Re: unsubcribe hrozengarden@ebdeep.to

[Alberto Lohmann]

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This is not the first help you ask for, regarding this topic.
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Re: WAS: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related--NOW, I gave up and went back to Mandrake :-(

[Colin Watson]

On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 10:47:18AM +0200, Alaa The Great wrote:
> the RPM format itself seems to have all the features of deb,

It has most of them, although it's missing one or two. I'm reliably (I
think) informed that it doesn't have diversions, for instance.

The missing features probably wouldn't be hard to add if somebody wanted
to, though.

> what is missing is tools and a tradition of best practices.

Amen.

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Re: How do I do this in bash ??

[Thorsten Haude]

Hi,

* Dave Selby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-01-19 11:48]:
>I know 'date' gives me exactly what I want but I cant figure out how to get 
>tar to write a file with the value of date as its file name ...

Basically,
tar czf myFiles.`date`.tar.gz myfiles
though that gets you whitespaces in the file name. You should use
date(1) with a format string, have a look in date's manpage.


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Re: Mouse / X problems UPDATE

[Chris Owen]

Hey, thanks Kent that's great.
(I have been following the list, honest!  Guess I missed that post 
though...)
:-)

Chris


Kent West wrote:

Chris Owen wrote:


I have now found a solution for this mouse problem in X: it seems gpm 
was the problem.  After uninstalling gpm, the PS/2 mouse now works 
correctly in X.  If anyone can tell me why this is, or whether 
there's a workaround which lets me keep gpm, that would be 
interesting (although to be honest I'm not that bothered about 
needing gpm...).

Thanks
Chris



From a posting earlier in the day (subj: MOUSE won't function):

gpm is a mouse driver for the text-only virtual console. For example, 
if you are not running X, and you only have text-only virtual consoles 
(hereafter referred to as VTs, for Virtual Terminals), and you need a 
mouse in your VTs, then you'd need to be running gpm. Or even if you 
are running X, but you occasionally need to pop out to a VT and need a 
mouse while there, you'd need gpm running.

Now, if you have X running, X needs a mouse. It has its own mouse 
driver built-in. This mouse driver conflicts with gpm, and having gpm 
running as well as X can cause the mouse to behave erratically, etc. 
For example, the mouse might generate some events, such as "I've moved 
left", followed by "I've moved up". If both gpm and the X mouse driver 
are reading the mouse port, it may be that gpm reads the "left" event, 
removing that event from the incoming data stream, and then it comes 
X's turn to read the mouse events, and it reads "up", never getting a 
chance to read the "left" event because gpm "took" it. So the mouse 
behaviour in X was supposed to be left, then up, but turns out to be 
only up. Doh!

Thankfully, these two mouse drivers can be convinced to play nicely 
together. The way this is done is to tell gpm to not keep the incoming 
data to itself, but to repeat that incoming data, in a "raw" format. 
Both gpm and X normally read from the "incoming mouse data port" 
(whatever that is, perhaps /dev/psaux, perhaps /dev/ttyS0, etc). gpm 
can't repeat the data it reads back to that port, or next time it goes 
to read that port it'll just re-read what it read earlier, and 
loopity-loop. So instead it repeats the data to a special "virtual" 
port, called /dev/gpmdata. Then X needs to be configured to read its 
incoming mouse data, not from the normal port, but from the 
/dev/gpmdata "port". Voila! gpm and X now get along just dandy.

So, you have two options.

1) Remove gpm, and just get the mouse working in X

2) Configure gpm to repeat the raw data (run gpmconfig and answer the 
questions), and configure X to read its mouse data from /dev/gpmdata.







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Re: How do I do this in bash ??

[Johannes Zarl]

> #! /bin/sh
>
> # Backup entire 'myfiles/' directory, name it with the date.
>
> cd /usr/local/
> tar -czf /mnt/archive/autoarchive/date myfiles

man bash(1):

Command substitution allows the output of a command to replace the command 
name.  There are two forms:
  $(command)
   or
  `command`


So your command goes:
tar -czf /mnt/archive/autoarchive/`date` myfiles

greetings,
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Re: How do I do this in bash ??

[Michael Heironimus]

On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 10:48:43AM +, Dave Selby wrote:
> I am writting a weekly automated backup script, very simple .. tars a 
> directory called 'myfiles' to a second hard drive.
> 
> Works AOK except I want the name of the file written by tar to be the time 
> and date. So I get a list of tared dated backups
> 
> I know 'date' gives me exactly what I want but I cant figure out how to get 
> tar to write a file with the value of date as its file name ...
> 
> 
> #! /bin/sh
> 
> # Backup entire 'myfiles/' directory, name it with the date.
> 
> cd /usr/local/
> tar -czf /mnt/archive/autoarchive/date myfiles
> 
> 
> I put this in /etc/cron.weekly and I get a file called date !!???
> I have tried '' and "" all to no avail

What you want is backticks (`date`). Since date's default output isn't
very good as a filename you probably want to specify the output format.
I would use something like this:

tar czf /mnt/archive/autoarchive/`date '+%Y%m%d'`.tar.gz myfiles

which would give you a file named 20030119.tar.gz. The reason I use
year-month-day format is that the alphabetical sorting that ls does by
default will match the chronological order of the files.

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Re: Doing a mass downgrade

[Antonio Rodriguez]

Checking my system, I don't have any /etc/apt/preferences file. What 
script installs it? It seems to be a regular text file from what I read 
in this thread. I am planing to downgrade one of my boxes from sid to 
sarge, this seems to be the way to go, but I don't know the exact 
configuration of this mentioned "preference"
?

Dale Hair wrote:

On Sat, 2003-01-18 at 13:04, Lloyd Zusman wrote:
 

Dale Hair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

   

On Sat, 2003-01-18 at 12:03, Lloyd Zusman wrote:
 

Dale Hair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

   

[ ... ]

Giving testing a priority of 1001 will downgrade to testing.
 

Thank you.  I just did that.  And now, which `apt-get' or `aptitude'
command(s) should I invoke to perform this downgrade?

[ ... ]
   

apt-get dist-upgrade
 

I did this, but nothing happened.  The command session is shown below.
I know that a number of unstable packages had been previously installed.

Any ideas?

Thanks.

# apt-get dist-upgrade
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Calculating Upgrade... Done
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0  not upgraded.


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If your /etc/apt/preferences has

Package: *
Pin: release a=testing
Pin-Priority: 1001

and unstable with a priority lower than 1000, then you must not have any
packages from unstable.

 




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Re: Can't start X with Nvidia

[ajlewis2]

In linux.debian.user, you wrote:
> 
> When I modprobe NVdriver, I get the following message:
> 
>   Warning: loading /lib/modules/2.4.20/kernel/drivers/video/NVdriver will
>   taint the kernel: non-GPL license - NVIDIA
> See http://www.tux.org/lkml/#export-tainted for information about
> tainted modules
> nvidia: loading NVIDIA Linux x86 NVdriver Kernel Module  1.0-3123  Tue
> Aug 27 15:56:48 PDT 2002
> Module NVdriver loaded, with warnings

 
>   Section "Device"
> Identifier"Nvidia"
> Driver"nvidia"
> VideoRam  32768
>   EndSection



I apologize for the earlier post to the newsgroup that was just a copy of
the original post.  Hit the wrong button. This one is going to the list and
will make its way to the newsgroup too. 

My module is called nvidia and not NVdriver.  I think the problem is that
you are loading a module called NVdriver and you have nvidia listed as the
driver in the X config file.  Maybe try changing the Driver in X to NVdriver
to see if that works.  Or I guess you could put an alias in so that nvidia
would be the same as NVdriver.

Anita


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Re: WAS: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related--NOW, I gave upand went back to Mandrake :-(

[Alaa The Great]

On Sun, 19 Jan 2003 11:18:35 +
Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 10:47:18AM +0200, Alaa The Great wrote:
> > the RPM format itself seems to have all the features of deb,
> 
> It has most of them, although it's missing one or two. I'm reliably
> (I think) informed that it doesn't have diversions, for instance.

diversion info is stored in the deb package??

cheers,
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Re: WAS: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related--NOW, I gave upand went back to Mandrake :-(

[Ron Johnson]

On Sun, 2003-01-19 at 05:00, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 03:44:24AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > In other words, KDE is like Windows, because KDE is imitating 
> > Windows, and not vice versa.
> 
> No, KDE is like CDE, not like Windows if we're going to make an
> accurate comparison.

I always wondered if there was a linkage there.
However, if at one time it was like CDE, it's not anymore.  It looks
a *lot* like Windows to me...

> Windows is fairly unique in it's lossage.

What do you mean "lossage" in this context?  Loss of stability,
coherence (there's a huge API cruft under there), or something
else?

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Re: WAS: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related--NOW, I gave up and went back to Mandrake :-(

[Colin Watson]

On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 01:37:30PM +0200, Alaa The Great wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Jan 2003 11:18:35 +
> Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 10:47:18AM +0200, Alaa The Great wrote:
> > > the RPM format itself seems to have all the features of deb,
> > 
> > It has most of them, although it's missing one or two. I'm reliably
> > (I think) informed that it doesn't have diversions, for instance.
> 
> diversion info is stored in the deb package??

No (unless you count the maintainer scripts), but diversions require
support from the package manager. There's no point diverting a file off
somewhere else if the package manager is just going to stomp on it at
the next upgrade.

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Unidentified subject!

[Frédéric Poulet]

Yi,

I would like install the last version of debian under promise PDC20276 but i can't do 
it !!
I need help !

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Re: WAS: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related--NOW, I gave up and went back to Mandrake :-(

[Paul Johnson]

On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 05:40:32AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > No, KDE is like CDE, not like Windows if we're going to make an
> > accurate comparison.
> 
> I always wondered if there was a linkage there.
> However, if at one time it was like CDE, it's not anymore.  It looks
> a *lot* like Windows to me...

Well, so does CDE in that case.
http://www.plig.org/xwinman/screenshots/dtwm.gif

Note the striking resemblence between the panel in KDE and CDE.  Note
the clearly MS-ish title and window bars.  kwin looks like afterstep
trying to be Explorer to me.

> > Windows is fairly unique in it's lossage.
> 
> What do you mean "lossage" in this context?  Loss of stability,
> coherence (there's a huge API cruft under there), or something
> else?

Yes.

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Re: problem with tv card

[Ron Johnson]

On Fri, 2003-01-17 at 06:18, Pigeon wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 08, 2003 at 09:44:27AM -0500, Mike Dresser wrote:
> > On 8 Jan 2003, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > 
> > > You have a PC dedicated to displaying TV
> > 
> > Actually, a lot of people do.
> > 
> > They're called TiVo's and ReplayTv's and Dishplayers and stuff like that
> > 
> > :)
> 
> That's nothing. I have a 600MHz/128Mb PC, dedicated to
> running a DOS program that copies everything it receives on COM2 to
> COM3, and vice versa.

Umm, couldn't you pull a 286 out of the trash to do that, and use
the 600MHz PC for something a bit more worthy of all those MIPS?

Don't know how big your DOS program is, but I'd be *shocked* if
it wouldn't fit on a single floppy.  Would then not need a HDD, 
CD-ROM drive, etc, etc...

Is that PC running DOS inside a Linux dosemu window, or standalone
DOS?

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Re: gnome2 in sid

[Robin Putters]

On Sun, 2003-01-19 at 12:01, Clemens Resanka wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I can't get gnome2 to work in sid.
> 
> I say
>  aptitude update
>  aptitude install gnome
> 
> aptitude complains about missing libgnomeprint2-0 and
> libgnomeprintui-0.
> Unfortunately these packages do not exist!
> 

This is probably due to the migration to Gnome2.2.
Try this: http://snapshot.debian.net/archive/
Or wait a couple of days.

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debian-newbe problems w. ssh & .profile

[Oliver]

Hi folks,
I just installed debian, and that´s why I installed debian, makes me 
trouble now;) !

I have to setup ssh, to use it with the windows TTSSH client. This only 
understands
ssh < 1.5, so I decided to use protocol 1. Also I have an old server, which 
also understands
P1.
I changed Protocol (etc/ssh/sshd_config) to 1,2 and restarted sshd.
I got the message ...: sshd Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key
Disabling protocol version1
Ok, lets make a key 'ssh-keygen' but now the problem starts.
It just shows me a lot of options :-X
Could anybody point me how to make a protocol 1 key ?


I´d like to set up '.profile' to have some commands be aliased.
so I made a .profile in the /root directory. But it will not be read, or
maybe not interpreted correct when I log in as root.
BTW I would like to have a .profile for every user on the system.
Can one also point me in the right direction ?

Thanks In advance
Oliver


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Re: debian-newbe problems w. ssh & .profile

[Colin Watson]

On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 01:50:52PM +0100, Oliver wrote:
> I have to setup ssh, to use it with the windows TTSSH client. This only 
> understands
> ssh < 1.5, so I decided to use protocol 1. Also I have an old server, which 
> also understands
> P1.
> I changed Protocol (etc/ssh/sshd_config) to 1,2 and restarted sshd.
> I got the message ...: sshd Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key
> Disabling protocol version1
> Ok, lets make a key 'ssh-keygen' but now the problem starts.
> It just shows me a lot of options :-X
> Could anybody point me how to make a protocol 1 key ?

'ssh-keygen -t rsa1'

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Re: dependency problems

[Derrick 'dman' Hudson]

On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 12:46:11AM +, Dave Selby wrote:
| I run debian woody, This same driver works flawlessly on redhat 7.2,
| If I do the following on debian, it actually works but I have persistent 
| dependency issues which I cannot solve ??
| 
| My debian is standard, I have upgraded the kernel to 2.4.19, apart from that 
| everything is standard.
| 
| Any ideas ???

| debian:/usr/local/v92modem/Intel-v92ham-451# make ham
|Module precompile check
|Current running kernel is: 2.4.19
|/lib/modules...   autoconf.h exists
| diff: /boot/vmlinuz.autoconf.h: No such file or directory
|autoconf.h matches running kernel
| diff: /boot/vmlinuz.version.h: No such file or directory
|version.h matches running kernel

Try installing the kernel-headers-2.4.19 package or the
kernel-source-2.4.19 package.  You're clearly missing some files the
source to the driver needs for compilation.

HTH,
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Pump and Kernel-2.4.20?

[Thomas H. George,,,]

My DSL connection with iface eth0 inet dhcp works fine but every time I 
reboot the system I have to run pump to set the gateway.  Something I 
read seemed to indicate that pump was needed with kernel-2.2.? but not 
with kernel-2.4.18.

My system is Woody with kernel-2.4.18 so perhaps there is still 
something missing in my setup?  I would like the gateway set automaticly 
on rebooting.


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Re: Unidentified subject!

[Craig Genner]

Thanks for telling us you can't install debian 'under promise PDC20276'.
Prehaps you could tell us why you can't (error messages, when it fails etc).
Only then can some one try and help you.
Craig


On Sunday 19 Jan 2003 12:06 pm, Frédéric Poulet wrote:
> Yi,
>
> I would like install the last version of debian under promise PDC20276 but
> i can't do it !! I need help !
>
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Re: debian-newbe problems w. ssh & .profile

[B.]

Hej Oliver!


I'm a newbie in Debian, too, not in LinuX in general...

At 13:50 19.01.2003 +0100, you wrote:

Hi folks,
I just installed debian, and that´s why I installed debian, makes me 
trouble now;) !

I have to setup ssh, to use it with the windows TTSSH client. This only 
understands
ssh < 1.5, so I decided to use protocol 1. Also I have an old server, 
which also understands
P1.
I changed Protocol (etc/ssh/sshd_config) to 1,2 and restarted sshd.
I got the message ...: sshd Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key
Disabling protocol version1
Ok, lets make a key 'ssh-keygen' but now the problem starts.
It just shows me a lot of options :-X
Could anybody point me how to make a protocol 1 key ?

I run a sshd on my LinuX-DSL-Router. There I simply use makekey to generate 
a collection of keys!
It doesnt work on my Debian this way.



I´d like to set up '.profile' to have some commands be aliased.
so I made a .profile in the /root directory. But it will not be read, or
maybe not interpreted correct when I log in as root.
BTW I would like to have a .profile for every user on the system.
Can one also point me in the right direction ?


Find out which shell you run (typically bash)!
Then edit in every users directory the .bashrc (.rc) for 
inserting aliases!

Boris



Thanks In advance
Oliver


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KDE, CDE & MS Windows

[Ron Johnson]

On Sun, 2003-01-19 at 06:12, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 05:40:32AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > > No, KDE is like CDE, not like Windows if we're going to make an
> > > accurate comparison.
> > 
> > I always wondered if there was a linkage there.
> > However, if at one time it was like CDE, it's not anymore.  It looks
> > a *lot* like Windows to me...
> 
> Well, so does CDE in that case.
> http://www.plig.org/xwinman/screenshots/dtwm.gif
> 
> Note the striking resemblence between the panel in KDE and CDE.  Note
> the clearly MS-ish title and window bars.  kwin looks like afterstep
> trying to be Explorer to me.

I dunno.  With themes, though, how can you really say one thing that
a particular wm looks like anymore.  Just click on a button in a config
window, and poof, your windows look like MacOS, OSX, OS/2, Win95, XP,
CDE, etc, etc.

Now for something that looks like CDE, xfwm/xfce is it...

> > > Windows is fairly unique in it's lossage.
> > 
> > What do you mean "lossage" in this context?  Loss of stability,
> > coherence (there's a huge API cruft under there), or something
> > else?
>
> Yes.

Gotta agree with you there!
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Drivers for SCSI, IEEE 1394 and RAID.

[Göran Emilsson]

Hi,

 

I am thinking of switching OS to Linux and Debian. The problem is that I have some Hardware that I
don’t have drivers for.

 

For now I have this and need drivers for them:

 


 Adaptec
 AHA-2940U2/U2W PCI SCSI Controller 
 Adaptec
 ATA RAID 1200A PCI IDE Controller 
 Firewire, IEEE 1394, Maxtor 5000XT
 discs 


 

Does anyone knows were to find drivers for this Hardware or
is this supported by Debian??

 

Yours Sincerely Göran Emilsson

 

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Re: WAS: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related--NOW, I gave upand went back to Mandrake :-(

[Alaa The Great]

On Sun, 19 Jan 2003 11:55:49 +
Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> No (unless you count the maintainer scripts), but diversions require
> support from the package manager. There's no point diverting a file
> off somewhere else if the package manager is just going to stomp on
> it at the next upgrade.

so its as I said a problem with the tools not the package format.

rpm tools tend to be stupid though, for instance Mandrake RPMs have a
suggests field but none of the rpm tools bother to even read the
field.

cheers,
Alaa
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Problem: kde and the HP DeskJet 940c printer

[Thomas H. George,,,]

I just stared using kde and cannot set up my HP DeskJet 940c printer.

I have tried to post a question to a kde mailing list but there is such 
a profusion of kde mailing lists I'm not sure where my message went and 
where to find the answer.

For the record, the printer works fine from a console using CUPS and one 
of the CUPS generic DeskJet drivers.  It wont work at all with the CUPS 
HP_DeskJet_900_Series driver


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Re: Doing a mass downgrade

[Dale Hair]

On Sun, 2003-01-19 at 05:30, Antonio Rodriguez wrote:
> Checking my system, I don't have any /etc/apt/preferences file. What 
> script installs it? It seems to be a regular text file from what I read 
> in this thread. I am planing to downgrade one of my boxes from sid to 
> sarge, this seems to be the way to go, but I don't know the exact 
> configuration of this mentioned "preference"
> ?

You will have to create it yourself, it should look like this for
downgrading to testing.  Man apt_preferences for a better understanding.

Package: *
Pin: release a=testing
Pin-Priority: 1001

Package: *
Pin: release a=unstable
Pin-Priority: 550

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Re: Doing a mass downgrade

[Dale Hair]

On Sat, 2003-01-18 at 22:46, Lloyd Zusman wrote:

> > If your /etc/apt/preferences has
> >
> > Package: *
> > Pin: release a=testing
> > Pin-Priority: 1001
> >
> > and unstable with a priority lower than 1000, then you must not have any
> > packages from unstable.
> 
> Well then, I guess I must have just gotten lucky since I started
> downloading with 'unstable' having the highest priority, such that my
> only upgrades happened to come from the 'stable' or 'testing'
> categories.
> 
> Thanks for your help.
> 
> -- 
>  Lloyd Zusman
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

You must have stopped the upgrade before all the packages were
downloaded and before the installation began.  You probably have some
packages from unstable in /var/cache/apt/archives.

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Re: Can't start X with Nvidia

[Ian D. Stewart]

On Sunday 19 January 2003 06:34, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>
> My module is called nvidia and not NVdriver.  I think the problem is that
> you are loading a module called NVdriver and you have nvidia listed as the
> driver in the X config file.  Maybe try changing the Driver in X to
> NVdriver to see if that works.  Or I guess you could put an alias in so
> that nvidia would be the same as NVdriver.

NVDriver is the linux kernel module.  nvidia is the X display driver.


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anacron/run-parts failing with defunct processes

[W Klink]

Recently, anacron has been hanging on one of my systems.  It first
happened over a month ago and I didn't notice until 'locate' warned me
the database was over 7 days old and I saw 'run-parts /etc/cron.daily'
was hung. I killed anacron and ran reran by hand with no problems.
The next day, anacron hung again.  That night I needed to power the
machine off (for a planned power outage at the office) and after the
machine was brought back up it stopped having the problem... until now.

On Friday, cron.daily hung again and has been hanging every day since.

For example, I manually ran 'anacron -n -d -f'.  It seemed to take a
long time on dlocate, so I found the anacron PID (2) and did:

# pstree -p|grep 2
 | | 
-sshd(20942)---bash(20947)---anacron(2)---run-parts(21112)---dlocate(21182)

I then ran 'ps axu|grep 21182' and saw:

root 21182  0.0  0.0 00 pts/11   ZN   07:30   0:00 [dlocate 
]

I then tried the following:

# cd /etc/cron.daily
# run-parts --verbose --report .
run-parts: executing ./0anacron
run-parts: executing ./acct

It didn't appear to be doing anything, so from another window, I ran:

# ps axu|grep acct
root 22429  0.0  0.0 00 pts/11   Z08:13   0:00 [acct 
]

Running manually has hung at exim, dlocate, acct and htdig.  At other
times, At other times, I've been able to execute 'run-parts' get
through everything, but usually it dies somewhere along to way.

The system is a dual Pentium II machine running Debian Woody with a
2.4.18 kernel, 255M RAM.


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Re: Drivers for SCSI, IEEE 1394 and RAID.

[Eduard Bloch]

#include 
* Göran Emilsson [Sun, Jan 19 2003, 02:14:36PM]:

> I am thinking of switching OS to Linux and Debian. The problem is that I
> have some Hardware that I don’t have drivers for.

Did you ever look on the sites of particular projects or Dejanews? Does
not look so.

> For now I have this and need drivers for them:
>  
> 1.Adaptec AHA-2940U2/U2W PCI SCSI Controller 

What's the problem?

> 2.Adaptec ATA RAID 1200A PCI IDE Controller 

What's the problem? You may need an additional module from the Preload
disk (see Woody errata) if you want to have the root-fs accessed through
this controller.

> 3.Firewire, IEEE 1394, Maxtor 5000XT discs 

What's the problem?

Gruss/Regards,
Eduard.
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Re: WAS: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related--NOW, I gave up and went back to Mandrake :-(

[Jamin W. Collins]

On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 04:12:30AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 05:40:32AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> 
> > I always wondered if there was a linkage there.  However, if at one
> > time it was like CDE, it's not anymore.  It looks a *lot* like
> > Windows to me...
> 
> Well, so does CDE in that case.
> http://www.plig.org/xwinman/screenshots/dtwm.gif

Might just be me, but that screenshot bears little resemblance to MS
Windows.  That is unless you are referring to the pre Windows 9x
versions.  Even then it has little resemblance to the default MS
Windows.

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AGAINdebian-newbe problems w. ssh

[Oliver]

At 19.01.2003  13:05, you wrote:

On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 01:50:52PM +0100, Oliver wrote:
> I have to setup ssh, to use it with the windows TTSSH client. This only
> understands
> ssh < 1.5, so I decided to use protocol 1. Also I have an old server, 
which
> also understands
> P1.
> I changed Protocol (etc/ssh/sshd_config) to 1,2 and restarted sshd.
> I got the message ...: sshd Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key
> Disabling protocol version1
> Ok, lets make a key 'ssh-keygen' but now the problem starts.
> It just shows me a lot of options :-X
> Could anybody point me how to make a protocol 1 key ?

'ssh-keygen -t rsa1'

Cheers,

Thanks, I got my key, but now sshd is nagging!

When I try to load /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key
a. if it is set to r-- --- --- Could not load .. host_key
b. if it is set to rw- --- --- Could not load .. host_key
b. if it is set to rw- r-- ---  It says that the permissions are too open.
but does not load it anyway ???

TIA Oliver



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Re: Can't start X with Nvidia

[Cam Ellison]

* Sridhar M.A. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> I just got a new motherboard and cpu: asus a7n266-vm with amd xp 1800. I
> currently having about 128MiB of DDRAM. In the bios I have set the agp
> ram to 32MiB. The machine is currently running sarge.
> 
>
I have the same board, and ran into problems with it.  If you want,
you could run startx with a verbose setting, and send me the output
backchannel.  One thing I am aware of is that you should _not_ have
agpgart compiled into the kernel.

You need also to be certain that you have the right driver.  If you
have libglx.a in /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions, you need to move
it or rename it -- there should be a file named libglx.so in that
directory. 

Cheers

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Re: AGAINdebian-newbe problems w. ssh

[Colin Watson]

On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 04:09:49PM +0100, Oliver wrote:
> At 19.01.2003  13:05, you wrote:
> >'ssh-keygen -t rsa1'
> 
> Thanks, I got my key, but now sshd is nagging!
> 
> When I try to load /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key
> a. if it is set to r-- --- --- Could not load .. host_key
> b. if it is set to rw- --- --- Could not load .. host_key
> b. if it is set to rw- r-- ---  It says that the permissions are too open.
> but does not load it anyway ???

-rw--- owned by user root and group root is the correct set of
permissions. Can you give me a transcript of exactly what you're doing
and what you see?

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Passwordless SSH still asks for password when remote usernamediffers

[Jean-Marc V. Liotier]

Here is what I did :

# Local end :
cd ~/.ssh
# Enter an empty password when prompted by the following command
ssh-keygen -t dsa -f id_dsa
scp id_dsa.pub remote.end.net:~/.ssh
# Repeat last command for all remote ends

# Remote ends
cd ~/.ssh
touch authorized_keys2
cat id_dsa.pub >> authorized_keys2
chmod 640 authorized_keys2
rm -f id_dsa.pub

# Local end :
ssh remote.end.net
# Look ma, no password !

Works great between various hosts where I have the same username. But
when I want to connect to a host where my username is different (ssh -l
differentusername other.remote.end.net) I am still asked for a password.
I log on fine, but it is annoying to be unable to enjoy passwordless
SSH, SCP and Unison just because I could not get an account with my
usual username.

Can anybody point me toward a solution ?





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kill with regex?

[Hugh Saunders]

ps x gives a list of xine's which i would like to kill

1609 ?S  0:01 xine /dev/hdc
1610 ?S  0:00 xine /dev/hdc
1618 ?S  0:00 xine /dev/hdc
1619 ?S  0:00 xine /dev/hdc
1620 ?S  0:00 xine /dev/hdc

tried
kill 16[1234567890]* 

which returned
bash: kill: 16[1234567890]*: no such pid

1) is the regexp correct to match the pids of the processes?
2) how do i get kill or bash to realise its an expression?

thanks

hugh


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silent Kismet

[Hugh Saunders]

hello, have been having problems getting kismet to play audio -this
would be usefull so can have laptop closed  and listen with
headphones for available networks [ie walking through town]

in my kismet.conf i have the lines:
sound=true
# Path to sound player
soundplay=/usr/bin/wavp
# Optional parameters to pass to the player
# soundopts=--volume=.3
# New network found
sound_new=/usr/local/share/kismet/wav/new_network.wav
# Network traffic sound
sound_traffic=/usr/local/share/kismet/wav/traffic.wav
# Network junk traffic found
sound_junktraffic=/usr/local/share/kismet/wav/junk_traffic.wav

if i run /usr/bin/wavp /usr/local/share/kismet/wav/new_network.wav 
then i get sound but the kismet program is silent, any ideas?

thanks

hugh
-who is not a wepcracker just would like to be able to find public
WiFi networks [faster than 9600 from mob!]


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Re: Ethernet Adapter Configuration

[Shyamal Prasad]

"Kevin" == Kevin Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Kevin> Anybody have an answer for this one?  Sorry for being
Kevin> persistence, just can't work it out.

Did you miss 

http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2003/debian-user-200301/msg03055.html

or did it just not work out?

Cheers!
Shyamal


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Re: Passwordless SSH still asks for password when remote username differs

[Colin Watson]

On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 04:34:44PM +0100, Jean-Marc V. Liotier wrote:
> Here is what I did :
> 
> # Local end :
> cd ~/.ssh
> # Enter an empty password when prompted by the following command
> ssh-keygen -t dsa -f id_dsa
> scp id_dsa.pub remote.end.net:~/.ssh
> # Repeat last command for all remote ends
> 
> # Remote ends
> cd ~/.ssh
> touch authorized_keys2
> cat id_dsa.pub >> authorized_keys2
> chmod 640 authorized_keys2
> rm -f id_dsa.pub

Fine, although you can just use ssh-copy-id.

> Works great between various hosts where I have the same username. But
> when I want to connect to a host where my username is different (ssh -l
> differentusername other.remote.end.net) I am still asked for a password.

Please show the output of 'ssh -vvv -l differentusername
other.remote.end.net'. It works for me ...

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installazione debian

[Errore69]

Ciao! avrei bisogno di un'aiuto per l'installazione 
di debian.
Sto installando la 3.0, e sono riuscito a 
scavalcare la prima parte dell'installazione ma quando riavvio e parte il 
sistema, mi chiede di mettere l'ora legale e la città, fin qui tutto bene!!! ma 
quando arrivo a immettere la password di root, la mia tastiera non scrive 
niente, funziona soltanto il tasto invio, e le freccie.Ma durante 
l'installazione da cd funzionava perfettamente, ho provato a installare diverse 
configurazioni ma con risultato sempre uguale tu mi sapresti aiutare per 
favore.. :-)  ??
ciao federico

Re: Compiler error: C compiler cannot create executables

[Achton N. Netherclift]

At 17:45 18-01-2003 -0500, Stephen Gran wrote:


Are you, by any chance, running a mixture of testing and unstable?  It
seems like you have sources for one version, and another version
installed.  Explicitly tell apt which version you want to install (or
download and dpkg -i the right version).  man apt-get for details -
look for the -t switch, but do some general reading while you're there -
there's a lot of useful stuff in it.


I can't completely rule out that there may be packages from testing
installed, but I have not fiddled with the compiler package at other
times than during install.

This is what I have tried:

===
Isildur:/home/public/incoming# apt-get install libc6-dev/stable
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Selected version 2.2.5-11.2 (Debian:3.0r1a/stable, 
Debian-Security:3.0/stable) for libc6-dev
Sorry, libc6-dev is already the newest version.
You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:
Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
  libc6-dev: Depends: libc6 (= 2.2.5-11.2) but 2.3.1-9 is to be installed
E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or 
specify a solution).
===

Oh, so let's do what it says:

===
Isildur:/home/public/incoming# apt-get -f install
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Correcting dependencies... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  libc6-dev
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0  not upgraded.
1 packages not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 11.9MB will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n]
(Reading database ... 23430 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing libc6-dev ...
Isildur:/home/public/incoming#
===

Good, the queued packages were removed.
So now the dependency problem should be corrected, right? Let's try the 
install again:

===
Isildur:/home/public/incoming# apt-get install libc6-dev/stable
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Selected version 2.2.5-11.2 (Debian:3.0r1a/stable, 
Debian-Security:3.0/stable) for libc6-dev
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.

Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
that package should be filed.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
  libc6-dev: Depends: libc6 (= 2.2.5-11.2) but 2.3.1-9 is to be installed
Isildur:/home/public/incoming#
===

Absolutely no change there. What about dpkg?

===
Isildur:/home/public/incoming# dpkg -i libc6-dev_2.2.5-11.2_i386.deb
Selecting previously deselected package libc6-dev.
(Reading database ... 22250 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking libc6-dev (from libc6-dev_2.2.5-11.2_i386.deb) ...
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of libc6-dev:
 libc6-dev depends on libc6 (= 2.2.5-11.2); however:
  Version of libc6 on system is 2.3.1-9.
dpkg: error processing libc6-dev (--install):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
Errors were encountered while processing:
 libc6-dev
===

Uh-oh ..

I have libc6 2.3.1-9 on my system. Thats from the unstable dist...
how the h*ck? Well, now what? Can I downgrade libc6 somehow?
Or can I somehow get the thing to allow me to compile programs with
the current libc6 library? (And will they work?)

/geddeth


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Re: kill with regex?

[Colin Watson]

On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 03:40:29PM +, Hugh Saunders wrote:
> ps x gives a list of xine's which i would like to kill
> 
> 1609 ?S  0:01 xine /dev/hdc
> 1610 ?S  0:00 xine /dev/hdc
> 1618 ?S  0:00 xine /dev/hdc
> 1619 ?S  0:00 xine /dev/hdc
> 1620 ?S  0:00 xine /dev/hdc
> 
> tried
> kill 16[1234567890]* 
> 
> which returned
> bash: kill: 16[1234567890]*: no such pid
> 
> 1) is the regexp correct to match the pids of the processes?

bash doesn't understand regexps in general, it understands shell
wildcards. The type you're trying to use expand over filenames, not
process ids; you cannot kill processes by wildcard.

You could use 'kill 16{09,10,18,19,20}', although that's not exactly
much of an improvement. Better would be:

  ps hx -o pid,cmd | sed -e 's/^ *//; s/ .*//'

... see if the output looks sensible, then:

  kill `ps hx -o pid,cmd | sed -e 's/^ *//; s/ .*//'`

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Re: kill with regex?

[Philipp Gruemmer]

Hugh Saunders wrote:

> ps x gives a list of xine's which i would like to kill
> [...snip...]
> 2) how do i get kill or bash to realise its an expression?

Couldn't you simply use 'killall xine'?
I don't see any need of using wildards...

HTH

Greetings, Philipp


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Re: AGAINdebian-newbe problems w. ssh

[Colin Watson]

[I would prefer it if you kept the conversation on the list, so that
other people can help. Thanks.]

On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 05:10:33PM +0100, Oliver wrote:
> At 19.01.2003  15:29, you wrote:
> >On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 04:09:49PM +0100, Oliver wrote:
> >> When I try to load /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key
> >> a. if it is set to r-- --- --- Could not load .. host_key
> >> b. if it is set to rw- --- --- Could not load .. host_key
> >> b. if it is set to rw- r-- ---  It says that the permissions are too 
> >> open.
> >> but does not load it anyway ???
> >
> >-rw--- owned by user root and group root is the correct set of
> >permissions. Can you give me a transcript of exactly what you're doing
> >and what you see?
> 
> What I did:
[...]
> Then I stopped sshd -> /etc/init.d/ssh stop
> and restarted it  /etc/init.d/ssh start
> 
> then there came the messages I mentioned earlier.

I would like to see *the exact messages*. Cut-and-paste from a terminal
window would be ideal. Not summaries; I can't search through the source
code for summaries. Thank you.

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Re: Can't start X with Nvidia

[Dave W]

On Sun, 2003-01-19 at 03:56, Ian D. Stewart wrote:
> NVDriver is the linux kernel module.  nvidia is the X display driver.
> 
I might be wrong (sure wouldn't be the first time) but I believe that 
starting with 4191, the module is called nvidia.  Prior to 4191 the 
module was called NVdriver.  I had a heck of a time getting 4191 to 
work after switching from 3123 because of the module name change.

Running 4191 I show:

# lsmod
Module  Size  Used byTainted: P  
nvidia   1466944  10 

and I'm pretty sure it used to say NVdriver there.

Please, correct me if I'm wrong.  Perhaps I'm confusing the driver
and the module.  But there was definitely a change with the latest
version of the commercial nvidia driver and I definitely went through
h*ll getting it to work.  Ultimately, at least in my case, the problem
was that on my box that ran the newest version, I had in /etc/modules
"load nvidia" and on another box running an older version "load 
NVdriver."
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dependancy not found (apt-get)

[Jor-el]

Hi,

I am trying to use my apt preferences setup to install "straw"
from unstable onto my stable system. Here is what I get :

trillian:/etc/apt# apt-get install -t unstable straw python-gnome2
python2.2-gnome2 libnautilus2-2
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
  libnautilus2-2: Depends: libgnome-desktop-0 (>= 2.0.3) but it is not
installable
E: Sorry, broken packages
trillian:/etc/apt# apt-get install -t unstable straw python-gnome2
python2.2-gnome2 libnautilus2-2 libgnome-desktop-0
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Package libgnome-desktop-0 has no available version, but exists in the
database.
This typically means that the package was mentioned in a dependency and
never uploaded, has been obsoleted or is not available with the contents
of sources.list
E: Package libgnome-desktop-0 has no installation candidate

(1) What does this mean and (2) Is there hope for me?

Thanks,
Jor-el


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Re: kill with regex?

[Philipp Gruemmer]

Hugh Saunders wrote:

> ps x gives a list of xine's which i would like to kill
[...snip...]
> 2) how do i get kill or bash to realise its an expression?

Is there any reason not to use 'killall xine'?
That's how I do it ususally...

HTH

Greetings, Philipp


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Re: Can't start X with Nvidia [solved]

[Sridhar M.A.]

On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 03:56:18AM -0500, Ian D. Stewart wrote:
   > On Sunday 19 January 2003 06:34, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   > >
   > > My module is called nvidia and not NVdriver.  I think the problem
   > > is that you are loading a module called NVdriver and you have
   > > nvidia listed as the driver in the X config file.  Maybe try
   > > changing the Driver in X to NVdriver to see if that works.  Or I
   > > guess you could put an alias in so that nvidia would be the same
   > > as NVdriver.
   > 
   > NVDriver is the linux kernel module.  nvidia is the X display driver.
   > 
This was the case in 1.0.3123 version of nvidia drivers. As of 1.0.4191,
both of them are nvidia. 

In case anyone has similar problems, the latest version solved my
problem. Just downloaded the 1.0.4191 tgz's, did a make and make
install. X started just fine. Finally, I could play tuxracer :-D

Regards,

-- 
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The reason that every major university maintains a department of
mathematics is that it's cheaper than institutionalizing all those people.


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kernel-package problems

[A. Loonstra]

Well this thing really blew my spare Sunday... :(

I'm trying to create a debian kernel package using make-kpkg.

I can compile the kernel without using the debian tool. But since I like 
the package system I wanted to create a package of my custom kernel.

But I'm not able to do so. I constantly get the message:

make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.20'
/usr/bin/make -f ./debian/rules dummy_do_dep
Use of uninitialized value in pattern match (m//) at
/usr/share/kernel-package/kpkg-vercheck line 76 (#1)
(W uninitialized) An undefined value was used as if it were already
defined.  It was interpreted as a "" or a 0, but maybe it was a 
mistake.
To suppress this warning assign a defined value to your variables.

To help you figure out what was undefined, perl tells you what 
operation
you used the undefined value in.  Note, however, that perl 
optimizes your
program and the operation displayed in the warning may not necessarily
appear literally in your program.  For example, "that $foo" is
usually optimized into "that " . $foo, and the warning will refer to
the concatenation (.) operator, even though there is no . in your
program.

Use of uninitialized value in pattern match (m//) at
/usr/share/kernel-package/kpkg-vercheck line 108 (#1)
Use of uninitialized value in pattern match (m//) at
/usr/share/kernel-package/kpkg-vercheck line 152 (#1)
Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at
/usr/share/kernel-package/kpkg-vercheck line 164 (#1)
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.20'
make[1]: *** No rule to make target `dummy_do_dep'.  Stop.
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.20'
make: *** [stamp-kernel-configure] Error 2

i read the README but it doens't help. I'm now redeeming my RPM time. 
Can anyone help me. I used to build kernelpackages on potato with no 
problem (using unstable now).

Arnaud.



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user group

[Mike Thompson]

I want to make some non-shell accounts and there is a group called user
in /etc/group.  Is this group used for this purpose?

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Re: Passwordless SSH still asks for password when remote usernamediffers

[Jean-Marc V. Liotier]

On Sun, 2003-01-19 at 16:54, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 04:34:44PM +0100, Jean-Marc V. Liotier wrote:
>
> Please show the output of 'ssh -vvv -l differentusername
> other.remote.end.net'. It works for me ...

Actually, only one remote host exhibits the behavior. Other hosts work
fine, even across platforms (Irix and Debian). The culprit is a Debian
host. And the refusal to log me on without asking for a password is
independent of the username. So my initial question was completely
off... Apologies for the false trail.

So I am guessing this is a wrongly configured option in /etc/sshd_config
on the remote host. Maybe it refuses the public key authentication, or
the keys are wrong... I went through the /etc/ssh/sshd_config but I
don't quite understand it enough to find what could be wrong. If anyone
has a clue, it is welcome.

Kisangani% ssh -vvv [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OpenSSH_3.5p1 Debian 1:3.5p1-4.1, SSH protocols 1.5/2.0, OpenSSL
0x0090700f
debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config
debug1: Applying options for *
debug1: Rhosts Authentication disabled, originating port will not be
trusted.
debug1: ssh_connect: needpriv 0
debug1: Connecting to tethys.jipo.org [194.206.11.154] port 22.
debug1: Connection established.
debug1: identity file /home/jim/.ssh/identity type -1
debug1: identity file /home/jim/.ssh/id_rsa type -1
debug3: Not a RSA1 key file /home/jim/.ssh/id_dsa.
debug2: key_type_from_name: unknown key type '-BEGIN'
debug3: key_read: no key found
debug3: key_read: no space
debug3: key_read: no space
debug3: key_read: no space
debug3: key_read: no space
debug3: key_read: no space
debug3: key_read: no space
debug3: key_read: no space
debug3: key_read: no space
debug3: key_read: no space
debug3: key_read: no space
debug2: key_type_from_name: unknown key type '-END'
debug3: key_read: no key found
debug1: identity file /home/jim/.ssh/id_dsa type -1
debug1: Remote protocol version 1.99, remote software version
OpenSSH_3.4p1 Debian 1:3.4p1-1
debug1: match: OpenSSH_3.4p1 Debian 1:3.4p1-1 pat OpenSSH*
debug1: Enabling compatibility mode for protocol 2.0
debug1: Local version string SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_3.5p1 Debian 1:3.5p1-4.1
debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT sent
debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT received
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit:
diffie-hellman-group-exchange-sha1,diffie-hellman-group1-sha1
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: ssh-rsa,ssh-dss
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit:
aes128-cbc,3des-cbc,blowfish-cbc,cast128-cbc,arcfour,aes192-cbc,aes256-cbc,[EMAIL PROTECTED]
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit:
aes128-cbc,3des-cbc,blowfish-cbc,cast128-cbc,arcfour,aes192-cbc,aes256-cbc,[EMAIL PROTECTED]
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit:
hmac-md5,hmac-sha1,hmac-ripemd160,[EMAIL PROTECTED],hmac-sha1-96,hmac-md5-96
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit:
hmac-md5,hmac-sha1,hmac-ripemd160,[EMAIL PROTECTED],hmac-sha1-96,hmac-md5-96
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: none,zlib
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: none,zlib
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: 
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: 
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: first_kex_follows 0 
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: reserved 0 
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit:
diffie-hellman-group-exchange-sha1,diffie-hellman-group1-sha1
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: ssh-rsa,ssh-dss
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit:
aes128-cbc,3des-cbc,blowfish-cbc,cast128-cbc,arcfour,aes192-cbc,aes256-cbc,[EMAIL PROTECTED]
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit:
aes128-cbc,3des-cbc,blowfish-cbc,cast128-cbc,arcfour,aes192-cbc,aes256-cbc,[EMAIL PROTECTED]
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit:
hmac-md5,hmac-sha1,hmac-ripemd160,[EMAIL PROTECTED],hmac-sha1-96,hmac-md5-96
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit:
hmac-md5,hmac-sha1,hmac-ripemd160,[EMAIL PROTECTED],hmac-sha1-96,hmac-md5-96
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: none,zlib
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: none,zlib
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: 
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: 
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: first_kex_follows 0 
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: reserved 0 
debug2: mac_init: found hmac-md5
debug1: kex: server->client aes128-cbc hmac-md5 none
debug2: mac_init: found hmac-md5
debug1: kex: client->server aes128-cbc hmac-md5 none
debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REQUEST sent
debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_GROUP
debug1: dh_gen_key: priv key bits set: 135/256
debug1: bits set: 1608/3191
debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_INIT sent
debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REPLY
debug3: check_host_in_hostfile: filename /home/jim/.ssh/known_hosts
debug2: key_type_from_name: unknown key type '1024'
debug3: key_read: no key found
debug3: check_host_in_hostfile: match line 3
debug3: check_host_in_hostfile: filename /home/jim/.ssh/known_hosts
debug2: key_type_from_name: unknown key type '1024'
debug3: key_read: no key found
debug3: check_host_in_hostfile: match line 3
debug1: Host 'tethys.jipo.org' is known and matches the RSA host key.
debug1: Found key in /home/jim/.ssh/known_hosts:3
debug1: bits set: 1565/3191
debug1: ssh_rsa_verify: signature correct
debug1: kex_derive_keys
debug1: newkeys: mode 1
debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS sent
debug1: waiting for SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS
debug1: newkeys: mode 0
debug1: SSH2_M

Re: kill with regex?

[Christian Jaeger]

At 15:40 Uhr + 19.01.2003, Hugh Saunders wrote:

ps x gives a list of xine's which i would like to kill


Possibly those are threads, not distinct processes. If this is the 
case (in case of threads ps aux reports the same amount of memory for 
each; only looking at the xine docs or source can tell for sure) it 
should be enough to kill *one* of those process ids.  (And of course, 
killall xine works too, but this just looks at the process name so in 
general is a bit dangerous.)

Christian.


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no xserver

[anthony baldwin]

 it read earlier, and 
loopity-loop. So instead it repeats the data to a special "virtual" 
port, called /dev/gpmdata. Then X needs to be configured to read its 
incoming mouse data, not from the normal port, but from the 
/dev/gpmdata "port". Voila! gpm and X now get along just dandy.

So, you have two options.

1) Remove gpm, and just get the mouse working in X

2) Configure gpm to repeat the raw data (run gpmconfig and answer the 
questions), and configure X to read its mouse data from /dev/gpmdata.



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> #! /bin/sh
>
> # Backup entire 'myfiles/' directory, name it with the date.
>
> cd /usr/local/
> tar -czf /mnt/archive/autoarchive/date myfiles

man bash(1):

Command substitution allows the output of a command to replace the command 
name.  There are two forms:
  $(command)
   or
  `command`


So your command goes:
tar -czf /mnt/archive/autoarchive/`date` myfiles

greetings,
  Johannes

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Dictator

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On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 10:48:43AM +, Dave Selby wrote:
> I am writting a weekly automated backup script, very simple .. tars a 
> directory called 'myfiles' to a second hard drive.
> 
> Works AOK except I want the name of the file written by tar to be the time 
> and date. So I get a list of tared dated backups
> 
> I know 'date' gives me exactly what I want but I cant figure out how to get 
> tar to write a file with the value of date as its file name ...
> 
> 
> #! /bin/sh
> 
> # Backup entire 'myfiles/' directory, name it with the date.
> 
> cd /usr/local/
> tar -czf /mnt/archive/autoarchive/date myfiles
> 
> 
> I put this in /etc/cron.weekly and I get a file called date !!???
> I have tried '' and "" all to no avail

What you want is backticks (`date`). Since date's default output isn't
very good as a filename you probably want to specify the output format.
I would use something like this:

tar czf /mnt/archive/autoarchive/`date '+%Y%m%d'`.tar.gz myfiles

which would give you a file named 20030119.tar.gz. The reason I use
year-month-day format is that the alphabetical sorting that ls does by
default will match the chronological order of the files.

-- 
Michael Heironimus

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Checking my system, I don't have any /etc/apt/preferences file. What 
script installs it? It seems to be a regular text file from what I read 
in this thread. I am planing to downgrade one of my boxes from sid to 
sarge, this seems to be the way to go, but I don't know the exact 
configuration of this mentioned "preference"
?

Dale Hair wrote:

On Sat, 2003-01-18 at 13:04, Lloyd Zusman wrote:
 

Dale Hair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

   

On Sat, 2003-01-18 at 12:03, Lloyd Zusman wrote:
 

Dale Hair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

   

[ ... ]

Giving testing a priority of 1001 will downgrade to testing.
 

Thank you.  I just did that.  And now, which `apt-get' or `aptitude'
command(s) should I invoke to perform this downgrade?

[ ... ]
   

apt-get dist-upgrade
 

I did this, but nothing happened.  The command session is shown below.
I know that a number of unstable packages had been previously installed.

Any ideas?

Thanks.

# apt-get dist-upgrade
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Calculating Upgrade... Done
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0  not upgraded.


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If your /etc/apt/preferences has

Package: *
Pin: release a=testing
Pin-Priority: 1001

and unstable with a priority lower than 1000, then you must not have any
packages from unstable.

 

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In linux.debian.user, you wrote:
> 
> When I modprobe NVdriver, I get the following message:
> 
>   Warning: loading /lib/modules/2.4.20/kernel/drivers/video/NVdriver will
>   taint the kernel: non-GPL license - NVIDIA
> See http://www.tux.org/lkml/#export-tainted for information about
> tainted modules
> nvidia: loading NVIDIA Linux x86 NVdriver Kernel Module  1.0-3123  Tue
> Aug 27 15:56:48 PDT 2002
> Module NVdriver loaded, with warnings

 
>   Section "Device"
> Identifier"Nvidia"
> Driver"nvidia"
> VideoRam  32768
>   EndSection



I apologize for the earlier post to the newsgroup that was just a copy of
the original post.  Hit the wrong button. This one is going to the list and
will make its way to the newsgroup too. 

My module is called nvidia and not NVdriver.  I think the problem is that
you are loading a module called NVdriver and you have nvidia liste

Re: Passwordless SSH still asks for password when remote username differs

[Christian Jaeger]

Make sure that the user's home dir on the remote host is not group 
writeable (and the .ssh subdir as well). sshd does some checks before 
using some files.

Christian.


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Re: Passwordless SSH still asks for password when remote usernamediffers

[Jean-Marc V. Liotier]

On Sun, 2003-01-19 at 18:02, Christian Jaeger wrote:
> Make sure that the user's home dir on the remote host is not group 
> writeable (and the .ssh subdir as well). sshd does some checks before 
> using some files.

Yes, that was it. 'chmod 700 ~/.ssh' on the remote host solved the
problem. Thanks to you and to Colin for your help !




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Re: kernel-headers & compiling source

[David Z Maze]

Jeff Penn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I have read through the kernel-header docs, & am still not sure I 
> understand what they are for.  I assumed that they enable source to be 
> compiled when using a kernel-image.
>
> If this is correct, what is the procedure for compiling i2c-source or 
> lm-sensors-source?.

If you're compiling your own kernel, you should read those packages'
respective README.Debian files, which give instructions.
(Essentially, after you 'make-kpkg kernel-image', 'make-kpkg
modules-image'.)  If you're using one of the stock kernels, you may be
comparatively out of luck; I'm trying to get packages into unstable
that contain precompiled modules for the provided 2.4.20 kernels.
*glances at ftpmaster*

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-- Abra Mitchell


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Re: kernel upgrade to 2.4.20-k7

[David Z Maze]

Fraser Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> No need to wait.  I'm running kernel-image-2.4.20-k7 on my Athlon.  You'll 
> only need kernel-headers if you plan on compiling software.

...where "software" specifically means "kernel modules".  I suspect
most people will never have a reason to install a Debian
kernel-headers package.  If you built your kernel from source, you can
use the unpacked source tree for its headers.  If you're not trying to
compile a kernel module that's not packaged for Debian already and
don't have a kernel source tree sitting around, you don't need this
package.

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Re: Passwordless SSH still asks for password when remote usernamediffers

[Jean-Marc V. Liotier]

On Sun, 2003-01-19 at 18:04, Jean-Marc V. Liotier wrote:
> On Sun, 2003-01-19 at 18:02, Christian Jaeger wrote:
> > Make sure that the user's home dir on the remote host is not group 
> > writeable (and the .ssh subdir as well). sshd does some checks before 
> > using some files.
> 
> Yes, that was it. 'chmod 700 ~/.ssh' on the remote host solved the
> problem. Thanks to you and to Colin for your help !

While I'm at it, here is my revised recipe fort passwordless SSH. Next
step : use ssh-agent... But that is going to be another story. For now :

# Local end :
cd ~/.ssh
# Enter an empty password when prompted by the following command
ssh-keygen -t dsa -f id_dsa
scp id_dsa.pub [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/.ssh
# Repeat last command for all remote ends

# Remote end
test -d .ssh || mkdir .ssh
chmod 700 ~/.ssh
cd ~/.ssh
touch authorized_keys2
cat id_dsa.pub >> authorized_keys2
chmod 640 authorized_keys2
rm -f id_dsa.pub

# Local end :
ssh -l user remote.end.net
# Look ma, no password !





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Huge Memory Usage in X

[Hesham Hassan]

Hi,
  This is a copy of a message I sent to the X list but got no response to:
I'm not sure if this is X related or not, however this seems to affect only

X applications (so nothing on the console is out of the ordinary).  I noticed

the problems about one week ago after doing a standard upgrad (apt-get 
dist-upgrade), I unfortunately didn't pay attention to what packages were 
updated, but X was one of them.  Now, all apps take a huge amount of time to

load up, and a huge amount of memory.  Most apps will take a minimum of 100

megs just to start up.  KDE now takes up over 500 megs, and takes five 
minutes to start up.  This is probably a stupid question, but could this be

related to the gcc-3.2 transition?  If not, what could be causing it?  I have

since downgraded from Branden's experimental packages that just went up a few

days ago, and reinstalled a different version of KDE, but to no avail... My

system is a 2.5GHz P4 with the NVidia Drivers (I have tried the X ones as 
well as the binaries), on the 2.5.59 kernel (I have tried on the standard 
Debian one (2.4.18 or 19), as well as 2.5.54), Memory is 512 ram and about 

700 swap... I think this about covers it... I also tried using a minimum 
number of modules in my X config file, disabling Framebuffer use, and 
commented out the DRI lines...  If any more info is needed from me just let

me know, and thanks in advance for any help offered.

Cordially,
Hesham Hassan


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Re: kill with regex?

[Colin Watson]

On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 05:32:19PM +0100, Philipp Gruemmer wrote:
> Hugh Saunders wrote:
> > ps x gives a list of xine's which i would like to kill
> [...snip...]
> > 2) how do i get kill or bash to realise its an expression?
> 
> Is there any reason not to use 'killall xine'?
> That's how I do it ususally...

'pkill xine' is better if you have a new enough version of procps, since
'killall' does ... let's say surprising things on System V-ish variants
of Unix.

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Re: user group

[Colin Watson]

On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 08:39:52AM -0800, Mike Thompson wrote:
> I want to make some non-shell accounts and there is a group called user
> in /etc/group.  Is this group used for this purpose?

I guess you mean 'users'. No.
/usr/share/doc/base-passwd/users-and-groups.html in unstable says:

users

While Debian systems use the user-group system by default (each user has
their own group), some prefer to use a more traditional group system. In
that system, each user is a member of the 'users' group.

Just put a ! in place of their crypted password in /etc/shadow (assuming
you're using shadow passwords).

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Re: How do I do this in bash ??

[Dave Selby]

On Sunday 19 January 2003 10:48 am, Dave Selby wrote:
> Hi all ...
>
> I am writting a weekly automated backup script, very simple .. tars a
> directory called 'myfiles' to a second hard drive.
>
> Works AOK except I want the name of the file written by tar to be the time
> and date. So I get a list of tared dated backups
>
> I know 'date' gives me exactly what I want but I cant figure out how to get
> tar to write a file with the value of date as its file name ...
>
>
> #! /bin/sh
>
> # Backup entire 'myfiles/' directory, name it with the date.
>
> cd /usr/local/
> tar -czf /mnt/archive/autoarchive/date myfiles
>
>
> I put this in /etc/cron.weekly and I get a file called date !!???
> I have tried '' and "" all to no avail
>
> Any hints ??
> Dave

Many many thanks for all your suggestions !! 
You have all been a great help, Auto updating should be on line in  
approx 10 mins  complete with date !!

Dave


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RE: How do I do this in bash ??

[Jeremy Gaddis]

[jeremy@MERCURY:pts/1:~]$ crontab -l
0 8 * * *   /home/jeremy/bin/backupmail.sh

[jeremy@MERCURY:pts/1:~]$ cat ~jeremy/bin/backupmail.sh
#!/bin/bash

FILENAME=/home/jeremy/backups/mail/`date -I`.tar

cd ~jeremy/
/bin/tar -chf $FILENAME mail/*

HTH,
j.

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> -Original Message-
> From: Dave Selby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 5:49 AM
> To: Debian
> Subject: How do I do this in bash ??
>
>
> Hi all ...
>
> I am writting a weekly automated backup script, very simple .. tars a
> directory called 'myfiles' to a second hard drive.
>
> Works AOK except I want the name of the file written by tar
> to be the time
> and date. So I get a list of tared dated backups
>
> I know 'date' gives me exactly what I want but I cant figure
> out how to get
> tar to write a file with the value of date as its file name ...
>
>
> #! /bin/sh
>
> # Backup entire 'myfiles/' directory, name it with the date.
>
> cd /usr/local/
> tar -czf /mnt/archive/autoarchive/date myfiles
>
>
> I put this in /etc/cron.weekly and I get a file called date !!???
> I have tried '' and "" all to no avail
>
> Any hints ??
> Dave
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Re: no xserver

[Kent West]

anthony baldwin wrote:


I installed woody for the first time yetserday on a frankenstein box I
made outta spare parts (It has run redhat).
I had several issues, starts and restarts, but I finally got through
the entire install and rebooted...and the xserver wouldn't start...



Lots of possibilities. What happens when you type "startx"?

You might want to try "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86".

More details, please.



This is a bit frustrating, I must say.  It certainly doesn;t take me all weekend to install Red Hat.  Of course, I know that Debian is not trying to make money, just
build great FREE software, and I respect that.



Debian runs on almost /everything/; accordingly, the Debian installer 
can't get way with making assumptions about the hardware and what the 
user wants the way Redhat /et al/  can. This means that the installation 
doesn't always go as smoothly as other distros. On the other hand, you 
only have to install a Debian system once; maintenance and upgrades are 
easy. Some of the other distros, when it comes time to upgrade, you 
essentially have to do a re-install. (I understand that things are 
getting better in this regard.) Debian has its priorities elsewhere than 
in an easy-to-install system (although it's worlds better than it was a 
couple of versions ago - thanks, guys!)

I have an old monitor that someon was throwing away (can't handle more than 800x600 at 60, and 256 colors, even).  The video is onboard the mobo, an MSI G11-CB00056
Any ideas?
As exasperating as your install is, I totally dig the true spirit of freedom and community that Debian appears to embody.
For reference, I have only about 10 months experience using Linux all together.  I have installed and used several RedHats (7.0-8.0), Corel(debian based, right?


Yes, Corel is Debian-based, as is Lindows (think $300 Wal-Mart PC).


but has a graphical install that is much easier to follow), Blue Linux, and Lycoris.
Further, I am an English teacher, not a computer scientist (trying to learn).
Any assistance appreciated.  Maybe I saw you at freenode irc #debian (I am tony, photodharma or zenteach).


tony

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Re: IDE disk corruption - A7M266-D; which kernel patches? or other solution

[Pigeon]

On Sat, Jan 18, 2003 at 11:27:28AM -0500, Daniel Barclay wrote:
> I'm getting disk corruption if I try to enable DMA mode for my IDE
> disks.
> 
> I get mesages like:
>   hdc: timeout waiting for DMA
>   ide_dmaproc: chipset supported ide_dma_timeout func. only: 14
>   hdc: status error: status=0x58 { DriveReady, SeekComplete, DataRequest }
>   hdc: drive not ready for command
> 
> 
> The linux-kernel mailing list archives seem to indicate that there
> is a patch for a kernel bug that can cause disk corruption.
> 
> Does anybody know which 2.4.x kernel patches are supposed to fix that?
> 
> Or is the problem something else?

If you have a VIA chipset try making sure that VIA chipset support is
included in the kernel.

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Re: using modeplot to find an Xwindow setup

[Pigeon]

On Sat, Jan 18, 2003 at 12:44:14AM -0600, will trillich wrote:
> my matrox millennium card is driving a memorex telex (mfg july
> 1993) monitor, for which i can't find any specs, even thru
> google.
> 
> i've tried 'get-edid' and it borked my system beyond all hope --
> a hardware reset was the only wakeup call it responded to!
> 
> okay, i've got "modeplot.sh" (and gnuplot) and running it shows
> that i will be able to figure what resolutions are possible
> (where the diagonals intersect the space between the two
> horizontals (vertical refresh bounds) and the vertical-esque
> sweeps (horizonal refresh bounds).
> 
> what other tools are available to snoop into my monitor's
> abilities? clock speed -- unknown. vert refresh -- unknown.
> horiz refresh -- unknown. aaugh!

Try xvidtune.

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Can't upgrade from slink to woody!

[Pigeon]

Hi,

Just got a set of Woody CDs (thanks Gerald!) to upgrade my slink
system. I've copied them all onto hard drives as iso images and
loopback mounted them (read only) to avoid mucking around swapping CDs.
I then  used apt-cdrom to add them all to /etc/apt/sources.list, and
ran apt-get update. It gets 64% of the way through Reading Package
Lists and then segfaults.

This is of course the slink version of apt, 0.3.11.
The CD-ROM entries in sources.list are the only ones there.
As a wild guess I tried the cache-limit cure for "dynamic mmap ran out
of room" on the theory that maybe an older version of apt didn't give
such a useful error message. It made no difference; varying the limit
didn't affect the 64%.

I have also tried dselect, but its multi-cd access method doesn't seem
to work; it only lets me tell it about one CD at a time.

Any ideas on how to get either of these methods working? Since the C
libraries will be upgraded I have no desire to upgrade by hand!

Pigeon


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Re: Drive errors

[Pigeon]

On Fri, Jan 17, 2003 at 10:06:01AM -0500, Matthew Daubenspeck wrote:
> I have been running the same woody box for more then 2 years, and I
> just got the following message:
> 
> hda: timeout waiting for DMA
> hda: irq timeout: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest }
> hda: timeout waiting for DMA
> hda: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
> hda: DMA disabled
> ide0: reset: success
> 
> I seem to remember (the archives were no help) that someone had
> suggested that this may be a bad drive? Everything seems to be working
> now, but if this drive is on it's way out, I would rather replace it
> now before it's completely dead...

I just had this (on a CD-RW rather than an HD). Ten minutes later the
drive lost its ability to drive the sled and loading motors. It's
completely f**ked now. So yeah, I'd be worried.

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Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

[Pigeon]

On Fri, Jan 17, 2003 at 07:52:21PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
> [1] Bicycle with cargo trailers can move anything.  I've moved a sofa
> and a fridge with them myself, though had to rent larger trailers.

I've moved a fridge by strapping it on the carrier. This made the bike
possible to ride, but impossible to push.

How does your trailer cope with the bike leaning over on corners?

Pigeon


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Re: Changeover of SCSI buses

[Pigeon]

On Sat, Jan 18, 2003 at 01:40:23PM +, Phil Reynolds wrote:
> I have been using Debian for some time now, and over that time have acquired
> several new items of hardware.
> 
> I have a CD writer, which is IDE, and therefore needs SCSI emulation. This
> was always device 0,1,0 when specifed to cdrecord. I also have a digital
> camera, which is USB mass storage.
> 
> I know cdrecord at least should be able to cope with me specifying /dev/sg1
> so I may well try that. It seems that, at some time recently, the two buses
> have swapped over, so the USB is now 0, and the IDE 1, so the CD writer is
> now 1,1,0. The camera still mounts, as it is referred to as /dev/sda1.
> 
> Why might these buses have swapped over? If I can refer to the CD writer as
> /dev/sg1 in cdrecord, this won't matter, but I consider this a strange thing
> to happen anyway.

It may be to do with which device is readable at bootup; I've had two
ide-scsi CD drives, and if only one had a CD in it, that one would be
assigned ID 0, and the unreadable one ID 1.

It may also be to do with the order in which the relevant kernel
modules are loaded.

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Re: kill with regex?

[Jor-el]

On Sun, 19 Jan 2003, Colin Watson wrote:

> On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 05:32:19PM +0100, Philipp Gruemmer wrote:
> > Hugh Saunders wrote:
> > > ps x gives a list of xine's which i would like to kill
> > [...snip...]
> > > 2) how do i get kill or bash to realise its an expression?
> > 
> > Is there any reason not to use 'killall xine'?
> > That's how I do it ususally...
> 
> 'pkill xine' is better if you have a new enough version of procps, since
> 'killall' does ... let's say surprising things on System V-ish variants
> of Unix.
> 
Hi,

A more general solution would be :

 | xargs kill

Regards,
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amavis finds virus though there is none

[Hans Wilmer]

Hi,

it seems that I've managed to successfully install amavis
(amavisd-snapshot-20020300) on my mailserver, using f-prot as
virus-scanner :)

But in the first testmail with an attachment I've sent, amavis
reported to have found a virus. The attachment was the file
amavisd-new-20021227-p2.tar.gz, and the report says:


> /var/amavis/amavis-XX5rSwXg/parts/part-00033 Infection: New or
> modified variant of Trivial


Neither checking the archive with f-prot directly, not unpacking it
and scanning the directory containing the unpacked files, can find a
virus.

Sending testmails with other attachments didn't report any viruses, so
this must have to do with that particular attachment.

What may be going on here?


PS: MTA is exim

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Re: kill with regex?

[Antonio Rodriguez]

How would you produce this list?

Jor-el wrote:


On Sun, 19 Jan 2003, Colin Watson wrote:

 

On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 05:32:19PM +0100, Philipp Gruemmer wrote:
   

Hugh Saunders wrote:
 

ps x gives a list of xine's which i would like to kill
   

[...snip...]
 

2) how do i get kill or bash to realise its an expression?
   

Is there any reason not to use 'killall xine'?
That's how I do it ususally...
 

'pkill xine' is better if you have a new enough version of procps, since
'killall' does ... let's say surprising things on System V-ish variants
of Unix.

   

Hi,

	A more general solution would be :

	 | xargs kill

Regards,
Jor-el


 




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Re: no xserver

[Seneca]

[please don't quote the entire digest at the end of your message]

On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 08:49:18AM -0800, anthony baldwin wrote:
> I installed woody for the first time yetserday on a frankenstein box I
> made outta spare parts (It has run redhat).
> I had several issues, starts and restarts, but I finally got through
> the entire install and rebooted...and the xserver wouldn't start...

  1) Have you installed X?
   If no, install X (apt-get install x-window-system-core).
   If yes, proceed to step 2.
  2) Does X start when you issue the command startx from the command line?
   If no, install xbase-clients.
   If yes, but with errors, read /var/log/XFree86.0.log and
 reconfigure and/or install new packages as necessary.
   If yes with no errors, proceed to step 3.
  3) Do you have a window manager installed (X will exit shortly after
 starting with no window manager installed)?
   If no, install a window manager.
   If yes, proceed to step 4.
  4) Do you have a display manager installed?
   If no, install a display manager (xdm, gdm, kdm, or wdm)
   If yes, what errors are occurring?

> This is a bit frustrating, I must say.  It certainly doesn;t take me
> all weekend to install Red Hat.  Of course, I know that Debian is not
> trying to make money, just build great FREE software, and I respect
> that.  I have an old monitor that someon was throwing away (can't
> handle more than 800x600 at 60, and 256 colors, even).  The video is
> onboard the mobo, an MSI G11-CB00056 Any ideas?  As exasperating as
> your install is, I totally dig the true spirit of freedom and
> community that Debian appears to embody.

I'm not sure about which video driver to use, but generic vga should
work.  If you plan on spending a lot of time in X, I would suggest that
you get another monitor.  While its true that you can do X with that
(and although I've used 640x480, 16 colours, before, X is much nicer to
look at with a few more pixels and colours).  Since you said that the
system has run Red Hat, do you have a copy of your old X config that you
could look at?

> For reference, I have only about 10 months experience using Linux all
> together.  I have installed and used several RedHats (7.0-8.0),
> Corel(debian based, right? but has a graphical install that is much
> easier to follow), Blue Linux, and Lycoris.

I've always had problems with graphical installers.  They tend not to
like my systems (all except one are at least seven years old, the newest
one does not have a (physically) working cdrom).  It might help if I had
newer hardware or a mouse with a working left mouse button (when I use
X, I use a two-button mouse that only the right mouse button works on),
but I like the console, so it doesn't matter too much to me.

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Re: dependancy not found (apt-get)

[Seneca]

On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 10:18:53AM -0600, Jor-el wrote:
>   I am trying to use my apt preferences setup to install "straw"
> from unstable onto my stable system. Here is what I get :
[...]
> trillian:/etc/apt# apt-get install -t unstable straw python-gnome2
> python2.2-gnome2 libnautilus2-2 libgnome-desktop-0
[...]
> Package libgnome-desktop-0 has no available version, but exists in the
> database.
> This typically means that the package was mentioned in a dependency and
> never uploaded, has been obsoleted or is not available with the contents
> of sources.list
> E: Package libgnome-desktop-0 has no installation candidate
> 
>   (1) What does this mean and (2) Is there hope for me?

It's interesting... I run unstable, and apt can't find
libgnome-desktop-0, but its dependancies are listed at
http://packages.debian.org/unstable/libs/libgnome-desktop-0.html and
it doesn't seem to exist anywhere else... Maybe you'll be able to
install straw later.

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Re: kill with regex?

[Jan Trippler]

On Son, 19 Jan 2003 at 15:40 (+), Hugh Saunders wrote:
> ps x gives a list of xine's which i would like to kill
> 
> 1609 ?S  0:01 xine /dev/hdc
> 1610 ?S  0:00 xine /dev/hdc
> 1618 ?S  0:00 xine /dev/hdc
> 1619 ?S  0:00 xine /dev/hdc
> 1620 ?S  0:00 xine /dev/hdc
> 
> tried
> kill 16[1234567890]* 

The shell tries to expand this expression - it works only for
filenames. You must use commands that understand regex instead
(grep, sed, awk ...)

> which returned
> bash: kill: 16[1234567890]*: no such pid
> 
> 1) is the regexp correct to match the pids of the processes?
> 2) how do i get kill or bash to realise its an expression?

kill `pidof xine`

Jan


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Re: dependancy not found (apt-get)

[Colin Watson]

On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 01:44:56PM -0500, Seneca wrote:
> It's interesting... I run unstable, and apt can't find
> libgnome-desktop-0, but its dependancies are listed at
> http://packages.debian.org/unstable/libs/libgnome-desktop-0.html and
> it doesn't seem to exist anywhere else...

It looks like it was recently removed in favour of libgnome-desktop-2.
Anything depending on it needs to be rebuilt, if it hasn't been already:
see bug #177326 for libnautilus2-2.

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Re: Can't upgrade from slink to woody!

[Ron Johnson]

On Sun, 2003-01-19 at 12:05, Pigeon wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Just got a set of Woody CDs (thanks Gerald!) to upgrade my slink
> system. I've copied them all onto hard drives as iso images and
> loopback mounted them (read only) to avoid mucking around swapping CDs.
> I then  used apt-cdrom to add them all to /etc/apt/sources.list, and
> ran apt-get update. It gets 64% of the way through Reading Package
> Lists and then segfaults.
> 
> This is of course the slink version of apt, 0.3.11.
> The CD-ROM entries in sources.list are the only ones there.
> As a wild guess I tried the cache-limit cure for "dynamic mmap ran out
> of room" on the theory that maybe an older version of apt didn't give
> such a useful error message. It made no difference; varying the limit
> didn't affect the 64%.
> 
> I have also tried dselect, but its multi-cd access method doesn't seem
> to work; it only lets me tell it about one CD at a time.
> 
> Any ideas on how to get either of these methods working? Since the C
> libraries will be upgraded I have no desire to upgrade by hand!

Could you try updating to Potato first?  That way, you won't be
making such a huge version leap in almost every bit of software
in one step.

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Re: IDE disk corruption - A7M266-D; which kernel patches? or other solution

[Al Davis]

> On Sat, Jan 18, 2003 at 11:27:28AM -0500, Daniel Barclay 
wrote:
> > I'm getting disk corruption if I try to enable DMA mode for
> > my IDE disks.

On Saturday 18 January 2003 04:14 pm, Pigeon wrote:
> If you have a VIA chipset try making sure that VIA chipset
> support is included in the kernel.

How do I find out?

I am using the one on the woody bf2.4 cd.


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Re: installation date

[Jan Willem Stumpel]

Carlos Sousa wrote:

> I don't know of any simple way to get that info from the package
> management system, but, using an idea that came up on this list
> a few months ago, I have made a little script run by cron every
> day that generates a list of all installed packages, compares
> with the list generated in the previous run, and adds the
> changes, duly timestamped,
> to a history file.

> This enables me to get the info you want:
> [..]

An ingenious idea...

In the meantime I found another trick which works if you use
apt-get, and do not clean the cache very often:

   ls -lt --time=use /var/cache/apt/archives|less

The --time=use gives the time when the archives were last used,
i.e. installed, instead of the date there were packaged.

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source files

[raymond]

Hello
I try to find the source code of the kernels, I need it do compile a driver
I don't know where to find it
Thanks for your help
Raymond



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Re: installation date

[Alvin Oga]

hi ya carlos

On Sun, 19 Jan 2003, Jan Willem Stumpel wrote:

> Carlos Sousa wrote:
> 
> > I don't know of any simple way to get that info from the package
> > management system, but, using an idea that came up on this list
> > a few months ago, I have made a little script run by cron every
> > day that generates a list of all installed packages, compares
> > with the list generated in the previous run, and adds the
> > changes, duly timestamped,
> > to a history file.

and i also keep a (backup) copy of all the binaries and config files 
so that if its been modified, i can quickly restore that one file
( production boxes should NOT change too often... 
( except when "allowed" to be updated and a new checksum is created

c ya
alvin

> > This enables me to get the info you want:
> > [..]
> 
> An ingenious idea...
> 
> In the meantime I found another trick which works if you use
> apt-get, and do not clean the cache very often:
> 
>ls -lt --time=use /var/cache/apt/archives|less
> 
> The --time=use gives the time when the archives were last used,
> i.e. installed, instead of the date there were packaged.
> 


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RE: source files

[Jeremy Gaddis]

For 2.2 kernels:

ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.2/

For 2.4 kernels:

ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.4/

j.

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> Hello
> I try to find the source code of the kernels, I need it do 
> compile a driver
> I don't know where to find it
> Thanks for your help
> Raymond
> 
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Detecting the fysical mouse URGENT

[Joris Huizer]

Hi everybody,

As some of you allready knows I've got many problems
to get an USB mouse working (I only have that USB
mouse)

I allready posted this before but I got not even one
reply on it so I think most of you must have missed it
or something.

I'm kind of sure The mouse is not at all found be
Debian - so something is very wrong - missing a driver
or whatever, unfortunately I just don't have an idea
what it is - or what I should do to get it fixed :-(



I found I still have got some boot info of Redhat,
which was in use on this computer before I installed
Debian. I included a tar file which includes:
- mouse-log-debian.txt: a part of the actual
/var/log/kern.log file
- mouse-log-redhat.txt: the text redhat gave when
booting (where the mouse worked successfully)

I typed in the text in mouse-log-redhat.txt - so it
may contain typo's.

Maybe you can compare them and than give (specific)
pointers at what should be my actions to get the mouse
to work - comparing is very hard for me as I don't
know what everything means.

Please tell me specificly what to do - I'm kind of get
the feeling I know no nothing about hardware related
stuff ... :-S

Thanks in advance for any help


Joris

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Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

[Joris Huizer]

> 
> I wonder if all (or most) of you are in similar
careers and that is
> why you are so proficient with compiling and testing
and tweaking
> all of this stuff.  Or is it just a hobby that has
gone on for so
> long that you have advanced your knowledge of
Linux/Debian to these
> levels that all of you are at?
> 
> Just curious...
> 
>:o)
> 
> Scott (sidewalking)

I'm studying Informatica in Leiden, Holland :-)


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Re: IDE disk corruption - A7M266-D; which kernel patches? or othersolution

[Ron Johnson]

On Sun, 2003-01-19 at 13:42, Al Davis wrote:
> > On Sat, Jan 18, 2003 at 11:27:28AM -0500, Daniel Barclay 
> wrote:
> > > I'm getting disk corruption if I try to enable DMA mode for
> > > my IDE disks.
> 
> On Saturday 18 January 2003 04:14 pm, Pigeon wrote:
> > If you have a VIA chipset try making sure that VIA chipset
> > support is included in the kernel.
> 
> How do I find out?
> 
> I am using the one on the woody bf2.4 cd.

Well, 1st, do you know which chipset the A7V266-D runs?
Btw, the ASUS web site only mentions the A7V266-C.
http://usa.asus.com/mb/socketa/a7v266-c/overview.htm

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Re: IDE disk corruption - A7M266-D; which kernel patches? or othersolution

[Donald Spoon]

Al Davis wrote:

On Sat, Jan 18, 2003 at 11:27:28AM -0500, Daniel Barclay 

wrote:


I'm getting disk corruption if I try to enable DMA mode for
my IDE disks.



On Saturday 18 January 2003 04:14 pm, Pigeon wrote:


If you have a VIA chipset try making sure that VIA chipset
support is included in the kernel.



How do I find out?

I am using the one on the woody bf2.4 cd.




The "lspci" command should show you which chipset you have.  For example 
here is mine (Via Chipset):

00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8367 [KT266]
00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8367 [KT266 AGP]
00:0a.0 VGA compatible controller: 3Dfx Interactive, Inc. Voodoo 3 (rev 01)
00:0b.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. 
RTL-8139/8139C (rev 10)
00:11.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233 PCI to ISA Bridge
00:11.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. Bus Master IDE (rev 06)
00:11.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 1b)
00:11.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 1b)
00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233 AC97 
Audio Controller (rev 30)

Some of the lines are probably wrapped due to this mailer, but you 
should get the idea.

Cheers,
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Re: user group

[Michael J. Denton]

> I want to make some non-shell accounts and there is a group called user
> in /etc/group.  Is this group used for this purpose?

Yes and No :)

By default users are created with shell access.

I would suggest that when you create the new userid as a member of the
user group you change the shell of the user to /bin/false - that way they
will have no shell access.

adduser  --system  [options] [--home DIR] [--shell SHELL]

where SHELL would be /bin/false

man adduser also gives you more info than I have listed here.

As well, you can always go into /etc/passwd and change the shell of the
user there:

Before: testuser:x:1003:100:Test User,,,:/home/testuser:/bin/bash

After: testuser:x:1003:100:Test User,,,:/home/testuser:/bin/false

Hope that helps.

Mike


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Re: source files

[Wayne Topa]

[EMAIL PROTECTED]([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
> Hello
> I try to find the source code of the kernels, I need it do compile a driver
> I don't know where to find it
> Thanks for your help

either
apt-cache search kernel-source then apt-get which one you want, 
or
ftp..kernel.org

would be 2 ways.
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Re: IDE disk corruption - A7M266-D; which kernel patches? or other solution

[Wayne Topa]

Al Davis([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
> 
> > On Sat, Jan 18, 2003 at 11:27:28AM -0500, Daniel Barclay 
> wrote:
> > > I'm getting disk corruption if I try to enable DMA mode for
> > > my IDE disks.
> 
> On Saturday 18 January 2003 04:14 pm, Pigeon wrote:
> > If you have a VIA chipset try making sure that VIA chipset
> > support is included in the kernel.
> 
> How do I find out?
> 
> I am using the one on the woody bf2.4 cd.

lspci will show if you have VIA and

grep VIA /usr/src/linux/.config will show if you have enabled it.

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Re: Drive errors

[Jean-Marc V. Liotier]

On Sat, 2003-01-18 at 23:42, Pigeon wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 17, 2003 at 10:06:01AM -0500, Matthew Daubenspeck wrote:
> > I have been running the same woody box for more then 2 years, and I
> > just got the following message:
> > 
> > hda: timeout waiting for DMA
> > hda: irq timeout: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest }
> > hda: timeout waiting for DMA
> > hda: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
> > hda: DMA disabled
> > ide0: reset: success
> > 
> > I seem to remember (the archives were no help) that someone had
> > suggested that this may be a bad drive? Everything seems to be working
> > now, but if this drive is on it's way out, I would rather replace it
> > now before it's completely dead...
> 
> I just had this (on a CD-RW rather than an HD). Ten minutes later the
> drive lost its ability to drive the sled and loading motors. It's
> completely f**ked now. So yeah, I'd be worried.

Same experience here : an old IDE hard drive began producing these
errors under load a few days before dying completely. Your disk is
probably going to die soon. Back it up NOW if you can, and maybe
throttle the backup so that it does not stress the disk too hard - a
final crash while backing up would sure be a pity.





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Re: WAS: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related--NOW, I gave up and went back to Mandrake :-(

[Bob Proulx]

Colin Watson wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 10:47:18AM +0200, Alaa The Great wrote:
> > 
> > the RPM format itself seems to have all the features of deb,
> 
> It has most of them, although it's missing one or two. I'm reliably (I
> think) informed that it doesn't have diversions, for instance.

In general the capabilities are very similar.  Discussing the pros and
cons of those two are like doing the same for emacs and vi.

RPM does allow you to --relocate one path to another path.  But if I
understand where you would go with that the answer is that you will
need to --relocate on the command line each time you upgrade to a new
version of the package as it does not "stick".

And there is the reverse as well.  Is there a way to verify the
installation of an installed deb package similar to 'rpm --verify'?
Is there a way to correct the permissions and ownerships of the
installed files of an installed deb similar to 'rpm --setperms' and
'rpm --setugids'?


Don't laugh, I live in this environment.  Usually it is some corp
written thing which includes a script which has not seen any code
review.  Admins should have programming skills especially at the
higher levels.  But remember the job is done by the lowest bidder.
Script is run by local admin doing what they were told to do by corp
admin.  Script munges things that it should not munge.  AIDE is a
godsend to find these issues and send alert that things are now
different.  But a --verify would be better because AIDE does not tell
me what is wrong, just that things changed.  It does not tell me what
package(s) need fixing.  I would rather have a package verify run
nightly in place of the nightly AIDE run.  On second thought in
addition to it.

Fortunately 'apt-get --reinstall install package' usually does the
work easily enough to correct the problem.  But then the next AIDE run
will have lots of noise and I am still not sure if things are really
back to the right place as I would be if there were a --verify option.
Maybe I should just nightly reinstall the entire system on every host
because you just can't be too sure.


> The missing features probably wouldn't be hard to add if somebody wanted
> to, though.

And very easy for the reverse as well.  The md5sum file already
exists and could be verified from that.  Sounds perfectly suited to a
dpkg-verify script.  Hmm...  Hopefully someone will just tell me this
work is already done by a method of which I am not aware.  That would
be great.

> > what is missing is tools and a tradition of best practices.
> 
> Amen.

Complete agreement.

Bob



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Re: IDE disk corruption - A7M266-D; which kernel patches? or other solution

[Bob Proulx]

Ron Johnson wrote:
> Well, 1st, do you know which chipset the A7V266-D runs?
> Btw, the ASUS web site only mentions the A7V266-C.
> http://usa.asus.com/mb/socketa/a7v266-c/overview.htm

Try this url for the dual model.  (D is for dual.)

  http://usa.asus.com/mb/socketa/a7m266-d/overview.htm

Bob



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Re: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related careers/schooling?

[Jean-Marc V. Liotier]

On Sat, 2003-01-18 at 23:31, Pigeon wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 17, 2003 at 07:52:21PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
> > [1] Bicycle with cargo trailers can move anything.  I've moved a sofa
> > and a fridge with them myself, though had to rent larger trailers.
> 
> I've moved a fridge by strapping it on the carrier. This made the bike
> possible to ride, but impossible to push.

You want a Tchoukoudou !

http://clignot.antville.org/stories/102758/##comments

Who would have guessed that a discussion on debian-user would drift so
far to get me to post a link about those Congolese wooden bicycles ?
They have wooden wheels and routinely carry 400 to 500 kg on the slopes
of the Great Lakes volcanoes. Online ordering is presently not
possible...




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Re: IDE disk corruption - A7M266-D; which kernel patches? or other solution

[Bob Proulx]

Wayne Topa wrote:
> Al Davis([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
> > How do I find out?
> > I am using the one on the woody bf2.4 cd.
> 
> lspci will show if you have VIA and
> 
> grep VIA /usr/src/linux/.config will show if you have enabled it.

If you are using the bf24 kernel then the config is installed in /boot.

  grep VIA /boot/config-2.4.18-bf2.4 
  CONFIG_BLK_DEV_VIA82CXXX=y
  CONFIG_VIA_RHINE=m
  CONFIG_AGP_VIA=y
  CONFIG_SOUND_VIA82CXXX=m

Lots of good documentation about the Debian way of installing kernels
in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/*.

Bob



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Re: AGAINdebian-newbe problems w. ssh

[Bob Proulx]

Oliver wrote:
> >> I got the message ...: sshd Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key
> >> Disabling protocol version1
> >>
> >> Could anybody point me how to make a protocol 1 key ?
> >
> >'ssh-keygen -t rsa1'

The error message sounds to me like either an 'rsa' or a 'dsa' key is
in the file instead of an 'rsa1' key.

If it has only numbers in the key it is 'rsa1'.  If it contains both
numbers and letters it is 'rsa'.  If you posted the contents of
/etc/ssh/ssh_host_key.pub we could tell for sure.  If it is the wrong
key type then you will have to remake it as the correct type using the
command that Karsten provided previously.  Here is a recap.

  ssh-keygen -t rsa1 -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key -N ''

Bob



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Re: kill with regex?

[Jor-el]

On Sun, 19 Jan 2003, Antonio Rodriguez wrote:

> How would you produce this list?
> 
> Jor-el wrote:
> 
> >On Sun, 19 Jan 2003, Colin Watson wrote:
> >
> >  
> >
> >>On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 05:32:19PM +0100, Philipp Gruemmer wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Hugh Saunders wrote:
> >>>  
> >>>
> ps x gives a list of xine's which i would like to kill
> 
> 
> >>>[...snip...]
> >>>  
> >>>
> 2) how do i get kill or bash to realise its an expression?
> 
> 
> >>>Is there any reason not to use 'killall xine'?
> >>>That's how I do it ususally...
> >>>  
> >>>
> >>'pkill xine' is better if you have a new enough version of procps, since
> >>'killall' does ... let's say surprising things on System V-ish variants
> >>of Unix.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >Hi,
> >
> > A more general solution would be :
> >
> >  | xargs kill
> >
Antonio,

ps x | grep xine | awk '{print $1}'

...would work for the original poster. So would killall, but
killall would work only when the process names are all the same. If, for
instance, you wanted to kill all processes belonging to a particular user,
one would do :

ps auxw | awk '{if($1 == ) print $2}' | xargs kill

(where  stands for the username that you are targetting)

Regards,
Jor-el


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Re: Can't start X with Nvidia [solved]

[Benedict Verheyen]

Op zo 19-01-2003, om 17:33 schreef Sridhar M.A.:
> On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 03:56:18AM -0500, Ian D. Stewart wrote:
>> On Sunday 19 January 2003 06:34, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> >
>> > My module is called nvidia and not NVdriver.  I think the problem
>> > is that you are loading a module called NVdriver and you have
>> > nvidia listed as the driver in the X config file.  Maybe try
>> > changing the Driver in X to NVdriver to see if that works.  Or I
>> > guess you could put an alias in so that nvidia would be the same
>> > as NVdriver.
>> 
>> NVDriver is the linux kernel module.  nvidia is the X display driver.
>> 
> This was the case in 1.0.3123 version of nvidia drivers. As of 1.0.4191,
> both of them are nvidia. 
> 
> In case anyone has similar problems, the latest version solved my
> problem. Just downloaded the 1.0.4191 tgz's, did a make and make
> install. X started just fine. Finally, I could play tuxracer :-D
> 
> Regards,
> 
> -- 
> Sridhar M.A.

I'm glad i'm not the only one that compiled the nvidia drivers in order
to play tuxracer :)


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Re: kernel-headers & compiling source

[Bob Nielsen]

On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 12:25:12PM -0500, David Z Maze wrote:
> Jeff Penn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I have read through the kernel-header docs, & am still not sure I 
> > understand what they are for.  I assumed that they enable source to be 
> > compiled when using a kernel-image.
> >
> > If this is correct, what is the procedure for compiling i2c-source or 
> > lm-sensors-source?.
> 
> If you're compiling your own kernel, you should read those packages'
> respective README.Debian files, which give instructions.
> (Essentially, after you 'make-kpkg kernel-image', 'make-kpkg
> modules-image'.)  If you're using one of the stock kernels, you may be
> comparatively out of luck; I'm trying to get packages into unstable
> that contain precompiled modules for the provided 2.4.20 kernels.
> *glances at ftpmaster*

'make-kpkg --append-to-version -686 modules-image' works for me.


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can´t install debian on power mac G4

[SALEH ABUZID]

when i start partition the hard disk i get a massage (no hard disk 
found) ,how should i solve this problem have been trying for many days 
and ican´t mange this  !
Help please
Thank u


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