Re: [misran@vlug.vein.hu: debian hpt370 raid]

2002-05-15 Thread Miroslav Mazurek
Tue, 14 May 2002 17:57:28 +0200 "Josip Rodin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


AFAIK (I have EPOX with same hpt370) you should connect CD board controller 
(ide0 or ide1) and then you can boot potato with no problems. But, potato has 
2.2.x kernel and support for hpt370 is included in 2.4.x kernel, so you need to 
update kernel after installing potato on one of first four disks (ide0 or 
ide1). How could you put 5th disk on normal (standard) ATA controller since it 
is capable of holding just 4?

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> Subject: debian hpt370 raid
> 
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>   Hi There,
> 
>   I have a question, hopefully short enough worth answering :),
> thank You for the answer in advance.
> 
>   Q: - How to install debian linux on a 4 disk raid 0+1 array (abit
> th7 ii motherboard with 4 60Gb Ide IBM disks, with hpt370 onboard ide raid
> controller ) .
> 
>   Boot cd doeans't work (potato). Someone suggested to put in a 5th
> hdd to the normal controller, install debian with raid support on it
> ,mount the array and put debian on it. Is this the only way, or have I
> other options , too?
> 
>   Thank You, Best Regards,
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woody installation problem

2002-05-15 Thread Aaron Anderson



I'm trying to install Woody however I'm having 
problems with the installation.  When I try to install the base system from 
the internet (http.us.debian.org), I get "Invalid Release file, no main 
components".  I've tried the vanilla and bf-2.4 set of disks but both 
produce the same error.  I've also tried other mirrors but I get the same 
error.  Has anyone encountered the same problem?  
 
Aaron


making dos partitions: help

2002-05-15 Thread Dan
Hello! I need to create a simple bootable fat32 partition.
Partitioning, making it active, writing correct MBR isn't a real problem.
Formatting that partition is trivial as well- mkdosfs -F32 device, but then 
the REAL problem begins. Is there a simple way to transfer usual msdos 
bootloader + system files without messing with BPB/FAT? I've tinkered with 
mkdosfs, replacing its dummy bootloader with msdos one. It does start, but 
still refuses to boot io.sys, due to io-errors (yes, I've placed io.sys + 
msdos.sys correctly and double-checked the FAT). 

What's the solution? Of course, using dosemu + dexe to run "sys source: 
target:" still works, but I'd like to do that using native linux tools.
Another way is to create a small bootable partition and use dd to read/write 
image, but this way will work for this particular case only, cause some 
specific info is still located in BPB/FAT table. :(

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jde

2002-05-15 Thread Oki DZ

Hi,

I tried to install jde; it said that it depended on semantic 1.4. 
Unfortunately, even in sid, the version of semantic is 1.3. How can I resolve 
this?


Thanks in advance,
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Re: Setting effective UID for a shell script

2002-05-15 Thread Alberto Cabello Sanchez
As far as I know, you can't. I think you have to setuid() and exec() in
a, say, C compiled program.

El Tue, May 14, 2002 at 11:05:08PM -0500, Alex Malinovich escribió:
> How can I set the effective UID for a shell script? I've got a script
> which checks if xscreensaver is running and if not, starts it and then
> activates it. However, the script always gets run as root (it's being
> run as an APM script). This doesn't work if I'm logged in as myself
> since xscreensaver will think it's dealing with root.
> 
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Evolution quits while recieving mail

2002-05-15 Thread Michael D. Crawford

I have several thousand messages awaiting me on my POP server.

A couple times now, when attempting to receive them with Evolution 1.0.2-1, it 
receives some mail but then I get the message:


"The Evolution component that handles folders of type "mail" has unexpectedly 
quit.  You will need to quit Evolution and restart in order to access that data 
again."


I am using a Debian unstable PowerPC system on a Macintosh 8500 with a 
PowerLogix G4 CPU upgrade.


My existing mail folders have tens of thousands of messages (thanks to mailing 
lists).  I do have plenty of disk space left.


I think there is a later Evolution version available, but there doesn't seem to 
be a debian package for PowerPC later than 1.0.2-1.  Is there a later PowerPC 
debian package I can obtain somewhere?


Thanks,

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Re: making dos partitions: help

2002-05-15 Thread Tom Cook
On  0, Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello! I need to create a simple bootable fat32 partition.
> Partitioning, making it active, writing correct MBR isn't a real problem.
> Formatting that partition is trivial as well- mkdosfs -F32 device, but then 
> the REAL problem begins. Is there a simple way to transfer usual msdos 
> bootloader + system files without messing with BPB/FAT? I've tinkered with 
> mkdosfs, replacing its dummy bootloader with msdos one. It does start, but 
> still refuses to boot io.sys, due to io-errors (yes, I've placed io.sys + 
> msdos.sys correctly and double-checked the FAT). 
> 
> What's the solution? Of course, using dosemu + dexe to run "sys source: 
> target:" still works, but I'd like to do that using native linux tools.
> Another way is to create a small bootable partition and use dd to read/write 
> image, but this way will work for this particular case only, cause some 
> specific info is still located in BPB/FAT table. :(

I have a favourite way and a not-favourite way.  The favourite way
goes like this:

Use linux fdisk to create the partition space but not the partition.
Use a DOS boot disk to do the rest.

The not-favourite way goes like this:

do everything you've been doing, up to using mkdosfs to create the fs,
then use dd to copy an MBR (and sector 0 boot sector?) to the
partition.

Should do the trick...

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Re: Shell script anomaly

2002-05-15 Thread Tom Cook
On  0, Alex Malinovich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 2002-05-14 at 22:06, Craig Dickson wrote:
> > I cannot reproduce your symptoms. Whether I type your code in at the
> > shell prompt or run it in a script, it always behaves correctly.
> > 
> > You don't say what shell you're using (or what version); my tests were
> > performed using the version of bash 2.05a.0(1)-release from the Sid
> > package bash_2.05a-11.
> 
> GNU bash, version 2.05a.0(1)-release (i386-pc-linux-gnu)
> 
> as returned by bash --version
> 
> I just tried something else and now it's even stranger. If I don't
> specify a shell in the script, it works correctly. However using
> #!/bin/sh or #!/bin/bash results in errors. That's even stranger than
> the exit code being returned incorrectly.

ls -l /bin/sh /bin/bash

what does it say?  Are they the same executable as reported by:

grep $USER /etc/passwd

or whatever passwd you use?

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Re: Setting effective UID for a shell script

2002-05-15 Thread Tom Cook
On  0, Alberto Cabello Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As far as I know, you can't. I think you have to setuid() and exec() in
> a, say, C compiled program.

No, that's when you want to do it the other way around.

If you are root and want to run it as someone else, then:

su -c 

will do it without asking for a passwd.

If you are not root and want to run it as root, then:

 * Use one of the setuid script wrappers around.  I don't know of any
   off the top of my head, but they must be around.
 * Write your own setuid script wrapper in C.  It's not hard - it goes
   something like this:

#include 
int main( int argc, char** argv )
{
execve( argv[0], argv[1] );
return 0;
}

chown root setuidscriptwrapper
chmod u+sx setuidscriptwrapper

or something of that order.  Control *very* closely who has permission
to run this script.

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Re: word format

2002-05-15 Thread Ron Johnson
On Tue, 2002-05-14 at 22:59, Kirk Strauser wrote:
> 
> At 2002-05-15T03:46:45Z, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> > I was e-mailing a resume and the person could not open file.  He said to
> > use word format.  I wrote my resume in Microsoft works and then saved in
> > my documents and the e-mail him for AOL with attachments.  If you could
> > tell me what I did wrong I would appreciate it.
> 
>   1) You saved something in Word format
>   2) You used Microsoft Works
>   3) AOL was involved
>   4) This isn't remotely related to anything interesting
> 
> That's four things you did wrong right there.  Anything else?

It has to be a troll trying to cast flame bait in a pond where
he thinks the fish are biting.

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Re: making dos partitions: help

2002-05-15 Thread Ron Johnson
On Wed, 2002-05-15 at 06:57, Dan wrote:
> Hello! I need to create a simple bootable fat32 partition.
> Partitioning, making it active, writing correct MBR isn't a real problem.
> Formatting that partition is trivial as well- mkdosfs -F32 device, but then 
> the REAL problem begins. Is there a simple way to transfer usual msdos 
> bootloader + system files without messing with BPB/FAT? I've tinkered with 
> mkdosfs, replacing its dummy bootloader with msdos one. It does start, but 
> still refuses to boot io.sys, due to io-errors (yes, I've placed io.sys + 
> msdos.sys correctly and double-checked the FAT). 
> 
> What's the solution? Of course, using dosemu + dexe to run "sys source: 
> target:" still works, but I'd like to do that using native linux tools.
> Another way is to create a small bootable partition and use dd to read/write 
> image, but this way will work for this particular case only, cause some 
> specific info is still located in BPB/FAT table. :(

I think booting from a DOS floppy and saying "format/s c:" or
"sys c:" are the only legal methods.  The DOS partition starts
below cylinder 1023, right??

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Re: word format

2002-05-15 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Wed, 2002-05-15 at 04:46, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I was e-mailing a resume and the person could not open file.  He said to use 
> word format.  I wrote my resume in Microsoft works and then saved in my 
> documents and the e-mail him for AOL with attachments.  If you could tell me 
> what I did wrong I would appreciate it.  

Well apart from the wrongness of bothering a Debian  Linux list with
Microsoft problems, MS Works is not compatible with MS Word.  There is
no technical reason why this should be so; it's just a Microsoft device
to increase their profits.

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Re: Setting effective UID for a shell script

2002-05-15 Thread Eric G. Miller
On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 04:31:09PM +0930, Tom Cook wrote:
> On  0, Alberto Cabello Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > As far as I know, you can't. I think you have to setuid() and exec() in
> > a, say, C compiled program.
> 
> No, that's when you want to do it the other way around.

No. 'Cause if you don't have the priveledge already, a call to
setuid won't give it to you.  But, you can give up priveledge.

> If you are root and want to run it as someone else, then:
> su -c 
> 
> will do it without asking for a passwd.

If you're root, and want to run the command as another user, you
have to specify which user.  That is what the OP wanted to do.

> If you are not root and want to run it as root, then:
> 
>  * Use one of the setuid script wrappers around.  I don't know of any
>off the top of my head, but they must be around.
>
>  * Write your own setuid script wrapper in C.  It's not hard - it goes
>something like this:
> 
> #include 
> int main( int argc, char** argv )
> {
>   execve( argv[0], argv[1] );
>   return 0;
> }
> 
> chown root setuidscriptwrapper
> chmod u+sx setuidscriptwrapper
> 
> or something of that order.  Control *very* closely who has permission
> to run this script.

Lucky for you, you're wrapper won't compile.  Semantically, it'd invoke
endless recursion anyway.  All around, this is a bad idea.  You might as
well remove the root password.

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Re: Setting effective UID for a shell script

2002-05-15 Thread Tom Cook
Hmmm wasn't thinking very hard when I wrote that mail...

On  0, "Eric G. Miller"  wrote:
> On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 04:31:09PM +0930, Tom Cook wrote:
> > On  0, Alberto Cabello Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > As far as I know, you can't. I think you have to setuid() and exec() in
> > > a, say, C compiled program.
> > 
> > No, that's when you want to do it the other way around.
> 
> No. 'Cause if you don't have the priveledge already, a call to
> setuid won't give it to you.  But, you can give up priveledge.

If you have to setuid and exec to acheive what you want, then what you
are trying to do is become root, which is not what the OP was trying
to acheive.  The process he is running is already root and wants to
become him.  Therefore I say, no, that's when you want to do it the
other way around.

> > If you are root and want to run it as someone else, then:
> > su -c 
> > 
> > will do it without asking for a passwd.
> 
> If you're root, and want to run the command as another user, you
> have to specify which user.  That is what the OP wanted to do.

You are correct.  I should have written:

su $MY_USER_ID -c 

> > If you are not root and want to run it as root, then:
> > 
> >  * Use one of the setuid script wrappers around.  I don't know of any
> >off the top of my head, but they must be around.
> >
> >  * Write your own setuid script wrapper in C.  It's not hard - it goes
> >something like this:
> > 
> > #include 
> > int main( int argc, char** argv )
> > {
> > execve( argv[0], argv[1] );
> > return 0;
> > }
> > 
> > chown root setuidscriptwrapper
> > chmod u+sx setuidscriptwrapper
> > 
> > or something of that order.  Control *very* closely who has permission
> > to run this script.
> 
> Lucky for you, you're wrapper won't compile.  Semantically, it'd invoke
> endless recursion anyway.  All around, this is a bad idea.  You might as
> well remove the root password.

Yes, this was not well thought out, and was significantly divergent
from what the original poster wanted anyway so I don't know why I went
into it.

However, you are not entirely correct.  This does, in fact, compile,
with the exception of the type of execve for execv.  It also, funnily
enough, doesn't loop infinitely, which makes me think that the execv
call is just failing.  I am Interested, but not enough to figure out
Why.

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Re: word format

2002-05-15 Thread Ron Johnson
On Wed, 2002-05-15 at 02:14, Oliver Elphick wrote:
> On Wed, 2002-05-15 at 04:46, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[snip]
> Microsoft problems, MS Works is not compatible with MS Word.  There is
> no technical reason why this should be so; it's just a Microsoft device
> to increase their profits.

I bet there is a technical reason why Works can't read Word & Excel
files: there are so many different things that you can put in a Word
doc, for example, (TOC, footnotes, endnotes, images, bibliographies,
etc) that by the time you gave works the ability to read it, it would
become Word itself.

This is why SO6/OO6 can render .doc files better than AbiWord.

A variation on a standard aphorism:
   Small, Fast, Featureful.  Pick any 2.

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Re: making dos partitions: help

2002-05-15 Thread Ernst-Magne Vindal
On Wed, 2002-05-15 at 09:11, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On Wed, 2002-05-15 at 06:57, Dan wrote:
> > Hello! I need to create a simple bootable fat32 partition.
> > Partitioning, making it active, writing correct MBR isn't a real problem.
> > Formatting that partition is trivial as well- mkdosfs -F32 device, but then 
> > the REAL problem begins. Is there a simple way to transfer usual msdos 
> > bootloader + system files without messing with BPB/FAT? I've tinkered with 
> > mkdosfs, replacing its dummy bootloader with msdos one. It does start, but 
> > still refuses to boot io.sys, due to io-errors (yes, I've placed io.sys + 
> > msdos.sys correctly and double-checked the FAT). 
> > 
> > What's the solution? Of course, using dosemu + dexe to run "sys source: 
> > target:" still works, but I'd like to do that using native linux tools.
> > Another way is to create a small bootable partition and use dd to 
> > read/write 
> > image, but this way will work for this particular case only, cause some 
> > specific info is still located in BPB/FAT table. :(
> 
> I think booting from a DOS floppy and saying "format/s c:" or
> "sys c:" are the only legal methods.  The DOS partition starts
> below cylinder 1023, right??

I agree with you in the latter option, run sys c: from a msdos bootdisk,
it will transfer the system files to the c: partition, But I think then
that the partition must stand as activ, but I'm not 100% sure.
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Re: [users] Workaround for Openoffice.org not starting on Gnome+sawfish: unset SESSION_MANAGER

2002-05-15 Thread Tony Earnshaw
tir, 2002-05-14 kl. 17:29 skrev Chris Halls:

> Workaround: simply

>unset SESSION_MANAGER

Should be inserted into the $installdir/program/soffice script.

*YES*, hurrah, at *last*!

What is "SESSION_MANAGER" supposed to do?
 
> before starting openoffice.  You can also workaround the problem by
> increasing the --purge-delay parameter to gnome-session.

RH 7.2, standard Gnome with updates:

Didn't work for me. I don't have any "gnome-session". Adding a .gnomerc
as recommended in the Isuezillas didn't help either.

> (This problem, and it's workaround, is identical for Opera users.)

Not if you use the soffice workaround ...

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Re: Setting effective UID for a shell script

2002-05-15 Thread Eric G. Miller
On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 05:17:41PM +0930, Tom Cook wrote:

> However, you are not entirely correct.  This does, in fact, compile,
> with the exception of the type of execve for execv.  It also, funnily
> enough, doesn't loop infinitely, which makes me think that the execv
> call is just failing.  I am Interested, but not enough to figure out
> Why.

$ gcc -g -Wall -o suidscript suidscript.c
suidscript.c: In function `main':
suidscript.c:4: warning: passing arg 2 of `execve' from incompatible
pointer type
suidscript.c:4: too few arguments to function `execve'
$ ls suidscript
ls: suidscript: No such file or directory

Note: I said "semantically", since you pass argv[0] as the command to
execute, the program will keep executing itself (if argv[0] is fully
qualified).  But, if you managed to get it to compile, it no doubt is
segfaulting due to noted errors above.

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Re: word format

2002-05-15 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Wed, 2002-05-15 at 08:42, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On Wed, 2002-05-15 at 02:14, Oliver Elphick wrote:
> > On Wed, 2002-05-15 at 04:46, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> [snip]
> > Microsoft problems, MS Works is not compatible with MS Word.  There is
> > no technical reason why this should be so; it's just a Microsoft device
> > to increase their profits.
> 
> I bet there is a technical reason why Works can't read Word & Excel
> files: there are so many different things that you can put in a Word
> doc, for example, (TOC, footnotes, endnotes, images, bibliographies,
> etc) that by the time you gave works the ability to read it, it would
> become Word itself.

Yes, but you would expect Word to be able to read a Works file -- if you
weren't dealing with an unscrupulous monopolist, that is.

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Re: word format

2002-05-15 Thread Michael D. Crawford
At the risk of helping a windows user, let me suggest a solution to your problem 
that won't cost you any money.


Go to http://www.abisource.com/ and download AbiWord version 1.0.1 for Windows. 
 It is a very nice, lightweight WYSIWYG word processor, it has all the features 
you would need to format a nice resume, and it is absolutely free.  It's not 
even shareware, it is Free Software in the sense of Free Speech.


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Re: Setting effective UID for a shell script

2002-05-15 Thread Tom Cook
On  0, "Eric G. Miller"  wrote:
> On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 05:17:41PM +0930, Tom Cook wrote:
> 
> > However, you are not entirely correct.  This does, in fact, compile,
> > with the exception of the type of execve for execv.  It also, funnily
> > enough, doesn't loop infinitely, which makes me think that the execv
> > call is just failing.  I am Interested, but not enough to figure out
> > Why.
> 
> $ gcc -g -Wall -o suidscript suidscript.c
> suidscript.c: In function `main':
> suidscript.c:4: warning: passing arg 2 of `execve' from incompatible
> pointer type
> suidscript.c:4: too few arguments to function `execve'
> $ ls suidscript
> ls: suidscript: No such file or directory

You didn't fix the typo I pointed out.

> Note: I said "semantically", since you pass argv[0] as the command to
> execute, the program will keep executing itself (if argv[0] is fully
> qualified).  But, if you managed to get it to compile, it no doubt is
> segfaulting due to noted errors above.

It compiles fine for me (after the typo is corrected).  You are
correct, the call should be:

   execv( argv[1], argv[2] );

For the fanatically correct, this might be better:

   execv( argv[1], argv + sizeof( argv[1] ) );

but the effect is the same (in fact the generated code is probably the
same).

As I mentioned, though, it doesn't loop indefinitely, even when you
try to execv argv[0] - it just exits.  No segfault.  No indefinite
loop.

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Re: word format

2002-05-15 Thread Tom Cook
On  0, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 2002-05-15 at 02:14, Oliver Elphick wrote:
> > On Wed, 2002-05-15 at 04:46, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> [snip]
> > Microsoft problems, MS Works is not compatible with MS Word.  There is
> > no technical reason why this should be so; it's just a Microsoft device
> > to increase their profits.
> 
> I bet there is a technical reason why Works can't read Word & Excel
> files: there are so many different things that you can put in a Word
> doc, for example, (TOC, footnotes, endnotes, images, bibliographies,
> etc) that by the time you gave works the ability to read it, it would
> become Word itself.
> 
> This is why SO6/OO6 can render .doc files better than AbiWord.

One might expect, though, that works could at least *produce* a valid
word file, even if it could not read one.

> A variation on a standard aphorism:
>Small, Fast, Featureful.  Pick any 2.

True, all too true.  Although in the cases of certain pieces of
software it seems to be just forget all of them.

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Re: WMaker Menu

2002-05-15 Thread Tom Allison

Theo Bierman wrote:

On Tue, May 14, 2002 at 06:51:37AM -0400, Tom Allison wrote:

I'm running Window Maker on three different workstations, and all the 
Menu structures are different.


Admittedly, the only thing that I am in a position to address right 
now is this:
On one machine I decided to strick out on my own for managing my menu. 
 Well, I don't like that idea anymore.  Is there something that I can 
do to restore the Debian provided Packages?  It's OK if this means the 
complete loss of my own customized menu structure.



Open up wmakerconf, on the menu tab right click the application folder and 
click on insert debina menu, save and exit.


Also, is there some manner in which I can have my cake and eat it too?

That is, can I create a sub-menu (or something) that contains either 
the entire Debian provided menu structure, or contains my own 
customized structure?



what i did was, added my own folders/commands under teh application folder 
(this is right at the top) and then right at the bottom inserted my debian 
menu, makes things a lot neater to


Bingo!  Thanks

And finally -- I don't recall which is which right now -- but there 
seems to be two WM Menu tools.  One will tend to destroy the Debian 
menu structure and the other one I can't find right now (explaining my 
lack of details...).  Is there any thoughts about getting this figured 
out?



are you talking about wmakerconf and WPrefs...?


YES!!!
wmakerconf is 'OK' for me to use. WPrefs keeps trying to convert my 
menu into something else.




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Re: xvidtune + xfree4

2002-05-15 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Fri, May 10, 2002, Harvey Kelly ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

> I've upgraded to XFree 4.0.2 from a Libranet CD and the screen is fine
> except it is an inch or two off-centre.  

Why not merely adjust your monitor controls?

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Re: making dos partitions: help

2002-05-15 Thread Dan
On Wednesday 15 May 2002 07:11, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On Wed, 2002-05-15 at 06:57, Dan wrote:
> > Hello! I need to create a simple bootable fat32 partition.
> > Partitioning, making it active, writing correct MBR isn't a real problem.
> > Formatting that partition is trivial as well- mkdosfs -F32 device, but
> > then the REAL problem begins. Is there a simple way to transfer usual
> > msdos bootloader + system files without messing with BPB/FAT? I've
> > tinkered with mkdosfs, replacing its dummy bootloader with msdos one. It
> > does start, but still refuses to boot io.sys, due to io-errors (yes, I've
> > placed io.sys + msdos.sys correctly and double-checked the FAT).
> >
> > What's the solution? Of course, using dosemu + dexe to run "sys source:
> > target:" still works, but I'd like to do that using native linux tools.
> > Another way is to create a small bootable partition and use dd to
> > read/write image, but this way will work for this particular case only,
> > cause some specific info is still located in BPB/FAT table. :(
>
> I think booting from a DOS floppy and saying "format/s c:" or
> "sys c:" are the only legal methods.  The DOS partition starts
> below cylinder 1023, right??

Hmm.. seems like I've gotta stick with dosemu after all. :(
Creating the bootimage with "sys c: exitemu" in autoexec.bat does the trick, 
of course when target drive is mapped using $_hdimage in dosemu.conf.

The point of it was: if mkdosfs actually can create valid fat32 partition and 
write (mostly) correct BPB/bootloader, there should be a way to do the rest. 
The problem is mkdosfs's BS layout doesn't follow all specs. For example, 
bs32DriveNumber (0x40) is empty, but it shouldn't be. There're also some 
minor differences and I guess that's what confuses msdos bootloader.
Unfortunately, I can't contact mkdosfs' current maintainer. :(

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Erweiterung Hardwarecompatibilitätsliste

2002-05-15 Thread Herbert . Herwig
Hallo, wer auch immer die Arbeit macht.

Möchte mitteilen, das der externe USB-Brenner Freecom Portable unter Woody mit
Kernel 2.4.16 auf einem Vobis Advance II Laptop mit Xcdroast einwandfrei brennt.

MfG H.Herwig


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linux async io and glibc

2002-05-15 Thread oliver . kowalke
Hi,

as I've posted to debian-glibc-list I want to program a little bit with
the new async IO implementation from Ben LeHaise. The kernel is patched
and libaio (provides the native async io api) is also installed. In
order to access linux new feature over a POSIX.4 interface I've to
patch glibc. 
Ben provides on its LINUX AIO page patches for glibc-2.2.4. OK - I will
try it for glibc-2.2.5-4.
My intention is to provide a glibc-2.2.5-4.deb which is configured like
the standard glibc-2.2.5-4.deb from woody plus the new linux aio
feature (access to libaio).
What I need to know is where can I get the source-deb-package which
contains the glibc sources and its configuration options (./configure
--prefix ...).
I've no experience creating/changing debs.
Hopefully you can help me?
with regards,
Oliver


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xscreensaver

2002-05-15 Thread Tom Allison
I think this is prevelant on all my machines, but certainly on my 
notebook.  I have xscreensaver installed, but it never goes off.


Could someone please give me a quick rundown on how to:
--enable xscreensaver (w/ & w/o password)
--set my monitor to standby/suspend/shutoff

Seeing as I have a bunch of these running, power savings is important...


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Re: IRC

2002-05-15 Thread Ulf Rompe
Tommi Komulainen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> 1. There is irssi-gnome and irssi-gtk in Debian also but they are
>*ancient*. Don't use them.

What I love about irssi-gnome is it's panel applet. I tend to keep
some not really busy channels open while doing my work. Doing work
needs screen real estate, so it is nice to have just an applet that
notifies me when there is traffic in a channel and that shows me the
new messages just by hovering over it with the mouse pointer.

How do I get a replacement for this feature using a console client?

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environment variables

2002-05-15 Thread Tom Allison

Where is a good place to park an Environment Veriable like RSYNC_RSH?


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files with spaces

2002-05-15 Thread Raffaele Sandrini
Hi

I tried to run a "find | xargs" command. It worked well until a file with a 
space in it showed up. There each part of the filename is treated as a 
seperate argument of the command executed by xargs.

Is there any way to get find or xargs putting a "\" in front of every space in 
a filename?

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No certificate files found with proftpd on woody

2002-05-15 Thread Antoine Jacoutot
Hi !

I'm having a odd error when I launch proftpd:

srv01:~# /etc/init.d/proftpd restart
Restarting professional ftp daemon.proftpd.
.. - No certificate files found!
proftpd.
 done.

--> what is this "No certificate files found" error ?
Any idea ?
Thanks.

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Re: files with spaces

2002-05-15 Thread Chris Halls
On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 11:48:40AM +0200, Raffaele Sandrini wrote:
> I tried to run a "find | xargs" command. It worked well until a file with a 
> space in it showed up. There each part of the filename is treated as a 
> seperate argument of the command executed by xargs.
> 
> Is there any way to get find or xargs putting a "\" in front of every space 
> in 
> a filename?

find -print0 | xargs -0

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Re: No certificate files found with proftpd on woody

2002-05-15 Thread Jean-Marc V. Liotier
On Wed, 2002-05-15 at 11:49, Antoine Jacoutot wrote:
>
> --> what is this "No certificate files found" error ?
> Any idea ?

It's most probably because your daemon is SSL enabled and therefore
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Re: Setting effective UID for a shell script

2002-05-15 Thread perceval anichini
> correct, the call should be:
>execv( argv[1], argv[2] );

> For the fanatically correct, this might be better:
>execv( argv[1], argv + sizeof( argv[1] ) );

Could you explain this? Why would this line be *more* correct than the 
precedent?

Moreover, argv + sizeof (argv[1]) is equal to argv[4] (as sizeof (char*) = 4) 
...

Perceval.


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(no subject)

2002-05-15 Thread AFOBardichev
hi
can i get some advise please,
i have windows 2000 and installed several languages, 
i'm trying to use some hebrew fonts like Rashi, it actualy shows on the drop menu, but i'm trying to use it the Time New Roman is poping up, and dosent give me the option to use Rashi, 
with David or Aharoni i don't have any problems.

Please advise
Thanks
Chaya


old Woody ISO

2002-05-15 Thread Willy S
Hi,

I just ordered Woody CDs, there are 7 of them. It is dated 9 Sept 2001, so
its quite old.

Is there are a way to check the difference between the ISO at that time to
the latest one? I need to know what package do I miss. One think for sure,
there is no Galeon in my CDs. And when I search it thru packages.debian.org,
there is Galeon in 'testing' version. I am afraid there are many packages
that I miss.

Can I solve the problem, by changing the source in apt-get from CDROM to ftp
mirror?

thanks you


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Re: WMaker Menu

2002-05-15 Thread Theo Bierman
On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 04:30:02AM -0400, Tom Allison wrote:
> Theo Bierman wrote:
> > On Tue, May 14, 2002 at 06:51:37AM -0400, Tom Allison wrote:
> > 
> >>I'm running Window Maker on three different workstations, and all the 
> >>Menu structures are different.
> >>
> >>Admittedly, the only thing that I am in a position to address right 
> >>now is this:
> >>On one machine I decided to strick out on my own for managing my menu. 
> >>  Well, I don't like that idea anymore.  Is there something that I can 
> >>do to restore the Debian provided Packages?  It's OK if this means the 
> >>complete loss of my own customized menu structure.
> > 
> > 
> > Open up wmakerconf, on the menu tab right click the application folder and 
> > click on insert debina menu, save and exit.
> > 
> >>Also, is there some manner in which I can have my cake and eat it too?
> >>
> >>That is, can I create a sub-menu (or something) that contains either 
> >>the entire Debian provided menu structure, or contains my own 
> >>customized structure?
> > 
> > 
> > what i did was, added my own folders/commands under teh application folder 
> > (this is right at the top) and then right at the bottom inserted my debian 
> > menu, makes things a lot neater to
> > 
> Bingo!  Thanks
> 
> >>And finally -- I don't recall which is which right now -- but there 
> >>seems to be two WM Menu tools.  One will tend to destroy the Debian 
> >>menu structure and the other one I can't find right now (explaining my 
> >>lack of details...).  Is there any thoughts about getting this figured 
> >>out?
> > 
> > 
> > are you talking about wmakerconf and WPrefs...?
> > 
> YES!!!
> wmakerconf is 'OK' for me to use. WPrefs keeps trying to convert my 
> menu into something else.

then i suggest you stick with wmakerconf. unless there is something that 
WPrefs gives you that wmakerconf does not
> 
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BitchX question

2002-05-15 Thread Theo Bierman
Hi All

This is probably meant to go somewhere else but anyway:

WindowMaker allows for multiple desktops via alt+1/2/3/4/5/6/7 etc etc

and

BitchX also allows for multiple windows via alt+1/2/3/4/5/6/7 etc etc, 

Can I change my window handling in BitchX?

I have checked bxfaq.html but I cannot find anything (unless i missed something)

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Re: old Woody ISO

2002-05-15 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 05:29:11PM +0800, Willy S wrote:
> I just ordered Woody CDs, there are 7 of them. It is dated 9 Sept 2001, so
> its quite old.
> 
> Is there are a way to check the difference between the ISO at that time to
> the latest one? I need to know what package do I miss. One think for sure,
> there is no Galeon in my CDs. And when I search it thru packages.debian.org,
> there is Galeon in 'testing' version. I am afraid there are many packages
> that I miss.
> 
> Can I solve the problem, by changing the source in apt-get from CDROM to ftp
> mirror?

Yes. You can then upgrade to the current version. dselect (at least,
possibly other frontends too) can show you new packages when upgrading.

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Re: BitchX question

2002-05-15 Thread Romuald DELAVERGNE

Le 2002.05.15 12:46, Theo Bierman a écrit :

Hi All

This is probably meant to go somewhere else but anyway:

WindowMaker allows for multiple desktops via alt+1/2/3/4/5/6/7 etc etc

and

BitchX also allows for multiple windows via alt+1/2/3/4/5/6/7 etc etc,

Can I change my window handling in BitchX?

I have checked bxfaq.html but I cannot find anything (unless i missed
something)

Thanks



I don't know for BitchX but you can disable these shortcuts in WindowMaker.
Personaly, I use alt+right and alt+left to switch to the next or the 
previous desktop.



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Re: Shell script anomaly

2002-05-15 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Alex Malinovich  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'm sure that I might be missing something obvious here, but after a few
>hours I still haven't figured it out. I'm writing a script to detect
>whether xscreensaver is running and activate it if it is. If not, it
>launches the daemon first and then activates. From the command line, the
>following returns the correct exit codes:
>
>if ps -A |grep -q "[x]screensaver"; then xscreensaver-command -activate
>else xscreensaver& xscreensaver-command -activate; fi
>
>However, if I put that exact line into a shell script and run it, the if
>ALWAYS gets evaluated as true. Any ideas?

Sure. If your script is called something like "check-xscreensaver"
the grep finds the script itself.

Why not use "pidof xscreensaver", see man pidof(8)

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Re: IRC

2002-05-15 Thread Ian D. Stewart

On 2002.05.15 05:31 Ulf Rompe wrote:

Tommi Komulainen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> 1. There is irssi-gnome and irssi-gtk in Debian also but they are
>*ancient*. Don't use them.

What I love about irssi-gnome is it's panel applet. I tend to keep
some not really busy channels open while doing my work. Doing work
needs screen real estate, so it is nice to have just an applet that
notifies me when there is traffic in a channel and that shows me the
new messages just by hovering over it with the mouse pointer.


Oh man, that would come in so handy!  Wonder if there's something like 
that available for XChat?



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Re: Shell script anomaly

2002-05-15 Thread Andreas Nowack
On 14 May 2002, Alex Malinovich wrote:

> if ps -A |grep -q "[x]screensaver"; then xscreensaver-command -activate
> else xscreensaver& xscreensaver-command -activate; fi
>
> However, if I put that exact line into a shell script and run it, the if
> ALWAYS gets evaluated as true. Any ideas?

I would test the output of grep. So change the line to
  if ps -A |grep -q "[x]screensaver" > /tmp/grep_output; then ...
and look at /tmp/grep_output and you will see why grep returns true.

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Re: Sendmail: How to get at the envelope in Procmail?

2002-05-15 Thread Carel Fellinger
On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 08:33:58AM +1000, Andrew Pollock wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 14 May 2002, Carel Fellinger wrote:
> 
> > I'm not sure I understand the setup, so I may be way off here.
> >
> > The best solution is to have your IPS (or who ever fills that mailbox)
> > add a Delivered-To header with the envelop To header.
> 
> It's my mail server, so I control it. Your suggestion sounds good. I'll do

Great!  So the real solution is attainable.

> some Googling, but can you tell me how to configure Sendmail to add this
> header? (Preferably what to add to my sendmail.mc so it'll persist)

Well, considering my lack of knowledge of sendmail, my only advice can
be to start using exim:)  Nah, I can do better then that, I can have a
look at sendmail's faq, yep there it is, faq Q3.29. Yack, you'll have to
use procmail just to add a single header.  Maybe it's really time to
switch to exim:)  Or you could go for postfix wich adds Deliverd-To
headers per default.


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Re: (no subject)

2002-05-15 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 06:19:02AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> hi
> can i get some advise please,

Advise is free. E.g. "Please put a proper subject on your mail."

> i have windows 2000 and installed several languages, 
> i'm trying to use some hebrew fonts like Rashi, it actualy shows on
> the drop menu, but i'm trying to use it the Time New Roman is poping
> up, and dosent give me the option to use Rashi, with David or Aharoni
> i don't have any problems.
> 
> Please advise

I don't know Rashi, or Aharoni, but I *do* know somebody called David.
And I don't have any problems with him. So the problem must be at your
end.

My best advice would be to visit www.debian.org (as you haven't done so
already), and read up on how to install Debian/GNU Linux. I suspect this
is the sort of advice you hoped for, since you posted to a mailing list
dedicated to the users of Debian/GNU Linux. This is an easy way to avoid
any problems with Windows you may suffer from.

YMMV

> Thanks
> Chaya

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Re: xscreensaver

2002-05-15 Thread Dale Hair
On Wed, 2002-05-15 at 04:22, Tom Allison wrote:
> I think this is prevelant on all my machines, but certainly on my 
> notebook.  I have xscreensaver installed, but it never goes off.
> 
> Could someone please give me a quick rundown on how to:
> --enable xscreensaver (w/ & w/o password)
> --set my monitor to standby/suspend/shutoff

Run xscreensaver-demo then choose screensaver options tab.


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Why alt key in xemacs does not work

2002-05-15 Thread Jiang Alan
  I have just installed debian/woody and xemacs21. I encountered two 
problems:
1. when I apt-get install xemacs21, it says post install configuration 
error. I find the problem is that when create a symbolic link at 
/usr/man/man1/., there is not /usr/man/man1 directory, so it failed. 
When I add the folder, it succeeded.


2. When I using Xemacs, the Alt key is not functioned as a meta key just as 
in other linux distributions. Instead, the meta key is the windows key (I 
am using a standard US layout 104 keyboard). But in other applications (for 
example, emacs), it functions correctly. How can I fix this problem?


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(fwd) Re: Upgrade Potato to Woody (3.0)

2002-05-15 Thread Lukas Ruf
Dear all, 

after I have sent this message to debian-testing, I resend I to this
list.  Maybe anyone here has any idea.

The upgrade was from 2.2r to 3.0 -- now, I can use neither dselect:
  onizuka root 145 (local/sbin): dselect
  Segmentation fault
nor apt-get
  onizuka root 146 (local/sbin): apt-get update
  E: Method ftp has died unexpectedly!
  E: Tried to dequeue a fetching object

dpkg still works and I can use the network .-)

Has anyone any idea?

Thanks for any help!

Lukas

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Subject: Re: Upgrade Potato to Woody (3.0)
From: Lukas Ruf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: debian-testing@lists.debian.org
Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 12:33:06 +0200
Reply-To: Lukas Ruf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Organization: TIK, ETH Zentrum

Dear all, related to my problem, I get the following errors:


nizuka root 105 (cache/old_apt): apt-get update
E: Method http has died unexpectedly!
E: Tried to dequeue a fetching object
E: Tried to dequeue a fetching object
E: Tried to dequeue a fetching object
E: Tried to dequeue a fetching object
E: Tried to dequeue a fetching object
E: Tried to dequeue a fetching object

Searching the web led me to a message with the same problem.  However,
no answer was given to that question in the archive.

Does anyone has any idea what I could do?

Thanks in advance,

Lukas

On Tue, 14 May 2002, Lukas Ruf wrote:

> Dear all,
> 
> /usr/bin/update-menus
> 
> creates a segmentation fault. So, I cannot install anything further. 
> Re-installing menu_2.1.5-10.1_i386.deb has not helped either.  I
> re-installed perl etc.  But no success.  
> 
> Can anyone give me any hint?  Thanks in advance,
> 
> Lukas
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Re: word format

2002-05-15 Thread Rogerio Acquadro
On Tue, 14 May 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I was e-mailing a resume and the person could not open file.  He said to use 
> word format.  I wrote my resume in Microsoft works and then saved in my 
> documents and the e-mail him for AOL with attachments.  If you could tell me 
> what I did wrong I would appreciate it.  
> 
> 
> Thank you
> 

Is this a joke?! ahahhahaha It's very funny!

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Re: word format

2002-05-15 Thread Rogerio Acquadro
On 15 May 2002, Ron Johnson wrote:

> On Wed, 2002-05-15 at 02:14, Oliver Elphick wrote:
> > On Wed, 2002-05-15 at 04:46, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> [snip]
> > Microsoft problems, MS Works is not compatible with MS Word.  There is
> > no technical reason why this should be so; it's just a Microsoft device
> > to increase their profits.
> 
> I bet there is a technical reason why Works can't read Word & Excel
> files: there are so many different things that you can put in a Word
> doc, for example, (TOC, footnotes, endnotes, images, bibliographies,
> etc) that by the time you gave works the ability to read it, it would
> become Word itself.
> 
> This is why SO6/OO6 can render .doc files better than AbiWord.
> 
> A variation on a standard aphorism:
>Small, Fast, Featureful.  Pick any 2.

What this have to do with Debian GNU/Linux?!?!?!?!

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Re: [misran@vlug.vein.hu: debian hpt370 raid]

2002-05-15 Thread Varady Geza
On Wed, 15 May 2002, Miroslav Mazurek wrote:

> Tue, 14 May 2002 17:57:28 +0200 "Josip Rodin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>
> AFAIK (I have EPOX with same hpt370) you should connect
> CD board controller (ide0 or ide1) and then you can boot potato with no
> problems. But, potato has 2.2.x kernel and support for hpt370 is
> included in 2.4.x kernel, so you need to update kernel after
> installing potato on one of first four disks (ide0 or ide1). How could
> you put 5th disk on normal (standard) ATA controller since it is capable
> of holding just 4?

Hi,

thanks for Your email. Linux sees the hpt370 onboard ide raid
controller as a normal ide controller (no hw raid). My board has a primary
ide controller + hpt370. So I can use 8 ide devices parallel. I wanted to
install linux and sw raid on the 4 disks (hanging on hpt370) but I decided
to put a 5th ide hdd on the primary ide controller for root.
Thank You again, best regards,
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Re: BitchX question

2002-05-15 Thread Theo Bierman
On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 01:34:47PM +0200, Romuald DELAVERGNE wrote:
> Le 2002.05.15 12:46, Theo Bierman a ecrit :
> > Hi All
> > 
> > This is probably meant to go somewhere else but anyway:
> > 
> > WindowMaker allows for multiple desktops via alt+1/2/3/4/5/6/7 etc etc
> > 
> > and
> > 
> > BitchX also allows for multiple windows via alt+1/2/3/4/5/6/7 etc etc,
> > 
> > Can I change my window handling in BitchX?
> > 
> > I have checked bxfaq.html but I cannot find anything (unless i missed
> > something)
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> 
> I don't know for BitchX but you can disable these shortcuts in WindowMaker.
> Personaly, I use alt+right and alt+left to switch to the next or the 
> previous desktop.

ah yes ofcourse good ol' wmaker, made my desktops ctrl+insert-->page down, 
works like a charm 

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Re: bastille deb (testing) hosed?

2002-05-15 Thread Ian D. Stewart

On 2002.05.14 20:45 Bob Bernstein wrote:


> On Tue, 14 May 2002, "cj" == Colin Watson wrote:

  cj> The maintainer just mailed me to say that a new package
  cj> is available, and he'd like you to test it out.

Only one perl booboo remains:

"Using Tk user interface module.
"Only displaying questions relevant to the current configuration.
"Can't locate Bastille_Tk.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/lib
/usr/local/lib/perl/5.6.1 /usr/local/share/perl/5.6.1 /usr/lib/perl5
/usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.6.1 /usr/share/perl/5.6.1
/usr/local/lib/site_perl /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/) at
/usr/sbin/InteractiveBastille line 296."

Bastille_Tk.pm is here:

# dpkg -L bastille |grep Bastille_Tk
/usr/share/perl5/site_perl/Bastille_Tk.pm

...so again my brute force fix was this:

# cd /usr/share/perl5
# ln -s /usr/share/perl5/site_perl/Bastille_Tk.pm Bastille_Tk.pm

...and that did the trick.


A more perl-ish fix would be:

export PERL5LIB=$PERL5LIB:/usr/share/perl5/site_perl


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Re: environment variables

2002-05-15 Thread Mike Alonzo
Tom Allison wrote this message last Wed, May 15, 2002 at 05:37:09AM -0400:
> Where is a good place to park an Environment Veriable like RSYNC_RSH?

in your ~/.bash_profile .

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Re: My ThinkPad is dead after Woody upgrade

2002-05-15 Thread Pavel Epifanov
FYI: I was aware about lm-sensors and never installed then at all.

--- Adrian Bridgett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The only thing I'm aware of is a warning from the lm-sensors package which
> comes up if you try and install lm-sensors-source (not sure about other
> lm-sensors packages:


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Re: [Evolution] Evolution quits while recieving mail

2002-05-15 Thread Not Zed

'quit' is a polite if incorrect way to say 'crashed and burnt'.

You should probably try and upgrade if possible, a lot of these types of
errors have been fixed since 1.0.2, although without debugging
information its hard to say if this particular bug is fixed.

Also, perhaps try removing the .ibex files, they're a pretty common
cause of crashes.  A backtrace might help.

If you can upgrade, and it still happens, please submit a bug report.

If you can't, perhaps try and idenfity which pop message is causing the
problem (you can do this by running evolution-mail in a separate shell
with CAMEL_VERBOSE_DEBUG=1 set in the environment before starting
evolution), and attach it to a bug report anyway, we can at least
confirm its fixed, a backtrace woould help too.


On Wed, 2002-05-15 at 16:10, Michael D. Crawford wrote:
> I have several thousand messages awaiting me on my POP server.
> 
> A couple times now, when attempting to receive them with Evolution 1.0.2-1, 
> it 
> receives some mail but then I get the message:
> 
> "The Evolution component that handles folders of type "mail" has unexpectedly 
> quit.  You will need to quit Evolution and restart in order to access that 
> data 
> again."
> 
> I am using a Debian unstable PowerPC system on a Macintosh 8500 with a 
> PowerLogix G4 CPU upgrade.
> 
> My existing mail folders have tens of thousands of messages (thanks to 
> mailing 
> lists).  I do have plenty of disk space left.
> 
> I think there is a later Evolution version available, but there doesn't seem 
> to 
> be a debian package for PowerPC later than 1.0.2-1.  Is there a later PowerPC 
> debian package I can obtain somewhere?
> 
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> 
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Re: Setting effective UID for a shell script

2002-05-15 Thread David Z Maze
Alex Malinovich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> How can I set the effective UID for a shell script? I've got a
> script which checks if xscreensaver is running and if not, starts it
> and then activates it. However, the script always gets run as root
> (it's being run as an APM script). This doesn't work if I'm logged
> in as myself since xscreensaver will think it's dealing with root.

This sounds very similar to the case of running the screensaver over
your display manager; have you read the section "USING XDM(1)" in
xscresnaver(1)?  (Is it helpful?)

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Re: environment variables

2002-05-15 Thread David Z Maze
Tom Allison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> Where is a good place to park an Environment Veriable like
> RSYNC_RSH?

In your .profile, .bashrc, or .zshenv file, depending on which shell
you use.  Infidels might also consider .cshrc.  :-)

(I have a separate dotfile, .variables, which sets this sort of thing,
and I source it from .xsession and .zlogin.  YMMV.)

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RE:environment variables

2002-05-15 Thread Andrew Agno
Tom Allison writes:
 > Where is a good place to park an Environment Veriable like RSYNC_RSH?

In your startup script.  Perhaps .profile or .bashrc.

Andrew.


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Re: Setting effective UID for a shell script

2002-05-15 Thread Kirk Strauser

At 2002-05-15T04:05:08Z, Alex Malinovich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> How can I set the effective UID for a shell script? I've got a script
> which checks if xscreensaver is running and if not, starts it and then
> activates it. However, the script always gets run as root (it's being run
> as an APM script). This doesn't work if I'm logged in as myself since
> xscreensaver will think it's dealing with root.

My new favorite answer is "use sudo".  It lets you give certain users
permission to execute certain programs (including scripts) as particular
other user, with or without prompting for a password.  It's very well
supported across a range of Unices, so once you learn how to configure it,
you can use it on pretty much every system you'll ever run.
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Re: environment variables

2002-05-15 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry

On 15-May-2002 Tom Allison wrote:
> Where is a good place to park an Environment Veriable like RSYNC_RSH?
> 

I use ~/.bashrc.


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Re: Setting effective UID for a shell script

2002-05-15 Thread Nicos Gollan
On Wednesday 15 May 2002 12:02, perceval anichini wrote:

> Moreover, argv + sizeof (argv[1]) is equal to argv[4] (as sizeof (char*) =
> 4) ...

And then a non-32bit system came along...


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Re: (fwd) Re: Upgrade Potato to Woody (3.0)

2002-05-15 Thread Jamin W . Collins
On Wed, 15 May 2002 14:43:58 +0200
"Lukas Ruf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Dear all, 
> 
> after I have sent this message to debian-testing, I resend I to this
> list.  Maybe anyone here has any idea.
> 
> The upgrade was from 2.2r to 3.0 -- now, I can use neither dselect:
(snip)
> nor apt-get
(snip)
> dpkg still works and I can use the network .-)
> 
> Has anyone any idea?

Have you tried manually installing the "apt" and/or "apt-utils" package
from Woody?  I seem to recall seeing this as a recommended step prior to
attempting the upgrade from Potato to Woody.

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RE: xscreensaver

2002-05-15 Thread Brooks R. Robinson
| On Wed, 2002-05-15 at 04:22, Tom Allison wrote:
| > I think this is prevelant on all my machines, but certainly on my 
| > notebook.  I have xscreensaver installed, but it never goes off.
| > 
| > Could someone please give me a quick rundown on how to:
| > --enable xscreensaver (w/ & w/o password)
| > --set my monitor to standby/suspend/shutoff

In my .xsession, I have:

xscreensaver -no-splash &

HTH,

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Problem with pop3

2002-05-15 Thread César Augusto Seronni Filho
Hi guys, I am having one problem with pop3, I am using ipop3d and its working 
fine to receive messges from my local clients(in my LAN). But when i try to 
get messages from external client(remote notebooks with dialup connection to 
Internet using normal ISP) the connection is too slow, i can't finished to 
receive all the mails. The strage thing is that problem just occours with 
some accounts and just in pop service because the smtp service is working 
fast and fine. 
I will try to install qpopper, any suggestion?

tks


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exim behind a NAT gateway and MTA's reverse-tracing the Received-path

2002-05-15 Thread Andreas Henriksson
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From: Andreas Henriksson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: exim-users@exim.org
Subject: exim behind a NAT gateway and MTA's reverse-tracing the Received-path

Hi.

I have problem sending mail to some email-addresses (some MTA's), I'll
start with describing my situation:

I'm connected to the Internet via NAT. I have no access to the servers
that have a "real" Internet address, and the chances I can get the
admins to change anything is close to zero.

I use mutt to send email.. so I need a local MTA to deliver the mail.
(This is where I differ from the rest of the users on the network, since 
regular MUAs have built in SMTP capabilities.)

I've tried different configurations without luck... here I'll describe
what happens when I configure exim with the eximconfig-tool in debian
choosing "Internet site with smarthost".

Here is an example of the Received part of the header when I send a mail 
(foo.dormnet.his.se/10.185.70.45 is my box, and smtp.dormnet.his.se is the 
smarthost):
Received:   from smtp.dormnet.his.se [193.10.185.236] by smtp1.home.se with 
Novonyx SMTP Server $Revision: 2.74 $; Wed, 15 May 2002 16:44:58 +0200 (ECTD) 
Received:  (qmail 51344 invoked by uid 1006); 15 May 2002 14:56:36 - 
Received:   from [EMAIL PROTECTED] by arnold.dormnet.his.se with 
qmail-scanner-0.96 (. Clean. Processed in 0.210791 secs); 15 May 2002 14:56:36 
- 
Received:  from foo.dormnet.his.se (10.185.70.45) by smtp.dormnet.his.se with 
SMTP; 15 May 2002 14:56:34 - 
Received:   from fatal by foo.dormnet.his.se with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) 
id 17808J-0003Bz-00 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 15 May 2002 16:52:03 +0200

Now to the problem

I've noticed that some servers traces the servers mentioned in Received
(for example "telia.com" does), and then they bounce mail when they find 
MTA-addresses they can't resolve. 

(my reversed path would be: smtp1.home.se -> arnold.dormnet.his.se -> 
smtp.dormnet.his.se -> foo.dormnet.his.se, and foo.dormnet.his.se isn't an 
internet site).

..and they can't resolve foo.dormnet.his.se.. So I'm fucked..

Is there any way I can get exim to use a smarthost and "hide" itself so
I get a similar Received path as MUA's under windows produce. (I mean..
MUAs that has built in SMTP capabilities so they can use remote MTAs.)



Here is how it looks like when my neighbour sends me a mail:

Received:   from smtp.dormnet.his.se [193.10.185.236] by smtp2.home.se with 
Novonyx SMTP Server $Revision: 2.74 $; Wed, 15 May 2002 15:48:32 +0200 (ECTD) 
Received:  (qmail 50995 invoked by uid 1006); 15 May 2002 14:00:10 - 
Received:   from [EMAIL PROTECTED] by arnold.dormnet.his.se with 
qmail-scanner-0.96 (. Clean. Processed in 0.2167 secs); 15 May 2002 14:00:10 
- 
Received:  from wired.dormnet.his.se (HELO wired.home.se) (10.185.70.137) by 
smtp.dormnet.his.se with SMTP; 15 May 2002 14:00:08 -

(His reversed path would be: smtp2.home.se -> arnold.dormnet.his.se -> 
smtp.dormnet.his.se, all internet sites)



maybee not that interesting... but for the record...

I've also tried sSMTP which I read was good for "dialup-users". This 
MTA also applied the local host as the first (or last, depending how 
you look on it) received element. So it didn't help me (and then I 
would have to find a substitute for fetchmail since sSMTP can't do 
local deliveries).


I hope you understood my problem with running an MTA behind a NAT 
gateway. If you know how to solve this or know any documentation 
specific to this problem please mail me: 
andreas . henriksson @ linux . se

Please also CC me any replies to this (since I'm not subscribed to the 
exim-users list).


Thanks and bye, 

Andreas Henriksson

- End forwarded message -


As usual.. please CC me since I'm not subscribed to this list eighter. :)


Thanks and bye,

Andreas Henriksson


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Re: Mutt file locking?

2002-05-15 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Tue, May 14, 2002 at 11:34:53AM -0600, Robert L. Harris wrote:
> My server is running nfs-user-server.
> Anyone know the right way to fix this instead of just going to an older
> version of mutt?

The userspace NFS server doesn't handle locking.  You have to switch
to a kernel with NFS server support (if your current kernel doesn't
already have it) and use nfs-kernel-server.  Going to a version of
mutt that doesn't complain about failed locks is not recommended, as
this would create the possibility for messages to be lost if they
arrive while you're reading mail.

The other option would be to ssh in to the mail server and run mutt
there, thus removing NFS from the equation entirely.

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USB Mouse with Debian 2.2r6

2002-05-15 Thread Matthew Reath, CCNA



I have downloaded Debian GNU/Linux version 2.2r6 
and installation went fine, but it doesn't seem to recognize my usb mouse so X 
won't startup.  Its the MS Optical Explorer mouse and lights up on power on 
but goes dark and never comes back on? 
 
Does the kernel that ships with 2.2r6 recognize usb 
devices.  I am going to try compiling the 2.4.18 kernel and see if that 
works.
 
 
Thanks,Matthew Reath, CCNAApplication 
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Re: xscreensaver

2002-05-15 Thread Hubert Chan
> "Tom" == Tom Allison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Tom> I think this is prevelant on all my machines, but certainly on my
Tom> notebook.  I have xscreensaver installed, but it never goes off.

Tom> Could someone please give me a quick rundown on how to:
Tom> --enable xscreensaver (w/ & w/o password)

man xscreensaver

esp. the Getting Started section.  If you're running one of the desktop
environments (KDE, Gnome), there should be some configuration option
that you can check to turn on the screen saver.

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Re: Why alt key in xemacs does not work

2002-05-15 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry

On 15-May-2002 Jiang Alan wrote:
>I have just installed debian/woody and xemacs21. I encountered two 
> problems:
> 1. when I apt-get install xemacs21, it says post install configuration 
> error. I find the problem is that when create a symbolic link at 
> /usr/man/man1/., there is not /usr/man/man1 directory, so it failed. 
> When I add the folder, it succeeded.
> 
> 2. When I using Xemacs, the Alt key is not functioned as a meta key just as 
> in other linux distributions. Instead, the meta key is the windows key (I 
> am using a standard US layout 104 keyboard). But in other applications (for 
> example, emacs), it functions correctly. How can I fix this problem?
> 

alt is alt and meta is meta.  in both rxvt and xterm meta is the window key, on
console it is alt because the console maintainer has not remapped it.


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rsync performance between HP-UX and Debian

2002-05-15 Thread Michael Madden
I've been using rsync to backup HP-UX 10.20 and Debian Woody machines, and 
I've seen performance issues on the HP-UX machines.  On the Debian
machines, I'm using rsync 2.5.5-0.1, and the HP-UX machines are using
2.5.5.  All the HPs are C3600s with 100 MB connections and 18 GB
SCSI disks.  The Linux boxes are various Dell workstations with 100 MB
connections and IDE disks.  With a 1.1 GB directory, I've seen the
following:

src desttime
=== 
HP-UX   HP-UX   13 m 36 s
Linux   HP-UX   16 m 22 s
HP-UX   Linux5 m 49 s
Linux   Linux3 m 49 s

At the time of the rsync both src and dest are near 100% idle, but it 
takes forever to rsync to HP-UX.  Has anyone else seen similar
performance with rsync?

Thanks,
Mike


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Re: word format

2002-05-15 Thread dman
On Tue, May 14, 2002 at 11:46:45PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| I was e-mailing a resume and the person could not open file.  He said to use 
| word format.  I wrote my resume in Microsoft works and then saved in my 
| documents and the e-mail him for AOL with attachments.  If you could tell me 
| what I did wrong I would appreciate it.  

Proprietary file formats like "word format" suck.  Only the creator of
the format can actually use it, which means you must pay MS a lot more
money to be able to do only what they will allow you to with it.
(sure there are programs like abiword and antiword, but they only
kinda work and tend to really mess up the formatting of some stuff)

The solution is to use an Open and Free format such as "plain text".

-D

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Re: exim behind a NAT gateway and MTA's reverse-tracing the Received-path

2002-05-15 Thread dman
On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 05:25:17PM +0200, Andreas Henriksson wrote:
 
| I have problem sending mail to some email-addresses (some MTA's), I'll
| start with describing my situation:
| 
| I'm connected to the Internet via NAT. I have no access to the servers
| that have a "real" Internet address, and the chances I can get the
| admins to change anything is close to zero.
| 
| I use mutt to send email.. so I need a local MTA to deliver the mail.
| (This is where I differ from the rest of the users on the network,
| since regular MUAs have built in SMTP capabilities.)

You're situation is no different except for the software you are
using.  Whether exim is doing SMTP or whether MS Outhouse is, it's
still SMTP and will work or fail similarly (except that exim has much
better error handling and reporting!).

| I've tried different configurations without luck... here I'll describe
| what happens when I configure exim with the eximconfig-tool in debian
| choosing "Internet site with smarthost".
|
| Here is an example of the Received part of the header
[snipped Received: header showing localhost]

| Now to the problem
| 
| I've noticed that some servers traces the servers mentioned in Received
| (for example "telia.com" does), and then they bounce mail when they find 
| MTA-addresses they can't resolve. 

Who does this?  RFC (2)821 explicitly state that the Received: headers
have no standard format and are not to be used except by mail admins
in tracing a problem.

| Is there any way I can get exim to use a smarthost and "hide" itself so
| I get a similar Received path as MUA's under windows produce. (I mean..
| MUAs that has built in SMTP capabilities so they can use remote MTAs.)

MUAs like that suck because they don't add a Received: header and thus
make tracing problems harder.  RFC821 says that a Received header is
to be added precisely for tracing messages to debug systems.  Given
that you need/want to deal with systems that are making life hard for
you, I'll help you out :-).

Edit /etc/exim/exim.conf.  Find the line that looks something like :

# the timestamp is automatically added on at the end, preceded by a semicolon.
received_header_text = "Received: \
 ${if def:sender_rcvhost {from ${sender_rcvhost}\n\t}\
 {${if def:sender_ident {from ${sender_ident} }}\
 ${if def:sender_helo_name {(helo=${sender_helo_name})\n\t\
 by ${primary_hostname} \
 (Exim ${version_number} #${compile_number} (Debian))\
 \n\tprotocol: ${received_protocol}\n\t\
 id ${message_id}\
 ${if def:received_for {\n\tfor <$received_for>}}\n\t"


Change this to something like :

received_header_text = "Received: \
 (Exim ${version_number})\
 \n\tprotocol: ${received_protocol}\n\t\
 id ${message_id}\n\t"


Basically I just removed the ${primary_hostname} part, which is where
your host's name is inserted.  As long as we're trying to make the
header rather useless (qmail also has _really_ useless headers) I
stripped out the other information relating to hosts and the
connection.

| I've also tried sSMTP which I read was good for "dialup-users". This 
| MTA also applied the local host as the first (or last, depending how 
| you look on it) received element.

Yep, it behvaes too! :-)

| So it didn't help me (and then I would have to find a substitute
| for fetchmail since sSMTP can't do local deliveries).

No, you shouldn't have fetchmail trying to do SMTP anyways.  It is not
a full-fledge MTA and won't properly follow the rules for error
handling (queueing and retrying, etc).  Use the 'mda' option in your
.fetchmailrc instead :


poll  protocol 
user  , password ""
is  here 
options stripcr , mda "/usr/sbin/exim %T" 

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Re: xvidtune + xfree4

2002-05-15 Thread Harvey Kelly
On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 01:45:53AM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> on Fri, May 10, 2002, Harvey Kelly ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> 
> > I've upgraded to XFree 4.0.2 from a Libranet CD and the screen is fine
> > except it is an inch or two off-centre.  
> 
> Why not merely adjust your monitor controls?

Hello,

It's a very very very old 14-inch that is running at the very limit of
its capabilities!!

Thanks,

Harvey


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Re: USB Mouse with Debian 2.2r6

2002-05-15 Thread dman
On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 10:48:43AM -0500, Matthew Reath, CCNA wrote:
 
| Does the kernel that ships with 2.2r6 recognize usb devices.  

I don't think so, but I could be wrong.

| I am going to try compiling the 2.4.18 kernel and see if that works.

I recommend installing the prepackaged version.  Woody is stable now,
though it hasn't been "officially" released due to some changes in the
support process.  Here's how you can upgrade :

1)  edit /etc/apt/sources.list and change 'potato' to 'woody'
2)  run "apt-get update"
3)  run "apt-get install apt dpkg apt-utils"
4)  run "apt-get dist-upgrade"
5)  run "apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.18-386"
6)  update your boot loader's (probably lilo) config to boot that
kernel
(I recommend installing grub instead and removing lilo, but that's
just me)
(the 2.4 kernels in the debian packages use an initrd to boot; you
must specify that to your bootloader)
7)  add these lines to /etc/modules if they aren't there already
(some stuff like apm and ide-cd were moved out of the kernel and
into modules in the 2.4 package)
apm
usb
mousedev
ide-cd
ide-floppy
parport
parport_pc
lp

HTH,
-D

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Problem with modem

2002-05-15 Thread tim truman

 Hi all
I have recently moved from Redhat to debian and am having problems with 
an Actiontec PCI Master controller-based modem.
After installing Potato and compiling 2.4 kernel (due to better PCI 
support) I am getting the following boot message

ttyS04 at port 0x1800 (irq = 11) is a 16550A
The modem automatically uses com 5 in M$ hence the ttyS4 (although not 
sure about the 0 in ttyS04).
Is there any way to change the modem from ttyS4 to ttyS0-3 using 
setserial or something like it or do I have to use MAKEDEV to create 
ttyS4 and run the modem from that.


thanks for any help

tim




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how to create a patched glibc?

2002-05-15 Thread Oliver Kowalke
Hi,

as I've posted to debian-glibc-list I want to program a little bit with
the new async IO implementation from Ben LeHaise. The kernel is patched
and libaio (provides the native async io api) is also installed. In
order to access linux new feature over a POSIX.4 interface I've to
patch glibc. 
Ben provides on its LINUX AIO page patches for glibc-2.2.4. OK - I will
try it for glibc-2.2.5-4.
My intention is to provide a glibc-2.2.5-4.deb which is configured like
the standard glibc-2.2.5-4.deb from woody plus the new linux aio
feature (access to libaio).
What I need to know is where can I get the source-deb-package which
contains the glibc sources and its configuration options (./configure
--prefix ...).
I've no experience creating/changing debs.
Hopefully you can help me?
with regards,
Oliver


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Re: xscreensaver

2002-05-15 Thread Vineet Kumar
* Tom Allison ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [020515 02:22]:
> I think this is prevelant on all my machines, but certainly on my 
> notebook.  I have xscreensaver installed, but it never goes off.
> 
> Could someone please give me a quick rundown on how to:
> --enable xscreensaver (w/ & w/o password)
> --set my monitor to standby/suspend/shutoff
> 
> Seeing as I have a bunch of these running, power savings is important...

If you really want to save power, don't use any xscreensaver hacks that
waste your CPU on painting pretty pictures when you're not using the
computer. Just use xset to configure screen blanking and
suspending/powering off (dpms).

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Re: how to create a patched glibc?

2002-05-15 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry

On 15-May-2002 Oliver Kowalke wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> as I've posted to debian-glibc-list I want to program a little bit with
> the new async IO implementation from Ben LeHaise. The kernel is patched
> and libaio (provides the native async io api) is also installed. In
> order to access linux new feature over a POSIX.4 interface I've to
> patch glibc. 
> Ben provides on its LINUX AIO page patches for glibc-2.2.4. OK - I will
> try it for glibc-2.2.5-4.
> My intention is to provide a glibc-2.2.5-4.deb which is configured like
> the standard glibc-2.2.5-4.deb from woody plus the new linux aio
> feature (access to libaio).
> What I need to know is where can I get the source-deb-package which
> contains the glibc sources and its configuration options (./configure
> --prefix ...).
> I've no experience creating/changing debs.
> Hopefully you can help me?

apt-get source 'package' once you add source lines to your
/etc/apt/sources.list and run apt-get update:

deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free

for unstable as an example.


the glibc package is one of the more complex packages we keep.  There is a
patches directory in the source as I recall so you should just need to add the
patch to the dir and then register it with the package's makefiles.


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Re: [Evolution] Evolution quits while recieving mail

2002-05-15 Thread Jeffrey Stedfast
You probably got the spam message that prompted the release of Evolution
1.0.5.

I have no idea if debian has newer packages, you'd have to ask them.

Jeff

On Wed, 2002-05-15 at 02:40, Michael D. Crawford wrote:
> I have several thousand messages awaiting me on my POP server.
> 
> A couple times now, when attempting to receive them with Evolution 1.0.2-1, 
> it 
> receives some mail but then I get the message:
> 
> "The Evolution component that handles folders of type "mail" has unexpectedly 
> quit.  You will need to quit Evolution and restart in order to access that 
> data 
> again."
> 
> I am using a Debian unstable PowerPC system on a Macintosh 8500 with a 
> PowerLogix G4 CPU upgrade.
> 
> My existing mail folders have tens of thousands of messages (thanks to 
> mailing 
> lists).  I do have plenty of disk space left.
> 
> I think there is a later Evolution version available, but there doesn't seem 
> to 
> be a debian package for PowerPC later than 1.0.2-1.  Is there a later PowerPC 
> debian package I can obtain somewhere?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Mike
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sane-backends upgrade breaks scanimage with ADF

2002-05-15 Thread Andrew Perrin
I did a dist-upgrade today on my office machine, so now have the latest
woody sane-backends. That includes scanimage, which I use for scanning
documents with a document feeder.  The following command, which worked
this morning, now crashes miserably:

scanimage --batch=page%04d.pnm --mode Binary --resolution 120 --source
"Automatic Document Feeder"

It simply crashes with a "Segmentation fault" -- no additional
information.

Scanning using scanimage works fine using the flatbed.

This is an Epson Perfection 1640SU Office connected via SCSI.

Any advice?

Thanks.

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"AGP not available" error.

2002-05-15 Thread Steve Juranich
Now that I've gotten rid of the visual garbage on my Radeon VE, I'm trying to 
get dri working on it.  I've got everything set up the way that things are 
supposed to be set up (loading the radeon and agpgart modules on boot, and the 
radeon module is referenced in my XF86Config-4 file), but it's still not doing 
direct rendering.  I'm getting the following error in /var/log/XFree86.0.log:

(EE) RADEON(0): [agp] AGP not available
(EE) RADEON(0): [drm] failed to remove DRM signal handler


My config file is setting the DRI stuff to 0666, and I've double-checked:

coffee (steve)$ ll /dev/dri/card0 
crw-rw-rw-1 root root 226,   0 Apr  5 23:25 /dev/dri/card0

I also set /dev/agpgart to world-read,write but I'm still getting the same 
error.

I've looked at the DRI web page, but I can't find anything relevant. Bus 
mastering is enabled, and I just don't know what else to check.

Any ideas out there?

Running a Athlon XP 1700 with an MSI K7T266 Pro2 mobo and Radeon VE video 
card.  With sid.

Many thanks.

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Re: sane-backends upgrade breaks scanimage with ADF

2002-05-15 Thread Andrew Perrin
FYI, the new xsane segfaults too.  Arrgh!

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On Wed, 15 May 2002, Andrew Perrin wrote:

> I did a dist-upgrade today on my office machine, so now have the latest
> woody sane-backends. That includes scanimage, which I use for scanning
> documents with a document feeder.  The following command, which worked
> this morning, now crashes miserably:
> 
> scanimage --batch=page%04d.pnm --mode Binary --resolution 120 --source
> "Automatic Document Feeder"
> 
> It simply crashes with a "Segmentation fault" -- no additional
> information.
> 
> Scanning using scanimage works fine using the flatbed.
> 
> This is an Epson Perfection 1640SU Office connected via SCSI.
> 
> Any advice?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
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infinity loop when booting

2002-05-15 Thread tilman utz

hello list,

recently I installed woody from cds on my machine (i386, qwertz-kbd, 
bios-clock on GMT from previous linux (suse6.4) installations).


All went on quite smoothly, until after configuring the root password 
and a default user. after displaying the message 'loading 
/etc/console/boottime.kmap.gz' thee system ran into an infinity loop of 
setting timezone and whether one wishes to have md5 passwords and a 
shadow file.


Except for that the systems seems to be running ok (i.e. I'm able to 
switch to another console and log in either as root either as user).


Any helping hint would be greatly appreciated
thanks
tilman



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Re: Small footprint window manager

2002-05-15 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Sat, May 11, 2002, Miroslav Mazurek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> 
> I need som recomendation for some realy small footprint window manager (it 
> should run on 386/16MB). What's best choice?

On that kit, bash.

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Re: sane-backends upgrade breaks scanimage with ADF

2002-05-15 Thread Veit Waltemath
On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 02:02:24PM -0400, Andrew Perrin wrote:
->I did a dist-upgrade today on my office machine, so now have the latest
->woody sane-backends. That includes scanimage, which I use for scanning
->documents with a document feeder.  The following command, which worked
->this morning, now crashes miserably:
->
->scanimage --batch=page%04d.pnm --mode Binary --resolution 120 --source
->"Automatic Document Feeder"
->
->It simply crashes with a "Segmentation fault" -- no additional
->information.
->
->Scanning using scanimage works fine using the flatbed.
->
->This is an Epson Perfection 1640SU Office connected via SCSI.
->
->Any advice?
->
->Thanks.

comment out the sm3600 entry in /etc/sane.d/dll.conf and try again.
May it helps.

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Re: Testing a Floppy Drive

2002-05-15 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Tue, May 14, 2002, David Raeker-Jordan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> I suspect that the floppy drive on my computer has gone bad, but the
> diagnostic software from the manufacturer (Dell) says the drive is fine.
> 
> Is there software to test whether a floppy drive has gone bad?

Create floppies.

Read them.

Look for errors.

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Re: sane-backends upgrade breaks scanimage with ADF

2002-05-15 Thread Andrew Perrin
Thanks, but it still crashes.

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On Wed, 15 May 2002, Veit Waltemath wrote:

> On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 02:02:24PM -0400, Andrew Perrin wrote:
> ->I did a dist-upgrade today on my office machine, so now have the latest
> ->woody sane-backends. That includes scanimage, which I use for scanning
> ->documents with a document feeder.  The following command, which worked
> ->this morning, now crashes miserably:
> ->
> ->scanimage --batch=page%04d.pnm --mode Binary --resolution 120 --source
> ->"Automatic Document Feeder"
> ->
> ->It simply crashes with a "Segmentation fault" -- no additional
> ->information.
> ->
> ->Scanning using scanimage works fine using the flatbed.
> ->
> ->This is an Epson Perfection 1640SU Office connected via SCSI.
> ->
> ->Any advice?
> ->
> ->Thanks.
> 
> comment out the sm3600 entry in /etc/sane.d/dll.conf and try again.
> May it helps.
> 
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Re: xvidtune + xfree4

2002-05-15 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Wed, May 15, 2002, Harvey Kelly ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 01:45:53AM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> > on Fri, May 10, 2002, Harvey Kelly ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > 
> > > I've upgraded to XFree 4.0.2 from a Libranet CD and the screen is fine
> > > except it is an inch or two off-centre.  
> > 
> > Why not merely adjust your monitor controls?
> 
> Hello,
> 
> It's a very very very old 14-inch that is running at the very limit of
> its capabilities!!

I read that as:  14" effectively 12".

An upgrade to an NEC 17" refurb was running US$120 when I last checked
past July.  I'd strongly recommend newer kit.

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Re: [Evolution] Evolution quits while recieving mail

2002-05-15 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 02:09:56PM -0400, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote:
> You probably got the spam message that prompted the release of Evolution
> 1.0.5.
> 
> I have no idea if debian has newer packages, you'd have to ask them.

Yes, in the unstable distribution. (I'm not the maintainer, just a
bystander.)

 evolution |1.0.3-1 |   testing | source, alpha, arm, i386, m68k, 
powerpc, s390, sparc
 evolution |1.0.3-3 |  unstable | arm, m68k, s390
 evolution |1.0.5-1 |  unstable | source, alpha, i386, ia64, powerpc, 
sparc

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Re: infinity loop when booting

2002-05-15 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 08:32:05PM +0200, tilman utz wrote:
> recently I installed woody from cds on my machine (i386, qwertz-kbd, 
> bios-clock on GMT from previous linux (suse6.4) installations).
> 
> All went on quite smoothly, until after configuring the root password 
> and a default user. after displaying the message 'loading 
> /etc/console/boottime.kmap.gz' thee system ran into an infinity loop of 
> setting timezone and whether one wishes to have md5 passwords and a 
> shadow file.

Get hold of newer CD images, as this is fixed now. Sorry, but this is
part of the fun of pre-releases. :)

It's also possible to upgrade base-config manually. Check the list
archives.

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Re: Problem with modem

2002-05-15 Thread Andrey Vlassov
did you try run setserial in order

ttyS03
ttyS02
ttyS01

and see what tty will accept your settings. In my case modem was reported in
windows as com4 but in linux it was ttyS01.

Andrey

tim truman wrote:

>   Hi all
> I have recently moved from Redhat to debian and am having problems with
> an Actiontec PCI Master controller-based modem.
> After installing Potato and compiling 2.4 kernel (due to better PCI
> support) I am getting the following boot message
> ttyS04 at port 0x1800 (irq = 11) is a 16550A
> The modem automatically uses com 5 in M$ hence the ttyS4 (although not
> sure about the 0 in ttyS04).
> Is there any way to change the modem from ttyS4 to ttyS0-3 using
> setserial or something like it or do I have to use MAKEDEV to create
> ttyS4 and run the modem from that.
>
> thanks for any help
>
> tim
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Re: infinity loop when booting

2002-05-15 Thread Walter Tautz


On Wed, 15 May 2002, tilman utz wrote:

> hello list,
> 
> recently I installed woody from cds on my machine (i386, qwertz-kbd, 
> bios-clock on GMT from previous linux (suse6.4) installations).
> 
> All went on quite smoothly, until after configuring the root password 
> and a default user. after displaying the message 'loading 
> /etc/console/boottime.kmap.gz' thee system ran into an infinity loop of 
> setting timezone and whether one wishes to have md5 passwords and a 
> shadow file.
> 
> Except for that the systems seems to be running ok (i.e. I'm able to 
> switch to another console and log in either as root either as user).
> 
> Any helping hint would be greatly appreciated
> thanks
>   tilman
> 
You can use a boot floppy setup. Make sure you point to http.us.debian.org.
The base-confg package obtained in this manner has been fixed. Presumably the
fix has propagated to other mirrors but you never know since woody seems to
be in a deep freeze.

-walter


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Re: apache et ssl

2002-05-15 Thread J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\)
On Tue, May 14, 2002 at 17:21:22 +0200, Eric Laeuffer wrote:
> Je viens de me rendre compte quil existe apparemment deux packages qui
> fournissent ssl ; apache-ssl et libapache-mod-ssl. Pouvez vous me dire
> rapidement la diffrence entre ces deux packages ?

This question is addressed in both packages' documentation:
http://www.modssl.org/docs/2.8/ssl_faq.html#ToC3
http://www.apache-ssl.org/#mod_ssl

HTH,
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Another OpenOffice.org workaround: printing and anti-aliased font problem

2002-05-15 Thread James D Strandboge
There are bug reports on this, but it took me a while to find them, so I
thought I would pass this along.

OOo 1.0 has problems with printing and anti-aliased fonts on my
system.  I looked it up and found that if you disable the font cache,
printing and anti-aliased fonts worked correctly.  Here is the
workaround (per one of the OOo bug reports):

cat /dev/null > $HOME/.openoffice/user/psprint/pspfontcache
chmod 444 $HOME/.openoffice/user/psprint/pspfontcache

Hope this helps!

Jamie Strandboge

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Re: potato or woody or testing or arrgghghg

2002-05-15 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, May 14, 2002 at 11:57:22AM +0930, Tom Cook wrote:
> Eventually (in fact it may have already happened, I can't remember)
> woody will be frozen, outstanding bugs will be fixed as well as may be
> and then woody will become the stable distribution.

Woody is almost completely frozen, nothing is getting in aside from
security fixes and bugs that make it uninstallable (like the looping
base-config bug that seems to pop every day or two on this list).  It
was supposed to be released (become the new 'stable') on May 1, but
there was some security update infrastructure problem that has held it
up for the last couple of weeks.

> Sid is the unstable distribution, and always is.  When woody is
> released as stable, then all the packages in sid are migrated into the
> new testing distribution, which will have a new and different name.

U, I don't think this is quite correct; at the moment woody is
released, stable and testing will exactly the same.  Packages will
immediately star trickling in from sid again, using the same rules
that were used for woody.

btw, Sarge seems to be the de facto release name for woody+1; aj made
some comment about it, and everybody assumed it was decided, so it
looks like it won by popularity.

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Re: Change compile options wi/ apt-get source?

2002-05-15 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, May 13, 2002 at 10:40:20PM -0500, Michael D. Crawford wrote:
> I don't know, but I would very much like to recompile glibc, the Xlib, and 
> the gnome libraries to be optimized for the different processors I'm 
> running.

I'd be careful using any optimisations on these fairly critical
libraries; the fairly common mantra is optimising glibc is bad,
optimising glibc is bad... 

> Recompiling the kernel to optimize for a particular processor is a 
> significant performance boost but it would help to optimize the libraries 
> too.

I've only ever seen one person offer figures to back up this
assertion; last year there was a thread about this, and the conclusion
seemed to be 'good idea, but a huge effort for not much gain' (~5%
IIRC).

> Recompiling glibc is a bit risky because you can make your machine 
> unbootable if you make a mistake.

Hmmm...I don't think this is quite true.  You might not be able to
enter a 'normal' run level (2,3,4,5) because the init scripts would
not be able to execute the dynamically-linked /bin/sh (usually bash or
ash). You can, of course, boot directly into sash, a statically linked
shell, and repair any damage you might have caused.

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Re: Soundblaster Live! Card Not Working

2002-05-15 Thread Rob Weir
My SBLive Value is working fine under a whole bunch of different
kernels, (thought not 2.4.19-pre8 in particular), in both OSS and ALSA
mode.

On Mon, May 13, 2002 at 10:13:54PM -0500, Benjamin Pharr wrote:
> I just bought a Soundblaster Live! soundcard, and I can't get it to
> work. I'm running Debian GNU/Linux with the 2.4.19-pre8 kernel. When I
> do a "modprobe emu10k1" it says:
> /lib/modules/2.4.19-pre8/kernel/drivers/sound/emu10k1/emu10k1.o:
> init_module: No such device
> Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters,
> including invalid IO or IRQ parameters
> /lib/modules/2.4.19-pre8/kernel/drivers/sound/emu10k1/emu10k1.o: insmod
> /lib/modules/2.4.19-pre8/kernel/drivers/sound/emu10k1/emu10k1.o failed
> /lib/modules/2.4.19-pre8/kernel/drivers/sound/emu10k1/emu10k1.o: insmod
> emu10k1 failed

Perhaps you need to manually load the modules?  I seem to have
emu10k1,ac97_core,sound and soundcore all loaded.  Are you sure you're
loading the right modules for the right kernel version?  I can't see
how this could screw up, but y'know...

> I tried reseating the card to make sure it was in there good, but it
> still didn't work. Any ideas?

How does the output of lspci (in the pciutils package) look?  This
should rule out hardware problems.

Failing that, then I'd try switching kernel to a different
version...Are you running on a non-x86 platform?  I seem to recall
that there was some patching problem with 2.4.18 that left most all
the non-Intel architectures screwed.

-rob


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