date:20021016

Re: (no subject)

2002-10-16 Thread Colin Watson


On Wed, Oct 16, 2002 at 12:59:15AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> okay,fix that later..started checking out the packages I installed and
> noticed that some of the dependencies were connected by
> convienience,rather than true dependencies,e.g. KDE in no way depends
> on koffice,how that got in,I have no clue,

The 'kde' package is a metapackage which installs a big chunk of KDE for
convenience. If the metapackage isn't for you, remove it, install
individual components, and be happy.

> installed kde from rpm without it,etc.

Do NOT EVER use 'rpm' to install packages on Debian. It'll break.

>Oh,well,lets remove that problem...read much much much documentation 
> on dpkg and apt-get, okay remove packages not needed.Hey 
> look,linuxlogo...maybe that'll spruce up the boot process...wait a minute,I 
> now need to run apt-get -f because these packages I removed wont let me 
> progess with my new package installs.

Yup, you forced it and it broke. Don't force it. The 'rpm --force
--nodeps' mindset is dead and you need to forget about it with Debian;
one of the reasons we take so long about releases is eradicating the
need for that sort of thing.

Cheers,

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Re: gdm, log in as root? - solution and new questions

2002-10-16 Thread Vineet Kumar


* Oki DZ ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [021015 22:40]:
> On Wed, Oct 16, 2002 at 11:00:33AM +0530, Sandip P Deshmukh wrote:
> > and yes, is there any method of changing the display manager? say from 
> > gdm to wdm to xdm to kdm etc?
> 
> I believe the program is called update-rc.d.
> (Assuming that apt-get doesn't remove any of the dm's when the new one
> gets installed.)

I think you mean update-alternatives. Try

update-alternatives --config x-window-manager

and/or

update-alternatives --config x-session-manager

good times,
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Can't set locale

2002-10-16 Thread Yildiz, Murat



Hi,
I get the warning "(null): can't set the locale; make sure $LC_* and $LANG
are correct" at the top of each man command.
I have only set "LC_ALL=de_DE", I tried LANG=C but it didn't help.
How to check if I have the German Locale installed?
thanks

Murat YILDIZ


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Re: Can't set locale

2002-10-16 Thread Colin Watson


On Wed, Oct 16, 2002 at 09:47:25AM +0200, Yildiz, Murat wrote:
> I get the warning "(null): can't set the locale; make sure $LC_* and $LANG
> are correct" at the top of each man command.
> I have only set "LC_ALL=de_DE", I tried LANG=C but it didn't help.
> How to check if I have the German Locale installed?

dpkg-reconfigure locales

Cheers,

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RE: gdm, log in as root?

2002-10-16 Thread Mike Kuhar


To be able to log into gdm as root, edit /etc/gdm/gdm.conf AllowRoot under
[security]:

AllowRoot=true

This allows you to login as root only from the console.  Since you're not
logging in over the network this isn't that great of a security risk. -mk

> -Original Message-
> From: Dale Hair [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 11:32 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: gdm, log in as root?
>
>
> On Tue, 2002-10-15 at 21:30, David Pastern wrote:
> > Mark said:
> >
> > Subject: RE: gdm, log in as root?
> >
> > understand that sudo or fakeroot would be an even better
> solution, as
> > sudo use is logged as security concerns.
> >
> > Dave : I know that Mark.  It more annoys me not having the
> ability there.
> > Even if I had it there i'd very rarely log on as root, but
> use fakeroot.
> > That's the common sense thing to do.  Sometimes
> though...since updating to
> > kde 3.0.3 I can't su to fakeroot and start applications...I
> get an Xlib
> > error message : can't send to server, no permissions.  Or
> something similar
> > to that.  I did a bit of research to that the other nite,
> but didn't find
> > much.  Was only a brief search.  I got the suspicion (after
> todays thread on
> > GDM) that I might need to reconfigure kdm to allow fake
> root.  I'll pursue
> > that path later.  In the meantime i've been lazy, and
> logging out and going
> > in as root to perform system maintenance etc.  Upgrading to
> gnome2 set esd
> > as the default sound daemon (even when logging onto kde)
> rather than oss.  I
> > haven't sat down and investigated yet how to change it
> back.  I had issues
> > on base install of woody getting audio to play when logged
> on as normal
> > user.  That fixed itself when i got kde 3 running, but
> gnome 2 just stuffed
> > that all up by setting esd as default.  And yes I added
> myself to audio
> > group, did chmod u+x on /dev/audio, /dev/cdrom, /dev/mixer,
> /dev/dsp I
> > had a play with gnome2 control panels etc but they are very
> unintuitive I
> > find.  I presume resetting default sound daemon back to oss
> will fix things
> > and return them to normal in kde. *fingers crossed*.
> >
> > Dave
>
> That's quite a rant.  Did you ever get gdm set to allow root login,
> there is an option in gdmconfig?
>
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Re: How to fetch packages without installing

2002-10-16 Thread Vineet Kumar


* Abdul Latip ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [021016 00:11]:
> Hello:
> 
> Is there a simple way to fetch packages without installing
> them? I.e., how to get the packages from the result of
>"dpkg --get-selections"

from apt-get(8):

   -d

   --download-only
  Download only; package files are only retrieved, not unpacked or
  installed.  Configuration Item: APT::Get::Download-Only.

See also the --print-uris option, which is handy in combination with
wget.

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RE: (no subject)

2002-10-16 Thread David Pastern


I'll leave the originating text below unaltered...

1.  I'm relatively new to linux and was new to Debian until 5 or 6 weeks ago
now and I got it going.  Sure I had a problem with X, but with a bit of
reading (and a minute amount of help from a friend on irc) I got it going.
No big deal.  

2.  I don't like the gui install for redhat.  It sucks.  Since I have used
redhat to some extent and can quite firmly comment on this point.  I also
used expert install (text mode).  It's quicker, and makes more sense to my
eyes.  That is a personal preference.

3.  What's wrong with bsd?  OK, so it doesn't come giftwrapped like redhat
or mandrake.  Big deal.  An old saying:  "all that glitters is not gold".
Think about it.

4.  Koffice (I think I understood you right here, your writing style was a
bit hard to comprehend at that point [i'm not having a slight at you here]
is part of the KDE desktop.  If you install kde you will get koffice.  Don't
believe me?  Check out mandrake 9 or Redhat 8.  I bet they have koffice
installed along with kde.  If in real doubt check out the kde website.  

5.  Don't knock apt.  Or dpkg.  They both shit on rpm.  I've used both, so I
feel I am able to make a valid statement there.  End of story. 

6.  Debian itself isn't hard to use.  Setting it up is more difficult than
say, Redhat, or Mandrake.  Yes linux in general could be easier to use in
some aspects - I have no argument with that comment, i've stated it
previously many times.  As i've found out, and so, it seems, many other
happy Debian users, the vast majority of linux users end up at some point of
time or other, making Debian home.  I will NOT change to another
distribution.  Debian feels right, it feels like home.  The users lists are
absolutely fantastic.  Even when I make an ass of myself sometimes (ok heaps
of times lol).  

7.  Snazzy?  mmm.  This isn't a beauty contest.  I don't give a rats arse
how snazzy it looks - as long as it works, is reliable and consistent.
Debian meets those requirements hands down.  I think everyone here will
agree with me on that point.  Looks mean nothing.  Again that adage, "all
that glitters, is not gold" springs to mind.  Do you want a fancy gui that
*ucks up consistently?  Or something more robust that works.  As it should.


8.  Debian.  Why did I end up choosing it as home?  mmm.  I wanted to learn
more about linux.  OK, I don't need to know the working innards absolutely
back to front (and nor do I wish to), but I will guaranteed learn more.
Redhat held my hand so tightly I couldn't really learn.  I've learnt more
from Debian in 6 weeks than Redhat on and off since (non serious usage I
might add) since Redhat 5.2.  

9.  Idiot proof?  Well, i'm an idiot and i'm doing ok with it.  Sure I need
some help from time to time, but i'm managing ok.  If I can handle Debian
then anyone can.  

10.  I apologise to the other users subscribed to this list for my rant ;-) 

Dave

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, 16 October 2002 2:59 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; David Pastern
Subject: (no subject)


 
   Not to start any flames or ask any specific questions,I would just 
like to post an experience I had with debian (my first and only one).
   I usually use a redhat based product,not redhat anymore,as they seem 
to have money driven issues,so now mostly mandrake.But some people I know 
said,hey try debian,its better,faster and it rocks.Well this went on for a 
good long while,and one day while having some issues with my mandrake and
its 
lack of wanting to upgrade the distro online,I said screw it and pointed the

old browser at linux central and picked up the latest debian release
(woody).
   First off the text install was pretty retro,compared to what Im used 
to,but I said hey,a no frills kind of deal,lets see how it turns out.Got it 
installed,luckily Ive done a number of linux based installs,because its not 
very newbie friendly.Rebooted,and first thing I noticed is that it went to 
the old lilo text boot: prompt.Well that wont do,but seems easy enough to 
fix,hit enter and watched the boot info scroll by.Thought to myself ,wow it 
looks like some BSD just crapped across the screen...okay,fix that 
later..started checking out the packages I installed and noticed that some
of 
the dependencies were connected by convienience,rather than true 
dependencies,e.g. KDE in no way depends on koffice,how that got in,I have no

clue,built kde from source without it,installed kde from rpm without it,etc.
   Oh,well,lets remove that problem...read much much much documentation 
on dpkg and apt-get, okay remove packages not needed.Hey 
look,linuxlogo...maybe that'll spruce up the boot process...wait a minute,I 
now need to run apt-get -f because these packages I removed wont let me 
progess with my new package installs.Damn.
Link lilo boot.b to boot-menu.b,run lilo -v ,reboot.Now have updating logo 
scrolling amongst the bsd-looking boot

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Re: problem with \n and variables in bash script

2002-10-16 Thread Iñaki Martínez


Hi!!!

 Thank you both...


 Colin,

Quote correctly. Also, you can probably drop the -e.

  echo "$SALIDA"


 really i feel no words.. :-(



> > So my question is how to get \n processed with variables.
> 
> You need to set the IFS variable. Read 'man bash'. Just put 
> 
> IFS=' \t' 
> 
> at the front of your script. (no need for the -e switch to echo then)


 Well, this solves the "\n" problem but if the out has TABs they are
cut and the out is diferent, i do not understand very well what do that
variable (IFS)


 Any way, i drop -e and put quotes...



 Thanks



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Re: Where are the keys defined in X-windows?

2002-10-16 Thread Bob Proulx


Larry Alkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-10-15 16:38:43 -0500]:
> I would like to change some X-windows keys,
> especially the END and HOME keys which do not work at present.

They work fine for me.

> I do not wish to run the executable xmodmap - I want to edit the data file.

xmodmap is the program that you will use to load new keymaps.  So the
anser is yes, you want to run the xmodmap program.

> I changed /etc/inputrc but that didn't work.

That is a bash specific file to configure bash libreadline
capabilities.  It would not change the behavior of other programs.

Run the xkeycaps program.  That program is a gui to help you create a
configuration file which can then be loaded with xmodmap.

  apt-cache show xkeycaps
  apt-get install xkeycaps

Bob



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Re: using exim for simple mail delivery

2002-10-16 Thread Jens Grivolla


Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Tue, Oct 15, 2002 at 04:15:21PM +0200, Jens Grivolla wrote:
> > Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 01:50:17PM +0100, Pat Colbeck wrote:
> > > > "|IFS=' ' && exec /usr/bin/procmail || exit 75 #fredsmith"
> > > 
> > > Good to do it explicitly, but Exim will automatically deliver using
> > > procmail if you have a ~/.procmailrc
> > 
> > The explanation was for fetchmail, not exim.
> 
> I was under the impression that the suggestion was:
> POP3 server->local fetchmail->local exim->local procmail->spool

Yes, I misunderstood you there, the .forward file is in fact
unnecessary.

Ciao,
   Jens



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Re: CFLAGS ?

2002-10-16 Thread Klaus Imgrund

On Tue, 15 Oct 2002 20:53:59 -0400
"Robert L. Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> 
> I have an old env variable:
> 
> CFLAGS="-O -mcpu=k6"
> 
> My system is now an Intel P4.  Anyone know what would be "ideal" mcpu
> for a P4?
> 
> 
> :wq!
> -
> -- Robert L. Harris
>

Hello,

You can try to head over to gentoo and do a search on their forum.
There is a lot of threads and info about settings for CFLAGS.
The gcc website is also helpful.
What you use is ultimately your decision.If you tweak settings too much
things might not work as expected anymore.

Prost,

Klaus

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Re: Starting X on second screen

2002-10-16 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen


On Wed, Oct 16, 2002 at 01:31:48PM +1000, Russell wrote:
> Tom Cook wrote:

[snip]

> > In this line, I have recently (this morning) discovered the joys of
> > x2x to link two X displays.  I have two p2/333s on my desk, and until
> > today I had two keyboards and mice, too.  Now I'm writing this on one
> > display from the keyboard and mouse of the other - cool!  Now I need a
> > few more boxen...
> 
> That's easy if both your boxes are linux;)

On linux: apt-get install x2vnc
On "the other OS": hunt for vnc, download, run {setup,install}.exe, pray
and consider rebooting.

Same functionality as x2x, and allows you to control the other box
from the linux box.

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Re: Automating IMAP email maintenance

2002-10-16 Thread Andy Saxena

On Fri, Oct 11, 2002 at 07:28:49AM -0700, Dave Carrigan wrote:
> Cyrus doesn't use maildir. It uses something that kinda looks like
> maildir. Regular users can't even read the files in the Cyrus mail
> spool. 

This is precisely the reason why I was asking the question in the first
place. I was hoping for some cyrus utility. Apparently, there is none.

Does anybody know what the mail format for Cyrus is called?

> 
> Worse, running a non-cyrus-aware program on a Cyrus mail spool is a Very
> Bad Idea unless you understand Cyrus administration well enough to know
> how to fix the bullet hole in your foot.

In retrospect, it may have been a bad idea for me to go with Cyrus
instead of Courier. It's just that I don't understand the restrictions
on Courier's setup - it didn't sound too "Free Software" friendly.

-Andy

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/etc/network/*.d

2002-10-16 Thread Jerome BENOIT


May be I have to rephrase my question ?

I notice that Woody introduced in the directory `etc/network'
four subdirectories:
`if-down.d', `if-pre-up.d', `if-post-down.d' and `if-up.d'

Because there are not mentioned in the man page,
I guess there are installed by Debian:
what is the corresponding policy ?

Thanks,
Jerome

Russell wrote:
> Jerome BENOIT wrote:
> 
>>Hi All !
>>
>>Is there any documentation about the usage of the (new)
>>subdirectories in `/etc/network' ?
> 
> 
> man interfaces
> 
> 



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Re: IRC

2002-10-16 Thread Paul Johnson


On Tue, Oct 15, 2002 at 09:25:05PM +0100, john gennard wrote:
> I'd like to try using IRC. There seems a wide variety of programs 
> available and I wonder what is the one most commonly chosen
> by list members. I'm running Woody.

ircii seems pretty standard from what I've seen.  I use it myself.

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Re: Automating IMAP email maintenance

2002-10-16 Thread Andy Saxena


On Fri, Oct 11, 2002 at 09:23:01AM -0500, Mark Roach wrote:
> 
> The package description doesn't mention it, but the version of archivemail
> in SID has IMAP support.
> 

Thanks to all those who suggested archivemail. It is exactly what I was
looking for.

-Andy


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Source code

2002-10-16 Thread sdownes


I feel I am missing something simple here but...

I need the source code for a few standard bits Kernel & PCMCIA bits to 
compile a driver for a PCMCIA card. I would expect to find it on the 
Debian site but can't.

Can anybody tell me where it is 

(Deb Testing 2.4 kernel)

Steve


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Re: IRC

2002-10-16 Thread Jean-Marc V. Liotier


On Wed, 2002-10-16 at 11:34, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 15, 2002 at 09:25:05PM +0100, john gennard wrote:
> > I'd like to try using IRC. There seems a wide variety of programs 
> > available and I wonder what is the one most commonly chosen
> > by list members. I'm running Woody.
> 
> ircii seems pretty standard from what I've seen.  I use it myself.

If you prefer GUI you may try kvirc. I'm a former mIRC user and kvirc is
what I found most convenient to my taste.




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Re: Where are the keys defined in X-windows?

2002-10-16 Thread Tom Cook

On  0, Bob Proulx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Run the xkeycaps program.  That program is a gui to help you create a
> configuration file which can then be loaded with xmodmap.

And which you would then automate the loading of by putting this in
~/.xsession:

xmodmap 

Tom
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Re: Source code

2002-10-16 Thread Tom Cook


On  0, sdownes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I feel I am missing something simple here but...  
> 
> I need the source code for a few standard bits Kernel & PCMCIA bits to 
> compile a driver for a PCMCIA card. I would expect to find it on the 
> Debian site but can't.
> 
> Can anybody tell me where it is 
> 
> (Deb Testing 2.4 kernel)

apt-get install kernel-pcmcia-modules-2.4.18-

You will need to be running the 2.4.18 kernel, of course.

If that doesn't tickle your fancy, then you can always:

apt-get source kernel-image-2.4.x-y

if you have something like:

deb-src ftp://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/debian testing main contrib non-free
deb-src ftp://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/debian-non-US testing/non-US main contrib non-free

in /etc/apt/sources.list.

Note that mirror.aarnet.edu.au is only available from inside
Australia, if you are elsewhere you will need to use another mirror.

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Re: using exim for simple mail delivery

2002-10-16 Thread David

On Tue, Oct 15, 2002 at 11:43:22AM -0500, Jamin W.Collins wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Oct 2002 15:39:18 +0100 Anthony Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
> > This seems very odd. I thought that Debian set up exim more or less by
> > default. 
> 
> It does, for _delivery_ of mail provided to it.  The OP was looking for a
> simple way to deliver and sort mail to local boxes for (presumably) an
> account hosted externally. While exim could be invloved in the solution,
> it would not be the simpliest solution.  As the system is not normally
> connected to the net, the MX server for the account in question would
> probably be at an ISP (or something else remote).  Thus, mail would first
> have to be fetched in some way (fetchmail), then passed on to exim, and
> finally sorted on delivery (procmail/maildrop).  The addition of exim only
> increases the complexity of the solution as you can very easily pass the
> messages retrieved via fetchmail directly to your filtering/sorting
> application (procmail/maildrop).  So, why involve exim?

But exim _does_ sort mail.  I use it to do this ( see a previous post of
mine in this thread).  In the end, the various debian- groups to which I
subscribe are sorted into their respective files, as is exim-user, and
spam mail is sent to its own file.  procmail is never involved.

As to why involve exim?  You need an MTA installed for cron, etc,
anyway, so it may as well be exim..  And, although I've never tried to
set up fetchmail, some have said it was a wee bit more complicated than
exim, dunno about that..

The only thing I've wondered is if procmail might be a bit less resource
hungry.. My system is not that fast and not a lot of RAM, and after
introducing Spamassassin, it cannot process say, 100 messages coming in
at one time.. but I just have it process 50 on dload and queue the rest,
and this seems to work.

Anyway, AFAICT, my setup is working.

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Re: gui c/c++ programming

2002-10-16 Thread Gregory Seidman


Sean 'Shaleh' Perry sez:
[...]
} I have one problem with QT -- it is all or nothing.  Not only do you
} get a UI you also get QTs equivalent of the STL.  This means that you
} are learning an API which is only good for QT programming.

Gah! If I had to give up the STL to use Qt I'd give up C++ entirely. I
use Qt for my GUI, and the STL for my data structures. On the
(astonishingly rare) occasions when I have to use a Qt data structure,
it is never in an inner loop (you simply don't have performance-critical
stuff that directly interacts with the user) so I just copy it to an STL
structure first (or vice versa, as the case may be).

My biggest gripe with Qt, actually, is that its generated code can't
handle typedefs or using. If I have a slot taking an object of
type foo::Bar::Baz and, in class foo::Bar, have a signal sending a Baz,
they can't be connected. They have to be string identical, rather than
merely the same type. Yes, I understand why. Yes, I know this is much of
what libsigc++ attempts to solve. Yes, I know it is unlikely to get any
better in Qt. I can still gripe.

[...]
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Palm m125 on woody

2002-10-16 Thread Xavier Sanz


Does anyone have a m125 attached to a usb port card?
I have problems with it...
It should ve detected at /dev/ttyUSBx??

Any idea?
Thanks
Best regards.
Xavier



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Re: php not working

2002-10-16 Thread James Hughes


On Wed, Oct 16, 2002 at 12:08:25PM +1000, Rob Weir wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 15, 2002 at 03:52:00PM -0400, Matt Price wrote:
> > hey htere everyone,
> > 
> > trying to get php4 installed on my woody server and don't seem to have
> > it figured out right.  I've downloaded a package (SPIP) that runs on
> > php3; I have php4 installed; when I try to load page
> > (http://pc09.hist.utoronto.ca/~matt/spip/ecrire/index.php3) in my
> > browser, it always wants to download it, and if it opens the page, all
> > I see is the sourcecode.  Do I need to use php3 instead?  
> 
> I think you just need to edit your /etc/apache/httpd.conf file and
> uncomment this line:
> AddType application/x-httpd-php3 .php3

Also, maybe try uncommenting this line:

 LoadModule php4_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/libphp4.so

> 
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Re: mail server of a sorts

2002-10-16 Thread Justin Ryan



> I'm guessing that I'll need to run either a POP3 or IMAP server on Box
> 001 in order for the 3 clients - ward, wally and beaver - to be able to
> retrieve their mail.  Is this correct?  And if so, could you please
> recommend a good yet lightweight mail client, as Box 001 only has about
> 1 gig of free space (it's an old Sparc with small hard drives).

install uw-imapd, create accounts on box 001 for each user, and set up
/etc/fetchmailrc to stick mail for each remote user into each local
user's mailbox (removing teh need for fetchmail to separate users' mail
out - though it can still put it in pretty imap folders :))

that should be all there is to it..  I have a similar set up on my
personal mail server to grab mail out of my work email (pop account). I
use imap so that I can read mail from both/any accounts from anywhere
(imap client, squirrelmail/web, etc..).

Cheers!

-Justin



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Apache / SUEXEC on woody...

2002-10-16 Thread Justin Ryan


Heya all..

I'm having trouble with Apache/SUEXEC on my woody system..  I have some
vhosts that need to run their own cgi scripts.  This all works fine,
until I add User/Group directives into the VirtualHost configuration.

I have a ScriptAlias directive and Options +ExecCGI on the directory's
options (have also tried with only one of each, instead of both).  The
files are owned by the user/group that I am trying to have them run as,
but I get the following error in suexec.log:

[2002-10-14 01:29:28]: info: (target/actual) uid: (justin/justin) gid:
(justin/justin) cmd: index.py
[2002-10-14 01:29:28]: error: command not in docroot
(/site.com/cgi-bin/index.py)

The DocumentRoot in this case would be /site.com/www/, and the
ScriptAlias /site.com/cgi-bin/.

Any help would be much appreciated! :)

-Justin




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pcmcia install on IBM laptop

2002-10-16 Thread Kevin Coyner



I'm installing stable onto an IBM 560X from a FD boot and then FTP.

Most of the install has been uneventful, but getting the PCMCIA to work
(and then networking so as to FTP install) has been problematic.

I'm using a Xircom CreditCard CEM56-100 (ether 10/100 + modem56) as my
pcmcia card.

During the install, in the "Configure PCMCIA Support" section, it asks
whether my pcmcia controller is i82365 or tcic:  I presume i82365.

It next asks for Controller Options, which I leave blank.  Same for Core
Options and Card Manager Options.  I suspect somewhere in here I need to
input an option or two, but I've search google hi and lo but haven't
found the magic answer yet.

If I complete the Configure PCMCIA section, I get 3 hi pitched beeps and
then a return to the regular install menu.

If I proceed to "Configure the Network" and input appropriate numbers,
etc, and then try to install the Base System, I eventually get the error
msg "The service was unavailable or contained no release file" when I
try to connect to a Debian server to complete an FTP install.

Would sure appreciate any pointers.  

Thanks
Kevin

PS:  lsmod shows the following:

serial_cs  0 (unused)
xirc2ps_cs 0 (unused)
ds 2 [serial_cs xirc2ps_cs]
i82365 2
pcmcia_core0 [serial_cs xirc2ps_cs ds i82365]

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RE: window-managers don't find their X-fonts

2002-10-16 Thread Hans Musil


Hi,

my problem was solved by installing the package xfonts-base-transcoded.

Hans


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Re: window-managers don't find their fonts

2002-10-16 Thread Hans Musil


Hi,

my problem was solved by installing the package xfonts-base-transcoded. 
Anyway, thank you for helping.

Hans


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Re: Apache / SUEXEC on woody...

2002-10-16 Thread Justin Ryan


> Not sure, but I think you should arrange all vhosts under the docroot of
> the main server.
> 
> Extract from suexec docs:
> 
> For security and efficiency reasons, all suexec requests must remain
> within either a top-level document root for virtual host requests, or
> one top-level personal document root for userdir requests. For example,
> if you have four VirtualHosts configured, you would need to structure
> all of your VHosts' document roots off of one main Apache document
> hierarchy to take advantage of suEXEC for VirtualHosts. (Example
> forthcoming.) 
> 

I suspected as much - but this seems insecure, as all sites must be in a
world-readable location..

while on the subject, does User/Group only control suexec, or does
apache take on that user's identity when accessing files?

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Re: CFLAGS ?

2002-10-16 Thread Robert L. Harris




I'm just compiling an app on my "unstable" box and realized I had
forgotten to change that setting when I swapped boxes about 4 months
ago.

It may be out-dated in which case oh well but if there's a good P3/P4
optimization for some apps such as winex or some other source downloads  
it'd be good to know.

Thus spake Klaus Imgrund ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

> Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 05:47:59 -0200
> From: Klaus Imgrund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: CFLAGS ?
> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.7.4claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-debian-linux-gnu)
> X-Mailing-List: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> archive/latest/239210
> 
> On Tue, 15 Oct 2002 20:53:59 -0400
> "Robert L. Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > 
> > I have an old env variable:
> > 
> > CFLAGS="-O -mcpu=k6"
> > 
> > My system is now an Intel P4.  Anyone know what would be "ideal" mcpu
> > for a P4?
> > 
> > 
> > :wq!
> > -
> > -- Robert L. Harris
> >
> 
> Hello,
>  
> You can try to head over to gentoo and do a search on their forum.
> There is a lot of threads and info about settings for CFLAGS.
> The gcc website is also helpful.
> What you use is ultimately your decision.If you tweak settings too much
> things might not work as expected anymore.
> 
> Prost,
> 
> Klaus
> 
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xdm configuration files

2002-10-16 Thread Eduardo Gargiulo


Hi all.

I'd removed xdm, updated sources.list and re-installed xdm. The problem
is that 'apt-get install xdm' only install binaries, but not
configuration files. /etc/X11/xdm is empty. How can I force apt to
install configuration files of xdm? I'm running debian/stable.

TIA

-ejg


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Re: What services are using these ports?

2002-10-16 Thread Edward Guldemond


On Wed, Oct 16, 2002 at 12:58:57AM -0500, Jason Pepas wrote:
> if you don't need it:
> 
> # update-inetd --disable time
> 
> run nmap again to verify it is disabled.
> 

Note that you have to restart inetd after this.

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Re: xdm configuration files

2002-10-16 Thread Jesus Climent


On Wed, Oct 16, 2002 at 03:05:47PM -0300, Eduardo Gargiulo wrote:
> Hi all.
> 
> I'd removed xdm, updated sources.list and re-installed xdm. The problem
> is that 'apt-get install xdm' only install binaries, but not
> configuration files. /etc/X11/xdm is empty. How can I force apt to
> install configuration files of xdm? I'm running debian/stable.

dpkg --purge xdm

and reinstallation should do the trick.

J

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mutt - segmentation fault

2002-10-16 Thread Johann Spies


On Sarge:

zsh % dpkg -l 'mutt*'
+++-==-==-
ii  mutt   1.4.0-4Text-based mailreader supporting
MIME, GPG,
un  mutt-i  (no description available)
pn  mutt-ja (no description available)
pn  muttprint   (no description available)
un  muttzilla   (no description available)

>From my .muttrc:

set folder=/home/js/Maildir
set mbox_type=Maildir
set record="+sent-mail-`date +%Y-%m`"
fcc-hook . "=/sent-mail/`date +%Y%m`"
save-hook . "+/argief/%(%Y%m)-%F-%s"
-

Now my problem:

If I want to go to mailbox =argief/ and read mail from e.g. 200209
I get a segmentation fault when scrolling down the list.  I even get a
segmentation fault when I type in c (for change mailbox)
=argief/200209[tab] to get the list narrowed down to 200209* 

Did anybody experience something similar?

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Re: GPM acts funny

2002-10-16 Thread Andre Berger



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* Larry Alkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 2002-10-15 22:15 -0400:
> Forgive me for posting this on two lists but there seems
> to be a lot more activity in debian-users.
> I'm using Libranet 2.7 and have a strange problem.
>=20
> I can start and stop gpm from the command line with
> gpm -m /dev/mouse -t imps2 =20
> and  gpm -k
>=20
> However when I try to start and stop gpm from /etc/init.d
> using /etc/init.d/gpm start or stop as root,
> the gpm program hangs up until I move the mouse.
> Then it reports:
>=20
> init.d/gpm:  /dev/mouse:  Permission denied
> Starting mouse interface server: gpm.
>=20
> It then works.
>=20
> Similarly when I boot up or shut down - it hangs in exactly the same way.
>=20
> In /dev mouse is soft linked to /dev/psaux with permission crw--- wit=
h owner root.
>=20
> In /etc/init.d/gpm I added to the cmdln as follows:
> cmdln=3D-m  /dev/mouse  -t  imps2
> which is the same as I use with no problems in the command line.

Here's what I have:

andre@mir:~$ ls -l /dev/gpmctl=20
srwxrwxrwx1 root root0 11. Okt 17:43 /dev/gpmctl
andre@mir:~$ ls -l /dev/gpmdata=20
prw-r--r--1 root root0 16. Okt 08:45 /dev/gpmdata
andre@mir:~$ ls -l /dev/psaux  =20
crw---1 root root  10,   1 11. Okt 17:43 /dev/psaux

andre@mir:~$ cat /etc/gpm.conf | grep -v "#"=20

device=3D/dev/psaux
responsiveness=3D
repeat_type=3Draw
type=3Dimps2=20
append=3D" -A180 -2 "=20
sample_rate=3D


and in /etc/X11/XF86Config:

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Configured Mouse"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "CorePointer"
Option  "Device""/dev/gpmdata"
Option  "Protocol"  "IMPS/2"=20
Option "Emulate3Buttons"   "true"=20
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"=20
EndSection


However I sometimes have to restart gpm twice when X is running,
don't know why.

-Andre

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Re: Project organizer and time-tracking software?

2002-10-16 Thread Johann Spies


On Tue, Oct 15, 2002 at 11:02:32AM -0500, Kirk Strauser wrote:
> I'm looking for some software to keep track of open projects, and
> the time I've spent working on each.  I need to be able to track
> multiple clients and multiple projects per client, and easily search
> for projects that are not completed, have been invoiced but haven't
> paid yet, etc.  I tried using PHPGroupware, but it just wasn't quite
> up to par as of a month or so ago (although certainly far better
> than nothing).
> 
> I don't care if the app is Gnome, KDE, PHP/mod_perl, or Emacs based,
> as long as it works.  Any suggestions?

I have not used it yet but you may look at mrproject:

Description: A Project Management Application for GNOME
 MrProject is a project management program that can help build project
 plans, and track the progress of a project.

Regards.
Johann
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Re: mutt - segmentation fault

2002-10-16 Thread Gottfried Szing



> Did anybody experience something similar?

i am also using the latest mutt and i have no problem. maybe you can try
strace to identify the problem. try to run a 

$ strace -f -o mutt.log mutt 

and take a look at the last few lines where the segfault happens.

HTH

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Re: xdm configuration files

2002-10-16 Thread Colin Watson


On Wed, Oct 16, 2002 at 03:05:47PM -0300, Eduardo Gargiulo wrote:
> I'd removed xdm, updated sources.list and re-installed xdm. The problem
> is that 'apt-get install xdm' only install binaries, but not
> configuration files. /etc/X11/xdm is empty. How can I force apt to
> install configuration files of xdm? I'm running debian/stable.

Use the --force-confmiss option to dpkg.

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Re: using exim for simple mail delivery

2002-10-16 Thread Jens Grivolla


David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> As to why involve exim?  You need an MTA installed for cron, etc,
> anyway, so it may as well be exim..  And, although I've never tried to
> set up fetchmail, some have said it was a wee bit more complicated than
> exim, dunno about that..

Are you saying you use exim without fetchmail on a dial-up system?
That rather surprises me.

Ciao,
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Re: CFLAGS ?

2002-10-16 Thread Rob Weir

On Tue, Oct 15, 2002 at 08:53:59PM -0400, Robert L. Harris wrote:
> CFLAGS="-O -mcpu=k6"

If you're bothering to optimise, at least crank it up a little:)  Why
not -O2 or even -O3?

> My system is now an Intel P4.  Anyone know what would be "ideal" mcpu
> for a P4?

AFAIK, GCC 2.95.4 (the current default compiler in woody, sarge and sid)
doesn't know about anything past PentiumPro's, so I guess
-mcpu=pentiumpro would be the way to go.  Sid will switch to GCC 3.2
(which knows how to optimise for more recent chips) Real Soon Now(TM).
3.2 seems to optimise better even without the arch-specific options (or
so I've been told), so it'll be good to have around in general.

In the meantime, you could install GCC 3.2 and use it compile C programs
specially; read the documentation for how to optimise for P4s.
Compiling C++ programs with GCC 3.2, of course, won't work because the
C++ ABI has changed yet again, but you'll discover that if you try :)

-rob

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Re: pcmcia install on IBM laptop

2002-10-16 Thread Mark Zimmerman


On Wed, Oct 16, 2002 at 08:12:31AM -0400, Kevin Coyner wrote:
> 
> I'm installing stable onto an IBM 560X from a FD boot and then FTP.
> 
> Most of the install has been uneventful, but getting the PCMCIA to work
> (and then networking so as to FTP install) has been problematic.
> 
> I'm using a Xircom CreditCard CEM56-100 (ether 10/100 + modem56) as my
> pcmcia card.
> 
> During the install, in the "Configure PCMCIA Support" section, it asks
> whether my pcmcia controller is i82365 or tcic:  I presume i82365.
> 
> It next asks for Controller Options, which I leave blank.  Same for Core
> Options and Card Manager Options.  I suspect somewhere in here I need to
> input an option or two, but I've search google hi and lo but haven't
> found the magic answer yet.
> 

Except for the card (I have a 3com with ethernet only) my setup is the
same as yours. I never specified any options and I never had any
trouble. I suspect that there must be some trick to working with a
combination ethernet/modem card.

One of the other VTs (#3 I think) has log messages. Maybe there is a
clue there.

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Simple HTTP Server Recommendation

2002-10-16 Thread Doug MacFarlane



Team:

I need to put up a simple, HTML-only site.  No database/CGI/anything.

Apache looks like overkill.  

Can you recommend a nice, compact, efficient alternative?

TIA

madmac

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Re: Simple HTTP Server Recommendation

2002-10-16 Thread Jeff


Doug MacFarlane, 2002-Oct-16 14:41 +:
> 
> Team:
> 
> I need to put up a simple, HTML-only site.  No database/CGI/anything.
> 
> Apache looks like overkill.  
> 
> Can you recommend a nice, compact, efficient alternative?
> 
> TIA
> 
> madmac

I use apache for HTML-only.  It may be overkill, but it runs
out-of-the-box and the configuration is pretty easy.  Also, it's so
widely supported that I don't have to go far to find answers to my
questions.  Also, if you decide later to use a database/cgi/anything,
it's a simple matter of installing the module for that purpose and you
don't have to go learn a whole new platform to do it.

my 2 cents,
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Re: Mounting Problem

2002-10-16 Thread Jerry Van Brimmer


On Wed, 2002-10-16 at 00:24, Q. Gong wrote:
> Did you try mounting when the drive was cool? How about trying mount after
> a reboot? I encountered the same as you. I couldn't mount just after
> recording. Then switched to windows to verify the CD. It was OK. Then back
> to Linux. It became OK. I don't know the exact reason. Need more tests.

This is interesting. Windows Me cannot read my suspect disk in either
the Que or the Plextor drive.

But, in Woody, the Plextor CAN see, mount and read the suspect disk.
But, I cannot mount it in the Que drive. Why not ?

I'm very bummed, because this means that my old IDE Plextor can support
some CDRW feature that my new Que drive doesn't support. Could it be
that the Que USB2.0 drive is connected to a USB 1 port? The drive is
backward compatible, so I would think that shouldn't be a problem.

> 
> Good luck,
> 
> Qian
> 
> PS: I use cdrdao.
> 
> On 15 Oct 2002, Jerry Van Brimmer wrote:
> 
> > I have a Que! USB CDRW drive connected to my machine. I wrote some files
> > on a CDRW disk in it with Gcombust. Now, I cannot mount that same disk
> > in the Que drive. But, if I move the disk to my Plextor IDE CDRW drive,
> > which is hdc in my machine, I can mount and view the disk. Below is the
> > xterm listing of what I get:
> >
> >
> > jerry@debian:~$ su
> > Password:
> >
> > debian:/home/jerry# mount -t iso9660 /dev/scd0 /mnt/que
> > mount: block device /dev/scd0 is write-protected, mounting read-only
> > mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/scd0,
> >or too many mounted file systems
> >
> > debian:/home/jerry# mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom2
> > mount: block device /dev/hdc is write-protected, mounting read-only
> > debian:/home/jerry#
> >
> > Anybody know why this is?
> >
> > I am running Woody with the 2.4.18-bf2.4 kernel
> >
> > Thanks



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Re: Simple HTTP Server Recommendation

2002-10-16 Thread Claudio Bley


On Wed, 2002-10-16 at 16:41, Doug MacFarlane wrote:
> 
> Team:
> 
> I need to put up a simple, HTML-only site.  No database/CGI/anything.
> 
> Apache looks like overkill.  
> 
> Can you recommend a nice, compact, efficient alternative?

I'm using thttpd. It's secure, simple to configure and its memory
footprint is very small. It would even do CGI if you want.

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Strange problem with Mozilla/xpdf

2002-10-16 Thread Victor Munoz



  Probably this would be a better question for a Mozilla or xpdf user
list, but maybe someone here has a clue.

  I have woody installed, and Mozilla, xpdf packages from the standard
release. 

  I'm uploading to my web site a series of pdf files, chapter from a book
I'm writing. I'm replacing some of the chapters with newer versions. To
see if everything is right, I open mozilla and click on the links to see
if they download the correct versions. Of eight chapters, named cap1A.pdf,
... cap8A.pdf, everything is Ok, except for cap1A.pdf and
cap8A.pdf. Mozilla opens
xpdf to view the files, and for some reason, instead of the new version
pointed at by the link, it opens a local version, named /tmp/cap1A-7.pdf,
which is the old version (renamed by Mozilla probably, because all
versions were always named cap1A.pdf), so I cannot read the new version
with the browser. Instead, I have to download the file and see it locally
(with either xpdf or acroread). Likewise with cap8A.pdf, where a local
version /tmp/cap8A-1.pdf is opened. There are several pdf files in /tmp,
with today's date, so they were probably generated during the various test
downloads I've done, but it's definitely strange that 2 out of 8 files
were selected to show a strange behaviour (all lines in the html code are
the same, so there should be no problem there). 
  Anyway, I closed Mozilla, the /tmp/*.pdf files disappeared, and when I
started again the new versions were always downloaded.

  Comments?

  Thanks in advance,
Victor



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Re: Mounting Problem - fstab

2002-10-16 Thread Jerry Van Brimmer


On Tue, 2002-10-15 at 21:51, Alvin Oga wrote:
> 
> hi ya jerry
> 
> yup... from a quickie glance, your pc/kernel should have
> usb support... but i'm not 100% sure,  since i always use
> usb compiled into the kernel
> 
> On 15 Oct 2002, Jerry Van Brimmer wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 2002-10-15 at 21:24, Alvin Oga wrote:
> > > 
> > > hi ya
> > > 
> > > what is the contents of /etc/fstab for /dev/scd0  and /dev/hdc
> > 
> > /dev/hdc/mnt/cdrom2 iso9660 user,noauto 0 0
> > /dev/scd0   /mnt/queiso9660 user,noauto 0 0
> 
> try the following as root... ( su - root )
> 
> /dev/hdc  /mnt/cdrom2 iso9660 noauto,owner,ro   0 0
> /dev/scd0 /mnt/queiso9660 noauto,owner,ro   0 0

This had the same results.

> 
> 
> root# mount /mnt/que

This command didn't work. Must use 
# mount -t iso9660 -o ro /dev/scd0 /mnt/que 

Which still results in:
debian:~# mount -t iso9660 -o ro /dev/scd0 /mnt/que
mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/scd0,
   or too many mounted file systems


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spamassassin + exim

2002-10-16 Thread Hamish Moffatt



Can anyone recommend a good way to integrate spamassassin with exim?

I tried the instructions at 
http://dman.ddts.net/~dman/config_docs/exim3_spamassassin.html
to use it as a transport filter, but I just "unexpected EOF during smtp"
type errors from the spawned exim.

I set up an awful kludge in my .forward but I would prefer something
better integrated with exim. I need it to work with amavis as well,
though.. amavis has some built-in hooks for spamassassin but there's
hints in the amavis config file that they don't work.

Also, spamassassin's default rules seem to contain a non-functional rbl,
as every delivery takes 30 seconds while it times out. :-(

Hamish
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Re: spamassassin + exim

2002-10-16 Thread Kevin Coyner



On Thu, Oct 17, 2002 at 12:52:56AM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote..

> 
> Can anyone recommend a good way to integrate spamassassin with exim?
>

apt-get install procmail.  Then, in your ~/.procmail/rc.recipe file,
make sure you have something like:

## filter all mail through SpamAssassin ##
:0 fw
| spamassassin -P

:0 e
EXITCODE==$?

:0:
* ^X-Spam-Flag: YES
$HOME/mail/spam/

**

That should do it.

HTH.

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Re: Project organizer and time-tracking software?

2002-10-16 Thread Kirk Strauser



At 2002-10-16T13:06:35Z, Johann Spies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I have not used it yet but you may look at mrproject:

It seems reasonable for its purpose, which seems to be planning exactly one
project.  I'm still in shock that no open source program seems to exist to
plan many projects for many clients.
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Re: Project organizer and time-tracking software?

2002-10-16 Thread Jamin W . Collins


On 16 Oct 2002 10:06:17 -0500 Kirk Strauser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> It seems reasonable for its purpose, which seems to be planning exactly
> one project.  I'm still in shock that no open source program seems to
> exist to plan many projects for many clients.

I believe I metioned it before, but that is what Tutos does. 


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Anyone using Debian for Graphic Design or CAD?

2002-10-16 Thread Wathen, Metherion


Hello All,
It is my desire to set up my home debian system for use as a Graphic Design/
Illustration workstation, I was wondering if anyone in this group is
currently using debian/linux for graphics; and what their setup was. Maybe
they could offer a few pointers on what software is available (open source
or proprietary) for Linux. Also interested in hearing from people who are
using Debian/Linux for CAD work, in particular architecture.

thanks in advance for your replies.

mw


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nvidia drivers

2002-10-16 Thread Gianfranco Berardi


I downloaded the newest drivers from nvidia and installed them.
As far as I can see, it runs fine. I have a Woody system with the 2.4.18 
kernel.
Recently I tried to add USB support, but borked my system.
I think I have everything working. About the only thing that wasn't 
working was the nvidia drivers.
Should I have apt-get installed them instead? Will there be problems 
with using something that was not packaged for Debian? Or does using the 
newer drivers have no effect other than getting the coolest special 
effects (Quake 3 Arena never looked so nice!).
Thanks,
Gianfranco


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Error installing Debian 3.0

2002-10-16 Thread Ivens Porto


Hello,

I'm trying to install Debian 3.0 but the kernel locks up during
installation.

The machine is an AMD Athlon MP 2000, with an Asus A7M266-D motherboard
and chipset AMD 760MPX.

When I try to install using kernel 2.4, I boot the instalation with the
bf24 kernel, the kernel locks with the message:

APIC error on CPU0: 04(04)


When I try the default kernel, 2.2 series, the installation is
successfull, but I can't configure my network card, 3COM 905C Tornado.
When I try to load the driver it always try to use interrupt 0. The same
thing happens when I try a Realtek 8139 network card. Also, I need a 2.4
series kernel in this machine.

I tried other distributions (Red Hat 7.2 and Conectiva 8.0) just to see
how it would go, but the same problem happens.

Searching the Internet I found lots of messages in mailing lists of
people with the same lockup problem, but I haven't found any solution. 

I tried to boot the kernel with parameters noapic and reboot=bios, but
they didn't work.

So I would like to ask if anyone has successfully installed Debian 3.0
on the same hardware configuration that I have or, if anyone knows how
to solve the problems I'm having.


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Evolution and VNC

2002-10-16 Thread Sven Heinicke



VNC is working great but some programs, Evolution being the main one,
gets a little messed up with fonts.  In some text areas there is a box
between every character, making it nearly impossible to read.

I kinda like it in emacs, as I can actually see my nobreak spaces, but
reading mail headers and the "Summary" page is unreadable.

  Sven



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Re: spamassassin + exim

2002-10-16 Thread Gottfried Szing

On Wed, 2002-10-16 at 16:59, Kevin Coyner wrote:

> apt-get install procmail.  Then, in your ~/.procmail/rc.recipe file,
> make sure you have something like:
> 
> ## filter all mail through SpamAssassin ##
> :0 fw
> | spamassassin -P

i would suggest to replace the spamassassin with spamc/spamd. spamd is a
daemon which runs in the background and spamc controls the daemon.

the reason is that a mail flood kills the server because the perl-script
is causing the server to run at a very high load. in my case about 30-40
concurrently received mails killed the server or made him at least not
available for a while.

after moving to spamc/spamd everything works fine. and no problems with
an higher mail traffic.

cu

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expired gpg keys

2002-10-16 Thread martin f krafft


i regularly get mails alerting me of my expired GPG key. but i have
a new (sub-)key uploaded to the keyservers since the day the old
expired. now i do realize that everyone who obtained my key from the
keyservers last year has that one stored, and GPG doesn't re-get a key
from the keyservers if it's in the local keyring already.

but i can't be the only one, and this has to be solved. why doesn't
gpg try to see if there's a new version of an expired key on the
keyserver before complaining that it's expired?

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Re: Evolution and VNC

2002-10-16 Thread Jamin W . Collins


On 16 Oct 2002 11:20:05 -0400 Sven Heinicke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> VNC is working great but some programs, Evolution being the main one,
> gets a little messed up with fonts.  In some text areas there is a box
> between every character, making it nearly impossible to read.

This is a problem with the font being used for that portion of the display
and VNC.  Try a few different font combinations and you should find one
that works.

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lprng won't print

2002-10-16 Thread Rick Pasotto


Running debian sid.

Using lprngtool I've setup a local printer (/dev/lp0) accessible as
client and server.

The 'configuration validation' under 'tests' reports no errors.
The 'print ascii dircectly to printer port' works correctly.
However, both 'print ascii' and 'print postscript' generate this error:

Error printing test page to queue lp@tc
Error reason: Status Information:
 sending job 'root@tc+773' to lp@tc
 connecting to 'tc', attempt 1
 connected to 'tc'
 requesting printer lp@tc
 job 'root@tc+773' transfer to lp@tc failed
  error 'NONZERO RFC1179 ERROR CODE FROM SERVER' with ack 'ACK_STOP_Q'
  sending str '^Blp' to lp@tc
 error msg: 'no connect permissions'


What do I have wrong?

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Re: nvidia drivers

2002-10-16 Thread Bijan Soleymani

Gianfranco Berardi wrote:

> I downloaded the newest drivers from nvidia and installed them.
> As far as I can see, it runs fine. I have a Woody system with the 
> 2.4.18 kernel.
> Recently I tried to add USB support, but borked my system.
> I think I have everything working. About the only thing that wasn't 
> working was the nvidia drivers.
> Should I have apt-get installed them instead? Will there be problems 
> with using something that was not packaged for Debian? Or does using 
> the newer drivers have no effect other than getting the coolest 
> special effects (Quake 3 Arena never looked so nice!).
> Thanks,
> Gianfranco
>
>
It won't make much of a difference for the nvidia drivers.

The debian package for the drivers only include the source, which you would
need to compile in exactly the same way.

Usually using a program that isn't a debian package shouldn't be a problem.
The only difference is that you have to configure everything by hand (like
you have to do with slackware (well they have rpm now, but still...)).

Bijan

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Re: kernel need to be reconfigured for Zip drive ?

2002-10-16 Thread German Garcia


On Tue, Oct 15, 2002 at 04:01:37PM -0400, ThanhVu Nguyen wrote:
> Hello, I just bought a Zip 100 IDE drive.  I am running kernel 2.4.19
> with scsi emulation support for cdrom.  Just wondering if I need to turn
> on any options to have it support the Zip drive.  
> 
> dmesg says the zip is under hdd  ,  I tried mount -t vfat  -l /dev/hdd4
> and mount -t vfat  -l /dev/hdd  have these messages 
I have a similar configuration (zip drive in hdd, and scsi emulation)
add this to the boot command line:
hdd=ide-floppy
(this is to avoid the ide-scsi emulation reclaim the zip drive)
and use hdd4 to mount the drive (e.g. mount /dev/hdd4 /zip)
HTH

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Re: Error installing Debian 3.0

2002-10-16 Thread Bijan Soleymani

Ivens Porto wrote:

>
>When I try the default kernel, 2.2 series, the installation is
>successfull, but I can't configure my network card, 3COM 905C Tornado.
>
>  
>

You could install with the 2.2 kernel, and then upgrade your kernel to 
2.4(either with a kernel-image or by building kernel-source). This would 
require the cds, since your network card isn't working.

Another workaround (if you don't have the cds) is to use one of those 
bootable linux cds (one that supports your network card), such as 
demolinux, and mount the drive you want to install debian on, and 
download the kernel image you want onto it.

Then after install run dpkg -i nameofkernelimage.deb
to install the kernel you want.

Bijan

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Re: The only thing I miss about Windows

2002-10-16 Thread Doug MacFarlane

On 12 Oct 2002, 16:38:15, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 12, 2002 at 04:30:22PM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote:
> > I am sure Baloo meant a "rogue" IT staff member.  :-) And rogue is
> > probably the best way to learn the classic vi keystrokes.  :-)
> 
> Yes, I meant rogue.  Also, if it weren't for rogue(6), about the only
> thing I'd know about vi(1) is you hit escape until it beeps, then type
> :q! to get out of it...

Wow - if I had known there was a way to learn vi, I'd never have kept track
of my old Unix SysAdmins, who I call for help (and get caught up with) whenever I get 
into a jam and I have
to use vi . . . . .

vi is the strongest piece of evidence that Unix was first developed as a
joke . . . . 

madmac

> 
> --=20
> Baloo
> 

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Mozilla and VNC (was: Evolution and VNC)

2002-10-16 Thread Vincent Lefevre


On Wed, Oct 16, 2002 at 11:20:05 -0400, Sven Heinicke wrote:
> VNC is working great but some programs, Evolution being the main one,
> gets a little messed up with fonts.  In some text areas there is a box
> between every character, making it nearly impossible to read.

Could you tell me if VNC works with Mozilla on the following page?

  http://www.mozilla.org/projects/mathml/demo/basics.xhtml

The problem seems to come from MathML, and perhaps fonts used for
MathML. But I couldn't find anyone having the same problem as me.
More than a font-only problem, it seems to be a redraw problem.
More information at:

  http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=147704

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URL forwarding

2002-10-16 Thread Sebastiaan


Hi,

I think this is a pretty simple question, but I have not found any usefull
information on the internet until now.

My current situation is that I own a domain, say mydomain.com, and that I
have a webpage on a fast webserver, say www.myweb.com/~mypage/.

What I would like to do is that www.mydomain.com becomes an equivalent for
www.myweb.com/~mypage/.

It is not possible to handle this with DNS (at least, I have not succeeded
until now). I run the DNS server my own, and if needed I can run a HTTP
server too.

I think this is easily done with Apache. Does anyone have any hints for
this problem?

Thanks in advance,
Sebastiaan



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Reply to "Whinge"

2002-10-16 Thread RavynNiteshade

I'd like to thank most of the list members for their constructive replies to my message.I'd also like to clear up a few misconceptions that may have been inferred or misappropriately assumed.I'd also like to apologize to the list for the lack of subject line,as it was late when I composed that message.I'd also like to thank Paul for his happy "we'll agree to disagree" message.Nice to see everyone didn't take it personally:)
   First,I never implied there should be an X-based boot-logo or even that specifically of a penguin.I currently recieve a nice splash that says welcome in 40+ languages.Yes,it's not the be-all end-all of what a boot should look like,but its a start.It also does this whether I have an X-server installed or not(I believe this particular one is implemented through a kernel framebuffer).Just something for consideration.
   Secondly,I'm not gunning for a GUI installer,as I do most of my installs via a text installer also,however, I do have the option of a GUI interface to install,(keyword:option).
   Furthermore,as far as the BSD-looking init:Yes I like to see the little green okays as my services start.Granted,they are no more informative than the ...done displayed with debian,but surely I'm not the first to mention that,as theres a long thread on debian-boot to show I'm not(which I'm not sure anything came of that but here's to hoping).
   About the kde thing: yep,I forced it,and it broke.On the up side it attempted to fix itself,which I agree rpm isnt ever likely to do.On the down side,the package lists at debian.org say the meta-package kde is responsible for the koffice dependency. I have yet to find this dependency generated by another distro,and as a matter of fact,its listed as a "nice"option under mandrake.The kde.org website itself lists koffice as a "complement to KDE".
   Also,to clarify my position,I never said anything along of "this distro sucks,Ill never use it again" I offerred constructive criticisms based on what I observed on my one and only install.I'll probably get around to trying it again,and asking for help on issues here,but until then I've only offered my opinions,good and bad,about this distro.
 
(aol...o boy, yeah well its the only box I had left that didnt have an extensive amount of mailing list threads already going into it,it is also web accessible from my linux box,and I currently dont pay for it,so it suits me fine)

Specifically addressed to Mr.Cook:

I can't see where the "whinge" as you put it came into play,I made observations...the sky is blue,the desert is relatively hot compared to the north pole,etc.
I have whines if you'd likedebian doesnt make my coffee,it doesnt automagically configure itself to my box unattended,my truck doesnt get 100 miles to the gallon with debian cds in my JVC...etc,etc
   I was attracted to the distro after reading the article "Is Debian losing its mindshare?"(currently running on debianplanet.org),hoping that I could add my 2 cents to improve the situation,as Id hate to see any distro fail or fall by the wayside(except maybe redhat,which is my own personal vendetta with their tech support people).
   I wholeheartedly support a drive to be unique or different(as I sit in Microsoft's backyard on my linux box)but I also support the right to make suggestions,whether implemented or not.Not specifically saying there must be a boot logo or a redhat style or or style init,but maybe the option for one is not beyond the scope of reality.

>My reaction is perhaps a bit hostile.  But you seem to completely miss
>the point of what computers are for.  They are a productivity tool,
>not something to look pretty on your desk (despite the efforts of
>Apple).  
 
My turn to return that hostility...I'd hate to think that computers were specifically a productivity tool,that would suck.I'd also hate to think that we might not be having
this discussion,had a couple of programmers stuck to their jobs and not created a game for their mainframe,whereby starting a chain of events leading to the present day.

>I personally hope your comments are ignored completely by the
>developers, because if they listen to you then Debian will end up just
>like all the other distros; slow, difficult, unstable and pretty.

I personally hope that the developers aren't as closed-minded as you are making yourself appear,and at least take my suggestions as exactly that,suggestions, or atleast optional adjustments that can be selected.After all,I think its more likely 
 that new debian users will come from other distros(such as myself),rather than coming straight to debian.And following that logic,it would seem that the more popular the distro,the more developers it would be likely to attract,although,I could way off base here.Overall I agree with most of what was put forth in the article,and my ideas are still just suggestions. Or at the very least,fuel for more flames.

Thanks again for your time,
C

Re: pcmcia install on IBM laptop

2002-10-16 Thread Kevin Coyner




On Wed, Oct 16, 2002 at 07:26:01AM -0600, Mark Zimmerman wrote..
> > 
> > I'm using a Xircom CreditCard CEM56-100 (ether 10/100 + modem56) as my
> > pcmcia card.
> 
> Except for the card (I have a 3com with ethernet only) my setup is the
> same as yours. I never specified any options and I never had any
> trouble. I suspect that there must be some trick to working with a
> combination ethernet/modem card.
> 
> One of the other VTs (#3 I think) has log messages. Maybe there is a
> clue there.
>

Didn't know about that VT #3 tip, which is a good one.  Here's what's in
my log right before I get stopped:

daemon.info.cardmgr[606]: executing 'modprobe xirc2ps_cs'
daemon.info.cardmgr[606]: executing 'modprobe serial_cs'
daemon.info.cardmgr[606]: executing './network start eth0'
daemon.info.cardmgr[606]: +cat: /var/lib/misc/pcmcia-scheme:
  no such file or directory
daemon.info.cardmgr[606]: executing './serial start ttyS3'
daemon.info.cardmgr[606]: +cat: /var/lib/misc/pcmcia-scheme:
  no such file or directory
user.info.dbootstrap[272]: wget: http.us.debian.org: Host name
   lookup failure
user.err.dbootstrap[272]: The server was unavailable or contained 
  no release file

So it's obviously looking for the pcmcia-scheme file, and not finding
it.  Wonder where you get one of those files ...

Kevin

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Re: nvidia drivers

2002-10-16 Thread Kenneth Macdonald Karlsen


On Wed, 2002-10-16 at 17:16, Gianfranco Berardi wrote:
> I downloaded the newest drivers from nvidia and installed them.
> As far as I can see, it runs fine. I have a Woody system with the 2.4.18 
> kernel.
> Recently I tried to add USB support, but borked my system.
> I think I have everything working. About the only thing that wasn't 
> working was the nvidia drivers.
> Should I have apt-get installed them instead? Will there be problems 
> with using something that was not packaged for Debian? Or does using the 
> newer drivers have no effect other than getting the coolest special 
> effects (Quake 3 Arena never looked so nice!).
> Thanks,
> Gianfranco
> 
If you changed the kernel you need to remake and install the drivers
again. The commercial driver has never failed me. I would never concider
using the free ones. Opengl support is much much better with the
commercial ones.
Kenneth


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Re: The only thing I miss about Windows

2002-10-16 Thread Kenneth Macdonald Karlsen


On Wed, 2002-10-16 at 18:28, Doug MacFarlane wrote:
> On 12 Oct 2002, 16:38:15, Paul Johnson wrote:
> > On Sat, Oct 12, 2002 at 04:30:22PM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote:
> > > I am sure Baloo meant a "rogue" IT staff member.  :-) And rogue is
> > > probably the best way to learn the classic vi keystrokes.  :-)
> > 
> > Yes, I meant rogue.  Also, if it weren't for rogue(6), about the only
> > thing I'd know about vi(1) is you hit escape until it beeps, then type
> > :q! to get out of it...
> 
> Wow - if I had known there was a way to learn vi, I'd never have kept track
> of my old Unix SysAdmins, who I call for help (and get caught up with) whenever I 
>get into a jam and I have
> to use vi . . . . .
> 

1 Apt-get install vim
2 then type vimtutor.
Repat 2 until no longer needed.
Kenneth

> vi is the strongest piece of evidence that Unix was first developed as a
> joke . . . . 
> 
> madmac
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > --=20
> > Baloo
> > 
> 
> 
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Re: Mozilla and Java Plugin

2002-10-16 Thread bob parker


On Wed, 16 Oct 2002 06:15, Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote:
> On Tuesday 15 October 2002 20:30, Shawn Lamson wrote:
> > i just download the j2re bin from java.sun.com and unpack it to a
> > "random" directory - say /usr/share/j2re1.4.1 or something... the way
> > to link it to mozilla/netscape is by going to the
> > /usr/local/mozilla/plugins directory and doing
> > $ln -s /usr/share/j2re1.4.1/plugin/i386/ns610/libjavaplugin_oji.so
> > 
>
> I did something similar five minutes ago:
> First, for sources.list:
> # Java from Blackdown
> deb ftp://sunsite.dk/mirrors/java-linux/debian woody main non-free
>
> Then
> apt-get update
> apt-get install j2sdk1.3 j2re1.3 j2se-common
>
> Finally
> cd /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
> ln -s /usr/lib/j2re1.3/lib/i386/libjavaplugin_jni.so
>
> I don't know if this is the right plugin, though, as I said, I did this a
> few minutes ago, and I haven't tested... :-) (I installed Java for work on
> my server, not the client... :-) )
>
> Kjetil


Thanks for the tips on this.
I am trying out the Blackdown link for now, I'm on dialup so it's going to 
take an hour or so to download. If that doesn't do the trick I'll try the 
jabber method.
Many thaks to all who replied

Bob Parker


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Re: Project organizer and time-tracking software?

2002-10-16 Thread Matthew Weier O'Phinney


-- Kirk Strauser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
(on Wednesday, 16 October 2002, 10:06 AM -0500):
> 
> At 2002-10-16T13:06:35Z, Johann Spies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > I have not used it yet but you may look at mrproject:
> 
> It seems reasonable for its purpose, which seems to be planning exactly one
> project.  I'm still in shock that no open source program seems to exist to
> plan many projects for many clients.
Actually, I've seen a bunch, 90% of which are all web-based. You should
go to freshmeat (freshmeat.net) and search for "groupware" -- you'll
find a number of such items, many of which are also available via apt.
I've tried a number of different ones, but because I haven't had the
time or inclination to really learn any given one, they've all ended up
being more difficult than just placing stuff in flat-files. I'm sure any
number of them will work, though.

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Re: nvidia drivers

2002-10-16 Thread Robert L. Harris




I agree here.  When I build a kernel I:

install kernel
reboot off new kernel
log in a root
cd /usr/src/NVidia/nvidia*glx*
  make install
cd /usr/src/NVidia/nvidia*kernel*
  make install

and it's good to go.  That simple

Thus spake Kenneth Macdonald Karlsen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

> Subject: Re: nvidia drivers
> From: Kenneth Macdonald Karlsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: debian-user <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.5 
> Date: 16 Oct 2002 18:19:02 +0200
> X-Mailing-List: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> archive/latest/239270
> 
> On Wed, 2002-10-16 at 17:16, Gianfranco Berardi wrote:
> > I downloaded the newest drivers from nvidia and installed them.
> > As far as I can see, it runs fine. I have a Woody system with the 2.4.18 
> > kernel.
> > Recently I tried to add USB support, but borked my system.
> > I think I have everything working. About the only thing that wasn't 
> > working was the nvidia drivers.
> > Should I have apt-get installed them instead? Will there be problems 
> > with using something that was not packaged for Debian? Or does using the 
> > newer drivers have no effect other than getting the coolest special 
> > effects (Quake 3 Arena never looked so nice!).
> > Thanks,
> > Gianfranco
> > 
> If you changed the kernel you need to remake and install the drivers
> again. The commercial driver has never failed me. I would never concider
> using the free ones. Opengl support is much much better with the
> commercial ones.
> Kenneth
> 
> 
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RE: URL forwarding

2002-10-16 Thread Price, Erik




> -Original Message-
> From: Sebastiaan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 12:14 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: URL forwarding

> My current situation is that I own a domain, say 
> mydomain.com, and that I
> have a webpage on a fast webserver, say www.myweb.com/~mypage/.
> 
> What I would like to do is that www.mydomain.com becomes an 
> equivalent for
> www.myweb.com/~mypage/.
> 
> It is not possible to handle this with DNS (at least, I have 
> not succeeded
> until now). I run the DNS server my own, and if needed I can 
> run a HTTP
> server too.
> 
> I think this is easily done with Apache. Does anyone have any 
> hints for
> this problem?

Yes, using the mod_rewrite module that can be DSO'd into the web server.  Read all 
about it here:

 


Erik


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Re: Strange problem with Mozilla/xpdf

2002-10-16 Thread Matthew Weier O'Phinney


-- Victor Munoz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
(on Wednesday, 16 October 2002, 11:33 AM -0300):
>   I'm uploading to my web site a series of pdf files, chapter from a book
> I'm writing. I'm replacing some of the chapters with newer versions. To
> see if everything is right, I open mozilla and click on the links to see
> if they download the correct versions. Of eight chapters, named cap1A.pdf,
> ... cap8A.pdf, everything is Ok, except for cap1A.pdf and
> cap8A.pdf. Mozilla opens
> xpdf to view the files, and for some reason, instead of the new version
> pointed at by the link, it opens a local version, named /tmp/cap1A-7.pdf,
> which is the old version (renamed by Mozilla probably, because all
> versions were always named cap1A.pdf), so I cannot read the new version
> with the browser. 

>   Anyway, I closed Mozilla, the /tmp/*.pdf files disappeared, and when I
> started again the new versions were always downloaded.
Mozilla is caching the downloads. You should go into the preferences and
elect to erase the disk cache, which will remove these files while
Mozilla continues to run.

I've found that even when I ask Mozilla (or Galeon, or Netscape) to
check for a new version every time, I still run into glitches like this
on occasion. 99% of the time, deleting the disk cache solves those
problems; the other 1% require restarting the browser.

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3.0:Switching Video Card Drivers

2002-10-16 Thread geno


What is the easiest way to change the video card driver (to a different one 
on the disks) on an installed system?

Thanks.

geno



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Re: IRC

2002-10-16 Thread Patrick Lane


I use ScrollZ myself. I used to use BitchX, but a BSD buddy got me to
try out ScrollZ a couple years ago. At first I struggled with it, being
so used to BitchX, but now I struggle with BitchX being so used to
ScrollZ =)

It's all preference and what you know

--Patrick

On Wed, 2002-10-16 at 02:34, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 15, 2002 at 09:25:05PM +0100, john gennard wrote:
> > I'd like to try using IRC. There seems a wide variety of programs 
> > available and I wonder what is the one most commonly chosen
> > by list members. I'm running Woody.
> 
> ircii seems pretty standard from what I've seen.  I use it myself.
> 
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dwww man page display

2002-10-16 Thread Bob George


I have two systems running dwww with apache. On one, man pages display 
nicely, but on the other I get what appear to be ANSI codes for bold and 
other formatting. On the system with the broken display, I also 
installed man2html, and pages appear properly there. I've gone through 
and installed anything remotely sounding like text-to-html or similar, 
but am having no luck. Are there specific packages I should look for, 
other than those listed on the .deb page?

Thanks,

- Bob


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Re: using exim for simple mail delivery

2002-10-16 Thread David


On Wed, Oct 16, 2002 at 03:04:42PM +0200, Jens Grivolla wrote:
> David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > anyway, so it may as well be exim..  And, although I've never tried to
> > set up fetchmail, some have said it was a wee bit more complicated than
> > exim, dunno about that..
> 
> Are you saying you use exim without fetchmail on a dial-up system?
> That rather surprises me.

Oops..  should have been procmail..


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Re: URL forwarding

2002-10-16 Thread nate


Sebastiaan said:
> I think this is easily done with Apache. Does anyone have any hints for
> this problem?

this is easy, it's called virtual hosting


ServerAdmin webmaster@yourdomain
ServerName www.myweb.com
ServerAlias www
DocumentRoot /home/user/public_html


you can also do on the "main" server to redirect requests for ~mypage
to your domain:

RedirectMatch /~myuser(.*)\.*$ http://www.myweb.com

be sure to restart apache after updating the config:

apachectl configtest
(if it checks out then..)
apachectl restart

If you add more then 1 virtual host for each IP on your system you
need to add the directive

NameVirtualHost YOUR_IP_ADDRESS

above the virst  entry. you only need
1 instance of NameVirtualHost.

nate




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Re: DWL-650 Wireless PCMCIA Card

2002-10-16 Thread James Hughes

On Tue, Oct 15, 2002 at 07:10:16AM -0500, Jamin W. Collins wrote:
> 
> It may be that the system is trying to load the prism2_cs module to bring
> up the interface, which in turn trys to load the ds module, prior to
> pcmcia service being started. Do you have wlan0 in /etc/network/interfaces
> configured as auto?  If so, try removing the auto declaration.

Well, that does stop it from trying to load wlan0 with ds, but it
doesn't cause me to have a functioning wlan0 interface by the time we
get to the login prompt. 
The above conjecture is incorrect anyway, because prism2_cs is
successfully loaded *after* all the shenanigans with ds. 
Interestingly, running my trial-and-error script (pasted below if you
need a snicker) after removing the auto declaration doesn't work. So,
it only works after trying and failing to bring up wlan0 with
ds. (Maybe some necessary routing stuff gets set up via the auto
declaration, I don't know..)

Here's the script that gets it going: (wish I could ditch it :)

#!/bin/sh
#
# Set things up nice for wlan0.
#
sudo ifconfig eth0 down
sudo cp /etc/network/interfaces.static /etc/network/interfaces
sudo ifdown wlan0 >> /dev/null
sleep 1
sudo ifup wlan0 >> /dev/null

sudo cp /etc/network/interfaces.dhcp /etc/network/interfaces
sudo ifdown wlan0 >> /dev/null
sleep 1
sudo ifup wlan0 >> /dev/null

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Re: xdm configuration files

2002-10-16 Thread nate


Eduardo Gargiulo said:
> Hi all.
>
> I'd removed xdm, updated sources.list and re-installed xdm. The problem
> is that 'apt-get install xdm' only install binaries, but not
> configuration files. /etc/X11/xdm is empty. How can I force apt to
> install configuration files of xdm? I'm running debian/stable.

first purge the config files(back them up first if you want)

dpkg --purge xdm

then install xdm:

apt-get install xdm

perhaps you manually removed the config files after removing xdm?
by default the package system does not remove config files when you
remove the package, you need the option purge to remove all traces
of the package.

nate




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Re: Where are the keys defined in X-windows?

2002-10-16 Thread Larry Alkoff

After a lot of googling I found a wonderful article on handling "special" keys
in X-windows.  It's going to be my bible for re-mapping keys in X.

I include it here because others may find it useful.

Larry Alkoff N2LA

Re: Consistant Keyboard Configuration (was Re: Another packages wishlist)

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Subject: Re: Consistant Keyboard Configuration (was Re: Another packages wishlist)
From: Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 06:33:05 -0500
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Feb 29, 2000 at 06:56:53AM -0800
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On Tue, Feb 29, 2000 at 06:56:53AM -0800, Jim Lynch wrote:
> And I have a request too...
>
> At one point there was a group working on making the keyboard configuration
> of debian consistant between x and console. Does this group still function
> and contribute to debian?
>
> Slink was great for its keyboard configuration... potato is so far
> horrible and broken in some ways. Consistancy between console and
> X is badly broken, and no one seems to be talking about that.
>
> If anyone knows about this group or is/was working with them, could
> you point me to them? Or better yet, if they are inactive, can someone
> reactivate them?
>
> You can consider this a Request For Discussion to add consistancy wrt
> key mapping between x, console, telnet, ssh and as many other things
> as possible that would make sense to have consistant mapping, to
> the debian policy document.

This is because of two things:

1) Yann Dirson keeps horking the console-data package in new and exciting
   ways; one example is the release(s) that set your keymap to "azerty"
  regardless of what you told the dialogs.  I gather from certain people
 who have reason to know that Yann doesn't know how to use debconf
correctly.

2) There was a period of time where the xterm terminfo data in the
   ncurses-base package was badly out of sync with the xterm binary package.
  That was fixed weeks ago.

I have no power over console-data, so I can't help you there.

But if you think X is misunderstanding the keyboard, you should file a
bug...if and only if you have done your homework and can file a bug report
with useful information in it.

1) Install the xcontrib package and use the "xev" tool to determine what
keycodes and keysyms are being generated by the problematic keys.

2) If what xev says makes sense to you, and yet your X clients (xemacs,
xterm, what have you) are doing the wrong thing, this is NOT, repeat
NOT, a problem with the X server and its notion of your keyboard.  It's a
problem with the X client.  Skip to step

3) If what xev doesn't make sense, then the X server is confused about
your keyboard.  There are several things to check:

- Are you using XKB?  Most people should.  If you have "XkbDisable"
uncommented in the keyboard section of your /etc/X11/XF86Config,
you're not using XKB.

+ Do your XKB settings make sense?  Here are mine, which make
perfect sense for North American qwerty keyboard users:
XkbRules"xfree86"
XkbModel"pc104"
XkbLayout   "us"
(If you're not using a "Windows" keyboard, you can change the
"pc104" to "pc101").

+ Are you using /etc/X11/Xmodmap or $HOME/.Xmodmap to override what
XKB thinks about your keyboard?  If so, cut it out.  You should
only be using xmodmap stuff with XKB if you really know what you're
doing.

- If you're not using XKB, then you're relying on the console
keymap, which is often wrong for the reason given above.  At the
very least, you'll probably have to uncomment an appropriate piece
of the default /etc/X11/Xmodmap file to get the backspace and
delete keys working correctly.

4) You're having an X client problem.  How you address this depends on
the client.  A favorite gripe of people is xterm.  Unfortunately,
there are many places where things can go wrong with xterm.

- It can receive the wrong keysyms from the X server; to debug this,
go back to step 3, or even step 1.  All X clients will receive the
same keysyms from the server, so you can use xev to find out what
key events are being generated.

- xterm can be translating the key events into the wrong terminal
control sequences; this part is all about X resources.  The default
xterm X resources in /etc/X11/Xresources/xterm are known to work
for 3.3.6-4, there are only two; backspace generates ASCII 127 and
delete generates ESC [ 3 ~).  If you have stuff in any X dotfiles
in your home directory that look like the stuff in
/etc/X11/Xresources/xterm, you might be shooting yourself in the
foot.

- Whatever is running in the xterm (like the shell) can be getting
bogus information from the terminfo file for the terminal type that
xterm is using.  Make sure you're using the latest ncurses-base
package.  If you're not using TERM=xterm, make sure you understand
why.

- For some keys, due to frustrating histor

Re: 3.0:Switching Video Card Drivers

2002-10-16 Thread nate


geno said:
> What is the easiest way to change the video card driver (to a different
> one  on the disks) on an installed system?

if you know what driver you need the easiest and safest way is to
edit /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 and change the driver

(sample)
[..]
Section "Device"
Identifier  "Matrox"
Driver  "mga"
#VideoRam
# Insert Clocks lines here if appropriate
EndSection
[..]
(end sample)

change Driver from mga to something else.

If your not certain what driver you need you can check the X
documentation..

for Xfree86 4.1.0 which is in stable the docs are here:
http://www.xfree86.org/4.1.0/RELNOTES4.html#14

if changing drivers involves more then just literally changing the
driver(e.g. changing configuration) then I reccomend running one
of the tools for doing it.. e.g.

X -configure
anXious
xf86config
(etc..)

nate




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Re: Lite On 40x Burner

2002-10-16 Thread Michael Heironimus

On Tue, Oct 15, 2002 at 08:02:29PM -0400, Edward Guldemond wrote:
> Do you know if the LiteOn can do reliable Digital Audio Extraction?  How
> about DAO mode?  Raw writing mode?  As someone who burns about 30 discs

I can't speak specifically for the 40x, but VideoCD hobbyists absolutely
love the current Lite-On burners, and those are exactly the kinds of
things that they need to do. The Lite-Ons also seem to reliably support
overburning (within the constraints of the media) and 90/99min blanks.

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Re: dwww man page display

2002-10-16 Thread Colin Watson


On Wed, Oct 16, 2002 at 10:06:16AM -0700, Bob George wrote:
> I have two systems running dwww with apache. On one, man pages display 
> nicely, but on the other I get what appear to be ANSI codes for bold and 
> other formatting. On the system with the broken display, I also 
> installed man2html, and pages appear properly there. I've gone through 
> and installed anything remotely sounding like text-to-html or similar, 
> but am having no luck. Are there specific packages I should look for, 
> other than those listed on the .deb page?

Check that /etc/groff/man.local and /etc/groff/mdoc.local are in sync on
the two machines. You want the versions that look like this:

.\" This file is loaded after an-old.tmac.
.\" Put any local modifications to an-old.tmac here.
.
.if n \{\
.  \" Debian: Map \(oq to ' rather than ` in nroff mode for devices other
.  \" than utf8.
.  if !'\*[.T]'utf8' \
.tr \[oq]'
.
.  \" Debian: Disable the use of SGR (ANSI colour) escape sequences by
.  \" grotty.
.  if '\V[GROFF_SGR]'' \
.output x X tty: sgr 0
.
.  \" Debian: Map \- to the Unicode HYPHEN-MINUS character, to make
.  \" searching in man pages easier.
.  if '\*[.T]'utf8' \
.char \- \N'45'
.\}

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Re: Apache / SUEXEC on woody...

2002-10-16 Thread Jeremy C. Reed


On 16 Oct 2002, Justin Ryan wrote:

> [2002-10-14 01:29:28]: error: command not in docroot
> (/site.com/cgi-bin/index.py)
> 
> The DocumentRoot in this case would be /site.com/www/, and the
> ScriptAlias /site.com/cgi-bin/.

I believe that Debian's provided suexec should be built with docroot as
"/".

Anyways, you can use perl to modify the binary, something like:
 cp suexec suexec.save
 perl -pe 's/\/var\/www/\/\0\0\0\0\0\0\0/' suexec.save > suexec
 chmod 4555 suexec


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Re: spamassassin + exim

2002-10-16 Thread Kevin Coyner



On Wed, Oct 16, 2002 at 05:22:10PM +0200, Gottfried Szing wrote..

> On Wed, 2002-10-16 at 16:59, Kevin Coyner wrote:
> 
> > apt-get install procmail.  Then, in your ~/.procmail/rc.recipe file,
> > make sure you have something like:
> > 
> > ## filter all mail through SpamAssassin ##
> > :0 fw
> > | spamassassin -P
> 
> i would suggest to replace the spamassassin with spamc/spamd. spamd is a
> daemon which runs in the background and spamc controls the daemon.


If I run spamc/spamd, then would my procmail recipe simple be ...

## filter all mail through SpamAssassin ##
:0 fw
| spamassassin

Or something different?

Thanks
Kevin

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Printing with CUPS

2002-10-16 Thread John Lord


Hi,

Please CC to me thanks.

I have posted the following message on the debian-powerpc list but have 
had no answers as yet, any help folks?

I have installed CUPS from Testing and am trying to get my Epson Stylus 
Photo 700 to print with it. It is connected to the parellel port as 
normal, but is not found.  When I configure CUPS with the web i/f the 
location setting is localhost:port631, Class State is idle, accepting 
jobs, if I send a test page to the printer nothing happens
if I do: insmod parport_amiga, I get:
Using /lib/modules/2.4.4/kernel/drivers/parport/parport_amiga.o

In the admin part of the web i/f where you select the device, the parellel 
port is not shown, only Appsocket, http, ipp, LPD/LPR and serial port #1.

Konsole output below:-
chaos@Homer:~$ ls -l /dev/par*

crw-rw1 root lp 6,   0 Nov 22  2000 /dev/par0
crw-rw1 root lp 6,   1 Nov 22  2000 /dev/par1
crw-rw1 root lp 6,   2 Nov 22  2000 /dev/par2

Next thing to check?
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Re: Lite On 40x Burner

2002-10-16 Thread Edward Guldemond


On Wed, Oct 16, 2002 at 12:20:18PM -0500, Michael Heironimus wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 15, 2002 at 08:02:29PM -0400, Edward Guldemond wrote:
> > Do you know if the LiteOn can do reliable Digital Audio Extraction?  How
> > about DAO mode?  Raw writing mode?  As someone who burns about 30 discs
> 
> I can't speak specifically for the 40x, but VideoCD hobbyists absolutely
> love the current Lite-On burners, and those are exactly the kinds of
> things that they need to do. The Lite-Ons also seem to reliably support
> overburning (within the constraints of the media) and 90/99min blanks.

This was a thinly veiled disguise for advice on these drives because
mine is dying. :-)  Now that I know, I'll consider LiteOns, however, I
never burn my Video CDs over 1x and Super Video CDs over 4x for
compatibility reasons.

Happy to help,

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Re: 3.0:Switching Video Card Drivers

2002-10-16 Thread Scott Henson

On Wed, 2002-10-16 at 13:14, nate wrote:
> geno said:
> > What is the easiest way to change the video card driver (to a different
> > one  on the disks) on an installed system?
> 
> if you know what driver you need the easiest and safest way is to
> edit /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 and change the driver

NO

If you do it this way the next time you upgrade xfree86 your changes
will get over written.  It is safer to use the debconf interface to do
it.  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 as root should do the trick.  If
you want to edit XF86Config-4 by hand then answer no to the first
question(I believe) and have fun.  Otherwise, just answer the rest of
the questions and it will create a nice XF86Config-4 for you.  

-Scott

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Re: spamassassin + exim

2002-10-16 Thread Stephen Gran


This one time, at band camp, Kevin Coyner said:
> If I run spamc/spamd, then would my procmail recipe simple be ...
> 
> ## filter all mail through SpamAssassin ##
> :0 fw
> | spamassassin
> 
> Or something different?
> 
> Thanks
> Kevin

The site http://spamassassin.org/sitewide.html says to use 
:0 fw
| spamc

instead, as there's less overhead with spamc.

HTH,
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stopping kernel packet deny messages

2002-10-16 Thread Wookey


Hi people, 
This feels like a stupid question but I've failed to find the answer
anywhere, so here goes.

Summary - I run ipmasq and this means that loads of netbios (137 and 138)
packets which wander round the net cause 
Packet log: input DENY eth0 . messages
These bung up both my log files and (much more seriously) my console. As
they appear every minute or so it makes the console almost unuseable.

But I can't work out how to stop them appearing on the console.

I do know how to filter them out of my logcheck messages, so the fact that
they fill up my log files isn't really a problem.

Presumably where kernel messages go _ought_ to be controlled by
/etc/syslog.conf, but so far as I can see mine is configured not to send
any messages to the console, and kernel messages should go to
/var/log/kern.log

Is there something special about kernel printk messages like this which
means they are controlled by some other mechanism? 
Here is the /etc/syslog.conf file:
#  /etc/syslog.conf Configuration file for syslogd.
#
#   For more information see syslog.conf(5)
#   manpage.

#
# First some standard logfiles.  Log by facility.
#

auth,authpriv.* /var/log/auth.log
*.*;auth,authpriv.none  -/var/log/syslog
cron.*  /var/log/cron.log
daemon.*-/var/log/daemon.log
kern.*  -/var/log/kern.log
lpr.*   -/var/log/lpr.log
mail.*  -/var/log/mail.log
user.*  -/var/log/user.log
uucp.*  -/var/log/uucp.log

#
# Logging for the mail system. Split it up so that
# it is easy to write scripts to parse these files.
#
mail.info   -/var/log/mail.info
mail.warn   -/var/log/mail.warn
mail.err/var/log/mail.err

# Logging for INN news system
#
news.crit   /var/log/news/news.crit
news.err/var/log/news/news.err
news.notice -/var/log/news/news.notice

#
# Some `catch-all' logfiles.
#
*.=debug;\
auth,authpriv.none;\
news.none;mail.none -/var/log/debug
*.=info;*.=notice;*.=warn;\
auth,authpriv.none;\
cron,daemon.none;\
mail,news.none  -/var/log/messages

#
# Emergencies are sent to everybody logged in.
#
#*.emerg*
*.crit  @blackbox.aleph1.co.uk
#
# I like to have messages displayed on the console, but only on a virtual
# console I usually leave idle.
#
#daemon,mail.*;\
#   news.=crit;news.=err;news.=notice;\
#   *.=debug;*.=info;\
#   *.=notice;*.=warn   /dev/tty8

# The named pipe /dev/xconsole is for the `xconsole' utility.  To use it,
# you must invoke `xconsole' with the `-file' option:
# 
#$ xconsole -file /dev/xconsole [...]
#
# NOTE: adjust the list below, or you'll go crazy if you have a reasonably
#  busy site..
#
daemon.*;mail.*;\
news.crit;news.err;news.notice;\
*.=debug;*.=info;\
*.=notice;*.=warn   |/dev/xconsole




Background:
The netbios packets come from a wireless access point thing, that so far as
I can tell is too stupid to stop sending them to all and sundry.

I'm running Debian 3.0. When I had 2.2 they didn't appear on the console,
only in the logs, which was fine

Hope somebody can give me the relevant clue - this is slowly driving me
nuts.

(please cc: me - I'm not subscribed here, hope that's not deemed rude on
this list - there are only so many debian lists you can read in one day!)

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Re: spamassassin + exim

2002-10-16 Thread Jason Wojciechowski


Hello Kevin,

On Oct 16, Kevin Coyner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

|  If I run spamc/spamd, then would my procmail recipe simple be ...
| 
|  ## filter all mail through SpamAssassin ##
|  :0 fw
|  | spamassassin
| 
|  Or something different?

The following two blocks are my first recipes, using spamc/spamd:


:0fw
| spamc

:0:
* ^X-Spam-Flag: YES
spam
###

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Re: 3.0:Switching Video Card Drivers

2002-10-16 Thread nate


Scott Henson said:

> NO
>
> If you do it this way the next time you upgrade xfree86 your changes will
> get over written.  It is safer to use the debconf interface to do it.


I hope not.. I've been running woody for over a year and have gone
through several X upgrades, and the upgrades NEVER touched my config(which
is quite specific, I'd notice it in an instant if it got overwritten)

nate




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Re: Simple HTTP Server Recommendation

2002-10-16 Thread Jens Kubieziel


On Wed, Oct 16, 2002 at 02:41:55PM +, Doug MacFarlane wrote:
> I need to put up a simple, HTML-only site.  No database/CGI/anything.
> Apache looks like overkill.  
> Can you recommend a nice, compact, efficient alternative?

Try fnord. It small, secure and very fast. You can find it on
http://www.fefe.de

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what this errors means when i try to compile ibcs on woody

2002-10-16 Thread Listas


what this errors means when i try to compile ibcs on woody:

In file included from binfmt_coff.c:62:
../include/ibcs/ibcs.h:47: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype
binfmt_coff.c:135: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type
binfmt_coff.c: In function `load_object':
binfmt_coff.c:570: warning: implicit declaration of function 
`create_ibcs_tables'
binfmt_coff.c:753: `PF_PTRACED' undeclared (first use in this function)
binfmt_coff.c:753: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
binfmt_coff.c:753: for each function it appears in.)
binfmt_coff.c: In function `load_coff_library':
binfmt_coff.c:1032: warning: `status' might be used uninitialized in 
this function
make: *** [binfmt_coff.o] Error 1

Anyone can help me?

tks



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IMAP

2002-10-16 Thread Rob Clendenin


I currently am usinx XMail as a pop3 and smtp server.  I want to switch over
to IMAP but so far all my efforts have been thwarted..

I want to use virtual users and virtual domains so I thought I would use a
postfix/cyrus/mysql solution..  I have yet to get it working..  I get all
the packages and install them but can never get the imap client to autherize
anyone.

Does anyone have any suggestions? Or know of any good How-To's to get this
to work?


Thanks
Rob Clendenin




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