Hallo Adi , kennst du mich noch ?

[Sexylady]

  

  Hallo Debianuser !

 
Hehe , ist ganz 
  schöne lange her , aber solltest mich glaube ich noch kennen
  
 
  
Ich hab endlich meine Homepage , kannst sie dir ja mal anschauen : 
http://usuarios.lycos.es/lovelyday/cam.txt?sid=1510031A085F4F19120D4727190D164C1D4F030450191406171C1A0E59045144545D025C5B56
  konstruktive Kritik 
ist immer willkommen :-)

Meld dich mal 
  wieder...
 
Gruss u. Kuss


  
   
  
  




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Re: Desktop productivity with Debian GNU/LINUX

[Eduard Bloch]

#include 
* Hal Vaughan [Tue, Jan 21 2003, 01:52:40AM]:

> > Linux, being an OS by geeks for geeks, up until just recently, needs a
> > geek to get it set up properly. Mandrake and others have made vast
> > improvements, but it's not automatic. If you expect it to be, you'll be
> > disappointed. Wait another couple of years. Until then consider yourself
> > a consumer; as a general rule, consumers get their computers
> > pre-installed with an operating system and don't do their own OS
> > installation (although they might do a "restore" using the System
> > Restore disk that came with their computer).
> 
> At the risk of sounding like a troll, I have to take issue with this.  To be 
> even more blunt, this paragraph is, in my view, an example of some of the 
> worst geek snobbery and elitism I've seen online.

Bullshit. Truth is truth, even if it may hurt.

> I also have to ask how long it's been since you tried Mandrake last.  I found 
> Mandrake 8.0 to be great at detecting EVERYTHING on my system.  There was 
> basically NO post-install to deal with.  Printer drivers were there -- 
> everything I needed was there.

Maybe what you needed because your average system with carefully
choosen, linux-compliant hardware, perfectly matched the system that
Mandrake may support. But do you really think that a newbie is able to
compile a driver (module) manually if there is no free driver for it? Do
you really think a newbie is able to setup channels for a TV card
manually (seen last week on SuSE, nice GUI but braindead package pool,
no zapping, no scantv, broken xawtv, only old xawtv able to show at
least one channel). There are lots of things that are _not_ simple and
not prepared by some upstream/distributor/vendor. You can workaround
simple when you have some experience and are able to RTFM, but a newbie
looses.

> This is a user who obviously wants to learn more about computers and Linux, 
> but does not have the time to mess with selecting the necessary kernal 
> modules or with spending hours online tracking down drivers.  This does not 
> mean he is not ready for Linux.

When he posts such a large thing with only whinning instead of saying: I
tries this, this and this, and failed on those things, what's the
problem - then I cannot agree with you.

> I would STRONGLY recommend trying Mandrake.  While I have not had any problems 
> with Mandrake 9.0, I have heard of some people who have.  I found Mandrake 

Mandrake is not the cure of all problems.

> 8.2 to be solid and stable.  It's basically your choice -- I would think 
> either one would work fine.  One nice addition or change to Mandrake 9.0 is 
> that it does not require the user to mount/umount cd-roms when they are put 
> in or removed from a drive.

Fascinating, a new feature, hooray. I would be happy as windows user,
but that's something I would define as bugfix for a good distribution,
not more.

> While I don't think Linux is just for geeks anymore, I do think Debian is.  
> And, to be honest, I think the Debian developers and maintainers (and 
> administrators and others in charge) prefer it that way -- sort of a last 
> retreat for geeks as the Linux world goes more and more mainstream.

Who does pay us for this job? I guess you never tried to optimise
something for "end-user". It is painfull, time-expensive and does not
help your reputation. If you need a Mandrake-like Debian, get Xandros.

So, yes, Debian will be the most smooth distribution for people that can
_read_ and understand Unix concepts. I do not know many people that are
willing to create id^w(windows-user)-proof frontends for it.

Gruss/Regards,
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Re: GRUB -- hangs on boot

[Qian Gong]

Did you check the file device.map in your grub directory? If there is
nothing, you should create one.

Qian

On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 01:53:54PM -0600, will trillich wrote:
> any reason why grub would hang on startup? i see "GRUB" after
> the bios stuff, and then... nothing.
> 
> a friend suggested trying windo~1 fdisk to make it a fat32
> drive, wiping previous linux stuff off, then retrynig with a new
> linux (ext3) partition scheme. i tried that (i think) and still,
> hang on boot after seeing "GRUB".
> 
> is there a trick i missed in writing the boot sectors? (lilo
> worked on the machine in the past...)
> 
> -- 
> I use Debian/GNU Linux version 3.0;
> Linux server 2.2.17 #1 Sun Jun 25 09:24:41 EST 2000 i586 unknown
>  
> DEBIAN NEWBIE TIP #96 from Joost Kooij <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> :
> Did you know that you can SWITCH BETWEEN VIRTUAL CONSOLES using
> leftalt+cursor{left,right}? To change from vc4 to vc5, press
> alt-cursorright.  Going back to X from vc1 is as simple as
> alt-cursorleft. (It doesn't work when you're already within
> X11, though -- but control-alt-F1 does.)
> 
> Also see http://newbieDoc.sourceForge.net/ ...
> 
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Re: Is this normal with USB mice?

[Eduard Bloch]

#include 
* Jack [Mon, Jan 20 2003, 11:48:16PM]:
> Thanks for the hints.  I have almost the same configure as yours.  Would
> you try this for me when you by chance reboot your machine?  Unplug the
> USB mouse,  boot OS,  startx,  plugin the USB mouse.  Does the USB mouse
> work right away?  In my case,  "cat /dev/input/mice" trick works,  but
> the X does not detect the change.

There is a trick to feed X with apparently valid mouse device, install
the hotplug package and look in its config.

Gruss/Regards,
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Re: Is this normal with USB mice?

[Ayman Haidar]

On Tuesday 21 January 2003 12:48 am, Jack wrote:

> Thanks for the hints.  I have almost the same configure as yours.  Would
> you try this for me when you by chance reboot your machine?  Unplug the
> USB mouse,  boot OS,  startx,  plugin the USB mouse.  Does the USB mouse
> work right away?  In my case,  "cat /dev/input/mice" trick works,  but
> the X does not detect the change.

mine works OK as you described above, the modules that get loaded when I am 
using the USB mouse include 

mousedev3736   1
hid17924   0 (unused)
input   3296   0 [mousedev hid]
usb-uhci   21292   0 (unused)
usbcore55136   0 [hid usb-uhci]

I have noted the INPUT module is missing from your other post !!

Ayman


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Re: setup ofr the printer

[Joris Huizer]

--- Craig Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> You may want to install mpage and will need samba if
> it is a
> windows-shared printer.
> 
> ncpfs I believe is for netware-shared printers.
> 
> That first lp printer is a dummy entry and can be
> safely deleted.
> 
> Use printtool to autodetect your printer.
> 

I tried the printtool, but it won't work :-S I first
tried the autodetect but the prog doesn't seem to find
the printer - then I tried just adding it - but the
Lexmark Z31 is not in the list of printers ??



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fonts & sizes

[Joris Huizer]

Hello,

This is probably a bit silly but I really can't find
how to change the size of menu texts etc. 
I think they are a bit too big but I don't find how I
can change them ?? (I'm using the gdm)

thanks

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Mapping eth0 two ways

[Phil Reynolds]

If you read "man interfaces", an example set of stanzas is given which,
subject to an external script to determine whether the machine is at
home or at work, sets up eth0 to either have a static address or to
dhcp for one.

I would like to know how I can implement such a scheme, if I travel
with my laptop, which now seems probable.

Can anyone offer me some guidance?

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Re: Mapping eth0 two ways

[Ulf Katzenberger]

Hi ,

there is a package called netenv, use this for yout latpop,
here's the description:

netenv
Description: Configure your system for different network environments.
 Netenv creates a file containing variable assignments which reflect the
 current environment. It is especially useful for notebook computers, since
 it is used (if configured) by the PCMCIA setup scheme included in the
 Debian pcmcia-cs package and the plip setup script included as an example
 in this package.  You can also use netenv configure your windowmanager or
 your printing environment.
 .
 Note that you either have to specify a kernel parameter or enter the chosen
 environment by hand during boot time. The boot process will stop until you
 entered something.

Greetings

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Autofs

[Joakim Hove]

Hello,

I can not get autofs to work. I have installed autofs with

   bash% apt-get install autofs

And, then just tried to use the default /etc/auto.master and
/etc/auto.misc files which come with the package:


 /etc/auto.master:
 /-
 | # $Id: auto.master,v 1.2 1997/10/06 21:52:03 hpa Exp $
 | # Sample auto.master file
 | # Format of this file:
 | # mountpoint map options
 | # For details of the format look at autofs(5).
 | /var/autofs/misc /etc/auto.misc
 | /var/autofs/net  /etc/auto.net
 \-


 /etc/auto.misc:
 /-
 | # $Id: auto.misc,v 1.2 1997/10/06 21:52:04 hpa Exp $
 | # This is an automounter map and it has the following format
 | # key [ -mount-options-separated-by-comma ] location
 | # Details may be found in the autofs(5) manpage
 | 
 | kernel   -ro 
 |ftp.kernel.org:/pub/linux
 | boot -fstype=ext3:/dev/hda1
 | removable-fstype=ext2,sync,nodev,nosuid  :/dev/hdd
 | cd   -fstype=iso9660,ro,sync,nodev,nosuid:/dev/hdc
 | floppy   -fstype=auto,sync,nodev,nosuid  :/dev/fd0
 | local-fstype=ext3,ro,soft,intr,nosuid:/dev/hda5
 |
 | # Key "local" is added by me.
 \-


When I then first go to the mount-point /var/autofs/master, and thenthe configuration 
files
seem to
try:

   bash% cd kernel
   bash: cd: kernel: No such file or directory

Either I am doing something horribly wrong, or else the packaga seems
to ship with broken configuration files (but from my understanding of
the manual pages the config files are correct - so ...?).

Any tips appreciated.


Best Regards  -  Joakim Hove

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printing problem with netatalk: multiple copies

[Vera Friederichs]

Hi,
I have problems with the behaviour of lpr (woody). When I try to print something, the 
system 
sends (sometimes) an email, that the job could not be printed, but it is printed up to 
five times. 

I am using netatalk, but I do not know if it is part of the problem. 
I have found a problem description at
http://www.faqchest.com/linux/ATALK/linux-00/linux-0008/linux-000804/linux00081117_24803.html
but I am not really able to decide if that is also my problem. If yes, what else can I 
do except
hacking the code? 
If no, what can I do to find out what the problem is? 

/var/log/lpr.log says
...
Jan  8 18:00:43 Hypatia ofpap[1052]: starting for ?
Jan  8 18:00:43 Hypatia ofpap[1052]: sending to pap[1053]
Jan  8 18:00:43 Hypatia ofpap[1052]: straight text
Jan  8 18:00:45 Hypatia ofpap[1052]: 1053 done
Jan  8 18:00:45 Hypatia ofpap[1052]: pausing
Jan  8 18:00:45 Hypatia ifpap[1054]: starting for vera
Jan  8 18:00:45 Hypatia ifpap[1054]: accounting with psa[1055]
Jan  8 18:00:45 Hypatia ifpap[1054]: sending to pap[1056]
Jan  8 18:00:45 Hypatia ifpap[1054]: PostScript
Jan  8 18:00:54 Hypatia ifpap[1054]: 1056 done
Jan  8 18:00:54 Hypatia ifpap[1054]: 1055 died with 2
Jan  8 18:00:54 Hypatia lpd[1051]: P1: job could not be printed 
(cfA001Hypatia.math.uni-heidelberg.de)
Jan  8 18:00:54 Hypatia ofpap[1052]: restarting
Jan  8 18:00:54 Hypatia ofpap[1052]: done
Jan  9 10:55:55 Hypatia lpd[285]: restarted
Jan  9 11:35:25 Hypatia ofpap[506]: starting for ?
Jan  9 11:35:25 Hypatia ofpap[506]: sending to pap[507]
Jan  9 11:35:25 Hypatia ofpap[506]: straight text
Jan  9 11:35:28 Hypatia ofpap[506]: 507 done
Jan  9 11:35:28 Hypatia ofpap[506]: pausing
Jan  9 11:35:28 Hypatia ifpap[508]: starting for vera
Jan  9 11:35:28 Hypatia ifpap[508]: accounting with psa[509]
Jan  9 11:35:28 Hypatia ifpap[508]: sending to pap[510]
Jan  9 11:35:28 Hypatia ifpap[508]: PostScript
Jan  9 11:35:34 Hypatia ifpap[508]: 510 done
Jan  9 11:35:34 Hypatia ifpap[508]: wait3: No child processes
Jan  9 11:35:34 Hypatia lpd[505]: restarting P1
Jan  9 11:35:34 Hypatia ofpap[506]: restarting
Jan  9 11:35:34 Hypatia ofpap[506]: done
Jan  9 11:35:35 Hypatia ofpap[511]: starting for ?
Jan  9 11:35:35 Hypatia ofpap[511]: sending to pap[512]
Jan  9 11:35:35 Hypatia ofpap[511]: straight text
Jan  9 11:35:37 Hypatia ofpap[511]: 512 done
Jan  9 11:35:37 Hypatia ofpap[511]: pausing
Jan  9 11:35:37 Hypatia ifpap[513]: starting for vera
Jan  9 11:35:37 Hypatia ifpap[513]: accounting with psa[514]
Jan  9 11:35:37 Hypatia ifpap[513]: sending to pap[515]
Jan  9 11:35:37 Hypatia ifpap[513]: PostScript
Jan  9 11:35:45 Hypatia ifpap[513]: 515 done
Jan  9 11:35:45 Hypatia ifpap[513]: wait3: No child processes
Jan  9 11:35:45 Hypatia lpd[505]: restarting P1
Jan  9 11:35:45 Hypatia ofpap[511]: restarting
Jan  9 11:35:45 Hypatia ofpap[511]: done
Jan  9 11:35:45 Hypatia ofpap[517]: starting for ?
Jan  9 11:35:45 Hypatia ofpap[517]: sending to pap[518]
Jan  9 11:35:45 Hypatia ofpap[517]: straight text
Jan  9 11:35:47 Hypatia ofpap[517]: 518 done
Jan  9 11:35:47 Hypatia ofpap[517]: pausing
Jan  9 11:35:47 Hypatia ifpap[519]: starting for vera
Jan  9 11:35:47 Hypatia ifpap[519]: accounting with psa[520]
Jan  9 11:35:47 Hypatia ifpap[519]: sending to pap[521]
Jan  9 11:35:47 Hypatia ifpap[519]: PostScript
Jan  9 11:35:55 Hypatia ifpap[519]: 521 done
Jan  9 11:35:55 Hypatia ifpap[519]: wait3: No child processes
Jan  9 11:35:55 Hypatia lpd[505]: restarting P1
Jan  9 11:35:55 Hypatia ofpap[517]: restarting
Jan  9 11:35:55 Hypatia ofpap[517]: done
Jan  9 11:35:56 Hypatia ofpap[523]: starting for ?
Jan  9 11:35:56 Hypatia ofpap[523]: sending to pap[524]
Jan  9 11:35:56 Hypatia ofpap[523]: straight text
Jan  9 11:35:58 Hypatia ofpap[523]: 524 done
Jan  9 11:35:58 Hypatia ofpap[523]: pausing
Jan  9 11:35:58 Hypatia ifpap[525]: starting for vera
Jan  9 11:35:58 Hypatia ifpap[525]: accounting with psa[526]
Jan  9 11:35:58 Hypatia ifpap[525]: sending to pap[527]
Jan  9 11:35:58 Hypatia ifpap[525]: PostScript
Jan  9 11:36:05 Hypatia ifpap[525]: 527 done
Jan  9 11:36:05 Hypatia ifpap[525]: wait3: No child processes
Jan  9 11:36:05 Hypatia lpd[505]: restarting P1
Jan  9 11:36:05 Hypatia ofpap[523]: restarting
Jan  9 11:36:05 Hypatia ofpap[523]: done
Jan  9 11:36:06 Hypatia ofpap[528]: starting for ?
Jan  9 11:36:06 Hypatia ofpap[528]: sending to pap[529]
Jan  9 11:36:06 Hypatia ofpap[528]: straight text
Jan  9 11:36:12 Hypatia ofpap[528]: 529 done
Jan  9 11:36:12 Hypatia ofpap[528]: pausing
Jan  9 11:36:12 Hypatia ifpap[530]: starting for vera
Jan  9 11:36:12 Hypatia ifpap[530]: accounting with psa[531]
Jan  9 11:36:12 Hypatia ifpap[530]: sending to pap[532]
Jan  9 11:36:12 Hypatia ifpap[530]: PostScript
Jan  9 11:36:20 Hypatia ifpap[530]: 532 done
Jan  9 11:36:20 Hypatia ifpap[530]: wait3: No child processes
Jan  9 11:36:20 Hypatia lpd[505]: P1: job could not be printed 
(cfA002Hypatia.math.uni-heidelberg.de)
Jan  9 11:36:20 Hypatia ofpap[528]: restarting
Jan  9 11:36:20 Hypatia lpd[505]

Lilo warning causing problems

[Felipe Martínez Hermo]

Hi all!

I have just installed a new Debain box and configured a new
kernel. I run Lilo and it says:

Warning: Int 0x13 function 8 and function 0x48 return different
head/sector geometries for BIOS drive 0x80 (also for drive 0x81)


It installs correctly the boot sector, but when I try to boot
with my new kernel, after the first kernel messages it reboots
again and again and again

Does anybody have a clue?

Thank you



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Re: Autofs

[Alvin Oga]

hi ya joakim

>  /etc/auto.master:
>  /-
>  | # $Id: auto.master,v 1.2 1997/10/06 21:52:03 hpa Exp $
>  | # Sample auto.master file
>  | # Format of this file:
>  | # mountpoint map options
>  | # For details of the format look at autofs(5).
>  | /var/autofs/misc   /etc/auto.misc
>  | /var/autofs/net  /etc/auto.net
>  \-

the above says that you are mounting "misc.foo"  onto  /var/autofs/misc
- make sure you ahve the directory called /var/autofs/misc
simlarly of /var/autofs/net

make sure your kernel supports autofs
- compiled into the kernel  -- or --
as a modules  listed by  lsmod

- you'd probably have a library like /usr/lib/autofs
( a list of autofs libs )
 
>  /etc/auto.misc:
>  /-
>  | # $Id: auto.misc,v 1.2 1997/10/06 21:52:04 hpa Exp $
>  | # This is an automounter map and it has the following format
>  | # key [ -mount-options-separated-by-comma ] location
>  | # Details may be found in the autofs(5) manpage
>  | 
>  | kernel -ro 
>ftp.kernel.org:/pub/linux
>  | boot   -fstype=ext3:/dev/hda1
>  | removable  -fstype=ext2,sync,nodev,nosuid  :/dev/hdd
>  | cd -fstype=iso9660,ro,sync,nodev,nosuid:/dev/hdc
>  | floppy -fstype=auto,sync,nodev,nosuid  :/dev/fd0
>  | local  -fstype=ext3,ro,soft,intr,nosuid:/dev/hda5

#
# use this for testing autofs
#
 mail   -fstype=auto,soft,intr  mail:/var/spool/mail

>  |
>  | # Key "local" is added by me.
>  \-
>

local is the only thing your care about...

- you really do NOT want to be automounting a local filesystem

- make sure you can manuyally mount that resource
root# mount -t ext3 -o ro,soft,intr,nosuid /dev/hda5 /mnt

if the above works... autofs should also work

- if yu have access to mail.your-domain.com:/var/spool/mail

add "mail:/var/spool/mail"  to the auto.misc file

ls -la /var/autofs/misc/mail
== should list your mailboxes


> When I then first go to the mount-point /var/autofs/master, and thenthe 
>configuration files
> seem to
> try:
> 
>bash% cd kernel
>bash: cd: kernel: No such file or directory

it's not automounting...
- what is the error messages in /var/log/

i think you wanna go to
---
cd /var/autofs/misc
ls -la kernel


hav fun
alvin



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firewire/hfs volumes

[Matt Price]

Hi everyone,

I run woody on a 


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firewire / hfs volumes (continued)

[Matt Price]

sorry about the last message

I run debian woody at work, and macos 9 at home.  I'd like to start
backing up both systems on an external ieee1394 drive (not yet
purchased).  I have two questions:

-does woody (running on x86) work stably with hfs volumes?  I seem to
 remember there were some issues areound it.
-If I get one large drive (I'm thinking 160gb) will woody be able to
 see all of it?  I know that there used to be some problems with the
 mac around large drives, but haven't found anything about linux
 andthis problem.
- (I guess this is 3) how would folks recommend I initialize and
 partition the drive?  From my mac, or from my woody box?  

Thanks as always for your help!  
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Re: Lilo warning causing problems

[Seneca]

On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 12:44:41PM +0100, Felipe Mart?nez Hermo wrote:
>   I have just installed a new Debain box and configured a new
>   kernel. I run Lilo and it says:
> 
>   Warning: Int 0x13 function 8 and function 0x48 return different
>   head/sector geometries for BIOS drive 0x80 (also for drive 0x81)
> 
> 
>   It installs correctly the boot sector, but when I try to boot
>   with my new kernel, after the first kernel messages it reboots
>   again and again and again

For information about the LILO message, take a look at this:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2002/debian-user-200205/msg03669.html

What do the kernel messages say before it reboots?

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Re: Error updating unstable non-free Packages

[Seneca]

On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 03:06:05PM +0800, Tim Wood wrote:
> I get a parsing error in  unstable non-free Packages, which results in 
> "Dynamic MMap ran out of room" error.
> This occurs parsing package graphviz (NewVersion1).
> 
> If this is a bug where do I report it as occuring?
> If not, where might the fault lie?

As you asked this question, I can tell that you haven't checked in the
archives.  This particular question has been asked dozens of times in
the past month or so, I think most recently yesterday or the day before
that.  Take a look in the archives.  http://lists.debian.org

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Re: Desktop productivity with Debian GNU/LINUX

[Alaa The Great]

On Mon, 20 Jan 2003 22:33:22 -0800 (PST)
"nate" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> I don't believe your a good candidate for using debian on the
> desktop. Perhaps SuSE, Mandrake or Xandros, despite being more
> propritary(sp), they are a step in the right direction(towards more
> openness) compared to most other platforms.

Mandrake is not more proprietary its an entirely Free Software distro,
all Mandrake code is released under the GPL.

cheers, 
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[HELP] - kernel panic 2.4.18 on Dual-PIII

[Rodrigo Otavio Weymar Fonseca]

Hello all,

I am using the standard kernel 2.4.18(stable) provided with Woody cd's on 
a Dual-PIII 733 Mhz.

I have just installed that, after have using the 2.2.20-idepci version.

But I am facing a kernel panic with the 2.4.18 (up) version.

When I try to boot, it appears the following messages:

.
.
.
SCB count = 4
kernel NEXTQSCB = 3
card NEXTQSCB = 0
QINFIFO entries: 3 2
waiting queue entries: 0:255 1:255 and so on until 15:255
QOUTFIFO entries:   ( this field is empty )
sequencer free SCB list: 0 1 2 ... 15
pending list: 2
kernel free SCB list: 1 0 
untagged Q(1) = 2
DEUQ(0:1:0): 0 waiting
qinpos = 0, SCB index = 3
kernel panic: loop 1



If I try a cd boot I got other error messages:

boot: bf24
loading/install..
loading bf24.bin.
ready.

uncompressing linux.

invalid compressed format (err=1)

--System halted

And finally, when I tried a floppy disk boot, I got more error messages:

.
.
.
ext2-fs: ide(3,1): couldn't mount because of unsupported optional 
features.

[MS-DOS FS RREL. 12, FAT 0, ... ]

transaction block size = 512
invalid session number or type of track 

kernel panic: VFS : unable to mount root FS on 03:01


My box has 2 ide hd's and a SCSI adapter Adaptec used by a external Yamaha 
CD writer.


Can someone help, please. 

Thanks in advance,

Rodrigo


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Re: Lilo warning causing problems

[Felipe Martínez Hermo]

El Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 07:19:46AM -0500, Seneca escribió: 
> On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 12:44:41PM +0100, Felipe Mart?nez Hermo wrote:
> > I have just installed a new Debain box and configured a new
> > kernel. I run Lilo and it says:
> > 
> > Warning: Int 0x13 function 8 and function 0x48 return different
> > head/sector geometries for BIOS drive 0x80 (also for drive 0x81)
> > 
> > 
> > It installs correctly the boot sector, but when I try to boot
> > with my new kernel, after the first kernel messages it reboots
> > again and again and again
> 
> For information about the LILO message, take a look at this:
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2002/debian-user-200205/msg03669.html
> 
> What do the kernel messages say before it reboots?

Loading Linux
Uncompressing Linux OK, booting the kernel..

An then the screen goes blank, beeps and reboots I am trying a 2.4.18
kernel. Should it be the kernel version  :-?




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j2se 1.3.1 for debian sid

[Francois Chenais]

Hello, 

Where can I find j2se 1.3.1 for debian sid ?
I have downloaded one but it needs a wrong library.
Can I installed this library ??

Thanks a lot 

François

tanna:/usr/local/jre/bin# ./java --version 
/usr/local/jre1.3.1/bin/i386/native_threads/java: error while loading shared 
libraries: libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or 
directory




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Re: j2se 1.3.1 for debian sid

[Tom Badran]

On Tuesday 21 Jan 2003 12:56 pm, Francois Chenais wrote:
> Hello,
>
>   Where can I find j2se 1.3.1 for debian sid ?
>   I have downloaded one but it needs a wrong library.
>   Can I installed this library ??

You cant, the glibc upgrade means you need a jdk >= 1.4.1

Suns should work, but blackdown provide apt-getable packages, which imo are 
better than suns (bug fixes, gnome/kde integration for javaws).

Add to you /etc/apt/sources.list (all one line):

#Blackdown Java
deb ftp://ftp.mirror.ac.uk/sites/ftp.blackdown.org/java-linux/debian/ unstable 
main non-free

Then run:

apt-get update
apt-get install j2sdk1.4 j2re1.4

And bobs your uncle

Tom


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Re: HP 6200C scanner: Segfault

[Craig Jackson]

I answered my own question and post here for the benefit of all.

# echo "option connect-device" >> /etc/sane.d/hp.conf
# rmmod scanner
# modprobe scanner vendor=0x03f0 product=0x0201

Voile!


On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 11:19, Craig Jackson wrote:
> I am unable to get scanimage to work:
> 
> # sane-find-scanner
> sane-find-scanner: found USB scanner (vendor = 0x03f0, product = 0x0201)
> at device /dev/usb/scanner0
> 
> But...
> 
> #scanimage -d hp:/dev/usb/scanner0
> segmentation fault
> 
> # cat /etc/sane.d/
> scsi HP
> /dev/usb/scanner0
> 
> xsane closes during scan for scanner
> 
> # lsmod
> sg 24452   0  (autoclean) (unused)
> es1371 27840   0  (unused)
> gameport1308   0  [es1371]
> ac97_codec  9568   0  [es1371]
> soundcore   3236   4  (autoclean) [es1371]
> scanner 8480   0
> usb-uhci   20708   0  (unused)
> usbcore48032   1  [scanner usb-uhci]
> nfsd   42848   0  (unused)
> eepro100   17264   1
> mousedev3776   1
> radeon 92472   1
> agpgart29824   3
> keybdev 1664   0  (unused)
> input   3072   0  [mousedev keybdev]
> 
> 
> Any suggestions?
> Thanks in advance,
> 
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Re: Desktop productivity with Debian GNU/LINUX

[Dave W]

On Monday 20 January 2003 10:54 pm, John & Peg Pickard wrote:
> 
> In short, will I be able to do something productive with Debian LINUX? And
> then I will want to network it with our laptop running WinME, and a LinkSys
> Print server, and possibly a US Robotics broadband router (if I can use the
> "back up" dial up connection on a permanent basis, which would then have an
> external modem). All without requiring a PHD in networking? If I get that
> far, LINUX will be for real, and I will also load it on my old 100 mhz Dell
> and network that too.
>
> Any hope?

I would strongly recommend you install Debian by way of Libranet 
(www.libranet.com).  The installer detects hardware quite well, and in
general is about as painless as any -good- linux installer.  It's not
gorgeous and pointy-clickety installer like bankrupt Mandrake, but it
works quite well, and about the only thing it doesn't do for me that I'd
like it to do is install the NVidia ACCELERATED drivers.  It _does_
however install the nv driver just fine.  The 2.0 version (one version
behind) is a free download from their website.  Between their mailing
list and this one you should get all the support you can stand.

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Re: Which kernel-image for a Via Ezra chip?

[Ron Johnson]

On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 22:55, Kent West wrote:
> Ron Johnson wrote:
> 
> >On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 16:50, Kent West wrote:
> >  
> >
> >>Got a Walmart Microtel $300 computer with a Via Ezra microprocessor. I 
> >>want to upgrade to a 2.4.20 kernel image from Unstable. Which image do I 
> >>need for this chip, or will I have to roll my own?
> >>
> >>
> >
> >The Via C3 series, of which the Ezra is part of, is x86-compatabile:
> >http://www.via.com.tw/en/viac3/c3.jsp
> >In fact, it uses the Socket-370, just like the P3 (Tualatin).
> >http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=Via+Ezra&btnG=Google+Search
> >First hit:
> >http://www.geek.com/procspec/via/ezra-t.htm
> >
> >  
> >
> Well, yes, But does that mean I need the
> kernel-image-2.4-386
> kernel-image-2.4-586tsc
> or the
> kernel-image-2.4-686
> file, or perhaps some other? These are all "x86-compatible", are they 
> not? If I had to make a guess, I'd guess 686, but I was hoping to have 
> an authoritative answer before downloading a possibly wrong kernel over 
> a slow-dial-up connection. And now I'm 90 miles away from that box, so 
> trying to walk a newbie through the process via email and getting the 
> wrong kernel has even less appeal. Oh well, I reckon it can wait until I 
> make another trip down that way; the only real reason he needs to 
> upgrade is to hopefully fix a mis-aligned mouse pointer and a lack of 
> sound capability. Thanks for the response!

Well, you can't go wrong with the -386...

Because of the possible lack of MTTR in the C3, I wouldn't try the
other unless I had broadband, though.

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"apt-get install kdenetwork" -> Dependency problem...

[Rob Verkuylen]

When trying to install KDE3, i can get all packages running,
except for 'kdenetwork'

I get this message:

kdenetwork: Depends: libmimelib1 (= 4:3.0.4-1) but 4:3.0.5a-0woody1 is to be
installed
E: Sorry, broken packages

Anybody?
Thanks.




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Re: firewire / hfs volumes (continued)

[Jason Healy]

At 1043152597s since epoch (01/21/03 07:36:37 -0500 UTC), Matt Price wrote:
> I run debian woody at work, and macos 9 at home.  I'd like to start
> backing up both systems on an external ieee1394 drive (not yet
> purchased).

I'm in a similar situation.  I have an iBook with OSX on it, and I've
been trying to share a firewire drive between it and my linux box.  I
too was looking for a stable solution, to the point where I "Asked
Slashdot" (I know, I know...)

http://ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/09/19/0522238

> -does woody (running on x86) work stably with hfs volumes?  I seem to
>  remember there were some issues areound it.

The upshot is this: you can use the HFS+ utils for linux under woody
(I've done as much).  However, those are not a "direct-mount" type of
deal; you have to use a special set of commands to mount and examine
the filesystem, which is a bit of a pain.  I tried it for a while, but
finally gave up because it was too time-intensive to use special tools
to see the files.  Also, the tools all come with dire warnings about
beta software and potential instabilities.  While they seemed fine, if
this is for backing up you should be extra careful.

> -If I get one large drive (I'm thinking 160gb) will woody be able to
>  see all of it?  I know that there used to be some problems with the
>  mac around large drives, but haven't found anything about linux
>  andthis problem.

I'm not even sure if the Mac can see that much yet, so I'd be
careful.  As for the linux box, you should be okay.  It's more a
function of the firewire bridge on the hard drive than on the firewire
interface on your machine (linux sees the firewire drives as "SCSI"
drives, not really IDE).

> - (I guess this is 3) how would folks recommend I initialize and
>  partition the drive?  From my mac, or from my woody box?  

Partition on the mac and mount on the debian box.  If you want to
split the drive into two partitions (say, ext2 and hfs+), partition on
the mac, and then format the empty partition on the linux box.

You might also try a filesystem type usable by both machines; FAT32 is
read/writeable by both linux and mac.  The only drawbacks are lack of
permissions metadata, possible filename truncation to 8.3, and a file
size limit of 4GB (e.g., you can't backup DVD images or large media
files).

For the curious, what I ended up doing was just mounting the drive
over the network on the iBook.  That way I had HFS+ formatting and
native access for the mac.  Since my machines are both here at home,
the network is quick enough for most copy operations.  I can easily
back files up from the debian box to the mac over the network using
tar and rsync.

That may not help you, since your machines are in different places,
but it is an option.

Good luck!

Jason

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RE: firewire / hfs volumes (continued)

[Narins, Josh]

Keep me posted, I have a similar issue, in that I'd like to buy an external
drive, but need to know something very compatible.

iirc, and I wouldn't make any hardware purchases based on my memory, Linux
had trouble with HFS+, but not HFS.

And there is an hfsplus package, which may say more.

But it's a low priority issue with me, since i have everything backed up to
CD right now.

-Original Message-
From: Matt Price [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 7:35 AM
To: debian users
Subject: firewire / hfs volumes (continued)


sorry about the last message

I run debian woody at work, and macos 9 at home.  I'd like to start backing
up both systems on an external ieee1394 drive (not yet purchased).  I have
two questions:

-does woody (running on x86) work stably with hfs volumes?  I seem to
remember there were some issues areound it. -If I get one large drive (I'm
thinking 160gb) will woody be able to  see all of it?  I know that there
used to be some problems with the  mac around large drives, but haven't
found anything about linux  andthis problem.
- (I guess this is 3) how would folks recommend I initialize and  partition
the drive?  From my mac, or from my woody box?  

Thanks as always for your help!  
matt


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setlocale comma decimal question: GRACE and GMT

[Glen Snyder]

I am using Debian sarge, and have two applications which I use to create
maps (GMT, Generic Mapping Tools) and plots (GRACE). The problem I have
is that a journal that I am submitting to requires the use of a comma
instead of a point for the decimal. The data I am inputting into the two
programs is in the form of xy and xyz data with decimal points, and I
only need the comma on the output (numbers on the axis, numbers in the
scale bar). 

I have addressed this question to the user groups at GMT and GRACE with
no response, so I thought maybe someone using Debian would have an
answer:

Does anyone have an example of a bash script that would use setlocale to
temporarily call on LC_NUMERIC to output comma decimals (and then switch
back to the dot for the decimals afterwards)?

Thank you in advance for your kind response,
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Re: Sound problem after upgrading to testing

[Rob Weir]

On Tue, Jan 14, 2003 at 03:12:13PM -0500, AR wrote:
> After upgrading to testing from woody, I am unable to hear the sound
> track in mpg movies in xine, 

What sound card do you have?  Most can only support one stream at a
time, so if you're using GNOME or KDE then esd or artsd will have stolen
it by the time you run a user app.  Try running this to see: 

'fuser -v /dev/dsp'

If ESD (which GNOME uses) has taken it, then you need to either tell
xine to use an ESD-based audio output plugin, or use the 'esddsp'
program to fake it.

>
> or hear any music in cdrom drive. GnomeCd from gnome2 tells me  drive
> error when I start it with a Cd in the drive. 

Did you upgrade your kernel?  Playing audio CDs is kinda tangental to
playing music using OSS, since most CD-ROM drives are directly hooked
into the soundcard via a special cable, and will work even if the CPU
has no power.  Can cdparanoia access the drive? 'cdparanoia -Bzv'
should start ripping whatever CD's in the drive...

> However, I am a member of the cdrom and audio groups. I am kind of
> clueless here.  Events have sound fine. mp32 can be heard. Does anyone
> have a clue?

I suspect this is an ESD-related problem, so try my suggestions above?

-rob



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Re: Can't start X with Nvidia

[Rob Weir]

On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 11:18:59AM -0500, Dave W wrote:
> On Sun, 2003-01-19 at 03:56, Ian D. Stewart wrote:
> > NVDriver is the linux kernel module.  nvidia is the X display driver.
> > 
> I might be wrong (sure wouldn't be the first time) but I believe that 
> starting with 4191, the module is called nvidia.  Prior to 4191 the 
> module was called NVdriver.  I had a heck of a time getting 4191 to 
> work after switching from 3123 because of the module name change.
> 
> Running 4191 I show:
> 
> # lsmod
> Module  Size  Used byTainted: P  
> nvidia   1466944  10 
> 
> and I'm pretty sure it used to say NVdriver there.
> 
> Please, correct me if I'm wrong.  Perhaps I'm confusing the driver
> and the module.  But there was definitely a change with the latest
> version of the commercial nvidia driver and I definitely went through
> h*ll getting it to work.  Ultimately, at least in my case, the problem
> was that on my box that ran the newest version, I had in /etc/modules
> "load nvidia" and on another box running an older version "load 
> NVdriver."

Yes, I've noticed this too.

-rob



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Re: a basic aptitude question - how to install a virtual package

[Rob Weir]

On Sat, Jan 18, 2003 at 12:29:12PM +0530, Sandip P Deshmukh wrote:
> -- 
> regards,
> sandip p deshmukh
> --***
> To everything there is a season, a time for every pupose under heaven:
> A time to be born, and a time to die;
> A time to plant, and a time to pluck what is planted;
> A time to kill, and a time to heal;
> A time to break down, and a time to build up;
> A time to weep, and a time to laugh;
> A time to mourn, and a time to dance;
> A time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones;
> A time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing;
> A time to gain, and a time to lose;
> A time to keep, and a time to throw away;
> A time to tear, and a time to sew;
> A time to keep silence, and a time to speak;
> A time to love, and a time to hate;
> A time of war, and a time of peace.
>   Ecclesiastes 3:1-9

Not to discourage your Debian explorations, but would you mind trimming
the sigs a little?  A 21-line .sig for a ~10 line email seems a little
excessive :-)

-rob



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Re: How to change start up screen resolution for X?

[Anthony Campbell]

On 20 Jan 2003, Nathan E Norman wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 03:10:20PM -0800, Osamu Aoki wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 03:39:29PM -0600, Nathan E Norman wrote:
> > > On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 01:50:45PM -0600, will trillich wrote:
> > > > all i can get is 800x600 which ain't much. :(
> > > > 
> > > > i've googled for MEMOREX-TELEX (CDS-4583) and haven't found much
> > > > in the way of answers for horiz/vert refresh or clock speeds.
> > > > anybody know of a site somewhere that's got a collection of that
> > > > kind of info?
> > > 
> > > CDS-4583 is P/N 955313-003 which is a '14" SVGA monitor'.  My
> > > recollection of Super-VGA is that you could do 1024x768 at some crappy
> > > refresh rate like 60Hz ... but anything better than that is a long
> > > shot.
> > 
> > Good google :) but SVGA is Super-VGA and only 800 x 720 !
> > 
> > CGA:   640 X 200 (8*8 font, 80chars * 25 lines)
> > DCGA:  640 X 400 (8*16 font, 80chars * 25 lines)
> > VGA:   640 x 480
> > SVGA:  800 x 720
> > XGA:  1024 x 768
> > SXGA  1280 x1024 
> > UXGA: 1600 x1440
> 

[snip]

On a slightly different note, is there much point in going to the higher
resolutions even if they are available? My monitor will go up to
1600x1440 but in practice I don't find any use in going above 1024x768.
I know the argument is that you can have more windows open but this
means you have to squint at small type. If you make the type larger you
are back where you started.

I therefore leave mine at 1024x768 and (in icewm) have 9 desktops with
different apps on each. This seems to me more sensible, or am I missing
something?

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Re: init scripts management

[Rob Weir]

On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 12:11:30PM +0100, Francois Chenais wrote:
> Hello, 
> 
>   Is there any "standard method" under debian to add/remove shell @ 
>boot/shutdown time in /etc/rc.* directories ?
> 
>   Like chk-config under R.H. in fact.
> 
>   Thanks a lot.
> 
>   François 

man update-rc.d

-rob



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Re: apt-get install libc6 but want non-latest version

[Rob Weir]

On Thu, Jan 16, 2003 at 05:31:35PM -0500, David Z Maze wrote:
> Dan Jacobson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Hmm, what is the procedure if one wants less than fresh versions then?
> > Let me guess: apt-get --print-uris install libc6, then edit the uris
> > to the version one wants. Download them and then install them with
> > dpkg -i?
> 
> The archive won't contain the file, so this won't work.

http://snapshot.debian.net/ is what you want.  AFAIK, they mirror the
full Debian pool each day, and have for a fair while, so they'll
certainly have that packages.  As David said, though, this seems a
little silly.

> > P.S. having libc6 2.3.1-8 while the rest of my system is sid of
> > 2002.10.10 won't break anything, right?
> 
> It shouldn't, provided all of the dependencies work.  But trying to
> "track" unstable with intermittent slow network sounds painful, more
> so with random bugs from several months back.

Absolutely.

-rob



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slash: How to convince it to work...

[Paul Johnson]

Anybody have this one before?  I'm not knowledgable enough with Perl
to understand this, but it seems to be grinding a few things to a
halt.

Tue Jan 21 14:50:00 2003 message_delivery.pl begin
Error in
library:main:/var/www/slash/rainfurs.ursine.dyndns.org/tasks/message_delivery.pl:20:Can't
locate Slash/Messages.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl
/usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.0 /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.0 /usr/lib/perl5
/usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.8.0 /usr/share/perl/5.8.0
/usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at (eval 67) line 3.

Which was called by:main:/usr/sbin/slashd:446:Can't locate
Slash/Messages.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl
/usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.0 /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.0 /usr/lib/perl5
/usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.8.0 /usr/share/perl/5.8.0
/usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at (eval 67) line 3.

Tue Jan 21 14:50:00 2003 message_delivery.pl: could not instantiate
Slash::Messages object
Tue Jan 21 14:50:00 2003 message_delivery.pl end (0.00s; p2f_cheesy.pl
in 60s)


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Re: Re-init X11

[Rob Weir]

On Thu, Jan 16, 2003 at 08:43:25AM -0500, Stephen Gran wrote:
> This one time, at band camp, Russell said:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > After i've modified /etc/X11/XF86Config-4, is there a way to make the
> > X system re-read it without having to exit out of X?
> 
> Nope.

But.
If you've only changed font paths, then 'xset +fp /font/path' could help
you.  man xset has a bunch of other things you can later inside a
running X server.

-rob



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Re: Getting X to start

[Rob Weir]

On Fri, Jan 17, 2003 at 12:55:23AM +1100, Russell wrote:
> Kris K wrote:
> >Hi -
> >
> >Just installed Debian, and can't get X to start.  I've included my 
> >XF86Config-4 file, plus the log output that results from it.  What can I 
> >do to get it to work (ok...RTFM...that didn't work)?  Thanks for your 
> >help guys.
> 
> As root, try XFree86 -configure
> which should give something that works that you can start from.

Better still, as root:
$ apt-get install discover mdetect read-edid
$ dpkg -P --force-depends xserver-xfree86 xfree86-common
$ apt-get install xserver-xfree86 xfree86-common

I'm assuming there's a better way to do this than purging X, but I
haven't found it (not that I've looked too hard, it built my config with
vim).

-rob



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Re: Compiler error: C compiler cannot create executables

[Rob Weir]

On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 05:02:31PM +0100, Achton N. Netherclift wrote:
> Isildur:/home/public/incoming# dpkg -i libc6-dev_2.2.5-11.2_i386.deb
> Selecting previously deselected package libc6-dev.
> (Reading database ... 22250 files and directories currently installed.)
> Unpacking libc6-dev (from libc6-dev_2.2.5-11.2_i386.deb) ...
> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of libc6-dev:
>  libc6-dev depends on libc6 (= 2.2.5-11.2); however:
>   Version of libc6 on system is 2.3.1-9.
> dpkg: error processing libc6-dev (--install):
>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
> Errors were encountered while processing:
>  libc6-dev
> ===
> 
> Uh-oh ..
> 
> I have libc6 2.3.1-9 on my system. Thats from the unstable dist...
> how the h*ck? Well, now what? Can I downgrade libc6 somehow?
> Or can I somehow get the thing to allow me to compile programs with
> the current libc6 library? (And will they work?)

Ahhh, there we go.  As long as you don't have too much other sid stuff
installed, try using dpkg to install the correct stable version of libc
(the one that libc6-dev depends on).  You might need to use the
--force-downgrade option...Of course, the sid stuff that origiinally
pulled libc 2.3 down in the first place will have to be removed.  If you
really need them though, go read up on using 'deb-src' lines and 'apt-get
source' to rebuild the sid package from source, using your existing
libraries.

-rob



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Re: source files

[Rob Weir]

On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 09:00:33PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hello
> I try to find the source code of the kernels, I need it do compile a driver
> I don't know where to find it
> Thanks for your help
> Raymond

If you're compiling a driver for an existing Debian kernel, you don't
need (and probably can't use) a full source tree.  That you really want
is the appropriate 'kernel-headers--' package.  

apt-get install kernel-headers-`uname -r`

should get you the right one (not the *backticks*)

-rob



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Re: URGENT: Building kernel.

[Rob Weir]

[Top-posting is evil, mmmkay?]

This email makes my eyes bleed: 
* Don't top post
* Don't use ridiculous amounts of white space
* Don't let Outlook put in that moronic quote header
* Don't send from an address that attaches stupid legal notices to the
  end, ESPECIALLY to a public list
* Don't put a mailto: in your email real name field, that's just stupid
* Don't use the word 'urgent' in the subject of an email that is
  obviously quite non-urgent.

I'm not trying to flame anyone here, and the bizarre formatting of the
message below makes it impossible for me to even figure out who wrote
what, but sticking to some basic formatting rules makes it easier for
people to read the list, which in turn makes it more likely that you'll
actually get help.

Thanks for your time, I'll return to my box :-)

-rob

On Thu, Jan 16, 2003 at 12:31:30PM -0500, Narins, Josh wrote:
> The debian way can be found, if I understand, with "man make-kpkg"
> 
> Kevin, I hope you'll be pleasantly surprised. I sure as  at author request> was.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 12:21 PM
> To: Irene Sygkouna
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: URGENT: Building kernel.
> 
> 
> 
> Before you compile your Kernel (In this case you'll need to start again) and
> probably do a 'make clean' in the source directory followed by 'make
> menuconfig' then find the option about RAMDISK SUPPORT - then turn it off!
> 
> then I'd 'make dep', 'make modules'.. &c.
> 
> PS. I don't think this is the Debian *way* of doing the compile but I never
> had a problem my way so I've never bothered to learn how to do it the Debian
> way.
> 
> Anyhow, essentially the answer is to turn off the RAMDISK SUPPORT in your
> Kernel Configuration seetings prior to compilation.
> 
> Hope this helps,
> Kevin
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> "Irene
> 
> Sygkouna"To:
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  
> m.ntua.gr>   Subject: URGENT: Building
> kernel. 
>  
> 
> 01/16/03
> 
> 04:18 PM
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Dear all,
> I am installing the linux kernel 2.4.18 in debian following the instructions
> found in the url:
> http://subwiki.honeypot.net/cgi-bin/view/Main/DebianKernelBuilding?skin=prin
> t
> 
> At the final step for installing the new kernel and module packages: "dpkg
> -i {list of .deb packages from the previous step} I receive the following
> error message:
> 
> rena2:/usr/src# dpkg -i kernel-image-2.4.18myhost1_10.00.Custom_i386.deb
> (Reading database ... 54323 files and directories currently installed.)
> Preparing to replace kernel-image-2.4.18myhost1 10.00.Custom (using
> kernel-image
> -2.4.18myhost1_10.00.Custom_i386.deb) ...
> 
> 
> You are attempting to install an initrd kernel image (version
> 2.4.18myhost1)
> This will not work unless you have configured your boot loader to use
> initrd. (An initrd image is a kernel image that expects to use an INITial
> Ram Disk to mount a minimal root file system into RAM and use that for
> booting). As a reminder, in order to configure lilo, you need to add an
> 'initrd=/initrd.img' to the image=/vmlinuz stanza of your /etc/lilo.conf I
> repeat, You need to configure your boot loader. If you have already done so,
> and you wish to get rid of this message, please put
>   `do_initrd = Yes'
> in /etc/kernel-img.conf. Note that this is optional, but if you do not,
> you'll contitnue to see this message whenever you install a kernel image
> using initrd. Do you want to stop now? [Y/n]n Unpacking replacement
> kernel-image-2.4.18myhost1 ... Setting up kernel-image-2.4.18myhost1
> (10.00.Custom) ... Failed to create initrd image.
> dpkg: error processing kernel-image-2.4.18myhost1 (--install):  subprocess
> post-installation script returned error exit status 2 Errors were
> encountered while processing:  kernel-image-2.4.18myhost1 rena2:/usr/src#
> 
> 
> Could you please help me???
> 
> 
> I'm looking foward for your answer.
> 
> 
> Rena.
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Re: Error while running apt-get update

[Rob Weir]

On Tue, Jan 14, 2003 at 02:32:23PM +0100, Joshua SS Miller wrote:
> You have to much info for the apt-get cache to handle.  Up the size of 
> Cache-Limit.  I have my set very high.
> 
> joshua@sunlap:~$ cat /etc/apt/apt.conf
> APT::Default-Release "testing";
> APT::Cache-Limit 1000;
> Apt::Get::Purge;

These seems to be coming up about once a day on the list, isn't *anyone*
searching the archives or at least googling?

-rob



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Re: How to analyze a server crash?

[Rob Weir]

On Thu, Jan 16, 2003 at 11:32:13AM -0500, Travis Crump wrote:
> Paul Johnson wrote:
> >On Thu, Jan 16, 2003 at 04:01:53AM -0600, Michael Heironimus wrote:
> >
> >>panic. I've had that happen when X crashed, too, and that wasn't really
> >>even a driver bug (it was combination of wine and font servers). 
> >
> >
> >This one's resolvable if you have the Magic System Request key enabled
> >(not sure if it is by default).  It's sysrq-k to kill everything in
> >your current console.  If you use gdm or xdm on the console you're
> >killing, then it should restart automatically and give you a new
> >login.  If you use kdm and you have "Automatically log in after X
> >server crash" enabled, then it will automagically restart your session
> >where it was last saved; otherwise it'll behave the same as gdm or xdm.
> >
> 
> Maybe it is just me[I use the nvidia driver], but this has never worked
> for me.  sysrq-k will successfully kill everything in the current 
> console after an X hang, but then the screen just turns to gibberish and 
> I still can't get control of it.

Killing something that harshly would leave the hardware in an undefined
state, I would imagine, particularly with the deep voodoo that the
nvidia drivers use.

-rob



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Re: Maintaining a mixed system

[Rob Weir]

On Sat, Jan 18, 2003 at 01:54:56PM -0500, Seth Williamson wrote:
> I am a total noob and I hope this question is not something so obvious
> that it's been hammered to death on this list.

Heh. it does come up fairly often, but it's an important and difficult
question, so it's worth discussing again.

> However, for a few--a very few--apps, I would like to run versions that
> are newer.  I'm not talking a lot here.  Probably Evolution, Galeon,
> Abiword, and that's it.  Otherwise I'd like to run everything stable.

As Karsten mentioned, these apps have rather 'extensive and deep
dependencies' (I like that description :), so just pulling them from sid
is not very feasible.  Especially since sid has a newer version of libc
(the basic system library that every single other program depends on),
which can cause problems with currently installed apps.

> Can somebody tell me how to modify my sources.list file to get this
> done, and what the command would be to update those particular apps?  At
> the moment I have the standard sources.list file that comes with a
> Libranet 2.7 install.  Thanks...

There's the pinning method that everyone else has suggested, of course,
but there is another way.  apt-get, since the release of woody, has a
'source' function, which can download source packages from the Debian
archive and build deb packages from them.  The advantage of building
your own versions, instead of using the precompiled versions, is that
it'll mostly depend on what you have installed currently, instead of
what's in sid.  To do this, you just need to add some 'deb-src' lines to
your sources.list, pointing at 'testing' or 'unstable' (hereafter
referred to as ), depending on which versions you want to install.
Then run 'apt-get -t  build-dep galeon;apt-get -t  -b source
galeon'.  This will install the build dependencies (headers and
libraries, mostly) that apt needs to build a package from the galeon
source, then download and build it, leaving you with neatly built Debian
packages.  I've not really used this feature much, so I'm not sure how
it handles fetching libraries that apt *can't* get from your current
distro, but other people seem to use it successfully, so I'm assuming it
mostly Just Works :).

Packages built this way will not be automatically updated until apt sees
a more recent binary version (which, if you leave your sources.list
pointed at stable, will not be until sarge releases sometime in the, er,
'future'), so you'll have to rebuild if any security flaws or other bugs
are found.

Yet another possibility is to just use precompiled binary versions of
the programs you want; unfortunately, this isn't really possibly with
these Gnome applications that have such E&D dependencies.  If you were
using, say, Mozilla and OpenOffice.org, I'd recommend just downloading
their pre-built tarballs and installing them into /usr/local/ manually.

Anyhoo, do report back with whatever solution you end up employing,
since this is an issue that people are dealing with now, and it will
affect more and more people as Woody's release recedes into the past.

-rob



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Re: broken FTPStats?

[Rob Weir]

On Wed, Jan 15, 2003 at 11:09:39PM -0500, D. Clarke wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Anybody have any luck with the ftpstats program?
> ( it comes with proftpd-common )
> 
> I'm using woody
> 
> I've tried reinstalling the package
> 
> I've tried piping to the app, and redirecting to the app and no matter what
> I do I get
> "There was no data to process" even though my xferlog is 500K in size.
> 
> Any Ideas?

Checked the BTS?  http://bugs.debian.org/packagename

-rob



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Re: The "c102" libraries want to kill KDE. How do I protect them?

[Rob Weir]

On Tue, Jan 14, 2003 at 09:15:11PM -0500, Phil Edwards wrote:
> 
> In order to get a bug fixed, I'm doing an upgrade.  Dependencies on
> dependencies on dependencies have started to pull in a bunch of the *c102
> transition libraries...

Use aptitude or apt or whatever to just install the 'fixed' packages
then.  Mass upgrades in the middle of a transition are always going to
be troublesome.  Or you could sit back and wait for KDE3 to hit sid, in
which case all these problems will become serious bugs that will
(hopefully) get fixed more quickly.  Sit back and enjoy the ride, this
is sid :)

> /usr/bin/apt-get -y -d dselect-upgrade
> Reading Package Lists... Done
> Building Dependency Tree... Done
> The following packages will be REMOVED:
>   gnome-applets gnome-control-center gnome-games gnome-media gnome-panel
>   gnome-panel-data gnome-session gnome-terminal gnome-utils kchart
>   kde-theme-qnix kdeartwork-style kdebase kdebase-audiolibs kdebase-libs
>   kdelibs3 kdelibs3-bin kdepasswd kdepim-libs kdevelop kdevelop-data
>   kdf kdm kedit kfind kfloppy kfocus kformula kfract kgeo kghostview
>   khexedit kiconedit kivio kjezz kjots kjumpingcube kleandisk klines klpq
>   kmago kmahjongg kmail kmines kmix kmoon knetload knode knotes kodo
>   koffice koffice-libs konq-plugins konqueror konquest konsole kontour
>   konverse korganizer korn koshell kpackage kpaint kpat kpm kpresenter
>   kprof kreatecd krecord kreversi kruler ksame kscd kscreensaver
>   kshisen ksirc ksmiletris ksnake ksnapshot ksokoban kspaceduel kspread
>   kstars ksysv ktalkd kteatime ktexmaker2 ktimer ktuberling ktux kugar
>   kuser kview kvirc kweather kwin4 kword kworldclock libbonoboui2-0
>   libbonoboui2-common libfam0 libgnome-desktop-0 libgnome2-0
>   libgnomeui-0 libgnomevfs2-0 libgnomevfs2-common libgtk-common
>   libkdegames libkdenetwork1 libkmid libkonq3 libpanel-applet2-0
>   libpango-common libstlport4.5 rep-gtk-gnome yelp
> The following NEW packages will be installed:
>   fontconfig libast2 libfam0c102 libmagick5.5.3 libssl0.9.7
>   libstartup-notification0 libstlport4.5c102
> The following packages will be upgraded
>   [ many ]
> 182 packages upgraded, 7 newly installed, 116 to remove and 1  not upgraded.
> 
> How do I tell dselect (or apt-get, if that's what I need to use) to leave k*
> the hell alone?  It bitches at me if I try to put them on hold manually.

Don't upgrade?  Or use aptitude, since it seems to listen more carefully
to me when I say 'don't upgrade this package'.

> Phil
> (Yes, I would love to downgrade to testing, but dselect doesn't know what
> to do when required packages don't exist in "more-stabler" distros.)

Use aptitude or apt?  I bet there's a way to make dselect do it, but
I've no idea how.

-rob



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Re: Emacs21 and menu bar

[Rob Weir]

On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 01:13:37PM +0100, Joerg Johannes wrote:
> Hi list
> 
> I have just installed emacs21 for being able to use the preview-latex 
> package. I really hate this menu bar with Icons (they make me think of 
> Word...).
> Can I disable this Icon menu bar, and get back to my old text-mode menu (I 
> can turn this one on with "menu-bar-mode 1", but then I have both text and 
> Icons).

From my ~/.emacs:
(tool-bar-mode -1)
(tooltip-mode -1)

-rob



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Re: Cd difficult to burn

[Rob Weir]

On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 08:11:40PM -0500, Antonio Rodriguez wrote:
> I posted a message to the list a while ago, some time in the early afternoon
> about a CD difficult to burn, but the message got somehow lost. In essence,
> how do I burn a CD difficult to burn, using "readcd" or "dd", any one, I
> don't really care which tool. I tried dd and readcd, both gave me errors.
> >From XCDroast the CD is just plain invisible.
> dd and readcd read must of the CD but somewhere they got some eror.
> Thanks

Sorry, what are you trying to do?  You don't burn a CD either readcd or
dd; you use either cdrdao or cdrecord.  You could possibly *read* a cd
with dd or readcd, is that what you mean?  I'm still not sure what 'burn
a CD difficult to burn' means.  Do you mean 'I have a slightly damaged
CD, how do I extract as much data as I can from it?'?

Hmmm, I hope this doesn't sound rude, but I'm pretty sure I can at least
point you in the right direction if I could only understand the
question.  :-)

-rob



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Re: CD sound

[Rob Weir]

On Thu, Jan 16, 2003 at 12:15:50PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> This is one of those, "It used to work..." problems.
> 
> I have OSS sound.
> I have one CD-R and one CDE-RW (scsi emulation blah-blah-blah)
> I have sound on things like XMMS, Xine.
> 
> I have no sound in my cdplayer.
> 
> I can start the disk spinning from wmcdplayer and wmsound shows nothing
> turned off.  But there's nothing coming through.
> I'm not sure where to even start looking.
> 
> /dev/cdrom is mapped to the devfs cdrom0 (which is the correct device).
> 
> aumix also shows the cd-player volume enabled.
> 
> Like I said, it used to work.  I jumped from Stable to Testing is that
> last thing I can think of doing that was of any significance.

[I think I just replied to another message from you, but anyhow...]

Playing an audio CD on your computer usually does not involve the
computer at all, aside from starting and stopping the disc; the cd drive
is directly connected to the sound card, using either an analogue or
digital cable, and just spits sound down to the card.  Perhaps you
haven't cranked the CD volume up high enough?  Are you using the drive
that's actually plugged into the card?  Has the cable come loose?

-rob



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Re: Help

[Matthew Weier O'Phinney]

-- Dominic Iadicicco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
(on Tuesday, 21 January 2003, 07:12 AM -0800):
> My Post are not getting to the list.
I've seen two in the past couple days. ;-)

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Re: X problems, likely vertical refresh

[Matthew Weier O'Phinney]

-- Matthew Weier O'Phinney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
(on Monday, 20 January 2003, 04:18 PM -0500):
> I just installed an ATI All-in-Wonder PCI VGA card in my machine, and
> I'm having a few problems with X.
> 
> I'm using a Slimline flat-panel LCD monitor
 
> I'm getting some wierd behaviour, though. When I load X, I get a gray
> pattern that has vertical dark areas that then gradate out to vertical
> lighter areas. Once blackbox has loaded with my backdrop, it's not
> noticable ... until you start looking at apps, and start to notice that
> wherever there was a dark bar, any text/graphics overlying that area are
> darkened and defocussed along those vertical strips. It makes it
> difficult to read, to say the least.

I neglected to mention I'm using Xfree86 4.2.1 from Debian testing.

As a followup:
I tried a number of things, from using the gatos project ati.2 4.2.0
binaries with the debian 4.2.1 distribution (caused wierd flicker), to
installing 4.2.0 binaries from Xfree86.org and using the gatos
binaries... none of which worked. I decided to go back to my backups of
my /usr/X11R6 directory (made just before trying the gatos binaries --
when I was still having the problems with the vertical banding) -- and
lo and behold but it's working now. 

Not sure what to attribute it to, if anything -- just going to go with
it for now.

Thanks for the suggestions, all.

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Re: Lilo warning causing problems

[Donald Spoon]

Felipe Martínez Hermo wrote:

	Hi all!

	I have just installed a new Debain box and configured a new
	kernel. I run Lilo and it says:

	Warning: Int 0x13 function 8 and function 0x48 return different
	head/sector geometries for BIOS drive 0x80 (also for drive 0x81)



This is usually caused by your BIOS reporting a "geometry" for the HD 
that is different from what the Linux kernel detects during its probing. 
   All the BIOSes have to do something with the Cylinder-Head-Sector 
settings in order to accomodate the newer, larger HDs.  All of this is 
covered in the "Large Disk HOWTO" at the LDP if you are interested in 
the details. The different brands of BIOS have differently appearing 
setup screens, so the below is a description of what I am seeing 
here...yours might be different, but you should be able to figure it out.

In the BIOS setup you should find a description of the HD(s) on your 
system with some settings you can change.  One of them should be called 
"Access Mode" and will offer a few different settingsselect the 
"LBA" setting.  Other choices might be "AUTO", "CHS", "LARGE".  You 
might want to cycle through all of these settings and see what the BIOS 
sets for the CHS values.  I find the "LBA" setting works best for me here.


	It installs correctly the boot sector, but when I try to boot
	with my new kernel, after the first kernel messages it reboots
	again and again and again



You might have something else going on here...dunno.  With something 
other than the "LBA" setting in the BIOS I usually see a series of 
letters (usually an "m") before it eventually hangs.  If changing the 
BIOS setting doesn't help you get past this point, you might want to 
post your /etc/lilo.conf file here...maybe some other eyes can see 
somehthing else.  Did you "roll your own" kernel or are you using one of 
the "stock" kernels?  Which version?

Cheers,
-Don Spoon-




Does anybody have a clue?

Thank you


	




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Large file support for smbmount

[Florian Sukup]

Hi,

I installed woody.

LFS is available.

I can mount a directory to a share on a win2k machine.

The win2k machine allows files >2GB.

'ls -l' shows wrong (huge) file sizes.

Copying from win2k machine to the Debian doesn't stop. The file on the 
Debian machine gets bigger and bigger.

ftp from win2k to Debian works.

What can I do to make it work.

Thank you in advance for any hints.

Florian.


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RE: can´t install debian on power mac G4

[Narins, Josh]

These instructions should work...

Install & Partition
http://people.debian.org/~branden
G4 install notes:
http://cattlegrid.net/~christophe/titanium/

I kept Mac OS X. I used Drive Setup to make two partitions, installed Mac OS
X on the second one (40 Gig linux, 20 Gig Mac)

That's all you have to do in Mac.

Then you run the debian installer, and delete and divide the first parittion
you made in Drive Setup.

Make all partitions HFS+ in Drive Setup.





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Subject: can´t install debian on power mac G4


when i start partition the hard disk i get a massage (no hard disk 
found) ,how should i solve this problem have been trying for many days 
and ican´t mange this  !
Help please
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Re: j2se 1.3.1 for debian sid

[Francois Chenais]

Thanks a lot But I have an error :-|


Setting up j2re1.4 (1.4.0.99beta-1) ...
update-alternatives: unable to make 
/usr/lib/mozilla-cvs/plugins/javaplugin_oji.so.dpkg-tmp a symlink to 
/etc/alternatives/javaplugin_oji-mozilla-cvs.so: No such file or directory
dpkg: error processing j2re1.4 (--configure):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2
Errors were encountered while processing:
 j2re1.4
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
tanna:/etc/init.d# 




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  | On Tuesday 21 Jan 2003 12:56 pm, Francois Chenais wrote:
  | > Hello,
  | >
  | >   Where can I find j2se 1.3.1 for debian sid ?
  | >   I have downloaded one but it needs a wrong library.
  | >   Can I installed this library ??
  | 
  | You cant, the glibc upgrade means you need a jdk >= 1.4.1
  | 
  | Suns should work, but blackdown provide apt-getable packages, which imo are 
  | better than suns (bug fixes, gnome/kde integration for javaws).
  | 
  | Add to you /etc/apt/sources.list (all one line):
  | 
  | #Blackdown Java
  | deb ftp://ftp.mirror.ac.uk/sites/ftp.blackdown.org/java-linux/debian/ unstable 
  | main non-free
  | 
  | Then run:
  | 
  | apt-get update
  | apt-get install j2sdk1.4 j2re1.4
  | 
  | And bobs your uncle
  | 
  | Tom




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Can't get sound to work (CMIxxxx)

[Jay]

Hello everyone!

I know that this topic may have been typed to the death already, but I need
help getting my soundchips (CMI8xxx, the ones that are already built in to
the motherboard).

I read the old SuSe Linux manual, it had some instructions for sound which I
tried to follow and so far I tried sndconfig, and dselect(ed) isapnp (and it
recognizes the soundchips at bootup), but it nags that I need a 2.xomething
kernel in order to run, or that it needs soundcard.o files, I think I do
have the correct kernel version, but I cannot get any sound out of it.

Am I missing something or is there something else that I need to read
(something I'm overlooking from the Woody CD dist)?

Thanks In Advanced!

May the Force of the Dragon's Spirit be with you...In Accordance With The
Prophecy.

Happy Hacking, Bright Blessings and Gentle Breezes!

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Burning a CD without ide-scsi

[Rus Foster]

Hi All,
I've always burnt CD's using ide-scsi and xcdroast. However I'm wondering
is there a way I can burn CD's onto my IDE burner without using SCSI
emulation?

Cheers

Rus

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Re: Maintaining a mixed system

[Colin Watson]

On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 02:54:32PM +1100, Rob Weir wrote:
> There's the pinning method that everyone else has suggested, of course,
> but there is another way.  apt-get, since the release of woody, has a
> 'source' function, which can download source packages from the Debian
> archive and build deb packages from them.

In fact, it's had it for rather longer than that. The apt changelog says
it was added in version 0.3.6, which was in slink.

Since woody, the apt-src tool has been written too; it has some rough
edges, but I find it very useful for maintaining backports.

Cheers,

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486 kernel images

[machoamerica]

i'm looking through the kernel-image packages and i see packages for all flavors of 
intel/amd processors except the 486.  can i use either kernel-image-2.4.x-386 or 
kernel-image-2.4.x-586 or do i have to muck around with a kernel-source-2.4.x package?

thanks,
macho


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Re: Desktop productivity with Debian GNU/LINUX

[Hal Vaughan]

On Tuesday 21 January 2003 02:46 am, Eduard Bloch wrote:
> #include 
>
> * Hal Vaughan [Tue, Jan 21 2003, 01:52:40AM]:
> > > Linux, being an OS by geeks for geeks, up until just recently, needs a
> > > geek to get it set up properly. Mandrake and others have made vast
> > > improvements, but it's not automatic. If you expect it to be, you'll be
> > > disappointed. Wait another couple of years. Until then consider
> > > yourself a consumer; as a general rule, consumers get their computers
> > > pre-installed with an operating system and don't do their own OS
> > > installation (although they might do a "restore" using the System
> > > Restore disk that came with their computer).
> >
> > At the risk of sounding like a troll, I have to take issue with this.  To
> > be even more blunt, this paragraph is, in my view, an example of some of
> > the worst geek snobbery and elitism I've seen online.
>
> Bullshit. Truth is truth, even if it may hurt.

Then, speaking as a former teacher who spent years working residential 
treatment facilities, that would explain your quick, knee-jerk reaction to my 
comments.  You're right.  Truth is truth, even if it may hurt.  I guess I hit 
a vein of truth and hurts.  Maybe you haven't noticed, but you accuse this 
person of only whinning, while your response is nothing more than excuses of 
why it's all wrong.

> > I also have to ask how long it's been since you tried Mandrake last.  I
> > found Mandrake 8.0 to be great at detecting EVERYTHING on my system. 
> > There was basically NO post-install to deal with.  Printer drivers were
> > there -- everything I needed was there.
>
> Maybe what you needed because your average system with carefully
> choosen, linux-compliant hardware, perfectly matched the system that
> Mandrake may support. But do you really think that a newbie is able to
> compile a driver (module) manually if there is no free driver for it? Do
> you really think a newbie is able to setup channels for a TV card
> manually (seen last week on SuSE, nice GUI but braindead package pool,
> no zapping, no scantv, broken xawtv, only old xawtv able to show at
> least one channel). There are lots of things that are _not_ simple and
> not prepared by some upstream/distributor/vendor. You can workaround
> simple when you have some experience and are able to RTFM, but a newbie
> looses.

Actually, I would ask you, as well, how long it's been since you've tried to 
install Mandrake.  I am NOT talking installing it on a system with specially 
chosen hardware.  In fact, when I started with it a year ago, the first 
system I put it on included a Winmodem.  Mandrake recognized it and got it 
running perfectly.  All I had to do to configure it was to use the Mandrake 
wizard and tyep in the phone number, user name, and password.  It recognized 
ALL my hardware and, in new installs, continues to do so.  As for your 
reference to a "braindead package pool," you are showing the same snotty 
elitism I was complaining about.  What do you know about this person?  How 
smart/stupid is he?  Are you so much better than he is because you can set up 
and run Debian?  Does that mean you are so smart you can judge him and others 
as inferior?  If not, look at yourself.  That is basically what you and your 
letter are doing -- saying that you are better because you know more about 
computers and Linux and denigrating people who are not as smart as you are in 
the fields you have chosen to explore.

I'm not just letting it fly.  I'm confronting you with it.  I'm sure you won't 
like it and we'll get more knee-jerk reactions from you and others who are 
also in your deep state of self-congradulationary elitist justification that 
you use to avoid dealing with humanity and life.  Why?  Because this type of 
attitude is one of the biggest obstacles Linux faces in reachign a wider 
audience and being adopted on more systems and on a wider variety of systems.

On the other hand, that may not be what you want.  Perhaps, instead of seeing 
more people using Linux and being able to use a stable OS with a reasonable 
amount of security, perhaps you prefer being able to tell people (as you look 
down your nose at them), "I don't use Windows," and have your attitude carry 
the unspoken comment of, "I'm just too smart for it, and I'm much smarter 
than you."  And I'm sure, within the Linux community, you enjoy the same 
elitism as you tell people you use Debian and can enjoy the little 
self-congradulatory pat on the back you give yourself with the implication 
that creates that you are somehow better or smarter than other Linux users.

If this selfish elitism is not what you want, than you need to seriously 
examine yourself, since it comes through in almost every line of your 
response.

Now, as for XawTV, I found it quite easy to setup on Mandrake.  I barely had 
to read more than a few lines of the man page and had it working pretty 
quickly.  One would find it easy to deduce from that last paragraph of y

Re: How to change start up screen resolution for X?

[Mark L. Kahnt]

On Tue, 2003-01-21 at 10:12, Anthony Campbell wrote:
> On 20 Jan 2003, Nathan E Norman wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 03:10:20PM -0800, Osamu Aoki wrote:
> > > On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 03:39:29PM -0600, Nathan E Norman wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 01:50:45PM -0600, will trillich wrote:
> > > > > all i can get is 800x600 which ain't much. :(
> > > > > 
> > > > > i've googled for MEMOREX-TELEX (CDS-4583) and haven't found much
> > > > > in the way of answers for horiz/vert refresh or clock speeds.
> > > > > anybody know of a site somewhere that's got a collection of that
> > > > > kind of info?
> > > > 
> > > > CDS-4583 is P/N 955313-003 which is a '14" SVGA monitor'.  My
> > > > recollection of Super-VGA is that you could do 1024x768 at some crappy
> > > > refresh rate like 60Hz ... but anything better than that is a long
> > > > shot.
> > > 
> > > Good google :) but SVGA is Super-VGA and only 800 x 720 !
> > > 
> > > CGA:   640 X 200 (8*8 font, 80chars * 25 lines)
> > > DCGA:  640 X 400 (8*16 font, 80chars * 25 lines)
> > > VGA:   640 x 480
> > > SVGA:  800 x 720
> > > XGA:  1024 x 768
> > > SXGA  1280 x1024 
> > > UXGA: 1600 x1440
> > 
> 
> [snip]
> 
> On a slightly different note, is there much point in going to the higher
> resolutions even if they are available? My monitor will go up to
> 1600x1440 but in practice I don't find any use in going above 1024x768.
> I know the argument is that you can have more windows open but this
> means you have to squint at small type. If you make the type larger you
> are back where you started.
> 
> I therefore leave mine at 1024x768 and (in icewm) have 9 desktops with
> different apps on each. This seems to me more sensible, or am I missing
> something?
> 
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I would say that it depends on how large of a monitor you are using -
two low of a resolution on too large of a monitor is nearly as difficult
to view (a former employer thought that they were doing a great thing
over a decade ago by buying a 19" monitor for the machine they had me
doing graphic design on, and then installed it set to 640x480.)

I run 1280x1024 with 10 pt text and anti-aliased fonts on a 17" monitor,
but that is because I am accustomed to that after years of typesetting.
If I was running a larger monitor, I'd want a higher resolution (like
when I replace this with a wide screen :)) ) but it is a question of
individual comfort and eyesight ability (aka YMMV)
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Re: Burning a CD without ide-scsi

[Phil Reynolds]

On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 04:26:13PM +, Rus Foster wrote:
> Hi All,
> I've always burnt CD's using ide-scsi and xcdroast. However I'm wondering
> is there a way I can burn CD's onto my IDE burner without using SCSI
> emulation?

Not that I know of in Linux. Are you having problems with it or just looking
for a change?

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autofs vs amd: Is there a preference?

[Robert L. Harris]

I'm looking at my automount situation and wondering.  Is one going
away?  Which is the "way to go" for automounting, amd or autofs?

Robert


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Re: 486 kernel images

[Johan Ehnberg]

machoamerica wrote:

i'm looking through the kernel-image packages and i see packages for
all flavors of intel/amd processors except the 486.  can i use either
kernel-image-2.4.x-386 or kernel-image-2.4.x-586 or do i have to muck
around with a kernel-source-2.4.x package?

thanks, macho


You can't use a kernel compiled for a better machine than you have, but 
yes, you can compile it for your machine from source. It's not that 
hard, but it'll take a while on a 486 :=). Anyway, you are safe with the 
386 version, and the performance loss shouldn't be noticeable.

hth,
/johan


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Re: 486 kernel images

[Stephen A. Witt]

On Tue, 21 Jan 2003, machoamerica wrote:

>
> i'm looking through the kernel-image packages and i see packages for all
> flavors of intel/amd processors except the 486.  can i use either
> kernel-image-2.4.x-386 or kernel-image-2.4.x-586 or do i have to muck
> around with a kernel-source-2.4.x package?
>

Use the i386 kernel images, they should run fine on a 486. I don't think
the 586 image would work on a 486. I know I once compiled a kernel package
using Pentium as the processor type and then mistakenly tried to install
it on a 486 machine and it crashed almost immediately.



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Re: 486 kernel images

[Chris Lale]

machoamerica wrote:
> i'm looking through the kernel-image packages and i see packages for
> all flavors of intel/amd processors except the 486.  can i use either
> kernel-image-2.4.x-386 or kernel-image-2.4.x-586 or do i have to muck
> around with a kernel-source-2.4.x package?

AFAIK you want kernel-image-2.4.x-386. This is a kind of "vanilla" 
flavour that will run on anything. You certainly do not want the 586 
version since the 486 processor is not a Pentium!

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Re: Mouse not aligned in X

[Hubert Chan]

> "Kent" == Kent West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Kent> Just installed Woody. imps2 mouse on /dev/psaux works fine, except
Kent> that the "sweet spot" where the click takes place is off-centered
Kent> to the left of where the actual click is made by about the width
Kent> of a close button (the X in the upper right hand corner of a
Kent> window) in icewm.

Try using the software cursor.  In the video card Device section, add a
line that says `Option "SWCursor" "on"'.  This causes XFree86 to draw
the pointer itself, rather than letting the video card draw it.

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Re: Is this normal with USB mice?

[Brian McGroarty]

On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 11:36:17PM -0500, Ayman Haidar wrote:
> you need to setup both mice in your XF86Config, mine looks like this:
> --
> Section "InputDevice"
> Identifier  "Configured Mouse"
> Driver  "mouse"
> Option  "CorePointer"
> Option  "Device""/dev/psaux"
> Option  "Protocol"  "PS/2"
> Option  "Emulate3Buttons"   "true"
> #Option "ZAxisMapping"  "4 5"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "InputDevice"
> Identifier  "Generic Mouse"
> Driver  "mouse"
> Option  "SendCoreEvents""true"
> Option  "Device""/dev/input/mice"
> Option  "Protocol"  "ImPS/2"
> #Option "Emulate3Buttons"   "true"
> Option  "ZAxisMapping"  "4 5"
> EndSection
> 
> 
> Section "ServerLayout"
> Identifier  "Default Layout"
> Screen  "Default Screen"
> InputDevice "Generic Keyboard"
> InputDevice "Configured Mouse"
> InputDevice "Generic Mouse"
> EndSection

You do this even if you have no PS/2 mouse?


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Re: Lilo and vga=791

[T. Beauregard]

Is this the memory error that GrUB 0.91 gives?  This is resolved in 0.93.

Tim

Sridhar M.A. wrote:
> Given a chance, I would like to use grub, but I _cannot_ with my present
> motherboard :-(




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Re: How to change start up screen resolution for X?

[Ross Boylan]

On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 03:12:39PM +, Anthony Campbell wrote:
> On a slightly different note, is there much point in going to the higher
> resolutions even if they are available? My monitor will go up to
> 1600x1440 but in practice I don't find any use in going above 1024x768.
> I know the argument is that you can have more windows open but this
> means you have to squint at small type. If you make the type larger you
> are back where you started.
> 
> I therefore leave mine at 1024x768 and (in icewm) have 9 desktops with
> different apps on each. This seems to me more sensible, or am I missing
> something?
> 
> AC

If you increase the resolution your type size will get smaller, but
there are several ways you can make it bigger.  First, check that X
knows the correct dpi at your resolution.  I found this helped a bit
for me (at least kdm seemed to take it into account--not sure about
anything else).  Second, you can change your font on the fly or via X
resources or application default settings.

On the other hand, given the physical size of the monitor, some high
resolutions won't make sense.  For 17" 1024x768 is usually good,
though I'm always tempted to push it a bit higher.  You monitor and
card may also put other limits on what's reasonable.

An unpleasant trick of some monitor makers is to advertise high
resolutions which are unusable in practice because of low refresh
rates. 


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Slightly OT: KDE3.1 vs. Gnome2 Seeking Info!

[John Foster]

I recently installed Both Gnome2 from SID  and a few other places and 
KDE3.1  Much ot this was installed using apt-build from sources outside 
the US. I have had VERY decent results with both when using the display 
manager GDM but when I switch over to KDM only the KDE3 apps  and some 
old X apps are available to the menu system. I have tried using 
kde-appfinder to solve this issue, but it seems to not see the gnome 
apps except for evolution 1.21 from Ximian. I prefer KDM as it seems to 
perform better in most other respects and the KDE configuration systems 
are far superior to Gnome at present "IMHO" I am seeking othere with 
similar experiences and possibly any solutions to this problem. There 
are many Gnome apps that I wish to use, especially GIMP and GMC, and 
some of the GTK products for database management. None of these are 
located by the menu system in KDE. I am aware of the fact that I can 
probably set them up by hand but I am trying to find a more automated 
way. Any suggestions?? I am running a mixed testing/unstable Debian 
systems most of it compiled using G++3.2 and optimized for AMD processors.
Thanks!!
John Foster


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Adjusting Subjects when breaking threads (Was: Re: URGENT:Building kernel.)

[Mark L. Kahnt]

On Tue, 2003-01-21 at 08:36, Rob Weir wrote:
> [Top-posting is evil, mmmkay?]
> 
> This email makes my eyes bleed: 
> * Don't top post
> * Don't use ridiculous amounts of white space
> * Don't let Outlook put in that moronic quote header
> * Don't send from an address that attaches stupid legal notices to the
>   end, ESPECIALLY to a public list
> * Don't put a mailto: in your email real name field, that's just stupid
> * Don't use the word 'urgent' in the subject of an email that is
>   obviously quite non-urgent.
> 
> I'm not trying to flame anyone here, and the bizarre formatting of the
> message below makes it impossible for me to even figure out who wrote
> what, but sticking to some basic formatting rules makes it easier for
> people to read the list, which in turn makes it more likely that you'll
> actually get help.
> 
> Thanks for your time, I'll return to my box :-)
> 
> -rob
> 
> On Thu, Jan 16, 2003 at 12:31:30PM -0500, Narins, Josh wrote:
> > The debian way can be found, if I understand, with "man make-kpkg"
> > 
> > Kevin, I hope you'll be pleasantly surprised. I sure as  > at author request> was.
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 12:21 PM
> > To: Irene Sygkouna
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: URGENT: Building kernel.

[SNIP!]

> > "Irene
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Re: How to change start up screen resolution for X?

[Ross Boylan]

On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 02:49:29AM -0500, Travis Crump wrote:
> nate wrote:
> >Ross Boylan said:
> >
> >>I am looking for a way to get hardware accelerated 3d performance out of
> >>my video card.  For reasons detailed below, this seems to come down to the
> >>need to start X in a lower resolution and depth than I
> >>customarily use.  I am looking for a good way to do that, or the
> >>encouraging news that some other approach is possible.
> >
> >
> >
> >put the mode you wish to use on startup as the first mode. e.g. for my
> >system I use 1600x1200 as my primary modeline, and my
> >/etc/X11/XF86Config-4 has:
> >
> >Section "Screen"
> >Identifier  "Screen 1"
> >Device  "Nvidia Geforce3"
> >Monitor "Viewsonic PF790"
> >DefaultDepth 24
> >
> >Subsection "Display"
> >Depth   8
> >Modes  "1024x768"
> >EndSubsection
> >Subsection "Display"
> >Depth   16
> >Modes   "1024x768"
> >EndSubsection
> >Subsection "Display"
> >Depth   24
> >Modes   "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768"
> >EndSubsection
> >EndSection
> >
> >
> >you should be able to start multiple X servers by doing something like
> >this on the command line
> >
> >startx -- :1
> >
> >though, last time I tried I couldn't figure out a good way to specify
> >a resolution to be used along with color depth on the command line if
> >I wanted it in a different resolution, 
> 
> What I do is just make up a second Section "Screen" in the same 
> XF86Config-4 and give it its own identifier.  When I want to use it I 
> just do:
> 
> startx -- :1 -screen 
> 
> 
> 

Thanks to both of you for this very helpful information.  I have a
couple other points of information for those who may find this
message, and some additional questions.

It's necessary to omit higher resolutions from the modeline entirely.
For example,
Modes  "640x480" "1024x768"
starts the screen at 640x480, but this is on a virtual 1024x768
desktop.  X always looks for the biggest size in determining the
virtual desktop size.  (There is a Virtual command in the Display
subsection, but it operates just by knocking out the higher
resolutions).

Second, my card (Matrox Millenium G200) I could not get DRI until I
loaded the agpgart and mga modules.  I only discovered this from the
README at Matrox's site (wonder if I should file a bug, of if I just
missed it).  This seems a little weird, since mga was undoubtedly
loaded by XFree (though it has its own loader, I gather).

My remaining questions or curiosities are, first, whether anyone can
explain why DRI needed this extra help and second, whether there is an
alternative to running startx as root.  When I try it as non-root I
get the error that I don't have permission to start X.  This is
consistent with some of the docs saying only root can start XFree.
But it means I end up with the new session running as root, which is
not a very safe way to play a game!  (For reasons I haven't tracked
down, it starts up an AfterStep session, though it's not my primary
environment).  


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A way to check ssh X forwarding?

[Lukas Ruf]

Dear all,

using OpenSSH in its latest release on several machines, I experience
no problems but on one station. Copying the identical configuration to
the boxes didn't help me such that I can get X forwarding.

in sshd_config:
StrictModes yes
X11Forwarding yes
X11DisplayOffset 10

in ssh_config:
Host *
  ForwardAgent yes
  ForwardX11 yes


Thanks for any hint.

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Re: How to change start up screen resolution for X?

[Mike Dresser]

On Tue, 21 Jan 2003, Ross Boylan wrote:

> anything else).  Second, you can change your font on the fly or via X
> resources or application default settings.

Indeed, I run a 20" Viewsonic 20G at the office here at 1600x1200.  My
xterms are set to use a 10x20 font, and I use icewm with the blueHeart
scheme.  Works very nicely for me, i can have 4 xterms open at roughly
80x25 size, or one huge one.

Recycled it off a CADD user who was complaining it was a) fuzzy b) rounded
screen.  Fixed the fuzzy with 10 minutes of work to open it up and adjust
the horizontal and vertical focus.  Rounded, I don't care about.

> An unpleasant trick of some monitor makers is to advertise high
> resolutions which are unusable in practice because of low refresh
> rates.

At home, my Sony(sgi branded) 20" gdm-20e20, can only do 65hz at the
maximum of 1600x1200.  Powertweak let me push my geforce2 gts to 65
instead of 60, but it's just too small inWindows.  On the bright side,
you can pick these up cheap on leases.(for about 100 bucks!)  Use the
Sony 20SE drivers in Windows, or get ahold of powertweak.

I usually work at 1280x960x75hz, as i find the non-squareness of 1280x1024
to be annoying.  I'm not sure how annoying it would be on an LCD panel,
which all of them seem to be stuck at that resolution.

Mike


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Re: Autofs

[Joakim Hove]

Hi Alvin,

thanks for answering my post.


> >  /etc/auto.misc:
> >  /-
> >  | # $Id: auto.misc,v 1.2 1997/10/06 21:52:04 hpa Exp $
> >  | # This is an automounter map and it has the following format
> >  | # key [ -mount-options-separated-by-comma ] location
> >  | # Details may be found in the autofs(5) manpage
> >  | 
> >  | kernel   -ro 
>ftp.kernel.org:/pub/linux
> >  | boot -fstype=ext3:/dev/hda1
> >  | removable-fstype=ext2,sync,nodev,nosuid  :/dev/hdd
> >  | cd   -fstype=iso9660,ro,sync,nodev,nosuid:/dev/hdc
> >  | floppy   -fstype=auto,sync,nodev,nosuid  :/dev/fd0
> >  | local-fstype=ext3,ro,soft,intr,nosuid:/dev/hda5

This "local" entry I added just to test autofs - I was not really
interested in using autofs to mount a local filesystem. It works now,
so the automounter is probably quite sane. However the kernel entry
(which I have from the shipped configuration files) does still not
work. 

> it's not automounting...
>   - what is the error messages in /var/log/

Nothing is logged.


What I was actually interested in was having a special file/directory
in my file-system which was "linked" to file on the web (read only),
e.g. like this:

 debian.faq -> http://www.debian.org/documentation/faq.html

so that when I accessed the "file" debian.faq on my local filesystem
the real file was downloaded from the url above.

I thought autofs was a suitable tool for this, but that was maybe
wrong? Is my scheme at all possible, and how would one implement it?

Regards

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Re: A way to check ssh X forwarding?

[Colin Watson]

On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 07:03:25PM +0100, Lukas Ruf wrote:
> Dear all,
> 
> using OpenSSH in its latest release on several machines, I experience
> no problems but on one station. Copying the identical configuration to
> the boxes didn't help me such that I can get X forwarding.

ssh -v should give more clues; if not, try -vv and then -vvv. You can
also get debugging output at the server end by running sshd with -d,
-dd, or -ddd.

Is it possible that xbase-clients simply isn't installed at one or other
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mkinitrd trouble

[James Miller]

Hello all

I am pulling my hair trying to get Debian Woody to boot with an initrd
image.  I have compiled the kernel 2.4.18 with Loopback device support, RAM
disk support , 8192KB, and initrd (all compiled into the kernel).  I am able
to run mkinird just fine 'mkinird 2.4.18-12 -o /initrd-2.4.18-12.img'.  The
system boots just fine with the first entry in lilo (below) but when I
select 'Linux-initrd' the system is able to create the ramdrive:
RAMDISK: cramfs filesystem found at block0
RAMDISK: Loading 788 blocks [1 disk] into ram disk... done
Freeing initrd memory: 788k freed
Kernel panic:  VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 01:00


Here is a snippet of lilo.conf
default=Linux

image=/vmlinuz
label=Linux
read-only

image=/vmlinuz
label=Linux-initrd
initrd=/inird-2.4.18-12.img
append="root=/dev/ram0"
#read-only
#   restricted
#   alias=1


I'm sure there's some simple step that I'm missing and I sure would
appreciate any help.


Thanks,
Jim


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RE: Error updating unstable non-free Packages

[Narins, Josh]

>On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 03:06:05PM +0800, Tim Wood wrote:
>> I get a parsing error in  unstable non-free Packages, which results in
>> "Dynamic MMap ran out of room" error.
>> This occurs parsing package graphviz (NewVersion1).
>> 
>> If this is a bug where do I report it as occuring?
>> If not, where might the fault lie?
>
> As you asked this question, I can tell that you haven't checked in 
> the archives.  This particular question has been asked dozens of times
> in the past month or so, I think most recently yesterday or the day 
> before that.  Take a look in the archives.  http://lists.debian.org

OK, why?

What changed that, all of a sudden it seems, this question is popping up all
over?


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Re: Cd difficult to burn

[Antonio Rodriguez]

What I meant was: Wanting to burn a CD, first had to copy the original CD to
an iso file to my hard disk. This copying process was the difficult one, as
I said. I guess is my fault for not explaining well

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RE: firewire / hfs volumes (continued)

[Narins, Josh]

Jason Healy wrote:
> You might also try a filesystem type usable by both machines; FAT32
> is read/writeable by both linux and mac.  The only drawbacks are 
> lack of permissions metadata, possible filename truncation to 8.3, 
> and a file size limit of 4GB (e.g., you can't backup DVD images or 
> large media files).

Thx Jason, sounds like a plan (I have/had the same question). Before I knew
what was what, I had placed a 2 Gig partition on my drive between OS X and
Linux.  I'll convert it to FAT32 soon. 

For big files "over FAT32" you could try 

> split --bytes=20 bigfile

to get it into 2 Gig chunks

then 

> cat xa[a-z] > reassembled

on the other side.

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Re: fonts & sizes

[Joris Huizer]

Where can I change the -dpi parameter  of X ?


--- Gee Law <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> applications -> preferences -> fonts allows you
> change the font size of 
> gnome2 apps.
> 
> you could also look into the -dpi parameter of X.
> xdpyinfo will show 
> the current setting. increase it to get smaller
> fonts. this works one 
> works globally.
> 
> gee.
> 
> On 2003.01.21 09:07 Joris Huizer wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > This is probably a bit silly but I really can't
> find
> > how to change the size of menu texts etc.
> > I think they are a bit too big but I don't find
> how I
> > can change them ?? (I'm using the gdm)
> ...
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Re: restart / shutdown by normal user

[Paul Johnson]

On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 01:05:36PM -0800, Joris Huizer wrote:
> In the current (default) settings restarting &
> shutting down is only allowed for the root user;
> How can I change that so normal users can shut down
> (restart) ?

If you use KDM, try logging out and hitting the shutdown button.
Otherwise, just su for that?

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Re: fonts & sizes

[Gee Law]

as root:

debian:/home/gee# vi /etc/gdm/gdm.conf

page to the end and you will see a section definig the x server. this 
is mine:

# Definition of the standard X server.
[server-Standard]
name=Standard server
command=/usr/X11R6/bin/X -dpi 100
flexible=true

gee.

On 2003.01.21 19:01 Joris Huizer wrote:
Where can I change the -dpi parameter  of X ?


--- Gee Law <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> applications -> preferences -> fonts allows you
> change the font size of
> gnome2 apps.
>
> you could also look into the -dpi parameter of X.
> xdpyinfo will show
> the current setting. increase it to get smaller
> fonts. this works one
> works globally.
>
> gee.
>
> On 2003.01.21 09:07 Joris Huizer wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > This is probably a bit silly but I really can't
> find
> > how to change the size of menu texts etc.
> > I think they are a bit too big but I don't find
> how I
> > can change them ?? (I'm using the gdm)
> ...
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Re: A way to check ssh X forwarding?

[Lukas Ruf]

* Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-01-21 20:14]:
> On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 07:03:25PM +0100, Lukas Ruf wrote:
> > using OpenSSH in its latest release on several machines, I experience
> > no problems but on one station. Copying the identical configuration to
> > the boxes didn't help me such that I can get X forwarding.
> 
> Is it possible that xbase-clients simply isn't installed at one or other
> end?
> 

no xbase-clients were installed!

Thanks a lot!

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Re: Smart relay setting for Exim...

[Darryl L. Pierce]

On 2003.01.18 19:36 Karl E. Jorgensen wrote:


Everything's almost working now. All I need to do is figure out the 
SMTP host here at work and I'm fine. From home it works like a charm. 
Thanks, mate. :)

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Re: j2se 1.3.1 for debian sid

[Tom Badran]

On Tuesday 21 Jan 2003 4:10 pm, Francois Chenais wrote:
> Thanks a lot But I have an error :-|
>
>
> Setting up j2re1.4 (1.4.0.99beta-1) ...
> update-alternatives: unable to make
> /usr/lib/mozilla-cvs/plugins/javaplugin_oji.so.dpkg-tmp a symlink to
> /etc/alternatives/javaplugin_oji-mozilla-cvs.so: No such file or directory
> dpkg: error processing j2re1.4 (--configure):
>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2
> Errors were encountered while processing:
>  j2re1.4
> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
> tanna:/etc/init.d#

 Forgot about that :) Its a bug in the packages. You just have to make the 
directory /usr/lib/mozilla-cvs/plugins (which normally means you have to make 
/usr/lib/mozilla-cvs as well) and then it will work

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ppp

[Matt]

I'm lost with ppp, while trying to startisdnutils i get:
"Sorry - this system lacks PPP kernel support.", i've
next to own compiled the woody 2418bf24 and ppp is compiled
as module. lsmod shows hisax and isdn running but i cant
ad ippp0 in any way.
any hint which could point me to the track ?
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Re: mkinitrd trouble

[Doug MacFarlane]

On 21 Jan 2003, 12:49:13, James Miller wrote:

> Here is a snippet of lilo.conf
> default=Linux
> 
> image=/vmlinuz
> label=Linux
> read-only
> 
> image=/vmlinuz
> label=Linux-initrd
>   initrd=/inird-2.4.18-12.img

don't you mean 

initrd-2.4.18-12.img . . . 

>   append="root=/dev/ram0"

and I don't know what you are trying to accomplish with this append . . .

it's not necessary . . . as long as the symlink to the initrd image is in
/ and the initrd image is in /boot . . 

> #read-only
> #   restricted
> #   alias=1

madmac

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RE: mkinitrd trouble

[Narins, Josh]

_I_AM_NO_EXPERT_

Did you compile the kernel with cramfs, also?

You didn't mention it.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 2:01 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: mkinitrd trouble


Hello all

I am pulling my hair trying to get Debian Woody to boot with an initrd
image.  I have compiled the kernel 2.4.18 with Loopback device support, RAM
disk support , 8192KB, and initrd (all compiled into the kernel).  I am able
to run mkinird just fine 'mkinird 2.4.18-12 -o /initrd-2.4.18-12.img'.  The
system boots just fine with the first entry in lilo (below) but when I
select 'Linux-initrd' the system is able to create the ramdrive:
RAMDISK: cramfs filesystem found at block0
RAMDISK: Loading 788 blocks [1 disk] into ram disk... done Freeing initrd
memory: 788k freed Kernel panic:  VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 01:00


Here is a snippet of lilo.conf
default=Linux

image=/vmlinuz
label=Linux
read-only

image=/vmlinuz
label=Linux-initrd
initrd=/inird-2.4.18-12.img
append="root=/dev/ram0"
#read-only
#   restricted
#   alias=1


I'm sure there's some simple step that I'm missing and I sure would
appreciate any help.


Thanks,
Jim


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Network Administrator
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Re: How to change start up screen resolution for X?

[Nathan E Norman]

On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 03:12:39PM +, Anthony Campbell wrote:
> > > CGA:   640 X 200 (8*8 font, 80chars * 25 lines)
> > > DCGA:  640 X 400 (8*16 font, 80chars * 25 lines)
> > > VGA:   640 x 480
> > > SVGA:  800 x 720
> > > XGA:  1024 x 768
> > > SXGA  1280 x1024 
> > > UXGA: 1600 x1440
> > 
> 
> [snip]
> 
> On a slightly different note, is there much point in going to the higher
> resolutions even if they are available? My monitor will go up to
> 1600x1440 but in practice I don't find any use in going above 1024x768.
> I know the argument is that you can have more windows open but this
> means you have to squint at small type. If you make the type larger you
> are back where you started.
> 
> I therefore leave mine at 1024x768 and (in icewm) have 9 desktops with
> different apps on each. This seems to me more sensible, or am I missing
> something?

Personal preference, and monitor size, I suspect.  I have a 19"
monitor where I regularly run 1600x1200; I like being able to have a
lot of terminal windows open on the same desktop when I'm coding.

My sparc has a 20" monitor; I run 1280x1024 there.  I find 1024x768 to
be irritating (but obviously YMMV :-)

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exim4 sources

[David H. Clymer]

Hi folks.

In an attempt to get the sources for exim4, I just added the following
urls to my sources.list, and apt-get update-ed. when I do an apt-cache
search, however I'm only bringing up references to exim 3.35. Is exim4
included in testing or unstable packages? I thought I had heard mention
of it earlier on this list or debian-isp (which was why I tried the apt
way rather than grabbing the sources elsewhere).

So, my question is: am I all wrong about exim version 4 sources being
available via apt or might i be messing up elsewhere?



# stable packages
deb ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian stable main contrib 
deb http://non-us.debian.org/ stable/non-US main contrib 
deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main contrib
# stable sources
deb-src ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian stable main contrib 
deb-src http://non-us.debian.org/ stable/non-US main contrib 
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main contrib

# testing sources
deb-src ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian testing main contrib 
deb-src http://non-us.debian.org/ testing/non-US main contrib 
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main contrib

# unstable sources
deb-src ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib 
deb-src http://non-us.debian.org/ unstable/non-US main contrib


--[my search]--

woody:/etc/apt# apt-cache search exim |grep exim
exim - An MTA (Mail Transport Agent)
exim-doc - Exim MTA info documentation
exim-doc-html - Exim MTA html documentation
eximon - X monitor for the exim mail transport agent.
rexima - A nice little ncurses mixer.
exim-tls - Exim Mailer - with TLS (SSL) support

woody:/etc/apt# apt-cache -a show exim
Package: exim
Priority: important
Section: mail
Installed-Size: 1213
Maintainer: Mark Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Architecture: i386
Version: 3.35-1
Replaces: mail-transport-agent
Provides: mail-transport-agent
Depends: libc6 (>= 2.2.4-4), libdb2 (>= 2:2.7.7-4), libident (>=
0.22-1), libldap2 (>= 2.0.2-2), libpam0g, libpcre3, cron (>=3.0pl1-42)
Recommends: netbase
Suggests: mail-reader, eximon
Conflicts: mail-transport-agent, exim-doc-html (<=3.00-2),
 suidregister (<<0.50)
Filename: pool/main/e/exim/exim_3.35-1_i386.deb
Size: 759148
MD5sum: 66973322cf3ba8f9b9575cd176214db1
Description: An MTA (Mail Transport Agent)
 This MTA is rather easier to configure than smail or sendmail.
 It is a drop-in replacement for sendmail/mailq/rsmtp.
 Advanced features include the ability to reject connections from
 known spam sites, and an extremely efficient queue processing
 algorithm.
Task: mail-server


davidc


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Installing Debian on an iPAQ

[Darryl L. Pierce]

Anybody have experience doing this? Can anybody point me to some 
information on doing so?

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Re: Error updating unstable non-free Packages

[Colin Watson]

On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 01:51:48PM -0500, Narins, Josh wrote:
> >On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 03:06:05PM +0800, Tim Wood wrote:
> >> I get a parsing error in  unstable non-free Packages, which results in
> >> "Dynamic MMap ran out of room" error.
> >> This occurs parsing package graphviz (NewVersion1).
> >> 
> >> If this is a bug where do I report it as occuring?
> >> If not, where might the fault lie?
[...]
> OK, why?
> 
> What changed that, all of a sudden it seems, this question is popping up all
> over?

Evidently some combination of package lists recently started to exceed
the default limit. I don't see this problem tracking only unstable; I've
seen stable+testing+unstable suggested as the problem.

If you're trying to track all three of these, it might be worth
considering if you really need to. (Of course, it's still a bug in apt
for dealing with its limit being reached quite so gracelessly.)

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Re: Autofs

[Alvin Oga]

hi ya joakim

> > >  /etc/auto.misc:
> > >  /-
> > >  | # $Id: auto.misc,v 1.2 1997/10/06 21:52:04 hpa Exp $
> > >  | # This is an automounter map and it has the following format
> > >  | # key [ -mount-options-separated-by-comma ] location
> > >  | # Details may be found in the autofs(5) manpage
> > >  | 
> > >  | kernel -ro 
>ftp.kernel.org:/pub/linux



> > it's not automounting...
> > - what is the error messages in /var/log/
> 
> Nothing is logged.

something should be logged ... donno where in your box it would be
messages or syslog   in /var/log
or possibly /var/log/autofs/*
 
 
> What I was actually interested in was having a special file/directory
> in my file-system which was "linked" to file on the web (read only),
> e.g. like this:
> 
>  debian.faq -> http://www.debian.org/documentation/faq.html

make sure that faq.html and other doc files is exported readonly
and you can use the ftp.kernel.org:/pub/linux template as
an example config setup

than you can do
ls -la /var/autofs/misc/debian.fq

but its probably easier to mirror the documentation locally than
to try to get it automounting if debian.org/documentation is not
exporting itself

c ya
alvin



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Hp 840c

[Willem-Jan Meijer]

Hello again,

I'm using Debian / KDE 2.2.2 at my desktop for 3 weeks now, and I like it 
very much, except that I can't print. What stuff / wich packages do I have to 
install to get my HP 840c printer at the parallel port working? It runs well 
in Caldera OpenLinux but I don't know how to get it work in Debian.

Kind regards,

Willem-Jan Meijer,
Netherlands


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Re: ppp

[Gee Law]

if i understand, i think what you want is

# modprobe ppp

gee.

On 2003.01.21 20:15 Matt wrote:

I'm lost with ppp, while trying to startisdnutils i get:
"Sorry - this system lacks PPP kernel support.", i've
next to own compiled the woody 2418bf24 and ppp is compiled
as module. lsmod shows hisax and isdn running but i cant
ad ippp0 in any way.
any hint which could point me to the track ?
Matt


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Re: Burning a CD without ide-scsi

[Aryan Ameri]

On Tuesday 21 January 2003 20:39, Phil Reynolds wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 04:26:13PM +, Rus Foster wrote:
> > Hi All,
> > I've always burnt CD's using ide-scsi and xcdroast. However I'm wondering
> > is there a way I can burn CD's onto my IDE burner without using SCSI
> > emulation?
>
> Not that I know of in Linux. Are you having problems with it or just
> looking for a change?

Well, it happens that I also have problems with ide-scsi
I used to burn CDs perfectly using this emulation on Mandrake and RedHat, but 
after I moved to debain, and enabled IDE SCSI emulation, my USB devices don't 
work (programs aren't able to detect USB devices), while it used they used to 
work before the emulation was enabled. I also wonder if there is a way to 
burn CDs without IDE SCSI emulation.
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Re: 486 kernel images

[Greg Madden]

On Tuesday 21 January 2003 07:29 am, machoamerica wrote:
> i'm looking through the kernel-image packages and i see packages for
> all flavors of intel/amd processors except the 486.  can i use either
> kernel-image-2.4.x-386 or kernel-image-2.4.x-586 or do i have to muck
> around with a kernel-source-2.4.x package?
>
> thanks,
> macho

You might consider using the 2.2.x series of kernel. There is so much in a 
2.4.x kernel source that won't apply to a 486. 
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