Re: FTP trought firewall (inverse)
On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 09:03:59PM -0700, Nate Amsden wrote: > ftp is a horrible protocol to try to firewall because of all the ports > it uses, i suggest using the package 'iptraf' to see what ports are > being used when you connect to it. there are 2 modes of ftp, passive and > active. Switch your ftp client to PASSIVE mode and it should work(i just > tried it) using unix ftp just type 'passive'. To get active mode unfortunatly i think there are some lame servers that do not support PASV but i think they are becoming more rare.. > working you will have to forward thousands of ports most likely as i > believe it uses a random port above 1024. You can also try to find a ftp > server that forces the client into passive mode if you have users that > won't know how to use passive. IMO though, ftp is insecure and i > reccomend using SSH w/scp to transfer files(it encrypts both the login > and the data). heh, i have gotten into a flamewar several times with someone i know in irc conversations about the merits of scp over ftp, the problem is he is a MacOS user who maintaines web sites, he uses a MacOS ftp program called Anarchie to upload the site. he refuses to consider using scp instead since it is not `drag and drop' there are also pesky windows lusers who use basically the same excuse. trying to force scp on these people would result in a lynching of the sysadmin ;-) and yes i am aware of various kludges to enable ftplike attributes to scp, the problem is those won't work with the specific ftp clients (Anarchie) that these users demand to use. even sslized ftp is not an option since these clients of course don't support that either... so the way i see it we as sysadmins are not going to be able to kill and bury ftp until there is a sftp implementation that is Free (speech) and the popular ftp clients support that protocol (read Anarchie on MacOS and whatever it is Win* lusers insist on) /me who wants the OpenBSD guys to add a fourth grave for ftp to the OpenSSH t-shirt. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgpFAF1kx7DYa.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: ISP server assigned nameserver addressing - how?
in 99.9% of cases you do not have to use your ISP's DNS. you can use any DNS(use mine if you want 209.102.24.193 & 194) to find an ISP's numeric DNS i would suggest using WHOIS, or dig. dig domainname.com whois domainname.com both will give u numeric DNS settings for the domain. nate Phillip Deackes wrote: > > I have always added my ISP's nameservers address to /etc/resolv.conf and > have found that most ISPs tend to specify that you should set up Windows > DUN for server assigned DNS addresses. On occasions I have found it very > difficult to get hold of actual numeric addresses. > > Can nameserver addresses be otained dynamically with Linux? All the > documentation I have read points to physically adding the address to > /etc/resolv.conf > > I use ISDN and have upgraded to Woody. > > -- > Phillip Deackes > Using Storm Linux > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null -- ::: ICQ: 75132336 http://www.aphroland.org/ http://www.linuxpowered.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt-get won't play
just a FYI, about a week or 2 ago, the stable branch changed to 2.2 so
you were actually trying to go from 2.0 -> 2.2.
nate
Nick Cook wrote:
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> FWIW, I fixed my apt-get problem by following the old adage: when in
> doubt, blow it out.
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> I purged apt from my system, manually ftp'ed (if that's a verb!) apt from
> the slink/admin directory, and re-installed via dpkg.
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> Apt-get now goes online, gets the potato stable lists with no problem, and
> starts the upgrade process ('tho I didn't continue 'cause the time
> estimate was 19 hours!).
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> - Nick
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Re: Upgrade from potato to woody?
montefin wrote: > I avoided some problems by doing: > apt-get --simulate dist-upgrade > Can U please elaborate on this ? Can U pipe this to get some sort of a log ? Tnx for this nifty point..real good !! -- ragOO, VU2RGU Keeping the Air-Waves FREE.Amateur Radio Keeping the W W W FREE..Debian GNU/Linux
Re: xfree86 development package
"John L. Fjellstad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, Aug 21, 2000 at 03:11:18AM -0600, Bruce Sass wrote: > > > > I'm trying to compile and install knapster. Unfortunately, it needs > > > the xfree86 header files. Anyone know which package these files are in? > > > > xlib6g-dev > > Are you sure that is all I need. I have it installed (according to > dpkg --list), and all I can find in /usr/include/X11 is two directories > bitmaps, and pixmaps. Shouldn't there be some header files there too? Look at the output of `dpkg -L xlib6g-dev' to see what it installs. I grep'ed for *.h files and counted 213 of them. Note that most are in /usr/X11R6/include/X11. -- Olaf Meeuwissen Epson Kowa Corporation, Research and Development
Re: ISP server assigned nameserver addressing - how?
On Tue, 22 Aug 2000 22:23:02 PDT, Nate Amsden writes: >in 99.9% of cases you do not have to use your ISP's DNS. you can use any >DNS(use mine if you want 209.102.24.193 & 194) to find an ISP's numeric >DNS i would suggest using WHOIS, or dig. But using "further" away DNS´s _will_ affect your browsing speed, eg if netscape wants to connect to a page with lots o banners or otherwise linked other sites there´s easily 20-30 dns-lookups per page, and netscape does them one after one, so there are seconds lost sometimes before netscape even gets the the whole page html-wise... &rw -- / Robert Waldner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | Phone: +43 1 89933 0 Fax x533 \ \KPNQwest/AT tech staff| Diefenbachg. 35 A-1150 Wien /
Re: We really need a FAQ!
On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 07:46:11PM -0600, s. keeling wrote: > On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 05:16:08PM -0500, Will Trillich wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 21, 2000 at 09:51:45PM -0600, s. keeling wrote: > > > Here's my first cut of questions that ought to be in a debian-users FAQ: > > > > if only someone had this started up when i was getting > > As you no doubt have seen from the list, they did. I'd lost track of > it long ago (http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/), but it was helpful when > I saw it. It does need more promotion on debian-users though. i've known about the current faq... i get the impression someone got off to a good start with a 'user-centric' approach, and then got lost in the quagmire of 'structure it the way the developers think about it'. i have no truck with any of its contents; it's just not conducive to a newbie, who's looking for an answer to a certain question or issue, to learn what she needs to learn. > Lots of your items were good ones, and we should see if they can be > incorporated, or if they need to be (I've no idea how current the > original version is; have to go over it again). one thing's for certain -- the FOM (faq-o-matic) is wy out of date. (how to upgrade to hamm, for example.) > I'll keep following this thread and decide what to do about it in a few > days. i'd love to see some activity from the general user community on this issue. the official web and documentation folks are quite busy, and i think we'd have a better shot at gearing it towards 'the newbies we were last month' than they would, anyway...
Re: tetex slink -> potato
On 22 Aug 2000, paul tanner wrote: > After the upgrade I can't use the extra > stuff that I had in > /usr/local/lib/texmf. After examining a > copy of my old slink installation I > found the ``local'' link in texmf/ and > in /usr/share/texmf I added: > ln -s /usr/local/share/texmf local > and moved my local stuff to: > /usr/local/share/texmf > and did the rehash in texconfig. > > Now my local files are listed in ls-R > but TeX don't find them when working on > a doc containing: \input [file] . > > I'm testing with document sources that > worked OK in my old slink version. > Where have I gone wrong? > > Paul Tanner Have you run texhash? Also, cd /tmp and then do: initex latex.ltm (ignore any messages about sources being more than one year old). Then copy latex.fmt to /var/lib/texmf/web2c I had to do the above to make my local tex files work. Anthony -- Anthony Campbell - running Linux Debian 2.1 (Windows-free zone) Book Reviews: http://www.cix.co.uk/~acampbell/bookreviews/ Skeptical articles: http://www.cix.co.uk/~acampbell/freethinker/ "To be forced by desire into any unwarrantable belief is a calamity." I.A. Richards
net install of staroffice 5.2
hi all, this is not debian specific, but maybe somebody can help me. i'm trying to install staroffice 5.2 using the 'net' switch, so every user doesn't need to install his/her own copy of staroffice. i already did it successfully with so 5.1, but i'm unable to do that with 5.2. sun gives you a whole .bin file. by executing that file you start installation .. but there's no way of passing the /net switch. without switch, it installs the one-user only. reading the docs from sun doesn't help much .. they refer to a setup script, which doesn't exist before running the .bin file, and that doesn't do anything after: it just gives you option to repair/uninstall/modify, but not to reinstall. so if anybody knows if there's anything i can try .. TIA Marco Frattola (Pianificazione processi) - Cubecom S.p.A. Via de Marini,1 3 piano Torre WTC 16149 GENOVA tel. 010 6591184
Re: xfree86 development package
"John L. Fjellstad" wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 21, 2000 at 12:39:14PM -0600, Bruce Sass wrote: > > > ~$ dpkg -S /usr/X11R6/include/X11/X.h > > xlib6g-dev: /usr/X11R6/include/X11/X.h > > > > You were just looking in the wrong place. > > You know what? My bad. You wrote xlib6g-dev, and I read it as > xlib6g, which I did have install. Sorry:*( > > At least I learned a new command, dpkg -S. Very useful. Been wondering > how to get a list of files in a package. to list files in a package, use dpkg -L also quite useful :) nate -- ::: ICQ: 75132336 http://www.aphroland.org/ http://www.linuxpowered.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Win98 won't shutdown after Linux install
When i get something like that, and it pisses me off for long enough i reinstall win98. note i ditched win9* a long time ago, because of such errors :) haven't had to reinstall a linux box(ever). win9x had me reinstalling 3-4 times a year minimum. nate Jonathan Neufeld wrote: > > I'm a casual user of Linux and have some familiarity with several > distributions. I recently bought a new computer and installed Win98 > first, then paritioned the drive (using DiskDrake during a Mandrake > install) and installed several distributions, including Debian 2.2 and > Storm. Since partitioning my drive, Win98 has refused to shut down > cleanly and has given me the error "WINDOWS: A fatal exception 0E has > occurred at 0028:C00051EF in VXD VMM(01) + 41EF. The current > application will be terminated." After pressing any key, the screen > reverts to a blank green background with the mouse pointer in the > middle, but the machine is totally unresponsive. I have to do a hard > boot to get things going again. None of my Linux install are affected, > and after cleaning itself up, Win98 seems fine, too. > > I realize this is NOT a M$ support list. But I thought I might find a > kind soul here who has dealt with this problem or could refer me to the > right group. Thanks for any help offered. > > Jonathan > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null -- ::: ICQ: 75132336 http://www.aphroland.org/ http://www.linuxpowered.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SpeedStream 4060 DSL "modem"
Doesn't look like it's supported, at least not officially yet: http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/showdevices.php3?id=14 nate David Karlin wrote: > > Hello, > I'm converting a win98 system into a potato masq-box for > a small office. It is connected to the Internet via DSL > with a SpeedStream 4060 DSL "modem" which connects to the > host machine via USB. > > Is this supported by Debian? Has anyone [successfully] > used the SpeedStream 4060 with Debian? > > Please reply to me directly. > > TIA. > > -- > David Karlin > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Powered by Debian GNU/Linux > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null -- ::: ICQ: 75132336 http://www.aphroland.org/ http://www.linuxpowered.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems installing
Yes, i usually choose NO when prompted to set up X during installation that is something i usually do after installation is complete. Debian 2.2 has this really neat tool called anXious, part of the 'xvidetect' package. it works quite well for modern video cards. You can also use xf86config, or XF86Setup. nate Ray Percival wrote: > > I was finally able to overcome the problem the floppy images suck. I just > ended up doing a ftp install. Now my problem is with x. when it tries to > detect my card it can't see my agp tnt2. I choose to install x. I tell it > yes. downloads. Starts to install asks if I want to set up the config file. > At this point if I tell it yes it fails. If I tell it no will it install x > and then let me run xf86config later? Also should I be concered that it can't > see my card or is this just a fluke and if i point it to it should it be able > to see it. Thanks all. Ray > > -- Original Message -- > From: Nate Amsden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 21:30:39 -0700 > > >I had a very bad experience with cheapbytes(cheapshit) cdroms of debian > >2.1 they were > >full of curropted packages. On the other hand i would suggest getting > >cds from www.linuxmall.com *I* havent had any bad experiences with them > >(yet). Another option is to download the rescue disk and base install > >disks from the ftp site to install the kernel/base off the floppy then > >try to install the rest from cd. > > > >linuxmall.com has good prices, typically each cd is $2 or $3. not sure > >if they have debian 2.2 yet i wouldnt be suprised if it takes another > >couple weeks. > > > >nate > > > >Ray Percival wrote: > >> > >> I'm trying to install 2.2 off of a set of CDs from cheapbytes. It is the > >> official image. I get to where it wants to install the kernel. I tell it > >> to install off of the cd it mounts the cd. I have checked that it is > >> mounted in the other terminal I have also mounted it by hand and used the > >> mounted option. I then point it to . Let it try to find the path it pulls > >> up a path that looks good and then grinds away for a bit then asks for a > >> rescue floppy :) I've tried several different paths and have double > >> checked that the CD is mounted. That is as far as I got before I fell > >> asleep :). Any ideas hints pointers? Thanks all very much. > >> Ray > >> > >> -- > >> Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null > > > >-- > >::: > >ICQ: 75132336 > >http://www.aphroland.org/ > >http://www.linuxpowered.net/ > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > >-- > >Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null > > > > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null -- ::: ICQ: 75132336 http://www.aphroland.org/ http://www.linuxpowered.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
gnome install
Hi all, I address the following questions to this mailing list because I do not know yet if they are specific to Debian implementation I finally reach to install gnome with Enlightenment as wm with the last distribution package (2.2 rev0) on my linux box with a Intel pentium III and 128Mb ram. I met two different kind of problems: first with gnome-moz?-remote ... which failed because: /dev/dsp no such device exit code (-1) ... but ls -l /dev/dsp shows me well a character device with major number 14 and minor 3 as build with MAKEDEV -rw-rw access right for root audio? I then rebuild the kernel with all audio device option (even thought I have no sound devices but the build in 'buser') but no dsp module seems to be add. After the reboot with new kernel (after the usual make modules and make modules_install), I still have the same error. (It seems also that screensaver meet the same problem). Do I have to install additional audio package (without sound device)? second netscape-remote (from netscape-base-4) failed because: could not open display :0 ? Any suggestion? Thanks in advance for advises? Joel
Re: Linux Mail Client (was: Re: Web browsers for Linux (was: Re: Netscape Bus Error))
On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 09:53:43PM -0700, brian moore wrote: > Huh? From a single source? Yes, a single source. Fetchmail. > Note that in my example (if you had bothered to read it), you would have > seen that ~/.procmailrc was irrelevant. Each pop3 mailbox had its own > (optional) procmailrc. I fail to see how you cannot understand that my position of having to filter from a single source is a problem by pointing out... I can filter! > You mean exim doesn't have an MDA? How does mail get into your mailbox? > Or do you mean "exim comes with its own MDA". > There is a HUGE difference. Exim /IS/ an MDA. It doesn't come with an MDA, it fills that role. > How insane? You do the math: That doesn't tell me jack nor does it state how many accounts you have. I have stated quite a but that the system, as proposed, is fine for a /single/ account but breaks down after that. > Yes it does. Are you telling me that my mail configuration doesn't > work? How the hell did I get this mail? Am I just talking to the wall? > (I may as well, be, but that's a different matter.) You have not solved simple issues like sending out the proper SMTP server, for example. /YOUR/ configuration is, IMHO, substandard to mine. It requires /LESS/. > You have done no such thing. "Look at this picture!" is hardly a > functional example. It's not even a bloody mockup. I'm -not- about to > defile a system and pay for Windows to see what -you- want in a mail > client. Oh jeez. C'mon, Brian. You've said you've been following me on this issue for three years and you are now stating that I have not once in that time ever described what was needed and why the current system fails? Get real! I have drawn charts showing problems, I have described it in detail, and if you looked at the bloody picture you'd understand what I was getting at because it is evident in that picture! Stop being willfully ignorant! > Well, quite frankly, whiney sods saying "Write code my way or I will > continue to use Windows for mail!" aren't likely to make me care. -You- > have a very arrogant attitude, insisting that YOUR way is right and > "fuck you if you don't agree with me!" I have not insisted. I have explained the differences, why the proposed system fails, what the current alternatives are, why certain parts do and do not work. That is more than just insisting and being difficult. > For many people, we have a multitude of mailboxes and addresses, yet we > are able to make mail work just fine... even if you tell us we're > imagining it. Right, but you're doing it in a manner which can cause problems outside the technical ones, down the line. As I said, I have written volumes on this manner in many different forums going so far as to even make ASCII diagrams of the data flow, offer example programs (Don't want to run Windows, borrow a friend's system for 1/2 hour. Rumor has it that Windows is pretty easy to find on people's machines), places to find the information and even after all of that, when it is plain as day to most people that I talk to, you still want /more/? -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+-
Re: FTP trought firewall (inverse)
Ethan Benson wrote: > heh, i have gotten into a flamewar several times with someone i know > in irc conversations about the merits of scp over ftp, the problem is > he is a MacOS user who maintaines web sites, he uses a MacOS ftp > program called Anarchie to upload the site. he refuses to consider > using scp instead since it is not `drag and drop' there are also pesky > windows lusers who use basically the same excuse. trying to force scp > on these people would result in a lynching of the sysadmin ;-) yeah, pretty screwed up. Most people don't realize the value of security until they are running a server and that server gets cracked.(happened to me in ~1998, i woke up pretty fast :)) ) There is a SCP d&d front end for win* from www.vandyke.com BUT it only supports SSH2 for some reason:( not sure why ... > so the way i see it we as sysadmins are not going to be able to kill > and bury ftp until there is a sftp implementation that is Free > (speech) and the popular ftp clients support that protocol (read > Anarchie on MacOS and whatever it is Win* lusers insist on) yeah, also must do away with generic POP3, IMAP4, telnet, rlogin, etc ..i run a small isp with a couple hundred users and i hate having to allow them to login from remote(managed modem) to their POP3/ftp accounts..scares me:< i installed IMAP4/SSL for those of whom wanted to access email securely. Of course UWIMAP4 is compiled with stackgaurd, and firewalled from everything except localhost, then have sslwrap listen on the imaps port and run a connection to localhost imap4, works real good(with netscape even). > /me who wants the OpenBSD guys to add a fourth grave for ftp to the > OpenSSH t-shirt. and all the other cleartext protocols..of course if we ditch all of em it will make diagnostics much harder! sigh..cant win. -- ::: ICQ: 75132336 http://www.aphroland.org/ http://www.linuxpowered.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gnome install
> I finally reach to install gnome with Enlightenment as wm with the last > distribution package (2.2 rev0) on my linux box with a Intel pentium III and > 128Mb ram. > I met two different kind of problems: > > first with gnome-moz?-remote ... which failed because: > /dev/dsp no such device > exit code (-1) means you have not configured a sound device correctly or the sound device is unsupported. > but ls -l /dev/dsp shows me well a character device with major number 14 and > minor 3 as build with MAKEDEV -rw-rw access right for root audio? > I then rebuild the kernel with all audio device option (even thought I have > no sound devices but the build in 'buser') but no dsp module seems to be > add. the /dev directory is just an interface to the drivers, just because there is an entry there does NOT mean that there is a device that the file can interface with. in this case, when gnome tries to access /dev/dsp it can't because there is no sound driver loaded. > After the reboot with new kernel (after the usual make modules and make > modules_install), I still have the same error. > (It seems also that screensaver meet the same problem). > Do I have to install additional audio package (without sound device)? you must configure your soundcard, what kind of soundcard is it? > second netscape-remote (from netscape-base-4) failed because: > could not open display :0 ? make sure you are running netscape as the same user you are logged in as, chances are you ran it as root after doing an 'su' in a terminal (that is a common thing to have happen) You CAN run apps under different userids but it takes a couple extra commands. nate -- ::: ICQ: 75132336 http://www.aphroland.org/ http://www.linuxpowered.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 1/2 ifconfig
cls-colo spgs wrote: > > debs, > > update: > > ifconfig -a gives me not only "lp" and "ppp0," but it also give me "eth0." > for now > i'd like to not have "eth0." how do i not have it in the picture? > > ia, t. > > bentley taylor > (potato on 2.2.16) > man ifconfig hth Vitux -- "I'm not a crook" Richard Nixon Debian GNU/Linux Micro$loth-free Zone
Re: WOOHOO - the Potato is installed!
On Wed, Aug 23, 2000 at 09:27:54AM +1000, John Griffiths wrote: > At 04:19 PM 8/22/2000 -0700, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: > >> a) change the colour depth. do i need to re-run XF86Setup? or is there a > >> better way? > > > >$ startx -- -bpp > > > >...where color depth is 1, 8, 16, 24 (generally deprecated), 32. > > > >Or in /etc/X11/XF86Config, change the value of "Depth" under 'SubSection > >"Display"'. > > okies... thats what i wanted to know > > > > >> b) fix helix-gnome. I downloaded helix-gnome... on reboot i get the > >> gnome login manager but an attempt to login to gnome makes the monitor > >> go "clunk" and then returnms to the login manager... it will let me log > >> into WMaker so its not the end of the world. > > > >Launch X from the command prompt (startx) and look at your error output. > > > > problem with the GDM starting itself up on boot... > > would "linux 3 " from lilo get me to a level i could then statx from? F[1-12] should have the desired effect, where "F[1-12]" is one of the F-keys from F1 - F12. You can also generally disable gdm for the current session by issuing: /etc/init.d/gdm stop ...assuming you can get to a command line. I prefer *not* using an X display manager for local sessions, instead launching X with 'startx'. If you think about it, most of what a display manager does is guarantee you the requirment and overhead of running an X session when you *don't* need one, while introducing more opportunities to foul things up. > >> c) sound i scavenged the sound card so make and model is a > >> mystery... the Rhat sndconfig always used to sort it out for me... will > >> alsaconf do the same? > > > >What were your RedHat configurations for this card? > > > > i have no clue.. it did it for me and it worked a lesson learned > perhaps... Yeah. Generally, if you've got a funky bit of hardware and a working config in some manifestation that you plan on changing, find out what made it work before destroying the data. There are a number of sound configuration tools for Debian. You might try "apropos sound" or the Sound-HOWTO. Try some stuff and tell us how it breaks. -- Karsten M. Self http://www.netcom.com/~kmself Evangelist, Opensales, Inc.http://www.opensales.org What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? Debian GNU/Linux rocks! http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/K5: http://www.kuro5hin.org GPG fingerprint: F932 8B25 5FDD 2528 D595 DC61 3847 889F 55F2 B9B0 pgpAeftIlVr1p.pgp Description: PGP signature
Mouse Doesn't Work with X
Greetings all, I just installed my first copy of Linux. Problem: X starts fine. I can use ALT key combinations to get a pop up menu and select menu items. However, I can't use my mouse. That is, neither clicking nor moving the mouse has any effect. What I did: I confirmed that my mouse is, in fact, PS/2. I confirmed that my mouse is connected to the correct port. I boot Linux. I login-ed as root. I ran 'xf86config' and selected 'PS/2' as my mouse. I started X. Mouse doesn't work. :-( What I checked: A coworker helping me checked the boot log with 'dmesg'. We found a line that says "Detected PS/2 Mouse Port". Sound like good news... We checked to see if the XF86Config file was written write. Sure enough, the mouse is PS/2. This looks good too... My plea: I don't know what the heck is going on here. What could be wrong? Can someone please help? If I've commited any Netiquette rudeness or some such, I apologize in advance. I'm new to this! :-) I think I've described the problem in sufficient detail; however, if I've left some important information out, then please tell me. I'll be more than happy to respond. Thanks, Peter
Re: Mouse Doesn't Work with X
this is the question i know the answer to! ps2 mice are at device psaux when you do the xf86setup you need to change /dev/mouse to /dev psaux then hit "a" for apply... i imagine a symlink between /dev/mouse and /dev/psaux might do the trick too? At 04:35 PM 8/23/2000 +0900, Peter Kim wrote: >Greetings all, > >I just installed my first copy of Linux. > >Problem: >X starts fine. I can use ALT key combinations to get a pop up menu and >select menu items. However, I can't use my mouse. That is, neither >clicking nor moving the mouse has any effect. > >What I did: >I confirmed that my mouse is, in fact, PS/2. >I confirmed that my mouse is connected to the correct port. >I boot Linux. >I login-ed as root. >I ran 'xf86config' and selected 'PS/2' as my mouse. >I started X. >Mouse doesn't work. :-( > >What I checked: >A coworker helping me checked the boot log with 'dmesg'. We found a line >that says "Detected PS/2 Mouse Port". Sound like good news... >We checked to see if the XF86Config file was written write. Sure enough, >the mouse is PS/2. This looks good too... > >My plea: >I don't know what the heck is going on here. What could be wrong? Can >someone please help? > >If I've commited any Netiquette rudeness or some such, I apologize in >advance. I'm new to this! :-) I think I've described the problem in >sufficient detail; however, if I've left some important information out, >then please tell me. I'll be more than happy to respond. > >Thanks, >Peter > > >-- >Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null > > >
HELP !
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Re: Linux Mail Client
On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 09:56:11PM -0700, Seth Cohn wrote: > The first one is acmemail (and it's not what we are talking about here). My apologies. Ever since I started the project several months ago it was the first listed project. I had assumed it was still the case as it was the last time I checked a few days ago. AIMS Prototype. > Stop being a smartass, if you have a project, just give us a link. I would if I had it but I do not. I have, however, mentioned that project once and clearly people missed it so I was trying to describe the location. > If you YOURSELF do not, then fine. There are dozens of email projects, 55 > at least, and I'm not going to look thru them all. Not to mention Evolution > and others that aren't there You wouldn't have to since, quite frankly, since I indicated it was at the top maybe look at the 2-3 near the top would yield it. You know what, I just checked. I stated look at the first one in email clients. The first in email is Acmemail. The first in email clients, right where I said it was, is AIMS Prototype. Registered by greydmiyu. User info on greydmiyu shows the real name as Steve Lamb. I fail to see how "look at the first one in email clients" failed since it really is still first. > This means doing things like using betas and giving feedback, writing > documentation, and much more. Hmmm. Let's see. Member of the PMMail beta process on both OS/2 and Windows since it was pre v1.5 on only OS/2. Member of the The Bat! beta process for over a year now. I run and maintain the unoffical PMMail mailing list on my machine. You're right, it is about participation. It is also about knowing when to participate and when /NOT/ to. I don't participate in the Pegasus beta program, or the Outlook or Eudora beta programs because the basic design decisions they have made run contrary to what I believe is the correct way to do things when it comes to mail. I am well aware that I am not going to convince programmers to make a change to the basic way they do things. To that end I cannot change Evolution, or KMail, or XFMail, or mutt, pine, elm, et al. because all of those teams have made a basic design decision that I cannot alter. > Complaining on the debian-user list is NOT part of that process Right > now, if you aren't a coder, and aren't willing to learn, then go give > feedback on a list that at least _matters_ to what you are complaining > about. This list does matter. Every time someone says, "I want something like this" you know what the immediate knee-jerk reaction is? "You don't want that. What you want to do is this." That is utter bullshit and you know it. So every time people ask for something quite specific I give them a very valid answer, "It doesn't exist yet." I don't tell them that they don't want to do it the way they have been doing it for 5-10 years, I tell them it doesn't exist. I tell them the truth. In the process of telling them the truth I get people like you and Brian Moore and who knows how many others telling /me/ that I am wrong and I feel compelled to explain my position. > Go bother the Evolution guys... they have a mailing list, where at > least you can have the honor of being flamed by the likes of Miguel and > Jamie. Why, they have made a design decision to be the Lookout! of Linux. That's fine, they can be that since there is a need for that. Why would I want to try to get them to change a basic design decision they have made. I don't agree with it so why waist their time and mine? So there is another part of the process. You know what that is? Admitting there is a problem. Something that you, Brian, and loads others cannot admit. That there is a problem in the current spectrum of how mail is handled, a whole that needs to be filled. > Fine, none of the existing _Linux_ programs do what you want _exactly_. Not just me. PMMail2000 and The Bat! have a dubious disctinction between the two of them. They both have consistantly been rated #1 and #2 in polls of email clients. Not of Windows clients, of clients in general. They swap places lots of times and far outstrip the pack. They are constantly cited with how nicely they handle multiple mail accounts. That isn't just me, that is a LOT of people. > This means nobody has felt the same itch as you, or has, but hasn't taken > the self-responsibility to fix. Or that and the fact that they have been told the ONE TRUE WAY and have decided to go through the masochism of trying to mangle their mail into that form. > Fixing it can mean a lot of things. Heck, put up money offering for someone > else to write it... Sponsorship is a form of self-responsibility. Which I have done, witness the colorization of joe even though I no longer use joe. However I don't think $35 is going to be enough to cover the costs of development of a mail client to decent standards. I haven't been
Perl/Gtk/Gnome Linux Mail Client deb Package
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Re: Linux Mail Client (was: Re: Web browsers for Linux (was: Re: Netscape Bus Error))
On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 09:36:14AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote > On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 07:21:38PM +0930, John Pearson wrote: > > .forward file allows you to filter your mail into any number of > > separate mailfolders at delivery time, based on a wide range of > > criteria including the contents of the headers. > > Now take it a step further, what do you do on the MUA (not mail client) > side to address that? > Well, that certainly indicates one reason why I'm having difficulty coming to grips with your requirement; we have a problem over terminology. I differentiate between MUAs, MDAs, and MTAs; examples are: MUA: mutt MDA: procmail MTA: exim Obviously, you mean something different to MUA to me (and, perhaps, others); what, in your view is an MUA if not a mail client? John P. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mdt.net.au/~john Debian Linux admin & support:technical services
Re: Potato vs Realtek8029PCI NIC
> No signs of nic when booting, insmod ne2k-pci.o gives me "unresolved > symbols"-error, and ifconfig -yadayada gives me error to the effect > that there's no hardware to configure. I have no idea why kmod doesn't insmod your modules automagically. But ne2k-pci depends on 8390 module; so try modprobe instead of insmod. I have Realtec8029 NIC right now in my computer; and ne2k-pci is compiled as a module. I've never had any problems with this NIC. -- Alexey Vyskubov (at home) Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread!
Re: Linux Mail Client (was: Re: Web browsers for Linux (was: Re: Netscape Bus Error))
On Wed, Aug 23, 2000 at 12:34:17AM -0700, brian moore wrote: > And I fail to see how a single fetchmail process reading from n servers, > with m mailboxes on each, and delivering each remote mailbox to some > number greater than m boxes on your machine is anything but what you > asked for. I fail to see that happening in any manner I found acceptable. You keep forgetting the MUA aspect where there is no concept of separate accounts. > > Exim /IS/ an MDA. It doesn't come with an MDA, it fills that role. > No. Exim is an MTA. *sigh* Are you really that stupid, Brian? I mean, really? Read that sentence again. Did I say it wasn't an MTA? No. What did I say? I don't think it is that hard. I said it is an MDA, that it fills that role. If you actually pulled your head out of your butt long enough to read the documentation of Exim you would find that a separate MDA is /not/ needed with Exim because, this may sound like deja vu, it fills the role of an MDA. Put it another way it provides filters (in the .forward file) for people to dictate how they want their mail delivered in a similar manner to procmail. It doesn't need procmail. It doesn't need any separate MDA. IE, it is an MTA and an MDA which is entirely consistant with what I said above and what I have stated in the past. If you wish to refute this claim, please provide your reasonings. I'm eager to understand why you think it doesn't fill the MDA role. > Again. the terms are loaded. I have -no- accounts. (Accounts are for, > well, accounting, and I don't pay for them.) I have an infinite number > of email addresses, of which maybe a dozen or two I use regularly. Don't play ignorant with me. This is getting tiring. Fine, if accounts are for accounting and you pay for all accounts then why do you have a root accounts on your box? And a nobody account. Oh, I guess that means you /ARE/ familiar with the term accounts separate of the billing processes of a business. Fine. A mail account, to me, is a separate set of folders, filters, and settings indpenedant of any other mail account. In fact, I have stated that several times. I fail to see how it is a loaded term when I have explained it numerous times. > 'proper'? Um, why is my SMTP server not proper? Should I change smtp > servers based on 'From:'? Goodness, that would be silly -- why on earth > would I want to, when this machine is quite capable of handling mail > itself. Because the assumption is that your machine can handle mail at all. It should not be a requirement to set up a local SMTP server to handle mail on a workstation. The MTA would be using a smart host setup. IE, blidnly forwarding all mail to another SMTP server. Well, why not have the client send to that server. That /is/ why it is client/server and why most clients can connect to multiple servers. Furthermore, I never said based on the From: line, that is the personalities paradigm which is flawed. Based on which mail account you're in. To use your logic why would I want my work mail to touch my SMTP server when my client is perfectly capable of connecting the work server and sending mail through it. Or, more to the point, the reverse. Why should I put personal mail through the work server when my client can contact my home server and have the mail go out from there. Ah, that brings up something you didn't think about, did it? Pushing home mail through work creates legal problems, doesn't it? Yes, it does, as some businesses have problems with non-work related mail travelling through their servers. Esp. at my work where there are corporate and public servers to choose from. I have to have control, at the mail account level, as described above, which SMTP server to it for a variety of legal and security reasons. Yes, your machine is technically capable of handling the mail but is it legally proper or the proper choice for security? It may be, for you. It often is not for me which is why stuffing all mail under a single mail account and splitting out on personalities (Eudora/Lookout! term and basically what mutt does) is not an option. Having separate local accounts for remote mailboxes is also absurd since that /should/ be handled internally to the client. IE, why should I create 10 local accounts and have to log in 10 times when it absolutely is not needed? > > Oh jeez. C'mon, Brian. You've said you've been following me on this > > issue for three years and you are now stating that I have not once in that > > time ever described what was needed and why the current system fails? Get > > real! I have drawn charts showing problems, I have described it in > > detail, and if you looked at the bloody picture you'd understand what I > > was getting at because it is evident in that picture! Stop being > > willfully ignorant! > You haven't. We went around in circles on lusenet before about this. Uhm, I /h
Re: WOOHOO - the Potato is installed!
John Griffiths wrote: > > At 07:56 PM 8/22/2000 -0600, montefin wrote: > >ATTN: John Griffiths, > > > >You must report to Penn State immediately. > > > >By Penn State we do not mean Penn State, the honorable state university. > >We mean the Pennsylvania State Penitentiary. > > > >There, you must immediately identify yourself as an auto-incarcerant, > >guilty of Copyright Obfuscation, and serve five-to-ten years of your > >miserable life making newly rich Internet Moguls' vanity license plates. > > > >John, if I were you, when you knock at the prison door, wear nothing but > >a smile. But, John, not too big a smile. Ok? > > > >See you in five-to-ten years, > > > >montefin > > I would like to take this opportunity to apologize for, in my excitement, > forgetting to turn off the default signature my employer demands i have on my > mail. > > I do actually agree with the points joey made. > > whether new and stupid (as in me) debian users benefit from public > bollockings on this sort of matter i do not know. > > i suppose it will be a while before i make that mistake again. > > John > > -- Never mind the bollocks, welcome to Potato. I'm still fighting my way thru my former-slink-now-potato-mess... Good Luck Vitux -- "I'm not a crook" Richard Nixon Debian GNU/Linux Micro$loth-free Zone
Printer Lexmark optra E310
Hello, I have been reading a lot of messages about printers lately. I am wondering what filter I should use for a Lexmark optra E310 printer. This is a postscript printer with 1 Mb of memory (I think). Greetings, Stefan Goeman
Re: Linux Mail Client
On Wed, Aug 23, 2000 at 12:38:41AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > This list does matter. Every time someone says, "I want something like > this" you know what the immediate knee-jerk reaction is? "You don't want > that. What you want to do is this." That is utter bullshit and you know it. /me is trying to stay out of the fray but can't resist this bait. I have to disagree. Strongly. There area great many things that people suggest as "features" or "why doesn't it work this way", which have been tried, and either don't work, produce security holes, or introduce (generally unnecessary) complexity into the system. Not every request, but a great many of them. Let's face it, GNU/Linux *is* riding on 30 years of Unix design, and a lot of different ideas *have* been tried. Some succeed, many fail. This is a mature system. Peturbe it gently. One of my sayings in regards another software product which features a "users ballot" is "beware of what others ask for, you may get it". Greeting suggestions with skepticism is IMO very healthy. It forces the person proposing the idea to think about what they're asking for and why they want to do something a particular way. It makes them look at existing tools and measure their true fit to the task. With sufficient bull-headedness, truely good (and even a few bad) ideas will rise beyond the "I want something like this" stage, and emerge as...Perl, exim, mutt, fetchmail, vim, wget, screen, VNC to name a few tools I find myself thankful for daily. OTHOH, violent negativism is bad. IMO the list has been more than tolerant of your wants, Steve, but my own patience is waning. -- Karsten M. Self http://www.netcom.com/~kmself Evangelist, Opensales, Inc.http://www.opensales.org What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? Debian GNU/Linux rocks! http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/K5: http://www.kuro5hin.org GPG fingerprint: F932 8B25 5FDD 2528 D595 DC61 3847 889F 55F2 B9B0 pgprLpkkcepku.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Exploring the possibilities of cron
On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 07:21:01PM -0500, Brent Harding wrote: > How would cron do something such as, emailing a file once and awhile, > make > the file empty, and wait until the next run, but not mail anything if it's > empty. I've never done much with emailing besides piping echo to mail, but > it's limited to one line. If you're looking for cron to do all of this, you're probably expecting too much. However, having cron launch a script hourly to test the file condition and perform an action is eminantly doable. This is essentially what a scheduled mail daemon does. > Supposing every hour I want it to email me all the users that my friend > requested to be created with a requser script. The script, with echo and > read commands would give the user info to a file, when echoed and appended, > but when the cat filename | mail root won't tell me what the mail is for, > just a bunch of users and passwords. Wonder if cron could be used to just > create the users, so I don't need my friend to have root access. I don't > trust him with it as he doesn't know a real lot about linux, but he may > want email addresses custom to what he chooses, or recreating stuff. For this purpose, you might want to look at 'sudo'. The man pages include examples of how to set up an account with privileges to create new userIDs. This is essentially what you're giving your friend rights to do via your cron script, though quite likely the cron job would entail greater security risks unless you plan to check for specific conditions of file ownership, read/write permissions, etc. You've authorized your friend to create user accounts but thrown in an arbitrary delay (the periodicity of the cron job) into the process. Better to use sudo, monitor your friend's activities while limiting his rootly powers, and be secure about it to boot. ...in an aside to Steve Lamb, this is an example of suggesting to a user that they may not actually want to know how to do what it is that they are asking for, but find out the proper tools for the job. -- Karsten M. Self http://www.netcom.com/~kmself Evangelist, Opensales, Inc.http://www.opensales.org What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? Debian GNU/Linux rocks! http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/K5: http://www.kuro5hin.org GPG fingerprint: F932 8B25 5FDD 2528 D595 DC61 3847 889F 55F2 B9B0 pgpv4MsuGBhnv.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Exploring the possibilities of cron
On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 09:37:05PM -0400, Mike Werner wrote: > Brent Harding wrote: > > How would cron do something such as, emailing a file once and awhile, > > make > > the file empty, and wait until the next run, but not mail anything if it's > > empty. I've never done much with emailing besides piping echo to mail, but > > it's limited to one line. > > What I would do is put all of the work into a shell script, and have cron > call the shell script. Just off the top of my head, something like: > > #!/bin/sh > if [ -s /path/to/file ] > mail -s Here's_the_file [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /path/to/file > rm -f /path/to/file > touch /path/to/file > fi Mike: how are you planning on authenticating that the user actually created the file, that its permissions don't allow modification by others, and that there is nothing in the file which might cause a cron-initiated adduser script to crash, fail, overflow, or otherwise do Bad Things®? -- Karsten M. Self http://www.netcom.com/~kmself Evangelist, Opensales, Inc.http://www.opensales.org What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? Debian GNU/Linux rocks! http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/K5: http://www.kuro5hin.org GPG fingerprint: F932 8B25 5FDD 2528 D595 DC61 3847 889F 55F2 B9B0 pgpSUZRLhQhMZ.pgp Description: PGP signature
color in Emacs
Hello, Putting something like this emacs*background:white emacs*foreground:black in the .Xdefault file is nice. But, does there exist a list of colors to choose from. For example, as background I used grey but I find it still to dark. Is there a way to get it brighter (without using background:white)? Greetings, Stefan Goeman.
Re: Linux Mail Client (was: Re: Web browsers for Linux (was: Re: Netscape Bus Error))
On Wed, Aug 23, 2000 at 09:21:58AM +0930, John Pearson wrote: > Well, that certainly indicates one reason why I'm having difficulty coming > to grips with your requirement; we have a problem over terminology. Actually, we don't. The problem is that people aren't willing to look past the terminology. For instance, your examples below have a flaw in them. > I differentiate between MUAs, MDAs, and MTAs; examples are: > MUA: mutt > MDA: procmail > MTA: exim MTA: Exim. Exim does not need an MDA as it fills that role as well. So it could be something like this: MUA: mutt MDA/MTA: exim > Obviously, you mean something different to MUA to me (and, perhaps, others); > what, in your view is an MUA if not a mail client? No, I mean exactly what an MUA says it is. Mutt is an MUA but, to me, it is not a mail client. A mail client is able to transfer and manipulate the required data without need of other programs. A constant example I give, which is flawed as all are, is web browsing. A web browser is, for the most part, an HTTP client. We have the HTTP server and the HTTP client talking to one another directly. We don't have an HTTP transport agent to get the data to the HTTP user agent. Again, example, it is flawed, but it gets the basic point across. A mail client does most, if not all, of the tasks defined as an MUA and most, of not all, of the tasks of an MDA with some minor tasks relegated to an MTA. Let me try to explain. MUA: Program to manipulate the mail databases, filter through them, display them and perform functions upon them as well as limited support functions to help in that main task. IE, reading, replying, deleting, moving messages around are all the main task and the address book, for example, would be a support function. Editing text, spell checking, contact lists, etc are all separate applications and, to me, are not part of the MUA. Do you feel this adiquately describes the majority of functions of mutt? MDA: Program to deliver mail to the local system in accordance with any directives given. This includes any file locking specific to the file system, filtering that is requested from the user(s) as well as system administrator(s) and so on. Exim's MDA portion and procmail? MTA: Program to deliver mail to external sources as well as accept mail from external sources for later redistribution to either the local system or another, external system. Exim's MTA section, Sendmail? Now, let's look at what the mail clients, not MUAs, do. We'll keep it to a single mail account for simplicity and to set aside the whole issue of how to handle multiple mail accounts. A mail account, as I described to Brian earlier, is a collection of folders, filters and settings that are independant of other mail accounts. A mail client attaches to a remote server and pulls the mail down. This is, technicaly, MTA. Once it has the mail it applies a series of filters to it (MDA) and stores it in local folders (MDA). There it allows the user to read, reply to, move and delete those messages (MUA) as well as other support functions (MUA). When they send a message out the client once again connects to a remote server and hands off the mail for delivery (MTA). Now, adding multiple mail accounts back in I feel that a mail client should be able to do that for each mail account with each having its own set of incoming and outgoing servers, filters, folders, settings and so on. This means a single instance keeps the sent mail separate, uses different SMTP servers dependant on mail account (which is independant of mail addresses and local accounts), to the point where a mail account can and should be able to be moved from one machine or local account (local = user, to clarify) without problem. That is different than the "personalities" paradigm which does not separate out sent mail, use separate SMTP servers and otherwise does not keep the incoming mail separate as the default. Anyway, getting back to the question(s) about MUA/MDA/MTA and mail client. I feel there is a difference between the MUA and a mail client. I do not see a problem with a mail client incorporating portions of other roles because they logically fit together in certain circumstances. The MUA/MDA/MTA divisions were made in the day when there were multiple (dozens to thousands) of people on a single machine and a single mail account as associated with a single local user account. I'm going to assume that anyone still interested in this thread knows why that is the case. If not there is good reading in the bat book on the subject. However, that is not the only case today. I feel that the MTA/MDA/MUA division is overkill for a single person on a single box. There is no need to set up an MTA in that case. It will be running in smarthost mode forwarding all mail to another SMTP server to do the actual delivery. I am certainly not advocating a complete MTA be programm
screensaver not working in gnome/enlightenment
Hi, i'm running off a new install of Potato, with GNOME and E all happily working. However, their is one problem. The various utilities in all the GNOME menus for screensavers don't work. In other words, i can't get the screensaver to kick in at all after it's initial idle time (or for that matter, if i simply tell it to lock immediately). I try running `xscreensaver &` and all i get is an error message: Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server xscreensaver: Can't open display: :0 xscreensaver: initial effective uid/gid was root/shadow (0/42) xscreensaver: running as nobody/nogroup (65534/65534) Also, it's very important to mention that this *only* happens as root, other regular accounts work fine. Anyway, i would just like to find a solution to have a screensaver for root. Thanks, dave
Mutt: Mail-Follow-Up header incorrect
On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 05:25:36PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote: > BTW your Mail-Follow-Up header is broken, mutt ends up trying to send > mail to user `karston' which does not exist on my system obviously. Well, first off, my mailer *does* know how to spell my name correctly... Still, my external email address is kmself@ix.netcom.com, not "karsten". Anyone know how I can supply the correct value using Mutt? Docs tell me how to toggle *generating* the header, but no guidance on setting the correct value. Or should I use a rewriting rule in exim? Thanks. -- Karsten M. Self http://www.netcom.com/~kmself Evangelist, Opensales, Inc.http://www.opensales.org What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? Debian GNU/Linux rocks! http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/K5: http://www.kuro5hin.org GPG fingerprint: F932 8B25 5FDD 2528 D595 DC61 3847 889F 55F2 B9B0 pgpwC3jg2yWXX.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Potato keeps waking up?!
David Vrabel wrote: > > On 22 Aug 2000, Vitux wrote: > > > What puzzles me most is: I just can't figure out what keeps spinning > > the disk?! > > I can't find any ref's to it in the logs or in cron-whatever... > > If necessary I could post some of my log-files?! > > atime updates I'd guess. The time that files were last accesses (read) is > stored in the filesystem. Hence the disk access when these are written. > > Consult the mount (?) man page for details on the noatime option. What I'm trying to understand is: what's writing files, when the machine is "idle"?! (I am beginning to grasp the fact that Linux is never really idle; there's always some cron-stuff going on...) > > > BTW: How do you empty logs? Can you just delete'em? > > Aren't all the logs rotated by daily/weekly cron jobs? There are by > default in Debian. But yes, you can just delete them. > > David Vrabel Nope, not all the logs. ppp-logs are, but not syslog, f.ex. Oh well, someone indicated that I had already done a pretty good job by reducing wake-ups to three times pr hour, so maybe I should leave it. Now if I could only get my nic working... Still Learning after 1½ year! Thanks Vitux -- "I'm not a crook" Richard Nixon Debian GNU/Linux Micro$loth-free Zone
Re: Utility for multiple floppies
On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 06:50:41PM -0700, Eric G . Miller wrote: > On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 05:25:36PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote: > > are gnu tar, gzip and friends available for windows > > wastelands^Wenvironments? > > > > Yep, well I don't know about tar, but cpio, gzip and several others are > available. For NT there's the NT Resources Kit (free) which has this > stuff. I don't know 'bout the other MS product lines. Toolkits: Cygwin (Cygnus Solutions, now part of RedHat). UWIN (AT&T: http://www.research.att.com/sw/tools/uwin/) MKS (Mortin Kerns Systems) Unix Services for Windows (Microsoft -- formerly Interix[1]) -- Karsten M. Self http://www.netcom.com/~kmself Evangelist, Opensales, Inc.http://www.opensales.org What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? Debian GNU/Linux rocks! http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/K5: http://www.kuro5hin.org GPG fingerprint: F932 8B25 5FDD 2528 D595 DC61 3847 889F 55F2 B9B0 [1] That is, Unix Services for Windows was formerly known as Interix, not Microsoft, which was formerly, and currently, known asNaw, that would be too easy. pgpRi1uWtckNJ.pgp Description: PGP signature
old versions
Where can I find older versions of packages that did not make it into stable? I installed unstable (2.2) on a box a way back before it was frozen, and toyed with it for a while, then left it aside until now. I think I removed most of /usr/share and some other locations (it has only a 100meg harddrive so I was looking to trim it down some). But this has trashed gpm, cpio and a few other non-essential progs. I cannot uninstall them dpkg says: Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should reinstall it before attempting a removal. But the package has been updated to a new version, and I cannot install it. I have tried the force option and can't get it to remove it. Maybe it is just my syntax: dpkg -r gpm --force-remove-reinstreq other slightly differt wordings get the same result. If I dig through the deb file, and figure out what files it would install and touch these files on the system will dpkg think everything is fine and remove them? Ie does dpkg checksum or verify the package's files in any way? Thanks. Gregg Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: color in Emacs
Try a program like gcolorsel. Very handy. Also remember that if you want the resources to be read automatically when you login Debian uses .Xresources rather then .Xdefaults. At least this is the way /etx/X11/Xsession seems setup to behave. Tal On Wed, 23 Aug 2000 10:42:38 +0200, Goeman Stefan said: : Hello, : : Putting something like this : : emacs*background:white : emacs*foreground:black : : in the .Xdefault file is nice. : : But, does there exist a list of colors to choose from. : For example, as background I used grey but I find it still to dark. : Is there a way to get it brighter (without using background:white)? : : Greetings, : : Stefan Goeman. : : : -- : Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null : : -- | Tal Danzig | Join #libranet on the | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | openprojects IRC network | | http://www.libranet.com| Tal Danzig | | The TOP Desktop! | [EMAIL PROTECTED]|
Re: Linux Mail Client
On Wed, Aug 23, 2000 at 01:29:32AM -0700, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: > There area great many things that people suggest as "features" or "why > doesn't it work this way", which have been tried, and either don't work, > produce security holes, or introduce (generally unnecessary) complexity > into the system. I agree. I personally feel that a mail client should not have an editor, a spell checker and a contact list in it like most of the Windows clients do. Trust me, I personally don't like how either side handles the whole mail issue. I feel that Windows incorporates too much and isn't powerful enough on the core features where Unix doesn't incorporate enough and focuses too much on the power of the minute details. > This is a mature system. Peturbe it gently. Right. As you said, it is sitting on 30 years of unix experience. However, the world has evolved around unix. The unix model of mail, MTA/MUA/MDA was designed in a time when people weren't using single machines for mail. For that it works well. However, when the world shifted from multiple people on a single box to a single person on a single box one does have to question the mature system designed to handle something completely different. > One of my sayings in regards another software product which features a > "users ballot" is "beware of what others ask for, you may get it". Again, I agree. That is why I am careful about what I propose and try to explain why those suggestions are logical in the situation given. It is also why I am careful to try to state that the currrent system does work in other situations, most often situations they were designed for. > Greeting suggestions with skepticism is IMO very healthy. Yes, skepticism is healthy. Dismissal is not. I haven't seen a whole lot of skepticism and entirely too much dismissal. > the "I want something like this" stage, and emerge as...Perl, exim, > mutt, fetchmail, vim, wget, screen, VNC to name a few tools I find > myself thankful for daily. PMMail, The Bat! are on mine for reasons given. > OTHOH, violent negativism is bad. IMO the list has been more than > tolerant of your wants, Steve, but my own patience is waning. Then it is waning for the people who are constantly negative and dismissing this very simple idea and concept out of hand because they have apparently not seen it in action, haven't felt a need to have it in action, and feel that their system is suitable in all situations when to a great many people it clearly is not. Being robust is a good thing. The MTA/MDA/MUA model is very robust. However, sometimes excessive robustness isn't needed. It is in those situations where the mail client as I just described to John is better suited for the task at hand than the entire MTA/MDA/MUA model. To put an analogy to that there is nothing on the roads that can beat the hauling capacity of a truck. Not a pickup, a true "18-wheeler" (even though some have more or less than 18) tractor/trailer, long-haul truck. It can move 20 tons of stuff in a ~10' x ~8' x ~47' container (well, one of the sizes are about that). However, I don't think there is a person here who would recommend that every family own, maintain and operate sensibly a long-haul truck to run down to the market once a week for groceries when even a sports car with a truck that can hold 8 standard sized paper grocery bags will get the job done. However, that is what I see time and time again from the unix community on the issue of mail. "Oh, you want to transport mail (groceries)? Well, you need to get fetchmail, exim, sometimes procmail and mutt, doo all of this and, there, it works (tractor/trailer)." The model is more than most people need. That is why I say some of the functions of the MDA and MTA, along with the functions of the MUA, become a mail client (see message to John for details). No, it doesn't do everything the full model does, but it doesn't /have/ to and the people should have to own, maintain and operate sensibly the full model when it isn't needed. Why other cannot accept that problem is beyond me. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+-
Re: Linux Mail Client (was: Re: Web browsers for Linux (was: Re: Netscape Bus Error))
On Wed, Aug 23, 2000 at 01:04:31AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > On Wed, Aug 23, 2000 at 12:34:17AM -0700, brian moore wrote: > > And I fail to see how a single fetchmail process reading from n servers, > > with m mailboxes on each, and delivering each remote mailbox to some > > number greater than m boxes on your machine is anything but what you > > asked for. > > I fail to see that happening in any manner I found acceptable. You keep > forgetting the MUA aspect where there is no concept of separate accounts. Huh? You're the one that keeps bringing up 'accounts'. I keep asking what the concept of an 'account' has to do with mailboxes. Again, Steve, I have accounts on machines with no mailboxes. I have mailboxes on machines with no accounts. I have MULTIPLE mailboxes on machines with a single account. You do NOT read from a pop3 'account', you read from a pop3 MAILBOX. > > > Exim /IS/ an MDA. It doesn't come with an MDA, it fills that role. > > > No. Exim is an MTA. > > *sigh* Are you really that stupid, Brian? I mean, really? Hell, I'm smart enough to a) spot private replies and reply to them privately. *Hint* my last mail to you was private. And b) I'm smart enough to only send each mail once, instead of mailing it once as a private reply and then sending the exact same thing to a list. Heck, I'm even smart enough to NOT cc people on list mail unless they've requested it. Howzabout you Steve? > If you wish to refute this claim, please provide your reasonings. I'm > eager to understand why you think it doesn't fill the MDA role. Filtering has NOTHING to do with "is this an MTA". I have body filters in sendmail. I may play with them in postfix Does that make sendmail an MDA? Or postfix? No. Both DO come with MDA's though (mail.local or just plain local, respectively). So what makes an MDA an MDA? Hint it's the D. Part of the reason none of what you're saying makes sense is because you insist on redefining terms to suit your own ends. What seperates 'cat' from an MDA? cat doesn't know about dotlocks or flock() or any of the other tricks expected of an MDA. That's it. > > Again. the terms are loaded. I have -no- accounts. (Accounts are for, > > well, accounting, and I don't pay for them.) I have an infinite number > > of email addresses, of which maybe a dozen or two I use regularly. > > Don't play ignorant with me. This is getting tiring. Fine, if accounts > are for accounting and you pay for all accounts then why do you have a root > accounts on your box? And a nobody account. Oh, I guess that means you /ARE/ > familiar with the term accounts separate of the billing processes of a > business. And seperate from the concept of mailboxes. Why does root not have a mailbox? Nor nobody? In fact, of course, the reason for a seperate root account IS for accounting. Go look up words like 'accountability'. > Fine. A mail account, to me, is a separate set of folders, filters, and > settings indpenedant of any other mail account. In fact, I have stated that > several times. I fail to see how it is a loaded term when I have explained it > numerous times. Because 'settings' is a client issue. Filters can be applied at many stages (some long before the MDA even gets a chance to see it). Heck, my best filters are well out of the range of any mail client unless it contains a web browser, since their configuration is on a web page. > > 'proper'? Um, why is my SMTP server not proper? Should I change smtp > > servers based on 'From:'? Goodness, that would be silly -- why on earth > > would I want to, when this machine is quite capable of handling mail > > itself. > > Because the assumption is that your machine can handle mail at all. It > should not be a requirement to set up a local SMTP server to handle mail on a > workstation. The MTA would be using a smart host setup. IE, blidnly > forwarding all mail to another SMTP server. Well, why not have the client > send to that server. That /is/ why it is client/server and why most clients > can connect to multiple servers. Because this 'workstation' also happens to be a server? Why forward it to another machine? (Of course, I -could- if I wanted to, but that would be silly.) > Uhm, I /have/. I distictly remember posting to usenet ASCII graphs of the > differences to COLM. Problem is Deja is no longer keeping comprehensive > archives and it is no longer there. [*] Score: - %Expires: Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> %Score created by slrn on Wed Jul 15 10:39:39 1998 An honored spot. > > I highly doubt that everyone is as stupid as you think they are. > > Given that you're claiming to have followed my discussions on this topic > across different venues and say that I haven't done what I know I have I'm > more likely to believe people are stupid than you might think. Esp. when > people come in at the middle and propose something I have shot down five ti
Re: tetex slink -> potato
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (paul tanner) writes:
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> After the upgrade I can't use the extra
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> copy of my old slink installation I
> found the ``local'' link in texmf/ and
> in /usr/share/texmf I added:
> ln -s /usr/local/share/texmf local
> and moved my local stuff to:
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> and did the rehash in texconfig.
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> Now my local files are listed in ls-R
> but TeX don't find them when working on
> a doc containing: \input [file] .
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> I'm testing with document sources that
> worked OK in my old slink version.
> Where have I gone wrong?
You have to change texmf.cnf to make tetex use your local files:
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Re: net install of staroffice 5.2
On 23, aug, 2000 at 09:02:18 +0200, marco frattola wrote: > hi all, > this is not debian specific, but maybe somebody can help me. i'm trying to > install staroffice 5.2 using > the 'net' switch, so every user doesn't need to install his/her own copy of > staroffice. > i already did it successfully with so 5.1, but i'm unable to do that with > 5.2. sun gives you a whole .bin > file. by executing that file you start installation .. but there's no way of > passing the /net switch. without > switch, it installs the one-user only. reading the docs from sun doesn't > help much .. they refer to a setup > script, which doesn't exist before running the .bin file, and that doesn't > do anything after: it just gives you > option to repair/uninstall/modify, but not to reinstall. so if anybody knows > if there's anything i can try .. Have you tried passing the /net switch to the *.bin file when you execute it? I seem to remember that's how I did it when I tried StarOffice (I've removed it as I don't really need it ...). HTH Morten -- UNIX, reach out and grep someone!
Re: Linux Mail Client (was: Re: Web browsers for Linux (was: Re: Netscape Bus Error))
On Wed, Aug 23, 2000 at 02:05:35AM -0700, brian moore wrote: > You're the one that keeps bringing up 'accounts'. I keep asking what the > concept of an 'account' has to do with mailboxes. Mail account. > Again, Steve, I have accounts on machines with no mailboxes. I have > mailboxes on machines with no accounts. I have MULTIPLE mailboxes on > machines with a single account. > You do NOT read from a pop3 'account', you read from a pop3 MAILBOX. And? A mail account can have sources from multuple "mailboxes" and a user account can have multiple mail accounts. > Hell, I'm smart enough to a) spot private replies and reply to them > privately. *Hint* my last mail to you was private. Hint, I figured it would have been to the list if I hadn't fat fingered my reply. > And b) I'm smart enough to only send each mail once, instead of mailing > it once as a private reply and then sending the exact same thing to a > list. Well, considering I have on every other message, one might reasonable surmise it was a mistake. > Heck, I'm even smart enough to NOT cc people on list mail unless they've > requested it. > Howzabout you Steve? Sorry, I'm not a machine like you that never, ever, EVER makes a mistake. > What seperates 'cat' from an MDA? cat doesn't know about dotlocks or > flock() or any of the other tricks expected of an MDA. That's it. Interesting all, really. None of which states that Exim doesn't fill the MDA role. I still await your points addressing that. > In fact, of course, the reason for a seperate root account IS for > accounting. Go look up words like 'accountability'. Oh, gee, and you were talking about my loaded words. What do most people think of when you say accounting? Especially in or near a sentence with "pay". > Because this 'workstation' also happens to be a server? Why forward it > to another machine? Just because you don't have a reason and find it silly does not mean there isn't a reason for it or that other people don't have those needs. > (Of course, I -could- if I wanted to, but that would be silly.) Maybe in your situation. Silly in all situations? > [*] > Score: - > %Expires: > Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > %Score created by slrn on Wed Jul 15 10:39:39 1998 > An honored spot. Really? Wonder if you have [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] as well. > Yes, I should remember the words of WSB: "Never proffer sympathy to the > mentally ill, for theirs is a bottomless pit." (From "Words of Advice to > Young People"). You know, people who stoutly refuse that there is a problem when there so clearly is are often considered mentally ill. There is a problem in this scheme, Brian, no matter what your never-make-a-mistake self might think. I'll take your advice and consider you mentally ill from now on and act accordingly. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+-
Re: Potato vs Realtek8029PCI NIC
Troy Telford wrote: > > Actually, I have no problems with a realtek 8029 card; however, I always > re-compile the > kernel after I get the thing on; that usually gets rid of the unresolved > symbols > problem... In fact, with all the kernel module(s) I've used, re-compiling > the kernel > from scratch (including the modules) typically removes all unresolved symbols > problems. > So, you might want to try that... As I have experienced the same thing, this was the first thing I did: d'l latest kernel source for 2.2.16, compile kernel, modules and install the modules, all according to README in the kernel docs. System boots & runs just fine, the modules are all there (8390, bsd_comp, ne2k-pci, ppp-deflate). Kmod seems to be working; I made dos-fs as a module, which gets inserted when I mount a dos-disk. > > As for myself, I typically compile in ne2k-pci into the kernel, rather than > as a module; > but I must admit I've never had any trouble with it as a module, either. > > Hope I can be helpful... as I have been using a RealTek 8029-based PCI > network card for > around 2 years now, with all kinds of kernel versons (yours included, no > doubt), I'll be > glad to help in any way I can... > > Troy > > > so..try > > > > insmod 8390 > > insmod ne2k-pci > > > > should work :) > > > > nate > > > > Bob Nielsen wrote: > > > > > > For what it's worth, I am running one of these cards with the driver > > > compiled into 2.2.16, rather than as a module. > > > > > > Here's a snippet from dmesg: > > > > > > ne2k-pci.c:vpre-1.00e 5/27/99 D. Becker/P. Gortmaker > > > http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux/drivers/ne2k-pci.html > > > ne2k-pci.c: PCI NE2000 clone 'RealTek RTL-8029' at I/O 0xe800, IRQ 10. > > > eth0: RealTek RTL-8029 found at 0xe800, IRQ 10, 52:54:00:E6:65:FB. Nothing even remotely like this appears when booting. Check my attached bit from syslog... > > > > > > Bob The Realtek nic is IRQ 9 in the BIOS setup; I just checked. Thanks! Regards Vitux -- "I'm not a crook" Richard Nixon Debian GNU/Linux Micro$loth-free ZoneAug 23 10:37:33 WichmannRacing syslogd 1.3-3#33: restart. Aug 23 10:37:33 WichmannRacing kernel: klogd 1.3-3#33, log source = /proc/kmsg started. Aug 23 10:37:33 WichmannRacing kernel: Inspecting /System.map Aug 23 10:37:33 WichmannRacing kernel: Symbol table has incorrect version number. Aug 23 10:37:33 WichmannRacing kernel: Cannot find map file. Aug 23 10:37:33 WichmannRacing kernel: No module symbols loaded. Aug 23 10:37:33 WichmannRacing kernel: Linux version 2.2.16 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 2.95.2 2220 (Debian GNU/Linux)) #1 Tue Aug 22 18:56:53 CEST 2000 Aug 23 10:37:33 WichmannRacing kernel: Detected 349183 kHz processor. Aug 23 10:37:33 WichmannRacing kernel: Console: colour VGA+ 80x25 Aug 23 10:37:33 WichmannRacing kernel: Calibrating delay loop... 696.32 BogoMIPS Aug 23 10:37:33 WichmannRacing kernel: Memory: 128192k/131072k available (912k kernel code, 416k reserved, 1512k data, 40k init) Aug 23 10:37:33 WichmannRacing kernel: Dentry hash table entries: 16384 (order 5, 128k) Aug 23 10:37:33 WichmannRacing kernel: Buffer cache hash table entries: 131072 (order 7, 512k) Aug 23 10:37:33 WichmannRacing kernel: Page cache hash table entries: 32768 (order 5, 128k) Aug 23 10:37:33 WichmannRacing kernel: CPU: Intel Pentium II (Deschutes) stepping 01 Aug 23 10:37:33 WichmannRacing kernel: Checking 386/387 coupling... OK, FPU using exception 16 error reporting. Aug 23 10:37:33 WichmannRacing kernel: Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK. Aug 23 10:37:33 WichmannRacing kernel: POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX Aug 23 10:37:33 WichmannRacing kernel: PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xed728 Aug 23 10:37:33 WichmannRacing kernel: PCI: Using configuration type 1 Aug 23 10:37:33 WichmannRacing kernel: PCI: Probing PCI hardware Aug 23 10:37:33 WichmannRacing kernel: PCI: Assigning I/O space 5800-583f to device 00:70 Aug 23 10:37:33 WichmannRacing kernel: PCI: Assigning I/O space 5840-584f to device 00:70 Aug 23 10:37:33 WichmannRacing kernel: PCI: Assigning I/O space 5850-585f to device 00:70 Aug 23 10:37:33 WichmannRacing kernel: PCI: Assigning I/O space 5860-5863 to device 00:70 Aug 23 10:37:33 WichmannRacing kernel: PCI: Assigning I/O space 5864-5867 to device 00:70 Aug 23 10:37:33 WichmannRacing kernel: PCI: Enabling I/O for device 00:70 Aug 23 10:37:33 WichmannRacing kernel: PCI: Assigning I/O space 5880-589f to device 00:a2 Aug 23 10:37:33 WichmannRacing kernel: PCI: Enabling I/O for device 00:a2 Aug 23 10:37:33 WichmannRacing kernel: Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.2 Aug 23 10:37:33 WichmannRacing kernel: Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039 Aug 23 10:37:33 WichmannRacing kernel: NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0 for Linux NET4.0. Aug 23 10:37:33 WichmannRacing kernel: NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0 Aug 23 10:37:33 WichmannRacing kernel: IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP Aug 23 10:37:33 WichmannRacing kernel: TCP: Hash tables configured (ehash 1310
wrong version in version.h in the potato?
Hello! How come the file /usr/include/linux/version.h says: #define UTS_RELEASE "2.2.15"? I'm not exactly sure what UTS_RELEASE means, but... when I tried to compile the NVidia GeForce kernel driver (0.9.4), I was told that the driver was build for 2.2.15, while I was running 2.2.17 (which is default). And after I changed the version.h file to 2.2.17, everything's ok. How come? (I've installed the default potato version (from scratch)) --- .gudleiK
Re: q ad security.debian.org
Olaf Meeuwissen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 23/08/2000 (08:25) : > What about security updates for non-US? I don't know. -- Preben Randhol - Ph. D student - http://www.pvv.org/~randhol/ "Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent", Isaac Asimov
Re: net install of staroffice 5.2
hi, and thanks for your answer .. > On 23, aug, 2000 at 09:02:18 +0200, marco frattola wrote: > > hi all, > > this is not debian specific, but maybe somebody can help > me. i'm trying to > > install staroffice 5.2 using > > the 'net' switch, so every user doesn't need to install > his/her own copy of > > staroffice. > > i already did it successfully with so 5.1, but i'm unable > to do that with > > 5.2. sun gives you a whole .bin > > file. by executing that file you start installation .. but > there's no way of > > passing the /net switch. without > > switch, it installs the one-user only. reading the docs > from sun doesn't > > help much .. they refer to a setup > > script, which doesn't exist before running the .bin file, > and that doesn't > > do anything after: it just gives you > > option to repair/uninstall/modify, but not to reinstall. so > if anybody knows > > if there's anything i can try .. > > Have you tried passing the /net switch to the *.bin file when you > execute it? > > I seem to remember that's how I did it when I tried StarOffice (I've > removed it as I don't really need it ...). > i tried it .. but doesn't work. the script bails out saying that the switch is not correct. i've also tried /net and -net (since docs here and there don't agree on switch sintax) but it doesn't work. this is what i meant (but now that i re-read it i realize it wasn't clearly expressed) 'there's no way to pass the switch to the .bin file' thank you anyway Marco Frattola (Pianificazione processi) - Cubecom S.p.A. Via de Marini,1 3 piano Torre WTC 16149 GENOVA tel. 010 6591184
Re: Potato vs Realtek8029PCI NIC
More stuff: I did a # modprobe ne2k-pci and I get this: ne2k-pci..: PCI NE2000 clone 'Realtek RTL-8029* at I/O 0x20a0, IRQ 9. eth0: RealTek RTL-8029 found at 0x20a0, IRQ 9, 00:00:B4:B8:94:CC # I suppose this means that the modular driver has been installed in the kernel and detected my NIC. So far, great. Wonder why kmod won't autoload it when I do "ifconfig-yadayada up" ? BTW: What does the hex-part at the end mean? Sorry if I'm being dense here, but a lot this is very unclear in the net-howto, and I am trying to learn. This is my first lan! :-) Thanks Vitux -- "I'm not a crook" Richard Nixon Debian GNU/Linux Micro$loth-free Zone
Re: color in Emacs
On 23, aug, 2000 at 01:53:59 -0700, Tal Danzig wrote: > Try a program like gcolorsel. > Very handy. Or if you doesn't want to use GNOME; 'xcolorsel', or look at /usr/lib/X11/rgb.txt, though that's a bit harder to use. I actually like xcolorsel better than the latest Helix-GNOME gcolorsel, YMMV. You can use everything from grey0 (black) through to grey100 (white) if you want grey as background. HTH Morten -- UNIX, reach out and grep someone!
Re: installing Netscape Navigator 4.75
Brad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Do they have strong encryption yet? Yes, they have, according to www.fortify.net. Greetings, joachim
Re: Potato vs Realtek8029PCI NIC
On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 09:33:45PM +0200, Vitux wrote > Trying to build a tiny lan here... > Recompile fresh 2.2.16 with the ne2k-pci driver as module. > No signs of nic when booting, insmod ne2k-pci.o gives me "unresolved > symbols"-error, and ifconfig -yadayada gives me error to the effect > that there's no hardware to configure. > > So the question is: to nic or not to nic? > > I've determined that the kmod-bit works (all the other modules are > inserted automagically on request), and little lights are shining > from nic and hub. > > Is there any other voodoo I have to do to get the card recognised/ > installed/ configured/ whatever? > It said in a howto somewhere (I forget which, I've pored over so > many of'em lately;-), that the Realtek RTL8029 is a NE2000-clone, > and so should use the driver for same... Right?! > # modprobe ne2k-pci Ne2k-pci, like many other modules, depends on other bits that may also be built as modules. insmod alone won't work, unless the other bits are already present; modprobe handles module dependencies for you. Assuming that works, just adding ne2k-pci to /etc/modules should do the trick on a more permanent basis. John P. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mdt.net.au/~john Debian Linux admin & support:technical services
Re: postfix problem
On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 10:58:35PM -0500, Pat Mahoney wrote: > On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 08:30:47PM +0100, Mark Brown wrote: > > You'd need to find out what criteria the mail server is using to > > restrict sent mail. Generally, it should just look at the address of > > your system, but apparently it's doing more than that (which doesn't > > buy them any security, but anyway). > I know. I hate that. My old isp did the old "check your pop account to > validate your IP for 10 minutes." I can understand a non-isp doing this > (although auth exists as an smtp extension) but shouldn't an isp know what > ip numbers it owns? Things like that drive me nuts... Not always. Some ISPs don't own their own dialup pools but rent time on those of other ISPs like UUnet. If they allowed relay access to all the dialup pools it wouldn't just be their customers that could relay. They should have enough information not to need to do POP before SMTP but due to the difficulty of making things work reliably some will still use the same techniques that you'd use if you didn't have that informaiton. -- Mark Brown mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trying to avoid grumpiness) http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~broonie/ EUFShttp://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/filmsoc/ pgpuAg5xKTpje.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Potato vs Realtek8029PCI NIC
On Wed, Aug 23, 2000 at 11:53:18AM +0200, Vitux wrote
> More stuff:
> I did a
> # modprobe ne2k-pci
> and I get this:
> ne2k-pci..: PCI NE2000 clone 'Realtek RTL-8029* at I/O 0x20a0, IRQ
> 9.
> eth0: RealTek RTL-8029 found at 0x20a0, IRQ 9, 00:00:B4:B8:94:CC
> #
> I suppose this means that the modular driver has been installed in
> the kernel and detected my NIC. So far, great.
>
> Wonder why kmod won't autoload it when I do "ifconfig-yadayada up" ?
> BTW: What does the hex-part at the end mean?
>
It has no reason to associate this driver with eth0; you need to
give it a big hint as to which module to use for the interface.
Try adding
alias eth0 ne2k-pci
to /etc/modutils/aliases and running update-modules as root.
The hex string is your card's MAC, an allegedly unique
identifier that is used for packet addressing at the physical
link layer for machines on your local network. The first
few octets probably identify the card's manufacturer, the rest
are up to them.
I say allegedly unique because some early clone NICs (back
when a cheap name-brand NIC might be $300) had cloned firmware
that gave each card the same MAC, or used ranges that
had been assigned to other manufacturers; that meant if you used
bad cards, you might have to sort out which ones couldn't
share a network.
MACs are associated with IPs using ARP ("Address Resolution
Protocol"). You can monitor the MAC-to-IP translation on your
network with something like this (assuming your network is
192.168.1.0/24):
$ ping -c 2 192.168.1.255
$ /usr/sbin/arp -a
You won't see your own machine in the arp cache, because your
TCP/IP stack recognizes packets addressed to itself and doesn't
get as far as attempting ARP for local addresses.
John P.
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Sync mail with palm
Anyone's able to sync a lokal mailbox/maildir with some mail software on a palmpilot? Ideally I would like to sync to my local IMAP server, but without using a modem connection. I'm pretty new to the palm, so I hope others have had the same problem before. Michael P.S.: Please CC me on replies. -- Michael Meskes Michael@Fam-Meskes.De Go SF 49ers! Go Rhein Fire! Use Debian GNU/Linux! Use PostgreSQL!
Re: YEAH: Potato vs Realtek8029PCI NIC
John Pearson wrote:
>
> On Wed, Aug 23, 2000 at 11:53:18AM +0200, Vitux wrote
> > More stuff:
> > I did a
> > # modprobe ne2k-pci
> > and I get this:
> > ne2k-pci..: PCI NE2000 clone 'Realtek RTL-8029* at I/O 0x20a0, IRQ
> > 9.
> > eth0: RealTek RTL-8029 found at 0x20a0, IRQ 9, 00:00:B4:B8:94:CC
> > #
> > I suppose this means that the modular driver has been installed in
> > the kernel and detected my NIC. So far, great.
> >
> > Wonder why kmod won't autoload it when I do "ifconfig-yadayada up" ?
> > BTW: What does the hex-part at the end mean?
> >
>
> It has no reason to associate this driver with eth0; you need to
> give it a big hint as to which module to use for the interface.
> Try adding
>
> alias eth0 ne2k-pci
>
> to /etc/modutils/aliases and running update-modules as root.
>
> The hex string is your card's MAC, an allegedly unique
> identifier that is used for packet addressing at the physical
> link layer for machines on your local network. The first
> few octets probably identify the card's manufacturer, the rest
> are up to them.
>
> I say allegedly unique because some early clone NICs (back
> when a cheap name-brand NIC might be $300) had cloned firmware
> that gave each card the same MAC, or used ranges that
> had been assigned to other manufacturers; that meant if you used
> bad cards, you might have to sort out which ones couldn't
> share a network.
>
> MACs are associated with IPs using ARP ("Address Resolution
> Protocol"). You can monitor the MAC-to-IP translation on your
> network with something like this (assuming your network is
> 192.168.1.0/24):
>
> $ ping -c 2 192.168.1.255
> $ /usr/sbin/arp -a
>
> You won't see your own machine in the arp cache, because your
> TCP/IP stack recognizes packets addressed to itself and doesn't
> get as far as attempting ARP for local addresses.
>
> John P.
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>
> --
I did the alias-thing, and the "ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.1 netmask
255.255.255.0 up". Now I can ping myself! all packets are returned
(of course), and it seems to be working.
Big Thanks, all you guys who helped me out.
Think I'm gonna write an addendum to the howto.
Now, to configure the same nic, only this time in a windoh's
box...(yuck)
Best Regards
Vitux
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humm....out of date deb's
Sorry for posting this a 2nd time, but damned hotmail treats the debian lists as spam by default, and until I noticed that and turned off all blocking it was trashing all list traffic. If anyone replied could you try once again. I got the signup, confirmation emails, and my original post but nothing else. Another Microsoft plot for sure! Very strange. Thanks. Where can I find older versions of packages that did not make it into stable? I installed unstable (2.2) on a box way back before it was frozen, and toyed with it for a while, then left it aside until now. I think I removed most of /usr/share and some other locations (it has only a 100meg harddrive so I was looking to trim it down some). But this has trashed gpm, cpio and a few other non-essential progs. I cannot uninstall them dpkgsays: Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should reinstall it before attempting a removal. But the package has been updated to a new version, and I cannot install it. I have tried the force option and can't get it to remove it. Maybe it is just my syntax: dpkg -r gpm --force-remove-reinstreq other slightly different wordings get the same result. If I dig through the deb file, and figure out what files it would install and touch these files on the system will dpkg think everything is fine and remove them? Ie does dpkg checksum or verify the package's files in any way? Thanks. Gregg Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: Sync mail with palm
> Anyone's able to sync a lokal mailbox/maildir with some mail software on a > palmpilot? Ideally I would like to sync to my local IMAP server, but without > using a modem connection. I've written a small coldsync conduit that sort of does what you want. It will grab a single folder from an IMAP server and dump it to the Palm inbox. It doesn't quite have everything I want in it yet, but it wouldn't be be hard to add things like two-way syncing, outbox processing, etc. It's available at http://nauseum.org/palm/conduits/imap-inbox . Regards, Rob. pgpHt9mWVjOKI.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Linux Mail Client (was: Re: Web browsers for Linux (was: Re: Netscape Bus Error))
Steve Lamb wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 12:02:00PM -0500, Mark Schiltz wrote: > > > > After hashing through all your comments, I believe I know what you want. > > > > An email client that has a folder for [EMAIL PROTECTED] & [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > etc. (but dosn't call it a folder) with sub-folders for inbox,outbox,etc. > > (its > > ok to call these folders) for each of the above non-folders. Does that about > > sum it up? > > Yes, completely separate mail accounts. That is exactly it. My apologies > if I was too vague in my descriptions. If that's the case, how far is Netscape Communicator from doing what you want (using IMAP)? Have as many IMAP accounts as you want (Netscape doesn't seem to consider them folders), plus a folder structure for each, distinct Inboxes and Trash, plus a local folder structure in case you want that.
Exim Error: Sender Domain must Exist
Hi: I am using Debian Potato from home and connect by modem to my university network using exim. The connection uses DHCP. My machine is named sebastian. I can collect, using fetchmail, my mail coming to the university post office server, but when I send mail to the university or outside, I get the error message; Sender domain must exist. My machine is interpreted as [EMAIL PROTECTED] which is clearly not recognized as an legitimate machine. I guess it recognizes the IP address given to me by the DHCP server, but how do I configure exim to look after this? Thanks in advance. Sebastian Canagaratna Department of Chemistry Ohio Northern University Ada, OH 45810
Re: net install of staroffice 5.2
On Wed, Aug 23, 2000 at 09:02:18AM +0200, marco frattola wrote: > hi all, _SNIP_ I forget what I actually did to get a net install but I think that the option was offered during the install process. Just a thought- Sun has a pdf file of the all the install details on their web site. -- russ
Re: Kernel parameter (hisax) lets kernel hang
On Wed, Aug 23, 2000 at 12:12:25AM +0200, Matthias Jordan wrote: > Hi, folks. > > I have a self-compiled kernel (2.2.15 or 2.2.16 doesn´t matter) with > HiSax support for Teles-S0-16 ISDN cards enabled. When I call the > kernel from LILO with the parameter "hisax=1,2,11,0xd,0xf80" > the kernel hangs immediately after uncompressing the kernel > image. The only chance to boot the kernel is to patch > drivers/isdn/hisax/config.c and code the above parameters into the > defaults. Is there anything I can do to bypass this ugly patching > and use LILO to do the same thing? I´d love to get a hint. Compile Hisax as a module and use modconf to set the parameters. Works fine for me. -ff -- Florian Friesdorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> OpenPGP key available on public key servers --> Save the future of Open Source <-- -> Online-Petition against Software Patents <- --> http://petition.eurolinux.org <--- pgpzOUhnGVG5R.pgp Description: PGP signature
FindUtil 4.1-40.diff
Hi, I want to install the diff file on a Solaris machine. How can I patched Findutil.4.1 with FindUtil 4.1-40.diff
Re: color in Emacs
try xcolorsel On Wed, Aug 23, 2000 at 10:42:38AM +0200, Goeman Stefan wrote: > Hello, > > Putting something like this > > emacs*background:white > emacs*foreground:black > > in the .Xdefault file is nice. > > But, does there exist a list of colors to choose from. > For example, as background I used grey but I find it still to dark. > Is there a way to get it brighter (without using background:white)? > > Greetings, > > Stefan Goeman. > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null > -- "As a general rule, if you have trouble with the binary system, then probably it is because you do not really understand the decimal system ..." R.W. Hamming
Re: trouble with fetchmail via exim
On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 07:21:37PM +0200, Andreas Hetzmannseder wrote: > So I reconfigured exim. Now it says: > The following domain(s) will be recognized as referring to this > system: woof, netway.at > with 'netway.at' being the second part of my e-mail address. The problem > remains. Did I make a stupid entry? Is there something else missing? Maybe. I had this kind of problem before, I am not an exim adept, but by putting my domain name "gmx.net" (which is some sort of freemail service like Hotmail in Europe) in, Exim started trying to deliver mails to other GMX users ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) locally, which obviously ended in "Recipient unknown" or whatever. Don't know if this is applyable here, just pointing out a potential problem. Actually, I don't really have a domain name for my local "network" (i.e. my desktp and my notebook) I just use hostnames. How do I set up a domain name in Debian? Michael Banck
Re: screensaver not working in gnome/enlightenment
On Wed, Aug 23, 2000 at 04:44:23AM -0400, Dave Bresson wrote: > > > Hi, i'm running off a new install of Potato, with GNOME and E all happily > working. However, their is one problem. The various utilities in all the > GNOME menus for screensavers don't work. In other words, i can't get the > screensaver to kick in at all after it's initial idle time (or for that > matter, if i simply tell it to lock immediately). I try running > `xscreensaver &` and all i get is an error message: > > > Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server > Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server > xscreensaver: Can't open display: :0 > xscreensaver: initial effective uid/gid was root/shadow (0/42) > xscreensaver: running as nobody/nogroup (65534/65534) > > > Also, it's very important to mention that this *only* happens as root, > other regular accounts work fine. Anyway, i would just like to find a > solution to have a screensaver for root. why? root should never login to X, root should never login period, you should use su instead. xscreensaver will refuse to retain root privileges and drops them immediatly before even connecting to the X server, this means it will not have access to the X cookies (~/.Xauthority) and will thus be refused permission to connect to the X server. this is a good thing. so the solution is (as BSDers say) `don't login as root use su' -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgplzRuW7H3iO.pgp Description: PGP signature
R: net install of staroffice 5.2
> -Messaggio originale- > Da: Russ Pitman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Inviato: mercoledì 23 agosto 2000 14.09 > A: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Oggetto: Re: net install of staroffice 5.2 > I forget what I actually did to get a net install but I think > that the option was offered during the install process. yeah, i think i know what you are talking about. are you sure you did it with 5.2? it was a snap with 5.1 .. but i don't see it as an option using 5.2 (i.e. running the big so52-..-.bin file) > Just a thought- Sun has a pdf file of the all the install > details on their > web site. i read it .. but it refers to the setup script. there is no setup script before you run the big .bin file. and when you have the setup, all you can do is uninstall/modify/repair. thank you anyway Marco Frattola (Pianificazione processi) - Cubecom S.p.A. Via de Marini,1 3 piano Torre WTC 16149 GENOVA tel. 010 6591184
Re: q ad security.debian.org
On Wed, Aug 23, 2000 at 11:50:50AM +0200, Preben Randhol wrote: > Olaf Meeuwissen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 23/08/2000 (08:25) : > > What about security updates for non-US? > > I don't know. deb http://security.debian.org/debian-non-US/ potato/non-US main contrib deb-src http://security.debian.org/debian-non-US/ potato/non-US main contrib add non-free to taste. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgpbpeoxqfLoK.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Win98 won't shutdown after Linux install
I had a similar problem last year, but that was when my boot sector was on Lilo, and I had virus scanners installed. MS-DO$ and MS- Window$ is rather posessive about the boot sector, and several software inclusive of NDD, scandisk and related software start giving warnings. Virus scanners scan the boot sector during shut down and may be the cause of the problem. These problems have all gone now after removal of Lilo and booting through Loadlin. The Loadlin documentation gives details about loading multiple OSs through Config.sys. Linux is definitely more polite and does not quarrel about posession of the boot sector. If Lilo booting is the problem this may help Bish On Mon, Aug 21, 2000 at 05:29:37PM -0700, Jonathan Neufeld wrote: > I'm a casual user of Linux and have some familiarity with several > distributions. I recently bought a new computer and installed Win98 > first, then paritioned the drive (using DiskDrake during a Mandrake > install) and installed several distributions, including Debian 2.2 and > Storm. Since partitioning my drive, Win98 has refused to shut down > cleanly and has given me the error "WINDOWS: A fatal exception 0E has > occurred at 0028:C00051EF in VXD VMM(01) + 41EF. The current > application will be terminated." After pressing any key, the screen > reverts to a blank green background with the mouse pointer in the > middle, but the machine is totally unresponsive. I have to do a hard > boot to get things going again. None of my Linux install are affected, > and after cleaning itself up, Win98 seems fine, too. > > I realize this is NOT a M$ support list. But I thought I might find a > kind soul here who has dealt with this problem or could refer me to the > right group. Thanks for any help offered. > > Jonathan > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null >
Re: a vueltas con las X
Hell-o! >>- ¿Como puedo desabilitar/habilitar en cualquier momento el ratón y el >> teclado? > El ratón, quizá con un 'chmod 0 /dev/mouse', aunque dado que las X andan > como root, no sé si funcionará. Desactivar el teclado lo veo más difícil. > En el contador del ciber, me aproximé a algo así con un programa que > pone una ventana negra del tamaño de la pantalla, y always-on-top, de forma > que las pulsaciones van a ese programa, que evidentemente lo ignora todo. probare esa solucion, aunque de momento parece que ya hemos encontrado una forma. En cuanto la tenga mas probada os la cuento >> ¿Hay alguna forma de evitar que al pulsar Ctrl+Alt+Borrar se tiren >> abajo las X? > Sí, muy sencilla; añadiendo "DontZap" en el XF86Config: > Section "ServerFlags" >DontZap > EndSection eso si que no lo sabia y me ha venido muy bien, gracias :)) >> En un principio estoy usando SawFish como gestor de ventanas pero >> necesitaría deshabilitar el menú que sale al pulsar con el botón derecho >> en el borde de la ventana para evitar que la gente pueda ir matando las >> aplicaciones sin ton ni son. ¿Alguna idea de como conseguirlo?. > Mírate la configuración. Si no encuentras nada, prueba en la > doc. Si no dice nada, te veo hackeando los fuentes o cambiando de > gestor de ventanas. ¿Qué tal E? :^). antes de ponerme con las fuentes he probado Enlightenment y ya lo he solucionado. Es tan sencillo como desactivar esa opción del menú en la configuración de E. La verdad es que cada día me alucina más lo superpersonalizable que es este buenisimo gestor de ventanas. Tras un tiempo con HelixGnome he vuelto a mis raices (Enlightment a pelo) ;) Nos leemos... skaven at linuxfreak.com
Re: wrong version in version.h in the potato?
On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 09:24:46AM +0200, Gudleik Rasch-Halvorsen wrote: > How come the file /usr/include/linux/version.h says: > #define UTS_RELEASE "2.2.15"? see /usr/share/kernel-package/README.headers and /usr/share/doc/libc6/README.Debian.gz ... moritz
Re: Exim and multiple domains
On Sun, Aug 20, 2000 at 07:03:17PM -0500, Will Trillich wrote
>
>
> i'm still hoping to find the king james version of the
> exim manual (the original greek is beyond me)...
>
> this flashed by a few days ago, and i thought i'd be able
> to apply it to my own situation; alas...
>
> On Thu, Aug 17, 2000 at 12:09:41AM +0930, John Pearson wrote:
> > There's more than one way to skin a cat, but here's what I've
> > done; it allows you to have an arbitrary number of virtual
> > domains with each having its own alias file, which allows
> > you to do most things including what you are looking for.
> >
> > Some of my virtual hosts are in .com.au, and some are in .com; I
> > have a file for domains with three parts (e.g., mydomain.com.au)
> > at /etc/exim/domains, and a file for domains with two parts at
> > /etc/exim/domains2. Each file contains lines like this:
> >
> > *.mydomain.com.au myfile
> > *.otherdomain.com.au otherfile
> >
> > for each domain. My setup allows me to match arbitrary
> > subdomains (e.g., mail.outgoing.mydomain.com); if you don't want
> > to match subdomains you can omit the "*." from each line, and
> > use a single file for all domains. The second field is the name
> > of an aliasfile for the domain matched by the first field.
>
> in my /etc/exim/domains file, i've got:
> *dontuthink.com will
>
> > To forward all mail for a domain to "myuser's" local mailbox,
> > the specified file need contain only the line:
> >
> > * myuser
> >
> > but it can also use any construct that Exim recognises in alias
> > files (pipes, :blackhole:, etc.).
>
> btw--does the second field denote an aliasfile name or a user
> name to redirect mail to?
>
> > In exim.conf, I set local_domains like this:
> >
> > local_domains = localhost:my.net.au:*.my.net.au:\
> > partial3-lsearch;/etc/exim/clients/domains:\
> > partial2-lsearch;/etc/exim/clients/domains2
> >
> > The "partial*-lsearch;" allows me to match arbitrary subdomains
> > (e.g., mail.outgoing.mydomain.com.au). If you don't want to match
> > subdomains you can put all virtual domains into one file and use
> > just "lsearch;"
>
> my exim.conf contains:
> local_domains = localhost:*serensoft.com:lsearch;/etc/exim/domains
> and
> virtual:
> driver = aliasfile
> domains = lsearch;/etc/exim/domains
> no_more
> file = /etc/exim/domains
> search_type = lsearch*
>
> mail to the main site (serensoft.com) gets through as it should, but
> of course (if your eyes are trained on what to look for i'm sure
> it'll be obvious) email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] gets frozen:
>
> lowest MX record for dontuthink.com points to local host
>
> short version: what am i missing?
> long version: how would a newbie diagnose this kind of thing?
>
If you only want to match the top-level domain dontuthink.com
and not subdomains like "mail.dontuthink.com" (as seems to be
the case, from how you've set your local_domains line) then
leave out the wildcards from /etc/clients/domains, like so:
dontuthink.com will
The second field is the name of a file. The director that I use
("virtual") retrieves this field as $domain_data. The file contains
aliases for users in that domain; the simplest case is a file like
* will
which forwards all mail for the domain to will.
Your virtual director should look more like this:
virtual:
driver = aliasfile
except_domains = localhost:serensoft.com:*.serensoft.com
domains = lsearch;/etc/exim/domains
no_more
file = /etc/exim/$domain_data
search_type = lsearch*
The except_domains is probably not really necessary, but
prevents the driver matching your 'non-virtual' domains
(the "domains=" line should be enough). The "lsearch*"
(in place of just "lsearch") allows wildcard matching in the
aliasfile.
In the example you gave, there would be an aliasfile for
dontuthink.com at /etc/exim/will that, for example, might
contain the line
* will
to forward all mail for dontuthink.com to the local user
called Will.
HTH,
John P.
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Re: trouble with fetchmail via exim
Michael Banck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Don't know if this is applyable here, just pointing out a potential > problem. Actually, I don't really have a domain name for my local > "network" (i.e. my desktp and my notebook) I just use hostnames. How > do > I set up a domain name in Debian? OK. I too use GMX. Excellent service too. My machine's name (hostname) is scgf. If I look in /etc/hosts I see: 127.0.0.1 scgf localhost In /etc/hostname: scgf scgf does not exist in the real world, just on my machine. My /etc/exim.conf it set up like this (there is a lot more besides, of course, but these lines are relevant to this thread): qualify_domain = gmx.co.uk qualify_recipient = scgf.gmx.co.uk local_domains = localhost:scgf.gmx.co.uk host_accept_relay = localhost The above lines ensure that all outgoing mail appears to come from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Local mail is delivered locally and does not leave my system. All incoming mail from my ISP, collected by fetchmail, is detected by Exim and is delivered according to the filters in my ~/.forward file. Using the hostname avaoids the problem you mentioned, Michael, where gmx.net (or gmx.co.uk in my case) would otherwise be seen as a local domain and mail to other gmx.net users would not leave the system. -- Phillip Deackes Using Storm Linux
Re: I am now totally confused about modules
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Christophe Broult <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In short the alsa modules uses the OSS sound modules to provide sound > > for your system. > > I don't have alsa on my system. I did try it once but removed the package. By any chance, do you still have a file named /etc/modutils/alsa? If you have removed the alsa package, did you purge all configuration files, i.e. use '_' (purge) in dselect instead of '-' (remove)? If you use remove instead of can still purge this package. Chris -- "Man is distinguished from all other creatures by the faculty of laughter." - Joseph Addison
Re: apt-get won't play
On Sun, Aug 20, 2000 at 08:27:11PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Thank you. > > Apt-get, which worked so well when I went from 2.0 -> 2.1, is being a royal > grade "A" bastard (pardon my French!) now. Maybe I'm missing something > obvious: > > - The sources file is set up for > deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib > - I run apt-get update > - apt-get update complains it can't resolve the above address, complains it > can't run a stats on the earlier packages on the system, then suggests I run > apt-get update! > I had the same problem because I thought that I needed to upgrade my apt to the "statically linked" package mentioned in the upgrade notes. But that is only if you are upgrading via a CD set. If you are going over the net, you need to use the latest apt (v0.3.10) in slink, or it will not properly resolve names. The 0.3.19 will not work in slink for a net upgrade. --Jay Barbee
Re: Linux Mail Client (was: Re: Web browsers for Linux (was: Re: Netscape Bus Error))
Steve Lamb wrote: > On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 06:33:48PM -0400, David Zoll wrote: [snip] > > 1) Fetchmail, which will grab the mail from separate accounts, and > > stuff it through... > > Requires filtering to separate out accounts which should be separate in > the first place. The way I see it, you have two choices. Use separate tasks for each mail account, or use one task for all accounts and perform a process that could be labeled "filtering". Fetchmail offers both options. If there is a third choice (and I don't mean something that filters but calls it something else), I'd love to hear about it. [snip] > > 3) Procmail, which will easily organize your email into whatever > > structure you see fit, with plenty of folders and subfolders for... > >...also does filtering, no need for procmail. True, procmail is in many ways redundant here, but it offers much more flexibility than any other option I've seen, and it's easy to configure quickly. > > 4) Mutt, which can either be set up with an bunch of folder-hook > > commands to change your settings based on which account's email you are > > looking at, or with a different muttrc for each account and run with > > "mutt -M ~/.muttrc-", depending on how you want to use it. Use > > aliases to keep the command lines easy to remember and type. > > A bunch of folder hook commands or have to use a separate instance > completely. > > So each time I sign up for a new mailing list on my work account, for > example, I need to: > > Add a new filter to my work account set of filters. Only if you want it in a subfolder in your work account mail directory. I've seen no option on any client that would avoid this step. > Add a folder definition into Mutt just to keep it straight. What do you mean a "Folder definition"? Provided you use subdirectories sanely, you can use one set of folder-hooks for an entire accounts worth of subfolders, and only need to add one if you need something special for a specific subfolder. > Still send mail out my home SMTP server. Which can then route the mail to the appropriate mail server. This is how SMTP was designed to work. Alternately: "folder-hook sendmail ". You just put in one of those lines for each separate account. > > The only downside I see with the above is it's a bear to configure > > initially. It should be a SMOP to write a script or a GUI druid to > > automate such configurations. > > It is a bear to configure every time something changes, Not really, most changes should just work; others, change a line or two and you're done. The only change that will be a bear is adding, removing or moving an entire account. If those change often, work on an automation script, shouldn't be hard. > it doesn't keep it all separate, COMPLETELY SEPARATE. That is unacceptable. The mailboxes are separate, the outgoing mail is separate, the headers are separate; hell, even the user interface can be separaete if you want to be perverse about it. What more do you want to separate? > > If this isn't enough power for you, what more do you want? There's > > probably a solution, but you have to be specific as to your needs. If > > you can't express what you want, "Too bad" is all that can really be > > said without you paying someone. > > I have been specific. I have even given examples! PMMail and The Bat! > Screen shots alone for those two products speak volumes! I must have missed that. I will look for those packages. Best of Luck, -Gleef
Lexmark printer...
> I have been reading a lot of messages about printers lately. > > I am wondering what filter I should use for a Lexmark optra E310 > printer. > This is a postscript printer with 1 Mb of memory (I think). I have this very same printer... since it's postscript you don't need any filters at all.. or just use magicfilter and choose the ps600 (i think) filter... it converts everything to postscript... I still think this is a fabulous printer... for such a cheap thing... Mark Janssen Unix Consultant Unix Support Nederland / PSInet Netherlands E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]GnuPG Key Id: 357D2178 http: markjanssen.homeip.net www.markjanssen.nl www.maniac.nl Fax/VoiceMail: +31 20 8757555 Finger for GPG and GeekCode
semaphores and shared memory kernel parameters
how to know from a running binary kernel the parameters for semaphores and shared memory? how to know parameters who have default kernels ? thanks, jaume
apt-cdrom finds too many "Packages"
Hi, I had the bad idea of putting extra software in the 4th CD of my own unofficial Potato distribution. It happens that somewhere in the directory tree of this extra software there exists a *directory* called "Packages" apt-cdrom tries to read debian packages from it and fails, making all the packages in the CD unavailable. Is there a way to circumvent this problem, other than reburn the CD changing the name of the offending directory ? -- Thanks in advance, O__ Enzo.,>/ ()=\() Enzo A. Dari | Instituto Balseiro / Centro Atomico Bariloche 8400-San Carlos de Bariloche, Argentina | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 54-2944-445208, 54-2944-445100 Fax: 54-2944-445299 Web page: http://cabmec1.cnea.gov.ar/darie/darie.htm
Re: color in Emacs
%% Goeman Stefan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: gs> Putting something like this gs> emacs*background:white gs> emacs*foreground:black This is not the right way to do this. Use class names, not instance names: Emacs*background: white Emacs*foreground: black -- --- Paul D. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Network Management Development "Please remain calm...I may be mad, but I am a professional." --Mad Scientist --- These are my opinions---Nortel Networks takes no responsibility for them.
Re: Linux Mail Client (was: Re: Web browsers for Linux (was: Re: Netscape Bus Error))
Steve Lamb wrote: [snip] > I have been specific. I have even given examples! PMMail and The Bat! > Screen shots alone for those two products speak volumes! OK, I've gone and looked at the websites for those two products. I can't really test either effectively in the real world since: * both cost money I'm not willing to spend on this, and; * neither appears to support IMAP, so I'd have to completly redo how I manage mail just to evaluate the products; >From what I can see from the websites, however: * Both use filters heavily, so I am officially confused as to what your problem with filtering is * PMMail in particular shows mailboxes organized exactly the way I was suggesting * Both look easier to configure than what I was suggesting * Both look less powerful and feature-rich than what I was suggesting Of course, your mileage may vary. -Gleef
Re: Linux Mail Client
Steve Lamb wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 06:47:49PM -0700, Seth Cohn wrote: > > So go ahead, start a sourceforge project page, and write a damn clone. > > Go look on Sourceforge in the email clients and notice what the first one > /is/. It's acmemail (https://sourceforge.net/projects/acmemail/). It's a webmail program that sounds nothing like what you were describing. -Gleef
Re: Linux Mail Client (was: Re: Web browsers for Linux (was: Re: Netscape Bus Error))
On Wed, Aug 23, 2000 at 07:50:27AM -0400, Cory Snavely wrote: > If that's the case, how far is Netscape Communicator from doing what you > want (using IMAP)? Have as many IMAP accounts as you want (Netscape > doesn't seem to consider them folders), plus a folder structure for > each, distinct Inboxes and Trash, plus a local folder structure in case > you want that. Close, but not perfect. They insist on sending everything out a single SMTP server. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+-
Re: Linux Mail Client
On Wed, Aug 23, 2000 at 10:04:38AM -0400, David Zoll wrote: > > Go look on Sourceforge in the email clients and notice what the first > > one /is/. > It's acmemail (https://sourceforge.net/projects/acmemail/). It's a > webmail program that sounds nothing like what you were describing. Acmemail is the first in email, not email clients. Note above I said email clients and not email. Would you kindly check again in the right area and tell me what the first project is? -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+-
Re: Sync mail with palm
On Wed, Aug 23, 2000 at 01:14:41PM -0700, Michael Meskes wrote: > Anyone's able to sync a lokal mailbox/maildir with some mail software on a > palmpilot? Ideally I would like to sync to my local IMAP server, but without > using a modem connection. You might try pilot-mail. -- Mark Brown mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trying to avoid grumpiness) http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~broonie/ EUFShttp://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/filmsoc/ pgphUXWturQe7.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Linux Mail Client (was: Re: Web browsers for Linux (was: Re: Netscape Bus Error))
On Wed, Aug 23, 2000 at 10:00:54AM -0400, David Zoll wrote: > OK, I've gone and looked at the websites for those two products. I > can't really test either effectively in the real world since: > * both cost money I'm not willing to spend on this, and; The Bat! has a 30 day trial period, PMMail has a 45-day trial period. One need not spend money to try them out. You can say that of, oh, Eudroa Pro, but not those two. > * neither appears to support IMAP, so I'd have to completly redo how I > manage mail just to evaluate the products; PMMail does not, TB! does. However, given that there hasn't been a decent client for IMAP yet that isn't much of a concern nor does that prevent you from downloading them and playing with them in a sandbox account to see how they do things. > * Both use filters heavily, so I am officially confused as to what > your problem with filtering is Notice that filtering comes after the separation of the accounts, not as part of the process of separating the accounts. Simply stated, if you didn't filter the mail the incoming mail on each account would be separate as the default behavior instead of jumbled together. Also all outgoing mail is kept separate as the default. All settings are separate as a default. > * PMMail in particular shows mailboxes organized exactly the way I was > suggesting But does that as default instead of having to be arm-twisted into it. Hmm, and they decided to change the home page on me. Hate it when they do that. > * Both look easier to configure than what I was suggesting O-bing. > * Both look less powerful and feature-rich than what I was suggesting I don't see it that way. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+-
Re: Linux Mail Client
On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 05:05:56PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 08:44:08PM +0100, Mark Brown wrote: > > ;-) . Having used Outlook, which seems to be the example people are > > quoting of something that supports this I actually prefer the separate > *cough* I have stated two clients constantly. PMMail and The Bat!. I've never used either of those. How do they look from a user interface point of view? I'm thinking of things like starting a new mail and deciding which personality it's going to use. > Outlook has the dubious distiction of having the best IMAP implementation thus > far but i does the same thing as what people who tell me use fetchmail does. > Dumps everything into a single location and has it up to you to figure out. > Same with Pegasus and Eudora. All three are just as unacceptable. Outlook lets you leave your mail on the IMAP server (that's how I've got it set up, anyway) and claims to let you select your e-mail address on a per-server basis. It doesn't seem to have variable store for sent items, though. > > I guess Evolution might do what you want - it seems aimed fairly > > squarely at being an Outlook clone, although it's obviously not ready > > yet. > Nope, it is unacceptable because it doesn't have separate mail accounts, > just personalities on a single account. It's still in the early stages yet - give it time. [mutt with hooks] > I could get a close approximation, yes. In doing so expend 3-4 more times > work to get something "close" to ideal. That is not acceptable in my eyes > from a usability perspective. Mutt is the unix of mail clients. Kick ass > power and flexibility, total lack of simple usability. You could probably write a script to generate the configuration, but it's still not ideal. I'd observe that it's not exactly rocket science and that the situation you're describing is fairly unusual, at least in my experience. Generally, utterly distinct identities are associated with similiarly distinct physical and/or computing environments and the problem doesn't really arise. -- Mark Brown mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trying to avoid grumpiness) http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~broonie/ EUFShttp://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/filmsoc/
Re: Linux Mail Client (was: Re: Web browsers for Linux (was: Re: Netscape Bus Error))
On Wed, Aug 23, 2000 at 09:27:40AM -0400, David Zoll wrote: > there is a third choice (and I don't mean something that filters but > calls it something else), I'd love to hear about it. Simply stated, one program that has two instances in itself. Like an editor which can edit two buffers at the same time. > > Add a new filter to my work account set of filters. > Only if you want it in a subfolder in your work account mail directory. > I've seen no option on any client that would avoid this step. Really? How, then, will it get into the default work directory if I don't set up a filter? How will it be caught by my current set of filters if it already isn't there? > > Add a folder definition into Mutt just to keep it straight. > What do you mean a "Folder definition"? Provided you use subdirectories > sanely, you can use one set of folder-hooks for an entire accounts worth > of subfolders, and only need to add one if you need something special > for a specific subfolder. True. This was written before I was made aware of that feature of mutt. Let's just say I consider one of the many failings of mutt that many of the "hey, cool!" features are impossible to find by playing with the product which is the exact opposite of my experience with other similar products. > > Still send mail out my home SMTP server. > Which can then route the mail to the appropriate mail server. This is > how SMTP was designed to work. Technically, yes. However, if your boss says that work email is not to touch outside SMTP servers as a matter of policy how far do you think "Well, the SMTP server will route it correctly anyway, that is what they do" will fly? There are reasons other than technical to different servers. > Alternately: "folder-hook sendmail ". > You just put in one of those lines for each separate account. I fail to see how this would have mutt send mail to my corporate SMTP server which is over the net. Are you suggesting I now write a small wrapper to do the dumb forwarding over the network? Not beyond my capabilities by any means but foolish to require most people to do that for such a simple task. > > It is a bear to configure every time something changes, > Not really, most changes should just work; others, change a line or two > and you're done. The only change that will be a bear is adding, > removing or moving an entire account. If those change often, work on an > automation script, shouldn't be hard. This is unacceptable. Changes in 2-3 different locations and if you want to do it often, script it on your own. I'm sorry but any heavily used process should already have an interface to change it easily or have sane defaults. Neither of which are present here. > > it doesn't keep it all separate, COMPLETELY SEPARATE. That is unacceptable. > The mailboxes are separate, the outgoing mail is separate, the headers > are separate; hell, even the user interface can be separaete if you want > to be perverse about it. What more do you want to separate? Only after massive arm-twisting, a mind boggling complex configuration and it still has problems with separate SMTP servers and other such things. Meanwhile what I am used to does all of that as the default course. It is separate. You want to mix it up, forward from one account to the other but until you do it doesn't mix it up for you because each account is, as it should be, completely separate. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+-
tasksel problems
Hi, I've just moved to debian from redhat, and I've become aware of the excellent package tasksel. I know that tasksel has the ability to install tasks like c++ dev etc, these I saw when I first installed debian. However, I am pretty sure it also has others which aren't listed when I load it up - how do I access tasks like helixcode, netscape etc? Should I change my apt sources file? thanks, Renai (I use apt-get with a debian mirror)
brace expansion in ash?
I was doing this in a Makfile:
install -m 644 debian/{0*,READ*,c*,gri*,watch} gri-2.6.0/debian
and it turns out the brace expansion is a bashism, as ash doesn't
support it. Is there a sh-compliant way of doing this? I looked
at the ash man page but didn't see anything obvious.
e.g.
> ash
$ ls debian/{0*,READ*}
ls: debian/{0*,READ*}: No such file or directory
$ ls debian/{0*,READ*,c*,gri*,watch}
> bash
bash-2.04$ ls debian/{0*,READ*}
debian/00Porters.readmedebian/README.Debian.unofficial
debian/README.Debian.template
Thanks.
Peter
Re: Linux Mail Client
On Wed, Aug 23, 2000 at 03:25:02PM +0100, Mark Brown wrote: > I've never used either of those. How do they look from a user interface > point of view? I'm thinking of things like starting a new mail and > deciding which personality it's going to use. There is no concept of "personalities". Click in the account you want to use, click new message, it uses that account. The Bat! offers the choice of changing which accout you use after opening the new message. > Outlook lets you leave your mail on the IMAP server (that's how I've > got it set up, anyway) and claims to let you select your e-mail address > on a per-server basis. It doesn't seem to have variable store for sent > items, though. Which is one of the many problems with the personalities paradigm. The assumption is that it is your mail, no matter what the name on the account or which server it came from, so it is alright that it all gets mixed in together. I believe Eudora and Pegasus both do this (as do every other client following the personalities model, including mutt to an extend). > > Nope, it is unacceptable because it doesn't have separate mail accounts, > > just personalities on a single account. > It's still in the early stages yet - give it time. I would be delighted if they took that route. However, the screen shots given so far suggest they are going to go the personalities route since so few people are aware of having the accounts separate inside the program. Of all the clients I have used across four platforms now (OS/2, Windows, Unix, BeOS) only the two I mentioned have ever done the separate accounts. > You could probably write a script to generate the configuration, but > it's still not ideal. Exactly. > I'd observe that it's not exactly rocket science and that the situation > you're describing is fairly unusual, at least in my experience. Generally, > utterly distinct identities are associated with similiarly distinct physical > and/or computing environments and the problem doesn't really arise. I do not see this as the case. Personally I abhor mixing mail of different addresses when there is a funcional difference between those addresses in meatspace. For example, postmaster vs. slamb3 on the corporate side of life. Since those are two different roles I would be filling (not that I do now, but I did at one time) I would much rather keep that mail completely separate but still be able to check both with the same email client. They are not different in physical or computing environments, only in what hat I am wearing, what problems I am solving, in what capacity for the company I am speaking and the possibility of handing off some of those roles to other people and having to provide them the history of those transmissions. Now imagine this for different roles across the gamut of different addresses and associated roles one might accumulate through their lives. Off the top of my head I know that there are several different roles that I would like to perform and have a separate address for because those roles may switch off in the future and/or I do not want them mixed up with either my personal mail or professional mail. Lead of the AIMS project, for example. Part of my plans for my rpglink.com domain which I believe expires today. Wonder if register.com will be able to take it over. Ah, that is another one, registering of domains and associated email that goes with it. I have found that keeping the accounts separate quite useful which is why I prefer that as the sane default. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+-
Re: Linux Mail Client
On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 09:56:11PM -0700, Seth Cohn wrote: > Brian and I said the same thing, and you complained in the answer to him > that GNU/Linux isn't just about coding. You are right, it's also about > particpating in the process. This means doing things like using betas and "Free software: contribute nothing, expect nothing" -- Mark Brown mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trying to avoid grumpiness) http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~broonie/ EUFShttp://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/filmsoc/
Re: Linux Mail Client
On Wed, Aug 23, 2000 at 03:44:12PM +0100, Mark Brown wrote: > "Free software: contribute nothing, expect nothing" As members of the Debian project are sure to tell you there are more ways to contribute than just code. Documentation and testing are two examples that I see recurring all the time in the devel list. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+-
Re: Linux Mail Client
%% Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> It's acmemail (https://sourceforge.net/projects/acmemail/). It's a >> webmail program that sounds nothing like what you were describing. sl> Acmemail is the first in email, not email clients. Note above I sl> said email clients and not email. Would you kindly check again in sl> the right area and tell me what the first project is? ALM? Doesn't look like there's much there. -- --- Paul D. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Network Management Development "Please remain calm...I may be mad, but I am a professional." --Mad Scientist --- These are my opinions---Nortel Networks takes no responsibility for them.
Re: Linux Mail Client
On Wed, Aug 23, 2000 at 10:52:43AM -0400, Paul D. Smith wrote: > sl> Acmemail is the first in email, not email clients. Note above I > sl> said email clients and not email. Would you kindly check again in > sl> the right area and tell me what the first project is? > ALM? Doesn't look like there's much there. *sigh* We must be having a serious problem somewhere. I just checked for the third time since last night. First project in Email Clients is not acmemail (email) nor ALM (who knows where that came from). It is AIMS Prototype. While there is not a lot there what is there is part of what was asked for. One was opening of a project and the second was a description of what would and would not be included. Of course one person has already gone, looked at it, and dismissed it because he failed to look in the forums even though the description states, "See the forum for more details." Given that the project is still in the planning stages I'd not expect more to be there. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+-
Re: Baking my own bootable potato using mkisofs
csj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: csj> I would like to know how to make my own bootable Debian csj> installation CD, WITHOUT the use of those humongous *.iso csj> files. For some reason my ISP frequently turns in abysmal ftp csj> transfer rates. I plan to use a web grabber, pavuk, to snarf the csj> packages off the net. You should look into the Debian Pseudo-Image Kit, which is designed to work around exactly this problem (among others). It essentially downloads all of the files and packages that belong on a particular Debian CD, cats them together into something looking sort of like an iso9660 CD image, and then uses rsync to make this look like an official CD image. Look for details on http://cdimage.debian.org/. (WIBNI useful things like this and the various documents that are useful to look at were top-level links from cdimage? I just burned a potato CD set, and found it terribly difficult to find things that I knew lived on the cdimage Web site that I pretty much needed to make the images. Things like the list of rsync mirrors, the pointer to the official file lists, and so forth.) -- David Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mit.edu/~dmaze/ "Theoretical politics is interesting. Politicking should be illegal." -- Abra Mitchell
Re: Exim Error: Sender Domain must Exist
On Wed, Aug 23, 2000 at 07:59:21AM -0400, Sebastian Canagaratna wrote: > Hi: > >I am using Debian Potato from home and connect by modem to my >university network using exim. The connection uses DHCP. My machine >is named sebastian. I can collect, using fetchmail, my mail >coming to the university post office server, but when I send mail >to the university or outside, I get the error message; Sender >domain must exist. My machine is interpreted as [EMAIL PROTECTED] >which is clearly not recognized as an legitimate machine. I guess >it recognizes the IP address given to me by the DHCP server, >but how do I configure exim to look after this? When I first set up exim a long time ago with my isp, I had the same problem. The "sender" is your user. Exim probably sends it as coming from @sebastian. The SMTP server of onu doesn't like that. Solution: use address rewriting to change <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> to the email address you want people to see. In my exim.conf, at the bottom under "Address Rewriting": [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]Ffsr ^^ ^ || rewrite it in these fields(From sender reply-to) anything from my machine | |rewrite it to this Hope you understand my ascii art :) > >Thanks in advance. > >Sebastian Canagaratna >Department of Chemistry >Ohio Northern University >Ada, OH 45810 > > > > -- Pat Mahoney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: Linux Mail Client
Steve Lamb wrote: > It is AIMS > Prototype. While there is not a lot there what is there is part of what was > asked for. >the description states, "See the forum for more details." Given that > the project is still in the planning stages I'd not expect more to be there. There's about one page of text in the entire project, which you could have re-posted here. We would have been submitted to _less_ traffic.
Re: Linux Mail Client
%% Regarding Re: Linux Mail Client; you wrote: sl> On Wed, Aug 23, 2000 at 10:52:43AM -0400, Paul D. Smith wrote: sl> Acmemail is the first in email, not email clients. Note above I sl> said email clients and not email. Would you kindly check again in sl> the right area and tell me what the first project is? >> ALM? Doesn't look like there's much there. sl> *sigh* We must be having a serious problem somewhere. I just sl> checked for the third time since last night. First project in sl> Email Clients is not acmemail (email) nor ALM (who knows where sl> that came from). It is AIMS Prototype. Go to http://sourceforge.net/ Enter "email clients" in the search box. Press "search". First item that is returned is "ALM - Another Linux Mailer". If you'd quit trying to be so damn coy and just give the name, it would be a lot easier on everyone. I'm not interested in groveling through the software map to 4 levels down to find it; that ain't my idea of fun. -- --- Paul D. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Network Management Development "Please remain calm...I may be mad, but I am a professional." --Mad Scientist --- These are my opinions---Nortel Networks takes no responsibility for them.
