Re: IMWheel help

[Willy Lee]

"Peter" == Peter Jay Salzman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> rob, i'm sure people will barf at what i'm about to say...  i've
> found imwheel to be a bad program.  i had trouble with what got
> "wheel focus".  for example, if netscape worked with the wheel, then
> my xterms wouldn't, and vice versa.

I have not even looked at imwheel, and my mouse wheel is working
fine (except that the physical wheel is a little sticky in one
direction, but that's not X's fault :).

> btw, many programs already support the wheelie mouse -- xterm and
> friends (rxvt, eterm, etc), star office, etc.

> there's only a few important ones (netscape comes to mind) which
> don't.

FWIW, Mozilla _does_ support the wheel for scrolling out of the box.
And since XEmacs does also, I have no complaints.

=wl
-- 
Albert ``Willy'' Lee, Emacs user, game programmer
"They call me CRAZY - just because I DARE to DREAM of a RACE of 
SUPERHUMAN MONSTERS!"

Re: telnet doesn't find localhost

[Jeronimo Pellegrini]

:: Wayne Topa writes:

Thanks for replying, Wayne.

>> This is probably a known problem. I checked the BTS some time ago,
>> and tehre was a bug filed against telnet, I guess... It couldn't
>> resolve "localhost".

> Just tried to telnet to localhost and it works fine (potato).

Oh, I'm using woody...

> Have you modified the /etc/network/interfaces file?  You might try
> enabling  the first line, ie

I didn't change it; the problem was almost surely caused by some
upgrade; I just don't know which package did it!

>  iface lo inet loopback

It was commented out, I enebled it, and still that didn't work.

"lo" was already up before this. Telnet complains about a "Temporary
failure in name resolution"

Anything else I could try?
Any other woody users having the same problem?

J.

-- 
Jeronimo Pellegrini
Institute of Computing - Unicamp - Brazil
http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~jeronimo
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Re: /boot

[Ethan Benson]

On Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 08:34:28AM +0400, Rino Mardo wrote:
> you mean grub can use reiserfs with /boot?

grub reads the filesystem so yes it does, you just need to install the
stage1.5 for reiserfs.  same with ext2 i think.

-- 
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http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/


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Re: telnet doesn't find localhost

[Pollywog]

On 23-Oct-2000 Jeronimo Pellegrini wrote:
> 
> It was commented out, I enebled it, and still that didn't work.
> 
> "lo" was already up before this. Telnet complains about a "Temporary
> failure in name resolution"
> 
> Anything else I could try?
> Any other woody users having the same problem?

I don't have this problem and I am using Woody.
Is localhost in your /etc/hosts ?


--
Andrew

Re: apts: something wicked happend resolving 'http.us.debian.org/http '

[Russ Pitman]

Hi;
I have been bitten with this twice now, so I think that there is more
than one issue here.
The first time I had just restarted my cron updates after having shut them
down as soon as the glib problem was reported on this listmail.

I mailed the list on Oct 16,see thread"still cannot access DEbian.org"
I use postfix as my MTA so it was working then -after- the error from
apt-get update, however the following day when I tried to reply to  Jason
Gunthorpe, postfix failed on sending with the mail stuck in the mail queue.

I completely rebuilt the installation from Potato CD's,no woody aps,and all
worked fine until I tried to install Pysol from woody,to get sound.

Apt-get -d install pysol retrieved nine glib6 related files so figuring 
that the library screwup had been resolved from comments on the
list I installed them.

Postfix broke with a stuck mail queue, apt-get broke again and I have just
finished reinstalling potato on a separate drive to enable mail.
I reckon I will stay down here for mail until I can find out how to 
repair woody 'cos there is a heap off apps there I don't have room 
for on this drive.

On Sat, Oct 21, 2000 at 12:39:35PM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
> Paulius writes:
> > just upgraded from stable to unstable and got this problem when trying to
> > start apt-get update (and so on). Searched through archives, but didn't
> > find the answer what to do...
> 
> Try again.  As far as I can tell, this attempt at humor just means that the
> connection failed.
> -- 
> John Hasler
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
> Dancing Horse Hill
> Elmwood, WI
> 
Happy linuxing. 
Oh! Yes Pysol with sound works great.
-- 
russ

Re: apts: something wicked happend resolving 'http.us.debian.org/http '

[Jason Gunthorpe]

On Mon, 23 Oct 2000, Russ Pitman wrote:

> Postfix broke with a stuck mail queue, apt-get broke again and I have just
> finished reinstalling potato on a separate drive to enable mail.
> I reckon I will stay down here for mail until I can find out how to 
> repair woody 'cos there is a heap off apps there I don't have room 
> for on this drive.

Try installing your own copy of bind setup with no forwarders and set your
resolv.conf to only use localhost.

If that solves it then it would confirm my theory that this is caused by
buggy DNS servers messing with glibc's new logic...

Someone really needs to look into this in detail, but I don't know of
anyone who can reproduce it at will. If you can do this (by editing your
resolv.conf) then I think we can probably find it..

Jason

Re: ssh X forwarding error

[Robert Waldner]

On Fri, 20 Oct 2000 14:35:21 PDT, kmself@ix.netcom.com writes:
>Question:  is it possible to cobble out an X forward through port
>forwarding, independently of the built-in X forwarding of SSH?

Yes, it is. I did something like that a while ago: forward remote port 
6002 to local port 6001, run the remote program with -display 
localhost:2 or something like that, I don´t remember exactly.

hth,
&rw
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NDS Corporate Edition for Linux - Looking for help

[Craig Law]

I'm not sure whether this is the right list to make this posting and if not any 
direction to the correct list would be appreciated.

I'm currently a Debian user and love the purity of the distribution and 
especially apt-get. I'm working on a project to setup Debian servers to run NDS 
Corporate Edition for Linux as well as Zenworks for Desktops 3 (both Novell 
products). I'm an experienced user of Zenworks and love what it does for 
controlling a users Windows environment and distributing applications 
throughout our organisation. I'm now looking to setup a company where we 
replace Netware servers with Debian servers (more stable, easier to use and no 
OS licensing fee) and run NDS Corp Ed for Windows workstation authentication 
and Zenworks for Desktops 3 (and of course Samba for File and Printer serving).

Unfortunately NDS Corporate Edition for Linux and Zenworks for Desktops is only 
really supported on a Redhat Linux 6.1 or 6.2 platform. It works well on a 
Redhat platform. I've done a little bit of tinkering with the install shell 
script supplied by Novell on my Debian server but bomb out half way through. I 
can't say that I'm experienced enough with these sorts of things to be able to 
work my way through to a solution. Is there anyone out there that would be 
interested in helping me get the product to work in a Debian Linux environment. 
I'm sure there are others out there that would be interested in our results.

Obviously this software from Novell is not free. I have a trial version and 
with a little bit of help from Novell we might be able to make it work on the 
best Linux distribution. More than happy to forward the 9MB file to anyone who 
wants to help.

If there is anyone out there who would like to help please let me know. I would 
prefer to use Debian on these servers!!!

Many thanks

Craig Law

Re: isdn-problem

[Jan Ulrich Hasecke]

"Stephan Kiesel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On starting the system and the isdn services, my ippd0
> establishes a connection to my isp nameserver (IP-address:port 53) every 10
> minutes without any user activity. I have configuration files in /etc/isdn
> but no idea which flag to set. Can anybody help?
> thx stephan

On my machine it was rwhod. Look into your logs. I removed rwhod and
friends and had no problems.

Ciao!
juh

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Literatur und Satire per E-Mail
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Re: apts: something wicked happend resolving 'http.us.debian.org/http '

[Russ Pitman]

Jason,
Will do later this evening, I'm a bit lost on bind tho.

On Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 12:05:13AM -0600, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 23 Oct 2000, Russ Pitman wrote:
> 
> > Postfix broke with a stuck mail queue, apt-get broke again and I have just
> > finished reinstalling potato on a separate drive to enable mail.
> > I reckon I will stay down here for mail until I can find out how to 
> > repair woody 'cos there is a heap off apps there I don't have room 
> > for on this drive.
> 
> Try installing your own copy of bind setup with no forwarders and set your
> resolv.conf to only use localhost.
> 
> If that solves it then it would confirm my theory that this is caused by
> buggy DNS servers messing with glibc's new logic...
> 
> Someone really needs to look into this in detail, but I don't know of
> anyone who can reproduce it at will. If you can do this (by editing your
> resolv.conf) then I think we can probably find it..
> 
> Jason
> 

-- 
russ

Debian crashes: sw, hw or malicious hacker/virus problems?

[Jean Orloff]

Hello, dear debian fellows!

Please forgive my paranoid anonymity, in view of the last section of
this message.

1) My problem:

I have happily used debian since 1995 (0.93R6 if I recall?). But since I
installed 2.1 on my new PC at work, about a year ago, that machine
undergoes about a crash per month in average. Nothing to scare a
windblows user, of course, but unbearable for someone who knows this
should not be so. Especially as these crashes are unrecoverable: screen
frozen, mouse/keyboard frozen (no vt switching nor clean reboot
possible) and even no access from outside through the network. Thus no
alternative to the brutal power switchoff, with subsequent fsck'ing of
the whole disk.

When does this happen? Always with a heavy load (2-3 users on a 128Mb
pentium
400, each with several windows, netscape, emacs etc + some compilation
or latex2html going on); always with at least one remote ssh login. I
also sometimes had the impression of the mouse freezing temporarily
before the total crash, but you know how short time causality can be
violated in the human brain.

2) Software problems?

In the beginning, I attributed this to the network interface card
(3C905C=Tornado) that was not officially supported by Donald Becker's
3C59x
driver. Indeed, a twin sister machine (same install, same hardware
except for an officially supported 3C905B) had no problem whatsoever. So
I fetched the official driver from 3com site, tried a precompiled
mandrake kernel with this 3com driver, but the problem remained. I then
tried various kernel+3C59x pre- or home-compiled versions (2.13, 2.15,
2.17)
but with each I endured at least one crash. I checked the NIC
autoconfigured network parameters with ether-diag, found out half duplex
generated less error messages but nothing more serious. I installed
gnu-accounting package (acct), to see the last commands that were
executed before the crash, but found nothing special.

3) Hardware problems?

Bored with switching kernels, I followed the hardware problem track.
Despite a successful memory test at boot, maybe one of the 2 memory bars
was bad? I ran during the summer on half memory, but it ended up by a
crash again. I switched the memory bar: problem again a month later.
Maybe the NIC slot was bad? I switched with the soundcard last week. No
crash yet, but I have reasons to believe it won't help.

4) Hacker/virus problems?

During the very first hour of the very first install, I got port-scan
attacked (see log below). Bad point for debian, I thought: what is the
probability of a PC being attacked in the first hour of its connection
to the net? Looks more probable that the attack was triggered by the
install process! Anyway, the ports for telnet (22) and ftp (??) were
filtered by the local router (except for local machines), I was not
running any daemon, so I was not too scared. After watching the logs for
about a week, I opened the machine to full internet exclusively through
ssh connections which are not filtered by the local router.

Until last week, I had no reason to think of hacker origin to my
crashes. But last week, I got 2 crashes. And I noticed something very
curious in the accounting logs. Among the last processes that finished
less than 5 minutes before the crash, there was a bunch of NAMELESS root
processes, that started at 0 unix time (Jan 1 1970) and lasted 0 second
(!?). E.g: 

# lastcomm

S20acct   S root ?? 0.01 secs Thu Oct 19 19:40
acctonS root ?? 0.00 secs Thu Oct 19 19:40
---> reboot
root ?? 0.00 secs Thu Jan  1 01:00
root ?? 0.00 secs Thu Jan  1 01:00
root ?? 0.00 secs Thu Jan  1 01:00
root ?? 0.00 secs Thu Jan  1 01:00
root ?? 0.00 secs Thu Jan  1 01:00
root ?? 0.00 secs Thu Jan  1 01:00
root ?? 0.00 secs Thu Jan  1 01:00
root ?? 0.00 secs Thu Jan  1 01:00
root ?? 0.00 secs Thu Jan  1 01:00
root ?? 0.00 secs Thu Jan  1 01:00
root ?? 0.00 secs Thu Jan  1 01:00
root ?? 0.00 secs Thu Jan  1 01:00
root ?? 0.00 secs Thu Jan  1 01:00
root ?? 0.00 secs Thu Jan  1 01:00
root ?? 0.00 secs Thu Jan  1 01:00
perluser1?? 0.18 secs Thu Oct 19 18:57
sh  user1?? 0.01 secs Thu Oct 19 18:57

Suspicious, no? Such nameless processes occured in both crashes last
week. I kept the acct logs of the previous one too: there they were,
less than 5 minutes before the crash. Unfortunately, I could not check
the ones before. 

But even more curious

libc6 2.1.95 --> crashes oracle

[Jaume Teixi]

I post this regarding recent upgrade of libc6 on woody causes oracle 8.1.6
stops working...can't create new db's

any points or suggest,  are wellcome,
jaume.

Re: isdn: what I've to do??

[Shaul Karl]

> On Sat, Oct 21, 2000 at 09:10:08AM +0200, Shaul Karl wrote:
>  
> > 
> > > I configure isdn with the prepared script that came with debian
> > > isdnutils package and those that are generate by isdnconfig utilities
> > > (and modified by hand).
> > > 
> > > Now the problem is that the card do not compose number at all.
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > What do you mean? What are you getting after issuing:
> > 
> > isdnctrl dial ippp0
> > 
> > I would also try using minicom and some ttyI just to see that I can reach 
> > my 
> > ISP.
> 
> It means that I'm very stupid :(I wasn't doing that last time .. argh!)
> 
> Ok, I've checked the error message and fixed eaz and remote number,
> thank to you.
> 
> Now it seems that the problem is on my isp, or on my ipppd
> configuration.
> 
> After I've enabled debugging, I can see nothing is sent by remote
> host. I use pap (supported by isp) the option ipppd are:
> 


You are wrong. Much is sent by the remote host: you can see in your log that 
your host sends and receive (send and recv). I believe that you should play a 
bit with ipppd options. I do not know much about it. Perhaps the man page or 
the PPP-HOWTO can help? As far as i remember the PPP-HOWTO has a detailed log 
of a full debug connection. Perhaps Maybe you should also try debian-user 
again with a subject like "what ipppd options should be changed?" and attach 
your log.
What other log files might show (debug, messages)?


> debug
> lock
> +pwlog
> user crxop
> papcrypt
> +pap
> noccp
> nolzs
> noipdefault
> netmask 255.255.255.255
> defaultroute
> mtu 1500
> ipcp-accept-local
> ipcp-accept-remote
> noipx
> 
> I'm configuring it as pointopoint.
> 
> > .. 
> > 
> > In addition to the your init messages I have:
> >...  
> > Oct 16 07:39:30 rakefet kernel: ippp0: dialing 0 725...
> > Oct 16 07:39:31 rakefet lpd[230]: restarted
> > Oct 16 07:39:31 rakefet ipppd[222]: Local number: 35298903, Remote number: 
> > 927, Type: outgoing
> > Oct 16 07:39:31 rakefet ipppd[222]: PHASE_WAIT -> PHASE_ESTABLISHED, 
> > ifunit: 
> > 0, linkunit: 0, fd: 8
> > Oct 16 07:39:31 rakefet kernel: isdn_net: ippp0 connected
> > Oct 16 07:39:32 rakefet ipppd[222]: Remote message: 
> > Oct 16 07:39:32 rakefet ipppd[222]: MPPP negotiation, He: No We: No
> > Oct 16 07:39:32 rakefet ipppd[222]: local  IP address 212.179.144.29
> > Oct 16 07:39:32 rakefet ipppd[222]: remote IP address 212.25.92.5
> 
> Now here is the problem: no Remote message and no MPPP negotiation:
> 
> Oct 21 13:35:28 localhost kernel: ippp0: dialing 1 050319...
> Oct 21 13:35:31 localhost kernel: isdn_net: ippp0 connected
> Oct 21 13:35:31 localhost kernel: isdn_net: chargetime of ippp0 now 6273230
> Oct 21 13:35:31 localhost ipppd[3593]: Local number: 050970953, Remote 
> number: 050319, Type: outgoing
> Oct 21 13:35:31 localhost ipppd[3593]: PHASE_WAIT -> PHASE_ESTABLISHED, 
> ifunit: 0, linkunit: 0, fd: 8
> Oct 21 13:35:31 localhost ipppd[3593]: sent [0][LCP ConfReq id=0x1  
>]
> Oct 21 13:35:31 localhost ipppd[3593]: rcvd [0][LCP ConfReq id=0x5b  chap md5>2d 70 69 2d 31 ]>]
> Oct 21 13:35:31 localhost ipppd[3593]: sent [0][LCP ConfRej id=0x5b  0x5f4>]
> Oct 21 13:35:31 localhost ipppd[3593]: rcvd [0][LCP ConfAck id=0x1  
>]
> Oct 21 13:35:31 localhost ipppd[3593]: rcvd [0][LCP ConfReq id=0x5c  chap md5>   ]>]
> Oct 21 13:35:31 localhost ipppd[3593]: sent [0][LCP ConfNak id=0x5c  pap>]
> Oct 21 13:35:31 localhost ipppd[3593]: rcvd [0][LCP ConfReq id=0x5d  pap>  ]
> Oct 21 13:35:31 localhost ipppd[3593]: sent [0][LCP ConfAck id=0x5d  pap>  ]
> Oct 21 13:35:31 localhost ipppd[3593]: lcp layer is UP
> Oct 21 13:35:31 localhost ipppd[3593]: sent [0][PAP AuthReq id=0x1
> user="crxop" password=""]
> Oct 21 13:35:31 localhost ipppd[3593]: rcvd [0][PAP AuthAck id=0x1msg=""]
> Oct 21 13:35:31 localhost ipppd[3593]: Remote message: 
> Oct 21 13:36:01 localhost ipppd[3593]: sent [0][LCP TermReq id=0x2 61 75 74 
> 68 20 66 61 69 6c 75 72 65]
> Oct 21 13:36:01 localhost ipppd[3593]: rcvd [0][LCP TermAck id=0x2]
> Oct 21 13:36:01 localhost ipppd[3593]: Connection terminated.
> 
> > [08:56:08 /tmp]$ exit
> > exit
> 
> Now that the interface is ok, I still need to test with seyon?
> 


Does all the above was taken while testing with seyon? 


> -- 
> Daniele Cruciani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Universita` di Pisa - Informatica -
> http://www.cli.di.unipi.it/~cruciani/

-- 

Shaul Karl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Idea: Master Debian FAQ (newbie-centric)

[Anthony Campbell]

On 23 Oct 2000, Bill Ramsey wrote:
> I think an excellent format is what the Caldera users have done. They
> have put together a "Step by Step" site which Caldera and others
> mirror. 
> 
> http://linux.nf/stepbystep.htm
> 
> It takes one or two dedicated people to hold it all together; and the
> participation of many, many people. Someone who is expert in PPP would
> do a step by step write up on how to do in Debian and then the
> maintainer would post it on the site.
> 
> Bill
> 
> >Greetings folks,
> >
> >As a newcomer to Debian I, like many since I've joined this list, ask typical
> >newbie questions about the some basic things.  If we take a step back and 
> >look
> >at the big picture there is a basic group of things new users want to get
> >accomplished.  
> -- 
> Bill Ramsey
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 

I agree with this. I think there is also a need for very short answers
to seemingly trivial questions that can be difficult to solve. Over
quite a long time I've compiled a list for my own purposes; it's a
memory jog, because there are certain problems that come up only at long
intervals, at which point you've forgotten what you did last time.

Examples:

  When Xauthority won't work, delete .Xauthority, then run xauth -b.

  If modem keeps cutting out when you dial, comment out ABORT "NO
  CARRIER" in /etc/chatscripts.

  When changing hostname, make sure you change the entry in /etc/hosts,
  otherwise hostname -s won't work.


All these may be obvious to most people but they've caught me out more
than once. I'm thinking of posting them on my linux website.

Anthony


-- 
Anthony Campbell - running Linux Debian 2.2 (Windows-free zone)
Over 100 book reviews: http://www.cix.co.uk/~acampbell/bookreviews/
Skeptical articles: http://www.cix.co.uk/~acampbell/freethinker/

"Palo y tente tieso." (Spanish proverb)
Free translation: "Holdfast is your only dog."

Re: fetchmail

[Anthony Campbell]

On 22 Oct 2000, Ross Boylan wrote:
> Some of these problems might be from the mail server, not the
> fetchmail client.  I know mail servers can do things like making a
> complete copy of your spool file before + after processing.  So there
> can be quite a delay for them to get going.
> 

Interesting. However, it does seem that altering the order of hosts in
/etc/hosts has solved the problem for me.

Anthony


-- 
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Over 100 book reviews: http://www.cix.co.uk/~acampbell/bookreviews/
Skeptical articles: http://www.cix.co.uk/~acampbell/freethinker/

"Palo y tente tieso." (Spanish proverb)
Free translation: "Holdfast is your only dog."

removing packages: apt-get <--> dpkg

[Thomas Guettler]

Does someone know the difference between removing a package with
dpkg and apt-get?

-- 
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Re: (Psion) plptools compilation error

[Andre Berger]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Colin Watson) writes:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >Has anyone managed to compile plptools (unfortunately there's no
> >Debian package)? I found no email address, and I couldn't even find
> >out who's the author.
> 
> Where can we get the source code?

Sorry, it's 

> 
> >I get this error on my up-to-date potato system:
> >
> >Making all in plpftp
> >make[1]: Entering directory `/home/andre/plptools-0.6/plpftp'
> >g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../include -I../lib-O2 -Wall -c ftp.cc
> >ftp.cc: In function `int checkAbortHash(long int)':
> >ftp.cc:169: implicit declaration of function `int printf(...)'
> >ftp.cc:169: `stdout' undeclared (first use this function)
> 
> Looks like somebody forgot to #include .

Which means?

> -- 
> Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 

-- Andre

Re: telnet doesn't find localhost

[Christoph Simon]

> > Hello...
> > 
> >   This is probably a known problem. I checked the BTS some time ago,
> >   and tehre was a bug filed against telnet, I guess... It couldn't
> >   resolve "localhost".
> > 
> 
> 
> > 
> > I am a bit confused. man 5 hosts didn't help...
> > 
> > Any ideas?

Do you have an alias for localhost, something like

127.0.0.1   localhost   mybox.mynet

I remember having had a similar problema (long time ago), and since
then I always give a local address to ``mybox.mynet'', which is
different from 127.0.0.1

HTH

-- 
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Problem with /etc/fstab

[Paweł Kordys]

Can anyone help me with fstab... ?
I have 2 windows partitions, edited /etc/fstab and everything working, but I
would like to only users from "fat" group can see /c-fat and d-fat/ (my
mount points), maked:

chown .fat c-fat/
chown .fat d-fat/
chmod 770 c-fat/
chmod 770 d-fat/

but mount overwrite permisions.

Pablo

Advice USB CD burner

[Olivier Billet]

Hello everybody !

I plan to buy a CD burner and I need it to be parallel or USB.
Did someone install a good USB one on a Debian with 2.2.17 kernel ?

Thanks in advance,
Olivier.

Re: removing packages: apt-get <--> dpkg

[Ethan Benson]

On Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 12:09:41PM +0200, Thomas Guettler wrote:
> Does someone know the difference between removing a package with
> dpkg and apt-get?

none (afaik), except that pre-invoke and post-invoke commands in
/etc/apt/apt.conf are run when you use apt.

this is useful if you keep /usr mounted readonly and have pre/post
invoke commands to mount it read-write when needed and back to
read-only when done.  if /usr is read-only dpkg --purge or dpkg -r
will fail, but apt-get remove or apt-get --purge remove will succeed.

-- 
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http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/


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Re: Problem with /etc/fstab

[Ethan Benson]

On Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 12:16:27PM +0200, Pawe? Kordys wrote:
> Can anyone help me with fstab... ?
> I have 2 windows partitions, edited /etc/fstab and everything working, but I
> would like to only users from "fat" group can see /c-fat and d-fat/ (my
> mount points), maked:
> 
> chown .fat c-fat/
> chown .fat d-fat/
> chmod 770 c-fat/
> chmod 770 d-fat/
> 
> but mount overwrite permisions.

yup, permissions of the mountpoint directory are irrelevant, they are
always replaced by the permissions stored on the filesystem.  (or in
this case the faked permissions for FAT)

what you should do instead is change your fstab entries to look
something like this:

/dev/hda6/c-fat vfatrw,umask=007,gid=120 0 2

check /etc/group to see what the numeric gid number for group `fat' is
and use that instead of my 120 example.  also change that last 2 to a
0 if you don't want these filesystems fscked at boot. (yes there is a
fsck.msdos for *nix its in the dosfstools package)

another option is using umsdos which lets you have *nix filesystem
features (such as permissiosn) on the DOS filesystem (via an ugly hack
that leaves funky files littered about your dos filesystem)

-- 
Ethan Benson
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Missing library for FrontSucks "extensions"

[Alec Smith]

I've got several users who insist on having FrontPage webs, so I've got
the misfortune of having to install everything. When running the
fp_install.sh script, it complains about a missing library, illustrated
below

[EMAIL PROTECTED]/usr/local/frontpage/version4.0/bin$ ldd fpsrvadm.exe
libcrypt.so.1 => /lib/libcrypt.so.1 (0x40016000)
libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x40043000)
libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2 => not found
libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0x40047000)
libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x40065000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4000)

How can I go about satisfying this dependancy on a Potato system? I've got
libstd++2.8, libstdc++2.9, and libstd++2.10 installed at present.

Thanks,
Alec

Re: Master Debian FAQ (newbie-centric)

[ColdWater]

List,

I think that this is a very good and also a great point for people who would
like to try out Debian but think that is very hard to work out with, and
install, also.
If possible, count me in. I would also like to help. And, if there is also
possible to set a specific help on the creation of the FAQ, I would like to
do it with tar.


> 6. Would the Debian main page hold a link to this if it's done well and
tailored
>toward Debian?
If we could talk with them (debian.org) maybe they will put the FAQs on
their page. (and "maybe" in some package).

See yap,
Custodio, L. C.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



- Original Message -
From: "William Jensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2000 5:22 PM
Subject: Idea: Master Debian FAQ (newbie-centric)


> Greetings folks,
>
> As a newcomer to Debian I, like many since I've joined this list, ask
typical
> newbie questions about the some basic things.  If we take a step back and
look
> at the big picture there is a basic group of things new users want to get
> accomplished.  For example most users want to send mail to other people.
While
> we could say to them "go RTFM!" that is hardly what they are asking for.
If
> they did take that RTFM advice...how many of them do you think would stay
> around?  Not a lot likely.  HOWTO's, README's, etc are fine and dandy and
> very informative once you have a base knowledge under your belt and you
can
> appreciate what they are.  But for someone that is "brand new" it is just
> overwhelming.  What I'm getting around to saying is how can we, the Debian
> community, set up some newbie FAQ's that are tailored specifically at the
> very new person trying out linux and doesn't want "every switch" explained
> in detail.  Most people, if I am not mistaken, want easy to understand
> documentation that gets them up and running fast with concrete examples of
> the cmd in action for a variety of "most used" scenarios.  Take the
following
> topics:
>
> email, ssh, http, sound, xwindows, security, word processors, tar
>
> Each one of those topics probably has a handful of "how do I" associated
with
> it that a very new user would "typically" ask to this list.  First off I'd
like
> to ask if someone has already gathered a FAQ like this for Debian.  If
not,
> I'd like to volunteer my time in creating (when I have the knowledge)
parts
> of the FAQ.  Some basic questions come up though and these I throw out to
you,
> the Debian community:
>
> 1. Who would house/display the FAQ so it is always available.
> 2. Who can contribute and how?
> 3. Who does quality control checks?
> 4. How do you submit an article to be included?
> 5. What would be a successful structure/format?
> 6. Would the Debian main page hold a link to this if it's done well and
tailored
>toward Debian?
>
> Again, I'd like to be part of this and am willing do devote some of my
time
> to getting easy to understand documentation out to newbies...of which I
still
> consider myself a member.  I have several other newbie friends that I
provide
> tech support to on linux and most of the time I end up referring them to a
> spot on my home website that I have documented how I was able to get
things
> working for myself.
>
> If your interested in this project or have suggestions please feel free to
> contact me on the list here or privately at [EMAIL PROTECTED]  It would
> be a shame to let all the talent that people on this list have stored in
their
> heads go to waste by being burned out by constant repeats of the same
question.
>
> Regards,
>
> Bill Jensen
>
>
> --
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>

Re: (Psion) plptools compilation error

[Colin Watson]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Colin Watson) writes:
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> >Has anyone managed to compile plptools (unfortunately there's no
>> >Debian package)? I found no email address, and I couldn't even find
>> >out who's the author.
>> 
>> Where can we get the source code?
>
>Sorry, it's 

Got it, thanks. For the address of the author, Fritz Elfert, look in
some of the source files; for instance, it's on line 7 of plpftp/ftp.cc.

>> >Making all in plpftp
>> >make[1]: Entering directory `/home/andre/plptools-0.6/plpftp'
>> >g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../include -I../lib-O2 -Wall -c ftp.cc
>> >ftp.cc: In function `int checkAbortHash(long int)':
>> >ftp.cc:169: implicit declaration of function `int printf(...)'
>> >ftp.cc:169: `stdout' undeclared (first use this function)
>> 
>> Looks like somebody forgot to #include .
>
>Which means?

It's the author's fault. In C, if you use certain functions or
variables, you need to include the appropriate "header files" into your
program from the libraries that define them. For printf() et al, you
need stdio, the standard input/output library. The author did include
this, but only if you have the development readline libraries available;
unfortunately this is bogus, because he uses things like printf() and
stdout unconditionally.

(You probably want to have the development readline libraries installed
while compiling this anyway. Install the libreadline4-dev package.)

Go to plpftp/ftp.cc line 46, remove that line (which should read
'#include '), and move it up to the topmost block of #include
directives. The code then compiles fine - well, there are a few warnings
(two-digit years - I can only hope this is just something that the Psion
link protocol requires), but nothing fatal.

Cheers,

-- 
Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Missing library for FrontSucks "extensions"

[Colin Watson]

Alec Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]/usr/local/frontpage/version4.0/bin$ ldd fpsrvadm.exe
>libcrypt.so.1 => /lib/libcrypt.so.1 (0x40016000)
>libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x40043000)
>libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2 => not found
>libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0x40047000)
>libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x40065000)
>/lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4000)
>
>How can I go about satisfying this dependancy on a Potato system? I've got
>libstd++2.8, libstdc++2.9, and libstd++2.10 installed at present.

On this potato system, that library's in libstdc++2.9-glibc2.1.
(Intuitive name, huh?)

-- 
Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: /boot

[Mark Phillips]

Ethan Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> their own partitions, then make / 64MB or less, then it will fall
> under the 1024 cyl mark.  

I have a / partition of about 100MB, which includes /boot.  Is this a
problem?  Why do you say 64MB or less?

Cheers,

Mark.

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Re: /boot

[Ethan Benson]

On Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 08:28:52PM +0930, Mark Phillips wrote:
> Ethan Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > their own partitions, then make / 64MB or less, then it will fall
> > under the 1024 cyl mark.  
> 
> I have a / partition of about 100MB, which includes /boot.  Is this a
> problem?  Why do you say 64MB or less?

because if you split /usr /tmp /var and /home / will only consume
about 30 - 40MB at most, making it larger then 64MB is simply a waste
of space.  

on my most bloated debian box:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] eb]$ df -h /
FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda1  68M   19M   45M  30% /
[EMAIL PROTECTED] eb]$

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fsplit

[Danny Lathouwers]

Dear community,
 
Does anyone know whether the fsplit utility is 
packaged?
(fsplit splits binary or source files in more 
likable pieces).
 
Thanks.
---Danny LathouwersInterfaculty Reactor 
InstituteDelft University of TechnologyMekelweg 15, 2629 JB DelftThe 
Netherlands Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Tel: 
+31 15 2781192Fax: +31 15 2786422

Re: apts: something wicked happend resolving 'http.us.debian.org/http '

[Russ Pitman]

On Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 06:05:32PM +1100, Russ Pitman wrote:
> Jason,
> Will do later this evening, I'm a bit lost on bind tho.
> 
> On Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 12:05:13AM -0600, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > 
Hi Jason, back now.
Well, changing /etc/resolv.conf seems to have partly fixed the problem. I
can do apt-get update now,providing of course the site isn't busy. Any one
with half a brain would have a 'Site Busy' message instead of that crackpot 
obfuscation. Maybe I'm a bit tired tonight.

resolv.conf now reads:
---
nameserver localhost
nameserver 203.31.178.5
nameserver 203.31.178.8
---
Postfix is still broken, with mail stuck in the the queue, I thought that
leaving the ISP's nameservers in resolv.conf might help but not so.

Any further suggestions?
--
---russ---

Unidentified subject!

[Alexey Kakunin]

Hi!
Then I try to build glibc-2.1.95-1 from debian source packages I get error:

#dpkg-buildpackage
...
rm -f `find debian/glibc-doc -name '*~' -o -name '#*#'`
rm -rf /usr/local/files/debian/src/glibc-2.1.95/i386-linux/glibc-doc
mkdir --parents --mode=0755 
/usr/local/files/debian/src/glibc-2.1.95/i386-linux/glibc-doc/usr/share/info
install --mode=0644 
/usr/local/files/debian/src/glibc-2.1.95/i386-linux/install_root/usr/share/info/*.info*
 /usr/local/files/debian/src/glibc-2.1.95/i386-linux/glibc-doc/usr/share/info/.
install: 
/usr/local/files/debian/src/glibc-2.1.95/i386-linux/install_root/usr/share/info/*.info*:
 No such file or directory
make: *** [glibc-doc] Error 1
small:/usr/local/files/debian/src/glibc-2.1.95# mc
# small:/usr/local/files/debian/src/glibc-2.1.95/i386-linux/install_root# 
small:/usr/local/files/debian/src/glibc-2.1.95/i386-linux# 
small:/usr/local/files/debian/src/glibc-2.1.95/glibc-2.1.95# 
small:/usr/local/files/debian/src/glibc-2.1.95

Did anybody meet it before? How can I fix it?

--
Best Regards.
Alexey Kakunin, M.Sc.

Re: network config

[Michael P. Soulier]

On Sun, Oct 22, 2000 at 08:12:33PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote:

> yup dhcp sucks, for potato configure your interfaces in
> /etc/network/interfaces
> 
> something like this:
> 
> iface eth0 inet static
> address 192.168.0.1
> netmask 255.255.255.0
> network 192.168.0.0
> broadcast 192.168.0.255
> gateway 192.168.0.10
> 
> your addresses will obviously be different. 

Cool, thanks. I guess a startup script reads this and does the appropriate
ifconfig and route commands? I like doing them manually a few times just to
learn what's going on. Hell, there's always a problem where you need the
manual commands. I wouldn't want to do it every time the system boots, but...

Mike

-- 
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"...the word HACK is used as a verb to indicate a massive amount
of nerd-like effort."  -Harley Hahn, A Student's Guide to UNIX
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Re: Frustrated Windows user making switch

[Michael P. Soulier]

On Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 12:47:54AM -0400, William T Wilson wrote:
> 
> Use the serial mouse driver.  Both the Logitech and Microsoft drivers are
> 'specialty' and not for use with ordinary mice even if they are made by
> Logitech or Microsoft.  If your mouse is really a PS/2 mouse (99% of
> serial mice function as PS/2 mice also simply by connecting them to the
> PS/2 port) then use that driver.

Where's the mouse driver configured anyway? I assume some serial module?
I've never had to mess with that. Mice are typically so simple that they just
work. 

Mike

-- 
Michael P. Soulier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
"...the word HACK is used as a verb to indicate a massive amount
of nerd-like effort."  -Harley Hahn, A Student's Guide to UNIX
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Re: network config

[Michael P. Soulier]

On Sun, Oct 22, 2000 at 08:12:33PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote:
> 
> yup dhcp sucks, for potato configure your interfaces in
> /etc/network/interfaces
> 
> something like this:
> 
> iface eth0 inet static
> address 192.168.0.1
> netmask 255.255.255.0
> network 192.168.0.0
> broadcast 192.168.0.255
> gateway 192.168.0.10
> 
> your addresses will obviously be different. 

Hmm. I just looked in /etc/init.d, and there's a network script that sets
up the loopback connection:

#! /bin/sh
ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1
route add -net 127.0.0.0

I see an entry in /etc/network/interfaces for this but it's commented out.
So, if it's supposed to be done in /etc/network/interfaces, what's this
network script for? 

Mike

-- 
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of nerd-like effort."  -Harley Hahn, A Student's Guide to UNIX
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Re: telnet doesn't find localhost

[Michael P. Soulier]

On Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 03:20:47AM -0200, Jeronimo Pellegrini wrote:

> >  iface lo inet loopback
> 
> It was commented out, I enebled it, and still that didn't work.

I have a /etc/init.d/network script on my potato box with these commands:

#! /bin/sh
ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1
route add -net 127.0.0.0

Apparently it's part of the netbase package.

Mike

-- 
Michael P. Soulier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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of nerd-like effort."  -Harley Hahn, A Student's Guide to UNIX
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Re: Lucent "winmodem and Debian with an up to date Kernel

[Francesco Bochicchio]

On Sun, Oct 22, 2000 at 02:10:46AM +0100, Jeff Green wrote:
> A colleague has got some of our laptops which contain internal Lucent
> winmodems working using DeadRat 6.2 I would much prefer him to use
> Debian or Storm but the Lucent driver we can find is a binary only
> affair found on http://www.linmodems.org/ which only appears to work
> with 2.2.14 kernels anyone have a better answer?
>
Slightly better.
You can make the binary-only module work with 2.2.15 <= kernels <= 2.2.17, 
if you make a small change to ...include/linux/tty.h and then recompile the
kernel & the modules (including pcmcia, alsa or other kernel-dependenti s/w). 
I found this hint on the archive list of www.linmodems.org and 
re-posted it on debian-laptops ML a couple of weeks ago. Dig in the  
archives of these list for details.

It is not like having an open-source driver, but it might help you.
(BTW, I believe RH also is using the binary-only module, so no loss in
switching ).

Ciao
--
FB 

Re: removing packages: apt-get <--> dpkg

[Michael P. Soulier]

On Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 03:14:07AM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote:
> 
> none (afaik), except that pre-invoke and post-invoke commands in
> /etc/apt/apt.conf are run when you use apt.
> 
> this is useful if you keep /usr mounted readonly and have pre/post
> invoke commands to mount it read-write when needed and back to
> read-only when done.  if /usr is read-only dpkg --purge or dpkg -r
> will fail, but apt-get remove or apt-get --purge remove will succeed.

I've had apt-get remove pull more than one package before to satisfy
dependencies. I figured that was the point. 

ie. I was removing package A which was required for package B, so it
offered to remove both A and B. 

Mike

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of nerd-like effort."  -Harley Hahn, A Student's Guide to UNIX
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upgrading debconf error

[Jaume Teixi]

Setting up debconf (0.4.02) ...
Can't locate object method "value" via package
"Debian::DebConf::Question" at /usr/lib/perl5/Debconf/Config.pm line 31.

dpkg: error processing debconf (--configure):


how can I proced with shuch error ?

thanks,
jaume.

usb mouse

[Bob Edwards]

Good morning!

I had no luck geting linux to recognize my mouse (at least partially I
suspect because of some unique I/O and IRQ settings the people that
built my system for me -- non-standard stuff).

I've installed a USB mouse which works fine on the windows side of my
system, HOW DO I GET LINUX AND X TO RECOGNIZE MY USB MOUSE (and other
USB devices as far as that goes).

I'm under tremendous time pressure, please help if you have the time.

Thanks in advance.

regards,
Bob Edwards
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fayetteville, Arkansas

Re: how to upgrade from potato to woody

[romeu]

I'm upgrading from potato to woody.
I already did the following steps:
1) Downloaded Woody packages (just like libstdc++2.10, kde2...), and
installed it to run under potato.
2) Downloaded Woody Kernel-Source test5, and built bzImage, so I use
loadlin do boot it with a dos menu. In the dos menu, I can boot win, potato
or woody.

Am I in the right way? Say, can I build / in the same /dev/hda3 to both
distributions?
Well, it *is* working, but I am worried about a few things.:
- isapnp.conf, for example. I have an isa pnp modem that is working under
potato, but it seems that woody doesn't take /etc/isapnp.conf to configure
the boards. Actually, one board - Awe32 - is being well configured through
the woody Isa Pnp option I enabled under xconfig.
- Is there another thing (another configuration files...) that _could_ not
work under both installations?


Thanks for ya help,
Gaucho.

Debian and Red Hat togheter

[romeu]

Another question (It's half off-topic, I know):
I'm installing Red Hat. Is there anyone that has 2 different linux OS's in
the same machine, and was able to optimize disk space? Say, symlink a few
directories (/home, for example) from one installation to another? It would
not only optimize disk space, but it would keep the same user files under
both installations.

Thanks again,
Gaucho

Re: Missing library for FrontSucks "extensions"

[Alec Smith]

Very obvious indeed... Especially when a guy has never used RedHack to
know what libraries were in 6.1. I'd have to guess that's where the name
came from.

Thanks!



On Mon, 23 Oct 2000, Colin Watson wrote:

> Alec Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]/usr/local/frontpage/version4.0/bin$ ldd fpsrvadm.exe
> >libcrypt.so.1 => /lib/libcrypt.so.1 (0x40016000)
> >libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x40043000)
> >libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2 => not found
> >libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0x40047000)
> >libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x40065000)
> >/lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4000)
> >
> >How can I go about satisfying this dependancy on a Potato system? I've got
> >libstd++2.8, libstdc++2.9, and libstd++2.10 installed at present.
> 
> On this potato system, that library's in libstdc++2.9-glibc2.1.
> (Intuitive name, huh?)
> 
> -- 
> Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
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> 

DB2

[Cavaiani, Don]

I have downloaded DB2 for Linux from IBM.  I am on version 2.0.38.  Has
anyone tried to install this trial DB2 on Debian yet??  Will it work with
2.0.38 or do I need to upgrade??

If upgrading is necessary, can someone point me to a simple set of
instructions.  If I upgrade, will I likely lose some of the "settings" I
currently have ??

Thanks.

Re: Debian and Red Hat togheter

[Nate Amsden]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Another question (It's half off-topic, I know):
> I'm installing Red Hat. Is there anyone that has 2 different linux OS's in
> the same machine, and was able to optimize disk space? Say, symlink a few
> directories (/home, for example) from one installation to another? It would
> not only optimize disk space, but it would keep the same user files under
> both installations.

yes ive done this a couple times ..the only downside to doing it is it
can be a bitch to keep the userids matching so permissions/ownership is
consistant accross both systems ..

nate

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Eterm

[Alberto Pereira]

Someones with uses Eterm knows how can a set new pixmaps for backgroud in
Eterm??
Ex.: I like the pixmaps debian.jpg
a want to pixmap debian.jpg is randowling set like all other images in
Eterm.

Someone knows how can i do that?

Atenciosamente,
  .
   ,,$,Alberto Pereira  
  ;$'  ':  Analista de Suporte 
  $: :  
   $   o_)$$$: -"E ai linux, o que faremos hoje a noite??" 
   ;$,_/\ &&:' -"O que fazemos todas as noites link, 
 ' /( &&&tentaremos dominar o mundo"
 \_'
.  -DEBIAN, THE CHOICE OF NEW GNU LINUX GENERATION 
  &&&:  
 

Re: usb mouse

[Ard Righ]

([<> On 23 Oct 2000, some witty mortal wrote: <>])

> I've installed a USB mouse which works fine on the windows side of my
> system, HOW DO I GET LINUX AND X TO RECOGNIZE MY USB MOUSE (and other
> USB devices as far as that goes).

 You will have to get the kernel patches from http://www.linux-usb.org/
 
 The site has a lot of information you will need to check to get USB 
working in the 2.2 kernels.

 Other than that, you can try running a 2.4 test kernel, but that isn't 
advisable on a critical system.


 Ard Righ

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A font missing?

[Garamvölgyi László]

Hello.
Recently I installed a Potato. Generally I'm happy with it.
But:

Some java-related apps use such a big font (lucida sans 16 or 17),
that doesn't fit into the widgets (or the widgets into the window).
E.g. the java applets in netscape, and appletviewer, and hotjava.
I think it lacks a font, and uses that big one instead.

I tried to uninstall xfonts-100dpi, and it solved this problem, but so
many fonts disappeared, that i had to reinstall it quickly. (It seemed not
to be true that xfonts-100dpi and xfonts-75dpi provided the same fonts.)

My font packages installed are:
xfonts-100dpi
xfonts-75dpi
xfonts-base
xfonts-biznet-iso-8859-2-100dpi
xfonts-biznet-iso-8859-2-75dpi
xfonts-biznet-iso-8859-2-base
xfonts-intl-european
xfonts-scalable
freefont
sharefont
unifont

Shall I install additional ones, or shall I remove some?
Or is there an undebianlike solution?

Prethanks for any help,
Laca

Re: network config

[Ethan Benson]

On Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 09:16:57AM -0400, Michael P. Soulier wrote:
> 
> Hmm. I just looked in /etc/init.d, and there's a network script that sets
> up the loopback connection:
> 
> #! /bin/sh
> ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1
> route add -net 127.0.0.0
> 
> I see an entry in /etc/network/interfaces for this but it's commented out.
> So, if it's supposed to be done in /etc/network/interfaces, what's this
> network script for? 

either you upgraded to potato when it was unstable or you upgraded
from slink.  /etc/init.d/network is the old way of configuring the
network.  it was just a flat shell script, a nice way to do it but not
easy to translate when things change.  you can remove the network
script and add the following to /etc/network/interfaces:

# /etc/network/interfaces -- configuration file for ifup(8), ifdown(8)

# The loopback interface
iface lo inet loopback
up route add -net 127.0.0.0 netmask 255.0.0.0 dev lo
down route del -net 127.0.0.0 netmask 255.0.0.0 dev lo

iface eth0 inet static
address 192.168.0.1
netmask 255.255.255.0
network 192.168.0.0
broadcast 192.168.0.255
gateway 192.168.0.10


the route commands i have in the lo entry are not necessary under 2.2
kernels, i just have them there because i like to see that route in
the routing table and 2.2 does not create it (lo works without them
but..) 

as for your previous mail, the routing is done automatically by 2.2
kernels, im not sure if ipup does the routing automatically under 2.0
kernels or not.  i just know that i don't have to mess with the
routing table for eth0 on my system.  (running 2.2 kernels)

-- 
Ethan Benson
http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/


pgpiVhb3VDq5M.pgp
Description: PGP signature

Help: gv not reading *.gz files?

[Jonathan Gift]

Hi,

I have no trouble reading *ps.gz files using hghostview and gv under
Mandrake, but loading ghostview and gsfonts under Debian I find myself
unable to open *.gz ending files. I have to uncompress them to read. Any
thoughts? Maybe a default config Mandrake used but Debian doesn't?

Thanks,

Jonathan

Re: IMWheel help

[robhr]

I notice in your config that you don't have gpm being used as a repeater
device (I.E. the -R option).  That won't work will it?  I've always had
to make gpm repeat and have X use /dev/gpmdata in order to make gpm and
X work correctly with the mouse.  How can you get gpm and X to both work
without that option?  Is your /dev/mouse a symlink to /dev/psaux as I am
assuming?

I was able to get the scrolling wheel to work if I disabled gpm and used
the IMPS/2 protocol in the X config file (along with the ZAxisMapping),
but I couldn't get it to work with /dev/gpmdata and MouseSystems
protocol, which are the two I've always had to use to get X and gpm to
play nice.  Is there another way?

Rob

- Original Message -
From: Bob Nielsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Saturday, October 21, 2000 12:30 pm
Subject: Re: IMWheel help

> On Sat, Oct 21, 2000 at 10:21:22AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > I'm trying to get m MS wheel mouse to work in X, but am having no 
> luck. 
> > I've gotten everything working but the wheel, and I'm tried 
> installing> imwheel and reading the docs, but the wheel still 
> doesn't work.  I'm
> > using the mouse in X via gpm (/dev/gpmdata), and nothing I have 
> tried> has worked.  I've looked at the scrolling wheel help page, 
> but it didn't
> > help either.  According to the imwheel homepage, imwheel is 
> supposed to
> > come with a special version of gpm, but that doesn't seem to be 
> the case
> > with the Debian package.  Can anyone help my get the wheel 
> working?  Do
> > I need that special version of gpm?  Any help would be appreciated.
> 
> The following works for me:
> 
> In /etc/X11/XF86Config (/dev/mouse is a symlink to /dev/psaux):
> 
> Section "Pointer"
>Protocol"IMPS/2"
>Device  "/dev/mouse"
>ZAxisMapping  4 5
>Buttons 7
> 
> In /etc/gpm.conf:
> 
> device=/dev/psaux
> responsiveness=25
> type=imps2
> append="-l \"a-zA-Z0-9_.:~/\300-\326\330-\366\370-\377\""
> repeat_type=
> 
> -- 
> Bob Nielsen, N7XY  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Bainbridge Island, WA  http://www.oz.net/~nielsen
> 
> 

Re: network config

[robert_wilhelm_land]

Ethan Benson wrote:
> yup dhcp sucks, for potato configure your interfaces in
> /etc/network/interfaces
> 


Does this relate to the current deb2.2 distribution?



Robert

a whole bunch of questions

[robert_wilhelm_land]

When trying to start emacs out of a xterm with su permissions the
system complaines:

MINI:/home/rland# emacs
Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server
emacs: Cannot connect to X server :0.0.
Check the DISPLAY environment variable or use `-d'.
Also use the `xhost' program to verify that it is set to permit
connections from your machine.
MINI:/home/rland# emacs
Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server
emacs: Cannot connect to X server :0.0.
Check the DISPLAY environment variable or use `-d'.
Also use the `xhost' program to verify that it is set to permit
connections from your machine.
MINI:/home/rland# cd ~
MINI:~# xhost
Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server
xhost:  unable to open display ":0.0"

...whereas launching emacs as a ordinary user (rland) works fine. What
exactly should I edit to allow su doing the same?

The error recommends to use "xhost"  - but this seems to be a GUI app
and therefore dies for the same reasons as previously launching emacs. 
How can I help myself, would running xhost fruit in a working GUI when
changing to su?



Then, I cannot get my Diamond Sonic Impact 90 to work. gtcd starts,
accepts the CD, playes the first track but the speakers remain
quitely.
The linuxdoc howto states no support for this card but the distributer
SuSe maintaines a database which plots out:

these cards should be supported by Aureal and OSS 
look at http://linux.aureal.com/
CHIPSET - AU8820


When installing deb2.2 I marked the OSS driver as a module and now
I cannot really track the problem.:
**
/var/log/messages displays:

Oct 23 15:06:13 MINI kernel: hdd: STINGRAY 8422 IDE 8X CD-ROM 7-27-95,
ATAPI CDROM drive
Oct 23 15:06:13 MINI kernel: ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14  
Oct 23 15:06:13 MINI kernel: ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
Oct 23 15:06:13 MINI kernel: hda: ST32140A, 2015MB w/128kB Cache,
CHS=1023/64/63
Oct 23 15:06:13 MINI kernel: hdc: QUANTUM BIGFOOT1280A, 1226MB w/87kB
Cache, CHS=2492/16/63
Oct 23 15:06:13 MINI kernel: hdd: ATAPI 2X CD-ROM drive, 240kB Cache
Oct 23 15:06:13 MINI kernel: Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.11
Oct 23 15:06:13 MINI kernel: Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M
Oct 23 15:06:13 MINI kernel: FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077
Oct 23 15:06:13 MINI kernel: md driver 0.36.6 MAX_MD_DEV=4, MAX_REAL=8
Oct 23 15:06:13 MINI kernel: scsi:  Detection failed (no
card)
Oct 23 15:06:13 MINI kernel: NCR53c406a: no available ports found 
Oct 23 15:06:13 MINI kernel: sym53c416.c: Version 1.0.0
Oct 23 15:06:13 MINI kernel: Failed initialization of WD-7000 SCSI
card!
Oct 23 15:06:13 MINI kernel: IBM MCA SCSI: No Microchannel-bus support
present -> Aborting.
Oct 23 15:06:13 MINI kernel: megaraid: v107 (December 22, 1999)   
Oct 23 15:06:13 MINI kernel: aec671x_detect:
Oct 23 15:06:13 MINI kernel: 3w-: tw_findcards(): No cards found.
Oct 23 15:06:13 MINI kernel: scsi : 0 hosts.
Oct 23 15:06:13 MINI kernel: scsi : detected total.
Oct 23 15:06:13 MINI kernel: Partition check:
Oct 23 15:06:13 MINI kernel:  hda: hda1 hda2 < hda5 hda6 >
Oct 23 15:06:13 MINI kernel:  hdc: [PTBL] [623/64/63] hdc1 < hdc5 >
Oct 23 15:06:13 MINI kernel: VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem)
readonly.
Oct 23 15:06:13 MINI kernel: Freeing unused kernel memory: 140k freed
Oct 23 15:06:13 MINI kernel: NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0 for Linux
NET4.0.
Oct 23 15:06:13 MINI kernel: Adding Swap: 114876k swap-space (priority
-1)
Oct 23 15:06:13 MINI kernel: Installing knfsd (copyright (C) 1996
[EMAIL PROTECTED])
Oct 23 15:06:13 MINI kernel: NTFS version 000607
Oct 23 15:06:13 MINI kernel: Linux video capture interface: v1.00
Oct 23 15:06:13 MINI kernel: rtl8139.c:v1.07 5/6/99 Donald Becker
http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux/driver
s/rtl8139.html
Oct 23 15:06:13 MINI kernel: eth0: RealTek RTL8139 Fast Ethernet at
0xec00, IRQ 11, 00:00:21:d9:37:b2.
Oct 23 15:13:11 MINI syslogd 1.3-3#33: restart.
Oct 23 15:26:12 MINI -- MARK --
Oct 23 15:46:12 MINI -- MARK --
Oct 23 16:06:12 MINI -- MARK --
Oct 23 16:13:44 MINI kernel: hdd: packet command error: status=0x51 {
DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
Oct 23 16:13:44 MINI kernel: hdd: packet command error: error=0x40
Oct 23 16:13:45 MINI kernel: hdd: packet command error: status=0x51 {
DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
Oct 23 16:13:45 MINI kernel: hdd: packet command error: error=0x40
Oct 23 16:13:46 MINI kernel: hdd: packet command error: status=0x51 {
DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
Oct 23 16:13:46 MINI kernel: hdd: packet command error: error=0x40
Oct 23 16:13:47 MINI kernel: hdd: packet command error: status=0x51 {
DriveReady SeekComplete Error }


Which line could relate to the soundcard? Additionally there is a line
Oct 23 15:06:13 MINI kernel: hdd: ATAPI 2X CD-ROM drive, 240kB Cache

whereas the first line tells me:
Oct 23 15:06:13 MINI kernel: hdd: STINGRAY 8422 IDE 8X CD-ROM 7-27-

Re: (Psion) plptools compilation error

[Andre Berger]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Colin Watson) writes:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Colin Watson) writes:
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >> >Has anyone managed to compile plptools (unfortunately there's no
> >> >Debian package)? I found no email address, and I couldn't even find
> >> >out who's the author.
> >> 
> >> Where can we get the source code?
> >
> >Sorry, it's 
> 
> Got it, thanks. For the address of the author, Fritz Elfert, look in
> some of the source files; for instance, it's on line 7 of plpftp/ftp.cc.
> 
> >> >Making all in plpftp
> >> >make[1]: Entering directory `/home/andre/plptools-0.6/plpftp'
> >> >g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../include -I../lib-O2 -Wall -c ftp.cc
> >> >ftp.cc: In function `int checkAbortHash(long int)':
> >> >ftp.cc:169: implicit declaration of function `int printf(...)'
> >> >ftp.cc:169: `stdout' undeclared (first use this function)
> >> 
> >> Looks like somebody forgot to #include .
> >
> >Which means?
> 
> It's the author's fault. In C, if you use certain functions or
> variables, you need to include the appropriate "header files" into your
> program from the libraries that define them. For printf() et al, you
> need stdio, the standard input/output library. The author did include
> this, but only if you have the development readline libraries available;
> unfortunately this is bogus, because he uses things like printf() and
> stdout unconditionally.
> 
> (You probably want to have the development readline libraries installed
> while compiling this anyway. Install the libreadline4-dev package.)

ok

> Go to plpftp/ftp.cc line 46, remove that line (which should read
> '#include '), and move it up to the topmost block of #include
> directives. 

I put it on top of them.

> The code then compiles fine - well, there are a few warnings
> (two-digit years - I can only hope this is just something that the Psion
> link protocol requires), but nothing fatal.

Now I get:

Making all in plpftp
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/andre/plptools-0.6/plpftp'
g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../include -I../lib-O2 -Wall -c ftp.cc
ftp.cc: In method `int ftp::session(rfsv &, rpcs &, int, char **)':
ftp.cc:339: warning: `%c' yields only last 2 digits of year in some locales
ftp.cc:369: warning: `%c' yields only last 2 digits of year in some locales
ftp.cc:461: warning: `%c' yields only last 2 digits of year in some locales
ftp.cc: In function `char ** do_completion(char *, int, int)':
ftp.cc:916: ANSI C++ prohibits conversion from `(char *, int)' to `(...)'
ftp.cc:937: ANSI C++ prohibits conversion from `(char *, int)' to `(...)'
ftp.cc: At top level:
ftp.cc:56: warning: `class rpcs * comp_r' defined but not used
make[1]: *** [ftp.o] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/andre/plptools-0.6/plpftp'
make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1

Maybe there's something wrong with my development equipment?

-- Andre

upgrade; change from unstable to specific distribution?

[Gregory Guthrie]

I added unstable to my apt/sources.list, but want to restrict so that I am 
upgrading to the current new distribution only (I needed a specific 
package), and not always the b-leading edge. Can I just chane from unstable 
to "woody" in teh list?


Thanks,
Gregory Guthrie


Gregory Guthrie
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (641)472-1125Fax: -1103

Re: inetd in netbase package

[Matus \"fantomas\" Uhlar]

-> My question is why inetd is part of netbase. I would like to have a system
-> that don't run inetd but I would like to be able to use the other commands
-> that are part of netbase, like telnet (out from the machine), traceroute
-> etc.

Well,personally I want to havce inetd services but I wandt xinetd to provide
them. Maybe inetd should be split into package inetd and xinetd would
provide the same functionality. 

The same probably about syslogd versus syslog-ng; I don't need syslogd
installed. the problem is syslogd is in the same package as klogd and I need
klogd. Maybe sysklogd should be splitted into twopackages and syslog-ng
would provide syslogd...

-- 
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; http://www.fantomas.sk/ ; http://www.nextra.sk/
 Linux IS user friendly, it's just selective who its friends are...

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Re: broken woody

[David Z. Maze]

debian  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
d> after a "apt-get dist-upgrade" my system (woody) seems quite
d> broken.

Yup, it happens.If this is a problem for you, don't run a
distribution that advertises itself as "unstable".  Or, even better,
find the problem and file appropriate bug reports.

-- 
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"Theoretical politics is interesting.  Politicking should be illegal."
-- Abra Mitchell

Re: a whole bunch of questions

[Leo Cacciari]

robert_wilhelm_land scripsit:
>
>The error recommends to use "xhost"  - but this seems to be a GUI app
>and therefore dies for the same reasons as previously launching emacs. 
>How can I help myself, would running xhost fruit in a working GUI when
>changing to su?

Hi,
 no. xhost ISN'T a GUI application, if you run man xhost you'll see
it

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upgrading debian with an aol connection

[Jenserikthys]

could somebody tell me how i could upgrade debian 2.2 trough an aol 
connection with windows ;

downloading first the files to the hd  and dselect  with the file option ?


   .~.Linux : le meilleur moyen de faire fonctionner ses neurones
   /V\
   // \\   Linux : the best therapy there is for somebody's brain
  /(   )\  debian 2.2  potatothanks tomsrtbt for the logo
   ^`~'^

Re: IMWheel help

[Bob Nielsen]

I realize that the mouse won't work in both gpm and X (without the
repeat function) in many cases, but it does for me so I haven't really
questioned it (!)  /dev/mouse is a symlink to /dev/psaux, of course.

I have a problem with gpm occasionally not working correctly, but
'/etc/init.d/gpm restart' always fixes that.

Bob

On Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 10:44:14AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I notice in your config that you don't have gpm being used as a repeater
> device (I.E. the -R option).  That won't work will it?  I've always had
> to make gpm repeat and have X use /dev/gpmdata in order to make gpm and
> X work correctly with the mouse.  How can you get gpm and X to both work
> without that option?  Is your /dev/mouse a symlink to /dev/psaux as I am
> assuming?
> 
> I was able to get the scrolling wheel to work if I disabled gpm and used
> the IMPS/2 protocol in the X config file (along with the ZAxisMapping),
> but I couldn't get it to work with /dev/gpmdata and MouseSystems
> protocol, which are the two I've always had to use to get X and gpm to
> play nice.  Is there another way?
> 
> Rob
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Bob Nielsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Saturday, October 21, 2000 12:30 pm
> Subject: Re: IMWheel help
> 
> > On Sat, Oct 21, 2000 at 10:21:22AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > I'm trying to get m MS wheel mouse to work in X, but am having no 
> > luck. 
> > > I've gotten everything working but the wheel, and I'm tried 
> > installing> imwheel and reading the docs, but the wheel still 
> > doesn't work.  I'm
> > > using the mouse in X via gpm (/dev/gpmdata), and nothing I have 
> > tried> has worked.  I've looked at the scrolling wheel help page, 
> > but it didn't
> > > help either.  According to the imwheel homepage, imwheel is 
> > supposed to
> > > come with a special version of gpm, but that doesn't seem to be 
> > the case
> > > with the Debian package.  Can anyone help my get the wheel 
> > working?  Do
> > > I need that special version of gpm?  Any help would be appreciated.
> > 
> > The following works for me:
> > 
> > In /etc/X11/XF86Config (/dev/mouse is a symlink to /dev/psaux):
> > 
> > Section "Pointer"
> >Protocol"IMPS/2"
> >Device  "/dev/mouse"
> >ZAxisMapping  4 5
> >Buttons 7
> > 
> > In /etc/gpm.conf:
> > 
> > device=/dev/psaux
> > responsiveness=25
> > type=imps2
> > append="-l \"a-zA-Z0-9_.:~/\300-\326\330-\366\370-\377\""
> > repeat_type=
> > 

-- 
Bob Nielsen, N7XY  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bainbridge Island, WA  http://www.oz.net/~nielsen
 

Re: a whole bunch of questions

[Dave Sherohman]

On Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 06:10:01PM +0200, robert_wilhelm_land wrote:
> The error recommends to use "xhost"  - but this seems to be a GUI app
> and therefore dies for the same reasons as previously launching emacs. 
> How can I help myself, would running xhost fruit in a working GUI when
> changing to su?

No, xhost isn't a GUI app, but you have to run in as the user you actually
logged in as (mosr specifically, as the user who owns the X session), not
sued to root.  By default, root neither has permission to open windows on
your desktop, nor to give himself that permission.

BTW, if you're going to use xhost (it's not the most secure way of handling
this, but it is the easiest), use 'xhost localhost', not the name of your
machine.  It'll open the door wide enough for anyone on your machine to put
windows on your desktop, but without allowing any possibility for someone to
do it over the network.

> Then, I cannot get my Diamond Sonic Impact 90 to work. gtcd starts,
> accepts the CD, playes the first track but the speakers remain
> quitely.

Have you turned the volume up?  Try gom ('gom -it' on a command line) or
another mixer to see what your volume settings are if you haven't already.

> Oct 23 16:13:44 MINI kernel: hdd: packet command error: status=0x51 {
> DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
> Oct 23 16:13:44 MINI kernel: hdd: packet command error: error=0x40

> Which line could relate to the soundcard?

None of them are sound-related, but it looks like you've got some definite
problems with your CDROM.

> ...which states there should be somewhere a sound module, but 
> cat /etc/modules.conf|grep -A 4 sound 
> returnes no output.

Did you build your own kernel?  If so, did you remember to make modules and
make modules_install?  (Or module_install...  I can never remember which it
is...)

> Does dselect build up a database for all indexed packages? I cannot
> find wine by running "dpkg -l wine" or "dpkg -l | grep wine" although
> the debian installation routine was fed by all 4 CD's. Neither does
> dpkg seem to support a query routine simular to rpm.

A database of available packages is maintained by apt.  To search it, use
`apt-cache search packagename`.  Once you know the name of the package, you
can get the details on it with `apt-cache show packagename`.

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deb package documentation

[Stephen nyc]

Folks -

Where can I get a copy of the documentation included
in a .deb package (ipmasq specifically).

I haven't installed debian yet, and I'm currently
sitting on an NT box at the office.

Is this available on-line, or do I have to get it from
the package? Is there an NT based tool that will open
a .deb package?

Thanks for your help.

- Steve

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Re: IMWheel help

[Snowfox]

I use:

gpm:
mouse type imps2 coming off /dev/psaux, repeat type "raw"

x windows:
mouse type imps2 coming off /dev/gpm


I never have to restart gpm. The only time I have a problem is when
interrupts are missed for unrelated reasons; that sends the mouse
driver into a funny mode, from which you can recover by rolling the
mouse wheel back and forth a couple times.



On Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 09:49:54AM -0700, Bob Nielsen wrote:
> I realize that the mouse won't work in both gpm and X (without the
> repeat function) in many cases, but it does for me so I haven't really
> questioned it (!)  /dev/mouse is a symlink to /dev/psaux, of course.
> 
> I have a problem with gpm occasionally not working correctly, but
> '/etc/init.d/gpm restart' always fixes that.
> 
> Bob
> 
> On Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 10:44:14AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > I notice in your config that you don't have gpm being used as a repeater
> > device (I.E. the -R option).  That won't work will it?  I've always had
> > to make gpm repeat and have X use /dev/gpmdata in order to make gpm and
> > X work correctly with the mouse.  How can you get gpm and X to both work
> > without that option?  Is your /dev/mouse a symlink to /dev/psaux as I am
> > assuming?
> > 
> > I was able to get the scrolling wheel to work if I disabled gpm and used
> > the IMPS/2 protocol in the X config file (along with the ZAxisMapping),
> > but I couldn't get it to work with /dev/gpmdata and MouseSystems
> > protocol, which are the two I've always had to use to get X and gpm to
> > play nice.  Is there another way?
> > 
> > Rob
> > 
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Bob Nielsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: Saturday, October 21, 2000 12:30 pm
> > Subject: Re: IMWheel help
> > 
> > > On Sat, Oct 21, 2000 at 10:21:22AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > I'm trying to get m MS wheel mouse to work in X, but am having no 
> > > luck. 
> > > > I've gotten everything working but the wheel, and I'm tried 
> > > installing> imwheel and reading the docs, but the wheel still 
> > > doesn't work.  I'm
> > > > using the mouse in X via gpm (/dev/gpmdata), and nothing I have 
> > > tried> has worked.  I've looked at the scrolling wheel help page, 
> > > but it didn't
> > > > help either.  According to the imwheel homepage, imwheel is 
> > > supposed to
> > > > come with a special version of gpm, but that doesn't seem to be 
> > > the case
> > > > with the Debian package.  Can anyone help my get the wheel 
> > > working?  Do
> > > > I need that special version of gpm?  Any help would be appreciated.
> > > 
> > > The following works for me:
> > > 
> > > In /etc/X11/XF86Config (/dev/mouse is a symlink to /dev/psaux):
> > > 
> > > Section "Pointer"
> > >Protocol"IMPS/2"
> > >Device  "/dev/mouse"
> > >ZAxisMapping  4 5
> > >Buttons 7
> > > 
> > > In /etc/gpm.conf:
> > > 
> > > device=/dev/psaux
> > > responsiveness=25
> > > type=imps2
> > > append="-l \"a-zA-Z0-9_.:~/\300-\326\330-\366\370-\377\""
> > > repeat_type=
> > > 
> 
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Conexion a internet

[ROBERTOCALVENTE]

Hola, me llamo roberto y os escribi un e-mail el otro dia. Mi pregunta 
era y sigue siendo la siguiente:
 
como me puedo conectar a internet con Linux?
 
Tengo instalada la Debian 2.2 potato, un modem zoltrix externo 56k y 
pentium 200 MMX.
 
Lo intenté con el wvdial y parece que conecta ya que el modem hace el 
ruido estridente de comprobar el ancho de banda, y luego me comprueba 
el login y el password del ISP, a continuacion me pone starting pppd. 
Por lo que supongo que ha conectado. Sin embargo, cuando ejecuto el 
netscape no entra en ninguna pagina, solo me sale conect loking 
www.direccion que le doy y ya esta no puedo entrar en ninguna pagina.
 
Por favor, si alguien sabe como puedo arreglarlo mandenme un e-mail a 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
Gracias.
 

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Kernel-image 2.2.17 and disk write pauses

[Snowfox]

I'm using the 2.2.17 kernel-image on a system. The whole system
seems to pause briefly when commiting data to the IDE hard drive.
This has never happened with my own kernel builds, however I
can't see any relevant differences in the configuration.

I just tried this on another system and I see a similar effect;
one has a BX chipset, the other a VIA 82c686a chipset.

Any clue what's likely causing this?

Re: upgrading debconf error

[Joey Hess]

Jaume Teixi wrote:
> Setting up debconf (0.4.02) ...
> Can't locate object method "value" via package
> "Debian::DebConf::Question" at /usr/lib/perl5/Debconf/Config.pm line 31.
> 
> dpkg: error processing debconf (--configure):
> 
> how can I proced with shuch error ?

This is fixes in debconf 0.4.03, which in in Incoming now and will be
installed in a few hours.

-- 
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Re: (Psion) plptools compilation error

[Colin Watson]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Colin Watson) writes:
>> The code then compiles fine - well, there are a few warnings
>> (two-digit years - I can only hope this is just something that the Psion
>> link protocol requires), but nothing fatal.
>
>Now I get:
>
>Making all in plpftp
>make[1]: Entering directory `/home/andre/plptools-0.6/plpftp'
>g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../include -I../lib-O2 -Wall -c ftp.cc
>ftp.cc: In method `int ftp::session(rfsv &, rpcs &, int, char **)':
>ftp.cc:339: warning: `%c' yields only last 2 digits of year in some locales
>ftp.cc:369: warning: `%c' yields only last 2 digits of year in some locales
>ftp.cc:461: warning: `%c' yields only last 2 digits of year in some locales
>ftp.cc: In function `char ** do_completion(char *, int, int)':
>ftp.cc:916: ANSI C++ prohibits conversion from `(char *, int)' to `(...)'
>ftp.cc:937: ANSI C++ prohibits conversion from `(char *, int)' to `(...)'

My fault for not testing it before suggesting you install
libreadline4-dev. :)

I can get it to compile by inserting the cast '(CPFunction *)'
immediately before 'command_generator' in line 916 and immediately
before 'filename_generator' in line 937 (so I end up with
'matches = completion_matches(text, (CPFunction *)command_generator);',
etc.).

I can't swear that all this is actually going to work; the suggestions
I've made are the correct ways to get the code to compile, as far as I
know, but they may mask other problems. If it doesn't *run*, the author
is probably the best person to hassle. :)

>Maybe there's something wrong with my development equipment?

No, your development environment seems to be behaving exactly the same
way as mine, and I'm pretty sure mine works.

Cheers,

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kmail (kde2) and exim

[Mario Olimpio de Menezes]

Hi,

I'm trying to use kmail from kde2 as MUA but it's not relating
well with exim.
Whenever I try to send an email, after set mail smtp host and
port, exim complains about DATA being sent before RCPT TO. The exact
message is:

Response: 503 Valid RCPT TO  must preced DATA

Is there any special configuration for kmail to use exim.

[]s,
Mario O.de Menezes"Many are the plans in a man's heart, but
IPEN-CNEN/SP is the Lord's purpose that prevails"
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Apt-Get troubles

[Wikoff]

I have just installed debian with the minimum install option.  I was in the
process of using apt-get to install blackbox (my favorite windowmanager )
when I had some depend problems I let apt-get download the depends and
finished the install.

The problem I am having is now when I use apt-get I get a seg. fault:
line 20 185 seg. fault $APTGET $OPTS update 
update available list script returned error exit status 139

No matter what I do with apt-get I get a seg. fault.

Any Ideas??
Shane

Re: telnet doesn't find localhost

[Jeronimo Pellegrini]

:: Michael P Soulier writes:

> I have a /etc/init.d/network script on my potato box with these commands:

> #! /bin/sh
> ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1
> route add -net 127.0.0.0

Hm, I did

socrates:/home/jeronimo#  ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1
socrates:/home/jeronimo#  route add -net 127.0.0.0 netmask 255.0.0.0 lo

And still it didn't work.

But in my /etc/init.d/network, I had only the first line.

J.

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Re: telnet doesn't find localhost

[Jeronimo Pellegrini]

:: Christoph Simon writes:

>> > Hello...
>> > 
>> >   This is probably a known problem. I checked the BTS some time ago,
>> >   and tehre was a bug filed against telnet, I guess... It couldn't
>> >   resolve "localhost".

> Do you have an alias for localhost, something like

> 127.0.0.1 localhost   mybox.mynet

Yes:

127.0.0.1   localhost   socrates loghost

And I can't telnet to loghost either.

> I remember having had a similar problema (long time ago), and since
> then I always give a local address to ``mybox.mynet'', which is
> different from 127.0.0.1

What do you mean? How did you do that? (Or, where can I find some more
info about it?)

Thank you!
J.

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Re: fsplit

[kmself]

on Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 02:36:17PM +0200, Danny Lathouwers ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
> Dear community,
> 
> Does anyone know whether the fsplit utility is packaged?
> (fsplit splits binary or source files in more likable pieces).

$ apropos split

returns, among others, split:

$ man split

It's part of the textutils package.

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Re: DB2

[kmself]

on Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 08:37:42AM -0500, Cavaiani, Don ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
> I have downloaded DB2 for Linux from IBM.  I am on version 2.0.38.  Has
> anyone tried to install this trial DB2 on Debian yet??  Will it work with
> 2.0.38 or do I need to upgrade??
> 
> If upgrading is necessary, can someone point me to a simple set of
> instructions.  If I upgrade, will I likely lose some of the "settings" I
> currently have ??

Your kernel version shouldn't matter.

DB/2 installs vary in success.  I've had some luck installing a release
this past spring on Red Hat, though I found none of the individual
documentation sources were sufficient to make this happen.  I posted
results to a number of newsgroups, you might try a Deja search for
details.

Note that DB/2's default installation directory is something horribly
broken like /bin/db2 or /usr/db2, and that it comes in RPM only, last I
checked.

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Re: Help: gv not reading *.gz files?

[kmself]

on Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 05:12:51PM +0200, Jonathan Gift ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have no trouble reading *ps.gz files using hghostview and gv under
> Mandrake, but loading ghostview and gsfonts under Debian I find myself
> unable to open *.gz ending files. I have to uncompress them to read. Any
> thoughts? Maybe a default config Mandrake used but Debian doesn't?

Try looking at what Mandrake's "gv" executable is.  Even odds says it's
a shell script wrapper which will decompress and view a compressed file.

Try:

$ zcat foo.ps.gz > /tmp/foo.ps && gv /tmp/foo.ps

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Re: deb package documentation

[kmself]

on Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 10:19:58AM -0700, Stephen nyc ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Folks -
> 
> Where can I get a copy of the documentation included
> in a .deb package (ipmasq specifically).

What exactly do you mean?

Do you want a description of the .deb file format, or the contents of a
specific .deb file?

Format is described under the developer's section of documentation at
debian.org.  A .deb is a shell archive (shar) file, you can extract
cotents with "ar -x" on any GNU/Linux or Linux-like system.

> I haven't installed debian yet, and I'm currently
> sitting on an NT box at the office.
> 
> Is this available on-line, or do I have to get it from
> the package? Is there an NT based tool that will open
> a .deb package?

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duplicating setup machine

[John Chambers]

What are the easy ways to duplicate an existing
setup debian machine to other machines?  

John Chambers

Re: Conexion a internet

[Antonio Rodriguez]

Shortly: Thinks connects to isp with Debian 2.2 potato, modem zoltrix external 
56k,
pentium 200 ,wvdial. Netscape does not go beyond "looking"

If you want wide help, write in English -si quieres amplia ayuda, escribe en 
ingles-.


ROBERTOCALVENTE wrote:

> Hola, me llamo roberto y os escribi un e-mail el otro dia. Mi pregunta
> era y sigue siendo la siguiente:
>
> como me puedo conectar a internet con Linux?
>
> Tengo instalada la Debian 2.2 potato, un modem zoltrix externo 56k y
> pentium 200 MMX.
>
> Lo intenté con el wvdial y parece que conecta ya que el modem hace el
> ruido estridente de comprobar el ancho de banda, y luego me comprueba
> el login y el password del ISP, a continuacion me pone starting pppd.
> Por lo que supongo que ha conectado. Sin embargo, cuando ejecuto el
> netscape no entra en ninguna pagina, solo me sale conect loking
> www.direccion que le doy y ya esta no puedo entrar en ninguna pagina.
>
> Por favor, si alguien sabe como puedo arreglarlo mandenme un e-mail a
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Gracias.
>
>
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Re: Debian and Red Hat togheter

[USM Bish]

Yes, I have Slackware and Debian on the same system.
The only things I share are the swap partition, /opt 
and an unusual partition I use called /archive which 
holds my software archives, downloads, html,  music,
graphics, and shared data files.

I tried to share /home, but  gave up  because of the
userid problems between systems. Doing  with  system
dirs like /usr, /var, /etc, /tmp etc. should NOT  be 
tried because of userid, permissions, ownerships and
numerous other mismatches.

I keep several commonly used programs in /opt  which
includes mainly third party software which I install
manually to be used by both systems.  The  following
programs run  perfectly well  from /opt  across both
systems: netscape, xv, maxwell, abiword, WordPerfect
Ted, jdk1.2, nasm, BlueFish and numerous scripts and
programs. All these programs are statically linked &
would run independently. Note : "/opt/bin" is  on my 
default path set in /etc/profile of both systems.

USM Bish

On Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 12:34:07PM -0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Another question (It's half off-topic, I know):
> I'm installing Red Hat. Is there anyone that has 2 different linux OS's in
> the same machine, and was able to optimize disk space? Say, symlink a few
> directories (/home, for example) from one installation to another? It would
> not only optimize disk space, but it would keep the same user files under
> both installations.
> 
> Thanks again,
> Gaucho
> 

Re: Idea: Master Debian FAQ (newbie-centric)

[will trillich]

On Sun, Oct 22, 2000 at 02:22:35PM -0500, William Jensen wrote:
> As a newcomer to Debian I, like many since I've joined this list, ask typical
> newbie questions about the some basic things.  

> Each one of those topics probably has a handful of "how do I" associated with
> it that a very new user would "typically" ask to this list.  First off I'd 
> like
> to ask if someone has already gathered a FAQ like this for Debian.  If not,
> I'd like to volunteer my time in creating (when I have the knowledge) parts
> of the FAQ.

i KNOW there are some random, scatterd documents out there (info, manpage, html,
pod, /usr/share/doc/*, etc) but they are not centralized. there is also a
task-newbie-help package (dpkg -L task-newbie-help) but it's surface-scratch
only, at best. there's another, debian-guide (purportedly within the former,
but no so's you could tell) which has much more meat to it.

apt-get install task-newbie-help debian-guide 

but to have some recently-scarred newbies construct such a document
tree would be far preferable to having the seasoned gurus document
stuff from their perspective. where newbies need, for example,

how to connect using a modem

the gurus write

using a ppp connection

which might not 'hit home' to newbies who don't know what ppp is for.

--

maybe a good place to coordinate all this would be on sourceforge.net?

> Some basic questions come up though and these I throw out to you,
> the Debian community:
> 
> 1. Who would house/display the FAQ so it is always available.
i volunteer LINUX.SERENSOFT.COM as one mirror. the more the merrier!

> 2. Who can contribute and how?
just about anyone should be able to throw ideas at us -- but we need
some folks with serious editing chops and a multi-eyeball review
process to reduce slipups. aegis is a neat versioning/control/develop
system. might also come in handy.

there's also wml, a powerful way to craft html (or any text output)
that might make it easy to modularie the whole mess. that's what
debian-www apparently uses to maintain the debian.org site!

apt-get install aegis wml

> 3. Who does quality control checks?
if *you* write something, *someone else* (preferably in the plural) should
review it. if *i* write something, *you* should proof it. author and proofer
must not be the same person. (try it on a deadline sometime to see why!)

> 4. How do you submit an article to be included?
sourceforge.net (or anyplace like it) might be a good way to go.

> 5. What would be a successful structure/format?
here we could probably drop some questions on debian-doc mailing
list to get pointers from the long-haired pros.

> 6. Would the Debian main page hold a link to this if it's done well and 
> tailored
>toward Debian?
i'd hope so. you never know, but the debian team seems to be pretty
willing to work with folks who're trying to help the cause.

> If your interested in this project or have suggestions please feel free to 
> contact me on the list here or privately at [EMAIL PROTECTED]  It would
> be a shame to let all the talent that people on this list have stored in their
> heads go to waste by being burned out by constant repeats of the same 
> question.

quite!

unfortunately, i'm headed out-of-town for about a week, so i'll have
eight hundred messages to weed thru when i get back... keep the flame alive!

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Re: deb package documentation

[Stephen nyc]

I'm actually looking for the installation and
configuration documentation in the package ipmasq.deb.
I want to have it read and noted before I even try to
install debian and set it up.

- Steve

--- kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:
> on Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 10:19:58AM -0700, Stephen
> nyc ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > Folks -
> > 
> > Where can I get a copy of the documentation
> included
> > in a .deb package (ipmasq specifically).
> 
> What exactly do you mean?
> 
> Do you want a description of the .deb file format,
> or the contents of a
> specific .deb file?
> 
> Format is described under the developer's section of
> documentation at
> debian.org.  A .deb is a shell archive (shar) file,
> you can extract
> cotents with "ar -x" on any GNU/Linux or Linux-like
> system.


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backup/restore partitions

[Dr . Michael Koltai]

Hi,

I'd like to backup a partition (and restore). How to do that? 
I think using the 'cp' or the 'dd' programs. I'd like to create (if possible 
compressed file) from a partition ( like /dev/hda1 ) and if I need
restore from this big file. If it possible I'd like to store this on a floppy 
disk( or if  it not possible on cd ).
I'd like to store this big file on an other device(like a bigger drive).

Thanks
 Attila

Re: Conexion a internet

[Christoph Simon]

> Hola, me llamo roberto y os escribi un e-mail el otro dia. Mi pregunta 
> era y sigue siendo la siguiente:

Hola también. No sé si te has dado cuenta, pero en esta lista la
mayoría no habla español. Así puedes tener algun problema esperando
una respuesta. Pero aqui voy a intentar ayudarte.

> como me puedo conectar a internet con Linux?
>  
> Tengo instalada la Debian 2.2 potato, un modem zoltrix externo 56k y 
> pentium 200 MMX.
>  
> Lo intenté con el wvdial y parece que conecta ya que el modem hace el 
> ruido estridente de comprobar el ancho de banda, y luego me comprueba 
> el login y el password del ISP, a continuacion me pone starting pppd. 
> Por lo que supongo que ha conectado. Sin embargo, cuando ejecuto el 
> netscape no entra en ninguna pagina, solo me sale conect loking 
> www.direccion que le doy y ya esta no puedo entrar en ninguna pagina.
>  
> Por favor, si alguien sabe como puedo arreglarlo mandenme un e-mail a 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Parece que tienes problemas con la resolución de nombres, eso es, el
proceso que traduce el nombre de un computador en su direccón
numérica. Para esto necesitas editar el fichero /etc/resolv.conf y
escribir la direción de tu servidor DNS. Por exemplo:

nameserver  194.179.1.101

No sé si este es el DNS que necesitas, pregunta a tu ISP.

Salu2.

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Re: telnet doesn't find localhost

[Christoph Simon]

> > I remember having had a similar problema (long time ago), and since
> > then I always give a local address to ``mybox.mynet'', which is
> > different from 127.0.0.1
> 
> What do you mean? How did you do that? (Or, where can I find some more
> info about it?)

127.0.0.1   localhost
192.168.1.1 mybox.mynet mybox

If you don't have a NIC, try using a dummy interface, somehow.

Boa sorte.

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Re: how to upgrade from potato to woody

[Iain Georgeson]

Moritz Schulte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Iain Georgeson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I notice I don't have potato-proposed-updates in my sources.list. What
> > can I expect to find in it?
> lynx http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/dists/potato-proposed-updates
> There are (important) updates for the already released version of
> Potato.

Does that mean that one they are likely to end up in updates in due
course?

Iain.

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Re: telnet doesn't find localhost

[Christoph Simon]

> :: Michael P Soulier writes:
> 
> > I have a /etc/init.d/network script on my potato box with these 
> > commands:
> 
> > #! /bin/sh
> > ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1
> > route add -net 127.0.0.0
> 
> Hm, I did
> 
> socrates:/home/jeronimo#  ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1
> socrates:/home/jeronimo#  route add -net 127.0.0.0 netmask 255.0.0.0 lo
> 
> And still it didn't work.
> 
> But in my /etc/init.d/network, I had only the first line.

The last versions add a reasonable route automatically one you have
the interface up and running. You can test for it asking to visualize
the route just after (manually) running ifconfig. Most probably, the
route is already there. If you, then add another route, you get into
troubles; two route _are_ legal, but mean something different (see
kernel option equal cost multipath). You most probably don't want
this. So make sure you only have one.

HTH


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RE: PCMCIA issues installing potato on an old laptop

[Sean 'Shaleh' Perry]

On 22-Oct-2000 Damon Muller wrote:
> Hi gang,
> 
> I have an old 486 laptop, an NEC UltraLite VERSA, with 8m of RAM. Up
> until today I'd been happily running bo (I think, a few releases ago
> anyway) on it, mainly using it as a dumb terminal so I can lay in bed
> and read my email. For a while I'd wanted to upgrade it, mainly because
> I wanted a DHCP client on it and there is now no-where you can get
> packages for the old version. 
> 

archives.debian.org has the old trees, a bit late now (-:

Also, we now have a debian-laptop list to aid laptop users.  Think of it as
debian-user except only for laptopers.

Re: I need a specific for AC/DC Adaptor for VD56SM modem

[kmself]

on Sun, Oct 22, 2000 at 08:38:26PM +0200, Tommaso Finizio ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
> I need a specific for AC/DC Adaptor for VD56SM modem:
> output voltage and current

I'd suggest going to the manufacturer for hardware and/or specs.

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Re: deb package documentation

[kmself]

on Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 11:42:05AM -0700, Stephen nyc ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> --- kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:
> > on Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 10:19:58AM -0700, Stephen
> > nyc ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > > Folks -
> > > 
> > > Where can I get a copy of the documentation
> > included
> > > in a .deb package (ipmasq specifically).
> > 
> > What exactly do you mean?
> > 
> > Do you want a description of the .deb file format,
> > or the contents of a
> > specific .deb file?
> > 
> > Format is described under the developer's section of
> > documentation at
> > debian.org.  A .deb is a shell archive (shar) file,
> > you can extract
> > cotents with "ar -x" on any GNU/Linux or Linux-like
> > system.

> I'm actually looking for the installation and
> configuration documentation in the package ipmasq.deb.
> I want to have it read and noted before I even try to
> install debian and set it up.

You'll find these under /usr/doc/ in the .deb archive,
unpacked as described above.

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Re: backup/restore partitions

[kmself]

on Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 08:38:01PM +0200, Dr . Michael Koltai ([EMAIL 
PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'd like to backup a partition (and restore). How to do that? 
> I think using the 'cp' or the 'dd' programs. I'd like to create (if
> possible compressed file) from a partition ( like /dev/hda1 ) and if I
> need restore from this big file. If it possible I'd like to store this
> on a floppy disk( or if  it not possible on cd ).  I'd like to store
> this big file on an other device(like a bigger drive).

I strongly discourage use of dd for partition backups.  I'd strongly
encourage you to use SCSI tape for backup.


Linux Backups mini-FAQ

Karsten M. Self 
Written:  Saturday October  7, 2000
Modified:  Saturday October  7, 2000



Following are my general recommendations for system backups, with a
strong focus toward an individual workstation or small network
with relatively informal practices.  I run Debian GNU/Linux, there will
be some variants of file locations for other Linux distributions or
proprietary Unices.  Larger networks or server farms should probably
look into a more structured system.

This document is divided into discussions of:

  o Hardware
  o Software
  o What to back up
  o How to back it up
  o When to back it up
  o Further reading
  o Sample backup script



Hardware


There are several alternatives for backup hardware.  In roughly
descending order of my preference, they are:

  o SCSI tape
  o CDR-Writable or CDR-Re-writable media
  o DLT and other high-performance tape solutions
  o Magneto-Optical
  o QiC / Travan tape
  o Networked storage
  o Removable storage (120 MB Superfloppy, Zip, Jaz, Floppy)
  o Ancillary storage (Additional onboard HD storage)



SCSI


I purchased an HP SureStore 2000 DAT drive in October of 1997.  It's
been used for semi-regular backups of my home system for the past three
years.  No problems; I can recommend HP Surestore SCSI storage strongly.

In comparing costs of SCSI to other tape drive types, you'll want to
take into account both drive and media costs.  At a count of about ten
media units (tapes), the SCSI became the cheaper option -- ~$9 per 4 GB
tape rather than ~$35 for Travan/QIC cartridges.  SCSI DAT is also a
time-tested and highly dependable technology.  Pricewatch lists current
costs as HP media at $3/unit, Travan 8 GB media run $20-24.  DAT is
solid, dependable, proven technology, and the media are cheap and
reusable.  Just what you're looking for in a backup.  

What's nice about SCSI tape is that in three years of admittedly light
use -- say 1-8 times/month, I've never had a write error.  While B/U's
take some time, they only need to be run once.  My current backup script
hits key system files, announces (via wall) its progress, then rewinds
and verifies the tape, and finally rewinds and ejects it.  Minimal fuss.
I've been backing up more frequently in the past six months or so --
every couple of days if I can help it.

The downside is that tape capacity, relative to today's drive sizes, is
limited.  The system costing me about $400 new, provides ~4GB compressed
storage, which works for me, but you'll have to look at higher capacity
tape drives for your 9-40GB disks out now.  A comparably priced drive
today would have about 10-20 GB capacity, which should suffice.


   Comparative pricing of 4mm SCSI DAT units
   -
Capacity
  Vendorraw/cmpr   Cost Media
  ---
  HP2/4$120$3
  HP4/8$185$6
  HP4/8$185$6
  HP   12/24   $603   $11 *
  HP   20/40   $810   $27 **
  ---
Notes:
  * Other vendor pricing starts at ~$320.
  ** Other vendor pricing lower.
  ---


I'm citing Hewlett Packard largely as they have a good name in quality,
both anecdotally and in direct personal experience for work and private
use.  Sony's 12/24 and 20/40 drives are about half the cost of the
equivalent HP drive.  At the upper end of the range, tape changers start
appearing, with compound capacities into the hundreds of GB.



CDR / CDRW
--

Of the remaining alternatives, CDR/CDRW and QiC/Travan are probably the
most popular in current systems, and might be considered a necessity.
CD-RW drives start at about $130, with good branded drives running
$150-$160.  High-end is a Creative Labs 2x4x32x CD-RW for $189.  For
media, a CD-R 200 pack runs $147 - $261, or about $1.13/GB.

While I don't have specific experienc

where is old (3.2) Xfree86?

[David A. Rogers]

I have just inherited an old Thinkpad 365xd which I think has a DSTN
display.  From searching the net, it looks like only xfree86 3.2 works
with that display.  Does anyone know where I can find a .deb of 3.2?

Thanks,
dar

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Re: Idea: Master Debian FAQ (newbie-centric)

[Kristian Rink]

On Sun, 22 Oct 2000 14:22:35 -0500
William Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> If your interested in this project or have suggestions please feel free to 
> contact me on the list here or privately at [EMAIL PROTECTED]  It would
> be a shame to let all the talent that people on this list have stored in their
> heads go to waste by being burned out by constant repeats of the same question
Hello, List, hello Bill...

Even if it probably will be quite a bit of work, this idea sounds good to me, 
so count me in on this, as well... Obviously now that Linux and Free Software 
more or less has made the step to be interesting to people which didn't even 
think about this system short time ago, it would be a good thing to, besides 
having good software, also be able to provide good documentation to all those 
who want to get used to the new system... Personally, I'm into Linux now for 
more than four years (longer than I spent with M$Windows, actually), and, for 
my own I considered all those HOWTOs very helpful in some way since they used 
to provide quite basic introductions to get a *slight* view, to somewhat get 
started with work without reading 300 pages of documentation, before (I'm not 
having a problem with R'ingTFM, but sometimes it's just about being short of 
time, and getting rid of a problem, *quickly* ...). 

This is an important and interesting idea, let's get started. :))

Regards,
Kris


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Re: where is old (3.2) Xfree86?

[Colin Watson]

"David A. Rogers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have just inherited an old Thinkpad 365xd which I think has a DSTN
>display.  From searching the net, it looks like only xfree86 3.2 works
>with that display.  Does anyone know where I can find a .deb of 3.2?

Wow. Well, in theory you can try the source packages at
ftp://archive.debian.org/debian-archive/dists/rex/main/source/x11/>,
but I would rate your chances of getting that installed on a potato
system as slim at best. :) (rex was Debian 1.2 ...)

I think your best bet would be to get the upstream source code and try
compiling it yourself. You could then perhaps make up some dummy
packages with equivs to satisfy the various dependencies on X.

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Re: duplicating setup machine

[Wayne Topa]

Subject: duplicating setup machine
Date: Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 02:14:38PM -0400

In reply to:John Chambers

Quoting John Chambers([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> What are the easy ways to duplicate an existing
> setup debian machine to other machines?  
> 
dpkg --get-selections > packages

then on the other machine
dpkg --set-selections < packages
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Re: Help: gv not reading *.gz files?

[Colin Watson]

"Jonathan Gift" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have no trouble reading *ps.gz files using hghostview and gv under
>Mandrake, but loading ghostview and gsfonts under Debian I find myself
>unable to open *.gz ending files. I have to uncompress them to read. Any
>thoughts? Maybe a default config Mandrake used but Debian doesn't?

The gv here is happy enough with gzipped files. Maybe try literally gv
instead of ghostview? The Debian ghostview package is all but obsolete.

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Wine

[Robert Lazzurs]

Hey, I was wondering if anyone knew what happened to the wine.sym file in
the woody version of WINE.

Is there any way to generate this file, and if so could you please tell me
how.

Thanks in advance - Rab 

(PS, could you please cc me because I am not on the list, thanks)

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Re: Mail not configured. Best mail program?

[JP Sartre]

I did an apt-get upgrade today.. it upgraded sylpheed so I think it's on
the regular US sites now.. if not I'll send the deb to you..

JP

On Sat, 21 Oct 2000, Antonio Rodriguez wrote:

> Can you please indicate the site, or may be email it to me? Are the docs 
> included?
> Thanks,
> Antonio.
> 
> JP Sartre wrote:
> 
> > I have to tell you, IMHO the best GUI email proggie out there is
> > sylpheed.. it's not available on the english debian sites for some
> > reason. Because it's japanese (it supports japanese fonts) I had to grab
> > it from the japenese debian sites. It does filtering and
> > everything. Really nice.. check it out.
> >
> > P.S. If you can't find it, I can attach it .. it's small I believe.
> >
> > JP
> >
> > On Fri, 20 Oct 2000, Antonio Rodriguez wrote:
> >
> > > Since I normally use Netscape for my mail, I didn't bother to configure
> > > exim, mail and other mail programs that were in the default installation
> > > for potato. But each time I run emacs, I get some stalling while it says
> > > at the bottom : "No mail ***..., reverting to default" So, now I want to
> > > install some mailing program to stop that annoyance, and also to try
> > > something different. What is best? My internet connection is from home
> > > through AT&T provider.
> > > Thanks,
> > > A.
> > >
> > >
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Re: Conexion a internet

[KoV]

Alo amigo,

yo soy Brasiliano, entonces no sei hablar espñol
mucho bien, mas si "portuñol".
Tu tienes problemas com DNS entente editar
el arquivo /etc/resolv.conf e coloca:

nameserver 000.000.000.000

canbeando 000.000.000.000 pelo IP de su ISP

o entente instalar el pacote "named" (bind?) e colocar

namserver 127.0.0.1 

yo uso assim

excusas por qualquer erro 

=)

[]!

Em Seg, 23 Out 2000, ROBERTOCALVENTE escreveu:
> Hola, me llamo roberto y os escribi un e-mail el otro dia. Mi pregunta 
> era y sigue siendo la siguiente:
>  
> como me puedo conectar a internet con Linux?
>  
> Tengo instalada la Debian 2.2 potato, un modem zoltrix externo 56k y 
> pentium 200 MMX.
>  
> Lo intenté con el wvdial y parece que conecta ya que el modem hace el 
> ruido estridente de comprobar el ancho de banda, y luego me comprueba 
> el login y el password del ISP, a continuacion me pone starting pppd. 
> Por lo que supongo que ha conectado. Sin embargo, cuando ejecuto el 
> netscape no entra en ninguna pagina, solo me sale conect loking 
> www.direccion que le doy y ya esta no puedo entrar en ninguna pagina.
>  
> Por favor, si alguien sabe como puedo arreglarlo mandenme un e-mail a 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>  
> Gracias.
>  
> 
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Mysql error

[KoV]

hello all

my mysql server keeps telling me:

Starting MySQL database server: mysqld...failed.

I've tried to uninstall, reinstall... I remade all my http system
to try to fix it... looking inside the logs I found that it is
not finding file "host.ISM". What can I do to fix it?

thanx


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Re: a whole bunch of questions

[Martin Bialasinski]

* "robert" == robert wilhelm land <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

robert> When trying to start emacs out of a xterm with su permissions the
robert> system complaines:

robert> MINI:/home/rland# emacs
robert> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server

This is OK. You don't have permission to open widows in someone else's 
X session. Even as root. See "man xauth".

The best way allow root to open windows in the X session is to install
the ssh package, then do "ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]".

For some tweaks, create ~/.ssh/config with this content:

Host localhost
  User root
  Compression no

Compression is better turned off for local (or fast) connections, and
User root will use root as default username, so you can do just "ssh
localhost". 

Or add "alias ssu='ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]'" to ~/.bash_profile and use
"ssu" as a shortcut.

robert> The error recommends to use "xhost" - but this seems to be a
robert> GUI app

Actually, it is not. "man xhost". But better forget about it. It is a
bad solution. Don't use it.

robert> ...which states there should be somewhere a sound module, but
robert> cat /etc/modules.conf|grep -A 4 sound returnes no output.

/etc/modules.conf is not a list of available module. It just has
optional configuration for modules and some other stuff.

Check /lib/modules/ to see what modules are installed.

For a GUI, try modconf.

robert> Does dselect build up a database for all indexed packages? I
robert> cannot find wine by running "dpkg -l wine" or "dpkg -l | grep
robert> wine" although the debian installation routine was fed by all
robert> 4 CD's.

Seems like you used only apt-get so far. apt-get doesn't update the
database (/var/lib/dpkg/available) dpkg -l uses (btw, you can use dpkg
-l \*wine\*).

Either use apt-cache search wine, but this won't give you the status
(installed etc.) of a package.

Or run dselect, configure the access methode to apt, then select
"update".

If you run "apt-get update", you also have to run "dselect update" to
update this list.

Or run /usr/lib/dpkg/methods/apt/update, which will do all the
magic. Make some alias like "alias
apt-update='/usr/lib/dpkg/methods/apt/update'" for convenience.


robert> Neither does dpkg seem to support a query routine simular to
robert> rpm.

I don't know rpm. What kind of query do you mean?

Ciao,
Martin

Spanish language install disks?

[Patrick R. Wade]

I have been looking for a Spanish-language set of install disks; i get
the impression from the Spanish installation instructions that such an install
set exists, but i can't seem to find it anywhere.  Is there something i'm 
missing?  Some site i haven't seen yet?  Any pointers would be appreciated.
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Re: debian-user-digest Digest V100 #325

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