Re: need help with ip-forwarding

[Alberto Rodríguez Ortega]

1- Recompile de kernel for supporting additional MASQ-modules
2- add the module port-forwarding (as module or part of the kernel) and 
recompile (reset etc)

3- add a ipchains ACCEPT entry for the port 80 on your firewall box
4- add the rule for redirecting the port.

IMPORTANT: u will not can test the instalation, i mean, if u try to connect 
to the extip:80 u will no be redirected, ONLY packets from which becoming 
from the external interface will be redirected. It's a fail (or not, i dont 
know) of port-redirect. Just try it from a external system or tell to a boy 
about for cheking your redirection.


A SHORT EXAMPLE:

   #!/bin/bash
   # Initial Conf
   extint="eth0"
   extip="`/sbin/ifconfig eth0 | grep 'inet addr' | awk '{print $2}' | sed 
-e's/.*://'`"

   wwwip="192.168.1.10"
   IPCHAINS="/sbin/ipchains"
   PORTFW="/usr/sbin/ipmasqadm portfw"
   # accept rule for port-forw
   $IPCHAINS -A input -p tcp -s 0/0 -i $extint -d $extip 80 -j ACCEPT
   # Place for ACCEPT rules (add ACCEPT for ftp ... etc , all services u 
want opened)

   ...
   # Place for DENY/REJECT rules (just cut :1023 ;) and some uppers (nfs 
etc) if u have)

   ...
   #Place for MASQ/Forwd rules
   ...
   # port-forwd rules
   $PORTFW -a -P tcp -L $extip 80 -R $wwwip 80

At 21.53 28/6/00 -0700, Nick wrote:

this is my situation:

i have a linux box running 2.1, 2.2.15 with a dhcp service and ipmasq 
through ipchains


i wanna setup a webserver inside the network and have the http port 
forwarded through my firewall.


if i have ipchains i just need ipportfw right?  but dselect insists that i 
install ipmasq too?


how can i do this another way, or is this the only way???

outside ip - linux box (need to forward IP traffic for port 80) -- 
webserver (192.168.1.10)


thankx in advance
-nick

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Re: telnet vs ^Z

[Alberto Rodríguez Ortega]

Hi Will,

At 13.23 29/6/00 -0500, Will Trillich wrote:

i've got linux in the basement, cranking and serving
like a dream. to administer, i'm upstairs and i get
in via telnet on my local 192.168.*.* intranet.

on the console (linux keyboard/mouse/monitor) i can
use ^Z to suspend a foreground job, just like in the
documentation.

but ^Z seems to be ignored when i get in via telnet
even tho stty shows 'susp = ^Z'.


i'm a bit lost,
   r u trying to sup the telnet or just a aplication on the server where u 
are connected via telnet?


Have u cheked the binding at the remote server?
Are u using 'screen'? If u r using a aplication which is getting al your 
keyboard controled (up the the shell) take care with that.



now in know that tcsh has command-line settings that
can override stty items, such as '^W = werase' but
there's nothing i can see (perhaps i'm blind) that
would alter ^Z for suspend.

what's interfering?

% bindkey | grep Z
"^Z"   ->  tty-sigtsusp
"^[^Z" -> run-fg-editor

% stty -a
speed 9600 baud; rows 32; columns 132; line = 0;
intr = ^C; quit = ^\; erase = ^D; eol = ; eol2 = ;
start = ^Q; stop = ^S; susp = ^Z; rprnt = ^R;
werase = ^W; lnext = ^V; flush = ^O; min = 1; time = 0;
-parenb -parodd cs8 -hupcl -cstopb cread -clocal -crtscts
-ignbrk -brkint -ignpar -parmrk -inpck -istrip -inlcr
-igncr icrnl ixon -ixoff -iuclc -ixany -imaxbel
opost -olcuc -ocrnl onlcr -onocr -onlret -ofill
-ofdel nl0 cr0 tab0 bs0 vt0 ff0
isig icanon iexten echo echoe echok -echonl -noflsh
-xcase -tostop -echoprt echoctl echoke

% printenv
REMOTEHOST=jonathon
TERM=vt220
HZ=100
HOME=/home/will
SHELL=/usr/bin/tcsh
PATH=/usr/lib/postgresql/bin/:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin
USER=will
LOGNAME=will
MAIL=/var/spool/mail/will
LANG=C
HUSHLOGIN=FALSE
HOSTTYPE=i386-linux
VENDOR=intel
OSTYPE=linux
MACHTYPE=i386
SHLVL=1
PWD=/var/www/agf
GROUP=serensoft
HOST=server
EDITOR=vi
HOSTNAME=server
HISTSIZE=1000
HISTFILESIZE=1000
LESS=-M-Q-s
LESSEDIT=%E ?lt+%lt. %f
LESSOPEN=| lesspipe %s
VISUAL=vi
LESSCHARSET=latin1
PAGER=less


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Re: FTP server and security

[Alberto Rodríguez Ortega]

I dont wanna create a discution which this, but proftpd is better at 
security and all that ftpd.

I would like (personality) too more than wu-ftpd, anyway that is only my point.

1- Well, using ftpd u need add a entry on /etc/inetd.conf, check if u have 
already one comented there.
2- proftpd works (ussualy) as a daemon standalone. Anyway u can change the 
base instalation for getting this one controled via inetd


Seeya

At 12.27 29/6/00 -0700, Jay Kelly wrote:

Hello Group,
I want to enable my potato box as a ftp server, I have removed proftpd
and installed ftpd. I remember when install debian I said no to
start the FTP server. Where do I enable this to start the server at
boot time? Also is it true the enabling the ftp server will open
up my server for attacks? How much security will be lost doing this?
I want to enable anonymous login so I link my web to the ftp server.
I read the man pages anf there is very little on setting this up.
Thanks Guys for all your help.
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Sound (AD 1881)

[Patrick Barr]

Ok, now, I've just "upgraded" my machine (ASUS CUV4X-M with a celeron 
500) and find that I cant get sound to work no matter what I try.

It has a built-in AD (ADI??) 1881 chipset. should I use ALSA for this 
one??? has anyone had any luck with these motherboards or these chips?

ALSO. someone told me (on #linux @ irc.xchat.org) that it was a Crystal 
CS4299. both chips dont have support on kernel 2.2.15

can anyone help me on this??

pat

Re: telnet vs ^Z

[Will Trillich]

On Fri, Jun 30, 2000 at 09:17:46AM +0200, Alberto Rodríguez Ortega wrote:
> Hi Will,
> 
> At 13.23 29/6/00 -0500, Will Trillich wrote:
> >i've got linux in the basement, cranking and serving
> >like a dream. to administer, i'm upstairs and i get
> >in via telnet on my local 192.168.*.* intranet.
> >
> >on the console (linux keyboard/mouse/monitor) i can
> >use ^Z to suspend a foreground job, just like in the
> >documentation.
> >
> >but ^Z seems to be ignored when i get in via telnet
> >even tho stty shows 'susp = ^Z'.
> 
> i'm a bit lost,
> r u trying to sup the telnet or just a aplication on the server where u 
> are connected via telnet?

yes, i was a bit unclear on that point. heh.

i'm trying to get my telnet session to behave as if
i was at the console: if i'm in VI i wanna be able to ^Z
to get to the shell prompt.

my telnet client is running on a mac, which has no
clue about suspend/fg/bg. :)

i want the remote (linux server) full-screen process
(mutt, vi, etc) to suspend when i send ^Z, despite the
fact that i'm using telnet, and not sitting at the
console.

hell, i just tried it from the perl debugger, which
doesn't even use curses/ncurses for its dialogue,
and ^Z blinks the screen there, too, with no
suspend signal being sent to the job.

"i want my control-Z!" (waaah!)


> Have u cheked the binding at the remote server?
> Are u using 'screen'? If u r using a aplication which is getting al your 
> keyboard controled (up the the shell) take care with that.

so, yes, all the settings below are from the server.
(ask a mac what an environmental variable is, and
you get deaf silence. comes from being a single-user
environment.)


> >now i know that tcsh has command-line settings that
> >can override stty items, such as '^W = werase' but
> >there's nothing i can see (perhaps i'm blind) that
> >would alter ^Z for suspend.
> >
> >what's interfering?
> >
> >% bindkey | grep Z
> >"^Z"   ->  tty-sigtsusp
> >"^[^Z" -> run-fg-editor
> >
> >% stty -a
> >speed 9600 baud; rows 32; columns 132; line = 0;
> >intr = ^C; quit = ^\; erase = ^D; eol = ; eol2 = ;
> >start = ^Q; stop = ^S; susp = ^Z; rprnt = ^R;
> >werase = ^W; lnext = ^V; flush = ^O; min = 1; time = 0;
> >-parenb -parodd cs8 -hupcl -cstopb cread -clocal -crtscts
> >-ignbrk -brkint -ignpar -parmrk -inpck -istrip -inlcr
> >-igncr icrnl ixon -ixoff -iuclc -ixany -imaxbel
> >opost -olcuc -ocrnl onlcr -onocr -onlret -ofill
> >-ofdel nl0 cr0 tab0 bs0 vt0 ff0
> >isig icanon iexten echo echoe echok -echonl -noflsh
> >-xcase -tostop -echoprt echoctl echoke
> >
> >% printenv
> >REMOTEHOST=jonathon
> >TERM=vt220
> >HZ=100
> >HOME=/home/will
> >SHELL=/usr/bin/tcsh
> >PATH=/usr/lib/postgresql/bin/:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin
> >USER=will
> >LOGNAME=will
> >MAIL=/var/spool/mail/will
> >LANG=C
> >HUSHLOGIN=FALSE
> >HOSTTYPE=i386-linux
> >VENDOR=intel
> >OSTYPE=linux
> >MACHTYPE=i386
> >SHLVL=1
> >PWD=/var/www/agf
> >GROUP=serensoft
> >HOST=server
> >EDITOR=vi
> >HOSTNAME=server
> >HISTSIZE=1000
> >HISTFILESIZE=1000
> >LESS=-M-Q-s
> >LESSEDIT=%E ?lt+%lt. %f
> >LESSOPEN=| lesspipe %s
> >VISUAL=vi
> >LESSCHARSET=latin1
> >PAGER=less
> >
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Re: free Internet access

[Michalowski Thierry]

Well,
did you ever notice that you don't give us at least a clue of where you live?
Even your mail address is a .net, which doensn't help either.
So, I might say there is one cool ISP in Australia or in Switzerland and that
probably won't help you if you live in Argentina...


Jaye Inabnit ke6sls wrote:

>  Hello,
>
> I recall many months ago that there was an ISP allowing linux users to
> use the free internet access as long as we set our "home" to there
> main page What was that provider? I need temporary access until
> I can find an affordabe DSL provider willing to provide a static IP.
>
> Thank you
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Changing SU's password ?

[Oliver Schoenknecht]

Hey everyone,

although this questions seems to be quite dumb : How may I 
change the password of the Super User (su) under Linux ?

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Re: Sound (AD 1881)

[Patrick Barr]

On Sat, 01 Jul 2000 04:25:27 Patrick Barr wrote:
> 
> Ok, now, I've just "upgraded" my machine (ASUS CUV4X-M with a celeron 
> 500) and find that I cant get sound to work no matter what I try.
> 
> It has a built-in AD (ADI??) 1881 chipset. should I use ALSA for this 
> one??? has anyone had any luck with these motherboards or these chips?
> 
> ALSO. someone told me (on #linux @ irc.xchat.org) that it was a Crystal 
> CS4299. both chips dont have support on kernel 2.2.15
> 
> can anyone help me on this??
> 
> pat

oh yea. just something from /proc/pci :-

  Bus  0, device   4, function  5:
Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies Unknown device (rev 
32).
  Vendor id=1106. Device id=3058.
  Medium devsel.  IRQ 5.  
  I/O at 0xa800 [0xa801].
  I/O at 0xa400 [0xa401].
  I/O at 0xa000 [0xa001].

hope that helps

pat

Re: Changing SU's password ?

[Michalowski Thierry]

fast answer:

passwd root

longer answer:

su
passwd

even longer answer:
"su" is the name of the program that stands for "Swap User" . You can use it to 
swap
your current user to whatever other user that is defined on your system (check 
"man
su").
The SuperUser on a Unix system is named "root" . Yeah, the most initial part of 
the
filesystem is, too.
Note you can create as many superusers on your system as you do want, by adding 
users
with UID=0 in your passwd database. But that's probably something you would 
want to
do for 2 reasons only:
1. Changing the default shell of your "interactive" superuser sessions without
interfering with programs which want a special "standard" shell as the root's 
shell
2. Having a rescue superuser account at hand in case of problems with the first 
one.

HTH


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>
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> change the password of the Super User (su) under Linux ?
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Re: free books on C in Unix and X programming using Athena widget

[Preben Randhol]

David Z Maze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 29/06/2000 (18:02) :
> a  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> a> Do you know any web site that has free books on C programming in
> a> Linix and X programming using Athena widget?
> 
> I'd recommend against using the so-called Athena Widget Kit; it looks
> ugly and it's hard to program in.  Many Linux developers these days
> use the GIMP Toolkit, Gtk+, for GUI programming; details on it can be
> found at http://www.gtk.org/.

And a free book on GTK+ is here

   http://developer.gnome.org/doc/GGAD/ggad.html

But I would also recommend against C. I would recommend that you instead
look at Ada 95. It is a much better and safer language. More information
can be found here:

   http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/ada.html
   http://www.adapower.com/
   http://gtkada.eu.org/

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Re: REPOST: ypserv consumes giant amounts of memory???

[Ralf G. R. Bergs]

On Tue, 27 Jun 2000 15:41:04 -0500, Jens B. Jorgensen wrote:

>> Since I installed a NIS master server a few days ago my system often 
comes
>> to a crawl by excessive memory use of the NIS server (ypserv.)
>>
>> I can (sort of) reproduce it by issuing "ypwhich -m" from the box itself 
or
>> another machine in my LAN which is just a NIS client. Suddenly there are
>> several copies of ypserv in the process list which consume ridiculous
>> amounts of memory and cause the machine to start swapping excessively,
>> bringing it to a crawl.
>
>I haven't seen this problem with NIS under debian before (I have set up an 
NIS server
>in debian as well as in SunOS 4.1.3). Is there perhaps something wrong with 
your data?

I don't think so. The configuration of a NIS server is a rather trivial 
thing. I think both my configuration files and my maps are sane. And even if 
there WAS a problem within the files, ypserv shouldn't run amok, should it?

>I don't know why so many servers would be spawned. That's really weird so 
many
>ypserv's are being started. If you wanted you could run ypserv under strace 
perhaps to
>see what it's doing before it forks.

Ok, this is something that I could at least *try*, altho I doubt that it 
will help

Let's see, should I find the cause for my problem I will report them here. 
Of course further suggestions as to what the problem could be are still 
welcome up to this point. :-)


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Re: Newbie: How to get XFree... to work on my Compaq PC Ver. OF15; Model 1200-XL119

[Darlock]

On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, Steve Voelkel wrote:

  I'd really appreciate some help: can't get X (graphics) to work on the
  above machine.
  Struggled through and finally got a largish set of packages installed
  but can't get my graphics to work.  I guess it's because it doesn't
  recognize my chipset.  Here are data the manual (O'Reilly) asks for on
  pp. 3-4:
  Hard drive: 6007MB; Toshiba MK6014MAP; IDE; Set for LBA Mode? (Large
  disk
  Access Mode= DOS... guess answer is NO.)
  ATAPI CD-ROM; IDE Nec CD-Rom DRive: 282 CDROM; Firmware Rev. 5.12
  Mouse: Snynaptics PS/2 TouchPad with IBM Model 001 M-L plugged into
  keyboard/
  mouse port; 2 buttons
  Video Adapter (= Graphics Controller?): Trident CyberBlade i7 with 4MB
  video RAM
  I don't mind further reading of docs. if you can point to help (I've
  been reading for about four wees now);  Problem seems associated with
  configuring XFree... but I don't know how/whether the chipset is
  recognized/workable.
  Thanks a million for any help.

I think the first step is to execute SuperProve, that checks the current
video graphics adapter and give you a lot of usefull information.

Second you can send to the list the logs of X:

$ X > logfile.log 2>&1
  
With the X logs and the SuperProbe results I'm sure you'll configure the X
or will help us to help you.
  
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Any FREE tool to display pdflatex created PDF slides in debian?

[Wojtek Zabolotny]

Hi All,

I'm used to prepare my presentations in LaTeX. The pdflatex is a very good
tool to prepare slides for both - projection monitors and traditional
photographic slides. There is however one problem, although I can use
to display my slides almost any platform supporting the Acrobat Reader,
I'd rather prefere to use a free tool. Unfortunately both "xpdf" and 
"ghostscript" (even with "gv") fail to display "full screen" slides
correctly.
Does anybody know if there is such free tool (or a particular version of
mentioned above) able to display PDF slides in "full screen" mode?

PS. I use "pdfslide" package, slightly modified do remove the "navigation 
pannel" on the right.
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Re: Exim and an annoyong person

[Chuan-kai Lin]

Patrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> But can named individuals be barred?

If you believe that the individual in question will always use the
same email address in the sender line, then you can do it:

sender_reject = [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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kdm User List ?

[Oliver Schoenknecht]

Hey everyone,

in my KDM-login-screen I've got two users available, let's call them 
"root" and "test". Well then, how may I add and / or delete users 
on this list ?

Thanks in advance !

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RE: Postgresql 7.02 and Debian

[Bill Barnes]

>= Original Message From jpb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> =
>
>Try apt-get update again.  It looks like you had network congestion when
>you tried before. Or you can just use ftp and go to ftp.us.debian.org
>and manually grab the postgresql source files (the .diff.gz, .dsc &
>.orig.tar.gz) and use dbuild to extract them.
>
>jpb

Finally got a clean run.  Had to do it in the wee hours.
Fetched postgresql okay.

Missing files in the compile.
The log follows.  Snipped out all the good makes.  This was a second run.

>>>
Script started on Fri Jun 30 04:54:05 2000
kgb10:/home/billb/postgresql-7.0.2# ./debian/rules binary
cd src/interfaces/perl5 && \

POSTGRES_HOME=/home/billb/postgresql-7.0.2/debian/tmp/usr/lib/postgresql \
INSTALLDIRS=perl
INSTALLMAN1DIR=/home/billb/postgresql-7.0.2/debian/libpgperl/usr/share/man/man
1
INSTALLMAN3DIR=/home/billb/postgresql-7.0.2/debian/libpgperl/usr/share/man/man
3
INSTALLPRIVLIB=/home/billb/postgresql-7.0.2/debian/libpgperl/usr/lib/perl5
INSTALLARCHLIB=/home/billb/postgresql-7.0.2/debian/libpgperl`/usr/bin/perl
-MConfig -e 'print $Config{installarchlib}'` \
/usr/bin/perl Makefile.PL && \
touch perl-config
Unrecognized argument in LIBS ignored: '-fpic'
Writing Makefile for Pg
dh_testdir
dh_installdirs
echo doctmp is
/home/billb/postgresql-7.0.2/debian/postgresql-doc/usr/share/doc/postgresql-do
c
doctmp is
/home/billb/postgresql-7.0.2/debian/postgresql-doc/usr/share/doc/postgresql-do
c
cd src  && make all 2>&1 |\
tee -a /tmp/postgresql.JMYmQP



make -C libpgtcl all
make[3]: Entering directory 
`/home/billb/postgresql-7.0.2/src/interfaces/libpgtcl'
gcc -I../../include -I../../backend   -O2 -g -g3 -Wall -Wmissing-prototypes
-Wmissing-declarations -I../../backend -I../../include
-I../../interfaces/libpq -fpic   -c -o pgtcl.o pgtcl.c
In file included from pgtcl.c:19:
libpgtcl.h:19: tcl.h: No such file or directory
In file included from pgtcl.c:20:
pgtclCmds.h:17: tcl.h: No such file or directory
make[3]: *** [pgtcl.o] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory 
`/home/billb/postgresql-7.0.2/src/interfaces/libpgtcl'
make[2]: *** [all] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/billb/postgresql-7.0.2/src/interfaces'
make[1]: *** [all] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/billb/postgresql-7.0.2/src'
make: *** [build-stamp] Error 1
kgb10:/home/billb/postgresql-7.0.2# exit

Script done on Fri Jun 30 04:54:32 2000

Hope that I didn't cut out something significant.

Very much appreciate the feedback.  Looking forward to the day I will be in a
position to offer support instead of questions.

Regards,
Bill Barnes


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>CREOL System Administrator
>
>Social graces are the packet headers of everyday life.

Re: kdm User List ?

[dyer]

Oliver Schoenknecht wrote:

> Hey everyone,
>
> in my KDM-login-screen I've got two users available, let's call them
> "root" and "test". Well then, how may I add and / or delete users
> on this list ?
>
> Thanks in advance !
>

Log in to kde as root. Open the KDE Control Center. Go to Applications, then 
Login
Manager.

dyer

Re: X Fonts

[dyer]

Marcio Rosa da Silva wrote:

> Hi!
>
> I installed debian on my laptop (yes, I know that there is a laptop list,
> but I think the topic is more general) and I had a problem.
>
> The default font in X (used in netscape and jpilot) are too big. It's good
> when you use 1024x768 resolution, but my laptop only supports 800x600.
>
> I looked for the file to change this behavior, but couldn't solve the
> problem.
>
> So, how can I change this?
>

In your XF86Config file, swap the 75dpi and 100dpi lines so that 75dpi comes 
first.

FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled"

dyer

RE: free Internet access

[Jonathan Markevich]

However, we were discussing freewwweb before.  I'm using it now... for 
temporary use, it's fine, other than that it's trash.  I haven't been able to 
send out mail using SMTP for about two months now.

NetZero has a Linux client now, though.  I'm tempted to try it.

Oh, and you might be interested in Freexdsl -- I don't know if it's Wingdings 
based or not...

>= Original Message From Michalowski Thierry 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> =
>Well,
>did you ever notice that you don't give us at least a clue of where you live?
>Even your mail address is a .net, which doensn't help either.
>So, I might say there is one cool ISP in Australia or in Switzerland and that
>probably won't help you if you live in Argentina...
>
>
>Jaye Inabnit ke6sls wrote:
>
>>  Hello,
>>
>> I recall many months ago that there was an ISP allowing linux users to
>> use the free internet access as long as we set our "home" to there
>> main page What was that provider? I need temporary access until
>> I can find an affordabe DSL provider willing to provide a static IP.
>>
>> Thank you

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Re: free Internet access

[David Wright]

Quoting Michalowski Thierry ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> Well,
> did you ever notice that you don't give us at least a clue of where you live?
> Even your mail address is a .net, which doensn't help either.
> So, I might say there is one cool ISP in Australia or in Switzerland and that
> probably won't help you if you live in Argentina...

Well here's one clue:

> > M.J. Inabnit, KE6SLS e-mail  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 707-442-6579 h/m 707-441-7096 p

Eureka! The person is probably from Northern California and doesn't know
the country's dialling code, or hasn't realised that these posts travel
to readers in other countries.

What the h/m and p mean, I have no idea.

Cheers,

-- 
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Snail:  David Wright, Earth Science Dept., Milton Keynes, England, MK7 6AA
Disclaimer:   These addresses are only for reaching me, and do not signify
official stationery. Views expressed here are either my own or plagiarised.

Need help with installing Debian on a COMPAC PRESARIO 5716

[Preben Randhol]

I'm now going to install debian on a third machine. So far everything
has gone nice, but the third machine is a bit troublesome.

It is a COMPAC PRESARIO 5716. The problem is that this machine shows a
big red Q at startup and no BIOS info. I therefore do not know which
keys to press to access the BIOS in order to turn on CD-ROM booting. It
currently boots from floppy first before hard disc. 

So is it possible to make one or perhaps two floppy boot discs that
could boot it up and the switch to do the rest of the installation from
the CDs I have of Potato TC 2 ?

I don't want to install RedHat as it is my fathers machine and he is no
computer expert. apt-get/dselect is much easier to use than rpm.

-- 
Preben Randhol -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- 
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| ! |  superiority of the male, except his superior muscle."
+---+  -- Bertrand Russell, Ideas That Have Harmed Mankind (1950)

Re: Cheap printer?

[Antonio Rodriguez]

Same happenned to me, I have a HP Deskjet 540, whenever I've tried other 
cartridge
than the HP, I get into deep trouble. Wht laser printers do you guys recomend?

Bill Barnes wrote:

> FWIW
> Got into a tangle on another mailing list regarding inks, but here goes
> anyway.
>
> I buy Amazon inks for my Epson Stylus 800 and had no problems until I tried
> bulk ink and refilling cartridges.  Print quality went south and is recovering
> with a return to new cartridges, but still not up to snuff.
>
> Ditto for a friend of mine with a Canon.
>
> Bill Barnes
>
> >= Original Message From Harald Thingelstad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> =
> >On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, Vicente Torres wrote:
> >...
> >> So, I must return it and buy another printer.
> >> Wich one would you recommend to me?
> >> It must be cheap; I do not want to use color on my printings
> >> and it must work fine with linux.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >
> >First: What kind of a cheap printer do you want?
> >The inkjet printers are known to be cheap to buy, but they charge a leg
> >and an arm for the ink.
> >Some manufacturers are known to sell their printers with a net *loss*,
> >earning their money on ink alone. Let's say you have to change the
> >cartridges twice a year, for keeping them from drying out alone, and I
> >guess you have paid the printer over again in two years!
> >
> >Nope, if you're not interested in colors, buy a laser. The cartridges are
> >perhaps even more expensive, but they last many times longer.
> >
> >You can, of course, get refiller ink for both types, and this makes inkjet
> >printers look a little brighter. Be sure to find a place where you
> >actually can *buy* this sort of stuff, as I'm sure original ink pays the
> >shops better and the printer manufacturers shun no means of telling you
> >unoriginal ink might destroy your printer. ("Fat chance!", in many cases.)
> >Anyway.
> >Buy the next cheapest you can get, the absolute cheapest ones tend to be
> >money out your window.
> >
> >Second:
> >What type of printer?
> >Check the compatibility lists.
> >This means, the "Hardware HOWTO" in your HOWTO archive. If you don't have
> >any, install the necessary package(s).
> >
> >Harald
> >
> >Philosophy, law, medicine and even theology, alas! I studied everything with
> >an ardent will and here I am, poor fool, just as far behind as ever.
> >No more advanced than before.
> >Goethe - Faust
> >
> >
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rank newbie - no mouse

[sido]

I installed Debian Linux and everything works great except for X which
looks fine except the mouse doesn't move.  I've re-installed the OS 3
times now and searched for help on the mouse but not come up with much.  I
tried to run mouseconfig but couldn't find it.  

The mouse is a 3-button mouse, manufacturer Digital.  

ls -l  /dev/mouse

/dev/mouse  -> ttyS0

That doesn't seem right to me but I can't figure out how to change it
either.

Thank-you for any assistance.

-Sido

Re: rank newbie - no mouse

[Kerstin Hoef-Emden]

Hi,

On Fri, 30 Jun 2000, sido wrote:

> The mouse is a 3-button mouse, manufacturer Digital.  
> 
> ls -l  /dev/mouse
> 
> /dev/mouse-> ttyS0
> 
> That doesn't seem right to me but I can't figure out how to change it
> either.

The following informations would be useful: 

Debian version
How is the mouse connected - serial or psaux? 
Do you have gpm installed? (Under Debian 2.2 alias potato gpm
configuration is sometimes causing trouble.)

Perhaps you have a look at /etc/gpm.conf and /etc/X11/XF86Config and
tell us the settings. In XF86Config search for Section Pointer.

Besides that: If your mouse is not a serial mouse, ttyS0 would be wrong.
To change a link (as in /dev/mouse -> ttyS0) you need the command "ln"
for link. With "ln -s target linkname" you can create softlinks. Have a
look at the apropriate manpages.


Regards,

Kerstin


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Re: rank newbie - no mouse

[Christophe.Jasiak]

Maybe you'd better run the XFree setup progam?

Is your mouse a serial one or a ps/2 one (maybe usb?)?

Just run  the Xfree config program and select the right mouse... then it
will work.

Why re-installing 3 times for a mouse problem?

Christophe "Mettez un pingouin dans votre PC" Jasiak

- Original Message -
From: "sido" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2000 3:34 PM
Subject: rank newbie - no mouse


>
>
> I installed Debian Linux and everything works great except for X which
> looks fine except the mouse doesn't move.  I've re-installed the OS 3
> times now and searched for help on the mouse but not come up with much.  I
> tried to run mouseconfig but couldn't find it.
>
> The mouse is a 3-button mouse, manufacturer Digital.
>
> ls -l  /dev/mouse
>
> /dev/mouse -> ttyS0
>
> That doesn't seem right to me but I can't figure out how to change it
> either.
>
> Thank-you for any assistance.
>
> -Sido
>
>
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>

Re: Sound (AD 1881)

[David Z Maze]

Patrick Barr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
PB> Ok, now, I've just "upgraded" my machine (ASUS CUV4X-M with a celeron 
PB> 500) and find that I cant get sound to work no matter what I try.
PB> 
PB> It has a built-in AD (ADI??) 1881 chipset. should I use ALSA for this 
PB> one??? has anyone had any luck with these motherboards or these chips?

I just got one (Athlon 750...mmm...), and it seems to work fine under
ALSA.  I'm using the ALSA VIA 686a driver for it; everything got
autodetected fine.

The one thing that doesn't work (that annoys me a little): has anyone
gotten the external MIDI interface to work on this hardware?  I'm
assuming that, like every other sound card since the Sound Blaster,
the on-board joystick port uses two pins for a TTL MIDI interface.  I
have a box to connect two joysticks, a MIDI IN, and a MIDI OUT to the
port, but it doesn't seem to be working on the new machine.  (I should 
test that I didn't break the box recently, but that doesn't seem
likely.)  Any hints?

-- 
David Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://www.mit.edu/~dmaze/
"Theoretical politics is interesting.  Politicking should be illegal."
-- Abra Mitchell

Re: free Internet access

[Pollywog]

On 30-Jun-2000 11:32:35 David Wright wrote:
> Quoting Michalowski Thierry ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
>> Well,
>> did you ever notice that you don't give us at least a clue of
>> where you live?
>> Even your mail address is a .net, which doensn't help either.
>> So, I might say there is one cool ISP in Australia or in
>> Switzerland and that
>> probably won't help you if you live in Argentina...
> 
> Well here's one clue:
> 
>> > M.J. Inabnit, KE6SLS e-mail  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > 707-442-6579 h/m 707-441-7096 p
> 
> Eureka! The person is probably from Northern California and doesn't
> know
> the country's dialling code, or hasn't realised that these posts
> travel
> to readers in other countries.

This phone number is from Eureka, California.  I live in the same
area and I know there is one free provider with an access number in
Blue Lake, a local call for Eureka.  The problem is that they do not
yet offer Linux versions of their software.  The one service that
does offer Linux software has no access number in this area.

--
Andrew

> 
> What the h/m and p mean, I have no idea.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> -- 
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> 655 151
> Snail:  David Wright, Earth Science Dept., Milton Keynes, England,
> MK7 6AA
> Disclaimer:   These addresses are only for reaching me, and do not
> signify
> official stationery. Views expressed here are either my own or
> plagiarised.
> 
> 
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gnuclient vs emacsclient

[Timothy C. Phan]

Hi,

  What is the diff between the two?  I could not get
  gnuclient to work!

  Secondly,  How can I bring a file in as readonly from
  emacsclient or gnuclient?

  TIA!

---
tcp

Re: Helix sawfish and minimizing

[Stuart Ballard]

"Eric G . Miller" wrote:
> 
> Perhaps, the "group windows" option is set in your sawfish
> configuration?  I forget the title of the option exactly, but it sets a
> variable for sawfish telling it to iconify all windows in a group (same
> application).  I've always had that turned off when using saw{mill|fish}
> so I don't know if that's the culprit.

This was it - thanks! It wasn't even confusingly named - it said
"Iconifying a window that is a member of a group iconifies the whole
group" - duh. I guess when I configured that I assumed that a "group"
was a single running application, and didn't mean "all running terminal
windows"...

Thanks for the tip :)
Stuart.

wmaker 0.62 deb package?

[Michael Perry]

Anbyody made a deb package for windowmaker 0.62?  I noticed its been out
awhile but the www.debian.org stuff does not show it whatsoever.

Thanks.

-- 
Michael Perry   
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
--

Re: wmaker 0.62 deb package?

[Preben Randhol]

Michael Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 30/06/2000 (16:23) :
> Anbyody made a deb package for windowmaker 0.62?  I noticed its been out
> awhile but the www.debian.org stuff does not show it whatsoever.

I found the bugs in 0.62 (when I ran RedHat) more annoying than those in
0.61 so I'd wait for 0.63 or higher before I upgrade.

-- 
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+---+ "There was, I think, never any reason to  believe in any innate
| ! |  superiority of the male, except his superior muscle."
+---+  -- Bertrand Russell, Ideas That Have Harmed Mankind (1950)

Re: wmaker 0.62 deb package?

[pseelig]

On Fri, 30 Jun 2000, Michael Perry wrote:

> Anbyody made a deb package for windowmaker 0.62?  I noticed its been out
> awhile but the www.debian.org stuff does not show it whatsoever.
> 
I've made some unofficial debs of the CVS version as of 2000-05-01.  They
are in "ftp://ntama.uni-mainz.de/pub/debian/unofficial/potato/binary/"; and
are based on the debification of the latest official Debian versions. This
is the entry for "/etc/apt/sources.list":

deb ftp://ntama.uni-mainz.de/pub/debian unofficial/

I've actually made far more recent debs of the CVS tree from this weekend,
but have had no chance so far to transfer them to the above mentioned
site. You might as well want to check out the extensive list of unofficial
apt-sources at "http://www.internatif.org/bortzmeyer/debian/apt-sources/";.  
Maybe someone else has already made available more current WMaker debs.

Cheers, P. *8^)
-- 
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   African Music Archive - Institute for Ethnology and Africa Studies
   Johannes Gutenberg-University   -  Forum 6  -  55099 Mainz/Germany
   --- http://ntama.uni-mainz.de 

free c compiler 8051

[A.M]

dear friend 

do u have any free c compiler 8051  to send me or know about it


Best regards 
A.Madinei

Re: Need help with installing Debian on a COMPAC PRESARIO 5716

[Colin Watson]

Preben Randhol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>So is it possible to make one or perhaps two floppy boot discs that
>could boot it up and the switch to do the rest of the installation from
>the CDs I have of Potato TC 2 ?

Yes, this is possible. See the installation manual, for instance the
following sections (recombining each URL onto one line):

  http://www.debian.org/releases/potato/i386/
 ch-install-methods.en.html#s-install-floppies
  http://www.debian.org/releases/potato/i386/
 ch-rescue-boot.en.html#s-features-rescue

-- 
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Re: Need help with installing Debian on a COMPAC PRESARIO 5716

[Gregory Guthrie]

look at the compaq web site, it has online manuals for almost all machines.

Typically for compaq, it boots, tests memory, beeps twice, puts the cursor 
into the upper right hand corner, and at that time you should press F10 to 
enter BIOS.


Also, most compaqs w/in the last 5 years will boot to CDrom, so just put a 
bootable debian disk in and try it, it is an effortless way to install!


Greg



At 01:49 PM 06/30/2000 +0200, you wrote:


It is a COMPAC PRESARIO 5716. The problem is that this machine shows a
big red Q at startup and no BIOS info. I therefore do not know which
keys to press to access the BIOS in order to turn on CD-ROM booting. It
currently boots from floppy first before hard disc.



Gregory Guthrie
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (515)472-1125Fax: -1103

linux + wan (frame relay)

[Mario Olimpio de Menezes]

Hi,

I would like to know if Linux (Debian/GNU) can work with wan
protocols, especifically frame-relay? 
That's, if I buy a wan card, can I route with Linux? Should I
expect some troubles? Some limitation? Can I "safely" substitute a Cisco
router with a linux+wan card?
Any kind of info is welcome; better if it's quick! :-)) 
Thanks,

[]s
Mario O.de Menezes"Many are the plans in a man's heart, but
IPEN-CNEN/SP is the Lord's purpose that prevails"
http://curiango.ipen.br/~mario Prov. 19.21
   http://www.revistalinux.com.br

Re: Trident giving me migraine

[jpb]

Tom von Schwerdtner wrote:
> 
> On Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 09:38:52PM -0500, Kent West wrote:
> > Mark Marburger wrote:
> > >
> > > HELP!  my old video card sucked, so my friend gave me his Trident card.  I
> > > put it in the box and now when i boot, the screen is friggin black  
> > > How
> > > do I get into xf86config to change the settings??
> >
> 
> I had what could be a similar problem when I was trying to get my voodoo 3 to
> work.  I had foolishly set my box to runlevel 5 so it kept trying to fire up
> gdm on boot, and it would keep trying, failing, retrying without givimg me
> enough time to even hig ctrl-alt-backspace or switch to another tty to shut
> things down.
> I eventually fixed it by booting via the Mandrake CD (which is what's on that 
> box)
> and when I got to the installation part, I switched over to another tty (F4 I 
> think)
> which was set up in single user mode (could be a nasty security flaw, 
> but).  From
> there I could get to the main drive and alter the init files to change to 
> runlevel 3,

ctrl-alt-f1 should put you in a text mode console.  Log in as root and
do XF86Setup

jpb
-- 
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CREOL System Administrator

Social graces are the packet headers of everyday life.

Re: How to get dependencies also ...

[Colin Watson]

Dinesh Nadarajah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Also, how do I browse through the contents of a *.deb
>package? (dpkg -I *.deb ???).

'dpkg -I' displays "control" information about the package; 'dpkg -c'
lists the files it contains. If you want anything more detailed than
that, 'dpkg --fsys-tarfile package.deb > package.tar' will give you a
tar file you can browse through at will.

-- 
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Re: Need help with installing Debian on a COMPAC PRESARIO 5716

[Preben Randhol]

Gregory Guthrie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 30/06/2000 (17:03) :
> look at the compaq web site, it has online manuals for almost all machines.
> 
> Typically for compaq, it boots, tests memory, beeps twice, puts the cursor 
> into the upper right hand corner, and at that time you should press F10 to 
> enter BIOS.

Ah thanks.

> Also, most compaqs w/in the last 5 years will boot to CDrom, so just put a 
> bootable debian disk in and try it, it is an effortless way to install!

Hmm. I was lead to believe it booted floppy before hard disc, but I'll
check.

-- 
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+---+ "There was, I think, never any reason to  believe in any innate
| ! |  superiority of the male, except his superior muscle."
+---+  -- Bertrand Russell, Ideas That Have Harmed Mankind (1950)

Re: free c compiler 8051

[Vicente]

http://sdcc.sourceforge.net/
(from http://www.geda.seul.org/links.html)

"A.M" wrote:

> dear friend
>
> do u have any free c compiler 8051  to send me or know about it
>
> Best regards
> A.Madinei
>
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Re: FTP server and security

[Bob Bernstein]

On Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 12:27:04PM -0700, Jay Kelly wrote:

> I want to enable anonymous login so I link my web to the ftp server.

Bad decision imho, but if you must:

ftp://ftp.iss.net/pub/faq/anonftp

Seriously consider NOT having upload capability, but if you must make
uploaded files "invisible" to an ls command, and seriously consider a
separate partition for ftp. Use quotas.

Again, have you thought about the risks of hardwiring an anon ftp server
into the 'Net? It's not for amateurs. No you *really* need this?

Read and heed that faq! If you get into warez I will disown you.

-- 
Bob Bernstein
at  http://www.ruptured-duck.com
Esmond, R.I., USA

s06241001121894

[chunjiang fu]

Install Package question:
Hi! all, I finally got installation of the
debian/linux 2.1 on my old 486 machine. But I still
have a problem: I could not install the basic package
from the CD(2 CD set). I selected the basic package
and use the access method as fellow: 
1). Multi-CD, It asked me the CD device like: enter
the name of the device [/dev/cdrom]: I entered:
/dev/cdrom, not work. /cdrom, not work. /dev/cdu31a(my
CD driver), not work.
2). apt: did like the instruction. Like change source
list? [Y]. File: /cdrom enter. stable  enter. main
contrib enter. add other packages [N]
Alt F2: mddir /cdrom enter: can not make cdrom: file
exists.
mount -t iso9660 -o ro /dev/hdc /cdrom enter
the kernel does not reconize the it as block device
(maybe "insmod" device)
Back to dselect menu: Upgrade..
get file: .
error can not get: /cdrom/./packages.gz
..
error staus 1
I tried the two CDs. not work.
I can reach the CD by cd /cdrom command.
debian ~#/cdrom and ls -al the top file.
Could some one help me solve these problems
thank you.
 

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Re: linux + wan (frame relay)

[Bolan Meek]

Mario Olimpio de Menezes wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I would like to know if Linux (Debian/GNU) can work with wan
> protocols, especifically frame-relay?

Linux has drivers for the frame relay protocol, and drivers
for "WAN" cards.  Stock Linux kernels do not have these drivers
compiled, neither in the kernel, nor as modules.  One must
recompile the kernel himself for WAN support.  It is a fairly
simple matter to add that support: merely selecting in the
X or curses configuration menus, typically, for it.

> That's, if I buy a wan card, can I route with Linux?

Certainly!

> Should I expect some troubles?

"Troubles" are pretty relative to expectations; expect
some work.

> Some limitation?

Open source = no limitation.

> Can I "safely" substitute a Cisco router with a linux+wan card?

It really depends on what features you need.  I had a momentary
reaction remembering an need of OSPF routing using Cisco equipment
in a past life, but I recover knowing that OSPF has been
recently added to Linux.

For simple IP routing, yes, you can.  For routing with filtering
(firewalling), yes, you can.  For routing with  protocol,
maybe:  we'd have to look more closely.

Re: linux + wan (frame relay)

[Pollywog]

I used a WAN card (a csu/dsu) with Linux.  It was a card that was not
supported by the Linux kernel, so I had to obtain the driver source
for the card and compile the drivers.  The problem I had with that
card was that I could not compile the drivers with any kernel newer
than 2.0.29. The card was a RISCom n2csu/dsu and I used it
successfully with frame relay.

--
Andrew

creating debs

[Sven Burgener]

Hi all

Given a source tarball, how to best install that into the system?

My suggestion would be to create a .deb archive and to then install that
using dpkg -i. Now, I have never created my own .deb apart from doing this 
with make-kpkg and apt-get source -b, so I am not familiar with the 
"internals" or much more the necessary contents of a debian archive for
it to be one.

I know though that dpkg-deb has the capability to build .deb archives.
As I know *nothing* more than that, I don't know what to do next to get
my source tarball (LAME) compiled and installed...?

Any help appreciated. :)
-- 
S. Burgener
Powered by Debian GNU/Linux 2.2

Re: ibm thinkpad 380Z serial port trouble

[Thomas Hood]

> I've recieved a thinkpad 380Z :-)
> I've partitioned disk and installed w2000 on a partition with "Thinkpad
> Configuration"
> On the other partition I've installed debian from a cd with kernel
> 2.2.12
> Problem is I can't connect throught PPP in order to update debian from
> the internet
> Linux doesn't see my serial port on /dev/ttyS1 only sees IR at ttyS0
> 
> details:
> -on w2000 serial is located at COM2, 0x02F8 and irq 3
> in "Thinkpad Configuration" I've serial port enabled and IR disabled.

Make sure the serial port is powered on, too.  See my web page:
http://panopticon.csustan.edu/thood/tp600lnx.htm for more info.

> -on linux I run setserial (v 2.14) doesn't happens anything, I type:
> setserial /dev/ttyS1 auto_irq autoconfig
> and on /proc/tty/driver/serial stills is only ttyS0

Make sure that the ioport for /dev/ttyS1 is set to 0x2F8

> -On my debian cd there isn't tpctl and I haven't any PCMCIA in order to
> get connected to the net, the only way is PPP

tpctl is available in potato archive under "misc".

Thomas

Where to set defaults???

[Dinesh Nadarajah]

Where do I set defaults for the window manager and X
applications. Things like:

Xterm*Font : jsdhkjdfkvkjv

olvwm*VirtualDesktop2x2

Usually it was .Xdefaults under RedHat. where does
Debian keep them?

Thanks.

_Dinesh

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Helix's gimp1.1 deb's and aalib1 out of date

[Arcady Genkin]

Hi all:

Trying to install gimp1.1 from the helix'es DEBs, I've run in a
problem that it depends on aalib1 >=1.2-29, but the aalib1 which is
available is version 1.2-25.

Any ideas where this package is available from for potato?

Here's what I have for my sources.list:
,[ sources.list ]
| deb ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian potato main contrib non-free
| deb http://non-us.debian.org potato/non-US contrib main non-free
| deb ftp://ftp.netgod.net x/
| #deb http://security.debian.org/ potato updates
| deb ftp://security.debian.org/debian-non-US potato/non-US contrib main 
non-free
| # deb ftp://ftp.netgod.net/debian potato contrib main non-free
| 
| deb http://spidermonkey.helixcode.com/distributions/debian unstable main
`

Thanks!
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Re: creating debs

[Peter Palfrader]

Hi Sven!

On Fri, 30 Jun 2000, Sven Burgener wrote:

> Given a source tarball, how to best install that into the system?
> 
> My suggestion would be to create a .deb archive and to then install that
> using dpkg -i. Now, I have never created my own .deb apart from doing this 
> with make-kpkg and apt-get source -b, so I am not familiar with the 
> "internals" or much more the necessary contents of a debian archive for
> it to be one.


Check out
http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/index.html/
and
http://www.debian.org/~elphick/manuals.html/maint-guide/

HTH
yours,
peter
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Re: s06241001121894 (Installation prob.)

[Esko Lehtonen]

chunjiang fu wrote:
> 
> Install Package question:
> Hi! all, I finally got installation of the
> debian/linux 2.1 on my old 486 machine. But I still
> have a problem: I could not install the basic package
> from the CD(2 CD set). I selected the basic package
> and use the access method as fellow:
> 1). Multi-CD, It asked me the CD device like: enter
> the name of the device [/dev/cdrom]: I entered:
> /dev/cdrom, not work. /cdrom, not work. /dev/cdu31a(my
> CD driver), not work.
> 2). apt: did like the instruction. Like change source
> list? [Y]. File: /cdrom enter. stable  enter. main
> contrib enter. add other packages [N]
> Alt F2: mddir /cdrom enter: can not make cdrom: file
> exists.
> mount -t iso9660 -o ro /dev/hdc /cdrom enter
> the kernel does not reconize the it as block device
> (maybe "insmod" device)
> Back to dselect menu: Upgrade..
> get file: .
> error can not get: /cdrom/./packages.gz
> ..
> error staus 1
> I tried the two CDs. not work.
> I can reach the CD by cd /cdrom command.
> debian ~#/cdrom and ls -al the top file.
> Could some one help me solve these problems
> thank you.
> 

Well, I understood that you have got the first phase of installation ok
(=your machine boots), and you are trying to install rest of the system
using dselect (aren't you?)

That multi-cd problem in dselect sounds familiar, and I DON'T exactly
know what is the problem here. When I bought a slink distribution, I got
a set of two cds. The first one had all binaries you need when
installing, the other one had sources and so on. My installation worked
well just using only the first CD and just CDROM as method.

Anyway, in my opinion dselect is quite horrible tool. Take a look at
apt, apt-get, apt-cdrom and dpkg when you have got your debian running.

Hope this helps


 Esko Lehtonen   WYSINWYG -  
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rescure floppy prob

[charles s zivancev]

I'm trying to boot from a Resuce Floppy I created. It seems to be o.k.
until it tries to uncompress the kernel.  The sequence is:

Loading root.bin..
Loading linux.
Uncompressing Linux..

invalid compressed format (err=2)

Did I go wrong somewhere while creating the resuce floppy??

Thanks,

Charles Zivancev
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Re: FTP server and security

[Marcio Rosa da Silva]

On Fri, 30 Jun 2000, Bob Bernstein wrote:

> On Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 12:27:04PM -0700, Jay Kelly wrote:
> 
> > I want to enable anonymous login so I link my web to the ftp server.
> 
> Bad decision imho, but if you must:

in mine too. That's the way apache.org was hacked. see:

http://pontobr.org/noticia.php3?nid=753

[]s,

Marcio

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Re: Need help with installing Debian on a COMPAC PRESARIO 5716

[Marcio Rosa da Silva]

On Fri, 30 Jun 2000, Preben Randhol wrote:

> Marcio Rosa da Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 30/06/2000 (16:19) :
> > 
> > http://www.debian.org/releases/slink/i386/ch-install-methods.en.html
> > 
> > There is a explanation about the methods of installing Debian. Do you
> > have a win/dos partition? The way I like more is to install the base
> > system from hard disk and the other packages from CD.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> OK so I have to install slink first. I just got a tip that F10 is the
> key I should try to access the BIOS, but now I have this method as
> backup if it should not work.

This method is for potato too. Just get the images from the CDs you have.

Marcio

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 * Sao Leopoldo - RS - Brazil
 * Phone: +55 51 590- R:1781/1782
 *   FAX: +55 51 590-8172
 *   http://www.eletrica.unisinos.br/~marcio
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Re: Need help with installing Debian on a COMPAC PRESARIO 5716

[Marcio Rosa da Silva]

On Fri, 30 Jun 2000, Preben Randhol wrote:

> I'm now going to install debian on a third machine. So far everything
> has gone nice, but the third machine is a bit troublesome.
> 
> It is a COMPAC PRESARIO 5716. The problem is that this machine shows a
> big red Q at startup and no BIOS info. I therefore do not know which
> keys to press to access the BIOS in order to turn on CD-ROM booting. It
> currently boots from floppy first before hard disc. 
> 
> So is it possible to make one or perhaps two floppy boot discs that
> could boot it up and the switch to do the rest of the installation from
> the CDs I have of Potato TC 2 ?

Take a look at:

http://www.debian.org/releases/slink/i386/ch-install-methods.en.html

There is a explanation about the methods of installing Debian. Do you
have a win/dos partition? The way I like more is to install the base
system from hard disk and the other packages from CD.

If you don't have the dos partition, I think drv1440.bin and root.bin are
the disks you need.

[]s,

Marcio

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 * Sao Leopoldo - RS - Brazil
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Re: iMac: boot Debian Linux from CD-ROM

[Philippe]

Hello Ethan and everyone!

potato is up and running on my iMac G3! Ethan's webpages were immensely
useful. especially the detailed file on using mac-fdisk for partitioning.
(It took about 6 hours of fussing around, so that's not too bad, is it?)
What follows might be just an esthetic question (since I'm able to boot to
either Debian or MAC OS with the "option" key reboot), and perhaps not
(should I want something cleaner???): 
(1) I'm using yaboot version 6. This
is what was on the vendor CDs. I'm afraid to use the menu_ofboot.b file,
even though the bug looks like it's been fixed (actually I tried it, and I
couldn't reboot onto linux, which is no fun!!!). So via MAC OS, I put
ybin-0.16.tar.gz on a
floppy. But, I'm unable to mount the floppy from linux. What's the command
line??? (mount is telling me to use insmod, but that's not working either)
(2) in any event, should I install ybin-0.16 to avoid eventual problems?
... I'm still writing to you from MAC OS, I have no clue how to get
started with PPP (e.g. to download ybin), emacs is running, but I don't
know how to get X11 working.

thanks a lot!

Philip

Re: Screen Capture

[Andras BALI]

On Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 03:23:12PM +0200, Michal Novak wrote:

> I need screen capture program for X, which capture complete screen as is.

The simpliest solution is to use "xwd" from the x11/xbase-clients
package. Enter the following command in an xterm:

 $ xwd -root -out shot.xwd

The .xwd file you get can be converted into other formats using 
"convert" from the graphics/imagemagick package:

 $ convert -quality 80 shot.xwd shot.jpg

(Use the -quality option to affect the compression level of the JPEG
file. 75% is a reasonable compromise).

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mpich -- Help!

[Christopher S. Swingley]

I'm looking for some help with mpich (parallel processing).  I've 
got task-parallel-computing-node installed on two connected machines 
(ivan and alexi), and task-parallel-computing-dev installed on 
one of them (ivan).  rsh-server is set up on both, and I've got 
a ~/.rhosts file on each that allows me into both machines.  I have 
also set up the /etc/mpich/machines.LINUX with the fully qualified 
domain names for the two machines.  Finally, my home directory is 
cross-mounted on both machines.  The whole thing is on a private
network behind a firewall machine.

Here's what I've tried (from the front-end machine):

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ tstmachines -v
Trying true on ivan.tuxnet.edu ...
Trying true on alexi.tuxnet.edu ...
Trying ls on ivan.tuxnet.edu ...
Trying ls on alexi.tuxnet.edu ...
Trying user program on ivan.tuxnet.edu ...
Trying user program on alexi.tuxnet.edu ...

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cp /usr/share/doc/mpich/examples/code/Makefile.in ~/
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cp /usr/share/doc/mpich/examples/code/cpi.c ~/

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ mpireconfig Makefile
creating Makefile

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ make cpi
/usr/lib/mpich/build/LINUX/ch_p4/bin/mpicc -O2 -c cpi.c
/usr/lib/mpich/build/LINUX/ch_p4/bin/mpicc -O2 -o cpi cpi.o -lm

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ mpirun -np 2 cpi

At this point top shows on my front-end (ivan):

  PID USER PRI  NI  SIZE  RSS SHARE STAT  LIB %CPU %MEM   TIME COMMAND
  634 cswingle  16   0   676  668   580 R   0 99.6  0.5   1:18 mpirun

It never seems to run cpi, and there are no rshd connections on my 
other machine (alexi), nor does mpirun or cpi every show up on alexi.  
mpirun just seems to hang.  Looking at the source code leads me to 
suspect that the program should immediately be asking me for the 
number of intervals to use in the calculation, but I never get that far.

I've tried several of the other programs in the examples/code directory,
but they either don't compile correctly, or exhibit the same freeze when
I do mpirun.

Does anyone have any hints on what I'm doing wrong, or what I should
try next?

Thanks.

Chris
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Re: FTP server and security

[Jay Kelly]

On Fri, Jun 30, 2000 at 11:23:37AM -0400, Bob Bernstein wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 12:27:04PM -0700, Jay Kelly wrote:
> 
> > I want to enable anonymous login so I link my web to the ftp server.
> 
> Bad decision imho, but if you must:
> 
> ftp://ftp.iss.net/pub/faq/anonftp
> 
> Seriously consider NOT having upload capability, but if you must make
> uploaded files "invisible" to an ls command, and seriously consider a
> separate partition for ftp. Use quotas.
> 
> Again, have you thought about the risks of hardwiring an anon ftp server
> into the 'Net? It's not for amateurs. No you *really* need this?
> 
> Read and heed that faq! If you get into warez I will disown you.
> 
> -- 
> Bob Bernstein
> at  http://www.ruptured-duck.com
> Esmond, R.I., USA
> 
> 
Well thats everybody for your help. I have decided just to run Apache. Looks 
like for the discussion that ftp is a bad idea. 
Thanks again
jay
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FW: telnet vs ^Z

[Wesley A. Wannemacher]

You can easily start a shell within VI with
ESC :!

This will spawn a shell. When the shell is done
(logout, exit, etc.) you will be put right back
into vi.

Wes


Wesley A. Wannemacher
Instructor, Network Administrator
Northwestern College
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-Original Message-
From: Will Trillich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2000 4:23 AM
To: Alberto Rodríguez Ortega
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: telnet vs ^Z


On Fri, Jun 30, 2000 at 09:17:46AM +0200, Alberto Rodríguez Ortega wrote:
> Hi Will,
>
> At 13.23 29/6/00 -0500, Will Trillich wrote:
> >i've got linux in the basement, cranking and serving
> >like a dream. to administer, i'm upstairs and i get
> >in via telnet on my local 192.168.*.* intranet.
> >
> >on the console (linux keyboard/mouse/monitor) i can
> >use ^Z to suspend a foreground job, just like in the
> >documentation.
> >
> >but ^Z seems to be ignored when i get in via telnet
> >even tho stty shows 'susp = ^Z'.
>
> i'm a bit lost,
> r u trying to sup the telnet or just a aplication on the server where
u
> are connected via telnet?

yes, i was a bit unclear on that point. heh.

i'm trying to get my telnet session to behave as if
i was at the console: if i'm in VI i wanna be able to ^Z
to get to the shell prompt.

my telnet client is running on a mac, which has no
clue about suspend/fg/bg. :)

i want the remote (linux server) full-screen process
(mutt, vi, etc) to suspend when i send ^Z, despite the
fact that i'm using telnet, and not sitting at the
console.

hell, i just tried it from the perl debugger, which
doesn't even use curses/ncurses for its dialogue,
and ^Z blinks the screen there, too, with no
suspend signal being sent to the job.

"i want my control-Z!" (waaah!)


> Have u cheked the binding at the remote server?
> Are u using 'screen'? If u r using a aplication which is getting al your
> keyboard controled (up the the shell) take care with that.

so, yes, all the settings below are from the server.
(ask a mac what an environmental variable is, and
you get deaf silence. comes from being a single-user
environment.)


> >now i know that tcsh has command-line settings that
> >can override stty items, such as '^W = werase' but
> >there's nothing i can see (perhaps i'm blind) that
> >would alter ^Z for suspend.
> >
> >what's interfering?
> >
> >% bindkey | grep Z
> >"^Z"   ->  tty-sigtsusp
> >"^[^Z" -> run-fg-editor
> >
> >% stty -a
> >speed 9600 baud; rows 32; columns 132; line = 0;
> >intr = ^C; quit = ^\; erase = ^D; eol = ; eol2 = ;
> >start = ^Q; stop = ^S; susp = ^Z; rprnt = ^R;
> >werase = ^W; lnext = ^V; flush = ^O; min = 1; time = 0;
> >-parenb -parodd cs8 -hupcl -cstopb cread -clocal -crtscts
> >-ignbrk -brkint -ignpar -parmrk -inpck -istrip -inlcr
> >-igncr icrnl ixon -ixoff -iuclc -ixany -imaxbel
> >opost -olcuc -ocrnl onlcr -onocr -onlret -ofill
> >-ofdel nl0 cr0 tab0 bs0 vt0 ff0
> >isig icanon iexten echo echoe echok -echonl -noflsh
> >-xcase -tostop -echoprt echoctl echoke
> >
> >% printenv
> >REMOTEHOST=jonathon
> >TERM=vt220
> >HZ=100
> >HOME=/home/will
> >SHELL=/usr/bin/tcsh
>
>PATH=/usr/lib/postgresql/bin/:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr
/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin
> >USER=will
> >LOGNAME=will
> >MAIL=/var/spool/mail/will
> >LANG=C
> >HUSHLOGIN=FALSE
> >HOSTTYPE=i386-linux
> >VENDOR=intel
> >OSTYPE=linux
> >MACHTYPE=i386
> >SHLVL=1
> >PWD=/var/www/agf
> >GROUP=serensoft
> >HOST=server
> >EDITOR=vi
> >HOSTNAME=server
> >HISTSIZE=1000
> >HISTFILESIZE=1000
> >LESS=-M-Q-s
> >LESSEDIT=%E ?lt+%lt. %f
> >LESSOPEN=| lesspipe %s
> >VISUAL=vi
> >LESSCHARSET=latin1
> >PAGER=less
> >
> >
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Re: FTP server and security

[Bob Bernstein]

On Fri, Jun 30, 2000 at 10:41:58AM -0700, Jay Kelly wrote:

> Well thats everybody for your help. I have decided just to run Apache.
> Looks like for the discussion that ftp is a bad idea.

It's a question of cost/benefit. Ftp can be great on a LAN that's protected.
Very handy. It's just that anon ftp access from the 'Net is the most risky
way to go. It depends on what you *really need* to provide, service-wise,
and how to deliver that in the most secure fashion.

You have alternatives: teach your users to use scp, or set up an ftp
download area just for authenticated users, etc, etc.


-- 
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at  http://www.ruptured-duck.com
Esmond, R.I., USA

Re: creating debs

[Colin Watson]

Sven Burgener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I know though that dpkg-deb has the capability to build .deb archives.
>As I know *nothing* more than that, I don't know what to do next to get
>my source tarball (LAME) compiled and installed...?

dpkg-deb is lower-level than you probably want.

Install the devscripts, packaging-manual, maint-guide, debhelper, and
dh-make packages (together with their dependencies), and preferably get
the source for the hello-debhelper package too and examine it. Read the
Packaging Manual and New Maintainer's Guide that you've just installed.

You should find that the following will get you most of the way there:

* Untar the upstream tarball;

* Rename the directory to be of the form packagename-upstreamversion
  (e.g. lame-1.0 or whatever version LAME is at);

* Type 'dh_make' and follow the prompts ("single binary" means "a single
  binary package", by the way, not "there is only one binary executable
  in this package");

* Edit the files in the debian/ subdirectory. The New Maintainer's Guide
  has information on what most of them mean.

Further questions should probably go on the debian-mentors mailing list.

HTH,

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Re: creating debs

[Sven Burgener]

On Fri, Jun 30, 2000 at 07:27:20PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:

> dpkg-deb is lower-level than you probably want.

At this point it looks to be so, yes. :)

[snipped steps]

Thanks tons for the useful infos.

Sven
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Re: linux + wan (frame relay)

[F. Fernández]

Hi!

Two years ago I had the same doubt and evaluated some options. I finally
decided to go for a small cisco router for the following reasons:
- At that time the linux kernel didn't do traffic shaping
- WAN boards were expensive and did'n have direct support
  in my country (Portugal)
- Cisco hardware is probably more reliable than a PC with one board
  in it (I confirmed this since we still use Linux for the internal router
  and firewall all along with the cisco router for the Internet
  connection - PC's do fail a lot and the cisco router never failed)

What we lost with this decision was:
- Traffic logging and statistics
- Efficient line monitoring
- Free software upgrades

If you are serious about this connection, spend a little bit more
and buy a dedicated router or be prepared to switch PC's very fast when the
the CPU hangs, the RAM fails or motherboard burns.

Hope this helps!

Fernando



- Original Message -
From: Mario Olimpio de Menezes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Debian User List 
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2000 4:04 PM
Subject: linux + wan (frame relay)


>
> Hi,
>
> I would like to know if Linux (Debian/GNU) can work with wan
> protocols, especifically frame-relay?
> That's, if I buy a wan card, can I route with Linux? Should I
> expect some troubles? Some limitation? Can I "safely" substitute a Cisco
> router with a linux+wan card?
> Any kind of info is welcome; better if it's quick! :-))
> Thanks,
>
> []s
> Mario O.de Menezes"Many are the plans in a man's heart, but
> IPEN-CNEN/SP is the Lord's purpose that prevails"
> http://curiango.ipen.br/~mario Prov. 19.21
>http://www.revistalinux.com.br
>
>
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Re: Filtering Email in Pine

[Jaldhar H. Vyas]

On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, Noah L. Meyerhans wrote:

> UW wants it to be really dumbed down for the novice users so they turn
> most features off by default.  Maybe it'd be a good idea for our
> unofficial Pine maintainer to create a better default pine.conf.
> 

Sounds like a good idea.  I'd make it a example though and leave the
default  configuration restricted.  "Less rope to hang yourself" and that
sort of thing.  so anyone want to send me the "perfect" pine.conf?

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Experiences with Winbond w89c840f

[Viktor Rosenfeld]

Hello list,

I am looking for an ethernet card that is not very big.  I found a nice
card in a store, that uses the Winbond w89c840f chipset.  The SuSE
support page lists the driver for this card as experimental and says
it's supported by an external program and not by the kernel directly.

Any experiences with that chipset?

TIA,
Viktor
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Re: truetype fonts and xfree86 4

[kmself]

On Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 12:32:12PM +0100, Vincent Murphy wrote:
>  i installed the pre-compiled xfree86 4 binaries from ftp.xfree86.org on
> a woody system, and have a
> 
>Load "freetype"
> 
> line in my /etc/X11/XF86Setup.  it all works perfectly except xlsfonts
> doesn't load Truetype fonts, and so i can't use them in gimp/netscape
> etc either.
> 
>  what do i have to do to get truetype fonts working?  i presume i have
> to put a directory in XF86Config (maybe another FontPath?), have the
> fonts in the directory, and do something to create some sort of index.
> 
>  (please cc me privately as well as the list, i'm just reading the archives
> this week.)
> 
> regards,
> -vincent

No need to modify XF86Config (not /etc/X11/XF86Setup as you note).

  1. Add 
xset fp+ unix/:7101
...to /etc/X11/Xsession

  2. store your TT fonts in the default directory /usr/share/fonts/truetype

  3. Run "xfstt --sync" to add the new fonts (xfstt should *not* be
 running at this point).

  4. start your xfstt server (usually through init.d scripts).

  5. Launch Netscape (and/or your X session), and select TT fonts.

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Re: telnet vs ^Z

[kmself]

On Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 01:23:14PM -0500, Will Trillich wrote:
> i've got linux in the basement, cranking and serving
> like a dream. to administer, i'm upstairs and i get
> in via telnet on my local 192.168.*.* intranet.
> 
> on the console (linux keyboard/mouse/monitor) i can
> use ^Z to suspend a foreground job, just like in the
> documentation.
> 
> but ^Z seems to be ignored when i get in via telnet
> even tho stty shows 'susp = ^Z'.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:karsten]$ telnet localhost
Trying 127.0.0.1...
Connected to localhost.
Escape character is '^]'.

...escape is "^]" -- -] (the right square brace, should be above
and right of your quote/doublequote key).

Telnet needs to reserve ^Z for the remote session.

Similarly, you'll find that ssh reserves ^Z, and the escape sequence for
an ssh session is "~^Z" ("tilde" plus -Z keystroke).

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Re: telnet vs ^Z

[Will Trillich]

On Fri, Jun 30, 2000 at 08:31:22PM +, C. Falconer wrote:
> My advice is to forget telnet, and use SSH instead.
> 
> apt-get install ssh
> on the linux machine, and get PuTTY for your other machines 
> (mac/pc/alpha/etc available)
> 
> If you can't find it email me and I'll dig up a URL

oh, i've got it alright, but don't understand how to use it yet.
i've generated keys here and there, plopped this in and that
out, but still haven't been able to connect.

but i'm only using telnet on my internal 192.168.*.* intranet;
i know it's a security disaster waiting to happen, but until
i have time to grok ssh, it's all i've got.

and i don't got ^Z.

and i doubt that ssh will solve the particular problem anyhow.


> At 04:02 PM 6/29/00 -0500, you wrote:
> >On Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 11:51:35AM -0700, Jakob 'sparky' Kaivo wrote:
> > > Will Trillich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > >
> > > > i've got linux in the basement, cranking and serving
> > > > like a dream. to administer, i'm upstairs and i get
> > > > in via telnet on my local 192.168.*.* intranet.
> > > >
> > > > on the console (linux keyboard/mouse/monitor) i can
> > > > use ^Z to suspend a foreground job, just like in the
> > > > documentation.
> > > >
> > > > but ^Z seems to be ignored when i get in via telnet
> > > > even tho stty shows 'susp = ^Z'.
> > > >
> > > > now in know that tcsh has command-line settings that
> > > > can override stty items, such as '^W = werase' but
> > > > there's nothing i can see (perhaps i'm blind) that
> > > > would alter ^Z for suspend.
> > > >
> > > > what's interfering?
> > >
> > > telnet is. Before connecting, telnet is likely setting the signal
> > > handler for SIGSTOP to SIG_IGN so that it can pass the suspend
> > > character (^Z) to the romte connection. To suspend telnet, hit th
> > > escape character (^] by default) and type z (enter).
> >
> >whoops. i didn't include enough info.
> >
> >i'm not trying to suspend my local telnet session
> >(which i'm running from my mac os box). i'm trying
> >to suspend, say, the remote 'vi' or 'mutt' session.
> >my telnet does send every keystroke (except for
> >mac-specific command-key combos) to linux.
> >
> >when i type control-Z in full-screen environment
> >such as vi or mutt, i see my telnet display blank
> >and then reappear in a fraction of a second
> >(kinda like ^L in vi, but ^L does a full redraw
> >so fast you often don't even see the blink).
> >
> >..
> >
> >so when i telnet in from remote, how do i get
> >^Z to suspend the local linux process?
> >
> >
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> 

Subnetting & Netmasking (was Re: Firewall)

[Bolan Meek]

Derek Wueppelmann wrote:
> 
> > You missed his point of having the NIC on the "inside" in
> > a different subnet than that of the NIC on the "outside".
> >
> > But let me ask first:  isn't the IP on the ISP's side one
> > out of the ISP's net?  Or are you allocating one of your
> > IP to your ISP's router?

Have you considered this question?  It really _is_ a key point.

> If you could point me to a good resource on subnetting that
> would be very helpful.

Subnetting is included in these:

http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Networking-Overview-HOWTO.html
http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Net-HOWTO.html
http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/NET3-4-HOWTO.html

but I think it would be helpful for me to make a summary or
expansion, however it may be...

> I tried to create a subnet, it didn't seem to work, however
> I don't think I created it correctly. What I've read has so
> far gone completely over my head, I am just picking up a few
> of the small details of subnetting but not actually enough
> to create one using the tools "route" and "ifconfig", etc. 
> thanks again.

Subnetting is a routing aid, to "break" up an Internet-classed
network into smaller networks.  The Internet has three size
classes of networks, A, B & C.  The A networks have addresses
like AA.0.0.0, with 1048574 (1048576 - 2) hosts, B class
networks have addresses like AA.BB.0.0, with 65534 (65536 - 2)
hosts, and C class networks have addresses like AA.BB.CC.0,
with 254 (256 - 2) hosts.  Host addresses of all ones and
of all zeros (binary) are not supposed to be used, since
these mean "broadcast" (to all the hosts) and "the network",
hence the "- 2"'s above.  The class of network is determined
by the first few (most significant) bits.

The networking drivers of a host know how to send packets
to another host on the same network, based on the address
of interface connecting the host to that network.  In the
case of a destination _not_ on the same network, the host
must send the packets to a router to get it to the intended
destination.  For each possible destination network, the
network drivers will consult routing information to find
a router that should get the packets there.  At last resort,
a _default_ router could be designated, which is supposed
to know how to get packets to any arbitrary network.

Subnetting is a scheme to break up networks, for various
reasons, including isolation, by extending the number of
bits used to identify the network portion of an address,
by "robbing" them from the host portion of the address.
The number of bits robbed is completely arbitrary, but
in any subnetwork, there are always two host addresses
that should not be used: all zeros, and all ones.  Hence
a network that was uniformly subnetted all the way down
to only two bits of host address would have half of
the total address space within the overall network
unusable for hosts.

The network portion of an address can be identified by
the netmask, expressed in all ones in binary, usually
translated to decimal or hexidecimal, from the most
significant bit, to the least significant used bit of
the complete address.  Hence the netmask for a class
A address is .0.0.0=FF.0.0.0=255.0.0.0, class
B has ..0.0=FF.FF.0.0=255.255.0.0, and
class C has ...0=FF.FF.FF.0=
255.255.255.0.  These netmasks are implied by the
class of address, and therefore, do not usually need
to be specified in interface address settings or
routing information settings.  Netmasks are also
oftem symbolized by something like A.B.C.0/N, where
N is the number of bits of netmasking.

Subnetting effectively ignores Internet classes, and
therefore requires explicit netmasking specification.
For an example of subnetting, a given class C might
be broken into four subnets: A.B.C.0, A.B.C.64,
A.B.C.128, and A.B.C.192.  In binary: A.B.C.,
A.B.C.0100, A.B.C.1000, & A.B.C.1100 .
In each of these subnets, there could be up to 62 hosts.
The netmasks for these are 255.255.255.192

Subnetting doesn't require that each subnet be equal.
Remember, the number of bits extending the Internet-class
network address are arbitrary.  The above network might
be subnetted into nets A.B.C.0, A.B.C.8, each masked
255.255.255.248, having upto 6 hosts each, net A.B.C.16,
masked at 255.255.255.240, having up to 14 hosts, nets
A.B.C.32, A.B.C.64, and A.B.C.96, each masked 255.255.255.224,
having up to 30 hosts and a net A.B.C.128,  masked
255.255.255.128, having up to 126 hosts.

There can even be subnets of subnets.  For a given host,
if there are sub-subnets, the netmasking with the most
bits ought to be tested first against the destination
address to ensure that packets get sent to the appropriate
router.

At _really_ helps to use binary to figure the netmasking:
255.128.0.0 = .1000.0.0, hosts 0.0.1 - 127.255.254
255.192.0.0 = .1100.0.0, hosts 0.0.1 - 63.255.254
255.224.0.0 = .1110.0.0, hosts 0.0.1 - 31.255.254
255.240.0.0 = .111

Re: how to start gnome

[Francesco Bochicchio]

On Thu, 29 Jun 2000 14:29:19 Nick wrote:
> i loaded gnome a long time ago and forgot how to start it
> 
> i have tried
> gnome-sessionand not luck
> 
gnome-session is correct, but the first time you should create the session (
ASAIK gnome-session just allows to save the program started in a session
and start next session with the same programs ).
I do it in this way :

1) first time have an .xsession like this :
xterm &
 gnome-session
then startx ( o login using xdm [ or similar lohgin manager ] ).

2) from the x-term start :
sawmill & ( or whatever is your WM )
panel &

3) logout using the panel main menu and SAVING THE SESSION

4) edit .xsessione and remove xterm &.

Next time, gnome should start by itselv th WM and the panel. 

One could expect a 'default session' to be use the first time ... but that is.

Ciao.
-- 
FB

Re: Filtering Email in Pine

[Noah L. Meyerhans]

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Well, I've attached the feature-list I have included in my site's
/etc/pine.conf.  The feature list is where most stuff is enabled.  Other
stuff is pretty site-specific.  Maybe we could offer a pine.conf that has
color turned on or something?  I haven't played with that at all, but I've
seen it used and it could be worth looking at.

On Fri, 30 Jun 2000, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote:

> On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, Noah L. Meyerhans wrote:
> 
> > UW wants it to be really dumbed down for the novice users so they turn
> > most features off by default.  Maybe it'd be a good idea for our
> > unofficial Pine maintainer to create a better default pine.conf.
> > 
> 
> Sounds like a good idea.  I'd make it a example though and leave the
> default  configuration restricted.  "Less rope to hang yourself" and that
> sort of thing.  so anyone want to send me the "perfect" pine.conf?
> 
> -- 
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> 
> 
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apt-get

[gochenourj]

Can anyone tell me where to get documentation on how to use apt-get?
I am new to debian and apt.

Thanks,

Ashby

Re: rank newbie - no mouse

[Francesco Bochicchio]

On Fri, 30 Jun 2000 06:34:50 sido wrote:
> 
> 
> I installed Debian Linux and everything works great except for X which
> looks fine except the mouse doesn't move.  I've re-installed the OS 3
> times now and searched for help on the mouse but not come up with much.  I
> tried to run mouseconfig but couldn't find it.  
> 
> The mouse is a 3-button mouse, manufacturer Digital.  
> 
> ls -l  /dev/mouse
> 
> /dev/mouse-> ttyS0
> 
> That doesn't seem right to me but I can't figure out how to change it
> either.

If the mouse is a serial mouse attached to the first serial port ttyS0 is
correct.

The program to setup X configuration is called XF86Setup. I does not list any
'Digital' mouse, however, but you could experiment with the different setting (
tou can navigate the window using 'tab' key and press the selected button using
'enter'. 

Good luck.
-- 
FB

Re: More questions about Postfix (Was Re: Postfix troubles)

[Mark Brown]

On Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 10:10:56PM -0400, S.Salman Ahmed wrote:

> and now mail to root/[EMAIL PROTECTED] is correctly forwarded to me. Thanks
> for the suggestion. I am surprised this wasn't in the Postfix FAQ.

I've got suspicion that mydomain was set to "phoenix".

> Another thing I noticed in my logs is the following postfix-related
> message:

> Jun 29 21:52:57 phoenix postfix/local[2536]: warning: biff_notify: Connection 
> refused

> What is biff_notify() and how can I disable this so that this message
> doesn't fill up my logs ?

It's one of the mechanisms used for "you've got mail" notifications.
IIRC there's a "biff" option you can set to stop Postfix trying to do
this kind of notification, but I could be wrong.

> Lastly, is there anything else that can/should be done to secure Postfix
> on a dialup system ? I have already closed my system to any outside
> access using tcp_wrappers. Should I be concerned with any smtp-relaying
> issues since Postfix is running on my system ?

Postfix is pretty secure by default.  You could always firewall out any
incoming connections on port 25, but if you don't want to worry about
firewalling I wouldn't worry too much.

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Re: GNOME+Sawmill workspaces

[Francesco Bochicchio]

On Thu, 29 Jun 2000 18:32:40 Ed Cogburn wrote:
> 
> 
>   I have GNOME and Sawmill/Sawfish (latest debs from potato/woody) and
> I want to have 4 workspaces in a horizontal row.  The GNOME pager
> works as I want it to, except that Sawmill allows moving the cursor to
> the top or bottom of the screen as a way to change workspaces just
> like moving the cursor to the left or right side of the screen, where
> top=left and bottom=right.  I want it to not allow changing workspaces
> by using the top and bottom of the screen so I can use Gnome's toolbar
> along the bottom of the screen with auto-hide on without any annoying
> interaction.  Does anyone know if this can be done?
> 

Run sawmill-ui (sawdust-ui ?)  Select Edge Flipping. Disable "Flip to next
viewport "

I run sawmill 0.21 which is a bit newer of the version in potato. Hope the
option is already there.

Ciao
-- 
FB

problems with modules

[Larry Elmore]

I just installed 'Woody' and am having odd problems with a couple of
modules. The 'lp' module claims that options passed to it in 'modules.conf'
are bad, yet they are exactly the same options I previously used with
'Slink':

options lp io=0x378 irq=7

Also, my SoundBlaster 16 which previously worked using these settings:

options adlib_card io=0x388'
options sb io=0x220 irq=5 dma=1 dma16=5 mpu_io=0x330

but now fails to work. The drivers are loaded, then ('dmesg' reveals), the
dsp fails to reset and apparently everything is then unloaded ('cat <
/dev/sndstat' shows nothing loaded). 'modprobe sb' fails with message that
"device is busy" and module parameters may be wrong.

I used the same options in configuring the kernel for recompilation that I
used before (I'd taken notes) and as far as I can find out in the HOWTO's, I
did everything right. So does anybody have any idea what's going on here?
Help!

Thanks,
Larry

RE: apt-get

[Sean 'Shaleh' Perry]

On 30-Jun-2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Can anyone tell me where to get documentation on how to use apt-get?
> I am new to debian and apt.
> 

/usr/share/doc/apt.

Every package in Debian has docs (some have more than others).

Re: linux + wan (frame relay)

[Shaul Karl]

> Mario Olimpio de Menezes wrote:
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I would like to know if Linux (Debian/GNU) can work with wan
> > protocols, especifically frame-relay?
> 


An external unit might also be an option. It talks to Linux via 
serial/ethernet cable which is why no special support is required.


> Linux has drivers for the frame relay protocol, and drivers
> for "WAN" cards.  Stock Linux kernels do not have these drivers
> compiled, neither in the kernel, nor as modules.  One must
> recompile the kernel himself for WAN support.  It is a fairly
> simple matter to add that support: merely selecting in the
> X or curses configuration menus, typically, for it.
> 
> > That's, if I buy a wan card, can I route with Linux?
> 
> Certainly!
> 
> > Should I expect some troubles?
> 
> "Troubles" are pretty relative to expectations; expect
> some work.
> 
> > Some limitation?
> 
> Open source = no limitation.
> 
> > Can I "safely" substitute a Cisco router with a linux+wan card?
> 
> It really depends on what features you need.  I had a momentary
> reaction remembering an need of OSPF routing using Cisco equipment
> in a past life, but I recover knowing that OSPF has been
> recently added to Linux.
> 
> For simple IP routing, yes, you can.  For routing with filtering
> (firewalling), yes, you can.  For routing with  protocol,
> maybe:  we'd have to look more closely.
> 
> 
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unofficial mirror

[Christopher Thompson]

I plan on installing Debian on three computers this weekend.  I
have a cable modem but limited download bandwidth and so I'd
like to set up a temporary mirror just for the weekend.

So I'm curious... how much disk space should I set aside to
mirror potato for i386 machines?

-- 
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"Act only on that maxim whereby thou canst at the same
time will that it should become a universal law."

find question

[Andrew Kae]

Hello,

I've been looking through the find web page and I'm still not sure if I'm 
correct.


Say I'm running a web server on a.com.
After telnetting into the box, i want to know how often certain parts have 
been accessed.


say the directory structure is:
../
index.html
dir1/
dir2/
and a bunch of other files.

dir1 and dir2 are web sites themselves.

I want to know if anyone has accessed dir1 within the last 60 days.  I've 
been using find like this:

$ find dir1 -atime 60 -print

Is this the correct command?
Is there an easier or alternative way to find this out without looking at 
the logs?

How does "find" check on this anyway?

Sorry for the long email

thanks

andrew



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RE: unofficial mirror

[Sean 'Shaleh' Perry]

On 30-Jun-2000 Christopher Thompson wrote:
> I plan on installing Debian on three computers this weekend.  I
> have a cable modem but limited download bandwidth and so I'd
> like to set up a temporary mirror just for the weekend.
> 
> So I'm curious... how much disk space should I set aside to
> mirror potato for i386 machines?
> 

install on one computer (or go to an existing debian box).  run dpkg
--get-selections > file.  Each line that ends in 'install' is an installed
package.  You only need to actually mirror what you use.  Which can be a mirror
from around 50mb to 300mb.  All of potato is nearly 2gb.

RE: find question

[Sean 'Shaleh' Perry]

> 
> dir1 and dir2 are web sites themselves.
> 
> I want to know if anyone has accessed dir1 within the last 60 days.  I've 
> been using find like this:
> $ find dir1 -atime 60 -print
> 
> Is this the correct command?

looks sane, although I think atime is only set on files.  Also, some people
turn off atime writing for a speed gain.

> Is there an easier or alternative way to find this out without looking at 
> the logs?

there are log analyzers out there.  They give all kinds of great stats.  look
on freshmeat.net

> How does "find" check on this anyway?
> 

each file on the hard drive has data stored with it about its size, permisions,
time created, etc.  This is the same data ls prints.  To see what find is
doing, read the man page for stat.

clobbered fonts--intermittant

[David S. Jackson]

Hi,

Occasionally when I run sawfish or lately, even a freshly rolled
fvwm2 binary, I get clobbered fonts when I close out of X.  It's
as though only some of the characters get clobbered though.  Only
some characters are off, such as apostrophes, exclamation marks,
single and double quotes, and so forth.  It's like an alternate
character set takes over the TTY.  

How can I determine just what the problem is?  What is happening?
Not sure how to go about this one.

TIA!

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 another firewall, through the gateway, out the T-3, off core2 in 
Atlanta . . . nothin' but Net." 

Gnome doesn't like SSH

[Nick]

hey list:
i recently upgrade my box to potato and loaded gnome
gnome likes to use the sawfish windows manager which conflicts with ssh

ssh depends on gmp2, but gmp2 conflicts libgmp2, which is required by sawfish

does anyone have any suggestions as to how i can use gnome and ssh

i like sawfish and don't want to have to change win managers to use GNOME

thankx

nick  debian 2.2 kernel 2.2.15

FW: ppp help

[gochenourj]

Hey Debian-heads,
Thanks for the reply...
I've only installed the potato base-1-11.bin discs.
I wanted to use apt-get to install the rest of the system.
I can't seem to get my modem to dial up though. Are there
any good document pages (http) that explain how to set up
dial up scripts? My modem is on ttys3 (com4). So far, I've been
looking in /etc/ppp/* and have not understood what to do.

Do I need some type of chat script?

Thank you,

Ashby

> On 30-Jun-2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Can anyone tell me where to get documentation on how to use apt-get?
> > I am new to debian and apt.
> > 
> 
> /usr/share/doc/apt.
> 
> Every package in Debian has docs (some have more than others).
> 
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X fonts (2)

[Marcio Rosa da Silva]

I have another problem with the fonts in X.

I installed the freefont package but gimp doesn't find the fonts. I simply
installed the .deb and didn't make anything else.

The fonts are in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/freefont/ 

Should I run some program to gimp recognize the fonts? (I already rebooted
the computer).

Thanks!

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RE: rank newbie - no mouse

[Bill Barnes]

>= Original Message From [EMAIL PROTECTED] =
>On Fri, 30 Jun 2000 06:34:50 sido wrote:
>>
>>
>> I installed Debian Linux and everything works great except for X which
>> looks fine except the mouse doesn't move.  I've re-installed the OS 3
>> times now and searched for help on the mouse but not come up with much.  I
>> tried to run mouseconfig but couldn't find it.
>>
>> The mouse is a 3-button mouse, manufacturer Digital.
>>
>> ls -l  /dev/mouse
>>
>> /dev/mouse   -> ttyS0
>>
>> That doesn't seem right to me but I can't figure out how to change it
>> either.
>
>If the mouse is a serial mouse attached to the first serial port ttyS0 is
>correct.

Try to find 'gpm-config'.
If you installed KDE it is at debian applications > apps > system > admin.
You can bring up the main KDE menu with Alt-F1 and cursor/return to the next 
level menus.

In every distro I've tried (Mandrake,SuSE,OpenBSD,etc) the installation has an 
early screen that configures the mouse.  Without exception, any attemp to 
reset the mouse in XF86Setup kills it.

Good luck,
Bill Barnes

Re: HeaderName in Apache autoindex

[will trillich]

well i got one promising reply, which i admit i haven't
had time to check out:

>
w trillich wrote:
> speaking of autoindex issues-- i can't get apache to
> display the HEADER or README files (above and
> below the tabular file listing), and when i posted
> my most recent question, someone else piped up and
> said they've got the same snag.
>
> is there a configuration that turns off the inclusion
> of plain text header/footer? it seems to be site-wide
> for us...

Add something like this for the  sections you want
to have display the header and footer:


ForceType text/plain


Apparantly the DefaultType setting isn't being honored for this
case. Sorry if this was already answered, but I didn't see it
come up.

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<

thanks, mike!

BUT--

even if that works, the apache dox say that you can have
a HEADER.html or README.html file, which also doesn't work
on our 1.3.9 server...

so, what we'd already done, instead, was to create our own
/cgi-bin/index.pl script to generate listings that would
keep hackers guessing as to what type of server we're
running. (kinda a roll-our-own deception toolbox, as it were;
you can spot an apache index listing at fifty paces.) we also
added filtering capabilities, where the script looks for
"./.index" and checks for ^\s*(show|hide)\s*=\s*(.*) to know
what to include/exclude in the grep//,readdir().

our next step is to make it an Apache::Registry handler instead
of a resource-hogging cgi script. (once we get these darn
client demands our of our way...)

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Which window manager

[Dinesh Nadarajah]

I am looking for a window manager for debian that will
not soakup the system resources. Which one would you
suggest?

Thanks.

-D

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RE: Which window manager

[Sean 'Shaleh' Perry]

On 30-Jun-2000 Dinesh Nadarajah wrote:
> I am looking for a window manager for debian that will
> not soakup the system resources. Which one would you
> suggest?
> 

I maintain blackbox it was designed to be minimal.  Another popular choice is
window maker, with all the bells and whistles turned off.

use gtk themes w/ gnome

[Nick]

i can't find any themes for gnome

maybe  i am looking in the wrong place, any on have any suggestions?

Re: use gtk themes w/ gnome

[Christopher Thompson]

http://www.themes.org/

On Fri, 30 Jun 2000, Nick wrote:
> i can't find any themes for gnome
> 
> maybe  i am looking in the wrong place, any on have any suggestions?
> 
> 
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RE: Which window manager

[Larry Elmore]

> From: Dinesh Nadarajah [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> I am looking for a window manager for debian that will
> not soakup the system resources. Which one would you
> suggest?

If you're going to run Gnome, I'd suggest using Helix-Gnome (on Woody) and
the version of Sawfish that comes with it. Sawfish is really bare-bones in
some ways, but Gnome handles everything else quite well. Sawfish is very
extensible and programmable in Lisp, which is a big selling point for me.
This is what I use now.

Without using Gnome, I'd suggest WindowMaker. I used it for quite a while,
too.

Enlightenment can really use up CPU cycles, though it's not too bad if you
turn off most of the eye-candy (in which case, why use it?).
Gnome+Enlightenment is so slow starting up I almost thought I must've
accidently booted into my Windows NT4 partition...

I'm afraid I don't know much about the others available.

Larry

ippp0

[Willi Dyck]

isndctrl dial ippp0

this command returns the error message:

ippp0: Operation not supported by device

What can I do?

Thanx

Re: Which window manager

[Tom Pfeifer]

icewm (ice window manager) is another good one - very simple and easy on
resources.

Tom

Dinesh Nadarajah wrote:
> 
> I am looking for a window manager for debian that will
> not soakup the system resources. Which one would you
> suggest?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> -D

Re: Which window manager

[Bolan Meek]

Dinesh Nadarajah wrote:
> 
> I am looking for a window manager for debian that will
> not soakup the system resources. Which one would you
> suggest?

I like mwm in lesstif, the libraries from which are
required for nedit, my favorite editor.  However,
the lesstif package containing mwm doesn't seem
to "Provides: window-manager", dselect nagged me
to install one of the Recommended window managers.
I chose lwm, since it took up the least space.

Compaq ProLiant ML350

[A. Scott White]

I have a new Compaq ProLiant ML350 server. It has a Compaq Smart Array 431
Raid Controller. It also has a NC3123 Fast Ethernet NIC PCI 10/100 Wake on
LAN card.

Is there any hope for installing this? The default 2.1 install disks hang
while trying to reset the SCSI. The TECRA boot disks detect no drive at all.

I have installed Debian several times, but always on fairly standard
hardware. I think I will be able to follow instructions to this if it is
possible.

Thanks.


A. Scott White
Director of Information Systems and Product Strategy
ACS Healthcare Solutions Group

Re: autofs and nis

[Christopher W. Curtis]

"Suresh Kumar. R" wrote:

> How do we know that the auto.master and other autofs files are available
> on the client machine via nis ? What I mean is , on a client machine
> we can check for the availability of  the passwd files by typing
> ypcat passwd. What is auto*.* equivalent. Should we do anything on the
> nis server to make them(autofs files) shareable via nis ?

ypcat auto.master
ypcat auto.misc
etc

As for the server, edit /var/yp/Makefile and make sure they are present.

Christopher

inetd.conf entries

[Sven Burgener]

Hi list

What are each of the following lines for and thus which can be commented
out by me?

-- inetd.conf snippet --
#echo   stream  tcp nowait  rootinternal
#echo   dgram   udp waitrootinternal
#chargenstream  tcp nowait  rootinternal
#chargendgram   udp waitrootinternal
discard stream  tcp nowait  rootinternal
discard dgram   udp waitrootinternal
daytime stream  tcp nowait  rootinternal
#daytimedgram   udp waitrootinternal
timestream  tcp nowait  rootinternal
#time   dgram   udp waitrootinternal
-- inetd.conf snippet --

TIA
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Powered by Debian GNU/Linux 2.2

Re: Which window manager

[cls--colo spgs]

...icewm (with liquid for a theme).  it's clean and
doesn't remind me of m$.  (be sure to apt-get iceconf
so you can hide the taskbar and use cool background
images.)

hth.

bentley taylor

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> 
> I am looking for a window manager for debian that will
> not soakup the system resources. Which one would you
> suggest?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> -D
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