Re: Unidentified subject!

[Paul Johnson]

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On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 11:02:12PM -0700, V Veankatesh wrote:
> i want player free as cddb program in winamp

apt-cache search  is your friend.

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sympa: can't create new users

[Paul Johnson]

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I can't seem to create new users or change passwords in sympa.  Or
login.

Here's the log entries from attempting to have wwsympa send me a
password...

Oct  1 23:51:50 ursine wwsympa[13759]: [client ursine.ca] do_sendpasswd([EMAIL 
PROTECTED])
Oct  1 23:51:50 ursine wwsympa[13759]: [client ursine.ca] do_loginrequest
Oct  1 23:51:50 ursine sympa[11588]: Cannot open message file 
/var/spool/sympa/queue/[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Permission denied
Oct  1 23:51:50 ursine sympa[11588]: Unable to create Message object 
/var/spool/sympa/queue/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Oct  1 23:51:50 ursine sympa[11588]: Moving bad file [EMAIL PROTECTED] to bad/


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Abiword

[Oki DZ]

Hi,

I have updated Abiword to 2.0.x; the print to file feature doesn't work.
Is this the case? (I mean, it is not working yet.)

Thanks in advance,
Oki


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Re: apt question: exclude certain packages from upgrading?

At 01 Oct 2003 14:47:58 +0200,
JG wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> Put the package on "hold". Select your package on dselect or aptitude
> and press "=" to put it on hold. Or
> 
> $ echo pptp-client hold | dpkg --set-selections
> 
> This will keep the package at the current version (unless you
> intentionally install a new version)

Thanks this worked like a charm, upgraded and everything.:-)

> 
> You can also assign priorities to certain versions of packages, by
> assigning "Pin" priorities in /etc/apt/preferences . Read
> 
> $ man apt_preferences

Next on my list of research, I noticed it mentioned in a tutorial, but
not enough detail to really get the hang of it.

> Hope this helps,

Very much, thanks again.

rohan


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Re: Anyone else notice that Swen is slowing down?

[Jacob Anawalt]

ScruLoose wrote:

On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 07:56:07PM -0500, Michael D Schleif wrote:
 

What I am saying is -- IMHO -- especially in light of the problems that
I have experienced with Swen, auto-executing virus/worms are only *part*
of the problem.  Social engineering is often scoffed at as a real
threat; but, what we see with Swen is so real looking that people I know
have actually __manually__ clicked on those attachments!
   

Of course, there's also the fact that since they run Windows, they are
of necessity logged in with admin privileges *all* the time, so it only
takes one click to install an executable that then has full access to
the system, including network devices...
 

Even with Windows XP Pro, I work with people who have it set in their 
minds that they'd rather always be an Administrator/Power User to avoid 
the once-in-a-while hassle of typing a password to install a program or 
update than run as a normal user for the most part and be a little more 
protected from these problems.

No they'd rather fume when they have to restore/reinstall or deal with 
the constant annoyingness of their virus scanner that complains if they 
try to send more than one email at a time, or happen to send the same 
message to a few different people.  One of them had his DNS settings 
changed the other day and he coudn't figure out how that had happened. 
It's like it's "cool" to have full control and even "cool" to remove a 
virus.

*boggle*

I think the problem is they worked with Win9x for too long, or often 
think they live in the relatively safe world of late 80's early 90's 
networked computing. It blows me away that others like to work like this 
and want to share the root of their systems to avoid occasional 
permission issues. They really have issues dealing with user/group based 
permissions.

I grew up with Macs and disliked the fact that my desktop was always 
changing (on the other hand I never knew what an IRQ conflict was).

Win9x pretended to keep my files and desktop seperate, but still others 
could 'clean up' and delete my work. There was also the dumbness of 
having 2-3 desktop backgrounds appear as you booted up and logged in.

When I installed my first Linux distro on an x86 I was hooked. That was 
how a computer system should work!

Maybe a few more years and more people will catch on to the idea of 
checking file permissions and learn appreciate them.

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Re: Updating Woody-Prerelease to Woody

[Simon Tod]

 --- Johann Hartwig Hauschild <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote: > Hi.
> I've got the following Problem:
> When Woody was Prereleased, I installed it, and
> added the
> Woody-Discs to the sources.list as soon as they were
> availible
> (and delivered). Now I quite frequently experience
> problems when
> compiling software - building a debian package is
> virtually
> impossible. I was able to pinpoint the source of the
> problem to
> differences between the prerelease and Woody 3.0.
> Now I tried to
> run apt-get update, but that does not recognize the
> prerelease as
> a different release - meaning that I am unable do
> replace all the
> prerelease-Stuff with the real packages.
> Dist-upgrade does not
> work either. Is there a way to do this using apt, or
> am I stuck
> with having to start from scratch?
> 
> Cheers, 
>   Hardy
> -- 
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> Info-Student, Freizeit-Handwerker und Debian-Nutzer
> 


Hi.
You still have the Woody pre-release cd's in your
sources.list? Remove them.
Just point the sources.list to a current Woody ftp
site and away you go with apt-get



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rpm packages - alien

[Uwe Dippel]

I have to install am rpm-package (Radeon driver) in Woody.
Newbie as I am, I found alien to use rpms.
But an apt-get install alien gets me
Package alien has no available version, but exists in the database.
This typically means that the package was mentioned in a dependency and
never uploaded, has been obsoleted or is not available with the contents
of sources.list

A google search only delivered 2 portuguese (!!??) pages.

Any help appreciated,

Uwe




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Re: fetching older packages?

Just like to say thanks for this, I am an apt-get commandline user,
and was thinking it would be nice to have old libraries sorted out at
the same time when upgrading libs and packages.:)

I will be having a closer look at it in the future.

rohan


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Re: NVIDIA drivers

[Wolfgang Lonien]

Sean Harshbarger wrote:

> On Fri, 2003-09-26 at 18:19, Gerard Ceraso wrote:
>> I use the nvidia driver from the nvidia website, the .run file. All it
>> does is compiles and installs the driver.
> 
> Just make sure you have the same gcc version that was used to compile
> the kernel else it will not compile.

You'll find out the compiler version which was used to compile your kernel
with:

cat /proc/version

That one has to fit the version of your C-Compiler, which you can find out
with:

gcc -v

If they are different, you can try to set the default C-Compiler symlink
in /usr/sbin - but I compiled my own kernel and then went on; after that,
everything was fine

HTH,
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Re: Updating Woody-Prerelease to Woody

[Colin Watson]

On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 06:32:05AM +0200, Johann Hartwig Hauschild wrote:
> I've got the following Problem:
> When Woody was Prereleased, I installed it, and added the Woody-Discs
> to the sources.list as soon as they were availible (and delivered).
> Now I quite frequently experience problems when compiling software -
> building a debian package is virtually impossible.

What are these problems?

(By the way, your Mail-Followup-To: line is broken; it claims
[EMAIL PROTECTED] You need to tell mutt your full address.)

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Re: user-level logrotate?

[Henrik Christian Grove]

"Monique Y. Herman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I have a few applications that create log files in my home directory. Is
> there a (simple) way to use logrotate as a normal user?

I see no reason that logrotate should require special privileges for any
but reading and writing it's state file, so try something like:

logrotate -s ~/private-logrotate-status ~/private-logrotate.conf

.Henrik

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Re: rpm packages - alien

[Nick Hastings]

Hi,

* Uwe Dippel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [031002 17:24]:
> I have to install am rpm-package (Radeon driver) in Woody.
> Newbie as I am, I found alien to use rpms.
> But an apt-get install alien gets me
> Package alien has no available version, but exists in the database.
> This typically means that the package was mentioned in a dependency and
> never uploaded, has been obsoleted or is not available with the contents
> of sources.list

I'm pretty sure that alien (version 8.05) is in Woody (I checked
packages.debian.org). So, I have two questions for you:

1. Have you done an "apt-get update" recently?

2. What is in your /etc/apt/sources.list

Cheers,

Nick.

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apt-proxy

[Wolfgang Lonien]

Hi group (or list & group),

I use apt-proxy on unstable here, and the clients use it just fine - *the
first time*.

The next morning, they see no new packages on the proxy machine, even not
after updating/upgrading the proxy, not after apt-proxy-import, not after
setiing the sources.list of the proxy machine to itself.

I went through the docs again and again, but I am missing it somehow. What
did I forget?

Greetings,
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Re: Hardware Compatability

[Martin Jungowski]

Hi,

IIRC VirtualPC emulates a PCI video card, namely some old S3 Trio64. But
I am not sure about this, I have only used VirtualPC once on my
Macintosh.

On topic: Debian will probably not run either. Apparantly, neither
Mandrake nor Redhat are compatible to the VirtualPC-emulated hardware. I
have however never had trouble installing Linux in a VMWare virtual
machine - you may wanna give that a shot.

MJ



On Thu, 2003-10-02 at 05:00, Kent West wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> >To whom this may concern,
> >I tried to install Mandrake 9.2 and Redhat 9 onto a Toshiba Satellite 2400-s201 
> > laptop w/256MB RAM and the processor is 1.6 GHz.  I am trying to run it on Virtual 
> > PC that was downloaded from the Microsoft site.  Everything installs fine, except 
> > when it boots up, X-Windows never loads up and I get an error saying that there is 
> > "No Device".  This is due to Mandrake 9.2 and Redhat 9 not recogizing the Video 
> > Card and the monitor.  The video card device is a "S3 Graphics SuperSavage / 
> > IXC1179".  The monitor is a Toshiba Internal 1024x768 Panel Display. Will Debian 
> > experience this problem?
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> Probably, or worse. But I really don't know. I suspect however (but 
> don't know) that Virtual PC is not presenting an "S3 . . ." card to the 
> OS on top of VirtualPC but rather some "standard" video card. In other 
> words, VPC might present a "Bob's AGP Card" on a Toshiba with an S3, , 
> and it'll present a "Bob's AGP Card" on a Compaq with an ATI. So instead 
> of setting up Linux for an S3 or for an ATI, you'd need to set it up for 
> a "Bob's AGP Card".
> 
> -- 
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> 
> 


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Re: X On Woody With nVidia GeForce4 Fails After Upgrade

[Martin Jungowski]

Hi,

I don't know about XFree 4.2 but there is a XFree 4.3 backport. You can
find the information (amnong lots of other backports) here:

http://www.debianforum.de/wiki/WoodyBackports

I would recommend to install the nvidia drivers too, they're faster than
the XFree4 nv drivers.

MJ




On Thu, 2003-10-02 at 04:17, John Hasler wrote:
> John Spray writes:
> > My experience of XFree 4.1 is that its version of the nv driver doesn't
> > support the geforce 4.
> 
> The client claims (I don't have access to the machine) to have done a stock
> Woody install, had X working fine, done 'apt-get update; apt-get upgrade',
> and had X then fail.
> 
> > You'll want to obtain either XFree 4.2 or the proprietary nvidia drivers.
> 
> Is there a backport?
> -- 
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
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> Elmwood, WI
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Re: 19 and 22 september - did anything unusual happened?

[Martin Jungowski]

Yes, starting 09/19 I have received 9421 (nine thousand four hundred
twenty one) W32/Gibe-F aka Swen messages. I guess that qualifies as
"unusual traffic", doesn't it? ;)



On Wed, 2003-10-01 at 23:20, Grzesiek Sedek wrote:
> Hello,
> Just wanted to know if anyone of you experienced any unusual traffic (
> worms, viruses, scanning, exploits?) around 19 and 22 September?
> Many thanks.
> G.   
> 


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Re: 19 and 22 september - did anything unusual happened?

[Martin Jungowski]

Oh my 28,301 Swen messages? Got me, I only got 9,421. Where can I
sign up to get more? AOL-Forums? *scnr*

MJ



On Thu, 2003-10-02 at 01:24, Greg Folkert wrote:
> On Wed, 2003-10-01 at 17:20, Grzesiek Sedek wrote:
> > Hello,
> > Just wanted to know if anyone of you experienced any unusual traffic (
> > worms, viruses, scanning, exploits?) around 19 and 22 September?
> > Many thanks.
> > G.   
> 
> 
> Ummm, YEAH.  Since Sept 19 I have recieved 28,301 (Twenty Eight Thousand
> Three Hundred and One) Swen messages I'd say *THAT* is unusual
> traffic.


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Re: Debian Desktop for a Joe Average

[Wolfgang Lonien]

Edward Murrell wrote:

> [Debian as a Windoze replacement]

Hi Ed (and Joe of course :-P),

as a replacement for Win, you should try Knoppix. Really. It runs straight
from CD, and it has a very good hardware detection. You can get it at

http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/

After installing it to disk with knx-hdinstall, you might want to change
the /etc/apt/sources.list to unstable, followed by an apt-get update and
apt-get dist-upgrade.
 
> The hardware is as follows;
> Athlon 1600, 256 MB DDR, nForce1 board, nForce1 sound, AGP GF4MX,
> generic networking (Realtek I think).

For the nforce-board (I have one also, tho my wife and me use regular
Debian), get the drivers from the nvidia page. Sound will work out of the
box (even with Knoppix, which uses the i810 drivers), but 3D gaming will be
a bit slow with the XFree 'nv' drivers. The nvidia script makes all the
appropriate changes.

After all the upgrading, you'll have Sid, which works great.

HTH,
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RE: rpm packages - alien

[Rui Nóbrega]

I installed the drivers for a Radeon 9000 on my laptop an Acer Aspire 1600.
I got the information from this site
http://1601lc.tuxfamily.org/english.html

Here is how I did it.

Woody comes with Xfree86 version 4.1.x so i downloaded
fglrx-glc22-4.1.0-3.2.5.i586.rpm from the ati site. 

# alien -d fglrx-glc22-4.2.0-2.9.13.i586.rpm
# dpkg -i --force-overwrite fglrx-glc22_4.2.0-3.9_i386.deb

Backup your current XF86Config-4 file just to be on the safe side.

Then  run the config command:
# fglrxconfig

Answer the questions and a new XF86Config-4 file is generated.

Start Xwindows and it will work fine.

If you need a copy of my XF86Config-4, I'll send it to you.

Rui Nobrega

PS: you should learn Portuguese :) it's easy ... :D

-Original Message-
From: Uwe Dippel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: quinta-feira, 2 de Outubro de 2003 9:13
To: debian user
Subject: rpm packages - alien


I have to install am rpm-package (Radeon driver) in Woody. Newbie as I am, I
found alien to use rpms. But an apt-get install alien gets me Package alien
has no available version, but exists in the database. This typically means
that the package was mentioned in a dependency and never uploaded, has been
obsoleted or is not available with the contents of sources.list

A google search only delivered 2 portuguese (!!??) pages.

Any help appreciated,

Uwe




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Do we really need to worry about viruses (was Re: Anyone else notice that Swen is slowing down?)

[Ron Johnson]

On Wed, 2003-10-01 at 23:17, ScruLoose wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 07:56:07PM -0500, Michael D Schleif wrote:
> > "Karsten M. Self" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003:10:02:00:37:35+0100] scribed:
[snip]
> > That kind of executable -- one that entices a user to click on it -- is
> > just as real a threat to non-Microsoft userland, that I insist that your
> > point is not all inclusive of the threats at hand.  Simply because there
> > is not yet a major, far reaching virus/worm propagating primarily from
> > Linux boxen, does not rule out the existence of a threat . . .
> 
> Most non-MS users are not likely to be logged in as root when they
> check the mail, so whether some virus auto-executes or entices them to
> click on it, the damage is generally going to be pretty well contained.
> 
> It's going to take a _hell_ of a lot of social engineering to convince
> me to su, provide my root password, install and run some program that
> showed up in my inbox. No matter how pretty a message it's packaged
> in. Even assuming that the user getting the infected mail _has_ the
> root password.
> 
> Besides, everything about MS seems designed to actively encourage
> clueless behaviour. The whole system is designed to placate the user,
> to deliver a message of "accept, don't try to understand." Given that
> starting point, social-engineering the user into blindly running one
> _more_ piece of completely mysterious code isn't gonna be too hard.
> 
> Finally, given the long, rich history of dangerous code propagating on
> Windows boxes, the absence of _any_ example of a widespread,
> communicable nasty on _any_ other platform does seem to indicate
> something about the success of the different security models.
> Does it prove that there can never be a nasty virus for Linux? No. Of
> course not.  But it definitely indicates a huge discrepancy in the
> _degree_ of exploitability of different systems.

Given the security model of Unix, we truly do *not* have to worry
about email viruses (or viruses coming through click-thru social-
engineering vectors).

What we *do* have to worry about are:
(1) viruses/trojans/worms/rootkits vectored thru contaminated ftp
mirrors (remember the gnu site being open for 3 months?)
(2) worms/rootkits coming in thru bugs (buffer overflows come 1st
to mind) in daemons listening on TCP & IP ports.

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Re: sympa: can't create new users

[Paul Johnson]

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On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 11:58:26PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
> I can't seem to create new users or change passwords in sympa.  Or
> login.
> 
> Here's the log entries from attempting to have wwsympa send me a
> password...

Never mind..damn cgi script wasn't suid sympa...

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establishing ppp connection as non-root

[Alphonse Ogulla]

Hi all,
I configured ppp successfully using pppconfig and make use of pon/poff 
commands to bring up and bring down the link respectively. However, pon only 
works when ran as root and refuses otherwise.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ pon

please configure /etc/ppp/peers/provider or use a command line argument to use 
another file in /etc/ppp/peers directory.

Is it possible to run pon as non root? Tried changing some parameters in 
/etc/ppp/options and /etc/ppp/peers/provider with little or no success. 
Anyway, if it is possible then how does one go about it. 

Thanks and regards,

Alphonse Ogulla
Nairobi, Kenya

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Re: Anyone else notice that Swen is slowing down?

[Kjetil Kjernsmo]

Well, to respond to the subject first: No, Swen is definately not 
slowing down here... And my attempt to install amavis/clamav was a bit 
of a failure, so I'm seeing a lot of crap... 

On Thursday 02 October 2003 06:17, ScruLoose wrote:
> Most non-MS users are not likely to be logged in as root when they
> check the mail, so whether some virus auto-executes or entices them
> to click on it, the damage is generally going to be pretty well
> contained.
>
> It's going to take a _hell_ of a lot of social engineering to
> convince me to su, provide my root password, install and run some
> program that showed up in my inbox. No matter how pretty a message
> it's packaged in. Even assuming that the user getting the infected
> mail _has_ the root password.

Well, a virus like Swen wouldn't need root access to spread. I don't 
know what Swen does to a Windows machine (and I don't care, I haven't 
got any), but just to annoy people with enormous amounts of e-mail, 
someone could imageinebly write a perl script with its own SMTP-engine. 
If a non-priviliged user was fooled into executing the perl script, it 
could still spread to any platform with Perl installed. 

Indeed, it is unlikely that such a virus would make any significant 
impact on the system, unless of course, it was then able to exploit a 
local vulnerability to gain root (or gid 'games', I love those 
upgrades! :-) ). However, most users have their most important 
documents in their home dir anyway, so a virus deleting those would do 
real damage anyway, and it would do real damage to Linux' reputation as 
being more secure.

Scenario: A perl script deleting all the files in the homedir of 
infected users, spreading to all the contacts that is in user's 
addressbooks. This would likely include all the homedirs of all the 
users in an organization:

PHB: Sysadmin, what's happening?
Sysadmin: A simple virus. It didn't damage the system, we're running as 
normal.
PHB: What do you mean, didn't damage the system, it deleted all my 
files!?!

The PHB is not going to care a lot for the integrity of the system once 
his files are all gone, his perception of damage is going to be very 
different from yours. 


>Besides, everything about MS seems designed to actively encourage
>clueless behaviour.

I agree, and this is the major point that we have to ensure as MS 
marketshare starts dropping and we start taking over the desktop, Linux 
users are more clued. A company starting migration to Linux must 
realize that for their own security, they have to train their employees 
better than they did with MS systems. 

Anyway, I think the main technical strength lies in that a lot of 
seemingly unimportant fixes are given attention, so that there will not 
exist many possibilities to execute code unless the user knows about 
it. 

Cheers,

Kjetil
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Re: dpkg slightly bent

[cr]

On Wed, 01 Oct 2003 21:53, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 09:26:14PM +1200, cr wrote:
> > I had a crash while using Kpackage last night (nothing to do with
> > software, it's a hardware fault).  I'm up and running again after much
> > fscking, but  now Kpackage (or rather, dpkg which it calls) won't
> > work.I get the message   'failed to open /var/lib/dpkg/available -
> > no such file or directory'.
>
> 'dselect update' will refetch it.
>
> Cheers,

Thanks!   Worked perfectly!

cr


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Re: Base system

[cr]

> On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 01:56:22PM -0500, John Foster wrote:
> > Note: The first package that you should install from areas that are not
> > "reqiured" ; even if you are trying to maintain a small file system is
> > 'mc' (midnight commander) it will be your friend :-)
>

  8-)

I re-installed Debian last week, this time I settled for what Tasksel gave 
me, intending to install the rest later, and sure enough, the *very first 
app* that I noticed the absence of was mc.   

cr
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magicdev working fine with CD-ROM, not DVD-ROM though

[Martin Jungowski]

Hi,

Here's the deal: I installed magicdev on my Debian unstable, GNome 2.2
and set it up so that everytime I put in a CD, it should automount and
start the file manager to display its contents.

And to my surprise, it's working just fine - with my CD-RW. I have two
drives, an ATAPI CD-RW that is running in SCSI-emulation (/dev/hdd ->
/dev/scd0) and a Pioneer SlotIn SCSI DVD-ROM (/dev/scd1) hooked up to an
Adaptec 2940U. Whenever I insert a data CD-ROM into my DVD-ROM, nothing
happens. If I put that very same CD into my CD-RW, it automounts just
fine within seconds.

What's the deal? Does magicdev not support native SCSI drives? Is it a
problem with that specific Pioneer DVD-ROM/SCSI-Controller or what is
it?

Thanks in advance
MJ


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Re: rpm packages - alien

[Martin Jungowski]

Hi,

"apt-get update" should do the trick and do not forget to add the Debian
FTP-Server (or any mirror nearby) to your /etc/apt/sources.list.

MJ


On Thu, 2003-10-02 at 10:13, Uwe Dippel wrote:
> I have to install am rpm-package (Radeon driver) in Woody.
> Newbie as I am, I found alien to use rpms.
> But an apt-get install alien gets me
> Package alien has no available version, but exists in the database.
> This typically means that the package was mentioned in a dependency and
> never uploaded, has been obsoleted or is not available with the contents
> of sources.list
> 
> A google search only delivered 2 portuguese (!!??) pages.
> 
> Any help appreciated,
> 
> Uwe
> 
> 
> 


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Re: freeswan @#$@#$

[Roman Joost]

On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 06:22:53PM -0400, Mark Roach wrote:
> Does anyone know the status of the freeswan packages in unstable? I have
> tried them against both the debian and pristine versions of 2.4.21 and
> 2.4.22 with no success. Has anyone gotten this to work properly? I like
> to keep my kernels packaged with make-kpkg and I would like to avoid
> using freeswan's own build system.
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
I use the the unstable freeswan with an 2.4.20 kernel on my sid box,
since i converted the older ipsec.conf to the newer one. But i still
have problems with the newer frewswan. The configuration is horrible.
Well, it works for me actually ... 

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Re: establishing ppp connection as non-root

[Andreas Janssen]

Hello

Alphonse Ogulla (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

> Is it possible to run pon as non root? Tried changing some parameters
> in /etc/ppp/options and /etc/ppp/peers/provider with little or no
> success. Anyway, if it is possible then how does one go about it.

Add your user account to the "dip" group to make it work.

best regards
Andreas Janssen

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Re: establishing ppp connection as non-root

[Simon Tod]

 --- Alphonse Ogulla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi
all,
> I configured ppp successfully using pppconfig and
> make use of pon/poff 
> commands to bring up and bring down the link
> respectively. However, pon only 
> works when ran as root and refuses otherwise.
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ pon
> 
> please configure /etc/ppp/peers/provider or use a
> command line argument to use 
> another file in /etc/ppp/peers directory.
> 
> Is it possible to run pon as non root? Tried
> changing some parameters in 
> /etc/ppp/options and /etc/ppp/peers/provider with
> little or no success. 
> Anyway, if it is possible then how does one go about
> it. 
> 
> Thanks and regards,
> 
> Alphonse Ogulla
> Nairobi, Kenya
> 
> -- 
> 

To use pon/poff as non-root you need to add users to
the 'dip' group. You should be able to do this through
the adduser option in pppconfig



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Re: Updating Woody-Prerelease to Woody

[Johann Hartwig Hauschild]

Moin, Simon.
> 
> Hi.
> You still have the Woody pre-release cd's in your
> sources.list? Remove them.

They are long gone from there.

> Just point the sources.list to a current Woody ftp
> site and away you go with apt-get
> 
That's what I would do, if I had something bigger than a 56k
Modem. Apting via Modem is not really going to be fun.

cheers, 
Hardy

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Re: Updating Woody-Prerelease to Woody

[Johann Hartwig Hauschild]

Moin, Colin.
> On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 06:32:05AM +0200, Johann Hartwig Hauschild wrote:
> > I've got the following Problem:
> > When Woody was Prereleased, I installed it, and added the Woody-Discs
> > to the sources.list as soon as they were availible (and delivered).
> > Now I quite frequently experience problems when compiling software -
> > building a debian package is virtually impossible.
> 
> What are these problems?
>
For one thing, dpkg-buildpackage won't work - it won't build the
dependancies. Then I noticed, that the gcc I use apparently is
prerelease, but that I can fix by hand. Trouble is, I don't know
how many packages differ, and I would like them all to be from
the same Release.

> (By the way, your Mail-Followup-To: line is broken; it claims
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] You need to tell mutt your full address.)
> 
Nearly. I need to tell Mutt I subscribed. Done.


cheers, 
Hardy
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Re: establishing ppp connection as non-root

[Rodrigo Agerri]

That remarkable Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 12:36, Alphonse Ogulla wrote:
> Hi all,
> I configured ppp successfully using pppconfig and make use of pon/poff 
> commands to bring up and bring down the link respectively. However, pon only 
> works when ran as root and refuses otherwise.

run pppconfig, choose "change the connection" option; it will appear your ISP 
configuration, go into "advanced options" and select "add user". 

Add the user you want to use pon/poff. 

cheers
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City University, London
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New OpenSSL installed -- recompilation required?

[Lukas Ruf]

Dear all,

after I have installed the latest libssl, do I need to re-compile
anything that makes use of libssl?  Concrete examples for me are:
- OpenSSH
- Mod_SSL

The reason I am asking for, on my server I have OpenSSH and Apache
"hand-tailored" to fit our needs.  However, for compile-options, I
make use of the ones submitted with each as default.

Thanks for any enlightenment.

wbr,
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Printing to an Oki C5100n

[Raúl Alexis Betancort Santana]

 Hi all, I have just purchased an Oki C5100n, a color laser printer
with network capabilities, I'm able to access the ipp server of the
printer from my cups server without any problem, but it seems like the
C5100n model only accept GDI (windows) raster files inside a HJF (HP
Job File) one, the C5300n one supports Postcript III, but this one no
:(.
 Does anynome knows where to find information about the HiperC
language (it appears to be the raster language it uses) ?, has anyone
be success on using this printer under Linux ?
 If answers are no, does anyone knows if it is posible to write a
program using the libwine libs to be able to use the .DLL's of the
driver from windows? I mean something like doing a RIPing daemon that
accepts PS, PDF or GDI raster inputs and return me the HyperC raster
output to be send to the device using the .dll's files from the
windows driver.

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gv segfaulting

[Sridhar M.A.]

I am currently running sarge. When I wanted to view a ps file using gv,
it segfaulted. Then I ran gv without any filename and got this message:

$ gv
Warning: Representation size 2 must match superclass's to override
internalWidth
Segmentation fault

Has anyone  else noticed this? Any suggestion to get it working again.

Regards,

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Re: rpm packages - alien

[Roberto Sanchez]

Rui Nóbrega wrote:

# alien -d fglrx-glc22-4.2.0-2.9.13.i586.rpm
# dpkg -i --force-overwrite fglrx-glc22_4.2.0-3.9_i386.deb
Don't forget:
# cd /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod
# ./make.sh
# cd ..
# ./make_install.sh
Backup your current XF86Config-4 file just to be on the safe side.

Then  run the config command:
# fglrxconfig
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Re: apt-proxy

[Roberto Sanchez]

Wolfgang Lonien wrote:
Hi group (or list & group),

I use apt-proxy on unstable here, and the clients use it just fine - *the
first time*.
The next morning, they see no new packages on the proxy machine, even not
after updating/upgrading the proxy, not after apt-proxy-import, not after
setiing the sources.list of the proxy machine to itself.
I went through the docs again and again, but I am missing it somehow. What
did I forget?
Greetings,
wjl
From /etc/apt-proxy/apt-proxy.conf:

# Maximum frequency of Packages/etc. updates from back end (minutes)
# Keep high to speed things up.
BACKEND_FREQ=240
Check to make sure you do not have this set too high.  I.e., mine is set 
at 4 hours, to after an update by any client, the server won't refresh 
the archive for 4 hours.  If your is set really high, that may be the 
cause of the problem.

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Re: gv segfaulting

[Lukas Ruf]

> Sridhar M.A. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-10-02 14:27]:
>

> I am currently running sarge. When I wanted to view a ps file using gv,
> it segfaulted. Then I ran gv without any filename and got this message:
> 
> $ gv
> Warning: Representation size 2 must match superclass's to override
> internalWidth
> Segmentation fault
> 
> Has anyone  else noticed this? Any suggestion to get it working again.
> 

search the archives.  This has been handled several times already.

wbr,
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Re: Updating Woody-Prerelease to Woody

[Colin Watson]

On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 12:29:08PM +0200, Johann Hartwig Hauschild wrote:
> Moin, Colin.
> > On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 06:32:05AM +0200, Johann Hartwig Hauschild wrote:
> > > I've got the following Problem:
> > > When Woody was Prereleased, I installed it, and added the Woody-Discs
> > > to the sources.list as soon as they were availible (and delivered).
> > > Now I quite frequently experience problems when compiling software -
> > > building a debian package is virtually impossible.
> > 
> > What are these problems?
> 
> For one thing, dpkg-buildpackage won't work - it won't build the
> dependancies.

I think I meant something more like "could we see a transcript of what
you're doing and the error messages"? Unsatisfied build-dependencies
could be anything.

> Then I noticed, that the gcc I use apparently is prerelease, but that
> I can fix by hand.

Debian gcc packages are often technically prereleases (due to the
problems of supporting gcc across many architectures).

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Re: Anyone else notice that Swen is slowing down?

[John Hasler]

Kjetil writes:
> Scenario: A perl script deleting all the files in the homedir of infected
> users, spreading to all the contacts that is in user's addressbooks. This
> would likely include all the homedirs of all the users in an
> organization...

Unless the admins were sensible and had mounted /home noexec on all company
machines.

BTW what Linux email software allows users to run executable attachments by
clicking on them?
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does debian xfree support my video?

[skippi]

Greetings all.

I have acquired a new motherboard.  It's an Intel D865GBF.  The onboard video 
controller is Intel Extreme Graphics 2, 82865G Graphics and Memory Controller 
Hub, 865G chipset.  Is this supported under the Xfree that comes with Woody?  
Or am I going to be having to do lots of building from source?  I have found a 
lead on this at http://www.xfree86.org/~dawes/845driver.html

Help please!!!  Thanks much in advance.

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Re: 802.11(b|a|g) cards in Linux

[BruceG]

On Wednesday 01 October 2003 23:50, Alex Malinovich wrote:
> I've been looking more at getting a wireless card for my laptop lately
> as my university is now nearly 100% covered with wifi access. I know
> that there is already good support for 802.11b cards available, but I'd
> prefer to go with something more modern. Preferably either a 802.11g
> card, or a combo 802.11a/b card. But I'm wondering how good the support
> I can expect is. Is anyone successfully using any combo cards or a g
> card in Linux? Any particular things to look out for? Recommended
> brands, chipsets, etc?

Look for the MadWiFi project. I was able to succesfully install and use a 
Linksys Wireless A+G PCI adapter in my desktop running SuSE 8.2 and madwifi 
drivers from CVS. There are some people on the list that have installed A/B/G 
cards in laptops, and some who are running Debian - so it is doable.

I ended up pulling the card out of my desktop and going wired Ethernet as the 
distance between my desktop and my WAP is a bit far and goes through a few 
walls. SIgnal strength was low and speed was low. I'm thinking of centrally 
locating my WAP this weekend and re-installing the Wireless A+G card again. 

Hmmm, project of the weekend. Either go wireless (again) or try to get Debian 
Woody running on my desktop. I couldn't quite figure out Alsa last time. 


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Re: Debian Desktop for a Joe Average

[BruceG]

On Thursday 02 October 2003 04:03, Wolfgang Lonien wrote:
> Edward Murrell wrote:
> > [Debian as a Windoze replacement]
>
> Hi Ed (and Joe of course :-P),
>
> as a replacement for Win, you should try Knoppix. Really. It runs straight
> from CD, and it has a very good hardware detection. You can get it at
>
> http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/
>
> After installing it to disk with knx-hdinstall, you might want to change
> the /etc/apt/sources.list to unstable, followed by an apt-get update and
> apt-get dist-upgrade.
>
> > The hardware is as follows;
> > Athlon 1600, 256 MB DDR, nForce1 board, nForce1 sound, AGP GF4MX,
> > generic networking (Realtek I think).
>
> For the nforce-board (I have one also, tho my wife and me use regular
> Debian), get the drivers from the nvidia page. Sound will work out of the
> box (even with Knoppix, which uses the i810 drivers), but 3D gaming will be
> a bit slow with the XFree 'nv' drivers. The nvidia script makes all the
> appropriate changes.
>
> After all the upgrading, you'll have Sid, which works great.
>
> HTH,
> wjl aka Wolfgang Lonien
> --
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Thanks for the tips. I consider myself Joe Average. I've run Mandrake and SuSE 
- but have had problems getting everything just right in Debian Woody. I also 
have a Knoppix CD - so might just try the Knoppix to hard disk route.

Is there a FAQ on how to change the /etc/apt/sources.list to unstable?


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Why does modem light keep on flashing

[Ray Curd]

Hello

I'm new to networking and so far, with the help of the excellent 
tutorials and HOWTOs, I've set up my network on a box with Mandrake 9.1 
as firewall/internet gateway with iptables/masquerading  and the 
stronger firewall from TrinityOS. I then have my main Debian box and a 
Win XP box. Everything works fine and all boxes can use the internet. 
I'm now studying the iptables documentation to try to understand what 
I'm doing with the intention to set up the firewall m/c on Debian in the 
future.

In the meantime I have noticed on several occasions the lights on my 
modem and on my network switch flashing, for a period of many minutes, 
when I am not carrying out any net activity apart from my email, and 
when I check that no new messages are arriving. The lights on the switch 
indicate that the activity is on the link to the Windows box although 
again checking that box shows  the counts on the network link increasing 
but nothing else as far as I can tell.

Now I would like to monitor this activity to see what it is, AND I want 
to do this from the relative safety of my linux m/c. Can anyone advise 
me, bearing in mind my present knowledge of networking, how I might set 
about this.

As usual all help will be greatly appreciated.

Ray Curd.

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Re: Anyone else notice that Swen is slowing down?

[Kjetil Kjernsmo]

On Thursday 02 October 2003 15:02, John Hasler wrote:
> Unless the admins were sensible and had mounted /home noexec on all
> company machines.

True. But you run the risk of making a lot of unpriviliged power users 
very angry if you do that. There are ways to solve it, but it can get 
rather messy. But I think I'll run home to mom and dad and do that on 
their machine... :-) 

> BTW what Linux email software allows users to run executable
> attachments by clicking on them?

I think that's the wrong question to ask... I think the question is 
"will Linux vendors obey a market that wants executeable files to be 
executed from email software if the user clicks on it?" Gotta think 
like a PHB now, you know... :-) 

Best,

Kjetil
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Re: Anyone else notice that Swen is slowing down?

[Colin Watson]

On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 08:02:00AM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
> Kjetil writes:
> > Scenario: A perl script deleting all the files in the homedir of
> > infected users, spreading to all the contacts that is in user's
> > addressbooks. This would likely include all the homedirs of all the
> > users in an organization...
> 
> Unless the admins were sensible and had mounted /home noexec on all
> company machines.

What's the point of noexec? You can say '/lib/ld-linux.so.2 myprogram'
even if it isn't a script that you can just run using the scripting
language's interpreter.

> BTW what Linux email software allows users to run executable
> attachments by clicking on them?

I thought mh used to, once upon a time (although if I'm even remembering
the right program at all this has long been fixed).

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Re: gv segfaulting

[Asbjørn Sæbø]

On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 02:33:04PM +0200, Lukas Ruf wrote:
> > Sridhar M.A. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-10-02 14:27]:

> > I am currently running sarge. When I wanted to view a ps file using gv,
> > it segfaulted. [...]

> search the archives.  This has been handled several times already.

Where?  I have searched the archives 
(http://lists.debian.org/search.html, debian-user and debian-testing), 
and have not found anything.

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Re: Why does modem light keep on flashing

[John Spray]

Ray Curd wrote:

The lights on the switch indicate that the activity is on the link to 
the Windows box
Windows likes to periodically announce itself to the network at large, 
as samba does.

Now I would like to monitor this activity to see what it is, AND I 
want to do this from the relative safety of my linux m/c. Can anyone 
advise me, bearing in mind my present knowledge of networking, how I 
might set about this. 
Packet sniffers are your friends.  I like snort - it's an IDS, but 
includes a handy packet sniffer.  Something like "snort -dvi ppp0" on 
your firewall box, and see what ports the windows box is talking on.  
You'll probably just see packets containing the machine's name and so 
forth.  Another popular packet sniffer is tcpdump.

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Re: gv segfaulting

[Lukas Ruf]

> Asbj?rn S?b? <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-10-02 16:03]:
>

> On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 02:33:04PM +0200, Lukas Ruf wrote:
> > > Sridhar M.A. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-10-02 14:27]:
> 
> > > I am currently running sarge. When I wanted to view a ps file using gv,
> > > it segfaulted. [...]
> 
> > search the archives.  This has been handled several times already.
> 
> Where?  I have searched the archives 
> (http://lists.debian.org/search.html, debian-user and debian-testing), 
> and have not found anything.
> 

strange. 

However, it helped upgrading, at least for me (don't remember which
package but assuming 'gv').

wbr,
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Re: Why does modem light keep on flashing

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On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 02:28:13PM +0100, Ray Curd wrote:
> In the meantime I have noticed on several occasions the lights on my 
> modem and on my network switch flashing, for a period of many minutes, 
> when I am not carrying out any net activity apart from my email, and 
> when I check that no new messages are arriving. The lights on the switch 
> indicate that the activity is on the link to the Windows box although 
> again checking that box shows  the counts on the network link increasing 
> but nothing else as far as I can tell.

Have you scanned for viruses recently?  It might be one of those
dialup systems that keeps sending me swen lately.

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Re: e1000 cannot bring up intel pro/1000 MT interface

[David Z Maze]

Praveen Kallakuri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> i have a dell precision 360 with an Intel® PRO/1000 MT Gigabit6
> Ethernet LOM. i learned that e1000 is the driver and got it by
> compiling kernel 2.4.22. i inserted aprop entries in
> /etc/network/interfaces and in modutils/ and updated
> modules.conf.

What exactly did you do?

> when i try to bring up the interface, this message
> appears on the console
>
> e1000: eth0 NIC Link is up 100Mbps full duplex
>
> without any obvious error message. but when i check ifconfig, i get
> all the lines in a standard interface display except the line with the
> IP address and mask. route is empty

That sounds consistent with the state where you've installed a kernel
driver for a network interface, but not explicitly assigned an IP
address to it.  Seeing the relevant fragment from
/etc/network/interfaces would be helpful, I think.

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Re: Debian Desktop for a Joe Average

[Kent West]

BruceG wrote:

Is there a FAQ on how to change the /etc/apt/sources.list to unstable?
 

Just edit it with your favorite editor (I use nano); you'll probably 
have about three lines in it, like so:

deb ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free
deb ftp://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib 
non-free
deb http://security.debian.org stable/updates main contrib non-free

Leave the "security" line alone, but duplicate the other two, and change 
the word "stable" to "unstable", like so:

deb ftp://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable/non-US main contrib 
non-free  # <-- new line
deb ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free   
 # <-- new line
deb ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free
deb ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free
deb http://security.debian.org stable/updates main contrib non-free

(The preferred sources should be listed first.) Now run "apt-get update" 
followed by "apt-get dist-upgrade", and you should be in business.

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Re: Re: Maildir with uw-imapd

[Shane Hickey]

>> Shane Hickey wrote:
>>Ok, now to my question.  I can't seem to find anywhere in the docs how
>>to change uw-imapd to deliver to ~/Maildir.  It's delivering mail just
>>fine at this point to ~/mbox, but I'm accessing my mail from multiple
>>clients, and if I leave a client open, I get mailbox locking problems.


>As far as your problem, this is what I found in the documentation:
>
>From /usr/share/doc/uw-imapd-ssl/README.Debian.gz:
>
>5. mbox driver
>
>
>This package has the mbox driver enabled which means that if there is a
>file in
>your $HOME directory called mbox it will be treated as your inbox
>and all mail in your system inbox (/var/mail/) will
>immediately be transfered there on access.
>
>My guess is that the mere existence of ~/mbox causes uw-imap to use it.
>If you remove the mbox file, it won't use it anymore. I run uw-imap for
>my users in a lab at school and all mail ends up in ~/mail/. That
>appears to be the default for uw-imap.
>
>Hope this helps,
>
>-Roberto 

Well, I removed the ~/mbox file, and now all the mail goes to
/var/mail/username, which is to be expected, however I can't get it to
deliver to ~/Maildir.  Is there a config file for uw-imapd that I need
to edit, to tell it to deliver to Maildir?  

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Re: Anyone else notice that Swen is slowing down?

[Ron Johnson]

On Thu, 2003-10-02 at 08:02, John Hasler wrote:
> Kjetil writes:
> > Scenario: A perl script deleting all the files in the homedir of infected
> > users, spreading to all the contacts that is in user's addressbooks. This
> > would likely include all the homedirs of all the users in an
> > organization...
> 
> Unless the admins were sensible and had mounted /home noexec on all company
> machines.

Better would be to run Amanda (or something similar) clients on each
desktop machine, and back up each user's /home each night onto a 
central server's tape drive.

> BTW what Linux email software allows users to run executable attachments by
> clicking on them?

None, now.

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Re: build drm modules for X 4.3 fails on kernel 2.4.23-pre5

[David Fokkema]

On Wed, 2003-10-01 at 22:44, Micha Feigin wrote:
> I tried to build the latest drm modules from mach64 dri cvs using
> make-kpkg. It worked for kernel 2.4.23-pre4 but for kernel 2.4.23-pre5 I
> got the folowing error:
> 
> dh_gencontrol
> dpkg-gencontrol: error: source paragraph in control info file is missing
> Source line
> dh_gencontrol: command returned error code 6400
> make[2]: *** [binary-modules] Error 1
> make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/modules/drm-mach64'
> make[1]: *** [kdist_image] Error 2
> make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/modules/drm-mach64'
> Module /usr/src/modules/drm-mach64 failed.
> Hit return to Continue

Well... go to /usr/src/modules/debian and edit control.m4 to include:

Source: drm-trunk-module-KVERS

If you already have a line like
 
Package: drm-trunk-module-KVERS

So, if the package name is different, well you'll know what to do. Make
sure that the Source line is in included in the first paragraph, not the
second. I put it directly after the Standards-Version line.

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Re: Debian Desktop for a Joe Average

[Ron Johnson]

On Thu, 2003-10-02 at 08:24, BruceG wrote:
> On Thursday 02 October 2003 04:03, Wolfgang Lonien wrote:
> > Edward Murrell wrote:
> > > [Debian as a Windoze replacement]
> >
> > Hi Ed (and Joe of course :-P),
[snip]
> Thanks for the tips. I consider myself Joe Average. I've run Mandrake and SuSE 
> - but have had problems getting everything just right in Debian Woody. I also 
> have a Knoppix CD - so might just try the Knoppix to hard disk route.
> 
> Is there a FAQ on how to change the /etc/apt/sources.list to unstable?

Don't go directly from stable to unstable!!  Too radical

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Re: GCC 3.3 Questions: Should I Install? Should I install with ProPolice?

[David Z Maze]

Dan Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I am trying to figure out Linux with the help of O'Reilly's /Running
> Linux/.  It recommends that I do not install new versions of compilers
> unless absolutely necessary just in case things get broken by the new
> version of the compiler.  

That sounds like FUD to me, unless maybe you're running something like
Slackware (or maybe Gentoo) where you're compiling new versions of
system programs frequently.  On i386, I don't think there have been
major problems where a compiler bug crippled unstable, even though the
compiler updates fairly frequently.

> I really want to install GCC 3.3 with ProPolice
> (http://www.research.ibm.com/trl/projects/security/ssp/) enabled by
> default.  Will this really make compiling programs problematic?

In theory, if the patch works, you should be fine.  From their
description of the patch, if it works as advertised, it shouldn't
destroy your ability to compile things, and you can turn it off with a
command-line switch.

> Can I keep two versions of GCC on my system just in case it breaks
> things? How would I go about doing this?

If I were doing this, I'd install the modified gcc in a subdirectory
of /usr/local (possibly using stow), give the top-level gcc binary a
different name (gcc-pp), and then *maybe* install a symlink from
/usr/local/bin/gcc to that.  Then you'd still have the normal Debian
gcc available in case something broke.

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Re: Diff btw GeForce4 and RIVA TNT2?

[Hugo Vanwoerkom]

Hi all!

Thanks for those answers!

So... apt-getted xscreensaver-gl. gears -fps -delay 0
indeed is the most straightforward app. to show the
difference.

Left monitor, with the GeForce4: 155 fps.
Right monitor, with RIVA TNT2: 50 fps.

Quod erat demonstrandum!

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Re: establishing ppp connection as non-root [solved]

[Alphonse Ogulla]

On Thursday 02 October 2003 12:36, Alphonse Ogulla wrote:
> Hi all,
> I configured ppp successfully using pppconfig and make use of pon/poff
> commands to bring up and bring down the link respectively. However, pon
> only works when ran as root and refuses otherwise.
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ pon
>
> please configure /etc/ppp/peers/provider or use a command line argument to
> use another file in /etc/ppp/peers directory.

This indicates that files in /etc/ppp/peers directory are unaccessible

>
> Is it possible to run pon as non root? Tried changing some parameters in
> /etc/ppp/options and /etc/ppp/peers/provider with little or no success.

Yes. In fact, one need not to change anything in /etc/ppp/peers directory

> Anyway, if it is possible then how does one go about it?

As root, include the user id to run the command pon in group 'dip'. If it so 
happens that that uid is already logged on, then exit the shell and login 
again before running pon (so as for /etc/group changes to take effect). That 
is all. /etc/pppusers and /etc/dialout files weren't necessary.

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Re: Anyone else notice that Swen is slowing down?

[John Hasler]

Colin Watson writes:
> What's the point of noexec? You can say '/lib/ld-linux.so.2 myprogram'
> even if it isn't a script that you can just run using the scripting
> language's interpreter.

The sort of user most likely to be taken in by something like Swen is also
the sort least likely to be able to work around noexec.  It's aimed at
clueless users such as clerks and executives, not power users.
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Re: dpkg slightly bent

[Colin Watson]

On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 11:23:51PM +1200, cr wrote:
> On Wed, 01 Oct 2003 21:53, Colin Watson wrote:
> > 'dselect update' will refetch it.
> 
> Thanks!   Worked perfectly!

Good stuff. Hello to you a day in the future, by the way ;)

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seeking mailing list from SQL

[martin f krafft]

I am looking for a mailing list manager that can pull a single
list's membership list from a configurable SQL datasource. Nothing
like sympa, which can either completely live in a SQL database, or
not at all. No, I want to be able to say:

  the subscriberlist for mylist is obtained by "select email from
  people" against database mydb on host localhost

while

  the subscriberlist for otherlist is obtained by "select addr from
  folks" against database customers on host db.mydomain.com

these are just examples, but you get the picture, no?

How can I realise the above? Is there a tool for that?

Thanks.

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/etc/group changes don't take effect immediately

[Alphonse Ogulla]

Hi all,
In an effort to run ppp as non root, I had to include my normal user id in the 
group 'dip' by directly editing /etc/group using vi. However, on saving and 
exiting /etc/group, I still could *not* access files owned by user root and 
available to users in group dip whilst using my normal uid. Just as I was 
about to give up, I decided to exit the shell and log in once again and to my 
amazement, I now could read files in /etc/ppp/peers directory whose 
permission is as follows:-

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc/ppp$ ls -ld peers
drwxr-s---  2 root  dip 4096 Oct2 12:06 peers

How does one explain this? Is the file /etc/group cached somewhere and updated 
only so often? How can the changes be forced to take effect immediately 
without exiting and logging in again?

Regards,

Alphonse Ogulla
Nairobi, Kenya

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Re: gv segfaulting

[Sridhar M.A.]

On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 04:07:25PM +0200, Lukas Ruf wrote:
   > > Asbj?rn S?b? <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-10-02 16:03]:
   > >
   > 
   > > On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 02:33:04PM +0200, Lukas Ruf wrote:
   > > > > Sridhar M.A. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-10-02 14:27]:
   > > 
   > > > > I am currently running sarge. When I wanted to view a ps file using gv,
   > > > > it segfaulted. [...]
   > > 
   > > > search the archives.  This has been handled several times already.
   > > 
   > > Where?  I have searched the archives 
   > > (http://lists.debian.org/search.html, debian-user and debian-testing), 
   > > and have not found anything.
   > > 
   > strange. 
   > 
   > However, it helped upgrading, at least for me (don't remember which
   > package but assuming 'gv').
   > 
As I mentioned I am running sarge. The versions in both testing and
unstable are the same.  

Funny thing is ggv works. For now, I am using it.

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Re: Anyone else notice that Swen is slowing down?

[John Hasler]

Kjetil writes:
> But you run the risk of making a lot of unpriviliged power users very
> angry if you do that.

Such power users should be able to have the noexec removed on request.  Of
course, they will be given a lecture and if they screw up will get no
sympathy.

> But I think I'll run home to mom and dad and do that on their
> machine... :-)

They are exactly who it is for.

> I think that's the wrong question to ask... I think the question is "will
> Linux vendors obey a market that wants executeable files to be executed
> from email software if the user clicks on it?"

Does the market really want that?  Why?  (That's an honest question.  While
I know this feature exists on Windows, I've never seen an example of what
it is for.)
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yahoo wants to save cookies at /

[Alphonse Ogulla]

Unable to open mail.yahoo.com in konqueror as non root for the simple fact 
that yahoo wants to dump some cookies at / (root) directory for which I have 
no permissions. Anybody experience this strange behaviour?

Alphonse Ogulla
Nairobi, Kenya

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Re: Diff btw GeForce4 and RIVA TNT2?

[Ron Johnson]

On Thu, 2003-10-02 at 08:59, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> Hi all!
> 
> Thanks for those answers!
> 
> So... apt-getted xscreensaver-gl. gears -fps -delay 0
> indeed is the most straightforward app. to show the
> difference.
> 
> Left monitor, with the GeForce4: 155 fps.
> Right monitor, with RIVA TNT2: 50 fps.
> 
> Quod erat demonstrandum!

The nvidia-using-TNT2 will *smoke* the nv-using-GeForce4.

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Re: gv segfaulting

[Asbjørn Sæbø]

On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 04:07:25PM +0200, Lukas Ruf wrote:
> > Asbj?rn S?b? <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-10-02 16:03]:
> >
> 
> > On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 02:33:04PM +0200, Lukas Ruf wrote:
> > > > Sridhar M.A. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-10-02 14:27]:
> > 
> > > > I am currently running sarge. When I wanted to view a ps file using gv,
> > > > it segfaulted. [...]
> > 
> > > search the archives.  This has been handled several times already.
> > 
> > Where?  I have searched the archives 
> > (http://lists.debian.org/search.html, debian-user and debian-testing), 
> > and have not found anything.
> > 
> 
> strange. 
> 
> However, it helped upgrading, at least for me (don't remember which
> package but assuming 'gv').

Some more searching, and it seems that the solution is to upgrade 
xaw3dg, or to downgrade gv.

Thanks!

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Re: Re: Maildir with uw-imapd

[Jaldhar H. Vyas]

On Thu, 2 Oct 2003, Shane Hickey wrote:

> Well, I removed the ~/mbox file, and now all the mail goes to
> /var/mail/username, which is to be expected, however I can't get it to
> deliver to ~/Maildir.  Is there a config file for uw-imapd that I need
> to edit, to tell it to deliver to Maildir?
>

/etc/c-client.cf

See the documentation in /usr/share/doc/libc-client2001

(or 2002 or whatever you've got.)

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Re: Re: Maildir with uw-imapd

[Frank Gevaerts]

On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 09:34:20AM -0500, Shane Hickey wrote:
> 
> Well, I removed the ~/mbox file, and now all the mail goes to
> /var/mail/username, which is to be expected, however I can't get it to
> deliver to ~/Maildir.  Is there a config file for uw-imapd that I need
> to edit, to tell it to deliver to Maildir?  

AFAIK there is no config file for uw-imapd. Also, uw-imapd does not
deliver mail, that is done by the MTA (if this is on a debian box that
probably is exim). You will have to change the mta configuration to use
maildir. 
You may also want to look at courier-imapd, which uses only maildir, and
is more configurable.

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Re: Debian Desktop for a Joe Average

[Colin Watson]

On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 09:43:26AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On Thu, 2003-10-02 at 08:24, BruceG wrote:
> > On Thursday 02 October 2003 04:03, Wolfgang Lonien wrote:
> > > Edward Murrell wrote:
> > > > [Debian as a Windoze replacement]
> > >
> > > Hi Ed (and Joe of course :-P),
> [snip]
> > Thanks for the tips. I consider myself Joe Average. I've run
> > Mandrake and SuSE - but have had problems getting everything just
> > right in Debian Woody. I also have a Knoppix CD - so might just try
> > the Knoppix to hard disk route.
> > 
> > Is there a FAQ on how to change the /etc/apt/sources.list to
> > unstable?
> 
> Don't go directly from stable to unstable!!  Too radical

It's not significantly more radical than stable to testing. I don't
think there's much benefit in trying to go from stable to unstable via
testing, especially considering that there are things broken in testing
that work in unstable for one reason or another (e.g. apt-listchanges).

The concern I'd have would be more whether a self-confessed Joe Average
should use testing or unstable at all. :)

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Expect Script Loop issue

[Jeff]

I'm not currently subscribed, so please respond directly.

This is a little OT, but I'm in a bind.

I'm trying to write an Expect script that loops from 0 to 50,
incrimenting the value of i until the condition {i < 51} breaks the
loop. 

I can't seem to get this to work.  This section of the script executes
only once:

set i 0
while {$i < 51} {
  do stuff
  do more stuff
  {incr i 1}
  }

Can someone tell me why this doesn't run through 50 times and exit?

thanks,
jc


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Re: user-level logrotate?

[Derrick 'dman' Hudson]

On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 10:25:24AM +0200, Henrik Christian Grove wrote:
| "Monique Y. Herman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| 
| > I have a few applications that create log files in my home directory. Is
| > there a (simple) way to use logrotate as a normal user?
| 
| I see no reason that logrotate should require special privileges

Correct.

| for any but reading and writing it's state file, so try something
| like:
| 
| logrotate -s ~/private-logrotate-status ~/private-logrotate.conf

Put this in your personal crontab ('crontab -e').  My (personal)
crontab entry looks like
  # rotate personal logs
  @daily/usr/sbin/logrotate --state $HOME/etc/logrotate.status 
$HOME/etc/logrotate.conf

It works well.

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Xmms was working now its not - how do I fix/find the problem

[Wathen, Metherion]

Hi everybody,
Three days ago I had a working xmms installation,
last night i wanted to listen to some music mp3's on a cd
and poof no sound, no error message pop-ups (is there a log I
can check?), nothing. the song i selected went into the playlist
but after that nothing happened. This is odd because i haven't
used the system since the last time i was playing cd's three days ago.

system info - partial
woody
P100 32Mb RAM
tdfx video 16Mb RAM

its cool to cc: me directly
Any help or pointers will be greatly appreciated.
tia,
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Re: gv segfaulting

[Sridhar M.A.]

On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 04:07:25PM +0200, Lukas Ruf wrote:
   > 
   > However, it helped upgrading, at least for me (don't remember which
   > package but assuming 'gv').
   > 
Looked at the bts for gv. Found that xaw3dg has to be upgraded to the
version in unstable. Did that and gv is working fine.

Pity I did this after I filed a bug report :-(

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Re: gv segfaulting

[Derrick 'dman' Hudson]

On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 02:33:04PM +0200, Lukas Ruf wrote:
| > Sridhar M.A. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-10-02 14:27]:

| > $ gv
| > Warning: Representation size 2 must match superclass's to override
| > internalWidth
| > Segmentation fault

| search the archives.  This has been handled several times already.

Or look at the bugs for gv
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=gv

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Re: pppd daemon dies is a permissions problem? failure

[Alphonse Ogulla]

On Thursday 02 October 2003 17:57, you wrote:
> On Thursday 02 October 2003 16:57, you wrote:
> > I never dreamed that this would be such a difficult problem.I added
> > myself to the dip group (perhaps I was already there because the number
> > beside my user name (in /etc/group)was 1000. Anyway I added myself to
> > pppusers and dialout too. And the very same message:
> >  "Can't open options file /etc/ppp/peers/highstream.net: Permission
> >  denied"  appears. I did a chown 777 on the whole string of files but
> > still the same error message. Yes I am discouraged. Thanks for the help
> > and if anyone has any ideas I still will give it a shot. I'm out of
> > ideas.
>
> what are the permissions of /etc/ppp/peers/highstream.net? Issue ls -l
> against the file and post the output.

In addition, post the output of the following command sequence

$ whoami ; grep dip /etc/group

Alphonse Ogulla
Nairobi, Kenya

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Re: /etc/group changes don't take effect immediately

[Mental Patient]

Alphonse Ogulla wrote:
Hi all,
In an effort to run ppp as non root, I had to include my normal user id in the 
group 'dip' by directly editing /etc/group using vi. However, on saving and 
exiting /etc/group, I still could *not* access files owned by user root and 
available to users in group dip whilst using my normal uid. Just as I was 
about to give up, I decided to exit the shell and log in once again and to my 
amazement, I now could read files in /etc/ppp/peers directory whose 
permission is as follows:-

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc/ppp$ ls -ld peers
drwxr-s---  2 root  dip 4096 Oct2 12:06 peers
How does one explain this? Is the file /etc/group cached somewhere and updated 
only so often? How can the changes be forced to take effect immediately 
without exiting and logging in again?

Simply put, thats how unix works. On login, your groups are pulled from 
wherever nsswitch.conf points. Not everyone uses files (I use ldap), so 
caching can be desired.

If you dont want to logout and back in, you can always start a new shell 
 with the newgrp command.

See man newgrp and the nscd docs (about caching)

HTH

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Re: /etc/group changes don't take effect immediately

[David Z Maze]

Alphonse Ogulla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> In an effort to run ppp as non root, I had to include my normal user
> id in the group 'dip' by directly editing /etc/group using
> vi. However, on saving and exiting /etc/group, I still could *not*
> access files owned by user root and available to users in group dip
> whilst using my normal uid. Just as I was about to give up, I
> decided to exit the shell and log in once again... Is the file
> /etc/group cached somewhere and updated only so often?

Sort of; your group list is attached to your login session.  'groups'
will list which groups you're currently a member of, along with your
primary group.

> How can the changes be forced to take effect immediately without
> exiting and logging in again?

If you run 'newgrp dip', and you're nominally a member of that group,
you'll get a new shell with dip as your primary group, and I think
that will re-read the group list as a side effect.  It won't affect
the containing shell, or things like your X session, though.

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Font problems (ISO8859) after upgrading

[Asbjørn Sæbø]

I am using Debian Sarge, and after an upgrade some days ago (monday 
29.), I have got a font problem.  When starting Emacs, it comes up with 
only empty rectangles, instead of normal characters.  I also get the 
error message:


Warning: Cannot convert string "-*-courier-medium-r-*-*-*-120-*-*-*-*-iso8859-*" to 
type FontStruct
Warning: Unable to load any usable ISO8859 font
Warning: Cannot convert string "-*-helvetica-medium-r-*--*-120-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1" to 
type FontStruct
Warning: Unable to load any usable ISO8859 font
Warning: Unable to load any usable ISO8859 font
---

I have been able to find a partial workaround for Emacs by specifying 
fonts in .Xresources.  But I have similar problems with 

* Adobes Acroread (crashes immediately with error message), 
* gv (segfaults with error message), 
* xpdf (starts, but emits loads of error messages)
* xdvi (terminates abnormally with error message)


The upgrade was done using "apt-get update" followed by aptitude.
The aptitude log shows the packages liste under were upgraded (only 
relevant packages shown).

Does anyone have a solution/explanation for this behaviour?

With kind regards
Asbjørn Sæbø


[UPGRADE] fontconfig 2.2.1-1 -> 2.2.1-3
[UPGRADE] gdm-themes 0.1 -> 0.2
[UPGRADE] lbxproxy 4.2.1-6 -> 4.2.1-11
[UPGRADE] libdb4.0 4.0.14-1.2 -> 4.0.14-1.3
[UPGRADE] libdps1 4.2.1-6 -> 4.2.1-11
[UPGRADE] libfontconfig1 2.2.1-1 -> 2.2.1-3
[UPGRADE] libgsf-1 1.8.1-4 -> 1.8.2-1
[UPGRADE] libgsf-gnome-1 1.8.1-4 -> 1.8.2-1
[UPGRADE] libltdl3 1.4.3-10 -> 1.5-2
[UPGRADE] x-window-system 4.2.1-6 -> 4.2.1-11
[UPGRADE] x-window-system-core 4.2.1-6 -> 4.2.1-11
[UPGRADE] xbase-clients 4.2.1-6 -> 4.2.1-11
[UPGRADE] xdm 4.2.1-6 -> 4.2.1-11
[UPGRADE] xfonts-100dpi 4.2.1-6 -> 4.2.1-11
[UPGRADE] xfonts-75dpi 4.2.1-6 -> 4.2.1-11
[UPGRADE] xfonts-base 4.2.1-6 -> 4.2.1-11
[UPGRADE] xfonts-scalable 4.2.1-6 -> 4.2.1-11
[UPGRADE] xfree86-common 4.2.1-6 -> 4.2.1-11
[UPGRADE] xfs 4.2.1-6 -> 4.2.1-11
[UPGRADE] xfwp 4.2.1-6 -> 4.2.1-11
[UPGRADE] xlibmesa3-gl 4.2.1-6 -> 4.2.1-11
[UPGRADE] xlibmesa3-glu 4.2.1-6 -> 4.2.1-11
[UPGRADE] xlibs 4.2.1-6 -> 4.2.1-11
[UPGRADE] xnest 4.2.1-6 -> 4.2.1-11
[UPGRADE] xprt 4.2.1-6 -> 4.2.1-11
[UPGRADE] xserver-common 4.2.1-6 -> 4.2.1-11
[UPGRADE] xserver-xfree86 4.2.1-6 -> 4.2.1-11
[UPGRADE] xspecs 4.2.1-6 -> 4.2.1-11
[UPGRADE] xterm 4.2.1-6 -> 4.2.1-11
[UPGRADE] xutils 4.2.1-6 -> 4.2.1-11
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Re: FW: pppd daemon dies is a permissions problem? failure

[Alphonse Ogulla]

On Thursday 02 October 2003 16:57, you wrote:
> I never dreamed that this would be such a difficult problem.I added
> myself to the dip group (perhaps I was already there because the number
> beside my user name (in /etc/group)was 1000. Anyway I added myself to
> pppusers and dialout too. And the very same message:
>  "Can't open options file /etc/ppp/peers/highstream.net: Permission
>  denied"  appears. I did a chown 777 on the whole string of files but
> still the same error message. Yes I am discouraged. Thanks for the help
> and if anyone has any ideas I still will give it a shot. I'm out of ideas.
>
what are the permissions of /etc/ppp/peers/highstream.net? Issue ls -l against 
the file and post the output.

Alphonse Ogulla
Nairobi, Kenya

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Re: Debian Desktop for a Joe Average

[Ron Johnson]

On Thu, 2003-10-02 at 09:58, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 09:43:26AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > On Thu, 2003-10-02 at 08:24, BruceG wrote:
> > > On Thursday 02 October 2003 04:03, Wolfgang Lonien wrote:
> > > > Edward Murrell wrote:
> > > > > [Debian as a Windoze replacement]
> > > >
> > > > Hi Ed (and Joe of course :-P),
> > [snip]
> > > Thanks for the tips. I consider myself Joe Average. I've run
> > > Mandrake and SuSE - but have had problems getting everything just
> > > right in Debian Woody. I also have a Knoppix CD - so might just try
> > > the Knoppix to hard disk route.
> > > 
> > > Is there a FAQ on how to change the /etc/apt/sources.list to
> > > unstable?
> > 
> > Don't go directly from stable to unstable!!  Too radical
> 
> It's not significantly more radical than stable to testing. I don't
> think there's much benefit in trying to go from stable to unstable via
> testing, especially considering that there are things broken in testing
> that work in unstable for one reason or another (e.g. apt-listchanges).

So, for the moment, don't use apt-listchanges.

Aren't there other "big" packages that recently broke in sid?

> The concern I'd have would be more whether a self-confessed Joe Average
> should use testing or unstable at all. :)

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Re: does debian xfree support my video?

[VEGH Karoly]

On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 07:08:23AM -0600, skippi wrote:
> Greetings all.
> 
> I have acquired a new motherboard.  It's an Intel D865GBF.  The onboard video 
> controller is Intel Extreme Graphics 2, 82865G Graphics and Memory Controller 
> Hub, 865G chipset.  Is this supported under the Xfree that comes with Woody?  
> Or am I going to be having to do lots of building from source?  I have found a 

have a look at:

http://support.intel.com/support/graphics/linux/graphics.htm

It says you'll need X 4.3, but it also said this to my i845G VGA, 
and yet it works fine on my SID:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ X -version 2>&1 | grep Version
XFree86 Version 4.2.1.1 (Debian 4.2.1-11 20030829103906 [EMAIL PROTECTED]) / X Window 
System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6600)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ lspci | grep VGA
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corp. 82845G/GL [Brookdale-G] Chipset 
Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$

You may need a newer kernel (2.4.22 works fine for me) to get your 
agpgart working. At compiletime set the agpgart and the i8xx drivers to
be compiled in module.

HTH, but do not hesitate to ask, if that's not enough info.

charlie

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defalt nfs mount options

[arjen]

Hi,

I do some mounts from an nfs server, and I get a few mount options that 
I did not specify myself:

huis:/files/samba on /home/samba type nfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)

How can I change these settings? I would like to remove the noexec bit 
for example.

Thank you,

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Get my audio to work

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Re: Xmms was working now its not - how do I fix/find the problem

[Kent West]

Wathen, Metherion wrote:

Hi everybody,
Three days ago I had a working xmms installation,
last night i wanted to listen to some music mp3's on a cd
and poof no sound, no error message pop-ups (is there a log I
can check?), nothing. the song i selected went into the playlist
but after that nothing happened. This is odd because i haven't
used the system since the last time i was playing cd's three days ago.
system info - partial
woody
P100 32Mb RAM
tdfx video 16Mb RAM
its cool to cc: me directly
Any help or pointers will be greatly appreciated.
tia,
mw
 

I'd do a "ps ax" and look for any sound-looking processes running them 
(old xmms, artsd, etc) and kill them. Or look for a sound daemon that 
should be running but that's not (artsd, etc).

You might try exiting out of X and killing any X-related processes (kdm, 
gdm, xprint, artsd, xinit, etc) if there are still any running, and then 
restarting X and trying xmms again.

You might try a console-based mp3 player, or another X-based one; you 
might want to try it as a different user.

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Re: Anyone else notice that Swen is slowing down?

[Monique Y. Herman]

On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 00:17:23 -0400, ScruLoose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
penned: 
> Of course, there's also the fact that since they run Windows, they are of
> necessity logged in with admin privileges *all* the time, so it only takes
> one click to install an executable that then has full access to the system,
> including network devices...
> 

Not necessarily -- later versions of windows have the "runas" command so
that you don't have to be logged in as admin just to have access to
admin functions.

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Re: /etc/group changes don't take effect immediately

[VEGH Karoly]

On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 05:21:47PM +0300, Alphonse Ogulla wrote:

> How does one explain this? 
> Is the file /etc/group cached somewhere and updated 
> only so often? 

at login and at "set user id" and at "set group id" time.

> How can the changes be forced to take effect immediately 
> without exiting and logging in again?

you can force it with the sg command:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ groups 
charlie bin disk cdrom floppy audio irc src video staff games
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ 

marvin:/home/charlie# adduser charlie news
Adding user charlie to group news...
Done.
marvin:/home/charlie#

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sg news   
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ groups 
news charlie bin disk cdrom floppy audio irc src video staff games
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ id
uid=1000(charlie) gid=9(news) 
groups=1000(charlie),2(bin),6(disk),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),39(irc),40(src),44(video),50(staff),60(games),9(news)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ 


as you see my user wasn't part of the 'news' group, on another shell
i added it as root, and again in my original shell (without logout) with
sg I could force the information-update.

charlie

ps: up to now I did not know the sg command, just began to read couple
of manpages, like those of group,login,passwd,bash ... so read the fine
manual, please.

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Re: Mutt + Vim tricks (replace Nano)

[csj]

At Wed, 1 Oct 2003 15:51:42 + (UTC),
Monique Y. Herman wrote:

[...]

> I've tried opera, though not recently ... my preferred choice
> is still mozilla (love the tabs!)

Try w3m.  It has the visual equivalent of tabs.  You can use your
favorite editor (mine's emacs) to fill forms..


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Re: How Do You Know If It Works In Linux?

[csj]

At Wed, 1 Oct 2003 05:09:56 +0100,
Pigeon wrote:

[...]

> > How would Linux recognize it?  What would be the modem port?
> 
> ISTR from http://www.ftdi.com - who make USB-to-some-easier-format
> conversion chips - the answer is 'something straightforward'. Long
> time since I looked at the site though. Chances are it would be
> recognised as a USB device and you'd need to symlink it to /dev/modem.
> It might depend on who made the conversion chip to some extent.

Do you mean my serial modem is going to become a USB modem?


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segfault while loading perl script on irssi.

[flibus]

   I took a look on bugs.debian.org but i didn't find any bug
   report about this one. I'm on a testing/unstable debian with a
   2.4.21 kernel taken from the kernel source pacakges and
   irssi segfault while i want to load perl scripts.
   In /etc/apt/source.list i got :
   
   deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib
   deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable main non-free


I'm not sure of the packages which got a problem 
(if one got a problem) and i don't know other people
who got the same problem (i didn't really search).
So if you got a solution don't hesitate to reply :) 

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Re: Maildir with uw-imapd

[Juri Haberland]

Frank Gevaerts wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 09:34:20AM -0500, Shane Hickey wrote:
>> 
>> Well, I removed the ~/mbox file, and now all the mail goes to
>> /var/mail/username, which is to be expected, however I can't get it to
>> deliver to ~/Maildir.  Is there a config file for uw-imapd that I need
>> to edit, to tell it to deliver to Maildir?  
> 
> AFAIK there is no config file for uw-imapd. Also, uw-imapd does not
> deliver mail, that is done by the MTA (if this is on a debian box that
> probably is exim). You will have to change the mta configuration to use
> maildir. 

And AFAIK UW-IMAP can *only* work with mbox files, *not* with Maildirs.

> You may also want to look at courier-imapd, which uses only maildir, and
> is more configurable.

Right.

Cheers,
Juri


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Re: Starting Emacs: "Loading 40mule-ucs (source)..." takes a while.

[Adam]

Tatsuya Kinoshita wrote:

> Debian mule-ucs package enables Mule-UCS Unicode (loading
> /usr/share//site-lisp/mule-ucs/un-define.elc) by default
> in the startup file `/etc/emacs/site-start.d/40mule-ucs.el'.
>  
> Loading un-define.elc might take several seconds.  If you want to
> disable Mule-UCS Unicode, set the `DEB_MULEUCS_UNICODE'
> environment variable to "off" before starting Emacs.  See also

I've done that. Starting Emacs is a lot faster and as far as
I know everything I use still works.

Thanks!


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Re: Re: Debian Desktop for a Joe Average

[griffisb]

> 
> From: Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2003/10/02 Thu AM 10:58:25 EDT
> To: Debian-User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Debian Desktop for a Joe Average
> 
> On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 09:43:26AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > On Thu, 2003-10-02 at 08:24, BruceG wrote:
> > > On Thursday 02 October 2003 04:03, Wolfgang Lonien wrote:
> > > > Edward Murrell wrote:
> > > > > [Debian as a Windoze replacement]
> > > >
> > > > Hi Ed (and Joe of course :-P),
> > [snip]
> > > Thanks for the tips. I consider myself Joe Average. I've run
> > > Mandrake and SuSE - but have had problems getting everything just
> > > right in Debian Woody. I also have a Knoppix CD - so might just try
> > > the Knoppix to hard disk route.
> > > 
> > > Is there a FAQ on how to change the /etc/apt/sources.list to
> > > unstable?
> > 
> > Don't go directly from stable to unstable!!  Too radical
> 
> It's not significantly more radical than stable to testing. I don't
> think there's much benefit in trying to go from stable to unstable via
> testing, especially considering that there are things broken in testing
> that work in unstable for one reason or another (e.g. apt-listchanges).
> 
> The concern I'd have would be more whether a self-confessed Joe Average
> should use testing or unstable at all. :)
> 
> -- 
> Colin Watson  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Well, as Joe Average - maybe unstable would be a little too far. Maybe I might 
consider testing. I kind of like KDE 3.x, and had tried KDE 2.x in stable. And while 
my experience (4-5 months Mandrake 9.1, a month or so of SuSE 8.2) is limited, I'd be 
willing to bet that Debian testing is as stable as some of the other alternatives I've 
tried.

Is Knoppix based on Debian stable or Debian testing? Or am I looking at acompletely 
different animal? Running Knoppix I got an entirely different looking desktop than I 
did installing Woody and selecting a desktop install. And is the Debian Desktop 
subproject at a point where I could just go there and find an easier to install and 
tweak package?
Bruce


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Re: Xmms was working now its not - how do I fix/find the problem

[VEGH Karoly]

On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 10:20:39AM -0500, Wathen, Metherion wrote:

> Three days ago I had a working xmms installation,
> last night i wanted to listen to some music mp3's on a cd
> and poof no sound, no error message pop-ups (is there a log I
> can check?), nothing. the song i selected went into the playlist

if you use some sound daemon (artsd, esd, etc - do you?) check it out from
the ps aux list if it is running.

If your kernel directly uses your soundcard, then you should check 
if some processes use the sound-device (/dev/dsp)  like that:

fuser /dev/dsp

at me:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ fuser /dev/dsp
/dev/dsp:21797 21798 21799 21800 21804 21805
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ps aux |  grep 21797 
charlie  21797  1.4  1.6 21484 8476 ?S17:49   0:00 xmms
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ 

if you dont find anything, you can try the following:

echo > /dev/dsp

if it doesn't succeed, there's a fair chance that you do not have 
the sounddriver loaded (do you?).

are you in the sound group? in the cdrom group? 

are your boxes set to be loud enough to hear? *scnr* :)

HTH

charlie

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Re: segfault while loading perl script on irssi.

[Dave Carrigan]

On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 06:05:25PM +0200, flibus wrote:
> 
>I took a look on bugs.debian.org but i didn't find any bug
>report about this one. I'm on a testing/unstable debian with a
>2.4.21 kernel taken from the kernel source pacakges and
>irssi segfault while i want to load perl scripts.
>In /etc/apt/source.list i got :
>
>deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib
>deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable main non-free
> 
> 
> I'm not sure of the packages which got a problem 
> (if one got a problem) and i don't know other people
> who got the same problem (i didn't really search).
> So if you got a solution don't hesitate to reply :) 

It's related to the perl 5.8.1 upgrade. Supposedly, 5.8.1 is ABI
compatible with 5.8.0, but it seems that it is not, because software
that has an embedded perl interpreter seems to be segfaulting (mod_perl,
irssi, xchat, etc.). This was discussed a bit on debian-perl, but I
don't know if any bugs were filed. 

In the meantime, you can rebuild irssi, or you can downgrade perl.

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Re: printer icon

[Jonathan Matthews]

Sebastian Kapfer had the gall to say:
> On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 04:30:15 +0200, Zeeblanc wrote:
> 
> > I have a Lexmark z 11 printer.Until I was connected to aol 9.0 optimized
> > it worked fine the icon was on my task bar.
> 
> Can anyone enlighten me why _Windows_ users keep posting their [CENSORED]
> questions to this list?

As I said on deb-vote recently (obviously a bit OT ... :-), I /strongly/ 
believe these mails to be email-gathering ploys.

You'll notice that many of these 1- or 2-liners are very general, with 
many possible ways of diagnosing/solving the problem.  I believe that 
this is to increase the number of replies from helpful PeeCee users who 
think "finally - someone with a problem that *I* can help with!!".

I'd suggest tagging them as spam and letting 
bogofilter/spamassassin/$FILTER get rid of them.

HTH,
jc


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Sarge update: parse errors

[Bill Wohler]

I just updated Sarge and got the following error:

Preconfiguring packages ...
parse error reading X server string `unknown'
parse error reading X server string `unknown'

What emitted these messages? Is this a problem?

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