Re: Building a KDE1 application

[Bill Jonas]

On Sat, Dec 16, 2000 at 10:26:33PM +0100, Patrick Schnorbus wrote:
> But it seems to me that there isn´t any package for kde1. Can you help me?

Well, there used to be some available with the following sources.list line:

deb http://kde.tdyc.com/ potato kde contrib

For reasons I won't get into now, KDE wasn't included in the distribution
until recently, and one of the KDE developers (who is also a Debian
developer/maintainer) maintained unofficial Debian packages for KDE at the
above location.  (While KDE2 was in beta, you could get .debs for it by
using "kde2" in the above line.)  Recently, though, I've gotten "Failure to
download" messages on the KDE repositories.  I don't know if that's due to
KDE2 being released (and the KDE1 .debs going away, i haven't checked the
above to see if there are *any* .deb repositories left there), or due to
the fact that that repository is superfluous since KDE2 is in woody, or
both, or neither.  If it helps, though, I have the following KDE1 packages
still in apt's cache:

$ ls /var/cache/apt/archives/kd*
/var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase_4%3a1.1.2-2425-1.0_i386.deb
/var/cache/apt/archives/kdegames_4%3a1.1.2-2425-1.0_i386.deb
/var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs2g-dev_4%3a1.1.2-2425-1.0_i386.deb
/var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs2g_4%3a1.1.2-2425-1.0_i386.deb
/var/cache/apt/archives/kdenetwork-dev_4%3a1.1.2-2425-1.0_i386.deb
/var/cache/apt/archives/kdenetwork_4%3a1.1.2-2425-1.0_i386.deb
/var/cache/apt/archives/kdesupport0g-dev_4%3a1.1.2-2820-1.0_i386.deb
/var/cache/apt/archives/kdesupport0g_4%3a1.1.2-2820-1.0_i386.deb
/var/cache/apt/archives/kdm_4%3a1.1.2-2425-1.0_i386.deb

If you'd like them, I can put them up on my site for you to download
(though you will have to download them and run "dpkg -i" on the files).
Let me know and I'd be happy to do that.

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Re: New woody upgrade problems

[Bill Jonas]

On Sat, Dec 16, 2000 at 11:42:25PM -0500, Casey Henderson wrote:
> Anybody got any ideas on how to sort this out?

I've run into that several times myself doing daily dist-upgrades on my
work laptop.  (Yes, unstable is bad on a production machine, but I need X4
for the LCD screen, and the potato X4 packages weren't available at the
time.)  When apt dies like that, I copy and paste the file it was
complaining about into a command line like the following:

$ sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/xlibs_4.0.1-12_i386.deb

Then run apt-get -f install, and continue with the apt-get dist-upgrade.
It's worked well so far for me.  :)

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Re: xdm takes so long to start [was Re: New X Server crashes]

[kmself]

on Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 09:38:05AM -0800, Erik Steffl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Joey Hess wrote:
> > 
> > Shao Zhang wrote:
> > > xdm on my machine(laptop) takes about 50 seconds to start.
> > 
> > > If no one knows why, then I am going to fire up a bug report against it.
> > 
> > I've already tracked down this bug and filed a report, so please don't
> > bother.
> 
>   any news on this? xdm still takes a LONG time (one minute?) until it
> start X server (the login window)

How long does raw X take to start?  Just "/usr/X11R6/bin/X".

What happens when you launch xdm from the command line?  Any error
messages or output?

How about "strace xdm"?  Is there a point at which the system output
halts or appears to be stuck in a loop?


My suspicion is, interestingly enough, network resolution.  X is a
*networked* windowing system, which means your localhost network
configuration must be properly set up.  A co-worker had a situation
where he could start X at the office (connected to the LAN via DHCP),
but not at home (standalone).  Problem was a misconfigured /etc/hosts
file.

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Re: Unidentified subject!

[kmself]

on Sat, Dec 16, 2000 at 01:07:36PM +0100, Andre Berger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
> "Arthur Denisov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > The author of this letter the student, citizen of Russia. I am 
> > addressed(paid) to you as to the kind, sympathetic man and I hope, that you 
> > can help the student requiring in money to training and habitation. Very 
> > much I ask to send me on the bank account
> [blabla]
> 
> They've even run out of line breaks in Russia...

Quick!! Let's organize a group to provide line breaks for Russia!!
Everyone send in your linefeeds, carriage returns, vertical tabs, and
\015s!!

linbreaksforrussia.org *is* still available!!

Next activity:  sanityforkarsten.org

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Re: exim configuration

[Jesse Goerz]

On Saturday 16 December 2000 17:57, Phil Brutsche wrote:
> Sample config: http://tux.creighton.edu/~pbrutsch/exim.conf
>

I noticed my exim.conf is different than yours.  Specifically, after the 
received_header_text part you have:

sender_verify = true
receiver_verify = true

local_interfaces = 127.0.0.1

end

What is the purpose of those options?

I also noticed you used the maildir format.  What is the most desirable 
format to use with IMAP?

TIA,
Jesse 

can't start X

[James Carscadden]

Hopefully this is a simple problem. As root I can start and run X
without any problem, however as a user I get the message when using
startx: X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting. If I just
run X I get the same message. If I run XFree86 I get 

Fatal server error:
xf86OpenConsole: server must be setuid root

This is with XFree86 v4.0.2 rc3 on woody. This seems to be only a recent problem
croped up in the last couple of days. Any ideas how to fix this. What
file is the server? or do I have to add my user to some group or
another. This doesn't happen if I use XFree compiled myself so I assume
this is a debian problem.

Please cc me on reply as I am not subscribed to the list.

Thanks

James Carscadden
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Re: can't start X

[Bill Jonas]

On Sun, Dec 17, 2000 at 02:39:40AM -0500, James Carscadden wrote:
> croped up in the last couple of days. Any ideas how to fix this. What

Search the recent archives.  ;)

Hint: Look at /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config

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Re: modprobe module problem (char-major-10-135)

[Jim McClosky]

> How do I fix the following?
> 
> modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module char-major-10-135
> 
> This appears when booting my potato box. Why does this come up? 
> I mean, what is missing / wrong?

What special privileges does the Real Time Clock enjoy?  For the
longest time after I had compiled a 2.2.17 kernel, this error would
appear in the log-files. I'd comment out the line in modules.conf and
the errors would cease. I'd re-rerun update-modules (for whatever
independent reason) and the line would re-appear un-commented in
modules.conf and the error-messages would resume. It took me a while
to figure out that it was re-appearing in modules.conf because there
was a corresponding entry in /etc/modutils/arch/i386.  I deleted the
line from that file and the error messages ceased.

What I'm curious about, though, is how the line ever came to be in the
i386 file within /etc/modutils/arch.  I always say no (not M) to that
option when configuring the kernel,

Jim

dpkg can't handle a few pkgs due to nscd problem

[Pierfrancesco Caci]

I get the following error with a few packages, namely netsaint and
some other that need a user added in /etc/passwd


Unpacking netsaint (from .../netsaint_0.0.6stable-3_i386.deb) ...
adduser: `/usr/sbin/nscd -i passwd' returned error code 1.  Aborting.

What is that? nscd exists, I tried to stop it before reinstalling
netsaint, but without luck

Pf


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Re: modprobe module problem (char-major-10-135)

[Peter Jay Salzman]

for what it's worth, that device is your "RTC", or, real time clock.

the kernel is looking for rtc.o and isn't finding it...

in the future, you can find the device for a particular major/minor number
from /usr/src/linux/Documentation/devices.txt.

pete

On Sun 17 Dec 00,  2:27 AM, Sven Burgener said...
> Hello debs,
> 
> How do I fix the following?
> 
> modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module char-major-10-135
> 
> This appears when booting my potato box. Why does this come up? 
> I mean, what is missing / wrong?
> 
> Cheers
> Sven
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Re: modprobe module problem (char-major-10-135)

[Peter Jay Salzman]

i thought we weren't supposed to modify that file by hand?

is that the "proper" way of doing it, or is there an official debian method
that doesn't involve editing that file by hand?

pete

On Sat 16 Dec 00,  8:02 PM, Jason Holland said...
> Sven,
>   To get rid of that, put this line in your /etc/modules.conf file
> 
> alias char-major-10-135 off
> 
> Jason
> 
> > 
> > Hello debs,
> > 
> > How do I fix the following?
> > 
> > modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module char-major-10-135
> > 
> > This appears when booting my potato box. Why does this come up? 
> > I mean, what is missing / wrong?
> > 
> > Cheers
> > Sven
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> > 
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Re: exim (probably broken thread)

[Jonathan Gift]

On Sat, Dec 16, 2000 at 04:02:04PM +0100, Carel Fellinger wrote:
> 
> okee, this probably means that your /etc/inetd.conf got hoosed,
> unless you are running exim in daemon mode.
> Somewhere you need to find lines like:
> 

Hi,
I didn't know taht one could run exim in naything but daemon mode? How
can I set it upotherwise and have it work with fetchmail?

Thanks,

Jonathan

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Re: Which IMAP server to use

[Nate Amsden]

Juergen Fiedler wrote:
> 
> On Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 12:03:41PM -0500, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote:
> I installed it on my test machine, and it couldn't have been easier.
> Netscape is still bitching because I didn't create a site certificate
> yet, but it's working.

i would block connections from the world to a UW imapd server. it is
well known to be full of security holes(most of the known ones are
patched however from what i gather on BUGTRAQ the whole design of the
server isn't done with security in mind). or compile UW IMAP with the
stackgaurd GCC compiler. if your imap server is on a private network
then i guess there isn't much to worry about.

i for one just recently switched from uw imapd to cyrus, performance
increased by about 10 fold.

nate

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Re: POP server recomendations?

[Nate Amsden]

JD Kitch wrote:
> 
> I running a Debain Potato system, and only serving mail for a
> handfull of users.  I see a few different POP server packages
> available, and was wondering which one is most recomended/easiest to
> configure/most secure...etc, etc...

i use qpopper, although i have yet to try debian's version of it the
qpopper installations ive done have been from source. UW pop3d is
popular too although like UW imapd (and most other UW tools/programs it
seems) it has a history of security issues.

soon i will be playing with cyrus pop3 as well since i switched a bunch
of mail servers over to the cyrus mail format.

nate

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Re: interesting xmcd conundrum

[Peter Jay Salzman]

good enough.  /dev/cdrom points to /dev/scd0, which is owned by root.audio.
and all my real users are members of audio.

pete


On Sat 16 Dec 00, 12:48 PM, Eric G . Miller said...
> On Sat, Dec 16, 2000 at 12:32:26PM -0800, Eric G . Miller wrote:
> > Are you a member of the group "audio"?
> 
> Actually, I should've asked: Are you a member of the group "cdrom" and
> does the drive device that represents your cdrom have perms root.cdrom ?
> 
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depmod madness

[Peter Jay Salzman]

dear all,

i'm trying to resolve a "conf.modules is newer than /lib/modules/foo/foo.dep"
problem.

i thought that depmod -a would rewrite /lib/modules/foo/foo.dep.  in fact,
that's what i thought the whole point of depmod -a was.

apparently, depmod isn't writing this file, and the error message isn't
going away.  i know the message is harmless enough, but i'd still like to
shut it up.

i can always touch foo.dep, but that's cheating.  what's the real way of
resolving this error message?

thanks!
pete


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gdm Local script

[Richard Hunt]

Is there a script in the home directory that gdm reads as it
loads the session?

I wrote and Xsession file and it didn't parse that. All I want
is my Xdefaults to be read when I login. Can I edit the gdm
session files ad add 'xrdb -merge ~/.Xdefaults' to it, or would
that break it?
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Re: New woody upgrade problems

[Phillip Deackes]

On Sat, 16 Dec 2000 23:42:25 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Casey Henderson) wrote:

> Here's a problem related to your problem.  I got the same error when
> trying to install xlibs.  Earlier, I had received a warning about the
> app-defaults thing.  I moved the files in
> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults to /etc/app-defaults, and made a
> symlink from /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults to /etc/app-defaults
> (because I thought this was what I was supposed to do).


I have done this too. I get the error message only with xlibs and I get
over it by using 'dpkg -i --force-overwrite xlibs-blah-blah'. Dpkg
complains that xlibs has unresolved dependencies, but I then repeat the
'apt-get dist-upgrade' and apt carries on configuring packages. In that
process it will configure xlibs correctly.

Apt-get is annoying when it decides to simply stop processing any more
packages it has downloaded. There have been times when I haven't realised
what it has done (or not done) and I have had a half-upgraded system as a
result. Now I tend to run 'apt-get dist-upgrade' more than once to assure
myself that it has indeed completed the process. You can use dpkg to
configure pending packages too.

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Why doesn't enlightenment feature "zoom window" function under debian?

[Marco Herrn]

The "Zoom current window" feature of enlightenment doesn't work with the
deb-package of enlightenment. But my X-server does support it, because as I
installed and compiled enlightenment from the source-package, that I
downloaded from enlightenment org, it works with that version.

Is that feature not included in the deb-package?
How can I activate it, without compiling it on my own (that's not so good,
because I don't have the debian menu available then)?

Thanks


Marco

Error in dist-upgrade

[Erik van der Meulen]

I just did an 'apt-get dist-upgrade' on a clean potato installed system.
At some point I was confronted with this question:

 Configuration file `/etc/init.d/kerneld'
 ==> File on system created by you or by a script.
 ==> File also in package provided by package maintainer.
 What would you like to do about it ?  Your options are:
 Y or I  : install the package maintainer's version
 N or O  : keep your currently-installed version
   D : show the differences between the versions
   Z : background this process to examine the situation
  The default action is to keep your current
  version.

I took the default (keep current) option. Which resulted in:

Installing new version of config file /etc/modutils/aliases ...
Installing new version of config file /etc/modutils/arch/i386 ...
update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/kerneld: file does not exist
dpkg: error processing modutils (--configure):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1

Now, whenever I redo 'apt-get dist-upgrade' I see something like:

Setting up modutils (2.3.11-13.1) ...
update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/kerneld: file does not exist
dpkg: error processing modutils (--configure):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
 Errors were encountered while processing:
  modutils
  E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

Can anyone please help me see what I did wrong, and how to fix my system
again? Thanks a lot!

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potato mount and 2.2.18

[Igor Mozetic]

After installing the latest 2.2.18 kernel on a potato box
the following keeps appearing in /var/log/kern.log:

Dec 17 09:52:49 xxx kernel: nfs warning: mount version older than kernel

Does anybody know, is this of any consequence?

Potato mount:
ii  mount  2.10f-5.1  Tools for mounting and manipulating filesyst

Woody mount (2.10q-1) unfortunately requires major libc upgrade:
Pre-Depends: libc6 (>= 2.1.97)

-Igor Mozetic

Help with bug-reporting

[Jeronimo Pellegrini]

Hi.

If I file  bug with the wrong severity, is it possible for me to
change it, or should I wait for the mantainer to do that?
Is this documented somewhere?

J.

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IRQ: how to find out which is to be used?

[Erik Steffl]

  I have internal modem (real one, it works, the question is not about
it and I know I should get external one:-) which acts as a serial port.
It is ISA PnP card, can use different IRQs.

  My main question is: how do I find out which IRQ it uses using linux
tools?

  the only way I can do it now is boot windows and peek into control
panel|system (btw it uses either 9 or 11)

  I have also a strange related story to contribute: I have this modem
along with other cards (ISA: sb awe 64, PCI: voodoo 3, network card
lne100tx) and it has been using IRQ 11 for ages. Since the network card
does not work properly, I taken all the cards out (except of
video&network) and tested the network card (just to see if there are any
strange confilcts, becuase previously I noticed that network card
conflicted with soundcard when inserted in particular PCI slot (even
though soundcardis ISA card)). No config files were changed, AFAIK.

  Later on I put all the cards back into computer (exactly the same
slots) and suddenly I noticed that modem works incredibly slow, it
couldn't connect (timeouts). I suspected IRQ so I rebooted win95 and
sure enough, IRQ for the modem was now 9 (it was 11 before). I rebooted
back to linux, changed IRQ to 9 and now the modem works.

  neither 9 nor 11 is used by anything else. however, network card used
to be 9 and now is 10.

  any ideas why was the irq changed?

  thanks in advance

erik

upgrade to 2.2.r2 how?

[Bostjan Muller]

Hi!

How to upgrade debian potato 2.2r1 to 2.2.r2 ? will apt-get dist-upgrade do the
trick or will that upgrade it to woody?

THX in advance!

Bostjan
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World-readable home-dirs

[Tibor D.]

Hi,
during the installation i was asked if i want world-readable home 
directories. Where can I change that behaviour? So when I add a new user 
(adduser), it's home-dir should get automagically world-readable instead 
of non-readable.

Thanx
(it's not in /etc/adduser.conf)

Exim on a dialup

[Gary Jones]

I have just installed and configured exim on my box. Both incoming 
(via fetchmail) and outgoing mail work, but at the moment exim 
initiates a connection to my ISP as soon as it gets outgoing mail. I 
know there is a way to stop this but I couldn't see the details in 
the man page. Could someone point me in the right direction, please, 
maybe with a hint as to the keyword or phrase I should be looking for?

Mutt/exim - multiple email addresses

[Gary Jones]

What's the best way of rewriting addresses when you have multiple 
email accounts all pointed at the same local login? I've got exim 
setup to rewrite the 'From' on outgoing mail so that [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
becomes one of my real email addresses, which is fine as far as it 
goes. The problem is that I would like to be able to send email from 
my other addresses as well, with the correct 'From'. Some sort of 
interactive script thing, maybe? Does mutt have that kind of 
extensibility, like slrn?

Re: upgrade to 2.2.r2 how?

[Moritz Schulte]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bostjan Muller) writes:

> How to upgrade debian potato 2.2r1 to 2.2.r2 ? will apt-get
> dist-upgrade do the trick or will that upgrade it to woody?

If your sources.list contains the correct entries for Potato, 'apt-get
update' (to get the new package list) and 'apt-get dist-upgrade' (to
install the new packages)' should do it.

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Re: Mutt/exim - multiple email addresses

[Terry Boon]

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On Sun, Dec 17, 2000 at 12:52:11PM +0100, Gary Jones wrote:

> What's the best way of rewriting addresses when you have multiple 
> email accounts all pointed at the same local login? I've got exim 
> setup to rewrite the 'From' on outgoing mail so that [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> becomes one of my real email addresses, which is fine as far as it 
> goes. The problem is that I would like to be able to send email from 
> my other addresses as well, with the correct 'From'. Some sort of 
> interactive script thing, maybe? Does mutt have that kind of 
> extensibility, like slrn?

It's fairly straightforward in mutt, by editing the configuration file
muttrc or using keyboard commands.  Here are 4 ways to do it.

1) Include the line "set edit_headers" in your muttrc.

With this set, you can edit the message headers along with the main
message body.  If you want a custom "From: " line, you can add this in
along with the other headers.

2) From the "send mail" menu, press E to edit the message along with
headers, and add the "From" line of your choice.

3) From the "send mail" menu, press ESC-f to directly edit the "From"
line.

4) Use the "from" variable, or the "my_hdr" command to specify the
"From" line of your choice.

Use of these variables or commands can be automated using "hooks", so
that under specified conditions (eg being in a particular folder), a
predefined From address is used -- or (I think this is possible) by
binding a command like

  set from="[EMAIL PROTECTED]"

to a single key.

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Re: World-readable home-dirs

[Timo Benk]

Hi,

On Sun, Dec 17, 2000 at 12:45:34PM +0100, Tibor D. wrote:
> during the installation i was asked if i want world-readable home 
> directories. Where can I change that behaviour? So when I add a new user 
> (adduser), it's home-dir should get automagically world-readable instead 
> of non-readable.
> Thanx
> (it's not in /etc/adduser.conf)
No guarantee for that, but i can imagine that you can change the permissions
of /etc/skel as well as change the umask parameter in /etc/profile.

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Can you play sounds over the net in Potato?

[Anthony Campbell]

Various sites offer you the option to play sound over the net but all
require you to have some software to enable this.  I followed some links
for this in Linux Debian but they were all for Woody, which I don't want
to upgrade to yet.

Is there anything available for Potato?

Anthony

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Free translation: "Holdfast is your only dog."

Re: exim (probably broken thread)

[Carel Fellinger]

On Sun, Dec 17, 2000 at 10:26:41AM +0100, Jonathan Gift wrote:
...
> Hi,
> I didn't know taht one could run exim in naything but daemon mode? How
> can I set it upotherwise and have it work with fetchmail?

There are some long winding threads going on on setting up exim
and fetchmail, but normally it's a snap:)

Per default exim is started up from inet.d, but if you once set
it up to run in daemon mode, all you have to do is add a line
to /etc/inetd.conf:

#:MAIL: Mail, news and uucp services.
smtpstream  tcp nowait  mail/usr/sbin/exim exim -bs

You'll have to check your exim crontab, it might have been changed to
deal with daemon mode too.

For fetchmail just use fetchmailconf.

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[Dragón]

  The problem was anXious because this command doesn't work properly. I've 
fixed the problem
when I've discovered the XF86Setup command which is a wonderful tool.

  Now the problem is that some programs don't work, like the database 
managers and the
screensavers, they even don't give me any error messages.

  
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fetchmail's aka not working?

[Carel Fellinger]

Hi,

I'm trying to help others with fetchmail to discover that fetchmail
doesn't work like the docs tell it should:(

running the latest of potato, fetchmail 5.3.3+NTLM+SDPS+NLS.

According to the docs:

  The aka option now matches hostname suffixes, so (for example) saying
  `aka netaxs.com' will match not just netaxs.com but also (say)
  pop3.netaxs.com and mail.netaxs.com.

but if I try this in multi-drop mode it keeps complaining that
mail.netaxs.com is no alias for the mailserver, how come?

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Re: IRQ: how to find out which is to be used?

[ktb]

On Sun, Dec 17, 2000 at 03:25:56AM -0800, Erik Steffl wrote:
>   I have internal modem (real one, it works, the question is not about
> it and I know I should get external one:-) which acts as a serial port.
> It is ISA PnP card, can use different IRQs.
> 
>   My main question is: how do I find out which IRQ it uses using linux
> tools?
> 
>   the only way I can do it now is boot windows and peek into control
> panel|system (btw it uses either 9 or 11)
> 

Have you taken a look at "dmesg" yet?  I know it shows the irq's
of my network cards.  Also you can "cat /proc/interupts".
hth,
kent

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Re: IRQ: how to find out which is to be used?

[Paul Huygen]

 Erik Steffl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> asked:

>  how do I find out which IRQ [my internal PnP modem] uses
>  using linux tools?

I think by typing:

cat /proc/interrupts

Paul Huygen

The lazy-"E"-character affair

[paolo massei]

I'm running a pure potato flavour of debian2.2 updated with the
'official' package r2 in debian sites, under "stable" version.

The problem is that when I type the "E" letter in "vi" insert mode,
I have a two or three second delay between typing and appairing
of lazy "E" on my monitor.

The "vi" command is a symlink to /usr/bin/elvisnox;

elvisnox in a shell script that says:

-begin--

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc$ less /usr/bin/elvisnox
#!/bin/sh

# This is a little "wrapper" shell script, which runs elvis with
# the GUI set to always be termcap, useful for people (like me) that _hate_
# all these evil attempts to make "vi" ito a graphical editor.  ;-)

exec /usr/bin/elvis -G termcap "$@"

---end

This strange phenomenon appairs also if I run the pure 'elvis' command,
without wrappers or other options.
It appears in: console, Xterm, gnome-terminal (I hate Eterm ;)) but
NOT appens in 'elvis X11' under Xfree in the debian menu.

It happens *only* with "E" character.

For reproducing: run elvis; press i; press E. 

Sob!!!

Any idea?

 paolo massei

Re: Java2

[paolo massei]

On Sat, Dec 16, 2000 at 04:38:35PM -0800, Dale Morris wrote:
> I downloaded the j2sdk1.3 package from Blackdown, it installed fine, but
> doesn't work when I try to setup staroffice. Any suggestions? I'm using
> debian 2.2 (libranet 1.8.2 that's been apt-get upgraded). I suppose
> there's some permission somewhere that has to be changed, but I'm not
> sure where it is.
> 

I don't know about your problem, but both staroffice and openoffice 
work with JDK 1.1.8.

 paolo massei

wine + 3dfx

[Christoph Simon]

Hi,

Anybody managed to run, say sol.exe with wine, X4, and tdfx on a pure
woody box? I get a complete X crash complaining about dri (kernel is
2.4.0-test12).

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help
shit
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Where is task-kde?

[Gian Piero Ascenso]

Hi,

I'm trying to install KDE2 on my Debian potato. This is the KDE line I got in 
sources-list:

# KDE
deb http://kde.tdyc.com potato main crypto optional qt1apps

Nevertheless, when I try to apt-get install task-kde I'm told it's nowhere to 
be found:

debian:/home/gpa# apt-get update

<>

debian:/home/gpa# apt-get install task-kde
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
E: Couldn't find package task-kde
debian:/home/gpa# 

I also tried to change the order of the sections (potato main qt1apps optional 
crypto),
but the result is the same. Last week I read in the debia-user list that this 
setup
worked nicely. Has anything changed since then?

Gian Piero

RE: modprobe module problem (char-major-10-135)

[Jason Holland]

Pete,
  I'm not sure about that.  I always edit it by hand, just because I've
become comfortable doing that.  if there is another way, or official way of
making changes to this file, I'd like to hear about it.  Anyone??

Jason

>
> i thought we weren't supposed to modify that file by hand?
>
> is that the "proper" way of doing it, or is there an official
> debian method
> that doesn't involve editing that file by hand?
>
> pete
>
> On Sat 16 Dec 00,  8:02 PM, Jason Holland said...
> > Sven,
> >   To get rid of that, put this line in your /etc/modules.conf file
> >
> > alias char-major-10-135 off
> >
> > Jason
> >
> > >
> > > Hello debs,
> > >
> > > How do I fix the following?
> > >
> > > modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module char-major-10-135
> > >
> > > This appears when booting my potato box. Why does this come up?
> > > I mean, what is missing / wrong?
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > > Sven
> > > --
> > > c:\> deltree /y \windows
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact
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> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
>
> --
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Re: modprobe module problem (char-major-10-135)

[David Wright]

Quoting Jason Holland ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

> > >   To get rid of that, put this line in your /etc/modules.conf file

>   I'm not sure about that.  I always edit it by hand, just because I've
> become comfortable doing that.  if there is another way, or official way of
> making changes to this file, I'd like to hear about it.  Anyone??

man update-modules

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eth between two computers

[Matthias Schulz]

I'm trying to make a ethernet-connection between two computers in order to 
replace the up to now used plip.

I put in the laptop a linksys PCMPC100 an it got recognized immediately.
I put in the desktop-machine a linksys LNE100TX, compiled the supplied 
drivers and put the results pci-scan.o and tulip.o into 
/lib/modules/2.2.17/net.

I took the plip down and fired up the eth up with:

>ifconfig 192.168.0.3 eth0 up at one side and
>ifconfig 192.168.0.1 eth0 up at the other side.

I can ping each other:
ROOT> ping 192.168.0.1
PING 192.168.0.1 (192.168.0.1): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=255 time=0.7 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=255 time=0.4 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=255 time=0.4 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=3 ttl=255 time=0.4 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=4 ttl=255 time=0.4 ms
 
--- 192.168.0.1 ping statistics ---
5 packets transmitted, 5 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max = 0.4/0.4/0.7 ms
ROOT>

Then I checked:
ROOT> route
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface
192.168.0.0 *   255.255.255.0   U 0  00 eth0
ROOT>

This is the same on both ends.

Then I tried :

ROOT> route add -host 192.168.0.3 on machine "a" which should get 192.168.0.3
SIOCADDRT: No such device
ROOT> route add -host 192.168.0.1 gave me the same result
SIOCADDRT: No such device
ROOT>

I read the NET3-4-HOWTO but got no clue.

Anyone else a tip for me?

Tx Matth

Re: Why doesn't enlightenment feature "zoom window" function under debian?

[Bill Jonas]

On Sun, Dec 17, 2000 at 11:50:27AM +0100, Marco Herrn wrote:
> How can I activate it, without compiling it on my own (that's not so good,
> because I don't have the debian menu available then)?

Well, this isn't exactly an answer to your question, but compiling it on
your own isn't so bad.  Make sure you have the dpkg-dev installed, cd to
/usr/local/src (or wherever you prefer to compile things), and "apt-get
source enlightenment".  Then cd into the newly created source directory
and edit the debian/rules file, specifically the line where the configure
script (or equivalent) is run.  Then you become root in the manner you
prefer:

# dpkg-buildpackage

Or, if you prefer to do things as a regular user:

$ dpkg-buildpackage -rsudo

(If you prefer to use fakeroot instead or sudo, make that '-rfakeroot'.)

HTH.

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Re: potato mount and 2.2.18

[Ethan Benson]

On Sun, Dec 17, 2000 at 12:12:21PM +0100, Igor Mozetic wrote:
> After installing the latest 2.2.18 kernel on a potato box
> the following keeps appearing in /var/log/kern.log:
> 
> Dec 17 09:52:49 xxx kernel: nfs warning: mount version older than kernel
> 
> Does anybody know, is this of any consequence?
> 
> Potato mount:
> ii  mount  2.10f-5.1  Tools for mounting and manipulating filesyst
> 
> Woody mount (2.10q-1) unfortunately requires major libc upgrade:
> Pre-Depends: libc6 (>= 2.1.97)

i just compiled the woody mount (actually util-linux) sources on
potato and got a mount.deb which depends on potato's libc6 instead of
woody's.  this eliminates the error.  

i think the error is harmless, though it might not be possible to
mount nfsv3 filesystems with it, im not sure on though.

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Re: potato mount and 2.2.18

[Bill Jonas]

On Sun, Dec 17, 2000 at 12:12:21PM +0100, Igor Mozetic wrote:
> Woody mount (2.10q-1) unfortunately requires major libc upgrade:
> Pre-Depends: libc6 (>= 2.1.97)

For woody packages I want to install on my potato system, I usually put the
deb-src lines for woody in my /etc/apt/sources.list.  Then (in this case,
for mount), cd to wherever you do source compiling (I like /usr/local/src),
and (if you use sudo like me, you can do this; if not, become root first)
"sudo apt-get -b source mount".  Then just run "dpkg -i" on the resulting
.deb that's produced.  If there are still dependencies on a newer libc
version, you may have to twiddle the /debian/control file.
Then, from , make sure you have dpkg-dev installed and run
"dpkg-buildpackage -rsudo" (substitute fakeroot for sudo if you prefer it,
or become root first and just run "dpkg-buildpackage").

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modules.dep problems

[Gordon Dykes]

I have just installed the 2.2.18pre21 kernel image and have problems 
loading the modules.

When i boot in to linux this message is shown
   depmod *** cant open dependencies files in /lib/modules/2.2.17/modules.dep

I have played with depmod, update-modules and modules config and got 
very similar responses.
I have uninstalled the 2.2.17 kernel image through dselect and want 
to use the 2.2.18 kernel.


How can i get the modules to work and configured.

Your time is much appreciated.
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Re: how to tell what functions in a library

[J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\)]

On Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 22:14:35 -0200, Christoph Simon wrote:
> Take the static version of it, then you can use nm(1)

nm(1) works for dynamic libaries as well, e.g.
 nm --defined-only --dynamic /usr/lib/libz.so.1.1.3

HTH,
Ray
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Re: eth between two computers

[Bill Jonas]

On Sun, Dec 17, 2000 at 10:45:52AM -0600, Matthias Schulz wrote:
> Anyone else a tip for me?

You don't need to run the route commands for this.

The output of your route display:
> ROOT> route
> Kernel IP routing table
> Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface
> 192.168.0.0 *   255.255.255.0   U 0  00 eth0

Note the Detination column.  This, combined with the Genmask column, means
that this row is for IP traffic for 192.168.0.anything.  The '*' in the
Gateway column means that no gateway is needed, that this is just a local
interface.  (You see which one, of course, in the Iface column.)  Have you
tried running your program yet?  You said you could ping one computer from
the other, so I suspect all is well.

If you don't want to refer to the machines by numbers, stick a couple of
lines in your /etc/hosts file on each host:
192.168.0.1 machine1
192.168.0.3 machine2

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Re: exim configuration

[Phil Brutsche]

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A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said...

> I noticed my exim.conf is different than yours.  Specifically, after the
> received_header_text part you have:
>
> sender_verify = true
> receiver_verify = true

I find that a lot of spam comes through with faked domains - this also
guarantees that I won't get an email that I can't respond to because the
mail domain doesn't exist.

> local_interfaces = 127.0.0.1

This tells exim to bind *only* to 127.0.0.1 (localhost) - any connect
attempts to any other IP address will be futile since there's nothing
there to connect to.

This one and the *_verify lines are purely optional and having them set or
not really shouldn't affect how exim works.

> end

signifies the end of a section

> What is the purpose of those options?
>
> I also noticed you used the maildir format.  What is the most desirable
> format to use with IMAP?

The most desireable format for use with IMAP depends entirely on your
situation - I used maildir because I do a lot of stuff over NFS at home,
and maildir is a good mailbox format to use over NFS.

You can get by perfectly well without maildir - I did for 2 years on
tux.creighton.edu before I switched that to maildir.

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recent archives?

[Xucaen]

> 
> Search the recent archives.  ;)
> 


does anyone have the address of the archives?





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I can't type any ü, ä or ö in a shell

[Manuel Hendel]

Hi,

can anyone give me a hint wy I can't use ä,ö,ü in a shell. "less" is
also not able to show these letters. Where's the problem? What do I
have to look at to fix it?

Thans Manuel

Re: exim (probably broken thread)

[Phil Brutsche]

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A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said...

> On Sat, Dec 16, 2000 at 04:02:04PM +0100, Carel Fellinger wrote:
> >
> > okee, this probably means that your /etc/inetd.conf got hoosed,
> > unless you are running exim in daemon mode.
> > Somewhere you need to find lines like:
> >
>
> Hi,
> I didn't know taht one could run exim in naything but daemon mode? How
> can I set it upotherwise and have it work with fetchmail?

exim can be configured to run from inetd - I have the commented-out line

smtpstream  tcp nowait  mail/usr/sbin/exim exim -bs

in /etc/inetd.conf.

fetchmail can be told to deliver mail by calling an external program (ie
/usr/sbin/exim with the appropriate command-line parameters) rather than
try to connect to an SMTP server.

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Re: gdm Local script

[Jon Pennington]

Richard Hunt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

> I wrote and Xsession file and it didn't parse that.

You mean ~/.Xsession here, right?  .Xsession must also be +x, and you should
select the session type "Xsession" from the menu if you're using GDM-Helix.

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RE: modprobe module problem (char-major-10-135)

[Jon Pennington]

Jason Holland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

> Pete,
>   I'm not sure about that.  I always edit it by hand, just because I've
> become comfortable doing that.  if there is another way, or official way of
> making changes to this file, I'd like to hear about it.  Anyone??

If you're still confused after digging through man update-modules (which I was
still a /bit/ nervous), the long and the short of it is that any changes you
*would* make to /etc/modules.conf *should* be added to /etc/modutils/local (a
regular file).  I keep a copy of modules.conf from a SuSE 7.0 box handy for
referece :).

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installing pine

[Xucaen]

Hi all... curious.. I'm trying to install pine
via apt-get but it tells me package found but
can't be installed..  I don't have the exact
error message (it was late.  ;-).
has anyone else been able to install pine?

thanks

xucaen


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debian 2.2 + kernel 2.2.18 + USB

[Davi Leal]

I have debian 2.2 installed on my host. I have downloaded the
kernel.2.2.18.tar.gz and I have compiled it with USB support so as to use my
USB modem on Linux. But the '/sbin/hotplug' does not appear. Maybe, is there
a .deb file which I could download and install directly which keeps all  the
scripts and tools what I need to set up USB support on my host?.

Any comment?.


Davi

Re: installing pine

[ktb]

On Sun, Dec 17, 2000 at 09:55:42AM -0800, Xucaen wrote:
> Hi all... curious.. I'm trying to install pine
> via apt-get but it tells me package found but
> can't be installed..  I don't have the exact
> error message (it was late.  ;-).
> has anyone else been able to install pine?
> 

You can search the archives to find a link to the deb.  There
are licensing issues with pine so Debian doesn't include it but
there are people who have built the debs.  I just snagged the
latest stable release (source) from the pine web site.  I had to
install a library or two but it was no big deal.  Compiled just
fine.  You might want to try mutt.  I like it a lot better.  It
took some configuring but it isn't as clunky as pine.
hth,
kent

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Re: IRQ: how to find out which is to be used?

[Erik Steffl]

ktb wrote:
> 
> On Sun, Dec 17, 2000 at 03:25:56AM -0800, Erik Steffl wrote:
> >   I have internal modem (real one, it works, the question is not about
> > it and I know I should get external one:-) which acts as a serial port.
> > It is ISA PnP card, can use different IRQs.
> >
> >   My main question is: how do I find out which IRQ it uses using linux
> > tools?
> >
> >   the only way I can do it now is boot windows and peek into control
> > panel|system (btw it uses either 9 or 11)
> >
> 
> Have you taken a look at "dmesg" yet?  I know it shows the irq's
> of my network cards.  Also you can "cat /proc/interupts".

  boot messages:

ttyS00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
ttyS01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
ttyS02 at 0x03e8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A

  so it's completely useless, it just sets it to 'standard' values, I
have to manually set it to proper IRQ (I put a line into
/etc/serial.conf)

  /proc/interrupts:

  the same, it just shows whatever I set. AFAIK it only shows actually
received interrupts, so unless I really use the modem it wouldn't show
anything, and to use modem I need to know interrupts.

  isn't there a way to find that out? I don't know how windows do it but
they are able to figure it out somehow.

erik

exim--forward-filtering

[Jesse Goerz]

I'm using IMAP for my mail and had a few questions about exim.

I noticed in /usr/share/doc/exim/README.Debian has a short little example of 
.forward files.  Do .forward files have to be used on a per user basis or can 
I put the files somewhere where it is globally used?

What are .forwared files anyway?  Are they kind of like filter rules for an 
email client?

I saw that /usr/share/doc/exim/filter.txt explains a lot about filters, is 
there anything a little less "technical".

Anyone got any sample .forward or filter files they would be willing to share?

TIA,
Jesse

Re: I can't type any ü, ä or ö in a shell

[Thomas Guettler]

On Sun, Dec 17, 2000 at 06:47:34PM +0100, Manuel Hendel wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> can anyone give me a hint wy I can't use ä,ö,ü in a shell. "less" is
> also not able to show these letters. Where's the problem? What do I
> have to look at to fix it?

tried task-german? BTW, there is a german debian-list, too.

-- 
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Conflicting reports re: kernel version

[JoshNarins]

root ! # grep RELEASE /usr/linux/include/version.h
#define UTS_RELEASE="2.2.15"

root ! # `uname --release`
2.2.17

Any ideas?

Re: Conflicting reports re: kernel version

[Carel Fellinger]

On Sun, Dec 17, 2000 at 02:16:14PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> root ! # grep RELEASE /usr/linux/include/version.h

now who put that /usr/linux there? it's not on my machine.

> #define UTS_RELEASE="2.2.15"
> 
> root ! # `uname --release`
> 2.2.17
> 
> Any ideas?

I guess that you once installed sources for 2.2.15 and linked
/usr/linux to it.

-- 
groetjes, carel

Re: IRQ: how to find out which is to be used?

[David Z Maze]

Erik Steffl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
ES> I have internal modem (real one, it works, the question is not about
ES> it and I know I should get external one:-) which acts as a serial port.
ES> It is ISA PnP card, can use different IRQs.
ES> 
ES> My main question is: how do I find out which IRQ it uses using linux
ES> tools?

The short answer is "it uses any IRQ you want it to", it being a
plug-and-pray device.

Slightly longer answer: install the isapnptools package.  Run
'pnpdump'; this will give you a listing of all of the PnP devices on
your system, with some configurable parameters.  Save the result into
/etc/isapnp.conf and edit to taste.  You can run '/etc/init.d/isapnp
start' to test the results; that file will also be used to configure
your PnP devices to your liking on every boot.

-- 
David Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://www.mit.edu/~dmaze/
"Theoretical politics is interesting.  Politicking should be illegal."
-- Abra Mitchell

RE: I'm Confused with SBLive!

[Javier Sieben]

-Mensaje original-
De: Martin Albert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Para: Javier Sieben <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
CC: Debian User 
Fecha: Sábado, 16 de Diciembre de 2000 10:35 a.m.
Asunto: Re: I'm Confused with SBLive!


>Hi, Javier!
>
>In my /etc/modules.conf i have two lines (for i'm using 2 soundcards):
>
>alias sound-slot-0 esssolo1
>alias sound-slot-1 emu10k1
>
>this works for me, the drivers are drawn automatically when i use
>the mixers or start kde
>
>HTH, greetings, martin
>

Yes, I added the second line plus others for use the OSS
Finally can hear sound, but with low volume and when I try to move the
control in the mixer the sound vanishes.

Thanks, Martin.

Javier

Re: recent archives?

[David Z Maze]

Xucaen  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> Search the recent archives.  ;)
X> 
X> does anyone have the address of the archives?

Have you tried the prominent "Mailing List Archives" link from the
left side of http://www.debian.org/?

-- 
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"Theoretical politics is interesting.  Politicking should be illegal."
-- Abra Mitchell

Compiling of system components on K6-2

[Patrick Schnorbus]

Hello,

I have a problem with compiling.  My compiler (gcc version 2.95.2 2220 
(Debian GNU/Linux)), potato makes funny things when I try to compile some 
programs.
For example I want to set up a Linux-from-scratch system 
(www.linuxfromscratch.org). When I try to compile glibc he makes me a syntax 
error in an included file. Or when I try to compile some oher programs 
(konqueror-embedded, licq) he makes an internal compiler error.

I can´t see any reason for this - is it caused by my CPU (AMD K6-2 350) ?
Any idea?

Patrick

Re: installing pine

[Nate Amsden]

Xucaen wrote:
> 
> Hi all... curious.. I'm trying to install pine
> via apt-get but it tells me package found but
> can't be installed..  I don't have the exact
> error message (it was late.  ;-).
> has anyone else been able to install pine?

yes i downloaded the 3rd party pine packages a while back and have
a mirror if you want to get them,

http://portal.aphroland.org/debian/packages/

i don't remember the original site ..and my site is not apt'able

nate

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Re: Unidentified subject!

[Philipp Schulte]

On Sat, Dec 16, 2000 at 10:25:44PM -0800, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: 

> on Sat, Dec 16, 2000 at 01:07:36PM +0100, Andre Berger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
> wrote:
> > "Arthur Denisov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > 
> > > The author of this letter the student, citizen of Russia. I am 
> > > addressed(paid) to you as to the kind, sympathetic man and I hope, that 
> > > you can help the student requiring in money to training and habitation. 
> > > Very much I ask to send me on the bank account
> > [blabla]
> > 
> > They've even run out of line breaks in Russia...
> 
> Quick!! Let's organize a group to provide line breaks for Russia!!
> Everyone send in your linefeeds, carriage returns, vertical tabs, and
> \015s!!

Sure:




























































































> Next activity:  sanityforkarsten.org

What do you need? Backspaces? ~?
Phil

PS/2 Mouse

[john gennard]

I've built a third box to experiment and learn - it's time I really
understand the basics! The idea was to have Potato, Storm and three 
rpm based installations and compare the different ways things are 
arranged. I've tried to install Storm before but given up as it 
continually defaulted to PS/2 for the mouse and I couldn't set things 
up as I wanted. All mice I've used to date have been serial ones.

At a Computer Fair I picked up some cheap CD's for Storm 2.02, 
Caldera, Turbo and Mandrake and a two button Microsoft Mouse 
described as 'Mouse Port Compatible Mouse 2.1A' with PS/2 connector.

All installations went fine and filled a 10.2Gig IDE hard drive and I 
used the mouse throughout.

Now whilst the mouse works with each of the three non-Debian distros, 
it does not with either Storm or Potato (I mean within X). I think 
I've traced the problem but have no idea how to eradicate it. On  
Potato /dev/mouse is linked to /dev/gpmdata. So it was on Storm until 
I altered that link to /dev/psaux which I assumed to be correct. The 
mouse works on neither. I'd not heard of gpm before - I've looked at 
man gpm but do not completely understand its relevance, is it not for 
console work?

I've installed Kde on Potato and Gnome on Storm - (again for 
comparison purposes), but can log into neither. How do I deal with 
this mouse? Grateful for any advice.  John. 

Re: PS/2 Mouse

[Bill Jonas]

On Sun, Dec 17, 2000 at 08:31:24PM +, john gennard wrote:
> I've built a third box to experiment and learn - it's time I really
> Now whilst the mouse works with each of the three non-Debian distros, 
> it does not with either Storm or Potato (I mean within X). I think 
> I've traced the problem but have no idea how to eradicate it. On  
> Potato /dev/mouse is linked to /dev/gpmdata. So it was on Storm until 
> I altered that link to /dev/psaux which I assumed to be correct. The 
> mouse works on neither. I'd not heard of gpm before - I've looked at 
> man gpm but do not completely understand its relevance, is it not for 
> console work?

Yes -- it allows you to cut-and-paste from the console.

A few relevant lines from my /etc/X11/XF86Config:

Section "Pointer"
   Protocol"Intellimouse"
   Device  "/dev/gpmdata"
   Resolution  100
   Buttons 3
EndSection

(FWIW, the above was cut-and-pasted using gpm at the console.)

At first, I didn't really like the fact that Debian, by default, uses gpm
for its X mouse device.  Since then, I've changed my mind; if something
gets screwed up with the mouse, I've always been able to run
"/etc/init.d/gpm restart" and fix the problem.  I've no idea how one would
reset the mouse in X without exiting and restarting.

-- 
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]|  you aren't there yet." --George Carlin
http://www.billjonas.com/ |  http://www.harrybrowne.org/

Re: IRQ: how to find out which is to be used?

[Steven Kurylo]

To find which IRQ a ISA PnP card is using, you need to use the ISA PnP 
tools.  I think it might even be installed with a default debian setup.


run "pnpdump" and it will scan for cards and tell you everything you need 
to know about the device to get it running.


Of course refer to the manfiles (man pnpdump ; man isapnp) or the isapnp 
website http://www.roestock.demon.co.uk/isapnptools/


Here is part of the results pnpdump returns for me (I have one ISA NIC)

(CONFIGURE PNP0060/5931815 (LD 0
# Compatible device id PNP80d6
# Logical device decodes 10 bit IO address lines
# Minimum IO base address 0x0200
# Maximum IO base address 0x03e0
# IO base alignment 32 bytes
# Number of IO addresses required: 32
# (IO 0 (SIZE 32) (BASE 0x0200) (CHECK))
# IRQ 3, 4, 5, 9, 10, 11, 12 or 15.
# High true, edge sensitive interrupt
# (INT 0 (IRQ 3 (MODE +E)))
 (NAME "PNP0060/5931815[0]{NE2000 PLUG & PLAY ETHERNET CARD}")

If you just want to know the IRQ "(INT 0 (IRQ 3 (MODE +E)))" is all you 
need to find.  My card is on IRQ 3.



At 12:39 PM 17/12/2000, Erik Steffl wrote:

ktb wrote:
>
> On Sun, Dec 17, 2000 at 03:25:56AM -0800, Erik Steffl wrote:
> >   I have internal modem (real one, it works, the question is not about
> > it and I know I should get external one:-) which acts as a serial port.
> > It is ISA PnP card, can use different IRQs.
> >
> >   My main question is: how do I find out which IRQ it uses using linux
> > tools?
> >
> >   the only way I can do it now is boot windows and peek into control
> > panel|system (btw it uses either 9 or 11)
> >
>
> Have you taken a look at "dmesg" yet?  I know it shows the irq's
> of my network cards.  Also you can "cat /proc/interupts".

  boot messages:

ttyS00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
ttyS01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
ttyS02 at 0x03e8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A

  so it's completely useless, it just sets it to 'standard' values, I
have to manually set it to proper IRQ (I put a line into
/etc/serial.conf)

  /proc/interrupts:

  the same, it just shows whatever I set. AFAIK it only shows actually
received interrupts, so unless I really use the modem it wouldn't show
anything, and to use modem I need to know interrupts.

  isn't there a way to find that out? I don't know how windows do it but
they are able to figure it out somehow.

erik


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Re: installing pine

[Dwight Johnson]

On Sun, 17 Dec 2000, ktb wrote:

>   You might want to try mutt.  I like it a lot better.  It
>   took some configuring but it isn't as clunky as pine.

I have recently been trying mutt and, quite honestly, I have find mutt a
lot clunkier than Pine.

One example: when you call up Pine for the first time in any home
directory, Pine creates a default .pinerc and it is extremely easy to
customize Pine from the Pine master menu.

In contrast, with mutt, no .muttrc is created automatically on first use
and evidently there exists no easy to use configuration program (at least I
have been unable to find one) as there is in Pine. It took me an hour of
wading through documentation to figure out how to just get my 'From:'
header to display my e-mail address. Apparently, I must do the same for
each item of customization I want in mutt.

Another example: control and navigation keys are clearly displayed at the
bottom of each Pine screen. For the equivalent functionality in mutt, I
must press '?' and wade through a gadzillion keys displayed over multiple
screens.

I would gladly convert to mutt from Pine just to get a more pure open
source license. But, in my opinion, the clunkiness of mutt makes such a
conversion quite formidable when I must still read my e-mail each day.

So I am very surprised to hear you say that you think Pine is clunkier than
mutt. I would welcome learning in what ways.

Dwight

Re: Help with bug-reporting

[Colin Watson]

Jeronimo Pellegrini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>If I file  bug with the wrong severity, is it possible for me to
>change it, or should I wait for the mantainer to do that?

Yes, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with something like
'severity 9 wishlist', or whatever the bug number and new severity
are, as the message body (*not* the subject).

Please do fix up severities yourself, as maintainers of large packages
in particular often have too much to do to spend time categorizing bugs.
It's much easier for them if it's all just there.

>Is this documented somewhere?

Yep - http://bugs.debian.org/, or /usr/doc/debian/bug-* if you've
installed the doc-debian package.

-- 
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Re: installing pine

[Jon Pennington]

Dwight Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

> So I am very surprised to hear you say that you think Pine is clunkier than
> mutt. I would welcome learning in what ways.

I cut my teeth on Pine and Pico.  About a year ago, I started playing with
mutt, and was quickly frustrated by the appearant complexity and non-intuitive
interface, so I gave up.

Six months later, I finally learned how to use vi instead of pico for
everything, and realized that intuitiveness is a matter of perspective; you
just have to be in the right frame of mind.  Now it's hard for me to use pico
(nano) for anything useful, let alone editing complex files.  Once you become
accustomed to mutt, the keybindings, making your own filters, et cetera, pine
will become like a pair of training wheels; crucial at one time, but
impossible to use now.

Trust me, it's worth using for a week.  I still don't use mutt because of the
high volume of mail I receive and process every day at work.  On the other
hand, for my personal accounts, mutt is the only client I'll use willingly. 
There are also a number of tools on the interet to make configuring and
extending mutt easier; check Freshmeat.net.

-- 
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.atipa.com
Kansas City, MO, USA  | 816-595-3000 x1550

Re: debian 2.2 + kernel 2.2.18 + USB

[David Teague]

On Sun, 17 Dec 2000, Davi Leal wrote:

> I have debian 2.2 installed on my host. I have downloaded the
> kernel.2.2.18.tar.gz and I have compiled it with USB support so as to use my
> USB modem on Linux. But the '/sbin/hotplug' does not appear. Maybe, is there
> a .deb file which I could download and install directly which keeps all  the
> scripts and tools what I need to set up USB support on my host?.

Davi and others:

I'm interested in the 250 MB ZIP USB that I acquired and use under
Windows, but want to access it under Linux. I know about
adding USB support to the kernel, but else must I do?

Would someone point me to the right place to find how make this
device work with Potato. RTFM is ok, if the right manual and
where to find the manual are given.

--David
David Teague, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debian GNU/Linux Because software support is free, timely,
 useful, technically accurate, and friendly.
 (I hope this is all of the above.)

Re: Conflicting reports re: kernel version

[Colin Watson]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>root ! # grep RELEASE /usr/linux/include/version.h
>#define UTS_RELEASE="2.2.15"

If you mean /usr/include/linux/version.h, then that's simply the version
of the kernel headers against which your copy of libc6 was compiled.
It's nothing to do with what kernel you're actually running.

(Other distributions symlink /usr/include/linux to
/usr/src/linux/include/linux, so that that file will probably point to
whatever kernel you compiled most recently or something. There's often
discussion on the kernel mailing list about why this is a bad idea:
basically, compiling applications against mismatched kernel headers and
libc can produce unstable results.)

-- 
Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: eth between two computers

[Sebastiaan]

Hi,


> I put in the laptop a linksys PCMPC100 an it got recognized immediately.
> I put in the desktop-machine a linksys LNE100TX, compiled the supplied 
> drivers and put the results pci-scan.o and tulip.o into 
> /lib/modules/2.2.17/net.
> 
> >ifconfig 192.168.0.3 eth0 up at one side and
> >ifconfig 192.168.0.1 eth0 up at the other side.
> 
> 
> Then I checked:
> ROOT> route
> Kernel IP routing table
> Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface
> 192.168.0.0 *   255.255.255.0   U 0  00 eth0
> ROOT>
> 
> This is the same on both ends.
> 
> Then I tried :
> 
> ROOT> route add -host 192.168.0.3 on machine "a" which should get 192.168.0.3
> SIOCADDRT: No such device
> ROOT> route add -host 192.168.0.1 gave me the same result
> SIOCADDRT: No such device
> ROOT>

Why do you want to do that? It all works, right? Most important for the
routing table are the networks: which network to which ethernet card. 
If you change /etc/network/interfaces everything is handled correcly:

iface eth0 inet static
address 192.168.0.1
netmask 255.255.255.0
network 192.168.0.0
broadcast 192.168.0.255
#   gateway 192.168.0.3 #you can use a gateway if, for example,
192.168.0.3 is configured as ip-masquerade, so you can share your internet
connection


Now you can do a simple
# ifup eth0 
to initialize the ethernet card and
# ifdown eth0
to shut it down.

The routing table should also be fine for common use. (if you have complex
server configurations you may want to change something here).

Greetz,
Sebastiaan

PSM for mozilla as .deb?

[Andreas Reuleaux]

Hi,

I just installed the mozilla (M18) pkg on a fresh Debian 2.2r2 box.

One has to install PSM (Personal Security Manager, see Mozilla homepage) 
in order to access https://... URLs. 

PSM is suppused to be installed from within mozilla by clicking on a
button "Install..." at the PSM web page and then waiting for the magic
to download. My internet connection at home is rather slow though,
(I do have faster Internet access from my work, win32 :-( and) therefore I
would like to install PSM in to steps: (1) download - preferably a
.deb, and (2) install on my machine. Does anybody have such a
downloadable PSM (.deb) file?

I would expect such a package in the non-free area of debian,
can any of the netscape packages there be used as a replacemant?

Thanks in advance.

Andreas

Re: umlaut accents

[Jim McClosky]

Manuel Hendel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

|> can anyone give me a hint wy I can't use ä,ö,ü in a shell. "less"
|> is also not able to show these letters. Where's the problem? What
|> do I have to look at to fix it?

I believe you can enable this by editing the file /etc/inputrc, which
controls the behaviour of readline. According to the instructions
there, if you uncomment the line:

set convert-meta off

you should be able to display umlaut accents.

I've not tried this myself though,

Jim

Re: Packages sorted by group

[Colin Watson]

Rudi Borth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Debian packages are listed alphabetically in
>indices/Packages-Master-i386.gz available from
>. About two dozen
>groups of packages are defined in
>.
>
>Question: Is there a file showing packages grouped under those two
>dozen group headings? If not, what is the point of the
>'packages.html' file?

dselect shows packages sorted by these groups, as (I believe) will most
of the various apt frontends like console-apt and aptitude.
Alternatively, you could install the grep-dctrl package and use its
extensive searching facilities to produce lists.

Um, you can also see the packages in each group linked from the page you
mention, e.g. http://packages.debian.org/stable/admin/> - or is
that not what you meant?

-- 
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Re: eth between two computers

[Matthias Schulz]

Am Sonntag, 17. Dezember 2000 11:29 schrieb Bill Jonas:
> On Sun, Dec 17, 2000 at 10:45:52AM -0600, Matthias Schulz wrote:
> > Anyone else a tip for me?
>
> You don't need to run the route commands for this.
>
> The output of your route display:
> > ROOT> route
> > Kernel IP routing table
> > Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse
> > Iface 192.168.0.0 *   255.255.255.0   U 0  0 
> >   0 eth0
>
> Note the Detination column.  This, combined with the Genmask column, means
> that this row is for IP traffic for 192.168.0.anything.  The '*' in the
> Gateway column means that no gateway is needed, that this is just a local
I thought so, but I was not sure.
> interface.  (You see which one, of course, in the Iface column.)  Have you
> tried running your program yet?  You said you could ping one computer from
> the other, so I suspect all is well.
Yes I can ping them, but not telnet nor nfs-mount bring anything back. They 
are just stuck. The strange thing is, over plip everything worked fine (and 
still does).

> If you don't want to refer to the machines by numbers, stick a couple of
> lines in your /etc/hosts file on each host:
> 192.168.0.1   machine1
> 192.168.0.3   machine2

Yes, I did.

Matth

Re: installing pine

[ktb]

On Sun, Dec 17, 2000 at 01:12:27PM -0800, Dwight Johnson wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Dec 2000, ktb wrote:
> 
> >   You might want to try mutt.  I like it a lot better.  It
> > took some configuring but it isn't as clunky as pine.
> 
> I have recently been trying mutt and, quite honestly, I have find mutt a
> lot clunkier than Pine.
> 
> One example: when you call up Pine for the first time in any home
> directory, Pine creates a default .pinerc and it is extremely easy to
> customize Pine from the Pine master menu.
> 
> In contrast, with mutt, no .muttrc is created automatically on first use
> and evidently there exists no easy to use configuration program (at least I
> have been unable to find one) as there is in Pine. It took me an hour of
> wading through documentation to figure out how to just get my 'From:'
> header to display my e-mail address. Apparently, I must do the same for
> each item of customization I want in mutt.
> 
> Another example: control and navigation keys are clearly displayed at the
> bottom of each Pine screen. For the equivalent functionality in mutt, I
> must press '?' and wade through a gadzillion keys displayed over multiple
> screens.
> 
> I would gladly convert to mutt from Pine just to get a more pure open
> source license. But, in my opinion, the clunkiness of mutt makes such a
> conversion quite formidable when I must still read my e-mail each day.
> 
> So I am very surprised to hear you say that you think Pine is clunkier than
> mutt. I would welcome learning in what ways.
> 
> 
As I said above it takes some configuring.  It isn't easy to
learn.  Pine is.  As with most unix programs and the os itself
some have easy installation and configuration and others don't.
When I said "clunky" I was referring to usage not installation
and configuration.  It took me a day to get mutt set up how I
liked.  It took a couple more before I became comfortable with
using the program itself.

If your serious about wanting to use mutt just set the directory
mutt uses to pick up mail as a symbolic link to pine's mail
directory.  In other words create the link "Mail" (mutt) pointing to
"mail" (pine) in your home directory.  Doing this allows you to use
both mailers with the same mail.  That way you can ease into
mutt and still use pine until you become comfortable with it.
kent

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Re: IRQ: how to find out which is to be used?

[kmself]

on Sun, Dec 17, 2000 at 03:25:56AM -0800, Erik Steffl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>   I have internal modem (real one, it works, the question is not about
> it and I know I should get external one:-) which acts as a serial port.
> It is ISA PnP card, can use different IRQs.

Try:  http://linuxmafia.com/pub/hardware/chart.txt

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Re: Can you play sounds over the net in Potato?

[kmself]

on Sun, Dec 17, 2000 at 01:19:18PM +, Anthony Campbell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
> Various sites offer you the option to play sound over the net but all
> require you to have some software to enable this.  I followed some links
> for this in Linux Debian but they were all for Woody, which I don't want
> to upgrade to yet.
> 
> Is there anything available for Potato?

This is a question which requires a case-by-case answer.  

  - Primitive file formats (e.g.:  *.au, *.wav), can be handled through
the 'play' command (sox package).

  - *.ra and *.ram are played by the proprietary RealPlayer player,
there's a Debian wrapper package but you have to download the
program yourself.

  - Flash is supported with the Shockwave Flash plugin for Netscape,
Mozilla, etc.  Think twice before accepting it -- there's a hell of
a lot of Flash abuse on the Net right now.

  - Some movie formats play with xanim, though this is primitive.
There's an xmms plugin for handling several other formats.  

  - Quicktime and Windows Media Player formats don't currently play
under GNU/Linux natively, though you might check with Wine
emulation.

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Re: exim configuration--maildir-NFS

[Jesse Goerz]

On Sunday 17 December 2000 14:08, Phil Brutsche wrote:
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> A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said...
>
> > I have the same issues.  I plan on using NFS and exporting my home
> > directory. Will this be a problem just using the default options that
> > IMAP installs with?  I have already sucessfully installed exim, imap, and
> > fetchmail. Everything seems to work fine from the winbox.  I haven't
> > tested it from my Debian box yet because I wanted to get the mail up
> > before I started messing with NFS.  Should I consider using the maildir
> > format?
>
> If everything works great now, no.
>
> > And if so, what are the reasons?
>
> maildir is mostly of interest when you want to export the mail spool over
> NFS - NFS has poor file locking capabilities, and the single-file mbox
> mail spools can get easily corrupted in situations where many programs are
> trying to perform operations on the user's main main mail spool (and the
> user mailboxes under ~/mail/) at once.
>
> I switched to maildir because I wanted to access my mail spool over NFS,
> and I felt I couldn't safely do that if I wasn't using maildirs.
>
> Keep in mind, though, that if you do switch to maildir, you'll need to
> replace the imap package with the courier-imap package.

Great explanation.  I asked the same question on my local LUG mailing list 
and got a dissertation on the benefits/problems of NFS.  Thank you very much. 

Does using IMAP (this is the potato package called imap) mean I won't have 
the ability to have multiple folders?  The reason I'm asking is I read the 
following in /usr/share/doc/exim/README.Debian:

The following is an example of what you can do with .forward files in exim;
you might find it useful. It matches any of the debian mailing lists and
saves mails from them in appropriate mailboxes:
 
# Exim filter
if $h_x-mailing-list matches "^"
then seen save $home/Mail/debian/$1 endif 

I'm subscribed to several mailing lists and I'd like to keep them all 
seperate if I could (using this filter).  This appears to be a .forward 
filter which works on maildir format.  Is that a correct assumption?

Maybe a better question is this:
I'd like to be able to keep my mail on the server, filter and organize it 
into manageable directories (i.e. keep my personal email seperate from the 
lists), and access it from other workstations.  What is the "best" way to do 
this?  I'm not asking for "the" way just "a" way I can accomplish it with 
minimal fuss.  I want to keep my email and important documents on the server 
as I do (destructive) testing on my workstation frequently, which in turn 
needs to be documented.


TIA,
Jesse

P.S.  I have already learned a great deal from this list and I'd like to 
thank anyone who takes the time to answer these.  Especially you Phil.
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new signals?

[Glenn Becker]

Hi All,

I am working my way through some tutorial materials on the Unix/Linux
environment, and happened to type 

kill -l

in bash. I got a list of SIGs that was -- I believe -- significantly
different from and longer than the list I saw the *last* time I did
this. Specifically, there are a whole lot of new signals called SIGRTMAX
and SIGRTMIN (each one has a + or - value attached to it, up to a value of
+ or - 15 ...). I don't recall these being there before. A new bash
feature?

I can't find any mention of these in the list archive nor in my default
text ... can anyone shed light on these? 

Thx,

Glenn

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Previous versions of woody .debs

[Andy]

I had a bit of a disaster lately, and when restoring the system using my
local woody mirror, I found that I didnt have pan_0.8.0 which I had previously.

If I install from the main mirror I find pan_0.9.1 which has dependencies on
gnome & X which my hardware wont support.

I have the relevant gnome debs for pan_0.8.0 so upgrading that far isnt a
problem, but I cannot find pan_0.8.0 anywhere.

Are previous versions of debs in woody kept anywhere? In this case I have
not set apt-move or apt-get to delete old versions, probably just some other
stupidity which has lost me the file. An archive of old versions would help
those who have though!

Any info will be gratefully received.

Andy Griffiths

Re: PSM for mozilla as .deb?

[Tibor D.]

Andreas Reuleaux wrote:


Hi,

I just installed the mozilla (M18) pkg on a fresh Debian 2.2r2 box.

One has to install PSM (Personal Security Manager, see Mozilla homepage) 


I would expect such a package in the non-free area of debian,
can any of the netscape packages there be used as a replacemant?


I would like debs too, but I didn't found them yet. And for 10 days, 
mozilla0.6 is out, but... no debs yet. I installed both M18 (.deb) and 
0.6, and "installed" the PSM-Package (the download was btw. very fast, 
maybe 1 or two minutes?).
But I have that sideeffect, that SSL-pages work only when I'm running 
the browsers as root. When loading SSL-Pages as user, the browser 
crashes. And with mozilla0.6 I'm unhappy too, because I can't enter an 
URL by hand! I have to open a second, "new navigator window".

I just hope, we don't have to wait long for a final, stable release.

Sound only as root ?

[Michael Meding]

Hi all,

on my recent woody I only get sound when running as root (either running 
completely as root or su ing into root from a normal user under x will give 
me sound output).

So I guess this is a standard feature of debian. How to change that ?

TIA

Michael Meding

Re: Sound only as root ?

[John Griffiths]

>on my recent woody I only get sound when running as root (either running 
>completely as root or su ing into root from a normal user under x will give 
>me sound output).

#adduser michael audio

should fix it

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Re: recent archives?

[will trillich]

On Sun, Dec 17, 2000 at 09:44:52AM -0800, Xucaen wrote:
> > Search the recent archives.  ;)
> 
> does anyone have the address of the archives?

there are several places online that archive e-lists
such as debian-user -- my favorite is

http://www.geocrawler.com/

as of a moment ago, debian-user is the busiest on
the site! (and their archives are quite frequently
updated, so i've never found them to be more than
an hour behind-the-times!)

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Re: exim configuration--maildir-NFS

[Phil Brutsche]

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A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said...

> Great explanation.  I asked the same question on my local LUG mailing list
> and got a dissertation on the benefits/problems of NFS.  Thank you very much.

You're welcome :)

> Does using IMAP (this is the potato package called imap) mean I won't have
> the ability to have multiple folders?  The reason I'm asking is I read the
> following in /usr/share/doc/exim/README.Debian:

Actually, you will have that ability.

> The following is an example of what you can do with .forward files in exim;
> you might find it useful. It matches any of the debian mailing lists and
> saves mails from them in appropriate mailboxes:
>
> # Exim filter
> if $h_x-mailing-list matches "^"
> then seen save $home/Mail/debian/$1 endif
>
> I'm subscribed to several mailing lists and I'd like to keep them all
> seperate if I could (using this filter).  This appears to be a .forward
> filter which works on maildir format.  Is that a correct assumption?

Actually, this example won't work on a maildir - it will put each mail in
a single file.  The filter is easier to read like this:

# Exim filter
if $h_x-mailing-list matches "^"
then
   seen
   save $home/Mail/debian/$1
endif

With this filter, all mail messages from debian-user will go into the
folder $home/Mail/debian/user; all messages from debian-security-announce
will go to $home/Mail/debian/security-announce, and so on.

If you wanted to make that a maildir, the filter should look like this:

# Exim filter
if $h_x-mailing-list matches "^"
then
   seen
   save $home/Maildir/debian/$1/
endif

Or something like that.

> Maybe a better question is this:
> I'd like to be able to keep my mail on the server, filter and organize it
> into manageable directories (i.e. keep my personal email seperate from the
> lists), and access it from other workstations.  What is the "best" way to do
> this?

You're doing fine so far :)

> I'm not asking for "the" way just "a" way I can accomplish it with
> minimal fuss.  I want to keep my email and important documents on the
> server as I do (destructive) testing on my workstation frequently,
> which in turn needs to be documented.

*One* of the ways to do this is to keep all your mail on a centralized
server (it doesn't matter whether it's via IMAP or NFS), as well as your
documentation, and maybe even your home directory.  Which is precisely
what you're doing now :)

> P.S.  I have already learned a great deal from this list and I'd like to
> thank anyone who takes the time to answer these.  Especially you Phil.

Hey, no problem.  That's what we try to be here for :)

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Re: Sound only as root ?

[Michael Meding]

Hi,

thanks for the fast response.

> >on my recent woody I only get sound when running as root (either running
> >completely as root or su ing into root from a normal user under x will
> > give me sound output).
>
> #adduser michael audio
>
> should fix it

That did the trick.

Greetings

Michael Meding

Re: The lazy-"E"-character affair

[will trillich]

On Sat, Dec 16, 2000 at 08:23:48PM +0100, paolo massei wrote:
> I'm running a pure potato flavour of debian2.2 updated with the
> 'official' package r2 in debian sites, under "stable" version.
> 
> The problem is that when I type the "E" letter in "vi" insert mode,
> I have a two or three second delay between typing and appairing
> of lazy "E" on my monitor.
> 
> This strange phenomenon appairs also if I run the pure 'elvis' command,
> without wrappers or other options.
> It appears in: console, Xterm, gnome-terminal (I hate Eterm ;)) but
> NOT appens in 'elvis X11' under Xfree in the debian menu.
> 
> It happens *only* with "E" character.

for a bit-o-clue, try inserting

E
then
S
and finally
C


apparently elvis expects to be working with some odd or archaic
(or plain obtuse) terminal emulators that might send the
sequence E-S-C instead of \033 [ascii 27 == escape character].
on my ssh client, when i press my UP-ARROW key, it sends OA
which elvis properly interprets as 'go up one line' just as if
i'd typed 'k'.


try inserting the string
ESCOA
and see if it moves your cursor, or
ESCOm
and see if it inserts a newline [keypad ENTER = Om
on my client/terminal emulator].

to see which sequences your keys send, get into INSERT mode,
then type CONTROL-V, then press a fancy key (home, down, page
up, keypad 5, etc). voila!

i had the same problem, and learned to live with it -- until i
switched to VIM and now everything is all sparkly and
sunshiny...

clear-off-hard-drive
apt-get install vim

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Re: everything except for ping in IPmasq

[will trillich]

On Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 10:17:02PM -0800, Nate Amsden wrote:
> David Purton wrote:
> > 
> > Hi I've sort of got ip masqerading working now, in that I can browse the
> > web, ssh and ftp, etc from masqed machines, but ping does not work :(
> > 
> > this was a hassle beacause I was using ping to test and it took me some
> > time to realise that anything was happening at all.
> > 
> > when I ping an internet ip address from a masqed machine, the requests
> > time out (even with long timeouts)
> > 
> > tracert gets as far as the gateway (192.168.0.1) before everything else
> > times out.
> > 
> > the masqed machine is a win95 box.
> > 
> > any ideas?
> 
> be sure ICMP masq is enabled in the kernel config.

well i thought i'd help out the newbies by translating
"kernel config" to an actual file name or program name, but i
ran into the wall again--

> locate config | wc -l
3026
> locate config | grep kernel | wc -l
2267

i tried modconf, but under ipv4 drivers i only saw

ip_gre+ IP: GRE tunnels over IP
ip_masq_autofw- IP: ipautofw masquerade support (Experimental)
ip_masq_cuseeme   - (No description available)
ip_masq_ftp   + (No description available)
ip_masq_irc   - (No description available)
ip_masq_mfw   - IP: ipmarkfw masquerade support
ip_masq_portfw- IP: ipportfw masquerade support
ip_masq_quake - (No description available)
ip_masq_raudio- (No description available)
ip_masq_user  + (No description available)
ip_masq_vdolive   - (No description available)
ipip  - IP: tunneling
rarp  - Reverse ARP server

similar in function or name, but not quite what the doctor
ordered, eh?

aha! there's a text file /boot/config-`uname -r` (i.e. your
kernel version will be appended to the name of the config file)
that will show what options are set in the current kernel you're
running: so, just

grep ICMP /boot/config-`uname -r`

to find what options are set for ICMP. in my kernel config,
there was only one line.

there y'are!

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Re: new signals?

[Eric G . Miller]

On Sun, Dec 17, 2000 at 06:26:12PM -0500, Glenn Becker wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I am working my way through some tutorial materials on the Unix/Linux
> environment, and happened to type 
> 
> kill -l
> 
> in bash. I got a list of SIGs that was -- I believe -- significantly
> different from and longer than the list I saw the *last* time I did
> this. Specifically, there are a whole lot of new signals called SIGRTMAX
> and SIGRTMIN (each one has a + or - value attached to it, up to a value of
> + or - 15 ...). I don't recall these being there before. A new bash
> feature?
> 
> I can't find any mention of these in the list archive nor in my default
> text ... can anyone shed light on these? 

Think they're related to the real time clock ???

/usr/include/bits/signum.h

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Re: Sound only as root ?

[Nate Amsden]

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would.
i'd suggest removing such notices from your mail or subscribe using
another
account.

i think i can speak for the mailing list archive software that it will
not
attempt to get permission to post your emails on web sites.

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Re: Sound only as root ?

[John Griffiths]

>
>ahem. although i personally don't care either way im sure some people
>would.
>i'd suggest removing such notices from your mail or subscribe using
>another
>account.
>
>i think i can speak for the mailing list archive software that it will
>not
>attempt to get permission to post your emails on web sites.
>
>nate

Crud.. Apologies to all

i have to have the damm thing on by default and forget sometimes,

which i realise is not acceptable and i will try harder in future

Re: installing pine

[Brad Keryan]

On Sun, 17 Dec 2000, Xucaen wrote:

> Hi all... curious.. I'm trying to install pine
> via apt-get but it tells me package found but
> can't be installed..  I don't have the exact
> error message (it was late.  ;-).
> has anyone else been able to install pine?

Yes. Install pine4-diffs and everything that it recommends, then follow
the instructions from the README in /usr/src/pine4. Pine is distributed as
source only due to license restrictions. Type "apt-cache show pine4-diffs"
to see what other packages it recommends.

Brad