keeping checksums of every file installed
Hi! I´ll soon have to give out the root-pw of one of my boxes temporarily, but I´m a little paranoid... Does anybody know of some program/script that could make checksums of each&every file installed and keeping this list somewhere safe so that I can compare it when I take the password away from my colleague to make sure there´s no trojan or something installed? (The joke is that there´ll be a security audit and they want to have the root-pws for that...) TIA, &rw -- / Ing. Robert Waldner | Network Engineer | T: +43 1 89933 F: x533 \ \ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> |KPNQwest/AT | DSA key ID: C33A2BC0 /
Re: keeping checksums of every file installed
To quote Robert Waldner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, # # Hi! # # I´ll soon have to give out the root-pw of one of my boxes temporarily, # but I´m a little paranoid... # # Does anybody know of some program/script that could make checksums of # each&every file installed and keeping this list somewhere safe so that # I can compare it when I take the password away from my colleague to # make sure there´s no trojan or something installed? # # (The joke is that there´ll be a security audit and they want to have # the root-pws for that...) I think something along the lines of; find ./ -type f | xargs md5sum > outputfile.txt Would work. Later, do the same, and then 'diff -u outputfile.txt newoutputfile.txt', to see the differences. David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: keeping checksums of every file installed
On Thu, 15 Feb 2001 01:26:32 EST, "David B. Harris" writes: >To quote Robert Waldner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, ># Does anybody know of some program/script that could make checksums of ># each&every file installed and keeping this list somewhere safe so >that ># I can compare it when I take the password away from my colleague to ># make sure there´s no trojan or something installed? >I think something along the lines of; > >find ./ -type f | xargs md5sum > outputfile.txt > >Would work. Later, do the same, and then 'diff -u outputfile.txt >newoutputfile.txt', to see the differences. Ah, yes. That´s what I was looking for. Thanks! cheers, &rw -- / Ing. Robert Waldner | Network Engineer | T: +43 1 89933 F: x533 \ \ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> |KPNQwest/AT | DSA key ID: C33A2BC0 /
Re: keeping checksums of every file installed
On Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 07:12:08AM +0100, Robert Waldner wrote: > > Hi! > > I´ll soon have to give out the root-pw of one of my boxes temporarily, > but I´m a little paranoid... > > Does anybody know of some program/script that could make checksums of > each&every file installed and keeping this list somewhere safe so that > I can compare it when I take the password away from my colleague to > make sure there´s no trojan or something installed? > > (The joke is that there´ll be a security audit and they want to have > the root-pws for that...) > Check out "tripwire" there is a deb. kent -- From seeing and seeing the seeing has become so exhausted First line of "The Panther" - R. M. Rilke
isapnp.conf problems
I am trying to revive an old isa pnp modem/soundcard and when I use pnpdump to try and configure my modem (not the soundcard yet) I see this error at /var/log and during boot-up when my card is being detected. Board 1 has identity of FF FF FF FF 003 054 07 AZT300 serial no-1 [checksum of ] /etc/isapnp.conf:93- fatal-IO range check attempted while device activated /etc/isapnp.conf:93- fatal : error occured executing request '' --further action aborted I tried mucking around with the BIOS (i.e. turning on/off pnp os and resources controlled by auto/manual) to no avail. Any suggestions? TIA _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: kernel 2.4.1 and modules
On Wed, 14 Feb 2001, John Galt wrote: > Your modutils is out of date. Either get Testing's, or wait until Adrian > Bunk sets up the convience package for 2.4 kernels w/ potato. I've already set it up. Please read [1] for more information. cu, Adrian [1] http://www.fs.tum.de/~bunk/kernel-24.html -- Nicht weil die Dinge schwierig sind wagen wir sie nicht, sondern weil wir sie nicht wagen sind sie schwierig.
Re: keeping checksums of every file installed
On Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 07:12:08AM +0100, Robert Waldner wrote: > Does anybody know of some program/script that could make checksums of > each&every file installed and keeping this list somewhere safe so that > I can compare it when I take the password away from my colleague to > make sure there´s no trojan or something installed? Sure...it's called tripwire. Works like a charm. Be sure and grab the new(er) version, which alleviates the need to keep your database stored off the drive. Very cool. Encrypts all its checksums! -- Bob Bernstein at Esmond, R.I., USA
Can't connect two debian boxes via PLIP
I'm trying to connect my PII 350 with Debian 2.2r2 potato (kernel 2.2.17) with my PIII 800 with Debian woody (2.2.18 recompiled) using a "laplink" cable. I've followed PLIP-Howto steps, but even when I already tried two cables (which work under Windows, I know this doesn't prove anything, but..), I still can't make this to work. I stop in the ping step. My potato says plip0: transmit timeout(1,87) and my woody stays forever waiting for an answer. This are my settings: potato: plip0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr FC:FC:C0:A8:00:01 inet addre:192.168.0.1 P-t-P:192.168.0.2 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:10 Interrupt:7 Base address:0x378 route 192.168.0.2 * 255.255.255.255 UH 0 0 0 plip0 192.168.0.0 * 255.255.255.0 U0 0 0 plip0 woody: plip0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr FC:FC:C0:A8:00:02 inet addre:192.168.0.2 P-t-P:192.168.0.1 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:10 Interrupt:7 Base address:0x378 route 192.168.0.1 * 255.255.255.255 UH 0 0 0 plip0 192.168.0.0 * 255.255.255.0 U0 0 0 plip0 They're supposedly ok, but when I try to connect they don't communicate. ¿any suggestion? _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Dlink ethernet card
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > If I'm thinking of the correct card, it should be supported just fine > with the via-rhine driver. 2 friends of mine got this NIC. But on one computer we needed to change the base kernel in order to get this card working. I think there is 2 revision board for this card, 1 works fine with the 2.2.16 (if i remember well), the second one need a newer kernel (but i don't know which one, 2.4.0-test9 was newer enought for us ;-)). Tus
Pilot-link utilities???
Has anyone here used the Pilot-mail utility lately? I can't get it to recognize a port, each time I run it, it says "unable to bind to port -p" and "file does not exist". Well, perhaps I should qualify that, it did work, once, when I removed the "-p" from the parameters, but I haven't been able to repeat that since. To quote John Cleese, any help you could give would be very... helpful. Thanks!
RE: XFree86 4.0.2 and Matrox G400
Well 2.4.1 kernel does impress me, but the mga problem is still there. 32bpp just freeze my system. and I don't even have to XFree log for 32bpp.. just have 24bpp XFree log attached On Wed, 14 Feb 2001 11:05:01 Joris Lambrecht wrote: > I remember reading that kernel 2.4.1(01?) has improved handling of the > G400 > cards and fixes some (if not all ...) known issues, i'd suggest you'd > take a > look at this kernel. The 2.4.x kernels really impressed me, if the rest > of > linux development would have similar level of quality linux would > definetly > rule the desktop. > > -Original Message- > From: Chun Kit Edwin Lau [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 11:49 AM > To: Damon Muller > Cc: User Debian > Subject: Re: XFree86 4.0.2 and Matrox G400 > > > I am using 2.2.18 and have agp, via, dri compiled in the kernel, but > leaving mga as a module and i guess I have the same problem as you. X4.02 > crashes my machine at 16 and 32bpp. I guess it has to do will drm. When i > check the XF86 website, it seems to be that they suggested kernel 2.4.x > kernel. I haven't given it a shot yet. and i also said in the site that > disable the dri in the kernel for 2.4.x. (don't know about 2.2.18) > > Edwin Lau > > On Wed, 14 Feb 2001 01:56:31 Damon Muller wrote: > > Quoth Chun Kit Edwin Lau, > > > ok you have the dri working fine? well, for some unknown reason. in > the > > > XFree.0.log, it said direct rendering disable. don't know why? what > > option > > > did you include in the kernel? thanx > > > > What colour depth are you using? dri/drm only working in 16 and 32bpp. > > If you are using anything else, it will be disabled. This bit me > > originally as I was using 24bpp (which turned out to be a good thing, > as > > that particular original driver and X4.02 didn't like each other, so > > launching into dri/drm mode crashed the machine). > > > > Other than that, make sure you've got agpgart compiled in or as a > > module, along with the correct motherboard chipset support. > > > > cheers, > > > > damon > > > > -- > > Damon Muller | Did a large procession wave their torches > > Criminologist/Linux Geek | As my head fell in the basket, > > http://killfilter.com | And was everybody dancing on the casket... > > PGP (GnuPG): A136E829 | - TBMG, "Dead" > > > > Edwin Lau ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Edwin Lau ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) XFree86.0.log Description: Binary data
RE: Here you have, ;o)
_sigh_ you probably just wan't to hear me say it, YES i'm using Outlook as i type (company policy) Sincerly yours, Joris -- Still hoping for a more sensible WORLD and a FREE desktop. -Original Message- From: Robert Waldner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 6:55 PM To: Joris Lambrecht Subject: Re: Here you have, ;o) On Wed, 14 Feb 2001 09:24:23 +0100, Joris Lambrecht writes: >you mean like civilian disobedience ? no, I mean I don´t understand "to bad, company policy (yes i'm a someone)" in this context. cheers, &rw >-Original Message- >From: Robert Waldner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 6:37 PM >To: Joris Lambrecht >Subject: Re: Here you have, ;o) > > >On Tue, 13 Feb 2001 17:37:53 +0100, Joris Lambrecht writes: >>to bad, company policy (yes i'm a someone) > >? > >parse error. > >&rw >-- >/ Ing. Robert Waldner | Network Engineer | T: +43 1 89933 F: x533 \ >\ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> |KPNQwest/AT | DSA key ID: C33A2BC0 / > -- / Ing. Robert Waldner | Network Engineer | T: +43 1 89933 F: x533 \ \ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> |KPNQwest/AT | DSA key ID: C33A2BC0 /
Re: Win2k LDAP and Linux oh my!
ive seen a lot of reports that say active directory does NOT get along well with any other kind of directory service. its basically if you use it that is all you can use. i really feel sorry for anyone who is forced to use AD. currently at my company we are using Netscape directory server 3.1 on a solaris 7 machine to provide LDAP address books, and we authenticate our VPNs via RADIUS not ldap(IMO radius makes more sense for that kind of stuff anyway :) ). i have extreme doubts you can get AD and a normal LDAP server to synch with each other. iplanet products do not seem to work at all under debian so ..i'm not sure what to reccomend. good luck with the AD stuff ..i wouldn't be caught dead using it. nate Tom Warfield wrote: > > Alright bear with me on this one while I explain what i want to do: > Currently we have a Win2K domain (running Active Directory), also were > using the better things in life like Debian for our email and etc. In the > future were looking at installing a better firewall that has VPN support, > and according to the company selling us the firewall we can use LDAP to > authenticate users. > Right now as it goes I have to setup the user on the Win2K server, > then on > the email server. Then in the future im going to have to also add them to > the firewall. Remote sites which i will be controlling are going to be the > same way. Plus right now we do not have any email address lists since were > using outlook, well short of the users address book. So with that in mind > we wouldnt mind seeing the other important information for the person > besides there email address like there phone number and etc pull up in > Outlook. > Okay with all this in mind, im thinking LDAP is my answer to all of > these problems. I should be able to setup everyone in LDAP and then LDAP > will propogate all this information to the linux box, the firewall, the > WIN2K server and also let my users query for addresses and information like > that. Or maybe I would input the information into Win2K box and the LDAP > server would pass it around...none the less something has to be in place to > connect these several different devices on the network, soon to be networks! > > Any ideas would be appreciated. > > Thanks, > Tom > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ::: ICQ: 75132336 http://www.aphroland.org/ http://www.linuxpowered.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Here you have, ;o)
Osamu, Since i'm an outlook user i'd like to point out these 'patches', i'd refrain from using that word in this context, are the most BRUTE piece of programming i ever witnessed. Bill must have done it in some spare time, imagine i can't even exchange .exe files ! GREAT PATCH, actually it really isn't a patch, it's Absurd and idiocy to even WRITE such a great thing one can't even UNDO ! Sorry to get carried away again but i'd propose to bring in Amnesty International and start a trial against M$ for the worldwide aggrevation, and ongoing mental torture it has caused. -Original Message- From: Osamu Aoki [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 6:24 AM To: Joris Lambrecht Cc: 'D-Man'; debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Here you have, ;o) Hi folks, This ;o) virus does not affect current patched MS OUTLOOK. I did not understand why people on this list get upset about getting this lame VBS virus. This patch has been around since the days of LOVE virus from M$. If people are not concious about maintaining even their own MS system, they should not be running server platform like Linux which may be taken over by script kiddies. Just my thoughts... Osamu PS: Now I got this virus on my Linux, I can read it! Outlook just disable it completely, damm it. On Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 05:37:53PM +0100, Joris Lambrecht wrote: > to bad, company policy (yes i'm a someone) > > -Original Message- > From: D-Man [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 5:28 PM > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: Here you have, ;o) > > > On Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 11:46:43PM +0800, Shell Hung wrote: > | Joris Lambrecht wrote: > | > > | > Fortunatly this is a linux mailinglist ... > | > > | But I also think there're someone is using M$ platfrom when receiving > | this email, and maybe some of them using OutLook... :-) > > Mutt compiles and works very nicely with cygwin :-) > > -D > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- + Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, GnuPG-key: 1024D/D5DE453D + + Fingerprint: 814E BD64 3288 40E7 E88E 3D92 C3F8 EA94 D5DE 453D + + === http://www.aokiconsulting.com === Cupertino, CA USA === +
RE: SCSI adapter supported?
yep, www.debian.org (upgrade yr kernel to 2.4.x) -Original Message- From: Mike Egglestone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 9:07 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: SCSI adapter supported? Hi again... Doesn anyone know if potato can easily support this adapter? Adaptec AHA-29016N or is there a good place on the web to find out this kind of stuff? Thanks Mike -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FW: RE: SCSI adapter supported? (UU2465166)
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XFree86 4.0.2 - Very low resolution - how to increase?
Ok.. I've finally got XFree86 4.0.2 to the point where it will go into X :) Only problem - it shows stuff in 320x240 - and only half the screen.. Have attached my config file + log.. Any ideas? It says my card (actually on board S3) isn't supported but that SVGA driver should handle it.. I told the computer it had 1MB.. it's convinced it has 64K.. go figure.. Specs for monitor entered from documentation. XF86Config-4 Description: Binary data XFree86.0.log Description: Binary data
Remote Administration tool for Linux Network Park
VACM 2.0 (the project page is at sourceforge.net) http://www.valinux.com/software/vacm/
hosts, resolv setup?
Can someone explain to me how to set up /etc/hosts and /etc/resolv.conf for ssh (and similar programs) _not_ to search for my local network host names using the external nameservers in resolv.conf? The local network is built up with NICs. I'm not using bind on my debian host. It's installed on the gateway, but I dont think its configured correctly. (Is bind really needed? In case, how to configure bind correctly? Pointers?) /etc/hosts: 127.0.0.1 localhost 192.160.0.1 host1.my.own.domain host1 192.160.0.2 host2.my.own.domain host2 etc ... /etc/resolv.conf: search my.own.domain nameserver xxx.yyy.zzz.www # External name server 1 ... Anything else to set up? Eg. /etc/nsswitch.conf: hosts: files nisplus nis dns Thanks, Svante
newbie question concerning installation/boot up
Hi ! I'm new to debian linux an would really appreaciate some help for the following problem: I bought a running linux box (specialised router +mailserver) with debian linux on it and wanted to use another mainboard. So I switched to a different board reinstalled the HD an started the maschine again. The error i encounter is that linux has some problem with the SMBus and cannot start it properly. I know that it has to be modifyed to cope with the new mainboard, but how do i do that ? Any ideas on how to start to solve this problem ?? Thanks in advance ;-)
Re: sound ensoniq es1371
On 14 Feb 2001, Kent West wrote: > T. Green wrote: > > > HELP !newbie !! > > I am using creative ensoniq audiopci card model es1371. > > i am not getting any sound form it, nor am i getting any sound when i > > run realplayer > > can anyone tell me what i am doing worng, are what is needed. > > > > i am using debian 2.2.17 potato verison > > thank -you > > > > > > > > > > As root, do a "modprobe es1371". If that doesn't work, do an "lspci" and > an "lsmod" and post the results. Also the result of "dmesg" might be > interesting. > > Or don't use modules, at least to start with (as advised in the Sound HOWTO). If you compile the driver directly into the kernel you reduce the layers of possible error. Personally, I don't use modules at all. Anthony -- Anthony Campbell - running Linux Debian (Windows-free zone) For electronic books, skeptical essays, and over 100 book reviews, go to: http://www.cix.co.uk/~acampbell/ Clear your mind of cant, Sir! [Samuel Johnson]
Kernel-Source 2.4.1
Hi ! I just downloaded the above package and visited packages.debian.org for beeing sure I have all things the Kernel Package depends on. But everytime I try to make a build I get parse errors and I don't know why (I checked file permissions). Know I did exactly the same (also the same configuration in menuconfig) with the linux-2.4.1.tar.bz2 from ftp.kernel.org and till know it's working fine. So what's wrong? Anyone got an Idea? Is it a bug in the Kernel-Source Package Thx bOhA
Re: Installing 2nd bootable debian
On Wed, 14 Feb 2001, hanasaki wrote: > I have a HD with > > /boot > / => a complete install of debian > > I wish to install a second debian on another partion(s). - mount the "another partition" to /mnt - copy everything in / to /mnt (but exclude /mnt, of course) cp -avf /root /var/ /home .. .. .. /mnt - cd /mnt/etc - edit lilo.conf; add new entry to boot from "another partition" - install lilo - reboot the machine > How do i do this so that lilo.conf refects both debians? Wont the 2nd > install make its own /etc/lilo.conf and thus make a lilo boot prompt > only for the 2nd install? Lilo wouldn't reread /etc/lilo.conf every boots; it reads once, installs itself in the boot sector, and that's it. So I think the other lilo.conf in the second Debian install is a non-issue. I think it would be helpful if you could create a boot floppy, so that after you have the second install, you can try to boot via the floppy. Oki
newbie question concerning installation/boot up (update)
It's a IBM compatible Intel PC . Despite this error on bootup everything including filesystem works fine. I just cannot connect to the PC via network from another PC (telnet, http, ping) Can I keep my current ( small secure and specialized) kernel an just modify it to match the new mainboard ? If yes how? ;-) Hi ! I'm new to debian linux an would really appreaciate some help for the following problem: I bought a running linux box (specialised router +mailserver) with debian linux on it and wanted to use another mainboard. So I switched to a different board reinstalled the HD an started the maschine again. The error i encounter is that linux has some problem with the SMBus and cannot start it properly. I know that it has to be modifyed to cope with the new mainboard, but how do i do that ? Any ideas on how to start to solve this problem ?? Thanks in advance ;-)
Re: Which computer to buy ?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hello, Antonio! > > IMHO, you should buy Intel, since AMD chips don't do floating > point operations adequately (these are important in graphics), unless you This was true years ago but is certainly not true anymore. The AMD Duron and Thunderbird chips are at least as good as a PIII and very much better than the P4. The P4 is only worthwhile if you have applications that are specifically optimized for it and as far as I know no such applications exists for Linux. > only > plan using your computer for desktop application (e.g., StarOffice). In terms > of desktpo applications, there's no difference between high-end PIIIs and not- > so-fast PIII (say, 800 MHz). If you would like to use Linux desktop > appilcations (GNOME, KDE, etc.), consider buying 128 M RAM. Linux likes memory but 128M is ok for most things. Happy hacking, \Gandalf
Re: Kernel-Source 2.4.1
On Thu, 15 Feb 2001, Hanno Böttcher wrote: > Hi ! Hi Hanno, > I just downloaded the above package and visited packages.debian.org for > beeing sure I have all things the Kernel Package depends on. But everytime I > try to make a build I get parse errors and I don't know why (I checked file > permissions). > Know I did exactly the same (also the same configuration in menuconfig) with > the linux-2.4.1.tar.bz2 from ftp.kernel.org and till know it's working fine. > So what's wrong? Anyone got an Idea? Is it a bug in the Kernel-Source > Package could you please cut&paste the error messages you see? Without them it's really hard to guess what your problem is. > Thx > bOhA cu, Adrian -- Nicht weil die Dinge schwierig sind wagen wir sie nicht, sondern weil wir sie nicht wagen sind sie schwierig.
gui config tools
Is there a gui config tool to set network and stuff like that or is it required to edit config file. I want to set a default route and I don't know how to do that properly. I can add a line like "route add ..." in a init script but it's not really clean. Christophe -- Christophe Barbé Software Engineer Lineo High Availability Group 42-46, rue Médéric 92110 Clichy - France phone (33).1.41.40.02.12 fax (33).1.41.40.02.01 www.lineo.com
How to upgrade to a tested lib?
I have some apps I want to build that require newer libs than what I have installed from stable. How do I tell dselect/apt/dpkg to let me pick the newer SDL lib (for instance) out of tested, bring with it any dependent libs (which may also be in tested), but not make a change to newer packages across the board? Related question, if I did want to upgrade across the board to woody, how would I do that? Thanks! Robin
Re: How to upgrade to a tested lib?
On Thu, 15 Feb 2001, Robin Rowe wrote: > I have some apps I want to build that require newer libs than what I have > installed from stable. How do I tell dselect/apt/dpkg to let me pick the > newer SDL lib (for instance) out of tested, bring with it any dependent libs > (which may also be in tested), but not make a change to newer packages > across the board? Add the following to your /etc/apt/sources.list: deb-src ftp://ftp.xxx.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free (replace the "xxx" with the country code for your latest mirror, e.g. I use "de") then do an apt-get install libsdl1.1-dev > Related question, if I did want to upgrade across the board to woody, how > would I do that? apt-get -u dist-upgrade > Thanks! > > Robin cu, Adrian -- Nicht weil die Dinge schwierig sind wagen wir sie nicht, sondern weil wir sie nicht wagen sind sie schwierig.
Joys of X4 upgrade
Hello World, I've just run apt-get dist-upgrade and now more or less am running testing. The task presently ocupying me is configuring XF86 4 What I can do: run everything X 4 except the the actual xserver (which is the X 3.3.6 SVGA server. This works and runs my window manager enlightenment. run the X4 server xserver-xfree86 with TWM. most apps seem to run fine What I can't do: run the X 4 server with enlightenment. - it complains that Xlib: extension "SHAPE" missing on display ":0.0". and suggests I upgrade to a more recent version of X... this error also occurs when I try to run xf86cfg (from under X) though it is at least bright enough not to suggest an upgrade has anyone any ideas about this? Today people in droves hurry up past Heumoz to Villars on the road to the ski hills, so they can rush down them as fast as possible, so they can hurry up again in order to rush down again. In a way this is funny,... Francis A Schaeffer David Purton http://www.chariot.net.au/~dcpurton/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Win2k LDAP and Linux oh my!
On Thu, 15 Feb 2001, Nate Amsden wrote: > ive seen a lot of reports that say active directory does NOT get along > well > with any other kind of directory service. its basically if you use it > that > is all you can use. i really feel sorry for anyone who is forced to use > AD. > > currently at my company we are using Netscape directory server 3.1 on > a solaris 7 machine to provide LDAP address books, and we authenticate > our VPNs via RADIUS not ldap(IMO radius makes more sense for that > kind of stuff anyway :) ). i have extreme doubts you can get AD and > a normal LDAP server to synch with each other. > > iplanet products do not seem to work at all under debian so ..i'm > not sure what to reccomend. > > good luck with the AD stuff ..i wouldn't be caught dead using it. > > nate Hi, but in case of Tom, IMO there is no requirement to synchronize any directories. The firewall can authenticate users directly against AD via LDAP. So can do your mail server, e.g. qmail or postfix (SMTP), and cyrus (POP / IMAP). Florian
Re: Joys of X4 upgrade SOLVED
got it - needed to add Section "Modules" Load "extmod" EndSection Today people in droves hurry up past Heumoz to Villars on the road to the ski hills, so they can rush down them as fast as possible, so they can hurry up again in order to rush down again. In a way this is funny,... Francis A Schaeffer David Purton http://www.chariot.net.au/~dcpurton/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
help: daemon msg module binfmt is?
Hi, I just noticed after my last kernel compile I'm getting a daemon log message: modprobe: can't locate module binfmt-002a The last 4 digits change. Any idea what I missed or am missing? Thanks, Jonathan -- -==- ==-- _ ---==---(_)__ __ __ --==---/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / Jonathan Gift -=/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Running Debian GNU/linux
configure sendmail
Hello, I'd like to configure sendmail without things like FEATURE(use_cw_file)dnl FEATURE(use_ct_file)dnl and possibly someo others but those fscking scripts (sendmailconfig and those called by this one) seem always to put them in. Where can I find prototype (or a script???) which I could edit to wipe this off? -- Matus "fantomas" Uhlar, sysadmin at NEXTRA, Slovakia; IRCNET admin of *.sk [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; http://www.fantomas.sk/ ; http://www.nextra.sk/ "To Boot or not to Boot, that's the question." [WD1270 Caviar] --- Odchozí zpráva obsahuje viry. Zkontrolováno antivirovým systémem AVG (http://www.grisoft.cz). Verze: 6.0.230 / Virová báze: 111 - datum vydání: 25.1.2001
Burning CD-ROMs as user
Hi, I am currently able to burn CD-ROMs with gcombust (GUI for cdrecord) only as root. What's the proper Debian way to allow all users to do that -- changing the according device's owner status is certainly not a good idea, I suppose? Greeting and thanks in advance for your answers, joachim
DNS: not working correctly
Hello, I have set up a domain name server with BIND a couple of months ago. It worked almost correctly on every computer I had been on, however, some could not reach my domain. But, a couple of days ago, my server became unreachenable through the domain name. I guessed it might have missed an DNS update because the link was down during that period. But now, more than two days later, things still do not work. I examined it with nslookup: with q=ns, everything seems to work with q=a, it can not find the domain with q=any, everything seems ok How can I fix this? I included the bind files. I hope you can help. Thanks in advance, Sebastiaan. ; BIND data file for sacred-key.org $TTL86400 @ IN SOA ns.sacred-key.org. root.sacred-key.org. ( 2000120801 ; volgnummer 10800 ; Refresh 3600; Retry 360 ; Expire 86400 ) ; Default TTL IN NS ns.sacred-key.org. IN MX 10 mail.sacred-key.org. IN A 213.10.33.89 mailIN A 213.10.33.89 ns IN A 213.10.33.89 ftp IN CNAME mail.sacred-key.org. www IN NS www-dns www-dns IN A 202.67.129.130 ; Nameservers voor dit domein TXT "This is sacred-key.org!" localhost A 127.0.0.1 ; Alle computers in dit domein onixA 192.168.1.254 ancient A 192.168.1.2 peter A 192.168.1.1 conny A 192.168.1.3 ; BIND data file for sacred-key.org $TTL86400 @ IN SOA ns.sacred-key.org. root.sacred-key.org. ( 2000120701 ; volgnummer 10800 ; Refresh 3600; Retry 360 ; Expire 86400 ) ; Default TTL IN NS ns 89 IN PTR sacred-key.org. ; Nameservers voor dit domein TXT "This is sacred-key.org!"
Re: Burning CD-ROMs as user
Hi, you can add a group 'burners', set the device-group permission to rw, add the user to the group ( addgroup user burners) and make the device belong to the group burners. Then you have to check you can find cdrecord as a user. Greetz, Sebastiaan On 15 Feb 2001, Joachim Trinkwitz wrote: > Hi, > > I am currently able to burn CD-ROMs with gcombust (GUI for cdrecord) > only as root. What's the proper Debian way to allow all users to do > that -- changing the according device's owner status is certainly not > a good idea, I suppose? > > Greeting and thanks in advance for your answers, > joachim > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
keyboard setting
I use an Azerty keyboard but under the console it's configured as a qwerty one. Where should I configure my keyboard? Christophe -- Christophe Barbé Software Engineer Lineo High Availability Group 42-46, rue Médéric 92110 Clichy - France phone (33).1.41.40.02.12 fax (33).1.41.40.02.01 www.lineo.com
RE: Burning CD-ROMs as user
if it's a good idea to let all users use it, why not just change the execute permission to world permissions ? Also, i took a look at gcombust (yuck) and couldn't find a way to burn 12x cdrom's does anyone have any advice on this, i'm even thinking about commerial software right now, burning cd's seems (like browsers) rather rudimentary. -Original Message- From: Joachim Trinkwitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 12:51 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Burning CD-ROMs as user Hi, I am currently able to burn CD-ROMs with gcombust (GUI for cdrecord) only as root. What's the proper Debian way to allow all users to do that -- changing the according device's owner status is certainly not a good idea, I suppose? Greeting and thanks in advance for your answers, joachim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sound
Hi All! I have some problems to play gnome sounds for users, when two of them login using virtual consoles in the Linux Box. the latest one that connect can´t play sounds events but from the command line using esdplay. This way it works ok. The first one hear it all allright when closing for instance.¿ is there a way to have the audio channel shared?, though i´m not sure this is the reason for what it doesn´t sound. Best Regards --- Jose Fernando Carvajal Vión SOLUZIONA Software Factory Servicios Profesionales de Unión Fenosa C/ Pedro Teixeira, 8 - 28020 Madrid Teléfono: +34 91 555 33 61 Fax: +34 91 597 05 62 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.uf-isf.es ---
Re: DNS: not working correctly
On Thursday 15 February 2001 05:58, Sebastiaan wrote: > But, a couple of days ago, my server became unreachenable through the > domain name. I guessed it might have missed an DNS update because the > link was down during that period. But now, more than two days later, > things still do not work. > > I examined it with nslookup: > with q=ns, everything seems to work > with q=a, it can not find the domain > with q=any, everything seems ok [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ whois sacred-key.org [snip...] Domain Name: SACRED-KEY.ORG Registrar: DOMAINPEOPLE, INC. Whois Server: whois.domainpeople.com Referral URL: www.domainpeople.com Name Server: JON00793.SPEED.PLANET.NL Updated Date: 08-dec-2000 [snip...] Domain servers in listed order: jon00793.speed.planet.nl 213.10.33.89 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dig @jon00793.speed.planet.nl sacred-key.org ; <<>> DiG 8.3 <<>> @jon00793.speed.planet.nl sacred-key.org ; (1 server found) ;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch ;; res_nsend to server jon00793.speed.planet.nl 213.10.33.89: Connection refused [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ Is jon00793 your box? I would guess either named is not running on the box or something else is blocking connection to port 53. Is it behind a firewall? Have you changed ipchains rules or some such? -- Bud Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.sirinet.net/~budr/zamm.html All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either.
Digest
Hello I am subscribed to this list in digest mode. However I am not getting any digests for the past two weeks . Is there any problem with it Is anybody else having similar problem Sunil -- Sunil Thomas Thonikuzhiyil Powered By Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 Principal, College of Applied Sciences,Calicut,Kerala,India http://geocities.com/sunil_tt ~ ~
Re: DNS: not working correctly
On Thu, 15 Feb 2001, Bud Rogers wrote: > On Thursday 15 February 2001 05:58, Sebastiaan wrote: > > > But, a couple of days ago, my server became unreachenable through the > > domain name. I guessed it might have missed an DNS update because the > > link was down during that period. But now, more than two days later, > > things still do not work. > > > > I examined it with nslookup: > > with q=ns, everything seems to work > > with q=a, it can not find the domain > > with q=any, everything seems ok > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ whois sacred-key.org > > [snip...] > >Domain Name: SACRED-KEY.ORG >Registrar: DOMAINPEOPLE, INC. >Whois Server: whois.domainpeople.com >Referral URL: www.domainpeople.com >Name Server: JON00793.SPEED.PLANET.NL >Updated Date: 08-dec-2000 > > [snip...] > > Domain servers in listed order: > jon00793.speed.planet.nl 213.10.33.89 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dig @jon00793.speed.planet.nl sacred-key.org > > ; <<>> DiG 8.3 <<>> @jon00793.speed.planet.nl sacred-key.org > ; (1 server found) > ;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch > ;; res_nsend to server jon00793.speed.planet.nl 213.10.33.89: > Connection refused > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ > > Is jon00793 your box? I would guess either named is not running on the > box or something else is blocking connection to port 53. Is it behind > a firewall? Have you changed ipchains rules or some such? > Yeah, bind was not running anymore? How can this happen? I never expected that bind would crash. It just stopped working. Thanks! Sebastiaan > -- > Bud Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.sirinet.net/~budr/zamm.html > All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either. > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
Re: DNS: not working correctly
Ok, now that it is working, why does it not work everywhere? When I do: nslookup sacred-key.org ns1.tudelft.nl then it works nslookup sacred-key.org elektron.its.tudelft.nl then it says that the domain does not exist. I had this before, someone suggested that it had to do with my revision file. Thanks, Sebastiaan On Thu, 15 Feb 2001, Bud Rogers wrote: > On Thursday 15 February 2001 05:58, Sebastiaan wrote: > > > But, a couple of days ago, my server became unreachenable through the > > domain name. I guessed it might have missed an DNS update because the > > link was down during that period. But now, more than two days later, > > things still do not work. > > > > I examined it with nslookup: > > with q=ns, everything seems to work > > with q=a, it can not find the domain > > with q=any, everything seems ok > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ whois sacred-key.org > > [snip...] > >Domain Name: SACRED-KEY.ORG >Registrar: DOMAINPEOPLE, INC. >Whois Server: whois.domainpeople.com >Referral URL: www.domainpeople.com >Name Server: JON00793.SPEED.PLANET.NL >Updated Date: 08-dec-2000 > > [snip...] > > Domain servers in listed order: > jon00793.speed.planet.nl 213.10.33.89 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dig @jon00793.speed.planet.nl sacred-key.org > > ; <<>> DiG 8.3 <<>> @jon00793.speed.planet.nl sacred-key.org > ; (1 server found) > ;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch > ;; res_nsend to server jon00793.speed.planet.nl 213.10.33.89: > Connection refused > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ > > Is jon00793 your box? I would guess either named is not running on the > box or something else is blocking connection to port 53. Is it behind > a firewall? Have you changed ipchains rules or some such? > > -- > Bud Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.sirinet.net/~budr/zamm.html > All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either. > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
Re: DNS: not working correctly
On Thursday 15 February 2001 06:32, Sebastiaan wrote: > On Thu, 15 Feb 2001, Bud Rogers wrote: > > Is jon00793 your box? I would guess either named is not running on > > the box or something else is blocking connection to port 53. Is it > > behind a firewall? Have you changed ipchains rules or some such? > > Yeah, bind was not running anymore? How can this happen? I never > expected that bind would crash. It just stopped working. Are you running an older version of bind? There was a recent advisory, buffer overflow vulnerability IIRC. -- Bud Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.sirinet.net/~budr/zamm.html All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either.
Re: DNS: not working correctly
I have version 8.2.2-P7 of bind. Is woody's bind up to date enough? Thanks, Sebastiaan On Thu, 15 Feb 2001, Sebastiaan wrote: > Ok, now that it is working, why does it not work everywhere? > > When I do: > nslookup sacred-key.org ns1.tudelft.nlthen it works > nslookup sacred-key.org elektron.its.tudelft.nlthen it says that the > domain does not exist. > > I had this before, someone suggested that it had to do with my revision > file. > > Thanks, > Sebastiaan > > > On Thu, 15 Feb 2001, Bud Rogers wrote: > > > On Thursday 15 February 2001 05:58, Sebastiaan wrote: > > > > > But, a couple of days ago, my server became unreachenable through the > > > domain name. I guessed it might have missed an DNS update because the > > > link was down during that period. But now, more than two days later, > > > things still do not work. > > > > > > I examined it with nslookup: > > > with q=ns, everything seems to work > > > with q=a, it can not find the domain > > > with q=any, everything seems ok > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ whois sacred-key.org > > > > [snip...] > > > >Domain Name: SACRED-KEY.ORG > >Registrar: DOMAINPEOPLE, INC. > >Whois Server: whois.domainpeople.com > >Referral URL: www.domainpeople.com > >Name Server: JON00793.SPEED.PLANET.NL > >Updated Date: 08-dec-2000 > > > > [snip...] > > > > Domain servers in listed order: > > jon00793.speed.planet.nl 213.10.33.89 > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dig @jon00793.speed.planet.nl sacred-key.org > > > > ; <<>> DiG 8.3 <<>> @jon00793.speed.planet.nl sacred-key.org > > ; (1 server found) > > ;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch > > ;; res_nsend to server jon00793.speed.planet.nl 213.10.33.89: > > Connection refused > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ > > > > Is jon00793 your box? I would guess either named is not running on the > > box or something else is blocking connection to port 53. Is it behind > > a firewall? Have you changed ipchains rules or some such? > > > > -- > > Bud Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.sirinet.net/~budr/zamm.html > > All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either. > > > > > > -- > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
Re: DNS: not working correctly
On Thursday 15 February 2001 06:37, Sebastiaan wrote: > Ok, now that it is working, why does it not work everywhere? > > When I do: > nslookup sacred-key.org ns1.tudelft.nlthen it works > nslookup sacred-key.org elektron.its.tudelft.nlthen it says that > the domain does not exist. > > I had this before, someone suggested that it had to do with my > revision file. Oh boy, it's been a long time since I had to set up a nameserver. I'd have to read up on it again. I know the format of the zone files is very important, expecially the SOA section at the beginning. Read carefully that section of the documentation and look at your zone file carefully. -- Bud Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.sirinet.net/~budr/zamm.html All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either.
xdm takes ages to start after X upgrade
mmm - I knew one problem was hoping for too much. I think I remember a post about this before but I can't find it in the archives. Since upgrading to Woody and X 4 xdm takes a lng time to start (like a minute or so) Does anyone know how to fix this? Today people in droves hurry up past Heumoz to Villars on the road to the ski hills, so they can rush down them as fast as possible, so they can hurry up again in order to rush down again. In a way this is funny,... Francis A Schaeffer David Purton http://www.chariot.net.au/~dcpurton/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DocBook - db2pdf and db2ps problems
I'm a newcomer to Debian and Linux in general, and my current job is limited to prepare documentation using docbook on Debian. I do have some problems, and when I try to search information about docbook, I end up with RedHat specific advice. Are the following problems with db2pdf and db2ps due to my Debian installation, and does anyone know what to do about it: - Graphics, especially for PDF output: I have been adviced to use the PNG graphics format, but my version of the docbook tools (probably jadetex) does not know .png. OK, I can do without PNG, but worse is that I cannot find a way to include graphics in PDF files at all. PDF is also not known as a graphics format, and other formats don't work. - Font problem, Postscript and PDF: I needed to include the 'µ' (micron) letter in my text, and this makes db2pdf and db2ps (dvips to be more exact) ask for a font file called lbmr.pfb. It's not there, and while the letter will be left out in the PDF output, the Postscript file contains no text at all because of this. - BeginPage tag: The tag does not seem to work at all, it's supposed to induce a pageshift in printed output. I have seen no mention of these problems anywhere, so I wonder if it works for everybody else, or am i the only person to actually prepare documentation for printout using docbook on Debian? If somebody can commment on the state of docbook on Debian in general (not specific to my problems above), this will also be of interest. Regards -- Henning Hansen
lower res in X4 than X 3.3.6
another weird thing with my X upgrade is that using the X4 server I can't get the same res as when I was using X3.3.6. The modeline is the same, but X4 complains that the vertical timing is out of range. I've tried to fiddle with the timings, but seem only to be succesful in getting illegal vertical timings :) the modeline is as follows: Modeline "1280x1024" 110.00 1280 1328 1512 1624 1024 1027 1028 1046 \ -hsync -vsync Today people in droves hurry up past Heumoz to Villars on the road to the ski hills, so they can rush down them as fast as possible, so they can hurry up again in order to rush down again. In a way this is funny,... Francis A Schaeffer David Purton http://www.chariot.net.au/~dcpurton/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gui config tools
On Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 11:20:22AM +0100, christophe barbe wrote: > Is there a gui config tool to set network and stuff like that or is > it required to edit config file. I want to set a default route and > I don't know how to do that properly. I can add a line like "route > add ..." in a init script but it's not really clean. man interfaces -- Thomas Guettler Office: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> www.interface-business.de Private:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://yi.org/guettli
Access to the Audiodevice as user
Hi all! Sorry for asking again, I remember it was asked just a short time ago, but I deleted the messages allready. How can I configure access to the audio device for normal users (or e.g. one explicit user)? I allready added the user to the group "audio" and checked the permissions of /dev/audio but it doesn't work. I'm testing it with mp3blaster and it allways says "Can not open Audio Device". If I try as root it works, so the audio device itself is up. Thx in advance bOhA
Re: Kernel-Source 2.4.1
Are you using the kernel-source-2.4.1-2 package for the kernel source? If so it has several problems. I emailed the packager Herbert Xu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and he indicated they woould be fixed in kernel-source-2.4.1-3 cheers Richard Hanno Böttcher wrote: > Hi ! > > I just downloaded the above package and visited packages.debian.org for > beeing sure I have all things the Kernel Package depends on. But everytime I > try to make a build I get parse errors and I don't know why (I checked file > permissions). > Know I did exactly the same (also the same configuration in menuconfig) with > the linux-2.4.1.tar.bz2 from ftp.kernel.org and till know it's working fine. > So what's wrong? Anyone got an Idea? Is it a bug in the Kernel-Source > Package > > Thx > bOhA > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] begin:vcard n:Black;Richard tel;fax:416-971-4159 tel;home: tel;work:416-217-4350 x-mozilla-html:TRUE org:Algorithmics Inc adr:;;185 Spadina Avenue;Toronto;Ontario;M5T 2C6;Canada version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Financial Engineer x-mozilla-cpt:;-18400 fn:Richard Black end:vcard
Enlightenment menu
I've installed Potato 2.2r2,X, Gnome and Enlightenment window manager but I do not like the default pop-up menu of Enlightenment. I'd like to have the panel menu, the one sliding on the right or on the left as it is with enlightenment in other distribution like RedHat, Mandrake and the likes. Is that possible under Debian? If yes how can I set it up - messaggio inviato con Freemail by superEva http://www.supereva.it -
Re: Access to the Audiodevice as user
Hanno Böttcher wrote: > > Hi all! > > Sorry for asking again, I remember it was asked just a short time ago, but I > deleted the messages allready. > How can I configure access to the audio device for normal users (or e.g. one > explicit user)? I allready added the user to the group "audio" and checked > the permissions of /dev/audio but it doesn't work. I'm testing it with > mp3blaster and it allways says "Can not open Audio Device". If I try as root > it works, so the audio device itself is up. for oss also set /dev/dsp, for alsa you'd have to set permissions to other files... erik
Re: Access to the Audiodevice as user
On Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 01:55:58PM -, Hanno B?ttcher wrote: > Hi all! > > Sorry for asking again, I remember it was asked just a short time ago, but I > deleted the messages allready. > How can I configure access to the audio device for normal users (or e.g. one > explicit user)? I allready added the user to the group "audio" and checked > the permissions of /dev/audio but it doesn't work. I'm testing it with > mp3blaster and it allways says "Can not open Audio Device". If I try as root > it works, so the audio device itself is up. Once I added the user to group audio, I had to reboot for the changes to take effect. There's probably some service you could restart to avoid this, but I don't know what it is. -- Jeremiah
Re: Access to the Audiodevice as user
Yeah, you got it. After rebooting it works. But which service alternativly could be restarted I also couldn't find out. Thx anyway Hanno - Original Message - From: Jeremiah H. Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 1:12 PM Subject: Re: Access to the Audiodevice as user > On Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 01:55:58PM -, Hanno B?ttcher wrote: > > Hi all! > > > > Sorry for asking again, I remember it was asked just a short time ago, but I > > deleted the messages allready. > > How can I configure access to the audio device for normal users (or e.g. one > > explicit user)? I allready added the user to the group "audio" and checked > > the permissions of /dev/audio but it doesn't work. I'm testing it with > > mp3blaster and it allways says "Can not open Audio Device". If I try as root > > it works, so the audio device itself is up. > > Once I added the user to group audio, I had to reboot for the changes to > take effect. There's probably some service you could restart to avoid > this, but I don't know what it is. > > -- > Jeremiah > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
Re: Which computer to buy ?
Lars Knudsen wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Hello, Antonio! > > > > IMHO, you should buy Intel, since AMD chips don't do floating > > point operations adequately (these are important in graphics), unless you > > This was true years ago but is certainly not true anymore. > The AMD Duron and Thunderbird chips are at least as good as > a PIII and very much better than the P4. The P4 is only > worthwhile if you have applications that are specifically > optimized for it and as far as I know no such applications > exists for Linux. > A recent article in The COmputer Paper (you could find it in www.canadacomputes.com. I think) found the Athlon 1.2 whipped the P4 in virtually every test category. And it's less than half the price, especially when you add memory into the equation. -- Cam Ellison Ph.D. R.Psych. >From Roberts Creek on B.C.'s incomparable Sunshine Coast [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DNS: not working correctly
On Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 01:43:44PM +0100, Sebastiaan wrote: > I have version 8.2.2-P7 of bind. Is woody's bind up to date enough? This version of bind is vulnerable to root compromise, you should add: ## security updates deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security/ potato/updates main contrib deb http://security.debian.org/debian-non-US/ potato/non-US main contrib deb-src http://security.debian.org/debian-security/ potato/updates main contrib deb-src http://security.debian.org/debian-non-US/ potato/non-US main contrib to your /etc/apt/sources.list and run apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade immediatly. also if your name server has inexplicably crashed recently as you appear to have observed in an earlier message you should audit your system very carefully. the exploit for your version of bind causes named to crash but not before running /bin/sh for the attacker. if you run bind as root (NOT recommended) you end up with a root compromise. in short never ever run bind in the default debian configuration, always rewrite its initscript to run it as named.named (you need to add this user and group) and inside a chroot jail. i have a initscript patch which will take care of automatically updating the chroot jail and run named unprivileged in chroot, just mail me if your interested. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgpCfhVCqSboK.pgp Description: PGP signature
rsh and openssh
By default, rcp is linked (in /etc/alternatives) to scp which is (in my limited understanding) a secure version based on openssh. When I try to do a rcp with a computer without openssh I obtain "Secure connection to mypc refused" What can I do (on my computer) ? Is is possible to use rsh instead of ssh ? If yes, how (which packages) ? Christophe -- Christophe Barbé Software Engineer Lineo High Availability Group 42-46, rue Médéric 92110 Clichy - France phone (33).1.41.40.02.12 fax (33).1.41.40.02.01 www.lineo.com
Re: Access to the Audiodevice as user
Jeremiah H. Savage wrote: > > Once I added the user to group audio, I had to reboot for the changes to > take effect. There's probably some service you could restart to avoid > this, but I don't know what it is. > Just logout and re-login. The user will now be in the audio group. -- David Raeker-Jordan mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Harrisburg, PA, USA
[OT] Slashdot article
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Re: disk duplication question
Quoting Stuart Marshall ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > sfdisk to partition the new drive; > mke2fs to make file systems on the new drive; > mkswap to initialize the swap area on the new drive; > cd old-partition; find . -mount | cpio -pdm /new-partition ^ For what it's worth, I add "a" so I can still tell which files I haven't accessed for a long time. > But then to finish it seems I need to boot the new computer > (after installing the new drive) with a boot floppy and > run lilo by hand. > > Is there some way to also install the stuff that lilo does > on the new drive? The new machines will not usually have > a floppy so I would like to avoid that step. I won't get a chance to test this until I upgrade another disk, but you should be able to use the -r option to set the root partition appropriately for the new drive, and the -C option to specify a special configuration file. The latter means that you can write the /etc/lilo.conf on the new disk as it needs to be in the future system (like you do for /etc/fstab), containing the future boot= and root= lines, whereas you need to run lilo now on a file containing boot= and root= with the current device names. Cheers, -- Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: +44 1908 653 739 Fax: +44 1908 655 151 Snail: David Wright, Earth Science Dept., Milton Keynes, England, MK7 6AA Disclaimer: These addresses are only for reaching me, and do not signify official stationery. Views expressed here are either my own or plagiarised.
RES: networking partly broken after upgrade to testing
The network mask assigned to eth0, as reported [255.255.252.0] by ifconfig, seems to be incorrect. Never heard about classless subnets in Class B networks. You probably have a Class C (/24) network [255.255.255.0] or a classless subnet of a Class C network, like [255.255.255.252]. --- Alencar -Mensagem original- De: Peter S Galbraith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviada em: Segunda-feira, 12 de Fevereiro de 2001 18:07 Para: Debian Users Mailing List Cc: Peter S Galbraith Assunto: networking partly broken after upgrade to testing I have upgraded to testing and am now experiencing problems with networking (and I was expecting problems with XFree 4.0 and that part is fine :-) (...omissis...) The route and ifconfig look okay to me (but I'm not 100% sure): $ route Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface localnet* 255.255.252.0 U 0 00 eth0 default 142.130.48.10.0.0.0 UG1 00 eth0 $ ifconfig eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:E0:29:05:EA:C6 inet addr:142.130.48.235 Bcast:142.130.48.255 Mask:255.255.252.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:5982 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:626 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 Interrupt:11 Base address:0xdc00 loLink encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:3924 Metric:1 RX packets:1462 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:1462 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 Does anyone have a clue? Thanks, -- Peter Galbraith, research scientist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Maurice Lamontagne Institute, Department of Fisheries and Oceans Canada P.O. Box 1000, Mont-Joli Qc, G5H 3Z4 Canada. 418-775-0852 FAX: 775-0546 6623'rd GNU/Linux user at the Counter - http://counter.li.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
TDK CDRW setup
Hello, I have a TDK CDROM burner and am trying to get Storm-Linux to recognize. Can someone help me? Thanks Frank Rocco
what is char-maj-4 ?
Hi! Since I recompiled my kernel, I always get the message "Can't load module char-maj-4". But the question is, what is "char-maj-4"? Christian (Germany)
Re: problem with sound
Date sent: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 21:54:58 +0100 From: Philipp Schulte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject:Re: problem with sound Forwarded by: debian-user@lists.debian.org > > I didn't compile it as a module, because one told me it would be > > better to compile it direcect into the kernel. And so I did. > > Where does it say so? I have heard from many people that they were told > not to use modules. Ok, I will try to compile it as module, I just thought it would be better to have it permanent embeded into the kernel. > Please don't CC me, I am reading the list. > Phil Sorry, I'm used to send it to both list and respondant, because some people are not permanently reading the list. But if that's a problem to you I won't do that to you in future.
Re: problem with sound
Sorry, that my knowledge does have a big gap so far what linux matters. But I think you wasn't born with your momentary knowledge, too. So please try to treat somebody with a little bit of the respect he gives to you, even although he has to advance in his abilities. I always try to do so, too. Ok? What do you think? Christian Date sent: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 21:52:09 +0100 From: Philipp Schulte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject:Re: problem with sound Forwarded by: debian-user@lists.debian.org > On Wed, Feb 14, 2001 at 01:29:50PM +0100, Pascal THIVENT wrote: > > > Reboot your linux system and just check the boot message to see if the sound > > card is recognized > > What do you think logfiles are for? > BTW: http://learn.to/qoute > > Phil > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
RE: Emacs works differently within X and outside
> > > "Alan" == Alan Chandler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Alan> If I run emacs so that it creates an x-window to run in then > Alan> the behaviour is different. In this case DEL and BKSP both > Alan> work the same and delete the character to the left of the > Alan> cursor). > > Alan> Any ideas? > Well, I am not sure about emacs, but I do know for sure in > xemacs. There is a setting, which changes this behaviour. > > There is a setting called "Delete Key Deletes forward" which controls > this behaviour. There is also a little diddy called pc-mode that does this and a few other things. Look at /usr/share/emacs/20.7/lisp/emulations/pc-mode.el. Put (pc-bindings-mode) in your .emacs to use it (if you think you want the other stuff it does). This is for gnu emacs... jim > > thomasd > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED]www.deselaers.deICQ# on request > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
Re: isapnp.conf problems
john smith wrote: > I am trying to revive an old isa pnp modem/soundcard and when I use pnpdump > to try and configure my modem (not the soundcard yet) I see this error at > /var/log and during boot-up when my card is being detected. > > Board 1 has identity of > FF FF FF FF 003 054 07 AZT300 serial no-1 [checksum of ] > > /etc/isapnp.conf:93- fatal-IO range check attempted while device activated > /etc/isapnp.conf:93- fatal : error occured executing request '' > --further action aborted > > I tried mucking around with the BIOS (i.e. turning on/off pnp os and > resources controlled by auto/manual) to no avail. > > Any suggestions? > > TIA > _ I have seen several pnp modems with jumpers that enable you to defeat the pnp function , so perhaps you should try that route first. If that is not possible consult /usr/doc/HOWTO//Plug-and-Play-HOWTO, which covers the subject pretty well. Be sure to check your jumper settings for comports. Typical modem settings are COM2 or COM4(ttyS01 or ttyS03) and IRQ3. Wdoze 9x likes to see modems on COM2 so use that as your prefered setting. I've seen isa plug and play refered to often as "plug and pray"- so good luck. Bernie
Re: RES: networking partly broken after upgrade to testing
Quoting Luiz Carlos S. de Alencar ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > The network mask assigned to eth0, as reported [255.255.252.0] by ifconfig, > seems to be incorrect. Never heard about classless subnets in Class B > networks. You probably have a Class C (/24) network [255.255.255.0] or a > classless subnet of a Class C network, like [255.255.255.252]. I don't know what all this is about. Still, it woke me up. > The route and ifconfig look okay to me (but I'm not 100% sure): > > $ route > Kernel IP routing table > Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse > Iface > localnet* 255.255.252.0 U 0 00 eth0 > default 142.130.48.10.0.0.0 UG1 00 eth0 > > $ ifconfig > eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:E0:29:05:EA:C6 > inet addr:142.130.48.235 Bcast:142.130.48.255 Mask:255.255.252.0 ^^ That can't be right. You need the last two bits set, to correspond with the two bits unset in the mask, i.e. 142.130.51.255 Cheers, running on a 255.255.254.0 mask, -- Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: +44 1908 653 739 Fax: +44 1908 655 151 Snail: David Wright, Earth Science Dept., Milton Keynes, England, MK7 6AA Disclaimer: These addresses are only for reaching me, and do not signify official stationery. Views expressed here are either my own or plagiarised.
mutt broken in unstable
I get mutt: error while loading shared libraries: libiconv.so.2: cannot load shared object file: No such file of directory after an update/install this morning on my Laptop. Any idea where libiconv is or why I lost it? Thanks, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RES: RES: networking partly broken after upgrade to testing
Always learning. Thanks, David. -Mensagem original- De: David Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviada em: Quinta-feira, 15 de Fevereiro de 2001 11:55 Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; debian-user@lists.debian.org Assunto: Re: RES: networking partly broken after upgrade to testing Quoting Luiz Carlos S. de Alencar ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > The network mask assigned to eth0, as reported [255.255.252.0] by ifconfig, > seems to be incorrect. Never heard about classless subnets in Class B > networks. You probably have a Class C (/24) network [255.255.255.0] or a > classless subnet of a Class C network, like [255.255.255.252]. I don't know what all this is about. Still, it woke me up. > The route and ifconfig look okay to me (but I'm not 100% sure): > > $ route > Kernel IP routing table > Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse > Iface > localnet* 255.255.252.0 U 0 00 eth0 > default 142.130.48.10.0.0.0 UG1 00 eth0 > > $ ifconfig > eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:E0:29:05:EA:C6 > inet addr:142.130.48.235 Bcast:142.130.48.255 Mask:255.255.252.0 ^^ That can't be right. You need the last two bits set, to correspond with the two bits unset in the mask, i.e. 142.130.51.255 Cheers, running on a 255.255.254.0 mask, -- Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: +44 1908 653 739 Fax: +44 1908 655 151 Snail: David Wright, Earth Science Dept., Milton Keynes, England, MK7 6AA Disclaimer: These addresses are only for reaching me, and do not signify official stationery. Views expressed here are either my own or plagiarised.
Re: mutt broken in unstable
On Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 10:04:26AM -0500, The Doctor wrote: > I get > mutt: error while loading shared libraries: libiconv.so.2: cannot load shared > object file: No such file of directory > after an update/install this morning on my Laptop. > Any idea where libiconv is or why I lost it? Goto incoming.debian.org and dpkg -i the mutt in there. It seems the version uploaded yesterday was compiled with an extraneous library. -- Jeremiah
kernel 2.4.x and latin2 (iso8859-2) characters in console
Hi! I have just found out that latin2 (iso8859-2) characters are no longer displayed in console with kernel 2.4.1 :((( This is my setup: SCREEN_FONT=lat2u-16 APP_CHARSET_MAP=iso02 APP_CHARSET_MAP_vc2=user SCREEN_FONT_MAP=lat2u if [ "`env |grep TERM |grep -v COLOR |cut -c 6-`" = "linux" ]; then echo -n -e "\\033(K" fi This worked great with 2.2.x kernels, but 2.4.x displays weird charactes instead of latin2 letters... please can anyone help mw on this subject? THX in advance! Bostjan -- Boštjan Müller [NEONATUS], [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://neonatus.net/~neonatus For my PGP key finger: [EMAIL PROTECTED], RSA id: 0x90178DBD, ICQ #:7506644 Celular: +386(0)41243189, Powered by Debian GNU/LiNUX , Student of VFUL "Share your knowledge. It is a way to achieve immortality." (The Dalai Lama)
Re: sound ensoniq es1371
Anthony Campbell saw fit to inform me that: >On 14 Feb 2001, Kent West wrote: >> > >Or don't use modules, at least to start with (as advised in the Sound >HOWTO). If you compile the driver directly into the kernel you reduce >the layers of possible error. Personally, I don't use modules at all. > I am using es1371 module compiled with kernel 2.4 without any problems :-) Regards -- Rajesh Fowkar /**\ * WebSite:http://rajesh.computers.webjump.com Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Address:KURTARKAR NAGARI,BLDG-C,T4,3RD FLOOR,SHANTINAGAR,PONDA-GOA.(INDIA) * * "The expert at anything was once a beginner." -Hayes /**\
RE: Outta my tree!
sorry 'bout that, figured the option pack for win95 would contain some iis for win9x i still think pws is a bad choice for serveral reasons but i'm known to be stubborn, if i were you i'd check out apache or even ibm's adaptation of apache, asp will be a problem though (chiliasp does work nicely i'm told, costs though) my best guess, if you stick with pws, is to visit the activestate.com website and look for some installation documentation wich i'm sure is on it, even better the documentation is on your hard drive ... check out the html subdirectory in your perl subdirectory (maybe you allready did ?) did you allready try reinstalling Perl and installing the perl-isapi dll's ? good luck, Joris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 4:00 PM To: Joris Lambrecht Subject: Re: Outta my tree! Well that wasn't very helpful. I'm using PWS because IIS doesn't work in Windows 98 but PWS does. Since ActiveState advertises that it works with PWS then I figured it would be best to just install the port on my development box rather than install a brand new server or, worse yet, install a brand new operating system. I'm just trying to figure out how to use ActiveState perl, that's all. I'm not so interested in building a new workstation. - Original Message - From: "Joris Lambrecht" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 8:42 AM Subject: RE: Outta my tree! > you're using personal webserver ? why on earth ? if you can use apache or > even IIS wich is much better, stable > > www.apache.org or > http://www.microsoft.com/msdownload/ntoptionpack/dlwiz.asp for IIS > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 3:32 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Grant McLean; > activeperl@listserv.ActiveState.com > Subject: Re: Outta my tree! > > > Forgive me if I go on about this but I'm just stumped. > > If I get this error when I point to a directory/script that doesn't exist: > > "403.1 Forbidden: Execute Access Forbidden" > > such as when I point my browser to http://localhost/nowhere/noscipt.pl, this > means that pws is not even looking for the script, right? > > How then can I tell pws to take a look BEFORE it sends an error? > > TIA > Lane > - Original Message - > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Grant McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 7:58 AM > Subject: Re: Outta my tree! > > > > Yes. I'm using PWS and the default cgi-bin directory is /cgi-bin (which > is > > a virtual pointer to the same directory as the root directory). cgi-bin > is > > marked executable ... and yet I still get this error. > > > > Does anyone have ActivePerl sucessfully setup on PWS? The documentation > > said that it is similar to IIS 3.0 but I'm beginning to have doubts. > > - Original Message - > > From: "Grant McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: > > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 2:43 AM > > Subject: RE: Outta my tree! > > > > > > > > Now I get a more familiar error: > > > > > > > > "HTTP Error 403 > > > > 403.1 Forbidden: Execute Access Forbidden > > > > > > > > This error can be caused if you try to execute a CGI, ISAPI, or other > > > > executable program from a directory that does not allow programs to be > > > > executed." > > > > > > > > However, the directory that my script is in is marked > > > > Executable, as is the directory that perl.exe is in! > > > > > > This error message is saying that the web server is not configured > > > to execute programs in the directory. The issue is web server > > > configuration rather than filesystem permissions. Have you put your > > > script in the default cgi-bin directory? Try that first. > > > > > > Grant > > > ___ > > > ActivePerl mailing list > > > ActivePerl@listserv.ActiveState.com > > > http://listserv.ActiveState.com/mailman/listinfo/activeperl > > > > > > > ___ > > ActivePerl mailing list > > ActivePerl@listserv.ActiveState.com > > http://listserv.ActiveState.com/mailman/listinfo/activeperl > > > > ___ > ActivePerl mailing list > ActivePerl@listserv.ActiveState.com > http://listserv.ActiveState.com/mailman/listinfo/activeperl >
Re: TDK CDRW setup
>> I have a TDK CDROM burner and am trying to get >> Storm-Linux to recognize. Can someone help me? Linuxnewbie.org has a short article on setting up a CD-RW drive under Linux. It's rather RedHat specific, but the main parts can most likely apply to any distro. I know this topic comes up a lot... It mentions RedHat 6.0, Suse 6.1, Debian 2.1 and Storm 2000 and that *none* of them require a kernel recompile to get a CD-RW to work. They all have module support already available. http://linuxnewbie.org/nhf/intel/software/cdrecord_cdr.html Regards Hall
Re: lower res in X4 than X 3.3.6
Have you created a new config file XF86Config-4 should be its name if not I would suggest that you run through xf86config one time. I got *much* better modlines this way. -- Original Message -- From: David Purton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 23:20:01 +1030 (CST) > >another weird thing with my X upgrade > >is that using the X4 server I can't get the same res as when I was using >X3.3.6. > >The modeline is the same, but X4 complains that the vertical timing is >out of range. I've tried to fiddle with the timings, but seem only to >be succesful in getting illegal vertical timings :) > >the modeline is as follows: > >Modeline "1280x1024" 110.00 1280 1328 1512 1624 1024 1027 1028 1046 \ >-hsync -vsync > > > > >Today people in droves hurry up past Heumoz to Villars >on the road to the ski hills, so they can rush down them >as fast as possible, so they can hurry up again in order >to rush down again. In a way this is funny,... > > Francis A Schaeffer > >David Purton > >http://www.chariot.net.au/~dcpurton/ >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >-- >To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
dhcp server?
Just got a new laptop from work. I have to decide if I want to make the laptop work dhcp at the office and static at home or put a dhcp server up at home. Knowing Windows/Debian I figure putting up the dhcp server would be faster and easier. Anyone know a good dhcp server that's packaged and easy to configure. It's just one machine so a simple, fast one will work. Nomad_ :wq! --- Robert L. Harris| Micros~1 : Senior System Engineer |For when quality, reliability at RnD Consulting | and security just aren't \_ that important! DISCLAIMER: These are MY OPINIONS ALONE. I speak for no-one else. FYI: perl -e 'print $i=pack(c5,(41*2),sqrt(7056),(unpack(c,H)-2),oct(115),10);'
Re: what is char-maj-4 ?
On Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 03:41:50PM +0100, c-3 wrote: > Hi! > > Since I recompiled my kernel, I always get the message "Can't > load module char-maj-4". But the question is, what is "char-maj-4"? > Take a look at /etc/modules.conf - You will find the info there. At the top of the file you will also find instructions on how to get rid of "Can't load module..." errors. hth, kent -- From seeing and seeing the seeing has become so exhausted First line of "The Panther" - R. M. Rilke
Hardware question - motherboards
I have to upgrade and need comments on motherboards. The two I am considering most are the tyan tiger 133 (S1834) and the tyan tiger 100 (S1832). The s1834 is a little faster and uses the via apollo pro133a chipset. The s1832 uses the intel 440bx chipset. Any pros/cons welcome as well as comments on other dual cpu boards in the same class... tia jim
Re: dhcp server?
"Robert L. Harris" wrote: > > Just got a new laptop from work. I have to decide if I want to make the > laptop work dhcp at the office and static at home or put a dhcp server up > at home. Knowing Windows/Debian I figure putting up the dhcp server would > be faster and easier. > > Anyone know a good dhcp server that's packaged and easy to configure. It's > just one machine so a simple, fast one will work. just use dhcp-server and set /etc/dhcpd.conf something like: option domain-name "mydomain.com"; option domain-name-servers 192.168.50.3, 192.168.50.6; option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0; default-lease-time 1209600; max-lease-time 1209600; subnet 192.168.50.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 { range 192.168.50.100 192.168.50.140; option broadcast-address 192.168.50.255; option routers 192.168.50.201; option domain-name "mydomain.com"; option netbios-node-type 8; option netbios-name-servers 192.168.50.1, 192.168.50.2; } netbios-name-servers is the "WINS" servers if you have any, remove both netbios entries if you do not have WINS. the rest should be self explanitory. edit /etc/init.d/dhcp and change the setting that allows it to load. good luck. nate -- ::: ICQ: 75132336 http://www.aphroland.org/ http://www.linuxpowered.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Muddled explanation of classed vs. classless IPs (was Re: RES: networking partly broken after upgrade to testing)
> I don't know what all this is about. Still, it woke me up. I was just reading this in one of the TCP/IP books I have, so I'll take a stab at explaining it (and let somebody else explain the errors). IP addresses are divided into "host" portions and "network" portions. The host portion is assigned by whoever doles out blocks of IP addresses, and is fixed once you get it. The network portion is what you get to play around with after you are assigned your block of IP addresses. The host portion always comes first. Somebody might assigned you the block of IP addresses 45.67.0.1 - 45.67.255.255. The host portion is "45.67", whereas the network potion is ".0.1 - .255.255". In the olden days, networks were divided into classes: A, B, and C. Class A networks had an 8-bit host value, and a 24-bit network value. So a class A network would appear as 45.xxx.xxx.xxx. On that network, you could assign any machine an IP address from 45.0.0.1 - 45.255.255.255. Class B networks had a 16-bit host and a 16-bit network value, such as 45.67.xxx.xxx (in the example in the last paragraph). Class C networks had a 24-bit host and an 8-bit network value (45.67.112.xxx). However, this addressing scheme had its limitations. You might not need the 65,536 IP addresses provided by a class B network, but more than the 256 addresses provided by a class C network. In the old days, you'd suck it up, take the class B network, and the unused addresses would go to waste. However, as the Internet grew, IP addresses started becoming a scarce commodity. So what happened was the assignment of IP addresses went from fixed classes to classless to prevent that type of waste. In classless assignment, IP addresses take the form of xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/YY. The "/YY portion" tells you how many bits to use as the host portion, and how many to use as the network portion. Converting from the old scheme, a class B address of 45.67.xxx.xxx would now become 45.67.xxx.xxx/16. Class C addresses would become 45.67.112.xxx/24. The power that this provides is demonstrated when you need, say, 32,000 addresses. Obviously, this is more than an old class C address could provide, but if you picked up a class B address you'd be wasting another 32,000+ addresses. So what you do is you take a class B address and move one bit from the network portion to the host portion (e.g., 45.67.xxx.xxx/17 rather than 45.67.xxx.xxx/16). What this does is chops up the 45.67.xxx.xxx range into two separate networks, the first going from 45.67.0.1 to 45.67.127.255, and the second going from 45.67.128.1 to 45.67.255.255. Rather than get 32,000+ IP addresses that would go unassigned, you can get 32,768 addresses - and let somebody else get the other 32,768 addresses who could actually use them. Instead of throwing away 32k+ addresses, you only let a few hundred go unassigned. A netmask address is an alternate way of expressing the "/YY" for an IP address. The netmask is simply the "/YY" portion converted into IP address notation. For instance, /16 would become 255.255.0.0. /17 would be 255.255.127.0. Using the netmask, you can figure out how a network is partitioned much easier than you can be simply looking at "/17". So that's the quite and dirty run-down. I'm sure somebody will step in with corrections about math or terminology, but I think you can get the gist of it from the explanation above.
ppp-2.4.0 routing problem in testing: tap0 issue?
Hi. When I upgraded to testing, I got ppp-2.4.0along with it. Once this version of ppp was installed, the routing no longer worked properly. In particular, with ppp-2.4.0 I get the following behavior: - [... not connected to anything ...] dkatz [~] $ /sbin/ifconfig loLink encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:3924 Metric:1 RX packets:13 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:13 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 tap0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr FE:FD:00:00:00:00 inet addr:192.168.0.1 Bcast:0.0.0.0 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:15 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 Interrupt:5 dkatz [~] $ /sbin/route Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface 192.168.0.2 * 255.255.255.255 UH1 00 tap0 192.168.0.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 00 tap0 default * 0.0.0.0 U 1 00 tap0 [... do a 'pon' here ...] dkatz [~] $ /sbin/ifconfig loLink encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:3924 Metric:1 RX packets:13 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:13 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 ppp0 Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol inet addr:208.192.101.188 P-t-P:199.172.62.219 Mask:255.255.255.255 UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST MTU:1514 Metric:1 RX packets:10 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:11 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:10 tap0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr FE:FD:00:00:00:00 inet addr:192.168.0.1 Bcast:0.0.0.0 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:21 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 Interrupt:5 dkatz [~] $ /sbin/route Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface 199.172.62.219 * 255.255.255.255 UH0 00 ppp0 192.168.0.2 * 255.255.255.255 UH1 00 tap0 192.168.0.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 00 tap0 default * 0.0.0.0 U 1 00 tap0 - Note that (1) there is an interface 'tap0' which I don't understand at all since I don't have an ethernet card in my machine and have never set one up, and (2) that I can make a connection and get a working ppp0 interface, but that the default route is not set properly. Considering that it is using tap0 as the default interface, I suspect that these are related. For comparison, here is the same sequence using ppp-2.3.11 from potato: - [... not connected to anything ...] lysistrata:/etc# route Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface lysistrata:/etc# ifconfoig loLink encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:3924 Metric:1 RX packets:64 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:64 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 lysistrata:/etc# pon lysistrata:/etc# route Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface fxtc1-c.std.com * 255.255.255.255 UH0 00 ppp0 default fxtc1-c.std.com 0.0.0.0 UG0 00 ppp0 lysistrata:/etc# ifconfig loLink encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:3924 Metric:1 RX packets:90 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:90 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 ppp0 Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol inet addr:208.192.101.1 P-t-P:199.172.62.218 Mask:255.255.255.255 UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST MTU:1514 Metric:1 RX packets:19 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:23 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:10 - This version has no 'tap0' interface and correctly sets up the default gateway when the ppp0 interface is br
Re: Emacs works differently within X and outside
"Alan" == Alan Chandler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If I run emacs so that it creates an x-window to run in then > the behaviour is different. In this case DEL and BKSP both > work the same and delete the character to the left of the > cursor). > > Any ideas? I have the following in my .emacs file: ; To try to get BS/DEL right in emacs in x and in gnus (global-set-key [delete] 'delete-char ) (global-set-key [backspace] 'delete-backward-char ) Bob -- _ |_) _ |_ Robert D. Hilliard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> |_) (_) |_) 1294 S.W. Seagull Way <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Palm City, FL USA GPG Key ID: 390D6559 PGP Key ID: A8E40EB9
Re: Value too large for defined data type?
"Jonathan D. Proulx" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, Feb 14, 2001 at 07:20:17PM -0600, William Jensen wrote: > > :rm: cannot remove `/tmp/save.tar': Value too large for defined data type > : > :I was storing the save.tar in /tmp. I'm running stable version with kernel > :2.4.0. I have tried as root also to remove this file. How can I get rid > :of this bugger? > > Try `cat /dev/null > /tmp/save.tar` worked for similar problems on > different OS... If you get the error message: bash: /tmp/save.tar : cannot overwrite existing file which means the -C (noclobber) option is set, you can use: `cat /dev/null >| /tmp/save.tar` to override noclobber. Bob -- _ |_) _ |_ Robert D. Hilliard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> |_) (_) |_) 1294 S.W. Seagull Way <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Palm City, FL USA GPG Key ID: 390D6559 PGP Key ID: A8E40EB9
Re: dhcp server?
Perfect answer. Thank you. Robert Thus spake Nate Amsden ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > "Robert L. Harris" wrote: > > > > Just got a new laptop from work. I have to decide if I want to make the > > laptop work dhcp at the office and static at home or put a dhcp server up > > at home. Knowing Windows/Debian I figure putting up the dhcp server would > > be faster and easier. > > > > Anyone know a good dhcp server that's packaged and easy to configure. It's > > just one machine so a simple, fast one will work. > > just use dhcp-server and set /etc/dhcpd.conf something like: > > option domain-name "mydomain.com"; > option domain-name-servers 192.168.50.3, 192.168.50.6; > > option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0; > default-lease-time 1209600; > max-lease-time 1209600; > > subnet 192.168.50.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 { > range 192.168.50.100 192.168.50.140; > option broadcast-address 192.168.50.255; > option routers 192.168.50.201; > option domain-name "mydomain.com"; > option netbios-node-type 8; > option netbios-name-servers 192.168.50.1, 192.168.50.2; > } > > netbios-name-servers is the "WINS" servers if you have any, remove both > netbios entries if you do not have WINS. the rest should be self > explanitory. > edit /etc/init.d/dhcp and change the setting that allows it to load. > > good luck. > > nate > > -- > ::: > ICQ: 75132336 > http://www.aphroland.org/ > http://www.linuxpowered.net/ > [EMAIL PROTECTED] :wq! --- Robert L. Harris| Micros~1 : Senior System Engineer |For when quality, reliability at RnD Consulting | and security just aren't \_ that important! DISCLAIMER: These are MY OPINIONS ALONE. I speak for no-one else. FYI: perl -e 'print $i=pack(c5,(41*2),sqrt(7056),(unpack(c,H)-2),oct(115),10);'
Re: configure sendmail
Matus \"fantomas\" Uhlar wrote: > > Hello, > > I'd like to configure sendmail without things like > FEATURE(use_cw_file)dnl > FEATURE(use_ct_file)dnl > > and possibly someo others after sendmailconfig is done, remove those lines from sendmail.mc, run sendmailconfig again, when it prompts to regenerate(The first question) say YES. it will build the stuff accoridng to your sendmail.mc ..it works great for me since i have to add stuff to use cyrus for delivery. nate -- ::: ICQ: 75132336 http://www.aphroland.org/ http://www.linuxpowered.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
libc6 upgrade problem
I recently updated through dselect, and the process hangs when it tries to upgrade libc6. I am using testing. Here is what I get: Preparing to replace libc6 2.2.1-1 (using libc6_2.2.1-3_i386.deb) ... Unpacking replacement libc6 . It will hang there for at least an hour (yes, I let it run for that long). The hard drive, cpu, and memory are not being accessed, so I don't think the process is doing anything at all. I actually have two questions here. First... What is the next logical step? Should I try to find 2.2.1-2 and upgrade to that first? Second... how do I kill the process? I tried Ctrl-c and that didn't work. I tried Ctrl-z and that didn't work. Then I tried firing up another xterm and killing the process with "kill -9 [PID]" and that didn't kill it. The only thing I could do to kill it was change to runlevel 1 and then back to 2. Any suggestions? Thanks, Brian -- Brian J. Stults Doctoral Candidate Department of Sociology University at Albany - SUNY Phone: (518) 442-4652 Fax: (518) 442-4936 Web: http://www.albany.edu/~bs7452
Re: Burning CD-ROMs as user
look into XCDROAST. the new version(not packaged in stable) can do all of this and burn at 12x no problem. look for it at freshmeat.net. it also has instructions for how to set it up to run as non root with a special group. works real well. nate Joris Lambrecht wrote: > > if it's a good idea to let all users use it, why not just change the execute > permission to world permissions ? > > Also, i took a look at gcombust (yuck) and couldn't find a way to burn 12x > cdrom's does anyone have any advice on this, i'm even thinking about > commerial software right now, burning cd's seems (like browsers) rather > rudimentary. > > -Original Message- > From: Joachim Trinkwitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 12:51 PM > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Burning CD-ROMs as user > > Hi, > > I am currently able to burn CD-ROMs with gcombust (GUI for cdrecord) > only as root. What's the proper Debian way to allow all users to do > that -- changing the according device's owner status is certainly not > a good idea, I suppose? > > Greeting and thanks in advance for your answers, > joachim > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ::: ICQ: 75132336 http://www.aphroland.org/ http://www.linuxpowered.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: configure sendmail
-> > I'd like to configure sendmail without things like -> > FEATURE(use_cw_file)dnl -> > FEATURE(use_ct_file)dnl -> > -> > and possibly someo others -> -> after sendmailconfig is done, remove those lines from sendmail.mc, run -> sendmailconfig -> again, when it prompts to regenerate(The first question) say YES. it -> will build -> the stuff accoridng to your sendmail.mc ..it works great for me since i -> have to -> add stuff to use cyrus for delivery. Oh yes of course i know this way :) but I just don't like it. any program shouldn't force me to use those options. There should be some defaults and if I change them, they should remain so... -- Matus "fantomas" Uhlar, sysadmin at NEXTRA, Slovakia; IRCNET admin of *.sk [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; http://www.fantomas.sk/ ; http://www.nextra.sk/ REALITY.SYS corrupted. Press any key to reboot Universe. --- Odchozí zpráva obsahuje viry. Zkontrolováno antivirovým systémem AVG (http://www.grisoft.cz). Verze: 6.0.230 / Virová báze: 111 - datum vydání: 25.1.2001
RE: Hardware question - motherboards
Greetings, I have the 1832, and I haven't had any problems with it, but then again, I only have one CPU installed. I chose this particular board because V A Linux is/was using this board in their dual processor systems, see http://www.valinux.com/products/mpts.html for the details. The 1832 won't handle the faster processors, but you can probably pick one up rather inexpensively on ebay. HTH, Brooks > -Original Message- > From: Lewis, James M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 9:43 AM > To: debian-user (E-mail) > Subject: Hardware question - motherboards > > > > I have to upgrade and need comments on motherboards. The two I am > considering > most are the tyan tiger 133 (S1834) and the tyan tiger 100 (S1832). The > s1834 > is a little faster and uses the via apollo pro133a chipset. The > s1832 uses > the intel 440bx chipset. > > Any pros/cons welcome as well as comments on other dual cpu boards in the > same > class... > > tia > jim > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
RE: Burning CD-ROMs as user
thanks a lot dude -Original Message- From: Nate Amsden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 4:55 PM To: Joris Lambrecht Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Burning CD-ROMs as user look into XCDROAST. the new version(not packaged in stable) can do all of this and burn at 12x no problem. look for it at freshmeat.net. it also has instructions for how to set it up to run as non root with a special group. works real well. nate Joris Lambrecht wrote: > > if it's a good idea to let all users use it, why not just change the execute > permission to world permissions ? > > Also, i took a look at gcombust (yuck) and couldn't find a way to burn 12x > cdrom's does anyone have any advice on this, i'm even thinking about > commerial software right now, burning cd's seems (like browsers) rather > rudimentary. > > -Original Message- > From: Joachim Trinkwitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 12:51 PM > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Burning CD-ROMs as user > > Hi, > > I am currently able to burn CD-ROMs with gcombust (GUI for cdrecord) > only as root. What's the proper Debian way to allow all users to do > that -- changing the according device's owner status is certainly not > a good idea, I suppose? > > Greeting and thanks in advance for your answers, > joachim > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ::: ICQ: 75132336 http://www.aphroland.org/ http://www.linuxpowered.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Access to the Audiodevice as user
On Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 05:12:39AM -0800, Jeremiah H. Savage wrote: [snip] > Once I added the user to group audio, I had to reboot for the changes to > take effect. There's probably some service you could restart to avoid > this, but I don't know what it is. you simply need to log back in, scince the group data is inherited from the login mechanism (ie: xdm, whatever) -- Ceri Storey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://pkl.net/~cez/
Slow DNS lookup
I have Bind 8 setup on a linux box acting as the nameserver for my web-site and ip-masq for a few windows clients. I can access everything from the windows boxes, but dns lookup for the local web-site is really really slow, but lookup for all other 'external' web-sites are fine. Any suggestions on this one? Leonard Leblanc
Re: kernel 2.4.x and latin2 (iso8859-2) characters in console
On Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 04:12:19PM +0100, Bostjan Muller wrote: > Hi! > > I have just found out that latin2 (iso8859-2) characters are no longer > displayed in console with kernel 2.4.1 :((( > This is my setup: > > SCREEN_FONT=lat2u-16 > APP_CHARSET_MAP=iso02 > APP_CHARSET_MAP_vc2=user > SCREEN_FONT_MAP=lat2u > > Hi, I use: SCREEN_FONT_MAP=fonty.fallback SCREEN_FONT=iso2-16 APP_CHARSET_MAP=iso02 FALLBACK_TAB=fonty SCREEN_FONT_vc8=iso2-16 without ESC sequence in profile Mirek
debian command list
Hi all... I'm looking for a web site that would have a nice list and basic description of debian commands. Anyone know of such a place? or even just linux commands for that matter... Thanks Mike
Re: sound ensoniq es1371
On 15 Feb 2001, Rajesh Fowkar wrote: > Anthony Campbell saw fit to inform me that: > >On 14 Feb 2001, Kent West wrote: > >> > > > >Or don't use modules, at least to start with (as advised in the Sound > >HOWTO). If you compile the driver directly into the kernel you reduce > >the layers of possible error. Personally, I don't use modules at all. > > > > I am using es1371 module compiled with kernel 2.4 without any problems :-) > > Regards > > > I used them too, as an experiment, and there were no problems. But Kent West was getting problems, which was why I suggested compiling the driver into the kernel, at least to start with. Anthony -- Anthony Campbell - running GNU/Debian Linux (Windows-free zone) For electronic books, skeptical essays, and over 120 book reviews, go to: http://www.cix.co.uk/~acampbell/ But hope not life from grief or danger free Nor think the doom of man reversed for thee. [Samuel Johnson]
Re: Muddled explanation of classed vs. classless IPs
Quoting Colin Cashman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > I don't know what all this is about. Still, it woke me up. You've made me feel guilty. I would have expressed myself better if I'd known you were going to this trouble. > I was just reading this in one of the TCP/IP books I have, so I'll > take a stab at explaining it (and let somebody else explain the > errors). > The host portion always comes first. Somebody might assigned you the > block of IP addresses 45.67.0.1 - ^ You'd need 0 as well (i.e. the network address). > Class B networks had a 16-bit host and a 16-bit network value, such > as 45.67.xxx.xxx (in the example in ^^ This would be higher (128--191). > Class C networks had a 24-bit host and an 8-bit network value > (45.67.112.xxx). ^^ And higher still (192--224). I was surprised, when I was browsing in a bookshop recently, that New Riders' "Planning for Windows 2000" seemed to know no more than this. Nothing about classless IP. Thanks, -- Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: +44 1908 653 739 Fax: +44 1908 655 151 Snail: David Wright, Earth Science Dept., Milton Keynes, England, MK7 6AA Disclaimer: These addresses are only for reaching me, and do not signify official stationery. Views expressed here are either my own or plagiarised.