Re: killing old netscapes
On Sat, 21 Oct 2000, Daniel Barclay wrote: > > > From: Dwight Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > [Netscape] is a piece of > > shoddy and amateurish programming that is a disgrace to the profession. You have misquoted me, sir. I _never_ referred globally to Netscape as "... a piece of shoddy and amateurish programming". That is emphatically not true and I will not have you put those words in my mouth. On the contrary, Netscape is a highly useful application with many admirable features. It has been my exclusive Web browser over the past five years and I have personally found it immensely useful. I have the greatest respect for its programmers who, I am certain, are professionals of great skill and experience. _My_ reference was to one loop inside Netscape which hogs system resources and can crash a system when it is unable to continue communication with a remote host. Below is _precisely_ what _I_ said: "Netscape goes into a tight, infinite and load crushing loop when it is trying to access data from a remote Web site and the data it is expecting does not come back for one reason or another. It may be because your ppp connection died or for some reason the remote site is not sending the data. A Netscape in this loop will not allow you to communicate with it by clicking on its 'Stop' button or any other control. Such a process must usually be dealt with using 'kill -s 9 PID' or it will eventually hog all your system resources and force you to reboot. Sometimes you can get it to stop and take an exception exit by killing your pppd. "... An infinite loop like this can easily be given a timeout and allow the 'Stop' event and other navigation events to take place. It is a piece of shoddy and amateurish programming that is a disgrace to the profession." Netscape for Linux has many problems, but we must be ever thankful to the programmers who, working as volunteers and without pay, produced a free Netscape for Linux from a time several years before Netscape open-sourced its code and embraced the Free Software movement. Dwight -- Dwight Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian-user-digest Digest V100 #297
On Fri, Oct 20, 2000 at 09:46:16AM -0400, Chris Hansen wrote: > I have a small problem, I would like to be taken off the > debian users list but when I try to unsubscribe I do not find my email > address on the list that I can choose from . If anyone can help please let > me know. > Great operating system, just made the mistake of signing up > for the users list. > Christopher Hansen > Operations Administrator > Continental Resources > Wooddale, IL. 60191 > > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null hmm. your address is <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> which, with the dash in the domain name, might cause fits if the debian listbot has a less-than-robust regex it uses to check for sanctioned email address patterns. of course, it may also be that you changed your email, or signed up using account A and are trying to sign off from account B (not that i've ever experienced THAT, mind you)... -- self-reference, n: see self-reference. [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** http://www.dontUthink.com/
Re: sources.list, installing via nfs.
On Fri, Oct 20, 2000 at 12:36:00PM +0200, hypo crite wrote: > Hi all, hi will! hiya. > Thanks for crafting that apt-get-intro! It´s helpfull, but I > still have probs with my sources.list. Even after reading the > man page(s)and the files in /usr/doc/apt/examples. i kinda enjoyed crafting it. sometimes it helps clarify the flotsam rattling around the cranium when you put it into words. i can't believe that nobody saw the flaw, tho... > When I choose the nfs-mounted directory, then apt-setup can´t > find a lot of things. Of course it can´t, because I dont´t now > how to arrange the data proper. Is there any documentation > concerning that? Or any hints? > > Furthermore I tried to access a debian-ftp-mirror. I failed, > cause I´m behind a proxy. I didn´t really understood the part > with the ftp-proxy in the examples-section. Where do I > configure the proxy-port? for the directory structure, have a look at one of the FTP sites that mirror a debian distribution. there's a list at http://www.debian.org/misc/README.mirrors to get you started. scrounge around there to find a few common denominators between different mirrors, and emulate that. (this is what i'd do until i find that there is a document out there that points the way. which will probably be about seven minutes after i send this missive.) for example: my cursory investigation shows -- dists/ + potato/ + Contents-*.gz + contrib/ + binary-*/ + source/ + main/ + binary-*/ + source/ + non-free/ + binary-*/ + source/ + stable@ + unstable@ + woody/ + Contents-*.gz + contrib/ + binary-*/ + source/ + main/ + binary-*/ + source/ + non-free/ + binary-*/ + source/ as far as massaging your /var/cache/apt/* stuff, that's probably what apt-move is for, but i've not investigated that just yet. > hypocrite. most of your clan don't advertise. (my sister-in-law sure doesn't!) :) -- self-reference, n: see self-reference. [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** http://www.dontUthink.com/
Re: apt mini-intro
On Fri, Oct 20, 2000 at 04:48:20PM -0400, Wayne Topa wrote: > > Subject: apt mini-intro > Date: Thu, Oct 19, 2000 at 03:37:26PM -0500 > > In reply to:will trillich > > Quoting will trillich([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > a friend-o-mine just got up with debian 2.2/potato, and i crafted > > this little intro to apt-get... your comments are welcome. > > > Nice job Will! As a dselect replacement and a pretty nice tool > itself, take a look at aptitude (Potato). Sort of an > apt-cache/apt-get rolled into one. especially comments like that i can't wait for doogie/adam to develop a real interface for it! $ apt-cache show aptitude Package: aptitude Priority: optional Section: admin Installed-Size: 454 Maintainer: Adam Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Version: 0.0.4a-4.1 Depends: libapt-pkg2.7, libc6 (>= 2.1.2), libncurses5, libstdc++2.10 Architecture: i386 Size: 148126 MD5sum: 37e466011a34cd98b6b843f81ed36d78 Filename: dists/potato/main/binary-i386/admin/aptitude_0.0.4a-4.1.deb Description: Console based apt frontend APTITUDE is the tentative name for a new curses-based frontend to apt. Currently this is just a prototype of a lot of differe apt-related UI elements and actions; there is no central cohesion. Despite this, I still find it to be exciting enough to pursue. Yes, my friends think I'm a strange person too :) and luckily, there's an aptitude for potato! (hope it gets some updates before moving on to the woody-only release...) -- self-reference, n: see self-reference. [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** http://www.dontUthink.com/
Re: changing file attribute colors
On Fri, Oct 20, 2000 at 04:32:25PM -0400, Wayne Topa wrote: > > Subject: Re: changing file attribute colors > Date: Thu, Oct 19, 2000 at 05:02:31PM -0500 > > In reply to:will trillich > > Quoting will trillich([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > On Mon, Oct 16, 2000 at 09:12:26PM -0400, Wayne Topa wrote: > > > > > > Subject: Re: changing file attribute colors > > > Date: Mon, Oct 16, 2000 at 06:10:25PM -0500 > > > > > i just discovered that mine is a bit off, too: > > > > % dircolors > > setenv LS_COLORS '' > > > > now THAT's helpful! > > > > but my 'ls' shows colors just fine. very odd! > > > > some of this may have a LOT to do with improperly-set TERM > > variables, which i'm investigating (and not discovering > > Sorry for the delay, my monitor died last night! :-( > But this new 17" monitor is Great!! > > Have you looked at your .dircolors file? Do you have one? > (dircolors --print-database > .dircolors) > > I never had a problem with ls showing colors, Will. I have a problem > with the 'Blink' option not working when I tell it to have a > non-existent symlink blink red! I have had that set up since 94-95 > IIRC, in Slackware and SuSe. I no longer have any Slink systems > around but I thought it worked there as well. aha. % dircolors setenv LS_COLORS '' % dircolors --print-database > ~/.dircolors % dircolors !$ setenv LS_COLORS 'no=00:fi=00:di=01;34:ln=01;36:pi=40;33. much better. now, understand, that /bin/ls -F --color always showed color for me, but i had no control over it. but i'm feeling much better, now. -- self-reference, n: see self-reference. [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** http://www.dontUthink.com/
Samba across a highly weird network setup.
Ok, need help guys. We're trying to configure here a network setup for samba. Say this is setup in 2 rooms. 1st room. You have 3 machines, one that has a modem, and controls the connection, 2 workstations, on an external network (internet visible IP's), with a network cable going to a 4th machine in the 2nd room 2nd room. 3 more machines, one with a gateway type setup (hence cable mentioned above) which is also a wins server, and 2 machines using ip masquerading. Many may ask, WHY??? rofl, but situation is, we don't have enough ip's to go around. only enough to cover the 3 machines in the 1st room, and the gateway box in the 2nd. Question is, how would we enable samba to work through the gateway from the masq'd boxes to the machines on the external network. We can go masqbox > external, but can't go external > masqbox. The machines on the external network can see the names of the masq'd network, but can't access them. Anyone know how to? short of getting more ip's or bunging the whole lot on a masq'd connection? Any hints or points in the right direction would be greatly appreciated. Peter.
Re: Samba across a highly weird network setup.
God thats one weird network set up. Can I ask why the world visable IPs? I mean - do you host web pages or something? If so then those boxes should be either outside the firewall and not used as workstations, or put them inside the firewall and use port forwarding on the firewall to permit external people to access them. Other than that - you need to decide why it is like it is, and decide what tasks are most important. More IPs would help, but then they'd all be outside the masq firewall and naked and vulnerable. Not a good look. At 09:56 PM 10/22/00 +, you wrote: Ok, need help guys. We're trying to configure here a network setup for samba. Say this is setup in 2 rooms. 1st room. You have 3 machines, one that has a modem, and controls the connection, 2 workstations, on an external network (internet visible IP's), with a network cable going to a 4th machine in the 2nd room 2nd room. 3 more machines, one with a gateway type setup (hence cable mentioned above) which is also a wins server, and 2 machines using ip masquerading. Many may ask, WHY??? rofl, but situation is, we don't have enough ip's to go around. only enough to cover the 3 machines in the 1st room, and the gateway box in the 2nd. Question is, how would we enable samba to work through the gateway from the masq'd boxes to the machines on the external network. We can go masqbox > external, but can't go external > masqbox. The machines on the external network can see the names of the masq'd network, but can't access them. Anyone know how to? short of getting more ip's or bunging the whole lot on a masq'd connection? -- Criggie
Re: Samba across a highly weird network setup.
Couple of reasons for the world visables. Firstly, I got the ip's with my connection. may as well use them. Secondly it's fun to try and tie the router box, the one controlling the connection down tight enough that they can't get to the external ip boxes. And if you spend a bit of time on irc, or quake, the advantage of having a separate ip for each box works wonders. I do host the odd webpage and my own mail server, but nothing major, and that all runs off the router box. Peter. "C. Falconer" wrote: > > God thats one weird network set up. > > Can I ask why the world visable IPs? I mean - do you host web pages or > something? If so then those boxes should be either outside the firewall > and not used as workstations, or put them inside the firewall and use port > forwarding on the firewall to permit external people to access them. > > Other than that - you need to decide why it is like it is, and decide what > tasks are most important. More IPs would help, but then they'd all be > outside the masq firewall and naked and vulnerable. Not a good look. > > At 09:56 PM 10/22/00 +, you wrote: > >Ok, need help guys. We're trying to configure here a network setup for > >samba. > > > >Say this is setup in 2 rooms. > > > >1st room. > >You have 3 machines, one that has a modem, and controls the connection, > >2 workstations, on an external network (internet visible IP's), with a > >network cable going to a 4th machine in the 2nd room > > > >2nd room. > >3 more machines, one with a gateway type setup (hence cable mentioned > >above) which is also a wins server, and 2 machines using ip > >masquerading. > > > >Many may ask, WHY??? rofl, but situation is, we don't have enough ip's > >to go around. only enough to cover the 3 machines in the 1st room, and > >the gateway box in the 2nd. > > > >Question is, how would we enable samba to work through the gateway from > >the masq'd boxes to the machines on the external network. We can go > >masqbox > external, but can't go external > masqbox. The machines on the > >external network can see the names of the masq'd network, but can't > >access them. Anyone know how to? short of getting more ip's or bunging > >the whole lot on a masq'd connection? > > -- > Criggie
Re: Introduction.
> Probably wan't to make sure you've got an address. Here's one variant.
>
> $ /sbin/ifconfig ppp0 | grep 'inet addr:' | sed 's=.*inet
> addr\:\([0-9]\{1,3\}\.[0-9]\{1,3\}\.[0-9]\{1,3\}\.[0-9]\{1,3\}\).*=\1='
>
> That's all one line. It shouldn't return anything if you don't have an
> inet addr for ppp0. Otherwise, it'll return the address.
#!/bin/sh
if [ -e /var/run/ppp0.pid ] ; then
echo "Your PPP connection is up."
else
echo "Your PPP connection is down."
fi
HTH.
-jg
--
Jeremy L. Gaddis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: /boot
Hi, you will need the files in /boot bevore cylinder 1024, because your BIOS can´t read anything after this border. And the BIOS starts the booting. If you like to install Linux and another OS like M$-Windows on one harddisk, it is recommended to create an own partition for /boot. I have 8 MB for this. That is more then enough cause the files in /boot takes 1 MB. If you like to install only Debian on your harddisk you don´t need this /boot-partition. But you must set the partition / at the beginnig of your harddisk. This is neccessary. Cause this is then the bootpartition too and needs a beginning bevore cylinder 1024. Matthias - Original Message - From: ColdWater <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2000 2:50 AM Subject: /boot > List, > > First of all, hi to everyone! > Now... > I've finished my download of CD-Binary 1 and i'm ready to install Debian > Potato. I'm reading the manuals and, after some How-tos I intend to install > it. (Erase the Red Hat and put it on; leaving Win); > I have a little question and I hope someone from the list could help me with > it. > Even with the boot in before the 1024cil, is it recomended to to create a > /boot partion? > Is it good, bad or it does not matter? What about it's size. 10Mb is enough? > > Thanks! > Custodio, L. C. - Brazil! > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null >
TO ALL!
Preface : This is a little story to think about. It could change your mind, cause it´s useful to save life. Author is unknown. This story was translated on saturday october 21´th 2000 by MatMan. I´m very sorry if they are some mistakes into text. I´m a german boy (29 yet, but i have to learn!) There seems to be no copyright : Copy it. So much you like! Death Of The Innocent Girl ~ I went to a nice party dear ma, i recogniced what you said. You warned me nothing to drink dear ma, so i drunk tablewater instead of alcoholic drinks. I feeled me great and proud dear ma, like your prophecy. I didn´t drunk to drive home by car dear ma, altough others said, there is nothing that could go wrong. I know that i all did right dear ma, i know you had right all times. Now the party is finished dear ma, and all guests are driving away. I went into my car dear ma, and i knowed that i will come home fast and secure. Because you teached me your breeding very well daer ma, responsible and with great love. I drived my car into the road traffic dear ma, and then there was the traffic light on a big crossing. The traffic light shows me a green light, the right to drive dear ma, and there was a driver who don´t saw his red light. This driver had seen nothing of his read light and me dear ma, he drives simply about me and my car. This carsh catapulted me to the hard asphalt dear ma, and i heared the words of the police man. "The other driver was drunken" dear ma, And i will pay for it. I´m dying dear ma. I wish that you are here. How could that happen dear ma? My life bursted like a balloon. All around me is blood dear ma, the most of it is me. I hear the words of the doctor dear ma, "She will die". I only would say to you dear ma, "I swear it, i drunk nothing". The others had done it dear ma, the others not thought about this. He was on the same party. The only different is that he drunk. And i will die. Why the people get drunk dear ma? It can destroy their whole life. Now i feel strong pain dear ma, it stabs like a knife. The boy who drives about me is going dear ma, and i mean this is not fair. I´m here and be dying dear ma, and all what he can do is to stare at me. Say my brother he shall not weep dear ma, please write "Pas Girl" on my grave. Someone should told him dear ma, no alcohol for the driver. If they did this dear ma, i would be alife. My breath will be very slow dear ma, i´m so afraid. Please don´t weep about me dear ma, you was altimes here for me when i needed you. I have only a last question dear ma, bevore i will dismiss. I don´t drived drunk, so why i am the one who dies? Epilog : Sombody made the work to write this message. And i spend my time to translate it. Please send this message to so much people you can do. We will see whether we can build a chain around the world. A chain that can show all poeples : Alcohol and driving car does not match to each other. AS A BIG COLLECTIVE, WE CAN CHANGE SOMETHING!!
Re: /boot
On Sat, Oct 21, 2000 at 10:50:36PM -0200, ColdWater wrote: > List, > > First of all, hi to everyone! > Now... > I've finished my download of CD-Binary 1 and i'm ready to install Debian > Potato. I'm reading the manuals and, after some How-tos I intend to install > it. (Erase the Red Hat and put it on; leaving Win); > I have a little question and I hope someone from the list could help me with > it. > Even with the boot in before the 1024cil, is it recomended to to create a > /boot partion? > Is it good, bad or it does not matter? What about it's size. 10Mb is enough? i think its a better idea to split off /var /usr /home and /tmp as their own partitions, then make / 64MB or less, then it will fall under the 1024 cyl mark. if you have reasonably recent hardware then the lba32 option to potato's lilo should allow booting past that mark anyway. GNU grub also supports this. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgpoWyAydoYGE.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: TO ALL!
Hi Matthias, to send _any_ type of chain letters is anything else but a good thing, _especialy_ on mailing lists. For mor information (in German) see http://www.tu-berlin.de/www/software/hoax.shtml or more precisely http://www.tu-berlin.de/www/software/hoax.shtml#8 Please don't send any chain letters of any type here (or anywhere). Nobody want's them. Nobody needs them. Martin On Sun, 22 Oct 2000, Matthias Mann wrote: > Preface : This is a little story to think about. It could change your mind, > cause it´s useful to save life. Author is unknown. This story was > translated on saturday october 21´th 2000 by MatMan. I´m very > sorry if they are some mistakes into text. I´m a german boy (29 yet, > but i have to learn!) There seems to be no copyright : Copy it. So > much you like! > > [...] > > Epilog : Sombody made the work to write this message. And i > spend my time to translate it. Please send this message to so > much people you can do. We will see whether we can build a > chain around the world. A chain that can show all poeples : > Alcohol and driving car does not match to each other. > > AS A BIG COLLECTIVE, WE CAN CHANGE SOMETHING!! -- Linux - the last service pack you'll ever need. For public GnuPG-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: bash_history
Thanx for your trie to help me. I checked the HIST* variables and all was ok. Then i made this discovery : By typing exit for a normal logout the bashhistory will be saved. But if i use ++ for a reboot or if i use the command shutdown -h now, the bashhistory will not be saved. This was not so than i used RadHat and SuSE, which i tested bevor i get the meaning that Debian is the right thing for me. Is there any possibility to tell the bash that she shall save the history by using ++ and shutdown -h now? Matthias - Original Message - From: Erik Steffl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2000 12:16 AM Subject: Re: bash_history > I think you can turn saving of the history on/off, see man bash: > > ... >HISTSIZE > The number of commands to remember in the command > history (see HISTORY below). The default value is > 500. > >HISTFILE > The name of the file in which command history is > saved (see HISTORY below). The default value is > ß/.bash_history. If unset, the command history is > not saved when an interactive shell exits. > >HISTFILESIZE > The maximum number of lines contained in the > history file. When this variable is assigned a > value, the history file is truncated, if necessary, > to contain no more than that number of lines. The > default value is 500. The history file is also > truncated to this size after writing it when an > interactive shell exits. > ... >is overwritten. If HISTFILE is unset, or if the history >file is unwritable, the history is not saved. After >saving the history, the history file is truncated to >contain no more than HISTFILESIZE lines. If HISTFILESIZE >is not set, no truncation is performed. > ... > > erik > > Matthias Mann wrote: > > > > Yes this is a typo! Do you have any answere of my questions? > > > > - Original Message - > > From: Moritz Schulte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: > > Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 10:30 PM > > Subject: Re: bash_history > > > > "Matthias Mann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > Is there a bug in bash (Debian 2.2.0 potato)? When i go as root into my > > > system the bash don´t save anything to /root/bash_history. > > > > Is this a typo? Bash's history should be in ~/.bash_history. > > > > moritz > > -- > > /* Moritz Schulte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > * http://hp9001.fh-bielefeld.de/~moritz/ > > * PGP-Key available, encrypted Mail is welcome. > > */ > > > > -- > > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < > > /dev/null > > > > -- > > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null >
Use Mozilla M18 (was Re: killing old netscapes)
([<> On 21 Oct 2000, some witty mortal wrote: <>]) > > [Netscape] is a piece of > > shoddy and amateurish programming that is a disgrace to the > > profession. Whether there are bugs in the NS 4.x or not, and whether you like the way it was programmed as a side-thought or not, you should defintely be taking a very interested close look at the Mozilla project, and the open-source, standards compliant browser they have been working on for the past 2 or so years. People tend to easily forget that Netscape as a company moved away from developing NS 4.x and it's bugs and what-not, to resourcing the Mozilla project in a more productive manner. When I use Win98, the first thing I did was get 98lite Professional to remove the IE engine from my machine. I replaced it with Opera and Mozilla, and haven't looked back since. Mozilla M18 is very very nice... I expect the end product to be one of the greatest cross-platform browsers known to mankind, and women folk too ;o) Ard Righ S' Rioghal Mo Dhream! http://www.Challenge-NZ.com/ ([XXH<>%<>HXX])=
Re: TO ALL!
Dear Martin! I respect you and your meaning. I looked at http://www.tu-berlin.de/www/software/hoax.shtml and thik this: Ok, a chain letter could contain a virus. And i know that somebody don´t like letters like this. But have this people the right to say chain letter are always bad? Some people like to make big panic at media. Every day this happens on radio, tv and also in the internet. If i would beleve al this informaitions i had always fear to get a virus (equal whether i get it on compuer or my body) or another very bad thing will happen with me. And i´m not stupid, cause i look for the best i can do to prevent the bad result. In this case i checked my computer for viruses and nothing would be find. The chain letter seems to be clean. And don´t forget : Nobody is perfect. So please respect me if i made a mistake. I you where the owner of this newsgroup i would respect your request and you would see no more chain letters of me here. And if i think about sending another chain letter to this place i will think on you. If here are more then one people who ton´t like those letters i think it is better for all to let it be. And i think i will not send another chain letter again into this newsgroup. I got much of chain letters in the last three years and this was the only one that i liked to send it others, cause it has an important message. Are you shure that nobody wants and needs some chain letters? I think much of these letters are unnecessery. However not all! Isn´t it the content that will decide if it is unnecessery or not and not the fact that it is a chain letter? Matthias - Original Message - From: Martin Fluch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Matthias Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2000 11:13 AM Subject: Re: TO ALL! Hi Matthias, to send _any_ type of chain letters is anything else but a good thing, _especialy_ on mailing lists. For mor information (in German) see http://www.tu-berlin.de/www/software/hoax.shtml or more precisely http://www.tu-berlin.de/www/software/hoax.shtml#8 Please don't send any chain letters of any type here (or anywhere). Nobody want's them. Nobody needs them. Martin On Sun, 22 Oct 2000, Matthias Mann wrote: > Preface : This is a little story to think about. It could change your mind, > cause it´s useful to save life. Author is unknown. This story was > translated on saturday october 21´th 2000 by MatMan. I´m very > sorry if they are some mistakes into text. I´m a german boy (29 yet, > but i have to learn!) There seems to be no copyright : Copy it. So > much you like! > > [...] > > Epilog : Sombody made the work to write this message. And i > spend my time to translate it. Please send this message to so > much people you can do. We will see whether we can build a > chain around the world. A chain that can show all poeples : > Alcohol and driving car does not match to each other. > > AS A BIG COLLECTIVE, WE CAN CHANGE SOMETHING!! -- Linux - the last service pack you'll ever need. For public GnuPG-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: TO ALL!
on Sun, Oct 22, 2000 at 11:38:05AM +0200, Matthias Mann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Preface : This is a little story to think about. It could change your mind, > cause it´s useful to save life. Author is unknown. This story was > translated on saturday october 21´th 2000 by MatMan. I´m very > sorry if they are some mistakes into text. I´m a german boy (29 yet, > but i have to learn!) There seems to be no copyright : Copy it. So > much you like! > > Death Of The Innocent Girl > ~ Is this the same idiot who was asking us for spam software last week? He's earned his way into my killfile. Fool me twice, shame on me -- Karsten M. Self http://www.netcom.com/~kmself Evangelist, Opensales, Inc.http://www.opensales.org What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/http://www.kuro5hin.org GPG fingerprint: F932 8B25 5FDD 2528 D595 DC61 3847 889F 55F2 B9B0 pgpRzuF8Ctkxm.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: TO ALL!
At 01:36 PM 10/22/00 +0200, you wrote: Dear Martin! I respect you and your meaning. I looked at http://www.tu-berlin.de/www/software/hoax.shtml and thik this: Ok, a chain Too much mail chokes up my email servers - email without a definite purpose is just a waste of time and space. If its not useful to me and I didn't ask for it then I don't want it. Don't fret though - everything is a learning experience. -- Criggie
Book Recommendations...
Hi all!!! I installed Debian Linux on my Macintosh and I was looking for book recommendations for a beginner user. The most I know about Linux/Unix are the basic commands like ls, chmod, and cd. (I love shell accounts...) I'm getting really tired of switching to MacOS so I can use the Internet as a reference and there are many common questions I'm sure the book can answer that the community doesn't have to. Also, XFree86 3.3.6, FB_Dev, and Gnome doesn't seem to work properly when I try to run X Window. Is there a configuration script I need to edit or create? please email me privately if this does not benefit the list. Thanks. peace, --markemmanuel -o) "Anima Sana In Corpore Sano" (o- /\\Markemmanuel F. Rodriguez //\ _\_VV_/_ http://www.markemmanuel.org/
gmc 4.5.51 problem
Hi! I have debian 2.2 installed with glibc updated to 2.1.95 and gnome update to last packages. And I have problem with gmc (4.5.51-6) - then I try to start it, I get message: gmc --sm-client-id . No response to the SaveYourself command. The program may be slow, stopped or broken. You may wait for it to respond or remove it. There is the problem and how I can solve it? -- Best Regards. Alexey Kakunin, M.Sc.
Really strange problems with package handeling
I've got a really strange problem using dpkg apt-get and other package handeling tools when I attempt to do anyting (like: apt-get install apache) it gives the following error: shell-init: could not get current directory: getcwd: cannot access parent directories: No such file or directory What does this error mean and what can I do about it Also I've got in my syslog and message log a lot of messages like: Oct 21 01:10:13 Mercury kernel: VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for init... Oct 21 01:10:13 Mercury kernel: VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for bitchx... And many more for every program I'm running. Its also allmost at the exact time I'm installing/removing packages could this be related and if so how do I fix it everything seems to be going wrong on my machine lately Ikarus mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Book Recommendations...
On Sun, Oct 22, 2000 at 05:40:55AM -0500, MarkEmmanuel wrote: > Hi all!!! I installed Debian Linux on my Macintosh and I was looking for > book recommendations for a beginner user. The most I know about Linux/Unix > are the basic commands like ls, chmod, and cd. (I love shell accounts...) > I'm getting really tired of switching to MacOS so I can use the Internet as > a reference and there are many common questions I'm sure the book can answer > that the community doesn't have to. If you want to learn about commands have a look at "Linux in a Nutshell" from O'Reilly (IMHO O'Reilly is always a good choice) But there is also much documentation on the Web i.e http://www.linuxdoc.org > Also, XFree86 3.3.6, FB_Dev, and Gnome doesn't seem to work properly when I > try to run X Window. Is there a configuration script I need to edit or > create? You should describe more precisely what goes wrong. The main config-file for XF86 is /etc/X11/XF86Config. It is generated by programs like XF86Setup. If XF86 works then gnome should work out of the box. I don't know much about Framebuffers, sorry. Phil
cgi-bin security
I administer a couple of linux machines (potato based), and have a user which want to run cgi-bin scripts, and I would like to know if there are security concerns. Currently all cgi-bin scripts which run are in /usr/lib/cgi-bin and owned by root. As far as I can tell Apache is configured to look only there for such scripts. My recollection is that is used to be otherwise. There is apparently an Apache option to allow users to run cgi scripts called suEXEC, but this looks like I could open myself for trouble than it is worth. On the other hand, there appears to be an easy solution, but I am unclear as the the security implications. Here is the proposed solution. To allow userX to execute cgi scripts from ~userX/public_html/cgi-bin, (As root) cd /usr/lib/cgi-bin mkdir userX cd userX ln -s ~userX/public_html/cgi-bin cgi-bin Then userX can access her scripts via http:// hostname/cgi-bin/userX/cgi-bin/script_name.cgi Since apache runs as www-data, does www-data own the cgi script? Does the user own the script? If the script executes rm -rf /*, what happens? Thanks for any advice. Thomas R. Shemanske Department of Mathematics Dartmouth College
Installing tar files
I'm attempting to install a .tar.gz file.. I've successfully gunzip the file, but I've forgotten how to complete the rest of the installation process.. HELP!!! = Shel ICQ- 23454126 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trying to master Storm Linux 2000 http://www.stormix.com/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/
XDV -thorough and greyscaling
Hi - I've noticed a strange problem with xdvi under potato and slink using the svga X server (XFree86 3.3.6 and Diamond stealth Rendition chipset vidio card). when using using xdvi with the thorough flag set to true, tables lines and other line graphincs do not appear - only text shows. If I then toggle grey scaling with the G option in xdvi then turn grey scaling back on again (ie pressing G twice) - the page displays correctly. I found one work around for this problem suggested by someone one the debian developer's list I think: using the -copy option instead of -thorough, but the display does not properly handle overprinting of text on lines (not good for musixtex) Another post I read somewhere else suggested this might be a bug in the svga X server, so does any one running XF86 version 4 also have this problem? has anyone else who has had this problem found a neater work around. Pressing G twice is not a major hassle, but I would prefer it to display properly first time :) thanks, Today people in droves hurry up past Heumoz to Villars on the road to the ski hills, so they can rush down them as fast as possible, so they can hurry up again in order to rush down again. In a way this is funny,... Francis A Schaeffer David Purton http://www.chariot.net.au/~dcpurton/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
lpr broken by woody package
I wanted to use woody's rpm and apt-get upgraded my libc. Now lpr is no longer working. How do I get it back? I have tried magicfilterconfig but although the file is spooled, connection to /dev/lp1 is refused. I have also tried /dev/lp0 without success. Johann -- J.H. Spies - Tel. 082 782 0336 "But what things were gain to me, those I counted loss for Christ." Philippians 3:7
ext2 (kernel 2.2) view from Windows?
Hi, Are any programs in Windows to mount an ext2 partition (kernel 2.2)? After I installed a potato system with kernel 2.2.12 (formating the ext2 partitions) the old Windows ext2fs don't work. Thanks, Dan Pomohaci
Re: mv multiple files w/wildcard
Lance Hoffmeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I have a number of subdirectories where I have files with - such as >name - title.txt and I wish to convert them to: >name: title.txt > >In bash I tried: > >for i in *-*;do mv $i `echo $i | sed -e 's/ - /:/'`'done > >but this gives me an error about moving multiple files and needing a directory You need some additional quoting: for i in *-*; do mv "$i" "`echo $i | sed -e 's/ - /: '`"; done ... works for me. >I also tried on e-line perl script > >perl -we '($new=$_) =~tr/\s-\s/:\s/ && rename _$,$new' ^^ Did you mean $_ here? >but I get uninitialized value errors. Yes, because Perl doesn't normally automatically iterate over its input; you can do it manually, or various switches, like -n, cause it to do so. tr/// is the wrong operator to use, too; see 'perldoc perlop'. This works: ls -1 | perl -wne 'chomp; ($new=$_) =~ s/ - /: / and rename $_, $new' You could also opendir() and readdir() yourself, though that's probably too much effort for a one-liner. And, as somebody else has said, you might as well just use the rename(1p) utility that comes with Perl. >Also, how would I use these for multiple subdirectories at once? Look for the recent discussion on this list on the use of find and xargs. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing tar files
Shel Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I'm attempting to install a .tar.gz file.. I've successfully gunzip the >file, but I've forgotten how to complete the rest of the installation >process.. HELP!!! 'tar xzvf filename.tar.gz' is the usual incantation; run 'tar tzvf filename.tar.gz' first to find out where it's going to put things. If you've already gunzipped it, leave out the 'z' flag. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ext2 (kernel 2.2) view from Windows?
Dan Pomohaci <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Are any programs in Windows to mount an ext2 partition (kernel 2.2)? >After I installed a potato system with kernel 2.2.12 (formating the >ext2 partitions) the old Windows ext2fs don't work. I believe http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/Explore2fs.htm works, but I can't remember whether I tried it out before or after starting to use 2.2-formatted filesystems. It looks promising, though, from an entry in the changelog: # version 1.00 pre 2e # - 27-4-2000 # [...] # - added detection of features (based on kernel 2.2.14) -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing tar files
--- Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Shel Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >I'm attempting to install a .tar.gz file.. I've successfully gunzip the > >file, but I've forgotten how to complete the rest of the installation > >process.. HELP!!! > > 'tar xzvf filename.tar.gz' is the usual incantation; run 'tar tzvf > filename.tar.gz' first to find out where it's going to put things. If > you've already gunzipped it, leave out the 'z' flag. > > -- > Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ok, I've run the tar tzvf filename.tar.gz command.. what's next??.. isn't there some kind of an 'install' command?? = Shel ICQ- 23454126 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trying to master Storm Linux 2000 http://www.stormix.com/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/
Re: gmc 4.5.51 problem
* "Alexey" == Alexey Kakunin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Alexey> I have debian 2.2 installed with glibc updated to 2.1.95 and Alexey> gnome update to last packages. And I have problem with gmc Alexey> (4.5.51-6) - then I try to start it, I get message: Alexey> gmc --sm-client-id . Alexey> No response to the SaveYourself command. Alexey> The program may be slow, stopped or broken. Alexey> You may wait for it to respond or remove it. libc6 problem I believe. Complain to the glibc maintainer. Also compare with http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=74905&repeatmerged=yes [...] It seems that something is really broken now, because I logged in as a root into my workstation from there I logged with my normal account into NFS server, removed metadata.db (and metadata.lock directory), tried to login with my normal account and now I can't even start gmc. Well, I can start it, but nothing comes on screen and after a while I get "No response to SaveYourserlf command ...". Actually, when I was finalizing this letter, I noticed that gmc icons started to pop-up one by one, but its still so slow that its practically useless. I guess I'll just have to wait and see if some libraries get updated or new versions pop up from gnome packages. As last resort, I can always downgrade myself back to stable... [...] He recompiled the package himself, and this fixed it. Ciao, Martin
Re: Installing tar files
Shel Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >--- Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Shel Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >I'm attempting to install a .tar.gz file.. I've successfully gunzip the >> >file, but I've forgotten how to complete the rest of the installation >> >process.. HELP!!! >> >> 'tar xzvf filename.tar.gz' is the usual incantation; run 'tar tzvf >> filename.tar.gz' first to find out where it's going to put things. If >> you've already gunzipped it, leave out the 'z' flag. > >Ok, I've run the tar tzvf filename.tar.gz command.. what's next??.. isn't >there some kind of an 'install' command?? Not a generic one, no; this is what packaging systems are for. Read the documentation in the tarball to find out how to install it. There's often an INSTALL file. A common sequence of commands for building and installing from source is: ./configure make make install (this one needs to be done as root, the others don't) ... but check the contents of the tarball first. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing tar files
> Ok, I've run the tar tzvf filename.tar.gz command.. what's next??.. isn't > there some kind of an 'install' command?? ^^^ Normally there isn't an unique install command, like unix isn't unique ... Change to the newly created directory (cd xxx) and read the README (yes) or INSTALL file there. A frequent procedure is 1) ./configure 2) make 3) make install (you have to be become root to install your compiled program) HTH PD 1) I don't know which program you're going to install, but make sure there isn't a debian package yet. 2) Maybe a basic book on linux could clarify those procedures (for free you could have a look at www.linuxdoc.org before) -- (Dr.) Michael Hummel mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fprint = F24D EAC6 E3D7 372C 9122 D510 EB24 01CA 0B56 B518 key: http://www.seitung.net/key pgpGGrv0ZW4tE.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: gcc file : specs ; need infos
"Matthias Mann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I like to understand the specs file of gcc. In man gcc i had found no >information about that. Do you know a HOWTO or another document where i can >find an explanation of this file? 'info gcc', "Target Macros", "Driver". -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: lpr broken by woody package
I had a similar problem. My old printer broke and the libc upgrade happened before I installed a new one, so I don't know if there is a connection or not. When I installed the new printer and magicfilter I got the same type of error. I then tried replacing lpr with lprng and the printer started working. I assumed I had some sort of configuration problem, but possibly it is related to lpr and the new libc in woody. You might try using lprng. Bob On Sun, Oct 22, 2000 at 03:58:15PM +0200, Johann Spies wrote: > I wanted to use woody's rpm and apt-get upgraded my libc. Now lpr is > no longer working. > > How do I get it back? > > I have tried magicfilterconfig but although the file is spooled, > connection to /dev/lp1 is refused. I have also tried /dev/lp0 without > success. > > Johann > -- > J.H. Spies - Tel. 082 782 0336 > "But what things were gain to me, those I counted loss > for Christ." Philippians 3:7 > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null -- Bob Nielsen, N7XY [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bainbridge Island, WA http://www.oz.net/~nielsen
Re: TO ALL!
> "kms" == kmself writes: kms> Is this the same idiot who was asking us for spam software kms> last week? That's one thread I'm glad I missed! I can't believe anyone is taking even five seconds to dialogue with this nitwit! Sheesh. Throw him off the list. Period. Easy. kms> He's earned his way into my killfile. Fool me twice, shame kms> on me I hear ya. -- Bob Bernstein at Esmond, R.I., USA
isdn-problem
Hi, I'm debian newby and have set up a linux box running debian 2.2 (potato) with kernel 2.2.17. Furthermore I have set up an isdn interface teles16.3 non-pnp running with hisax on ippp0. The following problem occured: On starting the system and the isdn services, my ippd0 establishes a connection to my isp nameserver (IP-address:port 53) every 10 minutes without any user activity. I have configuration files in /etc/isdn but no idea which flag to set. Can anybody help? thx stephan
Re: Introduction.
On Sun, Oct 22, 2000 at 02:31:18AM -0500, Jeremy Gaddis wrote:
> > Probably wan't to make sure you've got an address. Here's one variant.
> >
> > $ /sbin/ifconfig ppp0 | grep 'inet addr:' | sed 's=.*inet
> > addr\:\([0-9]\{1,3\}\.[0-9]\{1,3\}\.[0-9]\{1,3\}\.[0-9]\{1,3\}\).*=\1='
> >
> > That's all one line. It shouldn't return anything if you don't have an
> > inet addr for ppp0. Otherwise, it'll return the address.
>
> #!/bin/sh
> if [ -e /var/run/ppp0.pid ] ; then
> echo "Your PPP connection is up."
> else
> echo "Your PPP connection is down."
> fi
>
> HTH.
>
> -jg
>
> --
> Jeremy L. Gaddis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
The above script works fine .
A third option is to use "pon" itself with some
dedicated program for monitoring the connections.
There is a nice program which has come out quite
recently called "pppstatus" which I got from the
freshmeat.net links (author: Gabriel Montenegro)
This is a nice console based program,which gives
you all the functions you need to monitor an ISP
line. Features include connect notification, IP
address, current speed, top speed, online time,
Tx and Rx packets, bytes received/ transmitted and
errors.You can have this running constantly either
on a console or on an x-term throughout your net
sojourn.
I can mail the source tarball in personal mail
(13322 bytes).
USM Bish
Re: Mail not configured. Best mail program?
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Antonio Rodriguez wrote: >I tried to find it, but it does not exist as deb package. Does any body know >where the >debs are for pine? Yes, what you need to do is get the pine4-src package (which is in the non-free section, so update your sources.list file to include the non-free stuff). Then after, you install that type the command "build-pine" (I think, can't remember the exact command off the top of my head) and a deb for Pine will be built. --- === Arcadio A. Sincero Jr. Computer Science Major at the University of Maryland Baltimore County, Linux systems administrator, wanna-be Windows and Linux software developer, amateur competitive bodybuilder and all-around nice guy. WWW: http://www.arcadio.net/~asincero (COMING REAL SOON NOW(tm)!) E-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "Only *I* can prevent narcissism!"
Re: cannot open '/dev/lp1' - 'No such device or address'
Check dmesg. Re-confirm where your lp device is polled. USM Bish On Sun, Oct 22, 2000 at 02:35:59AM +0200, Moritz Schulte wrote: > Mark Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Status: cannot open '/dev/lp1' - 'No such device or address', > > attempt 2, sleeping 20 at 07:47:26.313 > > Hmm, you know that since Linux 2.2, the first printer is /dev/lp0? > > moritz > -- > /* Moritz Schulte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > * http://hp9001.fh-bielefeld.de/~moritz/ > * PGP-Key available, encrypted Mail is welcome. > */ > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null >
Re: TO ALL!
On Sun, Oct 22, 2000 at 01:36:10PM +0200, Matthias Mann wrote: > Are you shure that nobody wants and needs some chain letters? I think much > of these letters are unnecessery. However not all! Isn´t it the content that > will decide if it is unnecessery or not and not the fact that it is a chain > letter? This mailing list (not newsgroup, by the way) is for discussion of Debian and related topics. Your chain letter has nothing to do with Debian, nor even unix or computers in general. Therefore, based on the content of your chain letter, it was not appropriate here. -- "Two words: Windows survives." - Craig Mundie, Microsoft senior strategist "So does syphillis. Good thing we have penicillin." - Matthew Alton Geek Code 3.1: GCS d- s+: a- C++ UL++$ P+>+++ L+++> E- W--(++) N+ o+ !K w---$ O M- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t 5++ X+ R++ tv b+ DI D G e* h+ r++ y+
Re: TO ALL!
kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: > on Sun, Oct 22, 2000 at 11:38:05AM +0200, Matthias Mann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > wrote: > > Preface : This is a little story to think about. It could change your mind, > > cause it´s useful to save life. Author is unknown. This story was > > translated on saturday october 21´th 2000 by MatMan. I´m very > > sorry if they are some mistakes into text. I´m a german boy (29 yet, > > but i have to learn!) There seems to be no copyright : Copy it. So > > much you like! > > > > Death Of The Innocent Girl > > ~ > > Is this the same idiot who was asking us for spam software last week? Yup. Same guy. > He's earned his way into my killfile. Fool me twice, shame on me And now mine. -- Mike Werner KA8YSD | He that is slow to believe anything and | everything is of great understanding, '91 GS500E| for belief in one false principle is the Morgantown WV | beginning of all unwisdom. pgpW3Rl8e8ALa.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: (Psion) plptools compilation error
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Has anyone managed to compile plptools (unfortunately there's no >Debian package)? I found no email address, and I couldn't even find >out who's the author. Where can we get the source code? >I get this error on my up-to-date potato system: > >Making all in plpftp >make[1]: Entering directory `/home/andre/plptools-0.6/plpftp' >g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../include -I../lib-O2 -Wall -c ftp.cc >ftp.cc: In function `int checkAbortHash(long int)': >ftp.cc:169: implicit declaration of function `int printf(...)' >ftp.cc:169: `stdout' undeclared (first use this function) Looks like somebody forgot to #include . -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: isdn-problem
On Sun, Oct 22, 2000 at 06:37:38PM +0200, Stephan Kiesel wrote: > On starting the system and the isdn services, my ippd0 > establishes a connection to my isp nameserver (IP-address:port 53) every 10 > minutes without any user activity. I have configuration files in /etc/isdn > but no idea which flag to set. Can anybody help? Look at /etc/isdn/device.ippp0 and search for DIALMODE. This should be set to "manual" unless you know what you are doing. Phil
I need a specific for AC/DC Adaptor for VD56SM modem
I need a specific for AC/DC Adaptor for VD56SM modem: output voltage and current
Recording mp3 files to a CD
I've been trying to record a few audio .mp3 files to a CD-R. The CD-Writing-HOWTO says to use mpg123 with a --cdr option to create the correct format, which can then be written to the CD with cdrecord, however the version of mpg123 in potato (0.59r-6) does not appear to support this and I can't find a new version. I tried decoding the mp3 without --cdr and was able to write to a CD-R disc. When I attempt to play it back the tracks are recognized but there is no audio output. I also tried using freeamp with the waveout.pmo plugin to create a .wav file from a .mp3 file. This is supposed to cause the .wav file to be written in ~/MyMusic, but nothing appears there. Has anyone on the list figured out how to record mp3 to a CD? Is there a version of sox which supports the mp3 format? -- Bob Nielsen, N7XY [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bainbridge Island, WA http://www.oz.net/~nielsen
DSL dns problems
Hello, I wonder if anyone has any input on some serious dns problems I'm having w/ swbell's dsl service. I'm using dhcpcd, and over the last week or so (after a new system install) I'm having serious speed/name resolution problems. Pings and traceroutes are running from 50ms up to 200ms, if I can even get to the targets at all. My question is, could this be some configuration problem on my end, or are their dns servers having serious problems? Does anyone have any ideas on anything I should check, before complaining to swbell? Thanks for any input. Steve
Re: TO ALL!
On Sun, Oct 22, 2000 at 01:36:10PM +0200, Matthias Mann wrote: > > Some people like to make big panic at media. Every day this happens on > radio, tv and also in the internet. If i would beleve al this informaitions > i had always fear to get a virus (equal whether i get it on compuer or my > body) or another very bad thing will happen with me. And i´m not stupid, > cause i look for the best i can do to prevent the bad result. In this case i > checked my computer for viruses and nothing would be find. The chain letter > seems to be clean. And don´t forget : Nobody is perfect. So please respect > me if i made a mistake. don't propagate a chain letter through a list group. not cool. we all signed up to exchange information about debian and its related software. rudness of the first degree, to use that forum to broadcast unrelated junk. don't. > I you where the owner of this newsgroup i would respect your request and you > would see no more chain letters of me here. And if i think about sending > another chain letter to this place i will think on you. If here are more > then one people who ton´t like those letters i think it is better for all to > let it be. And i think i will not send another chain letter again into this > newsgroup. I got much of chain letters in the last three years and this was > the only one that i liked to send it others, cause it has an important > message. i don't own the newsgroup. nobody really does -- it's a community of folk who want to share info regarding debian. if you insist on stumping for your pet projects, please have the decorum to send it directly to people you know, who aren't likely to be offended by your efforts. > Are you shure that nobody wants and needs some chain letters? I think much > of these letters are unnecessery. However not all! Isn´t it the content that > will decide if it is unnecessery or not and not the fact that it is a chain > letter? i can't say i speak for everybody, but i can say with certainty that *I* do not like them, want them, appreciate them, or tolerate them. i don't know of anyone (over the age of 13) who even thinks they are entertaining. unless it's a chain-letter spoof, that's well executed. but even then, it would not belong on this list. people on a newsgroup have a lot of control over the messages they receive, and several of the posts that followed your message indicated that you're in their killfile. that means they AUTOMATICALLY delete any messages coming from you. so if you're asking for help, you won't get it, because you already encouraged them to tune you out. debian-user is for debian information exchange. think, THEN act. -- self-reference, n: see self-reference. [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** http://www.dontUthink.com/
Re: cgi-bin security
On Sun, Oct 22, 2000 at 09:06:48AM -0400, Thomas R. Shemanske wrote: > I administer a couple of linux machines (potato based), and have a user > which want to run cgi-bin scripts, and I would like to know if there are > security concerns. > > Currently all cgi-bin scripts which run are in /usr/lib/cgi-bin and > owned by root. As far as I can tell Apache is configured to look only > there for such scripts. My recollection is that is used to be > otherwise. There is apparently an Apache option to allow users to run > cgi scripts called suEXEC, but this looks like I could open myself for > trouble than it is worth. > > On the other hand, there appears to be an easy solution, but I am > unclear as the the security implications. Here is the proposed > solution. > > To allow userX to execute cgi scripts from ~userX/public_html/cgi-bin, order allow,deny allow from all Options +Indexes +Includes -FollowSymLinks Options +ExecCGI SetHandler cgi-script or maybe Options +ExecCGI SetHandler cgi-script there are other methods (tmtowtdi). don't cut & paste unless you understand the security implications! > Then userX can access her scripts via http:// > hostname/cgi-bin/userX/cgi-bin/script_name.cgi better yet, http://server.name.here/~username/cgi/scripts or http://the.server/~login/something.cgi respectively. > Since apache runs as www-data, does www-data own the cgi script? Does > the user own the script? If the script executes rm -rf /*, what > happens? users should have ownership of their own scripts, so that their scripts can do no more damage than they can at the shell. also be conscious of group membership for your users, and the consequences. % groups someusername see who's in which groups # usermod change default and auxiliary groups for any user (as root) % ls -l directory/ see user/group ownership per file -- self-reference, n: see self-reference. [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** http://www.dontUthink.com/
Idea: Master Debian FAQ (newbie-centric)
Greetings folks, As a newcomer to Debian I, like many since I've joined this list, ask typical newbie questions about the some basic things. If we take a step back and look at the big picture there is a basic group of things new users want to get accomplished. For example most users want to send mail to other people. While we could say to them "go RTFM!" that is hardly what they are asking for. If they did take that RTFM advice...how many of them do you think would stay around? Not a lot likely. HOWTO's, README's, etc are fine and dandy and very informative once you have a base knowledge under your belt and you can appreciate what they are. But for someone that is "brand new" it is just overwhelming. What I'm getting around to saying is how can we, the Debian community, set up some newbie FAQ's that are tailored specifically at the very new person trying out linux and doesn't want "every switch" explained in detail. Most people, if I am not mistaken, want easy to understand documentation that gets them up and running fast with concrete examples of the cmd in action for a variety of "most used" scenarios. Take the following topics: email, ssh, http, sound, xwindows, security, word processors, tar Each one of those topics probably has a handful of "how do I" associated with it that a very new user would "typically" ask to this list. First off I'd like to ask if someone has already gathered a FAQ like this for Debian. If not, I'd like to volunteer my time in creating (when I have the knowledge) parts of the FAQ. Some basic questions come up though and these I throw out to you, the Debian community: 1. Who would house/display the FAQ so it is always available. 2. Who can contribute and how? 3. Who does quality control checks? 4. How do you submit an article to be included? 5. What would be a successful structure/format? 6. Would the Debian main page hold a link to this if it's done well and tailored toward Debian? Again, I'd like to be part of this and am willing do devote some of my time to getting easy to understand documentation out to newbies...of which I still consider myself a member. I have several other newbie friends that I provide tech support to on linux and most of the time I end up referring them to a spot on my home website that I have documented how I was able to get things working for myself. If your interested in this project or have suggestions please feel free to contact me on the list here or privately at [EMAIL PROTECTED] It would be a shame to let all the talent that people on this list have stored in their heads go to waste by being burned out by constant repeats of the same question. Regards, Bill Jensen
Re: lpr broken by woody package
> libc in woody. You might try using lprng. Thanks. It worked! Johann -- J.H. Spies - Tel. 082 782 0336 "But what things were gain to me, those I counted loss for Christ." Philippians 3:7
VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed
Hello,
I have a few questions:
1) Has anyone out there managed to fix the kernel VM problem by
upgrading to the 2.4 kernel?
Oct 22 03:11:26 debian kernel: VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for rxvt...
Oct 22 03:11:26 debian last message repeated 2 times
Oct 22 03:11:26 debian kernel: VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for init...
Oct 22 03:11:26 debian kernel: VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for init...
Oct 22 03:11:26 debian kernel: VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for netstat...
Other people have reported this problem on the list and it was recommended
that they upgrade to 2.2.18, but searching around with google and
dejanews I found a few 2.2.18 people who were still having the same problem.
2) How do you know if you are running a "pre" kernel version?
In order to upgrade to 2.2.18 I think I have to apply Alan Cox's patch
against 2.2.17pre20 or something, but I have no idea where to get
2.2.17pre20. At kernel.org they didn't list "pre" kernels, just
2.2.15, 2.2.16, 2.2.17, etc. I assumed that the listings at kernel.org
where the the "final" versions, so I gave 2.2.17 a shot. It seems
to work a little better than the stock Debian 2.2 kernel (2.2.17pre6 ?)
in that it doesn't crash as much, but the VM problem is still there.
I just don't understand the whole "pre" thing.
3) Isn't 'dpkg -i kernel-image-2.2.17_custom.1.0_i386.deb' supposed to
install a kernel named /boot/vmlinuz_2.2.17-Custom.1.0 ???
Instead, it simply overwrote my previous kernel image (/boot/vmlinux-2.2.17):
{acano} [~]$ ls -l /vm*
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 20 Oct 19 14:24 /vmlinuz ->
/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.17
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 19 Sep 16 07:10 /vmlinuz.old ->
boot/vmlinuz-2.2.17
Debian FAQ section 9.2:
"""
* Install the package created.
* `Run dpkg --install /usr/src/kernel-image-VVV_Custom.N.deb'
to install the kernel itself. The installation script will:
* run the boot loader, LILO (if it is installed),
* install the custom kernel in
/boot/vmlinuz_VVV-Custom.N, and set up appropriate
symbolic links to the most recent kernel version.
* prompt the user to make a boot floppy. This boot
floppy will contain the raw kernel only. See Section
9.3, `How can I make a custom boot floppy?'.
"""
4) Will I need to upgrade anything else if I move up to the 2.4 kernels?
Thanks :)
Re: DSL dns problems
On Fri, Oct 20, 2000 at 10:22:42PM -0500, steve wrote: > Pings and traceroutes are running from 50ms up to 200ms, if I can even > get to the targets at all. > > My question is, could this be some configuration problem on my end, or > are their dns servers having serious problems? Verify that nothing in your local config has changed, try pinging several different hosts in different areas (if the problem is just with one host or subnet, the problem could be on their end), then call your telco. If this were a DNS problem, there would be a delay before the first ping was sent (while DNS does hostname-to-IP translation), but the ping times would be unaffected (since they're sent to the IP address, not the hostname). -- "Two words: Windows survives." - Craig Mundie, Microsoft senior strategist "So does syphillis. Good thing we have penicillin." - Matthew Alton Geek Code 3.1: GCS d- s+: a- C++ UL++$ P+>+++ L+++> E- W--(++) N+ o+ !K w---$ O M- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t 5++ X+ R++ tv b+ DI D G e* h+ r++ y+
Re: VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed
On Sun, Oct 22, 2000 at 15:40:58 -0500, Angelo Cano wrote: > 2) How do you know if you are running a "pre" kernel version? Run "uname -r". > In order to upgrade to 2.2.18 I think I have to apply Alan Cox's patch > against 2.2.17pre20 or something, but I have no idea where to get > 2.2.17pre20. At kernel.org they didn't list "pre" kernels, just > 2.2.15, 2.2.16, 2.2.17, etc. It does, but in a different location: /pub/linux/kernel/people/alan/ . Alan's release notes for 2.2.18pre17 include :Must fix stuff left to do for 2.2.18final [...] :- Get to the bottom of the VM mystery if possible > I just don't understand the whole "pre" thing. What's there to understand? Linus is focussing on 2.4; Alan and others are still working on the 2.2.x series; Alan bundles their patches and makes them available as prereleases; once they're sufficiently stable, they may get Linus' blessing and be released as an official 2.2.x kernel. HTH, Ray -- Cyberspace, a final frontier. These are the voyages of my messages, on a lightspeed mission to explore strange new systems and to boldly go where no data has gone before.
Re: Introduction.
Rick Hayner wrote: > > Hello to all here. > > I am a very new debian user, and I have some questions, as well as I > want to introduce myself. > > My name is Rick Hayner, and I am 52 years of age, totally blind since > birth, and also have mild Cerebral Palsy. > > I have been a debian user since sunday. I'm looking for some > information concerning the /etc directory structure. because of the > way the confituration utility is written, i am having some problems > using it, so I would like to be able to find out where the > configuration files for different packages are installed. Any just read the files, mostof the packages have the config file the same (or similar) to either package name or program name. Config files for X programs are (mostly?) under /etc/X11 I think you're just going to have to go through the files, read them, read the comments etc... at least that's what I do. it often helps to use dpkg -L packageName to find out which files were installed... note that some config files are automatically generated from files that each package provides - for example /etc/modules.conf > documentation concerning this would be emencely helpful. I have been > using slackware for a year and a half, but now that I've used apt-get, > there is no way I'm ever changing distros again. > > I have one other comment. I had to have pon modified, because when it > is run as it is installed, there is nothing echoed to the terminal or > the console to tell me whether my connection succeded or failed. I ... > it in the background solved this problem for me. If anyone has a > better suggestion, I'd like to hear about it. try: tail -f /var/log/ppp.log it won't notify you automatically but if you read it you will see what's going on... erik
Re: Book Recommendations...
on Sun, Oct 22, 2000 at 05:40:55AM -0500, MarkEmmanuel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Hi all!!! I installed Debian Linux on my Macintosh and I was looking for > book recommendations for a beginner user. The most I know about Linux/Unix > are the basic commands like ls, chmod, and cd. (I love shell accounts...) > I'm getting really tired of switching to MacOS so I can use the Internet as > a reference and there are many common questions I'm sure the book can answer > that the community doesn't have to. My standard book plug follows. Linux Books mini-FAQ Karsten M. Self Written: Saturday October 7, 2000 Modified: Saturday October 7, 2000 In response to the perennial "read any good books" lately question, vis-a-vis Linux and Unix, I've compiled the following. Prices are approximate. General Linux & getting started guides. Mark G. Sobell, _A Practical Guide to Linux_, Addison-Wesley, © 1997 ISBN 0-201-89549-8, US$40 Matt Welsh and Lar Kaufman, _Running Linux, 3rd Edition_ O'Reilly, © 2000. ISBN 1-56592-151-8, US$30 General Linux/Unix system administration -- more advanced topics. Each of these references is a classic. You don't need all three (though I've got a copy of each), but you'll find within each the distilled wisdom of experienced system administrators. AEleen Frisch, _Essential System Administration : Help for Unix System Administrators_, O'Reilly, © 1996, 788 pages. ISBN 1-56592-127-5. US$35 Evi Nemeth, Garth Snyder, Scott Seebass, Trent R. Hein _UNIX System Administration Handbook_ (Bk\CD ROM), Prentice Hall, © 1995, 780 pages, ISBN: 0-13151-051-7. US$75 M. Carling, Stephen Degler, & James Dennis, _Linux System Administration_, New Riders, © 2000, 337 pages. ISBN 1-56205-934-3. US$30 It was the following two books (actually, the earlier _UNIX in a Nutshell_) which put me "over the hump" in becoming familiar and experienced with Unix and Linux. I still refer frequently to each text when trying to accomplish a complex system task or needing command syntax and examples that the man pages just don't provide. Brief command and system reference: Ellen Siever, Stephen Spainhour, Stephen Figgins, Jessica P. Hekman _Linux in a Nutshell, 3rd Edition_, O'Reilly, © 2000, 650 pages, ISBN 1-56592-167-4. US$35 Shell and tools "cook book": Jerry D. Peek, Tim O'Reilly, Mike Loukides, _UNIX Power Tools, 2nd Edition_, O'Reilly, © 1997, 1120 pages, ISBN: 1-56592-260-3, US$55 You want to reach out and touch someone? The NAG, as it's affectionately known, is available online in electronic format, but you can take the hardcopy to your favorite cafe, the beach, or that most popluar of technical reading environments, the WC. Networking: Olaf Kirch, Terry Dawson, _Linux Network Administrator's Guide_ (2nd Edition), O'Reilly, © 2000, 474 pages, ISBN 1-56592-400-2. US$35 Online: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/linag2/book/index.html ...when you're tired of people reaching out and touching you... Garfinkel and Spafford is a classic, though slightly time-worn. Its emphasis on philosophy over specific toolsets, and a strong vision on the part of the authors makes it a worthwhile read even now. Sonnenreich and Yates have published an excellet guide not just to building a firewall (this Debian GNU/Linux fan highly recommends the OpenBSD route), but some excellent front-matter on contemporary elements and aspects of network security. Be sure to look at the companion website as it contains up-to-date information concerning recent changes to software and distributions, and more advanced firewalling, monitoring, and proactive security tools. Security: Simson Garfinkel, Gene Spafford, _Practical Unix and Internet Security_, O'Reilly, © 1996, 1004 pages, ISBN: 1-56592-148-8 Wes Sonnenreich, Tom Yates, _Building Linux and OpenBSD Firewalls_, John Wiley & Sons, © 2000, 384 pages. ISBN: 0-47135-366-3. US$40 As Richard Stallman says, using vi isn't a sin, it's a pennance. This handy pocket guide will give you (or answer) a prayer. Arnold Robbins, _vi Editor Pocket Reference_, O'Reilly, ISBN 1-56592-497-5, US$6.95 -- Karsten M. Self http://www.netcom.com/~kmself Evangelist, Opensales, Inc.http://www.opensales.org What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/http://www.kuro5hin.org GPG fingerprint: F932 8B25 5FDD 2528 D595 DC61 3847 889F 55F2 B9B0 pgpSoJxZWKdU3.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: ntpdate
on Sun, Oct 22, 2000 at 01:40:29AM +0200, Philipp Schulte ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Sat, Oct 21, 2000 at 04:55:09PM -0500, Larry Shields wrote: > > > Try this, first off, comment out the first two lines as it tells you to do, > > then use this: > > >From the command line, or added it to the script... > > > > ntpdate -b -s tick.boulder.noaa.gov > > ntpdate -b -s potomac.nist.gov > > > > Hope this helps... > > No, unfortunaly it didn't but now I am pretty sure it's because > ntp-Requests get blocked by our local firewall. > Thanks for your answers. > Phil You might want to enquire as to whether or not there is a local timeserver machine on your network. This is freuquently (though not always) the case. -- Karsten M. Self http://www.netcom.com/~kmself Evangelist, Opensales, Inc.http://www.opensales.org What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/http://www.kuro5hin.org GPG fingerprint: F932 8B25 5FDD 2528 D595 DC61 3847 889F 55F2 B9B0 pgpkFDr2kNYVr.pgp Description: PGP signature
apt-get question
This what I have gone through so far, First tried to apt-get dist-update with the following in /ect/apt/sources.list, ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/potato/main/upgrade-i386/apt 0.3.19 i386.deb also tried, ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian_dists_potato_main_upgrade-i386_apt_0.3.19_i386.deb Result: "E: Malformed line 9" Per instruction at the Debian.org, Took a look at the /var/state/apt/lists/partial/ Found the following, ftp.us.debian.org_debian_dists_dists_potato_binary-i386_Packages Once again, "E: Malformed line 9" What seems to me is wrong is the second _dists_ in the /var/state/apt/lists/partial/ Tried to fire up the editor to edit that out, couldn't bring up and I am at /root What am I not seeing and how to get this box to upgrade to potato/kernel 2.2.17 ? [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ext2 (kernel 2.2) view from Windows?
on Sun, Oct 22, 2000 at 05:08:38PM +0300, Dan Pomohaci ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Hi, > > Are any programs in Windows to mount an ext2 partition (kernel 2.2)? > After I installed a potato system with kernel 2.2.12 (formating the > ext2 partitions) the old Windows ext2fs don't work. A Google search for "Windows Linux filesystem explorer" brings up a number of results for both Win9x and WinNT. I've no experience with any of these tools. Another option is to export a Samba filesystem from a GNU/Linux box, though I suspect you're trying to access ext2fs partition(s) from a dual-boot system. -- Karsten M. Self http://www.netcom.com/~kmself Evangelist, Opensales, Inc.http://www.opensales.org What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/http://www.kuro5hin.org GPG fingerprint: F932 8B25 5FDD 2528 D595 DC61 3847 889F 55F2 B9B0 pgpTjvDYYcOwe.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re[2]: Really strange problems with package handeling
Sunday, October 22, 2000, 10:38:38 PM, you wrote: BS> On Sun, 22 Oct 2000, Ikarus wrote: >> I've got a really strange problem using dpkg apt-get and other package >> handeling tools when I attempt to do anyting (like: apt-get install >> apache) it gives the following error: shell-init: could not get current >> directory: getcwd: cannot access parent directories: No such file or >> directory >> What does this error mean and what can I do about it BS> That the program (bash) is in a dir the user running it does not have BS> read permission for; I've had it happen when su-ing around or if I BS> delete a dir a user is working in. Don't worry about it unless some BS> program is bombing out because of it. The first problem was because of some nice effects with su like you said I found that out just now >> Also I've got in my syslog and message log a lot of messages like: >> Oct 21 01:10:13 Mercury kernel: VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for init... >> Oct 21 01:10:13 Mercury kernel: VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for bitchx... >> And many more for every program I'm running. Its also allmost at the >> exact time I'm installing/removing packages could this be related and BS> You are low on virtual memory (VM) and the kernel is failing when it BS> tries to free some for the programs running... either get more RAM, make BS> another (or larger) swap partition, create a swap file, or shutdown some BS> of the programs running when you are installing packages. The messages BS> are not a problem unless running programs are being killed when you try BS> to use them. I thought 60 VM would be enough with 32 MB ram but then I'll just have to make even more swapspace availible >> if so how do I fix it everything seems to be going wrong on my machine >> lately BS> such as... I had some problems related to Apache + PHP4 + mysql that I thought where related to these problems but I'm working on that one with a friend of mine. Thanx -- Ikarusmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing tar files
on Sun, Oct 22, 2000 at 07:50:19AM -0700, Shel Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > --- Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Shel Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >I'm attempting to install a .tar.gz file.. I've successfully gunzip the > > >file, but I've forgotten how to complete the rest of the installation > > >process.. HELP!!! > > > > 'tar xzvf filename.tar.gz' is the usual incantation; run 'tar tzvf > > filename.tar.gz' first to find out where it's going to put things. If > > you've already gunzipped it, leave out the 'z' flag. > > > > -- > > Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Ok, I've run the tar tzvf filename.tar.gz command.. what's next??.. isn't > there some kind of an 'install' command?? Expanding on several other responses. A tar archive isn't a sofware packaging format, it's a structure for archiving a set of files to be easily transportable or saved to backup media. Essentially, you're putting everything into a box. In the same sense that a box can hold a wide range of things (cookies, clothes, furniture, books, live chickens, an exotic dancer), a tar archive can hold files, programs, data, system backups, or possibly a build tree for some software. Usually there are instructions either at the site from which you obtained the file or in the top-level directory of the archive itself which tell you how to proceed once you've received the archive. Typically, this will be a file named README or INSTALL. Check the archive itself, the site you received it from, or provide specific details on what it is you've downloaded and/or are trying to do with it. -- Karsten M. Self http://www.netcom.com/~kmself Evangelist, Opensales, Inc.http://www.opensales.org What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/http://www.kuro5hin.org GPG fingerprint: F932 8B25 5FDD 2528 D595 DC61 3847 889F 55F2 B9B0 pgpF9alId3jQQ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: exim help needed
Hai Krzys, sorry to bud in so late, and for breaking the thread referencing but it was only after I deleted the whole thread from within mutt that I realised that I might offer some help. I picked up your first request from the muc.list.debian.user netnews copy of debian-user. > Newsgroups: muc.lists.debian.user > > OK I've given up on sendmail. On to exim now. Here are the features I > want. Right now, it looks like sending mail fails silently. > - cron jobs can send mail to root, who forwards them to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - remote machines can't send mail to my machine (ie don't run a daemon > on port 25) > - outgoing mail (e.g. from Mutt) send via localhost:6025 which is port > forwarded to smtp.cs.ubc.ca:25. As was pointed out to you, and you already started doing, you have to reconfigure exim to use a smart-host. Then do some editing in /etc/exim.conf: Add a transport in the Transport section: tunneled_smtp: driver = smtp port = 6025 Start the Router section with: smart_tunnel: driver = domainlist transport = tunneled_smtp self = send route_list = "* localhost byname" And of you go! That is, if the port is forwarded in time. It works here, but I give no garantees:) Just curious, what tricks do you use to create this port forwarding? And is it created on the fly? -- groetjes, carel
IPCHAINS and potato
Does anybody can give me an advise if the box standard kernel 2.2 from potato supports already ipchains+masquerading and how can I find out? Thanks and regards Burkhard Zombronner
Re: Recording mp3 files to a CD
On Sun, 22 Oct 2000 12:00:39 -0700, Bob Nielsen said: > I've been trying to record a few audio .mp3 files to a CD-R. The > CD-Writing-HOWTO says to use mpg123 with a --cdr option to create the > correct format, which can then be written to the CD with cdrecord, > however the version of mpg123 in potato (0.59r-6) does not appear to > support this and I can't find a new version. I tried decoding the mp3 > without --cdr and was able to write to a CD-R disc. When I attempt > to play it back the tracks are recognized but there is no audio output. > > I also tried using freeamp with the waveout.pmo plugin to create a .wav > file from a .mp3 file. This is supposed to cause the .wav file to be > written in ~/MyMusic, but nothing appears there. > > Has anyone on the list figured out how to record mp3 to a CD? Is > there a version of sox which supports the mp3 format? I have used 'gtoaster' which is a gui that uses all the standard programs including mp123 but has a drag and drop panel to select cd's and mp3's. Also you can use 'xmms' and its DirectWriterPlugin to convert mp3 to wav files and then just use 'cdrecord' on the cmd line. Read about this at www.funky-penguin.co.uk. -- gEEk||dOOd^Deb+ian&&XFce$everything goes(-_-)
Re: VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed
1) Has anyone out there managed to fix the kernel VM problem by upgrading to the 2.4 kernel? Oct 22 03:11:26 debian kernel: VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for rxvt... Oct 22 03:11:26 debian last message repeated 2 times Oct 22 03:11:26 debian kernel: VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for init... Oct 22 03:11:26 debian kernel: VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for init... Oct 22 03:11:26 debian kernel: VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for netstat... Other people have reported this problem on the list and it was recommended that they upgrade to 2.2.18, but searching around with google and dejanews I found a few 2.2.18 people who were still having the same problem. On a similar but different note - I get this booting the potato disks on a laptop with 4 Mb ram, but its Oct 20 14:22:55 debian kernel: VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for init... Oct 20 14:22:55 debian kernel: VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for swapper... Can you free up ram by running sync periodically? Is there something common in swap partition configs? 4) Will I need to upgrade anything else if I move up to the 2.4 kernels? Modutils comes to mind straight away -- Criggie
Re: IPCHAINS and potato
On Sun, Oct 22, 2000 at 23:11, Burkhard Zombronner wrote: > Does anybody can give me an advise if the box standard kernel 2.2 from potato > supports already ipchains+masquerading and how can I find out? Alas, there are several "box stock" kernels in potato, depending on how you installed. But, all will do the following for you: $ ls /boot System.map-2.2.17 chain.bmbr.bvmlinuz-2.2.17 boot.b config-2.2.17 os2_d.b And then you can have a look: $ grep FIRE /boot/config-2.2.17 CONFIG_FIREWALL=y CONFIG_IP_FIREWALL=y $ grep MASQ /boot/config-2.2.17 CONFIG_IP_MASQUERADE=y CONFIG_IP_MASQUERADE_ICMP=y CONFIG_IP_MASQUERADE_MOD=y CONFIG_IP_MASQUERADE_IPAUTOFW=m CONFIG_IP_MASQUERADE_IPPORTFW=m CONFIG_IP_MASQUERADE_MFW=m Luck, Pann -- geek by nature, Linux by choice L I N U X .~. The Choice /V\ http://www.ourmanpann.com/linux/ of a GNU /( )\ Generation ^^-^^
Re: What windows ssh client you use?
Rino Mardo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'm using PuTTY from windows to ssh to my debian box but I find that it > disconnects my session after some idle time. > > Is it a ssh setting (coz I can't find it) or it's my ssh client? I used to use putty, but now cygwin includes openssh, so I use that. If you like unix but need to use win32, you *really* should install cygwin anyway: http://www.cygwin.com/ Best wishes, cbb
Re: perl and ssmtp
I ended up using the Reply-To: in the header... that works and is an "okay" solution, but I'm still waiting to hear from other sources of help about why From: is not working Timmy Douglas wrote: > i think that is all you have to do. > the only thing that i can think of is > that you might have the same option equal > to no earlier in the file that might mess > it up but i'm not sure... > > On Sat, Oct 21, 2000 at 05:01:27PM -0400, phiLLip maDDux II wrote: > > Unfortunately adding that line to my ssmtp.conf did not work. > > > > sSMTP does not run as a process so I assume this file is parsed each time > > mail is > > sent... so I should not have to do anything but add the line, save the > > file, and try > > it again correct? > > > > Timmy Douglas wrote: > > > > > On Fri, Oct 20, 2000 at 03:31:04PM -0400, phiLLip maDDux II wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > I have a perl program that makes a call to ssmtp on the system to send > > > > out an email. When I send out the email I specify the from: however it > > > > does not work, it always makes it look like the email came from > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > Does anybody have any suggestions of what I should look for? Do I need > > > > to give more info to help determine the problem? > > > > > > > > Thank you! > > > > > > > > > > is this in your /etc/ssmtp/ssmtp.conf? > > > > > > # Set this to never rewrite the From: line (unless not given) and to > > > # use that address in the from line of the envelope. > > > FromLineOverride=YES > > > > > > i think that should work. > > > > > > -- > > > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null > > > > > > -- > > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null > > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: Recording mp3 files to a CD
Bob Nielsen wrote: > Has anyone on the list figured out how to record mp3 to a CD? Is > there a version of sox which supports the mp3 format? I'll throw in a second for gtoaster. I've been looking for something to do MP3 -> Audio CD myself, and gtoaster fits the bill nicely. I just got done making my first CD with it - listening to it as I type this - and I'll say it was well worth the download. When you install gtoaster, it'll install a whole bunch of other utils that it uses. Things like mpg123, sox, cddawav, and a whole slew of others. Basically it seems to be just a GUI front-end to all those others. But gtoaster certainly makes it easy to put it all together. The only bobble I had with getting it running was I wound up having to set the prog SUID root. As this is a single user system, I'm not worried. But others might be. I'm sure there's a better way than just doing SUID root, but I was too impatient. Later, I *will* be checking out how to get it running without being SUID. But for now I'm happy - it *works*. Oh yeah. gtoaster is a Gnomeified package. As such, it depends on a number of Gnome libraries. The docs made it sound like it can be built from source so that it does *not* depend on Gnome, but I didn't check that too closely as I do use Gnome. -- Mike Werner KA8YSD | He that is slow to believe anything and | everything is of great understanding, '91 GS500E| for belief in one false principle is the Morgantown WV | beginning of all unwisdom. pgpCdo2k5oG4n.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Recording mp3 files to a CD
I put all the mp3's in a directory and from that directory I run the following script. Use the argument "clean" to first erase the cd if it's CDRW. ### #!/bin/bash if [[ $1 == "clean" ]] then cdrecord -v speed=4 dev=0,1,0 blank=fast fi for I in *.mp3 do mpg123 --cdr - "$I" | cdrecord -v speed=4 dev=0,1,0 -audio -nopad -nofix - done cdrecord -v speed=4 dev=0,1,0 -fix ### Mike wrote: > > Bob Nielsen wrote: > > > Has anyone on the list figured out how to record mp3 to a CD? Is > > there a version of sox which supports the mp3 format? > > I'll throw in a second for gtoaster. I've been looking for something to do > MP3 -> Audio CD myself, and gtoaster fits the bill nicely. I just got done > making my first CD with it - listening to it as I type this - and I'll say > it was well worth the download. > > When you install gtoaster, it'll install a whole bunch of other utils that > it uses. Things like mpg123, sox, cddawav, and a whole slew of others. > Basically it seems to be just a GUI front-end to all those others. But > gtoaster certainly makes it easy to put it all together. > > The only bobble I had with getting it running was I wound up having to set > the prog SUID root. As this is a single user system, I'm not worried. But > others might be. I'm sure there's a better way than just doing SUID root, > but I was too impatient. Later, I *will* be checking out how to get it > running without being SUID. But for now I'm happy - it *works*. > > Oh yeah. gtoaster is a Gnomeified package. As such, it depends on a number > of Gnome libraries. The docs made it sound like it can be built from source > so that it does *not* depend on Gnome, but I didn't check that too closely > as I do use Gnome. > -- > Mike Werner KA8YSD | He that is slow to believe anything and > | everything is of great understanding, > '91 GS500E| for belief in one false principle is the > Morgantown WV | beginning of all unwisdom. > > >Part 1.2Type: application/pgp-signature -- Brian J. Stults Doctoral Candidate Department of Sociology University at Albany - SUNY Phone: (518) 442-4652 Fax: (518) 442-4936 Web: http://www.albany.edu/~bs7452
Re: fetchmail
Some of these problems might be from the mail server, not the fetchmail client. I know mail servers can do things like making a complete copy of your spool file before + after processing. So there can be quite a delay for them to get going. On Wed, Oct 18, 2000 at 01:40:20PM +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote: > On 18 Oct 2000, Rino Mardo wrote: > > it means either the name was not resolving at the exact time and date OR > > that it timedout while checking for mails. > > > > sounds crazy i know but that's my experience with fetchmail having used it > > for > > over two years now. anyway, i'm open to more reasonable explanation. > > > > -- > > Who's watching the watchmen? > > I still get problems intermittently with fetchmail pausing for a long > time while getting the first messsage. I thought I'd fixed it by editing > /etc/hosts but it still happens sometimes. At other times it works > perfectly. > > Anthing else worth checking? > > > -- > Anthony Campbell - running Linux Debian 2.2 (Windows-free zone) > Over 100 book reviews: http://www.cix.co.uk/~acampbell/bookreviews/ > Skeptical articles: http://www.cix.co.uk/~acampbell/freethinker/ > > "Palo y tente tieso." (Spanish proverb) > Free translation: "Holdfast is your only dog." > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null >
Re: Help: S3 Savage4
Maybe it's because you're using woody. Potatoes should be more edible :) On Sun, 22 Oct 2000, Chris Gray wrote: > OK. I've installed woody on my home system and set up X with the SVGA > server and it works fine, but I still have the same problem I had under > slink: when I exit the Xserver in any way (Alt+Ctl+F#, Alt+Ctl+Backspace, > Logout, Restart the window manager) the screen goes black with the click > of the video card switching modes and after that the system responds only > to the reset button. I can switch screen resolutions fine. > > Is part of the problem that I don't know the exact model of my card? > > adTHANKSvance > Chris > > > > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
XFree
I was used to work with slackware + blackbox (last version) when I had discovered this amazing distro called Debian. The install works fine, couldn't be better, but after installing blackbox on it, I found something strange: There's a blackbox bar and in debian it became huge, I think it's because of the font set in X, but I'm not sure. Any suggestions? Tks, daniel
Re: apt-get question
Wayde C Gutman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >This what I have gone through so far, > >First tried to apt-get dist-update That should be dist-upgrade, I hope ... >with the following in /ect/apt/sources.list, > >ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/potato/main/upgrade-i386/apt 0.3.19 >i386.deb >also tried, >ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian_dists_potato_main_upgrade-i386_apt_0.3.19_i386.deb This isn't the format that sources.list lines need to be in. Generally speaking, apt-get is intelligent enough that you don't need to specify as many details as you have. In fact, you can't specify as many details as you have, or at least not in that way. :) Read 'man 5 sources.list' if you want to write that file yourself. For general use in potato, retrieving all sections, you need lines like these: deb ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian potato main contrib non-free deb ftp://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US potato non-US/main non-US/contrib non-US/non-free ... and the same with 'deb' replaced by 'deb-src' if you want to get sources as well as binaries. However, the particular file you're trying to get is not in an apt-gettable repository. To install it, just download it with your favourite FTP client and do 'dpkg -i apt_0.3.19_i386.deb' - simple as that. apt-get won't get confused by you doing things with raw dpkg. >Took a look at the /var/state/apt/lists/partial/ >Found the following, > >ftp.us.debian.org_debian_dists_dists_potato_binary-i386_Packages > >Once again, "E: Malformed line 9" > >What seems to me is wrong is the second _dists_ in the >/var/state/apt/lists/partial/ Yes, indeed. Looks like you tried to say something like: deb ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists potato main contrib non-free ... or something strange like that [1]. It won't work - use the lines above. [1] Even that would give you an extra 'main_' in the filename above ... >Tried to fire up the editor to edit that out, couldn't bring up and I am >at /root What were you trying to edit? Normally you wouldn't use an editor to change filenames in a directory, well, unless you fired up a shell from inside emacs or something. :) -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
vtwm won't show icon manager no way no how
I broke my vtwm! It will no longer automatically show the icon
manager, no matter what nice things I say to it.
Anybody else had this?
-chris
### file <.twmrc>
#
# $XConsortium: system.twmrc,v 1.7 89/12/01 11:23:47 jim Exp $
#
# Default twm configuration file; needs to be kept small to conserve string
# space in systems whose compilers don't handle medium-sized strings.
#
# Sites should tailor this file, providing any extra title buttons, menus, etc.
# that may be appropriate for their environment. For example, if most of the
# users were accustomed to uwm, the defaults could be set up not to decorate
# any windows and to use meta-keys.
#
ClearBevelContrast 25
BorderBevelWidth 2
BorderWidth 0
NoTitle
Zoom 0
StayUpOptionalMenus
DefaultFunction f.menu "Main Menu"
# IconManagerGeometry "169x138-0+0" 1
IconManagerGeometry "400x138-0+0" 1
#DontShowIconManager
#SortIconManager
#IconRegion "1000x100-0-0" South West 1 1
RandomPlacement
IconifyByUnMapping
MoveDelta 1
NoGrabServer
DecorateTransients
OpaqueMove
NoRaiseOnMove
RandomPlacement
#WarpUnmapped
XorValue 65535
IconDirectory "/usr/X/include/X11/bitmaps"
#IconDirectory "/usr/local/mouseX/include/bitmaps"
#IconDirectory "/usr/openwin/include/X11/bitmaps"
UnknownIcon "xlogo32"
ForceIcons
# First select your fonts
IconFont"-adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--*-80-*-*-*-*-*-*"
#IconManagerFont "-adobe-helvetica-bold-r-normal--*-80-*-*-*"
#IconManagerFont "-adobe-times-*-r-*-*-*-140-*-*-*-*-*-*"
#IconManagerFont "-adobe-times-medium-r-*-*-14-130-*-*-*-74-*-*"
IconManagerFont "7x13"
#MenuFont "-adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--*-100-*-*-*-*-*-*"
#MenuFont "-adobe-times-medium-r-*-*-14-130-*-*-*-74-*-*"
MenuFont"7x13"
ResizeFont "-adobe-helvetica-bold-r-normal--*-100-*-*-*-*-*-*"
#TitleFont "-adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--*-100-*-*-*-*-*-*"
TitleFont "-adobe-times-medium-r-*-*-14-130-*-*-*-74-*-*"
# Next your colors
Color
{
BorderColor "grey35"
# BorderColor "white"
# {
# "xclock" "black"
# "xbiff""black"
# "xload""black"
# "xconsole" "black"
# "TWM" "black"
# "TWM Icon Manager" "black"
# "TimeTracker 1.98 " "black"
# }
# BorderTileBackground "grey50"
# BorderTileForeground "grey15"
BorderTileBackground "black"
BorderTileForeground "black"
{
"TimeTracker 1.98 " "black"
}
DefaultForeground "grey50"
DefaultBackground "black"
IconBackground "black"
IconBorderColor "black"
IconForeground "black"
IconManagerBackground "black"
# IconManagerForeground "grey35"
IconManagerForeground "green"
IconManagerHighlight "grey50"
MenuBackground "black"
MenuForeground "green"
# MenuForeground "grey50"
MenuShadowColor "black"
MenuTitleBackground "grey50"
MenuTitleForeground "black"
TitleBackground "grey35"
TitleForeground "black"
DesktopDisplayBackground "black"
}
Cursors
{
Frame "top_left_arrow"
Title "top_left_arrow"
Icon "top_left_arrow"
IconMgr "top_left_arrow"
Move "fleur"
Resize"sizing"
Menu "sb_left_arrow"
Button"hand2"
Wait "spider"
Select"dot"
Destroy "pirate"
}
WindowRing {
"XTerm"
"emacs"
"XDvi"
"Netscape"
"Gnus"
}
StartIconified
{
"PostIt"
"xclipboard"
}
DontIconifyByUnmapping
{
"Cardfiler"
"Calculator"
"xbiff"
"xcalc"
"oclock"
"xclock"
"xdir"
"xload"
"xpostit"
}
# IconManagerDontShow
# {
# #"xconsole"
# "xlassie"
# "tkbiff"
# "Cardfiler"
# "Calculator"
# "Composition"
# "Information"
# "xbiff"
# "xcalc"
# "oclock"
# "xclock"
# "xbuffy"
# "session"
# "xdir"
# "xload"
# "xpostit"
# "swisswatch"
# "TimeTracker 1.98 "
# # "Netscape: __fox"
# }
Icons
{
"xfig" "xfig.icon"
"rxvt" "rxvt.icon"
}
# NoRaiseOnWarp
# {
# "session"
# }
#
# NoTitle
# {
## "rxvt"
#"emacs"
#"Netscape"
#"TimeTracker 1.98 "
#"VTWM"
# "TWM"
#"xbiff"
#"xclock"
#"oclock"
#"xbuffy"
#"xload"
#"xpostit"
#"VTWM Icon Manager"
#"TWM Icon Manager"
#"xconsole"
#"CONSOLE"
#"asclock"
# }
NoHighlight
{
"VTWM Icon Manager"
"dclock"
"xbiff"
"xbuffy"
"oclock"
"xclock"
"xckmail"
"xload"
"xpostit"
# Unfortunately, the following applies to man pages as well as the browser:
"Xman"
"xconsole"
}
AutoRaise
{
# "Netscape: Find"
"Netscape: Bookmark Properties"
"VTWM Icon Manager"
}
# WarpCursor {
# "Netsca
Re: Recording mp3 files to a CD
That worked just fine; thanks. It's almost the same as the script in the HOWTO, but I think I must have had something set up wrong when I tried that one. On Sun, Oct 22, 2000 at 06:51:32PM -0400, Brian Stults wrote: > I put all the mp3's in a directory and from that directory I run the > following script. Use the argument "clean" to first erase the cd if > it's CDRW. > > ### > #!/bin/bash > > if [[ $1 == "clean" ]] > then > cdrecord -v speed=4 dev=0,1,0 blank=fast > fi > > for I in *.mp3 > do > mpg123 --cdr - "$I" | cdrecord -v speed=4 dev=0,1,0 -audio -nopad -nofix - > done > cdrecord -v speed=4 dev=0,1,0 -fix > ### > > > Mike wrote: > > > > Bob Nielsen wrote: > > > > > Has anyone on the list figured out how to record mp3 to a CD? Is > > > there a version of sox which supports the mp3 format? > > > > I'll throw in a second for gtoaster. I've been looking for something to do > > MP3 -> Audio CD myself, and gtoaster fits the bill nicely. I just got done > > making my first CD with it - listening to it as I type this - and I'll say > > it was well worth the download. > > > > When you install gtoaster, it'll install a whole bunch of other utils that > > it uses. Things like mpg123, sox, cddawav, and a whole slew of others. > > Basically it seems to be just a GUI front-end to all those others. But > > gtoaster certainly makes it easy to put it all together. > > > > The only bobble I had with getting it running was I wound up having to set > > the prog SUID root. As this is a single user system, I'm not worried. But > > others might be. I'm sure there's a better way than just doing SUID root, > > but I was too impatient. Later, I *will* be checking out how to get it > > running without being SUID. But for now I'm happy - it *works*. > > > > Oh yeah. gtoaster is a Gnomeified package. As such, it depends on a number > > of Gnome libraries. The docs made it sound like it can be built from source > > so that it does *not* depend on Gnome, but I didn't check that too closely > > as I do use Gnome. > > -- > > Mike Werner KA8YSD | He that is slow to believe anything and > > | everything is of great understanding, > > '91 GS500E| for belief in one false principle is the > > Morgantown WV | beginning of all unwisdom. > > > > > >Part 1.2Type: application/pgp-signature > > -- > > Brian J. Stults > Doctoral Candidate > Department of Sociology > University at Albany - SUNY > Phone: (518) 442-4652 Fax: (518) 442-4936 > Web: http://www.albany.edu/~bs7452 > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null -- Bob Nielsen, N7XY [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bainbridge Island, WA http://www.oz.net/~nielsen
How to iconify a window programatically?
Anyone know how to iconify a window non-interactively? I'm running vtwm. Either a .vtwmrc or /bin/sh solution will do. -chris
X11 freezes
I have a problem with x11 in woody freezing when switching from a terminal to X leaving with a black screen and locked keyboard. This occures usually after about the 4-5 switching from a terminal to X (ctrl+alt+f7) and never the other way. The Xservers give no clue as their output is what I would expect for when running normally. XF86_SVGA and XSiS_SVGA (from sis site) both have this problem Video Card: SiS6326 4mb CPU: 200mmx Ram: 64megs + 128meg swap Kernel:2.2.17 Debian Dist: Woody Xserver version: 3.3.6 (debian build 11) Any help would be greatfully appreciated. Chris Ison
Netscape color problem ..
Hi, I have a peculiar problem running Netscape 4.75 on my potato box. Netscape comes up with all icons in monochrome. It is really not a color map problem as all the sites/pages are rendered in color !! All of the netscape icons ( like back/forward/home etc ) are all in monochrome. I downloaded 4.73 version also from Debian site, it has the same problem. ( I have Helix gnome also on my box, but the problem is there even if I have an icewm environment). Has anyone faced this problem? Thanks, Shaji
Re: Netscape color problem ..
Thats a problem with netscape and 24 bpp color. Use 16bpp colormap. Andrei -- First there was Explorer... Then came Expedition. This summer Coming to a street near you.. Ford Exterminator. -- Andrei Ivanov http://arshes.dyndns.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12402354 --
RE: /boot
Yes, it should be more than enough unless you intend to keep numerous copies of your kernel for diferrent purposes...10mb should be more than sufficient. Patrick Cheong Information Systems Assurance Measat Broadcast Network Systems e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit us at: http://www.astro.com.my > -Original Message- > From: ColdWater [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2000 8:51 AM > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: /boot > > List, > > First of all, hi to everyone! > Now... > I've finished my download of CD-Binary 1 and i'm ready to install Debian > Potato. I'm reading the manuals and, after some How-tos I intend to > install > it. (Erase the Red Hat and put it on; leaving Win); > I have a little question and I hope someone from the list could help me > with > it. > Even with the boot in before the 1024cil, is it recomended to to create a > /boot partion? > Is it good, bad or it does not matter? What about it's size. 10Mb is > enough? > > Thanks! > Custodio, L. C. - Brazil! > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < > /dev/null
broken woody
Hello, after a "apt-get dist-upgrade" my system (woody) seems quite broken. Apache and lpd among other daemons/progs are nolonger working. Also my system load average is shown (top) as being around 1.2 although I can't see any obvious "culprit"-processes, and the system dosn't "feel" loaded. I'm also not certain that I am not at fault, because I have been toying around with nsswitch and pam_ldap.so. Any ideas/help? Robert
RE: /boot
I have read somewhere on the Net that the newer lilo can now handle beyond the 1024 cyclinder barriercan anyone confirm this to be true... A question tha I have:- I noticed that grub comes on the 2.2 cdsafter I dpkg -i...how do I remove lilo and configure and use grub instead to boot my linux boxwhich have all but /boot running reiserfs Patrick Cheong Information Systems Assurance Measat Broadcast Network Systems e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit us at: http://www.astro.com.my > -Original Message- > From: Matthias Mann [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2000 5:33 PM > To: ColdWater; debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: /boot > > Hi, you will need the files in /boot bevore cylinder 1024, because your > BIOS > can´t read anything after this border. And the BIOS starts the booting. If > you like to install Linux and another OS like M$-Windows on one harddisk, > it > is recommended to create an own partition for /boot. I have 8 MB for this. > That is more then enough cause the files in /boot takes 1 MB. If you like > to > install only Debian on your harddisk you don´t need this /boot-partition. > But you must set the partition / at the beginnig of your harddisk. This is > neccessary. Cause this is then the bootpartition too and needs a beginning > bevore cylinder 1024. > > Matthias > > - Original Message - > From: ColdWater <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2000 2:50 AM > Subject: /boot > > > > List, > > > > First of all, hi to everyone! > > Now... > > I've finished my download of CD-Binary 1 and i'm ready to install Debian > > Potato. I'm reading the manuals and, after some How-tos I intend to > install > > it. (Erase the Red Hat and put it on; leaving Win); > > I have a little question and I hope someone from the list could help me > with > > it. > > Even with the boot in before the 1024cil, is it recomended to to create > a > > /boot partion? > > Is it good, bad or it does not matter? What about it's size. 10Mb is > enough? > > > > Thanks! > > Custodio, L. C. - Brazil! > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > -- > > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < > /dev/null > > > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < > /dev/null
Re: Idea: Master Debian FAQ (newbie-centric)
I think this is a fantastic idea! I volunteer whatever I can to help out this cause. I think we should get a mailing list for this set up and start building it as soon as possible. > What I'm getting around to saying is how can we, the Debian > community, set up some newbie FAQ's that are tailored specifically at the > very new person trying out linux and doesn't want "every switch" explained > in detail. Most people, if I am not mistaken, want easy to understand > documentation that gets them up and running fast with concrete examples of > the cmd in action for a variety of "most used" scenarios. Take the following > topics: > > email, ssh, http, sound, xwindows, security, word processors, tar > > Each one of those topics probably has a handful of "how do I" associated with > it that a very new user would "typically" ask to this list. First off I'd > like > to ask if someone has already gathered a FAQ like this for Debian. If not, > I'd like to volunteer my time in creating (when I have the knowledge) parts > of the FAQ. Some basic questions come up though and these I throw out to you, > the Debian community: > > 1. Who would house/display the FAQ so it is always available. That's a minor issue... anyone with a permanent website. > 2. Who can contribute and how? I'd suggest a core group of volunteers with experience in writing newbie manuals, or even some who have not. (I, for one, have been the author of many newbie-centric documents on a larrge MUX.) Others are welcome to volunteer their time to this group, but most of the major organization would be controlled by this group. > 3. Who does quality control checks? The core group of volunteers would review the documents, make comments/corrections, and ultimately, if there are no further objections, decide to make that document available. An alternate solution would be to have a quicker development period, in which documents go up with very little editing, but are changed as time goes on as more people read them. > 4. How do you submit an article to be included? Send it to the mailing list, or, if the list is private, to a public email address which would be checked by one volunteer to verify that the email is actually meant for this project (as in, non-spam), and finally sent to the list. > 5. What would be a successful structure/format? The best structure would probably be a mixture of the general FAQ format and a set of tutorials. Questions such as "How do I unpack a .tar.gz file" would be in FAQ format, but others such as "How do I get a base system running before using apt to finish it?" would be answered with newbie-oriented tutorials. > 6. Would the Debian main page hold a link to this if it's done well and > tailored >toward Debian? I don't see why not. I think this is something that the Big Chiefs at Debian HQ would appreciate greatly. > Again, I'd like to be part of this and am willing do devote some of my time > to getting easy to understand documentation out to newbies...of which I still > consider myself a member. My impression is that most people are. I've been using Debian for about a year now, and I keep finding new things that I would have loved to know when I started. For example, I just set up my sound card this morning for the first time. > Bill Jensen Jon Eisenstein
Re: /boot
:: CHEONG, Shu Yang [Patrick] writes:
> I have read somewhere on the Net that the newer lilo can now handle beyond
> the 1024 cyclinder barriercan anyone confirm this to be true...
Yes. Just run it with the -L option.
> A question tha I have:-
> I noticed that grub comes on the 2.2 cdsafter I dpkg -i...how do I
> remove lilo and configure and use grub instead to boot my linux boxwhich
> have all but /boot running reiserfs
I believe "info grub" will tell you that ("Installation"). You can
either make a grub boot floppy or install it on your hard disk. I
don't remember exactly what I did, but I remember it was quite simple.
The HTML documentation is also very helpful.
J.
--
Jeronimo Pellegrini
Institute of Computing - Unicamp - Brazil
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Debian on an ULTRA 5
People's, Spanky new ultra sparc 5 sitting next to me, and trying to install debian on it, it wont let me create boot disk during the installation process, when it asks to enter a floppy to create, i do which results in the immediate message of "your disk is either write protected or not inserted in the first floppy drive, please insert in first floppy" there is only one floppy drive in there, and the disk isnt write protected, this happens upon any disk i use. If however i select the option to bypass and reboot the system to continue installation, it reboots and is looking for the floppy and wont boot off the harddisk ? Has anyone had any similar or know how to fix my troubles that I have had trying to install debian on the ultra 5 sparc ?? Helpp
Re: What windows ssh client you use?
On Sun, Oct 22, 2000 at 02:56:18PM -0700, Chris Baker wrote: > Rino Mardo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I'm using PuTTY from windows to ssh to my debian box but I find that it > > disconnects my session after some idle time. > > > > Is it a ssh setting (coz I can't find it) or it's my ssh client? or maybe it has to do with your account in a linux/unix box timing you out for inactivity. bash has this setting in /etc/profile or in your ~/.bash_profile TMOUT=# of secs look at it. > > I used to use putty, but now cygwin includes openssh, so I use that. > If you like unix but need to use win32, you *really* should install > cygwin anyway: > > http://www.cygwin.com/ > > Best wishes, > cbb goodday barryg
Re: Debian on an ULTRA 5
To my knowledge booting of a floppy is not supported in the 'Ultra' series of Sparc computers. So, probably you have to bypass that option. === John Kerr Anderson Powered by Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 === On Mon, 23 Oct 2000, Mario Zuppini wrote: > People's, > > Spanky new ultra sparc 5 sitting next to me, and trying to install > debian on it, it wont let me create boot disk during the installation > process, when it asks to enter a floppy to create, i do which results > in the immediate message of > "your disk is either write protected or not inserted in the first > floppy drive, please insert in first floppy" > > there is only one floppy drive in there, and the disk isnt write > protected, this happens upon any disk i use. > > If however i select the option to bypass and reboot the system to > continue installation, it reboots and is looking for the floppy and > wont boot off the harddisk ? > > Has anyone had any similar or know how to fix my troubles that I have > had trying to install debian on the ultra 5 sparc ?? > > Helpp > >
Re: Debian on an ULTRA 5
yeah that is what i have been told, so even when i bypass it, when the ultra 5 tries to boot from memory it gets the error Cant boot from disk1:a File found is not an executable or something similar to that, does that help at all ? - Original Message - From: "John Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mario Zuppini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 1:16 PM Subject: Re: Debian on an ULTRA 5 > To my knowledge booting of a floppy is not supported in the 'Ultra' series > of Sparc computers. So, probably you have to bypass that option. > > === > John Kerr Anderson > Powered by Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 > === > > On Mon, 23 Oct 2000, Mario Zuppini wrote: > > > People's, > > > > Spanky new ultra sparc 5 sitting next to me, and trying to install > > debian on it, it wont let me create boot disk during the installation > > process, when it asks to enter a floppy to create, i do which results > > in the immediate message of > > > "your disk is either write protected or not inserted in the first > > floppy drive, please insert in first floppy" > > > > there is only one floppy drive in there, and the disk isnt write > > protected, this happens upon any disk i use. > > > > If however i select the option to bypass and reboot the system to > > continue installation, it reboots and is looking for the floppy and > > wont boot off the harddisk ? > > > > Has anyone had any similar or know how to fix my troubles that I have > > had trying to install debian on the ultra 5 sparc ?? > > > > Helpp > > > > > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null >
Re: X11 freezes
On Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 11:11:06AM +1000, Chris Ison wrote: > XF86_SVGA and XSiS_SVGA (from sis site) both have this problem > > Video Card: SiS6326 4mb I have a m/b with a sis 5?97/98 video card and I suspect that sis make crap onboard video controllers. On this computer w98 would keep dying with segfaults in gdi.exe - which i believe were video related. In one resolution mode, it would crash when using the scroll bar, in another resolution mode it would crash when expanding directories with the little '+'. When I had debian running on this computer previously, when you went to 1024x768 vertical 'noise' lines randomly appear on the screen. The fact that they are pushing XSiS_SVGA seems to indicate they may be trying to work around h/w limitations. I have only recently put woody on my sis'ed computer and will try to reproduce what you mentioned. However, we both may end up having to get a propper pci card. hth, mark.
network config
Ok, Rogers' dhcp servers suck, and I'm tired of it. I just manually set up my ip and routing table with ifconfig and route. So, if I want this done on every boot instead of dhcp, where is the appropriate place to put the commands in debian? Add a script to /etc/init.d? Mike -- Michael P. Soulier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "...the word HACK is used as a verb to indicate a massive amount of nerd-like effort." -Harley Hahn, A Student's Guide to UNIX PGP Public Key: http://www.storm.ca/~msoulier/personal.html
Re: Idea: Master Debian FAQ (newbie-centric)
Bill, Count me in on this. I'm another one of those people who's been at it for a while, but still feel very newbie-ish about (too) Many things. I'd love to put some time into helping the people who work so hard putting the system together. Whatever I can contribute to, I'll do... A thought I'll throw in quickly is to ask contributors to include a list of reference material for the reader to hit when they are ready, whether that be man pages, info, linux gazette, gnome help system, web sites, or whatever. Not necessarily complete, but hopefully a good start with room for others to throw in their favorites. Kenward Vaughan On Sun, Oct 22, 2000 at 02:22:35PM -0500, William Jensen wrote: > Greetings folks, > > As a newcomer to Debian I, like many since I've joined this list, ask typical > newbie questions about the some basic things. If we take a step back and look > at the big picture there is a basic group of things new users want to get > accomplished. For example most users want to send mail to other people. > While > we could say to them "go RTFM!" that is hardly what they are asking for. If > they did take that RTFM advice...how many of them do you think would stay > around? Not a lot likely. HOWTO's, README's, etc are fine and dandy and ... -- Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature, please! --
Re: Book Recommendations...
> "kms" == kmself writes: kms> As Richard Stallman says, using vi isn't a sin, it's a kms> pennance. This handy pocket guide will give you (or answer) kms> a prayer. Yes. Once, on a job I was actually being paid for (imagine that) I found myself planted in front of a SCO Unix system. I was told I was in charge of it, and to keep it running. In response to my first question, the vendor (who has since disappeared, presumably to avoid prosecution) said, "Oh, I'm glad you asked that; the only editor is vi." That's right, my then-brief life flashed before my eyes, sweat rolled down my forehead into my eyes, and all vital signs started to bump up markedly. Moral to the story: get comfy with vi. It will sneak up on you when you least expect it. The small O'Reilly book _Learning the vi Editor_ is relatively inexpensive and features a simple walk-through tutorial that will stand the uninitiated in good stead. It too comes with a handy reference card. You have been warned. -- Bob Bernstein at Esmond, R.I., USA
Frustrated Windows user making switch
Let me preface this by admitting that I hadn't seen a lick of Linux or Unix until I installed the Potato a couple of days ago. So I basically have no idea what I'm doing. I successfully installed Linux, but I can't get X Windows to work. My first problem is that my mouse doesn't work. It's a Logitech serial mouse, and I've tried the Logitech, Microsoft and Auto options in XF86Setup, but none work. My second problem is that XF86Setup tells me I need to have the SVGA server installed. I don't know how to do that. Understand that referring me to XF86Config means nothing to me. I don't even know how to open the file. I'm sure this type of help request is common and annoying, but I'd certainly appreciate it if somebody could at least point me in the right direction. Thanks. Chad Scott
Debian on Ultra 5 helppp
When i say boot from harddisk and then it prompts you to reboot the ultra and remove floppy disks, i get the following error. Rebooting with command: boot boot device: disk:a File and Args Memory Address Not Aligned ok that is the above error that leaves me at the ok prompt, i dont know what to do from there or how to fix, does anyone have any ideas ?
Re: X Font changed after woody dist-upgrade
Ian Stuart wrote: > > > My base font has changed dramatically - and is now *huge* > <... snip> > Section "Files" > # FontPath"unix:/7100"# local font > server > # if the local font server has problems, we can fall back on these > FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc" > FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic" > FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled" > FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled" Try putting the 75dpi earlier in the list, at least in front of the 100dpi. John -- Powered by the Penguin
Re: Book Recommendations...
At 11:35 PM 10/22/00 -0400, you wrote: Moral to the story: get comfy with vi. It will sneak up on you when you least expect it. The small O'Reilly book _Learning the vi Editor_ is relatively inexpensive and features a simple walk-through tutorial that will stand the uninitiated in good stead. It too comes with a handy reference card. Too true - vi is often the only editor on a rescue/boot disk for space reasons, and if the only vi command you know is Esc : q Enter then you're in trouble. cat > filename << EOF type-out-file-contents-carefully ^D Thats a *last* resort, especially if the file is XF86Config or something huge. A complex lilo.conf is bad enough :) -- Criggie
Re: Frustrated Windows user making switch
On Sun, Oct 22, 2000 at 11:37:30PM -0400, Chad Scott wrote: > Let me preface this by admitting that I hadn't seen a lick of Linux or Unix > until I installed the Potato a couple of days ago. So I basically have no > idea what I'm doing. I successfully installed Linux, but I can't get X > Windows to work. That tends to be one of the bigger pains in the ass of the Linux world. Don't feel bad. ;-) > My first problem is that my mouse doesn't work. It's a Logitech serial > mouse, and I've tried the Logitech, Microsoft and Auto options in XF86Setup, > but none work. My second problem is that XF86Setup tells me I need to have > the SVGA server installed. I don't know how to do that. > > Understand that referring me to XF86Config means nothing to me. I don't even > know how to open the file. I'm sure this type of help request is common and > annoying, but I'd certainly appreciate it if somebody could at least point > me in the right direction. Thanks. If you're not sure how to open the file, I'd highly recommend some kind of introduction to Unix and it's tool. Navigating the file system, basic commands, the Vi editor, etc. http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/lunix4/ is a good place to start, and there are tons of free, online tutorials. As far as installing the SVGA server, the package name is "xserver-svga". I recommend using apt-get on your cdrom, assuming you don't have networking functioning yet. echo 'deb file:/cdrom stable main contrib' > /etc/apt/sources.list apt-get update apt-get install xserver-svga I'm assuming a cdrom install here. For your mouse, make sure that XF86Setup has selected the correct device file. Most modern mice are PS2 interfaces, which is /dev/psaux. If it's a serial mouse on a COM port, the correct device would be /dev/ttySn, where n is the corresponding COM port - 1. ie. for COM1, which is typically what serial mice are on, it would be /dev/ttyS0 Try that and let us know how it goes. Mike -- Michael P. Soulier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "...the word HACK is used as a verb to indicate a massive amount of nerd-like effort." -Harley Hahn, A Student's Guide to UNIX PGP Public Key: http://www.storm.ca/~msoulier/personal.html
Re: Debian on an ULTRA 5
On Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 01:28:22PM +1000, Mario Zuppini wrote: > yeah that is what i have been told, so even when i bypass it, when the ultra > 5 tries to boot from memory it gets the error > > Cant boot from disk1:a > File found is not an executable Is the PROM prompt, try "boot disk". I'm not sure where the disk1:a came from, but it surely doesn't look right (or default). Did you select the option in the install to make it bootable from the harddrive? -- ---===-=-==-=---==-=-- / Ben Collins -- ...on that fantastic voyage... -- Debian GNU/Linux \ ` [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ' `---=--===-=-=-=-===-==---=--=---'
