Re: ssh tunneling

2003-08-26 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 17:44:32 -0400, 
Derrick 'dman' Hudson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 02:10:12PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
> | On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 13:51:37 -0500 "P. Kallakuri"
> | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> | > i cannot find what process is keeping them. i know that i disabled
> | > ICMP requests on my gateway, 
> |
> | Ungh.  Why?  Why disable ICMP.  I never figured that one out.
> | Anything goes wrong with that line and you'll need to remember to
> | turn it back on so as not to waste the tech's time.  "Uh, I can't
> | ping your machine, are you sure it is plugged in?"  "Oh, wait, hold
> | on, I turned off that diagnostic tool."
> 
> Disabling ICMP causes worse problems than the scenario Steve
> described.  Suppose you are trying to connect to a remote system, but
> the server is "partially" down.  (for example you are trying to use
> HTTP but their web server isn't running)  Instead of an immediate
> "Connection Refused" message, you'll sit for around 2 minutes before
> you get a "Connection Timed Out" message.  Why?  Well, Connection
> Refused is indicated by an ICMP packet but you never pass those on to
> the application.  The application then sees nothing until the timeout
> timer expires.  ICMP is extremely useful and is, in fact, required for
> correct operation of TCP and IP.  Do not block ICMP.

..no rule witout exeption: these 2 minutes _are_ useful in tarpits, 
to help slow vira propagation:  http://labrea.sourceforge.net/ and
http://netfilter.org/documentation/pomlist/pom-extra.html#ipt_TARPIT

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Re: how to adapt this iptables setup?

2003-08-26 Thread Kevin McKinley
On 25 Aug 2003 15:15:27 -0400
Bret Comstock Waldow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Ok.  There is no /etc/rc.d in my Debian system.  /etc/rcX.d has some
> meaning beyond just being another place to gather files - it corresponds
> to runlevel X, and gets swept automatically as the system passes through
> that runlevel.  What is the meaning and equivalent of /etc/rc.d?  The
> other directories referenced appear to exist.

On RedHat/Mandrake systems, the runlevel directories are subdirectories of
rc.d:
- init.d
- rc.local
- rc0.d
/etc -- rc.d -- - rc1.d
- rc2.d
etc.

So where in RedHat you would start the firewall in, say
/etc/rc.d/rc5.d/S90fwsoho, in Debian it would be in /etc/rc2.d/S90fwsoho.

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Re: tinc and networking

2003-08-26 Thread Steve Lamb
On 25 Aug 2003 16:35:08 -0400
Tom Lopolito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm using kernel 2.4.18 and the network configuration now uses the
> /etc/interfaces file which does not use the ifconfig and route commands
> as 2.2 did. What is the difference in how the interfaces file runs? 

Interfaces is just a configuration file for a script that uses the
ifconfig and route commands.

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Tool for sending Windows popup messages?

2003-08-26 Thread Joe Emenaker
So, I had an idea of *something* I could do to try to help fix this 
"Sobig" virus problem.

Since the sender address is certainly spoofed, I figure the only way to 
track down the source is from the "Received" lines in the mail header.

I figured that, if their machine is poorly-managed enough for them to 
get the virus, it might also still be running the Windows Messenger 
service (or whatever that thing is that lets other people send popup 
messages to your screen).

The problem I'm having is *how* would I send a message like this? I 
tinkered around with smbclient, but it seemed to want the NetBIOS name 
of the machine that I was sending to, etc. Basically, all I've got is an 
IP address and I want to send a popup message to them. I figure that, if 
people out there are selling software that can do spam popups... it 
can't be *that* hard to do.

Is there some Debian tool that would let me specify an IP and a message 
and it would handle the delivery without making me bother with finding 
out the NetBIOS name, etc.?

- Joe



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Re: unprivileged user

2003-08-26 Thread Robert Storey

> > Sometime back somebody told me there was a way to add a user account
> > where the user was very limited in what he could do. As I remember, the
> > user would not even be able to change directories.
> 
> 
> Try googling for "chroot user"
> 
> Rgds
> 
> Rus

Thanks Rus. It turns out that what I was looking for is rbash. But chroot is also 
interesting, though a bit more complicated.

best regards,
Robert


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automatic overwrite with cp

2003-08-26 Thread alex
I've been trying to copy the contents of a partition  (source)  to 
another partition  (destination) that has a large number
of files that need to be overwritten.   The command I've tried is:

# cp -apRv  source/* /destination/

The command works but it requires that I manually respond 'yes' for each 
overwrite.  I thought that the r or R option
would do an automatic overwrite but apparently it doesn't.

What should the option be to do automatic overwrites with the ' cp ' 
command?

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Re: Help Please!!

2003-08-26 Thread William Bradley
On Monday 25 August 2003 06:10 pm, Kent West wrote:

> Sorry; I guess I didn't make myself clear. Forget completely about X for
> now; in fact, you might want to even disable the graphical login screen
> (add "exit 0" as the first non-comment line in the appropriate script:
> /etc/init.d/gdm or kdm or xdm or wdm and then reboot). Get the mouse
> working in the non-X console first via gpm. Once that's working, then
> you can worry about X.

Did the above, X is now disabled and boots to the command line.

> If I remember correctly, you said this mouse works fine in Windows on
> the same box. I guess that means the mouse has not been
> unplugged/replugged, with the attendant possibilities of broken/bent
> pins, bad connection, etc?

I turned off both of my machines, and took the PS/2 scroll mouse off the 
Mandrake unit, and installed it on the dual boot Debian unit. Then booted 
them both up again. The one that I took off the Debian unit, that was not 
working there, worked fine on the Mandrake unit. The one I took off the 
Mandrake machine is stationary on the Debian unit.

> In the text console, using gpm, you should see a white rectangle as your
> mouse pointer. It should function just as a pointer should, only it'll
> be rectangular instead of pointy. Do not try to configure gpm from
> within X! Get out of X completely to do this. Kill X. Exit X. Do not
> start X. Forget X. Ex X.

I now have a white rectangle but it is stationary on the screen.

Thank you for this help, I appreciate it very much and I would like to get 
Debian going.

Bill.



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What to expect after XP installation on the other disc

2003-08-26 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Give him Knoppix that can show him a lot of Debian
Linux without having to make any decision.
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Re: automatic overwrite with cp

2003-08-26 Thread Johann Koenig
On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 20:20:49 +0200
alex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I've been trying to copy the contents of a partition  (source)  to 
> another partition  (destination) that has a large number
> of files that need to be overwritten.   The command I've tried is:
> 
>  # cp -apRv  source/* /destination/
> 
> The command works but it requires that I manually respond 'yes' for
> each overwrite.  I thought that the r or R option
> would do an automatic overwrite but apparently it doesn't.
> 
> What should the option be to do automatic overwrites with the ' cp ' 
> command?

man cp
/-f
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other debian installer tactic?

2003-08-26 Thread Alfredo Valles
I know this have been discussed many times. But I still not happy. (Sorry)

Why is it that debian can not take a shortcut in the path for having a quick 
desktop installation?

Why not to release a basic knoppix-like CD with the most common desktop 
applications that 99% of people would want?. Using a very basic installer and 
the hardware auto-detection of knoppix (or any other that works) it would 
clone itself to the hard disk in a few minutes.
It would be possible to install the rest of the debian applications from the 
debian testing CDs anyway.

I know that this wouldn't work in all platforms (most surely only in x86) but 
even if it is a very limited solution I think it worth been a valid debian 
subproject on his own.
I think that the save in time that an approach like this produces is something 
to be taken seriously.
I have installed debian for desktop purposes several times so in time it 
becomes boring, and there are many stupid details (about fonts, java, etc...) 
that I rather prefer not to hold in my mind. 

Now I live happily with a knoppix installed to hard disk, and fetching soft 
from the debian unstable branch, only thing is that there are a few upgrade 
conflicts in some packages, nothing too hard to work around.
Many people is doing the same. 

What do you think?  (Don't open fire with the magnum 45, please :-)

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Re: other debian installer tactic?

2003-08-26 Thread Johann Koenig
On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 20:39:08 +0200
Alfredo Valles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Why not to release a basic knoppix-like CD with the most common
> desktop applications that 99% of people would want?. Using a very
> basic installer and the hardware auto-detection of knoppix (or any
> other that works) it would clone itself to the hard disk in a few
> minutes. It would be possible to install the rest of the debian
> applications from the debian testing CDs anyway.

Hmm .. that sounds just like Knoppix! Why, that already exists!

> I have installed debian for desktop purposes several times so in time
> it becomes boring, and there are many stupid details (about fonts,
> java, etc...) that I rather prefer not to hold in my mind.

Have you used tasksel? It should do at least the fonts.
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Re: automatic overwrite with cp

2003-08-26 Thread Roberto Sanchez
 --- alex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: 
> I've been trying to copy the contents of a partition  (source)  to 
> another partition  (destination) that has a large number
> of files that need to be overwritten.   The command I've tried is:
> 
>  # cp -apRv  source/* /destination/
> 
> The command works but it requires that I manually respond 'yes' for each 
> overwrite.  I thought that the r or R option
> would do an automatic overwrite but apparently it doesn't.
> 
> What should the option be to do automatic overwrites with the ' cp ' 
> command?
> 

add --reply=yes (it's in the man page).

-Roberto

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Linux - CDR

2003-08-26 Thread Li-Ren Zhou
Hi,

I'm somewhat new to linux in general. I was just wondering what was a
good tool for burning/ripping cd's (audio and bin/cue).

Thanks,
Lawrence


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Re: automatic overwrite with cp

2003-08-26 Thread Andrew Perrin
Or, alternatively:

yes | cp -apRv source/* /destination/



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On Tue, 26 Aug 2003, [iso-8859-1] Roberto Sanchez wrote:

>  --- alex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió:
> > I've been trying to copy the contents of a partition  (source)  to
> > another partition  (destination) that has a large number
> > of files that need to be overwritten.   The command I've tried is:
> >
> >  # cp -apRv  source/* /destination/
> >
> > The command works but it requires that I manually respond 'yes' for each
> > overwrite.  I thought that the r or R option
> > would do an automatic overwrite but apparently it doesn't.
> >
> > What should the option be to do automatic overwrites with the ' cp '
> > command?
> >
>
> add --reply=yes (it's in the man page).
>
> -Roberto
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Re: other debian installer tactic?

2003-08-26 Thread Mark Roach
On Mon, 2003-08-25 at 14:39, Alfredo Valles wrote:
> I know this have been discussed many times. But I still not happy. (Sorry)
> 
> Why is it that debian can not take a shortcut in the path for having a quick 
> desktop installation?

"Debian" is a group of people who volunteer their time. Why don't *you*
do this? Seriously, volunteers *volunteer* their time for what they are
interested in, if you are interested, do something about it.

[snip]
> Now I live happily with a knoppix installed to hard disk, and fetching soft 

s if you are happy, be happy.

> What do you think?  (Don't open fire with the magnum 45, please :-)

I think this has been discussed plenty of times. Check the archives.

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Re: other debian installer tactic?

2003-08-26 Thread Johann Koenig
On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 21:11:40 +0200
Alfredo Valles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Tuesday 26 August 2003 2:49 am, Johann Koenig wrote:
> > Hmm .. that sounds just like Knoppix! Why, that already exists!
> 
> I'm just saying that the system is good and that it works, not that
> it's original or that I invented it.

I didn't say it was original/you invented it. I said it already exists.
Why reinvent the wheel?

> And, of course, knoppix do that too. But that's not what knoppix is
> for. There would be many things that can be better adjusted if the
> purpose of CD were only to deliver to you a debian suitable for
> desktop uses. The most important that I can think now is to guarantee
> the upgradeability of the system.
>
> > Have you used tasksel? It should do at least the fonts.
> 
> Believe me there are many details to take care if you are like me that
> like to have everything others have on red hat or suse.

I use the meta package x-window-system-core to get base functionality,
and get what I want as I need it. There are probably meta packages for
Gnome/KDE also. I don't use those, they would bog the crap out of my
900mhz 768mb box.

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Re: automatic overwrite with cp

2003-08-26 Thread Kevin McKinley
On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 20:20:49 +0200
alex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I've been trying to copy the contents of a partition  (source)  to 
> another partition  (destination) that has a large number
> of files that need to be overwritten.   The command I've tried is:
> 
>  # cp -apRv  source/* /destination/
> 
> The command works but it requires that I manually respond 'yes' for each 
> overwrite.  I thought that the r or R option
> would do an automatic overwrite but apparently it doesn't.
> 
> What should the option be to do automatic overwrites with the ' cp ' 
> command?

If you anticipate the need to do this more than once, I suggest looking into
rsync.

Kevin


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Re: ssh tunneling

2003-08-26 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 02:01:05AM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> ..no rule witout exeption: these 2 minutes _are_ useful in tarpits, 
> to help slow vira propagation:

That's a new plural of "virus" to me ...

["viri" and "virii" are both wrong. The first is made up by assuming
that "virus" is a Latin masculine second declension noun, which it's not
(it's neuter), and "viri" is actually the plural of "vir" and means
"men". The second is just utterly weird, though strangely popular, and
is constructed on top of a made-up second declension noun, "virius".
"vira" is probably better than anything else, because at least it's
neuter, but really seems more like the plural of "virum". Anyway, there
are no recorded instances of a Latin plural of "virus", because its
meaning back then was abstract and not something you could really
pluralize. The only English plural of the word is simply "viruses".

This concludes today's pedantry.]

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Re: automatic overwrite with cp

2003-08-26 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 08:20:49PM +0200, alex wrote:
> I've been trying to copy the contents of a partition  (source)  to 
> another partition  (destination) that has a large number
> of files that need to be overwritten.   The command I've tried is:
> 
> # cp -apRv  source/* /destination/
> 
> The command works but it requires that I manually respond 'yes' for each 
> overwrite.

Use the -f option.

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Re: how to adapt this iptables setup?

2003-08-26 Thread Bret Comstock Waldow
On Mon, 2003-08-25 at 20:08, Kevin McKinley wrote:
>  On 25 Aug 2003 15:15:27 -0400
> Bret Comstock Waldow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Ok.  There is no /etc/rc.d in my Debian system.  /etc/rcX.d has some
> > meaning beyond just being another place to gather files - it corresponds
> > to runlevel X, and gets swept automatically as the system passes through
> > that runlevel.  What is the meaning and equivalent of /etc/rc.d?  The
> > other directories referenced appear to exist.
> 
> On RedHat/Mandrake systems, the runlevel directories are subdirectories of
> rc.d:
> - init.d
> - rc.local
> - rc0.d
> /etc -- rc.d -- - rc1.d
> - rc2.d
> etc.
> 
> So where in RedHat you would start the firewall in, say
> /etc/rc.d/rc5.d/S90fwsoho, in Debian it would be in /etc/rc2.d/S90fwsoho.

The problem I'm having is some things (iptables_pre & iptables.rh73) he
has me copy into /etc/init.d and then symlink from /etc/rcX.d, and other
things he has me copy into /etc/rc.d (rc.fwsoho, which is called from
iptables.rh73) and I'm trying to figure out the implications of that.

What else typically lives in /etc/rc.d?  What sort of files are kept
there in Red Hat?

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Re: Tool for sending Windows popup messages?

2003-08-26 Thread Vineet Kumar
* Joe Emenaker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030825 17:03]:
> Is there some Debian tool that would let me specify an IP and a message 
> and it would handle the delivery without making me bother with finding 
> out the NetBIOS name, etc.?

Did you try smbclient's -I option?

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Re: Checking what's installed

2003-08-26 Thread Nick Hastings
* Kevin McKinley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030826 10:29]:
> On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 12:12:59 +0900
> Nick Hastings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > > Am installing Debian on a 486 laptop, and because I want to trim down 
> > > the installation as much as possible, how do I view a list of what's 
> > > installed by apt-get on the laptop?  DSelect is useless as it marks some
> > > 
> > > stuff that hasn't been installed as to be installed.
> > 
> > dpkg -l | grep ^ii
> 
> dpkg -l works just fine, since it only reports the installed packages.

I beg to differ:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ 9%  dpkg -l | grep -v ^ii | wc
126 9528173


Seems there are 126 that are not both installed and desired. It shows
all the packages that it knows about. 

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Re: automatic overwrite with cp

2003-08-26 Thread alex
Roberto Sanchez wrote:

--- alex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: 
 

I've been trying to copy the contents of a partition  (source)  to 
another partition  (destination) that has a large number
of files that need to be overwritten.   The command I've tried is:

# cp -apRv  source/* /destination/

The command works but it requires that I manually respond 'yes' for each 
overwrite.  I thought that the r or R option
would do an automatic overwrite but apparently it doesn't.

What should the option be to do automatic overwrites with the ' cp ' 
command?

   

add --reply=yes (it's in the man page).

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Beautiful!   It works very nicely.I used  cp  -apfv  --reply=y 
source/* destination.

I wasn't aware that there was such  a command in man.

The story is I installed a new hard drive  for a friend and installed 
Windows 98 and used the old hard drive
Win98 as a source and copied the entire old Win98 partition to the new 
Win98 partition.   I installed KNOPPIX in
the new drive and used it to do the copy.  My friend now is now becoming 
a Debian fan..

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What packages do I need to get from unstable to have a working Gnome 2 install?

2003-08-26 Thread stan
On a testing box.

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Re: Checking what's installed

2003-08-26 Thread Shaun Crossley
On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 06:58:41PM -0400, Kevin McKinley wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 12:12:59 +0900
> Nick Hastings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > > Am installing Debian on a 486 laptop, and because I want to trim down 
> > > the installation as much as possible, how do I view a list of what's 
> > > installed by apt-get on the laptop?  DSelect is useless as it marks some
> > > 
> > > stuff that hasn't been installed as to be installed.
> > 
> > dpkg -l | grep ^ii
> 
> dpkg -l works just fine, since it only reports the installed packages.

On my hybrid woody/sarge system, dpkg -l "*lib*" (for example)
includes lots of libraries that are status "un" and "pn" which
are definitely not installed.

But that's just my US$0.0142573 (CDN$0.02) -- YMMV.

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Re: Need feedback concerning PVR/DVR, Home threatre setup!

2003-08-26 Thread Rthoreau
Major snip

> You can get micro-itx systems for <$200 from idot.com, complete.
> I don't know how they related to PVR applications.

All that is needed to have a PVR is a TV tuner card that is supported 
by Linux, which you then can save your shows to a hard drive.  Most 
graphics cards nowadays have support for tv out if you buy the right 
card.  In fact most cards which has tv out will ship with software 
for the tv watching by S-video connection.

>You can get basic black cases easily enough and it may not look any 
>more out of place than having a DVD recorder next to a VCR.

I was thinking about that, but I want to do a proof of concept with 
the available hardware to see if its worth investing in a pvr box.  
Only problem I might have is I might need to buy a cheapo sound card, 
cause my box does not have one.   In fact I might do it over this 
long weekend shouldn't be two hard to accomplish.

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Re: automatic overwrite with cp

2003-08-26 Thread alex
Thanks for the other suggestions.   I had already started the copy so I 
didn't receive the last few messages until
the copy was completed but will note them in my handydandy notebook
.

alex wrote:

I've been trying to copy the contents of a partition  (source)  to 
another partition  (destination) that has a large number
of files that need to be overwritten.   The command I've tried is:

# cp -apRv  source/* /destination/

The command works but it requires that I manually respond 'yes' for 
each overwrite.  I thought that the r or R option
would do an automatic overwrite but apparently it doesn't.

What should the option be to do automatic overwrites with the ' cp ' 
command?




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Re: Kernel Upgrade Problems

2003-08-26 Thread Nick Hastings
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030826 10:27]:
 linux-2.4 >

> When I tried insmod 8139too (the module for the network card), I get a
> number of unresolved symbol errors.

What happens if you 'modprobe 8139too'?

> Any ideas?

Using insmod does nothing to sort out module dependencies. Using
modprobe does.

> Hope I have given enough information!

Providing specific error messages is always best.

Cheers,

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Re: Checking what's installed

2003-08-26 Thread Johann Koenig
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 10:40:22 +0900
Nick Hastings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> * Kevin McKinley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030826 10:29]:
> > On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 12:12:59 +0900
> > Nick Hastings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > > Am installing Debian on a 486 laptop, and because I want to trim
> > > > down the installation as much as possible, how do I view a list
> > > > of what's installed by apt-get on the laptop?  DSelect is
> > > > useless as it marks some
> > > > 
> > > > stuff that hasn't been installed as to be installed.
> > > 
> > > dpkg -l | grep ^ii
> > 
> > dpkg -l works just fine, since it only reports the installed
> > packages.
> 
> I beg to differ:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ 9%  dpkg -l | grep -v ^ii | wc
> 126 9528173
> 
> 
> Seems there are 126 that are not both installed and desired. It shows
> all the packages that it knows about. 

It seems to list all packages installed or packages removed but not
purged.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dpkg -l | grep -v ^ii
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
|
Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
|/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err:
uppercase=bad)
||/ Name   VersionDescription
+++-==-==-=
===
rc  telnet 0.17-20The telnet client.

I replaced telnet with telnet-ssl. It had a few other packages, but I
took the opportunity to purge them. I had been looking for a way to find
out what packages had been removed but not purged.
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Re: What packages do I need to get from unstable to have a workingGnome 2 install?

2003-08-26 Thread Johann Koenig
On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 22:16:40 -0400
stan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On a testing box.

Change your sources, and 'apt-get install *gnome*'? 
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Re: Linux - CDR

2003-08-26 Thread Nick Hastings
Hi,

* Li-Ren Zhou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030826 10:31]:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm somewhat new to linux in general.

I'll keep this in mind. 

Firstly, please start a _new_ thread if you wish to start a new topic
on this list. ie. write a fresh email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
rather than replying to an existing email. Additionally, when replying
to list mail please send your mail to the list only.

> I was just wondering what was a good tool for burning/ripping cd's
> (audio and bin/cue).

Copying audio cd's can be done quite easily with xcdroast. Encoding
audio cds to mp3's or oggs can be done with grip.

Cheers,

Nick.

PS. Both xcdroast and grip are just gui front ends to lower level
tools (cdda2wav, cdrecord, oggenc etc.). Once you become more familiar
with linux you may find it easier to use these tools directly.

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ati maxx

2003-08-26 Thread rich swain
I have a ati rage 128 pro maxx agp videocard.it is a dual graphics processor card.
I can not get it to work in potato or woody.Hoping you my know of a trick to get it to 
work.
I have had it working in suse 7.3 - 8.1,caldera 3.1,redhat 8.0,lycoris build 46,.
I really want to use debian ,and do not want to replace this great video card.
  thank you
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Does Debian support IDE disks with more than 128GiB or IDE 48bit addressing?

2003-08-26 Thread Jose Manuel dos Santos Calhariz

Hi,

I have a Samsung disk with 149GiB of space and my experience is
mixed.  

What you know, or you experience with disks with more than 128GiB
working with Debian (Woody or Sarge)?

As I said my experience is mixed.  The motherboard is an Asus A7V with
the last BIOS that supports 48bit addressing, have two IDE controllers
Ove VIA VT82C686/VT82C586B and the other is Promise 20265.  Both of
them identify the right size (149Gib) and I can make the partitions
with fdisk or cfdisk without problems with Debian kernels 2.4.21-3-k7
and 2.4.20-3-k7 or a personalized 2.4.21 to include lmsensors, i2c,
alsa, and nvidia-kernel.  I have an woody system with some packages
upgraded to sarge.

I can make a file system with more than 128GiB if connected to the VIA
controller, but connected to the Promise I will have a corrupted file
system.  

- So I believe that kernel 2.4.21 with Promise don't support IDE
48bit.

- With VIA controller I have doubts, at least one time I had data
corruption.  That caused me to lose the extended partition with all my
Linux file systems, more than 120GiB of data on LVM volumes.

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Re: Help Please!!

2003-08-26 Thread Kent West
William Bradley wrote:

On Monday 25 August 2003 06:10 pm, Kent West wrote:

 

Sorry; I guess I didn't make myself clear. Forget completely about X for
now; in fact, you might want to even disable the graphical login screen
(add "exit 0" as the first non-comment line in the appropriate script:
/etc/init.d/gdm or kdm or xdm or wdm and then reboot). Get the mouse
working in the non-X console first via gpm. Once that's working, then
you can worry about X.
   

Did the above, X is now disabled and boots to the command line.

 

If I remember correctly, you said this mouse works fine in Windows on
the same box. I guess that means the mouse has not been
unplugged/replugged, with the attendant possibilities of broken/bent
pins, bad connection, etc?
   

I turned off both of my machines, and took the PS/2 scroll mouse off the 
Mandrake unit, and installed it on the dual boot Debian unit. Then booted 
them both up again. The one that I took off the Debian unit, that was not 
working there, worked fine on the Mandrake unit. The one I took off the 
Mandrake machine is stationary on the Debian unit.

 

In the text console, using gpm, you should see a white rectangle as your
mouse pointer. It should function just as a pointer should, only it'll
be rectangular instead of pointy. Do not try to configure gpm from
within X! Get out of X completely to do this. Kill X. Exit X. Do not
start X. Forget X. Ex X.
   

I now have a white rectangle but it is stationary on the screen.

Thank you for this help, I appreciate it very much and I would like to get 
Debian going.

Bill.
 

Okay, so we know for sure the mouse is okay. And if either mouse works 
on Windows on the "Debian box", we can assume the ps/2 port is okay. 
Which leaves software.

I see two basic possibilities:
1) kernel issues
2) gpm issues
I believe you said earlier that "cat /dev/psaux" generated garbage as 
expected, which pretty much eliminates kernel issues. Still, you might 
be interested in upgrading the kernel (assuming you have 2.2.20 - "uname 
-a" will report it for you).

More likely, your problem is with gpm (or X, when we get there). Again, 
I see two basic possibilities:
1) older version of gpm not working right with that particular mouse
2) wrong settings in gpm.

The older version issue is probably not the case; ps/2 mice have been 
around quite a while. However, you might consider upgrading to unstable 
if this isn't a box that needs 24x7 uptime (or five 9s - 99.999%).

Mostly likely the protocol is wrong. I don't remember; is this a wheel 
mouse? If so, try "fuimps2". You can also type "help" when asked for the 
type during "gpmconfig" for a list of other protocols to try. Experiment 
and see if you get any motion.

Let us know.

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Re: Mounting large Windows ME disk?

2003-08-26 Thread Larry Hunter

Arnt,

Thanks for the suggestions.  Some responses: 

 > ..ntfs?  No hardware problem such as fried chips?

-t ntfs doesn't help (and an ntfs filesystem wouldn't mount under ME
anyway).  The drive works fine in the Windows machine (I put it back
after my failure to mount it), so probably not fried chips.

 > ..your box supports disks this big?  I had to update bios for 2 of mine.

I updated to the current BIOS from Dell before trying anything.  The
machine is a Dell Dimension XPS R400, and the BIOS version is A13.
Since fdisk and friends see the correct size (80GB), I don't think the
BIOS is likely to be the problem. 

>  ..dd, split, cat and a cd or dvd toaster and its docs is a viable way in the _ugly_ 
> case.

Like I said, if I can't find a solution in a few days, I will just buy
a new 80GB disk and format it from scratch (they're only about $80
delivered -- much cheaper than a DVD burner, and I'd hate to think of
the hassle of making and transfering 50GB+ on CDs!).

But it sure is frustrating not to be able get it to mount

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Re: other debian installer tactic?

2003-08-26 Thread Kent West
Alfredo Valles wrote:

I know this have been discussed many times. But I still not happy. (Sorry)

Why is it that debian can not take a shortcut in the path for having a quick 
desktop installation?
 



I know that this wouldn't work in all platforms (most surely only in x86) but 
even if it is a very limited solution I think it worth been a valid debian 
subproject on his own.
 

Wonderful goal! But what you're asking for is a different distribution, 
which has been done already: Corel, Libranet, Knoppix, Xandros, etc. 
Debian, by its very definition, does not work only on one platform. 
Anything that is based on Debian, but only works on one platform, is not 
Debian. You're free to develop your own distro, or hire/persuade someone 
to do it, or to acquire another distro that does what you want, such as 
those mentioned above, but the bottom line is that you're asking for 
another distro, not Debian. You're free to consider these other distros 
as "valid Debian subprojects", but Debian itself supports mulitiple 
architectures. Anything less is not Debian, and the "Debian developers" 
are unlikely to spend their time and effort working on an installer 
that's not Debian (and I applaud them for that!).

All you'd need to do is hire/persuade programmers to write a custom 
installation routine that satisfies you, and tie it into a distribution 
that is otherwise pure Debian. Then slap a name on that puppy, such as 
"Installian", and put up a website where it can be downloaded. Ask the 
Debian folks to put a link on the Debian page to your site, and you've 
got what you want. But again, the Debian developers are too busy to 
spend their time/effort on this sub-project (if I may speak on their 
behalf), so it's gonna have to be done by someone else, and it's not 
going be called "Debian", 'cause it ain't Debian if it only works for 
one platform.

A lot of people would like this probably.

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Re: LILO ! framebuffer

2003-08-26 Thread Paul M Foster
On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 09:29:14AM -0400, R Ransbottom wrote:

> > > Paul M Foster (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
> 
> > > > On boot, I'm getting the framebuffer, with the little colored Tux in
> > > > the upper lefthand corner of the screen. I don't want that, I want
> 
> Had the same problem and the same difficulty finding the answer:
> 
> In lilo.conf
> append="video=vga16:off"

This actually worked. Thanks.

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Re: TV-out without X

2003-08-26 Thread Alex Malinovich
On Mon, 2003-08-25 at 17:18, Sebastian Helms wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> my Linux box is running woody, but without X.
> 
> I'd like to play DivX videos on this machine, still without X,
> viewing the output over the TV-out port of the video card.
> 
> My questions are:
> 
> - is this possible?
> - is there a non-X DivX-capable media player?
> - which video card with TV-out would be best for this?

Yes, it is possible.

mplayer supports playing DivX movies outside of X. Look at the -vo
option. I use -vo vesa, though depending on your setup some of the other
modes may work.

The only way I've EVER done TV-out from a computer has been with my
laptop, which is using an ATI Mobility M4.

Hope that helps. :)

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Re: Re: Problems with xserver-xfree86

2003-08-26 Thread Stephen Touset
There is no Xfree config file anywhere in the system that I can tell.
When I install X, it tells me that it hasn't found the files, so it
won't update them. The problem is that they're just not being created.

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Re: Help Please!!

2003-08-26 Thread Pigeon
On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 08:26:28PM -0400, William Bradley wrote:
> On Monday 25 August 2003 06:10 pm, Kent West wrote:
> 
> > Sorry; I guess I didn't make myself clear. Forget completely about X for
> > now; in fact, you might want to even disable the graphical login screen
> > (add "exit 0" as the first non-comment line in the appropriate script:
> > /etc/init.d/gdm or kdm or xdm or wdm and then reboot). Get the mouse
> > working in the non-X console first via gpm. Once that's working, then
> > you can worry about X.
> 
> Did the above, X is now disabled and boots to the command line.
> 
> > If I remember correctly, you said this mouse works fine in Windows on
> > the same box. I guess that means the mouse has not been
> > unplugged/replugged, with the attendant possibilities of broken/bent
> > pins, bad connection, etc?
> 
> I turned off both of my machines, and took the PS/2 scroll mouse off the 
> Mandrake unit, and installed it on the dual boot Debian unit. Then booted 
> them both up again. The one that I took off the Debian unit, that was not 
> working there, worked fine on the Mandrake unit. The one I took off the 
> Mandrake machine is stationary on the Debian unit.

Are the mice the same make/model?

> > In the text console, using gpm, you should see a white rectangle as your
> > mouse pointer. It should function just as a pointer should, only it'll
> > be rectangular instead of pointy. Do not try to configure gpm from
> > within X! Get out of X completely to do this. Kill X. Exit X. Do not
> > start X. Forget X. Ex X.
> 
> I now have a white rectangle but it is stationary on the screen.

This is a bit of a long shot, and I would expect it to be resulting in
uncontrollable rather than zero pointer movement, but perhaps your
mouse has a weird protocol... though I still don't see why Mandrake
would be OK and Debian not, but still... Can you send me a sample of
your mouse's raw output and I'll have a look to see if it looks like a
recognised protocol? Do this...

1) Be in console mode, with gpm stopped (I don't use gpm myself, but
   I'd guess '/etc/init.d/gpm stop' as root should stop it)
2) Do the 'cat /dev/psaux' trick to make sure the hardware's working
3) Take the mouse ball out, so you can move the little rollers that it
   runs against with your finger
4) Issue the command: cat /dev/psaux > /tmp/mousedata &
   - you'll get a number in square brackets and a longer number
   without brackets
5) Move the mouse's horizontal roller with your finger, first one way
   then the other
6) Move the mouse's vertical roller with your finger, first one way
   then the other
7) Click the buttons twice each, in the order left, right, middle
8) Move the scroll wheel first one way then the other
9) Issue the command: echo -ne '\377' > /dev/psaux
10) Issue the command: echo -ne '\364' > /dev/psaux
11) Repeat steps 5 to 8
12) Kill the cat - kill  where  is the number 
without the brackets from step 4 - you should get a 'Terminated'
message
13) Email me the file /tmp/mousedata


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Re: Mozilla printer problems

2003-08-26 Thread Ross Boylan
On Sun, Aug 24, 2003 at 05:09:06AM -0400, Brad Sawatzky wrote:
> Hi Tom,
> 
> Perhaps your Mozilla build requires the Xprint package.  Try installing
> xprt-xprintorg (and its depends) and see if mozilla can print.
> 

Additionally, I found I needed cupsys-bsd (mentioned in the
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Re: Help Please!!

2003-08-26 Thread William Bradley
On Monday 25 August 2003 11:09 pm, Kent West wrote:

> Okay, so we know for sure the mouse is okay. And if either mouse works
> on Windows on the "Debian box", we can assume the ps/2 port is okay.
> Which leaves software.
>
> I see two basic possibilities:
>  1) kernel issues
>  2) gpm issues
>
> I believe you said earlier that "cat /dev/psaux" generated garbage as
> expected, which pretty much eliminates kernel issues. Still, you might
> be interested in upgrading the kernel (assuming you have 2.2.20 - "uname
> -a" will report it for you).
>
> More likely, your problem is with gpm (or X, when we get there). Again,
> I see two basic possibilities:
>  1) older version of gpm not working right with that particular mouse
>  2) wrong settings in gpm.
>
> The older version issue is probably not the case; ps/2 mice have been
> around quite a while. However, you might consider upgrading to unstable
> if this isn't a box that needs 24x7 uptime (or five 9s - 99.999%).
>
> Mostly likely the protocol is wrong. I don't remember; is this a wheel
> mouse? If so, try "fuimps2". You can also type "help" when asked for the
> type during "gpmconfig" for a list of other protocols to try. Experiment
> and see if you get any motion.

If we had web cams you could see an old geezer dancing a slightly arthritic 
jig. Clicked on "help" as you suggested. Tried one, forget which, did not 
work, and then I tried "fuimps2" and tested it. Bumped the mouse accidentally 
and it moved. Nearly fell off my chair!! After five days, there finally is 
movement. 

What is next, restart X windows?

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Re: Help Please!!

2003-08-26 Thread William Bradley
On Tuesday 26 August 2003 12:08 am, you wrote:

> 1) Be in console mode, with gpm stopped (I don't use gpm myself, but
>I'd guess '/etc/init.d/gpm stop' as root should stop it)
> 2) Do the 'cat /dev/psaux' trick to make sure the hardware's working
> 3) Take the mouse ball out, so you can move the little rollers that it
>runs against with your finger
> 4) Issue the command: cat /dev/psaux > /tmp/mousedata &
>- you'll get a number in square brackets and a longer number
>without brackets
> 5) Move the mouse's horizontal roller with your finger, first one way
>then the other
> 6) Move the mouse's vertical roller with your finger, first one way
>then the other
> 7) Click the buttons twice each, in the order left, right, middle
> 8) Move the scroll wheel first one way then the other
> 9) Issue the command: echo -ne '\377' > /dev/psaux
> 10) Issue the command: echo -ne '\364' > /dev/psaux
> 11) Repeat steps 5 to 8
> 12) Kill the cat - kill  where  is the number
> without the brackets from step 4 - you should get a 'Terminated'
>   message
> 13) Email me the file /tmp/mousedata

Thank you for taking so much trouble Kent West got my playing with gmpconfig 
and when I got to "fuimps2" under type, the mouse moved. This was done with X 
completely shut down.

Best wishes,

Bill.

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Re: Re: Problems with xserver-xfree86

2003-08-26 Thread Chris Black
Stephen Touset <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There is no Xfree config file anywhere in the system that I can tell.
> When I install X, it tells me that it hasn't found the files, so it
> won't update them. The problem is that they're just not being created.
> 
> -- 
> Stephen Touset <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Are you using sid? I recently did a clean install of woody and then
immediately upgrading to sid and had the same issue when installing X.
According to the status messages they're migrating configuring X way
from the former method. I ended up just installing version -6 (-10 is the
current) of xserver-common and using apt-get to grab the rest of the
packages and then manually installing xserver-xfree86 -6, configuring
it, and then upgrading it. Likely far easier ways to handle this but 1)
I didn't have an old XF86Config handy and 2) It was 4:30 am and I was
too tired to think of another. 

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Logrotate and qmail

2003-08-26 Thread Michael Bellears
Is there anyway to configure Logrotate to 'skip' certain files?

Logrotate is rotating /var/log/qmail/current once a week, and during
this process it creates a 'previous' file(/var/log/qmail/previous) which
causes qmail to stop processing mail (Fails with 'unable to set mode of
/var/log/qmail/previous, pausing' - As the 'previous' file has root:adm
perms(Modifying the perms to qmaill:root fixes the problem, albeit
temporarily!))

Thanks in advance,
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Best Way to Look at Streaming Video

2003-08-26 Thread Ross Boylan
I wanted to look at a video on a web site that offered it in
RealPlayer, QuickTime, and Windows Media Player format.  To my suprise
(since I had installed RealPlayer) I couldn't, and this led to some
questions that perhaps people here could answer.

Which of these formats would be the best choice for Debian (I do have
some windows partitions, though I don't think I've installed any of
the recent MediaPlayer stuff)?  Ideally, I want it to work through my
mozilla 1.4 browser, built with gcc 3.3.

What are the best tools to view these formats?

I have the old (and apparently no longer existing) realplayer for
debian package, along with the latest (as of a month ago) unix
realplayer from real.com.  However, it is not recognized as a plug in
for my mozilla 1.4.  I believe I read somewhere that realplayer, built
with older gcc's, is not going to work with mozilla built with the new
gccs.

I also had no luck pasting the URL directly into realplayer, probably
because the URL is only of a page that does some magic to decide what
kind of video to serve
(http://athome.harvard.edu/programs/sge/sge1.html, but I think it's
password protected).

Discussion a few months ago mentioned http://marillat.free.fr/ both
for the realplayer for Debian package (which  no longer seems to be
there) and for mplayer (about which there were mixed comments).

I see several packages providing quicktime support (xine, xmovie,
xanim) and don't know if one is obviously better (or better at
integrating into mozilla).

Any thoughts?


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Re: Re: Problems with xserver-xfree86

2003-08-26 Thread Ross Boylan
It would probably be helpful to give the exact transcript of what you
tried to do: which packages did you install with which tool, and what
error message did you get.

The statement that there is no existing config file can simply be
informational, but of course the necessary file should be created at
the end of the install.

Offhand, the only way I would think something could go wrong would be
if you installed some part of X without installing all its required
packages; the basic configuration files are setup in some base
packages that are shared by many of the other X packages
(xfree86-common, I think).

On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 12:52:00AM -0400, Stephen Touset wrote:
> There is no Xfree config file anywhere in the system that I can tell.
> When I install X, it tells me that it hasn't found the files, so it
> won't update them. The problem is that they're just not being created.
> 



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Re: TV-out without X

2003-08-26 Thread Deb
I believe Freevo also supports frame buffer mode. This means older/slower
PCs can play divx/xvid videos as X is a bit of a hog.


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> Hi,
>
> my Linux box is running woody, but without X.
>
> I'd like to play DivX videos on this machine, still without X,
> viewing the output over the TV-out port of the video card.
>
> My questions are:
>
> - is this possible?
> - is there a non-X DivX-capable media player?
> - which video card with TV-out would be best for this?
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Sebastian
>
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Re: ssh tunneling

2003-08-26 Thread Jesse Meyer
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003, Colin Watson wrote:

> On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 02:01:05AM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> > ..no rule witout exeption: these 2 minutes _are_ useful in tarpits, 
> > to help slow vira propagation:
> 
> That's a new plural of "virus" to me ...
> 
> [ SNIP explanation of latin plurals ]
> 
> This concludes today's pedantry.]

I enjoy my daily dose of pedantry.

However, the way I was taught it was that `virus' was already a plural 
/did not have a plural in latin.

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Re: Re: Problems with xserver-xfree86

2003-08-26 Thread Bijan Soleymani

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On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 12:52:00AM -0400, Stephen Touset wrote:
> There is no Xfree config file anywhere in the system that I can tell.
> When I install X, it tells me that it hasn't found the files, so it
> won't update them. The problem is that they're just not being created.

You can run xf86cfg (graphical configuration program) or xf86config
(text based configuration program) to set up X. Both come with the
standard XFree distribution (I don't know if they come with the standard
deb files though).

Bijan

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Re: other debian installer tactic?

2003-08-26 Thread Stephane
Le Mon, 25 Aug 2003 20:39:08 +0200
Alfredo Valles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a dit:

Hello,

> I know this have been discussed many times. But I still not happy. (Sorry)

It seems that a lot of people have troubles with the Debian installer.
Once you know it well it can do what you want: tasksel is simple,
dselect is powerful. Refuse to use them and you have a very minimal
system that you can tune a lot.

But all the modern distro installers are easier, true, and sometimes
extremely powerful too. So what's the problem ? I guess the installer
wasn't a priority for Woody and previous Debians. As a matter of fact
I heard this should change for the next release (December if things
don't slow down): until then there's not much to say about this. Either
you deal with it, either you go for something else (this is what you did
with Knoppix: I wouldn't do it, but if you're happy with it, this is cool.). 

Or perhaps you want to suggest, request features ? I think there is probably
a way to do this and someone else will be able to tell us the best way ?

Just my two cents.


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Re: Best Way to Look at Streaming Video

2003-08-26 Thread Chris Black
Ross Boylan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Discussion a few months ago mentioned http://marillat.free.fr/ both
> for the realplayer for Debian package (which  no longer seems to be
> there) and for mplayer (about which there were mixed comments).
> 
> I see several packages providing quicktime support (xine, xmovie,
> xanim) and don't know if one is obviously better (or better at
> integrating into mozilla).
> 
> Any thoughts?

marillat also offers the mplayer-mozilla plugin which allows mplayer to
be embedded into mozilla and play the filetypes supported by mplayer.
The only caveat is that it does not yet support any sort of cookies or
authentication. If that is a necessity your best bet is probably the
Crossover plugin from Codeweavers. I believe there are similar types of
plugins for Xine but I don't have any experience with them.

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Re: other debian installer tactic?

2003-08-26 Thread Paul Johnson
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On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 08:39:08PM +0200, Alfredo Valles wrote:
> Why not to release a basic knoppix-like CD with the most common desktop 
> applications that 99% of people would want?

Why do that when Knoppix already fills that niche and debian-installer
is going to be out in December?

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Re: nfs use-once-only?

2003-08-26 Thread Erik Rask
On Mon, 25 Aug 2003, Richard Lyons wrote:

> I was so thrilled to get nfs working (laptop to workstation) for the first 
> time yesterday.  But today I get 
>mount: RPC: Unable to receive; errno = Connection refused
> every time.  So I tried in the other direction.  Set up /etc/export and 
> /etc/hosts.allow and - easy - it connects.  But only once.  Unmount the 
> share, and all subsequent attemps to mount are met with 
>mount: RPC: Unable to receive; errno = Connection refused
> 
> So I seem to have configured a one-time connection.  Not quite what I 
> intended.  Any ideas?
> 

I had the same problem with the testing version. This is (was?) a bug in
nfs-kernel-server/testing. Either go back to stable with:
> apt-get install --reinstall nfs-kernel-server/stable
and then put it on hold with dselect and keep an eye out for when it is
fixed. Another option is to upgrade it to unstable (s/stable/unstable in
the command line above), I believe the bug is fixed there.

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Re: Best Way to Look at Streaming Video

2003-08-26 Thread Bijan Soleymani

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On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 10:22:19PM -0700, Ross Boylan wrote:
> I wanted to look at a video on a web site that offered it in
> RealPlayer, QuickTime, and Windows Media Player format.  To my suprise
> (since I had installed RealPlayer) I couldn't, and this led to some
> questions that perhaps people here could answer.
>=20
> Which of these formats would be the best choice for Debian (I do have
> some windows partitions, though I don't think I've installed any of
> the recent MediaPlayer stuff)?  Ideally, I want it to work through my
> mozilla 1.4 browser, built with gcc 3.3.
>=20
> What are the best tools to view these formats?

My favorite media player of all time is mplayer. It is amazing! It
outshines every other media player ever conceived.

You can get the source from:
http://www.mplayerhq.hu

There are unofficial deb files somewhere on the net, but this is one
program that is worth compiling from source.

It handles windows media player natively. And with the appropriate
plugins (available on the site) it can handle quicktime and real formats
as well. The next big release (1.0 should be out any day now) will have
native quicktime (with some older native real stuff) included.

> Discussion a few months ago mentioned http://marillat.free.fr/ both
> for the realplayer for Debian package (which  no longer seems to be
> there) and for mplayer (about which there were mixed comments).

This source should have binaries of mplayer.

> I see several packages providing quicktime support (xine, xmovie,
> xanim) and don't know if one is obviously better (or better at
> integrating into mozilla).

Again there is some mozilla plugin to integrate stuff in, I usually
extract the url and feed it to mplayer. That works for me.

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Re: Stripped down versions of software

2003-08-26 Thread Paul Johnson
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On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 01:20:52PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
> Or links.  Once I found links I gave up on lynx.  Something about doing
> tables properly.  :)

I never understood why the lynx team had such a hard time with that
one.  I remember using lynx at the library on a WYSE terminal in
elementary school (I'm 21) before tables came out and it was a
mindblowing web-browser considering the limitations of the medium[0].
And then tables happened.  And lynx couldn't figure out what to do
with it and just said [TABLE], with no way to view the darn table
without viewing source.  Then lynx got table support, and it was a
good start.  But then they never went anywhere with it.

lynx used to be the state of the art browser on the console.  But then
it's like they lost the will to live or something.  I'm glad to see
elinks take up where lynx lets off.



[0] I mean, you are basically doing desktop publishing in an 80x24
space trying to render a webpage on a tty.

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Re: Best Way to Look at Streaming Video

2003-08-26 Thread Todd Pytel
On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 22:22:19 -0700
Ross Boylan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I wanted to look at a video on a web site that offered it in
> RealPlayer, QuickTime, and Windows Media Player format.  To my suprise
> (since I had installed RealPlayer) I couldn't, and this led to some
> questions that perhaps people here could answer.
> 
> Which of these formats would be the best choice for Debian (I do have
> some windows partitions, though I don't think I've installed any of
> the recent MediaPlayer stuff)?  Ideally, I want it to work through my
> mozilla 1.4 browser, built with gcc 3.3.

I've not yet found any universal solution, but I am awfully happy with
gxine.  Sadly, it's not a Debian package, but it's a very simple compile
- just a frontend to xine, really.  It deals with web media far better
than mplayer-plugin did for me.  While I prefer (g)mplayer's interface
for watching full length movies/TV, gxine is nice and simple - good for
catching a quick clip when you don't want to fish around for buttons and
menus.

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Re: Stripped down versions of software

2003-08-26 Thread Steve Lamb
On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 23:34:34 -0700
Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I never understood why the lynx team had such a hard time with that
> one.  I remember using lynx at the library on a WYSE terminal in
> elementary school (I'm 21) before tables came out and it was a
> mindblowing web-browser considering the limitations of the medium[0].

Yup.  I remember first using lynx way back when I was still on my
Slackware box.  It was great for the quick Yahoo! searches when I was being a
snarky chanop on a #linux channel.  "That can be answered with a 2 word Yahoo!
search.  Have you even tried!?"  

But like many programs it just got outclassed.  Seems like the natural
progression of programs in open source.  Evolve or get overrun.  :)

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Re: Help Please!!

2003-08-26 Thread Kent West
William Bradley wrote:

On Monday 25 August 2003 11:09 pm, Kent West wrote:
 

Mostly likely the protocol is wrong. I don't remember; is this a wheel
mouse? If so, try "fuimps2". You can also type "help" when asked for the
type during "gpmconfig" for a list of other protocols to try. Experiment
and see if you get any motion.
   

If we had web cams you could see an old geezer dancing a slightly arthritic 
jig. Clicked on "help" as you suggested. Tried one, forget which, did not 
work, and then I tried "fuimps2" and tested it. Bumped the mouse accidentally 
and it moved. Nearly fell off my chair!! After five days, there finally is 
movement. 

What is next, restart X windows?
 

Whoo-hoo!

Okay, make sure that gpm is configured to repeat "raw" (either edit 
/etc/gpm.conf, or better, re-run gpmconfig).

Then run "dpkg-reconfigure xfree86-server" (or is it "xfree86-common"? I 
can never remember) and when you get to the mouse location section, set 
it to /etc/gpmdata instead of /etc/psaux. (You'd leave it at /etc/psaux 
if you weren't running gpm.)

That should fix your mouse issue in X. Now you can remove the "exit 0" 
from "/etc/init.d/[xwgk]dm" and either reboot or run 
"/etc/init.d/[xwgk]dm start" to take you back to your graphical login 
screen.

Hopefully you're all set to go now.

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Re: TV-out without X

2003-08-26 Thread mody
Hi!

On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 11:38:37PM -0500, Alex Malinovich wrote:
> The only way I've EVER done TV-out from a computer has been with my
> laptop, which is using an ATI Mobility M4.

Could You tell me if the laptop has TV-out or You manage to connect TV
through external monitor connector? I have Acer TravelMate with ATI Radeon
Mobility M6 LY and there is no TV-out. Is there any HOWTO?

Thanks.

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Re: Problems with xserver-xfree86

2003-08-26 Thread Kent West
Stephen Touset wrote:

There is no Xfree config file anywhere in the system that I can tell.
When I install X, it tells me that it hasn't found the files, so it
won't update them. The problem is that they're just not being created.
 

It should be in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4.

If not, try "apt-get install xerver-xfree86 xserver-common xbase-clients 
xfonts-100dpi xfonts-75dpi xfonts-scalable xfonts-base" and then run 
"startx" and see what that does for you.

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Debian security prb

2003-08-26 Thread Frédéric Aliotti


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I have installed Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 rl
"Woody" Official i386.
I'm trying to use an application called Cyberdocs on
this computer : this application have to open OpenOffice.org to convert
word documents to XML. This process is triggered by a java application.
Everything is properly installed.

My problem is that OpenOffice.org can't be oppened by Cyberdocs : I get
this message : java.net.ConnectException: Connection refused
...
I don't have this problem when I use Redhat or Mandrake.
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Re: TV-out without X

2003-08-26 Thread Alex Malinovich
On Tue, 2003-08-26 at 01:59, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 11:38:37PM -0500, Alex Malinovich wrote:
> > The only way I've EVER done TV-out from a computer has been with my
> > laptop, which is using an ATI Mobility M4.
> 
> Could You tell me if the laptop has TV-out or You manage to connect TV
> through external monitor connector? I have Acer TravelMate with ATI Radeon
> Mobility M6 LY and there is no TV-out. Is there any HOWTO?

Mine has an actual TV-Out connector. I'm afraid I know nothing about
doing a VGA-out to TV-out connection. (I don't even know if it's
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Re: TV-out without X

2003-08-26 Thread mody
On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 02:26:41AM -0500, Alex Malinovich wrote:
> Mine has an actual TV-Out connector. I'm afraid I know nothing about

I see. :-(

> doing a VGA-out to TV-out connection. (I don't even know if it's
> possible.)

I think it is possible. But there is lot of tweaking with framebuffer... I'm
too lazy to try.

Thanks.

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Re: Stripped down versions of software

2003-08-26 Thread Geordie Birch
Jesse Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [25 Aug 2003 15:08 -0500]:
> (ratpoison is an interesting window manager since it is very 
> minimal and maximizes each window - I find it useful for 640x480
> resolutions, but at 800x600, lines get too long in terminals for 
> my tastes)

You could use a larger font.

> Dillo is probably a better choice.
> 
> For non-graphical, check out w3m or lynx.

I use ratpoison and dillo on a Pentium 200 MHz w/40MB RAM.

"w3m-img provides some utilities to support inline images for w3m
on terminal emulator in X Window System environments and linux
framebuffer."

Dillo renders faster than w3m with images, don't know which one 
uses more memory.  w3m's scrolling with images is pretty rough.

Lynx on the console will launch zgv to display images, one at a time.

Geordie.


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COBOL compiler

2003-08-26 Thread Alex Malinovich
I've, unfortunately, been forced into taking a COBOL class as a
requirement for getting my BS. (And that's just what it is, a load of
BS...) What's worse is that I can't seem to find any Free COBOL tools.
'apt-cache search cobol' returns 3 hits, all of which are documentation
utilities. Any suggestions? Or am I going to be stuck using school PC's
loaded with Windows and more proprietary software than you can shake a
warez-kiddie at?

(Most of which comes with licenses so lax and reasonable that they stop
just short of executing you and 3 generations of your family for not
including a proper copyright notice any time you use two or more letters
present in the product name in a sentence. Whoops! There goes the
family! :)

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Re: postfix + mutt questions

2003-08-26 Thread Mihalis I. Tsoukalos
On Fri, Aug 22, 2003 at 09:00:57PM +0300, Manolis Tzanidakis wrote:
> [20030822] Mihalis I. Tsoukalos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > So, in order to make user root get its email, should I put root: root in
> > the aliases file? Seems a little bizzare :-)
> 
> Check http://www.postfix.org/faq.html#root & u'll figure out
> yourself if u should do something like that.
> 
> > Seems a little bizzare :-)
> 
> Paranoia is always bizzare :D
> 
> ps. If you' re trying to setup a simple mail relay to your 
> isp's (or freemail.gr's) smtp with fetchmail+procmail for 
> receiving mails, check :
> http://hints.linuxfromscratch.org/hints/postfix_fetchmail_procmail.txt
> 
> it's quite helpful...

Hi Manoli.
You are right. Many thanks for the useful info.

Mihalis.

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2003-08-26 Thread Bertrand HENRY

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Re: ssh tunneling

2003-08-26 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 12:38:40AM -0500, Jesse Meyer wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Aug 2003, Colin Watson wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 02:01:05AM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> > > ..no rule witout exeption: these 2 minutes _are_ useful in tarpits, 
> > > to help slow vira propagation:
> > 
> > That's a new plural of "virus" to me ...
> > 
> > [ SNIP explanation of latin plurals ]
> > 
> > This concludes today's pedantry.]
> 
> I enjoy my daily dose of pedantry.
> 
> However, the way I was taught it was that `virus' was already a plural 
> /did not have a plural in latin.

As I said:

> > Anyway, there are no recorded instances of a Latin plural of
> > "virus", because its meaning back then was abstract and not
> > something you could really pluralize.

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Re: how to adapt this iptables setup?

2003-08-26 Thread HdV
On 25 Aug 2003, Bret Comstock Waldow wrote:

> His system comes in two/three parts.  There's an iptables_pre script
> which fits simply into the Debian init system - put it in /etc/init.d
> and use update-rc.d defaults to plug in the symlinks so it runs before
> the network is up.  It locks everything closed and optionally has
> support for alternatives to dhclient if that's not what I use.
>
> The second/third parts run after the network is up.  He writes:
>
> "Now that the iptables_pre script will protect the system while the
> network interfaces are being brought up, it is time to arrange for the
> main script, rc.fwsoho ... to be invoked on bootup.  While we could
> invoke it the same way we invoked iptables_pre, instead we will use a
> real rc.d-style script to invoke it.  This rc.d-style script is based on
> Red Hat 7.3 iptables startup script but has been modified to generate a
> message and error exit if IP Tables is not available."

I am not trying to be smarter than Bob (I read his book too), but...

Why would one burden the system with stuff that's only needed when a
network interface is up? Why not just use the pre-up and post-down
directives for the chosen interface? To me that seems to be a more
natural place to put this stuff.

I am not sure if it will be useful for what you're trying to accomplish,
but I have described what I think is a good way to initialize the
firewall at

http://huizen.dto.tudelft.nl/devries/security/iptables_example.html

Of course There's More Than One Way To Do It, so if it is not applicable
to your situation just ignore my blathering }:-)

> He instructs me to copy rc.fwsoho into /etc/rc.d, i

I am afraid there is no /etc/rc.d in Debian GNU/Linux.

> then put iptables
> (script) into init.d and symlink it in (the update-rc.d step in
> Debian).  iptables is hard coded to call /etc/rc.d/rc.fwsoho on the
> appropriate "start".

??? Does that mean your version of iptables has been compiled with such
an instruction? Otherwise it is just a shell script with a series
of instructions, this should include the usual "start|stop|restart"
commands and the policy/ruleset to aply.

> Ok.  There is no /etc/rc.d in my Debian system.  /etc/rcX.d has some
> meaning beyond just being another place to gather files - it corresponds
> to runlevel X, and gets swept automatically as the system passes through
> that runlevel.  What is the meaning and equivalent of /etc/rc.d?  The
> other directories referenced appear to exist.

You should use /etc/init.d to place this type of thing in. After that
you can make a symlink in the appropriate run-level directory /etc/rcx.d
from where it will be called. Take a look in those directories and
you'll see that's how all the other scripts in there are initialized. One
thing though: under Debian GNU/Linux the differences between the
run-levels are as not strictly defined as in RedHat.

> To those who want to tell me why I shouldn't use his approach, I welcome
> the comments, I'll learn from them.  But please also tell me the answers
> to the questions above, so I can get a context to put it all in.

I hope that's what I did `;-)

Grx HdV




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Re: nfs use-once-only? - SOLVED

2003-08-26 Thread Richard Lyons
On Tuesday 26 August 2003 08:21, Erik Rask wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Aug 2003, Richard Lyons wrote:
> > I was so thrilled to get nfs working (laptop to workstation) for the
> > first time yesterday.  But today I get
> >mount: RPC: Unable to receive; errno = Connection refused
> > every time.  So I tried in the other direction.  Set up /etc/export and
> > /etc/hosts.allow and - easy - it connects.  But only once.  Unmount the
> > share, and all subsequent attemps to mount are met with
> >mount: RPC: Unable to receive; errno = Connection refused
> >
> > So I seem to have configured a one-time connection.  Not quite what I
> > intended.  Any ideas?
>
> I had the same problem with the testing version. This is (was?) a bug in
>
> nfs-kernel-server/testing. Either go back to stable with:
> > apt-get install --reinstall nfs-kernel-server/stable
>
> and then put it on hold with dselect and keep an eye out for when it is
> fixed. Another option is to upgrade it to unstable (s/stable/unstable in
> the command line above), I believe the bug is fixed there.

Unstable did not work either (and gave me arun-around with dependencies 
first!).  But stable is fine.  All back in order now.  Thanks.

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Re: Re: Wicked screensaver (verification)

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Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs

2003-08-26 Thread Alphonse Ogulla
Hi all,
Just compiled kernel 2.4.21 but cannot boot it despite creating the initrd 
image and respective links in / to files in /boot. 
The last 5 lines printed on screen before hang-up are printed below.

RAMDISK: Couldn't find valid RAM disk image starting at 0.
Freeing initrd memory: 2664k freed
VFS: Cannot open root device "301" or 03:01
Please append a correct "root=" boot option
Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 03:01

Passing root=/dev/hda1 to lilo at boot time did not bear fruit.
Created initrd as follows:
# mkinitrd -o /boot/initrd.img-2.4.21 /lib/modules/2.4.21

Added the following lines in lilo.conf before running lilo.
.
image=/vmlinuz-2.4.21 initrd=/initrd.img-2.4.21
label=2.4.21
root=/dev/hda1
read-only

Grateful for any assistance in resolving this difficulty.

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make-kpkg compiled kernel is too big

2003-08-26 Thread Alphonse Ogulla
Compiled kernel 2.4.21 using make-kpkg but got the following error on running 
lilo:-
Warning: Int 0x13 function 8 and function 0x48 return different
head/sector geometries for BIOS drive 0x80
Added 2.4.18 *
Added 2.4.21
Added 2.2.20
Fatal: Kernel /boot/vmlinux is too big

compiled kernel as follows:-
atlas:/usr/src/linux# make-kpkg --initrd clean kernel_image
and also tried
atlas:/usr/src/linux# make-kpkg clean binary

Where could I be going wrong?

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Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren,

2003-08-26 Thread Pelger
Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren,

wir haben Ihre Nachricht erhalten. Wir werden sie unverzüglich bearbeiten. Nach der 
Bearbeitung erhalten Sie von uns eine Bestätigung.

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Re: COBOL compiler

2003-08-26 Thread Elizabeth Barham
Alex writes:

> I've, unfortunately, been forced into taking a COBOL class as a
> requirement for getting my BS. (And that's just what it is, a load
> of BS...) What's worse is that I can't seem to find any Free COBOL
> tools.  'apt-cache search cobol' returns 3 hits, all of which are
> documentation utilities. Any suggestions? Or am I going to be stuck
> using school PC's loaded with Windows and more proprietary software
> than you can shake a warez-kiddie at?

Whilst looking for one I knew about in the early 90's I found this:

http://www.thefreecountry.com/compilers/cobol.shtml

and this has a debian package:

 http://tiny-cobol.sourceforge.net/snapshots.html

hth, Elizabeth


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Undo of mkfs - urgent

2003-08-26 Thread Manfred Heubach
Hello,

I've accidently used mkfs.ext3 on the wrong harddisk (used hdb3 instead of hda3). Is 
there any way to recover the files on this partition? There is no backup copy of this 
partition.
If it is not possible to recover the files or filesystemstructure maybe it's possible 
to extract some files from the raw device. Except of running mkfs no data has been 
written to that disk.
I had 5 zipped tar files (about 800MB each) on this partition. Maybe it's possible to 
recover at least these files. If tar files all start and end with the same sequence of 
bytes there should be a chance of finding them on the 20GB HDD. Does anyone no how to 
identify tarfiles in raw partition data?

Any help is welcome

Regards
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Re: Crashes during daily cron job

2003-08-26 Thread Attilio Cucchieri

On Mon, Aug 12, 2002 at 09:13:12PM -0600, James Roberge wrote:
>
> Hey everyone.  I seem to be having a little problem on my debian system.  It
> seems that the system is crashing during the daily cron job.  But, it DOES
> NOT happen every day.
>
> Here is a snip from /var/log/syslog... note timestamps.
>
> Aug 12 06:23:01 lebeau /USR/SBIN/CRON[3163]: (mail) CMD (  if [ -x
> /usr/sbin/exim -a -f /etc/exim/exim.conf ]; then /usr/sbin/exim -q ; fi)
> Aug 12 06:25:01 lebeau /USR/SBIN/CRON[3167]: (root) CMD (test -e
> /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily)
> Aug 12 18:21:32 lebeau syslogd 1.4.1#10: restart.
> Aug 12 18:21:32 lebeau kernel: klogd 1.4.1#10, log source = /proc/kmsg
> started.
>
> I tried to locate which script that it was crashing on.  So... i did a
>
> run-parts --verbose /etc/cron.daily
>
> The first time i ran it, it went ok but the second time i ran it, it got
> as far as /etc/cron.daily/standard and then the host went down (locks right
> up, even the console is totally FROZEN.
>
> here is a list of my /etc/cron.daily
>
> -rwxr-xr-x1 root root  502 Jul  4 16:13 calendar*
> -rwxr-xr-x1 root root  669 Mar  4 17:05 exim*
> -rwxr-xr-x1 root root  277 Jun  1  2001 find*
> -rwxr-xr-x1 root root   51 Apr 23 17:19 logrotate*
> -rwxr-xr-x1 root root  708 Mar 14 19:48 man-db*
> -rwxr-xr-x1 root root   86 Sep 27  2001 modutils*
> -rwxr-xr-x1 root root  495 Nov 18  2001 netkit-inetd*
> -rwxr-xr-x1 root root  383 Mar 13 15:57 samba*
> -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 2736 Oct  1  2001 standard*
> -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 1197 Jan  3  2002 sysklogd*
>
> Now, i dont know if it was standard or sysklogd, i am logging in remotely
> and it might have choked on sysklogd and crashed before it displayed it.
>
> I tried running standard and sysklogd by themselves, but it did not crash.
>
> Some more info that might help
>
> uname -a> Linux lebeau 2.4.19 #1 Mon Aug 5 00:28:12 CDT 2002 i586 unknown
>
> cat /etc/debian_version
> 3.0
>
> I am really at my wits end here, does anyone have any idea what is going on
> here?
>
> James Roberge
>


I am having similar problems with my server. Did you find out
at the end what was the problem? Hardware? Software?

Thanks,
  Attilio Cucchieri

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Re: Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs

2003-08-26 Thread Joris Huizer

--- Alphonse Ogulla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all,
> Just compiled kernel 2.4.21 but cannot boot it
> despite creating the initrd 
> image and respective links in / to files in /boot. 
> The last 5 lines printed on screen before hang-up
> are printed below.
> 
> RAMDISK: Couldn't find valid RAM disk image starting
> at 0.
> Freeing initrd memory: 2664k freed
> VFS: Cannot open root device "301" or 03:01
> Please append a correct "root=" boot option
> Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 03:01
> 
> Passing root=/dev/hda1 to lilo at boot time did not
> bear fruit.
> Created initrd as follows:
> # mkinitrd -o /boot/initrd.img-2.4.21
> /lib/modules/2.4.21
> 
> Added the following lines in lilo.conf before
> running lilo.
> .
> image=/vmlinuz-2.4.21 initrd=/initrd.img-2.4.21
>   label=2.4.21
>   root=/dev/hda1
>   read-only
> 
> Grateful for any assistance in resolving this
> difficulty.
> 
> -- 
> Alphonse Ogulla
> Nairobi, Kenya
> 

Check that:

 - under "File systems", "Second extended fs support"
has "y" 
 - under "Block devices", "Normal PC floppy disk
support" has "y"
 - under "ATA/IDE/MFM/RLL support", "IDE, ATA and
ATAPI Block devices" has "y"
   - under submenu "IDE, ATA and ATAPI Block Devices",
   "Enhanced IDE/MFM/RLL disk/cdrom/tape/floppy
support" and "Include IDE/ATA-2 DISK support" have "y"
clicked.

This helped me to solve similar problems - I hope
it'll help you too

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Re: other debian installer tactic?

2003-08-26 Thread debjan

It seems that a lot of people have troubles with the Debian installer.
Once you know it well it can do what you want: tasksel is simple,
dselect is powerful. Refuse to use them and you have a very minimal
system that you can tune a lot.
the minimal system thing and the opportunity to do what you want is what 
made me switch to debian. i hate em automatic installers that do things i 
don't know about. that's why i don't like SuSE and all that lot...
for all em users that "don't want to know why their computer works" there 
should of course be another option than switching to Mac OS... 

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Re: ssh tunneling

2003-08-26 Thread Benedict Verheyen
Op di 26-08-2003, om 02:24 schreef Colin Watson:
> On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 02:01:05AM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:

> That's a new plural of "virus" to me ...
> 
> ["viri" and "virii" are both wrong. The first is made up by assuming
> that "virus" is a Latin masculine second declension noun, which it's not
> (it's neuter), and "viri" is actually the plural of "vir" and means
> "men". The second is just utterly weird, though strangely popular, and
> is constructed on top of a made-up second declension noun, "virius".
> "vira" is probably better than anything else, because at least it's
> neuter, but really seems more like the plural of "virum". Anyway, there
> are no recorded instances of a Latin plural of "virus", because its
> meaning back then was abstract and not something you could really
> pluralize. The only English plural of the word is simply "viruses".
> 
> This concludes today's pedantry.]
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> -- 
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> 

Wow, i never thought i would get some Latin education on a Debian email
list :) I always wondered about this, yet never found an answer up until
now. How can one not love Debian and it's mailing list! Thanks Colin :)

Benedict


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Re: COBOL compiler

2003-08-26 Thread Ron Johnson
On Tue, 2003-08-26 at 03:35, Alex Malinovich wrote:
> I've, unfortunately, been forced into taking a COBOL class as a
> requirement for getting my BS. (And that's just what it is, a load of
> BS...) What's worse is that I can't seem to find any Free COBOL tools.
> 'apt-cache search cobol' returns 3 hits, all of which are documentation
> utilities. Any suggestions? Or am I going to be stuck using school PC's
> loaded with Windows and more proprietary software than you can shake a
> warez-kiddie at?

Too bad you have such a negative view of COBOL.  In the hands of
someone with a brain, it's quite a powerful and modular language.

http://www.thekompany.com/products/kobol/
http://www.thekompany.com/products/kobol/demo.php3

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Re: other debian installer tactic?

2003-08-26 Thread Peter Nuttall
On Tuesday 26 Aug 2003 12:55 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >It seems that a lot of people have troubles with the Debian installer.
> >Once you know it well it can do what you want: tasksel is simple,
> >dselect is powerful. Refuse to use them and you have a very minimal
> >system that you can tune a lot.
>
> the minimal system thing and the opportunity to do what you want is what
> made me switch to debian. i hate em automatic installers that do things i
> don't know about. that's why i don't like SuSE and all that lot...
> for all em users that "don't want to know why their computer works" there
> should of course be another option than switching to Mac OS...

I find  that with debian you only have to do one install and then apt-get 
upgrade keeps you up to date. with SuSE and Red Hat you have to install the 
next version to get latest software. This is why I moved to debian. I find 
tasksel too clumsy to use and if I was installing again I would just install 
a minimal system. synaptic is easier to use than dselect so if you run X all 
the time you should use it. 

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Prevent X Windows Starting up

2003-08-26 Thread Sarah Forbes
Hi,

I have an install of the unstable distribution with a 2.4 Kernel. When I
boot up, my keyboard and mouse become disabled as soon as the log in
manager displays.
Can you tell me how to stop x-windows from starting during the boot
process so that I can try and find the cause of the issue. I cannot
disable x windows from the command line because I can never get in.
If you have any clues as to what might be causing my keyboard to disable
in the first place, I would be very grateful to hear them.
Many Thanks
Sarah
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Re: Looking for a simple SSL-CA package

2003-08-26 Thread William Cooper
Tarjei Huse wrote:

Hi, I'd like to thank all who contributed. 
 

If you don't want to run your own certificate authority or pay a
commercial one to sign your key, and you don't have a lot of
certificates to deal with, you can have each key simply be self-signed,
which I believe is what's being recommended here.
   

Actually, there are a number of reasons why I want to run a more fully featured CA:
-> I'd like to use certs for authenticating slave openldapservers.  
-> I want to use the certs to let laptopusers send mail through my
mailservers.
-> I want to have a system to let pops and imaps users install the
certificates on their machines through a simple webinterface.
-> It has to be operated w/o a gui.

I think I'll end up with pyca (www.pyca.org) as it seems to have most of
these features in place. The other possibilities are openca which is
IMHO to complicated for my needs and tinyca (that many on this list
suggested) that doesn't (please correct me if I'm wrong) give me the
finished scripts for importing certs in outlook, IE, Mozilla and other
programs.
If there are other alternatives out there, please let me know. Again, I
thank you for your contributions.
Tarjei
 

noah

   



 

try CSP at http://devel.it.su.se/projects/CSP/ its what I tested. Seems 
to do what I need.

Bill

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Re: Prevent X Windows Starting up

2003-08-26 Thread Richard Lyons
On Tuesday 26 August 2003 14:58, Sarah Forbes wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have an install of the unstable distribution with a 2.4 Kernel. When I
> boot up, my keyboard and mouse become disabled as soon as the log in
> manager displays.
>
> Can you tell me how to stop x-windows from starting during the boot
> process so that I can try and find the cause of the issue. I cannot
> disable x windows from the command line because I can never get in.

This sort of thing is one of the reasons I always use a text login.  IIRC, 
what I did to prevent X starting was the brute-force method of unlinking all 
the kdm, gdm, xdm links in /etc/rc2.d.  That should do it, if no more elegant 
approach is suggested.

>
> If you have any clues as to what might be causing my keyboard to disable
> in the first place, I would be very grateful to hear them.

That'll need someone more expert than me...

HTH

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Re: Prevent X Windows Starting up

2003-08-26 Thread Chris Black
Sarah Forbes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have an install of the unstable distribution with a 2.4 Kernel. When I
> boot up, my keyboard and mouse become disabled as soon as the log in
> manager displays.
> 
> Can you tell me how to stop x-windows from starting during the boot
> process so that I can try and find the cause of the issue. I cannot
> disable x windows from the command line because I can never get in.
> 
> If you have any clues as to what might be causing my keyboard to disable
> in the first place, I would be very grateful to hear them.

You could boot the kernel in single user mode which should cause the
display manager not to be started and then disable or remove its init.d
script. Or if you have an OpenSSH server running on the box you could login that
way from another machine and shut down the display manager.

--Chris


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Re: SMTP over SSH

2003-08-26 Thread Murray J. Brown

> Alex Malinovich wrote:
> > I have my laptop set up to work fine with my home mail server from just
> > about anywhere. The only problem is that I have a couple of classes that
> > I use my laptop for which block certain ports for the network. One of
> > those ports is 25. So I'm able to read my mail just fine over IMAP, I
> > just can't send any outgoing mail. I need some way to get around this.
> > 
[...snip...]

You might try SMTP over SSL (port 465) if your MTA supports it and the
firewall(s) permit it. Then you might also use client certificates for
relatively seamless and strong authentication.

...mjb



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Re: COBOL compiler

2003-08-26 Thread Mark Roach
On Tue, 2003-08-26 at 08:52, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On Tue, 2003-08-26 at 03:35, Alex Malinovich wrote:
> > I've, unfortunately, been forced into taking a COBOL class as a
> > requirement for getting my BS. (And that's just what it is, a load of
> > BS...) What's worse is that I can't seem to find any Free COBOL tools.
[snip]
> Too bad you have such a negative view of COBOL.  In the hands of
> someone with a brain, it's quite a powerful and modular language.

That's a bit harsh, Ron. He said he was forced into taking the class,
not that COBOL sucked. And even if he had, no need to get your hackles
up.

-Mark


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Re: Undo of mkfs - urgent

2003-08-26 Thread Brian Stults
Manfred Heubach wrote:
Hello,

I've accidently used mkfs.ext3 on the wrong harddisk (used hdb3 instead of hda3). Is 
there any way to recover the files on this partition? There is no backup copy of this 
partition.
If it is not possible to recover the files or filesystemstructure maybe it's possible 
to extract some files from the raw device. Except of running mkfs no data has been 
written to that disk.
I had 5 zipped tar files (about 800MB each) on this partition. Maybe it's possible to 
recover at least these files. If tar files all start and end with the same sequence of 
bytes there should be a chance of finding them on the 20GB HDD. Does anyone no how to 
identify tarfiles in raw partition data?
I would keep looking for a better solution than what I mention below, 
but if all else fails...

If nothing has been written to that disk since, you may be able to 
recover some of the files.  I can recommend two methods.

If there are specific types of files you want, you can use "foremost" 
(see http://www.samag.com/documents/s=8859/sam0309a/sam0309a.htm).  It 
allows you to specify a unique header and footer for a file type (e.g. 
ffd8 and ffd9 for jpeg).  It will then comb through your partition 
saving evertyhing between the headers and footers it finds.  It worked 
nearly perfectly for me to recover some digital photos.  I was able to 
cover 149 of 150.  The 150th was recovered, but had a black band near 
the bottom.  I suspect that some data was written over it.  It is also 
surprisingly fast.

The other tool, which is more popular but I had less success with, is 
the Coroner's Toolkit (TCT).  It is available as a deb (i.e. apt-get 
install tct).  You can use "unrm" to extract all allocated blocks to 
another partition.  Then you can use lazarus to go through all that 
output and try to identify and save files.  You need a lot of space for 
this.  I couldn't use unrm because it wouldn't read my version of 
reiserfs, but you can also use dd to pull the data.  The disadvantage is 
that dd pulls all blocks - both allocated and unallocated.  That takes 
even more space.

Good luck!

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Re: COBOL compiler

2003-08-26 Thread Kirk Strauser
At 2003-08-26T12:52:33Z, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Too bad you have such a negative view of COBOL.  In the hands of someone
> with a brain, it's quite a powerful and modular language.

All Turing-complete languages are equally powerful.  That doesn't mean that
any given one would fill me with a desire to start hacking around with it.

You know, I'd never seen Cobol before the screenshots on your link.  Those
just confirmed everything I've heard about it. :)
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