Re: Can't compile an exact copy of kernel image.

[Osamu Aoki]

On Thu, Oct 04, 2001 at 09:36:24PM -0300, Ricardo Gazoni wrote:
> Yes, I did. In fact, step 1 loaded /boot/config-2.2.19pre17 and saved it in
> /usr/src/kernel-source-2.2.19pre17/.config. To be precise, doing this via make
> xconfig only adds comment lines to the .config file. I checked it out 
> carefully
> 
> > > Everything worked just fine until now. But the old kernel image
> > > (vmlinuz-2.2.19pre17) is 1.001.473 bytes long, and the new one
> > > (vmlinuz-2.2.19foo17) is 1.033.565 bytes long. But the worst thing
> > > is that the new kernle doesn't boot. What am I doing wrong??

If difference is few bytes, I suppose some difference in  compile
condition may have contributed.  But 30KB is large.

Just to be sure, why not recompile without using xconfig.

Also check difference in /boot/System.map-2.2.19

Also are you using right compiler version. 

Besides, recompile again and see whether result is same or not.  If
different, you may have had memory corruption during compile.  Good luck
:-)
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Re: looping messages [was Re: Sendmail not sending queue's out.]

[Damon Muller]

Quoth Craig Dickson, 
> I've been getting a lot of repeat messages from debian-user lately also.
> I have the impression, based on the headers, that someone at best.com has
> accidentally created a loop that somehow is getting past the list server's
> loop detection. It's annoying, but I'm not sure what we can do about it...

The following maildrop rule seems to be picking them up for me:

if (/^X-Envelope-Sender: bounce-debian-user=debian=atoka-software/)
exit


Of course, this was on the basis of the headers of about two suspected
dupes...

cheers,

damon

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anyone using postfix in a home LAN setup?

[Matthew Garman]

This is slightly off-topic, but I thought I'd give it a go...

Does anyone out there have a home LAN setup using non-routable IP
addresses (e.g. 192.168.x.x)?  And if so, do you have postfix running as
the MTA on more than one machine in the LAN?

Have you been able to get postfix to send mail to different machines on
the LAN (completely internal, no external DNS routing)?

I asked about this a little while ago on the postfix mailing list.  The
responses I got were a bit over my head, and seemed to suggest that it's
not really possible with just postfix.  But I'm not really sure, so I was
just curious if anyone had accomplished this.

Thanks!
Matt

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sendmail hash in /

[Mike Pfleger]

OK, Richard et al;  I've got a weird one for you here.

On Monday, I did an apt-get upgrade of my Woody box, built a 2.4.10
kernel, and started playing with X4.10 which kicks serious butt :)
However, I have found a very odd bunch of files hanging out in / .
For your viewing pleasure:

-rw---1 root root0 Oct  3 10:01 errs3cAjPx
-rw---1 root root0 Oct  4 10:20 errsBsXXgw
-rw---1 root root0 Oct  1 14:13 errsaNXMWD
-rw---1 root root0 Oct  1 17:31 errsnLgRvS
-rw---1 root root0 Oct  2 09:31 errsuYVBBQ
-rw---1 root root0 Oct  1 12:14 errsuyOfkj
-rw---1 root root0 Oct  3 21:33 errsvTUUTy
-rw-r--r--1 mail mail0 Oct  1 11:24 hash
-rw-r--r--1 mail mail12288 Oct  1 11:24 hash.db

Now; I know for sure that the hash and hash.db are the product of my
sendmail upgrade, as it told me that it was building a new hash.  Lo and
behold there's nothing in /etc/mail by that name.  The time stamp
matches all the stuff like sendmail.cf in /etc/mail, too.

Any ideas as to why sendmail might put the hash and hash.db in / ?  Did
I screw something up in my sendmail.mc, perhaps?  How about any ideas as
to what the other stuff is?  The files have a certain look of sendmail
to them; like those strings that identify queued, unsent messages.

Thanks in advance,
Mike Pfleger

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Where are they hiding?
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IDE CD burning problem

[Petteri Heinonen]

Hello.
I've tried to set up my IDE burner, following instructions in
CD writing howto. I've compiled all necessary stuff in the
kernel (2.4.9), except modules ide-cd , ide-scsi and ide-loop.
I can load modules fine, and cdrecord -scanbus shows my
burner. But burning itself fails. I might be able to burn
couple of megs (maximum has been 9 megs), but then everything
freezes. I have to use reset button to recover. Here is the
output of cdrecord -v speed=2 dev=0,1,0 -data ./test.iso:

Track 01: 3 of 44 MB written.scsi:aborting command due
timeout: pid:0, scsi0,
id 0, lun 0 0x2a 00 00 00 01 b2 00 00 1f 00
hdb: timeout waiting for DMA
ide_dmaproc: chipset supported ide_dam_timeout func only: 14
hdb: status timeout: status=0xd0 {Busy}
hdb: drive not ready for command
hdb: ATAPI reset complete
Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtua address
bdefae5e
(then about ten rows of hex garbage or something)
Kernel panic: Aiee, killing interrupt handler!
In interrupt handler - not syncing

After that the box is completely freezed. I think everything
goes fine until burning process itself begins, so I don't
bother you with the output of cdrecord before that. But if you
think that there could be something essential in cdrecord's
output before burning phase, let me know, and I'll send you
that output too. One thing that could help to figure out what
is going wrong is that I am able to _clear_ CD-RW:s. But
writing is not possible for either CD-R's nor CD-RW's. I'm not
sure about the exact model of my drive, but idetool says
following:

Model   IDE-CD ReWritable-2x2x6
FirmwareV:003.01
Serial No.  4VI22990
Geometry0/0/0
Cache   3900Kb
Status  Unknown
DMA ModeEnabled
IO Mode Default 16-bit
IRQ Unmask  Disabled
Multisector Yes/134537789 sectors)
On ResetDefault

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Re: how to install debian originally from cd but copied to HD

[ramsubs]

- Original Message -
From: Michael Heldebrant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 3:40 AM
Subject: Re: how to install debian originally from cd but copied to HD


> On Thu, 2001-10-04 at 14:12, ramsubs wrote:
> > i'm a linux newbie and playing around with debian to learn. i've
> installed and reinstalled it many times but the routine of swapping cds
> (from the 3 cd-set) is bothersome.
> >
> > so i partitioned my HD increasing it by 3 partitions with the idea of
> copying the 3 cds into the 3 partitions, and subsequently trying to
> install from the HD direct. (partitions are fat32; but i had no problems
> reading the boot floppies info from hda6)
> >
> > the installation process asks for sources from CDROM, filesystem, ftp,
> http,.. I picked filesystem assuming i could refer to my local
> partitions.
> >
> > i had to modify the /etc/apt/sources.list to read from the 3 new
> partitions (hda6, hda7, hda8) but i'm stumped. i get error messages.
> typically i used a line such as:
> > deb file:/hda6/dists/potato/main/binary-i386/Packages
> > (the installer prompted this asking if i wanted to edit the file
> manually, and then displayed ae to edit the file)
> >
> > i've checked man apt.get, apt.conf, sources.list but they don't
> provide help i need (at least to my little understanding).
> >
> > hope someone can help me.
> >
>
> Firstly please don't post to the list in html.

sorry, i didn't realize it. will fix that. let me know if this one doesn't
come out okay.

>  What I BELEIVE you are

you believed perfectly...

> going to need to mount each of these partitions as a file system let's
> for the sake of ease create cdrom1 cdrom2 cdrom3 in /mnt.  I'm not sure
> if apt is going to be able to understand the schizophrenia of the three
> sources since I've never installed from cd copied to hd, or cd for that
> matter.
>
> So from a console (alt-f2 and enter) after you get the install running
>
> cd /mnt
>
> or if it isn't there just do it from the root system and adjust

wonderfully existed there... and worked just like that.

> accordingly, I haven't installed in a a while.
>
> mkdir cdrom1
> mkdir cdrom2
> mkdir cdrom3
> mount -t vfat /dev/hda6 /mnt/cdrom1
> mount -t vfat /dev/hda7 /mnt/cdrom2
> mount -t vfat /dev/hda8 /mnt/cdrom3
>

everything went fine here too... (beginning to love debian more...)

> then in sources.list:
>
> deb file:/mnt/cdrom1/dists/potato/main/binary-i386/Packages
> deb file:/mnt/cdrom2/dists/potato/main/binary-i386/Packages
> deb file:/mnt/cdrom3/dists/potato/main/binary-i386/Packages
>
> That should work for you.

now i really love debian.

however, just for the record, i hadn't understood the construction of the
"deb file" statement so the lines above that you copied from me are my
mistake.
for the record, after experimenting a bit, i found the right structure.

deb file:/mnt/cdrom1/  potato  contrib main
deb file:/mnt/cdrom1/  potato/non-US  contrib main
(i was a little anxious here doing a "potato/main", but boy what joy when it
worked. newbie glee!)

deb file:/mnt/cdrom2/  potato  contrib main
deb file:/mnt/cdrom2/  potato/non-US  contrib main

deb file:/mnt/cdrom3/  potato  contrib main
deb file:/mnt/cdrom3/  potato/non-US  contrib main


i was unsuccessful in trying to directly refer to the Packages file (as in
the earlier incorrect code-statement). the installer didn't return any
informative error message except to say "Malformed Line". i remember reading
in man sources.list that i should end the line with "/"; i tried but it
complained the same.

>
> --mike
>

everything worked like a charm.

thank you so much mike.

now i can fool around more.. :-)

Re: anyone using postfix in a home LAN setup?

[James L. Morton]

While I have have not ever used Postfix is that particular setup, I
can't think of any reasons it wouldn't work.  If you create an MX record
for each host, as you would normally, but simply using internal IPs, it
should work much the same as an Internet-routeable Postfix would.

I'm not quite sure why you would want to run multiple Postfix daemons on
a (presumably) small LAN, but I imagine you do have your reasons:)

Could you maybe describe the particular problem you were having with
it?:)

 - James Morton

On Thu, 2001-10-04 at 19:13, Matthew Garman wrote:
> 
> This is slightly off-topic, but I thought I'd give it a go...
> 
> Does anyone out there have a home LAN setup using non-routable IP
> addresses (e.g. 192.168.x.x)?  And if so, do you have postfix running as
> the MTA on more than one machine in the LAN?
> 
> Have you been able to get postfix to send mail to different machines on
> the LAN (completely internal, no external DNS routing)?
> 
> I asked about this a little while ago on the postfix mailing list.  The
> responses I got were a bit over my head, and seemed to suggest that it's
> not really possible with just postfix.  But I'm not really sure, so I was
> just curious if anyone had accomplished this.
> 
> Thanks!
> Matt
> 
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libc6 problems in compilation

[Indraneel Majumdar]

Hi,
I've gone crazy trying to figure this out:

gcc -o test test.c
as: error while loading shared libraries: as: symbol __libc_start_maan,
version GLIBC_2.0 not defined in file libc.so.6 with link time reference

g++ -o test test.C
as: error while loading shared libraries: as: symbol __libc_start_maan,
version GLIBC_2.0 not defined in file libc.so.6 with link time reference

I am running unstable, and upgraded after some 2 weeks (through a new
proxy server). After getting the above error, I commented out the
unstable lines in sources.conf and put in testing. Then I downgraded
libc6 libc6-dev and locales to the version in testing. I still get the
error above. I also tried compiling with gcc-3, but the result is same.
My default gcc is 2.95.

My other machine which runs unstable (and which I'v been updating nearly
everyday) is OK. But for some reason I can only see libc6-2.2.4-2
(neither 1 as in testing, nor 3 as in unstable)

I've looked at the bug reports but there is nothing there.

TIA,
Indraneel

PS:
test.c and test.C

int main () { return 0; }

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Re: IDE CD burning problem

[Jim Crilly]

Disable DMA on the drive.

On Fri, 2001-10-05 at 02:36, Petteri Heinonen wrote:
> Hello.
> I've tried to set up my IDE burner, following instructions in
> CD writing howto. I've compiled all necessary stuff in the
> kernel (2.4.9), except modules ide-cd , ide-scsi and ide-loop.
> I can load modules fine, and cdrecord -scanbus shows my
> burner. But burning itself fails. I might be able to burn
> couple of megs (maximum has been 9 megs), but then everything
> freezes. I have to use reset button to recover. Here is the
> output of cdrecord -v speed=2 dev=0,1,0 -data ./test.iso:
> 
> Track 01: 3 of 44 MB written.scsi:aborting command due
> timeout: pid:0, scsi0,
>   id 0, lun 0 0x2a 00 00 00 01 b2 00 00 1f 00
> hdb: timeout waiting for DMA
> ide_dmaproc: chipset supported ide_dam_timeout func only: 14
> hdb: status timeout: status=0xd0 {Busy}
> hdb: drive not ready for command
> hdb: ATAPI reset complete
> Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtua address
> bdefae5e
> (then about ten rows of hex garbage or something)
> Kernel panic: Aiee, killing interrupt handler!
> In interrupt handler - not syncing
> 
> After that the box is completely freezed. I think everything
> goes fine until burning process itself begins, so I don't
> bother you with the output of cdrecord before that. But if you
> think that there could be something essential in cdrecord's
> output before burning phase, let me know, and I'll send you
> that output too. One thing that could help to figure out what
> is going wrong is that I am able to _clear_ CD-RW:s. But
> writing is not possible for either CD-R's nor CD-RW's. I'm not
> sure about the exact model of my drive, but idetool says
> following:
> 
> Model IDE-CD ReWritable-2x2x6
> Firmware  V:003.01
> Serial No.4VI22990
> Geometry  0/0/0
> Cache 3900Kb
> StatusUnknown
> DMA Mode  Enabled
> IO Mode   Default 16-bit
> IRQ UnmaskDisabled
> Multisector   Yes/134537789 sectors)
> On Reset  Default
> 
> thanks in advance,
> -- 
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> 
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Re: LAPTOPS AND TWO DIFFERENT WORKPLACES (OT)

[martin f krafft]

* D. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2001.10.04 10:28:19-0700]:
>   The system administrator at work is a subcontract
> employee.  He is also the administrator at his
> company.  The company that I work for also has
> employe's from his company working here and they
> travel back and forth between companies and use their
> M$ laptops at both sites.  Here is the problem.. both
> sites use M$ and my company  has the DHCP set and the
> other company doesn't, so when these people go to
> their company they have to go and set the nic card up.
>   He asked me if I knew of a way to do this and I have
> searched the web and came up dry... I think that a lot
> of the people that are on this list are also very
> knowledgable about M$ also.  Is there a way to do this
> with out setting his company up to use DHCP?

have a look at the 'whereami' package!

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problems with diskless booting

[Jason Pepas]

Hey guys,

I have been trying to set up a diskless linux workstation.

I have a netboot floppy working - the diskless machine boots and 
correctly recognizes the network card, and starts to broadcast 
requests.  I watch the hub and can see that it is really putting 
out requests, so I know the problem is not there.

On the server, I put in a second ethernet card (to keep it on a 
physically sepparate network from my internet connection), which is 
correctly configured for a static IP.

I have bootpd installed and running (ps aux | grep bootpd), and as 
far as I can tell from the howto's and such out there, I have a 
correct bootptab config file as well. (i will append the config at 
bottom of message).  I know I have the hardware address for the 
diskless client correct, because the netboot floppy displays it on 
boot.

I also have tfptd working correctly.  I ssh'ed into a remote 
machine and was able to successfully receive a file using tftp, so 
I know that is set up correctly.

I cant seem to figure out where the problem is.  At least, the 
diskless box should be attempting to download the kernel, which it 
is not.

Any ideas?

thanks,
jason
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

bootptab:

# /etc/bootptab: database for bootp server (/usr/sbin/bootpd)

# first i tried this
#casper:ha=0050BA6619B4:ip=192.168.0.2:bf=/tftpboot/kernel:

# then i tried this
casper:\
:hn=casper:\
:ha=0050BA6619B4:\
:ip=192.168.0.2:\
:sm=255.255.255.0:\
:gw=192.168.0.1:\
:sa=192.168.0.1:\
:ht=ethernet:\
:hd=/tftpboot:\
:td=/tftpboot:\
:bf=kernel:

Re: SPARC Station 5: how to find out what's the HW configuration?

[James]

Thus spake Erik Steffl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

> I have a SPARC Station 5 with debian installed. It works fairly well, the
> problem is I have no info about the HW configuration (I got it on sort of
> garage sale from company going out of business (or moving, I am not sure
> which)).

Good rescue.  The config defaults in any recent 2.2 series kernel
(definitely go with 2.2.19) should be sane, you'll probably want to build
some things as modules instead and remove some of the higher end defaults
that do not pertain to your setup and/or needs.

SS5's come with the following:

a TI MicroSPARC II 70, 85, or 110 MHz or a Fujitsu TurboSPARC 170Mhz.

It takes 8 MB or 32 MB fast page mode 5V, 168 pin JEDEC DIMMs, 8 slots for
a total of 256MB.

Can accept two 50pin (narrow) SCA hard disks using a special drive sled.
Be careful though, things can get very toasty in there if you use modern
speedy disks.

A fast SCSI HBA (aka scsi2).  Should be an ESP(something), they use an NCR
chip, usually NCR53C9XF.

The audio is a CS4231 chip, you may need a special cable to use this, I
forget.

The NIC should be a sunlance, which is a 10bt.  Some systems may sport
a SunSwift card.  This gives you another SCSI bus and ethernet interface.

There's many framebuffers for this and any other sbus sparc.  You'll
probably have a TGX or GX.

Hope this helps.  I can elaborate further, if ya need it.

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italian keyboard

[Vittorio]

In a partition of my hd I've just upgraded my potato 2.2r3 to woody
issuing:

apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade

Now, under a woody console, my keyboard has unfortunately moved from
Italian (the initial setting) to US.

How can I set the right keyboard?

Vittorio  

Re: Realplayer installer broken in sid?

[Jesper Holmberg]

* On Fri Oct 05, Nick Hastings wrote:
>after a harddisk failure I reinstalled sid on one of my pcs. There were
> no big problems. However the it seems that the realplayer installer may now
> be broken.

Exactly the same thing happens over here on Woody.

Jesper

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Re: duplicate old posts?

[ninchi]

> 
> Responding to myself, I've gotten in touch with their admins and they're
> trying to iron out the problems.
> 
> --mike
> 

That's right,
Let's talk about the solution ...

RE: How can I use dselect from behind a firewall?

[Bristow Paul-BPB007]

I'm in a similar situation to this but my proxy requires a password to get 
through it.  Is there anyway I can do this?
Thanks,
Paul.

-Original Message-
From: Gary Hennigan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 05 October 2001 00:31
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: How can I use dselect from behind a firewall?


"Stan Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I have a Debian stable machine located atw ork behind a very restrictive
> firewall. I don have a machine runing squid that can be used as a HTTP only
> proxy to get through it.
> 
> How do I set this up?

Easy. Just set the environment variable "http_proxy". The line in my
root accounts .profile looks like:

http_proxy="http://proxymachine:80/";
export http_proxy

and apt works like a champ.

Gary


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Re: A Very Big Apology

[Colin Watson]

On Thu, Oct 04, 2001 at 09:21:09PM -0700, Allen Wayne Best wrote:
> i owe everyone on the list a very big apology, i'll bet. it appears that a 
> large number of messages from the list sent to my address got resent to the 
> list. 
> 
> my isp this week has changed everything i have with them, including my mail 
> service and caused me havoc. and now, you've suffered as well. i hope this is 
> a time event. please let me know if you continue to see it. so far, i have 
> not, but time will tell.

While you're fixing this, can you make sure that your (probably
fetchmail) setup stops taking a message addressed e.g. To: Colin Watson,
Cc: debian-user, and forwarding an additional copy of the message to me?
It should ignore recipients it doesn't know anything about rather than
trying to "helpfully" pass them on.

There have been a few complaints about this on developer lists recently
...

Regards,

-- 
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Re: italian keyboard

[Andrea]

On Fri, 2001-10-05 at 12:13, Vittorio wrote:
> In a partition of my hd I've just upgraded my potato 2.2r3 to woody
> issuing:
> 
> apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade
> 
> Now, under a woody console, my keyboard has unfortunately moved from
> Italian (the initial setting) to US.
> 
> How can I set the right keyboard?

Only a guess (i'm confortable only with an usa keyboard), try to copy an 
italian keymap from 

/usr/share/key in /etc/console, or trying with dpkg-reconfigure console-tools...


Andrea

Warrior

[Guillaume]

Hello great ones :)

Neither XMMS, nor FreeAmp are working anymore.

XMMS: seg fault
FreeAmp: No audio device

Audio is fine (OSS) as mplayer still works ...
XMMS and freeamp are the last versions.
I looked at the Sound-howto/debian.

Config: 90% testing-woody / 2.4.9 recompiled
`by hand' for my laptop (needed for usb-storage)
I'm a newbie.. but debian is easier than what
people say !

Besides, I managed to get wMaker running again,
after the kernel update (apt-get xbase-clients)
but X is kinda wierd ;) I mean, for example the
Nedit menus are not displayed correctly (squares
instead of caracters)

Thank you for any hints ! (another mp3 player?)

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Problem with hda1 ('/) at boottime, what now?

[J.A. de Vries]

Hi,

I am having a bit of trouble with one of my systems. At boot it says:

---
/dev/hda1 was not cleanly umnounted, check forced.
hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } / 21.9%
hda: dma_intr: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=81949, sector=81948
end_request: I/O error, dev 03:01 (hda), sector 81948
hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
hda: dma_intr: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=81949, sector=81948
end_request: I/O error, dev 03:01 (hda), sector 81948
Error reading block 40974 (Attempt to read block from filesystem  resulted in
short read) while doing inode scan.

/dev/hda1: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY.
(i.e., without -a or -p options)

fsck failed.  Please repair manually and reboot.  Please note
that the root file system is currently mounted read-only.  To
remount it read-write:

   # mount -n -o remount,rw /

CONTROL-D will exit from this shell and REBOOT the system.

Give root password for maintenance
(or type Control-D for normal startup):


So I log in as root (glad I didn't disable that yet) and do:


(none):~# mount -n -o remount, rw /
EXT2-fs warning: mounting unchecked fs, running e2fsck is recommended
(none):~# e2fsck /dev/hda1
e2fsck 1.18, 11-Nov-1999 for EXT2 FS 0.5b, 95/08/09
/dev/hda1 is mounted.

WARNING!!!  Running e2fsck on a mounted filesystem may cause
SEVERE filesystem damage.

Do you really want to continue (y/n)? no

check aborted.
(none):~#



After previous boots when I tried to remount the root as rw I got an
error message that /etc/mtab couldn't be written. That I do not get now.
So now I can mount all the filesystems by hand and start from that. But
that's not as it should be.

I am left with a couple of questions. How _can_ I check / ? And what's the
problem with the block? Besides I am wondering what caused this, since
the last umount of / must have been earlier this day when I did a
"shutdown -h now" to move the box.

Could anyone give me some advice on how to
solve this problem? I'd appreciate it very much.

In the meanwhile I'll have to work with the mountpoints mounted by
hand...

Sincerely,

HdV

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Re: OpenGL causes hard system lockups

[Carlos Sousa]

> (...)
> Some of these 3D screensavers will unexpectedly lock up my 
system---and I
> mean *completely* lock up my system, can't ctrl-alt-f[1-6] to 
switch to a
> text console, I can't kill X with ctrl-alt-backspace, etc.  Nothing 
works.


Same here. Glad you mentioned it, 'cause I thought it had to do with 
my card having been a bit on the cheap side (an ATI Rage 128 family 
member). I've managed to gain a lot more stability by disabling 3 
screensavers specifically (through xscreensaver-demo): "StarWars", 
"Gears" and "Gears (planetary)". Now I can manage to go almost one 
week without rebooting.


Wine also gives me some grief, I could never run "winmine.exe" without 
a crash just like these we're discussing, but I'm not sure the reason 
is the same.


These accelerated drivers are alpha-quality at best. They are, 
unfortunately, at the base of current Linux GUI desktop systems, one 
more reason why Linux is still very clearly and solidly years behind 
Windows on the desktop, for most users.


I won't be converting my dual-boot machine to an all-Linux one any 
time soon...


Carlos

Problem apache+mod_rewrite

[Jose Manuel Perez]

Hi all.
We are having some problems with Apache 1.3.19-1 and mod_rewrite.
Using rewritemap rule we've got following error message in log file:
[Thu Oct  4 12:38:23 2001] [error] [client 192.168.200.101] (37)No locks 
available: mod_rewrite: failed to lock file descriptor
Aparently server is serving web pages normally. We've changed
apache max processes but error persists.
We use kernel 2.4.9.

Someone knows something about this error?

Thanks in advance,
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need help with script

[Christian Schoenebeck]

Hi!

I want to write a script which makes a user authentification (username &
password) and after that it shall check if the user is member of a special
group. Can someone point me how to do it?

Christian


P.S. Please cc me, as I'm not able to read the list at the moment

Re: Tulip driver unresolved symbols (UPDATE)

[David Raleigh Arnold]

Just in case my former got lost in the sauce, if you have a
netgear card, your driver is probably ng_tulip rather than
tulip.

Information is not knowledge.   Belief is not truth.
Indoctrination is not teaching.   Tradition is not evidence.
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why does apt want to install this?

[Michael P. Soulier]

Hey people. 

So I'm about to do a dist-upgrade on Sid again, and I'm wondering why apt
wants to install

The following NEW packages will be installed:
  bonobo libbonobo2 vim 

Doing an apt-cache depends on bonobo, I can't see why it would want it.
Furthermore, libbonobo2 _replaces_ bonobo, so why is it installing bonobo?

I'm confused.

Thanks,

Mike

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huge, buggy programs not even their developers can love."
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Crash postmortem.

[oivvio polite]

I've been experiencing some system instability lately.
The system crashes like once a week or something. Ctrl-Alt-Delete has no 
effect. And I can't even ssh in from another host to do a graceful shutdown. 
Of course I'm not asking any of you to analyze my problem with this little 
informatation. Rather I'm asking for tips an general methods for analyzing 
crashes after the fact. Or maybe some prog that monitor all processes and 
warns me when something is starting to go haywire?

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difference between upgrade and dist-upgrade

[Michael P. Soulier]

Hey people. 

So I just upgraded my system, and for the hell of it, I did a -s
dist-upgrade to see what else apt wanted to do. 

tigger:~# apt-get -s dist-upgrade
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Calculating Upgrade... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  vim-rt 
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  bonobo libbonobo2 vim 
The following packages have been kept back
  gnucash 
1 packages upgraded, 3 newly installed, 1 to remove and 1  not upgraded.
Remv vim-rt (5.8.007-4 )
Inst vim-gtk (6.0.011-3 Debian:unstable) []
Inst vim (6.0.011-3 Debian:unstable)
Inst libbonobo2 (1.0.9-2 Debian:unstable)
Inst bonobo (1.0.9-2 Debian:unstable)
Conf vim (6.0.011-3 Debian:unstable)
Conf vim-gtk (6.0.011-3 Debian:unstable)
Conf libbonobo2 (1.0.9-2 Debian:unstable)
Conf bonobo (1.0.9-2 Debian:unstable)

Why the difference? The apt-get manpage states that upgrade will not
remove packages, so that explains the vim package, if it replaces vim-rt.
Would the bonobo and libbonobo2 packages be for the same reason?

Mike

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modules - can't get ip

[BizarroBum]

when i boot up i get the message
modprobe: Note the file etc/modules.conf is more recent than the file 
/lib/modules/2.4.9/modules.dep

and all the modules are not loading, this is a problem since my ethernet driver 
is a module, i've tried to recompile the ethernet driver to be included in the 
kernel but still the network config didn't work.

somehow it worked after one kernel recompile where i recompiled my ethernet 
driver as modules again, but on the next boot up it didn't load.
does anybody know how to fix this?


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Re: difference between upgrade and dist-upgrade

[Colin Watson]

On Fri, Oct 05, 2001 at 07:28:32AM -0400, Michael P. Soulier wrote:
> The following packages will be REMOVED:
>   vim-rt 
> The following NEW packages will be installed:
>   bonobo libbonobo2 vim 
> The following packages have been kept back
>   gnucash 
> 1 packages upgraded, 3 newly installed, 1 to remove and 1  not upgraded.
[...]
> Why the difference? The apt-get manpage states that upgrade will not
> remove packages, so that explains the vim package, if it replaces vim-rt.
> Would the bonobo and libbonobo2 packages be for the same reason?

Chances are that the one upgraded package (not shown above) wanted
bonobo. 'upgrade' won't install new packages either.

If you always want to see what packages apt-get is upgrading, put this
line in /etc/apt/apt.conf:

  APT::Get::Show-Upgraded "yes";

-- 
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Re: why does apt want to install this?

[Colin Watson]

On Fri, Oct 05, 2001 at 07:16:52AM -0400, Michael P. Soulier wrote:
> So I'm about to do a dist-upgrade on Sid again, and I'm wondering
> why apt wants to install
> 
> The following NEW packages will be installed:
>   bonobo libbonobo2 vim 
> 
> Doing an apt-cache depends on bonobo, I can't see why it would want it.

'apt-cache depends' is the wrong way round, as you need reverse
dependencies. Try 'apt-cache showpkg'.

> Furthermore, libbonobo2 _replaces_ bonobo, so why is it installing bonobo?

No, libbonobo2 replaces bonobo (<< 0.37-4). All that means is that some
files moved from bonobo to libbonobo2 in that version.

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Re: sendmail hash in /

[Colin Watson]

On Thu, Oct 04, 2001 at 11:36:37PM -0700, Mike Pfleger wrote:
> -rw---1 root root0 Oct  3 10:01 errs3cAjPx
> -rw---1 root root0 Oct  4 10:20 errsBsXXgw
> -rw---1 root root0 Oct  1 14:13 errsaNXMWD
> -rw---1 root root0 Oct  1 17:31 errsnLgRvS
> -rw---1 root root0 Oct  2 09:31 errsuYVBBQ
> -rw---1 root root0 Oct  1 12:14 errsuyOfkj
> -rw---1 root root0 Oct  3 21:33 errsvTUUTy
[...]
> Any ideas as to why sendmail might put the hash and hash.db in / ?  Did
> I screw something up in my sendmail.mc, perhaps?  How about any ideas as
> to what the other stuff is?  The files have a certain look of sendmail
> to them; like those strings that identify queued, unsent messages.

They're just temporary files created with library functions like
mkstemp(), so it's hard to tell where they're coming from. If sendmail
is writing other things to /, then you might as well investigate that
first.

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Re: SPAM WARNING: spammers use Debian lists for harvesting

[Sam Varghese]

On Wed, Oct 03, 2001 at 12:03:04AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
> >   If you subscribe to and use Debian mailing lists, you WILL get
> >   spam.

On Wed, Oct 03, 2001 at 04:41:37PM -0700, Karsten M. Self countered:
> No shit.
> $ apt-get install spamfilter
> $ apt-get install mailfilter
> 
> ...prolly the latter, though I use the former.

Thanks very much for this info - I found a very useful program
called popcheck at the same site which houses the spamfilter
program.

Sam
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Re: Q about autofs

[Bill Benedetto]

  Bill> Under HP-UX, SunOS, and IRIX, I could have an entry in my
  Bill> /etc/auto.master file like this:
  Bill> 
  Bill> /net -hosts
  Bill> 
  Bill> which would allow me to access any exported filesystem from a
  Bill> remote system by accessing
  Bill> 
  Bill> /net/REMOTE_MACHINE/EXPORT_FILESYSTEM
  Bill> 
  Bill> For example: /net/rem123/export/home
  Bill> 
  Bill> Unfortunately I haven't been able to find that same functionality
  Bill> in autofs.  Is it there and I have just missed it (I hope I hope
  Bill> I hope)?

  Alvin> hi ya bill
  Alvin>
  Alvin> have fun playing with autofs
  Alvin>- what is the contents of your auto.master and
  Alvin>  auto.* it refers to 
  Alvin>
  Alvin> for more info... autofs howto..
  Alvin> http://www.Linux-Consulting.com/Amd_AutoFS

I looked at the aforementioned docs and didn't find anything
really useful on autofs (as far as /net is concerned).

*BUT* I took a look at amd and found that it supports the /net
construct!  Right out of the box!

So I loaded am-utils on my box and set it up to watch /net and it
works shwell!

(For those of you interested,: Yes, I am running both autofs and
 amd on the same box, doing different things.)

Thanks a lot, Alvin!

- Bill
+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+
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I don't speak for Goodyear and they don't speak for me.  We're both happy.

Re: problems with diskless booting

[Serafim Zanikolas]

On Fri, Oct 05, 2001 at 02:55:22AM -0500, Jason Pepas wrote:
> I cant seem to figure out where the problem is.  At least, the 
> diskless box should be attempting to download the kernel, which it 
> is not.
> 
> Any ideas?

   Hello Jason,

   Check out the logs of both tftpd and bootpd. Consult the man pages
for the location of these and even better for switches of verbose
debug-level logging.

   I've faced the same problem in the past and, believe me, you can't
figure out what's wrong without a hint from the logs. Excuse me for
not providing more info but I don't work with booptd any more.

   If you can't get it to work, post the logs to the list so we can
have a view of the problem.

   Good luck!

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http://www.it.teithe.gr/~serzan Debian GNU/Linux


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Re: duplicate old posts?

[Wayne Topa]

[EMAIL PROTECTED]([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
> 
> 
> > 
> > Responding to myself, I've gotten in touch with their admins and they're
> > trying to iron out the problems.
> > 
> > --mike
> > 
> 
> That's right,
> Let's talk about the solution ...

Using exim. In .forward

if  $h_MBOX-Line: contains "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
then
save /dev/null
finish
endif

Fixed it here 2 days ago.
  
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Default DHCP client for Debian

[Andrew Nesbit]

What is the default DHCP client with Debian? Is it dhclient or dhcpcd?

TIA
-Andrew

Re: Default DHCP client for Debian

[Colin Watson]

On Fri, Oct 05, 2001 at 10:56:28PM +1000, Andrew Nesbit wrote:
> What is the default DHCP client with Debian? Is it dhclient or dhcpcd?

It was pump in potato, but will be dhcp-client in woody.

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Network Cards

[Mike Grover]

Hi all,
  I am new to using debian.
  I have just finished installing ver 2.2 r3 and was wondering how I
  go about setting up network cards?

  I have a ne2000 in the machine, but when I type ifconfig, All
  I see is the local loop back interface.

 thanks, mike

Re: Tulip driver unresolved symbols (UPDATE)

[D.]

  I checked again this morning and I have a Accton
EN2242 NIC card.. So I asume that I still use the
tulip.o driver.
  Thanks for the response.
Don
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> Just in case my former got lost in the sauce, if you
> have a
> netgear card, your driver is probably ng_tulip
> rather than
> tulip.
>

> Information is not knowledge.   Belief is
> not truth.
> Indoctrination is not teaching.   Tradition is not
> evidence.
>  David Raleigh Arnold   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> 
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Trying to figure out where the kernel sources went.

[HdV]

Hi,

I am trying to recompile the kernel so I can use the ltmodem drivers. This is
a first for me, so I still have to figure out a loot of things. Please, bear
with me.

The docs said that the kernel-headers and/or sources are needed. So I check
the kernel version with unuma -r, which told me that I am running 2.2.19pre17.
Knowing that I invoked

apt-get install kernel-source-2.2.19pre17

and also

apt-get install kernel-headers-2.2.19pre17

Thinking I had succesfully loaded the needed libraries I then fired up the
build_deb script that comes with the ltmodem sources. Bummer, it tells me it
can't find the headers in

/usr/src/linux
/usr/src/kernel-headers-2.2.19pre17
/usr/src/kernel-linux-2.2.19pre17

Indeed ls shows me that there are 2 directories underneath /usr/src:

/usr/src/kernel-headers-2.2.19pre17-compact
/usr/src/kernel-headers-2.2.19pre17-idepci

Which one of those two do I use? Uname doesn't specify either of them.

There's also a file kernel-source-2.2.19pre17.bz2 in /usr/src I presume these
are the kernel sources, but shouldn't they be unpacked somewhere? If I need to
do that myself, where should I put them?

Sorry to pester you guys with all these questions. I tried finding the answers
on the net and in the doc directories, but was unsucessful.

Grx HdV

P.S. I have found the kernel how-to, but that didn't answer my questions.

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Re: italian keyboard

[Bernhard Aichinger]

On Friday 05. October 2001 12:13, Vittorio wrote:
> In a partition of my hd I've just upgraded my potato 2.2r3 to woody
> issuing:
>
> apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade
>
> Now, under a woody console, my keyboard has unfortunately moved from
> Italian (the initial setting) to US.
>
> How can I set the right keyboard?
>
> Vittorio


I had the same problem on woody/sid ...

I installed with apt-get a few more packages: console-common, console-data 
and console-tools. After that I was able to use my german keybord again. 
Optionally I installed util-linux-locales because util-linux recommend this 
package.


Good luck,
Bernhard

Unidentified subject!

[kiran hiriyanna]

dear sir/madam,
i am running windows ME on my laptop.  i have a lot of info on it. without having to back up, can i install llinux over w/ME and later erase w/ME?
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Re: Sendmail not sending queue's out.

[Mike Dresser]

> not me... Hell, I'm lucky if I remember to respond once ;-)
Odd, just got another one.  Nothing in my mqueue matches this.. I'm
wondering why it keeps coming back.

Anyways, i see a few connection reset by peer, a connection timed out, and
a mailbox unavailable in my /var/spool/mqueue.  Some have been in the
queue for 3 days.  I just manually sendmail -q'd, and one of the 3 day old
ones went away.

> Throw the bat book at them - makes a very good lart
It's one of those make money by browsing thingys.  Too lazy to
unsubscribe, so i just removed the email address i used.

> Don't keep me in suspense...  Have you looked at the new queueing
> support, and perused /etc/mail/sendmail.conf ?
Nope, didn't install any mail services on it, just used ssmtp.
Haven't had time lately to play with much, mostly running around in
circles fixing MCSE bearing supervisor mistakes.

mike

Re: What's making the list go back in time?

[Mike Dresser]

On Thu, 4 Oct 2001, Jeffrey W. Baker wrote:

> debian-user is redelivering messages from several days ago.  I just got a
> batch of several dozen in the last minute, dated from the past week.
> These aren't delayed messages; I already got them once.
>
> -jwb

Yay, i thought _i_ was insane!

It's doing the same thing for me, i was wondering why i was re-reading
Richard's emails over and over.

mike

package sig checking ?

[christophe barbé]

Is-it possible to configure apt-get to check package GPG signature
before installing it ?

Christophe

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Re: Trying to figure out where the kernel sources went.

[John Patton]

On Fri, Oct 05, 2001 at 04:00:31PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> apt-get install kernel-source-2.2.19pre17
> 
> and also
> 
> apt-get install kernel-headers-2.2.19pre17

You don't need the headers package if you install the source
one... the headers come with the source. I would `dpkg -r
kernel-headers-2.2.19pre17`.

> /usr/src/kernel-headers-2.2.19pre17-compact
> /usr/src/kernel-headers-2.2.19pre17-idepci
>
> Which one of those two do I use? Uname doesn't specify either of them.

I would delete them both.

> There's also a file kernel-source-2.2.19pre17.bz2 in /usr/src I presume these
> are the kernel sources, but shouldn't they be unpacked somewhere? If I need to
> do that myself, where should I put them?

It's not automatically unpacked. Do a `bzcat kernel-source* | tar xv`
or something to unpack it (you will need bzip2 to be able to do this).
It will create a dir called something like `kernel-2.2.19pre17`. You
then need to create a link to it like so:

ln -s /usr/src/kernel-2.2.19pre17 /usr/src/linux

It's important that it be called "linux"... a number of utilities
assume that that's where your kernel source is.

> P.S. I have found the kernel how-to, but that didn't answer my questions.

If you unpack the original kernel source from kernel.org it will be
unpacked into a directory named "linux" already. Hence the how-to's
and so forth assume that you don't need any help on that part.

Good luck... and if you need any more help just ask. Oh, make sure
that you can boot with your original kernel in some way before
installing the new one. You most likely won't get it perfectly right
the first time through.

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Stable -> 2.4 kernel, best path?

[Stan Brown]

I have a stable machine, that I need to use the 2.4 kernel on. I remebr a
while back lloking inot this. 

As I recall, I found 2 ways to do this.

1. Some kind soul had created a set of packages for this (kernel, lbc, file
utilites ...)

2, Upgrading to Progeny

Am I recalling this corectly?

If so could someone point me to a source for the ackages for choice 1?

Also what do people think is the least risky way to do this?

Basicly I have a machine that I need to get into production ASAP, and it
needs largefile support.

Thanks for any recomendations.

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company that can't stand for 1 bit of competition.
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NIS/NFS alternatives?

[Greg Fischer]

I'm administrating a network of Debian potato machines using NIS/NFS at
a small high school right now.  We're behind a pretty beefy firewall,
but I still know it's not very secure.  I couldn't get LDAP
authentication working and I only had 2 days to do the whole thing.
Probably at the end of the year, I am going to upgrade the lab to woody
(which will hopefully be stable) and reconsider
filesharing/authentication.  I'd like each user to be able to sit down
at any workstation and be able to access their files.  Any ideas?

I'll probably give OpenLDAP another shot, thereby replacing NIS, but NFS
isn't known for its security either.  Anyone have any good or bad things
to say about CFS, OpenAFS, or NFS/stunnel?  What would be the easiest to
administrate while still providing decent security?  Keep in mind these
machines aren't exactly holding top secret documents.  It has to be easy
to administrate (I won't be there 99.999% of the time) and reliable.
Any suggestions are welcome. Thanks!

--Greg

Re: Stable -> 2.4 kernel, best path?

[Max Lock]

 Hi there,

 Very simple thanks to the Debian Developers, whom I regularly
worship...

 1, add the following to /etc/apt/sources.list:

deb http://people.debian.org/~bunk/debian potato main

 2, run apt-get update
 3, run apt-get dist-upgrade
 4, install your 2.4 kernel
 5, scoff at how cool Debian is :)

 -Cheers Max.

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Re: wm menus

[Dave Sherohman]

On Thu, Oct 04, 2001 at 08:47:19PM -0500, Rory O'Connor wrote:
> Somehow i managed to blow away my windowmaker menus for myself.  but if i
> start X as root i see that the structure is there for root.  Does anyone
> know what file the wm menus are stored in for root...and where i'd put them
> to restore them for my onw user acct?

WindowMaker stores its menu in ~/GNUstep/Defaults/WMRootMenu .  By
default, this file contains simply the line

"menu.hook"

which instructs it to search for the file menu.hook in
~/GNUstep/Library/WindowMaker/ (which normally won't exist) and
/etc/X11/WindowMaker/ (which will be found).

If you have edited your menu, wmakerconf/WPrefs will have placed an
actual menu structure into ~/GNUstep/Defaults/WMRootMenu instead of
the menu.hook line.

So, how do you recover?  Two options:

1)  If you just lost your menus on the most recent edit, you may have
a ~/GNUstep/Defaults/WMRootMenu.bak (wmakerconf creates it, I don't
know whether WPrefs does).  Copy it to ~/GNUstep/Defaults/WMRootMenu
and your previous menu configuration will be restored.

2)  Change ~/GNUstep/Defaults/WMRootMenu back to just say
"menu.hook", which will get you back to the default debian menu
structure.

-- 
When we reduce our own liberties to stop terrorism, the terrorists
have already won. - reverius

Innocence is no protection when governments go bad. - Mr. Slippery

Re: duplicate old posts?

[Dave Sherohman]

On Fri, Oct 05, 2001 at 08:35:54AM -0400, Wayne Topa wrote:
> Using exim. In .forward
> 
> if  $h_MBOX-Line: contains "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
> then
> save /dev/null
> finish
> endif

You don't have to actually (pretend to) save the message anywhere.
Just

if ... then
  seen finish
endif

-- 
When we reduce our own liberties to stop terrorism, the terrorists
have already won. - reverius

Innocence is no protection when governments go bad. - Mr. Slippery

diskless boot over network and DHCP

[Pavel Jurus]

I'm trying to boot diskless machine with 3c905C 
network card over network. I have set up DHCPd on
server machine but i got only this message on client:

DHCP   ( with further dots until time-out ) but 
I know that DHCP server responds  - here is snippet of
DHCPd log:

Listening on LPF/eth1/00:04:76:97:8e:e2/192.168.1.0
Sending on   LPF/eth1/00:04:76:97:8e:e2/192.168.1.0
Listening on LPF/eth0/00:01:02:fa:16:46/147.231.4.0
Sending on   LPF/eth0/00:01:02:fa:16:46/147.231.4.0
Sending on   Socket/fallback/fallback-net
DHCPDISCOVER from 00:04:76:97:8e:e7 via eth1
DHCPOFFER on 192.168.1.1 to 00:04:76:97:8e:e7 via eth1
DHCPDISCOVER from 00:04:76:97:8e:e7 via eth1
DHCPOFFER on 192.168.1.1 to 00:04:76:97:8e:e7 via eth1
DHCPDISCOVER from 00:04:76:97:8e:e7 via eth1
DHCPOFFER on 192.168.1.1 to 00:04:76:97:8e:e7 via eth1
DHCPDISCOVER from 00:04:76:97:8e:e7 via eth1
DHCPOFFER on 192.168.1.1 to 00:04:76:97:8e:e7 via eth1
DHCPDISCOVER from 00:04:76:97:8e:e7 via eth1
DHCPOFFER on 192.168.1.1 to 00:04:76:97:8e:e7 via eth1

and so on...

So client asks for ip address and server responds but
client keep asking like if it didn't get any response.
Also I'm not sure whether the problem is not in consequent
tftp download of kernel image but I would expect that
at least "DHCP.." message would vanish, and tcpdump
doesn't show and tftp activity.

Thanks for any ideas

Pavel

Here is my dhcpd.conf with maybe some redundant options:


# dhcpd.conf
#
# Sample configuration file for ISC dhcpd
#

# option definitions common to all supported networks...
option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0;
option broadcast-address 192.168.1.255;
option tftp-server-name "meteo";
use-host-decl-names on;
subnet 147.231.4.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
}

subnet 192.168.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
host  meteo01 {
hardware ethernet 00:04:76:97:8E:E7;
fixed-address 192.168.1.1;
server-name "meteo";
filename "vmlinuz-2.4.9";
option host-name "meteo01";
option bootfile-name "vmlinuz-2.4.9";
option root-path "/var/lib/diskless/meteo01/root";
}
}

No ARP-Reply

[seidel]

Hi !

i am trying to publish an arp entry on my firewall as follows:

arp -s [IP-Adress] [MAC-Adress] pub

but when i ping this IP-Address from my internal network i do not get an 
ARP reply from it.

What did I do wrong ?


Thanks 

markus

How do you set time limits in ProFTP using PAM?

[Kimsey-Hickman, Brian]

I am trying to set time limits on when users can use our ProFTP site using
PAM.  I am using Potato 2.2 Rev 2.

I opened /etc/pam.d/ftp and added the line:

account required pam_time.so

Then I opened /etc/security/time.conf and added the line

ftp;tty* & ttyp*;username;Al-0500

Looking at the documentation that's all I saw that you should have to do but
obviously not
because its not working.  Does anybody have any ideas?

Thanks,

Brian

Re: PDF viewer...

[pacmac]

I use acroread, and it works fine :-)

apt-get install acroread

On Wed, Oct 03, 2001 at 05:52:39PM -0700, Jeffrey W. Baker wrote:
> 
> 
> On Thu, 4 Oct 2001, Ricardo Diz wrote:
> 
> > Hi there!
> >
> > I wanted to know what is the best PDF viewer around. I installed
> > Acrobat Reader, but I found it not being as good as I hoped.
> 
> Acrobat Reader is actually the best of them by far.  It renders legibly,
> doesn't crash that I've seen, and can navigate within the document.
> Unfortunately it is Not Free and also only available on Intel
> architecture.
> 
> xpdf is pretty good but not as legible as Acrobat.
> 
> ggv frequently fails to parse the PDF document.  I'd actually say that 9
> times out of 10 ggv will choke on a document I download from the Internet.
> 
> HTH,
> jwb
> 
> 
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Re: PDF viewer...

[Andrew Perrin]

Unfortunately my experience is that acroread is the most reliable,
particularly for commerically-produced pdf's like one finds on the web. It
sure would be nice to have a non-Adobe option, given their recent
behavior.

ap

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On Sat, 6 Oct 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I use acroread, and it works fine :-)
> 
> apt-get install acroread
> 
> On Wed, Oct 03, 2001 at 05:52:39PM -0700, Jeffrey W. Baker wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > On Thu, 4 Oct 2001, Ricardo Diz wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi there!
> > >
> > > I wanted to know what is the best PDF viewer around. I installed
> > > Acrobat Reader, but I found it not being as good as I hoped.
> > 
> > Acrobat Reader is actually the best of them by far.  It renders legibly,
> > doesn't crash that I've seen, and can navigate within the document.
> > Unfortunately it is Not Free and also only available on Intel
> > architecture.
> > 
> > xpdf is pretty good but not as legible as Acrobat.
> > 
> > ggv frequently fails to parse the PDF document.  I'd actually say that 9
> > times out of 10 ggv will choke on a document I download from the Internet.
> > 
> > HTH,
> > jwb
> > 
> > 
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Re: Characters can't be shown correctly on tty

[pacmac]

Try to do cat /etc/* to solvent the problem :-)

On Fri, Oct 05, 2001 at 01:11:20AM +0800, Liu Tao wrote:
> Hi
> I typed "cat /dev/random" on tty1, and some strange characters scrolled ,
> so I pressed Ctrl-c to terminate cat. But after that, characters can't be 
> shown correctly on tty1, they are shown as strange characters.
> Other ttys are normal. I tried "cat /dev/random" on Konsole, and it doesn't
> have this problem.
> 
> Does that mean there are exploits  in ttys' driver code?
> 
> --
> Regards
> Liu Tao
> 
> 
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Re: Stable -> 2.4 kernel, best path?

[Stephen Gran]

Thus spake Stan Brown:
> I have a stable machine, that I need to use the 2.4 kernel on. I remebr a
> while back lloking inot this. 
> 
> As I recall, I found 2 ways to do this.
> 
> 1. Some kind soul had created a set of packages for this (kernel, lbc, file
> utilites ...)
> 
> 2, Upgrading to Progeny
> 
> Am I recalling this corectly?
> 
> If so could someone point me to a source for the ackages for choice 1?
> 
> Also what do people think is the least risky way to do this?
> 
> Basicly I have a machine that I need to get into production ASAP, and it
> needs largefile support.
> 
> Thanks for any recomendations.

Hello,
You can upgrade the kernel without messing with anything else - all you
have to do is either
a) download the latest kernel-source packafe (apt-gettable) and compile
in your needed options, make kpkg and so forth, or 
b) download the tar.gz from www.kernel.org - what I generally do,
although it's unpatched.  Compile in your needed options, make clean,
etc, and reboot.
There are a number of good walkthroughs online - a google search for
kernel recompile or something should give you more than enough options.
One note as an afterthought - if you've never done this before, and
aren't sure what options you need to enable, copying the .config file
from your current kernel source directory into the new one before
configuring can be helpful - at least you'll have all the same options
chosen as before.
Good luck,
Steve


pgp07IM8ofI0v.pgp
Description: PGP signature

HUGE .xsession-errors file

[David Purton]

at some point in the last day or so my .xsession-erros fil grew to an
enormous size and completely filled up my hard disk (like almost 1GB in
size).

it seemed to contain binary junk, but I've delete it now (needed to
download my mail :)  )

what would cause this?

cheers

dc


But, with very few exceptions, it is the composers of
the tunes, not the writers of the words, which have
made our English hymns famous.  The average Englishman
will happily sing any words to a good tune.

Reginald Frary
   "Don't upset the choir"

David Purton

http://www.chariot.net.au/~dcpurton/
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Re: PDF viewer...

[Ricardo Diz]

ok, then. I think I'm going to stick with Acrobat Reader.

Thanks for the help,
Ricardo Diz


On Wed, Oct 03, 2001 at 05:52:39PM -0700, Jeffrey W. Baker wrote:
> 
> 
> On Thu, 4 Oct 2001, Ricardo Diz wrote:
> 
> > Hi there!
> >
> > I wanted to know what is the best PDF viewer around. I installed
> > Acrobat Reader, but I found it not being as good as I hoped.
> 
> Acrobat Reader is actually the best of them by far.  It renders legibly,
> doesn't crash that I've seen, and can navigate within the document.
> Unfortunately it is Not Free and also only available on Intel
> architecture.
> 
> xpdf is pretty good but not as legible as Acrobat.
> 
> ggv frequently fails to parse the PDF document.  I'd actually say that 9
> times out of 10 ggv will choke on a document I download from the Internet.
> 
> HTH,
> jwb
> 
> 
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Re: LAPTOPS AND TWO DIFFERENT WORKPLACES (OT)

[D.]

Thanks for all of the suggestions that I received on
this.  I have passed them on.
Don
--- Dimitri Maziuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> * D. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly:
> > Hi all,
> >   The system administrator at work is a
> subcontract
> > employee.  He is also the administrator at his
> > company.  The company that I work for also has
> > employe's from his company working here and they
> > travel back and forth between companies and use
> their
> > M$ laptops at both sites.  Here is the problem..
> both
> > sites use M$ and my company  has the DHCP set and
> the
> > other company doesn't, so when these people go to
> > their company they have to go and set the nic card
> up.
> 
> *Blam* authomatic ATM machine.
> 
> >   He asked me if I knew of a way to do this and I
> have
> > searched the web and came up dry... I think that a
> lot
> > of the people that are on this list are also very
> > knowledgable about M$ also.  Is there a way to do
> this ...
> 
> Yes. Hire a sysadmin.
> 
> ...
> > with out setting his company up to use DHCP?
> 
> No. The problem here is that lusers are by
> definition 
> incapable of typing the right incantations into
> TCP/IP 
> properties widget. Not to mention M$
> lusers^Wprogrammers 
> who are incapable of programming even remotely sane 
> behaviour in their crapware. But then, a sysadmin
> would 
> know that.
> 
> Dima
> -- 
> Surely there is a polite way to say FOAD.   
> -- Shmuel Metz
> "Go forth and multiply".
> -- Paul Martin
> 
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Re: Problem with hda1 ('/) at boottime, what now?

[dman]

On Fri, Oct 05, 2001 at 11:58:20AM +0200, J.A. de Vries wrote:
| Hi,
| 
| I am having a bit of trouble with one of my systems. At boot it says:
| 
| ---
| /dev/hda1 was not cleanly umnounted, check forced.
| hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } / 21.9%
| hda: dma_intr: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=81949, sector=81948
| end_request: I/O error, dev 03:01 (hda), sector 81948
| hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
| hda: dma_intr: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=81949, sector=81948
| end_request: I/O error, dev 03:01 (hda), sector 81948
| Error reading block 40974 (Attempt to read block from filesystem  resulted in
| short read) while doing inode scan.

Ooh, nice, you've got hardware problems.  When I got similar, but not
quite the same, errors it was because my power supply was too weak to
handle all the stuff in the machine (Compaq is too cheap -- only
110W).  It could be that your harddrive is failing and you should
backup everything you might want to keep and look for a new one.

HTH,
-D

Re: gs vs. gs-aladdin

[dman]

On Thu, Oct 04, 2001 at 06:54:10PM -0700, Bill Wohler wrote:
 
|   Which one will do double-sided printing on my HP OfficeJet G85xi?

This printer doesn't do double-sided printing regardless of what
software you have.  Only the bigger, expensive, usually laser printers
have duplex units (duplex means prints on both sides).

If you set up some filters correctly you can print just the even
pages, walk to the printer, put those pages back in the input tray,
and then print just the odd pages to achieve duplexing, but the
printer's hardware doesn't do that for you.

-D

Re: Trying to figure out where the kernel sources went.

[Ricardo Gazoni]

I'm a newbie also; when I installed the sources, they weren't unpacked.

bzip2 -dc kernel-sources-2.2.19pre17.tar.bz2 | tar xvf -

should do this for you. Think you don't need the headers...

Best regards


Gaz

[EMAIL PROTECTED] gravada:

> Hi,
>
> I am trying to recompile the kernel so I can use the ltmodem drivers. This is
> a first for me, so I still have to figure out a loot of things. Please, bear
> with me.
>
> The docs said that the kernel-headers and/or sources are needed. So I check
> the kernel version with unuma -r, which told me that I am running 2.2.19pre17.
> Knowing that I invoked
>
> apt-get install kernel-source-2.2.19pre17
>
> and also
>
> apt-get install kernel-headers-2.2.19pre17
>
> Thinking I had succesfully loaded the needed libraries I then fired up the
> build_deb script that comes with the ltmodem sources. Bummer, it tells me it
> can't find the headers in
>
> /usr/src/linux
> /usr/src/kernel-headers-2.2.19pre17
> /usr/src/kernel-linux-2.2.19pre17
>
> Indeed ls shows me that there are 2 directories underneath /usr/src:
>
> /usr/src/kernel-headers-2.2.19pre17-compact
> /usr/src/kernel-headers-2.2.19pre17-idepci
>
> Which one of those two do I use? Uname doesn't specify either of them.
>
> There's also a file kernel-source-2.2.19pre17.bz2 in /usr/src I presume these
> are the kernel sources, but shouldn't they be unpacked somewhere? If I need to
> do that myself, where should I put them?
>
> Sorry to pester you guys with all these questions. I tried finding the answers
> on the net and in the doc directories, but was unsucessful.
>
> Grx HdV
>
> P.S. I have found the kernel how-to, but that didn't answer my questions.
>
> --
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> they're the only culture some people have.
>
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> Computing Centre
>
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Re: duplicate old posts?

[dman]

On Fri, Oct 05, 2001 at 09:46:03AM -0500, Dave Sherohman wrote:
| On Fri, Oct 05, 2001 at 08:35:54AM -0400, Wayne Topa wrote:
| > Using exim. In .forward
| > 
| > if  $h_MBOX-Line: contains "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
| > then
| > save /dev/null
| > finish
| > endif
| 
| You don't have to actually (pretend to) save the message anywhere.
| Just
| 
| if ... then
|   seen finish
| endif

Wayne and Dave :

Neat, thanks.  (I want to switch from procmail to exim, but haven't
tested by rules yet).  Say, how do you use maildir folders with exim
filters?

-D

RE: HUGE .xsession-errors file

[Sean 'Shaleh' Perry]

On 05-Oct-2001 David Purton wrote:
> at some point in the last day or so my .xsession-erros fil grew to an
> enormous size and completely filled up my hard disk (like almost 1GB in
> size).
> 
> it seemed to contain binary junk, but I've delete it now (needed to
> download my mail :)  )
> 
> what would cause this?
> 

this file contains any output on stderr durected to the tty X was started on. 
So any program started via the menu system or via your xinit/xsession script.

RE: Stable -> 2.4 kernel, best path?

[Bob Koss]

> Hello,
> You can upgrade the kernel without messing with anything else - all you
> have to do is either
> a) download the latest kernel-source packafe (apt-gettable) and compile
> in your needed options, make kpkg and so forth, or
> b) download the tar.gz from www.kernel.org - what I generally do,
> although it's unpatched.  Compile in your needed options, make clean,
> etc, and reboot.
> There are a number of good walkthroughs online - a google search for
> kernel recompile or something should give you more than enough options.
> One note as an afterthought - if you've never done this before, and
> aren't sure what options you need to enable, copying the .config file
> from your current kernel source directory into the new one before
> configuring can be helpful - at least you'll have all the same options
> chosen as before.
> Good luck,
> Steve
>


If someone is going to compile the kernel, what advantage does the "Debian
way" have over the procedure in the kernel compile howto?

Re: Network Cards

[dman]

On Fri, Oct 05, 2001 at 08:37:48AM -0500, Mike Grover wrote:
| Hi all,
|   I am new to using debian.
|   I have just finished installing ver 2.2 r3 and was wondering how I
|   go about setting up network cards?
| 
|   I have a ne2000 in the machine, but when I type ifconfig, All
|   I see is the local loop back interface.

It the card PCI or ISA?  If it is ISA then add

alias eth0 ne

to some file in /etc/modutils/ (pick a name that you will remember is
your custom stuff, not packaged stuff) and run 'update-modules'.  Then
edit /etc/network/interfaces and include the config for the interface
(ie, ip addres, etc or specify using dhcp).  If it is a PCI card, then
I don't know the module name but the procedure is the same except for
the name of the module.

HTH,
-D

Re: duplicate old posts?

[Dave Sherohman]

On Fri, Oct 05, 2001 at 12:04:10PM -0400, dman wrote:
> Neat, thanks.  (I want to switch from procmail to exim, but haven't
> tested by rules yet).  Say, how do you use maildir folders with exim
> filters?

IIRC, if you save to $HOME/Mail/foo, it goes into mbox format and if
you save to $HOME/Mail/foo/, it uses maildir.

-- 
When we reduce our own liberties to stop terrorism, the terrorists
have already won. - reverius

Innocence is no protection when governments go bad. - Mr. Slippery

Re: Problem with hda1 ('/) at boottime, what now?

[Carlos Sousa]

So I log in as root (glad I didn't disable that yet) and do:


(none):~# mount -n -o remount, rw /


There should be no space between the comma and "rw". But the next 
lines in your mail suggest that it worked, so now I'm puzzled...



EXT2-fs warning: mounting unchecked fs, running e2fsck is recommended
(none):~# e2fsck /dev/hda1
e2fsck 1.18, 11-Nov-1999 for EXT2 FS 0.5b, 95/08/09
/dev/hda1 is mounted.

WARNING!!!  Running e2fsck on a mounted filesystem may cause
SEVERE filesystem damage.

Do you really want to continue (y/n)? no


As far as I know, the safe way to check a root filesystem is having it 
mounted read-only. (actually, better to have it not mounted at all, 
but then you wouldn't be able to access any commands in /bin, configs 
in /etc, ...). So if you make sure the root filesystem is mounted 
read-only (eg by not executing the mount command above), it should be 
OK to run the check.



After previous boots when I tried to remount the root as rw I got an
error message that /etc/mtab couldn't be written. That I do not get now.


That could be because of the extra space in your mount command (see 
above). The "rw" would not be seen as an option but rather as a mount 
point, mount would ignore it because it doesn't exist, and I imagine 
the root filesystem would be remounted read-only again, thus not 
allowing the creation of mtab (currently mounted filesystems).


Hope this helps a bit. Perhaps someone else can be of further assistance.

Carlos

Re: duplicate old posts?

[dman]

On Fri, Oct 05, 2001 at 11:22:00AM -0500, Dave Sherohman wrote:
| On Fri, Oct 05, 2001 at 12:04:10PM -0400, dman wrote:
| > Neat, thanks.  (I want to switch from procmail to exim, but haven't
| > tested by rules yet).  Say, how do you use maildir folders with exim
| > filters?
| 
| IIRC, if you save to $HOME/Mail/foo, it goes into mbox format and if
| you save to $HOME/Mail/foo/, it uses maildir.

Thanks.  I'll try it out sometime :-).

-D

Re: anyone using postfix in a home LAN setup?

[Darren Wyn Rees]

On Fri, Oct 05, 2001 at 12:13:02AM -0500, Matthew Garman wrote:
 
> Have you been able to get postfix to send mail to different machines on
> the LAN (completely internal, no external DNS routing)?

I'm sure this is possible with a Postfix 'transport map', like

your.host.name smtp:[192.168.1.51]

whereby mail is delivered directly; [] suppresses MX lookups.

-- 
Darren Wyn Rees [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: linux + winME

[Matthew Garman]

On Fri, Oct 05, 2001 at 07:03:50AM -0700, kiran hiriyanna wrote:
> i am running windows ME on my laptop.  i have a lot of info on it.
> without having to back up, can i install llinux over w/ME and later
> erase w/ME?

It depends on the setup of your disk that contains the WinME installation.
If you have a single partition which uses the total capacity of your hard
drive, then you're going to have some difficulty.

As a mimimum, Linux needs two partitions: one partition to actually hold
the system, and one swap partition (for virtual memory paging).

So if your Windows installation occupies a single partition on your entire
disk, you're in a bad way since you'll need to repartition.  Although
there are utilities like Parition Magic, I would *never* use them without
backing up the important stuff first.

I remember briefly reading about the UMSDOS filesystem a while ago.  If
I'm not mistaken, I believe this let you install Linux on a DOS
filesystem.  It might be something for you to look into---I never used it,
so I don't know any of the specifics.

Hope that helps!
Matt

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"Do you think that it would be too much to say that two hours of the 
 working time of every efficient member of a community goes to feed 
 the red fiend of war?"  --Upton Sinclair, _The_Jungle_

Re: Can't compile an exact copy of kernel image.

[Ricardo Gazoni]

Michael Heldebrant gravada:

> On Thu, 2001-10-04 at 19:36, Ricardo Gazoni wrote:
> > Yes, I did. In fact, step 1 loaded /boot/config-2.2.19pre17 and saved it in
> > /usr/src/kernel-source-2.2.19pre17/.config. To be precise, doing this via 
> > make
> > xconfig only adds comment lines to the .config file. I checked it out 
> > carefully
> >
> > Thanks anyway...
> >
> > Osamu Aoki gravada:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Did you copy configuration from /boot/config-
> > >
> > > Otheise config change makes kernel size different.
> > >
> > > Cheers:-)
> > >
> > > On Thu, Oct 04, 2001 at 06:08:50PM -0300, Ricardo Gazoni wrote:
> > > > I'm a newbie on kernel compiling, and would like to recompile the kernel
> > > > on my
> > > > machine to remove undesired drives. So, I got
> > > > kernel-source-2.2.19pre17.deb,
> > > > kernel-package.deb and gcc272_2.7.2.3-15 and followed the instructions:
> > > >
> > > > 0 - $ make xconfig
> > > > 1 - in xconfig, loaded /boot/config-2.2.19pre17; saved and exited
> > > > 2 - $ make-kpkg clean
> > > > 3 - changed the Makefile, to make EXTRAVERSION = foo17 (to avoid module
> > > > problems)
> > > > 4 - $ fakeroot make-kpkg --revision=foo.1.0 kernel_image
> > > > 5 - (as root) # dpkg -i kernel-image-2.2.19foo17_foo.1.0_i386.deb
> > > >
> > > > Everything worked just fine until now. But the old kernel image
> > > > (vmlinuz-2.2.19pre17) is 1.001.473 bytes long, and the new one
> > > > (vmlinuz-2.2.19foo17) is 1.033.565 bytes long. But the worst thing
> > > > is that the new kernle doesn't boot. What am I doing wrong??
>
> Has the old kernel and the new kernel been compiled with the exact same
> gcc version?  If they haven't there's a more than likely chance that the
> kernels will end up differently sized.
>
> About the failed boot?  Are you trying to optimzie for a specific
> architecture?  Is it complaining about an initrd?
>
> --mike
>
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The old kernel reports gcc 2.7.2.3 at boot time. So do the new one. The boot 
failure
happens at the "Partition check" in  hda. It reports as follows:

Partition check:
 hda: timeout waiting for DMA
 hda: irq timeout: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest }

The two last lines repeats twice or three times after a litlle delay, and the 
boot
process just continues, as if nothing hapened. But everything goes wrong from 
here on
(can't mount device for rw, and the timeout message periodically blinks on the 
screen,
even after logon. Didn't go any further).

The funny thing is that I have to turn off the machine (just pressing reset 
doesn't
work), or the old kernel won't boot also(!).

'Seems my IDE is an "ALI15x3 not 100% native mode (will probe irq's later)". If 
I compile
a kernel with the specific (experimental) driver things works fine. But the old 
kernel
also does work fine, and it's not compiled with the experimental driver!!!

What is happening?

Thanks


P.S. Checked the differences between files /boot/System.map-2.2.19foo17 and
/boot/System.map-2.2.19pre17 and they do differ, although I don't know the 
meaning of the
differences. Gonna try to compile it using the config file withaout the xconfig 
to see
what happens.

Re: Can't compile an exact copy of kernel image.

[Ricardo Gazoni]

Osamu Aoki gravada:

> On Thu, Oct 04, 2001 at 09:36:24PM -0300, Ricardo Gazoni wrote:
> > Yes, I did. In fact, step 1 loaded /boot/config-2.2.19pre17 and saved it in
> > /usr/src/kernel-source-2.2.19pre17/.config. To be precise, doing this via 
> > make
> > xconfig only adds comment lines to the .config file. I checked it out 
> > carefully
> >
> > > > Everything worked just fine until now. But the old kernel image
> > > > (vmlinuz-2.2.19pre17) is 1.001.473 bytes long, and the new one
> > > > (vmlinuz-2.2.19foo17) is 1.033.565 bytes long. But the worst thing
> > > > is that the new kernle doesn't boot. What am I doing wrong??
>
> If difference is few bytes, I suppose some difference in  compile
> condition may have contributed.  But 30KB is large.
>
> Just to be sure, why not recompile without using xconfig.
>
> Also check difference in /boot/System.map-2.2.19
>
> Also are you using right compiler version.
>
> Besides, recompile again and see whether result is same or not.  If
> different, you may have had memory corruption during compile.  Good luck
> :-)
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Compiler version seems OK. Both kernels reports gcc version 2.7.2.3. But the 
files
/boot/System.map-2.2.19foo17 and /boot/System.map.2.2.19pre17 do differ, but I 
don't know
what it means. I'm going to try to compile without using xconfig now, to see 
what
happens.

Thanks a lot

Re: HUGE .xsession-errors file

[burningclown]

This happened to me, too. I reported some weird jumps in the % usage
reported by df, and subsequently found that this file had mushroomed at
some point (the other % were addressed by running apt-get clean).

Glenn Becker

On Sat, 6
Oct 2001, David Purton wrote:

> at some point in the last day or so my .xsession-erros fil grew to an
> enormous size and completely filled up my hard disk (like almost 1GB in
> size).
>
> it seemed to contain binary junk, but I've delete it now (needed to
> download my mail :)  )
>
> what would cause this?
>
> cheers
>
> dc
>
> 
> But, with very few exceptions, it is the composers of
> the tunes, not the writers of the words, which have
> made our English hymns famous.  The average Englishman
> will happily sing any words to a good tune.
>
> Reginald Frary
>"Don't upset the choir"
>
> David Purton
>
> http://www.chariot.net.au/~dcpurton/
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>

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Re: duplicate old posts?

[Wayne Topa]

Dave Sherohman([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
> On Fri, Oct 05, 2001 at 08:35:54AM -0400, Wayne Topa wrote:
> > Using exim. In .forward
> > 
> > if  $h_MBOX-Line: contains "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
> > then
> > save /dev/null
> > finish
> > endif
> 
> You don't have to actually (pretend to) save the message anywhere.
> Just
> 
> if ... then
>   seen finish
> endif

Thanks Dave!
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Re: Network Cards

[Wayne Topa]

Mike Grover([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
> Hi all,
>   I am new to using debian.
>   I have just finished installing ver 2.2 r3 and was wondering how I
>   go about setting up network cards?
> 
>   I have a ne2000 in the machine, but when I type ifconfig, All
>   I see is the local loop back interface.

Add the card to /etc/modultils/aliases

If it is a pci card
 alias eth0 ne2k-pci
otherwise
 alias eth0 ne

Edit /etc/network/interfaces
to look something like this

# automatically added when upgrading
auto eth0
 iface eth0 inet static
 address 192.168.1.1
 network 192.168.1.0
 netmask 255.255.255.0
 broadcast 192.168.1.255

Then run /etc/init.d/modutils

Truthfully I don't remember if you have to reboot.  Its been so long
since I have done the above I just don't recall.

HTH=Hope This Helps, YMMV=Your Mileage May Vary, HAND=Have A Nice Day

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Snort - syslog, docs & packages [longish]

[Robb Kidd]

	Okay, I'm trying to get to know the pig.  I've only just installed it and 
have done no modifications to the default install other than answer 
debconf's questions.  I notice that my snort-monitored interface leaves 
promiscuous mode and enters it again five seconds later.  I'm assuming 
this is from the "/etc/cron.daily/5snort" script (supplied by the 
package) issuing it's /etc/init.d/snort restart on line 28.
	[syslog] Is there any reason why I shouldn't add a line that sends to 
syslog a message about Snort restarting before the restart is given (or 
that it shouldn't be included by default)?  I ask this because I had 
been using an older NIC at the external interface and it was regularly 
choking and dropping out of promiscuous mode and, for a while, I don't 
know why. Logging the restart would at least document that it was a 
planned mode change.
	[docs] I haven't delved into the docs, yet.  I've got the what is 
supplied by snort-doc and the snort.org site.  Are there any other good 
recommended references?
	[packages] Also, I notice that snort is also suffering from poor package 
descriptions. snort, snort-common, snort-doc, snort-mysql and 
snort-rules-default all seem to have the following:


Description: Flexible NIDS (Network Intrusion Detection System)
 Snort is a libpcap-based packet sniffer/logger which can be used as a
 lightweight network intrusion detection system. It features rules
 based logging and can perform content searching/matching in addition
 to being used to detect a variety of other attacks and probes, such
 as buffer overflows, stealth port scans, CGI attacks, SMB probes, and
 much more. Snort has a real-time alerting capability, with alerts being
 sent to syslog, a separate "alert" file, or even to a Windows computer
 via Samba.

	... which doesn't really help a newbie like me differentiate between the 
pieces.

Re: Error files in /

[Michael C. Alonzo]

On Thu, Sep 27, 2001 at 07:46:57PM -0500, Jeremy wrote:
> 
> I'm running into a strange occurance.  I evidentally have something that is
> creating  error files in my / directory.  They're usually named something
> like "errs9vkVeD" or "errskFcjY", always beginning with "errs", ending in a
> seeming random sequence of numbers, and they're all zero bytes.  Has anyone
> seen this before?
> 
> If it helps, I'm running kernel 2.4.9, X 4.1.0, and the programs I use
> frequently are RXVT, XMMS, Emacs, and Mozilla.  (although I've never noticed
> the files popping up during any particular time or when any particular
> program is run.  It seems very random, but frequent)
> 
> Thanks for listening,
> Jeremy
> 
> 
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I had the same problem about a month ago. what i did was to delete
2.2.19 and use 2.4.7 (only one kernel).

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RE: Instalation on a laptop advise...

[Alexander Wallace]

I have another debian system I'll try compiling the module today... But,
what is it that I need to copy? just the tulip.o? will there not be
dependencies and stuff like that? Can I put that tulip o in a floppy in
/lib/modules/net or something like that and give it to it at startup? I
tryed this already but with a tulip.o copiled using Libranet, and it
didn't work, if it is becouse of the distro (although is debian based)
I'll try it with debian today...

Thanks!

On Wed, 3 Oct 2001, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:

>
> On 03-Oct-2001 Alexander Wallace wrote:
> > Hi there! I have a lapotp I want to install debian in, it has a nic that
> > needs a modifyed version of tulip To be able to use it I need to copy
> > the modifyed version and recompile the kernel to recompile the module...
> >
> > The instalation cd I have for debian doesn't have any packages, It get's
> > them from the net... Is there a way to interupt the instalation and add
> > the file and recompile and then install the packages? Or do I have to
> > download the full cds from debian?
> >
>
> best bet would be to get a friend to compile the package(s) for you.  If you
> can manage to install base then you should be able to hand install enough to
> get networking working for you.  The problem will be getting the needed 
> module.
>
> Also, there is a debian-laptop list for anyone seeking laptop specific help.
>
>
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Kde

[Eileen Orbell]

Title: Message



Hi 
all,
 
 What 
windows manager do poeple on the list recommend using?  I have just 
installed Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 (a.k.a. Potato) and was trying to find KDE.  
Could someone point me to this or maybe recomment something 
else
 
Thanks
 
Eileen Orbell
ISA Major
Capitol College
Mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.orbell.net
A good plan today is better than a 
perfect plan tomorrow.
 

Re: Is everyone else seeing duplicate old posts?

[Alexander Wallace]

I am, but I thought it was a problem on my side, now I know it may be
not...

On 4 Oct 2001, hmike wrote:

> The stuff I'm seeing seems to always be coming through:
>
> X-Envelope-Sender:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> and seems to have been received from the list server and then resent?
>
> Anyone else getting this?
>
> --mike
>
>
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Re: Kde

[Charles Baker]

Personally, I prefer WindowMaker

http://www.windowmaker.org/

I hope this doesn't turn into a flame war over window
managers and/or desktop environments.

--- Eileen Orbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all,
>  
>  What windows manager do poeple on the list
> recommend using?  I have
> just installed Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 (a.k.a. Potato)
> and was trying to
> find KDE.  Could someone point me to this or maybe
> recomment something
> else
>  
> Thanks
>  
> Eileen Orbell
> ISA Major
> Capitol College
> Mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.orbell.net  
> A good plan today is better than a perfect plan
> tomorrow.
>  
> 


=
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See http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html

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Re: Kde

[Ben Simpson]

You'll have to wait for future versions of Debian to get KDE.


Ben
- Original Message -
From: "Charles Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Eileen Orbell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 1:41 PM
Subject: Re: Kde


> Personally, I prefer WindowMaker
>
> http://www.windowmaker.org/
>
> I hope this doesn't turn into a flame war over window
> managers and/or desktop environments.
>
> --- Eileen Orbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> >  What windows manager do poeple on the list
> > recommend using?  I have
> > just installed Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 (a.k.a. Potato)
> > and was trying to
> > find KDE.  Could someone point me to this or maybe
> > recomment something
> > else
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Eileen Orbell
> > ISA Major
> > Capitol College
> > Mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > http://www.orbell.net 
> > A good plan today is better than a perfect plan
> > tomorrow.
> >
> >
>
>
> =
> -
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Hacking is a "Good Thing!"
> See http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html
>
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RE: Instalation on a laptop advise...

[Sean 'Shaleh' Perry]

On 05-Oct-2001 Alexander Wallace wrote:
> I have another debian system I'll try compiling the module today... But,
> what is it that I need to copy? just the tulip.o? will there not be
> dependencies and stuff like that? Can I put that tulip o in a floppy in
> /lib/modules/net or something like that and give it to it at startup? I
> tryed this already but with a tulip.o copiled using Libranet, and it
> didn't work, if it is becouse of the distro (although is debian based)
> I'll try it with debian today...
> 

the key is to make sure the kernel version matches the version in Debian.

Re: Kde

[Mark Lanett]

From: "Ben Simpson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


> You'll have to wait for future versions of Debian to get KDE.

Or go to the website from the future, kde.debian.net.

deb http://kde.debian.net potato main crypto optional
deb ftp://kde.debian.net/pub/kde potato main crypto optional
deb http://kde.rap.ucar.edu potato main crypto optional

~mark

RE: Kde

[Eileen Orbell]

Thanks Mark for the source.  Works sweet...


-Original Message-
From: Mark Lanett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 1:57 PM
To: 
Subject: Re: Kde


From: "Ben Simpson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


> You'll have to wait for future versions of Debian to get KDE.

Or go to the website from the future, kde.debian.net.

deb http://kde.debian.net potato main crypto optional
deb ftp://kde.debian.net/pub/kde potato main crypto optional deb
http://kde.rap.ucar.edu potato main crypto optional

~mark




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apt-get do not yields to 'n'

[Mario Olimpio de Menezes]

Hi,

I think apt-get is getting too smart (or independent); look at
these lines:

-
voabaixo:/etc/apt# apt-get install kmail
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
  libc6 libc6-dev
3 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 325  not
upgraded.
Need to get 6556kB of archives. After unpacking 303kB will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] n

Get:1 http://http.us.debian.org unstable/main libc6 2.2.4-3 [3363kB]
6% [1 libc6 452048/3363kB 13%]
-

I had to interrupt it with ^C in order to prevent libc6 of being
upgraded, even answering 'n' (small case, ...).
This happened twice, then I gave up :-)

[]s,
Mario O.de Menezes"Many are the plans in a man's heart, but
IPEN-CNEN/SP is the Lord's purpose that prevails"
http://curiango.ipen.br/~mario Prov. 19.21

Canon and CUPS (was Re: Printing with Epson 880, CUPS, & unstable - landscape only)

[dman]

On Tue, Oct 02, 2001 at 11:56:24PM -0500, Oleksandr Moskalenko wrote:
| > Ok, here's the details :

[
snipped here, if you want them see the old thread (I forgot to
change the subject last time) or ask for a private post
]

|  Not boring dman, fascinating! 

Cool.

| I must say it takes the time I don't have to go into such depth of
| taking CUPS apart. I hope you get it worked out. I couldn't see
| clearly what machine you are trying to print from and to which
| machine. Are you printing directly from your Debian box to a printer
| on LPT? 

I am trying to find a way to get the correct color out of the printer
without manually running gs.  I don't think I can achieve this on
winders at all, so the printer will be directly connected to the Debian box.

|  Anyways, did you go to linuxprinting.org? There is A LOT of stuff for
| BJC 610 there 

I haven't been there recently, nor really looked for that printer
before.  I'll check it out soon.

| and it is listed as "Working Perfectly"
[...]
| Driver Information
|
| bjc600
| Traditional Ghostscript driver.
[...]

Yep, using ghostscript with 'bjc600' specified as the DEVICE produces
the correct byte stream, except that I need to run it manually and
direct the stream to /dev/printers/0.  I want CUPS to do this
automagically when a request is received from the windows client.

Thanks for the info.

-D

Re: Stable -> 2.4 kernel, best path?

[Peter Hugosson-Miller]

Stephen Gran wrote:

> Thus spake Stan Brown:
> > I have a stable machine, that I need to use the 2.4 kernel on. I
> remebr a
> > while back lloking inot this.
> >
> > As I recall, I found 2 ways to do this.
> >
> > 1. Some kind soul had created a set of packages for this (kernel,
> lbc, file
> > utilites ...)
> >
> > 2, Upgrading to Progeny
> >
> > Am I recalling this corectly?
> >
> > If so could someone point me to a source for the ackages for choice
> 1?
> >
> > Also what do people think is the least risky way to do this?
> >
> > Basicly I have a machine that I need to get into production ASAP,
> and it
> > needs largefile support.
> >
> > Thanks for any recomendations.
>
> Hello,
> You can upgrade the kernel without messing with anything else - all
> you
> have to do is either
> a) download the latest kernel-source packafe (apt-gettable) and
> compile
> in your needed options, make kpkg and so forth, or
> b) download the tar.gz from www.kernel.org - what I generally do,
> although it's unpatched.  Compile in your needed options, make clean,
> etc, and reboot.
> There are a number of good walkthroughs online - a google search for
> kernel recompile or something should give you more than enough
> options.
> One note as an afterthought - if you've never done this before, and
> aren't sure what options you need to enable, copying the .config file
> from your current kernel source directory into the new one before
> configuring can be helpful - at least you'll have all the same options
>
> chosen as before.
> Good luck,
> Steve

Steve,

You'll need a lot more than luck to succeed with your suggestion!

Seriously, though, Max Lock's advice was much more sound if you want to
transition from stable to 2.4.x. The Bunk packages contain all those
packages that you need to update, like modutils for instance, compiled
under potato (stable), so if you follow Max's routine it should be
fairly straightforward:

> 1, add the following to /etc/apt/sources.list:
>
>deb http://people.debian.org/~bunk/debian potato main
>
> 2, run apt-get update
> 3, run apt-get dist-upgrade
> 4, install your 2.4 kernel
> 5, scoff at how cool Debian is :)
>
> -Cheers Max.

With your suggestion you'ld have to identify and compile those packages
yourself and install them before starting with the kernel compile.

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installing debian on a Jaz

[Maxime Gamboni]

Hi all !

I am new to this mailinglist (as well as to the linux world :-)
I want to install debian on my pc, but there's already windows installed on 
it, and I don't want to partition the hard disk (which is btw almost full 
already) for debian.
Before I start downloading and installing and end up seeing that it doesn't 
work: Is it possible to install a debian distribution on a Jaz cartridge ? 
(and have at startup something like a boot menu, that allows either to boot 
windows on the hard disk or debian on the Jaz)


Thanks.. bye
Maxime 

Re: Snort - syslog, docs & packages [longish]

[Colin Watson]

On Fri, Oct 05, 2001 at 01:15:16PM -0400, Robb Kidd wrote:
>   [packages] Also, I notice that snort is also suffering from poor
> package descriptions. snort, snort-common, snort-doc, snort-mysql and
> snort-rules-default all seem to have the following:
[...]
>   ... which doesn't really help a newbie like me differentiate
> between the pieces.

There was a recent discussion on debian-devel about this sort of thing.
Please file a bug report - the various snort packages should have
description that let you distinguish them.

-- 
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Re: package sig checking ?

[Colin Watson]

On Fri, Oct 05, 2001 at 04:15:00PM +0200, christophe barb? wrote:
> Is-it possible to configure apt-get to check package GPG signature
> before installing it ?

You can install debsig-verify and change /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg to say
'debsig'. There are very few (none?) signed packages in Debian yet,
though, and IIRC debsig-verify causes you trouble if you try to install
unsigned packages.

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Re: sendmail hash in /

[Mike Pfleger]

* Richard A Nelson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> The hash/hash.db are a fluke, I'll look into that, but the others
> shouldn't be sendmail...
> 
> What version of sendmail did you install ? can you remove those two
> files and run `/usr/share/sendmail/update_db` and see if they return ?

Hi Richard & Colin.

I'll nuke the files and see what happens.  In the meantime, the version
of sendmail is reported by dpkg as:
ii  sendmail   8.11.6+8.12.0. A powerful, efficient, and scalable Mail Tra

Not the latest and greatest, but the latest and greatest in Woody as of
Monday.  Here is the result of update_db:

BananaSlug:/# /usr/share/sendmail/update_db
Checking {sendmail,submit}.mc and related databases...
Creating /etc/mail/databases...
Creating /etc/mail/sendmail.cf...
Creating /etc/mail/submit.cf...
Creating /etc/mail/databases...
Creating /etc/mail/Makefile...
Warning:   genericstable source file not found: hash
   it was created
Informational: genericstable file empty: hash
Informational: confCR_FILE file empty: /etc/mail/relay-domains
Informational: confCT_FILE file empty: /etc/mail/trusted-users
Informational: confCW_FILE file empty: /etc/mail/local-host-names

/etc/mail/aliases: 4 aliases, longest 10 bytes, 70 bytes total
 
Warning:   1 database(s) sources
   were not found, (but were created)
   please investigate.


Here are the contents of /etc/mail:

-rwxr-xr-x1 mail mail 4566 Oct  5 11:36 Makefile
-rw-r--r--1 mail mail  237 Jul  8 22:21 aliases
-rw-r--r--1 mail mail12288 Oct  5 11:36 aliases.db
-rw-r--r--1 mail mail 2255 Oct  5 11:36 databases
-rw-r-1 mail mail0 Jun 18 13:58 dialup.m4
-rw-r--r--1 mail mail   43 Jul 11 11:09 generic-domains
-rw-r--r--1 mail mail  123 Jul 11 11:09 genericstable
-rw-r--r--1 mail mail12288 Jul 19 11:40 genericstable.db
-rw-r--r--1 mail mail  May 10 11:17 helpfile
-rw-r--r--1 mail mail0 Jun 15 16:57 local-host-names
drwxr-xr-x2 mail mail 4096 Oct  1 11:24 peers
-rw-r-1 mail mail0 Jun 18 13:58 provider.m4
-rw-r--r--1 mail mail0 Oct  1 11:24 relay-domains
-rw-r--r--1 mail mail41782 Oct  5 11:36 sendmail.cf
-rw-r--r--1 mail mail 9336 Oct  1 11:24 sendmail.conf
-rw-r--r--1 mail mail 1247 Oct  1 11:24 sendmail.mc
-rw-r--r--1 mail mail41472 Jul 11 13:56 sendmail.mf
-rw-r--r--1 mail mail  149 Oct 25  1999 service.switch
-rw-r--r--1 mail mail  180 Oct 25  1999 service.switch-nodns
-rw-r--r--1 mail mail39792 Oct  5 11:36 submit.cf
-rw-r--r--1 mail mail 2069 Aug 21 09:50 submit.mc
-rw-r--r--1 mail mail0 Jun 15 16:57 trusted-users
-rw-r--r--1 mail mail   74 Jul 11 11:09 userdb
-rw-r--r--1 mail mail 8192 Jul 11 14:20 userdb.db


And now the interesting bits in / :

-rw-r--r--1 mail mail0 Oct  5 11:36 hash
-rw-r--r--1 mail mail12288 Oct  5 11:36 hash.db

Urk.  I'm not getting any obvious mail transport problems, so this is
not screwing me out of productive time, but it does concern me.  I am
nowhere near even half-way into the bat book due to more pressing life
demands; but I wish I didn't have to hassle you guys about this :(

Richard: If you want info/files off-list, please advise accordingly.

Thanks for your efforts,
Mike Pfleger

There's seventy brilliant people on earth.
Where are they hiding?
"Yashar" -Cabaret Voltaire (off of "2x45")

Re: how to install debian originally from cd but copied to HD

[Michael Heldebrant]

On Fri, 2001-10-05 at 01:35, ramsubs wrote:
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Michael Heldebrant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 3:40 AM
> Subject: Re: how to install debian originally from cd but copied to HD
> 
> 
> > On Thu, 2001-10-04 at 14:12, ramsubs wrote:
> > > i'm a linux newbie and playing around with debian to learn. i've
> > installed and reinstalled it many times but the routine of swapping cds
> > (from the 3 cd-set) is bothersome.
> > >
> > > so i partitioned my HD increasing it by 3 partitions with the idea of
> > copying the 3 cds into the 3 partitions, and subsequently trying to
> > install from the HD direct. (partitions are fat32; but i had no problems
> > reading the boot floppies info from hda6)
> > >
> > > the installation process asks for sources from CDROM, filesystem, ftp,
> > http,.. I picked filesystem assuming i could refer to my local
> > partitions.
> > >
> > > i had to modify the /etc/apt/sources.list to read from the 3 new
> > partitions (hda6, hda7, hda8) but i'm stumped. i get error messages.
> > typically i used a line such as:
> > > deb file:/hda6/dists/potato/main/binary-i386/Packages
> > > (the installer prompted this asking if i wanted to edit the file
> > manually, and then displayed ae to edit the file)
> > >
> > > i've checked man apt.get, apt.conf, sources.list but they don't
> > provide help i need (at least to my little understanding).
> > >
> > > hope someone can help me.
> > >
> >
> > Firstly please don't post to the list in html.
> 
> sorry, i didn't realize it. will fix that. let me know if this one doesn't
> come out okay.
> 
> >  What I BELEIVE you are
> 
> you believed perfectly...
> 
> > going to need to mount each of these partitions as a file system let's
> > for the sake of ease create cdrom1 cdrom2 cdrom3 in /mnt.  I'm not sure
> > if apt is going to be able to understand the schizophrenia of the three
> > sources since I've never installed from cd copied to hd, or cd for that
> > matter.
> >
> > So from a console (alt-f2 and enter) after you get the install running
> >
> > cd /mnt
> >
> > or if it isn't there just do it from the root system and adjust
> 
> wonderfully existed there... and worked just like that.
> 
> > accordingly, I haven't installed in a a while.
> >
> > mkdir cdrom1
> > mkdir cdrom2
> > mkdir cdrom3
> > mount -t vfat /dev/hda6 /mnt/cdrom1
> > mount -t vfat /dev/hda7 /mnt/cdrom2
> > mount -t vfat /dev/hda8 /mnt/cdrom3
> >
> 
> everything went fine here too... (beginning to love debian more...)
> 
> > then in sources.list:
> >
> > deb file:/mnt/cdrom1/dists/potato/main/binary-i386/Packages
> > deb file:/mnt/cdrom2/dists/potato/main/binary-i386/Packages
> > deb file:/mnt/cdrom3/dists/potato/main/binary-i386/Packages
> >
> > That should work for you.
> 
> now i really love debian.
> 
> however, just for the record, i hadn't understood the construction of the
> "deb file" statement so the lines above that you copied from me are my
> mistake.
> for the record, after experimenting a bit, i found the right structure.
> 
> deb file:/mnt/cdrom1/  potato  contrib main
> deb file:/mnt/cdrom1/  potato/non-US  contrib main
> (i was a little anxious here doing a "potato/main", but boy what joy when it
> worked. newbie glee!)

Heh, sorry about that.  I just tried to modify what you gave me without
thinking ;>  I'm glad you figured out how to make it work, I think once
you dig in and read the man files and check the examples debian really
becomes pretty logical to run.  Of course there are interesting
exceptions, but that's what the list is here for.


> deb file:/mnt/cdrom2/  potato  contrib main
> deb file:/mnt/cdrom2/  potato/non-US  contrib main
> 
> deb file:/mnt/cdrom3/  potato  contrib main
> deb file:/mnt/cdrom3/  potato/non-US  contrib main
> 
> 
> i was unsuccessful in trying to directly refer to the Packages file (as in
> the earlier incorrect code-statement). the installer didn't return any
> informative error message except to say "Malformed Line". i remember reading
> in man sources.list that i should end the line with "/"; i tried but it
> complained the same.
> 
> >
> > --mike
> >
> 
> everything worked like a charm.
> 
> thank you so much mike.
> 
> now i can fool around more.. :-)

Enjoy fooling around, I sure do.

--mike

ping works not on all sites

[Timo \"Blazko\" Boewing]

Hello everyone,

I have a strange problem: I am using german DSL (T-DSL) and can reach
almost all sites. However, some sites cannot really be contacted from my
station. DNS resolve works, cos I get the IP from that site when pinging
as well as the real hostname of a destination machine.

I know from collegues that they can contact those sites using the same
provider and DSL. Only the same sites do not work since I have DSL. It
is not a temporary problem.

I am using unstable/sid with pppoe userspace from roaring penguin.

Thanks for any help,

Timo

Re: anyone using postfix in a home LAN setup?

[James D Strandboge]

On Fri, Oct 05, 2001 at 12:13:02AM -0500 or thereabouts, Matthew Garman wrote:
> 
> Does anyone out there have a home LAN setup using non-routable IP
> addresses (e.g. 192.168.x.x)?  And if so, do you have postfix running as
> the MTA on more than one machine in the LAN?
> 
Yes.

> Have you been able to get postfix to send mail to different machines on
> the LAN (completely internal, no external DNS routing)?
> 
Yes.  I have 4 computers all sitting behind a cable modem.  One of the
computers is running woody and is the firewall/gateway/router and does
NAT for the other computers.  One of the computers behind the firewall
computer is a mail server using postfix.  I have all of my other
computers route mail through it to go to the internet (and they all
use postfix as the mta).  I am not a postfix expert, but this definitely
works.  Here is the important part for the mail server:

in main.cf, I added:
myhostname = smtp.fake.cxm
mydomain = fake.cxm
myorigin = /etc/mailname
# this is who we accept mail for
mydestination = $myhostname $mydomain localhost.$myhostname localhost.$mydomain
disable_dns_lookups = yes
# set to your ISP to send mail to the internet
relayhost = smtp-server.your-isp.com
# we do this instead of dns on our LAN
transport_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/transport

contents of /etc/postfix/transport:
# run 'postmap /etc/postfix/transport' and restart postfix to change
fake.cxmsmtp:
.fake.cxm   smtp:
smtp.fake.cxm   local:
localhost.fake.cxm  local:

Using the transport maps (along with disable_dns_lookups) allows all
this to work, even with a fake domain name and ip addresses.

You can also add to main.cf:
# run 'postmap /etc/postfix/sender-canonical' and restart postfix to change
sender_canonical_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/sender-canonical

If sending mail to the internet, the sender_canonical maps comes in
handy because you can rewrite addresses coming through this machine so
that they come from a valid email.  My isp requires this, so I just
have all mail rewritten so the From field is from my email address
through my isp.  Eg, /etc/postfix/sender-canonical:

@smtp.fake.cxm [EMAIL PROTECTED]
@workstation1.fake.cxm [EMAIL PROTECTED]
@localhost.fake.cxm [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Ok, the other computers on the network can have the following
'satellite' configuration:
myhostname = workstation1.fake.cxm
mydomain = fake.cxm
myorigin = /etc/mailname
relayhost = smtp.fake.cxm


Keep in mind, the parts I gave are just what I modified, everything
else is default.  I also run bind, so 'smtp.fake.cxm' actually
resolves to an ip on my network (eg 192.168.1.4).  You should be able
to accomplish the same with /etc/hosts.  Also note that this works
because anything that postfix doesn't know where to send on
workstation1, it just sends to its relayhost (smtp.fake.cxm).  It also
will receive mail for itself.  smtp.fake.cxm will get this mail, and
will either deliver to a local user if the destination is for
smtp.fake.cxm, send it on to another computer on the network if it is
destined for that computer (because of the transport map), or send it
to the its relayhost (the isp smtp server) if it doesn't know what to 
do with it.  Works very well for me.

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How can I get dselect's selection to match what's installed?

[Stan Brown]

OK, somehow I'v _reallY- got dselct's selection list munged up. It want's
to dlete 200+ packages!

How can I (short of spending hours ding it by hand), get dslect's "desired"
selection to match what's installed on the system?


-- 
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Charleston SC.
-- 
Windows 98: n.
useless extension to a minor patch release for 32-bit extensions and
a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an 8-bit operating system
originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written by a 2-bit 
company that can't stand for 1 bit of competition.
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Re: ping works not on all sites

[James D Strandboge]

On Fri, Oct 05, 2001 at 11:23:53AM +0200 or thereabouts, Timo Blazko Boewing 
wrote:
> I have a strange problem: I am using german DSL (T-DSL) and can reach
> almost all sites. However, some sites cannot really be contacted from my
> station. DNS resolve works, cos I get the IP from that site when pinging
> as well as the real hostname of a destination machine.
> 
I had the same problem until I realized it might be ecn related.  If
you are running kernel 2.4.x, then do:

cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_ecn

and see if it shows '1'.  If so, do:

echo 0 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_ecn

and see if it works.  Interestingly enough, one of the sites was
www.sun.com that couldn't handle ecn.

Jamie Strandboge

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