Re: 'ping -f' a Win98 box (was: Re: Collisions on lan using Linux versus Windows)

[Paul Johnson]

On Mon, Sep 16, 2002 at 10:36:47PM -0700, Jaye Inabnit ke6sls wrote:
> Guess it's time to try it on a win-xp box. . . .  

Doesn't seem to affect the one roommate I have that hasn't figured out
that Linux is good and good for them.  8:o)  He the Fisher Price
operating system...

ursine:/home/baloo# ping -f foxmajik6
PING foxmajik6.ursine.dyndns.org (192.168.0.16): 56 data bytes

--- foxmajik6.ursine.dyndns.org ping statistics ---
311303 packets transmitted, 311299 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max = 0.1/0.5/87.1 ms
ursine:/home/baloo# nmap -O foxmajik6

Starting nmap V. 3.00 ( www.insecure.org/nmap/ )
[snip]
Remote operating system guess: Windows 2000/XP/ME

Nmap run completed -- 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 1 second


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Re: No menus and weird field size in Openoffice

[Jean-Marc V. Liotier]

On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 06:29, lgeralds wrote:
> 
> I might have a cleaner solution than you posted to the newsgroup.
> 
> su
> cd /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType
> ln -s /usr/share/fonts/truetype/*.ttf ./
> 
> You don't even have to restart X to get ttfs and OO.org working.
> 
> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType had the correct fonts.* files. It was 
> missing the fonts.
> 
> Good luck.

Thanks. For now, the "dirty" solution works, but I post yours to
debian-users and debian-openoffice.




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Re: No menus and weird field size in Openoffice

[Jean-Marc V. Liotier]

On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 10:11, Larry Geralds wrote:
> Jean-Marc V. Liotier wrote:
> > On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 06:29, lgeralds wrote:
> > 
> >>I might have a cleaner solution than you posted to the newsgroup.
> >>
> >>su
> >>cd /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType
> >>ln -s /usr/share/fonts/truetype/*.ttf ./
> >>
> >>You don't even have to restart X to get ttfs and OO.org working.
> >>
> >>/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType had the correct fonts.* files. It was 
> >>missing the fonts.
> >>
> >>Good luck.
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks. For now, the "dirty" solution works, but I post yours to
> > debian-users and debian-openoffice.
> > 
> 
> After I sent you the message I found out that I was not accessing some 
> tt fonts I had, so for good measure I did the following while in 
> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType:
> 
> ttmkfdir > fonts.scale
> mkfontdir
> 
> /etc/init.d/xfs-xtt force-reload
> /etc/init.d/xfs restart

Thanks again, but try to post your findings to the lists instead of
sending them directly to me. This way, more people can benefit from
them.





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Re: Partition Scheme

[Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder]

On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 03:49, David Sanders wrote:
> I am installing Debian 3.0 Woody on a new machine with a 80GB hard drive and
> 512MB of RAM.  It will be used as a workstation.  I have read the
> installation manual, but still have questions about partitioning the disk.
> Minimum values are usually given, but no discussion of max or optimal sizes.
> The following are given in
> http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch-partitioning.en.html
> /   100MB
> /usr 500MB
> /home 100MB per user
> /var 300-500MB
> /tmp 20-50MB
> 
> What would be the appropriate and desirable scheme for an 80GB disk?

As you can see from the other posts, there's lots of options...

You say you'll use it as a personal workstation, so I would go for
simple:

 - swap: 1G or so
 - /home: as much as you need (dunno if you collect videos or what... I
don't, so I've a 90% free 10G /home).
 - /: 15G or so
 - leave the rest unpartitioned, so you can always rearrange things
later

I'd make swap the first (fastest!) partition (although you'll probably
rarely need it), followed by / and /home (/home adjacent to free space,
so you'll have no problems growing it if you trust partition editors.)

If you run into troubles with /, split of /var, this should give you a
bit breathing space. You may also want to split off /usr/local or /opt,
if you have some unpackaged software installed. Depending on the
software you're using, splitting off /tmp might also be a good idea. But
all this can be done with the system already installed, so no need to
worry, as long as you have free space to create partitions in.

I would strongly advise to have /home on a partition of its own: if you
ever happen to reinstall the system, or need to transfer data to another
computer, you can use whatever partition editor you want and just be
careful with the /home partition and you won't loose any data.

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Postgresql 7.1.X debian source Woody ?

[Jonas Persson]

Hi everyone, i have 
a problem finding postgresql 7.1.3 source as debian package. I looked in potato 

but there the 
version is 6.5.4. The reason why i want an older version is that the application 
i want to 
run against 
postgresql uses features which is changed in 7.2 and will make the application to not 
work
properly.
 
Help apreciated to 
find the postgresql 7.1.3 Debian package source. I assume there will be no 
problem to 
compile the thing on 
a woody box and get it working properly.
 
Best 
Regards
 
Jonas 
Persson
 
 
 
 

Re: imap

[Lucas Barbuto]

Hi Matthew,

On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 03:49:48PM +1000, Joyce, Matthew wrote:
> Out of the available Deb'd emailing solutions can anyone recommend a good
> SMTP-IMAP combo ?

I use Exim for SMTP and Courier-IMAP for IMAP.  With this combination,
you can make Exim deliver in Maildir format, then Courier can handle all
the IMAP functions.  I've heard some bad things about Courier sticking
too closely to an RFC that's got some faults, but I've never had a
problem with it.  HTH.

Regards,

Lucas


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Pentium 90 64 Mo in home network - what to do with it?

[Lacoste (Frisurf)]

Hei,

A friend of mine is going to have a broadband connection at home. He
already has a Pentium II 350 Mhz that he uses as desktop and server
running Red Hat. He uses the machine for some personal development and
wants to use it as a web/file server once he gets his broadband
connection at the end of the month. The Red Hat machine is in his
basement, and he will use it as a gateway for the laptop running WXP he
got from his work, so that he can surf from his apartment while hiding
geek stuff away from his computer unfriendly girl-friend :)

He managed to get hold on a pentium 90 with 64 Mo and a 3 Go Hard disks.
He is interested in loading Debian on it, but we don't have a perfect
use for it right now.

If he uses the new machine as file/web server, the small hard disk
capacity will limit it. He can limit its use for NAT/forewall etc.. and
use his current server as file/web server. But then he needs to have 
both machines on all the time.

We are trying to find a use for this machine. 
I had two ideas:
- backup/replicate of the server (in case)
- honey pot but I don't think he will be interested in it.

Any other idea?

Jerome


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kdmrc problem

[Ivo]

Okay, let me put this to simple words. Has anybody else ever lost the window
managers on the SessionTypes line in kdmrc on a regular basis? When I add a
new window manager to kdm's list, once in a while I get the default list back
and I have to re-enter it. What causes this?

Ivo


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Re: paper size not honored by man -t command

[Colin Watson]

On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 11:31:45AM +0800, Ridzwan Abdullah wrote:
> I have just installed a Debian 3.0 system and have discovered a
> perculiar thing. Whenever I print a manual page using the 'man -t
> subject | lpr' command I always get a printout fomatted for a US
> letter sized page although my /etc/papersize setting is set to A4
> and my printcap also specifies A4 size paper. During installation,
> I have always consistently specified A4 size whenever applicable
> and at no time specified US-Letter size. Does troff (used by the -t
> option) defaults to US-Letter or is there any other configuration
> files that I have missed?

troff in Debian 3.0 should honour /etc/papersize. If you have gs
installed, try 'man -t  | gs -sDEVICE=bbox -'. For A4, the last
two numbers on the BoundingBox lines should be close to 540 and 800; for
Letter they should be close to 540 and 750.

If that test passes, then you should probably look at your printing
configuration.

> BTW, I am using a postscript printer and use LPRng and apsfilter on
> my system. Although the manual page for lpr states that the -t
> option is obsoleted, I find its the only way I can get a nicely
> formatted printout of a man page - other methods results in a badly
> formatted one using the awful fixed courier font.

The -t option to lpr has pretty much nothing to do with the -t option to
man. The former specifies what lpr takes as input, while the latter
makes man call groff in a different way. The -t option to man isn't
obsolete.

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Re: sendmail -> exim -> how to send?

[Colin Watson]

On Mon, Sep 16, 2002 at 09:50:17PM -0700, david wright wrote:
> I'm new to debian and exim. I am used to sending mail
> via sendmail from the command line, i have tried to do
> this on my new debian installation and have not had
> success. 
> 
> I have read 'man exim' but did not really find the
> answer i sought, like:
> /usr/sbin/sendmail [EMAIL PROTECTED] < files.txt

exim provides a /usr/sbin/sendmail link. Just do what you're used to.

> Also am i able to connect to a pop-server via exim to
> retrieve mail or do i need fetchmail or something
> similiar.

exim only receives mail, so yes, you'll need a POP client of some
description. fetchmail is one such.

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Re: Encrypted Partition

[Pat Colbeck]

> This means you've the wrong password.
>
> Common reasons are different keyboard setups or differences in the key
> generation algorithms between SuSE's twofish and cryptoapi. Take a
> SuSE-Kernel and their version of losetup and type the password on the
> console, to verify the keymapping.

I rember one version of RedHat I used to have (4.2 ?) that defaulted to a 
SerboCroat keyboard or something like that during the install. It let you 
change the keyboard mapping later during the install but after you had 
entered the root password ! Made it interesting trying to work out what you 
had actually enetered for the password.

Pat

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Reiserfs quota patches - unresolved symbols

[George Karaolides]

Hi all,

I am trying to use the reiserfs quota patches (linked to from the
namesys.com download site) against 2.4.18.  I am patching the kernel
source from the debian kernel-source-2.4.18 package.

After compilation and installation I get unresolved symbols on depmod -a.

I have tried the usual stuff and re-compiling:  setting and unsetting the
kernel module versioning in the kernel configuration, linking
/usr/src/linux to the kernel source directory.  It didn't work.

Has anyone successfully patched, compiled and booted a 2.4.18 or 2.4.19
kernel with reiserfs quota support?

Best regards,

|   George Karaolides  Planitis Communications Ltd.,  |
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|   web:   www.planitis.net Nicosia CY 1065,  |
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Unidentified subject!

[Jesse Goldman]

Hi,

I'd like to upgrade my distribution with apt-get and I'm having a bit of
trouble getting it to work with our network http proxy server. I've looked
through the debian-user archive and, accordingly, have tried:

http_proxy="http://[hostname]:[port number]"
export http_proxy="http://[hostname]:[port number]"

before running dselect, but I still get the error:

Err http://http.us.debian.org stable/main Packages
Could not connect to [host] (IP address)
...


The network works fine (I can ssh to the http proxy if I want). Is there 
something else I need to do first? Thanks,

  Jesse Goldman


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Re: Need witnesses

[Russell Coker]

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On Tue, 17 Sep 2002 04:15, Bruce Perens wrote:
> Folks,
>
> Please download
>
> http://www.softwarechoice.org/download_files/Maccrisken.Letter.doc .
>
> Please be prepared to stand as witnesses when I expose some odd things in
> the file . If you run strings on the file, at the end are a few names that
> are not meant to be visible in the file. They are names, probably of other
> participants in the creation of the document - two people and an
> organization. I need witnesses that those contents were on their site and
> were not something I made up.

rjc@lyta:~/Desktop$ md5sum Maccrisken.Letter.doc
cc13acf991915d89c89438a9e4c1709a  Maccrisken.Letter.doc
rjc@lyta:~/Desktop$ strings Maccrisken.Letter.doc |tail
Normal.dot
Michael Wendy
Microsoft Word 9.0
Milken Institute
To the Editor:
Title
_PID_HLINKS
Microsoft Word Document
MSWordDoc
Word.Document.8
rjc@lyta:~/Desktop$


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Re: http_proxy

[Nick Hastings]

Hi,

* Jesse Goldman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [020917 19:45]:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'd like to upgrade my distribution with apt-get and I'm having a bit of
> trouble getting it to work with our network http proxy server. I've looked
> through the debian-user archive and, accordingly, have tried:
> 
> http_proxy="http://[hostname]:[port number]"
> export http_proxy="http://[hostname]:[port number]"

I think you need a / after the port number.

Also, if you use apt you can define your proxy in /etc/apt/apt.conf, 
with a line like:

Acquire::http::Proxy "http://proxymachine:/";;

Cheers,

Nick.

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Re: Need witnesses

[Karsten M. Self]

on Tue, Sep 17, 2002, Hubert Chan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > "Craig" == Craig Dickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> Craig> Not so much that it isn't supposed to, but that people don't
> Craig> always realize it does. MS Word files have a number of data
> Craig> fields that are visible in the file properties dialog, but people
> Craig> often don't look there. ...
> 
> OK, for the record, I loaded the file into MS Word 2000 (school computer
> -- not my own).  Here are the properties:
> 
> Title: To the Editor
> Author: Peter Passell
> Company: Milken Institute
> Created: September 5, 2002 3:10:00 PM (I'm in Eastern Daylight Time
> (-0400)).
> [The Modified: and Accessed: fields look like they're just taken from
> the file statistics.  I guess the Created: field is from the file data,
> since I just got the file.]
> Last saved by: Michael Wendy
> Revision number: 3
> Total editing time: 2 Minutes (Wow!  I wish I could write that fast!)
> 
> BTW, could anyone figure out what the guy's point was?  After I trimmed
> out all the fluff, all I could get was "Don't listen to Bruce because
> he's going to make you use Open Source."  None of the stuff seems to be
> well reasoned either.

So we're all on the same cryptographically checksummed page:

[karsten@ego:tmp]$ md5sum Maccrisken.Letter.doc 
cc13acf991915d89c89438a9e4c1709a  Maccrisken.Letter.doc


bview turns up a few other items of interest, principally:

Bernard Reddy (following 33A0)


Googling this name reveals:

http://www.milkeninstitute.org/msoft/msoft_toc.cfm
Microsoft, Antitrust and the New Economy: Selected Essays

Why Does Microsoft Charge So Little for Legacy MS Windows?
by Bernard Reddy, David S. Evans and Albert L. Nichols


The Milken Institute has its own substantial section devoted to
Microsoft:

http://www.milkeninstitute.org/msoft/

Reddy's even been published elsewhere.  The site is known
internationally:

http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/doj/econ/10-16econ-b.asp


...and elsewhere:

http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=313202
http://www.consumerfed.org/jeclet.pdf
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/trial/schmal/fbfootnotes.asp


...I'd say there's a good chance Bruce's "grassroots" letter was posted
by someone other than a mere concerned citizen.  Looking forward to his
Register article.

Peace.

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HP 7450c Scanjet under linux

[J.S.Sahambi]

Hi,
I was planning to purhase the HP 7450c Scanner and so I browses the net 
and found that some scsi protocol has been changed. The reference sites 
are given below

http://www.mostang.com/mail-archive/sane-devel/2001-06/0302.html

So, I wanted to know if  HP 7450c Scanner  works under linux?
Thanking in advance
J S Sahambi



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How to request specific IPaddress with DHCP?

[mdevin]

Hello all,

Does anyone know if there is a way to try and force the DHCP server for
your ISP to give you the IPaddress you want?

I am using dhclient as my DHCP client.  Basically, I want to try and
limit the possibility that my IPaddress will change.  In fact it just
changed and I want to try and get my old IPaddress back.

Is it possible to get my IPaddress back somehow?  I tried pinging my old
address and it doesn't seem to have been taken yet.

Cheers.
Mark.



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idebus override or not?

[Preben Randhol]

When I boot my office machine it says:

   ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx
   VP_IDE: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 39
   VP_IDE: chipset revision 16
   VP_IDE: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
   ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx
   VP_IDE: VIA vt82c686a (rev 22) IDE UDMA66 controller on pci00:07.1
   ide0: BM-DMA at 0xd000-0xd007, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio
   ide1: BM-DMA at 0xd008-0xd00f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:DMA

In the old days I was updated on Hardware, but nowadays I haven't
followed the development very closely (mainly because I'm not buying any
new computers :-) ), so I was wondering if the assumption of 33MHz is
correct? How can I find out what I have? My machine is a AMD Duron
750MHz.

Thanks in advance!

Preben


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Re: Partition Scheme

[Karsten M. Self]

on Mon, Sep 16, 2002, David Sanders ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> I am installing Debian 3.0 Woody on a new machine with a 80GB hard drive and
> 512MB of RAM.  It will be used as a workstation.  I have read the
> installation manual, but still have questions about partitioning the disk.
> Minimum values are usually given, but no discussion of max or optimal sizes.
> The following are given in
> http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch-partitioning.en.html

> /   100MB
> /usr 500MB
> /home 100MB per user
> /var 300-500MB
> /tmp 20-50MB

My general recommendations:

http://twiki.iwethey.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/NixPartitioning

(Older article is here:
http://kmself.home.netcom.com/Linux/FAQs/partition.html )

For 80 GiB, I'd give a reasonably system allocation, with the balance to
/home.  I'm providing swap as 3x RAM, on the basis that:

  - You'll likely add more RAM later.
  - Moder kernels will stripe the swapspace, and may provide more
efficient use with multiple partitions (this is untested hearsay)

This gives, roughly:

/boot32 MiB /* Plenty for a small handful of kernels */
/   100 MiB /* /lib/modules tends to be the biggest
 *  part of this. */
/tmp200 MiB 
/var  1 GiB /* Your apt archives will be happier */
/recovery   512 MiB /* Recovery partition */
swap1   512 MiB
/usr  3 GiB /* 3 GiB should be plenty */
swap2   512 MiB
/usr/local2 GiB /* There's not _that_ much unpackaged
 * software out there anymore */
swap3   512 MiB
/home71 GiB /* Be generous to yourself */

Variants might include carving out a few partitions for reserve or
testing.  I'd rather chuck in a new drive when time comes for this.  40
GiB is about as many dollars, and gives a lot of play room.

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Lyx package

[Riaan Rottier]

Hi

Does anybody know if the Lyx package are still being maintained, version
1.2 has been out since May this year and 1.2.1 since August.  Or are the
perhaps other problems that prevent the updated versions from being
packaged ?

Regards
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Re: Setting-up CDRW

[Burkhard Ritter]

hello.

i suppose that your scsi/emulation stuff is not set up correctly. have you
really loaded all neccessary modules (have a look again at the cdwriting
howto section 2.1.3; -> ide-cd,ide-scsi,scsi_mod,sr_mod,sg)? if that is
the case cdrecord -scanbus should definitely work (it has nothing to do
with your fstab stuff).

On Mon, 16 Sep 2002, Michael Olds wrote:

> Requesting Help Setting-up CDRW
> ---
> I had this same hardware setup running under RH7.3
>
> Intel 845 P4 1.6G; 768MbRAM
> Debian: 2.4.18-bf2.4
> the SCSI emulation module was installed during the initial setup, and
> lsmod returned: ide-scsi used 0  (Does the "used 0" mean anything?)
> ---
> /etc/lilo.conf
> edited to insert: append="hdc=ide-scsi"  on line 104 above
> #Boot up Linux by default.
> #
> default=Linux
> ran lilo -v with no errors reported
> ---
>
> /etc/fstab
> edited to insert:
> /dev/sc0/mnt/cdrw   iso9660  ro,user,noauto0 0
> (also tried /dev/scd0 and for mount point: /cdrw having created a directory
> there)
>
> Question:
> /dev/cdrom  /cdrom  iso9660  ro,user,noauto0 0
> remains in /etc/fstab. Is this correct? Or should this be removed or linked
> to
> /dev/sco...and if the latter, is this the right way:
> dev/cdrom   /cdrw
>
> ---
> When I run cdrecord I get the following message:
> "Unable ... could this be the IDE device where you in fact use
> ide-scsi so that sr0 or sda or so is needed?"
>
> My answer is yes, but it does not inform the novice user as to how to get
> there.
>
> ---
>
> When I run xcdroast I get: "Failed to scan the SCSI-bus...you have to
> install the
> SCSI emulation first, Please see the CD -Writing HOW TO how to do that. Well
> I did that and I thought that was what I had done above.
>
> ---
> When I run cdrecord -scanbus I get:
> No such file or directory.
> (Thinking that this might be something like setting up a new partition, I
> set up a
> directory under / named  "cdrw"
> but that did not solve the problem.
>
> ---
> Variations on the theme are rebooting after every change
> --
>
> I have spent several days on this and have read the relevant sections in
> O'R. Running Linux; Hunger, D.G.L. Bible, and the CDRW HOW TO, as well as
> having searched Google Linux and read half a dozen forums and list archives.
>
> There is a great deal of contradictory information out there, even cocerning
> the setup for Debian. Most of the information is also very old. How is it
> possible that this is not something that is set up to at least be an option
> at initial setup on Linux? What individual today setting up Linux does not
> have a CDRW?
>
>
> Best Wishes!
> Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org
>
>
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Re: i810 video and Debian 3.0

[Burkhard Ritter]

On Mon, 16 Sep 2002, Evan Burkitt wrote:

> Sorry for taking so long to reply. I set up access through gmane.org and
> replied via my newsreader. The reply evidently was rejected by gmane.org
> because it presented incorrect headers, it took me a few days to notice
> that my reply did not post, I waited until Monday to resend from work and
> found that the reply wasn't in my newsreader's sent mail. I seem to have
> lost it altogether.
>
> To answer your question, I installed a kernel from a downloaded "mini-cd"
> image obtained from a link on debian.org but it isn't an official Debian
> file. I was surprised to find that, even though the CD purported to be
> contain a production Woody release, the kernel is/was named 2.2.20-idepci.
> I have since installed the kernel-source package, built 2.4.18 and
> successfully booted and run X with it. It does not, however, detect my NIC
> (a built-in 3COM 3C920) that the original kernel detected and used without
> incident. I also downloaded a prebuilt 2.4.18 kernel via dpkg (don't recall
> the exact name but it was for Intel Pentium/Celeron chips). It also boots
> and runs X AND also does not detect my NIC. In fact, nothing to do with
> eth0 appears in /var/logs/messages at all when I boot with either of the
> 2.4 kernels. The 2.2 kernel reports that 3c95x.c has found a "3Com 3c905c
> Tornado" card and I am able to talk to my LAN.
>
> I have included (built-in) every 3Com card I can find in menuconfig and see
> nothing unusual about the other network settings, and I am out of ideas.
> Rebuilding the kernel has been the most straightforward thing I've done yet
> with Linux; if it had worked I'd think I was really onto something. :)>
>
> I would greatly appreciate any suggestions.
>
> -eb-

have a look at the kernel-documentation to find out which driver is
the right for your card. compile the driver as module. try loading
the module (with modprobe) and see what happens. adjust /etc/modules.conf
or so.
perhabs the modulename changed that it stopped working while upgrading to
2.4.

hope that helps.

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Problem installing

[Dave Bartmess]

I tried to update from the unstable list (in order to get some fixes
that aren't in stable list yet), but got the following errors:

Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:
Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
  debconf: Depends: fileutils (>= 4.0-5) but it is not going to be
installed   PreDepends: perl-base (>= 5.6.1-4) but it is not
going to be installed
  libdb1-compat: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.2.5-13) but it is not going to be
installed
E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or
specify a solution).

Is this an apt problem? Meaning, is the .deb package bad? How do I
refresh everything, and start over with stable again?

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Re: paper size not honored by man -t command

[ridz]

> troff in Debian 3.0 should honour /etc/papersize. If you have gs
> installed, try 'man -t  | gs -sDEVICE=bbox -'. For A4, the last
> two numbers on the BoundingBox lines should be close to 540 and 800; for
> Letter they should be close to 540 and 750.
> 
> If that test passes, then you should probably look at your printing
> configuration.
> 

Yes, they are 540 and 801 - so, I need to check my configurations files
again.

> 
> The -t option to lpr has pretty much nothing to do with the -t option to
> man. The former specifies what lpr takes as input, while the latter
> makes man call groff in a different way. The -t option to man isn't
> obsolete.
> 

Yes, you are right - I dont know what I was doing! Looking at 'man lpr'
instead of 'man man' - I think I need to take a break!! :-)

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Re: SOLVED Re: Problem with cups

[David P James]

Dave Bartmess was roused into action on 09/16/02 23:10 and wrote:
 > Thanks, Nate, you pointed me in the right direction...
 >
 > I took out the Listen lines, and put in a single Port 631 line. That
 > worked... Not sure at this point why I put in the Listen lines.. LOL
 > Musta read it somewhere...
 >
 > Thanks a million!
 >
 >


I was about to suggest this... there's something screwy about the listen
lines that doesn't make any intuitive sense.

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Re: question about /etc/passwd entries

[Mike Mueller]

On Monday 16 September 2002 15:21, Osamu Aoki wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 15, 2002 at 10:16:52PM -0400, Mike Mueller wrote:
> > > On Sat, 14 Sep 2002, Mike Mueller wrote:
> > > > Why does my 2.2r6 system need a user called bin?
> >
> > 
> >
> > >  > >tml>
> >
> > Bang on!  Has this info and the response from Bob Proulx and others been
> > pulled into a document of any sort?  I think it ought to be in the System
> > Administrator's Guide or a Linux Authentication HOWTO.
>
> I think it is in Securing Debian Manual.

Yep. Thanks. 
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ch11.en.html
Section 11.1.12.1

>
> It can be located in CVS version of web page (See URL below) and in
> unastable archive (I hope by now) as harden-doc package:
>
>   http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/
>
> I recommend to read our DDP documents
>
> Debian FAQ
> Debian Reference
> Securing Debian Manual
>
> Cheers:-)

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Re: imap

[Matthew Weier O'Phinney]

--Joyce, Matthew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
(on Tuesday, 17 September 2002, 03:49 PM +1000):
> Out of the available Deb'd emailing solutions can anyone recommend a good
> SMTP-IMAP combo ?
> 
> I have heard good things about postfix, although I seem to have got exim
> doing pretty much what I want.
I've been using postfix with courier-imap for about a year now, and no
complaints. It takes a bit of tuning (non-obvious tuning, as well!) to
make postfix not be an open relay, and you'll need to set it up to
deliver to maildir (which is easy), but once it's in place, it_just_runs.
And Courier is danged simple, and again, _just_runs_.

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sfs-problems

[Burkhard Ritter]

hello.

i would like to get a sfs-client running and installed the appropriate
packages. however when i run sfscd i get the following.
NFS: NFSv3 not supported.
NFS: cannot create RPC transport.

i have nfs-common installed. i read on the sfs-homepage that i need a
newer kernel. i still have an older (from potato) 2.2 kernel, although i
upgraded to woody. is this the problem here? do i have to install a newer
kernel?

thanx.


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Re: imap

[Adrian von Bidder]

On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 14:40, Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote:

> complaints. It takes a bit of tuning (non-obvious tuning, as well!) to
> make postfix not be an open relay, and you'll need to set it up to

Huh!?

I never had any problems setting up postfix. Testing for open relay is
always one of the first things I do after setting up, and I've never had
it open so far.

If you feel certain things have to be watched, I'd be glad you publish
it here, though, perhaps my configurations are just too simple.

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Re: Setting-up CDRW

[Bob Underwood]

I just did this again last evening on a new machine and it was loads 
easier than i remembered it being.

I'm using kernel 2.4.19-k7 with both an ide cdrom and an ide-scsi 
cdrw.

i added this line to /etc/fstab:

/dev/scd0   /cdrw   iso9660 defaults,ro,user,noauto 0   0

my /etc/modules includes this:

options ide-cd ignore=hdd
ide-scsi

hth

bob



On Tuesday 17 September 2002 07:50, Burkhard Ritter wrote:
> hello.
>
> i suppose that your scsi/emulation stuff is not set up correctly.
> have you really loaded all neccessary modules (have a look again at
> the cdwriting howto section 2.1.3; ->
> ide-cd,ide-scsi,scsi_mod,sr_mod,sg)? if that is the case cdrecord
> -scanbus should definitely work (it has nothing to do with your
> fstab stuff).
>
> On Mon, 16 Sep 2002, Michael Olds wrote:
> > Requesting Help Setting-up CDRW
> > ---
> > I had this same hardware setup running under RH7.3
> >
> > Intel 845 P4 1.6G; 768MbRAM
> > Debian: 2.4.18-bf2.4
> > the SCSI emulation module was installed during the initial setup,
> > and lsmod returned: ide-scsi used 0  (Does the "used 0" mean
> > anything?) ---
> > /etc/lilo.conf
> > edited to insert: append="hdc=ide-scsi"  on line 104 above
> > #Boot up Linux by default.
> > #
> > default=Linux
> > ran lilo -v with no errors reported
> > ---
> >
> > /etc/fstab
> > edited to insert:
> > /dev/sc0/mnt/cdrw   iso9660  ro,user,noauto0 0
> > (also tried /dev/scd0 and for mount point: /cdrw having created a
> > directory there)
> >
> > Question:
> > /dev/cdrom  /cdrom  iso9660  ro,user,noauto0 0
> > remains in /etc/fstab. Is this correct? Or should this be removed
> > or linked to
> > /dev/sco...and if the latter, is this the right way:
> > dev/cdrom   /cdrw
> >
> > ---
> > When I run cdrecord I get the following message:
> > "Unable ... could this be the IDE device where you in fact use
> > ide-scsi so that sr0 or sda or so is needed?"
> >
> > My answer is yes, but it does not inform the novice user as to
> > how to get there.
> >
> > ---
> >
> > When I run xcdroast I get: "Failed to scan the SCSI-bus...you
> > have to install the
> > SCSI emulation first, Please see the CD -Writing HOW TO how to do
> > that. Well I did that and I thought that was what I had done
> > above.
> >
> > ---
> > When I run cdrecord -scanbus I get:
> > No such file or directory.
> > (Thinking that this might be something like setting up a new
> > partition, I set up a
> > directory under / named  "cdrw"
> > but that did not solve the problem.
> >
> > ---
> > Variations on the theme are rebooting after every change
> > --
> >
> > I have spent several days on this and have read the relevant
> > sections in O'R. Running Linux; Hunger, D.G.L. Bible, and the
> > CDRW HOW TO, as well as having searched Google Linux and read
> > half a dozen forums and list archives.
> >
> > There is a great deal of contradictory information out there,
> > even cocerning the setup for Debian. Most of the information is
> > also very old. How is it possible that this is not something that
> > is set up to at least be an option at initial setup on Linux?
> > What individual today setting up Linux does not have a CDRW?
> >
> >
> > Best Wishes!
> > Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org
> >
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Re: sfs-problems

[David Roundy]

On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 02:43:39PM +0200, Burkhard Ritter wrote:
> i would like to get a sfs-client running and installed the appropriate
> packages. however when i run sfscd i get the following.
> NFS: NFSv3 not supported.
> NFS: cannot create RPC transport.
> 
> i have nfs-common installed. i read on the sfs-homepage that i need a
> newer kernel. i still have an older (from potato) 2.2 kernel, although i
> upgraded to woody. is this the problem here? do i have to install a newer
> kernel?

Yes, that is correct.  I think a newer 2.2 or a 2.4 kernel with NFSv3
support included is all you need.
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configuration problem with interaction of krb5 and kde screensaver

[Dietrich Schroff]

Greetings,

our institute network uses afs and krb5 for home directories and 
user authentication.
I got everything working, like logging as user (net) or root (local) in
with wdm or ssh or on console, getting AFS-tokens automatically (for
net-user, not for root).

Here my problem:
If i log in as user in KDE and then use the screensaver, i can not
unlock my screen. As root this is possible. 
I think the configuration file is /etc/pam.d/kde. It looks like this:

auth  required /lib/security/pam_nologin.so
auth  sufficient   /lib/security/pam_unix.so shadow md5 nullok likeauth
auth  required /lib/security/pam_krb5.so use_first_pass


Can anybody tell me the right configuration to cure this last problem,
so that every computer on our institute can be upgraded to AFS and
Kerberos ?

Any pointers to documentation or suggestions on how to troubleshoot will
be much appreciated.

Please CC me as I am not subscribed.

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Problems with Virtualdub and WIne

[Ronald Castillo]

Greetings..

I'm trying to run VirtualDub 1.4.9 using Wine (latest version) but I get the 
following problem:

err:win32:PE_fixup_imports No implementation for 
AVICAP32.dll.0(capCreateCaptureWindowA) imported from 
C:\virtualdub\VirtualDub.exe, setting to 0xdeadbeef
Wine failed with return code 61

I have copied the AVICAP32.DLL from a Windows XP machine to the fake window's 
System and System32 folders and configured it as "native" but I still get 
that message.   I use Debian Sarge.

I would appreciate any help so I can make the program run.

Thanks for your attention.

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Re: Problem installing

[Burkhard Ritter]

On 17 Sep 2002, Dave Bartmess wrote:

> I tried to update from the unstable list (in order to get some fixes
> that aren't in stable list yet), but got the following errors:
>
> Reading Package Lists... Done
> Building Dependency Tree... Done
> You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:
> Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
>   debconf: Depends: fileutils (>= 4.0-5) but it is not going to be
-> install fileutils
> installed   PreDepends: perl-base (>= 5.6.1-4) but it is not
> going to be installed
-> install perl-base
>   libdb1-compat: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.2.5-13) but it is not going to be
-> install libdb1-compat
> installed
> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or
> specify a solution).
>
> Is this an apt problem? Meaning, is the .deb package bad? How do I
> refresh everything, and start over with stable again?
>
> Thanks!


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Re: Pentium 90 64 Mo in home network - what to do with it?

[shaulka]

On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 10:34:47AM +0200, Jerome Lacoste (Frisurf) wrote:
> 
> Hei,
> 
> A friend of mine is going to have a broadband connection at home. He
> already has a Pentium II 350 Mhz that he uses as desktop and server
> running Red Hat. He uses the machine for some personal development and
> wants to use it as a web/file server once he gets his broadband
> connection at the end of the month. The Red Hat machine is in his
> basement, and he will use it as a gateway for the laptop running WXP he
> got from his work, so that he can surf from his apartment while hiding
> geek stuff away from his computer unfriendly girl-friend :)
> 
> He managed to get hold on a pentium 90 with 64 Mo and a 3 Go Hard disks.
> He is interested in loading Debian on it, but we don't have a perfect
> use for it right now.
> 
> If he uses the new machine as file/web server, the small hard disk
> capacity will limit it. He can limit its use for NAT/forewall etc.. and
> use his current server as file/web server. But then he needs to have 
> both machines on all the time.


Is there a problem with having both machines on all the time?


> 
> We are trying to find a use for this machine. 
> I had two ideas:
> - backup/replicate of the server (in case)
> - honey pot but I don't think he will be interested in it.
> 
> Any other idea?
> 
> Jerome
> 
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Re: Caught 'em!

[jeff]

> Open the Maccrisken letter in OpenOffice 1.0.1 . Go to File->Properties
> in the menu. Hit the "General" tab if it's not already there. It reads
> (in part):
>
> Created: 09/05/2002, 13:10:00, Peter Passell
> Modified: 09/05/2002, 13:11:00, Michael Wendy
>
> Maccrisken is a fellow who I trounced (if I may say so) in an editorial
> argument on CNET a while back. Passell is listed on the staff of the
Milken
> Institute. Milken the Junk-Bond King is the chairman of said institute.
>
> Oh, they are _such_ toast.
>
> Thanks
>
> Bruce
>

yo bruce. not to be a complete dingbat bro, but, what's this all about?

:-D

take it easy bro and F H-Paq! a little baiting never hurt anyone! har har.

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Re: Problem installing

[shaulka]

On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 06:08:11AM -0600, Dave Bartmess wrote:
> I tried to update from the unstable list (in order to get some fixes
> that aren't in stable list yet), but got the following errors:
> 
> Reading Package Lists... Done
> Building Dependency Tree... Done
> You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:
> Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
>   debconf: Depends: fileutils (>= 4.0-5) but it is not going to be
> installed   PreDepends: perl-base (>= 5.6.1-4) but it is not
> going to be installed
>   libdb1-compat: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.2.5-13) but it is not going to be
> installed
> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or
> specify a solution).
> 
> Is this an apt problem? Meaning, is the .deb package bad? How do I
> refresh everything, and start over with stable again?
> 
> Thanks!
> 


I get the feeling that you trying to upgrade _only_ some of the 
packages to their unstable version. Is that so?

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Re: How to request specific IPaddress with DHCP?

[Alex Malinovich]

On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 05:19, mdevin wrote:
> Does anyone know if there is a way to try and force the DHCP server for
> your ISP to give you the IPaddress you want?
> 
> I am using dhclient as my DHCP client.  Basically, I want to try and
> limit the possibility that my IPaddress will change.  In fact it just
> changed and I want to try and get my old IPaddress back.
> 
> Is it possible to get my IPaddress back somehow?  I tried pinging my old
> address and it doesn't seem to have been taken yet.

The only way to consistently get the same address from a DHCP server is
to set up an address lease. Unfortunately, only the person administering
the DHCP server can do that. As a client, there's really not much you
can do except to call your ISP and ask to have a static IP. (They'll
most likely either say no or offer to give you a static IP for a price.)

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Re: Pentium 90 64 Mo in home network - what to do with it?

[Alex Malinovich]

On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 03:34, Jerome Lacoste (Frisurf) wrote:
> If he uses the new machine as file/web server, the small hard disk
> capacity will limit it. He can limit its use for NAT/forewall etc.. and
> use his current server as file/web server. But then he needs to have 
> both machines on all the time.
> 
> We are trying to find a use for this machine. 
> I had two ideas:
> - backup/replicate of the server (in case)
> - honey pot but I don't think he will be interested in it.
> 
> Any other idea?

I have an old P133 that functions as my web and mail server. I've also
been meaning to switch the NAT routing over to it along with DHCP and
DNS responsibilities but I haven't gotten around to it yet. 3 GB of disk
space should be plenty enough room for a web server unless your friend
wants to host 3 of the biggest porn sites in the world or something. :)

The other option is, if the file serving function would just be for the
local network, have the 90 set up as a file server but with an NFS
connection to the other computer. I have my 133 set up as my only
externally accessible FTP and SSH server, but I can use it to get
information from any of the other computers on my network.

Hope that helps. :)

-Alex



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[sven petterson]

Hello

I have a "Vadem VG-469 rev 00 ISA-to-PCMCIA at port 0x3e2 ofs 0x00" board 
and i can't get it to work under 2.4.18.

Under 2.2.20 both the i82365 and yenta_socket PCIC works and loads drivers 
for the cards i put in the device.

In 2.4.18 i82365 says "unresolved symbol isapnp_find_dev_R9991be23" or 
similar, ive heard before you have to change PCIC to yenta_socket but under 
2.4.18 it tells me there isnt any device. ":No device" and not much more.

I have tried both the pcmcia-cs and in-kernel drivers.

What might i do?

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RE: Setting-up CDRW

[Michael Olds]

Oops! I see I resonded only to Bob:

Hello, and thank you all for these clues. This is just to let you know that
I can't get to this until later this afternoon. I will report back with
results.

-Original Message-
From: Bob Underwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 5:54 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Setting-up CDRW


I just did this again last evening on a new machine and it was loads
easier than i remembered it being.

I'm using kernel 2.4.19-k7 with both an ide cdrom and an ide-scsi
cdrw.

i added this line to /etc/fstab:

/dev/scd0   /cdrw   iso9660 defaults,ro,user,noauto 0   0

my /etc/modules includes this:

options ide-cd ignore=hdd
ide-scsi

hth

bob



On Tuesday 17 September 2002 07:50, Burkhard Ritter wrote:
> hello.
>
> i suppose that your scsi/emulation stuff is not set up correctly.
> have you really loaded all neccessary modules (have a look again at
> the cdwriting howto section 2.1.3; ->
> ide-cd,ide-scsi,scsi_mod,sr_mod,sg)? if that is the case cdrecord
> -scanbus should definitely work (it has nothing to do with your
> fstab stuff).
>
> On Mon, 16 Sep 2002, Michael Olds wrote:
> > Requesting Help Setting-up CDRW
> > ---
> > I had this same hardware setup running under RH7.3
> >
> > Intel 845 P4 1.6G; 768MbRAM
> > Debian: 2.4.18-bf2.4
> > the SCSI emulation module was installed during the initial setup,
> > and lsmod returned: ide-scsi used 0  (Does the "used 0" mean
> > anything?) ---
> > /etc/lilo.conf
> > edited to insert: append="hdc=ide-scsi"  on line 104 above
> > #Boot up Linux by default.
> > #
> > default=Linux
> > ran lilo -v with no errors reported
> > ---
> >
> > /etc/fstab
> > edited to insert:
> > /dev/sc0/mnt/cdrw   iso9660  ro,user,noauto0 0
> > (also tried /dev/scd0 and for mount point: /cdrw having created a
> > directory there)
> >
> > Question:
> > /dev/cdrom  /cdrom  iso9660  ro,user,noauto0 0
> > remains in /etc/fstab. Is this correct? Or should this be removed
> > or linked to
> > /dev/sco...and if the latter, is this the right way:
> > dev/cdrom   /cdrw
> >
> > ---
> > When I run cdrecord I get the following message:
> > "Unable ... could this be the IDE device where you in fact use
> > ide-scsi so that sr0 or sda or so is needed?"
> >
> > My answer is yes, but it does not inform the novice user as to
> > how to get there.
> >
> > ---
> >
> > When I run xcdroast I get: "Failed to scan the SCSI-bus...you
> > have to install the
> > SCSI emulation first, Please see the CD -Writing HOW TO how to do
> > that. Well I did that and I thought that was what I had done
> > above.
> >
> > ---
> > When I run cdrecord -scanbus I get:
> > No such file or directory.
> > (Thinking that this might be something like setting up a new
> > partition, I set up a
> > directory under / named  "cdrw"
> > but that did not solve the problem.
> >
> > ---
> > Variations on the theme are rebooting after every change
> > --
> >
> > I have spent several days on this and have read the relevant
> > sections in O'R. Running Linux; Hunger, D.G.L. Bible, and the
> > CDRW HOW TO, as well as having searched Google Linux and read
> > half a dozen forums and list archives.
> >
> > There is a great deal of contradictory information out there,
> > even cocerning the setup for Debian. Most of the information is
> > also very old. How is it possible that this is not something that
> > is set up to at least be an option at initial setup on Linux?
> > What individual today setting up Linux does not have a CDRW?
> >
> >
> > Best Wishes!
> > Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org
> >
> >
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RE: worms/viruses on linux

[Brooks R. Robinson]

| > > This makes it imperative to patch systems with security patches asap.
| > > If
| > > i'm under the understanding, virus/worms have been on an increase in
| > > the
| > > past 6-12 months on Linux systems.  Do people think this is because of
| > > the
| > > more widespread usage of LInux now, or something more sinister (like
| > > Microsoft deliberately writing viruses to attack Linux
| >
| > This seems a bit too underhanded, even for MS.  Besides, if their own
| > security alerts are any indication, I recon the boys at Redmond are a
| > bit too busy addressing their own vulnerabilities to take time to
| > exploit any that may be found in Linux...
| >
|
| Too busy?  M$ sucks (at bear minimum) several million dollars per
| hour every
| day of the year (I am being very generous with the math) from
| users.  Several
| million dollars an hour. . . .  They can afford to do anything
| they want to
| do when ever it suits them.

So let them find the security holes and write worms/viruses.  My expectation
is that they will be plugged faster than Microsoft could ever dream of, and
it'll make Linux just that much more resilient!

:)

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Re: Pentium 90 64 Mo in home network - what to do with it?

[Mark L. Kahnt]

On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 04:34, Jerome Lacoste (Frisurf) wrote:
> 
> Hei,
> 
> A friend of mine is going to have a broadband connection at home. He
> already has a Pentium II 350 Mhz that he uses as desktop and server
> running Red Hat. He uses the machine for some personal development and
> wants to use it as a web/file server once he gets his broadband
> connection at the end of the month. The Red Hat machine is in his
> basement, and he will use it as a gateway for the laptop running WXP he
> got from his work, so that he can surf from his apartment while hiding
> geek stuff away from his computer unfriendly girl-friend :)
> 
> He managed to get hold on a pentium 90 with 64 Mo and a 3 Go Hard disks.
> He is interested in loading Debian on it, but we don't have a perfect
> use for it right now.
> 
> If he uses the new machine as file/web server, the small hard disk
> capacity will limit it. He can limit its use for NAT/forewall etc.. and
> use his current server as file/web server. But then he needs to have 
> both machines on all the time.
> 
> We are trying to find a use for this machine. 
> I had two ideas:
> - backup/replicate of the server (in case)
> - honey pot but I don't think he will be interested in it.
> 
> Any other idea?
> 
> Jerome
> 
> 
> -- 

I used to run a Pentium 90 with 80 MB RAM and 5.2 GB disk (between two
ide devices) and I found it was fine for handling broadband traffic,
firewall/gateway, and general Internet tasks, but it ***slowed*** when
servicing a 100 Mbit Ethernet card for extended demands in addition to
those tasks, or tried presenting streaming video. My suggestion is that
it would be best as the gateway/firewall box, and keep it away from
tasks involving X11 if you want it to continue to be responsive.

Offhand, unless you are dealing with a small, stable file collection, it
doesn't make a lot of sense to use a machine with a small amount of disk
space relative to the other machines as a file server - it makes little
sense to put the files anywhere but local, unless they must be shared,
under those circumstances.
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Re: idebus override or not?

[nate]

Preben Randhol said:

> In the old days I was updated on Hardware, but nowadays I haven't
> followed the development very closely (mainly because I'm not buying any
> new computers :-) ), so I was wondering if the assumption of 33MHz is
> correct? How can I find out what I have? My machine is a AMD Duron
> 750MHz.


unless you have a really high end board, 33Mhz is the normal clock
speed for the PCI bus. some boards have a 66mhz bus available, but
I've never heard of the onboard ide controller being on such a bus.

nate




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Re: Problems with Virtualdub and WIne

[nate]

Ronald Castillo said:
> Greetings..
>
> I'm trying to run VirtualDub 1.4.9 using Wine (latest version) but I get
> the  following problem:

looks like you may need WineX to get it running:

http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?appId=438&versionId=621


nate





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Re: imap

[Matthew Weier O'Phinney]

--Adrian von Bidder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
(on Tuesday, 17 September 2002, 02:48 PM +0200):
> On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 14:40, Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote:
> > complaints. It takes a bit of tuning (non-obvious tuning, as well!) to
> > make postfix not be an open relay, and you'll need to set it up to
> 
> Huh!?
> 
> I never had any problems setting up postfix. Testing for open relay is
> always one of the first things I do after setting up, and I've never had
> it open so far.
> 
> If you feel certain things have to be watched, I'd be glad you publish
> it here, though, perhaps my configurations are just too simple.
There's one setting that's standard in the "main.cf" file that
supposedly turns off the open relay:
relay_domains = *.yourdomain.tld

However, I discovered that even with this set properly, I was still
being used as an open relay -- in testing, I even ssh'd to a server
across the country with which I had set up no trust relationship vis a
vis smtp, and was able to send email via my server to a yahoo account.
What I discovered needed to be set was the following:
smtpd_client_restrictions = permit_mynetworks, reject_unknown_client

and this line needs to occur before the relay_domains setting. After I'd
done so, any connections to my smtp server outside my local network were
denied.

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Re: how to make the man formatting better.

[Mark L. Kahnt]

On Sun, 2002-09-15 at 07:07, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 15, 2002 at 11:28:34AM +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
> > also sprach Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.09.15.0354 +0200]:
> > > Most of Debian's man pages are written this way.
> > 
> > So why does dh_make provide manpage.sgml.ex and even a commented
> > docbook-to-man call in debian/rules? The message I extracted from that
> > was "Debian really prefers you to use SGML for manpages..."
> 
> dh_make has all kinds of weird ideas, and isn't even close to
> authoritative ... note that it also provides manpage.1.ex, though.
> 
> -- 
> Colin Watson  [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> 
> 
> -- 

I would suspect that Debian does prefer SGML for manpages because SGML
is more of an *officially sanctioned* standard that is meant to be able
to produce output to a wide variety of presentation methods, while
groff, being unstructured (and from past experiences of troff from my
Unix days and runoff from my VMS days, not always absolutely consistent
in output produced and features supported/implemented) leaves room for
difficult to implement formatting decisions (primarily the errors, like
forgetting to switch off bold or italics,) and requires translations
that may not always be faithful when you want to draw upon viewers such
as a web browser (although I salute the performance of man2html on this
matter.)
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Re: Problems with Virtualdub and WIne

[Klaus Imgrund]

On Tue, 17 Sep 2002 08:58:42 -0700 (PDT)
"nate" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Ronald Castillo said:
> > Greetings..
> >
> > I'm trying to run VirtualDub 1.4.9 using Wine (latest version) but I
> > get the  following problem:
> 
> looks like you may need WineX to get it running:
> 
> http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?appId=438&versionId=621
> 
> 
Well - I got it running with winex - sort of.
The gui comes up and it plays some mpg's.But I can't get it to do
anything so far because it won't find any codecs no matter where I put
them.
So it basically I can't do anything with it so far.
Anybody knows where are you supposed to stick the codecs?

Klaus


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Re: Can't get rid of this file--Why???

[John Foster]

"W. Paul Mills" wrote:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Foster) writes:
> 
> > I have a file /usr/lib/gnews after purging gnews from my system. The
> > strange thing is that I can't even remove it as root. It has a string of
> > numbers for the owner and group and properties of pr--r--r--  0444  Does
> > anyone know what this is and how to get rid of it. It is stopping me
> > from installing or removing anything connected to gnews. Also it is
> > 512Mbs in size. I tried to view it and I get permission denied...even as
> > root. Thanks!
> 
> Looks like a job for "debugfs".  The "p" looks like a pipe, but
> since it has size it cannot be a pipe.
> 
> Paul
---
Well Thanks All. I did as suggested  and ran e2fsck and it did seem to
clean up the disk. and the wierd file has disappeared. I am still
concerned about the posibility of a hacker but have detected no evidence
of that. My skills there are very limited as it never happened before
(that I know of :-)). This is the second time in 2 weeks that my disk
(Woody) has behaved strangely. Any ideas besides hardening up my
connection??

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Re: how to make the man formatting better.

[Colin Watson]

On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 12:07:35PM -0400, Mark L. Kahnt wrote:
> On Sun, 2002-09-15 at 07:07, Colin Watson wrote:
> > On Sun, Sep 15, 2002 at 11:28:34AM +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
> > > also sprach Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.09.15.0354 +0200]:
> > > > Most of Debian's man pages are written this way.
> > > 
> > > So why does dh_make provide manpage.sgml.ex and even a commented
> > > docbook-to-man call in debian/rules? The message I extracted from that
> > > was "Debian really prefers you to use SGML for manpages..."
> > 
> > dh_make has all kinds of weird ideas, and isn't even close to
> > authoritative ... note that it also provides manpage.1.ex, though.
> 
> I would suspect that Debian does prefer SGML for manpages

Speaking as the man-db maintainer, nope, sorry, we don't. Whether we
should is a whole different argument. Actually, I think SGML is way
overkill for the average man page - the SGML example I ship in man-db is
almost three times as large as the groff example, and the source is
significantly less readable. Most man pages aren't all that much longer
than that pair of examples, and the ability of Debian developers and
documenters to write them conveniently without having to fight with
complex tools is important.

Also, it's rare for SGML man pages to come from upstream developers, and
consistency is important. There are SGML- and XML-derived standards that
are very worthwhile documentation formats, but considering how long man
pages have been around and how widely implementations are deployed I
think it's better to push those formats for other forms of
documentation.

> because SGML is more of an *officially sanctioned* standard that is
> meant to be able to produce output to a wide variety of presentation
> methods, while groff, being unstructured (and from past experiences of
> troff from my Unix days and runoff from my VMS days, not always
> absolutely consistent in output produced and features
> supported/implemented)

As far as Debian is concerned, only groff matters - we don't ship any
other [nt]roff implementations, and man-db is configured to use groff.

> leaves room for difficult to implement formatting decisions (primarily
> the errors, like forgetting to switch off bold or italics,) and
> requires translations that may not always be faithful when you want to
> draw upon viewers such as a web browser (although I salute the
> performance of man2html on this matter.)

groff's HTML device is getting better all the time, too.

Cheers,

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Re: second X-session only as root

[Karsten M. Self]

on Sat, Sep 14, 2002, David Wilk ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Howdy folks,
> 
> I upgraded from a potato+unofficial Xfree4.1 packages (pbotha) system
> that allowed multiple xsessions for all users to a stock woody system
> that only allows a second xsession for root.  I didn't change any
> configs, and here's the contents of my /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config:
> 
> 
> ### BEGIN DEBCONF SECTION
> # Do not edit within this region if you want your changes to be
> # preserved by
> # debconf.  Instead, make changes after the "### END DEBCONF SECTION"
> # line.
> allowed_users=console
> nice_value=-10
> ### END DEBCONF SECTION
> 
> 
> If I'm not mistaken, this should allow all users on the console to start
> up X via startx.  However, here's what I get when I attempt todo so:
> 
> 
> startx -- :1 -dpi 32 vt8

Just glancing, that should work.

What do you have in your local user or system (.)Xsession file(s)?

Try starting X with 'X' rather than 'startx'.  If that works, you've got
config file issues.

Peace.

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Re: Can't get rid of this file--Why???

[Alan Shutko]

John Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> This is the second time in 2 weeks that my disk (Woody) has behaved
> strangely. Any ideas besides hardening up my connection??

Run a disk surface scan and see if anything is wrong.  e2fsck -c will
do this.  If it turns up any bad blocks, buy a new drive, this one is
going out

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Re: idebus override or not?

[Stephen Gran]

This one time, at band camp, Preben Randhol said:
> When I boot my office machine it says:
> 
>ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx
>VP_IDE: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 39
>VP_IDE: chipset revision 16
>VP_IDE: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
>ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx
>VP_IDE: VIA vt82c686a (rev 22) IDE UDMA66 controller on pci00:07.1
^^
>ide0: BM-DMA at 0xd000-0xd007, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio
   ^^^
>ide1: BM-DMA at 0xd008-0xd00f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:DMA
   
> 
> In the old days I was updated on Hardware, but nowadays I haven't
> followed the development very closely (mainly because I'm not buying any
> new computers :-) ), so I was wondering if the assumption of 33MHz is
> correct? How can I find out what I have? My machine is a AMD Duron
> 750MHz.

The kernel is telling you that PIO modes will get 33MHz speeds unless
otherwise explicitly told, but you have a UDMA controller running at
66MHZ, and your drives are being detected as DMA-capable, so they will
run at 66MHz.  PIO != DMA.  This looks OK to me.

Steve

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dual processor website/howto

[Lance Hoffmeyer]

Can someone point me to a website that  covers advantages/disadvantages
of a dual processor machine over a single processor machine, especially in
linux?

Lance


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Re: Can't locate module char-major-116

[Dave Sherohman]

On Mon, Sep 16, 2002 at 03:22:07PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> If you don't care about modules being automatically loaded for ALSA,
> then just ignore the warning.

...or add the line

alias char-major-116 off

to /etc/modules.conf.

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Kernel Errors

[Rob VanFleet]

I had a machine lock up on me last night - it would not respond to the
keyboard, and although it would allow a password prompt from an ssh
session, it would hang at login.  I went looking through syslog, and
I've found some unsettling entries.

Here are the entries a bit before the lock-up:

Sep 16 14:02:01 atlas kernel: invalid operand: 
Sep 16 14:02:01 atlas kernel: CPU:0
Sep 16 14:02:01 atlas kernel: EIP:0010:[__free_pages_ok+40/500]Tainted: P 
Sep 16 14:02:01 atlas kernel: EFLAGS: 00010282
Sep 16 14:02:01 atlas kernel: eax: c114a8dc   ebx: c11fa180   ecx: c11fa180   edx: 
c02546e0
Sep 16 14:02:01 atlas kernel: esi: c11fa180   edi:    ebp: 0070   esp: 
c1217f28
Sep 16 14:02:01 atlas kernel: ds: 0018   es: 0018   ss: 0018
Sep 16 14:02:01 atlas kernel: Process kswapd (pid: 4, stackpage=c1217000)
Sep 16 14:02:01 atlas kernel: Stack: c216f7e0 c11fa180 000d 0070 c11fa180 
01d0 c216f7e0 c11fa180 
Sep 16 14:02:01 atlas kernel:c0126762 c01274d7 c012679b 0020 01d0 
0020 0006 0006 
Sep 16 14:02:01 atlas kernel:c1216000 04cf 01d0 c0254808 c0126996 
0006 001a 0006 
Sep 16 14:02:01 atlas kernel: Call Trace: [shrink_cache+458/732] [__free_pages+27/28] 
[shrink_cache+515/732] [shrink_caches+86/124] [try_to_fre
e_pages+55/88] 
Sep 16 14:02:01 atlas kernel:[kswapd_balance_pgdat+67/140] [kswapd_balance+18/40] 
[kswapd+153/188] [kernel_thread+40/56] 
Sep 16 14:02:01 atlas kernel: 
Sep 16 14:02:01 atlas kernel: Code: 0f 0b 89 d8 2b 05 cc 8e 2a c0 c1 f8 06 3b 05 c0 8e 
2a c0 72 
Sep 16 14:08:01 atlas kernel:  invalid operand: 
Sep 16 14:08:01 atlas kernel: CPU:0
Sep 16 14:08:01 atlas kernel: EIP:0010:[__free_pages_ok+40/500]Tainted: P 
Sep 16 14:08:01 atlas kernel: EFLAGS: 00010282
Sep 16 14:08:01 atlas kernel: eax: c116795c   ebx: c11df040   ecx: c11df040   edx: 
c02546e0
Sep 16 14:08:01 atlas kernel: esi: c11df040   edi:    ebp: 0086   esp: 
c6987e2c
Sep 16 14:08:01 atlas kernel: ds: 0018   es: 0018   ss: 0018
Sep 16 14:08:01 atlas kernel: Process cron (pid: 438, stackpage=c6987000)
Sep 16 14:08:01 atlas kernel: Stack: c216f600 c11df040 0020 0086 c11df040 
01f0 c216f600 c11df040 
Sep 16 14:08:01 atlas kernel:c0126762 c01274d7 c012679b 0020 01f0 
0020 0006 0006 
Sep 16 14:08:01 atlas kernel:c6986000 053e 01f0 c0254808 c0126996 
0006 0018 0006 
Sep 16 14:08:01 atlas kernel: Call Trace: [shrink_cache+458/732] [__free_pages+27/28] 
[shrink_cache+515/732] [shrink_caches+86/124] [try_to_fre
e_pages+55/88] 
Sep 16 14:08:01 atlas kernel:[balance_classzone+78/360] [__alloc_pages+262/356] 
[_alloc_pages+22/24] [__get_free_pages+10/24] [pte_alloc+60
/152] [copy_page_range+221/408] 
Sep 16 14:08:01 atlas kernel:[copy_mm+546/700] [do_fork+1014/1648] 
[process_timeout+0/72] [sys_time+20/84] [sys_fork+20/28] [system_call+51
/56] 
Sep 16 14:08:01 atlas kernel: 
Sep 16 14:08:01 atlas kernel: Code: 0f 0b 89 d8 2b 05 cc 8e 2a c0 c1 f8 06 3b 05 c0 8e 
2a c0 72

Scrolling up a bit more, I've found more odd log entries.  From a bit of
googling, it seems they are related to ReiserFS.

Sep 11 18:20:13 atlas kernel: Directory sread (sector 0x1d) failed
Sep 11 18:20:13 atlas kernel: attempt to access beyond end of device
Sep 11 18:20:13 atlas kernel: 02:00: rw=0, want=15, limit=4

This goes on for several entries.

I am simply curious if anyone has seen this behavior and what
solutions/explanations you have found.

Thanks,
Rob


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Re: Concerning Upgrade to Woody: Couldn't configure a pre-depend

[Andreas Hetzmannseder]

Brenda J. Butler wrote on Monday, September 16th 2002 at 22.55 h
(-0400):
> 
> > [...]
> 
> I didn't have trouble with apt-cdrom to add the cd's as sources (going
> from Potato stable to Woody stable), but now I have trouble with
> apt-get not recognising the cd's?  Anyway I'm still investigating.

I also had problems with this, so I started the apt-cdrom-add procedure
all over again.  I believe now, that the CD sources can be fetched,
although I'm completely stuck at the moment.  You may want to check if
there are entries for the CDs in your /var/lib/apt/lists that start with
'Debian%20GNU_Linux'.

> 
> >  6% [Working]
> > 
> >  Media Change: Please insert the disc labeled 'Debian GNU/Linux 3.0
> >  r0 _Woody_ - Unofficial i386 Binary-1 (0721)' in the drive
> >  '/cdbrenner/' and press enter
> > 
> >  6% [Working]
> > 
> >  E: Internal Error, Couldn't configure a pre-depend
> 
> Yes, I saw that exact same error.
> 
> I got around it by serendipity.  I wanted ssh for other reasons, and
> did apt-get install ssh (after that other failure).  That caused libc6
> to be installed (without any pre-depends dependencies), and I was able
> to do the rest.
> 
> > I wonder what this internal error about the pre-depend means.  If
> > this is a specific pre-depend, how can I find out something about it
> > to fix it?
> 
> Yeah, I'd like to know too.
> 
> Also, I've always wondered how you get apt or dpkg to tell you which
> packages are being held back (you know that summary that apt-get gives
> you, 1 package to install new, 15 packages to upgrade, 1 package to
> remove and 1 package to hold).  What is that package being held?!?

I put a lot of packages on hold by intention, because I wanted to make
sure that if anything would go wrong, I wouldn't have to wait for two
days to download.  I used dselect and hit the '=' key for every single
highlighted package.

> I upgraded from Official Potato 2.2r4 (20011107), sparc to Official
> Woody 3.0r0 (20020719) sparc via cd.

Thanks for the hint with ssh.  I will try it out.  If anything goes
wrong I probably will make a fresh install as I found out that my /var
partition seems to have become too small.  This gave me a lot of
problems by the way which I didn't even mention.  CDs not being
recognised was probably one of them.

Thank you very much for your reply.
Andreas.

PS: I'm CCing you because I'm not sure if this message will show up in
the list.  I seem to have gone into problems with posting as my recent
message - the one you responded to - has been marked with a spam level
of 4 :(  Yesterday I wrote a complaint about it which seems to have been
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Where to get libqt3-mt 3.0.4 or higher for Woody??

[John Foster]

I am trying to install KDE3 on my Woody system. An unmet dependency
iexist for libqt3-mt (=>3.0.4) where can I find this? I have not even
been able to locate the source code for it on the main KDE site.
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Server

[Florian Struck]

Hi all
Since our in our company we have all our correspondence and developement files 
locally on the workstations and the only access other workers have to those 
files is MSfilesharing (yuck...puke...) i am thinking of setting up a debian 
server primarily used for Fileserver(samba)/databaseserver(mysql) and 
eventually printserver(cups), webserver(apache).
I even thought of giving fish access to the boss  :-).

Here the specs of the machine im thinking of buying for that (own assembly 
cause a proprietary server (IBM, HP...) is pretty expensive):


1x MBP TYAN TIGER MP/S2460/Dual SKTA/ATX AMD-760MP Chip

2x AMD ATHLON K7 MP+ 1900 Sockel-A

1x ADVANCE 2941U BUSINESS KIT scsi controler

2x IBM UltraStar IC35L018 UW-SCSI 18.2GB 1u/min

1x GEH ATX SERVERTOWER 350Watt ZH-911-350

1x (B) NE2000 100MBit RJ45 PCI

256 to 512 MB of RAM

+ Tape streamer

(Costs all together about a quarter of a equal proprietary server pheeew!)

Now my question is if someone knows a good and possibly easy :-) way of 
setting up mirroring of the disks and setting up a backup job to tape every 
night if you know any URL`s and tutorials (i've never set it up before, 
though i know pretty well how to handle debian machines so it should be 
debian specific info's)
I would be very pleased.
Best regards and ... ah ja before i forget ... debian ROCKS!!!
:-)
Thx
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Re: how to make the man formatting better.

[Mark L. Kahnt]

On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 12:28, Colin Watson wrote: 
> On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 12:07:35PM -0400, Mark L. Kahnt wrote:
> > On Sun, 2002-09-15 at 07:07, Colin Watson wrote:
> > > On Sun, Sep 15, 2002 at 11:28:34AM +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
> > > > also sprach Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.09.15.0354 +0200]:
> > > > > Most of Debian's man pages are written this way.
> > > > 
> > > > So why does dh_make provide manpage.sgml.ex and even a commented
> > > > docbook-to-man call in debian/rules? The message I extracted from that
> > > > was "Debian really prefers you to use SGML for manpages..."
> > > 
> > > dh_make has all kinds of weird ideas, and isn't even close to
> > > authoritative ... note that it also provides manpage.1.ex, though.
> > 
> > I would suspect that Debian does prefer SGML for manpages
> 
> Speaking as the man-db maintainer, nope, sorry, we don't. Whether we
> should is a whole different argument. Actually, I think SGML is way
> overkill for the average man page - the SGML example I ship in man-db is
> almost three times as large as the groff example, and the source is
> significantly less readable. Most man pages aren't all that much longer
> than that pair of examples, and the ability of Debian developers and
> documenters to write them conveniently without having to fight with
> complex tools is important.
Yes - re-reading how I'd written that, I mis-spoke myself. I suspect
that up the policy chain, from what I'd read from links to threads
reported about Debian-Doc in the Debian Weekly News, it leans more to
SGML in general for any documentation, regardless of what works best in
specific situations, in the interest of "standards and universal
portability". Having coded in troff, runoff, Script on IBM mainframes,
and SGML before spending a decade in the desktop publishing field with
PageMaker, QuarkXPress and (ick!) Ventura Publisher, I know how nice it
is to use groff for quick but multi-environmental formatting, as well as
presenting chessboards ;) 

I even found that with a few macros, I could even trust print reporters
with groff! I wouldn't even consider having them work with a text editor
and an SGML template. 
> 
> Also, it's rare for SGML man pages to come from upstream developers, and
> consistency is important. There are SGML- and XML-derived standards that
> are very worthwhile documentation formats, but considering how long man
> pages have been around and how widely implementations are deployed I
> think it's better to push those formats for other forms of
> documentation.
> 
I heartily concur with that sentiment - in the same way that I would not
resort to TeX for a quick TODO list for myself as it is overkill, SGML
doesn't necessarily *fit* as the best solution everywhere, particularly
if it involves porting a mass of documents that are working fine to
another system.

That really would only make sense if groff was to be judged as otherwise
unused and questionable to support/ship any further - the same as in
insisting to support traditional consumer audio cassette tapes as a
storage (or boot) medium.

> > because SGML is more of an *officially sanctioned* standard that is
> > meant to be able to produce output to a wide variety of presentation
> > methods, while groff, being unstructured (and from past experiences of
> > troff from my Unix days and runoff from my VMS days, not always
> > absolutely consistent in output produced and features
> > supported/implemented)
> 
> As far as Debian is concerned, only groff matters - we don't ship any
> other [nt]roff implementations, and man-db is configured to use groff.
Which makes plenty of sense, so long as nobody launches a Debian Solaris
or Debian UnixWare project ;) 
> 
> > leaves room for difficult to implement formatting decisions (primarily
> > the errors, like forgetting to switch off bold or italics,) and
> > requires translations that may not always be faithful when you want to
> > draw upon viewers such as a web browser (although I salute the
> > performance of man2html on this matter.)
> 
> groff's HTML device is getting better all the time, too.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
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RE: dual processor website/howto

[Brooks R. Robinson]

| Can someone point me to a website that  covers advantages/disadvantages
| of a dual processor machine over a single processor machine, especially in
| linux?

http://2cpu.com http://www.linux.org.uk/SMP/title.html

Try a google search for smp and linux...

HTH,

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3com 905B-TX won't work?

[Bram Jessen]

hey,
my network card won't work in debian (the card 
itself works under redhat/mandrake and windows)
so I was wondering if I have to anything special to 
make it work under debian (it ain't on the 
"driver module" list, at least, I can't find it)
 
(I am a linux n00b, but I ain't learning anything 
from mandrake, so trying debian now :)

Re: apt-get "package held back" question

[Brian Nelson]

Neal Lippman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I just did a "apt-get update; apt-get upgrade" and was told that a
> package (which I know to have been recently updated) was being "held
> back."

Please see some of my earlier posts to see why tracking testing/unstable
updates with apt-get isn't a very good idea.

> Not being an apt expert, I'm not sure how to figure out WHY this occured
> and/or what to do about it in order to get the updated package. Can
> someone help me out with some info or pointers to a reference?

A package management tool such as aptitude will tell you.  Usually the
problem is a dependency that can't be met.  For example, I can see that
locales is currently held back on my system because it depends on an
unavailable version of glibc.

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How to check a set of Woody CD's for integrity

[Peter Hugosson-Miller]

I have just purchased a complete set of 14 Woody CDs (7 binary, 7
source) from linuxshop.nu, and although I have no reason to doubt their
quality, I would rather find out sooner than later if any of the disks
are faulty in any way, so that I can replace it/them.

Does anyone have a suggestion of how to check the integrity of the
complete set? I first thought of a recursive directory listing, which
would hit every directory, but I guess this would not actually check if
the files are OK.

I'm sure someone must have done something similar before, but I really
can't think of a google search that would be sufficiently precise, and I
can't figure out a foolproof method myself. My only vague idea was to
make a chacksum of all the files on the disk, but I don't know how (yet)
and I'd need som real checksums to check them against ;-).

Better suggestions, anyone?

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Re: 3com 905B-TX won't work?

[Vineet Kumar]

* Bram Jessen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [020917 11:27]:
> hey,
> my network card won't work in debian (the card itself works under
> redhat/mandrake and windows) so I was wondering if I have to anything
> special to make it work under debian (it ain't on the "driver module"
> list, at least, I can't find it)

Try the 3c59x (vortex) kernel module.  This is in the list in modconf,
or you can simply modprobe 3c59x.  modconf is the Right Way to do it,
and will also ensure that the module is loaded automatically at boot.

> (I am a linux n00b, but I ain't learning anything from mandrake, so
> trying debian now :)

You're lucky; you found the One True Distro early.  Once you discover
Debian, you get spoiled and you never want to use anything else.

good times,
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Re: 3com 905B-TX won't work?

[Stephen Gran]

This one time, at band camp, Bram Jessen said:
> hey, my network card won't work in debian (the card itself works under
> redhat/mandrake and windows) so I was wondering if I have to anything
> special to make it work under debian (it ain't on the "driver module"
> list, at least, I can't find it)
> 
> (I am a linux n00b, but I ain't learning anything from mandrake, so
> trying debian now :)

Need more information.  cat /proc/pci will show you what the kernel
thinks of the card, and then you can look under
/usr/src/linux/Documentation to see what module works with your card.
modprobe 'module' should do the rest for you.

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Re: Where to get libqt3-mt 3.0.4 or higher for Woody??

[jeff]

http://www.trolltech.com/

download...

compile...

yum...

lol...

good luck!!

-jeff


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Subject: Where to get libqt3-mt 3.0.4 or higher
for Woody??


> I am trying to install KDE3 on my Woody system.
An unmet dependency
> iexist for libqt3-mt (=>3.0.4) where can I find
this? I have not even
> been able to locate the source code for it on
the main KDE site.
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Re: How to check a set of Woody CD's for integrity

[Vineet Kumar]

* Peter Hugosson-Miller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [020917 11:38]:
> I have just purchased a complete set of 14 Woody CDs (7 binary, 7

> Does anyone have a suggestion of how to check the integrity of the
> complete set? I first thought of a recursive directory listing, which

> can't figure out a foolproof method myself. My only vague idea was to
> make a chacksum of all the files on the disk, but I don't know how (yet)
> and I'd need som real checksums to check them against ;-).

Get the checksums for the entire disc images from the cdimage site and
check that.  Don't bother with trying to check each individual file and
directory, just check that the whole image matches.  If it doesn't, then
think about digging deeper to find out what differs, or simply contact
the vendor to see why they differ, and if your checksum matches what
they think it should be.

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Woody + mesag3 + xinerama = problem

[Mike Pfleger]

Hello all.

I've checked the archives but have found nothing resembling the issue
I'm having.  I've done a new install of Woody recently, and just moved
most of my config files from my previous install.  I've discovered that
the GL screensavers, when spawned in Xinerama, only appear on display 0
leaving display 1 blank.  This seems like too great of a coincidence,
then, that Blender also only renders its workspace on display 0, with
an empty portion of the windowframe rendered on display 1.

On the Blender mailing list it was suggested that, although the display
seems to work fine without Xinerama, GL is not enabled for the second
head in Xinerama.  How is this possible?  Is there something that needs
to be done to enable GL for the second head?  This used to work on the
old install of Woody (both Blender and xscreensaver-gl), so I'm really
at a loss.  Both of my cards are ATI Mach64, btw.

Oh, and I sometimes get an error message when demo-ing the screensavers
to the effect of:
xscreensaver window unexpectedly deleted.
-I'm hoping that means more to someone than it does to me.

Thanks in advance,
Mike Pfleger
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Re: 3com 905B-TX won't work?

[Donald R. Spoon]

Bram Jessen wrote:
> hey,
> my network card won't work in debian (the card itself works under 
> redhat/mandrake and windows)
> so I was wondering if I have to anything special to make it work under 
> debian (it ain't on the "driver module" list, at least, I can't find it)
>  
> (I am a linux n00b, but I ain't learning anything from mandrake, so 
> trying debian now :)

What do you mean it "won't work in debian" exactly?  Is it even being 
detected and a module being loaded?  The correct module for this NIC is 
the 3c59x.o module.  Do a "lsmod" as root and see if you see it listed 
there.  If so, the card has been detected and the proper module loaded. 
  All you have to do in that case is configure it in the 
/etc/network/interfaces file (man interfaces).

If the module is NOT listed in the "lsmod" command, then you should try 
to load it manually with "modprobe 3c59x.o" done as root, and re-check 
the loaded modules listing (lsmod)to confirm success.  In this case you 
should manually edit the /etc/modules file and add it there.  It will 
load automatically on the next re-boot.  You will also still have to 
configure the NIC in /etc/network/modules.

I suggest a package called "etherconf", which will make configuring the 
NIC (once the proper module is loaded) quite easy.  You might have to 
install it off your CD.

Cheers,
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Re: How to check a set of Woody CD's for integrity

[Peter Hugosson-Miller]

Vineet Kumar wrote:

> * Peter Hugosson-Miller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [020917 11:38]:
> > I have just purchased a complete set of 14 Woody CDs (7 binary, 7
>
> > Does anyone have a suggestion of how to check the integrity of the
> > complete set? I first thought of a recursive directory listing,
> which
>
> > can't figure out a foolproof method myself. My only vague idea was
> to
> > make a chacksum of all the files on the disk, but I don't know how
> (yet)
> > and I'd need som real checksums to check them against ;-).
>
> Get the checksums for the entire disc images from the cdimage site and
>
> check that.  Don't bother with trying to check each individual file
> and
> directory, just check that the whole image matches.  If it doesn't,
> then
> think about digging deeper to find out what differs, or simply contact
>
> the vendor to see why they differ, and if your checksum matches what
> they think it should be.

Thanks for your swift answer, Vineet.

OK, I think I can find the checksums from the cdimage site, but I
wouldn't know where to start to check them against CD's that are already
burned, i.e not CD-images. Perhaps you could point me in the right
direction.

Thanks in advance.

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OT: KDevelop and extra libraries

[Torsten Wolny]

Hello,

my problem is a little bit off topic but i hope someone can help me. 
Yesterday  i posted this question to the KDevelop mailing list without any 
response.

I want to write a little programm using posix threads. I started with a 
C/Terminal Application created by the kde application wizard. Then I go to 
the linker options and write "-lpthread" in the additional libraries field as 
described in the KDevelop user manual, section 9.4. After this I get a lot of 
messages (see below) when i compile the project. The programm starts but 
without any changes. It seems that it would not be recompiled. Running "make 
distclean; ./configure; make" manually in a shell works fine.
Is this a bug in KDevelop or what must i do to solve this problem?

By the way, I'm using KDevelop 2.1 with KDE 2.2.2

Hope for help,
Torsten


Messages from KDevelop:
<--- snip ---
Reading makefiles...
Reading makefile `/home/torwo/projects/programming/c/ctest1/Makefile'...
Updating makefiles
 Considering target file `/home/torwo/projects/programming/c/ctest1/Makefile'.
  Looking for an implicit rule for 
`/home/torwo/projects/programming/c/ctest1/Makefile'.
  Trying pattern rule with stem `Makefile'.
  Trying implicit prerequisite 
`/home/torwo/projects/programming/c/ctest1/Makefile,v'.
  Trying pattern rule with stem `Makefile'.
  Trying implicit prerequisite 
`/home/torwo/projects/programming/c/ctest1/RCS/Makefile,v'.
  Trying pattern rule with stem `Makefile'.
  Trying implicit prerequisite 
`/home/torwo/projects/programming/c/ctest1/RCS/Makefile'.
  Trying pattern rule with stem `Makefile'.
  Trying implicit prerequisite 
`/home/torwo/projects/programming/c/ctest1/s.Makefile'.
  Trying pattern rule with stem `Makefile'.
  Trying implicit prerequisite 
`/home/torwo/projects/programming/c/ctest1/SCCS/s.Makefile'.
  No implicit rule found for 
`/home/torwo/projects/programming/c/ctest1/Makefile'.
  Finished prerequisites of target file 
`/home/torwo/projects/programming/c/ctest1/Makefile'.
 No need to remake target 
`/home/torwo/projects/programming/c/ctest1/Makefile'.
Updating goal targets
Considering target file `all'.
 File `all' does not exist.
  Considering target file `docs-am'.
   Looking for an implicit rule for `docs-am'.
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   Trying pattern rule with stem `docs-am'.
   Trying implicit prerequisite `RCS/docs-am'.
   Trying pattern rule with stem `docs-am'.
   Trying implicit prerequisite `s.docs-am'.
   Trying pattern rule with stem `docs-am'.
   Trying implicit prerequisite `SCCS/s.docs-am'.
   No implicit rule found for `docs-am'.
   Finished prerequisites of target file `docs-am'.
  No commands for `docs-am' and no prerequisites actually changed.
  No need to remake target `docs-am'.
  Considering target file `all-redirect'.
   File `all-redirect' does not exist.
    Considering target file `all-recursive-am'.
     File `all-recursive-am' does not exist.
      Considering target file `config.h'.
        Considering target file `stamp-h'.
          Considering target file `config.h.in'.
            Considering target file `stamp-h.in'.
              Considering target file `configure.in'.
                Considering target file `configure.in.in'.
                 Looking for an implicit rule for `configure.in.in'.
                 Trying pattern rule with stem `configure.in.in'.
                 Trying implicit prerequisite `configure.in.in,v'.
                 Trying pattern rule with stem `configure.in.in'.
                 Trying implicit prerequisite `RCS/configure.in.in,v'.
                 Trying pattern rule with stem `configure.in.in'.
                 Trying implicit prerequisite `RCS/configure.in.in'.
                 Trying pattern rule with stem `configure.in.in'.
                 Trying implicit prerequisite `s.configure.in.in'.

     <--- Here was more of this stuff --->
    
Successfully remade target file `all-am'.
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/torwo/projects/programming/c/ctest1'
Got a SIGCHLD; 1 unreaped children.
Reaping winning child 0x08071e68 PID 21035 
Removing child 0x08071e68 PID 21035  from chain.
Successfully remade target file `all-recursive'.
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/torwo/projects/programming/c/ctest1'
Got a SIGCHLD; 1 unreaped children.
Reaping winning child 0x080760f0 PID 21034 
Removing child 0x080760f0 PID 21034  from chain.
    Successfully remade target file `all-recursive-am'.
   Finished prerequisites of target file `all-redirect'.
  Must remake target `all-redirect'.
  Successfully remade target file `all-redirect'.
 Finished prerequisites of target file `all'.
Must remake target `all'.
Successfully remade target file `all'.
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Re: Server

[Florian Struck]

On Tuesday 17 September 2002 19:56, Florian Struck wrote:
> Hi all
> Since our in our company we have all our correspondence and developement
> files locally on the workstations and the only access other workers have to
> those files is MSfilesharing (yuck...puke...) i am thinking of setting up a
> debian server primarily used for Fileserver(samba)/databaseserver(mysql)
> and eventually printserver(cups), webserver(apache).
> I even thought of giving fish access to the boss  :-).
>
> Here the specs of the machine im thinking of buying for that (own assembly
> cause a proprietary server (IBM, HP...) is pretty expensive):
>
>
> 1x MBP TYAN TIGER MP/S2460/Dual SKTA/ATX AMD-760MP Chip
>
> 2x AMD ATHLON K7 MP+ 1900 Sockel-A
>
> 1x ADVANCE 2941U BUSINESS KIT scsi controler
>
> 2x IBM UltraStar IC35L018 UW-SCSI 18.2GB 1u/min
>
> 1x GEH ATX SERVERTOWER 350Watt ZH-911-350
>
> 1x (B) NE2000 100MBit RJ45 PCI
>
> 256 to 512 MB of RAM
>
> + Tape streamer
>
> (Costs all together about a quarter of a equal proprietary server pheeew!)
>
> Now my question is if someone knows a good and possibly easy :-) way of
> setting up mirroring of the disks and setting up a backup job to tape every
> night if you know any URL`s and tutorials (i've never set it up before,
> though i know pretty well how to handle debian machines so it should be
> debian specific info's)
> I would be very pleased.
> Best regards and ... ah ja before i forget ... debian ROCKS!!!
>
> :-)
>
> Thx
> Florian

ps:
And tell me also if you have had experience with that hardware before or if i 
should use different components. 
Thx
Florian


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Re: How to check a set of Woody CD's for integrity

[Raghavendra Bhat]

Vineet Kumar:

>> If it doesn't, then think about digging deeper to find out what differs

I have  had downloaded the  ISO images and  the checksums match.  A  small doubt
though, I can burn CD-Rs using these  images without any hitch.  But when I do a
`dd' of the resultant CD/s, the generated image md5sum differs from the original
md5sum  of  the  downloaded  ISO.   Why  is  it so  ?   Is  it  due  to  control
data/something else being added to the CD during the `cdrecord' burn process ?

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Re: 3com 905B-TX won't work?

[nate]

Bram Jessen said:
> hey,
> my network card won't work in debian (the card itself works under
> redhat/mandrake and windows) so I was wondering if I have to anything
> special to make it work under debian (it ain't on the "driver module"
> list, at least, I can't find it)
>
> (I am a linux n00b, but I ain't learning anything from mandrake, so
> trying debian now :)


if your referring to the module list for the installation, and
if your really sure your using the 905B-TX the driver should be called
3c59x, and is part of at least the debian 2.2 installer, haven't tried
the 3.0 installer yet ..

nate




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Re: imap

[Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder]

On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 17:58, Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote:
> --Adrian von Bidder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote

[postfix == open relay??]

> There's one setting that's standard in the "main.cf" file that
> supposedly turns off the open relay:
> relay_domains = *.yourdomain.tld

As I usually don't relay on a per domain basis, I take this one out
entirely.

> However, I discovered that even with this set properly, I was still
> being used as an open relay -- in testing, I even ssh'd to a server
> across the country with which I had set up no trust relationship vis a
> vis smtp, and was able to send email via my server to a yahoo account.
> What I discovered needed to be set was the following:
> smtpd_client_restrictions = permit_mynetworks, reject_unknown_client
> 
> and this line needs to occur before the relay_domains setting. After I'd
> done so, any connections to my smtp server outside my local network were
> denied.

Hmmm. I need to receive mail on my mailserver, so this one doesn't work
just like that for me.

I don't have anything special in my main.cf, there's just myorigin,
mydestination and mynetworks (as relevant. A few others, but they don't
influence relaying).

I've just run a few tests and can't see any successful relaying. The
only thing that slightly annoys me with postfix is that it acceppts all
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mail, and has consequently always a few
undeliverable bounces in its queue. But that's not a relay.

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question about editors for lil.conf and other configuration files

[Scott B. Berry]

Hello everyone,

I am wondering if there are any other editors included in the base system
besides
vi?  I don't care for it much.  If not, how can I get some other editors to
and other programs. i don't havemy modem set up yet but definitely need
something differnt.
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Re: question about editors for lil.conf and other configuration files

[nate]

Scott B. Berry said:
> Hello everyone,
>
> I am wondering if there are any other editors included in the base system
> besides
> vi?  I don't care for it much.  If not, how can I get some other editors
> to and other programs. i don't havemy modem set up yet but definitely
> need something differnt.


I believe both ae and ed are available as part of the base system. though
you'll probably like vi more ..

nate




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Re: How to check a set of Woody CD's for integrity

[Frank Gevaerts]

On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 08:53:45PM +0200, Peter Hugosson-Miller wrote:
> Vineet Kumar wrote:
> 
> > * Peter Hugosson-Miller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [020917 11:38]:
> > > I have just purchased a complete set of 14 Woody CDs (7 binary, 7
> >
> > > Does anyone have a suggestion of how to check the integrity of the
> > > complete set? I first thought of a recursive directory listing,
> > which
> >
> > > can't figure out a foolproof method myself. My only vague idea was
> > to
> > > make a chacksum of all the files on the disk, but I don't know how
> > (yet)
> > > and I'd need som real checksums to check them against ;-).
> >
> > Get the checksums for the entire disc images from the cdimage site and
> >
> > check that.  Don't bother with trying to check each individual file
> > and
> > directory, just check that the whole image matches.  If it doesn't,
> > then
> > think about digging deeper to find out what differs, or simply contact
> >
> > the vendor to see why they differ, and if your checksum matches what
> > they think it should be.
> 
> Thanks for your swift answer, Vineet.
> 
> OK, I think I can find the checksums from the cdimage site, but I
> wouldn't know where to start to check them against CD's that are already
> burned, i.e not CD-images. Perhaps you could point me in the right
> direction.

easy:

md5sum /dev/cdrom

(files and devices are often interchangeable in unix/linux)

If you do not have access to a linux/unix machine, I wouldn't know

Frank

> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> --
> Best regards,
> 
> Peter Hugosson-Miller
> "Faber est suae quisque fortunae."
> 

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Re: question about editors for lil.conf and other configuration files

[Bob Nielsen]

nano is included in base, I believe.  It is a clone of pico, which is
the default editor for pine.

On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 01:49:37PM -0600, Scott B. Berry wrote:
> Hello everyone,
> 
> I am wondering if there are any other editors included in the base system
> besides
> vi?  I don't care for it much.  If not, how can I get some other editors to
> and other programs. i don't havemy modem set up yet but definitely need
> something differnt.
> Scott Berry
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Re: question about editors for lil.conf and other configuration files

[Craig Dickson]

nate wrote:

> I believe both ae and ed are available as part of the base system. though
> you'll probably like vi more ..

No, ae is history as far as Debian's concerned. It's not in Woody at all.
And ed, of course, is not a full-screen editor.

Other small editors to consider are joe and nano.

Craig


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Re: question about editors for lil.conf and other configuration files

[jeff]

> Hello everyone,
>
> I am wondering if there are any other editors
included in the base system
> besides
> vi?  I don't care for it much.  If not, how can
I get some other editors to
> and other programs. i don't havemy modem set up
yet but definitely need
> something differnt.
> Scott Berry

i would have to say, NANO! very easy to learn and
use and won't have you feeling around for commands
like vi. don't get me wrong, vi rocks...  but to
each, his own. you do have a woody disc, right?
:-D

rock on!

-jeff


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Re: question about editors for lil.conf and other configuration files

[Steve Waterman]

ee is a nice one to use, too, and should be on the disk.  Easiest one I've 
found . . .


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> Hello everyone,
> 
> I am wondering if there are any other editors included in the base system
> besides
> vi?  I don't care for it much.  If not, how can I get some other editors to
> and other programs. i don't havemy modem set up yet but definitely need
> something differnt.
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dselect fails to install mozilla-browser after upgrade to woody

[Levi Waldron]

I've successfully upgraded to Woody and am now just trying to install Mozilla 
and its components.  dselect gives the following output and fails to install. 
 Any ideas?


cedar:/home/lwaldron# dselect
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  mozilla mozilla-browser mozilla-mailnews mozilla-psm mozilla-xmlterm
0 packages upgraded, 5 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0  not upgraded.
Need to get 12.0MB of archives. After unpacking 31.6MB will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n]
Get:1 http://http.us.debian.org stable/main mozilla-browser 2:1.0.0-0.woody.1 
[9794kB]
Get:2 http://http.us.debian.org stable/main mozilla-mailnews 
2:1.0.0-0.woody.1 [1928kB]
Get:3 http://http.us.debian.org stable/main mozilla-psm 2:1.0.0-0.woody.1 
[208kB]
Get:4 http://http.us.debian.org stable/main mozilla 2:1.0.0-0.woody.1 [1160B]
Get:5 http://http.us.debian.org stable/main mozilla-xmlterm 2:1.0.0-0.woody.1 
[116kB]
Fetched 12.0MB in 2m14s (89.8kB/s)
Preconfiguring packages ...
mozilla-browser failed to preconfigure, with exit status 128
(Reading database ... 93771 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking mozilla-browser (from 
.../mozilla-browser_2%3a1.0.0-0.woody.1_i386.deb) ...
Unpacking mozilla-mailnews (from 
.../mozilla-mailnews_2%3a1.0.0-0.woody.1_i386.deb) ...
Unpacking mozilla-psm (from .../mozilla-psm_2%3a1.0.0-0.woody.1_i386.deb) ...
Unpacking mozilla (from .../mozilla_2%3a1.0.0-0.woody.1_i386.deb) ...
Unpacking mozilla-xmlterm (from 
.../mozilla-xmlterm_2%3a1.0.0-0.woody.1_i386.deb) ...
Setting up mozilla-browser (1.0.0-0.woody.1) ...
dpkg: error processing mozilla-browser (--configure):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 30
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of mozilla-mailnews:
 mozilla-mailnews depends on mozilla-browser (= 2:1.0.0-0.woody.1); however:
  Package mozilla-browser is not configured yet.
dpkg: error processing mozilla-mailnews (--configure):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of mozilla-psm:
 mozilla-psm depends on mozilla-browser (= 2:1.0.0-0.woody.1); however:
  Package mozilla-browser is not configured yet.
dpkg: error processing mozilla-psm (--configure):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of mozilla:
 mozilla depends on mozilla-browser (= 2:1.0.0-0.woody.1); however:
  Package mozilla-browser is not configured yet.
 mozilla depends on mozilla-mailnews (= 2:1.0.0-0.woody.1); 
however:cedar:/home/lwaldron# dselect
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  mozilla mozilla-browser mozilla-mailnews mozilla-psm mozilla-xmlterm
0 packages upgraded, 5 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0  not upgraded.
Need to get 12.0MB of archives. After unpacking 31.6MB will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n]
Get:1 http://http.us.debian.org stable/main mozilla-browser 2:1.0.0-0.woody.1 
[9794kB]
Get:2 http://http.us.debian.org stable/main mozilla-mailnews 
2:1.0.0-0.woody.1 [1928kB]
Get:3 http://http.us.debian.org stable/main mozilla-psm 2:1.0.0-0.woody.1 
[208kB]
Get:4 http://http.us.debian.org stable/main mozilla 2:1.0.0-0.woody.1 [1160B]
Get:5 http://http.us.debian.org stable/main mozilla-xmlterm 2:1.0.0-0.woody.1 
[116kB]
Fetched 12.0MB in 2m14s (89.8kB/s)
Preconfiguring packages ...
mozilla-browser failed to preconfigure, with exit status 128
(Reading database ... 93771 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking mozilla-browser (from 
.../mozilla-browser_2%3a1.0.0-0.woody.1_i386.deb) ...
Unpacking mozilla-mailnews (from 
.../mozilla-mailnews_2%3a1.0.0-0.woody.1_i386.deb) ...
Unpacking mozilla-psm (from .../mozilla-psm_2%3a1.0.0-0.woody.1_i386.deb) ...
Unpacking mozilla (from .../mozilla_2%3a1.0.0-0.woody.1_i386.deb) ...
Unpacking mozilla-xmlterm (from 
.../mozilla-xmlterm_2%3a1.0.0-0.woody.1_i386.deb) ...
Setting up mozilla-browser (1.0.0-0.woody.1) ...
dpkg: error processing mozilla-browser (--configure):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 30
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of mozilla-mailnews:
 mozilla-mailnews depends on mozilla-browser (= 2:1.0.0-0.woody.1); however:
  Package mozilla-browser is not configured yet.
dpkg: error processing mozilla-mailnews (--configure):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of mozilla-psm:
 mozilla-psm depends on mozilla-browser (= 2:1.0.0-0.woody.1); however:
  Package mozilla-browser is not configured yet.
dpkg: error processing mozilla-psm (--configure):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of mozilla:
 mozilla depends on mozilla-browser (= 2:1.0.0-0.woody.1); however:
  Package mozilla-browser is not configured yet.
 mozilla depends on mozilla-mailnews (= 2:1.0.0-0.woody.1); however:
  Package mozilla-

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Re: Need witnesses

[csj]

On Mon, 16 Sep 2002 20:11:34 -0700
Craig Dickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  > Ok I see the names and organization you speak of. So what does this
>  > mean? Is this some sort of thing that MS word is putting in the
>  > .doc that it isn't supposed to?
> 
>  Not so much that it isn't supposed to, but that people don't always
>  realize it does. MS Word files have a number of data fields that are
>  visible in the file properties dialog, but people often don't look
>  there. Word also has a tendency to populate those fields with default
>  values such as the name and organization that is the registered owner
>  of that copy of Word. I think this is what Bruce is interested in --
>  the idea is that this Jack MacCrisken either isn't quite who he says
>  he is, or that the letter may have been written for him by others who
>  prefer not to take credit for it.

That never proves anything. I know of some people who fill the
software registration field with Captain Kirk. I imagine someone could
"register" his copy of win98 or winword as old Bill himself.

BTW why am I replying to this? Was the original post perhaps missent to
Debian-User?


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Re: PCMCIA isa bridge

[Osamu Aoki]

Hi,

On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 03:06:57PM +, sven petterson wrote:
> Hello
> 
> I have a "Vadem VG-469 rev 00 ISA-to-PCMCIA at port 0x3e2 ofs 0x00" board 
> and i can't get it to work under 2.4.18.
> 
> Under 2.2.20 both the i82365 and yenta_socket PCIC works and loads drivers 
> for the cards i put in the device.
> 
> In 2.4.18 i82365 says "unresolved symbol isapnp_find_dev_R9991be23" or 
> similar, ive heard before you have to change PCIC to yenta_socket but under 
> 2.4.18 it tells me there isnt any device. ":No device" and not much more.
> 
> I have tried both the pcmcia-cs and in-kernel drivers.
> 
> What might i do?

Did you do "insmod isapnp" or something like this to enable PnP ISA bus
support (/etc/modules).  More on  my kernel chapter of "Debian
Reference".
> _
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Which file do I use to configure networking these days?

[Joe Emenaker]

Okay folks today is "cleanin' out my closet" 
day as far as Debian problems goes, so you'll probably see a handfull of 
questions from me today. Try to be patient and gentle.
 
First off, I've been using Debian for quite some 
time 4 or 5 years now, I guess. Back then, you had to set your IP addresses 
in "/etc/init.d/network" by adding/modifying the actual "ifconfig" and "route" 
commands.
 
Over the years, the "blessed" place to modify your 
IP settings seems to have moved around. From what I can tell, 
"/etc/init.d/network" has been phased out in favor of "/etc/init.d/networking" 
which seems to involve other scripts in /etc/pcmcia, /etc/network, and 
/etc/default.
 
So, where does one go, nowadays to:
 - Set an interface's IP address or to enable 
it for DHCP?
 - Change whether it comes up automatically or 
has to be brought up manually?
 - Set IP address or DHCP for PCMCIA 
cards?
 
Also, is there a cheat-sheet somewhere of where all 
of the prefered config files are now? It seems that, with each release, there 
are always some big changes in how some big services are 
configured.
 
- Joe

need advice on building packages from source

[Cameron Matheson]

Hi,

I played around w/ gentoo a few months ago (and promptly came back to 
debian (i missed apt) ).   But i do miss the optimization i experienced 
w/ gentoo (despite what everyone says, there was a very noticeable 
difference in performance on my machine between debian and gentoo), so i 
did some searching and found this stuff on debianplanet:


There have been several discussions about building Debian from source. I 
hacked together a script today that will rebuild all installed packages 
-- it's written in perl and operates very smoothly.
The URL for my script is 
http://www.rootshell.be/~kp2sushi/source_builder.pl 
.

*Robot101*: Yes, the idea of building everything from source has been 
discussed before here , 
here , here 
, here 
, and here 
. The general consensus 
is that it's a bit of a time-waster except for building optimised 
versions of a handful of CPU intensive packages such as bzip, gzip , 
mozilla and glibc. After woody releases, we may see support for this 
added to dpkg and apt, allowing a few select packages to ship with 
optimised versions where appropriate.


I dont' really want to build everything from source (that takes way too 
long on my k6-2), but i was thinking maybe compiling glibc, moz, 
(g|bz)ip, etc might be a good thing... what would be the best way to go 
about this?

Thanks,
Cameron Matheson




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xlibs_4.1.0-14_i386.deb

[Ionel Mugurel Ciobica]

Hi,

I am looking for xlibs_4.1.0-14_i386.deb and
xlibs-dev_4.1.0-14_i386.deb. Can someone point me
where can I find it? I search at debian site, but only
xlibs_4.1.0-16_i386.deb and xlibs-dev_4.1.0-16_i386.deb
can be found, or newer. I need 14.

Please cc me.

Thank you,
Ionel


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Re: need advice on building packages from source

[Sean 'Shaleh' Perry]

On Tuesday 17 September 2002 14:40, Cameron Matheson wrote:
>
> I dont' really want to build everything from source (that takes way too
> long on my k6-2), but i was thinking maybe compiling glibc, moz,
> (g|bz)ip, etc might be a good thing... what would be the best way to go
> about this?
>

two packages: pbuilder and pentium-builder.  One makes a chroot for compiling 
apps in the other wraps gcc and causes it to use machine level optimizations.


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Re: Problems with Virtualdub and WIne

[Ronald Castillo]

On Tuesday 17 September 2002 15:12, Klaus Imgrund wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Sep 2002 08:58:42 -0700 (PDT)
>
> "nate" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Ronald Castillo said:
> > > Greetings..
> > >
> > > I'm trying to run VirtualDub 1.4.9 using Wine (latest version) but I
> > > get the  following problem:
> >
> > looks like you may need WineX to get it running:
> >
> > http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?appId=438&versionId=621
>
> Well - I got it running with winex - sort of.
> The gui comes up and it plays some mpg's.But I can't get it to do
> anything so far because it won't find any codecs no matter where I put
> them.
> So it basically I can't do anything with it so far.
> Anybody knows where are you supposed to stick the codecs?
>
> Klaus

I have made it start by erasing a dll file I had in my program's folder.  I 
installed the Divx codec (download it from divx.com and install it using 
wine) but when I try to install the MP3 codec (Roxium, I believe) it just 
hangs my system.  I also tried to install this one using wine (running the 
install program).

If anyone knows how to install a MP3 codec I would appreciate your help.

Ronald


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Re: Dibian on Gigabyte GA-7VRXP motherboard.

[pCarlo]

Hello,

May be I found the problem.
My new PC is installed by default with Windows XP, I discover that the file
system of the Hard disk is NTFS, rather than FAT or FAT32.

I guess that the installer of my Suse version does not support this file
system (I do not found anythink relating about the NTFS on SuSe site).

Does Debian support the NTFS (I cannot found anythink as the search engine
on Debian site is temporarily unavailable).

If my supposition is correct I 'm afraid that I'll have to re-format on
FAT32 my Hard Disk.

What do you think about ?

Thanks again for your help.



- Original Message -
From: "Robert Ian Smit" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 9:21 AM
Subject: Re: Dibian on Gigabyte GA-7VRXP motherboard.


> On Mon, Sep 16, 2002 at 12:18:34AM +0200, pCarlowrote:
> >   I had a previous version of linux distribution (SuSE 7.1), which
> >   works fine on my previous PC. Since I changed my PC, it was not
> >   possible to install the SuSE distribution (the Suse installer
> >   does not found the Hard Disk ), because the GA-7VRXP do not have
> >   the update drivers for linux ( the reseller said, because the
> >   motherboard type is to much recent).
>
> That's weird. Those new hard disk controllers are usually (always?)
> backward compatible. If you don't include native support in the
> kernel for a new chipset, you will not get the system to run as fast
> as it possibly can, but access to disks should not be a problem.
>
> Does anything, say Windows, run on the machine? Maybe you have a
> hardware problem or the BIOS is not setup correctly.
>
> (BTW harware gurus are not always Linux gurus. In my experience they
> really hate to use software, they'd rather work on their cooling) ;)
>
> >   Then I search for a distribution which may be support this type
> >   of news motherboard, to install correctly a linux distribution.
> >   I search this information on the Debian site but I do not found
> >   clearly if this type of motherboard was supported. Does it ?
>
> If it is a KT333 motherboard, probably yes. I am not sure what
> extra devices (sound, lan, video, whatever) Gigabyte includes on the
> board. But the basics should work. After that you optimize to
> get the performance, you upgraded for in the first place.
>
> >   May be the Debian distribution should respond to my problem ? I
> >   hope. I'll appreciate any suggestion.
>
> You might get lucky here. But any Linux distribution should to the
> trick. Just the fact that you don't see a designed for... or
> optimized for... slogan does not mean you are SOL.
>
> Give it a try. It will be at least much easier to answer questions
> regarding issues you might encounter.
>
> Bob
>
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Re: Need witnesses

[Joel Baker]

On Mon, Sep 16, 2002 at 07:15:13PM -0700, Bruce Perens wrote:
> Folks,
> 
> Please download
> 
> http://www.softwarechoice.org/download_files/Maccrisken.Letter.doc .
> 
> Please be prepared to stand as witnesses when I expose some odd things in the
> file . If you run strings on the file, at the end are a few names that are not
> meant to be visible in the file. They are names, probably of other participants
> in the creation of the document - two people and an organization. I need
> witnesses that those contents were on their site and were not something I made
> up.
> 
> Oh, this is going to be fun.
> 
>   Thanks
> 
>   Bruce

Downloaded at 16:22:49 2002-09-17 -0700, with the following md5sum:

cc13acf991915d89c89438a9e4c1709a  Maccrisken.Letter.doc
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latest msttcorefonts broken?

[DvB]

I ran an apt-get upgrade a while back, which upgraded my msttcorefonts
package. Ever since then mozilla, which I had configured to use the
monotype-arial-iso8859-1 fontset from that package keeps printing the
following error message over and over (but doesn't appear to be causing
any other problems), even after I reset the fonts to the default values:

The font
"-*-*-medium-r-*-*-16-*-*-*-*-*-*-*,-*-*-*-r-*-*-16-*-*-*-*-*-*-*,-*-*-*-*-*-*-16-*-*-*-*-*-*-*"
does not support all the required character sets for the current locale
"C"
  (Missing character set "ISO8859-1")


Any ideas as to how I might fix this?


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Re: Mondo and Midniight Commander

[Micha Wiedenmann]

Hi,

on 16.09.2002 you wrote:

[...]

>No fear! Mondo allows you to include anything at all to use during
>boot-up. I would like to use MC (Midnight Commander) during boot-up to
>look at things and put straight Lilo and Fstab. This is what I have in
>/usr/share/local/mindi/deplist.txt:

Why don't you use mindi and a CD-RW until you get MC to run?

HTH, Micha

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end to poke into the enemy.
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mozilla too many process

[Seiichiro Tanizaki]

Hi,

When I lunch mozilla,  it takes about 80M of memory with seven processes 
running.

tanizaki   571  4.1  7.0 54220 36608 ?   S18:30   0:53 
/usr/lib/mozilla/mozilla-bin
tanizaki   580  0.0  7.0 54220 36608 ?   S18:30   0:00 
/usr/lib/mozilla/mozilla-bin
tanizaki   581  0.0  7.0 54220 36608 ?   S18:30   0:00 
/usr/lib/mozilla/mozilla-bin
tanizaki   582  0.0  7.0 54220 36608 ?   S18:30   0:00 
/usr/lib/mozilla/mozilla-bin
tanizaki   584  0.0  7.0 54220 36608 ?   S18:30   0:00 
/usr/lib/mozilla/mozilla-bin
tanizaki   585  0.0  7.0 54220 36608 ?   S18:30   0:00 
/usr/lib/mozilla/mozilla-bin
tanizaki   586  0.0  7.0 54220 36608 ?   S18:30   0:00 
/usr/lib/mozilla/mozilla-bin

I can't figure it out.  Does anyone have same problem or is it supposed 
to be like this?

Sincerely,

Seiichiro Tanizaki



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