Re: X-windows + Rage Fury Pro Vivo compatibility

[Willy Lee]

"Valentin" == n Alba  writes:

> Does anybody make X-windows run with ATI Rage 128 Pro with Debian
> 2.2?  Even in VGA or SVGA mode?  Thanks

Yes, I have.  Using the SVGA server.  Well actually it's a Rage 128 GL
AGP, but it should work the same.

Have you problems with it?

=wl

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"They call me CRAZY - just because I DARE to DREAM of a RACE of 
SUPERHUMAN MONSTERS!"

Re: bits and pieces

[David Erdman]

i have the asus k7v...and an athlon 800 (clocked upto 950)., with the wd 15 
gig 7200rpm(also have a quantum 100udma).,
everything works ok.  dont know about the video card though.


On Tue, 03 Oct 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Does anyone know of any issues installing potato on a system with
> these components:
>
>  . Asus K7V motherboard with an Athlon 800mhz processor
>
>  . Matrox Millennium G400 (16MB video ram)
>
>  . Western Digital 15.3G 7200 RPM hard drive
>
>  . Futura 17in Monitor, 1280x1024 resolution
>
>  . Toshiba CDRW/DVD combo drive
>
> My understanding is that the Matrox Millennium G400 has been supported
> since XFree 3.3.4, so since the default potato version is 3.3.6, that
> should be fine.
>
> I've not found any incompatibilities mentioned in the Hardware
> Compatibility Howto, or in the Debian installation manual, but I'd
> appreciate any warnings or advice that experienced people might have
> to offer.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jim

Re: Help with mouse - newbie

[Casey Henderson]

Thanks everyone for the help. I got my mouse working!! I changed the
Protocol to PS/2, rebooted and it worked.  I ran dselect and it says
that the textutils and shellutils packages are installed, yet I still
get missing command errors.  You are correct in that we did a very
minimal install.  My friend basically whipped through the whole
installation because he's a Debian guru, so I don't really know what
all he did.  I know that we didn't install very many packages.  I would
like to know how to go about installing packages that are on the CD's. 
We installed Debian from a set of 3 CD's, but he changed the apt setup
so that it uses the internet to install packages.  Since I only have 50
hours a month for my internet access I would like to install packages
off the CD's instead of spending hours downloading everything through
my (slow) 33.6k modem connection.  Once I get the packages installed
then I can do an upgrade later, but right now I don't have very many
things installed.  How do I set it up so that I can install packages
from the CD's? When I choose the Access menu from dselect, it does not
give me a cdrom option.  Thanks for your help.

Casey

---
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]

"If the Lord wanted us to all be the same, he'd have given us all
braces on our legs."

 

Re: Package List

[Olaf Meeuwissen]

Mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Christopher W. Aiken wrote:
> > OK, I give up.  On a "rpm" flavor of Linux I can do
> > a "rpm -qa" to get a list of ALL installed packages on
> > my system.  What do I have to do to get a list of ALL
> > installed packages on Debian 2.2??
> 
> dpkg -l
> As this tends to be a long list, I usually do instead:
> dpkg -l | less
> So that I can scroll through it and read what's there.

Or more, or most, or lv or ...
Personally, I got used to using pager.
-- 
Olaf Meeuwissen   Epson Kowa Corporation, Research and Development

Re: bits and pieces

[Kenward Vaughan]

The MB is excellent, as should be the rest (I've got a 700 MHz on the K7V). 
I don't know what type of memory you have but if it's one of the good grades
(e.g. Mushkin) you shouldn't have any issues.  Potato uses the 2.2.xx
kernels on initial install, yes?  The Athlon needs that.

FWIW someone on another list recently pointed me to an Athlon/Linux site
which discusses optimizing compiles for the Athlon processor, both with
suggested compiler flags using the standard gcc and (if you're willing to
try it) a revamp'd gcc made specifically for the Athlon.  The site is
http://www.athlonlinux.org

Kenward

On Tue, Oct 03, 2000 at 09:48:50PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Does anyone know of any issues installing potato on a system with
> these components:
> 
>  . Asus K7V motherboard with an Athlon 800mhz processor
> 
>  . Matrox Millennium G400 (16MB video ram)
> 
>  . Western Digital 15.3G 7200 RPM hard drive
> 
>  . Futura 17in Monitor, 1280x1024 resolution
> 
>  . Toshiba CDRW/DVD combo drive
> 
> My understanding is that the Matrox Millennium G400 has been supported
> since XFree 3.3.4, so since the default potato version is 3.3.6, that
> should be fine.
> 
> I've not found any incompatibilities mentioned in the Hardware
> Compatibility Howto, or in the Debian installation manual, but I'd
> appreciate any warnings or advice that experienced people might have
> to offer.

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Re: ess1868

[Pap Tibor]

On Wed, 4 Oct 2000, Wayne Sitton wrote:

> I have a PIII 500mhz. with a voodoo3, 128 meg of ram, and an ess1868
> soundcard.
> I've got everything working fine except the soundcard.  So first, is that
> sound card linux compatible?  when I tried to load a sound module during the
> installation, I couldn't find a module for the 1868, so I installed the
> sound blaster/awe32 module.  the module installed, but no sound.  How do I
> get it working.  Is there a different module that I should have chosen?
> 

Hi!

I have been using an ess1868 card for a long time, and it works well with
linux kernel 2.2.12. I don't remember the correct settings (i'm
working now and linux is on my home machine only) but I think you should
use the sound blaster module. Since this is an PNP card, you should adjust
/etc/isapnp... on your machine, and you have to add the correct irq and
dma settings when loading the sb module.

--Tibi

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Re: bits and pieces

[Adam Scriven]

On Tue, Oct 03, 2000 at 10:10:54PM -0700, David Erdman wrote:
> On Tue, 03 Oct 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Does anyone know of any issues installing potato on a system with
> > these components:
> >
> >  . Asus K7V motherboard with an Athlon 800mhz processor
> >
> >  . Matrox Millennium G400 (16MB video ram)
> >
> >  . Western Digital 15.3G 7200 RPM hard drive
> >
> >  . Futura 17in Monitor, 1280x1024 resolution
> >
> >  . Toshiba CDRW/DVD combo drive
>
> i have the asus k7v...and an athlon 800 (clocked upto 950)., with the wd 15 
> gig 7200rpm(also have a quantum 100udma).,
> everything works ok.  dont know about the video card though.

I have a G400 32MB, and it works like a charm, and uses the _SVGA server.

I dunno about the CDRW/DVD thing.  Is that a CD-RW AND DVD at the same time?
Pretty sexy.

HTH
Adam

compile problems after libc6 upgrade

[Pollywog]

I was told this problem is definitely a problem with my system, and I just 
upgraded libc6 yesterday (to ver 2.1.94-3 ).  Will I have to downgrade to the 
stable Potato version?  Is the problem that I failed to upgrade something else 
when I upgraded libc6?

tnx

--
Andrew

> 
> make[2]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
> make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/pollywog/cvs/licq/licq/share'
> Making all in src
> make[2]: Entering directory `/home/pollywog/cvs/licq/licq/src'
> c++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -Wall -I../include 
> -DINSTALL_PREFIX=\"/usr/loca
> l\"   -fPIC -DPIC -D_REENTRANT -I/usr/local/ssl/include/  -O2 -fno-exceptions 
> -f
> no-check-new -c licq.cpp
> In file included from 
> /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-linux/2.95.2/../../../../include/g++
> -3/iostream.h:31,
>  from 
> /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-linux/2.95.2/../../../../include/g++
> -3/iterator.h:34,
>  from 
> /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-linux/2.95.2/../../../../include/g++
> -3/algobase.h:33,
>  from 
> /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-linux/2.95.2/../../../../include/g++
> -3/list.h:30,
>  from licq.h:9,
>  from licq.cpp:31:
> /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-linux/2.95.2/../../../../include/g++-3/streambuf.h: In 
> met
> hod `struct streampos streambuf::pubseekoff(long long int, ios::seek_dir, int 
> = 
> 3)':
> /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-linux/2.95.2/../../../../include/g++-3/streambuf.h:362: 
> co
> nversion from `__off64_t' to non-scalar type `streampos' requested
> /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-linux/2.95.2/../../../../include/g++-3/streambuf.h: In 
> met
> hod `struct streampos streambuf::pubseekpos(_G_fpos64_t, int = 3)':
> /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-linux/2.95.2/../../../../include/g++-3/streambuf.h:364: 
> `s
> truct streampos' used where a `long long int' was expected
> /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-linux/2.95.2/../../../../include/g++-3/streambuf.h:364: 
> wa
> rning: control reaches end of non-void function 
> `streambuf::pubseekpos(_G_fpos64
> _t, int)'
> make[2]: *** [licq.o] Error 1

Re: Off Topic - procmail

[Jan Ulrich Hasecke]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> Since posting to this and other news groups, I am being
> spammed to no end by what appears to be "Chinese" and 
> "Japanese" sites.  Is there a "simple" procmail recipe
> to toss this garbage in /dev/null?

I am using spamblock. It is a collection of procmail recipes. The only
URL I found is:

http://www.belwue.de/wwwservices/hilfestellungen/spamblock.html

Try a searchengine on spamblock.

HTH
juh

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Re: local printer ? i dunno

[Andre Berger]

David Erdman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> been having loads of problems getting a printer to work in debian.  i keep 
> getting this.  i have apsfilter loaded right now (as opposed to 
> magicfilter)...and lpr. the printer is an hp 4L laserjet.
> i am using printtool to configure everything.   here is the error? i am 
> getting.  either way this is preventing me from printing.
> 
> Oct  3 19:29:10 ganymede lpd[969]: cannot execv /var/spool/lpd/lp0/filter
> Oct  3 19:29:10 ganymede lpd[968]: lp0: job could not be printed 
> (cfA000ganymede
> 
> here is the printcap(or lack thereof i guess)
> ##PRINTTOOL3## LOCAL lj4dith 600x600 letter {} LaserJet4dither Default {}
> lp0:\
>   :sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp0:\
>   :mx#0:\
>   :sh:\
>   :lp=/dev/lp0:\
>   :if=/var/spool/lpd/lp0/filter:
> 
> any help is appreciated. (and encouraged)

I would try to apt-get install gs-aladdin gs-fonts, plus the 
magicfilter or the very nice cupsys(-bsd) (Common Unix Printing 
System). Your printer shouldn't be too hard to set up.  

-- Andre

RE: Help with mouse - newbie

[CHEONG, Shu Yang \[Patrick\]]

Have been following your threadwell here is what you need to do. 

Fire up dselect and select #1. Change the source to the cdrom...I think it's
the last option

Then go to #2 and update your packages database...

Then go to #3 and you should be able to see all the installed and available
packages on the cdroms

BTW...IIRC, you'd need to change the cdroms when prompted ...this basically
allows dselect to update the packages database for all packages on the 3
cdroms (for the official Debian GNU/Linux cds).


HTH

Patrick Cheong
Information Systems Assurance
Measat Broadcast Network Systems
e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Visit us at: http://www.astro.com.my

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 1:22 PM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject:  Re: Help with mouse - newbie
> 
> Thanks everyone for the help. I got my mouse working!! I changed the
> Protocol to PS/2, rebooted and it worked.  I ran dselect and it says
> that the textutils and shellutils packages are installed, yet I still
> get missing command errors.  You are correct in that we did a very
> minimal install.  My friend basically whipped through the whole
> installation because he's a Debian guru, so I don't really know what
> all he did.  I know that we didn't install very many packages.  I would
> like to know how to go about installing packages that are on the CD's. 
> We installed Debian from a set of 3 CD's, but he changed the apt setup
> so that it uses the internet to install packages.  Since I only have 50
> hours a month for my internet access I would like to install packages
> off the CD's instead of spending hours downloading everything through
> my (slow) 33.6k modem connection.  Once I get the packages installed
> then I can do an upgrade later, but right now I don't have very many
> things installed.  How do I set it up so that I can install packages
> from the CD's? When I choose the Access menu from dselect, it does not
> give me a cdrom option.  Thanks for your help.
> 
> Casey
> 
> ---
> Casey Henderson
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> "If the Lord wanted us to all be the same, he'd have given us all
> braces on our legs."
> 
>
> 
> 
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RE: Help with mouse - newbie

[CHEONG, Shu Yang \[Patrick\]]

Wooops...did not carefully read you last line...anybody on the list can shed
some light as to how to get the cdrom option appear in dselect..(maybe
the suggestion below would do it since dselect probably reads from the
sources.list file)...someone corect me if I am wrong.


well a work around would be to edit your sources.list file in
/etc/aptmake sure you enter the appropriate path to the packages.tgz
files

HTH

Patrick Cheong
Information Systems Assurance
Measat Broadcast Network Systems
e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Visit us at: http://www.astro.com.my

> -Original Message-
> From: CHEONG, Shu Yang [Patrick] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 3:03 PM
> To:   '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Cc:   'debian-user@lists.debian.org'
> Subject:  RE: Help with mouse - newbie
> 
> Have been following your threadwell here is what you need to do. 
> 
> Fire up dselect and select #1. Change the source to the cdrom...I think
> it's
> the last option
> 
> Then go to #2 and update your packages database...
> 
> Then go to #3 and you should be able to see all the installed and
> available
> packages on the cdroms
> 
> BTW...IIRC, you'd need to change the cdroms when prompted ...this
> basically
> allows dselect to update the packages database for all packages on the 3
> cdroms (for the official Debian GNU/Linux cds).
> 
> 
> HTH
> 
> Patrick Cheong
> Information Systems Assurance
> Measat Broadcast Network Systems
> e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Visit us at: http://www.astro.com.my
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent:   Wednesday, October 04, 2000 1:22 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> > Subject:Re: Help with mouse - newbie
> > 
> > Thanks everyone for the help. I got my mouse working!! I changed the
> > Protocol to PS/2, rebooted and it worked.  I ran dselect and it says
> > that the textutils and shellutils packages are installed, yet I still
> > get missing command errors.  You are correct in that we did a very
> > minimal install.  My friend basically whipped through the whole
> > installation because he's a Debian guru, so I don't really know what
> > all he did.  I know that we didn't install very many packages.  I would
> > like to know how to go about installing packages that are on the CD's. 
> > We installed Debian from a set of 3 CD's, but he changed the apt setup
> > so that it uses the internet to install packages.  Since I only have 50
> > hours a month for my internet access I would like to install packages
> > off the CD's instead of spending hours downloading everything through
> > my (slow) 33.6k modem connection.  Once I get the packages installed
> > then I can do an upgrade later, but right now I don't have very many
> > things installed.  How do I set it up so that I can install packages
> > from the CD's? When I choose the Access menu from dselect, it does not
> > give me a cdrom option.  Thanks for your help.
> > 
> > Casey
> > 
> > ---
> > Casey Henderson
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
> > "If the Lord wanted us to all be the same, he'd have given us all
> > braces on our legs."
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 
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Mail tool for X

[Debian User]

   Does anybody know a mail tool under  X for pick up the mail form the
mail server. Like the one in Netscape but another one ? Under Debian
Potato, of course.


Thank you,

Adrian Nims

Re: Help with mouse - newbie

[Glyn Millington]

On Wed, Oct 04, 2000 at 03:03:08PM +0800, thus spake CHEONG, Shu Yang [Patrick]:
> Have been following your threadwell here is what you need to do. 
> 
> Fire up dselect and select #1. Change the source to the cdrom...I think it's
> the last option

I think he said that he doesn't get a cdrom option with dselect -
neither do I!

This is what I did, for what its worth, which may not be a lot.
As root
1. Rename /etc/apt/sources.list ( I went for  /etc/apt/sources.listnet, so I 
canuse it later on the net...)

2. [EMAIL PROTECTED] touch /etc/apt/sources.list (creates a new,empty file)

3. [EMAIL PROTECTED] apt-cdrom  

This will prompt you to insert your cdroms into the drive.  You
need to scan all three.

4. While you are at the command line run "apt-get update" to
update apt's database.

5.  Then run dselect.  You will need to run the "update" option
before trying to select any files.  


There - that worked here. There is probably  a more elegant way,
but I'm a beginner too! When you want to start upgrading via
the internet, change the names on your /etc/apt/sources files and
remember to run "update" - apt is only as good as its database.

HTH

Glyn M
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Sound Blaster

[Tino Ionescu]

Hi 
I'm trying to install the driver emu10k1 for Sound Blaster Live 
Driver's Makefile is complainig that it can't find "modversion.h" 
Can anybody tell me what should be done?

Thank you in advance,
Florenin.


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http://home.netscape.com/webmail

Re: Mail tool for X

[Peter Malewski]

On Wed, Oct 04, 2000 at 10:11:11AM +0300, Debian User wrote:
>Does anybody know a mail tool under  X for pick up the mail form the
> mail server. Like the one in Netscape but another one ? Under Debian
> Potato, of course.

fetchmail is the standard tool for this, fetchmailconf builds a .fetchmailrc 
file. See also the docs of fetchmail 

PM

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Re: Off Topic: mutt and threading

[Sven Burgener]

On Tue, Oct 03, 2000 at 09:09:53PM -0400, Mike wrote:
> Sven Burgener wrote:
> > If I leave a mailbox having new mails, they become _O_ld. I don't
> > like this.  Can this be changed so that mails stay _N_ew even when I
> > leave a mailbox and return to it later?

> I hated that too.  Turns out that adding:
> set nomark_old
> to my ~/.muttrc was the magic needed.

I couldn't find this in /usr/doc/mutt/manual.txt.gz. So I am using
"unset mark_old" like Chris Gray suggested.

Thank ya all
Sven
-- 
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unzip ; strip ; touch ; finger
mount ; fsck ; more ; yes ; umount
sleep

Re: Sound Blaster

[John Travis]

On Sun, 09 Nov 2036, Tino Ionescu wrote:
> Hi 
> I'm trying to install the driver emu10k1 for Sound Blaster Live 
> Driver's Makefile is complainig that it can't find "modversion.h" 
> Can anybody tell me what should be done?
> 
> Thank you in advance,
> Florenin.

Do you have the kernel source/headers installed?

jt
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Re: Listing only the package names with dpkg?

[Preben Randhol]

will trillich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 03/10/2000 (20:12) :
> On Tue, Oct 03, 2000 at 02:53:00PM +0200, Preben Randhol wrote:
> > Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 03/10/2000 (14:49) :
> > > Preben Randhol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >I'm trying to list out all the packages I have installed on my system.
> > > >I can do a dpkg -l, but I only want the package names not the rest, as
> > > >I'm going to use the package names.
> > > 
> > >   dpkg --get-selections | cut -f1
> > 
> > Ah thanks that was what I was looking for.
> > 
> > dpkg --get-selections | grep "install" | cut -f1
> 
> careful -- that'll also show "deinstall" items:
>   % dpkg --get-selections | grep "deinstall"

oops, yes thanks:

   dpkg --get-selections | grep -v "deinstall" | cut -f1


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Re: Linux newbie: (1) 1FA after boot (2) X configuration

[Shaul Karl]

> Hi
>  I'm a Linux newbie, and I've jut installed 2.0 on a PC. Everything   
>   
>  went okay, except when I try to boot from the hard disk, it hangs at 
> a 
>  '1FA:' prompt, and I can't type anything. Also, if I do a rescue 
> reboot, and try to configure XF86, I can't get any mouse pointer  
> movement, and it fails to launch the server. Any help?
>   

1. 1FA after boot.
I do not remember the exact meaning of this code but I believe it boils down 
to setting and running lilo correctly. You might boot from floppy and send 
your /etc/lilo.conf to the list, or take a look at the lilo docs.
BTW: You might also want to try loadlin - it will let you boot from HD from 
DOS/Windows.

2. X configuration
Once again, might be a configuration problem. You might try 
startx 2>&1 > startx.msg
This will let you see the Xserver output when it was started. Here too you 
might send the output to the list.


>  Thanks,  
>   
>  D. Kronholm  
> 
> 
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Re: Need advice on Postscript/PCL printer

[Joachim Trinkwitz]

Nicola Bernardelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I am to buy an entry level monochrome laser printer (it seems as when
> it comes to text and music scores a 600dpi laser is better than any
> inkjet) and of course I'm looking for one that works with
> Debian. (I'll add some details just in case anybody else is interested
> in the matter, I'm in Paris, France, so I guess the prices are not so
> interesting on the list, anyway the three printers mentioned here are
> more or less the same price.)

Try to get a Kyocera 680FS with PS option, they used to be quite cheap
nowadays (Kyocera don't produce them any more). I've got one, and it
works great here (using the CUPS packages from woody, but lpr/lprng
worked too). I put some EDO-RAM from an older PC in to increase the
memory.

Greetings,
joachim

Somehow /etc/papersize was changed

[Shaul Karl]

Just wanted to report that somehow the file /etc/papersize was changed from a4 
to letter.
Since I am following unstable quite closely I suspect that some package did 
that but I can not verify that or point to a suspected package.

Re: Netscape - libstdc++

[Joachim Trinkwitz]

"ObeseWhale" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> well I did apt-get install netscape4 off of the cd, and it installed
> netscape-base, yet I'm getting the same error.  Do I need more?

Do apt-get install netscape-smotif-475 and throw away your netscape
tarball.

Greetings,
joachim

licq

[Allan Andersen]

Hello everyone,

I've just reinstalled my debian system. It all works just fine
except my licq. When I start the licq program I get an error
similar to this:

1:57:14: [WRN] Licq: Ignoring stale lockfile (pid 27928)
11:57:14: [ERR] Unable to load plugin (qt-gui): /usr/lib/licq/
licq_qt-gui.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file
or directory.

I think that all the licq program files and the qt libary files
are installed. Any ideas why this is happing ?

Regards
Allan

Leftover .debs in /var/cache/apt/archives

[Steve Simons]

Can someone assist me please - I have .deb files left over in my 
archives
folder even though I've apt-moved to a local mirrors folder on CDROM,
changing myapt-move.conf each time as appropriate.  For example, my  
sources.list contains -

deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian potato main contrib non-free
deb ftp://spidermonkey.helixcode.com/distributions/debian unstable main

That's all; I've installed potato, kernel 2.2.17pre6 and X from the 
debian
site, and helix-gnome from helix's site.  I did an apt-move for both
hierarchies (potato from debian and unstable from helixcode) and each 
time
files were moved.  However, I have files left over in the
/var/cache/apt/archives folder such as xmms_1.2.3-helix1_i386.deb and
rep-gtk_0.14-helix2_i386.deb, even though I've specified delete=yes in
apt-move.conf.  I'm concerned that in the event of a disaster, these 
files
won't be available.  

Point me in the right direction please?

Article: Debian's Daunting Installation

[Randy Edwards]

   Has anyone seen Joe Barr's article in LinuxWorld at
?

   I was struck by the article in a number of ways.  I think it's sad that
an experienced user like him couldn't install Debian (sad being the knock
goes against him -- it ain't rocket science), but on the other hand, his
reactions are *typical* of what I've seen when I try to have new users
install Debian (so I can't knock him I guess).

   I've fallen into the mode that I now give new users the free Storm
Linux CD, have them install that and get comfortable with GNU/Linux, and
then tell them to apt up to a full Debian system.  I'd love to give them a
pure Debian install, but after seeing people fail on it again and again
(I'll ignore topics of intelligence in the general user population:-),
unless I'm there to walk them through it I know they're bound to fall on
their face.

   Anyone else have any thoughts on this article?

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Re: Mozilla M17-3 on Woody

[Moritz Schulte]

RvB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I tried Mozilla M17-3 on Woody (mozilla_m17-3_i386.deb) and when i want to 
> start it, it says:
> 
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ $ mozilla
>   Starting Mozilla
>   Could not obtain CmdLine processing service
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ $

Does rm -r ~/.mozilla help?
BTW: The Mozilla nightly builds are much better than M17. :)

moritz
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Re: Article: Debian's Daunting Installation

[Alec Smith]

I must say that I find the constant reviews and comments that say "Debian
is hard to install" somewhat entertaining. When I first installed Debian
(Hamm), I found the installation fairly simple. Overall, I prefer Debian's
installation procedures when compared to those of another distribution
from North Carolina. While that other distribution always seems fairly
rigid, I find that Debian gives me some level of freedom to install what I
want, and ONLY what I want.

What might be "hard" to a new user is final system configuration and
tweaks. (Hey, any good sysadmin makes a lot of changes under /etc,
right?) This isn't a problem unique to Debian, but to all Linux
distributions. There are tools which make some of these tweaks easier --
If you can find the right tool. On the other hand, Windows is "easy" for
many user since everything (debatable) they need is located in one Control
Panel.

Alec



On Wed, 4 Oct 2000, Randy Edwards wrote:

>Has anyone seen Joe Barr's article in LinuxWorld at
> ?
> 
>I was struck by the article in a number of ways.  I think it's sad that
> an experienced user like him couldn't install Debian (sad being the knock
> goes against him -- it ain't rocket science), but on the other hand, his
> reactions are *typical* of what I've seen when I try to have new users
> install Debian (so I can't knock him I guess).
> 
>I've fallen into the mode that I now give new users the free Storm
> Linux CD, have them install that and get comfortable with GNU/Linux, and
> then tell them to apt up to a full Debian system.  I'd love to give them a
> pure Debian install, but after seeing people fail on it again and again
> (I'll ignore topics of intelligence in the general user population:-),
> unless I'm there to walk them through it I know they're bound to fall on
> their face.
> 
>Anyone else have any thoughts on this article?
> 
> -- 
>  Regards, | SAT practice quiz:  Microsoft is to software as ...
>  .|Answer:  McDonalds is to gourmet cooking.
>  Randy| 
>   |  
> 
> 
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Re: licq

[Chanop Silpa-Anan]

Once upon a time, I heard Allan Andersen say

> I've just reinstalled my debian system. It all works just fine
> except my licq.
Congrat.

>When I start the licq program I get an error
> similar to this:
> 
> 1:57:14: [WRN] Licq: Ignoring stale lockfile (pid 27928)
> 11:57:14: [ERR] Unable to load plugin (qt-gui): /usr/lib/licq/
> licq_qt-gui.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file
> or directory.
> 
> I think that all the licq program files and the qt libary files
> are installed. Any ideas why this is happing ?

You need gui plugin, try

apt-get install licq-plugin-qt2

for qt plugin or

apt-get install licq-plugin-gtk+ for gtk+ plugin (woody only)


Chanop
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Re: Mail tool for X

[Daniel Migowski]

Hi,

> Does anybody know a mail tool under  X for pick up the mail form the
> mail server. Like the one in Netscape but another one ? Under Debian
> Potato, of course.

Use kmail. This is very cool and has almost all features of netscape and some 
more. It belongs to the KDE-Environment, but also runs standalone.

Daniel Migowski

Re: Sound Blaster

[Michael P. Soulier]

On Wed, Oct 04, 2000 at 12:41:24AM -0700, Tino Ionescu wrote:
> Hi 
> I'm trying to install the driver emu10k1 for Sound Blaster Live 
> Driver's Makefile is complainig that it can't find "modversion.h" 
> Can anybody tell me what should be done?

Are you sure it's not modversions.h? Plural? 

I had no problems compiling this. All I had to do was modify the include
paths to include the kernel headers. 

ie. Add -I/usr/src/kernel-headers-2.2.17/include to CFLAGS in the
Makefile. 

There's a modversions.h, but not the singular. 

Mike

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of nerd-like effort."  -Harley Hahn, A Student's Guide to UNIX

/proc/interrupts

[Michael P. Soulier]

So, out of curiousity as I'm helping a friend with her interrupts, I look
at mine. 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] msoulier]$ cat /proc/interrupts
   CPU0   
  0:3791558  XT-PIC  timer
  1:  18949  XT-PIC  keyboard
  2:  0  XT-PIC  cascade
  8:  2  XT-PIC  rtc
 10:  16098  XT-PIC  eth0
 11: 160265  XT-PIC  EMU10K1
 12:  85654  XT-PIC  PS/2 Mouse
 13:  1  XT-PIC  fpu
 14:1511685  XT-PIC  ide0
 15: 74  XT-PIC  ide1
NMI:  0

Does the modem have to be in use before it appears here? I don't see an
entry here...

lupus:~# setserial /dev/modem
/dev/modem, UART: 16550A, Port: 0x02f8, IRQ: 3

Should be irq 3. 

Mike

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of nerd-like effort."  -Harley Hahn, A Student's Guide to UNIX

Re: Article: Debian's Daunting Installation

[John Travis]

On Wed, 04 Oct 2000, Randy Edwards wrote:
> Has anyone seen Joe Barr's article in LinuxWorld at
> ?
> 
>I was struck by the article in a number of ways.  I think it's sad that
> an experienced user like him couldn't install Debian (sad being the knock
> goes against him -- it ain't rocket science), but on the other hand, his
> reactions are *typical* of what I've seen when I try to have new users
> install Debian (so I can't knock him I guess).
> 
>I've fallen into the mode that I now give new users the free Storm
> Linux CD, have them install that and get comfortable with GNU/Linux, and
> then tell them to apt up to a full Debian system.  I'd love to give them a
> pure Debian install, but after seeing people fail on it again and again
> (I'll ignore topics of intelligence in the general user population:-),
> unless I'm there to walk them through it I know they're bound to fall on
> their face.

Just wanted to note that Storm is a full Debian distro (Hail being potato based)
+ Helix, Kde, etc.  :-)

jt
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2.4.0-test8-ReiserFS
Storm {Hail}

Re: Article: Debian's Daunting Installation

[Philipp Letschert]

>>> Randy Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 10/04/00 11:28AM >>>
   Has anyone seen Joe Barr's article in LinuxWorld at
?

Debian/GNU was my first linux-installation ever. (hamm, some year ago)
And I managed it, without any knowledge of linux. I admit I had the help of a 
good Linux Book (from the public library) the debian-installation manual and of 
course by just subscribing to this list. I have learned a lot on linux and 
operating-systems in general, because trying to understand the debian-way.

Today I prefer Debian because of its flexible installation procedure, where I 
can set up a box very quick in a lot of ways, for a lot of purposes. It is also 
very nice to install Debian from scratch over NFS or FTP. I always did this 
with my RTL8139 card and the rescue disk from the debian ftp-server.

I think everyone interested in understanding Linux is able to install Debian. 
And if you try to understand the reasons for some procedures you will learn to 
love them, because the purpose the developers have in mind, is certainly not, 
to make your life harder, or to hide anything, because they don't want to make 
money. And so they are only interested in getting the work done.

Understanding this helps you getting YOUR work done, never mind what it is.

Thats one thing I learned from the Debian installation procedure.
But you already know this, because you are subscribed to this list :)

It is certainly true that there is a "barrier" for some people in installing 
and understanding debian, but NOT in using. - I know what percentage of new 
Windoze users is able to install the OS and connect to the net without help.

If the author is not able in configuring gpm or X he probably shouldn't write 
articles for linuxworld.com

cheers, phil

broken debian links

[Michael P. Soulier]

So, anyone notice that the default bookmarks downloading with netscape
currently off the debian ftp site are broken? 
Not a major deal I realize, as I copy it over with my bookmarks file, but
I take it that the package maintainer hasn't tried them in a while. 

Mike

-- 
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"...the word HACK is used as a verb to indicate a massive amount
of nerd-like effort."  -Harley Hahn, A Student's Guide to UNIX

Re: /proc/interrupts

[Pierfrancesco Caci]

:-> "Michael" == Michael P Soulier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] msoulier]$ cat /proc/interrupts
>CPU0   
>   0:3791558  XT-PIC  timer
>   1:  18949  XT-PIC  keyboard
>   2:  0  XT-PIC  cascade
>   8:  2  XT-PIC  rtc
[...]

> Does the modem have to be in use before it appears here? I
> don't see an 
> entry here...

Yes, unless you (or some daemon) uses the corresponding interrupt, you
won't see the counts here. Nut you can see the memory regions
allocated in the ioports file.

Pf

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Re: licq

[Funn Dipp]

See my reply below...

On Wed, Oct 04, 2000 at 12:15:50PM +0200, Allan Andersen wrote:
> Hello everyone,
> 
> I've just reinstalled my debian system. It all works just fine
> except my licq. When I start the licq program I get an error
> similar to this:
> 
> 1:57:14: [WRN] Licq: Ignoring stale lockfile (pid 27928)
> 11:57:14: [ERR] Unable to load plugin (qt-gui): /usr/lib/licq/
> licq_qt-gui.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file
> or directory.
Did you install licq-plugin-qt2?  That could be the problem.

licq needs some kind of alternate plugin to actually run. If that's not 
installed, it's definitely the problem.  Just do an apt-get install 
licq-plugin-qt2 and it should install it if it's not.

isetr0

mozilla & netscape

[Michael P. Soulier]

So, can these two coexist? I've done it with debian packages, but I
decided to check out one of the nightly builds of mozilla, and it did a whole
bunch of stuff on its first invocation, and from that point on, netscape
started mozilla. I'd run it as a normal user, so it couldn't have altered
anything beyond my personal files, but even after I deleted .mozilla, and the
nightly build, and uninstalled the mozilla deb package I was running, typing
netscape still started mozilla! I don't know how, but I finally uninstalled
netscape entirely and reinstalled it, which fixed the problem. How could that
have happened if it could only alter my personal files??

Mike

-- 
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"...the word HACK is used as a verb to indicate a massive amount
of nerd-like effort."  -Harley Hahn, A Student's Guide to UNIX

Re: Article: Debian's Daunting Installation

[Philipp Letschert]

>>> "Philipp Letschert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 10/04/00 01:15PM >>>


>>> Randy Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 10/04/00 11:28AM >>>
   Has anyone seen Joe Barr's article in LinuxWorld at
?

And if one is not able to wrap long lines, he probably should not write
to this list. ;)
I am sorry for that.

phil


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Re: /proc/interrupts

[Michael P. Soulier]

On Wed, Oct 04, 2000 at 02:23:58PM +0200, Pierfrancesco Caci wrote:

> Yes, unless you (or some daemon) uses the corresponding interrupt, you
> won't see the counts here. Nut you can see the memory regions
> allocated in the ioports file.

Yup, just tested that by dialing somewhere. Setserial reports fine in any
case. 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] /proc]$ cat ioports
[snip]
02f8-02ff : serial(set)
[snip]

And yes, there it is. Thanks for the pointers. 

I guess setserial is used to set all these values for serial ports. Kind
of annoying that there isn't one program where you can handle your resources,
but I guess that's what distros like Mandrake are about with DrakConf and
such. Trying to give you a winblows-like control-panel. 
As long as I know where to get the information, and set it, I'm good. The
proc filesystem is such a cool idea...

Mike

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of nerd-like effort."  -Harley Hahn, A Student's Guide to UNIX

RE: X-windows + Rage Fury Pro Vivo compatibility

[Kimsey-Hickman, Brian]

Yes, I have.  However, I used x86config to set up my configuration file not
x86setup.  

Brian

-Original Message-
From: Valentín Alba [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 4:46 PM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: X-windows + Rage Fury Pro Vivo compatibility


Does anybody make X-windows run with ATI Rage 128 Pro with Debian 2.2?
Even in VGA or SVGA mode?
Thanks


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Slink ISO images

[jvicente]

Does somebody know where can i get them?
They where all replaced by potato ones...

Please copy me the answer, because i´m not subscribed to the list.
Thanks

TFTP install

[Pål Løberg]

Is it possible to do the entire installation of Debian i386 from TFTP
without using any disks?

I've got a diskless workstation with a network card that allot me to boot
it using TFTP, but all the info I've found on installing Debian using TFTP
(not much either) seems to require booting from a floppy.

Any ideas?

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Re: Article: Debian's Daunting Installation

[Falchion]

Actually, Storm Linux, based on Debian (In fact, can use debian's site for
apt-getting), has a GREAT installer for newbies actually.  Mandrake was
also easy to install.  Debian should take a look at Storm's installer and
newbies will finally have nothign to bitch about.

On Wed, 04 Oct 2000 06:48:17 Alec Smith wrote:
> I must say that I find the constant reviews and comments that say "Debian
> is hard to install" somewhat entertaining. When I first installed Debian
> (Hamm), I found the installation fairly simple. Overall, I prefer
> Debian's
> installation procedures when compared to those of another distribution
> from North Carolina. While that other distribution always seems fairly
> rigid, I find that Debian gives me some level of freedom to install what
> I
> want, and ONLY what I want.
> 
> What might be "hard" to a new user is final system configuration and
> tweaks. (Hey, any good sysadmin makes a lot of changes under /etc,
> right?) This isn't a problem unique to Debian, but to all Linux
> distributions. There are tools which make some of these tweaks easier --
> If you can find the right tool. On the other hand, Windows is "easy" for
> many user since everything (debatable) they need is located in one
> Control
> Panel.
> 
> Alec
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, 4 Oct 2000, Randy Edwards wrote:
> 
> >Has anyone seen Joe Barr's article in LinuxWorld at
> > ?
> > 
> >I was struck by the article in a number of ways.  I think it's sad
> that
> > an experienced user like him couldn't install Debian (sad being the
> knock
> > goes against him -- it ain't rocket science), but on the other hand,
> his
> > reactions are *typical* of what I've seen when I try to have new users
> > install Debian (so I can't knock him I guess).
> > 
> >I've fallen into the mode that I now give new users the free Storm
> > Linux CD, have them install that and get comfortable with GNU/Linux,
> and
> > then tell them to apt up to a full Debian system.  I'd love to give
> them a
> > pure Debian install, but after seeing people fail on it again and again
> > (I'll ignore topics of intelligence in the general user population:-),
> > unless I'm there to walk them through it I know they're bound to fall
> on
> > their face.
> > 
> >Anyone else have any thoughts on this article?
> > 
> > -- 
> >  Regards, | SAT practice quiz:  Microsoft is to software as ...
> >  .|Answer:  McDonalds is to gourmet cooking.
> >  Randy| 
> >   |  
> > 
> > 
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Re: TFTP install

[Ethan Benson]

On Wed, Oct 04, 2000 at 02:46:18PM +0200, Pål Løberg wrote:
> 
> Is it possible to do the entire installation of Debian i386 from TFTP
> without using any disks?
> 
> I've got a diskless workstation with a network card that allot me to boot
> it using TFTP, but all the info I've found on installing Debian using TFTP
> (not much either) seems to require booting from a floppy.

i think it should be possible, i know it is for sparc and powerpc.  i
have no idea on intel (is that even what your using?)

on powerpc all that you need to do is setup bootp to shoot the
bootloader over, and the bootloader gets its config file from tftp.
the config is like lilo where you have an image section like this:

image=linux
label=debian
initrd=root.bin
initrd-size=8192

this will vary for other systems, as they have different bootstrap
mechanisms.  

you do need to make the installation files available via NFS or some
other means i don't think you can install drivers/base over tftp (not
sure on that...)  but if you have tftp NFS should not be a problem.

all you really need to figure out is how to netboot the kernel with
the ramdisk, this is usually handled by the bootloader (lilo, yaboot
etc) if this is intel i don't know what bootloader they use for
network boot (if any)

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Re: licq

[Andrei Ivanov]

After you installed the plugin, you still might get errror messages about
not being able to see the plugin.
The way around that is to start licq and specify directly where and which
plugin to use:
licq -p absolute_path_to_plugin   like
licq -p /usr/lib/licq/licq_gtk_gui.so
Andrei

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Re: none

[David Z. Maze]

David Kronholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
DK> I'm a Linux newbie, and I've jut installed 2.0 on a PC.

Why not the much newer Debian 2.2?

DK> Everything went okay, except when I try to boot from the hard
DK> disk, it hangs at a '1FA:' prompt, and I can't type anything.

This is the master boot record contained in the mbr package.  If you
type '1', it will boot off of /dev/hda1; if you type 'F', off of the
floppy (/dev/fd0); if you type 'A', you'll have the option to boot off 
of any partition on /dev/hda, even those that aren't explicitly
flagged as bootable.

DK> Also, if I do a rescue reboot, and try to configure XF86, I can't
DK> get any mouse pointer movement, and it fails to launch the
DK> server. Any help?

What sort of mouse do you have?  How are you trying to configure X?
'xf86config' is a console-mode program that will generate an
XF86Config file from the answers to its questions.

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installing network cards

[Chris Mason]

Everytime I try to modprobe my linksys network cards or use modconf to
intsall the module into the kernel, it fails. I am using the tulip driver
that comes with the 2.2.17 kernel. I installed the kernel binary.
I have tried with 3c509b cards also using the 3c509.o module to no avail
either. WHat am I not doing right? Could it be an IRQ problem - how do I
solve it?

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Re: Slink ISO images

[jvicente]

I prefer Slink because of its age. May be windows taught me that you
shouldn't trust in first implementations.
But if there's no choice, I'll download potato.





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I'm willing to bet they're gone, and gone for good. The ISOs take up a =
ton
of space, so there's no reason to expect mirrors or even Debian itself =
to
keep them archived once they've been outdated by a new release. Do
yourself a favor and skip Slink and download the Potato images.


On Wed, 4 Oct 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Does somebody know where can i get them?
> They where all replaced by potato ones...
>
> Please copy me the answer, because i=B4m not subscribed to the list.
> Thanks
>
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RE: libdb.so.3 missing

[Thomas Halahan]

Andrew,

I have had very similar problems.  I upgraded to libc6
libc6_2.1.94-1, which caused certain programs (apache, gnome-apt) to
not locale libdb.so.3.  So I upgraded my libdb2 and this didn't help.
 As encouraged I upgraded to libc6_2.1.94-3 but I could not becuase
it required libdb.so.3 which was missing.  So I downdraded libc6 and
my ldconfig dissapeard.  I'm now in trouble - as I can't re-install
ldso (the package with ldconfig).  

How did you reinstall ldconfig?

Tom

On Sat, 30 Sep 2000, Pollywog wrote:
> On 30-Sep-2000 P.J.Walsh wrote:
> > dpkg is choking on some upgrades, showing libdb.so.3 missing... dpkg
> > -S doesn't help.  To what does it belong?
> 
> It belongs to the libdb package but the problem is with libc6.
> I had to revert to the previous versions of libc6, libc6-dev, and locales.
> 
> The new libc6 packages are buggy.  Your ldconfig is probably missing after the
> libc6 upgrade.  Mine just disappeared.
> 
> --
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> 
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Re: libdb.so.3 missing

[Ben Collins]

On Wed, Oct 04, 2000 at 02:18:17PM +, Thomas Halahan wrote:
> Andrew,
> 
> I have had very similar problems.  I upgraded to libc6
> libc6_2.1.94-1, which caused certain programs (apache, gnome-apt) to
> not locale libdb.so.3.  So I upgraded my libdb2 and this didn't help.
>  As encouraged I upgraded to libc6_2.1.94-3 but I could not becuase
> it required libdb.so.3 which was missing.  So I downdraded libc6 and
> my ldconfig dissapeard.  I'm now in trouble - as I can't re-install
> ldso (the package with ldconfig).  
> 
> How did you reinstall ldconfig?

dpkg --force-bad-path -i ldconfig.deb

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Re: libdb.so.3 missing

[Ben Collins]

On Wed, Oct 04, 2000 at 09:31:56AM -0400, Ben Collins wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 04, 2000 at 02:18:17PM +, Thomas Halahan wrote:
> > Andrew,
> > 
> > I have had very similar problems.  I upgraded to libc6
> > libc6_2.1.94-1, which caused certain programs (apache, gnome-apt) to
> > not locale libdb.so.3.  So I upgraded my libdb2 and this didn't help.
> >  As encouraged I upgraded to libc6_2.1.94-3 but I could not becuase
> > it required libdb.so.3 which was missing.  So I downdraded libc6 and
> > my ldconfig dissapeard.  I'm now in trouble - as I can't re-install
> > ldso (the package with ldconfig).  
> > 
> > How did you reinstall ldconfig?
> 
> dpkg --force-bad-path -i ldconfig.deb
   

I meant ldso of course :)

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Re: Article: Debian's Daunting Installation

[Randy Edwards]

Philipp Letschert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

> If the author is not able in configuring gpm or X 
> he probably shouldn't write articles for linuxworld.com

   I thought the same thing.

   I'm all for teaching people about computers (being a former college 
professor, now working in a public school district) as users' (and many 
techies[sic]) real knowledge of computers is amazingly low.  But I think 
Debian's approach to installing leaves many users in the dust.

   Sure, we can say "they're idiots who don't want to read/learn anything" 
and we'd be perfectly correct -- but we still have to realize that we're 
leaving many users in the dust.

   My concern is not really for Debian, as it will go on as long as there 
are developers and volunteers for the project, but for standards like 
*.deb and for people other than hard-core techies viewing us as a viable 
distribution.

   One area which I thought Barr made a point (although overdone) is 
Debian's impact on free software.  He drew a point that Debian's "rough" 
install shines badly on all free software.  Overstated?  Sure.  But true 
in some respects?  Hmm...

 Regards,
 .
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99.

can xdm aquire a TGT on login?

[Martin Maciaszek]

I want to make xdm get a TGT (Ticket Granting Ticket) from the
server. Right now I always have to run kinit and enter my
username and password, which is the same as the local username
and password. I'm tired of entering my username and password
twice.

Any hints?

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What happened to SSH?

[Kimsey-Hickman, Brian]

What has happened to SSH?  I cannot find in dselect and I have tried
pointing apt to us.debian.org, ca.debian.org and midco.  It is just not
there.  I did look at the bugs page and there are two grave level bugs so
maybe it was removed temporarily because of that but I don't know for sure.
I'm sure someone knows.  Also, if I cannot use SSH is there a suitable
alternative?

Thanks,

Brian

Re: Off Topic - procmail

[Pollywog]

On 04 Oct 2000 08:13:14 +0200
Jan Ulrich Hasecke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> I am using spamblock. It is a collection of procmail recipes. The only
> URL I found is:
> 
> http://www.belwue.de/wwwservices/hilfestellungen/spamblock.html
> 
> Try a searchengine on spamblock.

Spamblock and Junkbuster are both good.  You could also try Popsneaker.
It uses recipes similar to Procmail's, and it checks your POP server before you 
download mail with your POP client.

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realplayer and sound

[Dan Pomohaci]

Hi

I installed realplayer using debian package and the
rp7_linux20_libc6_i386_cs1_rpm from realplayer site.
Instalation was OK but when I try to run realplayer I receive the
message:
Cannot open the audio device. Another application may be using it.

I have a Toshiba Satellite Pro 4200 laptop, debian 2.2 (potato) and
alsa sound version 0.5.8a recompiled for kernel 2.2.12 (work OK with
other applications).

Please help me.

Thanks
Dan Pomohaci

Re: What happened to SSH?

[Moritz Schulte]

"Kimsey-Hickman, Brian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:

> What has happened to SSH?  I cannot find in dselect and I have tried
> pointing apt to us.debian.org, ca.debian.org and midco.  It is just not
> there.

Have you looked in 'non-US'?

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Re: can xdm aquire a TGT on login?

[Ben Collins]

On Wed, Oct 04, 2000 at 04:14:03PM +0200, Martin Maciaszek wrote:
> I want to make xdm get a TGT (Ticket Granting Ticket) from the
> server. Right now I always have to run kinit and enter my
> username and password, which is the same as the local username
> and password. I'm tired of entering my username and password
> twice.

Look for the pam_krb5.so module (somewhere on the net). I've compiled it
and used it with no problems for ssh, login and xdm.

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pine in debian

[Parrish M Myers]

Hi,

Does anyone rember why pine isn't included in the debian install (only
the sources are)... I looked at the license and it doesn't seem that
restrictive?

Parrish Myers

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Re: libdb.so.3 missing

[Michael Smith]

I ftp'ed libdb.so.3 from a working box, stuck it in the right place on the 
machine, and
then did an upgrade.  It's ugly, but effective, since there's an upgrade that
overwrites the "borrowed" version completely.

Thomas Halahan wrote:

> Andrew,
>
> I have had very similar problems.  I upgraded to libc6
> libc6_2.1.94-1, which caused certain programs (apache, gnome-apt) to
> not locale libdb.so.3.  So I upgraded my libdb2 and this didn't help.
>  As encouraged I upgraded to libc6_2.1.94-3 but I could not becuase
> it required libdb.so.3 which was missing.  So I downdraded libc6 and
> my ldconfig dissapeard.  I'm now in trouble - as I can't re-install
> ldso (the package with ldconfig).
>
> How did you reinstall ldconfig?
>
> Tom
>
> On Sat, 30 Sep 2000, Pollywog wrote:
> > On 30-Sep-2000 P.J.Walsh wrote:
> > > dpkg is choking on some upgrades, showing libdb.so.3 missing... dpkg
> > > -S doesn't help.  To what does it belong?
> >
> > It belongs to the libdb package but the problem is with libc6.
> > I had to revert to the previous versions of libc6, libc6-dev, and locales.
> >
> > The new libc6 packages are buggy.  Your ldconfig is probably missing after 
> > the
> > libc6 upgrade.  Mine just disappeared.
> >
> > --
> > Andrew
> >
> >
> > --
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>
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Unidentified subject!

[stefan goeman]

Hello,

I am installing Debian (potato) on a laptop PC.
I have two questions concerning XF86config.
1) How should I set up a touchpad mouse ?
2) Does anybody have any idea about the horizontal and vertical refresh 
rates of the screens on laptops (It is a SIEMENS Scenic Mobile 700)


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Re: libdb.so.3 missing

[Kevin Krafthefer]

This seems to be happening to a lot of people; play with woody for a while and 
lose your
shared object libraries. But hey, that's the fun with the development version. 
This gets
posted every third day on this list.

Anyway, this is the pill that will save you (it worked for me and some "Pascal 
Hos"
user):
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-0009/msg04260.html

Enjoy,
Krafty



Thomas Halahan wrote:

> Andrew,
>
> I have had very similar problems.  I upgraded to libc6
> libc6_2.1.94-1, which caused certain programs (apache, gnome-apt) to
> not locale libdb.so.3.  So I upgraded my libdb2 and this didn't help.
>  As encouraged I upgraded to libc6_2.1.94-3 but I could not becuase
> it required libdb.so.3 which was missing.  So I downdraded libc6 and
> my ldconfig dissapeard.  I'm now in trouble - as I can't re-install
> ldso (the package with ldconfig).
>
> How did you reinstall ldconfig?
>
> Tom
>
> On Sat, 30 Sep 2000, Pollywog wrote:
> > On 30-Sep-2000 P.J.Walsh wrote:
> > > dpkg is choking on some upgrades, showing libdb.so.3 missing... dpkg
> > > -S doesn't help.  To what does it belong?
> >
> > It belongs to the libdb package but the problem is with libc6.
> > I had to revert to the previous versions of libc6, libc6-dev, and locales.
> >
> > The new libc6 packages are buggy.  Your ldconfig is probably missing after 
> > the
> > libc6 upgrade.  Mine just disappeared.
> >
> > --
> > Andrew
> >
> >
> > --
> > Unsubscribe?  mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
>
> --
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Re: libdb.so.3 missing

[Kevin Krafthefer]

Oops,

Sorry, I meant:

http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-0009/msg04260.html

Krafty

Michael Smith wrote:

> I ftp'ed libdb.so.3 from a working box, stuck it in the right place on the 
> machine, and
> then did an upgrade.  It's ugly, but effective, since there's an upgrade that
> overwrites the "borrowed" version completely.
>
> Thomas Halahan wrote:
>
> > Andrew,
> >
> > I have had very similar problems.  I upgraded to libc6
> > libc6_2.1.94-1, which caused certain programs (apache, gnome-apt) to
> > not locale libdb.so.3.  So I upgraded my libdb2 and this didn't help.
> >  As encouraged I upgraded to libc6_2.1.94-3 but I could not becuase
> > it required libdb.so.3 which was missing.  So I downdraded libc6 and
> > my ldconfig dissapeard.  I'm now in trouble - as I can't re-install
> > ldso (the package with ldconfig).
> >
> > How did you reinstall ldconfig?
> >
> > Tom
> >
> > On Sat, 30 Sep 2000, Pollywog wrote:
> > > On 30-Sep-2000 P.J.Walsh wrote:
> > > > dpkg is choking on some upgrades, showing libdb.so.3 missing... dpkg
> > > > -S doesn't help.  To what does it belong?
> > >
> > > It belongs to the libdb package but the problem is with libc6.
> > > I had to revert to the previous versions of libc6, libc6-dev, and locales.
> > >
> > > The new libc6 packages are buggy.  Your ldconfig is probably missing 
> > > after the
> > > libc6 upgrade.  Mine just disappeared.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Andrew
> > >
> > >
> > > --
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> >
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Re: Article: Debian's Daunting Installation

[Andrew D Dixon]

I'm from the Apex Tech school of Debian install (first you learn how to use a
tool then put the tool into your box).  I had a really hard time installing from
the CD's so I just installed the base system and then used apt-get to install 
any
package that I found I needed.  I would recomend this method to anyone new to
Linux or Unix as it presents your system in small easy to understan pieces and
not one huge incomprehensible chunk.  

Andy

P.S. discovering apt-get was like waking up on Christmass morning and finding a
pony under the tree.


On Wed, 4 Oct 2000, Randy Edwards wrote:
> Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 06:28:57 -0400
> To: "debian-user@lists.debian.org" 
> From: Randy Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Article: Debian's Daunting Installation
> 
>Has anyone seen Joe Barr's article in LinuxWorld at
> ?
> 
>I was struck by the article in a number of ways.  I think it's sad that
> an experienced user like him couldn't install Debian (sad being the knock
> goes against him -- it ain't rocket science), but on the other hand, his
> reactions are *typical* of what I've seen when I try to have new users
> install Debian (so I can't knock him I guess).
> 
>I've fallen into the mode that I now give new users the free Storm
> Linux CD, have them install that and get comfortable with GNU/Linux, and
> then tell them to apt up to a full Debian system.  I'd love to give them a
> pure Debian install, but after seeing people fail on it again and again
> (I'll ignore topics of intelligence in the general user population:-),
> unless I'm there to walk them through it I know they're bound to fall on
> their face.
> 
>Anyone else have any thoughts on this article?
> 
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Re: pine in debian

[Christopher W. Aiken]

On Wed, Oct 04, 2000 at 08:28:36AM -0700, Parrish M Myers wrote:
-|Hi,
-|
-|Does anyone rember why pine isn't included in the debian install (only
-|the sources are)... I looked at the license and it doesn't seem that
-|restrictive?
-|
-|Parrish Myers
-|

I'm a Debian newbee and wondered the same thing.  I just
installed the sources and built my own copy.  Pretty easy 
and it only took about 10 minutes to compile on my system.

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Re: Article: Debian's Daunting Installation

[Mike Leone]

>P.S. discovering apt-get was like waking up on Christmass morning and finding a
>pony under the tree.

Without having to clean up after it 





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Re: pine in debian

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On Wed, 4 Oct 2000, Parrish M Myers wrote:

> Does anyone rember why pine isn't included in the debian install (only
> the sources are)... I looked at the license and it doesn't seem that
> restrictive?

The pine license doesn't allow distribution of *modified*
binaries.  Unfortunately, in order to get pine to fit in with the Debian
filesystem guidelines, some changes must be made to it.  That's why it's
fine for us to distribute the patched sources.

The Pine license does offer a bit of help that potentially could address
these problems.  They request that an 'L' be appended to the version
number if a modified binary is to be distributed.  They also apparently
are willing to make special license agreements, but that goes against
Debian's policy.  I'm not quite sure why we don't choose to append the 'L'
character to the version number in order to include Pine in main.  I'm
sure it has been debated somewhere, though.

There is an unofficial Pine binary mirror that I maintain (Jaldhar H. Vyas
maintains the actual packages) that properly appends the 'L' to the
version number of the modified binaries.  You can get these packages at
http://members.mint.net/frodo/pine/

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RE: Article: Debian's Daunting Installation

[Brooks R. Robinson]

> > If the author is not able in configuring gpm or X
> > he probably shouldn't write articles for linuxworld.com
>
>I thought the same thing.

Ditto here, come on... get your hands dirty.

>
>I'm all for teaching people about computers (being a former college
> professor, now working in a public school district) as users' (and many
> techies[sic]) real knowledge of computers is amazingly low.  But I think
> Debian's approach to installing leaves many users in the dust.
>
>Sure, we can say "they're idiots who don't want to read/learn
> anything"
> and we'd be perfectly correct -- but we still have to realize that we're
> leaving many users in the dust.

I'd like to offer a more settling comment.  Getting a driver's license 
is
somewhat easy.  Driving well is a challenge for a great number of people (I
thought all cars were required to have working turn signals, but I guess I
may be wrong).  Driving in Formula or Stock Car races is something not
everyone wants or is able to do.  Debian is a sleek well maintained piece of
Linux.  Sure, you can have an engine blow (woody libc), but all in all, it
is IMHO the best.
If a person is going to install linux (install, not necessarily use), I
believe that they should UNDERSTAND what they are doing, and why.  If they
are installing linux to get out of paying for a M$ product, then my
suggestion is to quit being a *&^$#*&^ and fork over the loot to Bill.  When
Microsoft purchases RedHat and delivers MSLinux, then those people can get
there way and do an install without thinking, and thanks to GPL, they won't
be committing software piracy.

I'm ready for my flames now,

Brooks

Slash / insertion / problem

[Dimmock Nick]

I just intalled Deb 2.2 at work to use as a cgi testing base, and it's
giving me a problem I've never seen before: during a root login, keypresses
are seemingly randomly converted to forward slash (/) symbols. So I might
type 'apt-get' but get 'a/t-/et' instead. I have to delete and retype until
I get the letter I'm after. The keyboard's fine. Root is running the 2.2
defualt Bash for a shell. The odd thing is, other accounts using Bash don't
have the problem. There's no problem during login, and if I launch a second
Bash shell as root, it behaves perfectly. When I quit back to the original
shell, the problem is still there.

Any idea what's going on here?

Thanks,

Nick

apache & latest woody libc6 upgrade

[John Bagdanoff]

A lingering problem of mine since things were fixed:

/etc/init.d/apache start

*
syntax error on line 133 of /etc/apache/srm.conf:
Invalid command 'AddDefaultCharsetName', perhaps mis-spelled
or defined by a module not included in the server
configuration


This prevented the restart of apache.  I commented out the
offending line  & apache will then start up.

The line is:
#AddDefaultCharsetName iso-8859-1

John

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Re: Laptop (was: Re: Unidentified subject!)

[Pat Mahoney]

On Wed, Oct 04, 2000 at 05:27:19PM +, stefan goeman wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I am installing Debian (potato) on a laptop PC.
> I have two questions concerning XF86config.
> 1) How should I set up a touchpad mouse ?

It is likely that it is a ps2 on /dev/psaux.

> 2) Does anybody have any idea about the horizontal and vertical refresh 
> rates of the screens on laptops (It is a SIEMENS Scenic Mobile 700)

Check http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/linux-laptop/

It has links to info on many specific laptops.

> 
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> Stefan

PS:  Please use an informative subject line.  You also might want to try
asking on debian-laptop if you haven't already... (but don't cross-post).

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Missing Ping in Woody?

[Kent West]

I've been doing an "apt-get update/apt-get upgrade" from both Potato and
Woody every couple of days for the past couple of weeks. Today's upgrade
left me ping-less. Is Woody's most recent netbase broken, or have I got
some other problem going on?

Thanks!

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Re: [laptop install...]

[cls-colo spgs]

stefan goeman wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I am installing Debian (potato) on a laptop PC.
> I have two questions concerning XF86config.
> 1) How should I set up a touchpad mouse ?

[snip]

> ...it should be the same as a std mouse--/dev/psaux & ps2...

hth.

>

bentley taylor.

ps i ad-libbed the subject

b.
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Re: /proc/interrupts

[David Wright]

Quoting Michael P. Soulier ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> So, out of curiousity as I'm helping a friend with her interrupts, I look
> at mine. 
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] msoulier]$ cat /proc/interrupts
>CPU0   
>   0:3791558  XT-PIC  timer
>   1:  18949  XT-PIC  keyboard
>   2:  0  XT-PIC  cascade
>   8:  2  XT-PIC  rtc
>  10:  16098  XT-PIC  eth0
>  11: 160265  XT-PIC  EMU10K1
>  12:  85654  XT-PIC  PS/2 Mouse
>  13:  1  XT-PIC  fpu
>  14:1511685  XT-PIC  ide0
>  15: 74  XT-PIC  ide1
> NMI:  0
> 
> Does the modem have to be in use before it appears here? I don't see an
> entry here...

If you need the number when it's not in use, get it from the
intr line in /proc/stat (first number is total).

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Re: Article: Debian's Daunting Installation

[cls-colo spgs]

whoever thinks dlinux is a tough install should be pointed to
http://www.rocklinux.org.  ...they'll really have _fun_.   muhahaha.  (i'm 
sticking w/
dlinux, thank you.)

later.

bentley taylor.

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Alec Smith wrote:

> I must say that I find the constant reviews and comments that say "Debian
> is hard to install" somewhat entertaining. When I first installed Debian
> (Hamm), I found the installation fairly simple. Overall, I prefer Debian's
> installation procedures when compared to those of another distribution
> from North Carolina. While that other distribution always seems fairly
> rigid, I find that Debian gives me some level of freedom to install what I
> want, and ONLY what I want.
>
> What might be "hard" to a new user is final system configuration and
> tweaks. (Hey, any good sysadmin makes a lot of changes under /etc,
> right?) This isn't a problem unique to Debian, but to all Linux
> distributions. There are tools which make some of these tweaks easier --
> If you can find the right tool. On the other hand, Windows is "easy" for
> many user since everything (debatable) they need is located in one Control
> Panel.
>
> Alec
>
> On Wed, 4 Oct 2000, Randy Edwards wrote:
>
> >Has anyone seen Joe Barr's article in LinuxWorld at
> > ?
> >
> >I was struck by the article in a number of ways.  I think it's sad that
> > an experienced user like him couldn't install Debian (sad being the knock
> > goes against him -- it ain't rocket science), but on the other hand, his
> > reactions are *typical* of what I've seen when I try to have new users
> > install Debian (so I can't knock him I guess).
> >
> >I've fallen into the mode that I now give new users the free Storm
> > Linux CD, have them install that and get comfortable with GNU/Linux, and
> > then tell them to apt up to a full Debian system.  I'd love to give them a
> > pure Debian install, but after seeing people fail on it again and again
> > (I'll ignore topics of intelligence in the general user population:-),
> > unless I'm there to walk them through it I know they're bound to fall on
> > their face.
> >
> >Anyone else have any thoughts on this article?
> >
> > --
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> >  .|Answer:  McDonalds is to gourmet cooking.
> >  Randy|
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> >
> >
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Re: Article: Debian's Daunting Installation

[cls-colo spgs]

"Brooks R. Robinson" wrote:

> > > If the author is not able in configuring gpm or X
> > > he probably shouldn't write articles for linuxworld.com
> >
> >I thought the same thing.
>
> Ditto here, come on... get your hands dirty.
>
> >
> I'd like to offer a more settling comment.  Getting a driver's 
> license is
> somewhat easy.  Driving well is a challenge for a great number of people (I
> thought all cars were required to have working turn signals, but I guess I
> may be wrong).



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Re: realplayer and sound

[Randy Edwards]

Hi Dan,

   Does sound otherwise work on the system?  If not, check to make sure
you have rw permissions on your sound devices.

 Regards,
 .
 Randy

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to make  use of free  software,  and those  who must pay high  prices for
increasingly dated commercial offerings."  -- Scientific American, Mar.
99.

Re: Missing Ping in Woody?

[Bob Nielsen]

It looks like it moved:

$ dpkg -S /bin/ping
netkit-ping: /bin/ping

netbase now depends on a whole slew of packages, including netkit-ping,
so that *should* have been installed.  What version of netbase do you
have?

/me thinks there are getting to be a few too many separate packages.

Bob

On Wed, Oct 04, 2000 at 11:43:53AM -0500, Kent West wrote:
> I've been doing an "apt-get update/apt-get upgrade" from both Potato and
> Woody every couple of days for the past couple of weeks. Today's upgrade
> left me ping-less. Is Woody's most recent netbase broken, or have I got
> some other problem going on?

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Re: can xdm aquire a TGT on login?

[Martin Maciaszek]

On Wed, Oct 04, 2000 at 10:22:44AM -0400, Ben Collins wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 04, 2000 at 04:14:03PM +0200, Martin Maciaszek wrote:
> > I want to make xdm get a TGT (Ticket Granting Ticket) from the
> > server. Right now I always have to run kinit and enter my
> > username and password, which is the same as the local username
> > and password. I'm tired of entering my username and password
> > twice.
> 
> Look for the pam_krb5.so module (somewhere on the net). I've compiled it
> and used it with no problems for ssh, login and xdm.
> 
But the problem is, that xdm is not linked against the pam
library. (At least not xdm from XFree 3.3.6) I hoped there was a
way without having to recompile xdm.

Regards
Martin
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INSTALLING CUCIPOP

[Gabriel Toma]

How can I install cucipop on a linux box, which uses shadow passwords. I cannot
make cucipop read passwords from /etc/shadow. I think that by default it reads
the password from /etc/password, which is not my case.

Many thanks.

Gabi
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Re: broken debian links

[Colin Watson]

"Michael P. Soulier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>So, anyone notice that the default bookmarks downloading with netscape
>currently off the debian ftp site are broken? 

I do see a few broken links, yes. Use 'reportbug' to report the bug
against netscape-base-4, as that's probably the fastest way to get them
fixed.

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Intalling Debian on W2K - no fdisk

[Ken Januski]

Hi
 
I've successfully installed Debian on a pc at work 
but now have a new home pc with Windows2000. So I thought I'd follow the same 
setup I did at work on a 95 pc, run fdisk at dos prompt. But W2K doesn't seem to 
have such a thing. I know this is a very elementary question, and really more 
related to Windows that Debian, but I 
have checked FAQ and don't see anything regarding fdisk and W2K.
 
Can someone give me a clue about preparing W2K for 
a linux install? Do I need to get Partition Magic?
 
Thanks much for any help.
 
Ken

Re: Missing Ping in Woody?

[Kent West]

Bob Nielsen wrote:
> 
> It looks like it moved:
> 
> $ dpkg -S /bin/ping
> netkit-ping: /bin/ping
> 
> netbase now depends on a whole slew of packages, including netkit-ping,
> so that *should* have been installed.  What version of netbase do you
> have?
> 
> /me thinks there are getting to be a few too many separate packages.
> 
> Bob
> 
> On Wed, Oct 04, 2000 at 11:43:53AM -0500, Kent West wrote:
> > I've been doing an "apt-get update/apt-get upgrade" from both Potato and
> > Woody every couple of days for the past couple of weeks. Today's upgrade
> > left me ping-less. Is Woody's most recent netbase broken, or have I got
> > some other problem going on?
> 
> --
> Bob Nielsen, N7XY  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Bainbridge Island, WA  http://www.oz.net/~nielsen
> 

Thanks for the info.

It's netbase 4.05. Interesting, when I run "dpkg -I netbase" I get
"dpkg-deb: failed to read archive `netbase_4.05': No such file or
directory". This is immediately after successfully doing an "apt-get
--reinstall install netbase".

Also, when I try to run "apt-get install netkit-ping", I get "Sorry,
netkit-ping is already the newest version".

Aughgh! The Woodysphere! Aughgh!

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Stuart Andrews Sun 3 questions

[C. Falconer]

Stuart Andrews - your email address isn't working.


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At 09:35 PM 9/26/00 +, you wrote:
>Mr Falconer,  ( apologies iof the gender assumption is wrong )

Its a safe guess in the geek world (sadly)

>Sorry I can't help with the question but thanks for the info that
>the Debian 2.2 will boot a Sun 3/50.  I have a Sun 3/60 at home
>and was wondering if you had any tips for the setup.  I have a
>couple of Intel boxes that will allow me to boot the Sun using
>NFS root etc and runnningm a diskless client.  I have done Intel
>to Intel before but was wondering which dists and whether you had
>an NFS kernel with initrd working that you could email.   I am
>quite OK building the NFS / and /usr filessystems on the intel
>but from memory, your kernel would be customised already.

>Also, what is the method of booting via the le (lance) device.
>When I run minicom from the Intel and get the Sun3 equivalent of
>the sparc ok> prompt, what is the boot command?
>I have tried things like
>
>boot le (0,0,0)
>
>and so on.  Do I also need a RARP server.  Forgive the many questionss.
>It's been a while since I had a look at the Sun3 and getting it working.


Most of that is straight-forward...  The only bit I don't know involves
making the machine use le0 as the default boot device.  Mine was like that
when I got it... did yours have a drive installed or something?

Anyway - I had mine going fine with my potato box as an
everything-server.  The sun now reports memory errors on boot... I think
its poked :-\

To get it to work I downloaded a file called linux-xkernel2.0e.tar.gz  This
file contains an entire tree for you to put under /usr/export on your linux
server, and that contains all the files needed to boot the sun, and give it
a root filesystem.  Its about 3 Mb, yell out if you want me to mail it to
you, or you might find it somewhere on the web too.

Changes I had to make to get it working
 1)  I had to go from the kernel-space NFS drivers to the
user-space ones... not a big deal because nothing else here uses NFS.
 2)  I couldn't get it working with kernel 2.4.x  the rarpd
support is in kernel 2.2 only.  I did however find a rarpd program which
kinda worked.
Other than that - there are some options required in your kernel, but
everything is fairly well documented in the attached readme.  As soon as
xdm is running, the documentation stops.  It was quite a puzzle to find out
that I lacked a ~/.xsession, and that the default windowmanager is twm.
Yell out if you want this file emailed to you.




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Re: Missing Ping in Woody?

[Kent West]

Kent West wrote:
> 
> Bob Nielsen wrote:
> >
> > It looks like it moved:
> >
> > $ dpkg -S /bin/ping
> > netkit-ping: /bin/ping
> >
> > netbase now depends on a whole slew of packages, including netkit-ping,
> > so that *should* have been installed.  What version of netbase do you
> > have?
> >
> > /me thinks there are getting to be a few too many separate packages.
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 04, 2000 at 11:43:53AM -0500, Kent West wrote:
> > > I've been doing an "apt-get update/apt-get upgrade" from both Potato and
> > > Woody every couple of days for the past couple of weeks. Today's upgrade
> > > left me ping-less. Is Woody's most recent netbase broken, or have I got
> > > some other problem going on?
> >
> > --
> > Bob Nielsen, N7XY  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Bainbridge Island, WA  http://www.oz.net/~nielsen
> >
> 
> Thanks for the info.
> 
> It's netbase 4.05. Interesting, when I run "dpkg -I netbase" I get
> "dpkg-deb: failed to read archive `netbase_4.05': No such file or
> directory". This is immediately after successfully doing an "apt-get
> --reinstall install netbase".
> 
> Also, when I try to run "apt-get install netkit-ping", I get "Sorry,
> netkit-ping is already the newest version".
> 
> Aughgh! The Woodysphere! Aughgh!
> 

New info: When I tried "dpkg -S /bin/ping", I get "dpkg: /bin/ping not
found." I guess that means that it is indeed broken.

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Intel i810 video

[Michael Goodman]

Has anyone gotten this chip to work in Potato?  Thanks

How to configure MPPP?

[Peter Wilke]

I am using ISDN for making internet connections. Everything works fine.
Sadly I could not find a good description about how to configure MPPP
under Debian so that I can use both B-channels at the same time. Can
anybody help me?

Greetings, Peter Wilke


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Firewall, Router, PPP

[Brian Blater]

Hi everyone,

I've heard a lot about Debian and thought I would give it a try. I've been
using RedHat on and off for a little while. Before I install I wanted to ask
a few questions.

I would like to set up my system to be a firewall, router and do ppp for my
home network. Basically I would like the linux box to automatically dial my
isp whenever any of  the computers on my home network wants to access the
internet. Because of this I will need to do some routing and also want to
make sure I'm protected from the hackers by doing some kind of firewall.

Since this is all I want this machine to do (I have another machine that
will sit behind the "firewall" for other things,) what packages do you
suggest I install? Or maybe I should ask what packages I deffinitely do not
want to install. I know there are some applications with security risks and
since this machine will only be doing the above mentioned tasks I won't need
everything, just the basics.

Are there any gotchas or things I should before installing Debian? What
types of installation methods are there with Debian? Server, workstation,
custom?

Thanks for your help and suggestions.
Brian

Re: How to configure MPPP?

[Phillip Deackes]

Peter Wilke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am using ISDN for making internet connections. Everything works
> fine.
> Sadly I could not find a good description about how to configure MPPP
> under Debian so that I can use both B-channels at the same time. Can
> anybody help me?

No problem. Have a look at this site for full instructions:

http://www.thennion.demon.co.uk/ISDN.html


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Using Storm Linux

Basic Debian firewall

[Gary Hennigan]

Is the "ipmasq" package what one needs to install to get a basic
firewall up and running under Debian? I'm using PMFirewall now, and I
don't have any complaints with it. It was VERY easy to get a decent
firewall up and running with it, but now that I know a bit more about
ipchains I'm leaning toward using a Debian-only solution just to keep
my firewall PC as consistent as possible.

TIA,
Gary

Re: Missing Ping in Woody?

[Bob Nielsen]

What version of netkit-ping is (supposedly) installed? I have 0.10-3
here and it includes /bin/ping.  Perhaps "apt-get install --reinstall
netkit-ping" is in order.

I've had my share of "interesting woody events" in the past week or so,
but ping hasn't been a problem here.

I don't know if it would make a difference, but you probably shouldn't
mix woody and potato in sources.list.  There are symlinks in woody for
those packages which haven't changed.

Bob

On Wed, Oct 04, 2000 at 01:49:22PM -0500, Kent West wrote:

> > Thanks for the info.
> > 
> > It's netbase 4.05. Interesting, when I run "dpkg -I netbase" I get
> > "dpkg-deb: failed to read archive `netbase_4.05': No such file or
> > directory". This is immediately after successfully doing an "apt-get
> > --reinstall install netbase".
> > 
> > Also, when I try to run "apt-get install netkit-ping", I get "Sorry,
> > netkit-ping is already the newest version".
> > 
> > Aughgh! The Woodysphere! Aughgh!
> > 
> 
> New info: When I tried "dpkg -S /bin/ping", I get "dpkg: /bin/ping not
> found." I guess that means that it is indeed broken.
> 
> -- 
> Kent West
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
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procmail & postfix

[dirk]

Hi All. Can someone here explain if there is something
special about postfix and procmail? I am far from an expert
of MTA's and don't intend to become one. I only want to sort
the mailinglists to which I am subscribed. Just following
simple examples doesn't work (right away) so I am curious if
I should do (or don't do) something different when using
postfix instead of exim or sendmail or so. 

TIA, 

Dirk

Re: can xdm aquire a TGT on login?

[Ben Collins]

On Wed, Oct 04, 2000 at 07:40:54PM +0200, Martin Maciaszek wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 04, 2000 at 10:22:44AM -0400, Ben Collins wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 04, 2000 at 04:14:03PM +0200, Martin Maciaszek wrote:
> > > I want to make xdm get a TGT (Ticket Granting Ticket) from the
> > > server. Right now I always have to run kinit and enter my
> > > username and password, which is the same as the local username
> > > and password. I'm tired of entering my username and password
> > > twice.
> > 
> > Look for the pam_krb5.so module (somewhere on the net). I've compiled it
> > and used it with no problems for ssh, login and xdm.
> > 
> But the problem is, that xdm is not linked against the pam
> library. (At least not xdm from XFree 3.3.6) I hoped there was a
> way without having to recompile xdm.

So you are using Debian, or is it that you are using a Debian version
older than potato (2.2)?

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Re: INSTALLING CUCIPOP

[Ben Collins]

On Wed, Oct 04, 2000 at 09:18:27PM +0300, Gabriel Toma wrote:
> How can I install cucipop on a linux box, which uses shadow passwords. I 
> cannot
> make cucipop read passwords from /etc/shadow. I think that by default it reads
> the password from /etc/password, which is not my case.

Sounds like you aren't giving it enough privs. It needs to either run as
root, or the user it does run as needs to be in the shadow group. Or you
need to make it use PAM, in which case it doesn't need any of this.

Ben

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Re: procmail & postfix

[Moritz Schulte]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> Hi All. Can someone here explain if there is something
> special about postfix and procmail? I am far from an expert
> of MTA's and don't intend to become one. I only want to sort
> the mailinglists to which I am subscribed. Just following
> simple examples doesn't work (right away) so I am curious if
> I should do (or don't do) something different when using
> postfix instead of exim or sendmail or so. 

hmm, when i used postfix some time ago, i had to enable procmail in
the main.cf. search in the main.cf for "procmail" or "command" or
something... :)

moritz
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dac960 problems

[armin glaab]

I try to install debian (potato), my problems if I boot with the first
CD the kernel doesn´t detect the mylex raidcontroller. I made me two
bootdisk 1. install/rescue disk & 2. root disk, with the compact kernel,

but the rescue disk doesn´t boot, what did i wrong??

thanks for help

armin glaab

Re: procmail & postfix

[dirk]

On Wed, Oct 04, 2000 at 11:27:27PM +0200, Moritz Schulte wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> 
> hmm, when i used postfix some time ago, i had to enable procmail in
> the main.cf. search in the main.cf for "procmail" or "command" or
> something... :)
> 
>   moritz
I  found that one but it doesn't work (yet). 

Dirk

Eterm auto theme

[Joel Dinel]

I'm using an up to date woody. How can I set up Eterm to always use the theme 
"auto" so it'll get the decorations to match the blueheart Enlightenemnt theme ?

Re: Intel i810 video

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

yes i installed i810 on about 12 dell GX110s with potato.

nate

On Wed, 4 Oct 2000, Michael Goodman wrote:

mgoodm >Has anyone gotten this chip to work in Potato?  Thanks
mgoodm >
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