time, (for instance 
> tomorrow somebody might decide to drop linux 2.6.0-test6 in unstable) 
> while the testing release's stability will increase untill it's 
> mature enough to become a stable release. (After which testing will
> fall back again, I presume, to testing's level of stability.)

Kernel packages do not upgrade except for minor debian packaging
version.  Any change from say 2.6.0-test6 to 2.6.0-test7 will be
different package and you must manually choose to install them.

>   Then why not take the logical step, pick a kernel release 
> (or combination of linux/hurd/*bsd releases), put a name on it, 
> put it in testing and let it grow to a stable release? This name
> sid just confuses things, in my humble opinion.

By the way, kernel-image-* is the current linux kernel binary
distribution names.  Please get used to how packages are named.

Good luck and cheers.
Osamu


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Re: Postgres

[J.H.M. Dassen (Ray)]

On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 18:17:24 -0600, Dan Roscoe wrote:
> Warning: Unable to connect to PostgreSQL server: FATAL 1: IDENT
> authentication failed for user "dan" in /var/www/boards/db/postgres7.php
> on line 79
> phpBB : Critical Error
> 
> Could not connect to the database
> 
> which would lead someone to think that Postgres is not running,

No. It should lead someone to think that Postgres is running, but is
refusing the connection attempt on the basis of its access control settings
in /etc/postgresql/pg_hba.conf; possibly because you haven't installed an
identd (which the postgresql package Suggests:).

HTH,
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Re: Creating Custom CDs

[Johann Koenig]

On Sunday October  5 at 06:28pm
Edward Murrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Perhaps I should have explained things a bit better. While Jigdo can
> handle getting all the files and so on, my chief interest is not
> trying to handle all the dependencies by hand, or generating the
> .jigdo files by hand. Is this doable?

apt-cache show apt-zip

Perhaps that is what you're looking for?

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-cache show apt-zip

Description: Update a non-networked computer using apt and removable
media These scripts simplify the process of using dselect and apt on a
 non-networked Debian box, using removable media like ZIP floppies.
 One generates a `fetch' script (supporting backends such as wget and
 lftp, in a modular, extensible way) to be run on a host with better
 connectivity, check space constraints of your removable media, and
 then install the package on your Debian box.
 .
 Note on current version: space-checking is not done and spanning
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Re: Games for 1-2 year old child. Recommendations wanted.

[J.H.M. Dassen (Ray)]

On Sun, Oct 05, 2003 at 15:32:38 +0900, Bengt Thure'e wrote:
> I have a small girl at home (1 year old) who is fascinating with a Pippi 
> Longstocking game (with loads of various sound and visual effects) which 
> she loves, but it is for Windows. The highlight in this program is the 
> room with people playing music and dancing.
> 
> I am wondering if there is something like this for the Linux (Debian) 
> environment?

Most of the CBeebies website (http://www.bbc.co.uk/cbeebies/) runs fine in
e.g. Galeon, provided you install the relevant plugins, in particular the
Flash plugin.

HTH,
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Re: default keymap

[J.H.M. Dassen (Ray)]

On Sun, Oct 05, 2003 at 16:25:13 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> How do I change the default keymap to be loaded at boot?
> I tried to run "dpkg-reconfigure console-tools" and change from us to se
> keymap, but still I get the us keymap loaded during boot.

Try
dpkg-reconfigure -plow console-tools console-data console-common

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Re: Games for 1-2 year old child. Recommendations wanted.

[Dan Hunt]

Check out the GCompris package. My children love this.
With the version in the unstable disributrion you can
edit the menu that the game provides, blocking access to the
area's you feel are for older kids. Some of the gcompris
modules depend on math or reading skills. 

My son call's GCompris "wooshy".

apt-get install gcompris

Not too many mindless amusements for kids.

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Re: ppp daemon 0dns-up fails!

[John Hasler]

PLease post your /etc/resolv.conf.
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Re: How to kill X?

[Kent West]

Neo wrote:

On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 13:37, cr wrote:
 

Way back in the days of RedHat 5 or thereabouts, whenever X siezed for any 
reason, I could kill it with Alt-Ctrl-Backspace and end up back in the 
command line.

This is Debian's behaviour also.

However, since I got more sophisticated hardware with an ATX power supply, 
Ctrl-Alt-Backspace turns the machine off (or reboots it), with consequent 
fscking of the drives, which is a pain.   
   

This is odd. I've never heard of such a thing. As someone else 
mentioned, perhaps this is a key combination that your BIOS has reserved 
for a reset, although I've never heard of such a BIOS.

I just had a sieze in X, and Ctrl-Alt-F? had no effect, Ctrl-Alt-Backspace 
was the only key combination that worked. Is there any setting that will 
restore its function of 'kill X but don't reboot the machine'  or any other 
key combination that achieves that?

cr

I did a google and found several people having the same problem; for example

http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/linux/linux-kernel/2002-48/0643.html

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drop down menus in mozilla are tiny.  This is also the case in other
apps.  I am sure there is a system wide setting somewhere but cant work
it out.

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Re: Games for 1-2 year old child. Recommendations wanted.

[Bengt Thure'e]

Ray wrote:
Most of the CBeebies website (http://www.bbc.co.uk/cbeebies/) runs fine in
e.g. Galeon, provided you install the relevant plugins, in particular the
Flash plugin.
Thanks, but it sort of demands an internet connection. I hope I can use 
a very old laptop (Pentium 100), and no internet connection... Just to 
put her somewhere and she can hack and slash at the keyboard... :-)

Dan Hunt wrote:

Check out the GCompris package. My children love this.
Thanks, I will check it out directly.

Not too many mindless amusements for kids.

Unfortunately, but I hope that the Debian-Jr project can come up with 
something...

Thanks for you tips

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Problem Installing Unreal Tournament and Unreal Tournament 2003.

[Joseph Jones]

Hi, this is my first post to the mailing list as a subscriber.

I've been having problems installing Unreal Tournament and Unreal 
Tournament 2003 under Linux. Everything goes fine until it asks me to 
mount the play disk. I already have it mounted, but it refuses to 
recognise it. I read this: 
http://www.thehaus.net/ATHun/rev-ut2k3-linux.shtml and tried mounting a 
write-protected (MS-DOS) floppy, but it didn't help any.

My cd-rom drive mounts as /cdrom. The only changes I've made to this 
system are installing qvwm, xmms, esd, firebird, tools necessary for 
compiling a kernel as per this article: 
http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html, my own 2.4.20 
kernel, nvidia drivers, samba and the packages necessary for running an 
X server. Other than that it's not much different from the Desktop 
option in taskselect.

I've not been using Debian very long, only a couple of weeks.

My thanks in advance.

Joe Jones

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Re: Mplayer eating all CPU

[moseley]

On Sun, Oct 05, 2003 at 05:18:12PM +1300, Paul William wrote:
> you could use the nice command which alters priority of programs your
> run. do a man nice to find out more.

Oh, I see I posted this same question in September.

Sorry, I wasn't clear.  Mplayer is *hanging* eating all CPU.  I click on 
the media in Mozilla, I see a bit of network traffic.  The network 
traffic stops and then the mplayer uses 99% CPU and nothing happens -- 
it will just sit there forever.

I just want to see if anyone else see the same thing to decide if it's 
my setup or mplayer.

Also, I'm using the mplayer plugin for mozilla, so I'd like to figure 
out if that's related or if it's just mplayer.  It seems to be  
movies that cause the problem. 

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[Ben Edwards]

Have been trying to change the size of application menue and text box
fonts for a while now.  i have a 21" monior and the Address/URL bar and
drop down menus in mozilla are tiny.  This is also the case in other
apps.  I am sure there is a system wide setting somewhere but cant work
it out.

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Re: Release statusus

[Colin Watson]

On Sun, Oct 05, 2003 at 02:43:42PM +0200, Neo wrote:
> Hi Colin,
> 
>   so, sumarizing for my situation: it's no use tracking a
> unstable 'release' because it just isn't that: a release, and never 
> will be.

Different people put different values on these things. My laptop runs
unstable quite happily; admittedly that's because I need that for Debian
development, but it gives me minimum time from bug-fix to installation.
My desktop at work runs testing because it's within a fairly safe
corporate network so I don't worry too much about the lack of quick
security updates, and I wanted some things that weren't in stable. My
server at home runs stable because I don't want it to break, I don't
want to spend too much time configuring and reconfiguring it, and it has
to be secure.

>   Then why not take the logical step, pick a kernel release 
> (or combination of linux/hurd/*bsd releases), put a name on it, 
> put it in testing and let it grow to a stable release? This name
> sid just confuses things, in my humble opinion.

Hm? Kernel releases are only a very small part of the development of the
Debian distribution. They aren't suitable for this purpose.

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mutt points to wrong mbox(?)

[ph33rful]

hello friends,

after adding a new user to my testing/stable combo debian box, the new user tries to 
open mutt and receives this error:

/var/mail/$USER: Permission denied (errno = 13)

(the $USER name has been removed)

the $USER name in question is the primary account (the one from the beginning) while 
this new person is, as it's called, new.

is this mutt pointing to the wrong file? i'm assuming so.

how do i go about making mutt point to the correct file?


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Re: mutt points to wrong mbox(?)

[benoit]

Message de [EMAIL PROTECTED], le dimanche 05 octobre :
> how do i go about making mutt point to the correct file?

look in your ~/.mutt/muttrc for a bogus "set mbox=/var/mail/$USER" line

if there is no suche line, you can add one, or use mutt -F



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Re: mutt points to wrong mbox(?)

[benoit]

Message de benoit, le dimanche 05 octobre :
> if there is no suche line, you can add one, or use mutt -F

oops, mutt -f




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Re: Do we really need to worry about viruses (was Re: Anyone else notice that Swen is slowing down?)

[ScruLoose]

On Sun, Oct 05, 2003 at 03:52:08AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Sun, 5 Oct 2003, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> 
> >
> > Given that I live alone with a cat, I still lock my desktop when I walk
> > away for any length of time, set xscreensaver to cut in (and lock)
> > anyway, and require a password for 'sudo' on my personal account.
> >
> Hi Karsten,
> you must have one smart cat to have to password protect your console! ;-)

Well, a friend of mine once had a new kitten BSOD his Windows box by
walking over the keyboard.
Much laughter ensued, and I think he ended up naming the cat Hax0r in
honour of the event.

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Re: Creating Custom CDs

[Nathan Michaels]

> Perhaps I should have explained things a bit better. While Jigdo can
> handle getting all the files and so on, my chief interest is not trying
> to handle all the dependencies by hand, or generating the .jigdo files
> by hand. Is this doable?
I recently installed debian on a laptop that did not have a network card or 
cd-rom drive.  The way I got packages for it was to
apt-get -dy install package
...This downloads packages and their dependencies to the cache without 
installing them.  Of course, this probably only worked for me because I was 
using another computer that I had just installed woody on to download 
everything, so it didn't already meet any of the dependency requirements.  This 
is pretty inelegant, but worked for me.
~Nathan



> On Sun, 2003-10-05 at 16:21, Todd Pytel wrote:
> > On Sun, 05 Oct 2003 16:22:12 +1300
> > Edward Murrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > I've been trying to
> > > assemble a CD, but so far I've either come up with building the
> > > Packages.gz by hand, or just dumping the .deb files into one big
> > > directory on the CD. Surely there is a better way?
> >
> > Yes, you want to use jigdo.
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Looking for backup solutions

[Dan Anderson]

I have a 40 GB hard disk I want to back up to CD.  I figure I could run
dd but the man page was unintelligible.  Can anyone offer any
suggestions?

Thanks in advance,

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Re: Changing system/menu fonts in gnome 2.2 debian

[Neo]

On Sun, 2003-10-05 at 15:53, Ben Edwards wrote:
> Have been trying to change the size of application menue and text box
> fonts for a while now.  i have a 21" monior and the Address/URL bar and
> drop down menus in mozilla are tiny.  This is also the case in other
> apps.  I am sure there is a system wide setting somewhere but cant work
> it out.
> 
Hi Ben,

what helped me most in a similar situation was changing
/etc/X11/XF86Config-4, Section "Monitor", by adding DisplaySize
which gives your monitor size in milimeters. X11 then adjusts your
fonts to a readable size, after a restart.

Sincerely,

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Re: Looking for backup solutions

[Jerome BENOIT]

Have a look to `backup2l' package.

Dan Anderson wrote:
I have a 40 GB hard disk I want to back up to CD.  I figure I could run
dd but the man page was unintelligible.  Can anyone offer any
suggestions?
Thanks in advance,

-Dan




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Re: Looking for backup solutions

[Neo]

On Sun, 2003-10-05 at 18:48, Dan Anderson wrote:
> I have a 40 GB hard disk I want to back up to CD.  I figure I could run
> dd but the man page was unintelligible.  Can anyone offer any
> suggestions?

Hi Dan,

I run 'cd / && tar cvf - . | gzip - > backup.tar.gz' which
makes a compressed file to store somewhere. I think CD's are not
an option for you when your disk is full : 40GB/650MB = 62CD's
(ok, still uncompressed, but even then I would be suprised if
you could get under 25).
Sugestion: store your data separated from your system files
(/var and /home) and backup those. Run dpkg -get-selections gives
your systemfiles that you can restore with a dpkg -set-selctions
after a new install.

Sincerely,

Jan.



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Re: Looking for backup solutions

[Andreas Janssen]

Hello

Dan Anderson (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

> I have a 40 GB hard disk I want to back up to CD.  I figure I could
> run
> dd but the man page was unintelligible.  Can anyone offer any
> suggestions?

Maybe you want to take a look at partimage.

best regards
Andreas Janssen

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Re: mutt points to wrong mbox(?)

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thanks man, fixed it right up!


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Re: Games for 1-2 year old child. Recommendations wanted.

[Andrew Perrin]

On Sun, 5 Oct 2003, Bengt Thure'e wrote:

> Thanks, but it sort of demands an internet connection. I hope I can use
> a very old laptop (Pentium 100), and no internet connection... Just to
> put her somewhere and she can hack and slash at the keyboard... :-)
>

My son has loved emacs for just this application since he was about 11
months old.

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Re: how to build Debian 2.4.20, -21, or -22 kernel package for woody?

[Daniel B.]

I wrote:
...
> > > ... to build locally for woody a Debian kernel
> > > package based on a kernel version from ... unstable?
...
> However, when booting, after these normal messages:
...
>   NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0/SMP for Linux NET 4.0.
>   Journalled Block Device driver loaded
> 
> I got the messages:
> 
>   modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module block-major-22
>   mount: /dev2/root is not a valid block device
...
> 
> So, what kind of "fiddling with initrd" might I need to do?
...

So far, I've been hacking around in the initrd image's scripts to
see where the error occurs (adding a bunch of echo commands).

I added "modprobe -k ide-core" to make sure the IDE driver was loaded, 
but I still got the modprobe block-major-22 errors (as if the kernel 
still doesn't know (or forgets) that block major device number 22 is
handled by that driver).


Can anyone tell me what has changed in the kernel regarding initrd
images between woody and unstable?

Can someone e-mail me a working initrd image from unstable (preferably
for kernel 2.4.22)?  (Maybe tracking down the difference between working 
non-working versions will indicate what has to change.)


Thanks,
Daniel
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Re: mailing list

[Denis Dzyubenko]

On Sun, 5 Oct 2003 11:57:28 +1000,
 Pascal Hakim(PH) wrote to debian users:

>> Has this mailing list had problems in the last couple of days?
>> 
>> Yesterday I found I was not receiving any messages.  Today I discovered I
>> was not subscribed, even though I had not unsubscribed myself.
>> 

Seems that there are some problems with mailing lists at debian.org -
today I received two notifications about bounced messages (btw, why
lists.debian.org send these messages if he think my email server
bounce messages?). Postmaster at e-mail server I am using tell me that
there were no problems with the server, so he thinks problems is
somewhere outside, maybe they are at lists.debian.org ?

Problem occur only with @lists.debian.org, other maillist servers work
without problems.

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Re: Help, OSX vs Linux

[Mike Egglestone]

Quoting Aaron Cimolini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Hey Mike,
> 
> Sounds like you are looking for some weight for your
> argument that debian is the best. For some apps yes!
> But in a situation with these macs you may be better
> off getting a mix of OSX servers and some debian boxes
> for the PCs.
Yeah, I was looking for some weight.  :)
I don't want to have mutliple servers in the lan.
The lan only has around at max 100-200 workstations and
for our purposes one server is more than enough. Which box that is
well.. I'm hoping I can push Debain.
Firstly, the server must support the multiplatform world, which OSX and Linux 
do nicely. I've played with the OSX and just didn't like it. I'll probably dig 
into again and see if it can do what I want it to.
> 
> OS X is not the endallbeall of server OSs but it is a
> huge jump from what OS 9 was. Consider taking a second
> look at it. It may fill your needs perfectly,
> specially with fink  ;-)
I tried this once and I couldn't get it to work. Perhaps I will investigate
again. I would hate to see my employer tie its hands with a commercial product 
when a Opensource solution works just as well. 
I remeber the good ol at ease server, then apple forced everyone to Mac 
Manager. Now, they are forcing everyone to go OSX server because you need 
seperate Mac Managers with OS 9 clients mixed with OSX Clients. What will 
happen in the next few years?
A debian server will support anything today and anything yesterday.
Our workstations have various OS's with various architectures. A dog's 
breakfast really.
The apple staff seem to be stuck on this workgroup thing. Its funny, because 
the "Windows" staff don't have groups with Win9.x/XP machines and they don't 
complain. I guess its all about control.
There are constant little wars going on between the PC and Apple staff, while 
the admins are stuck in the middle. Just trying to find a solution to make 
everyone happy, but which also makes the most sense to the goals of the company.

Cheers,
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.procmailrc

[andun]

How do I make procmail sort out the debian user list?
I've tried:

#Debian user
:0
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debian

But it doesn't work.

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Re: Do we really need to worry about viruses (was Re: Anyone else notice that Swen is slowing down?)

[Monique Y. Herman]

On Sun, 5 Oct 2003 03:52:08 -0400 (EDT), <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> penned:
> On Sun, 5 Oct 2003, Karsten M. Self wrote:
>
>>
>> Given that I live alone with a cat, I still lock my desktop when I walk
>> away for any length of time, set xscreensaver to cut in (and lock) anyway,
>> and require a password for 'sudo' on my personal account.
>>
> Hi Karsten, you must have one smart cat to have to password protect
>your console! ;-) -Kev
> 

Most cats have a keyboard-stomping fetish.

I'm fortunate in that my cat hasn't displayed that behavior (thus far).

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Re: Postgres

[Oliver Elphick]

On Sun, 2003-10-05 at 01:17, Dan Roscoe wrote:
> Hello!
> 
> I'm wondering if anyone has had any problems setting up phpbb2
> (http://phpbb2.com) with PostgreSQL on a woody box.
> 
> I am consistently getting error messages along the lines of 
> 
> 
> Warning: Unable to connect to PostgreSQL server: FATAL 1: IDENT
> authentication failed for user "dan" in /var/www/boards/db/postgres7.php
> on line 79
> phpBB : Critical Error
> 
> Could not connect to the database
...
> Postgres as well as all the web services required are.
> 
> If anyone has any ideas at all, please let me know.  I am trying to
> migrate a small site from one box to another, and this is the only thing
> holding me back right now.

Your authentication failed, so the server refused you access.  You need
an identd server for ident authentication of TCP/IP access.

If you are using ident authentication for access from remote machines,
this is very insecure, since you are effectively trusting the remote
machine to tell the truth.  If PHP is doing a local connection, you
probably need to use md5 (password) authentication, so as to supply the
correct username.  Presumably PHP is running as a different user, and
ident authentication will give the wrong answer any way.

Authentication policies are defined in /etc/postgresql/pg_hba.conf and
can be set according to access method, user and database.

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Re: Games for 1-2 year old child. Recommendations wanted.

[klaus imgrund]

On Sunday 05 October 2003 14:40, Andrew Perrin wrote:
> On Sun, 5 Oct 2003, Bengt Thure'e wrote:
> 
> > Thanks, but it sort of demands an internet connection. I hope I can use
> > a very old laptop (Pentium 100), and no internet connection... Just to
> > put her somewhere and she can hack and slash at the keyboard... :-)
> >
> 
> My son has loved emacs for just this application since he was about 11
> months old.
> 

I know that this is probably flamebait - but is there any specific reason a 
1-2 year old child has to play with a computer?
I know that all the geeks have proof that this actually improves social 
interaction but I am a little old fashioned.

Prost,

Klaus



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Re: cd ripping

[Joachim Fahnenmueller]

On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 10:36:56PM +0100, Antony Gelberg wrote:

> Sorry, I was a bit tired when I wrote my original email.  grip does
> indeed rip with cdparanoia and the errors I described do come from that
> process.  Does that help at all?
> 
> A
> 

I think your CD drive cannot read the CD, but I can't tell why.

Is it a whole CD that can't be read or only a track?
Does the error happen every time with certain CDs, or randomly?
Do you notice anything special about these CDs (copy protected, self 
burned, visibly damaged, ...)?
Can you play these CDs with e. g. xmms, or in a music CD player?
Have you tried with another drive (e. g. CD burner), or with a friend's 
computer?
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Re: Do we really need to worry about viruses (was Re: Anyone else notice that Swen is slowing down?)

[Ron Johnson]

On Sun, 2003-10-05 at 11:14, ScruLoose wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 05, 2003 at 03:52:08AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > On Sun, 5 Oct 2003, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > > Given that I live alone with a cat, I still lock my desktop when I walk
> > > away for any length of time, set xscreensaver to cut in (and lock)
> > > anyway, and require a password for 'sudo' on my personal account.
> > >
> > Hi Karsten,
> > you must have one smart cat to have to password protect your console! ;-)
> 
> Well, a friend of mine once had a new kitten BSOD his Windows box by
> walking over the keyboard.
> Much laughter ensued, and I think he ended up naming the cat Hax0r in
> honour of the event.

Back in the Dark Times, when I was running NT4, my son was a baby.
I locked the computer and let him bash on the keyboard.  Of course,
he crashed it, and made the machine reboot.

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Re: .procmailrc

[Denis Dzyubenko]

On Sun, 5 Oct 2003 20:14:46 +0200,
 ??(a) wrote to Debian User List:

a> How do I make procmail sort out the debian user list?
a> I've tried:

a> #Debian user
a> :0
a> * ^To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
a> debian

a> But it doesn't work.

this should work fine, check procmail log (LOGFILE variable, for more
info see procmailrc(5)).

But, for sorting debian lists it is better to use X-Mailing-List
header.

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Re: .procmailrc

[Philippe Marzouk]

On Sun, Oct 05, 2003 at 08:14:46PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> How do I make procmail sort out the debian user list?
> I've tried:
> 
> #Debian user
> :0
> * ^To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> debian
> 
> But it doesn't work.
> 

I use :

:0
* ^X-Mailing-List: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
.debian-user/


If you want to stick to the To header then, you'd better use that :

* [EMAIL PROTECTED]


HTH,
Philippe


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Re: .procmailrc

[Matthias Hentges]

Am Son, 2003-10-05 um 20.14 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> How do I make procmail sort out the debian user list?
> I've tried:
> 
> #Debian user
> :0
> * ^To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> debian
> 
> But it doesn't work.

Try this:

:0 H
* ^X-Mailing-List.*debian-user.*
debian

Works For Me (TM).

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Re: .procmailrc

[Shane Hickey]

> How do I make procmail sort out the debian user list?

This is what I do, and it works like a charm:

:0:
* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DEBIAN-USER/


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Re: Broken Woody

[Jerome R. Acks]

On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 05:11:04PM -0400, Jack Dodds wrote:
> Help!  I had a working install of Woody on my P4.
> 
> Then (probably showing my ignorance) I tried to install a recent version 
> of Abiword by adding a line specifying /unstable/main to my 
> /etc/apt/sources.list, and (from a characer mode screen) doing an
> 
> apt-get install abiword.
> 
> This resulted in the upgrading of many packges, and a pile of cryptic 
> errors.  In an attempt to fix these I did an
> 
> apt-get -f install
> 
> which produced many illegal instruction messages. I did what I thought 
> was a clean shutdown.  The next time I rebooted, hda3 (my root 
> filesystem) failed its boot-time check and was fixed up.
> 
> Giving up, I restored /etc/apt/sources.list to its original contents 
> (which specifies only stable versions). Then I did an
> 
> apt-get upgrade
> 

By doing this you probably did a partial distribution upgrade to
Debian unstable and changed some basic packages like libc6. If you
want upgrade to unstable, you should do a "apt-get dist-upgrade". To
test the effects of this before doing the dist-upgrade, run "apt-get
--simulate dist-upgrade". 

If all you want to do is install a newer version of a package than
exists in the Debian release, you should try to install a backport of
the package. One place to look for these is http://www.apt-get.org/.

> This got me back more or less to where I started, I think, but now when 
> the system boots, xdm will not run.

I don't use xdm, but look for a xdm-errors or your .xsession-errors
file to get more info on what the problem. 

You may not be back at your starting woody distribution. 
"cat /etc/debian_version" to see what your distribution is reported as.

If you want to try to undo the upgrade, I think you will need to
create a /etc/apt/preferences that contains:

Package: *
Pin: release a=stable
Pin-Priority: 1001

see "man apt_preferences" for more details.

> 
> Also, the "sleep" command produces an "illegal instruction" message.  It 
> is used in various scripts, and so on boot up, tty1 is flooded with 
> these illegal instructions messages so that I can't log in there.  I can 
> do an Alt , log in, and everything looks normal except that xdm 
> won't run.
> 
> Now, I could just go back and reload Woody from scratch (if I were 
> having trouble with Windows, that's what the tech support would 
> undoubtedly recommend!)  Is there a better way?
> 
> Also, was it wrong to add the unstable/main line to sources.list?  The 
> man page for apt-get seems to show that you can request a package from a 
> different release (e.g. unstable) - is this just a theoretical 
> possibility or does it really work?

Yes, but if you don't want to upgrade your distribution to unstable,
you should probably set pin-priorities or run apt-get with options -u
or -s. 

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Re: Games for 1-2 year old child. Recommendations wanted.

[andun]

What about games for 10 year old children?

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Re: .procmailrc

[Hans Gubitz]

:0:
* ^TOdebian-user
/home/NN/Mail/debian

On Sun, Oct 05, 2003 at 08:14:46PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> How do I make procmail sort out the debian user list?
> I've tried:
> 
> #Debian user
> :0
> * ^To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> debian
> 
> But it doesn't work.
> 
> -- 
> Kjetil Ørbekk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 

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Current stability of "testing"?

[stan]

I've got several amchines that I was tracking "testing" on up untill amonth
or so, when I quit doing so because I was unhappy with Gnome 2.2 vs Gnome
1.4, whch seems much ore featurefull, and pretty to me.

In any case, I need to rebuild an old Progeney machine that I use as an
audio processing station, since I want to get newer version of various
tools that I use for that. I tries to install a "testing" distribution last
weekend on a machine that's hardware identical to a couple of the frozen
machines, and really did not wind up with a happy install (for instace I
never got X to work properly, and Gnome was a real mess).

So, whats the consensious on the current state of the "testing" branch?
Should I start over on that machine, and hpe to wind up with a happy
machine, or is there a ebtter option? Hows unstable these days?

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Is 'apt' broken in my system?

[Davi Leal]

Take a look.  "Installed" & "Candidate" is 'none' however "Version Table" is 
1.3.27.1-3


# apt-cache policy apache
  apache:
   Installed: (none)
   Candidate: (none)
   Package Pin: (not found)
   Version Table:
  1.3.27.1-3 989
 500 ftp://ftp.fr.debian.org sid/main Packages
#



I have got problems after two weeks of leaving my Debian GNU/Linux unstable 
(sid) alone.  Now, it warns a lot of dependency issues. I have to go to the 
ftp server and download the files and manually use "dpkg -i" to install it. 
The below commands do not help:
  apt-get update
  apt-get dist-upgrade
  apt-get upgrade

Using another server in /etc/apt/sources.list does not help:
  deb ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian sid main contrib non-free
  deb ftp://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian sid main contrib non-free

I have downloaded the Packages files manually checked it. They are identical 
to the download by 'apt-get update' or 'deselect'.


Getting support form the #debian IRC channel. Just an example, "problem to 
install the apache package":

 apt-get update && apt-get install apache

 simonrvn: I have done it. Anyway, I can repeat it. Let's do it.
 don't bother

 # apt-get update
 Hit http://non-US.debian.org sid/non-US/main Packages
 Hit http://non-US.debian.org sid/non-US/main Release
 Hit http://marillat.free.fr unstable/main Packages
 Hit http://marillat.free.fr unstable/main Release
 Hit http://non-US.debian.org sid/non-US/contrib Packages
 Hit http://non-US.debian.org sid/non-US/contrib Release
 Hit http://non-US.debian.org sid/non-US/non-free Packages
 Hit http://non-US.debian.org sid/non-US/non-free Release
 Hit ftp://ftp.cica.es unstable/main Packages
 Get:1 ftp://ftp.cica.es unstable/main Release
 Hit ftp://ftp.fr.debian.org sid/main Packages
 Ign ftp://ftp.cica.es unstable/main Release
 Hit ftp://ftp.fr.debian.org sid/main Release
 Hit ftp://ftp.fr.debian.org sid/contrib Packages
 Hit ftp://ftp.fr.debian.org sid/contrib Release
 Hit ftp://ftp.fr.debian.org sid/non-free Packages
 Hit ftp://ftp.fr.debian.org sid/non-free Release
 Reading Package Lists... Done
 #

 # apt-get upgrade
 Reading Package Lists... Done
 Building Dependency Tree... Done
 The following packages have been kept back
   console-tools kdelibs-bin kdelibs-data ssh
 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 4 not upgraded.
 #

 ok... so what does this prove?
 that he hasn't read the apt-get manpage :)

 # apt-get install apache
 Reading Package Lists... Done
 Building Dependency Tree... Done
 Package apache has no available version, but exists in the database.
 This typically means that the package was mentioned in a dependency and
 never uploaded, has been obsoleted or is not available with the 
contents
 of sources.list
 However the following packages replace it:
   apache-common
 Ellomir: Package apache has no installation candidate
 #

 simonrvn: bob2: After update & upgrade the 'apache' package is missing

 apt-cache showpkg apache

 Package: apache
 Versions:
 1.3.27.1-3(/var/lib/apt/lists/
ftp.fr.debian.org_debian_dists_sid_main_binary-i386_Packages)

 Reverse Depends:
   backuppc,apache 1.3
   glasnost,apache
   squirrelmail,apache
   ldapexplorer,apache
   libapache-mod-frontpage-mirfak,apache 1.3.0
   zoph,apache
   wwwconfig-common,apache
   www-pgsql,apache
   www-mysql,apache
   webmin-apache,apache
   w3c-markup-validator,apache
   usemod-wiki,apache
   twiki,apache
   tutos,apache
   sympa,apache
   sqwebmail,apache
   squirrelmail,apache
   spip-eva,apache
   spip,apache
   sourceforge,apache 1.3.9
   snui-server,apache
   smb2www,apache
   smarty,apache
   slash,apache
   ...

 # apt-get install apache
 Reading Package Lists... Done
 Building Dependency Tree... Done
 Package apache has no available version, but exists in the database.
 This typically means that the package was mentioned in a dependency and
 never uploaded, has been obsoleted or is not available with the 
contents
 of sources.list
 However the following packages replace it:
   apache-common
 #

 apt-cache policy apache

 # apt-cache policy apache
 apache:
   Installed: (none)
   Candidate: (none)
   Package Pin: (not found)
   Version Table:
      1.3.27.1-3 989
         500 ftp://ftp.fr.debian.org sid/main Packages
 #

 This system has been 'sid' since more than a year ago.

 apt-get install apache=1.3.27.1-3

 # apt-get install apache=1.3.27.1-3
 Reading Package Lists... Done
 Building Dependency Tree... Done
 The following extra packages will be installed:
   apache apache-common
 Suggested packages:
   libapache-mod-auth-mysql
 The following NEW packages will be installed:
   apache apache-common
 0 packages upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 4 not upgraded.
 Need to get 1178kB of archives.
 After unpacking 3592kB of additional disk space will be used.
 Do you want to continue? [Y/n]
 Get:1 ftp://ftp.fr.debian.org sid/main apache-common 1.3.27.1-3 [823kB]
 installing ...

 Why this issue? !

 I have been downloading packages by hand 

Exim filter question

[Mark Maas]

All,
 
I use a exim filter to divide all my email is into 
alphabetic order.
 
In other words sorting every email into the folders 
A, B, C...X, Y, Z. based upon the first letter of the "From:"  
"variable"...
For instance "From: Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" would be sorted in 
to the "M" folder.
 
Now for the fun:
 
Outlook and other email sending programs, 
send: "From: "Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED];nu>".
 
See the difference? Mark and "Mark", so when the 
sorting hits my filters, my filters see a ", and does not get 
filtered...
 
My filter is:
 
if $h_From: begins "a"    then 
save Maildir/.Alphabetic.A/new/    elif $h_From: begins 
"b"    then save Maildir/.Alphabetic.B/new/
 
endif
 
What do I need to correct this?
 
Mark

Re: mailing list

[Richard Kimber]

On Sun, 5 Oct 2003 11:57:28 +1000
Pascal Hakim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/list/bounce-stuff/logs$ grep [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *2003-09* verphandler-2003-09-28.log:A:[EMAIL PROTECTED] has hit the
> breakpoint, marking for removal
> verphandler-2003-09-28.log:A:[EMAIL PROTECTED] has hit the
> breakpoint, marking for removal
> verphandler-2003-09-28.log:A:[EMAIL PROTECTED] has hit the
> breakpoint, marking for removal
> verphandler-2003-09-28.log:A:[EMAIL PROTECTED] has hit the
> breakpoint, marking for removal
> verphandler-2003-09-28.log:A:[EMAIL PROTECTED] has hit the
> breakpoint, marking for removal
> 
> You bounced too many emails, and got removed from the list. It
> sends you a message when you get removed, so if you didn't get
> that either, your mailbox was probably full.

My mail box has never been full. It is emptied very frequently.  (And my
ISP sends a message when it's 75% full and I never got that).  I can only
suspect my ISP had a problem and wrongly bounced messages.

- Richard.
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Mplayer plugin for Galeon

[stan]

Anyone know where I can get mpalyer plugin (preferable as a .deb) tat will
work with Galeon from teestong?
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outlineing program?

[stan]

I remeber a month or so back playing with a nice (Gnome base I think)
outlining program that generated XML files as an output.

But I can't remebr it's name. It may even still be on one of my systems.

Can anyone refresh my memory of the name of this ustility?

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unstable Compaq Evo W6000

[baldyeti]

Hi, I am having a hard time with an SMP system. Yet I am unconvinced
the problem is SMP related. I've installed knoppix to hard disk on
my workstation a work, a dual-Xeon Compaq Evo W6000. It's thus in
effect a debian testing/unstable setup. It hangs more or less randomly
but the freezes I see seem related to network activity. It initially
had kernel 2.4.20 and I have since tried versions 2.4.21 and 22, from
knoppix or stock debian ones - to no avail.
The machine is rock stable under NT4, and is supposedly certified for
linux (well RedHat and SuSE, not explicitly debian). I found a note
on the SuSE site saying "acpi=oldboot" was needed as a boot parameter
for those models, but this has not worked for me. Could it possibly be
a SuSE-specific kernel patch, that debian does not understand? BTW,
given a kernel version, where are all the valid boot parameters documented?
Anyway none of the combinations noacpi/nosmp/nomce lilo boot options
have helped with this unstable machine.
I am hoping someone has tried debian on this beast, and could help.
I can of course provide the hardware details if required. Also,
correct me if this is not an appropriate forum for this type of questions.
Thanks in advance.



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Re: raid1 and lilo second disk doesn't boot - testing

[Alvin Oga]

On Sun, 5 Oct 2003, Rudy Gevaert wrote:

> 
> On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 02:11:22PM -0700, Alvin Oga wrote:
> 
> > soemthing whacky if you have to manually add the disk back in
> > with mdadm ... it thinks its brand new virgin disk ?? vs just needing
> > to have it's new files sync'd to the  disk that just came online
> 
> Somebody just told me that it is normal that you have to add it
> manually.
> 
> Or isn't it ?

for my raid boxes resyncing is all automated ... earn'd my fees that
way 

no manual recreation of the raid array ...
- sometimes its a pain in the butt to get it working right
so after using mdadm or other re-assemble the raid, one tends
to leave it as is and merrrily proceed till the next failure

- time vs $$$ vs frustration .. sometimes better to let it
go ... make sure at least 2 independent redundant backups of the
raid is working  and watch what happens

i assume that you have..
- software raid1 
- "FD" as your partition type
- lilo.conf or grub or other pointing to the /dev/mdxx devices
for booting
- raid is built into the kernel .. not a module
- /etc/raidtab setup up right

- which version of raidtools are you using ??

- test regularly and often and randomly from bare metal

c ya
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Re: Looking for backup solutions - 40GB

[Alvin Oga]

hi ya dan

On Sun, 5 Oct 2003, Andreas Janssen wrote:

> Hello
> 
> Dan Anderson (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
> 
> > I have a 40 GB hard disk I want to back up to CD.  I figure I could
> > run
> > dd but the man page was unintelligible.  Can anyone offer any
> > suggestions?

if you really wanted to use dd, onto another 40GB disks:
dd if=/dev/hda  of=/dev/hdc  bs=1024 

- i highly discourage dd for copying disks/partitions

- if you use different sized disks ... the target disk 100GB
disk will look like a 40GB disks ... 

to backup disks to cd ... you have to use cdwritting sw .. not dd
http://www.Linux-1U.net/CDRW

if you want to backup 40GB of disk onto 650MB cdrom ... you'd need
about  100:1 compression  and if you're 40GB is already mpegs, and 
other compressed files... it wont fit onto cdrom

you might be able to squeeze 40GB onto a 4GB dvd backup media

a brand new 40GB disks is about $50 nowdays... ( thats 1hr of time 
to sit down and figure things out or just buy a 2nd disk )

c ya
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Re: Mplayer plugin for Galeon

[Mario Vukelic]

On Son, 2003-10-05 at 22:30, stan wrote:
> Anyone know where I can get mpalyer plugin (preferable as a .deb) tat will
> work with Galeon from teestong?

See http://marillat.free.fr/


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Re: outlineing program?

[Mario Vukelic]

On Son, 2003-10-05 at 22:32, stan wrote:
> I remeber a month or so back playing with a nice (Gnome base I think)
> outlining program that generated XML files as an output.

'apt-cache search outline' gives me gnome-think


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Re: Mplayer plugin for Galeon

[Naitik Shah]

Try searching apt-get.org for mplayerplug mozilla or something of that
sort..

Naitik.

On Sun, 5 Oct 2003 16:30:42 -0400
stan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Anyone know where I can get mpalyer plugin (preferable as a .deb) tat
> will work with Galeon from teestong?
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> deserve neither liberty nor safety."
>   -- Benjamin Franklin
> 
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Re: .procmailrc

[Christian Borchmann]

so mach ich das:


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alles noch sehr rudimentär, denn ich hab das mit procmail auch erst heute
nachmittag kapiert ;-)


schau dir mal den header der mail an:


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RE: apt damaged need help to fix.

[Mike Kuhar]

> -Original Message-
> From: Dan Hunt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2003 1:29 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: apt damaged need help to fix.
>
>
> Ever do something careless and not know how to fix it?
>
> Early this morning I purposely deleted the .deb files in
> /var/cache/apt/archives .  Problem was I deleted the everything
> up to /var/cache/apt/
> ( Why? The old .deb files are not being deleted
> automatically so I was cleaning up, when I should have been making
> coffee. )
>
> When I run:
> dhunt:/home/dan# apt-get update
> E: Archive directory /var/cache/apt/archives/partial is missing.
> E: Tried to dequeue a fetching object
> E: Tried to dequeue a fetching object 
>
> If you know how I can get "apt-get" back I would appreciate a response
> to the list.
>
> Kind regards
> Dan

I would suggest that you use 'apt-get clean' or 'apt-get autoclean' to
remove packages from /var/cache/atp/archives.

-mk
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Re: Games for 1-2 year old child. Recommendations wanted.

[Jaldhar H. Vyas]

On Sun, 5 Oct 2003, klaus imgrund wrote:

>
> I know that this is probably flamebait - but is there any specific reason a
> 1-2 year old child has to play with a computer?
> I know that all the geeks have proof that this actually improves social
> interaction but I am a little old fashioned.
>

Yes playing outside with other children, reading a book with Pappa and
Mummy or visiting grandparents, etc. are all more worthwhile activities
for small children.  In fact they do us a great service by getting us off
our computers.

But I'd rather my daughter played with computers than watched TV.  She is
not even 2 but already has memorised many advertising jingles.  I know we
live in a consumer society but this is disgusting.

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Re: Root path question

[Bob Proulx]

Steve Doerr wrote:
> I'm confused about root's bash profile.

Let me give it a shot at unconfusing you.

> In vt1,

What *exactly* do you mean by vt1?  To me it means that you are using
the first virtual terminal.  What you get when you don't have a
graphical login manager such as xdm, kdm, gdm.  Or that you switched
to it using ALT-F1 or CNTL-ALT-F1 from the graphical login.

But it says absolutly nothing about whether you logged in as yourself
or as root or as yourself and then did su or sudo to get to a root
prompt.  And those are critical pieces of information.

> the directories /sbin & /usr/local/sbin are excluded from
> the path.

Sounds like you logged in at the text character console using
yourself.  That all sounds very normal.  If using bash/zsh/sh/ksh,
etc. then /etc/profile is sourced followed by any personal environment
files.  (If csh/tcsh then /etc/csh.login is sourced followed by any
personal environment files.)  For bash personal environment files are
the first one of .bash_profile, .profile, found.  In that file if you
want .bashrc sourced at login time then you need to say that there
explicitly as it is not automatic to give you flexibility and
control.  Normally you want the .bashrc sourced and would always say
so there.

In this configuration if you want /usr/sbin:/sbin:/usr/local/sbin in
your path you need to say so expliclitly too.  This is not the default
since only system administrators need those commands and it tends to
confuse the rest.

  PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/sbin:/sbin

> If I su to root within Gnome or KDE in a terminal they
> are there.

The 'su' program knows you are becoming root and adds those paths for
you automatically because normally with a simple su there won't be any
environment loaded.

In 'man su' it says:

   The  current  environment is passed to the new shell.  The
   value of $PATH is reset to /bin:/usr/bin for normal users,
   or /sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin for the super user.  This
   may be changed with the ENV_PATH  and  ENV_SUPATH  defini­
   tions in /etc/login.defs. When using the -m or -p options,
   the users environment is not changed.

> I'm not sure why there isn't a common bash profile for root in vt1 vs. 
> vt7.  Where would the two be located?  Within vt1, will 
> PATH=/dir1:/dir2:/diretc/:$PATH add it permanently?

Hopefully I was able to clear up this confusion.  There is no
difference between vt1 and vt7.  But there is a difference between
logging into the system on vt1 using 'getty' and 'login' and logging
into vt7 using 'kdm' (or xdm or gdm).  In the latter case your
.bash_profile is not run.  In the latter case of the graphical login
your .xsession file has the same place as your .bash_profile does for
character login sessions.  If you are using bash you can use the
following to make your graphical login read your environment profile.
Don't forget to 'chmod a+x ~/.xsession' to make it executable.

  #!/bin/bash --login
  exec x-session-manager  # or fvwm or olvwm or ...

Beware that mistakes in your .xsession or .bash_profile will prevent
you from logging into the system.  Beware that your personal scripts
are not run when using the [xgk]dm if KDE or Gnome is explicitly
selected which really means only run the KDE or Gnome scripts.

I recommend that you install and use 'sudo'.  It allows you to do root
privilege commands without being root all of the time.  Very
convenient.  (E.g.  'sudo addgroup you audio') You will need to
configure /etc/sudoers with 'visudo' to allow yourself root access
first.

Bob


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Re: How to kill X?

[Pigeon]

On Sun, Oct 05, 2003 at 02:42:17AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 11:37:19PM +1200, cr wrote:
> > I just had a sieze in X, and Ctrl-Alt-F? had no effect, Ctrl-Alt-Backspace 
> > was the only key combination that worked. Is there any setting that will 
> > restore its function of 'kill X but don't reboot the machine'  or any other 
> > key combination that achieves that?
> 
> Disable rebooting in the bios?

That'll stop the rebooting... however I have an unpleasant suspicion
that if the box is so wedged that Ctrl-Alt-F? doesn't work,
Ctrl-Alt-Backspace won't work either (I don't intend to try and induce
a seizure to verify this :-) ) - ie. the reason Ctrl-Alt-Backspace
'worked' was that the BIOS caught it. It may still be possible to log in
remotely and shut down; if not the best workaround until you can find
what's causing the seizures might be to use a journalling filesystem
like ext3.

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