how to make .deb packages?

[Fox, Michael]

I have always wondered. I manage a fair few Debian machines, as since I
started using debian about 12months ago after coming from Slackware. I have
since given up on anything else, and only use Debian.

I noticed that when you build a kernel on your machine, that you can also
make your kernel image and modules for your machine into a deb package,
which then is usuable on other machines.

Basically my question is, how do I make a deb kernel image, so that it can
be transferred to other machines and used. Since all the machines are on the
same hardware.

And another thing I am curious about, is if compile something to my system,
how could i turn the compiled/installed program into a deb file ready to use
on another machine. So how do the package maintainers make there deb
packages to be submitted to the package tree? I am very interested to know,
and use it for my own benefit. Who knows I might someday become a maintainer
of my own package :)

Please email me directly, I am not on the list, and only broswe the disgest
every so often :)

Thanks

Re: can I change the font of default "xterm"?

[Marshal Kar-Cheung Wong]

I think you might try looking at console-tools or kbd packages.  You
probably won't be able to use TrueType fonts though, but I don't know
for sure.  You might also look into the SVGAtextmode (or something
like that) package.

g'Luck!

Marshal

> "john" == john smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> yes. actually what I meant to ask was the fonts for the
> terminals when you press alt+f1,f2 etc..

>> From: Kent West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To:
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Marshal Kar-Cheung Wong
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], john smith
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Debian Users
>>  Subject: Re: can I change the
>> font of default "xterm"?  Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 17:49:26 -0500
>> MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [150.252.135.30] by
>> hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id
>> MHotMailBABF99EB000FD82197DD96FC871E89710; Thu Apr 13 15:49:19
>> 2000 Received: from mail.acu.edu ([EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [150.252.128.51])by nicanor.acu.edu (2.1.2/8.9.1/Execmail 2.1)
>> with ESMTP id RAA06107;Thu, 13 Apr 2000 17:47:28 -0500 (CDT)
>> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Apr 13 15:50:35 2000 Sender:
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.71 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.14 i686)
>> X-Accept-Language: en References:
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> 
>> Marshal Kar-Cheung Wong wrote:
>> 
>> > > "Kent" == Kent West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >
>> 
>> John wrote:
>> 
>> > >> > > I'd like to know if I can change the font of
>> xterm. xterm > >> is the default >pty > > terminal on the
>> initial boot right? or > >> am I mistaken? I would like to >use
>> my > > ttf font for the > >> default terminal (whichever it
>> boots into before the >xdm > > > >> login prompt) since I have
>> configured xfstt font server > >> properly.is this > >
>> possible?  > > > > Thanks.
>> 
>> Kent answered:
>> 
>> > >> You use the term "xterm", which is a terminal for X, but
>> you describe a > >> >console >terminal. Assuming you mean the
>> console, and not an X > >> terminal, you might >try >installing
>> fonter, which is a > >> "point"-and-click font selector
>> thingie.  >There are >other > >> ways to do it, but that might
>> get you started.  > >
>> 
>> Then John wrote: >> thanks. mind telling me the "other ways"
>> that you have said >> before?. I tried fontser but I don't like
>> the way how it >> handles things.
>> 
>> 
>> And Kent answered:
>> 
>> > > To be honest, I don't remember. I know that when I first
>> started > > out with Linux I found some text file somewhere
>> that allowed me > > to change the console fonts, but now in
>> response to your > > question I've done a little bit of looking
>> around and don't see > > what I remember seeing before, so it
>> may be that things have > > changed since then.  >
>> 
>> Then Marshal added:
>> 
>> > I believe that editing .Xresources will allow you to change
>> the fonts > of various Xclients.  I know it does for emacs
>> anyways.  There was a > thread earlier about changing fonts for
>> netscape.  > > 2bits.  > > Marshal
>> 
>> And Kent's reply: I could be mistaken, but I believe the title
>> of this thread is misleading.  I think John means the console
>> font, not an xterm font.
>> 
>> 

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Re: Converting text to Word

[Matthew Dalton]

Bruce Sass wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 13 Apr 2000, Paul Huygen wrote:
> > 2) You want to send a Word document to somebody who wants to process it
> >with Word. In that case, send her the plain ASCI text, and tell her
> >that she can import it in Word by clicking  [text
> >files].
> 
> That's the one, (Un)fortunately he is rather inflexible (I mean, would
> I want to work for a company like that?).


There is another option: create the plain text file, but give it's
filename a *.doc extension. It will show up in windows explorer with a
Word icon, and will open without having to click 'import as'.

Matthew

Re: perl is bent (not broke; just bent)

[Oki DZ]

On Thu, 13 Apr 2000, w trillich wrote:
> this doesn't look hard to fix, but it's possible that whatever
> causes this might be happening on all your installs, maybe?

I have the same problem, but related to DBI.pm; so that I couldn't start
gnudip. And when it couldn't be started, perl stopped in the middle of
execution, the outcome was that adduser couldn't be executed.
 
> or, again, maybe it's just me?

I think the answer would be: no.

Oki

Re: can I change the font of default "xterm"?

[Chris Gray]

On Thu, Apr 13, 2000 at 11:27:39PM +, john smith wrote:
> yes. actually what I meant to ask was the fonts for the terminals when you 
> press alt+f1,f2 etc..

First of all, you can't change it to a true type font as far as I know.
*But* you can make it much nicer.  The way I did it involves some kernel
configuring, and it might also not work on all systems.  So if you try
it, make sure that you have a backup kernel image to boot into.

So, now that the formalities are over, here's how you do it.  

1) You go into your kernel source tree and make menuconfig (or xconfig)
2) Turn on the experimental stuff in Code Level Maturity Options.
3) Go to Console Drivers.
4) Select VGA text console and video mode selection support.
5) Go to Frame buffer support and turn on frame buffer devices
6) Select the video card that you have, or if it's not listed VESA VGA
graphics console.  Resist the temptation to use modules.  They don't
work.
7) Turn on Advanced low level driver options, and select everything from
mono to 32 bpp
8) Turn on Select compiled in fonts.  (This is the fun part)
9) I really like the Sparc console 12x22 font, and it's the only one
that I selected.  It seems to me that it has to be the only one that you
select for you to use it.
10) That's it with kernel configuration.  Now compile the newly
configured kernel.  Make sure that you don't overwrite your last one,
you'll want it if things go wrong.
11) I added the line append="video=atyfb:1024x768-60,font:SUN12x22" to
my /etc/lilo.conf for the part which contained the new kernel.  This
depends on which card you chose when configuring.
12) When the kernel's done compiling, run lilo.
13) Reboot.  If things went well, you should now have a really nice font
to look at.  If the only problem is that your resolution is now out of
whack, you can use the fbset utility to fix it.  The command line that I
use is "fbset 1024x768-60".
14) Salt to taste.

Good luck,
Chris Gray

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Installing Netscape6

[Vitux]

Please forgive me if this is a faq, but I couldn't find it
in the recent list-archives:
How would I go about installing the new Netscape(Mozilla)
6.0?
I've d/l'ed the tarball, unpacked it, and there's no readme,
no ns-install (like in 4.72), no docs whatsoever!?
So, I figure I'll try the "netscape"-file which is in the
top-directory. I know very little about scripts, but this
could be an install-script. It aborts with something about
missing libc6-1.1.2 (typing from memory).
Does this mean that I am missing some libs?
Maybe the new netscape needs Potato-libs?
Running Slink, kernel 2.2.14, [EMAIL PROTECTED]/128Mb.
Thanks
Vitux

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Micro$loth-free Zone

Re: debian on newer kernel

[Vitux]

Sunil Pandey wrote:
> 
> I am trying to install  debian  2.1r5(slink)  on  my  comp.  One
> question that I want to ask is.. is it  possible  to  get  debian  for a
> newer version of kernel (say like kernel 2.2.1).
> 
> --
> Sunil Pandey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> Doubt is a programmer's BEST enemy.
> 
>   
>Part 1.2Type: application/pgp-signature
Sure, no problem. Running a standard Slink, with 2.2.14
kernel. The new kernels are really good! It actually gave me
slightly more speed on my previous machine, a 486/100.
Compiling a kernel is not that hard, and it gives you a
faster boot, and a faster machine, since you can tailor the
kernel to your needs.
Checkout the kernel-howto at Debian.org for more info.
Regards
Vitux

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Re: Gnome/Enlightenment Setup.

[Oki DZ]

On Thu, 13 Apr 2000, Henry Kleynhans wrote:
> method of doing things.  Can someone please enlighten me on how to 
> get Gnome and Enlightenment setup together ?

Assuming that your X is already running...
apt-get install gdm
apt-get instal gmc
apt-get install enlightenment

then reboot or just type "gdm." (without the dot, of course; that's
English req's, right?)

Oki

Re: debian on newer kernel

[Vitux]

John Kuhn wrote:
> 
> On Thu, Apr 13, 2000 at 08:52:34PM +0200, Meinolf Sander wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 13, 2000, Sunil Pandey wrote:
> > > I am trying to install  debian  2.1r5(slink)  on  my  comp.  One
> > > question that I want to ask is.. is it  possible  to  get  debian  for a
> > > newer version of kernel (say like kernel 2.2.1).
> >
> > You can run 2.1r5 with a e.g. 2.2.14 kernel without any problem.
> > Just download the kernel sources and compile one customized to
> > your system.
> > Or you get yourself Debian Potato 2.2 (frozen), which is delivered
> > with this kernel.
> 
> My experiance was that 2.2.13 is the latest stable kernel that you
> can run on slink without updating any other packages.  Kernel 2.2.14
> would require installing a newer procps (2.0.3 or later).
> 
> John
> 
> --
Not in my experience. I got the kernel-source for 2.2.14
from kernel.org and did a "manual" compile/install (if that
makes any difference, I can't say).
I've had no trouble whatsoever and the system is rock stable
(except from occasional hardware-related stuff ;-)

Vitux

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Re: Upgrade to 500MHz problems

[Oki DZ]

On 14 Apr 2000, Bruce Stephens wrote:
> Don't know why Linux should fail to shut down properly, though.  Could
> it be one of these motherboards that requires APM shutdown to be done
> in real mode and that's screwing things up?

I have potato running on a P. III/550Mhz, APM works fine.

OT a bit, I had a Mac IIsi in '94; so it takes ~5 years for Intel machines
to catch up on that "elegant shutdown system."

Oki

2 modems to the Internet

[Oki DZ]

Hi,

Is it possible to have two default routes to the Internet? I'm looking for
ways to do just that; connecting an additional modem for more bandwith.
But I don't need multi-link PPP, because one of the modems could be
disconnected any time to receive dial-ins. The modems are supposed to be
having the same speed.

Oki

Re: FontSet problem

[Eric G . Miller]

On Fri, Apr 14, 2000 at 01:23:37AM +1000, Shao Zhang wrote:
> Hi,
>   When I run gv, I got the following warning message. I think I am
>   missing some package, but I don't know what it is.
> 
>   [23:46|pts/[EMAIL PROTECTED] % gv ass1_report.ps 
>   Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion
>   Warning: Unable to load any usable fontset

I had this happen to me when I was playing with /etc/gs.Fontmap as per
some Font-HOWTO.  It didn't like the changes.  So, have you been messing
with /etc/gs.Fontmap?  If so, roll back your changes.

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Linux support ADSL?

[Jerry Zhou]

Hello:

I want to connect my linux to network by ADSL. Which ADSL card can work with
Linux? It is easy to config?

Regard

Jerry Zhou

Re: ppp-compress-1 strangeness

[Gregory T. Norris]

> After the connection has been established, I get this:
> modprobe: can't locate module ppp-compress-1

I haven't seen that one before... are you sure it isn't asking for
ppp-compress-21?  Anyway, here are my ppp-compress-* entries:

 alias ppp-compress-21 bsd_comp
 alias ppp-compress-24 ppp_deflate
 alias ppp-compress-26 ppp_deflate

You should probably add all three to your /etc/modutils/aliases file
(possibly also "alias ppp-compress-1 off", if that really is what it's
looking for).  Make sure you run /sbin/update-modules afterward.

Cheers!

receiving mail / qpopper

[ktb]

I have a small network with a firewall and another computer.  Both have
Slink installed.  On the firewall computer I have exim, fetchmail,
qpopper and mutt installed.  I can send and receive mail just fine from
the firewall.  What I want to do is send and receive from the other
computer.  At this point I can send mail from my second box but I can't
receive through Netscape mail.  When I try to get mail off the firewall
I get "Netscape is unable to locate the server 'one' Please check the
server name and try again.  In /etc/exim.conf I have "qualify_domain =
one"  I don't have smart hosting enabled -- do I have to?  I'm not quite
sure how that works.  I'm a little confused here.  I know I'm probably
not giving much to go on but that is the best I can do at this point.  I
will keep searching.
Thanks,
kent

Re: ftp.jimpick.com disappeared...

[Rick Macdonald]

On Wed, 12 Apr 2000, Eric G . Miller wrote:

> ftp.jimpick.com seems to have disappeared.  I was using it as a Debian
> non-US mirror.  Anybody know about this (or does it still resolve for
> you)?

apt-get update worked for me just now. I haven't been able to "mirror" on
any non-US site for about a year, so I have to get it off the net. (Care
to send me a working non-US mirror setup?)

timshel# apt-get update
Get:1 http://kde.tdyc.com potato/kde Packages [3271B] 
Hit http://kde.tdyc.com potato/kde Release  
Get:2 http://kde.tdyc.com potato/contrib Packages [18.4kB]  
Hit http://kde.tdyc.com potato/contrib Release  

Get:3 http://kde.tdyc.com potato/rkrusty Packages [2256B]  
Hit http://kde.tdyc.com potato/rkrusty Release 
Get:4 http://ftp.jimpick.com potato/non-US/main Packages [15.4kB]   
  
Hit http://ftp.jimpick.com potato/non-US/main Release   
  
Hit http://ftp.jimpick.com potato/non-US/contrib Packages   
  
Hit http://ftp.jimpick.com potato/non-US/contrib Release
  
Hit http://ftp.jimpick.com potato/non-US/non-free Packages  
  
Hit http://ftp.jimpick.com potato/non-US/non-free Release   
  
Fetched 39.4kB in 10s (3713B/s) 
  
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done

...RickM...

Re: Basic Question fot apt-get

[Alex Kwan]

Hi!

If I use apt-get to install a .deb package,
does the apt will find the dependent package
and install it, and check the conflict?

Thanks

problem creating boot floppy

[John Kiff]

I wasn't able to create a boot floppy during installation (of the frozen 
distribution) and I'm
having the same problem now that everything else is up and running. I'm pretty 
sure that I'm doing
everything correctly, but I keep getting back a bad disk or write-protected 
disk error. I've gone
through a whole pack of floppies and then some, I've made absolutely sure that 
the write-protect
tab is in the right position, and I've even tried floppies that work just fine 
on my other
Debian-loaded machine. They're all being rejected by mkboot. Have I run into a 
frozen distribution
bug, or am I just having really bad luck?

John Kiff

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Re: receiving mail / qpopper

[ktb]

I got it figured out.  From what I was reading I was lead to believe I was
suppose to put "one" as the server in the Netscape mailer.  I needed
to put "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" instead.  Sorry for the stupid post.
kent


On Thu, Apr 13, 2000 at 09:55:27PM -0500, ktb wrote:
> I have a small network with a firewall and another computer.  Both have
> Slink installed.  On the firewall computer I have exim, fetchmail,
> qpopper and mutt installed.  I can send and receive mail just fine from
> the firewall.  What I want to do is send and receive from the other
> computer.  At this point I can send mail from my second box but I can't
> receive through Netscape mail.  When I try to get mail off the firewall
> I get "Netscape is unable to locate the server 'one' Please check the
> server name and try again.  In /etc/exim.conf I have "qualify_domain =
> one"  I don't have smart hosting enabled -- do I have to?  I'm not quite
> sure how that works.  I'm a little confused here.  I know I'm probably
> not giving much to go on but that is the best I can do at this point.  I
> will keep searching.
> Thanks,
> kent
> 
> 
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MY DEBIAN INSTALL/UPGRADE METHOD [was Re: postgresql-test... NOT]

[w trillich]

in case it's useful, here's my crach-course of hard-knocks on HOW TO
GET A PACKAGE OPERATIONAL in debian these days (i.e. april 2000--of course,
with code being added all the time, debian changes by the minute and
this 
may become obsolete next tuesday--or seven years from now...)


Oliver Elphick wrote:
> 
> w trillich wrote:
>   ># su postgres
>   >> cd /usr/lib/postgresql/test/regress
>   >> make runtest
[snip]
>   >./regress.sh: ../../config.guess: No such file or directory
[snip]
>   >=== installing PL/pgSQL...=
>   >Cannot find the file /usr/lib/postgresql/lib/plpgsql.so
> 
> You need postgresql-pl, and postgresql-contrib, I think.
> 
> That's another dependency to go in.  That shows how many people have run
> the test package!

see, oliver's problem is that he doesn't know when to throw his hands
in the air and take off running for the hills... he keeps on being
helpful, darn it.


0. OBJECTIVE

okay. in order to get "postgresql-test" to work, according to the
guidance of the debian wonkmeister, i'll try the to do the
old "apt-get install" on these two new packages:
postgresql-pl
postgresql-contrib

here goes...


==
= here we go--the world-renowned
= TRILLICH PATTERN FOR SUCCESSFUL* DEBIN INSTALL:
==


1. WHICH DISTRIBUTION?

you'll be using apt-get to install debian things. (as of
april 2000, i hear this is the favored method.)

decide if you want packages or whole batch upgrades from
slink (debian 2.1)
potato (debian 2.2)
woody (debian 2.3 -- very experimental as i understand it)
and set your configuration files accordingly.

learn what you need to configure and where, here:
# man apt-get
# man apt-cache
# man apt.conf (/etc/apt/sapt.conf)
# man sources.list (/etc/apt/sources.list)
and at
http://www.debian.org/
click "installation instructions" under "Distribution"
for even more.

there's WAY more there than you'll probably ever need,
but browse thru the manpages so you won't be in the dark.

basically you'll usually only use
# apt-get install packageOne package_two
after your configuration is set, and
# apt-get --reinstall install this_package thatPackage
if you need to steamroll something

the old way to install things was
# dselect (screen-friendly point & select interface)
# dpkg (worked behind the scenes with dselect)
now i still used dpkg to hammer something down, but for the
most part stick with apt-get.

until something goes haywire. (just wait.)


2. BACKUP?

if i had any useful data or settings to preserve, i'd do so now.
email it to myself, shuffle it off to floppy, gzip it up in my
home directory, off to a jaz--no, wait, i might want it back...

files are available in *.rpm format. there is a utility
debian offers (alien) to translate those gadgets into debian
*.deb packages.

regarding those rpm files: DO NOT GO THERE unless you are 
desparate (or using redhat or one of its close cousins). it
may work, but it's no longer the preferred way of going about
this sort of thing for debian folk like you and me. not any
more. use "APT-GET" (or when the interface is ready, "APT"
itself).


3. APT-GET INSTALL

# apt-get install postgresql-{pl,contrib}

those are the two packages i wanted.

initial try fails with install errors--missing files, unresolved
dependencies, verious snags hither and yon. i'd almost be
disappointed if it didn't, by now. roll with the punches.

so i step back a bit, and 'set phasers to obliterate' since my
initial try fails.


4. DPKG --REMOVE

# dpkg -r postgresql-{pl,test,contrib}

note i'm removing the two i just had install troubles with,
AND the original dastardly creep that's causing the headaches
to begin with.


4a. DPKG --PURGE

# dpkg --purge postgresql-{pl,test,contrib}

in theory, --purge does everything that --remove does, plus a bit
more (namely removing config files). but it's more satisfactory
to do it in two passes--feels like you get to shoot it, and then 
bury it. very fulfilling. (reward yourself now and then, you 
deserve it.)

and let me warn you: even purge won't purge everything.
"can't remove xyzzy: directory not empty" is a message you'll
see often. it's just a hollow directory with an old file here
and there, so you can blast it by hand (rm -i -r xyzzy, be
careful to check the path you type before pressing return)
or just let it go since it'll be re-created momentarily.

once i get here i'm all clear. everything is gone. i'm tabula 
rasa (blank slate), ready to try again. now--retry:


5. APT-GET (again. if you can get away with just one, congratulations)

# apt-get install postgresql-{pl,test,contrib}

think of this as going back to step three, adding the
named of other packages you just purged.

if all doesn't go well, i try again, sometimes deinstalling an
uber-package... i.e. one that is crucial for the ones i'm dep

Re: apt-get upgrade, bad news SOLVED!

[w trillich]

"Eric G . Miller" wrote:
> 
> On Thu, Apr 13, 2000 at 04:16:18AM -0500, w trillich wrote:
> > the error messages i mentioned in my 'successful' (aka non-aborted)
> > apt-get dist-upgrade were still
> >   ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/lib/libMesaGLw.so (No such file or
> > directory), skipping
> >   ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/lib/libMesaGLwM.so (No such file
> > or directory), skipping
> >
> > by the ton, too. hundreds of 'm. is there a way i can get those files
> > and re-try the install? or is it optional? (if optional, maybe the messages
> > are unnecessary?)
> 
> apt-get install mesag3   # It provides the Mesa OpenGL clone libraries.
> apt-get install mesag3-widgets  # It provides libMesaGLwM.so
> 
> > oh, by the way--after doing
> >   # apt-get dist-upgrade
> > would a debianist, such as i, have a new kernel--say, 2.1?
> > i imagine i'd hafta restart the cpu to invoke it hmm?
> 
> I think the dist-upgrade will grab kernel-2.2.14.  And, that's the one
> time a reboot is required. You might get some errors about modules if
> you were previously using 2.0 series.

i did dist-upgrade (frozen) after update of course, and was never
asked to restart.

install help with a SCSI CDROM on a 486

[wganz]

I've been fighting this Debian install for 3 weeks and am about tired of it.
If I don't get an answer here, then I am taking the damn CD to the skeet
range. OK, here is what I got:

Debian 2.1 bootable CD, official type that comes in the box, has the Debian
tm logo on it and the O'Rielly cow book in the box with it

Desired packages:
Perl(full install not just the basic package), Python, gcc, apache/httpd,
mySQL

Compaq Prolinea 4/66 20megsRAM  < a 486>
Fujitsu 4.3 HD partitioned as:
 hda1 := 2048
 hda5 := 1024 
 hda6 := 1024 
 hda7 := 0033 Linux swap 
 hda8 := 0033 somehow generated in one of the install attempts, delete later

Netgear/Bay Network EA201 D2  NIC
Adaptec AVA-1505A hooked to an internal IBM/Matsuhita CR-503-C
CDROM is at SCSI#3
during DOS bootup it shows the card as
 Host Adapter #0
 Port 140h
 Interrupt 10
 Host Adapter SCSI ID = 7

One of the references that I found is at

http://customer.support.redhat.com/rhoaprod/plsql/xxrh_know_pkg.srch2?p_id=1
20

and its example was   aha152x=0x340,10,7
however, I believe that I should have aha152x=0x140,10,7 due to the IO
address

Now I can click Win95 Start, Shutdown to DOS, go to the CDROM as I:\ in
Win98DOS, cd install, invoke boot.bat, select color, select USA keyboard,
partition hda1 as ext2~>Write~>yes,~>Quit init&activate swap hda7, init
/dev/hda1, "skip the bad block check since it has been done about 20 times
without finding anything", mount as /, Install Operating System Kernel and
Modules, Select CDROM as medium, select /dev/scd0 : SCSI, and bleewy "NO
SCSI ADAPTER DETECTED"

The question remains, where do I tell Debian to aha152x=0x140,10,7 in this
process?? I don't see a place to pass these parameters to the install
program. What am I missing???

Also, when I get to modules, what module do I load for the NIC??

Any help will be appreciated,


Will

Re: Basic Question fot apt-get

[Oki DZ]

On Fri, 14 Apr 2000, Alex Kwan wrote:
> If I use apt-get to install a .deb package,
> does the apt will find the dependent package
> and install it, and check the conflict?

Yes, if you get the packages via http (or ftp?).  If you have the .deb
files, then you use dpkg (eg: dpkg -i package.deb).  Apt will get all the
packages listed in the dependency tree that are related to the package you
are installing for you; whereas dpkg checks the unmet dependency.

Oki

Re: Need Help About SSL Certificate

[Andy Bradford]

Thus said Serhat Artun on Tue, 11 Apr 2000 15:23:39 +0300:

> $ make certificate TYPE=custom
> 
> but it doesnt work or I couldnt make it if you know how can I create
> basicly 

I don't know anything about making certificates for SSL, however, if it 
is using a Makefile, which I assume it must since you are using make, 
then you should do

$ make TYPE=custom certificate

Andy
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Re: problem creating boot floppy

[Oki DZ]

On Thu, 13 Apr 2000, John Kiff wrote:

> I'm pretty sure that I'm doing everything correctly, but I keep getting
> back a bad disk or write-protected disk error.

Make sure that you don't have any floppy with bad sectors. You can format
the floppies on a running Linux machine using fdformat (fdformat
/dev/fd0u1440) or superformat (superformat /dev/fd0); on fdformat, "done"
has to be returned; on superformat, you can see every track that's being
formatted.
 
> I've gone through a whole pack of floppies and then some, I've made
> absolutely sure that the write-protect tab is in the right position, and
> I've even tried floppies that work just fine on my other Debian-loaded
> machine. They're all being rejected by mkboot. Have I run into a frozen
> distribution bug, or am I just having really bad luck? 

Maybe it was just a bad luck; I had the same problem the other day, at a
time, I could create a boot floppy, but not on other time. 

But if you have a running Debian machine, making a boot floppy is not that
difficult:
superformat /dev/fd0
dd if=/vmlinuz of=/dev/fd0 conv=sync
rdev /dev/fd0 /dev/
rdev -R /dev/fd0 1

So, even if dbootstrap couldn't create the boot floppy, use the one you
created as above.

Oki

Re: Converting text to Word

[Brian Stults]

> Which editors can output in Word format
> (assuming that any editor can import plain text)?
> 

Not exactly an editor, but the beta version of StarOffice can write a
Word2000 document:

http://www.sun.com/staroffice

The installation file is huge, and the program will suck up your
resources.  Still, I find the suite to be pretty amazing.

Beware of broken perl installation

[Oki DZ]

I have a system with broken perl installation, the output of
apt-get -s install perl is attached below.
It's kinda scary, isn't it...?

The installed perl (according to dpkg) is perl-5.005, why did I get
"perl-5.004" to be installed? 

BTW, I installed the machine using potato floppies, then I changed the
sources.list to point to frozen. I recall that I didn't do "apt-get
update;apt-get dist-upgrade", just "apt-get update;apt-get upgrade." Do I
have to "dist-upgrade" to upgrade potato to frozen? Or, actually the
meaning should be the opposite; potato to frozen is downgrading. Or, it
could be just about time; OK potato, but potato when?

Oki
ps: sorry about the not so correct English.


Reading Package Lists...
Building Dependency Tree...
The following extra packages will be installed:
  gdk-imlib1 gnome-libs-data libart2 libopenldap-runtime perl-5.004
  perl-5.004-base perl-5.004-doc postgresql-client 
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  debconf esound esound-common gmc gnome-bin gnome-core gnudip horde imp
  libdbd-mysql-perl libdbi-perl libdigest-md5-perl libesd-alsa0 libgnome32
  libgnomesupport0 libgnomeui32 libgnorba27 libgnorbagtk0 mysql-client
  mysql-server perl-5.005 perl-5.005-base snort 
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  perl perl-5.004 perl-5.004-base perl-5.004-doc postgresql-client 
4 packages upgraded, 5 newly installed, 23 to remove and 131 not upgraded.
1 packages not fully installed or removed.
Remv imp
Remv gnudip
Remv horde
Remv mysql-server
Remv mysql-client
Inst perl-5.004-base [perl-5.005 on perl-base]
Remv gmc
Remv libgnorba27 [gnome-bin ]
Remv gnome-core [gnome-bin ]
Remv libgnome32 [gnome-bin ]
Remv libgnomesupport0 [gnome-bin ]
Remv libgnomeui32 [gnome-bin ]
Remv gnome-bin [libgnorbagtk0 ]
Remv libgnorbagtk0

exim as mail"hub" on a dialup line

[Robert Waldner]

Hi!

At home, I have my debian box acting as masquerading gateway/mail-/fileserver 
et al for my local network. The clients have the box as outgoing mailserver,  
which works fine as long as the box is actually connected to the internet.

What I can´t figure out is to get it to accept mail from the clients and just 
stow it away in the queue even when it´s not connected to the internet.

When I telnet in on port 25 from one of the clients and issue the appropriate 
HELO bla, it tries to resolve the hostname with its forwarding nameserver, 
which of course times out. When I´m telnetting to port 25 on localhost, it 
doesn´t ?!

Now I´m running a local nameserver which has entries for the clients and the 
proper reverse-lookups, so it shouldn´t try to contact its forwarding 
nameserver. This works fine when issuing a ´host bla´ from the commandline, but 
not when exim is trying to resolve.

Any help/advice/rtfm-pointer would be most appreciated, I seem to be finally 
stuck with what I call knowledge :/

TIA,
&rw


Following are the relevant (at least I hope :) config portions:

/etc/exim.conf:
qualify_domain = waldner.priv.at
local_domains = waldner.priv.at:WatchZwerg.waldner.priv.at:watchdog.waldner.priv
.at::localhost
local_domains_include_host = true
local_domains_include_host_literals = true
#host_lookup = 0.0.0.0/0
#rbl_domains = rbl.maps.vix.com
#rbl_reject_recipients = true
#rbl_warn_header = false
host_accept_relay = "192.168.0.0/16:193.80.224.96/30:127.0.0.0/8"

/etc/bind/named.conf:
options {
directory "/etc/bind";
forward only;
forwarders {
//192.16.202.11;
192.92.138.35;
193.81.83.2;
};
zone "intern.waldner.priv.at" {
type master;
file "named.intern";
};

zone "0.168.192.in-addr.arpa" {
type master;
file "192.168.0";
};

/etc/bind/named.intern:
eth0.WatchZwerg IN  A   192.168.0.99 //ethernet-if to local network
BaerenHoehleIN  A   192.168.0.1  //one of the client-boxes

/etc/bind/192.168.0:
99  IN  PTR eth0.WatchZwerg.intern.waldner.priv.at.
1   IN  PTR BaerenHoehle.intern.waldner.priv.at.

/etc/resolv.conf:
search intern.waldner.priv.at waldner.priv.at at.eu.net austria.eu.net
nameserver 127.0.0.1




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Still some potato files after dist-upgrade?

[Jeronimo Pellegrini]

Hello,

  I was running potato and upgraded to slink (with dist-upgrade), and
  after that, I noticed a few funny things:

- login still tells me "potato"...

- before the upgrade, "/etc/debian_version" was "woody" (because
  sources.list had pointers to both frozen ad unstable, and I probably
  got base-files from there), but...
  After the upgrade, it says "2.2". Is this correct?

Thanks,
J.

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Institute of Computing - Unicamp - Brazil
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Still some potato files after dist-upgrade? - corrections

[Jeronimo Pellegrini]

:: On 14 Apr 2000 03:14:44 -0300, Jeronimo Pellegrini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:


Well, it seems that I'm not exactly awake. 

> Hello,
>   I was running potato and upgraded to slink

==> To woody, of course!!!

> (with dist-upgrade), and after that, I noticed a few funny things:

> - login still tells me "potato"...

> - before the upgrade, "/etc/debian_version" was "woody" (because
>   sources.list had pointers to both frozen ad unstable, and I probably
>   got base-files from there), but...
>   After the upgrade, it says "2.2". Is this correct?

==> And after the upgrade, I have pointers to unstable only in
sources.list, and it was some package from woody (probably base-files)
that modified /etc/debian_version.

> Thanks,
> J.



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http://www.dcc.unicamp.br/~jeronimo
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Re: Still some potato files after dist-upgrade?

[Ron Rademaker]

Upgraded from Potato to Slink That is a downgrade!!
Woody is 2.3, Potato 2.2 and Slink 2.1

What exactly IS your problem??

Ron Rademaker

On Fri, 14 Apr 2000, Jeronimo Pellegrini wrote:

> 
> Hello,
> 
>   I was running potato and upgraded to slink (with dist-upgrade), and
>   after that, I noticed a few funny things:
> 
> - login still tells me "potato"...
> 
> - before the upgrade, "/etc/debian_version" was "woody" (because
>   sources.list had pointers to both frozen ad unstable, and I probably
>   got base-files from there), but...
>   After the upgrade, it says "2.2". Is this correct?
> 
> Thanks,
> J.
> 
> -- 
> Jeronimo Pellegrini
> Institute of Computing - Unicamp - Brazil
> http://www.dcc.unicamp.br/~jeronimo
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
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Re: Upgrade to 500MHz problems

[Phillip Deackes]

John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've attempted to upgrade using 100MHz FSB for the first time. The new
> CPU is an AMD500K2, the Motherboard a Gigabyte GA-5AX (Rev5.2.x)
> (with ALi Aladdin chipset and Award bios) and a 64MB DIMM (100MHz).
> The machine is a standalone one with Win95 on a small partition on
> hda,
> Debian 2.1 (kernels 2.2.1 and 2.2.12) on hdb, and two other distros on
> smaller partitions. In the past, I've been lucky with upgrading - this
> time,
> however, I've problems and a puzzle.

Hi, John. I have the AT version of your motherboard, the GA-5AA. I too
have an AMD K6II-500 CPU.

A couple of things. If you go into the BIOS settings you will find an
option for loading failsafe settings (or some similar phrase). There are
two pre-set options, an optimum set which attempts to configure the
board with best-case settings, and the failsafe set which sets
everything consevatively and is designed for cases like yours. Load up
the failsafe set, and reboot. You should find that now all is well. The
technique now is to change things setting by setting until you get the
best settings for your system.

In my experience problems with 100 MHz Super Socket 7 motherboards is
*usually* related to memory. These boards use 100MHz memory and my
supplier tells me that they have a relatively high failure rate - I can
personally vouch for this as I build systems as a sideline. Bad memory
will cause the sort of problems you are seeing.

I have enable UDMA on my system too - get back to me if you want to set
this us - it reuires a patch to the kernel and a recompile.


--
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Using Storm Linux 2000

Problem compiling Debian "potato" - "make dep" errors

[Christophe ABRIAL]

Good morning to everybody,
 
I'm experiencing a problem throught the compilation 
of the kernel (version 2.2.14).
I've downloaded the sources from 
debian.org.
So, I'm in /usr/src/linux and I have made the 
"make config" to set my parameters.
But when I want to run "make dep", I've got 
the followings errors "scripts/mkdep.c    ctype.h : not such file 
or directory".
And, I don't understand why, because I've got 
the ctype.h module.
 
I'm sorry if it looks like a newbie question, 
but I really need help !!
 
Thak you very much...
 
Christophe Abrial.

Re: Problem compiling Debian "potato" - "make dep" errors

[Ron Rademaker]

Check if your libc6 is correctly installed (with all dependencies) and
working...

Ron Rademaker

On Fri, 14 Apr 2000, Christophe ABRIAL wrote:

> Good morning to everybody,
> 
> I'm experiencing a problem throught the compilation of the kernel (version 
> 2.2.14).
> I've downloaded the sources from debian.org.
> So, I'm in /usr/src/linux and I have made the "make config" to set my 
> parameters.
> But when I want to run "make dep", I've got the followings errors 
> "scripts/mkdep.cctype.h : not such file or directory".
> And, I don't understand why, because I've got the ctype.h module.
> 
> I'm sorry if it looks like a newbie question, but I really need help !!
> 
> Thak you very much...
> 
> Christophe Abrial.
> 

Re: Beware of broken perl installation

[Ron Rademaker]

I don't know about apt but about potato and frozen: potato == frozen
(frozen is simply a symlink to potato).

Ron Rademaker

On Fri, 14 Apr 2000, Oki DZ wrote:

> I have a system with broken perl installation, the output of
> apt-get -s install perl is attached below.
> It's kinda scary, isn't it...?
> 
> The installed perl (according to dpkg) is perl-5.005, why did I get
> "perl-5.004" to be installed? 
> 
> BTW, I installed the machine using potato floppies, then I changed the
> sources.list to point to frozen. I recall that I didn't do "apt-get
> update;apt-get dist-upgrade", just "apt-get update;apt-get upgrade." Do I
> have to "dist-upgrade" to upgrade potato to frozen? Or, actually the
> meaning should be the opposite; potato to frozen is downgrading. Or, it
> could be just about time; OK potato, but potato when?
> 
> Oki
> ps: sorry about the not so correct English.
> 
> 
> Reading Package Lists...
> Building Dependency Tree...
> The following extra packages will be installed:
>   gdk-imlib1 gnome-libs-data libart2 libopenldap-runtime perl-5.004
>   perl-5.004-base perl-5.004-doc postgresql-client 
> The following packages will be REMOVED:
>   debconf esound esound-common gmc gnome-bin gnome-core gnudip horde imp
>   libdbd-mysql-perl libdbi-perl libdigest-md5-perl libesd-alsa0 libgnome32
>   libgnomesupport0 libgnomeui32 libgnorba27 libgnorbagtk0 mysql-client
>   mysql-server perl-5.005 perl-5.005-base snort 
> The following NEW packages will be installed:
>   perl perl-5.004 perl-5.004-base perl-5.004-doc postgresql-client 
> 4 packages upgraded, 5 newly installed, 23 to remove and 131 not upgraded.
> 1 packages not fully installed or removed.
> Remv imp
> Remv gnudip
> Remv horde
> Remv mysql-server
> Remv mysql-client
> Inst perl-5.004-base [perl-5.005 on perl-base]
> Remv gmc
> Remv libgnorba27 [gnome-bin ]
> Remv gnome-core [gnome-bin ]
> Remv libgnome32 [gnome-bin ]
> Remv libgnomesupport0 [gnome-bin ]
> Remv libgnomeui32 [gnome-bin ]
> Remv gnome-bin [libgnorbagtk0 ]
> Remv libgnorbagtk0
> 
> 
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Re: mount & ownership problem (newbie, maybe)

[Ron Rademaker]

I'm not sure but I think a chmod on /dev/scd0 will work...
But as far as I know every user was always allowed to read a mounted
cdrom, I never had a permission denied...

Ron Rademaker

On Thu, 13 Apr 2000, Christian Pernegger wrote:

> Hello
> 
> I created the following mountpoint directories under /mnt
>   name(user/group)device  (user/group)
>   floppy  (root/floppy)   /dev/fd0(root/floppy)
>   cdrom   (root/cdrom)/dev/scd0   (root/cdrom)
>   burner  (root/cdrom)/dev/scd1   (root/cdrom)
> 
> Now if I want to mount the cd rom:
> 
> # su
> ...
> # mount /mnt/cdrom
> 
> That works fine. The only problem is, after that the /mnt/cdrom dir's
> ownerships will be (root/root) and thus inaccessible by members of the cdrom
> group. If I unmount it, everything is back to normal...
> 
> How do I allow a group to access a mountpoint when the device is mounted?
> 
> Christian
> 
> 
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Re: Trying to run one process as root, how?

[Ron Rademaker]

You should set your environmental DISPLAY variable...

Ron Rademaker

On Thu, 13 Apr 2000, Bryan Walton wrote:

> Greetings to the list,
>   I have a situation where I need to run one program as root,
> through an x terminal, while my x windows session is being run as
> non-root.  When I open up an x terminal in this environment, become
> superuser, and then execute the program, the program fails with the
> following message:
>   Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
>   Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server
>   Error: Can't open display: :0.0
> Any ideas?
> Thanks,
> Bryan
> 
> 
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Re: Help with GDM

[Miles Lane]

I have a different problem with GDM2.  I am running the
latest development kernels.  Unfortunately, the way
shrmem works has been changed.  Now, prebuilt GDM packages
give me executables that crash when I run them.  I am 
left attempting to get GDM2 to run after building and
installing it from CVS source.  

The problem I have is that I cannot seem to get the 
Xauth stuff to work.  I have added the requisite 
entries to /etc/pam.d/gdm, I have the /var/gdm
directory correctly configured, permissions and 
ownershipwise.  I am totally flumoxed.  I have tried
for over a day to get the damn thing to work, to
no avail.  I've tried setting the various "dir" prefixes
to make sure all my settings were being found, but that
hasn't helped.

I must say, a fairly obvious "fix" that would seem to
me to be obvious would be to have the installation
proceedure check which distribution was being used
(at least for Mandrake, SUSE, RedHat, Debian) and 
then install the various pieces in the same places
that the packages for those distributions use.
It just seems that setting up GDM is harder than it
needs to be (comments in the gdm2/INSTALL notwithstanding).

Miles

On Mon, 10 Apr 2000, Eric Gillespie, Jr. wrote:

> I've just upgrade from Debian 2.1 to unstable, and i have
> everything working except gdm. X comes up, and i can see that
> /etc/gdm/Init/Default is being run because the xsetroot command
> there turns the background blue, but this script does not
> complete because the xterm it's supposed to run never appears.
> Then X dies. This happens about 5 more times, and then i'm left
> with X running, along with my xterm and gdmlogin. gdm is no
> longer running at this point. gdmlogin reads in my username and
> password, but then disappears, but both X and the xterm are still
> running. I have to ctrl-alt-backspace it.
> 
> Attached are the relevant parts of /var/log/syslog and the only
> two files i've modified from the default debian install,
> /etc/gdm/Init/Default and /etc/gdm/gdm.conf.
> 
> -- 
> Eric Gillespie, Jr. <*> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> "Let us be thankful we have commerce. Buy more. Buy more now.
>  Buy. And be happy."
> --OMM (THX 1138)
> 

7-bit PPP

[Oki DZ]

Hi,

I'm having problem setting up a PPP connection on Debian; one of the side
complained that the line was not "8-bit clean." Is this kind of problem
due to the settings in /etc/ppp/options or is it a hardware problem? (Some
motherboards have BIOS setting for serial lines.) 

How do you setup a machine that's used for dial-in and dial-out regarding
to the IP numbers? I'd like to have it to accept the remote IP if the
machine is for dialing-out and giving out an IP number when it's used for
servicing dial-ins. What is /etc/ppp/options.ttyXX for? Is it for dial-out
or dial-in? And what about /etc/ppp/options? Is it used for both?

Thanks in advance,
Oki

Having trouble with USR v90 56K Internal Voice modem

[Richard Broza]

Good Morning;

I've just recently installed debian on my computer. I'm having trouble
with 2 things.

1) I recently purchased a USR v90 56k Internal Voice modem, I tryed to detect
   my modem under debian it couldn't find it. but apon checking windows it
listed as COM 5, how do I get debian to detect com5

2) Currently I use a boot disk to access debian partition, because when I
previously installed it. It didn't detect and was unable my dos/win partition

wyldkard lilo.conf

boot=/dev/hda1
root=/dev/hda3
install=/boot/boot.b
map=boot/map
delay=20
image=/vmlinuz
label=linux
read-only
other=/dev/hda1
label=dos
table=/dev/hda

I after saving this lilo.conf ran the /sbin/lilo to update it,
but apon rebooting it was only able to executed my linux partition, tho it
show apon press the crtl + tab, it does show dos..

thanks

Richard Broza
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Converting text to Word

[Paul Huygen]

Bruce Sass <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> 2) You want to send a Word document to somebody who wants to process it
>>with Word. In that case, send her the plain ASCI text, and tell her
>>that she can import it in Word by clicking  [text
>>files].

> That's the one,[..]

There is one thing that you can do to help the Word user. In text
processors like Word, paragraphs are not separated into lines in the
electronic version, but only during the instantiation on screen or
paper. So, you could consider to remove single end-of-line characters,
but not double end-of-line characters with some scripting language like
awk.


Paul Huygen

Re: Beware of broken perl installation

[Chanop Silpa-Anan]

Once upon a time, I heard Oki DZ say

> I have a system with broken perl installation, the output of
> apt-get -s install perl is attached below.
  ^^^
That's the culprit, perl package is to be consider obsolete. use
apt-get install perl-5.005 instead.
> It's kinda scary, isn't it...?
No.

Chanop
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Some confusion with libraries and include files (HELP!!!!!)

[Taupter]

Hello!


I'm a bit in trouble here, and any help will be _very_ welcome!

Well,

Once upon a time, I had installed Slink. Some libs went old (GTK and a
large bunch), then I compiled them from source to use the newer
versions. Ok. Libs in /usr/local/lib e includes in /usr/local/include,
ok? I edited /etc/ld.so.conf to put /usr/local/bin before the system's
libraries. Everything worked fine...

Last month I upgraded Slink to Potato, then newer libs came, Glibc went
2.1, newer gcc, binutils and so. Then I tried to compile glTron. Error.
My previously compiled-from-source Mesa3D was disappeared. "Let's
install Mesa3D and Mesa3D-dev (apt) and edit ld.so.conf to look first
for the Debian libs"... ldconfig... glTron compiled, with two screens of
warning... Some errors with the source, I suppose... When I ran it, the
sound started to play, and 2 seconds after it segfaulted. "Let's try
another program!": XMMS. Compiled, installed and ran fine (till the
OpenGL vis-plugin).

Last night I tried to compile CodeCommander 0.4.0:

getprefs.C:15:assignment to 'GdkFont *' from 'gint' lacks a cast

Uh. I understood the error message (I know something about C/C++
programming), but...

I suppose that the creator of this program compiled his code sucessfully
before exposing its lines to the masses, as the glTron guy would do.
What makes me think that the problem is in my System.

It may be a wrong shot, but I'm suspecting that the system is trying to
compile using include files from a version of these libs, and trying to
link with mismatched versions of the libraries, causing mismatched
pointer types and so. What drives me to one question:

If /etc/ld.so.conf is the file who tells to my system where to find the
libraries to link, where is stored the information about what include
files to use at compile time?

Well, in the CodeCommander's Makefile, we have a "prefix = /usr/local",
an "includedir = ${prefix}/include" and an "oldincludedir =
/usr/include".

I a bit lost.

Any help will be _very,_very,_really_very_ welcome...|O


Taupter

Asus K7V motherboard

[Alfredo Amiel P. Leonardia]

Hi All,

Anybody out there using an Asus K7V motherboard?  It's very new and I
haven't found anything on the web concerning compatibility with linux or
lack thereof.  Any info?

Thanks in advance.

-A. Leonardia

Gnudip & DHCP serve

[Oki DZ]

Hi,

I'm looking for ways to update a Gnudip server by sending requests to a
DHCP server asking for all those available Windows names with their
respective IPs. How? Or should I just read the DHCP's RFC?

Thanks in advance,
Oki

Re: Having trouble with USR v90 56K Internal Voice modem

[Oswald Buddenhagen]

> 1) I recently purchased a USR v90 56k Internal Voice modem, I tryed to detect
>my modem under debian it couldn't find it. but apon checking windows it
> listed as COM 5, how do I get debian to detect com5
> 
are you sure, it is no winmodem? if it is ok, then you possibly have to
enable "extended serial port support" (or something like that) in the
kernel. possibly you have just to add some kernel parameter to lilo.conf 
...

> 2) Currently I use a boot disk to access debian partition, because when I
> previously installed it. It didn't detect and was unable my dos/win partition
> 
> wyldkard lilo.conf
> 
>   boot=/dev/hda1
>   root=/dev/hda3
>   install=/boot/boot.b
>   map=boot/map
>   delay=20
>   image=/vmlinuz
>   label=linux
>   read-only
>   other=/dev/hda1
>   label=dos
>   table=/dev/hda
> 
you have installed lilo in the boot sector of the dos partition. so if you
try to boot it from the menu, you will re-load lilo itself, so you
thoeretically get into a infinite loop.
make "boot=/dev/hda" to install it in the mbr. note, that you probably 
have to "sys c:" after a boot from a dos floppy to make dos bootable
again. 
oh - it surely won´t hurt, if you make the map= line
"map=/boot/map" 
 ^

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Debian

[Oki DZ]

Hi,

>From www.dictionary.com:
"/deb'ee`n/, *not* /deeb'ee`n/ The non-profit volunteer organisation
responsible for Debian GNU/Linux and Debian GNU/Hurd. Debian's Linux
distribution is dedicated to free and open source software; the main goal
of the distribution is to ensure that one can download and install a
fully-functional operating system that is completely adherent to the
Debian Free Software Guidelines (DFSG)." 

So, what's exactly the meaning of "Debian?" Is it a made up name or what?
It's nice to have "Debian" in a dictionary, but it doesn't explain the
meaning of the word.

BTW, the dictionary (if referring to "the Project") could have been made
simpler: 
Debian: a cool OS.

Oki

Re: Trying to run one process as root, how?

[Oswald Buddenhagen]

> You should set your environmental DISPLAY variable...
> 
it is set. otherwise he would get the message 
"... Xt error: Can't open display:" instead of

> > Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
> > Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server
> > Error: Can't open display: :0.0

;-)


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Debian

[Oki DZ]

Hi,

I see, DEBra and IAN Murdock.
It was in the dictionary, so it's a made up one.

BTW, the logo gives me an impression that Debian is a Genie in a bottle. 

Oki

ispell

[Oki DZ]

Hi,

If there's an ispell, where is the ithes?

Oki

Re: 2 modems to the Internet

[Oswald Buddenhagen]

> Is it possible to have two default routes to the Internet?
basically you cannot have two default routes, as this is a bit paradox.
you could set up some more complicated routing rules according to the
destinations. also, the kernel offers some options, which are enabled by
"advanced router" in the kernel network config. it supports multi-choice
routes, etc. 
don´t ask me, how to use it ... :-(

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Re: Installing Netscape6

[Oswald Buddenhagen]

> I've d/l'ed the tarball, unpacked it, and there's no readme,
> no ns-install (like in 4.72), no docs whatsoever!?
i found no install program, too. i guess, you have to un-tar it to it´s
final destination.

> So, I figure I'll try the "netscape"-file which is in the
> top-directory. I know very little about scripts, but this
> could be an install-script.
it is no installer, but the ready-to-run program.

> It aborts with something about
> missing libc6-1.1.2 (typing from memory).
> Does this mean that I am missing some libs?
> Maybe the new netscape needs Potato-libs?
yes. you need a newer glibc. as it is a really ugly thing to upgrade a
libc, you probably should upgrade you whole system to potato.

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Problem with telnetd

[Vicente Torres]

When I telnet my machine from another box,
I get following message

bash-2.02$ telnet mymachine
Trying XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX...
Connected to mymachine.
Escape character is '^]'.
telnetd: getpty: Permission denied
.
Connection closed by foreign host.
bash-2.02$ 

SSH works well. I think it was after upgrading
to woody when I started to get this problem.

any idea?

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request of help to make the network card work

[mauro faga]

I have a 3Com Etherlink iii 3c509b ISA PnP network card, located under
windows at IO=0x210, IRQ=5. When I try to load the module 3c509.o under
linux, it detects a card at IO=0x200, irq=3. The diagnostic PING doesn't
receive any response, as the addresses aren't correct. Any attempt to
configure the module (via modules.conf) with specified values results in a
IO_PARAM error. What can I do?

Thanks in advance
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What are the most common causes of linux system hangs?

[Joe Emenaker]

Aka... "why is my system so well hung?" :)

Every now and then, I'll have a Debian box that starts having fits of hard
system hangs. Sometimes, it goes away when I turn off a daemon. Other times,
it goes away when I put the hard drives in an entirely different computer.

Currently, I'm having this problem with one. Just... out of the blue, it
will hang dead in its tracks. The keyboard doesn't even wake the screen so I
can see if there are any kernel panic messages or anything. Ctrl-Alt-Del
doesn't do anything. I have to hit the rest button.

It doesn't seem to matter what's running becuase I've tried turning almost
all of the daemons (except cron and a couple of others) off, and it still
hung. It's happening more and more frequently, too. It used to be able to go
for a week or two. Now, it barely makes it more than 4 hours or so.

Now, I'm pretty certain that it's some hardware problem. But, I'd like to
avoid moving the whole system to a brand-new machine, find that the problem
has gone away, and conclude that there's just *something* bad about the old
server and that I need to chuck the whole thing.

So, I'd like to isolate the problem, if I could.

With that in mind, does anyone have any personal experience concerning what
the problem usually is in these cases? Motherboard? RAM? Has it ever helped
anyone to *under*clock the CPU?

I'm anxious for any ideas

- Joe

[Fwd: What are the most common causes of linux system hangs?]

[Vitux]

> Joe Emenaker wrote:
> >
> > Aka... "why is my system so well hung?" :)
> >
> > Every now and then, I'll have a Debian box that starts having fits of hard
> > system hangs. Sometimes, it goes away when I turn off a daemon. Other times,
> > it goes away when I put the hard drives in an entirely different computer.
> >
> > Currently, I'm having this problem with one. Just... out of the blue, it
> > will hang dead in its tracks. The keyboard doesn't even wake the screen so I
> > can see if there are any kernel panic messages or anything. Ctrl-Alt-Del
> > doesn't do anything. I have to hit the rest button.
> >
> > It doesn't seem to matter what's running becuase I've tried turning almost
> > all of the daemons (except cron and a couple of others) off, and it still
> > hung. It's happening more and more frequently, too. It used to be able to go
> > for a week or two. Now, it barely makes it more than 4 hours or so.
> >
> > Now, I'm pretty certain that it's some hardware problem. But, I'd like to
> > avoid moving the whole system to a brand-new machine, find that the problem
> > has gone away, and conclude that there's just *something* bad about the old
> > server and that I need to chuck the whole thing.
> >
> > So, I'd like to isolate the problem, if I could.
> >
> > With that in mind, does anyone have any personal experience concerning what
> > the problem usually is in these cases? Motherboard? RAM? Has it ever helped
> > anyone to *under*clock the CPU?
> >
> > I'm anxious for any ideas
> >
> > - Joe
> >
> > --
> Definitely not a good a idea to overclock, but I guess you
> know that.
> Most likely, you have some bad ram sitting in there, making
> the life of your server miserable. The 100Mhz ram is said to
> be more liable to crash, so it might be a good idea to try
> some different ram-setups.
> Some mobo's are also known to be more crashy than others,
> especially the cheap ones (you basically get what you pay
> for). I have a dual PII mobo from PC Chips, which is very
> fast when it's working, but has a tendency to hard-crash
> after maybe an hour...(luckily, I got almost for free :-)
> hth
> Vitux
> 
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RE: newbie question.

[Robert Varga]

On Thu, 13 Apr 2000, Christian Pernegger wrote:

> 
> >> On Thu, Apr 13, 2000 at 01:45:00PM +0200, Robert Varga wrote:
> 
> > The debian cd should contain the rtl8139.o file. It should install it, if
> > you select the rtl8139 module during the kernel module configuration phase
> > of the installing. If you want to reconfigure the installed modules of the
> > installation, you need to start from install the base system menu item.
> 
> Ah, I don't want to be such a wiseguy, but I'm quite sure that _all_ modules
> are installed regardless of what you select at install time.

I guess it's so. But then why did he not find it there? I have the
rlt8139.o in there.

> 
> The selection interface is just the program modconf, which you can rerun
> anytime. If a module is compiled at all in the debian standard kernel, it will
> show up there (under net)
> 

That's good to know. I used to forget to select some modules during
install, and after the next install phase the menu would not call the
module reconfiguration.

> I do not know what things modconf does, but it does add a line for the module
> to /etc/modules.
> 

Yes, if you selected the module.

Robert

Re: How to upgrade from slink to potato

[Alex Kwan]

Hi!


Because I am afraid the upgrade will loss my
nstalled application and user's information.
What is the safe way to upgrade slink to potato?

Thanks

Re: request of help to make the network card work

[Oswald Buddenhagen]

> I have a 3Com Etherlink iii 3c509b ISA PnP network card, located under
> windows at IO=0x210, IRQ=5. When I try to load the module 3c509.o under
> linux, it detects a card at IO=0x200, irq=3.
> Any attempt to
> configure the module (via modules.conf) with specified values results in a
> IO_PARAM error. What can I do?
> 
you probably have to install the isapnp package and configure the card
accordingly.
alternatively you can look in your bios setup under pci-options. there is
a switch "pnp os installed". turn it to "no". (this applies to award bios)

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Re: Debian

[Carl Fink]

On Fri, Apr 14, 2000 at 10:22:45PM +0700, Oki DZ wrote:
> 
> So, what's exactly the meaning of "Debian?" Is it a made up name or what?
> It's nice to have "Debian" in a dictionary, but it doesn't explain the
> meaning of the word.

http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-basic_defs.html#s-pronunciation
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Re: How to upgrade from slink to potato

[SCOTT FENTON]

If you hav a cable, DSL, or T* connection, wait for potato to stablize,
then run apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade

Alex Kwan wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> 
> Because I am afraid the upgrade will loss my
> nstalled application and user's information.
> What is the safe way to upgrade slink to potato?
> 
> Thanks
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Re: What are the most common causes of linux system hangs?

[Daniel Reuter]

Hello Joe,

On Fri, 14 Apr 2000, Joe Emenaker wrote:

> Currently, I'm having this problem with one. Just... out of the blue, it
> will hang dead in its tracks. The keyboard doesn't even wake the screen so I
> can see if there are any kernel panic messages or anything. Ctrl-Alt-Del
> doesn't do anything. I have to hit the rest button.
> 
> Now, I'm pretty certain that it's some hardware problem. But, I'd like to
> avoid moving the whole system to a brand-new machine, find that the problem
> has gone away, and conclude that there's just *something* bad about the old
> server and that I need to chuck the whole thing.
> 
> So, I'd like to isolate the problem, if I could.
> 
> With that in mind, does anyone have any personal experience concerning what
> the problem usually is in these cases? Motherboard? RAM? Has it ever helped
> anyone to *under*clock the CPU?
> 
> I'm anxious for any ideas

I can only tell you about some experiences I made with an old 486,
which I got very cheap without a harddisc. I bought an IDE-HD and put it
in, installed debian and I also got occasional system crashes with exactly
the same symptoms as you reported, except that it always occured, when
there was heavy I/O on the harddisc, and afterwards the hd-LED was always 
on. I also tried different settings, with the demons and so on, but it
didn't help. As I had a small DOS-Partition on the hard-drive, I booted
into DOS, just to test. The problem still occured. So it was quite clear
to me, that it should be a hardware matter.
In my case, it was easy to isolate the problem. I assumed, that the
computer had worked fine in the office, it had been used before (as some
kind of diskless terminal, booting from a network). So it was clear to me,
that it had to do something with the harddisc which I put in. First
thing, I did, was change the connector cable. Didn't help. As the harddisc
was new, I supposed, it could be a problem with the I/O-card, which was in
the computer. So I exchanged that one, and guess what? The thing worked
fine.

So in essence, I agree with you, that your Problem might most probably be
a hardware matter. But it could be very difficult to isolate the problem.
I am not an expert in hardware matters, but I don't think that
underclocking would be the way to go. If your motherboard and CPU fit
together, and they support the clock you are using, this shouldn't be a
problem (There was another mail on the debian-user list just recently,
saying that W95 was falling over on AMDs faster than 350MHz on certain
motherboards, but we're not talking about windoze in your case, and I
don't think this is a very common case).
I don't know, how BIOS RAM-Tests work, but I would first of all conclude,
that if this one never reports a problem, it should not be a problem with
the RAM.

Don't count on my tips too much, as I am not a techie, but just a "normal
user". But I just wanted to show you, how I would try to isolate the
problem:
Try removing or exchanging (one by one) those things from your system,
that could cause the crashes. Start with the components, which are most
likely to cause the problem, and which can most easily be
removed/exchanged (For example easy to exchange: connector cables). This
can be a very time consuming thing, but I don't see another way of
isolating hardware problems of such a kind, when you don't get error
reports or kernel-messages in case of a crash.

So this mail is perhaps not of much help for you, as I can't say: "This or  
that is definitely the thing to look at". But I also think, that this
would be impossible to do, as it can be many things in the inside of your 
computer, which can cause such problems.

Regards,
Daniel
 

ZyXEL ISDN external adapter

[Ximo Nadal]

Hello:

We have a ZyXEL Omni TA128 ISDN external adapter connected to a high
speed serial card (460 kbs). How we must configure linux (Debian) to
works fine with this harware (using two ISDN Channels)?

Where can we find documentation about this problem (or similar)?

Please help us 8-)

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dselect

[admar]

Hello.

I'm using Debian potato on my laptop at school where I have a fast and
free internet connection. At another computer at home, I'm using Debian
slink. I would like to put potato on that computer to, but that one has no
fast & free connection. That computer uses some packages not installed my
laptop. I would like to be able to download and not install those
packages on my laptop, then use apt-move to put them on the ftp of my
laptop and upgrade the other computer. 
It would also be nice if those packages were automatically updated on my
laptop every time I update the installed packages on my laptop.
Does anyone know a solution?

Admar Schoonen

PS: CC to my, since I'm not on the list

Re: install help with a SCSI CDROM on a 486

[Lehel Bernadt]

On Fri, 14 Apr 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I've been fighting this Debian install for 3 weeks and am about tired of it.
> If I don't get an answer here, then I am taking the damn CD to the skeet
> range. OK, here is what I got:
> 
> Debian 2.1 bootable CD, official type that comes in the box, has the Debian
> tm logo on it and the O'Rielly cow book in the box with it
> 
> Desired packages:
> Perl(full install not just the basic package), Python, gcc, apache/httpd,
> mySQL
> 
> Compaq Prolinea 4/66 20megsRAM  < a 486>
> Fujitsu 4.3 HD partitioned as:
>  hda1 := 2048
>  hda5 := 1024 
>  hda6 := 1024 
>  hda7 := 0033 Linux swap 
>  hda8 := 0033 somehow generated in one of the install attempts, delete later
> 
> Netgear/Bay Network EA201 D2  NIC
> Adaptec AVA-1505A hooked to an internal IBM/Matsuhita CR-503-C
> CDROM is at SCSI#3
> during DOS bootup it shows the card as
>  Host Adapter #0
>  Port 140h
>  Interrupt 10
>  Host Adapter SCSI ID = 7
> 
> One of the references that I found is at
> 
> http://customer.support.redhat.com/rhoaprod/plsql/xxrh_know_pkg.srch2?p_id=1
> 20
> 
> and its example was   aha152x=0x340,10,7
> however, I believe that I should have aha152x=0x140,10,7 due to the IO
> address
> 
> Now I can click Win95 Start, Shutdown to DOS, go to the CDROM as I:\ in
> Win98DOS, cd install, invoke boot.bat, select color, select USA keyboard,
> partition hda1 as ext2~>Write~>yes,~>Quit init&activate swap hda7, init
> /dev/hda1, "skip the bad block check since it has been done about 20 times
> without finding anything", mount as /, Install Operating System Kernel and
> Modules, Select CDROM as medium, select /dev/scd0 : SCSI, and bleewy "NO
> SCSI ADAPTER DETECTED"
> 
> The question remains, where do I tell Debian to aha152x=0x140,10,7 in this
> process?? I don't see a place to pass these parameters to the install
> program. What am I missing???

You don't have to tell it to the install program, you have to tell it to the
kernel. When you boot the cd you get the kernel "boot:" line on the very first
screen; you have to enter the params here. You can also get some help by
pressing F1.

Re: debian on newer kernel

[John Kuhn]

On Fri, Apr 14, 2000 at 08:18:33AM +0200, Vitux wrote:
> John Kuhn wrote:
> >
> > My experiance was that 2.2.13 is the latest stable kernel that you
> > can run on slink without updating any other packages.  Kernel 2.2.14
> > would require installing a newer procps (2.0.3 or later).
> > 
> > John
> > 
> > --
> Not in my experience. I got the kernel-source for 2.2.14
> from kernel.org and did a "manual" compile/install (if that
> makes any difference, I can't say).
> I've had no trouble whatsoever and the system is rock stable
> (except from occasional hardware-related stuff ;-)
> 
> Vitux

I did a "manual" compile/install of 2.2.14.  The kernel itself did
work fine.  I found that "ps", "top" and friends from procps 1.2.9-3
did not work correctly with the new kernel.  Checking
/usr/src/linux/Documentation/Changes I found that procps 2.0.3 or
newer is required for kernel 2.2.14.  The Changes file for 2.2.13
indicated that procps 1.2.9 would work with this version.  Since
I consider procps an essential package, I had two choices at this
point.  I could have compiled a new version of procps or moved back
to kernel 2.2.13.  Neither is difficult, but for now I chose to
use kernel 2.2.13.

John

Re: Debian

[Christian Surchi]

On Fri, Apr 14, 2000 at 10:22:45PM +0700, Oki DZ wrote:
> So, what's exactly the meaning of "Debian?" Is it a made up name or what?
> It's nice to have "Debian" in a dictionary, but it doesn't explain the
> meaning of the word.

DEBra and IAN Murdock!

bye
Christian

2.2.14 vs procps [was: debian on newer kernel]

[Vitux]

John Kuhn wrote:
> 
> On Fri, Apr 14, 2000 at 08:18:33AM +0200, Vitux wrote:
> > John Kuhn wrote:
> > >
> > > My experiance was that 2.2.13 is the latest stable kernel that you
> > > can run on slink without updating any other packages.  Kernel 2.2.14
> > > would require installing a newer procps (2.0.3 or later).
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > > --
> > Not in my experience. I got the kernel-source for 2.2.14
> > from kernel.org and did a "manual" compile/install (if that
> > makes any difference, I can't say).
> > I've had no trouble whatsoever and the system is rock stable
> > (except from occasional hardware-related stuff ;-)
> >
> > Vitux
> 
> I did a "manual" compile/install of 2.2.14.  The kernel itself did
> work fine.  I found that "ps", "top" and friends from procps 1.2.9-3
> did not work correctly with the new kernel.  Checking
> /usr/src/linux/Documentation/Changes I found that procps 2.0.3 or
> newer is required for kernel 2.2.14.  The Changes file for 2.2.13
> indicated that procps 1.2.9 would work with this version.  Since
> I consider procps an essential package, I had two choices at this
> point.  I could have compiled a new version of procps or moved back
> to kernel 2.2.13.  Neither is difficult, but for now I chose to
> use kernel 2.2.13.
> 
> John
> 
> --
Very strange, I'm running 2.2.14 and procps 1.2.9-3, with
top and ps functioning as usual. Can't recall doing anything
spicey during my kernel-install (seriously doubt it; still a
relative kernel-newbie). 
Looking through my boot-messages, there is one strangeness,
though probably unrelated: "process accounting" fails w/
"not available". "Process accounting" belongs to the acct
package, which I can't remove?!
Regards

Vitux

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Re: Gnome desktop

[John Stevenson]

You shoud really just edit the .xsession file in your user directory,
/home/username/.xsession
You do not need to include a command to run the window manager (fvwm2), 
gnome-session
will do that for you.
Check that you dont have a .xinitrc file in your home directory as this will 
override
the .xsession file and cause it not to be looked at.

Johnny.

Sandy Shapiro wrote:

> I think I am already doing that, althought I may not have done it
> correctly. I edited "Xsession" and added the lines:
>
> fvwm2 &
> exec /usr/bin/gnome-session
>
> I also tried adding the line:
>
> gmc &
>
> but that didn't make any difference.
>
> Did I leave something out, or do I need to do this differently?
>
> Thanks,
> Sandy
>
> >Alternitvely, you could use gnome-session which will run gmc and the
> >gnome panel (an anything from previous sessions) for you.  Create a
> >.xinitrc file in your users home directory and include the following
> >line:
>
> >gnome-session
>
> >Hope this helps.
> >Johnny.
>
> >Marshal Kar-Cheung Wong wrote:
>
> >> > "Sandy" == Sandy Shapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >>
> >> > I installed Debian (slink) and the X Window system. My "manual"
> >> > that came with the CD, "Learning Debian Gnu/Linux" has a section
> >> > on using GNOME.
> >>
> >> > Most of the things they refer to are there, but two are missing:
> >> > home directory icon and File Manager. I suspect they didn't get
> >> > installed. I used dselect to check the CD Rom, but I can't find
> >> > any Gnome related files that are uninstalled.
> >>
> >> > Are they listed under another name? Is there some other way to
> >> > complete the installation? I kind of enjoy using Gnome, and I
> >> > would like to find and install the rest of it.
> >>
> >> They are both the same think.  You need the gmc package, and just run
> >> gmc when you are in X windows.
> >>
> >> Marshal
> >>
> >> > Thanks,
> >>
> >> > Sandy Shapiro
> >>
> >> > -- Unsubscribe?  mail -s unsubscribe
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Re: What are the most common causes of linux system hangs?

[Keith G. Murphy]

Joe Emenaker wrote:
> 
[cut]
> With that in mind, does anyone have any personal experience concerning what
> the problem usually is in these cases? Motherboard? RAM? Has it ever helped
> anyone to *under*clock the CPU?
> 
You could try memtest86 to test the memory.

2 newbie questions

[Peter Solinsky]

I have a boca-research modem which is PNP compatable but debian can't 
detect it.  Do I need to manually set the jumpers for and open COM and IRQ 
for it to be recognized?


2nd:  I am having trouble getting xwindows to work properly.  When I run 
xf86config and set the card for SVGA, my monitor blanks and I get nothing, 
the main problem is I cannot get linux to reboot without entering xwin at 
startup which means my screen blanks at startup and I can't rerun config 
w/o wiping everything and starting over.


I would appreciate any help.

Thanks

Peter

Re: 7-bit PPP

[John Hasler]

Oki writes:
> I'm having problem setting up a PPP connection on Debian; one of the side
> complained that the line was not "8-bit clean." Is this kind of problem
> due to the settings in /etc/ppp/options or is it a hardware problem?

Neither.  It means that pppd is starting up at your end while a login
process is still running at the other end, echoing everything while it
waits for what it needs to complete the login.  The login process is
expecting test and so is stripping the eighth bit.  Dial in with minicom
and work through the login process by hand to find out what your ISP wants.

> How do you setup a machine that's used for dial-in and dial-out regarding
> to the IP numbers?

Use pppconfig to set it up for dial-out and then use pon to start ppp and
poff to stop it.

> I'd like to have it to accept the remote IP if the machine is for
> dialing-out and giving out an IP number when it's used for servicing
> dial-ins.

Dial-in and dial-out are completely independent.  Use mgetty with AUTOPPP
for dial-in.

> What is /etc/ppp/options.ttyXX for?

It contains pppd options that are only read when the connection is made via
that particular serial port.

> Is it for dial-out or dial-in?

Either, though it is usually used for dial-in.  You need not be concerned
with it, though.  Leave it alone.

> And what about /etc/ppp/options? Is it used for both?

/etc/ppp/options is read whenever pppd starts up.  It should contain
options that apply to all connections.  They can be overrridden by options
from other sources.  Don't change it.

-- 
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI

Re: ftp.jimpick.com disappeared...

[Eric G . Miller]

After more than 24 hours and a bitchy letter to my ISP, ftp.jimpick.com
now resolves again.  No clue why it disappeared, except my ISP has
changed hands recently

On Thu, Apr 13, 2000 at 01:23:16AM -0700, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 12, 2000 at 11:13:58PM -0700, Eric G . Miller wrote:
> > ftp.jimpick.com seems to have disappeared.  I was using it as a Debian
> > non-US mirror.  Anybody know about this (or does it still resolve for
> > you)?
> 
> Looks OK to me:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:karsten]$ ping ftp.jimpick.com
> PING jimpick.com (139.142.90.110): 56 data bytes
> 64 bytes from 139.142.90.110: icmp_seq=0 ttl=243 time=227.3 ms
> 64 bytes from 139.142.90.110: icmp_seq=1 ttl=243 time=220.2 ms
> 64 bytes from 139.142.90.110: icmp_seq=2 ttl=243 time=200.3 ms
> 64 bytes from 139.142.90.110: icmp_seq=3 ttl=243 time=190.3 ms
> 64 bytes from 139.142.90.110: icmp_seq=4 ttl=243 time=200.4 ms
> 
> --- jimpick.com ping statistics ---
> 5 packets transmitted, 5 packets received, 0% packet loss
> round-trip min/avg/max = 190.3/207.7/227.3 ms

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Re: ftp.jimpick.com disappeared...

[Eric G . Miller]

On Thu, Apr 13, 2000 at 09:34:01PM -0600, Rick Macdonald wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Apr 2000, Eric G . Miller wrote:
> 
> > ftp.jimpick.com seems to have disappeared.  I was using it as a Debian
> > non-US mirror.  Anybody know about this (or does it still resolve for
> > you)?
> 
> apt-get update worked for me just now. I haven't been able to "mirror" on
> any non-US site for about a year, so I have to get it off the net. (Care
> to send me a working non-US mirror setup?)

I should've been more clear.  I'm not mirroring non-US, I've been using
the ftp.jimpick.com as a source for apt-get.

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problems with apt-get upgrade slink -> potato

[Gregory Guthrie]

I tried to do a slink->potato
upgrade, 
I put the potato debian site in /etc/apt/sources.list, and let go with


atp-get update     <-- works
fine...
apt-get dist-upgrade   <-- problems...

but, (see below) it looks like I get only a few fiels, adn many many
errors which seem server related.

Suggestions?

Gregory Guthrie

--
Script started on Thu Apr 13 20:13:21 2000
csgrg.root(501) >>
csgrg.root(502) >> apt-get dist-upgrade

Reading Package Lists... 0%
Reading Package Lists... 100%
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... 0%
Building Dependency Tree... 0%
Building Dependency Tree... 50%
Building Dependency Tree... 50%
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Calculating Upgrade... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  timezones libmd5-perl perl libpam0g-util perl-suid libsnmp3.6
netstd 
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  libncurses5 traceroute perl-5.004-base libwrap0 libpam-modules
perl-5.004
  perl-5.005 ruptime liburi-perl libpam-runtime rusers rsh-server
java-common
  perl-5.004-suid tcpd rdate cfingerd perl-5.004-doc tftp finger
libstdc++2.10
  icmpinfo rwho bootpc rdist ftp rwall perl-5.005-base rwhod fping
libsnmp4.1
  tcl8.2 tk8.2 rsh-client debconf libreadline4 nfs-common pidentd
liblockfile1
169 packages upgraded, 39 newly installed, 7 to remove and 0 not
upgraded.
Need to get 62.4MB/63.2MB of archives. After unpacking 58.2MB will be
used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] 

0% [Waiting for file]


Get:1
http://http.us.debian.org
potato/main libc6-dev 2.1.3-8 [2092kB]

 
0% [1 libc6-dev 1142/2092kB 0%]
...
3% [1 libc6-dev 2088942/2092kB 99%]   11.5kB/s 1h27m51s
3% [Working]  11.5kB/s 1h27m50s
Err http://http.us.debian.org potato/main libc6 2.1.3-8
  400 Bad Request
Err http://http.us.debian.org potato/main libpam0g 0.72-7
  Bad header line
  
Err http://http.us.debian.org potato/main snmp 4.1.1-2
  The http server sent an invalid reply header
  
Get:2 http://http.us.debian.org potato/main ncurses-base 5.0-6 [80.7kB]

3% [2 ncurses-base 0/80.7kB 0%]   11.5kB/s 1h27m50s

Err http://http.us.debian.org potato/main libncurses4 4.2-9
  400 Bad Request

Err http://http.us.debian.org potato/main netbase 3.18-2
  Bad header line

Get:3 http://http.us.debian.org potato/main libwrap0 7.6-4 [52.8kB]

3% [3 libwrap0 0/52.8kB 0%] 9941B/s 1h41m3s
...
3% [3 libwrap0 47836/52.8kB 90%]   9963B/s 1h40m45s
3% [Working]   9963B/s 1h40m44s
   
Err http://http.us.debian.org potato/main tcpd 7.6-4
  501 Method Not Implemented


Dr. Gregory Guthrie
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (515)472-1125    Fax: -1103
   Computer Science Department
   College of Science and Technology
   Maharishi University of Management
  (Maharishi International University 1971-1995)
    http://www.mum.edu/cs_dept

Re: Trying to run one process as root, how?

[Brenda J. Butler]

On Thu, Apr 13, 2000 at 07:07:17PM -0400, William T Wilson wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Apr 2000, Jim Breton wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, Apr 13, 2000 at 06:17:00PM -0400, William T Wilson wrote:
> > > > since I believe if you use "+root" you would be allowing the root user
> > > > on any other system to connect to your X server as well.
> > > 
> > > Actually, you will be allowing any user on system 'root' to connect.
> > 
> > Not according to the xhost man page:
> 
> I think you have misinterpreted the man page.  You can only add users if
> you are authenticating via kerberos or NIS.  In that case, you would have
> to specify 'xhost +nis:root@' to get the desired behavior.  And it won't
> work (i.e. grant anybody any access) unless you have Secure RPC.  If you
> just specify a single word, xhost will assume you mean a network system
> and in fact it will give an error if you just type 'xhost +root' and there
> is no system called 'root' on your network.
> 
> (Yes, the man page is magically obscure on this point :} )
---end quoted text---

The man page is magically obscure, _and_ the system behaves as if
the _user_ root _is_ allowed to display.  I don't believe I have
all that secure jazz in my setup either, but it worked for me.  And I
assure you, I don't have any system named root on my local network.

Mind you, I didn't try logging in to another system as root and
trying to display to the X server in question.

The other solution, setting XAUTHORITY in the root environment to
that of the user that owns the X session, also worked for me.
I've never seen that before - neat.

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Re: What are the most common causes of linux system hangs?

[Mike Werner]

On Fri, Apr 14, 2000 at 02:47:46AM -0700, Joe Emenaker wrote:
> Every now and then, I'll have a Debian box that starts having fits of hard
> system hangs. Sometimes, it goes away when I turn off a daemon. Other times,
> it goes away when I put the hard drives in an entirely different computer.
> 
> Currently, I'm having this problem with one. Just... out of the blue, it
> will hang dead in its tracks. The keyboard doesn't even wake the screen so I
> can see if there are any kernel panic messages or anything. Ctrl-Alt-Del
> doesn't do anything. I have to hit the rest button.
> 
> It doesn't seem to matter what's running becuase I've tried turning almost
> all of the daemons (except cron and a couple of others) off, and it still
> hung. It's happening more and more frequently, too. It used to be able to go
> for a week or two. Now, it barely makes it more than 4 hours or so.

I had a very similar problem with a 486 here some time ago ...

> Now, I'm pretty certain that it's some hardware problem. But, I'd like to
> avoid moving the whole system to a brand-new machine, find that the problem
> has gone away, and conclude that there's just *something* bad about the old
> server and that I need to chuck the whole thing.

... and this is what I was thinking at the time as well.  But it wasn't.

> So, I'd like to isolate the problem, if I could.
> 
> With that in mind, does anyone have any personal experience concerning what
> the problem usually is in these cases? Motherboard? RAM? Has it ever helped
> anyone to *under*clock the CPU?
> 
> I'm anxious for any ideas

What it turned out to be in my case was the kernel.  I was running
2.2.10 or .11 - unfortunately it was long enough ago that I don't
remember exactly which.  But when I upgraded to the latest (at the
time that was 2.2.13) the problem went away.  It seems that the
kernel I had been using had some memory leak somewhere.

I'm not saying that this *is* your problem ... I'm just saying
that when I had a similar problem that's what fixed it for me.
-- 
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ICQ# 12934898 |  "As far from Redmond as possible!"
'91 GS500E|
Morgantown WV |  Only dead fish go with the flow.

Need help with mirroring non-US

[Rick Macdonald]

I've been mirroring Debian at our office for years, but haven't been able
to get non-US to mirror for many months. I get a "timeout at end of
directory" error. I've tried different mirror sites with the same problem
for both slink and potato.

Below is what I have now that doesn't work for the non-US, but the
previous package "debian-unstable" works fine. Could somebody offer me a
working one?

package=defaults
# The LOCAL hostname - if not the same as `hostname`
# Keep all local_dirs relative to here
local_dir=/vd0/sys0/rickm/dists
remote_user=anonymous
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mail_to=rickm
# Don't mirror file modes.  Set all dirs/files to these
dir_mode=0755
file_mode=0444
# Keep a log file in each updated directory
update_log=.mirror
# Don't overwrite my mirror log with the remote one.
# Don't pull back any of their mirror temporary files.
# Don't touch anything whose name begins with a space!
# nor any FSP or gopher files...
exclude_patt=(^|/)(\.mirror$|\.mirrorinfo$|\.in\..*\.$|MIRROR.LOG|#.*#|\.FSP|\.cache|\.zipped|lost+found|\.desc\.txt|00index\.txt|\.new-packages$|\
)|(^|/)(binary-alpha|binary-arm|binary-[b-h]|binary-[j-r]|binary-[t-z]|Contents-[a-h]|Contents-[j-r]|Contents-[t-z]|disks-[a-h]|disks-[j-r]|disks-[t-z]|source)
# Don't delete own mirror log or any .notar files (incl in
subdirs)
delete_excl=(^|/)\.(mirror|notar)$
# Automatically delete local copies of files that the
# remote site has zapped
do_deletes=true
# increased timeout for slow sites
timeout=300
#get_newer=false
max_delete_files=100%

package=debian-unstable
comment=Debian Linux Distribution - unstable
site=ftp.debian.org
remote_dir=/debian/dists/potato
local_dir+/potato
exclude_patt+|(^|/)(binary-[a-h]|binary-[j-r]|binary-[t-z]|disks-[a-h]|disks-i386/[1-9]|disks-[j-r]|disks-sparc/[1-9]|disks-[t-z]|source)
delete_excl+|(^|/)non-US

package=debian-unstable-non-US
comment=Debian Linux Distribution
site=nonus.debian.org
remote_dir=/debian-non-US/dists/potato/non-US
local_dir+/potato/non-US

...RickM...

libc6 howto

[Dominic Blythe]

libc6 howto says get

ncurses3.0_1.9.9e-2 
ncurses3.4_1.9.9g-5 
libreadline2_2.1-7 
libreadlineg2_2.1-7 
bash_2.01-5

to upgrade to libc6, but the libreadlines download page says they depend on
ncurses4, and the "all packages" page only lists bash_2.01.1-4.1

any hints?
 

Re: What are the most common causes of linux system hangs?

[Rick Macdonald]

> On Fri, Apr 14, 2000 at 02:47:46AM -0700, Joe Emenaker wrote:
> > Every now and then, I'll have a Debian box that starts having fits of hard
> > system hangs. Sometimes, it goes away when I turn off a daemon. Other times,
> > it goes away when I put the hard drives in an entirely different computer.

> > It doesn't seem to matter what's running becuase I've tried turning almost
> > all of the daemons (except cron and a couple of others) off, and it still
> > hung. It's happening more and more frequently, too. It used to be able to go
> > for a week or two. Now, it barely makes it more than 4 hours or so.

The following may not apply to you but may be of interest generally.

You didn't say if you're always running X. I don't think anything has ever
hung my machine other than Netscape and/or X.

HOWEVER, for me it's only the XServer that is hung. I have a lan at home
so I can go to my wife's Win95 PC (which usually needs rebooting because
it's been sitting there idle for a few days and hangs by itself) and
telnet to my Linux box and kill Netscape, or sometimes kill X. But the
point is that I can login and the OS itself isn't hung.

Can you make it hang outside of X? If not, can you plug in a dumb terminal
or telnet in to see if it's _really_ hung?

...RickM...

Re: Linux only sees half my RAM

[Alexander Shutov]

Lucky you are - i have 64Mb not 192 both in 2.0 and 2.2 versions.


- Original Message -
From: Ron Rademaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Viktor Rosenfeld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: 
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 12:41 PM
Subject: Re: Linux only sees half my RAM


> I don't know how, I once saw it happen. With a 2.0 all the ram was
> recognised and the system was stable, with a 2.2 only half was recognised
> and the system became instable if the ram was set on 128 with lilo (with a
> 2.3 all the recognised and stable, as far as you can call a 2.3 stable).
>
> Ron
>
> On Mon, 10 Apr 2000, Viktor Rosenfeld wrote:
>
> > Ron Rademaker wrote:
> >
> > > PS. Editing your lilo.conf could also make your system instable in
these
> > > kind of situations.
> >
> > Huu?  How so?
> >
> > MfG Viktor
> > --
> > Viktor Rosenfeld
> > E-Mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > HertzSCHLAG: http://www.informatik.hu-berlin.de/~rosenfel/hs/
> >
> >
>
>
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>
>

Re: Linux only sees half my RAM

[Ron Rademaker]

And editing lilo.conf couldn't make linux use all your ram??


On Fri, 14 Apr 2000, Alexander Shutov wrote:

> Lucky you are - i have 64Mb not 192 both in 2.0 and 2.2 versions.
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Ron Rademaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Viktor Rosenfeld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 12:41 PM
> Subject: Re: Linux only sees half my RAM
> 
> 
> > I don't know how, I once saw it happen. With a 2.0 all the ram was
> > recognised and the system was stable, with a 2.2 only half was recognised
> > and the system became instable if the ram was set on 128 with lilo (with a
> > 2.3 all the recognised and stable, as far as you can call a 2.3 stable).
> >
> > Ron
> >
> > On Mon, 10 Apr 2000, Viktor Rosenfeld wrote:
> >
> > > Ron Rademaker wrote:
> > >
> > > > PS. Editing your lilo.conf could also make your system instable in
> these
> > > > kind of situations.
> > >
> > > Huu?  How so?
> > >
> > > MfG Viktor
> > > --
> > > Viktor Rosenfeld
> > > E-Mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > HertzSCHLAG: http://www.informatik.hu-berlin.de/~rosenfel/hs/
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
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> /dev/null
> >
> >
> 
> 

Re: Asus K7V motherboard

[Jeff Noxon]

If it didn't work, you'd be seeing posts about it.  It's very unusual
for an off-the-shelf motherboard to have problems with Linux these days.

I'm about to buy a K7V myself.  Linux works just fine on my K7M.

Regards,

Jeff

On Fri, Apr 14, 2000 at 11:01:29AM +0200, Alfredo Amiel P. Leonardia wrote:
> Anybody out there using an Asus K7V motherboard?  It's very new and I
> haven't found anything on the web concerning compatibility with linux or
> lack thereof.  Any info?

Screen full of ?'s

[Abyss]

One of the Debian 2.1 console windows has lost it's normal font and is 
displaying characters as black on white question marks and other assorted 
graphical characters.


This does not change if one logs out then back in again.  It does not 
change if X is started.  It does not change if "setfont" is used.  The only 
solution so far is to reboot Linux.


It only happens occasionally and I would prefer not rebooting when it happens.

Anyone encountered this before?
Thanks in advance.

Re: how to make .deb packages?

[Bob Hilliard]

"Fox, Michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Basically my question is, how do I make a deb kernel image, so that it can
> be transferred to other machines and used. Since all the machines are on the
> same hardware.
> 
> And another thing I am curious about, is if compile something to my system,
> how could i turn the compiled/installed program into a deb file ready to use
> on another machine. So how do the package maintainers make there deb
> packages to be submitted to the package tree? I am very interested to know,
> and use it for my own benefit. Who knows I might someday become a maintainer
> of my own package :)

 To make a kernel image .deb, get the kernel-package package: 

: Package: kernel-package
: Version: 7.03
: Priority: optional
: Section: misc
: Maintainer: Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: Depends: perl5, dpkg (>= 1.4), dpkg-dev (>= 1.4.0.9), fileutils (>= 4.0)
: Recommends: libc-dev, gcc, debianutils, make
: Suggests: kernel-source
: Architecture: all
: Filename: dists/frozen/main/binary-i386/misc/kernel-package_7.03.deb
: Size: 149642
: MD5sum: 2e2e026fa21a1aceb8b30cf62979a23f
: Description: Debian Linux kernel package build scripts.
:  This package provides the capability to create a debian
:  kernel-image package by just running make-kpkg kernel_image in a
:  kernel source directory tree.  It can also build the kernel source
:  package as a debian file, the kernel headers package. In general, this
:  package is very useful if you need to create a custom kernel, if, for
:  example, the default kernel does not support some of your hardware, or
:  you wish a leaner, meaner kernel.
:  .
:  If you are running on an intel x86 platform, and you wish to compile a
:  custom kernel (why else are you considering this package?), then you may
:  need the package bin86 as well.  (This is not required on other platforms).
: installed-size: 644

 For making .debs in general, go to http://www.debian.org/devel/
and look at the documents under Packaging Information, and also read
the Debian Policy Manual, listed under Debian Policy on that same page. 
  
Bob
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Where is libz1?

[Norman Walsh]

I'm trying to upgrade to XFree86 3.3.6 in order to get support
for my Trident Blade 3D card. I've managed to get as far as
attempting to install xserver-svga, but it claims to depend
on 'libz1'.

I've looked all over the debian site, but I can't find anything
called libz1.

Help?

Be seeing you,
  norm

-- 
Norman Walsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  | My problems start when the smarter
http://nwalsh.com/ | bears and the dumber visitors
   | intersect.--Steve Thompson,
   | wildlife biologist at Yosemite
   | National Park

Re: Where is libz1?

[Marshal Kar-Cheung Wong]

> "Norman" == Norman Walsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I'm trying to upgrade to XFree86 3.3.6 in order to get support
> for my Trident Blade 3D card. I've managed to get as far as
> attempting to install xserver-svga, but it claims to depend on
> 'libz1'.

> I've looked all over the debian site, but I can't find anything
> called libz1.

I think what you're looking for is zlib.  It's the compression
library.

Marshal

> Help?

> Be seeing you, norm

> -- Norman Walsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | My problems start when the
> smarter http://nwalsh.com/ | bears and the dumber visitors |
> intersect.--Steve Thompson, | wildlife biologist at Yosemite |
> National Park


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Re: ftp.jimpick.com disappeared...

[Bob Hilliard]

Rick Macdonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> 
> On Wed, 12 Apr 2000, Eric G . Miller wrote:
> 
> > ftp.jimpick.com seems to have disappeared.  I was using it as a Debian
> > non-US mirror.  Anybody know about this (or does it still resolve for
> > you)?
> 
> apt-get update worked for me just now. I haven't been able to "mirror" on
> any non-US site for about a year, so I have to get it off the net. (Care
> to send me a working non-US mirror setup?)

 These remote directories work for me on nonus.debian.org.  Other
sites may require different prefixes.  see README.non-US in any mirror.
 
remote_dir=/debian-non-US/dists/woody/non-US/main/binary-all
remote_dir=/debian-non-US/dists/woody/non-US/main/binary-i386
remote_dir=/debian-non-US/dists/woody/non-US/contrib/binary-all
remote_dir=/debian-non-US/dists/woody/non-US/contrib/binary-i386
remote_dir=/debian-non-US/dists/woody/non-US/non-free/binary-all
remote_dir=/debian-non-US/dists/woody/non-US/non-free/binary-i386

 Note the capitalization of non-US in the remote directory

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Re: Help installing Netscape

[r3ck]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
> Dear friends,
> 
> I have hesitated to ask this simple question here, but after quite along
> time, my head is sore from banging it against the wall . . .

Welcome to the wonderful world of Linux :)

>* I  downloaded 16 MB  from
>  
> ftp.netscape.com/pub/communicaotr/english/4.72/unix/supported/linux20_glibc2/complete_install/
> 
>  communicator-v472-export.x86-unknown-linuxglibc2.0.tar.gz
>* At least it was close to that!
>* I waited for it to ask me where it would put it, having read that
>  it should go into /tmp. It didn't ask, just started coming at me,
>  so I left it alone. All night.
>* Now I can't find it. I've tried locate with lots of permutations,

The locate database must be updated.  updatedb will do this for you.
/etc/updatedb.conf has to be configged properly to not exclude the
directory where communicator might have gone.  Another way is to
"find / -name "*communicator*".

There is a communicator packaged for debian in non-free, yes?

>* I have read with interest the messages to newbies about using the
>  help before writing messages like this, but I actually need more
>  help before I can make us of the help. when I go to /usr/doc and do
>  ls, I do see all the help, but I don't know how to open it.

lynx might work well here.  It's a text-based web browser but
it's good for browsing local doc trees.

You need a directory utility really.  Some good ones are filerunner,
gentoo, emelfm, mc (midnight commander clone).

>* I have installed Gnome/Enlightenment. Maybe. I have a terminal
>  window glued to the upper left corner of the screen that I can't
>  figure out how to minimize or banish.
>* There are almost no apps available. Do I need to install things
>  like a word processor and a spreadsheet separately? They aren't
>  part of Gnome?

There is probably no shortcut; you've got tons of reading ahead of
you to get comfortable with Debian, or any Linux really.  Here are
some things that I found helpful,

http://www.debian.org/~elphick/ddp/manuals.html
  - lots of faqs and docs, tutorials
http://www.linuxpress.com/debusered2.html
  - the book "Debian Linux User's Guide"
http://www.penguinteam.org/debian/doc/debian-tutorial/
  - Debian GNU/Linux: Guide to Installation and Usage
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/debian/chapter/index.html
  - Learning Debian GNU/Linux

Hope that helps.  Keep your pecker up; it's a lot of fun.

rick

Re: problem creating boot floppy

[John Kiff]

I tried superformat, but it bombed out with the following messages:

  sh: mformat: command not found
  warning: mformat error

Am I missing a package?

John Kiff   


--- Oki DZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On Thu, 13 Apr 2000, John Kiff wrote:
>
> > I'm pretty sure that I'm doing everything correctly, but I keep getting
> > back a bad disk or write-protected disk error.
>
> Make sure that you don't have any floppy with bad sectors. You can format
> the floppies on a running Linux machine using fdformat (fdformat
> /dev/fd0u1440) or superformat (superformat /dev/fd0); on fdformat, "done"
> has to be returned; on superformat, you can see every track that's being
> formatted.
>
> > I'


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Re: Trying to run one process as root, how?

[Sergey V Kovalyov]

> The other solution, setting XAUTHORITY in the root environment to
> that of the user that owns the X session, also worked for me.
> I've never seen that before - neat.

I'm thinking, shouldn't this be done automatically by /bin/su ?
This would make a lot of sense and simplify life significantly. Just check
the archives, how often this question pops up.

Granted, it will not work in every situation, but still will be useful in
most cases.

Another way might be to encorporate the setting of XAUTHORITY into the
default root's .bashrc

Sergey.

Proper environment settings`

[Dan Myers]

Hiya,

Can someone give me the best route to change the PATH variable when inside an
xsession.  Changing such things as .bashrc and .profile etc don't seem like the
answer to me?   Both for root and users.  

TIA


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Re: Plotting Program?

[Felix Natter]

SCOTT FENTON <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hello all. Does anyone know of a free package (preferebly in Debian)
> that does what graphviz
> (http://www.research.att.com/sw/tools/graphviz/), that is, draws
> family-tree like diagrams?

I do not know "graphwiz", but there is a gnome-application called
"dia" which can draw structured diagrams:
http://www.gnome.org->gnome office suite->dia

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Re: problem creating boot floppy

[Nathan E Norman]

On Fri, Apr 14, 2000 at 10:04:41AM -0700, John Kiff wrote:
> I tried superformat, but it bombed out with the following messages:
> 
>   sh: mformat: command not found
>   warning: mformat error
> 
> Am I missing a package?

Yep.  Install mtools.

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Re: Screen full of ?'s

[Rolf Schillinger]

Hi,
could it be that you did 'cat' or 'more' a file with strange control
chars? Maybe a binary? If that is the case you simply type 'reset' on that
console. That should fix that problem.
hth, Rolf

On Fri, 14 Apr 2000, Abyss wrote:

> One of the Debian 2.1 console windows has lost it's normal font and is 
> displaying characters as black on white question marks and other assorted 
> graphical characters.
> 
> This does not change if one logs out then back in again.  It does not 
> change if X is started.  It does not change if "setfont" is used.  The only 
> solution so far is to reboot Linux.
> 
> It only happens occasionally and I would prefer not rebooting when it happens.
> 
> Anyone encountered this before?
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> 
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Re: What are the most common causes of linux system hangs?

[Rolf Schillinger]

Hi,
if you suspect the mem to be faulty try compiling a kernel. This is a very
memory intensive process and if the memory is faulty chances are you get
the dreaded sig11.
hth, Rolf

On Fri, 14 Apr 2000, Joe Emenaker wrote:

> Aka... "why is my system so well hung?" :)
> 
> Every now and then, I'll have a Debian box that starts having fits of hard
> system hangs. Sometimes, it goes away when I turn off a daemon. Other times,
> it goes away when I put the hard drives in an entirely different computer.
> 
> Currently, I'm having this problem with one. Just... out of the blue, it
> will hang dead in its tracks. The keyboard doesn't even wake the screen so I
> can see if there are any kernel panic messages or anything. Ctrl-Alt-Del
> doesn't do anything. I have to hit the rest button.
> 
> It doesn't seem to matter what's running becuase I've tried turning almost
> all of the daemons (except cron and a couple of others) off, and it still
> hung. It's happening more and more frequently, too. It used to be able to go
> for a week or two. Now, it barely makes it more than 4 hours or so.
> 
> Now, I'm pretty certain that it's some hardware problem. But, I'd like to
> avoid moving the whole system to a brand-new machine, find that the problem
> has gone away, and conclude that there's just *something* bad about the old
> server and that I need to chuck the whole thing.
> 
> So, I'd like to isolate the problem, if I could.
> 
> With that in mind, does anyone have any personal experience concerning what
> the problem usually is in these cases? Motherboard? RAM? Has it ever helped
> anyone to *under*clock the CPU?
> 
> I'm anxious for any ideas
> 
> - Joe
> 
> 
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RE: install help with a SCSI CDROM on a 486

[Lewis, James M.]

> I've been fighting this Debian install for 3 weeks and am about tired of
> it.
> If I don't get an answer here, then I am taking the damn CD to the skeet
> range. OK, here is what I got:
> 
> Debian 2.1 bootable CD, official type that comes in the box, has the
> Debian
> tm logo on it and the O'Rielly cow book in the box with it
> 
> Desired packages:
> Perl(full install not just the basic package), Python, gcc, apache/httpd,
> mySQL
> 
> Compaq Prolinea 4/66 20megsRAM  < a 486>
> 
ummm... does it say something like "no pci bios found" in the
bootup messages?  I had a compaq 486 that had scsi and net built
in and never could get linux to run on it.  Compaq had done something
funny with the pci bios.  It was located above normal accessable
memory.  There was a tool to relocate the pci bios down to where it
was supposed to go (available for download from compaq).  This was
back in the deb 1.1 or 1.2 days (just after the switch to elf).  The
newer kernels should pick up on this, I think.  Check your boot up
messages to confirm that it does recognize the pci bus.  If it does,
then using the boot options (as mentioned in another response) should
get you there.  If not, I'll look through the dust and see if I still
have that utility from Compaq.

jim

> Fujitsu 4.3 HD partitioned as:
>  hda1 := 2048
>  hda5 := 1024 
>  hda6 := 1024 
>  hda7 := 0033 Linux swap 
>  hda8 := 0033 somehow generated in one of the install attempts, delete
> later
> 
> Netgear/Bay Network EA201 D2  NIC
> Adaptec AVA-1505A hooked to an internal IBM/Matsuhita CR-503-C
> CDROM is at SCSI#3
> during DOS bootup it shows the card as
>  Host Adapter #0
>  Port 140h
>  Interrupt 10
>  Host Adapter SCSI ID = 7
> 
> One of the references that I found is at
> 
> http://customer.support.redhat.com/rhoaprod/plsql/xxrh_know_pkg.srch2?p_id
> =1
> 20
> 
> and its example was   aha152x=0x340,10,7
> however, I believe that I should have aha152x=0x140,10,7 due to the IO
> address
> 
> Now I can click Win95 Start, Shutdown to DOS, go to the CDROM as I:\ in
> Win98DOS, cd install, invoke boot.bat, select color, select USA keyboard,
> partition hda1 as ext2~>Write~>yes,~>Quit init&activate swap hda7, init
> /dev/hda1, "skip the bad block check since it has been done about 20 times
> without finding anything", mount as /, Install Operating System Kernel and
> Modules, Select CDROM as medium, select /dev/scd0 : SCSI, and bleewy "NO
> SCSI ADAPTER DETECTED"
> 
> The question remains, where do I tell Debian to aha152x=0x140,10,7 in this
> process?? I don't see a place to pass these parameters to the install
> program. What am I missing???
> 
> Also, when I get to modules, what module do I load for the NIC??
> 
> Any help will be appreciated,
> 
> 
> Will
> 
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need info for confused ISP

[Pollywog]

An ISP saw a post of mine on the dhs.org website and asked me what
they could do to make their service better.  I replied that one thing
they could do is switch to Linux or FreeBSD or some other UNIX (they
are using NT).  Their reply to me was that the problem with Linux
servers is the security holes.

They must have swallowed Microsoft's propaganda hook, line, and
sinker, finally telling me they are "NT professionals" and that they
know little about Linux. 

The tech support guy told me they might eventually get into Linux,
but there is much to learn.

I am still a newbie, but I wonder what I could do to get them to
really look into changing to Linux or other UNIX.  Anyone have any
good websites where ISP's can compare Linux and NT?

Actually, they goofed when they asked for my opinion, because I was
replying to another person's post, and it was that person who could
not use their DNS service.  All I did was direct that person to
another ISP which could do what they needed done.

thanks

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Re: Proper environment settings`

[Oswald Buddenhagen]

> Can someone give me the best route to change the PATH variable when inside an
> xsession.  Changing such things as .bashrc and .profile etc don't seem like 
> the
> answer to me?   Both for root and users.  
> 
change the global ".profile": /etc/profile

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Need help with mirroring non-US (fwd)

[Bob Hilliard]

Rick Macdonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Thanks for the reply.
> 
> I later sent the post below, showing my mirror.defaults file. The paths
> look correct to me, using the same server as you. If I run in debug mode,
> it does read and xfer the dir contents, but it hangs at the end. Perhaps
> if you wouldn't mind sending your entire mirror file I can pick it apart
> and resolve this. I've tried many times for hours each time over what
> seems an entire year.

 Your remote directory line is:
 remote_dir=/debian-non-US/dists/potato/non-US

 What I sent was:

remote_dir=/debian-non-US/dists/woody/non-US/main/binary-all
remote_dir=/debian-non-US/dists/woody/non-US/main/binary-i386
remote_dir=/debian-non-US/dists/woody/non-US/contrib/binary-all
remote_dir=/debian-non-US/dists/woody/non-US/contrib/binary-i386
remote_dir=/debian-non-US/dists/woody/non-US/non-free/binary-all
remote_dir=/debian-non-US/dists/woody/non-US/non-free/binary-i386

 Of course, s/potato/woody/.  It appears to be necessary to list
the directories under woody/non-US, but I don't understand why, since
recursive is supposed to be the default.  A year or so ago, non-US was
not divided into main, contrib, and non-free.

Bob
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