Re: X4 and DRI

[John]

Im using a voodoo5 5500.

I think i have seen this mentioned elsewhere, the problem is the dri kernel 
module is
a different version from what the X server expects . A bit like mixing kernel 
modules
with a different kernel :).
I started playing with X4, shortly before they came into woody so i have the X 
server
sources and compile my own from the source. Im not sure if they are included in 
debs
??.

The place to check out would be dri.sourceforge.net follow the links you will 
find
some mail lists.


cheers

Lee Elliott wrote:

> Hello List,
>
> I've recently upgraded to X4 and I'm having problems with DRI.
> I'm using a Matrox G400 and a 2.4.0-test5(from the woody .deb) kernel.
>
> With the mesag3 package from woody installed, glxinfo shows direct
> rendering is enabled but if I run some of the GL xscreensavers i.e.
> superquadrics and lament, they appear to be using s/w rendering.  This
> is in comparison to the old 3.3.6 + utah_glx combination which was much
> faster and appeared to give higher quality too.
>
> If I replace mesag3 with xlibmesa3, glxinfo shows that direct rendering
> is not enabled but the screensavers run the same as with mesag3.
>
> In /var/log/XFree86.0.log I found the line:-
>
> (EE) MGA(0): [drm] MGADRIScreenInit failed (DRM version = 1.0.0,
> expected 2.0.x).  Disabling DRI.
>
> which looks like it might be the cause of the problem but if so, what do
> I do about it?
>
> TIA
>
> LeeE
>
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Re: installing netscape

[John Galt]

Neither navigator nor communicator are part of Debian proper, so won't be
on the CDs--they're not DFSG free, so are in the non-free section
(which is not officially supported by or officially part of Debian).  Some
vendors include a non-free CD, but a good portion do not.  Once you set up
apt for ftp/http, assuming you answered the non-free question in setup so
that you could get non-free, just apt-get it.

On Thu, 16 Nov 2000, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:

> Hi!
> 
> >If you want Netscape 4, do "apt-get install navigator".  The navigator 
> >package
> >is a meta package that depends on all the real netscape packages.
> 
> Does this apply to the potato CD? I intended to install Netscape, but I
> only found Netscape3 in the CD and I didn't find any "Communicator". Does
> navigator exist in the potato CD? 
> 
> Thanks in advance!!
> 
> 
> Marcelo
> _
> Marcelo Chiapparini
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

-- 
There is an old saying that if a million monkeys typed on a million 
keyboards for a million years, eventually all the works of Shakespeare
would be produced.   Now, thanks to Usenet, we know this is not true.

Who is John Galt?  [EMAIL PROTECTED], that's who!

Re: installing netscape

[John Galt]

It was unofficial: netscape's non-free.

On Thu, 16 Nov 2000, Sebastiaan wrote:

> Hello,
> I have installed netscape, though I cannot remember if it was from the
> official cd or from an unofficial one. You can also try to install the
> package communicator-smotif-473 or navigator-smotif-473.
> 
> 
> Greetings,
> Sebastiaan
> 
> 
> On Thu, 16 Nov 2000, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:
> 
> > Hi!
> > 
> > >If you want Netscape 4, do "apt-get install navigator".  The navigator 
> > >package
> > >is a meta package that depends on all the real netscape packages.
> > 
> > Does this apply to the potato CD? I intended to install Netscape, but I
> > only found Netscape3 in the CD and I didn't find any "Communicator". Does
> > navigator exist in the potato CD? 
> > 
> > Thanks in advance!!
> > 
> > 
> > Marcelo
> > _
> > Marcelo Chiapparini
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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> > 
> 
> 
> 

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There is an old saying that if a million monkeys typed on a million 
keyboards for a million years, eventually all the works of Shakespeare
would be produced.   Now, thanks to Usenet, we know this is not true.

Who is John Galt?  [EMAIL PROTECTED], that's who!

pci network configuration

[李威儒]

Hi! I have a potato box with dlink dfe 530 tx.
I recompile my kernel with via-rhine driver bulit-in.
And next?
 
$cat /proc/pci
I found
Bus 0, device 14, function 0:
Ethernet controller: VIA Technologies Unknown device (rev 66). 
Vendor id=1106. Device id=3065
Medium devsel.  IRQ 11.  Master Capable.  Latency=64.  Min Gnt=3.Max
Lat=8.
$cat /etc/network/interfaces

auto eth0 lo
iface lo inet loopback
iface eth0 inet static
  address 10.XXX.XXX.XXX
  netmask 255.255.255.0

$ifup eth0 
/etc/network/interfaces: option without interface # WHY???

 I don't know why.  Thanks

Creating Debian image for installfests

[Jesse Goerz]

Our local LUG is doing installfests once a month and it seems I'm the only 
Debian user in the whole bunch (the damn heretics!;-)

I would like to get some advice on this:

I'm trying to create a bare bones system with all the things a new Linux user 
would be semi-familiar with.  (i.e. Netscape, KDE2 desktop, etc.) Is it 
possible to install the above on a machine, and then do:

dpkg --get-selections

>From that output, create a cdrom which is a Debian install CD with only those 
packages?

What I'm getting at is basically a Debian 2.2r0 binary 1 disc with all the 
stuff I wouldn't be using stripped out and the extras added in (like 
netscape, kde2, etc.)  I could then just burn a whole bunch and just give 
them to the folks (licensing issues for stuff that may fall into non-free?).  
I've already created an apt-getable cd-rom with the kde2 stuff so I 
understand how to do that.  What I'm having difficulty with is what to strip 
out and what not to.  Perhaps a script to rm everything EXCEPT what is from 
dpkg --get-selections?  Is this possible?  Am I on the right track?

I really have to do this because the rpm guys in my LUG are all bragging up 
that they have kde2 already up on their systems.  (I've had it up since Ivan 
put out the first packages!  God bless apt!)  Plus I want to blow them all 
away with how easy Debian's PM is to use.   I must have converts;-)

--
Heard from a lone Debian user at his local LUG meeting:
What do you mean I have to install it in a certain order and what the hell is 
a dependency?

Re: Apt-get UPgrade today

[John Galt]

do a dist-upgrade and that should bring down the number of "not
installed"...

On Thu, 16 Nov 2000, dude wrote:

> 
> 
> Hello all.
> 
> I've Just
> Upgraded today and have noted that exactly 41 packages have not been fully
> installed or removed
> 
> The only error is get is:
> 
> /var/cache/apt/archives/xlibs_4.0.1-5_386.deb
> 
> thanks for the help
> please CC me a copy of your help directly
> 
> 
> 

-- 
There is an old saying that if a million monkeys typed on a million 
keyboards for a million years, eventually all the works of Shakespeare
would be produced.   Now, thanks to Usenet, we know this is not true.

Who is John Galt?  [EMAIL PROTECTED], that's who!

Re: installing netscape

[Arthur H. Edwards,1,505-853-6042,505-256-0834]

Re: fetchnews running automatically?

[Ekkehard Kraemer]

kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:
> 
> on Wed, Nov 15, 2000 at 04:33:27PM +, Ekkehard Kraemer ([EMAIL 
> PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > does fetchnews install some cron/anacron/etc. script which makes it
> > fetch news automatically?

> What's your crontab entry look like

Mark Brown has cleared it up - I have configured
/etc/news/leafnode/debian-config for a permanent connection, and now it
works right.

Ekkehard *makes a mental note not to forget /etc/ip-up.d next time* :-)

Re: Netscape 6.0

[Ethan Benson]

On Thu, Nov 16, 2000 at 11:29:15PM -0500, Arcady Genkin wrote:
> Greetings,
> 
> I've installed Netscape 6.0 for a friend of mine.  It looks pretty
> cool, finally the user can change displayed font size without going to
> preferences...  The ugly HTML forms' elements are gone, too.  However
> the product seems to be too slow; it looks like a lot of debugging
> stuff is still in the executable.
> 
> We encountered two problems, and I wonder if anyone could help me
> fight those.
> 
> 1.  The activation procedure.  We went throught hte registration stuff
> once, but it failed.  Then we restarted, entered the same
> username+password, and it wasn't recognizing the pair.  In the end
> Netscape gave up and just started the browser.  But now every time it
> is started anew, an activation dialog comes up (completely blank) for
> a few seconds, then dissappears, and Netscape starts.  Any ideas how
> to rerun Activation or get rid of this 15-seconds delay?

yes, remove netscape 6 and run:

apt-get update
apt-get install mozilla

mozilla is much better then netscape 6 which is just an older mozilla
snapshot with lots of AOL crap layered on top.   however mozilla is
still a bit sluggish compared to netscape 4 (mostly in the UI, the
rendering tends to be faster) 

-- 
Ethan Benson
http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/


pgp1woyTDbkW1.pgp
Description: PGP signature

softwareraid

[Manuel Hendel]

Hi,

I have to setup a machine with a sofwareraid, just a mirror. Which
tool should I use, raidtools, raidtools2 or mdutils?

I already set up the machine on one disk. I made the five partitions,
boot, root, swap, usr, var. Is it possible to mirror the whole disk
and boot from the boot partition? By the way, I got debian potato
installed.

Thanks fot any help,
Manuel

Re: quake - installation

[Philipp Schulte]

On Thu, Nov 16, 2000 at 05:29:44PM +0100, Michael Mertins wrote: 

> after installing the jdk I want to give Quake a try.
> i saw via apt-cache search quake that there's quake-3dfx available (I have
> a voodoo3-2000 running here).
> so can i just install the package and run the game by typing 'quake' ?

I don't think so. Had to install Quake for a friend and it looks like
this is just a frontend for playing an already installed version of
Quake with GNU/Linux.

But it was not hard to get Quake3 running with a Voodoo3. Send me a
mail if you want detailed instructions, because I guess this is OT.
Phil

Re: isdn timeout

[Philipp Schulte]

On Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 04:37:05AM +0100, Daniel Borgmann wrote: 

> i'm using potato and a normal isdn installation.
> i get disconnected when i'm idle for about 2 minutes.

In your /etc/isdn/device.ippp0 there should be an entry like:

isdnctrl huptimeout ${device} xxx

Set the xxx to your desired time (in seconds).
Phil

Re: softwareraid

[Alvin Oga]

hi ya manuel..

none you already have mirroring part of the kernel...

just setup /etc/raidtab  for raid1 == mirroring

http://ostenfeld.dk/~jakob/Software-RAID.HOWTO/

http://www.Linux-Consulting.com/Raid/raid1.conf
http://www.Linux-Consulting.com/Raid

you can tell it what partitions to mirror...
( i think both disks should be partitioned indentically
( on identical manufacturers drives to minimize headaches

have fun
alvin
http://www.linux-1U.net ... 1U Raid5 


On Fri, 17 Nov 2000, Manuel Hendel wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I have to setup a machine with a sofwareraid, just a mirror. Which
> tool should I use, raidtools, raidtools2 or mdutils?
> 
> I already set up the machine on one disk. I made the five partitions,
> boot, root, swap, usr, var. Is it possible to mirror the whole disk
> and boot from the boot partition? By the way, I got debian potato
> installed.
> 
> Thanks fot any help,
> Manuel
> 
> 
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Re: NEWBIE: unable to read mail (SOLVED)

[Sven Hoexter]

On Thu, Nov 16, 2000 at 04:51:36PM +0100, Sebastiaan wrote:
> Hello,
> I do not really know what I did, but I installed sendmail, hoping that
> that would solve the problem. Did not, removed sendmail, installed Postfix
> again, moved all mail from /var/mail to /var/spool/mail and removed
> /var/mail, and suddenly everything works! Magically!
Next time we'll recompile the software with the right passes ;-)))
Hm, if you used deb packets you should contact the maintainer to find a
sollution.

Cu,
Sven

Re: softwareraid

[Manuel Hendel]

Thanks for the first time. that's what I wanted. But is it possible to
boot than from the mirror. How does this funktion?

Thanks, 
Manuel

> hi ya manuel..
> 
> none you already have mirroring part of the kernel...
> 
> just setup /etc/raidtab  for raid1 == mirroring
> 
>   http://ostenfeld.dk/~jakob/Software-RAID.HOWTO/
> 
>   http://www.Linux-Consulting.com/Raid/raid1.conf
>   http://www.Linux-Consulting.com/Raid
> 
> you can tell it what partitions to mirror...
> ( i think both disks should be partitioned indentically
> ( on identical manufacturers drives to minimize headaches
> 
> have fun
> alvin
> http://www.linux-1U.net ... 1U Raid5 
> 
> 
> On Fri, 17 Nov 2000, Manuel Hendel wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I have to setup a machine with a sofwareraid, just a mirror. Which
> > tool should I use, raidtools, raidtools2 or mdutils?
> > 
> > I already set up the machine on one disk. I made the five partitions,
> > boot, root, swap, usr, var. Is it possible to mirror the whole disk
> > and boot from the boot partition? By the way, I got debian potato
> > installed.
> > 
> > Thanks fot any help,
> > Manuel

Re: softwareraid

[Alvin Oga]

hi ya manuel..

sounds like you want a "root-boot mirror"...not just mirroring..
which is trickier...
- i say just run lilo on the mirrored disk...
  each time you change the booting thingies
  ( kernels, lilo, etc )
- than it should boot if you do get to hdb instead of hda
- why make it complicated ???

if / or the / partition dies...you've got bigger problems
than just mirroring anyway.mirroring wont hide the source/cause
of the problems...

c ya
alvin

On Fri, 17 Nov 2000, Manuel Hendel wrote:

> Thanks for the first time. that's what I wanted. But is it possible to
> boot than from the mirror. How does this funktion?
> 
> Thanks, 
> Manuel
> 
> > hi ya manuel..
> > 
> > none you already have mirroring part of the kernel...
> > 
> > just setup /etc/raidtab  for raid1 == mirroring
> > 
> > http://ostenfeld.dk/~jakob/Software-RAID.HOWTO/
> > 
> > http://www.Linux-Consulting.com/Raid/raid1.conf
> > http://www.Linux-Consulting.com/Raid
> > 
> > you can tell it what partitions to mirror...
> > ( i think both disks should be partitioned indentically
> > ( on identical manufacturers drives to minimize headaches
> > 
> > have fun
> > alvin
> > http://www.linux-1U.net ... 1U Raid5 
> > 
> > 
> > On Fri, 17 Nov 2000, Manuel Hendel wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > I have to setup a machine with a sofwareraid, just a mirror. Which
> > > tool should I use, raidtools, raidtools2 or mdutils?
> > > 
> > > I already set up the machine on one disk. I made the five partitions,
> > > boot, root, swap, usr, var. Is it possible to mirror the whole disk
> > > and boot from the boot partition? By the way, I got debian potato
> > > installed.
> > > 
> > > Thanks fot any help,
> > > Manuel
> 
> 
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Re: softwareraid

[Manuel Hendel]

I gonna try that. I'll tell you the results.

Thanks,
Manuel
> 
> 
> hi ya manuel..
> 
> sounds like you want a "root-boot mirror"...not just mirroring..
> which is trickier...
>   - i say just run lilo on the mirrored disk...
> each time you change the booting thingies
> ( kernels, lilo, etc )
>   - than it should boot if you do get to hdb instead of hda
>   - why make it complicated ???
> 
> if / or the / partition dies...you've got bigger problems
> than just mirroring anyway.mirroring wont hide the source/cause
> of the problems...
> 
> c ya
> alvin
> 
> On Fri, 17 Nov 2000, Manuel Hendel wrote:
> 
> > Thanks for the first time. that's what I wanted. But is it possible to
> > boot than from the mirror. How does this funktion?
> > 
> > Thanks, 
> > Manuel
> > 
> > > hi ya manuel..
> > > 
> > > none you already have mirroring part of the kernel...
> > > 
> > > just setup /etc/raidtab  for raid1 == mirroring
> > > 
> > >   http://ostenfeld.dk/~jakob/Software-RAID.HOWTO/
> > > 
> > >   http://www.Linux-Consulting.com/Raid/raid1.conf
> > >   http://www.Linux-Consulting.com/Raid
> > > 
> > > you can tell it what partitions to mirror...
> > > ( i think both disks should be partitioned indentically
> > > ( on identical manufacturers drives to minimize headaches
> > > 
> > > have fun
> > > alvin
> > > http://www.linux-1U.net ... 1U Raid5 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Fri, 17 Nov 2000, Manuel Hendel wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Hi,
> > > > 
> > > > I have to setup a machine with a sofwareraid, just a mirror. Which
> > > > tool should I use, raidtools, raidtools2 or mdutils?
> > > > 
> > > > I already set up the machine on one disk. I made the five partitions,
> > > > boot, root, swap, usr, var. Is it possible to mirror the whole disk
> > > > and boot from the boot partition? By the way, I got debian potato
> > > > installed.
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks fot any help,
> > > > Manuel
> > 
> > 
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> > 
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VALinux box -> NT4 -> Debian emergency!

[Rory Campbell-Lange]

Hi.
I've an urgent question, and I'd be most grateful if anyone with an answer
or advice would reply to me directly, as I only receive the digest for the
debian-user list.

I'm trying to propel my office which currently uses NT4 servers to serve
Mac workstations, to Linux servers. We need a new box and I've contacted
VALinux in the UK to spec one of these out. We have to have a box by the
end of next week!

A small complication as that we need to practise installing NT4 onto the
new server as we have a completely new IT support department who don't have
much experience in this area. I'd like to get the VALinux box, possibly
take out the hard drive/s and put in a temporary hd, install NT4, then put
back the Linux hard disks and reinstall lilo.

I'm very inexperienced with lilo, mbrs etc. I'd be grateful for any
comments on the feasibility and likely problems of the procedure I've
outline above.

Thanks for any help
Rory
--
Rory Campbell-Lange
The Campbell-Lange Workshop
London

Supporting non-english (was: Re: Quiero saber si...)

[Tomas Sanchez]

Hi Debians!

This message is cross posted to debian-devel, debian-user and Miquel who posted 
the original message.

Hi debian-devel:
>From time to time a message in a foreign (as opposed to english) language 
>lands into the deb-user list and mostly nothing happens. I think that this 
>could change if:

i) it was possible to choose language in the install process
ii) there where pointers in many languages of how to change this

regards.

Hi Debian-users:
Miquel wondered if it's possible to work entierly in spanish in Debian, since I 
can't answer his question I'm translaiting it and will translate an answer back 
to him.

Miquel wrote (my interpretation):
In short, he wonders of documentation in spanish.

regards.

Hola Miquel:

El lenguage para esta lista de e-mail es ingles. Yo he tratado de traduir tu 
pregunta. (como notas el espanol no es mi language mejor) Cuando llega una 
respuesta te la mando. Pero si sabes ingles, sera mejor si tu escribes tu 
pregunta otra ves.

saludos,
tomas

On Thu, Nov 16, 2000 at 06:36:55PM +0100, Miquel Segovia Aparicio wrote:
> Ante todo saludos Cordiales.
> 
> Tambien si es fácil, porque hay un itinerario o guía, para inexperto y sin ni 
> Estudios Primarios.
> 
> Salut i Agro Eco Bellvitge

Re: installing netscape

[Marcelo Chiapparini]

On Thu, 16 Nov 2000 23:37:24 -0700 (MST), John Galt wrote:

>
>Neither navigator nor communicator are part of Debian proper, so won't be
>on the CDs--they're not DFSG free, so are in the non-free section
>(which is not officially supported by or officially part of Debian).  Some
>vendors include a non-free CD, but a good portion do not.  Once you set up
>apt for ftp/http, assuming you answered the non-free question in setup so
>that you could get non-free, just apt-get it.

You are right, I looked for them in the CD's and I didn't find them! So,
as soon as I get TCP/IP working in my machine I will look for them in the
ftp sites.
Thanks for all the help!

Marcelo
_
Marcelo Chiapparini
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


unable to run pppd (was wvdial)

[Marcelo Chiapparini]

Hi to all!

On Thu, 16 Nov 2000 10:17:27 -0600, Robert Guthrie wrote:

>On Thursday 16 November 2000 12:53, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:
>
>> connection. How should I define the right privileges in order to run
>> wvdial or pon from my personal account?
>> Thanks in advance!
>
>Add your personal account to the "dip" group.  
>adduser youraccount dip

I did it, but still I am not able to run pon from my personal account. I
got the following messages after pon:

/usr/bin/pon: /usr/sbin/pppd: Permission denied
/usr/bin/pon: exec:/usr/sbin/pppd: cannot execute: Permission denied

(remember that my personal account is aready a member of dip)

I wonder if it is a matter of privilege. After  ls -l /usr/bin/pon I got

-rwxr-xr-x  1 root  root 50 Nov 4 19:07 /usr/bin/pon

and after ls -l /usr/sbin/pppd I got

-rwxr-x---  1  root  dip  183504  Nov 4 19:07 /usr/sbin/pppd

Any help will be very welcome. Thanks in advance

Regards,

Marcelo
_
Marcelo Chiapparini
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


XEmacs & CPerl: DEL doesn't forward-delete?

[Ralf G. R. Bergs]

Hi there,

I'm having a hard time fighting with XEmacs and/or CPerl.

For whatever reason the DEL key deletes backwords in XEmacs, but ONLY
in CPerl mode. In the scratch buffer or in CC mode DEL works as
expected. The same is true for XTerm windows (i.e. works as expected.)

Option "Delete Key Deletes Forward" *is* active.

Any ideas?!

Thanks for your help. This is really driving me crazy!!

Ralf

what fax software do you suggest?

[Thomas Halahan]

dear deb-users,

I have a stand allone debian box with a fax modem.  I want to send 
faxes from my box (but I don't really have to recieve them). 

Q>  What software, from the debian distro, would you suggest which is 
easy to set up for sending PS files, for example.

Thanks Tom

Re: softwareraid

[Manuel Hendel]

I did all shown in the Softare-Raid-HOWTO, but it didn't work. I did
the mkraid /dev/md0 with the umounted partition /var. It aborted and
wanted me to look at the syslogs. But if the /var partition is
umounted, there's no place to log to.
What can I do now?

Thanks,
Manuel

> 
> I gonna try that. I'll tell you the results.
> 
> Thanks,
> Manuel
> > 
> > 
> > hi ya manuel..
> > 
> > sounds like you want a "root-boot mirror"...not just mirroring..
> > which is trickier...
> > - i say just run lilo on the mirrored disk...
> >   each time you change the booting thingies
> >   ( kernels, lilo, etc )
> > - than it should boot if you do get to hdb instead of hda
> > - why make it complicated ???
> > 
> > if / or the / partition dies...you've got bigger problems
> > than just mirroring anyway.mirroring wont hide the source/cause
> > of the problems...
> > 
> > c ya
> > alvin
> > 
> > On Fri, 17 Nov 2000, Manuel Hendel wrote:
> > 
> > > Thanks for the first time. that's what I wanted. But is it possible to
> > > boot than from the mirror. How does this funktion?
> > > 
> > > Thanks, 
> > > Manuel
> > > 
> > > > hi ya manuel..
> > > > 
> > > > none you already have mirroring part of the kernel...
> > > > 
> > > > just setup /etc/raidtab  for raid1 == mirroring
> > > > 
> > > > http://ostenfeld.dk/~jakob/Software-RAID.HOWTO/
> > > > 
> > > > http://www.Linux-Consulting.com/Raid/raid1.conf
> > > > http://www.Linux-Consulting.com/Raid
> > > > 
> > > > you can tell it what partitions to mirror...
> > > > ( i think both disks should be partitioned indentically
> > > > ( on identical manufacturers drives to minimize headaches
> > > > 
> > > > have fun
> > > > alvin
> > > > http://www.linux-1U.net ... 1U Raid5 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > On Fri, 17 Nov 2000, Manuel Hendel wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > > 
> > > > > I have to setup a machine with a sofwareraid, just a mirror. Which
> > > > > tool should I use, raidtools, raidtools2 or mdutils?
> > > > > 
> > > > > I already set up the machine on one disk. I made the five partitions,
> > > > > boot, root, swap, usr, var. Is it possible to mirror the whole disk
> > > > > and boot from the boot partition? By the way, I got debian potato
> > > > > installed.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thanks fot any help,
> > > > > Manuel
> > > 
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Re: Apt-get UPgrade today

[dude]

thanks ill give it a try
g


On Thu, 16 Nov 2000, John Galt wrote:

>
> do a dist-upgrade and that should bring down the number of "not
> installed"...
>
> On Thu, 16 Nov 2000, dude wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Hello all.
> >
> > I've Just
> > Upgraded today and have noted that exactly 41 packages have not been fully
> > installed or removed
> >
> > The only error is get is:
> >
> > /var/cache/apt/archives/xlibs_4.0.1-5_386.deb
> >
> > thanks for the help
> > please CC me a copy of your help directly
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> There is an old saying that if a million monkeys typed on a million
> keyboards for a million years, eventually all the works of Shakespeare
> would be produced.   Now, thanks to Usenet, we know this is not true.
>
> Who is John Galt?  [EMAIL PROTECTED], that's who!
>
>
>

bc - calculator

[Joerg Johannes]

Hi all

I have a lot of data that has to be processed, means 100 numbers having
to be divided by another 100 numbers. I did a job like this for adding
numbers to others by
bc < input-file > output-file
with input-file:
one # eg.   199+243
operation   #   198+392
per #   193-232
line#   195+3556

This was really great and saved me hours of time. The problem is now,
that I have to do the same thing with divisions, meaning 3/4 = 0.75. But
bc spits out 3/4 => 0 and 4/3 => 1. Any Idea how I can change this
behaviour to get the real results? Would save me some more hours...

thanks
joerg

Re: unable to run pppd (was wvdial)

[Ethan Benson]

On Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 09:34:08AM -0500, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:
> Hi to all!
> 
> On Thu, 16 Nov 2000 10:17:27 -0600, Robert Guthrie wrote:
> 
> >On Thursday 16 November 2000 12:53, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:
> >
> >> connection. How should I define the right privileges in order to run
> >> wvdial or pon from my personal account?
> >> Thanks in advance!
> >
> >Add your personal account to the "dip" group.  
> >adduser youraccount dip
> 
> I did it, but still I am not able to run pon from my personal account. I
> got the following messages after pon:
> 
> /usr/bin/pon: /usr/sbin/pppd: Permission denied
> /usr/bin/pon: exec:/usr/sbin/pppd: cannot execute: Permission denied
> 
> (remember that my personal account is aready a member of dip)

did you logout after adding yourself to group dip?  group membership
does not take effect until the next login.

to check run `id' or `groups' and see if dip is listed.

> I wonder if it is a matter of privilege. After  ls -l /usr/bin/pon I got
> 
> -rwxr-xr-x  1 root  root 50 Nov 4 19:07 /usr/bin/pon
> 
> and after ls -l /usr/sbin/pppd I got
> 
> -rwxr-x---  1  root  dip  183504  Nov 4 19:07 /usr/sbin/pppd
> 
> Any help will be very welcome. Thanks in advance

yup looks like you need to logout and relogin.  if you already did
that make sure your really a member of group dip, maybe something got
hosed in /etc/group or /etc/gshadow.

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Re: unable to run pppd (was wvdial)

[Marcelo Chiapparini]

Hi!

On Fri, 17 Nov 2000 03:42:48 -0900, Ethan Benson wrote:

>did you logout after adding yourself to group dip?  group membership
>does not take effect until the next login.
>

Thanks! I didn't know that I have to relogin! I will see this tonight.

Regards,

Marcelo
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Re: unable to run pppd (was wvdial)

[Ethan Benson]

/me didn't look close enough...

On Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 03:42:48AM -0900, Ethan Benson wrote:
> > and after ls -l /usr/sbin/pppd I got
> > 
> > -rwxr-x---  1  root  dip  183504  Nov 4 19:07 /usr/sbin/pppd
   ^-not suid.

that will also cause this problem, though the error above still looked
more like you were not a member of group dip...  make sure
/usr/sbin/pppd is setuid root, if not run:

chmod 4754 /usr/sbin/pppd

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Re: bc - calculator

[Christoph Simon]

On Fri, 17 Nov 2000 13:39:21 +0100
Joerg Johannes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> This was really great and saved me hours of time. The problem is now,
> that I have to do the same thing with divisions, meaning 3/4 = 0.75. But
> bc spits out 3/4 => 0 and 4/3 => 1. Any Idea how I can change this
> behaviour to get the real results? Would save me some more hours...

I don't use bc but dc. There I have to say
5 k
to get 5 digits of decimal fractions. In bc, syntaxis is different, but
probably you'll have to do something similar.

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Which processor type for Celeron?

[Anthony Campbell]

Which processor type should you chose for Celeron when compiling the
kernel? I'm using 586 - is this correct?


Anthony
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Re: Netscape 6.0

[Johann Spies]

On Thu, Nov 16, 2000 at 11:13:05PM -0900, Ethan Benson wrote:

> yes, remove netscape 6 and run:
> 
> apt-get update
> apt-get install mozilla
> 
> mozilla is much better then netscape 6 which is just an older mozilla
> snapshot with lots of AOL crap layered on top.   however mozilla is

My experience was that Mozilla M18 was not nearly as stable as
Netscape 4.75 and I removed it from my system.

Johann
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Re: subnets & 2 NICS in a mashine

[robert_wilhelm_land]

Robert wrote:

> If your problem is that name service isn't working (despite the hosts file),
> it could be that Goofy is trying to find mini and mickey on the internet,
> where they are not visible.  I suggest not using a valid internet domain.
> I'd suggest "orion.home" or something more creative.  That way, goofy has to
> fall back on it's /etc/hosts file when DNS lookups fail.  Something else to
> look at first is your /etc/resolve.conf*.  It should contain a line like
> "order hosts,bind", which tells it to look first in /etc/hosts, and then go
> to Bind for domain name resolution.   That may fix your problem with no
> further effort, but I'd still recommend making up a domain name that doesn't
> exist on the internet.
> 
> If this problem occurs when you ping by number, then it's a routing problem,
> which always makes my brain hurt (I never did learn how to set routes
> manually).


What does "bind for domain name resolution" mean? Does the mashine
want to contact a internet nameserver?

Surprising that today after boot-up GOOFY _can_ ping MINI by name, but
not MICKEY. What I didn't seem to had made clear was that all mashines
can ping each other by IP adress except MINI vs MICKEY. How can I
achive that?


Since I do not have a internet dial on demand -  I really cannot
imagine that the domane you had found would affect my home network.

Could you help me further on?


Robert

Re: DMODVERSIONS causing a lot of problems

[robert_wilhelm_land]

Colin, the make procedure fails on the command "gawk":

> 
> Change this to:
> 
> install: compile
>  mv -f $(CONF) $(CONF).old
>  gawk -f mod_conf $(CONF).old > $(CONF)   #!!!
>  echo "alias sound $(NAME)" >> $(CONF)
>  echo "alias midi $(NAME)" >> $(CONF)
>  update-modules
>  mkdir -p $(MODDIR)
>  cp -f $(NAME).o $(MODDIR)
>  -/sbin/depmod -a
>  -/sbin/rmmod $(NAME)
>  -/sbin/modprobe $(NAME)


This is the log:

MINI:~/drivers/sound/aureal# make install20
make install AUCHIP=AU8820
make[1]: Entering directory `/root/drivers/sound/aureal'
cc -D__KERNEL__  -DMODULE -DAU8820 -mpentium  -O6 -fomit-frame-pointer
-Wall -pipe -I /usr/src/linux/kernel-source-2.2.17/include   -c -o
au_audio.o au_audio.c
cc -D__KERNEL__  -DMODULE -DAU8820 -mpentium  -O6 -fomit-frame-pointer
-Wall -pipe -I /usr/src/linux/kernel-source-2.2.17/include   -c -o
au_midi.o au_midi.c
cc -D__KERNEL__  -DMODULE -DAU8820 -mpentium  -O6 -fomit-frame-pointer
-Wall -pipe -I /usr/src/linux/kernel-source-2.2.17/include   -c -o
au_core.o au_core.c
cc -D__KERNEL__  -DMODULE -DAU8820 -mpentium  -O6 -fomit-frame-pointer
-Wall -pipe -I /usr/src/linux/kernel-source-2.2.17/include   -c -o
au_sndstat.o au_sndstat.c
cc -D__KERNEL__  -DMODULE -DAU8820 -mpentium  -O6 -fomit-frame-pointer
-Wall -pipe -I /usr/src/linux/kernel-source-2.2.17/include   -c -o
au_mixer.o au_mixer.c
cc -D__KERNEL__  -DMODULE -DAU8820 -mpentium  -O6 -fomit-frame-pointer
-Wall -pipe -I /usr/src/linux/kernel-source-2.2.17/include   -c -o
au_utils.o au_utils.c
cc -D__KERNEL__  -DMODULE -DAU8820 -mpentium  -O6 -fomit-frame-pointer
-Wall -pipe -I /usr/src/linux/kernel-source-2.2.17/include   -c -o
au_vortex.o au_vortex.c
ld -m elf_i386 -r au_audio.o au_midi.o au_core.o au_sndstat.o
au_mixer.o au_utils.o au_vortex.o asp20.o -o au8820.o
mv -f /etc/modutils/aliases /etc/modutils/aliases.old
gawk -f mod_conf /etc/modutils/aliases.old > /etc/modutils/aliases
/bin/sh: gawk: command not found
make[1]: *** [install] Error 127
make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/drivers/sound/aureal'
make: *** [install20] Error 2

Which looks at least better than the old one.


Guessing "gawk" is a tool and "man gawk" failed - I tried a "apt-cache
search gawk" which returned the package:

dpkg-awk

..which I then installed from CD#1 - but it didn't help in the make
process, neither has a gawk manpage been installed.

Could you give me a hint?


Besides, emacs causes some difficulties:
I edited the makefile first and closed emacs. Then I realized that I
had missed something and opened the same makefile with emacs again.
Any editing command failed with a beep and a remark buffer read-only.
What had happened?
At the end only vi helped - puh... what a difficult editor to use...



Robert

Re: bc - calculator

[Colin Watson]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>This was really great and saved me hours of time. The problem is now,
>that I have to do the same thing with divisions, meaning 3/4 = 0.75. But
>bc spits out 3/4 => 0 and 4/3 => 1. Any Idea how I can change this
>behaviour to get the real results? Would save me some more hours...

You can use a command like 'scale=2' to bc to tell it to give you two
decimal places for floating-point arithmetic. So:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ bc --quiet
scale=2
3/4
.75
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ 

HTH,

-- 
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Re: bc - calculator

[Sebastian Canagaratna]

Hi:
  Re using bc.

  Start bc.

  then type scale=5  ( for five decimal places for example)
  Then you can do your divisions.

  Hope this helps.

  Sebastian Canagaratna
  Department of Chemistry
  Ohio Northern University
  Ada, OH 45810

Re: bc - calculator

[Mario Olimpio de Menezes]

On Fri, 17 Nov 2000, Christoph Simon wrote:

> On Fri, 17 Nov 2000 13:39:21 +0100
> Joerg Johannes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > This was really great and saved me hours of time. The problem is now,
> > that I have to do the same thing with divisions, meaning 3/4 = 0.75. But
> > bc spits out 3/4 => 0 and 4/3 => 1. Any Idea how I can change this
> > behaviour to get the real results? Would save me some more hours...
> 
> I don't use bc but dc. There I have to say
> 5 k
> to get 5 digits of decimal fractions. In bc, syntaxis is different, but
> probably you'll have to do something similar.


in bc use scale = 5 to get 5 digits after decimal point. check bc(1) for
more details and examples

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Re: Netscape 6.0

[Ethan Benson]

On Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 01:57:39PM +0200, Johann Spies wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 16, 2000 at 11:13:05PM -0900, Ethan Benson wrote:
> 
> > yes, remove netscape 6 and run:
> > 
> > apt-get update
> > apt-get install mozilla
> > 
> > mozilla is much better then netscape 6 which is just an older mozilla
> > snapshot with lots of AOL crap layered on top.   however mozilla is
> 
> My experience was that Mozilla M18 was not nearly as stable as
> Netscape 4.75 and I removed it from my system.

i have found its certainly more of a pig, and its interface is very
sluggish, it does tend to be less stable too, but only for certain
sites.  i think for most people sticking with netscape 4.75 is
probably the best thing for now.

having said that, netscape 6 is still far worse then mozilla, don't be
fooled by AOL/Netscape calling it `final gold release'.

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Creative Soundblaster PCI238 and kernel

[Anthony Campbell]

I have Creative Soundblaster Audio PCI238 sound card.

I can't see this in the menu for the current kernel.

Amyone know which entry to use?

Anthony
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Free translation: "Holdfast is your only dog."

Re: Which processor type for Celeron?

[Ethan Benson]

On Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 12:56:54PM +, Anthony Campbell wrote:
> Which processor type should you chose for Celeron when compiling the
> kernel? I'm using 586 - is this correct?

if its a recent celeron you can use 686, thats what i have been using
without problems:

  4:21am  up 158 days, 30 min, 13 users,  load average: 1.03, 1.01, 1.04

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Re: DMODVERSIONS causing a lot of problems

[Colin Watson]

On Fri, 17 Nov 2000 at 12:40:27 +0100, robert_wilhelm_land wrote:
> This is the log:
> 
> MINI:~/drivers/sound/aureal# make install20
> make install AUCHIP=AU8820
> make[1]: Entering directory `/root/drivers/sound/aureal'
> cc -D__KERNEL__  -DMODULE -DAU8820 -mpentium  -O6 -fomit-frame-pointer
> -Wall -pipe -I /usr/src/linux/kernel-source-2.2.17/include   -c -o
> au_audio.o au_audio.c

[snip] Looks like it's progressing nicely.

> Guessing "gawk" is a tool and "man gawk" failed - I tried a "apt-cache
> search gawk" which returned the package:
> 
> dpkg-awk

Ah, no - you want the 'gawk' package itself.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ dpkg -p gawk
Package: gawk
Priority: optional
Section: interpreters
Installed-Size: 708
Maintainer: James Troup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Architecture: i386
Version: 1:3.0.4-4
[...]

I'm not sure why 'apt-cache search gawk' didn't show that for you - it
does for me (on both potato and woody systems).

> Besides, emacs causes some difficulties:
> I edited the makefile first and closed emacs. Then I realized that I
> had missed something and opened the same makefile with emacs again.
> Any editing command failed with a beep and a remark buffer read-only.
> What had happened?

Odd. Does the user you're running emacs as have write permissions to the
file? Although admittedly then vi wouldn't work either. I don't use
emacs, so I can't really help here.

> At the end only vi helped - puh... what a difficult editor to use...

vi (well, vim, anyway) is the One True Editor. :)

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Soundblaster AWE 64: potato package update wrecked sound

[Berthold Cogel]

Hello!

I had a working sound configuration until last weekend with Debian 2.2,
Kernel 2.2.17 and Soundblaster AWE 64 Gold.  
Then I decided to update my system from potato-stable (about 32
packages/25 MB). Since the next reboot the module sb wants to use IRQ7
and sound isn't working anymore.
This happened before after I updated my system from Debian 2.1 to Debian
2.2. I did a lot of things like disabling the BIOS support for PNP
Operating Systems, building a kernel without sound, disabling isapnp,
deleting modules.conf. Just like a blind chicken looking for food :-(.
Somehow I managed to revive the sound. 
 
This time I updated only some packages. I didn't change the sound
configuration! 

base-config0.32   ->  0.33.2 
base-passwd3.1.7  ->  3.1.10 
debconf0.2.80.16  ->  0.2.80.17  
dpkg   1.6.14 ->  1.6.15 
dpkg-dev   1.6.14 ->  1.6.15 
make   3.78.1-8   ->  3.79.1-1.potato 
makedev2.3.1-44   ->  2.3.1-46.2 
modutils   2.3.11-8   ->  2.3.11-10  

Additionally I updated some XFree-3.3.6 Packages.

What the h... is going on. This is weird.
Now I`m looking for 'professional' help

Thanks in advance

Berthold Cogel

Re: Netscape 6.0

[Daniel Borgmann]

> > My experience was that Mozilla M18 was not nearly as stable as
> > Netscape 4.75 and I removed it from my system.
>
> i have found its certainly more of a pig, and its interface is very
> sluggish, it does tend to be less stable too, but only for certain
> sites.  i think for most people sticking with netscape 4.75 is
> probably the best thing for now.

the stability is ok for a beta software, but it's far too slow, cause it 
loads an entire new operating system... this may be nice, but in the moment i 
would only like to use the nice gecko engine for compatibility tests and some 
sites that can't be rendered properly with khtml.
getting used to konqueror, i don't like the slow mozilla interface any more. 
i tried galeon but it didn't fit my needs. i heared of skipstone and really 
really want to try it. but unfortunatly there is only a woody version :(
is there any way to get skipstone for a potato system?

-Daniel

> having said that, netscape 6 is still far worse then mozilla, don't be
> fooled by AOL/Netscape calling it `final gold release'.

Re: Netscape 6.0

[vijay]

At Fri, 17 Nov 2000 14:44:05 +0100 , Daniel Borgmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

>> > My experience was that Mozilla M18 was not nearly as stable as
>> > Netscape 4.75 and I removed it from my system.
>>
>> i have found its certainly more of a pig, and its interface is very
>> sluggish, it does tend to be less stable too, but only for certain
>> sites.  i think for most people sticking with netscape 4.75 is
>> probably the best thing for now.
>
>the stability is ok for a beta software, but it's far too slow, cause it 
>loads an entire new operating system... this may be nice, but in the moment i 
>would only like to use the nice gecko engine for compatibility tests and some 
>sites that can't be rendered properly with khtml.
>getting used to konqueror, i don't like the slow mozilla interface any more. 
>i tried galeon but it didn't fit my needs. i heared of skipstone and really 
>really want to try it. but unfortunatly there is only a woody version :(
>is there any way to get skipstone for a potato system?
>
>-Daniel
>
>> having said that, netscape 6 is still far worse then mozilla, don't be
>> fooled by AOL/Netscape calling it `final gold release'.
>
>
Yes netscape 6 is definitely slow. People having the bandwidth anf feeling 
adventorous may be better of downloading a recent nightly of mozilla(post M18). 
It is definitely faster and a lot stabler and gives the appearence that the 
developers are doing a good job at tweaking it. 
An even better proposition will be to use something like Galeon which uses the 
gecko rendering engine but is not as bulky as mozilla. Works great for me for 
light duty web browsing. For other work back to Netscape 4.75. :)

Vijay. 

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Re: Creative Soundblaster PCI238 and kernel

[Michael Epting]

In 2.4.0-test10, it´s Creative Ensoniq AudiioPCI 97 (ES1371).  I have
heard that some older PCI128´s might be ES1370, which is also available.

If you check the archives, you will find several people saying that you 
need the ALSA drivers to make this card work.  I can verify that it works
with ALSA, but I recently made a second stab and now have it going with
just the kernel modules.  The trick is to have only this line in 
/etc/modutils/audio: 
alias sound-slot-0 es1371

When I was using ALSA I had problems with the sound breaking up when the
CPU got busy (a 900 MHz Thunderbird, yet!), but no such problem now. 

On Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 01:21:03PM +, Anthony Campbell wrote:
> I have Creative Soundblaster Audio PCI238 sound card.
> 
> I can't see this in the menu for the current kernel.
> 
> Amyone know which entry to use?

CISCO --> debian tool(s)

[Debian Ghost]

Hey Guys,   
I was wondering if there were any debian tools used for working with Cisco
routers and/or other Cisco gear. I was thinking about things like
analytical tools and configuration tools. Mainly I am interested in
anything that is happening now and/or being developed.

Any info much appriciated!

D. Ghost

'Stable' tracks 2.2r0, 2.2r1,...?

[Monte Milanuk]

Hello,

A simple question here:

If I have a machine that is using apt-get to stay in sync
w/ the security updates and bug fixes in stable, does this
automatically keep it up w/ the latest stable version? 
i.e., my install cd's were 2.2r0.  Now 2.2r1 is out. Soon
(hopefully) 2.2r2 will be out.  Will apt-get automatically
keep up w/ the latest stable release, using the default
settings for stable in /etc/apt/sources.list, or do I need
to change something?  I would hope/think that it would, I
am just looking for a confirmation from someone who knows.


Thanks,

Monte



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Re: CISCO --> debian tool(s)

[Youri Albinovanus]

Debian Ghost wrote:

> Hey Guys,
> I was wondering if there were any debian tools used for working with Cisco
> routers and/or other Cisco gear. I was thinking about things like
> analytical tools and configuration tools. Mainly I am interested in
> anything that is happening now and/or being developed.
>
> Any info much appriciated!
>
> D. Ghost
>
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Hi,

I know that cisco has a product that work on solaris and NT, not yet on linux
but they are working on it.
Actually i use minicom to configure debug and monitor what's happening on my
ciscos and i'm really glad about it. ;o)
To monitor cisco routers and/or NAS, you can use rrdtool and mrtg to get info
about bandwith, and snmp to reconfigure the cisco on the fly (for example in
combination with lids).

youri

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Re: Re: Conexion a internet

[manurung]

please send to me again

thanks

** Original Message **

Antonio Rodriguez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
>
>
>Shortly: Thinks connects to isp with Debian 2.2 potato, modem zoltrix external 
>56k,
>
>pentium 200 ,wvdial. Netscape does not go beyond "looking"
>
>
>
>If you want wide help, write in English -si quieres amplia ayuda, escribe en 
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>> Hola, me llamo roberto y os escribi un e-mail el otro dia. Mi pregunta
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>> era y sigue siendo la siguiente:
>
>>
>
>> como me puedo conectar a internet con Linux?
>
>>
>
>> Tengo instalada la Debian 2.2 potato, un modem zoltrix externo 56k y
>
>> pentium 200 MMX.
>
>>
>
>> Lo intenté con el wvdial y parece que conecta ya que el modem hace el
>
>> ruido estridente de comprobar el ancho de banda, y luego me comprueba
>
>> el login y el password del ISP, a continuacion me pone starting pppd.
>
>> Por lo que supongo que ha conectado. Sin embargo, cuando ejecuto el
>
>> netscape no entra en ninguna pagina, solo me sale conect loking
>
>> www.direccion que le doy y ya esta no puedo entrar en ninguna pagina.
>
>>
>
>> Por favor, si alguien sabe como puedo arreglarlo mandenme un e-mail a
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Re: CISCO --> debian tool(s)

[Stephane Bortzmeyer]

On Friday 17 November 2000, at 9 h 25, the keyboard of Debian Ghost 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I was wondering if there were any debian tools used for working with Cisco
> routers and/or other Cisco gear. 

Everything is in Debian packages:

m4 (to create configuration files)
mrtg (to get stats from the boxes)
mon (to monitor the boxes)
telnet (just in case)

Re: subnets & 2 NICS in a mashine

[Stefan Janecek]

In a galaxy not too far away, robert_wilhelm_land spoke on Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 
01:31:16PM +0100:
> 
> What does "bind for domain name resolution" mean? Does the mashine
> want to contact a internet nameserver?
yes, that's exactly what it means.
> 
> Surprising that today after boot-up GOOFY _can_ ping MINI by name, but
> not MICKEY. What I didn't seem to had made clear was that all mashines
> can ping each other by IP adress except MINI vs MICKEY. How can I
> achive that?
> 
uh,uh. things start getting complicated, especially because i missed the 
beginning of the thread. from what i can figure out, your configuration
is the following:
   GOOFY
  (192.168.1.1)eth0 eth1(192.168.2.1)
/  \
   /\
(192.168.1.2) MICKEYMINI (192.168.2.2)

and on goofy your hosts file is
 #file /etc/hosts
 127.0.0.1 localhost localhost.domain
 192.168.1.1 GOOFY.ORION.DE GOOFY
 194.25.2.129 t-online.de t-online
 192.168.2.2  MINI.ORION.DE MINI
 192.168.1.2 MICKEY.ORION MICKEY

first: DONT use real (internet) domain names if you ever want to connect
your system to the internet. this will save you a lot of troubles.

- Can all machines ping each other by IP ?(that would mean IP-forwarding
  works)?

- Who can ping whom by name? thats a matter of name resolution. i noticed
  that you have
  192.168.2.2  MINI.ORION.DE MINI
  but only
  192.168.1.2 MICKEY.ORION MICKEY
  maybe thats the source for some of your problems.

- How do the /etc/hosts files of the clients (mickey, mini) look like?
  if you want them to ping each other by name you will have to do one
  of the following:
  + keep correct hosts files on every client. bad idea, esp. if you want
to attach more clients to your network.
  + serve /etc/hosts by NIS. thats what i would do for a home network.
  + install a DNS server on goofy for your domain. maybe too sophisticated
for just a few clients - except you want to learn how to run a DNS
server...

What i did not catch at all: why are you serving two clients by two NICS?
would make sense only for an exercise on 'how to configure ipforwarding'

greets,
/stefan.


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Re: Apt-get UPgrade today

[dude]

still Didnt help install xlibs which seems to be the root of the problem

g



On Thu, 16 Nov 2000, John Galt wrote:

>
> do a dist-upgrade and that should bring down the number of "not
> installed"...
>
> On Thu, 16 Nov 2000, dude wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Hello all.
> >
> > I've Just
> > Upgraded today and have noted that exactly 41 packages have not been fully
> > installed or removed
> >
> > The only error is get is:
> >
> > /var/cache/apt/archives/xlibs_4.0.1-5_386.deb
> >
> > thanks for the help
> > please CC me a copy of your help directly
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
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> keyboards for a million years, eventually all the works of Shakespeare
> would be produced.   Now, thanks to Usenet, we know this is not true.
>
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Re: Netscape 6.0

[Ekkehard Kraemer]

Daniel Borgmann wrote:
> 
> > > My experience was that Mozilla M18 was not nearly as stable as
> > > Netscape 4.75 and I removed it from my system.
> >
> > i have found its certainly more of a pig
> 
...
> i heared of skipstone and really really want to try it.

I just installed Skipstone, and it looks good (suits me better than
Galeon, at least). Apart from being leaner than Mozilla/Netscape (small
wonder, it aims to do much less), it has the one single feature which
made me pay for the Opera browser (on another well-loved OS whose name I
will not mention here :-) ).

The feature I mean is this: you can switch Skipstone to "tabbed" mode,
and all browser windows are contained in one single "real" window (read:
MDI mode). But it still gets better: if you open a link in a new window
now, the new window is opened *behind* the current window. That is, you
can open a list of links with just a few clicks, and don't need to
constantly shuffle windows around. Nice feature for people who browse
"breath-first", like me. Granted, it's only one click less then with
other browsers, but it's still nice and definitively makes the desktop
less cluttered.

Ekkehard

Re: install 2.2 with 2.2.13 kernel

[Stefan Janecek]

In a galaxy not too far away, [EMAIL PROTECTED] spoke on Fri, Nov 10, 2000 at 
04:19:32PM +0100:
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> sorry for my stupid question but how can i install debian 2.2 with the 2.2.13
> (or 2.2.15) kernel ??

apt-get install kernel-source-2.2.15
cd /usr/src
tar -xIf kernel-source-2.2.15.tar.bz2
cd kernel-source-2.2.15
make config or make menuconfig or whatever you like to configure your 
kernel with...
make-kpkg --revision yourkernel1 kernel_image
dpkg -i ../kernel-image-2.2.15_yourkernel1_i386.deb

this assumes you have make-kpkg installed(apt-get install make-kpkg)

err... you have to do the above as root. this is generally considered not to be
a good idea. if you want to be pedantic, add yourself to group src and do the 
above as you, using fakeroot for make-kpkg.

hope that helps,
/stefan.

> 
> Thanks in advance for help.
> 
> Laurent
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Re: 'Stable' tracks 2.2r0, 2.2r1,...?

[Ethan Benson]

On Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 06:31:28AM -0800, Monte Milanuk wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> A simple question here:
> 
> If I have a machine that is using apt-get to stay in sync
> w/ the security updates and bug fixes in stable, does this
> automatically keep it up w/ the latest stable version? 
> i.e., my install cd's were 2.2r0.  Now 2.2r1 is out. Soon
> (hopefully) 2.2r2 will be out.  Will apt-get automatically
> keep up w/ the latest stable release, using the default
> settings for stable in /etc/apt/sources.list, or do I need
> to change something?  I would hope/think that it would, I
> am just looking for a confirmation from someone who knows.

yes

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Re: Create an Installation CD from /var../archives

[Stefan Janecek]

In a galaxy not too far away, Robfrank spoke on Sun, Nov 12, 2000 at 12:58:30AM 
+:
> I would like to create an instalation CD from my archived packages in
> /var/cache/apt/archives.
> 
> What I have tried is to create a bootable CD with the 2.88mb recue.bin and
> include a directory of all of my .debs and base_2.2.tgz. It boots into the
> installer fine, but it breaks when it asks for kernel and modules.
> 
> How can I get the installer to install the kernel from the bootable CD and
> then install drivers?
> 
> My installation was done, initially about a year and a half ago, by modem with
> floppies and dselect. There has got to be a way to restore or recreate a 
> system by
> CD. I have tried and searched and you guys are my last resort. 
> 
have you tried the package debian-cd? its normally used to make full 
installation 
cds from a mirror, but AFAIK it allows you to select the packages that go on the
cds (via selecting tasks, i'm only using COMPLETE=1). maybe you can use it for
your purposes.

i know that's not much, but possibly it points you in the right direction.

greets,
/stefan.
> 
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apt-get dist-upgrade error

[Kevin C. Smith]

Did an apt-get dist-upgrade last night and ran into the following problem:


0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 25 not upgraded.
1 packages not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used.


Setting up debconf (0.5.01) ...
Can't locate XSLoader.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/lib/perl5 
/usr/lib/perl5/5.6/i386-linux /usr/lib/perl5/5.6 
/usr/local/lib/site_perl/i386-linux /usr/local/lib/site_perl 
/usr/lib/perl5/5.005/i386-linux /usr/lib/perl5/5.005 .) at 
/usr/lib/perl5/5.6/i386-linux/POSIX.pm line 7.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/lib/perl5/5.6/i386-linux/POSIX.pm 
line 7.
Compilation failed in require at /usr/lib/perl5/Debconf/Template.pm line 5.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/lib/perl5/Debconf/Template.pm line 5.
Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/debconf/frontend line 22.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/debconf/frontend line 22.
dpkg: error processing debconf (--configure):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2
Errors were encountered while processing:
 debconf
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

Any suggestions?

Thanks,

Kevin

Re: VALinux box -> NT4 -> Debian emergency!

[Robert Guthrie]

On Friday 17 November 2000 04:57, Rory Campbell-Lange wrote:

> A small complication as that we need to practise installing NT4 onto the
> new server as we have a completely new IT support department who don't 
Blasphemy!  ;-)

> much experience in this area. I'd like to get the VALinux box, possibly
> take out the hard drive/s and put in a temporary hd, install NT4, then put
> back the Linux hard disks and reinstall lilo.
>
> I'm very inexperienced with lilo, mbrs etc. I'd be grateful for any
> comments on the feasibility and likely problems of the procedure I've
> outline above.
I'm not going to try and tutuor you on MBR & such (there are several good 
howtos available on the web and with any standard debian installation about 
dual-booting (search for windows, NT, etc...), which go into detail about how 
OS's boot.

As for what you had in mind, sure, just pull out the drive(s), put in a new 
one, practice the dark rituals you need to, and then replace the temporary 
drive with the original(s).  Nothing else has to be done if you didn't change 
the BIOS settings (the boot manager is located on the drive).  NOTE:  as with 
any OS, if you have multiple drives, they should all be re-instlalled in 
exactly the same way they were when you took them out, or your system won't 
boot.


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RE: Netscape 6.0/konqueor

[Anderson, Tim TL33E]

On my box konqueror has been a breath of fresh air.. with the exception of
https support, which isn't there.  Anyone know if that's a KDE thing or is
it just not compiled into the packages at kde.tdyc.com?

tim

> -Original Message-
> From: Daniel Borgmann [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>getting used to konqueror, i don't like the slow mozilla interface
any more. 

Re: PHP setup with apache

[Stefan Janecek]

In a galaxy not too far away, John Griffiths spoke on Wed, Nov 15, 2000 at 
09:07:10AM +1100:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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> 
> Hello all.
> 
> I'm trying to get a Linux Apache Mysql Php (LAMP) setup going on a
> machine on my home network.
> 
> running a potato base install i've happily got Apache and Mysql
> apt-get'ed and running fine.
> 
> apt-get install php4 
> 
> runs away and does its stuff and tells me its happy and runs
> apacheconfig.
> 
> the problem is (i think) that its not putting the apache php module
> into /usr/lib/apache  (i think i sadly don't have the bits to hand)
> and so apacheconfig isn't finding it and is taking it out of the
> httpd.conf (correctly)
> 
> is there something else i should be getting/doing?

there should be a line in your /etc/apache/httpd.conf:
LoadModule php3_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/libphp3.so

and in your /etc/apache/srm.conf:
AddType application/x-httpd-php3 .php3

(as you see, i'm using php3, you will have to substitute your values for
php4)

are these lines there? what does not work? can you post some 
error messages/a description of what fails?

greets,
/stefan.
> 
> any help will be appreciated.
> 
> John
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apache problem

[Martin Würtele]

hi,

after the last woody update i have a strange problem with apache:

i can't start apache and when i look in /var/log/apache/error.log i get the
following line:
apache: dl-close.c:122: _dl_close: Assertion `new_opencount[0] == 0' failed.

any idea, what could be wrong?

tia martin

Re: Netscape 6.0

[Daniel Borgmann]

> > i heared of skipstone and really really want to try it.
>
> I just installed Skipstone, and it looks good (suits me better than
> Galeon, at least). Apart from being leaner than Mozilla/Netscape (small
> wonder, it aims to do much less), it has the one single feature which
> made me pay for the Opera browser (on another well-loved OS whose name I
> will not mention here :-) ).
>
> The feature I mean is this: you can switch Skipstone to "tabbed" mode,
> and all browser windows are contained in one single "real" window (read:
> MDI mode). But it still gets better: if you open a link in a new window
> now, the new window is opened *behind* the current window. That is, you
> can open a list of links with just a few clicks, and don't need to
> constantly shuffle windows around. Nice feature for people who browse
> "breath-first", like me. Granted, it's only one click less then with
> other browsers, but it's still nice and definitively makes the desktop
> less cluttered.

yes, that sounds really nice. but where can i get a potato package? i dont 
want to upgrade to woody, i also don't want to compile it myself, cause i 
don't like chaos on my comp ;) so anyone know a nice and clean way to install 
skipstone on potato?

Re: CISCO --> debian tool(s)

[Robert Waldner]

On Fri, 17 Nov 2000 15:47:54 +0100, Stephane Bortzmeyer writes:
>On Friday 17 November 2000, at 9 h 25, the keyboard of Debian Ghost 
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> I was wondering if there were any debian tools used for working with Cisco
>> routers and/or other Cisco gear. 
>
>Everything is in Debian packages:
>
>m4 (to create configuration files)
>mrtg (to get stats from the boxes)
>mon (to monitor the boxes)
>telnet (just in case)

and, of course, there´s rtrmon , though 
afaik not yet debian´ized, it does a great job if you have to cope with 
large numbers of routers (especially criscos).

hth,
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Problems wit ps/2 mouse

[Edwin Hoff]

I'm running debian potato on my computer. The problem is, that the
system doesn't  initialize my ps/2-mouse automatically. To get access to
the mouse i always run gpmconfig "manually" as root, after this
procedure the mouse works. Which settings are necessary to have the
mouse configured automatically.
Edwin.

Re: Debian 2.2 installer boot floppys

[Stefan Janecek]

In a galaxy not too far away, Chris Howells spoke on Wed, Nov 15, 2000 at 
09:55:25AM +:
> I have just obtained the full three CD-ROM Debian CD-ROM set. I wish to
> try it out on my old computer first, which does not have a CD-ROM drive
> capable of booting.
> 
> Therefore I must make a boot floppy.
> 
> I used rawrite to create a floppy from the image install/rescue.bin,
> which boots the machine up with syslinux, and then asks for "Insert root
> floppy disk to be loaded...". So, I made a floppy with the image of
> install/root.bin.
i hope you created it with dd/rawrite and did not just copy root.bin on 
it...
> 
> When I take the first (rescue.bin) floppy out, and put this one
> (root.bin) instead I get a 'Kernel Panic: "Unable to mount root fs…"'
> 
> I asked on #debian about this, and was told that I needed to edit the
> file syslinux.cfg on one of the floppies, yet I am unsure how to do this
> (or why even -- all I want to do is start the installer from the
> CD-ROM?). They won't mount under Linux Mandrake (on my other machine),
> to edit the file, even if I specify 
> 
> mount -t ext2 /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy
> 
i can't imagine that this is really necessary. have you tried different
floppies ? - they are an extremely unreliable medium... maybe you should
even try to d/l the image again - there could have been some error during 
downloading it.

of course you can't mount these floppys as ext2 (or any other fs) - they
just contain an image (or, in the case of root.bin, a compressed image)
of a filesystem.
if you have the loop-device compiled in your kernel, you can mount the 
images in the following way:

mount -o loop rescue.bin /mnt  

or 

mv root.bin root.bin.gz;gunzip root.bin.gz;mount -o loop root.bin /mnt

btw, syslinux.cfg is in rescue.bin ...

hope that helps,
/stefan.

> I'd be really grateful if somebody could help. I do have a fair amount
> of Linux experience (with mainly Red Hat style distros -- where it's
> just a matter of writing installer.img or similair, and making sure the
> CD-ROM is in the drive), but this has got me stumped. 
> 
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Re: Creative Soundblaster PCI238 and kernel

[Ray Percival]

opensource.creative.com
-- Original Message --
From: Michael Epting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 06:21:19 -0800

>In 2.4.0-test10, it´s Creative Ensoniq AudiioPCI 97 (ES1371).  I have
>heard that some older PCI128´s might be ES1370, which is also available.
>
>If you check the archives, you will find several people saying that you
>need the ALSA drivers to make this card work.  I can verify that it works
>with ALSA, but I recently made a second stab and now have it going with
>just the kernel modules.  The trick is to have only this line in
>/etc/modutils/audio:
>alias sound-slot-0 es1371
>
>When I was using ALSA I had problems with the sound breaking up when the
>CPU got busy (a 900 MHz Thunderbird, yet!), but no such problem now.
>
>On Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 01:21:03PM +, Anthony Campbell wrote:
>> I have Creative Soundblaster Audio PCI238 sound card.
>>
>> I can't see this in the menu for the current kernel.
>>
>> Amyone know which entry to use?
>
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Re: what fax software do you suggest?

[Jorgensen, Jens]

I like efax. It works with Class 1 modems too which is a bonus. It handles PS 
files very well and knows what to do. In fact, it relies on ghostscript to 
generate the fax image files.

Thomas Halahan wrote:

> dear deb-users,
>
> I have a stand allone debian box with a fax modem.  I want to send
> faxes from my box (but I don't really have to recieve them).
>
> Q>  What software, from the debian distro, would you suggest which is
> easy to set up for sending PS files, for example.
>
> Thanks Tom
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Re: Simple question

[Stefan Janecek]

In a galaxy not too far away, Salvador Petit Marti spoke on Thu, Nov 16, 2000 
at 09:24:48AM +0100:
> Sorry, I am a newbie in debian mailing lists...
> Is debian-user a good place to ask questions about usability/problems with 
> woody? or there is another place?. I am subscribed to debian-testing but it 
yes.
> does not appear to have any traffic...
> 
> Anyway, I am in woody cause of kde2. However, my current graphics hardware 
  ?
there is also kde2 for potato, you might want to use the following line in
/etc/apt/sources.list:
deb http://kde.tdyc.com potato kde2

greets,
/stefan.

> (ViRGE GX/2 + SMP) seems not to be supported very well by XFree 4.0. I would
> like to maintain the previous release of XFree (3.3.6) but the problems are:
> 
> 1º KDE2 _depends_ on XFree > 4.0 ¿Is this dependence correct? I kept back the 
> xserver-svga 3.3.6 and KDE2 runs fine but dselect gets crazy.
> 2º It is planned in woody to support the old version of XFree?. Now there is 
> only a xserver-common-v3 incompatible with most X packages.
> 
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Re: apt-move dain-brammage

[Robert Guthrie]

On Thursday 16 November 2000 17:13, Alson van der Meulen wrote:
> > I'm running the Potato version of this, if that matters.
>
> it does, woody as apt-move 4.x instead of 3.x shipped with potato, maybe
> that release will work, it has a quite different apt-move.conf format so i
> can't send you mine

I'll take a look at that before I post again.  One thing I figured out after 
I posted; the problem seems to be with apt-move packages.  It actually moves 
the files that are present on the remote ftp site, but the Packages.gz files 
are not created on my mirror directories if there are any .deb files present.

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Strange behavior in X

[Casey Henderson]

Hi,
  I'm getting some weird display behavior in X and I need some help.  I
do a lot of work using virtual consoles.  Quite often when I'm in a
virtual console, if I press ctrl-alt-f7 to get back to X, my screen
goes blank.  I try to go back to a virtual console by pressing
ctrl-alt-f1 (or f2 - f6) and the screen remains blank.  I have to
reboot the computer by either pressing ctrl-alt-delete (which usually
works) or by pressing the reset button or power switch.  This wouldn't
be so bad if it were a once-in-a-while thing, but it happens very
often, like more than once a day.  One of the reasons I switched to
Linux from Windoze was because I could keep it running for
days/weeks/months without having to reboot.  With this weird behavior
I'm getting, I have to reboot my computer several times a day, which
isn't much better than Windoze.  Can anybody help me out here? Thanks.

Casey

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Re: Debian 2.2 installer boot floppys

[Chris Howells]

paolo massei wrote:

>> to edit the file, even if I specify
>>
>> mount -t ext2 /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy
>
> ^^
>
> Perhaps here is the error: try with
>
> mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy
> ^^

Thanks. 'msdos' turned out, *surprisingly* to be the correct option. It
still hasn't helped me getting the distro installed, I'm afraid. :(
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System.map

[Debian Ghost]

Recently I started getting a message when I do a ps -ef | grep *something.

The message reads about my system map not matching my kernel. I recently
recompiled a kernel to include msdos support, but that is all I've done.

Anyone help with this?



[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~> ps -ef | grep netscape
{no_halt} {init_task_union}
Warning: /boot/System.map-2.2.15 does not match kernel data.
{no_halt} {init_task_union}
Warning: /boot/System.map does not match kernel data.

Thanks so much,

D. Ghost

Re: Strange behavior in X

[Digital Overdrive]

Casey Henderson wrote:
> 
> Hi,
>   I'm getting some weird display behavior in X and I need some help.  I
> do a lot of work using virtual consoles.  Quite often when I'm in a
> virtual console, if I press ctrl-alt-f7 to get back to X, my screen
> goes blank.  I try to go back to a virtual console by pressing
> ctrl-alt-f1 (or f2 - f6) and the screen remains blank.  I have to
> reboot the computer by either pressing ctrl-alt-delete (which usually
> works) or by pressing the reset button or power switch.  This wouldn't
> be so bad if it were a once-in-a-while thing, but it happens very
> often, like more than once a day.  One of the reasons I switched to
> Linux from Windoze was because I could keep it running for
> days/weeks/months without having to reboot.  With this weird behavior
> I'm getting, I have to reboot my computer several times a day, which
> isn't much better than Windoze.  Can anybody help me out here? Thanks.

You could have a look at your videocard and stuff...
What Xserver are you running ? What's your videocard.

There are many things you have to specifiy before someone else can
answer it.

Regards,

Digital Overdrive

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Re: apt-move dain-brammage

[Robert Guthrie]

On Thursday 16 November 2000 17:13, Alson van der Meulen wrote:
>
> > I'm running the Potato version of this, if that matters.
>
> it does, woody as apt-move 4.x instead of 3.x shipped with potato, maybe
> that release will work, it has a quite different apt-move.conf format so i
> can't send you mine

Well, I can't use the Woody version, it depends on a new version of libc6 
(which could possibly break lots of stuff), and libstdc++, which doesnt' seem 
to have an installation candidate (strange... apt knows about it...).

So, I'm back to square one.  Anyone else using apt-move on a Potato system?

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will hear the voice of Satan?

That's nothing!  If you play it forward, it'll install Windows 2000.

RE: System.map

[Jason Holland]

You can recreate your System.map by running make install in /usr/src/linux,
or wherever your kernel source is that you recently recompiled.


Jason


>
> Recently I started getting a message when I do a ps -ef | grep *something.
>
> The message reads about my system map not matching my kernel. I recently
> recompiled a kernel to include msdos support, but that is all I've done.
>
> Anyone help with this?
>
> 
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~> ps -ef | grep netscape
> {no_halt} {init_task_union}
> Warning: /boot/System.map-2.2.15 does not match kernel data.
> {no_halt} {init_task_union}
> Warning: /boot/System.map does not match kernel data.
>
> Thanks so much,
>
> D. Ghost
>
>
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>
>

Re: System.map

[Stefan Janecek]

In a galaxy not too far away, Debian Ghost spoke on Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 
11:34:40AM -0500:
> Recently I started getting a message when I do a ps -ef | grep *something.
> 
> The message reads about my system map not matching my kernel. I recently
> recompiled a kernel to include msdos support, but that is all I've done.

How did you install your new kernel - maybe you didn't install the new
System.map? 
if you didn't do it that way: you should really use make-kpkg to make a debian
package of your new kernel and then install it with dpkg. just search this
mailing lists' archive, how this is done has been explained numerous times in 
here...

greets,
/stefan.
> 
> Anyone help with this?
> 
> 
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~> ps -ef | grep netscape
> {no_halt} {init_task_union}
> Warning: /boot/System.map-2.2.15 does not match kernel data.
> {no_halt} {init_task_union}
> Warning: /boot/System.map does not match kernel data.
> 
> Thanks so much,
> 
> D. Ghost
> 
> 
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> 

Re: what fax software do you suggest?

[USM Bish]

For small time requirements that you envisage, the
efax program is good enough. It is on the main sub
dir of Debian. Has an utility called  "efix" which 
does the job of conversion between fax, text, bit-
map, greyscale, ps and other formats.

For heavier workload, most people vouch for mgetty
+ sendfax. Don't have personal  experience on this
combination. I have used "kfax"  (kde) in the past 
without any problems ... However, for the rare few  
faxes out of my system "efax" was the final choice 
for me. Small, efficient, no-frills software which 
works !!!

Recommendation: Do an apt-get for efax.

USM Bish


On Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 11:49:56AM +, Thomas Halahan wrote:
> dear deb-users,
> 
> I have a stand allone debian box with a fax modem.  I want to send 
> faxes from my box (but I don't really have to recieve them). 
> 
> Q>  What software, from the debian distro, would you suggest which is 
> easy to set up for sending PS files, for example.
> 
> Thanks Tom
> 
> 
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> 

installing multiple versions of a given package

[Walter Tautz]

I am curious to know whether it would be possible to have
two or more version of a given package exist compatibly and
have the alternatives tool be able to pick one. 

REASON. Sometimes the features of one version are so annoying that
one isn't interested in the `newer' version. I suppose most people's
answer would be: put the older version in /usr/local?


One problem with having multiple version of a given package is
the fact that common filenames would exist. How to resolve this?
I see one solution:

Put the files of a package in its own directory and then add links
via the alternatives tool into /usr/bin/ /bin/ etc. It would also
be convenient if the individual user could control what version
he has access to by creating his own internal alternatives link tree.

The ability to put links into /usr/bin /bin would al least preserve the
FHS...


So to summarize:

Ability to install multiple version of a given package


Individual user access to alternatives functionality


Some consequences:
=

How would apt figure out to update or upgrade packages... presumably it
would simply offer to install the latest version without interfering
with the version you have on the system...you could also perhaps choose
to upgrade existing versions...


This brings up an obvious problem that people would be forced to
maintain more than one version  Also is it possible for the
alternatives package to work for the user.  Obviously the user could
use aliases if he/she wanted to use a particular editor but it might be
nice to have the alternatives tool not just work on a single system but
on a per user basis.


I suppose the notion of having multiple version would run up again the
the upgrading behaviour of apt... it also demonstrates the the problem
with having binaries in places like /usr/bin /bin rather than having a
separate directory for each package and then adding links to the
standard place like /usr/bin /bin in this way the filesystem
standard could be upheld...which is, I assume, how  alternatives avoids
violating the FHS.


Comments?

-walter

Re: what fax software do you suggest?

[Jim McCloskey]

|> I like efax. It works with Class 1 modems too which is a bonus. It
|> handles PS files very well and knows what to do. In fact, it relies on
|> ghostscript to generate the fax image files.

I second this. Efax is small, light and very dependable. It's author
(Ed Casas) and maintainer (Dirk Eddelbuettel) are both very responsive
about fixing problems quickly.

One piece of advice: if you choose to install it, you should install
the version in unstable (`woody'). There is a problem with certain US
Robotics modems in the version in stable which is fixed in the version
in `woody'. This version installs smoothly on potato systems (or did
on mine anyway),

Jim

emai client

[Marcelo Chiapparini]

Hi!!

I am looking for a X e-mail client which could look to different mailboxes
in different ISPs. Any suggestion?
Thanks in advance!


Marcelo
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Problems with Make and MySQL perl modules

[Ken Januski]

Hi

I downloaded msql-mysql-modules-1.2215.tar.gz today from CPAN. But when I
ran make I got these errors:
"LD_RUN_PATH -"/usr/local/." cc -o
/blib/arch/auto/DBD/mysql/mysql.so -shared -L/usr/local/lib dbdimp.o
mysql.o -L/usr/local/lib/mysql -L/usr/local/lib/mysql -/mysqlclient -lm -lz 
-L/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-linux/2.95.2-lgcc
/usr/bin/ld: cannot find - lz
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status"

I think that the problem is related to linking but I'm not that familiar
with compiling and linking file so I can't be sure. But whether it is or not
the real question is how to get rid of the complaints about "cannot
find -lz". At least I THINK that is the real question. Any help would be
appreciated.

Thanks

ken

is possible mp3?

[Jaye Inabnit ke6sls]

Hello,

Is it possible to add content to an exsisting mp3? I would 
like to take a particular track and add an voice identifier
to it.. If so, what utility would I use to edit/create mp3's?

tia, regards
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Re: Problems with Make and MySQL perl modules

[Colin Watson]

"Ken Januski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I downloaded msql-mysql-modules-1.2215.tar.gz today from CPAN. But when I
>ran make I got these errors:
>"LD_RUN_PATH -"/usr/local/." cc -o
>/blib/arch/auto/DBD/mysql/mysql.so -shared -L/usr/local/lib dbdimp.o
>mysql.o -L/usr/local/lib/mysql -L/usr/local/lib/mysql -/mysqlclient -lm -lz 
>-L/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-linux/2.95.2-lgcc
>/usr/bin/ld: cannot find - lz
>collect2: ld returned 1 exit status"
>
>I think that the problem is related to linking but I'm not that familiar
>with compiling and linking file so I can't be sure. But whether it is or not
>the real question is how to get rid of the complaints about "cannot
>find -lz". At least I THINK that is the real question. Any help would be
>appreciated.

That'll be the zlib compression library. You need to install the
zlib1g-dev package.

Cheers,

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Re: [Xpert] Strange behavior in X

[Casey Henderson]

Sorry, forgot the details.  =) I'm using an S3Virge video card (2 mb
video ram) with the S3V server (XFree 3.3.6).  If you need anything
else just ask.  Thanks.

Casey

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Fwd: Re(2): [Xpert] Strange behavior in X

[Casey Henderson]

Sorry, forgot the details.  =) I'm using an S3Virge video card (2 mb
video ram) with the S3V server (XFree 3.3.6).  If you need anything
else just ask.  Thanks.

Casey

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Re: VALinux box -> NT4 -> Debian emergency!

[Michael Smith]

I put disks in and out of boxen all the time.  The trick is to label everything.
That way, you don't erase the good stuff.  Otherwise, have fun.

Robert Guthrie wrote:

> On Friday 17 November 2000 04:57, Rory Campbell-Lange wrote:
>
> > A small complication as that we need to practise installing NT4 onto the
> > new server as we have a completely new IT support department who don't
> Blasphemy!  ;-)
>
> > much experience in this area. I'd like to get the VALinux box, possibly
> > take out the hard drive/s and put in a temporary hd, install NT4, then put
> > back the Linux hard disks and reinstall lilo.
> >
> > I'm very inexperienced with lilo, mbrs etc. I'd be grateful for any
> > comments on the feasibility and likely problems of the procedure I've
> > outline above.
> I'm not going to try and tutuor you on MBR & such (there are several good
> howtos available on the web and with any standard debian installation about
> dual-booting (search for windows, NT, etc...), which go into detail about how
> OS's boot.
>
> As for what you had in mind, sure, just pull out the drive(s), put in a new
> one, practice the dark rituals you need to, and then replace the temporary
> drive with the original(s).  Nothing else has to be done if you didn't change
> the BIOS settings (the boot manager is located on the drive).  NOTE:  as with
> any OS, if you have multiple drives, they should all be re-instlalled in
> exactly the same way they were when you took them out, or your system won't
> boot.
>
> --
> Did you know that if you play a Windows 2000 cd backwards, you
> will hear the voice of Satan?
>
> That's nothing!  If you play it forward, it'll install Windows 2000.
>
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Re: is possible mp3?

[Nick Zigarovich]

Jaye,

  You can decode the MP3 to WAV format (can be done using mpg123 -w), and
use your favorite WAV editor (waveforge, xwave, sweep) to layer in your
content.

  I've never done any editing or mixing with the available Linux
utilities, so I can' thelp you with specifics. Abstractly speaking, I
would send the decoded WAV through a channel, send the layer you'd like to
add through another channel, mix the two channels, and output them to a
WAV.

Nick

On Fri, 17 Nov 2000, Jaye Inabnit ke6sls wrote:

> 
> Hello,
> 
> Is it possible to add content to an exsisting mp3? I would 
> like to take a particular track and add an voice identifier
> to it.. If so, what utility would I use to edit/create mp3's?
> 
> tia, regards
> -- 
> 
> Jaye Inabnit, ARS ke6sls e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 707-442-6579 h/m 707-441-7096 p
> http://www.qsl.net/ke6slsICQ# 12741145
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> If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid.
> 
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Re: VALinux box -> NT4 -> Debian emergency!

[kmself]

on Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 10:57:38AM +, Rory Campbell-Lange ([EMAIL 
PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Hi.
> I've an urgent question, and I'd be most grateful if anyone with an
> answer or advice would reply to me directly, as I only receive the
> digest for the debian-user list.
> 
> I'm trying to propel my office which currently uses NT4 servers to
> serve Mac workstations, to Linux servers. We need a new box and I've
> contacted VALinux in the UK to spec one of these out. We have to have
> a box by the end of next week!
> 
> A small complication as that we need to practise installing NT4 onto
> the new server as we have a completely new IT support department who
> don't have much experience in this area. I'd like to get the VALinux
> box, possibly take out the hard drive/s and put in a temporary hd,
> install NT4, then put back the Linux hard disks and reinstall lilo.
> 
> I'm very inexperienced with lilo, mbrs etc. I'd be grateful for any
> comments on the feasibility and likely problems of the procedure I've
> outline above.

If the issue is getting servers with NT and GNU/Linux preinstalled, VA
should be able to help you out in this department by preloading.

If the issue is rolling out a large number of your own NT installs, you
may want to explore a partition management or boot management tool.

Otherwise, it's fairly straightforward to load up systems in dual-boot
mode, though it's a time-consuming process, particularly on the Legacy
MS Windows side, as you can't just (legally) ghost or mirror the
installation out, AFAIK (which, in this case, isn't terribly much).

If you're just swapping disks, you won't be doing any lilo reinstalls,
you're just swapping disks.

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Re: Netscape 6.0

[kmself]

on Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 04:14:40PM +, Ekkehard Kraemer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
> Daniel Borgmann wrote:
> > 
> > > > My experience was that Mozilla M18 was not nearly as stable as
> > > > Netscape 4.75 and I removed it from my system.
> > >
> > > i have found its certainly more of a pig
> > 
> ...
> > i heared of skipstone and really really want to try it.
> 
> I just installed Skipstone, and it looks good (suits me better than
> Galeon, at least). Apart from being leaner than Mozilla/Netscape (small
> wonder, it aims to do much less), it has the one single feature which
> made me pay for the Opera browser (on another well-loved OS whose name I
> will not mention here :-) ).
> 
> The feature I mean is this: you can switch Skipstone to "tabbed" mode,
> and all browser windows are contained in one single "real" window (read:
> MDI mode). But it still gets better: if you open a link in a new window
> now, the new window is opened *behind* the current window. That is, you
> can open a list of links with just a few clicks, and don't need to
> constantly shuffle windows around. Nice feature for people who browse
> "breath-first", like me. Granted, it's only one click less then with
> other browsers, but it's still nice and definitively makes the desktop
> less cluttered.

Karsten's iron law of web browsers:  they all suck.

I'm playing with (objective statements follow):

  - NS 4.57:  still primary for graphics, though I curse it every time I
load it and twice on crashes.

  - w3m:  secondary browser

  - lynx:  for unformatting overly designed websites -- sometimes
straight text is just better

  - galeon:  it's better than Mozilla.  Lighter, fewer cruft features,
but still heavy on my PII-180, unstable, and with a couple of
annoying features.  Slimmed down, speeded up, and stabilized, it
could be a favorite.

  - Skipstone:  also nice, see galeon.  There are a few feature
tradeoffs, and it's not as lightweight as I'd like it to be.  A font
scaler would be good.

  - Konqueror:  if and when KDE is stable on my box (rarely), it's
actually pretty damned nice.  I wish to dog it were less dependent
on KDE features, though.  Hello, world, we've just gone through a
decade of showing what happens when you insist on complex
interdependencies between software.  Learn your fucking lesson
already.

  - Mozilla:  take out the fucking cruft.  'Nuf said.  The Mozilla team
may (finally) be getting the message, but I've got my doubts.

  - Gzilla (aka armadillo):  Not even nearly there yet.

  - Gnome help browser:  all the interdependency issues of Konqueror w/o
the charm.

  - StarOffice:  Nice browser, too bad about the ball and chain.
Private memo to Sun StarDivision:  dis-integrate the fucking mess
already.


Question for the crowd.  One of the few features of Netscape I
particularly care for is the ability to restrict font sizing range to a
small scope -- 80 - 120% rather than the 50-200% default.  Anyone know a
way to restrict the range of font sizing used by  tags and
 tags?

In Netscape, it's the following X resource:

Netscape*documentFonts.sizeIncrement:   05

Default is 20.  This sets the font scaling step to 5% rather than 20%.

Clues?

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Re: Strange behavior in X

[Jim Crumley]

> Sorry, forgot the details.  =) I'm using an S3Virge video card (2 mb
> video ram) with the S3V server (XFree 3.3.6).  If you need anything
> else just ask.  Thanks.

Well give the regular xserver-svga a try.  Its supports S3 Virge
and I think it less buggy (and better maintained) than the xserver-s3v.
Anyway, I have an S3 Virge card, and I've never had any problems
with xserver-svga.

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Re: Apt-get UPgrade today

[John Galt]

xlibs conflicts with the version you have ATM (at least it did for me last
week when I apparently dealt with the problem).  dist-upgrade should've
solved it (that WAS the whole point of dist-upgrade at one
time).  If you know the culprit, just plain install it.  My usual process
for unstable upgrading (the conflict you're having here happens rather
often...)

1) apt-get upgrade

2) apt-get dist-upgrade

3)CAUTIOUSLY apt-get install any packages held back.  This may require
that some packages that require the old version and haven't been upgraded
in and of themselves: what can happen is that package foo can depend on
package bar only equal to version baz: you install bar of version baz+1
and package foo's dependency fails.  Apt resolves dependencies from bar's
perspective and clears out anything that now has failed
dependencies.  Package foo gets uninstalled.  This is a sane way to do
things, unless you think that foo is more important to your work than bar.

4) if 3) fails because you don't want to uninstall a given package: wait a
week or two and try the setup again--the conflict may have resolved
itself.  Brand new packages take a little longer to propagate than updated
versions, so if the package depends on a new package, it's very likely
that the dependency will remain unmet until the new package
propagates.  The maintainer of the package foo might've gotten his package
to work with bar version baz+1 in the meanwhile.  Either way, the problem
solves itself.

5) if 4) fails, make a value judgement: which is more important--foo or
bar or an ever increasing number of held packages while you wait out the
conflict resolution?  Run with it. 



On Fri, 17 Nov 2000, dude wrote:

> 
> 
> still Didnt help install xlibs which seems to be the root of the problem
> 
> g
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, 16 Nov 2000, John Galt wrote:
> 
> >
> > do a dist-upgrade and that should bring down the number of "not
> > installed"...
> >
> > On Thu, 16 Nov 2000, dude wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello all.
> > >
> > > I've Just
> > > Upgraded today and have noted that exactly 41 packages have not been fully
> > > installed or removed
> > >
> > > The only error is get is:
> > >
> > > /var/cache/apt/archives/xlibs_4.0.1-5_386.deb
> > >
> > > thanks for the help
> > > please CC me a copy of your help directly
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > There is an old saying that if a million monkeys typed on a million
> > keyboards for a million years, eventually all the works of Shakespeare
> > would be produced.   Now, thanks to Usenet, we know this is not true.
> >
> > Who is John Galt?  [EMAIL PROTECTED], that's who!
> >
> >
> >
> 

-- 
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Who is John Galt?  [EMAIL PROTECTED], that's who!!!

Re: basic xscreensaver question

[Andrea Vettorello]

Ethan Benson wrote:

> > 2.I have the GL screensavers turned on, but I get errors about not 
> > setting my MESA_GLX_FX variable.  Right now I have it so that it sets it in 
> > my bashrc.  What would be a better (global) file to put that it so all 
> > programs could take advantage of it?
>
> (please fix your line wrap)
>
> no idea on this one, ive played with GL savers a bit but never had to
> mess with any variables like that.

It's about 3DFX glide-lib full screen 3D rendering... I remember another one to 
avoid the 3DFX splash screen, something like FX_GLIDE_NO_SPLASH...


Andrea

Re: bc - calculator

[Daniel Freedman]

Or you could just use:

'bc -l' on invocation to get bc to treat numbers as 'longs'

HTH
-Daniel

> From: Christoph Simon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: bc - calculator
> Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> 
> On Fri, 17 Nov 2000 13:39:21 +0100
> Joerg Johannes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > This was really great and saved me hours of time. The problem is now,
> > that I have to do the same thing with divisions, meaning 3/4 = 0.75. But
> > bc spits out 3/4 => 0 and 4/3 => 1. Any Idea how I can change this
> > behaviour to get the real results? Would save me some more hours...
> 
> I don't use bc but dc. There I have to say
> 5 k
> to get 5 digits of decimal fractions. In bc, syntaxis is different, but
> probably you'll have to do something similar.
> 
> --
> Christoph Simon
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

capt segfaults

[Johannes Zellner]

capt segfaults from time to time with the following message:

Exit: "Signal Handler (sig11)"

is this a known problem ?

-- 
   Johannes

Re: Problems with Make and MySQL perl modules

[Ken Januski]

Thanks Colin, that solved the problem.

ken

- Original Message -
From: "Colin Watson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 1:15 PM
Subject: Re: Problems with Make and MySQL perl modules


> "Ken Januski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >I downloaded msql-mysql-modules-1.2215.tar.gz today from CPAN. But when I
> >ran make I got these errors:
> >"LD_RUN_PATH -"/usr/local/." cc -o
> >/blib/arch/auto/DBD/mysql/mysql.so -shared -L/usr/local/lib dbdimp.o
>
>mysql.o -L/usr/local/lib/mysql -L/usr/local/lib/mysql -/mysqlclient -lm -lz
> >-L/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-linux/2.95.2-lgcc
> >/usr/bin/ld: cannot find - lz
> >collect2: ld returned 1 exit status"
> >
> >I think that the problem is related to linking but I'm not that familiar
> >with compiling and linking file so I can't be sure. But whether it is or
not
> >the real question is how to get rid of the complaints about "cannot
> >find -lz". At least I THINK that is the real question. Any help would be
> >appreciated.
>
> That'll be the zlib compression library. You need to install the
> zlib1g-dev package.
>
> Cheers,
>
> --
> Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
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Large file support in Woody

[Jeff Lessem]

Now that woody is based on glibc2.2 I thought I would play with large
file support.  Perhaps this was a mistake, as I have managed to create
a 3GB file, but I can't remove it.  Any access to the file with the
fileutils package (ls, rm, etc.) returns with "Value too large for
defined data type".

I thought maybe fileutils had to just be rebuilt against the new
glibc, but after an apt-get source --build fileutils, I still get the
same error.  I am sure I am missing something quite obvious, so any
pointers in the right direction would be greatly appreciated.

--
Thanks,
Jeff Lessem.

Synchronizing the files on two machines

[Christophe TROESTLER]

Hello,

I would like to be able to synchronize the *certain* files on two
machines that are *not* directly connected to each other.

More precisely, I have to transfer data daily between two machines and
the only convenient way to do that is through floppies (ZIP /
rewritable CDs).  Do you know a program that would keep a set of
files/dirs (with recursion but with possible exception of some
subdirectories and files given by regexps) synchronized on the two
machines.  That means in particular that files/dirs created/deleted on
some host should be having the same treatment on the other host.
Preservation of permissions and uid/gid is important (with provision
if the numeric uid/gid differ for a given symbolic uid/gid on the two
machines ?).  Ideally, it would keep a backup copy on the floppy (in
case I do something really wrong!).  It would also detect if a file
has been modified on the two machines and prompt for what to do.  If
the first disk is full, it should be able to `span' the data on other
ones.  A report of every session would be nice.

Well, you get the idea.  If you know of an utility more or less
fitting the description above, I am really interested!  (I suppose I
am not the only one with such a problem.)

Thanks,
ChriS

Re: is possible mp3?

[Scott Patterson]

Of course, mp3 is a lossy format. So, every time you re-compress the mp3 it will
sound a little worse. However, since mp3's sound pretty good to start with, one
re-compression shouldn't sound much different:)

A better solution would be to squeeze the audio directly into the file. I don't
know if such a solution exists though, or is even possible.

Scott

>Jaye,
>
>  You can decode the MP3 to WAV format (can be done using mpg123 -w), and
>use your favorite WAV editor (waveforge, xwave, sweep) to layer in your
>content.
>
>  I've never done any editing or mixing with the available Linux
>utilities, so I can' thelp you with specifics. Abstractly speaking, I
>would send the decoded WAV through a channel, send the layer you'd like to
>add through another channel, mix the two channels, and output them to a
>WAV.
>
>Nick
>
>On Fri, 17 Nov 2000, Jaye Inabnit ke6sls wrote:
>
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Is it possible to add content to an exsisting mp3? I would
>> like to take a particular track and add an voice identifier
>> to it.. If so, what utility would I use to edit/create mp3's?
>>
>> tia, regards
>> --
>>
>> Jaye Inabnit, ARS ke6sls e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> 707-442-6579 h/m 707-441-7096 p
>> http://www.qsl.net/ke6slsICQ# 12741145
>> This mail composed with kmail on kde on X on linux warped by debian
>> If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid.
>>

Synchronizing the files on two machines

[Allan F. Caetano]

> "Christophe" == Christophe TROESTLER <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Christophe> Hello,
Christophe> I would like to be able to synchronize the *certain* files on 
two
Christophe> machines that are *not* directly connected to each other.

Christophe> More precisely, I have to transfer data daily between two 
machines and
Christophe> the only convenient way to do that is through floppies (ZIP /
Christophe> rewritable CDs).  Do you know a program that would keep a set of
Christophe> files/dirs (with recursion but with possible exception of some
Christophe> subdirectories and files given by regexps) synchronized on the 
two
Christophe> machines.  That means in particular that files/dirs 
created/deleted on
Christophe> some host should be having the same treatment on the other host.
Christophe> Preservation of permissions and uid/gid is important (with 
provision
Christophe> if the numeric uid/gid differ for a given symbolic uid/gid on 
the two
Christophe> machines ?).  Ideally, it would keep a backup copy on the 
floppy (in
Christophe> case I do something really wrong!).  It would also detect if a 
file
Christophe> has been modified on the two machines and prompt for what to 
do.  If
Christophe> the first disk is full, it should be able to `span' the data on 
other
Christophe> ones.  A report of every session would be nice.

I haven't pondered on the details of your problem very much, but
it seems to me that rdist(1) is your friend.

salut,

-- 
Allan F. Caetano
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ComVc: 479966   ICQ: 68214944

"Who is this peer that keeps resetting my connection?
 I have a broken pipe I wanna hit him with!"

Installation problems

[James Copland]

I'm having problems installing Debian on my system. I have the Promise
UDMA66 card, a SiS 6326 video card and an Aureal Vortex 2 AU8830 sound card.
None of these install, nor does my /dev/lp0 even though I know it is ECP, at
0x378-0x37F and 0x778-0x774 on IRQ 7 and DMA 3.

I finally worked out how to install. Instead of using floppies and then
typing some, undocumented in the install manual, parameters, I downloaded
the install from hard disk files in the udma66 directory. Once I duplicated
the way they were setup, I could boot to Debian and start the install
process.

I need to know what drivers to add to my kernel for the above devices. I am
aware that there is no support for the AU8830 other than that at
SourceForge. The Aureal package there says it works on RedHat (6.0 - 6.2
kernel 2.2.16 and 2.4) and Slackware (7.0 kernel 2.2.16 and 2.4). What are
the chances it will work on Debian?

TIA for your help,
James.