Re: Enlightenment and X

[Joseph de los Santos]

From: Sven Burgener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
3) Are there any *good* apps that I *need* to have? :)
> AFAIS, I just *love* eterm. Great stuff! :)
>

Yes. get those cute little "epplets". if you like eterm..you'll also like
those tiny epplets too!

xsession errors

[estoy]

Hi there:

My problem is I can't get into X mode, aparently 'cause of an 
authorization issue.

My .xsessionerror file has these lines:
===
xrdb: Can't open display ':0'
Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server
xmodmap:  unable to open display ':0'
/usr/bin/X11/WindowMaker fatal error: could not open display ":0"
===

What should I do? Do I have to setuid... what?

I hope you don't mind such a newbie question.
Thanks!

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Re: NE2k problem

[Phil Brutsche]

A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said...

> Hi. I have a problem with my NE2000 PCI clone. Whenever I do an insmod
> on the module, it comes back with an `unresolved symbols' error. If
> anyone has tips out there it would be appreciated.

What are the symbols?

What's most likely happening is you're doing only an `insmod ne2k-pci`.
You need to do one of two things:

modprobe ne2k-pci

or

insmod 8390
insmod ne2k-pci

to get your ethernet card to work.

The unresolved symbols are coming from the low-level driver for the
National Semiconductor 8390 (or compatible) microcontroller on the
ethernet card.  The low-level code is shared among about 10 ethernet card
drivers (some 3com ISA cards, NE1k/NE2k, WD 80*3, 'prolly some others)
that use the same microcontroller but have differing "glue logic" to send
the microcontroller the commands.

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Re: Potato and Helix-Gnome

[Ross Boylan]

I think apt had some problems with handling CD's, especially multiple
ones.  You might want to check the bug list.

On Wed, Jul 05, 2000 at 08:45:05AM -0500, Robert Maynord wrote:
> Dear debian-user List Friends:
> 
> I have been following the Potato and Helix-Gnome discussions, and decided
> to try the setup.  I downloaded last weeks version of Potato, and it works
> fine.  I purchased the Helix-Gnome disk, and it works - at least with Red
> Hat.  I have unsuccessfully tried the Potato-Helix combination on two
> completely different computers, so the problem must be mine.  I begin with
> the the Potato installation, and when it gets to the apt-get section, I
> include the Helix-Gnome CD.  Potato sees the Helix-Gnome CD fine, and I
> select the three Helix-Gnome boxes in the apt-get "simple" selection area.
> I then continue the installation, and all works fine until apt-get begins
> the actual installation of the packages.  Then the messages (describing
> which packages are to be installed) appear at different starting points on
> the screen. The last message is: "Do you want to continue? [Y/n]"  At this
> point the computer freezes and will not respond to a typed Y (enter) or any
> other keyboard action.  
> 
> My hope is to use the Debian/Helix-Gnome combination on computers at an
> elementary school.  Any help on this problem would be very much appreciated!!!
> 
> p.s. I have also tried installing Helix-Gnome after completing a
> Potato-only installation.  Potato installs fine.  But when I begin the
> Helix-Gnome part, directly from the CD as per Helix-Gnome instructions, the
> same screen freezing occurs.  
> 
> 
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Re: Background mail transfers

[Pap Tibor]

"Stephen A. Witt" wrote:

>
> Well, I'm sure there are a lot of ways around this. What I do is to use
> diald to allow on demand connections to my ISP. I then have a cron job
> that runs fetchmail periodically to get the mail about 4 times a day.
> Additionally I wrote a little perl script that runs when I log in (started
> by kde) that will get mail if the network connection is up every 10
> minutes. diald is a nice solution as you are not controlling connection.
> When fetchmail, or any other application requiring network access, is
> finished, diald will end the connection. diald allows one to do other
> things automatically also. I run leafnode so my machine is a USENET news
> server. leafnode gets the news in the middle of the night and I can read
> it from a local disk whenever I want to and not have to put up with
> downloading news in real time.

And how do you post news messages? Does leafnode do this yob for you too?

>
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Could you send your perl script please?

Thanks,
--papt

apsfilter and dselect

[Charlie Ebert]

I'm having a hard time printing and decided to use
dselect to load apsfilter.

When dselect ran the configuration for apsfilter I noticed
that several programs apsfilter used were not there.

g3cut
html2ps
pnmtolps
ras2ps
recode
bunzip
compress
melt
pack

Of this list, html2ps and recode I found on the potato directories and
installed them.  The rest, I'm not sure about.  I couldn't find them.

It occured to me that we should make suggested selections of these other
programs when people install apsfilter.  In-fact, I would have a tendency
to make them actual dependency's of apsfilter. There was quite a list of
them
and these were the only ones missing.

It also occured to me, either I don't know how to search for a program by
name
using dselect or there is not feature to search for a program by name using
dselect.

Finally, I wonder why these other software packages aren't in potato?
I am assuming they are not as I didn't find them in 2 passes.

Yet, this is only part of my current printing problem.
I'm still having poor luck getting an ungarbled page from my printer.

Tommorrow I think I will change some bios settings and see if that helps.

Thanks
Charlie

Re: Background mail transfers

[Alan]

Hi All,

  A quick question on the verge of this discussion ... I am about to setup 
fetchmail to collect my email from my ISP via diald (as described in this 
thread) but would also like to redistribute the mail once collected to 
individual user accounts based on the alias (contents of the mail "To:" field). 
Does anyone have a fetchmailrc or similar script that does this (also - what 
user account does it run under?).
Cheers,
Alan

- Original Message - 
From: "Pap Tibor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Stephen A. Witt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Barry Samuels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 5:55 PM
Subject: Re: Background mail transfers


"Stephen A. Witt" wrote:

>
> Well, I'm sure there are a lot of ways around this. What I do is to use
> diald to allow on demand connections to my ISP. I then have a cron job
> that runs fetchmail periodically to get the mail about 4 times a day.
> Additionally I wrote a little perl script that runs when I log in (started
> by kde) that will get mail if the network connection is up every 10
> minutes. diald is a nice solution as you are not controlling connection.
> When fetchmail, or any other application requiring network access, is
> finished, diald will end the connection. diald allows one to do other
> things automatically also. I run leafnode so my machine is a USENET news
> server. leafnode gets the news in the middle of the night and I can read
> it from a local disk whenever I want to and not have to put up with
> downloading news in real time.

And how do you post news messages? Does leafnode do this yob for you too?

>
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Could you send your perl script please?

Thanks,
--papt


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Re: Enlightenment and X

[Ethan Pierce]

have you tried EFM?? :)
- Original Message -
From: "Joseph de los Santos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Sven Burgener" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Debian Users"

Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 11:21 PM
Subject: Re: Enlightenment and X


> From: Sven Burgener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 3) Are there any *good* apps that I *need* to have? :)
> > AFAIS, I just *love* eterm. Great stuff! :)
> >
>
> Yes. get those cute little "epplets". if you like eterm..you'll also like
> those tiny epplets too!
>
>
>
>
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>
>

Re: LINUX ON FAT32

[Tom Pfeifer]

Fips 2.0 is also on the Debian ftp site here:

ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/tools/

Tom

Alan wrote:
> 
> Hi Vijay,
> 
>   Are you using fips v 2.0 (partitioning fat32 is new in this version). I've 
> repartitioned a Win98 PC with fips recently - no problem. I picked up the 
> source and binaries a wee while ago - can't remember the URL (reply to me 
> directly and I can email them to you...)..
> Cheers,
> Alan
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Ron Rademaker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 2:58 PM
> Subject: Re: LINUX ON FAT32
> 
> Do you want to remove win98? If so, you can repartition your hd during the
> installation of Debian (uses cfdisk), in this process you remove the
> fat32 partition(s) and you can make ext2 and a swap partition, if you
> also want win98, you can also make a fat32 partition where you can
> install windows (you'll have to install win98 again, except if you got
> more then one partition already, in that case you can just remove one of
> those partitions and replace them by ext2), after that you can use lilo
> to set up multiboot.
> 
> Hope this is of any help.
> 
> Ron Rademaker
> 
> On Tue, 18 Jul 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have win98 on FAT32.  I want to partition the h/d with fips, but it is not
> > allowing me since my pc is with FAT32.  I want to load linux after
> > paritioning.
> >
> > Thx.
> >
> > -Vijay.
> >
> >

Multiple Domains

[Martin Fluck]

Hi.

I have one debian linux server, which manage the domain name system.
Now there´s one domain on this machine for sending and getting emails.
How can I configure bind8 to manage more than one domain with this
machine.

Thanks for your help

Martin

Re: Background mail transfers

[Petr \[Dingo\] Dvorak]

On Tue, 18 Jul 2000, Alan wrote:

A>   A quick question on the verge of this discussion ... I am about to setup
A>   fetchmail to collect my email from my ISP via diald (as described in this
A>   thread) but would also like to redistribute the mail once collected to
A>   individual user accounts based on the alias (contents of the mail
A>   "To:" field). Does anyone have a fetchmailrc or similar script that does
A>   this (also - what user account does it run under?).

I use exim/.forward file macros for the simple things on some mail accounts and
.procmailrc for the more complex things, .procmailrc have its own manpage
procmailrc(5). And to answer your second question, it runs under the user
account from which you run the fetchmail.



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2.2 kernel and frozen

[BEL List Manager]

Hi,

I've just upgraded to the 2.2 (2.2.16 I think) kernel, and have a couple of
questions:

1. How come there is a debian package for 2.2.17, but all I could find on
ftp.kernel.org is 2.2.16?

2. If I compile as bzImage, I get an error on booting after uncompressing
the kernel. It either gives a memory error, out of memory, or just reboots
at this point. If I compile a zImage it's fine. Any ideas?

Many thanks.

Andy

(Kein Betreff)

[Martin Fluck]

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Re: staroffice

[Martin J . Hillyer]

On Tue, Jul 18, 2000 at 08:01:14PM -0400, David Teague wrote:
> On Tue, 6 Jun 2000 kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:
> 
> > 
> > StarOffice is a bloated stuck pig.  It handles MS file formats fairly
> > well though.
> 
> 
> I do a lot of revising of documents, and find that SO doesn't export
> 'tracking changes' to MS Word. If you can work exclusively with SO
> its word processing format does track changes.
> 
> I rebooted to the Win 98 partition and I ran word 97. I'm hoping
> that the  Trelos's Win4Lin (www.trelos.com) will let me run Word 97
> Someone mentioned that it would run Word 95. Fingers crossed.
> 
> anyhbody know for sure?
> 
> --David
> David Teague, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Debian GNU/Linux Because software support is free, timely,
>  useful, technically accurate, and friendly.
>  (I hope this is all of the above.)
> 
Yes, it will run the complete Office97 suite, even Excel w/VBA macros.
I've been running them for three months now with no trouble at all.
(It'll run lots of other Windoze software, too.)

Hang around in the Win4Lin list for a while -
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  There are many comments on which
software will run / won't run / needs tweaking to run...

HTH & HAND
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Re: Compiling Kernel with debian

[Ralf G. R. Bergs]

On Tue, 18 Jul 2000 21:43:14 -0700, Jens Helweg wrote:

>dialog.h:29: curses.h: No such file or directory

As the other folx already suggested, you need the NCurses development package.

But you also need package "bin86". This is used to assembler the boot sector 
code, IIRC. Make sure you got that installed, otherwise kernel compilation 
will fail again at a later stage.


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Re: apsfilter and dselect

[Morten Liebach]

On Wed, Jul 19, 2000 at 12:52:13AM -0500, Charlie Ebert wrote:
> I'm having a hard time printing and decided to use
> dselect to load apsfilter.
> 
> When dselect ran the configuration for apsfilter I noticed
> that several programs apsfilter used were not there.
> 
> g3cut
> html2ps
> pnmtolps
> ras2ps
> recode
> bunzip
> compress
> melt
> pack
> 
> Of this list, html2ps and recode I found on the potato directories and
> installed them.  The rest, I'm not sure about.  I couldn't find them.

They are not there.

> It occured to me that we should make suggested selections of these other
> programs when people install apsfilter.  In-fact, I would have a tendency
> to make them actual dependency's of apsfilter. There was quite a list of
> them
> and these were the only ones missing.

compress == ncompress in debian, I believe melt and pack are
compressionprograms. bzip is the same as bzip2 (more or less), which you
have, and the others are some graphicsfilters AFAIK.

It might be a good idea to suggest all these packages, but they are not
really needed.

The compression utils are so you can print conpressed files with the lpr
command, e.g.: ``lpr my_novel.tex.bz2'' for example.
You could just as well manually bunzip it instead.

Go have a look at http://www.freebsd.org/~andreas/apsfilter for more on
apsfilter, it's a really nice program.

> It also occured to me, either I don't know how to search for a program by
> name
> using dselect or there is not feature to search for a program by name using
> dselect.

There is: ``/'' gets you a promt for somthing you wanna search for.
It is documented within dselect.

HTH
HAND
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Potato Install Problem (Base System Step)

[jpglutting]

Hi,

I have been trying to install a copy of Potato, from last Sunday 
(July . The install is causing problems - first it gave me a bad 
lenght error when unzipping and installing the kernel and drivers 
(drivers.tgz). I solved this by copying the CD to a linux partition on 
another hard drive (not really sure why this worked...). But it will not 
install the Base System. I have tried from the hard drive and the 
CD, and each time it seems to be loading and reading information, 
and then it returns to the install menu with "Install Base System" 
selected again. If I select "Configure Base System", it says that 
the Base system has not been installed.

I know that at least one other person on thi slist has had this 
problem. Anyone else? Any suggestions? Would it help to update 
the Base2_2.tgz file? Is this a problem with the installer?

Thanks,

JP



Montse Rue
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Re: staroffice

[Phillip Deackes]

"Martin J . Hillyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Yes, it will run the complete Office97 suite, even Excel w/VBA macros.
> I've been running them for three months now with no trouble at all.
> (It'll run lots of other Windoze software, too.)

So - let me get this right - Win4Lin is a virtual machine in which you
can run Windows. Or is it some sort of emulator?

Cheers.


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Using Storm Linux

Re: staroffice

[Nick Croft]

On Tue, 18 Jul 2000, David Teague wrote:

> On Tue, 6 Jun 2000 kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:
> 
> > 
> > StarOffice is a bloated stuck pig.  It handles MS file formats fairly
> > well though.

It may be the only use for SO, take a Word .doc and turn it into something
Unix or universal like html.

How fast does a computer need to be? I thought 133mh was slow. Put it on a
333mh box today and it's no faster. Even at 600+ it would be slow if
processor is the clue to speed.

Nick

Sawfish GNOME control center problem

[Alexander Hvostov]

Hi everyone,

I seem to be having a problem with Sawfish's GNOME capplets: unlike all
other capplets, Sawfish's capplets always require me to press "Try" before
pressing "OK" to actually make the changes have any effect. Otherwise,
they are silently ignored, as if I had pressed "Cancel".

On all machines other than this one, the Sawfish capplets work in the
expected manner; i.e., pressing "OK" makes the changes take effect.

I have had this problem for some time, and I now have the latest Sawfish
.debs (0.30.2). I am using Helix GNOME, and Debian woody. There are still
some packages that are out-of-date, but I doubt they will fix the problem,
since it has existed for quite a while now, and it seems specific to this
machine, suggesting a configuration problem. Does anyone know of any
configuration files that might cause this..?

Any help in figuring out this problem would be greatly appreciated. I am
not subscribed to this list, so please send any replies directly to my
email address.

Thanks,

Alex.

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Menu fonts.

[Nick Croft]

Debian Users,

I've migrated to potato from rh. I changed for philosophical reasons, and
am stoked.

Some things needed customising. Printing and mail were a little
trouble. Only one more major worry: the size of fonts in Netscape menus,
gnome menus and the panel need to be reduced.

I've fixed the look of Netscape with some help from a local lad. Wondering
if I might get some help from this list in setting a size for gnome.

Tia

Nick

Re: Debian + Windows98 on the same large disk problem

[Pavel M. Penev]

On Tue, 18 Jul 2000, Dimitris Dracopoulos wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I have recently got a new hard disk 40GB, in which I decided to install both
> Windows98 and Debian, FreeBSD. 
> (I never wanted to install this Win98 stuff on my machine but job matters
> force...)
> 
> I repartitioned the hard disk using slink Debian's cfdisk into a first FAT32
> partition of 12GB and 3 more partitions (second is 12GB BSD, and the other
> two, 10 and 5GB Linux). For the cfdisk to work properly with my large disk,
> I had to specify the disk geometry that FreeBSD's fdisk returned to me.
> 
> Following that I installed Windows98 on the first partition of 12GB. I
> checked with the Windows98 fdisk program, and indeed it finds the 4
> partitions mentioning that the 3 last ones are non-DOS. 
> 
> The problem is that when I use the Windows explorer to see what is the
> available space for my C drive (FAT32 partition), I get that available for C
> are 39GB, i.e. the whole of my hard disk and not just the FAT32 partition.
> Despite that, it reports the C volume label to be the same name as that
> reported by the Windows98 fdisk!
> 
> So, I wonder what is happening? Is it just a bug in the Windows Explorer or
> the actual Windows will expand further than their allocated 12GB partition
> when they have no space and delete my Debian and FreeBSD stuff when I
> install them there?
> 
> Has anyone installed both Debian and Windows98 on the same large disk and
> came across anything similar?
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Dimitris
>  
> 
> 

You should see fdisk(8), section DOS 6.x WARNING.

Success,
Pavel

Re: midi html tags

[Pavel M. Penev]

On Tue, 18 Jul 2000, Jaye Inabnit ke6sls wrote:

> 
> Hello,
> 
> Rather silly querry, but needs asking; I built my website using M$ frontpage,
> and it worked well. browsing it with M$ browsers etc produces midi. Not so
> with netscape. is there a fix to make netscape work with the M$ midi tag?
> 
> I can browse sites that were built with netscape and the midi does work,
> so I will assume that M$ isn't using excepted tags for the midi play.
> 
> any help much appreciated.
> 
> tatah
> 
> -- 
> 
> 
> Jaye:-}
> 
> M.J. Inabnit, KE6SLS e-mail  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 707-442-6579 h/m 707-441-7096 p
> http://www.qsl.net/ke6slsICQ# 12741145
> This mail composed with kmail on kde on X on linux warped by debian
> If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid.
> 
> 

I don't know what M$ products use to build MIDI into HTML, but the right
way to do it according to HTML v4.01 (see http://www.w3.org/) is to use
objects:

13.3 Generic inclusion: the OBJECT element

 
 

   Start tag: required, End tag: required.

Success,
Pavel

Re: xsession errors

[Pavel M. Penev]

On Wed, 19 Jul 100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hi there:
> 
> My problem is I can't get into X mode, aparently 'cause of an 
> authorization issue.
> 
> My .xsessionerror file has these lines:
> ===
> xrdb: Can't open display ':0'
> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
> Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server
> xmodmap:  unable to open display ':0'
> /usr/bin/X11/WindowMaker fatal error: could not open display ":0"
> ===
> 
> What should I do? Do I have to setuid... what?
> 
> I hope you don't mind such a newbie question.
> Thanks!
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X11 is capable of using a number of ways to permit users to connect to it.
Your problem is probably caused because the server and the client run with
different user IDs.

You had better see X(1), xauth(1x), xhost(1x) and iceauth(1x).

Hope I help,
Pavel

Re: Why not diff binaries?

[Pavel M. Penev]

On 18 Jul 2000, Bruce Stephens wrote:

> "Pavel M. Penev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Can someone tell me a sensible reason for not having a 'diff'
> > equivalent for binary file?
> 
> What do you want to do?
> 
> If you want the following:
> 
> Given a binary (or text) file A and a variant of it A',
> generate a patch delta(A,A') representing the differences.
> 
> Then you can use xdelta.  With xdelta, you can construct and apply
> such binary patches.
> 
> diff is also used to generate human-comprehensible differences, and
> I'm not aware of a tool for doing this for binary files.  
> 
> I'm not sure such a program would be useful, but it probably would be
> for certain kinds of files.  For example, a diff that worked on
> (mostly) text-based files, but used a character-based approach rather
> than a line-based one could be very useful.  At one point algorithms
> for this weren't feasible (hence the line-based nature of diff), but
> IIRC, there's at least one algorithm which generates minimal
> differences in linear time (or thereabouts), for some definition of
> "minimal", so it ought to be usable at the byte level.
> 

Thank you all a lot. I have already been told aboult xdelta (and read its
manual); moreover I think a have seen something with more features (like
recusing into directories). I have what I need. I though this topic was
already closed.

Thaks again,
Pavel

Re: staroffice

[Richard Taylor]

Nick Croft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote regarding Re: staroffice:
> On Tue, 18 Jul 2000, David Teague wrote:
> > On Tue, 6 Jun 2000 kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:
> >
> > > StarOffice is a bloated stuck pig.  It handles MS file formats fairly
> > > well though.

> It may be the only use for SO, take a Word .doc and turn it into 
something
> Unix or universal like html.

> How fast does a computer need to be? I thought 133mh was slow. Put it on 
a
> 333mh box today and it's no faster. Even at 600+ it would be slow if
> processor is the clue to speed.

 500 mhz works fairly well. Memory seems to be really important. I 
started getting good performance at around 128 megs. {linux and win} 
Admitted... the program's no speed demon and startups are slow as hell... 
I does run pretty nicely once it is started. This package is as capable 
as you make it... which makes it as good as anything on the market in my 
book. Nothing that's geared to working in HTML with all its attendant 
capabilities and is as well implemented and well organized as Star Office 
is should be written off as a format converter.

 I don't need anything else {tho some sort of dict program would be nice 
but... that's available through an HTML interface anyway} for office, 
mail, HTML, database, etc, etc functions. Many people could get by with 
this program alone. {which would make that startup problem a bit less of 
an issue.}

 This is, durn near, the perfect office interface. {whatever that means.}

Re: Menu fonts.

[Chanop Silpa-Anan]

Once upon a time, I heard Nick Croft say

> I've fixed the look of Netscape with some help from a local lad. Wondering
> if I might get some help from this list in setting a size for gnome.

I just tried grdb package from helix. It works very good, mimicing gtk-theme
for some motif/lestif applications.

For gnome, it uses gtk theme functionalityi, so change the theme to the one
you prefer. Try gnome-control-center (gnomecc) in Desktop-Theme-Selector. At
least you should be able to overide the default fault. If you like the
theme, you might want to try grdb.


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Re: Menu fonts.

[Chanop Silpa-Anan]

Once upon a time, I heard Nick Croft say

> Debian Users,
> 
> I've migrated to potato from rh. I changed for philosophical reasons, and
> am stoked.
> 
> Some things needed customising. Printing and mail were a little
> trouble. Only one more major worry: the size of fonts in Netscape menus,
> gnome menus and the panel need to be reduced.
> 
> I've fixed the look of Netscape with some help from a local lad. Wondering
> if I might get some help from this list in setting a size for gnome.
> 
I forget another thing that you should take a look at, the XF86Config file. 
With new default setting, XF86Config would put 100dpi font before 75dpi
font. If you happen to have xfonts-100dpi installed, you will see a lot big
fonts on your screen.


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Netscape E-Mail-trouble

[Marcel Karras]

Hallo Debians,

I'm using the Netscape Communicator 4.72. (very slow) If I try to recieve an
E-Mail then I will be asked to input my password. I did it, but after pressing
the return-button Netscape kills itself. But I configured the Server-settings
in the right form. (as I did a few time ago in Windows98) Is there any reason
for it?
(there's no error-message)

Thanks awfully!

Re: Menu fonts.

[Nick Croft]

On Wed, 19 Jul 2000, Chanop Silpa-Anan wrote:
> > 
> > I've fixed the look of Netscape with some help from a local lad. Wondering
> > if I might get some help from this list in setting a size for gnome.
> > 
> I forget another thing that you should take a look at, the XF86Config file. 
> With new default setting, XF86Config would put 100dpi font before 75dpi
> font. If you happen to have xfonts-100dpi installed, you will see a lot big
> fonts on your screen.
> 
> 
> Chanop
> 
Great help! Of course.

Nick

Re: Background mail transfers

[Marcio Rosa da Silva]

On Tue, 18 Jul 2000, Barry Samuels wrote:

> Can anyone suggest a way to prevent this apart from running Fetchmail
> manually?

you can use `fetchmail -d ' to start it and `fetchmail --quit' to
stop it. I think fechmail will know what to do if it's fetching and e-mail
when you stop it.

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Re: Enlightenment and X

[Peter S Galbraith]

"Joseph de los Santos" wrote:

> Yes. get those cute little "epplets". if you like eterm..you'll also like
> those tiny epplets too!

Where do you ge those?  There aren't any in the Debian package
I'm using.

Thanks,
Peter

Re: Netscape E-Mail-trouble

[Kent West]

Marcel Karras wrote:
> 
> Hallo Debians,
> 
> I'm using the Netscape Communicator 4.72. (very slow) If I try to recieve an
> E-Mail then I will be asked to input my password. I did it, but after pressing
> the return-button Netscape kills itself. But I configured the Server-settings
> in the right form. (as I did a few time ago in Windows98) Is there any reason
> for it?
> (there's no error-message)
> 
> Thanks awfully!

Netscape is pretty unstable. I don't know if this will help, but I'd
suggest turning off any Java in Netscape (Edit/Preferences/Advanced). If
the email you're receiving has html/java, this might be a factor.

Also, if you have another ISP/email system, you might configure Netscape
to use the second email system as a test. This might help you narrow
down the problem to either your Netscape/system or the first ISP's
system.

Sorry I don't have any definitive answers.

installation question...?

[Ken Ebling]

Hi, I just downloaded all the .bin files from ftp.debian.org's
debian/dists/potato/main/disks-i386/2.2.16-2000-07-14/images-1.44
directory...

I haven't ever seen the kernel-config file before, but that's another
question.. =)

I used rawrite2 to put all the .bin's to disks... when I boot the system
with the rescue disk in the a drive it loads syslinux, and gives me the
screen that I have to push enter on to start installation... on that
screen it says:

This disk uses Linux 2.2.17
(from kernel-image-2.2.17_2.2.17pre6-1)

when I press enter it says:

Loading Linux...
Boot failed: please change disks and press a key to continue.

does anyone know why it says it wants 2.2.17 when I downloaded it from
the 2.2.16 directory!?

Thanks!

Ken

Re: Background mail transfers

[Dave Sherohman]

Alan said:
>   A quick question on the verge of this discussion ... I am about to
> setup fetchmail to collect my email from my ISP via diald (as described in
> this thread) but would also like to redistribute the mail once collected
> to individual user accounts based on the alias (contents of the mail "To:"
> field). Does anyone have a fetchmailrc or similar script that does this

If the messages are going to different accounts on the mail server, you can
have multiple entries in your .fetchmailrc of the form "user foo there is bar
here".  If they're all going to the same account, you'll need to use procmail
or exim (or whatever) filters to divide them up.

> (also - what user account does it run under?).

Whoever runs it.  The default install of fetchmail does not run
automatically.

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Re: Background mail transfers

[Dave Sherohman]

Pap Tibor said:
> And how do you post news messages? Does leafnode do this yob for you too?

Yes.

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Re: Compiling Kernel with debian

[Charles Lewis]

I think if they put libncurses5-dev and bzip2 (and any other missing
package) as suggested dependencies for kernel-source then it would save a
lot of non-gurus some time.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> Jens Helweg wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've just installed my first debian disrtibution (Potato 2.2) and I
> > wanted to compile a new kernel but get the
> > following error message when I execute make menuconfig:
> >
> > rm -f include/asm
> > ( cd include ; ln -sf asm-i386 asm)
> > make -C scripts/lxdialog all
> > make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux/scripts/lxdialog'
> > gcc -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -DLOCALE
> > -DCURSES_LOC=""   -c -o lxdialog.o lxdialog.c
> > In file included from lxdialog.c:22:
> > dialog.h:29: curses.h: No such file or directory
> > make[1]: *** [lxdialog.o] Error 1
> > make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux/scripts/lxdialog'
> > make: *** [menuconfig] Error 2
> >
>
> Jens,
> You need to install libncurses5-dev.  It's only necessary for menuconfig.
May I also
> suggest using the kernel-package utility. It simplifies building and
maintaining
> kernels.  There's good documentation to get you going.
> # apt-get install libncurses5-dev kernel-package
>
> Also, for a lot of questions you can find answers in the Mailing List
Archive. This
> question about ncurses.h pops up all the time.
www.debian.org/List-Archives has a
> sweet search tool at the bottom.
>
> good luck
>
> dyer
>
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Re: Background mail transfers

[Davide Libenzi]

> If the messages are going to different accounts on the mail server, you
can
> have multiple entries in your .fetchmailrc of the form "user foo there is
bar
> here".  If they're all going to the same account, you'll need to use
procmail
> or exim (or whatever) filters to divide them up.

Why don't You take a look at XMail :

http://www.maticad.it/davide/xmail.asp

which has an integrated POP3 accounts sync.



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Re: Netscape E-Mail-trouble

[Morten Liebach]

On Wed, Jul 19, 2000 at 02:05:53PM +0200, Marcel Karras wrote:
> Hallo Debians,
> 
> I'm using the Netscape Communicator 4.72. (very slow) If I try to recieve an
> E-Mail then I will be asked to input my password. I did it, but after pressing
> the return-button Netscape kills itself. But I configured the Server-settings
> in the right form. (as I did a few time ago in Windows98) Is there any reason
> for it?
No, just crappy software.
Try again, it should work now, it did for me!

Regards
Morten

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Re: Netscape E-Mail-trouble

[Philipp Schulte]

On Wed, Jul 19, 2000 at 02:05:53PM +0200, Marcel Karras wrote:

> I'm using the Netscape Communicator 4.72. (very slow) If I try to
> recieve an E-Mail then I will be asked to input my password. I did

Why don't you save the password?

> it, but after pressing the return-button Netscape kills itself. But
> I configured the Server-settings in the right form. (as I did a few
> time ago in Windows98) Is there any reason for it?  (there's no
> error-message)

Netscape 4.72 is the reason :)
It's just buggy. I wouldn't recommend using the Communicator for
receiving or sending mails. Have a look at fetchmail and some MUA
(Mutt, Pine, Gnus). BTW: the current version of Netscape is 4.73,
maybe an upgrade would fix your problems.
Phil

problem with auto-disconnection

[Marcel Karras]

Hallo Debains,

where can I control after how many time my modem disconnects from the internet.
When I write a mail dure being connected to the internet then I don't surf. So
my connection will be dissolved without asking me. Is there an opportunity
where I can control this auto-disconnection from the internet?

Thanks to all!

-
www.tokahome.de

Re: staroffice

[Bob Nielsen]

On Wed, Jul 19, 2000 at 11:27:25AM +0100, Phillip Deackes wrote:
> "Martin J . Hillyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > Yes, it will run the complete Office97 suite, even Excel w/VBA macros.
> > I've been running them for three months now with no trouble at all.
> > (It'll run lots of other Windoze software, too.)
> 
> So - let me get this right - Win4Lin is a virtual machine in which you
> can run Windows. Or is it some sort of emulator?

Win4Lin is a virtual machine with somewhat less capability at this
point than VMware.  It will only run 95 and 98.  I had a number of
hiccups getting it installed in potato, but once it was working, I
find it is more convenient to use than VMware.  Applications seem to
run a bit faster for me than under VMware, as well.

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Re: problem with auto-disconnection

[Ethan Pierce]

Linux ppp is not like the Windows Internet Explorer where it will disconnect
you without permission.  It must be an idle timeout with your ISP.  Set up
fetchmail or some other program that will request network attention
frequently so your ISP wont bump you.

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To: 
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 10:45 AM
Subject: problem with auto-disconnection


> Hallo Debains,
>
> where can I control after how many time my modem disconnects from the
internet.
> When I write a mail dure being connected to the internet then I don't
surf. So
> my connection will be dissolved without asking me. Is there an opportunity
> where I can control this auto-disconnection from the internet?
>
> Thanks to all!
>
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>
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Re: problem with auto-disconnection

[Marcio Rosa da Silva]

On Wed, 19 Jul 2000, Marcel Karras wrote:

> where can I control after how many time my modem disconnects from the
> internet. When I write a mail dure being connected to the internet
> then I don't surf. So my connection will be dissolved without asking
> me. Is there an opportunity where I can control this
> auto-disconnection from the internet?

use de `idle' option of pppd.

[]s,

Marcio

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Re: Netscape E-Mail-trouble

[Jens Guenther]

On Wed, Jul 19, 2000 at 02:05:53PM +0200, Marcel Karras wrote:
> for it?
> (there's no error-message)
> 


Marcel,

did you start netscape from some menu? If so, you might get some error
messages by starting it from an xterm or other terminal emulator.

Cheers,
Jens

Re: Netscape E-Mail-trouble

[Marcel Karras]

Hello,

Am Mit, 19 Jul 2000 schrieb Jens Guenther:
> On Wed, Jul 19, 2000 at 02:05:53PM +0200, Marcel Karras wrote:
> > for it?
> > (there's no error-message)
> > 
> 
> 
> Marcel,
> 
> did you start netscape from some menu? If so, you might get some error
> messages by starting it from an xterm or other terminal emulator.
> 
> Cheers,
> Jens
> 
> 
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yes, now there is an error-message:

German: "Bus-Zugriffsfehler"
English: "bus permission failture"

But what does this mean?
A few days ago it worked.
Any idea?

qmail trouble

[Michal F. Hanula]

I have successfully installed qmail 1.02 (slink) and run it for months.
This morning it has suddenly stopped acepting messages from the outside 
world (remote -> local) --- local -> local and local -> remote works OK.

/var/log/mail.log contains several entries saying that 

[...] starting delivery : msg  to local 
@tristvrte.fphil.uniba.sk

(should be ``to @tristvrte.fphil.uniba.sk'').

I have compiled qmail (build-qmail from qmail-src), but haven't installed 
the  deb. (needed it for another machine). Could this be the reason?
Any ideas?
aTdHvAaNnKcSe
Miso&Frankie

xfree86 4.01

[Ethan Pierce]

The deb packages for xfree4 dont seem to be out yet...will it happen do you 
guys think?  

Im wondering if I should compile from source...I really want to get q3 running 
well and have been told 4.01 is wonderfull with the tnt2 card I have. 

1) Has anyone had any luck compiling from source?

2) What things to check for before installing? e.g.  anything special that I 
need before starting the process?

Thanks for your input guysIm scared to break X if I screw something up.

-E

Re: xfree86 4.01

[Noah L. Meyerhans]

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On Wed, 19 Jul 2000, Ethan Pierce wrote:

> The deb packages for xfree4 dont seem to be out yet...will it happen
> do you guys think?

This is becoming a FAQ.  Unfortunately, I don't know where the answer
is.  Somebody will post the URL of the web page discussing this issue.

> Im wondering if I should compile from source...I really want to get q3
> running well and have been told 4.01 is wonderfull with the tnt2 card
> I have.
> 
> 1) Has anyone had any luck compiling from source?
> 
> 2) What things to check for before installing? e.g.  anything special
> that I need before starting the process?
> 
> Thanks for your input guysIm scared to break X if I screw something up.

Compiling from source was a breeze.  And you won't screw up your own X if
you tell X 4.0.1 to install itself to something like /usr/local/X11R6 or
something like that.  Read the directions included with the distribution
and you should be all set.  Just make sure you've got plenty of free time
to wait while X builds.  I think it's the longest build I've ever
experienced.  As I recall it was something like 90 minutes on my K6-II
450/SCSI/128 MB RAM...

noah

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Re: xfree86 4.01

[Robert L. Harris]

It will happen eventuall.

I got the binaries and installed em straight up.  They work great.
Backup (rar) /usr/X11R6 and /etc/X11  first.  If you hose it real bad,
just recover them from the rar and you're back where you started.

Robert


Thus spake Ethan Pierce ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

> The deb packages for xfree4 dont seem to be out yet...will it happen do you 
> guys think?  
> 
> Im wondering if I should compile from source...I really want to get q3 
> running well and have been told 4.01 is wonderfull with the tnt2 card I have. 
> 
> 1) Has anyone had any luck compiling from source?
> 
> 2) What things to check for before installing? e.g.  anything special that I 
> need before starting the process?
> 
> Thanks for your input guysIm scared to break X if I screw something up.
> 
> -E
> 
> 
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Re: xfree86 4.01

[Robert L. Harris]

Thus spake Noah L. Meyerhans ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> 
> Compiling from source was a breeze.  And you won't screw up your own X if
> you tell X 4.0.1 to install itself to something like /usr/local/X11R6 or
> something like that.  Read the directions included with the distribution
> and you should be all set.  Just make sure you've got plenty of free time
> to wait while X builds.  I think it's the longest build I've ever
> experienced.  As I recall it was something like 90 minutes on my K6-II
> 450/SCSI/128 MB RAM...
> 
> noah
> 

90 mins is long?  You never compiled kernel 0.9X on a 386x16SX with 4
megs of ram I take it?

Robert


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installing MS PS/2 mouse Debian Linux2.1

[William Smith]

After installing Debian Linux2.1 I tried installing X11 but get an error : 

"Fatal server error: Cannot open mouse (Operation not supported by device)"

there is no /dev/mouse device installed and when I try using modconf to
install an MS Bus Mouse I get an error :

"/lib/modules/2.2.12/misc/msbusmouse.o: init_module: Device or resource
busy.  Installation failed"

any suggestions?

Bill

Re: installing MS PS/2 mouse Debian Linux2.1

[Ron Rademaker]

What mouse do you got, subject tells me PS/2 and the mail says MS Bus
mouse, if it's PS/2, you should use /dev/psaux.

Ron Rademaker

On Wed, 19 Jul 2000, William Smith wrote:

> After installing Debian Linux2.1 I tried installing X11 but get an error : 
> 
> "Fatal server error: Cannot open mouse (Operation not supported by device)"
> 
> there is no /dev/mouse device installed and when I try using modconf to
> install an MS Bus Mouse I get an error :
> 
> "/lib/modules/2.2.12/misc/msbusmouse.o: init_module: Device or resource
> busy.  Installation failed"
> 
> any suggestions?
> 
> Bill
> 
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Re: installing MS PS/2 mouse Debian Linux2.1

[William Smith]

Hey it worked - thanks Ron!  (/dev/psaux  that is)

Screen size is all a bit screwed up but I'll work on that one! Thanks again.

Bill
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smail says "550 You are not permitted to send mail"

[Krzys Majewski]

Since everyone else is  asking questions that are completely unrelated
to Debian I'll do my bit and ask one that's only slightly related. 

I've got Smail-3.2.0.102 1998-Aug-2 #2 with the default 
(ie empty) config files. Here's the problem:

09:54:21# ./smail restart
Restarting mail transport agent: smail.
09:54:25# !tel
telnet localhost 25
Trying 127.0.0.1...
Connected to cr275960-a.
Escape character is '^]'.
220-cr275960-a.crdva1.bc.wave.home.com Smail-3.2.0.102 (#2 2000-Feb-23) ready 
at Wed, 19 Jul 2000 09:54:28 -0700 (PDT)
220 ESMTP supported
helo crdva1.bc.wave.home.com
550 You are not permitted to send mail

What gives? The only reason I'm trying to set this up is so that
things like cron jobs will send email to root, as advertised. 
-chris

Getting mail to recognise multiple identities

[tony . curzonprice]

A week ago or so, I posted the list asking for a nice way to get my mail
client to send out from different "apparent" users - I hve my academic
job, my consulting job, my start-up, my personal stuff. All these need
different signatures and headers, and I was getting bored of doing it
all by hand.


Someone pointed me to Pine. After a week of use, it seems to me this is a
_really_ nice solution to these problems. It has many qualities as a
mailer (nice text UI, works great via telnet, is _very_ customisable) and
it seems to sort out the multiple ideniites problem nicely.

Too bad that copyright problems make it unDebianisable.

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Re: xfree86 4.01

[Nathan E Norman]

On Wed, Jul 19, 2000 at 12:26:12PM -0400, Noah L. Meyerhans wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Jul 2000, Ethan Pierce wrote:
> 
> > The deb packages for xfree4 dont seem to be out yet...will it happen
> > do you guys think?
> 
> This is becoming a FAQ.  Unfortunately, I don't know where the answer
> is.  Somebody will post the URL of the web page discussing this issue.

http://www.debian.org/~branden/

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Re: xfree86 4.01

[Moritz Schulte]

On Wed, Jul 19, 2000 at 12:26:12PM -0400, Noah L. Meyerhans wrote:

> > The deb packages for xfree4 dont seem to be out yet...will it happen
> > do you guys think?
> 
> This is becoming a FAQ.  Unfortunately, I don't know where the answer
> is.  Somebody will post the URL of the web page discussing this issue.

do you mean http://www.debian.org/~branden/ ?

   moritz
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Re: Getting mail to recognise multiple identities

[Ron Farrer]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

> A week ago or so, I posted the list asking for a nice way to get my mail
> client to send out from different "apparent" users - I hve my academic
> job, my consulting job, my start-up, my personal stuff. All these need
> different signatures and headers, and I was getting bored of doing it
> all by hand.

Try mutt. It can deal with mutliple address, signatures, etc. Also
it doesn't have a dumb license like pine.  


HTH,

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installation question...?

[Ken Ebling]

Hi, I just downloaded all the .bin files from ftp.debian.org's
debian/dists/potato/main/disks-i386/2.2.16-2000-07-14/images-1.44
directory...

I haven't ever seen the kernel-config file before, but I don't even get
far enough to need it yet...! =)

I used rawrite2 to put all the .bin's to disks... when I boot the system

with the rescue disk in the a drive it loads syslinux, and gives me the
screen that I have to push enter on to start installation... on that
screen it says:

This disk uses Linux 2.2.17
(from kernel-image-2.2.17_2.2.17pre6-1)

when I press enter it says:

Loading Linux...
Boot failed: please change disks and press a key to continue.

does anyone know why it says it wants 2.2.17 when I downloaded it from
the 2.2.16 directory!?

Thanks!

Ken

images iso de debian linux ppc ?

[Julien CANON]

 quelqu'un peut-il m'envoyer une ou plusieurs URL où il est possible
d'obtenir les images ISO des CD de la debian linux PPC.

 merci beaucoup pour cette info qui me manque cruellement.

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How do I install gnome on potato?

[rickloga]

I recently upgraded to Potato and want to use gnome. I am using

the command line interface only. How do I install gnome? I 
read in the mail list archives that there are 3 choices: gnome,

debian, and xsession. But, I did not understand the differences.

I also do not understand the difference between gdm vs xdm, 
gnome-panel, gnome-session. When I apt-get gnome I get not found.

When I search on the forzen packages for gnome I do not get 
the gdm, gnome-session, or gnome-panel packages. So, what are

my choices and how do I implement the choices? I downloaded 
the gnome user guide but it has nothing about installing. Is

there a HOWTO somewhere on installing gnome?

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mysql-server root password

[Northwest Advantage]

Please cc [EMAIL PROTECTED] as I am not currently subscribed to the list.

When I installed mysql-server debconf said to set the mysql root
password.  Then it referenced /usr/share/doc/mysql-server/README.Debian
for the instructions to do so.  The instructions tell you to change it
with /usr/bin/mysqladmin -u root password 'new-password'

This is what happens when I run this command.

frodo:~# /usr/bin/mysqladmin -u root password blah
/usr/bin/mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed
error: 'Access denied for user: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' (Using password: YES)'

Does it have something to do with the hosts file or is it an error in the
instructions or possibly something else?

frodo:~# cat /etc/hosts
127.0.0.1   localhost
216.64.138.18   frodo.nwadv.com frodo
192.168.1.1 frodo.nwadv.com frodo

-Kirt

P.S.  The box was a potato test cycle 2 install that has been kept
current.

Re: Getting mail to recognise multiple identities

[Phillip Deackes]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> 
> A week ago or so, I posted the list asking for a nice way to get my
> mail
> client to send out from different "apparent" users - I hve my academic
> job, my consulting job, my start-up, my personal stuff. All these need
> different signatures and headers, and I was getting bored of doing it
> all by hand.

For anyone else interested, Ishmail is a GUI email app (MUA) which also
facilitates multiple identities. All you need to do is get Ishmail to
add an X-Identity header which is displayed (if you wish) at the top of
the 'Compose' window underneath 'Subject'.

You add an identifying name in the X-Identity box. If I add 'gsmh'
Ishmail looks for a folder called 'gsmh' in my home directory. In that
folder I have three files: '.headers', '.from' and '.signature'. You
just need to put into each file whatever you want to appear on emails
from that particular identity. Once it is set up it is really simple.
You should be able to see the new X-Identity header in this posting.

If you would like a GUI alternative to Pine, you might like to give
Ishmail a try. Ishmail was a commercial app but is now in the public
domain and under active development. It is based on Motif and compiles
cleanly against the now free OpenMotif. An excellent, fully featured
product!

The new Ishmail web site is:  http://ishmail.sourceforge.net/


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Using Storm Linux

Re: mysql-server root password

[Ron Rademaker]

You can also change the password by loggin in as root, and use mysql,
change the password entry in the table user (with SQL statements, don't
forget to use password=password('$password') instead of
password=$password).

Ron Rademaker

On Wed, 19 Jul 2000, Northwest Advantage wrote:

> 
> Please cc [EMAIL PROTECTED] as I am not currently subscribed to the list.
> 
> When I installed mysql-server debconf said to set the mysql root
> password.  Then it referenced /usr/share/doc/mysql-server/README.Debian
> for the instructions to do so.  The instructions tell you to change it
> with /usr/bin/mysqladmin -u root password 'new-password'
> 
> This is what happens when I run this command.
> 
> frodo:~# /usr/bin/mysqladmin -u root password blah
> /usr/bin/mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed
> error: 'Access denied for user: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' (Using password: YES)'
> 
> Does it have something to do with the hosts file or is it an error in the
> instructions or possibly something else?
> 
> frodo:~# cat /etc/hosts
> 127.0.0.1   localhost
> 216.64.138.18   frodo.nwadv.com frodo
> 192.168.1.1 frodo.nwadv.com frodo
> 
> -Kirt
> 
> P.S.  The box was a potato test cycle 2 install that has been kept
> current.
> 
> 
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Re: Background mail transfers

[Barry Samuels]

On Tue, 18 Jul 2000, Simon Michael wrote:

> hmm.. surely fetchmail normally would take this in stride, re-fetching
> the message next time ?

Whoops!  Embarrassing admission time.

Your remark above triggered the thought processes and I've work out what I
think happened.

I am not yet using the linux mail processing as my main mail handler until
I'm satisfied that it's working properly so I have set fetchmail not to
delete mail from the server.  But I also download the mail using OS/2
which then deletes the mail from the server.

So I suspect that having chopped off Fetchmail's download leaving half an
e-mail I subsequently re-booted into OS/2 and downloaded the mail.  This
would have then deleted the mail from the server so that the next time the
mail server was checked using Fetchmail the e-mail as mentioned above was
no longer there.

I hadn't thought that through when I posted to this list.

Apologies all round.  If you ignore me I may go away!

Barry Samuels

Re: images iso de debian linux ppc ?

[Bolan Meek]

Julien CANON wrote:
> 
>  quelqu'un peut-il m'envoyer une ou plusieurs URL où il est possible
> d'obtenir les images ISO des CD de la debian linux PPC.

My French is not good, but I think that what is requested
is a URL for Debian/PPC.

I find

ftp://ftp.debian.org/\
debian/dists/sid/main/disks-powerpc/2.2.16-2000-07-17 ,
but I don't know if there is an ISO image available.
You may want to get
ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/potato/Contents-powerpc.gz ,
and see what Debian has for PPC.

You might think of getting a CD from someone on
http://www.debian.org/distrib/vendors .  Unless your
Internet pipe is fat, and you desire to burn your own CD,
of course.


>  merci beaucoup pour cette info qui me manque cruellement.

Hey, you're welcome beaucoup.


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Re: How do I install gnome on potato?

[Pat Mahoney]

On Wed, Jul 19, 2000 at 11:20:25AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> I recently upgraded to Potato and want to use gnome. I am using
> the command line interface only. How do I install gnome? I 

You do not have X Windows installed apparently?

> read in the mail list archives that there are 3 choices: gnome,
> debian, and xsession. But, I did not understand the differences.

Not sure what you mean here, but it's nowhere near that simple. 
There are many many options.

> 
> I also do not understand the difference between gdm vs xdm, 

gdm and xdm do the same thing (almost).  Instead of the terminal
giving you a login prompt, gdm or xdm does it graphically with X.

> gnome-panel, gnome-session. When I apt-get gnome I get not found.

gnome-panel is part of gnome.  gnome-session is the program to run in
place of the window manager in your .xsession file (stuff in that
file is run when X starts).

Try apt-get task-gnome-desktop.  You might also consider the Helix
gnome package.  Simply add the line:

# Helix GNOME
deb http://spidermonkey.helixcode.com/distributions/debian unstable main

to /etc/apt/sources.list and then apt-get update ; apt-get
task-helix-core task-helix-gnome (also optionally
task-helix-gnome-dev)

Note that I have potato and am running Helix gnome made for woody
just fine.

> 
> When I search on the forzen packages for gnome I do not get 
> the gdm, gnome-session, or gnome-panel packages. So, what are

Hmm, where are you searching, the debian website, dselect...?
> 
> my choices and how do I implement the choices? I downloaded 
> the gnome user guide but it has nothing about installing. Is
> 
> there a HOWTO somewhere on installing gnome?
> 
>

Hope that helps. 

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Re: Enlightenment and X

[Joseph de los Santos]

Yep.  in my opinion, EFM has potential but I'll wait until it's integrated
with enlightenment before trying it for everyday use.it's a real eye-candy
though! ;)

- Original Message -
From: Ethan Pierce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Joseph de los Santos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sven Burgener
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Debian Users 
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 11:14 PM
Subject: Re: Enlightenment and X


> have you tried EFM?? :)
> - Original Message -
> From: "Joseph de los Santos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Sven Burgener" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Debian Users"
> 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 11:21 PM
> Subject: Re: Enlightenment and X
>
>
> > From: Sven Burgener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > 3) Are there any *good* apps that I *need* to have? :)
> > > AFAIS, I just *love* eterm. Great stuff! :)
> > >
> >
> > Yes. get those cute little "epplets". if you like eterm..you'll also
like
> > those tiny epplets too!
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: How do I install gnome on potato?

[Mike Werner]

Pat Mahoney wrote:

> You might also consider the Helix gnome package.

I'll second that.  I'm using it here on a couple of woody machines.  It's
quite nice.

> Simply add the line:
> 
> # Helix GNOME
> deb http://spidermonkey.helixcode.com/distributions/debian unstable main
> 
> to /etc/apt/sources.list and then apt-get update ; apt-get
> task-helix-core task-helix-gnome (also optionally
> task-helix-gnome-dev)

One slight note here - if you want the entire thing (other than the dev
stuff) then you need do only apt-get install task-helix-gnome  That package
depends on the task-helix-core package.  The end effect is the same either
way.

Also, I believe the original poster said he was using his system
command-line only - the task-helix-core package also depends on the core
XWindows package, and the task-helix-core package will bring in the
Sawfish-Gnome window manager.
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Re: Enlightenment and X

[Joseph de los Santos]

>
>
> Where do you ge those?  There aren't any in the Debian package
> I'm using.


 I just checked. the epplets can be found on the debian ftp site. the latest
version I found is epplets 0.5-2. (from the unstable tree) if you have apt
installed you can just call it to get your epplets.

Good Luck

From: Peter S Galbraith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Joseph de los Santos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: Debian Users Mailing List 
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 6:20 AM
Subject: Re: Enlightenment and X


>
> Thanks,
> Peter
>
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Re: mysql-server root password

[Mark Walter]

Hello,

> > frodo:~# /usr/bin/mysqladmin -u root password blah
> > /usr/bin/mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed
> > error: 'Access denied for user: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' (Using password: YES)'

had the same problem. My sysadmin possibly raised a password during
installation. So the database constrained it from root using the
password which I didn't know. One possible solution was to reinvoke
the whole procedure with:

> dpkg-reconfigure -plow mysql-server

I have sudo so hopefully you also got it.
  
> > frodo:~# cat /etc/hosts
> > 127.0.0.1   localhost
> > 216.64.138.18   frodo.nwadv.com frodo
> > 192.168.1.1 frodo.nwadv.com frodo

no, this just containes the hosts names in conjunction with an ip.
You don't really need it as it behaves like a simple DNS while your
routing is doing nslookup's.

Never mind !

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Re: ThinkPad 600, kernel 2.2.17pre6, and hibernation

[Thomas Hood]

> This is just to inform ThinkPad 600 users that I
> have tested the latest kernel, 2.2.17pre6, and can
> report that SFAICT the hibernation problem has been
> solved.

I forgot to mention in my previous message that I had to
make a change to /etc/apm/apmd_proxy in order to get
suspend and hibernate working properly.  Specifically,
I had to remove the part of the script that checks to
see if the machine is on AC power and the request is
a system suspend, and exits in that case.  On the
ThinkPad, Fn-F4 and Fn-F12 generate system suspends
and so do the "tpctl --suspend" and "tpctl --hibernate"
commands; we don't want apmd_proxy to ignore these.

I have filed a bug report against the apmd package
with the above information.

The reason it is important for the /etc/apm/event.d/*
scripts to be run on suspend or hibernate is that,
at present, sound programs must be stopped in order
to prevent them from generating terrible noises after
the resume, before the ALSA drivers have had a chance
to reprogram the sound chip registers.  The 
/etc/apm/event.d/alsa script in the current woody alsa-base
package does just this.  It is to be hoped that someday
in the future the ALSA driver itself will gag playback
on suspend and un-gag it on resume so that the
/etc/apm/event.d/alsa script won't be necessary.
(I have asked the alsa developers to implement this
gagging.  My latest info is that IBM has paid LinuxCare
to modify the ALSA drivers for its upcoming ThinkPad T20
with Caldera Linux preload, and that the resulting mods
will be fed back to the ALSA project.  Good news.)

Thomas Hood
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

My (RedHat with a dab of Debian) Linux on ThinkPad 600 page: 
http://panopticon.csustan.edu/thood/tp600lnx.htm
ThinkPad Configuration Tools for Linux home page:
http://panopticon.csustan.edu/tpctl/tpctlhome.htm

Re: esd says "unable to bind port 16001"

[Thomas Hood]

Try "ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1".

Thomas Hood

ippp0 error

[Willi Dyck]

Hi List,

in general i've no problem connecting to the internet via isdn.
but 3 days ago i've reintalled my debian system and now i can't
establish a connection.
isdnutils is installed
-i've compiled everything that is needed for isdn
-my isdn card is detected correctly
-i run isdnconfig
-i edited the device and ipppd files and all other files needed

but ifconfig shows only eth0 and no ippp0 interface

isdnctrl dial ippp0 says:

ippp0: operation not supported by device

what's wrong here?

Antworten in deutsch auch erwünscht.

Re: ippp0 error

[Moritz Schulte]

On Mon, Jun 19, 2000 at 11:23:16PM +0200, Willi Dyck wrote:

> in general i've no problem connecting to the internet via isdn.
> but 3 days ago i've reintalled my debian system and now i can't
> establish a connection.
[...]
> but ifconfig shows only eth0 and no ippp0 interface
[...]
> isdnctrl dial ippp0 says:
> ippp0: operation not supported by device

what exactly gets logged when you try '/etc/init.d/isdnutils start'?
any error messages?

was wird exakt geloggt, wenn du '/etc/init.d/isdnutils ausfuehrst'?
irgendwelche fehler meldungen?
;)

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Problems compiling kernel...

[Jason Quigley]

Hi!

I am getting the following errors while trying to compile a 2.2.16 kernel 
and modules:


=
=
=

make -C  net CFLAGS="-Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer 
-fno-str
ict-aliasing -pipe -fno-strength-reduce -m486 -malign-loops=2 
-malign-jumps=2 -m
align-functions=2 -DCPU=586 -DMODULE -DMODVERSIONS -include 
/usr/src/linux/inclu

de/linux/modversions.h" MAKING_MODULES=1 modules
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.2.16/net'
make -C ipv4 modules
make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.2.16/net/ipv4'
gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 
-fomit-f
rame-pointer -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -fno-strength-reduce -m486 
-malign-loops
=2 -malign-jumps=2 -malign-functions=2 -DCPU=586 -DMODULE -DMODVERSIONS 
-include
/usr/src/linux/include/linux/modversions.h   -c -o ip_masq_autofw.o 
ip_masq_aut

ofw.c
gcc: Internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 11
make[2]: *** [ip_masq_autofw.o] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.2.16/net/ipv4'
make[1]: *** [_modsubdir_ipv4] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.2.16/net'
make: *** [_mod_net] Error 2
/usr/src/linux#

=
=
=

If I start 'make modules' again, it continues through a couple of source 
files and the crashes with a similar message.


What could be happening?

Many thanks,
Jason.

Re: Problems compiling kernel...

[Gary Hennigan]

Jason Quigley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I am getting the following errors while trying to compile a 2.2.16 kernel 
> and modules:
> 
> =
> =
> =
> 
> make -C  net CFLAGS="-Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer 
> -fno-str
> ict-aliasing -pipe -fno-strength-reduce -m486 -malign-loops=2 
> -malign-jumps=2 -m
> align-functions=2 -DCPU=586 -DMODULE -DMODVERSIONS -include 
> /usr/src/linux/inclu
> de/linux/modversions.h" MAKING_MODULES=1 modules
> make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.2.16/net'
> make -C ipv4 modules
> make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.2.16/net/ipv4'
> gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 
> -fomit-f
> rame-pointer -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -fno-strength-reduce -m486 
> -malign-loops
> =2 -malign-jumps=2 -malign-functions=2 -DCPU=586 -DMODULE -DMODVERSIONS 
> -include
>  /usr/src/linux/include/linux/modversions.h   -c -o ip_masq_autofw.o 
> ip_masq_aut
> ofw.c
> gcc: Internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 11
> make[2]: *** [ip_masq_autofw.o] Error 1
> make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.2.16/net/ipv4'
> make[1]: *** [_modsubdir_ipv4] Error 2
> make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.2.16/net'
> make: *** [_mod_net] Error 2
> /usr/src/linux#
> 
> =
> =
> =
> 
> If I start 'make modules' again, it continues through a couple of source 
> files and the crashes with a similar message.
> 
> What could be happening?

Nothing good. Read the signal 11 FAQ at

http://www.BitWizard.nl/sig11

Gary Hennigan

SCSI adapter. Will it work ?

[Jay Kelly]

Hello Group,
I want ti install a Adaptec AVA 2906 SCSI card but could not find
any information on the web. Will the card work and if so, what
driver should I select in the kernel option setup. Im using
kernel 2.2.16.
Thanks 
Jay
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Re: smail says "550 You are not permitted to send mail"

[Mark Brown]

On Wed, Jul 19, 2000 at 09:58:47AM -0700, Krzys Majewski wrote:

> 550 You are not permitted to send mail

localhost isn't in the list of systems that smail will allow to forward
mail through it.   How you tell smail about that I don't know.

> What gives? The only reason I'm trying to set this up is so that
> things like cron jobs will send email to root, as advertised. 

Most things of that sort will use /usr/sbin/sendmail rather than SMTP 
to inject mail, bypassing this check.

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Re: Background mail transfers

[Mark Brown]

On Wed, Jul 19, 2000 at 06:55:59AM +0100, Pap Tibor wrote:

> And how do you post news messages? Does leafnode do this yob for you too?

Yes, Leafnode will post messages.  Basically, what it does is to look
like a standard news server to local readers and look like a regular
news client to the server it fetches news from.

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Re: Background mail transfers

[Mark Brown]

On Wed, Jul 19, 2000 at 08:01:20PM +0100, Barry Samuels wrote:

> So I suspect that having chopped off Fetchmail's download leaving half an
> e-mail I subsequently re-booted into OS/2 and downloaded the mail.  This
> would have then deleted the mail from the server so that the next time the
> mail server was checked using Fetchmail the e-mail as mentioned above was
> no longer there.

Fetchmail shouldn't have noticed that - all it works with is the mailbox
at your ISP.  If the message was being downloaded and the connection
went away it should just drop what it had got on the floor.

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Can't compile pcnet_cs

[Jens Helweg]

Hi,

I am trying to get my PCMCIA networkcard up and running. It came with a
disk that includes
a driver for that card: pcnet_cs
The pcnet_cs.c on the disk looks different than the one that I have in
/lib/modules/2.2.15 - so I need
to compile it. According to the README (for compiling that module) I
only need the Kernel
sources and the PCMCIA sources. I've downloaded and installed the
appropriate versions
(Kernel 2.2.15 PCMCIA 3.1.8) but I can't compile it.

I compiled the driver before on a SuSE linux system without a problem,
but unfortunately I
neither have the module nor the old SuSE system.



When I execute: make all   I get the following error:

gcc -O2 -DMODULE -D__KERNEL__ -DKINGMAX -c -O6 -I/usr/src/linux
-I/usr/src/pcmcia-cs-3.1.8//include -I/usr/src/linux
-I/usr/src/linux/drivers/net -I/usr/src/kernel-headers-2.2.15/ -I. -o
pcnet_cs.o pcnet_cs.c
In file included from /usr/include/linux/fs.h:262,
 from /usr/include/linux/capability.h:13,
 from /usr/include/linux/binfmts.h:5,
 from /usr/include/linux/sched.h:8,
 from pcnet_cs.c:35:
/usr/include/linux/hpfs_fs_i.h:5: parse error before `ino_t'
/usr/include/linux/hpfs_fs_i.h:5: warning: no semicolon at end of struct
or union
/usr/include/linux/hpfs_fs_i.h:12: parse error before `:'
In file included from /usr/include/linux/fs.h:264,
 from /usr/include/linux/capability.h:13,
 from /usr/include/linux/binfmts.h:5,
 from /usr/include/linux/sched.h:8,
 from pcnet_cs.c:35:
/usr/include/linux/msdos_fs_i.h:36: parse error before `off_t'
/usr/include/linux/msdos_fs_i.h:36: warning: no semicolon at end of
struct or union
In file included from /usr/include/linux/fs.h:265,
 from /usr/include/linux/capability.h:13,
 from /usr/include/linux/binfmts.h:5,
 from /usr/include/linux/sched.h:8,
 from pcnet_cs.c:35:



And this is going on a while. I'm assuming that I am missing something
because it
worked before on a SuSE system and I've installed Debian for the first
time
a couple of days ago.

Thx for any help...

Jens

Re: Debian + Windows98 on the same large disk problem

[I. Tura]

Hello Dimitris,

I had the exact same problem as you.

The action you and me did wrong is to create FAT partitions with a Linux
program. In the fdisk docs it tells that if you want to do a partition for
the OS "A", use the partition program from the OS "A". I could not solve
that situation so I had to wipe out again the whole disk and then do the
FAT partition with M$ fdisk and the ext2 partitions with GNU fdisk.

Also please check if your BIOS includes "Access disk for this, or that 
OS"
when you partition. Phoenix 4.0 BIOS, in this or that "Access disk" option
makes GNU fdisk to report different values!


Good luck,

Ignasi



At 17.30 18/7/00 +0100, Dimitris Dracopoulos ha escrit:
>Hi,
>
>I have recently got a new hard disk 40GB, in which I decided to install both
>Windows98 and Debian, FreeBSD. 
>(I never wanted to install this Win98 stuff on my machine but job matters
>force...)
>
>I repartitioned the hard disk using slink Debian's cfdisk into a first FAT32
>partition of 12GB and 3 more partitions (second is 12GB BSD, and the other
>two, 10 and 5GB Linux). For the cfdisk to work properly with my large disk,
>I had to specify the disk geometry that FreeBSD's fdisk returned to me.
>
>Following that I installed Windows98 on the first partition of 12GB. I
>checked with the Windows98 fdisk program, and indeed it finds the 4
>partitions mentioning that the 3 last ones are non-DOS. 
>
>The problem is that when I use the Windows explorer to see what is the
>available space for my C drive (FAT32 partition), I get that available for C
>are 39GB, i.e. the whole of my hard disk and not just the FAT32 partition.
>Despite that, it reports the C volume label to be the same name as that
>reported by the Windows98 fdisk!
>
>So, I wonder what is happening? Is it just a bug in the Windows Explorer or
>the actual Windows will expand further than their allocated 12GB partition
>when they have no space and delete my Debian and FreeBSD stuff when I
>install them there?
>
>Has anyone installed both Debian and Windows98 on the same large disk and
>came across anything similar?
>
>
>Cheers
>
>Dimitris
> 
>
>
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stop X autobooting & gnome file manager trick?

[mhf]

Hello debian-user,

Issue 1:  I can't figure out how to stop default windows manager
((fvwm)) from automatically starting upon boot into linux.  I simply
want to start from a shell and then enter "startx" when I want to get
into a GUI.  I've tried to open up "inittab" to see about changing a
"5" to a "3" somewhere amidst all the command lines---((thought I read that
from another post)) but I can't figure it out.  There  are many
command lines in there and I don't know what they do, or refer to.

If it would be helpful to see my inittab file, I'll post it.  Just
didn't want to irritate folks with an inordinately long post.

Issue 2:  I can't get the Gnome Graphical File Manager placed onto the
startup bar.  It's the strangest thing.  I go to the Gnome Menu Editor
and there it is.  Properties has it titled as "File Manager," the
description line says it is  "Graphical File Manager," and the
application command line is filled in as "gmc."  It even has an icon
properly asssociated to it.  Nonetheless, I can't get the thing placed
onto the Gnome startup bar so that I can use it.  Help, I'm totally
stumped!

Issue 3:  Can anyone suggest a good link to get me started in
configuring my Hewlett-Packard Deskjet 820C to print on my stand-alone
computer.  Or, if there's good documentation that comes with the
Debian 2.1 Slink installation that I haven't been able to locate,
please point me there.

Thank you for your time and patience.

Mike


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Re: Can't compile pcnet_cs

[Chanop Silpa-Anan]

Once upon a time, I heard Jens Helweg say

> Hi,
> 
> I am trying to get my PCMCIA networkcard up and running. It came with a
> disk that includes
> a driver for that card: pcnet_cs
> The pcnet_cs.c on the disk looks different than the one that I have in
> /lib/modules/2.2.15 - so I need
> to compile it. According to the README (for compiling that module) I
> only need the Kernel
> sources and the PCMCIA sources. I've downloaded and installed the
> appropriate versions
> (Kernel 2.2.15 PCMCIA 3.1.8) but I can't compile it.
> 
> I compiled the driver before on a SuSE linux system without a problem,
> but unfortunately I
> neither have the module nor the old SuSE system.
> 
> 
> 
> When I execute: make all   I get the following error:
> 
> gcc -O2 -DMODULE -D__KERNEL__ -DKINGMAX -c -O6 -I/usr/src/linux
> -I/usr/src/pcmcia-cs-3.1.8//include -I/usr/src/linux
> -I/usr/src/linux/drivers/net -I/usr/src/kernel-headers-2.2.15/ -I. -o
> pcnet_cs.o pcnet_cs.c
> In file included from /usr/include/linux/fs.h:262,
>  from /usr/include/linux/capability.h:13,
>  from /usr/include/linux/binfmts.h:5,
>  from /usr/include/linux/sched.h:8,
>  from pcnet_cs.c:35:
> /usr/include/linux/hpfs_fs_i.h:5: parse error before `ino_t'
> /usr/include/linux/hpfs_fs_i.h:5: warning: no semicolon at end of struct
> or union
> /usr/include/linux/hpfs_fs_i.h:12: parse error before `:'
> In file included from /usr/include/linux/fs.h:264,
>  from /usr/include/linux/capability.h:13,
>  from /usr/include/linux/binfmts.h:5,
>  from /usr/include/linux/sched.h:8,
>  from pcnet_cs.c:35:
> /usr/include/linux/msdos_fs_i.h:36: parse error before `off_t'
> /usr/include/linux/msdos_fs_i.h:36: warning: no semicolon at end of
> struct or union
> In file included from /usr/include/linux/fs.h:265,
>  from /usr/include/linux/capability.h:13,
>  from /usr/include/linux/binfmts.h:5,
>  from /usr/include/linux/sched.h:8,
>  from pcnet_cs.c:35:
> 

From the error reported here, I think you should put
-I/usr/src/kernel-headers-2.2.15/include instead of just plain
-I/usr/src/kernel-headers-2.2.15

I can see that gcc try to use linux header files from glibc
/usr/include/linux instead of those in the kernel
/usr/src/kernel-headers-2.2.15/include/linux which mighe be needed for
your pcmcia_cs.c.

many other distributions ship glibc with linux header file /usr/src/linux as
a symlink to /usr/src/linux/inlcude/linux, including RedHat.

> And this is going on a while. I'm assuming that I am missing something
> because it
> worked before on a SuSE system and I've installed Debian for the first
> time
> a couple of days ago.

I think SuSE does the same thing.


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Re: stop X autobooting & gnome file manager trick?

[Mike Werner]

mhf wrote:
> Hello debian-user,
> 
> Issue 1:  I can't figure out how to stop default windows manager
> ((fvwm)) from automatically starting upon boot into linux.  I simply
> want to start from a shell and then enter "startx" when I want to get
> into a GUI.  I've tried to open up "inittab" to see about changing a
> "5" to a "3" somewhere amidst all the command lines---((thought I read that
> from another post)) but I can't figure it out.  There  are many
> command lines in there and I don't know what they do, or refer to.
> 
> If it would be helpful to see my inittab file, I'll post it.  Just
> didn't want to irritate folks with an inordinately long post.

apt-get --purge remove gdm

> Issue 2:  I can't get the Gnome Graphical File Manager placed onto the
> startup bar.  It's the strangest thing.  I go to the Gnome Menu Editor
> and there it is.  Properties has it titled as "File Manager," the
> description line says it is  "Graphical File Manager," and the
> application command line is filled in as "gmc."  It even has an icon
> properly asssociated to it.  Nonetheless, I can't get the thing placed
> onto the Gnome startup bar so that I can use it.  Help, I'm totally
> stumped!

Startup bar?  Not sure what you mean by that.  If you are referring to the
Gnome Panel (the long thingy along the bottom of the screen), then:
1) Right-click on the Panel
2) Find the app you want in the menus
3) There should be a little box with three periods in it after the name of
the app
4) Click that box
5) Click the option of "Add this launcher to panel"
 
> Issue 3:  Can anyone suggest a good link to get me started in
> configuring my Hewlett-Packard Deskjet 820C to print on my stand-alone
> computer.  Or, if there's good documentation that comes with the
> Debian 2.1 Slink installation that I haven't been able to locate,
> please point me there.

Start with:
http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=61568
Beyond that, I'll have to pass.  Printing isn't something I know a whole lot
about.
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how to install a fake package?

[Mike Johnson]

I currently use debian2.2 , And I used Corel's CorelExploer And I want to be
able to use it in debian. but When i use apt to install it , it gives me
this error.

Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
  kde-corel: Depends: libapt-pkg2.5

I ln libapt-pkg2.5 to libapt-pkg2.7 and ran ldconfig and still didnt work.
I was wondering if theres a way to install a fake package?
thanks
Mike Johnson