Re: your mail

[Martin Fluch]

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On 2 Dec 1999, Ray Woodcock wrote:

> Amazingly, I finally have a successful installation of slink.  Whew!
> 
> I missed a couple of bends in the road, however:
> 
> (1) The opportunity to select a profile blew right past me somehow.  What can
> I enter at the bash prompt to return to that stage in the game?

Dono...

> (2) How can I remove PCMCIA now?

apt-get remove pcmcia-cs

Martin

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Re: setting up network for @home account

[Mark Wagnon]

On 12/02/99 05:13PM, John and Monica Patton wrote:
> The information you have sent is very helpful... but what is the NETWORK
> address?  I even called [EMAIL PROTECTED], and they had no idea.  Without
> that field  entered I get a "DIOCADDRT: Network is unreachable" error.

It's the network you system is in, ie the @home network. You can just
enter the first three bytes of your IP address + a zero. If your IP
address is:

  123.456.789.101

then your network would be:

  123.456.789.0

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my keyboard was malconfigured

[Evan Moore]

how can i reconfigure my keyboard, i screwed up durrig the install of
potato, not my '/' key is 3 and i don't even know where the '\' key
ended up. all of the special keys are pretty much all a mess aswell. 

thanks
evan

debiandoc-sgml: slink-to-potato bug?

[Svante Signell]

Hello,

Since I'm new to Debian I don't know where to report (possible) bugs
yet I'm posting it here. Please advise me to the correct list next
time.  The lists subscribed to so far are: debian-announce,
debian-news, debian-change, debian-user.

Output when installing debiandoc-sgml:
Cannot find termcap: Can't find a valid termcap file at 
/usr/lib/perl5/5.005/Term/ReadLine.pm

Status:
No solution found yet.

Liking Debian more and more, even though
installing/configuring/upgrading is not easy compared to other
distributions. 

dpkg-dev: slink-to-potato bug?

[Svante Signell]

Hello,

Since I'm new to Debian I don't know where to report (possible) bugs
yet I'm posting it here. Please advise me to the correct list next
time.  The lists subscribed to so far are: debian-announce,
debian-news, debian-change, debian-user.

Upgrading from slink emacs or xemacs resulted in an unfinished
configure phase. This was solved by:
ln -s /usr/share/dpkg/site-lisp/debian-changelog-mode.el
/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/dpkg-dev/

This .el file is from the dpkg-dev package.

Liking Debian more and more, even though
installing/configuring/upgrading is not easy compared to other
distributions. 

File permissions when copying CD's?

[Svante Signell]

Hi,

When copying a CD to a writable CD the source file gets mounted
read-only, i.e. all files do not have a write flag set. Writing this
image to a new CD results in a corrupt copy. How to change this
behaviour? I'm using gtoaster, cdrecord, ...

Any good ideas, perhaps this is an FAQ?

Svante Signell

Re: Window manager switcher

[Carl Fink]

Achim Bohnet wrote:

> Slink and potato use the
> /etc/X11/window-mangers file to determine the default window
> manager . . . [etc.]

I *know* that.  I asked specifically about an automated tool so one
wouldn't have to edit config files.
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Re: dpkg-dev: slink-to-potato bug?

[Brian May]

> "Svante" == Svante Signell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Note: the potato version is unstable, and you are more likely
to encounter problems with it rather then slink.

However, if you are willing to submit bug reports, I am
sure that most developers will be grateful.

Svante> Hello, Since I'm new to Debian I don't know where to
Svante> report (possible) bugs yet I'm posting it here. Please
Svante> advise me to the correct list next time.  The lists
Svante> subscribed to so far are: debian-announce, debian-news,
Svante> debian-change, debian-user.

debian-devel might be better suited for potato (aka unstable) specific
issues. However, if you are unsure, then post in debian-user.

Svante> Upgrading from slink emacs or xemacs resulted in an
Svante> unfinished configure phase. This was solved by: ln -s
Svante> /usr/share/dpkg/site-lisp/debian-changelog-mode.el
Svante> /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/dpkg-dev/

This is what I would do:

1. lookup http://bugs.debian.org/emacs
and http://bugs.debian.org/xemacs

to check the bug hasn't already been reported.

2. install the bug package.

3. type "bug emacs" or "bug xemacs" to file a bug report.
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Re: Partion sizes - recommendations pls

[David Z. Maze]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] com <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
M> Any suggestions on how large to create my partitions based on the
M> following usage:
...
M> I'm concerned about root.
M> On my first test installation under Red Hat 6 months ago I only had X,
M> KDE and Netscape and whatever Red Hat insatlls by default with the
M> following partitions: / 100MB, /home 100 MB,/user 250,swap 50MB.

With that setup (Netscape, KDE/GNOME, X, WordPerfect, ...) you'll
almost definitely need a decent bit more than 500MB for your system.
If you're that limited on space, one big partition might be the way to
go.

My recommendations:

Swap: "Big enough".  You probably want memory+swap to be *at least*
64MB, but more doesn't hurt.

/var (could combine with /): At least 100MB, 200MB is a good minimum
if you have the space.  More space is good, especially if you're going
to track the unstable branch; Debian packages you download will wind
up here, along with some local state and your Apache root.

/home: As much as you need, probably at least 50-100MB.  I tend to
keep ~80MB of mail around, plus some personal stuff.  If you're the
only user on your system, you can get away with skimping on /home and
putting "your" stuff elsewhere.

/usr: Yeah, as much as you can get.  Given your list of stuff, I'd say
500+ MB.

/: If you've split off all three of /var, /home, and /usr, then / can
be small (like 32MB).  You'll probably want to symlink /tmp to
somewhere, though.

I also have /usr/local on a separate partition.  If I wanted to, I
could mount /usr read-only for a small feeling of extra security.
Also, this is spread out over 2 disks (used to be 3).  Having /home on
its own partition is really useful if you ever want to reinstall or
use two different Linuces side by side.

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Re: Python

[W. Paul Mills]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dwayne C . Litzenberger) writes:

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> On Wed, Dec 01, 1999 at 05:26:06PM +0100, Blazej Sawionek wrote:
> > I installed:
> > python-base
> >   -doc
> >   -examples
> >   -misc
> >   -stdwin
> >=20
> > When trying to execute scripts (eg. `wpi.py') I get the message: ImportEr=
> ror: No module named stdwin.
> >=20
> > How can I deal with that? Anything else should be installed?
> >=20
> > Blazej
> >=20
> >=20
> 
> `stdwin' looks like `Standard Windows', meaning your very dumb Python
> script requires the Windows Python interpreter (so much for
> cross-platform).  See if you can port it, or if there are options in the
> script to make it work on *n[iu]x.

wpi.py is one of several python scripts distributed in the debs
that requires stdwin!

I just installed the stdwin package to test this, got same result.
Hummm ...

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Clipboard-like software?

[Mark Wagnon]

Hi all,

I was just wondering if anyone knew of any software that can serve as
a clipboard. I'm looking for something that can just run and recieve
selected/highlighted text through some key combination. I'm looking at
xclipboard right now, but unless I'm not getting it, it just seems to
serve as a place to paste text into that can be used in another app.

Does anyone know of anything else?

TIA
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Humble Request Re: New release over due

[Nathan O. Siemers]

I appreciate the fine quality of the debian distribution and the work
that goes into it.  Thanks very much!  It is my preferred linux
distribution.  However, I have three systems that are at slink level,
and have been waiting for a long time for a 2.2.* kernel, gnome
(available outside official debian), etc.  Some earlier discussions
about the true instability of the potato release have prevented me
from starting the upgrade path yet.  Perhaps I am getting old and
lazy?  

Hmm. How about this for a practical suggestion:

After Potato, *please* limit the scope of the feature changes that
will take place before a new release.  A 3-4 month cycle seems more
appropriate to this kind of development. Make your goals more modest!
Debian is already the best linux distro I have seen, with the only
drawback that is is *many* months behind the newest features (if you
stick with a "stable" version - if anyone on the newsgroup whines that
they have hosed their system via an "unstable" upgrade attempt, they
are admonished "what do you expect?" ).


Thanks for your work and your listening time.

nathan 


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> George Bonser wrote:
> > 
> > On Sun, 14 Nov 1999, Tim Webster wrote:
> > 
> > > I have continued to use debian despite the fact that it has grown 
> > > extremely out date.
> > > However failing to release a mini potato at this time, has forced me to 
> > > drop
> > > debian.
> > 
> > Huh? I have not used stable Debian in a production system in a long time.
> > The closest I have are some slink installs with some of the newer apps and
> > libs needed to do what it does. On these systems I did not completely
> > upgrade to potato ... just upgraded what needed to be upgraded to get the
> > verison of tools I needed.

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Re: Clipboard-like software?

[Christopher S. Swingley]

> a clipboard. I'm looking for something that can just run and recieve
> selected/highlighted text through some key combination. I'm looking at

Don't know how well gpm does this in a console, but X provides this
automatically with the left (copy) and middle (paste) mouse buttons.
Works like magic, and is far better IMHO than the key commands you
have to use in Windows.

Just select a bunch of text, an url, etc. with the left mouse button,
move the cursor where you want it (like the location window in Netscape)
and press the middle mouse button.  Magic!

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Re: Humble Request Re: New release over due

[Carl Fink]

> After Potato, *please* limit the scope of the feature changes that
> will take place before a new release.  A 3-4 month cycle seems more
> appropriate to this kind of development. Make your goals more modest!
> Debian is already the best linux distro I have seen, with the only
> drawback that is is *many* months behind the newest features (if you
> stick with a "stable" version - if anyone on the newsgroup whines that
> they have hosed their system via an "unstable" upgrade attempt, they
> are admonished "what do you expect?" ).

I agree with everything you write here.  However, I suspect it'll have
more impact if posted to debian-policy, not debian-user.

FWIW, I've been using Potato for a couple of months now and the only
problem I've had is a weirdness in slrn that I can't actually be sure
has anything to do with Debian at all.
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slrn only scores some groups?

[Carl Fink]

This is odd.  Since I upgraded to potato, slrn (now at 0.9.5.7) only
applies the scorefile to some groups.  It's properly defined in
.slrnrc, and works normally on the groups it works on at all.  If I
use the "K" command from an unscored group, it does open the correct
scorefile (~/News/Score).  If I "K" from the group listing, it lets me
set score options for the group, then ignores them if it's a group
that isn't being scored.

I posted to news.software.readers and got no help or "Me, too!", so
I'm assuming it's a potato-specific problem.

Any suggestions?  Anything I can do to debug this?  I'm running
bleeding-edge potato (I ran apt-get upgrade yesterday).
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grub - help needed

[Lindsay Allen]

After reading grub.info several times I am none the wiser.  To me it is a
classic case of experts not being able to get down to my level.

My spare box has this setup:

hda1dos
hdb5caldera
hdb6rh
sda5debian

Is anyone willing to help me get it running?  Perhaps give me a menu which
will do the job.  Or point me to a more suitable doc.

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animated gifs w/squid

[aphro]

I was wondering if anyone knew what i could do to make animated gifs work
right with squid proxy/webcaching package.  I am using 2.1.2-1 ..animated
gifs render once then stop.  only when i turn off using squid as my proxy
does it re animate endlessly.(tried it on netscape/linux netscape/win
opera/beos)

is there no way around this ?

tia

nate

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Re: Window manager switcher

[aphro]

I used this one for  awhile, it seems it hasnt been updated since i used
it(~2 years?)

http://gator.naples.net/~nfn03343/

worked ok at the time.

nate


On Thu, 2 Dec 1999, Carl Fink wrote:

carlf >Achim Bohnet wrote:
carlf >
carlf >> Slink and potato use the
carlf >> /etc/X11/window-mangers file to determine the default window
carlf >> manager . . . [etc.]
carlf >
carlf >I *know* that.  I asked specifically about an automated tool so one
carlf >wouldn't have to edit config files.
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Re: animated gifs w/squid

[Brian May]

> "aphro" == aphro  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

aphro> I was wondering if anyone knew what i could do to make
aphro> animated gifs work right with squid proxy/webcaching
aphro> package.  I am using 2.1.2-1 ..animated gifs render once
aphro> then stop.  only when i turn off using squid as my proxy
aphro> does it re animate endlessly.(tried it on netscape/linux
aphro> netscape/win opera/beos)

Squid shouldn't alter the data in any way.

However, I have heard similar problems before: "my web page
is different when I load it from my harddisk instead of via http".
I can't remember the exact details now.

Perhaps the web browser is buggy? Still, it seems strange.

If you find out why, please tell me ;-)
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ppp hangups...

[Jonathan Lupa]

I've been getting dropped from my ISP unexpectedly from time to time
and I'm not sure how to go about debugging it.  There is nothing
unusual in syslog or messages, but I noticed this in ppp.log. (kernel
2.2.12 pppd 2.3p5).  Any debugging tips would be greatly appreciated!

Dec  2 23:38:08 Sith pppd[22741]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0xbf
magic=0xd4cbdb59]
Dec  2 23:38:38 Sith pppd[22741]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0xc0
magic=0xd4cbdb59]
Dec  2 23:39:08 Sith pppd[22741]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0xc1
magic=0xd4cbdb59]
Dec  2 23:39:38 Sith pppd[22741]: No response to 4 echo-requests
Dec  2 23:39:38 Sith pppd[22741]: Serial link appears to be
disconnected.
Dec  2 23:39:38 Sith pppd[22741]: sent [LCP TermReq id=0x2 "Peer not
responding"
Dec  2 23:39:40 Sith pppd[22741]: Hangup (SIGHUP)
Dec  2 23:39:40 Sith pppd[22741]: Modem hangup
Dec  2 23:39:40 Sith pppd[22741]: Connection terminated.
Dec  2 23:39:41 Sith pppd[22741]: Exit.

Is it just because things are hairy on the ISP end?  As soon as I dial
back in, everything works fine again (and there is no apparent time
interval for which this happens).

I know about the lcp-echo options and will play around with them, but
I'm hoping someone can tell me whats going on behind the curtain here.

Thanks All!
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Re: ppp hangups...

[Shao Zhang]

Hi,

I think it is just the remote isp is a bit misconfigured, or the link is
extremely slow.

Try modify lcp-echo-failure to a bigger number in /etc/ppp/options to
prevent the drop of the link


Shao.

Jonathan Lupa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I've been getting dropped from my ISP unexpectedly from time to time
> and I'm not sure how to go about debugging it.  There is nothing
> unusual in syslog or messages, but I noticed this in ppp.log. (kernel
> 2.2.12 pppd 2.3p5).  Any debugging tips would be greatly appreciated!
> 
> Dec  2 23:38:08 Sith pppd[22741]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0xbf
> magic=0xd4cbdb59]
> Dec  2 23:38:38 Sith pppd[22741]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0xc0
> magic=0xd4cbdb59]
> Dec  2 23:39:08 Sith pppd[22741]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0xc1
> magic=0xd4cbdb59]
> Dec  2 23:39:38 Sith pppd[22741]: No response to 4 echo-requests
> Dec  2 23:39:38 Sith pppd[22741]: Serial link appears to be
> disconnected.
> Dec  2 23:39:38 Sith pppd[22741]: sent [LCP TermReq id=0x2 "Peer not
> responding"
> Dec  2 23:39:40 Sith pppd[22741]: Hangup (SIGHUP)
> Dec  2 23:39:40 Sith pppd[22741]: Modem hangup
> Dec  2 23:39:40 Sith pppd[22741]: Connection terminated.
> Dec  2 23:39:41 Sith pppd[22741]: Exit.
> 
> Is it just because things are hairy on the ISP end?  As soon as I dial
> back in, everything works fine again (and there is no apparent time
> interval for which this happens).
> 
> I know about the lcp-echo options and will play around with them, but
> I'm hoping someone can tell me whats going on behind the curtain here.
> 
> Thanks All!
> -Jonathan
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Having apt-get mount -o remount,rw/ro /usr

[Shaul Karl]

It seems to me that the mount -o remount,rw/ro /usr feature of apt-get is not 
working.
Am I correct? Can someone who have managed to do it can tell me how it is done?

Re: Thanks Re:looking for right ISP

[Daniel Yang]

Thank all of you for the response and 
help.
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Atari ST as Dumb Terminal

[David Purton]

Hi all,

I wish to connect my old Atari ST to my linux box running slink with a serial
cable and use it basically as a dumb terminal.

Could someone please point me in the direction of some useful documentation as
to how to do this.  Also does anyone know what software would be required on
the Atari to be able to do this

Thanks


David Purton

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RE: WHAT THE F**K!!! (Was: Re: Looking for right ISP)

[Paul McHale]

>
> So, lots of reasons not to use Outlook.  I'm curious, why do you
> find it to be the
> best available?  What does it offer that, say, Netscape can't do
> with a good IMAP
> server?
>

Thanks for the reply !

The best part of Outlook is it's integration.  It works with my Pilot, has a
PIM which is descent.  My only complaint is it can't be minimized to the
system tray.  For me to try to switch at this point would be very
unpleasant.  It's lack of configurability is annoying.  Otherwise it does a
decent job.  Overall, it is the best bang for the buck.  I have looked at
Goldmine and ACT!.  Outlook has the best one stop application.  Another
complaint, as I type this email I check the performance monitor and see
Outlook is using just under 10MB of RAM.  A little steep for a program that
must stay open ...

paul



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Re: Atari ST as Dumb Terminal

[Phil Brutsche]

A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said...

> Hi all,
> 
> I wish to connect my old Atari ST to my linux box running slink with a serial
> cable and use it basically as a dumb terminal.

Fair enough.

> Could someone please point me in the direction of some useful documentation as
> to how to do this.

This is the relevant portion of /etc/inittab on my workstation:

[...]
T0:23:respawn:/sbin/getty -L ttyS0 9600 vt100
T1:23:respawn:/sbin/getty -L ttyS1 9600 vt100
[...]

Dont forget to restart init ('kill -1 1', or just reboot if that's less
harrowing) when you're done.  It won't work otherwise.

> Also does anyone know what software would be required on the Atari to
> be able to do this

On the Atari, all you need is a program that speaks VT100 (or ANSI or VT52
or VT220 or...) over the serial port.  Something that can use the modem
will work just fine; I like to user kermit (don't know if it's available
on an Atari).  Just make sure that the terminal program is set for:

 * 8 bits
 * no parity
 * 1 stop bit
 * the baud rate matches what you have in /etc/inittab.

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Re: Having apt-get mount -o remount,rw/ro /usr

[Ethan Benson]

On 3/12/99 Shaul Karl wrote:


It seems to me that the mount -o remount,rw/ro /usr feature of apt-get is not
working.
Am I correct?


from my experience no.


Can someone who have managed to do it can tell me how it is done?


my /etc/apt/apt.conf:

DPkg
{
// Auto remount readonly /usr
Pre-Invoke {"mount -o remount,rw /usr";};
Post-Invoke {"mount -o remount,ro /usr";};
}

works for me (TM)

note that as someone pointed out to me, if a package overwrites a 
file that is in use you will not be able to remount /usr readonly 
again until the file is closed.  so remounting read write always 
works but remounting read only again after the install/update may 
fail.


I use latest potato YMMV.



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Re: WHAT THE F**K!!! (Was: Re: Looking for right ISP)

[Matthew Dalton]

Paul McHale wrote:

> The best part of Outlook is it's integration.  It works with my Pilot, has a
> PIM which is descent.

Descent was a great game. Alas, it is no PIM.

> Outlook has [sic] the best one stop application.

Thems fightin' words. Prepare for ample flame-age, dude.

Re: firewalls and bsd

[Sprovski Bozidar]

This is truly interesting. Since I wish to make an experimental firewall at 
work, I
was wondering whether anyone can point me in the right direction. Where can I
find/download a FreeBSD??

Arcady Genkin wrote:

> Kenneth Scharf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > If there are any debian-bsd people here maybe they can
> > answer this.  I have been doing some reading and have
> > heard that some of the BSD variants are considered a
> > better canidate os for a firewall system than linux
> > (herertic!).  OpenBSD in particular was highly
> > regarded  in this (though it was said to be a RPITA to
> > install).  Any thoughts on this out there?
>
> Reportedly, *BSD's have the fastest TCI/IP stack in the industry. They
> are also pretty secure, out of the box. For example, while Linux
> mounts disk partitions asynchronously, my FreeBSD installation mounts
> syncronously by default.
>
> I run Debian on my main workstation, and FreeBSD on my
> NAT/Firewall/www-server/cvs-server box. That one is a P133/32M, and
> copes beautifully with the load (well, the load is not *that* great).
>
> Also, I cannot help but admire FreeBSD's mechanisms for
> updates/upgrades. IMHO the "ports collection" system is remarkable.
>
> It was very easy to install and configure.
> HTH,
> --
> Arcady Genkinhttp://wgaf.dyndns.org
> "'What good is my pity? Is not the pity the cross upon which he who
> loves man is nailed?..'" (Zarathustra - F. Nietzsche)
>
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RE: [off-topic] MS Outlook

[Paul McHale]

Brian,

> How do you configure MS-Outlook to add the "References" header, so
> that threads will work properly? Or is this a "feature" of a newer
> version of outlook that wasn't in earlier versions?
>
> While I don't use outlook myself, I find it annoying to receive
> messages from people who do use it, when it doesn't add the
> "References" header. Especially when using Gnus, which makes it
> possible to instantly retrieve the parent article by pressing ^.
>

I am not sure there is a way to configure it in Outlook98, which is the
specific version I have.  The RE: has always worked for me.  I do know there
were significant changes from Outlook97 to Outlook98.  You suggestion may be
one of them.

paul


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Cluster

[Sprovski Bozidar]

I was pondering an idea to make a cluster using two Debian machines. What would 
I need
(both hardware and software) to achieve this???

Dark0

Re: I have decided to give Sawmill a try, but............

[Arcady Genkin]

"Tam Than Ma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> As of right now, I have decided to give Sawmill a try since many people
> recommended it. But my Debian Box doesn't have internet access so I can't
> download or use apt-get to get sawmill online. So how do I go about doing
> this? Can I download the Sawmill package and all its dependant packages on
> floopies from my brother's machine(which uses window 98 :(  )and use apt-get
> to install those packages from floopies on my Debian box?. I wonder if this
> is a good idea because my brother's box is a win98 machine and don't know if
> a apt-get would recognize the files(maybe it could, I don't know, I am kinda
> new to linux). Help me out one more time here guys...And thanx for all your
> recommendations, I appreciate it.

Once you get the debs, you don't need apt. Just copy the debs from a
floppy into anywhere on your linux box's disk, and use dpkg to install
them.

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loves man is nailed?..'" (Zarathustra - F. Nietzsche)

exim and procmail, and how to stop spammers?

[ferret]

I'd like to make exim use procmail to deliver incoming messages by
default, using the ~/.procmailrc file. I haven't been able to make much
headway through the documentation, however. I know sendmail will do this
by default, but sendmail seems to be (with default configurations) more
open to use by spammers. (I just got a spam from localhost relayed TO me
aparantly from the spammer's ISP) and I haven't made much headway with
sendmail, even with having ORA's sendmail book.

This is what I got out of my syslog.
--->
Dec  2 19:12:28 playdough sendmail[29527]: TAA29527:
from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, size=1252, class=0, pri=31252, nrcpts=1,
msgid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, proto=SMTP,
relay=ip210.albany5.ga.pub-ip.psi.net [38.30.3.210]

Dec  2 19:12:28 playdough sendmail[29530]: TAA29527:
to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, delay=00:00:09, xdelay=00:00:00,
mailer=local, stat=Sent
<---
And here's the message headers
--->

Received: from 4kudos2all.com (ip210.albany5.ga.pub-ip.psi.net
[38.30.3.210])
by playdough.mentasm.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id
TAA29527
for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 19:12:19 -0800
Subject: Real Time CC Processing...$39.95/mo
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 21:54:07 -0500
<---


Could someone help me get my MTA (whichever one) working more to what I'm
wanting?

-- Ferret no baka

Re: Outlook and HTML

[Arcady Genkin]

"Paul McHale" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I hunted down the problem with previous post(s) being in HTML.  If you are
> an outlook user and are interested in the resolution, please e-mail.  Most
> people apparently have this set correctly and know how to detect HTML.
> 
> Thanks to everyone for the constructive comments regarding replying styles.

Well, if you *really* want to clean up your act, there is still some
room for improvement:

1. Standard signature separator is "--" with a blank following it.
2. Your sig should not exceed 4 lines.
3. Wrap your lines at 72 characters.

So, there:
> -
>Double E Solutions Attn: Paul McHale
>4912 Effingham Dayton, Ohio 45431
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
>Work:   937-253-7610
>Mobile: 937-371-2828
>Fax:413-215-3232
>Home:   937-253-6260 (anytime)
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error installing emacs?

[Alan Su]

i just did an update for my potato box, and the only error that didn't
correct itself with several Install passes was emacs.  here's the
error, as far as i can tell:

install/dpkg-dev: Byte-compiling for emacs20
cp: debian-changelog-mode.el: No such file or directory
emacs-install: /usr/lib/emacsen-common/packages/install/emacsen-common-install 
emacs20 failed at /usr/lib/emacsen-common/emacs-install line 28.
dpkg: error processing emacs20 (--configure):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 29

does anyone know what's going on?  any ideas on how to fix it?
thanks!

-alan

Re: Clipboard-like software?

[Mark Wagnon]

On 12/02/99 05:00PM, Christopher S. Swingley wrote:
> Don't know how well gpm does this in a console, but X provides this
> automatically with the left (copy) and middle (paste) mouse buttons.
> Works like magic, and is far better IMHO than the key commands you
> have to use in Windows.
> 
> Just select a bunch of text, an url, etc. with the left mouse button,
> move the cursor where you want it (like the location window in Netscape)
> and press the middle mouse button.  Magic!

Yeah, I really like that feature too. Sometimes when using MS Windows
I reallly miss it. What I was looking for was something that did
function a little like the ctrl-c | v | x that MS Windows apps have.
The best of both worlds.

Sometimes I have a bunch of xterms and other apps running, I select
some text, find the one I want to paste into, but somewhere along the
way I double click and lose the selection.

Do you think that's more of a window manager/X thing, or could a util
be written to handle that automagically? If I could program, that
would be something that I'd look into.

Oh well, the search continues...

thanks again
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Re: exim and procmail, and how to stop spammers?

[J C Lawrence]

On Thu, 2 Dec 1999 22:28:12 -0800 (PST) 
ferret  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'd like to make exim use procmail to deliver incoming messages by
> default, using the ~/.procmailrc file. 

Transport:

  procmail_pipe:
driver = pipe
command = "/usr/bin/procmail"
user = ${local_part}
delivery_date_add
envelope_to_add
return_path_add
from_hack

Director:

  procmail:
driver = localuser
require_files = ${local_part}:${home}/.procmailrc
transport = procmail_pipe

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Re: wake-on-ring

[John Leget]

Im not 100% sure on this but don't you need an external modem for that feature 
to
work ?. You dont mention what type you have, i may be wrong wont be the first 
time
and possibly not the last 


Cheers

luis wrote:

> hello
>
> i continue interested in making my box to power-on-ring
>
> i have enabled the option in my BIOS setup: and they say wake-on-ring
> and assigned the irq to the modem
>
> but (as usual) things dont work
>
> i have a GA 7IX motherboard, an external acer modem
>
> i read in the motherboard manual that there is a jumper (jp 9) that
> has 2 lines: signal and ground, i have this jumper isolated, i mean,
> without any conexion
>
> has somebody experience in the harware wiring aspect of this topic?
> how must i wire the jumpers in the motherborad so i could have the
> parameters of the BIOS working?
>
> thanks a lot
>
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Re: LPRng Printing Problem

[Giacomo Mulas]

Also check /etc/lpd.perms. It has stricter defaults in the potato
version, it seems. I had to work a bit with that to get it to work, but
now it definitely does. It is not broken (for me) in potato.

Bye
Giacomo



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Re: WHAT THE F**K!!! (Was: Re: Looking for right ISP)

[Steve Lamb]

Thursday, December 02, 1999, 2:03:33 PM, Adam wrote:
> In one standard (I don't know which), = is a special character used for
> end-of-line and otherwise as an escape character

MIME

> But you're right, Outlook can be made to send in plain text, and your (Paul)
> emails have been good about this.

I disagree considering the email that I replied to of Paul's was HTML.

> Many other clients seem to have adopted this as well. (Actually, I'm not
> sure whether NS started this, it's so widespread that it's probably not just
> NS-originated.)

I'd toss that back on the unix clients, maybe even Pine considering it
handles both email and newsgroups and References is definitely part of the
newsgroups.

>> Quoting the wrong way.  Feel free to expand on this one ...

> I'm not sure what this is referring to.

Adam is quoting the right way.  I am quoting the right way.  Paul and
Daniel were replying with everything at the end.  That is the wrong way.

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Re: debiandoc-sgml: slink-to-potato bug?

[Martin Fluch]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-

On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, Svante Signell wrote:

> Since I'm new to Debian I don't know where to report (possible) bugs
> yet I'm posting it here. Please advise me to the correct list next
> time.  The lists subscribed to so far are: debian-announce,
> debian-news, debian-change, debian-user.
> 
> Output when installing debiandoc-sgml:
> Cannot find termcap: Can't find a valid termcap file at 
> /usr/lib/perl5/5.005/Term/ReadLine.pm
> 
> Status:
> No solution found yet.
> 
> Liking Debian more and more, even though
> installing/configuring/upgrading is not easy compared to other
> distributions. 

There are some debian packages for that: bug and reportbug

If you use the first one to file a bug report, you simply execute the
program 'bug' and follow the instructions given.

But befor that have a look at http://www.debian.org/Bugs and try to figure
out, if not some body else has already reported the same bug.

And btw, this is the only way to asure, that the reported bug reaches the
maintainer, so you should file the above bug report (if nobody else has
done it already) again...

Martin

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Re: Cluster

[Josep Llauradó Selvas]

Hi Sprovski, I don't know more about it, but I can give you a few
interesting adresses to find out more information.

First, the Debian Beowulf:
http://www.debian.org/ports/beowulf/
Second, the Beowulf (the original):
http://beowulf.gsfc.nasa.gov/beowulf.html
The MPI Homepage
http://www.mpi.nd.edu/lam/  
The PVM Homepage
http://www.epm.ornl.gov/pvm/pvm_home.html

I think you have two models of parallel processing in a cluster: MPI and
PVM, you'll find more information into the web pages. 
You don't need any special hard, but you need parallel processing soft:
MPI or PVM. 

  Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1999 07:12:38 +0100
  From: Sprovski Bozidar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
  Cc: slug@slug.org.au
  Subject: Cluster
  
  
  I was pondering an idea to make a cluster using two Debian machines. What 
would I need
  (both hardware and software) to achieve this???
  
  Dark0
  
http://www.debian.org/ports/beowulf/
  
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Re: File permissions when copying CD's?

[Wouter Hanegraaff]

On Fri, Dec 03, 1999 at 01:12:23AM +0100, Svante Signell wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> When copying a CD to a writable CD the source file gets mounted
> read-only, i.e. all files do not have a write flag set. Writing this
> image to a new CD results in a corrupt copy. How to change this
> behaviour? I'm using gtoaster, cdrecord, ...
For data cd's I use cat /dev/cdrom > image.iso, and for audiocd's I wrote a
perl script that uses cdparanoia and cdrdao.

HTH,

Wouter

Static routes

[Denis J. Cirulis]

Hello !

Is there any built in mechanisms for static routing in Debian or i should write 
my own script for up static routing
every time my system is rebooted ?





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help about XLL

[eran . benichou]

I have to develop an .xll program at work and I don't really know how this does
really work.
Do you think you can help me a little with that ?
Maybe you can give me the name of books, former example or whatever.

Thanks,

Eran

Re: Window manager switcher

[Achim Bohnet]

>>>Carl Fink wrote:
 > Achim Bohnet wrote:
 > 
 > > Slink and potato use the
 > > /etc/X11/window-mangers file to determine the default window
 > > manager . . . [etc.]
 > 
 > I *know* that.  I asked specifically about an automated tool so one
 > wouldn't have to edit config files.

I hope you don't refuse to use the shell at all :)

root:

register-window-manager --default $default-win-manager

user:

echo $my-default-win-manager > ~/.wmrc


Writing a GUI tools for these commands is left as an exercise for the
reader :)

Achim
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 > 
 > 
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Re: LPRng Printing Problem

[Mirek Kwasniak]

On Thu, Dec 02, 1999 at 04:53:18PM -0500, David Wilson wrote:

> thanks for the advice.  changing (fixing) permissions did not work.  what
> is the difference between "chown lp " and "chown lp.lp "? i
> tried it both ways.

In potato current lprng (3.6.12-1) uses daemon.lp uid/gid.

Mirek

RE: WHAT THE F**K!!! (Was: Re: Looking for right ISP)

[Felipe Alvarez Harnecker]

Paul McHale writes:
 > >
 > > So, lots of reasons not to use Outlook.  I'm curious, why do you
 > > find it to be the
 > > best available?  What does it offer that, say, Netscape can't do
 > > with a good IMAP
 > > server?
 > >
 > 
 > Thanks for the reply !
 > 
 > The best part of Outlook is it's integration.  It works with my Pilot, has a
 > PIM which is descent.  My only complaint is it can't be minimized to the
 > system tray.  For me to try to switch at this point would be very
 > unpleasant.  It's lack of configurability is annoying.  Otherwise it does a
 > decent job.  Overall, it is the best bang for the buck.  I have looked at
 > Goldmine and ACT!.  Outlook has the best one stop application.  Another
 > complaint, as I type this email I check the performance monitor and see
 > Outlook is using just under 10MB of RAM.  A little steep for a program that
 > must stay open ...
 > 
 > paul

Real men use VM under XEmacs. That's integration. ( This is declared
war i think ;-) )

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acorp 10/100Mbps PCMCIA Fast Ethernet Adapter.

[Mirek Kwasniak]

Hi, 

How to configure Acorp 10/100 PCMCIA ethernet card ?

Mirek

cfdisk table: unusable space??

[J Horacio MG]

Looking at the cfsdisk table, I've just seen this (just look at the last
line of the table):

hda1   Boot Primary Linux ext2  78.45
hda2Primary Linux ext2  78.45
hda5Logical Linux ext2  1498.25
hda6Logical Linux ext2  353.00
hda7Logical Linux ext2  596.17
hda8Logical Linux ext2  698.14
hda9Logical Linux ext2  1098.20
hda10   Logical Linux ext2  1396.28
hda11   Logical Linux ext2  1396.28
hda12   Logical Linux ext2  376.53
hda13   Logical Linux ext2  266.71
hda3Primary Linux Swap  196.11
Unusable172.58

Unusable???  what does this mean?

fdisk reports at start:

The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 1046.
There is nothing wrong with that, but this is larger than 1024,
and could in certain setups cause problems with:
1) software that runs at boot time (e.g., LILO)
2) booting and partitioning software from other OSs
   (e.g., DOS FDISK, OS/2 FDISK)

but the fdisk table says nothing about unusable space:

Command (m for help): p

Disk /dev/hda: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 1046 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes

   Device Boot   Start  End   Blocks   Id  System
/dev/hda1   *1   1080293+  83  Linux native
/dev/hda2   11   2080325   83  Linux native
/dev/hda3 1000 1024   200812+  82  Linux swap
/dev/hda4   21  999  7863817+   5  Extended
/dev/hda5   21  211  1534176   83  Linux native
/dev/hda6  212  256   361431   83  Linux native
/dev/hda7  257  332   610438+  83  Linux native
/dev/hda8  333  421   714861   83  Linux native
/dev/hda9  422  561  1124518+  83  Linux native
/dev/hda10 562  739  1429753+  83  Linux native
/dev/hda11 740  917  1429753+  83  Linux native
/dev/hda12 918  965   385528+  83  Linux native
/dev/hda13 966  999   273073+  83  Linux native


TIA

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THNKS! (Was Re: Adding a lot of users in a single operation.)

[Jose L Gomez Dans]

Thanks for your help. In the end, I used mkpasswd (as included with
expect) to do this. It was only after the whole thing was up and running
that I found out about chpasswd.

I was thinking that since quite a number of people I know start
using Linux/Debian at home, and then "fertilize" their work environment, we
tend to find these problems. This could be a great question to put in FAQ.

Again, thanks for your help,
Jose

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exim config probs

[Mario Olimpio de Menezes]

Hi,

I'm having some troubles with exim configuration.
I had set a masquerade box, that will work as smtp server for
incoming and outgoing messages. 
I've (tried) to configure exim (w/ eximconfig) so that internal
machines (that use us as smart server) can send and receive e-mail with
netscape. 
To do this, I listed all ip's, domains of the internal machines as
allowed to relay, but when I try to send a e-mail using netscape and the
server as smtp, it refuses relaying to whom the message is being sent. 
I'm confused here: what should be necessary to do in order to have
internal machines sending email through the server (smtp)?
In case I couldn't be understood, I'll exemplify:

message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (outside, valid address)
from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (internal, valid address)

try to send; message from netscape:

"An error occurred sending mail.
The mail server responded:
 relaying to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> prohibited by administrator
Please check the message recipients and try again."


server: curiango.ipen.br
client: 192.168.9.10  (internal machine)


What should I do?

[]s,
Mario O.de Menezes"Many are the plans in a man's heart, but
IPEN-CNEN/SP is the Lord's purpose that prevails"
http://curiango.ipen.br/~mario Prov. 19.21
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PDF wont work with Potato and Acrobat... Anyone?

[Alan Eugene Davis]

Has anyone gotten Acrobat to work on Potato?  I have often if not
always gotten a message that Acrobat on this system of mine (Potato)
cannot grok\footnote{understand} the file, because it's a
compressed(?)  format .pdf.

Is anyone using TeX/LaTeX to produce PDF?  Can the PDF be understood
by commonly available PDF readers?  I run TeXLive, up to date, so My
Milage May VaryTM).  I cannot get anywhere.  I have waited for a
library chance (I have noticed with Debian over the past four years
(+) that if I wait long enough, some bugs disappear with a package
update).  



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Re: Static routes

[Marc Mongeon]

Denis:

Static routes are configured by /etc/init.d/network.

Marc

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>>> "Denis J. Cirulis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 12/03 3:28 AM >>>
Hello !

Is there any built in mechanisms for static routing in Debian or i should write 
my own script for up static routing
every time my system is rebooted ?





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Re: LPRng Printing Problem

[Petru NOTINGHER]

Try to use the stable version (3.5.xx). It fixed my problem.
Mirek Kwasniak wrote:
On Thu, Dec 02, 1999 at 04:53:18PM -0500, David Wilson
wrote:
> thanks for the advice.  changing (fixing) permissions did not
work.  what
> is the difference between "chown lp " and "chown lp.lp
"? i
> tried it both ways.
In potato current lprng (3.6.12-1) uses daemon.lp uid/gid.
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Licq 0.71

[Bruno Goncalves Russo]

What's happening with the latest version o Licq? I've just upgraded to it
and I'm getting the following error:

russo:~$ licq
16:38:50: [ERR] Unable to load plugin (/usr/lib/licq/licq_qt-gui.so):
/usr/lib/licq/licq_qt-gui.so: undefined symbol:
setEnabled__11QScrollViewb.  

TIA,

Bruno.

[Fwd: where does libjpeg.so.6a come from ?]

[Robert J. Alexander]

Sorry ... my EXIM has gone awry !!--- Begin Message ---
I am unable to perform a kernel "make xconfig" since it abend when
invoking the "wish" command stating that it does not find libjpeg.so.6a.

This is an unstable install .

Thank you. Bob
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where does libjpeg.so.6a come from ?

[Robert J. Alexander]

I am unable to perform a kernel "make xconfig" since it abend when
invoking the "wish" command stating that it does not find libjpeg.so.6a.

This is an unstable install .

Thank you. Bob

Re: Atari ST as Dumb Terminal

[John Miskinis]

Hello David,

I wish to connect my old Atari ST to my linux box running slink with a 
serial

cable and use it basically as a dumb terminal.

Could someone please point me in the direction of some useful documentation 
as
to how to do this.  Also does anyone know what software would be required 
on

the Atari to be able to do this



As far as software, there is a package called "uniterm" that was
written by a fellow employee at DIGITAL many moons ago.  At the
time it was free to employees, but I believe he released it into
the public domain, a few years later.  It has "full" VT100, and
even VT102 emulation, and can be configured in a multitude of
ways.  I used it all the time when telecommuting back then (in
the good 'ole days).

In any case, if a web search does not turn up anything, I'm sure
I can scrounge up a copy.  I would prefer to make sure it's OK
to distribute first, but I'm pretty sure it is out there on the
web in a few places.  If my memory serves me correct, .19 was
the final version.

Keep us posted,  I've got some STs laying around, and I know at
least one works, so I will probably be getting to this task myself
soon.  I'm not sure if a NULL modem will be necessary, I forget all
that stuff.  I believe the serial port on the ST is a MODEM port,
which may have 2 signals switched from what a standard serial port
on a linux box expects.  I'm sure others can elaborate.  I'd
wait until someome confirms this.  I do not believe it can cause any
damage, it just won't work.  But these days, I tend to take the
safer route when experimenting with my hardware.

Also, somewhat off topic, there is an ST emulator called "STONX"
(ST on X) which I also want to check out soon.  I once wrote a
small window system and Motif-like widget set layered on top of
LINEA, and custom device drivers for the MIDI, mouse, and keyboard.
It would be quite amazing if this could actually run on a linux box!

John

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Re: ppp hangups...

[John Hasler]

Jonathan Lupa writes:
> Is it just because things are hairy on the ISP end?

Yes.  This is your pppd discovering that the ISP has gone away.  That's
what LCP echo requests are for.
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Supported video chip-sets

[Egbert Bouwman]

Hello,
I am going to buy a new computer, but which video adapter/chip-set ?
Many powerful new computers come with things like
Matrox G400 or NVidia Riva TNT2.
I am still using Slink with XFree 3.3.2, where these chips are not
supported. However they are supported in potatoe with XFree86 3.3.5.

Does this mean that I _have _ to upgrade in order to use them,
or  can i use them in Slink without their extra functionality ?
For upgrading I prefer to wait for a stable potatoe, 
or at least for potato-cdroms.

There are some completely new chip-set brands in 3.3.5, such as
3dfx  with Voodoo Banshee and Voodoo3,
3DLabs with GLINT and Permedia chips.
I don't even dare to ask.

And some Diamond cards come with a 'Savage 4', which I cannot find 
in any XFree86 documentation. What is it ? 
egbert

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Re: LPRng Printing Problem

[Mirek Kwasniak]

On Fri, Dec 03, 1999 at 02:24:24PM +0100, Petru NOTINGHER wrote:
> Try to use the stable version (3.5.xx). It fixed my problem.

I don't have any problem with lprng :)

> 
> Mirek Kwasniak wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, Dec 02, 1999 at 04:53:18PM -0500, David Wilson wrote:
> >
> > > thanks for the advice.  changing (fixing) permissions did not work.  what
> > > is the difference between "chown lp " and "chown lp.lp "? i
> > > tried it both ways.
> >
> > In potato current lprng (3.6.12-1) uses daemon.lp uid/gid.
> >
> > Mirek

Re: LPRng Printing Problem (no remote printing)

[Bruno Boettcher]

Hello,

i use this thread since it is alive to report my own problem, having problems
with remote printing and standard lpd (the jobs were stored on the server with
a uid/gid that the lpd daemon couldn't retreive, filling my var completely up
blocking other services as mail etc...) i tryyed to switch to this new type of
service...

i thought having configured it correctly, putting on the local side 
lp|erm1|remote:\
:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

on the server making abstraction of all the comments i have in /etc/lpd.perms:
ACCEPT SERVICE=C SERVER REMOTEUSER=root
ACCEPT SERVICE=C LPC=lpd,status,printcap
REJECT SERVICE=C
ACCEPT SERVICE=M SAMEHOST SAMEUSERACCEPT SERVICE=M SERVER REMOTEUSER=root
REJECT SERVICE=M
DEFAULT ACCEPT

and in the printcap the same block as for standard lpd:
lp|hplj4l|HP Laserjet 4L:\
:lp=/dev/lp0:sd=/var/spool/lpd/hplj4l:\
:sh:pw#80:pl#72:px#1440:mx#0:\
:if=/etc/magicfilter/ljet4m-filter:\
:af=/var/log/lp-acct:lf=/var/log/lp-errs:
(BTW it is in fact a laserjet 5l but it works...)

printing directly from the server works perfectly, trying to print from a
client gives:
localhost:~$ lpr 1.doc.txt
Status Information:
 sending job '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 connecting to 'localhost', attempt 1
 connected to 'localhost'
 requesting printer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 error 'LINK_TRANSFER_FAIL' sending str '^Blp' to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 job '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' transfer to [EMAIL PROTECTED] failed

the client in this case is my laptop (thus the name is not defined.., but the
ip is)

i prepared a line REJECT SERVICE=X NOT REMOTEIP=130.79.74.0/255.255.255.0 to
reduce access to only our subcircuit, but at the moment apart from the server
nobody is able to print on it anyways. so what's wrong
 

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dselect Install

[Carmine Lucarelli]

Hi all.  Searched the archives and checked out the dselect tutorial, but
couldn't find a satisfactory answer.  I installed Debian 2.1 a couple of days
ago, and now want to install the suggested development packages.  I get the
package list through apt just fine, and was able to download (through dselect)
80MB of the ~130MB I needed.  At this point, the connection was reset and the
install stopped.  So if I run install again, will it re-download the 80 megs?
When I run configure, it only lasts a second or two and exits.  Does that mean
all packages in the 80 megs are now installed and configured?  Where do the .deb
files get downloaded to?  How about the executables?

Alot of questions, so thanks in advance...

SMP

[Tobias Rundström]

Hello.

Anyone knows if you can run SMP on a system with one Pentium II 233mhz and one
Pentium II 366mhz or if this will mean problem?



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What video card do I use?

[Rick Dunnivan]

I just laoded Debian for the first time.  When I run
XF86Setup, I dont see my video card listed and am not
sure how to go about using the advanced options.  I
have a 16MB nVidia RIVA TNT AGP.  Can anyone help me?


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ISO-8859-15: setfont and default font

[J Horacio MG]

Hi,

I have defined iso-8859-15 charset in my $HOME/.bash_profile, and it
works as such if I set a proper font for it, eg.:

# setfont lat9u-16.psf

lat9u-16.psf is a font I copied into /usr/share/consolefonts/.  I use
/etc/kbd/default.map for getting characters specific of iso-8859-15,
just binding keys to them.  I even added the lat9u-16.psf font map to
/etc/kbd/config:

CONSOLE_FONT=lat9u-16.psf

so that it would load at bootup, but it won't, I have to `setfont'
everytime I reboot.

How can I have a font map loaded as default?  Also, where could I find
more font maps and information about the character names?


TIA,

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Re: dselect Install

[Evan Moore]

well as far as i know dselect will start out where it last left off and
finish intalling the rest of the 130 Megs, i'm not sure if it has
installed these packages yet or not, i would guess not. if you are using
apt mehtod of getting your debs then they will be downloaded to
/var/cache/apt/archives/ the executables will be installed i various
places on your system as well as the config files. look in /bin /sbin
/usr/bin /usr/sbin and more

On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, Carmine Lucarelli wrote:

> 
> Hi all.  Searched the archives and checked out the dselect tutorial, but
> couldn't find a satisfactory answer.  I installed Debian 2.1 a couple of days
> ago, and now want to install the suggested development packages.  I get the
> package list through apt just fine, and was able to download (through dselect)
> 80MB of the ~130MB I needed.  At this point, the connection was reset and the
> install stopped.  So if I run install again, will it re-download the 80 megs?
> When I run configure, it only lasts a second or two and exits.  Does that mean
> all packages in the 80 megs are now installed and configured?  Where do the 
> .deb
> files get downloaded to?  How about the executables?
> 
> Alot of questions, so thanks in advance...
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Supported video chip-sets

[Brian Servis]

*- On  3 Dec, Egbert Bouwman wrote about "Supported video chip-sets"
> Hello,
> I am going to buy a new computer, but which video adapter/chip-set ?
> Many powerful new computers come with things like
> Matrox G400 or NVidia Riva TNT2.
> I am still using Slink with XFree 3.3.2, where these chips are not
> supported. However they are supported in potatoe with XFree86 3.3.5.
> 
> Does this mean that I _have _ to upgrade in order to use them,
> or  can i use them in Slink without their extra functionality ?
> For upgrading I prefer to wait for a stable potatoe, 
> or at least for potato-cdroms.
> 

A developer has compiled 3.3.5 for slink. See
http://www.debian.org/~vincent.

So you are not forced to upgrade to potato, although it is really quite
stable now.


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Re: What video card do I use?

[Brian Servis]

*- On  3 Dec, Rick Dunnivan wrote about "What video card do I use?"
> I just laoded Debian for the first time.  When I run
> XF86Setup, I dont see my video card listed and am not
> sure how to go about using the advanced options.  I
> have a 16MB nVidia RIVA TNT AGP.  Can anyone help me?
> 

Slink comes with XFree86 3.3.2, you need to upgrade to XFree86 3.3.5
which can be found at http://www.debian.org/~vincent.
 
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apt-get on local filesystem

[Robert J. Alexander]

I have a copy of debian/dists/unstable on my hard disk 
I am too dumb to understand how to specify the correct string in
/etc/apt/sources.list so that apt will use this source instead of the
HTTP sites (to which I have no connectivity).

BTW I tried setting the $http_proxy environment var but also this task
is too daunting for me 8-<<<

Tried export $http_proxy=http://9.87.251.63:8080/   

Thank you. Bob

Re: Clipboard-like software?

[Phillip Rulon]

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   > Just select a bunch of text, an url, etc. with the left mouse button,
   > move the cursor where you want it (like the location window in Netscape)
   > and press the middle mouse button.  Magic!

   Yeah, I really like that feature too. Sometimes when using MS Windows
   I reallly miss it. What I was looking for was something that did
   function a little like the ctrl-c | v | x that MS Windows apps have.
   The best of both worlds.

Afterstep does this.

pjr

Re: LPRng Printing Problem (no remote printing)

[Mirek Kwasniak]

Hi, I use lprng but maybe I help you


On Fri, Dec 03, 1999 at 03:29:25PM +0100, Bruno Boettcher wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> i use this thread since it is alive to report my own problem, having problems
> with remote printing and standard lpd (the jobs were stored on the server with
> a uid/gid that the lpd daemon couldn't retreive, filling my var completely up
> blocking other services as mail etc...) i tryyed to switch to this new type of
> service...
> 
> i thought having configured it correctly, putting on the local side 
> lp|erm1|remote:\
> :[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> on the server making abstraction of all the comments i have in /etc/lpd.perms:
> ACCEPT SERVICE=C SERVER REMOTEUSER=root
> ACCEPT SERVICE=C LPC=lpd,status,printcap
> REJECT SERVICE=C
> ACCEPT SERVICE=M SAMEHOST SAMEUSERACCEPT SERVICE=M SERVER REMOTEUSER=root
^^^
I think, this is in a separate line?

> REJECT SERVICE=M
> DEFAULT ACCEPT

My /etc/lpd.perms is identical, but when I try your printcap entry I get

$ lpq -v -Plpx
Printer: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Error:  - no spool directory for printer 'lpx'
$ checkpc
Warning - lpx: Bad printcap entry - missing 'sd' or 'client' entry?
lpx|erm1|remote
 :[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
My working printcap on client is:

ljt|toshiba|Toshiba PageLaser8:\
  :lp=/dev/null:\
  :[EMAIL PROTECTED]:\
:sd=/var/spool/lpd/toshiba:\
:sh:pw#80:pl#72:px#1440:mx#0:\
:if=/usr/sbin/ljet2p-filter:\
:af=/var/log/lp-acct:lf=/var/log/lp-errs:


Mirek

Re: NNTP server.

[Peter Schuller]

> I want to install an NNTP server and news reader so that I can read some
> news groups I am interested in. The machine I have runs on Hamm, and has
> very little free disk space (about 145 M in /usr and 20 M in /var).
> However, I am interested only in a few newsgroups, mainly comp.text.tex.
> Could anyone provide a few hints on how to proceed, and on possible
> security problems?

You should try Leafnode. It's a small-scale news server intended for dial-up
connections and the like. It's perfect for off-line news reading.

(I don't have the URL handy at the moment... but if a search on google.com
doesn't yield any results, I'd be happy to dig it up)

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Re: What video card do I use?

[Rick Dunnivan]

I have a winmodem and thus have not configured ppp
yet. How do I go about doing this without being on the
net?


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Re: exim config probs

[Mark Wagnon]

On 12/03/99 10:23AM, Mario Olimpio de Menezes wrote:
>   I'm having some troubles with exim configuration.
>   I had set a masquerade box, that will work as smtp server for
> incoming and outgoing messages. 
>   I've (tried) to configure exim (w/ eximconfig) so that internal
> machines (that use us as smart server) can send and receive e-mail with
> netscape. 
>   To do this, I listed all ip's, domains of the internal machines as
> allowed to relay, but when I try to send a e-mail using netscape and the
> server as smtp, it refuses relaying to whom the message is being sent. 
>   I'm confused here: what should be necessary to do in order to have
> internal machines sending email through the server (smtp)?
>   In case I couldn't be understood, I'll exemplify:
>   
>   message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (outside, valid address)
>   from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (internal, valid address)
> 
>   try to send; message from netscape:
> 
>   "An error occurred sending mail.
>   The mail server responded:
>relaying to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> prohibited by administrator
>   Please check the message recipients and try again."
> 
>   server: curiango.ipen.br
>   client: 192.168.9.10  (internal machine)

Did you make sure that you have set up exim to do relaying for your
internal network? You neet to put the network address when eximconf
asks you about relaying local networks. I 've never set this up
before, but you can take a look at a Linux Gazette article that's
really helpful. 

  http://www.linuxgazette.com/issue43/stumpel.html

You probably already have all the preliminary stuff set up, such as
filtering/forward mail into separate email folders, but I think that
if you address the relaying for your local net, that you'll be on the
right træck. Sometime like answering 192.168.9.0/16 when prompted for
additional local machines you want to relay mail for. I don't know
what the '/16' does though.

There are a bunch of more knowledgeable people on this list who
(hopefully) will chime in to clear up any of [my] misconceptions.

Hope I was helpful and good luck

Rereading your message, I'm not sure how much help I was. Take a look
that article for some pointers. The author is trying to do the same
thing only with a windows client...

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Re: apt-get on local filesystem

[Adam C Powell IV]

"Robert J. Alexander" wrote:

> I have a copy of debian/dists/unstable on my hard disk 
> I am too dumb to understand how to specify the correct string in
> /etc/apt/sources.list so that apt will use this source instead of the
> HTTP sites (to which I have no connectivity).

Use file:/whatever/debian

Zeen,

-Adam P.

Re: ppp hangups...

[Raphael Clancy]

Could be noise on the phone line, though there's not too much to be done about 
it.  If stability is your main concern you could connect at a lower speed 
(YUK!).  Or if it's really bad, (ie you can hear noise when talking on the 
phone) you can call your phone company. I'd recommend against that option 
though... If your phone company is anything like ours, not only will they 
charge you for the visit, any line which can support a 2400bps conection is 
considered good, so they are more than likley going to tell you that the line 
is fine (Yay USWorst!)

R.

>>> Jonathan Lupa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 12/02/99 09:51PM >>>
I've been getting dropped from my ISP unexpectedly from time to time
and I'm not sure how to go about debugging it.  There is nothing
unusual in syslog or messages, but I noticed this in ppp.log. (kernel
2.2.12 pppd 2.3p5).  Any debugging tips would be greatly appreciated!

Dec  2 23:38:08 Sith pppd[22741]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0xbf
magic=0xd4cbdb59]
Dec  2 23:38:38 Sith pppd[22741]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0xc0
magic=0xd4cbdb59]
Dec  2 23:39:08 Sith pppd[22741]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0xc1
magic=0xd4cbdb59]
Dec  2 23:39:38 Sith pppd[22741]: No response to 4 echo-requests
Dec  2 23:39:38 Sith pppd[22741]: Serial link appears to be
disconnected.
Dec  2 23:39:38 Sith pppd[22741]: sent [LCP TermReq id=0x2 "Peer not
responding"
Dec  2 23:39:40 Sith pppd[22741]: Hangup (SIGHUP)
Dec  2 23:39:40 Sith pppd[22741]: Modem hangup
Dec  2 23:39:40 Sith pppd[22741]: Connection terminated.
Dec  2 23:39:41 Sith pppd[22741]: Exit.

Is it just because things are hairy on the ISP end?  As soon as I dial
back in, everything works fine again (and there is no apparent time
interval for which this happens).

I know about the lcp-echo options and will play around with them, but
I'm hoping someone can tell me whats going on behind the curtain here.

Thanks All!
-Jonathan
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NIS and groups

[Adam C Powell IV]

Greetings,

To get Netscape movemail working on my NIS server, I did:

adduser hazelsct mail

so NS could write a lock file to /var/spool/mail.  However, when I try
to do this on the NIS clients, I get

# adduser hazelsct mail
Adding user hazelsct to group mail...
usermod: hazelsct not found in /etc/passwd
adduser: `usermod -G mail hazelsct' returned error code 6.  Aborting.
Cleaning up.

Of course hazelsct isn't in /etc/passwd, because hazelsct isn't a local
user!

Same goes for group floppy, to write to the floppy disk, and numerous
others.

How do I set things up so that either it will recognize group
memberships on the NIS server, or else allow me to add NIS users to
local groups?  Do I need to eliminate local groups like floppy, mail,
etc?

System info: latest potato on x86.

TIA,

-Adam P.

Re: firewalls and bsd

[Arcady Genkin]

Sprovski Bozidar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> This is truly interesting. Since I wish to make an experimental firewall at 
> work, I
> was wondering whether anyone can point me in the right direction. Where can I
> find/download a FreeBSD??

www.freebsd.org

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Re: wake-on-ring

[aphro]

usually you need an internal modem with a wake on ring connector and a
wake on ring connector on the motherboard to take advantage of this.

*i* dont know of any other way to wake on ring..

nate

On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, John Leget wrote:

johnjl >Im not 100% sure on this but don't you need an external modem for that 
feature to
johnjl >work ?. You dont mention what type you have, i may be wrong wont be the 
first time
johnjl >and possibly not the last 
johnjl >
johnjl >
johnjl >Cheers
johnjl >
johnjl >luis wrote:
johnjl >
johnjl >> hello
johnjl >>
johnjl >> i continue interested in making my box to power-on-ring
johnjl >>
johnjl >> i have enabled the option in my BIOS setup: and they say wake-on-ring
johnjl >> and assigned the irq to the modem
johnjl >>
johnjl >> but (as usual) things dont work
johnjl >>
johnjl >> i have a GA 7IX motherboard, an external acer modem
johnjl >>
johnjl >> i read in the motherboard manual that there is a jumper (jp 9) that
johnjl >> has 2 lines: signal and ground, i have this jumper isolated, i mean,
johnjl >> without any conexion
johnjl >>
johnjl >> has somebody experience in the harware wiring aspect of this topic?
johnjl >> how must i wire the jumpers in the motherborad so i could have the
johnjl >> parameters of the BIOS working?
johnjl >>
johnjl >> thanks a lot
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Re: SMP

[aphro]

On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, [iso-8859-1] Tobias Rundstr?m wrote:

tobi >Anyone knows if you can run SMP on a system with one Pentium II 233mhz 
and one
tobi >Pentium II 366mhz or if this will mean problem?

it quite possibly could cause problems depending on what the machine does
for a living, the cpus can easily get out of synch causing odd behavior or
even crashes/dataloss.(regaurdless of what SMP capable OS you use). try
underclocking the 366 or overclocking the 233 ..get the speeds as close as
possible..233 and 366 is a big difference.

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Re: What video card do I use?

[aphro]

On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, Rick Dunnivan wrote:

rdunni >I have a winmodem and thus have not configured ppp
rdunni >yet. How do I go about doing this without being on the
rdunni >net?

It's a multistep process to getting your problem solved.

1) take out modem
2) go to store, buy new modem (not winmodem
3) install new modem (reccomend USR, Diamond, or Zoomtel)
4) configure ppp with pppconfig
5) logon to the net

:)

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Re: error installing emacs?

[Sven Esbjerg]

On Thu, Dec 02, 1999 at 10:46:06PM -0800, Alan Su wrote:
> i just did an update for my potato box, and the only error that didn't
> correct itself with several Install passes was emacs.  here's the
> error, as far as i can tell:
> 
> install/dpkg-dev: Byte-compiling for emacs20
> cp: debian-changelog-mode.el: No such file or directory
> emacs-install: 
> /usr/lib/emacsen-common/packages/install/emacsen-common-install emacs20 
> failed at /usr/lib/emacsen-common/emacs-install line 28.
> dpkg: error processing emacs20 (--configure):
>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 29
> 
> does anyone know what's going on?  any ideas on how to fix it?
> thanks!

The file debian-changelog-mode.el is located in a different directory than the
installscript expects. Do a 'locate filename' an move or copy the file to the
directory the installscripts looks in. On my machine it's:
/usr/share/dpkg/site-lisp/dpkg/debian-changelog-mode.el
/usr/share/emacs/20.3/site-lisp/dpkg-dev/debian-changelog-mode.elc


Good luck.
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Re: Clipboard-like software?

[J C Lawrence]

On Thu, 2 Dec 1999 22:50:21 -0800 
Mark Wagnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Sometimes I have a bunch of xterms and other apps running, I
> select some text, find the one I want to paste into, but somewhere
> along the way I double click and lose the selection.

XClipboard can help here in that it can keep a stack of preserved
clipboard buffers.  There's also the `cutview` utility which I've
mostly used on commercial Unixes, which will automatically maintain
a stack of the last N X clipboards (ie it automagically grabs things 
as you select them), but I'm not sure where source for that is.

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Re: Window manager switcher

[Eric G . Miller]

This may not be exactly what your looking for, but xsm (x session
manager) can sort of do something like that. You have to set up
sessions, and AFAIK you can't change sessions midstream. Some window
managers are "session aware" so changing your window manager will be
saved for the next session -- provided you also don't have an entry to
start a window manager in that particular session.

The problem with gnome and kde is they are finicky about their window
managers. However, you can set up both gnome and kde sessions as well as
bare bone fvwm. You chose your session after login. xsm is suggested by
gdm in potato and the set-up works very well. I have flwm,
Enlightenment and IceWm sessions managed by xsm, and then let gdm fire
up my gnome session using sawmill. 

It's easy to use, check it out.
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Installing from boot disk and CD

[Tim Ayers]

Hi,

I'm trying to install slink on a Compaq Deskpro 6000. This computer
has an Adaptec SCSI controller so I need to boot using the special
Rescue and Driver Floppies for Adaptec from
http://www.debian.org/~adric/aic7xxx/. But I would like to install
everything else from the CDs I ordered from Linuxmall.

I've tried several permutations without luck. I'm hoping a kind soul
will tell me the steps to take. :-) Thanks a lot!

Hope you have a very nice day, :-)
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Norman, Oklahoma

booting from an ext2 HD when Linux is on a second HD

[Loren King]

I have two HD's, /dev/hda is the master, but Linux is installed on
/dev/hdb.  Originally, the master drive was DOS, and I used loadlin to
start Linux on the second HD.  Something fatal happened to my original
DOS HD, so now I've put a new HD in its place, made it ext2, and mounted
it as extra space.  I don't want to reinstall Linux, but I can't seem to
figure out how to get LILO to put the boot stuff on /dev/hda and then
start up Linux on /dev/hdb.  I've copied the boot directory to /dev/hda,
but when I specify root=/dev/hdb in lilo.conf, LILO gives me a warning:
"hdb not on first drive."  It also seems to be writing the boot sector
to hdb instead of hda, and nothing I do seems to change this.  When I
restart, things freeze up right after the memory check, and instead I
have to boot off of a boot floppy.  Am I missing something really
obvious here?  Could someone point me in the right direction?  Thanks in
advance, L.

Re: exim config probs

[Mario Olimpio de Menezes]

On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, Mark Wagnon wrote:

> Did you make sure that you have set up exim to do relaying for your
> internal network? You neet to put the network address when eximconf
> asks you about relaying local networks. I 've never set this up
> before, but you can take a look at a Linux Gazette article that's
> really helpful. 


Hi,

I found the prob. I think that eximconfig ask for a comma or space
separated list of domains to relay for. Well, this doesn't work. You must
use a colon separated list of domains.  
Even the entry (host_accept_relay) wasn't added to exim.conf but a
carefully read at specs.txt solved the problem.
I added to lines:

relay_domains = *.my.domain
host_accept_relay = localhost:192.168.9.0/24:192.168.10.0/24:*.my.domain

Now exim is happy in accepting mail from my internal machines.

Thanks,

[]s,
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RE: SMP

[Paul McHale]

>
> Anyone knows if you can run SMP on a system with one Pentium II
> 233mhz and one
> Pentium II 366mhz or if this will mean problem?

I have two Dual boards and have run SMP under NT for some time.  On the
boards that I have, you can't set the processors at different speeds.  There
is one speed selection.  I think the processors would have all sorts of
problems if you were able to set them to different speeds.  I think you have
two choices.  Run both processors at 233MHz.  This is the safest option.
Overclock the 233MHz processor to some higher speed.  I doubt it will go
from 233 to 366.  I have heard of some insane over clocking.  For me,
reliability is too much of an issue to over clock.

I haven't heard of a PII-366.  Is this a celeron, by chance.  There is
another issue with SMP.  Go to Intel's web site.  Much to my surprise, not
all PII-XXXs are equal.  You have to look for a compatible step of the
processor.  I.e. A PII-450 step 1 may not be SMP compatible with a PII-450
step 3.  When I bought mine, I bought a singe PII-300.  Later, I couldn't
get an SMP compatible PII-300 so I had to move up to a PII-333 to go SMP.
For this reason, I would strongly suggest anyone thinking about getting a
dual MB either get two processors when you buy the MB or save $$$ and get a
single MB with a better processor.

Note this is based on my experience with Asus and Soyo MB running Intel.  I
don't know anything about SMP with non-Intel processors.  I would really
like to hear about dual Athlons !

paul

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Re: LPRng Printing Problem (no remote printing)

[Bruno Boettcher]

> > ACCEPT SERVICE=M SAMEHOST SAMEUSERACCEPT SERVICE=M SERVER REMOTEUSER=root
> ^^^
> I think, this is in a separate line?
yes bad cut&paste...

> $ checkpc
what's that??? i haven't this command...

> ljt|toshiba|Toshiba PageLaser8:\
>   :lp=/dev/null:\
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> :sd=/var/spool/lpd/toshiba:\
this is enough :) in fact in contradiction with what is stated in the
documentation the above lines do work.

other thing i didn't know seems the fact that i had now to install magifilters
also on my clients. i think i prefer the old scema, where i hadn't to know
what type of printer was on the server.

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[potato] Problems with gdm

[Sven Esbjerg]

Hi

When I start gdm it immediately crashes and restarts again creating and
endless loop. I checked the log files and found the following:
Gdk-ERROR **: an x io error occurred
aborting...

I suppose this is a library error. Has anyone seen this happen
before? Should I report it as a bug?

I have: libgtk 1.2.6-1 and libglib 1.2.6-1
gdm 2.0-0.beta4.5
gdk-imlib1 1.9.8-2
xfree86 3.3.5-2
xlib6g 3.3.5-2 
kernel 2.2.13
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Re: Clipboard-like software?

[Mark Wagnon]

On 12/03/99 08:00AM, J C Lawrence wrote:
> clipboard buffers.  There's also the `cutview` utility which I've
> 

cutview is pretty nice. I think I'm going to try it out for a while.
Just in case you or anyone reading this is interested, the sources can
be found at:

  http://www.users.uswest.net/~hmahon/

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Re: What video card do I use?

[Joe Block]

Rick Dunnivan wrote:
> 
> I have a winmodem and thus have not configured ppp
> yet. How do I go about doing this without being on the
> net?

In short, you don't.  Winmodems only work with windows - get an external
modem and you should be good to go.

jpb
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Re: [off-topic] MS Outlook

[Keith G. Murphy]

Paul McHale wrote:
> 
> Brian,
> 
> > How do you configure MS-Outlook to add the "References" header, so
> > that threads will work properly? Or is this a "feature" of a newer
> > version of outlook that wasn't in earlier versions?
> >
> > While I don't use outlook myself, I find it annoying to receive
> > messages from people who do use it, when it doesn't add the
> > "References" header. Especially when using Gnus, which makes it
> > possible to instantly retrieve the parent article by pressing ^.
> >
> 
> I am not sure there is a way to configure it in Outlook98, which is the
> specific version I have.  The RE: has always worked for me.  I do know there
> were significant changes from Outlook97 to Outlook98.  You suggestion may be
> one of them.
> 
I just checked out Outlook98, by sending and replying to messages to
myself, and apparently it does not provide "References" headers.  It
does do threading of a sort, apparently by the subject line (with RE:). 
Actually, NS Messenger will thread this way too, when no "References"
header is available.  Outlook98, as well as not providing "References",
also ignores "References": I can send a reply from NS Messenger, which
provides the Reference header, with a different subject line, and
Outlook does not recognize it as belonging to the same thread (well, MS
calls it "Conversation").
  
You could make an argument that threading by subject only is OK, since
when subject lines are changed, that often means the writer is wanting
to start a new thread; under Netscape, with no direct access to headers,
he could not do it.  Under Pine, etc., I guess you can.

It is certainly inexcusable for Outlook to ignore References, as well as
not give any option for providing them.  MS is the only company I know
of that wants their stuff to not interoperate with others'.  But NS
should at least give you a "Terminate Thread" option on reply that would
clear out the Reference headers.

Re: hwclock and time

[Laurent PICOULEAU]

On Thu, 02 Dec, 1999 à 07:17:08AM -0500, Sebastian Canagaratna wrote:
> I have been following the postings about hte inaccuracy of time
> brought about by shutting down the machine.
> 
> The suggestions were: rem /etc/adjtime, run hwclock
> and remove hwclock --adjust line from /etc/initd.hwclock.sh
> 
> I have done this, run hwclock to adjust the time and then run
> hwclock --hctosys
> 
> but everytime I shutdown the machine, the next time I reboot
> the time is wrong. I am running slink, and kernel 2.2.10.
> 
Just a suggestion : I think that you've enabled APM in your BIOS and not in
your kernel. If you're using APM, it is important (for the clock) to have an
APM aware kernel...

If my suggestion is wrong, could you let me know it please ?

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Re: hwclock and time

[Keith G. Murphy]

Sebastian Canagaratna wrote:
> 
> I have been following the postings about hte inaccuracy of time
> brought about by shutting down the machine.
> 
> The suggestions were: rem /etc/adjtime, run hwclock
> and remove hwclock --adjust line from /etc/initd.hwclock.sh
> 
> I have done this, run hwclock to adjust the time and then run
> hwclock --hctosys
> 
> but everytime I shutdown the machine, the next time I reboot
> the time is wrong. I am running slink, and kernel 2.2.10.
> 
> I don't remember this problem with ham and earlier kernels.
> What is the answer?
> 
When you did all that did you actually correct the time in your BIOS
when you rebooted your machine?  I think that's the missing piece; there
was nothing you did in the above that actually adjusted the hardware
clock correctly, I think.

Joysticks

[Tom Allard]

I just upgraded my Slink kernel from 2.0.34 to 2.2.10 and wanted to play 
with the joystick drivers.  I've got a M$ Sidewinder (not a 3d pro or 
anything, just a plain analog 2-button, 2-axis joystick that plugs into the 
game module on the soundcard).

I compiled the joystick module and created the js0 device with:

  mknod /dev/js0 c 15 0

But jstest and jscal still can't talk to the joystick:

# jstest /dev/js0
jstest: Operation not supported by device
# jscal /dev/js0
jscal: can't open joystick device: Operation not supported by device

What am I missing?


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Re: What video card do I use?

[Mike Werner]

Rick Dunnivan wrote:
> 
> I have a winmodem and thus have not configured ppp
> yet. How do I go about doing this without being on the
> net?

You could try going to that site and downloading the debs using whatever
connection you are sending email through.  Then, transfer those debs to
someplace that your Debian system can get to and install them via dpkg. 
Granted, that's all messier than a "regular" connection but it should
work.  Might have to run a few cycles of download - install - cuss about
unmet dependancies - download - install - etc  (yes, I *have* been there,
done that - that's how I know it works.  It's also why I'm nearly positive
about the third step.)  It'll be a little tedious, but it'll also get you
a working system eventually.

As others have said, one thing you will most likely want to do at some
point is get a different modem.  If you go to
http://www.o2.net/~gromitkc/winmodem.html
you will find lots of information about modems and their use under Linux -
specifically you will find a very lengthy list of modems and whether they
work with Linux or not.
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SMP

[Kenneth Scharf]

>Hello.
>
>Anyone knows if you can run SMP on a system with one
>Pentium II 233mhz
>and one
>Pentium II 366mhz or if this will mean problem?

AFAIK all dual cpu mb's WILL NOT run with two cpu's of
different speeds, IE: they BOTH must be the same
speed.  If you can force the PII-366 to run at 233mhz
(changing the divider ratio) then this might work. 
Early PII's were not divider ratio locked, all
celerons, PIII's and late PII's ARE, and can ONLY be
run at one speed.  Also I didn't think there WAS a
PII-366 (did you mean 266?).   
A 233 and a 266 both running at 233 might work if your
bios will set this up right.  Abits probably, tyans
probably not.

AFAIK PII's were made in the following speeds:
233,266,300,333 @66 mhz bus
300,350,400,450 @100 mhz bus

PIII's are:
450,500,550,600 @100 mhz bus
533,600,666,733 @133 mhz bus (coppermine)


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