Newbie Non-FAQ(I think) questions
Hi all. I am the epitomy of newbie. I've finally had enough of MS (Multiple Sclorosis)..I'm tired of being paralyzed. But I need help. After plenty of review, and a couple disappointing attempts with RedHat, I've decided to try Debian. Primary reason being the quality / layout of information readily available on the web site. I'm guessing this will roll over to the mailing list as well.. I need to know what are the best (if any) alternatives available on Linux for applications I use on a daily basis.I also need to know a bit more about Debian now that I've decided to give it a go.. APPS and GAMES: - Quake / QuakeWorld -- I'm guessing that the Linux build for these works on the Debian distributionAny pointers? (Debian specific FAQ's) Q3A VisualStudio6.0 Word 6.0 -- I've been told that StarOffice is pretty good? (Pros / Cons please...) Access Excel Photoshop 5.0 LightWave5.5 3DSMax Director 6.0 Palm Desktop RioShell 3.0 Adaptec EZ CD4.0 HARDWARE: - Abit BP6 Dual Celery 450 (OC's to 504 ) 128 PC 100 Seagate (Model?) 4.5GB UDMA33 Drive 3Com 3C905B Diamond v770 Ultra Iomega Zip 100 Iomega Jaz 2GB I plan on running a dual boot at first, with all of my WinNT stuff staying where it is..Any tips would be much appreciated I'll be posting specific questions once I get started ( CDs are on the way still from CheapBytes ) Thanks, -- Erich
(very) remote install
I've been asked to install Debian on a server that resides several thousand miles from where I am (I am in Philadelphia, the server is in Korea). Is it possible for me to replace the current RH installation with Debian from my present location? Where are docs pertaining to this? The owner of the machine (call him john) wants to avoid the reboot, and does not know (or trust) anyone at the remote location. I BELIEVE I could do this by installing and configuring a (minimal) base system complete with his root password here, and then gzipping it, telnet to the remote host as root, chroot to a ramdisk, reformat /dev/hda, install the gzipped and ready base system (configured for remote root access and RARP), start a script that will reboot the machine after I have logged off, then john can telnet to his server, log in as root, change root's password and run dselect to install the rest of his system. John does not think this will work he should know, he's had 20+ years working with Unix and Ive only two years on Linux. But he has not suggested any other method. What am I missing? What docs can help me with this? has anyone else on this list done something similar? Is there a HOWTO for this? Should there be? --Paul Wright-- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Netmeeting and ipfw
Hi, In some news archive I found your message about ipfw and netmeeting (from may 1998!). Did you get it working? For me, I can receive audio and video, but can't send any. Probably netmeeting is setting up peerconnections, sending audio and video. How about ICQ? I sometimes am not able to setup a chat-connection. Probably the same thing: the other party trying to set up a connection top me. Are proxies for ICQ and netmeetring available? If you have any suggestions please reply. Thanx, Perjan.
Re: SECOND TRY: Re: Group "adm"?
On Thu, Oct 14, 1999 at 12:25:35PM -0400, Ed Cogburn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ed Cogburn wrote: > > > > I've noticed several files in my normal user (ed) home dir, which, > > instead of "ed" as group owner, are given the group of "adm". These > > files are all types, a file created by Netscape while downloading, a > > sub-dir I created, and a config file (.xscreensaver) created by another > > process, as examples. The user "ed", isn't allowed to change this, I > > have to use chown as root to fix things. Is this normal? Why do they > > get the group of "adm"? > > This is just a guess, and I don't know how it could have happened, but your home directory might belong to group adm. My homedir is SGID, so that all files are owned by the same group as it. If yours is set up the same way, and I imagine it is, this might be it. -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. <*> [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Man is a rope, tied between beast and overman--a rope over an abyss. A dangerous across, a dangerous on-the-way, a dangerous looking-back, a dangerous shuddering and stopping." --Friedrich Nietzsche pgpkFynI3NmAv.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: (very) remote install
Once you've reformatted /dev/hda, how do you transfer and unzip the base system? paul wrote: > > I've been asked to install Debian on a server that resides several > thousand miles from where I am (I am in Philadelphia, the server is in > Korea). Is it possible for me to replace the current RH installation with > Debian from my present location? Where are docs pertaining to this? > The owner of the machine (call him john) wants to avoid the reboot, and > does not know (or trust) anyone at the remote location. I BELIEVE I could > do this by installing and configuring a (minimal) base system complete > with his root password here, and then gzipping it, telnet to the remote > host as root, chroot to a ramdisk, reformat /dev/hda, install the gzipped > and ready base system (configured for remote root access and RARP), start > a script that will reboot the machine after I have logged off, then > john can telnet to his server, log in as root, change root's password and > run dselect to install the rest of his system. > John does not think this will work he should know, he's had 20+ > years working with Unix and Ive only two years on Linux. But he has not > suggested any other method. > What am I missing? What docs can help me with this? has anyone > else on this list done something similar? Is there a HOWTO for this? > Should there be? > --Paul Wright-- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
unformat linux
HI Could you tell me if is it possible to recover a NT disk formated with linux? I had a 6Gb disk with 3 partitions (2GB for NT, 2 Gb for win95 and 2Gb free) and i tried to install the RedHat Linux on the free disk space. I choose the linux server custom instalation and it formated all the disk with linux file system. Is it possible to recover those NT and win95 files on the first 4GB ? Thanks! e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
linux unformat
HI Could you tell me if is it possible to recover a NT disk formated with linux? I had a 6Gb disk with 3 partitions (2GB for NT, 2 Gb for win95 and 2Gb free) and i tried to install the RedHat Linux on the free disk space. I choose the linux server custom instalation and it formated all the disk with linux file system. Is it possible to recover those NT and win95 files on the first 4GB ? Thanks! e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Alternative to fetchmail?
Hi all: Fetchmail has been acting up on me. I've been using it for over a year to fetch email from my ISP via pop3, running it as a daemon. On two occasions it would just die off for now apparent reason, and need to be restarted. But what's worth, on three occasions it would refuse to retrieve a certain message (would crash while trying to do so; no output with --debug option). In such cases, I had to get the messages with mutt or smth similar, and then fetchail would agree to function again. Enough venting, though. What are alternatives to fetchmail to retrieve email into local spool? Thanks! -- Arcady Genkin http://wgaf.dyndns.org "You should seek your enemy, you should wage your war -- a war for your opinions. And if your opinion is defeated, your honesty should still cry triumph over that!" (F. Nietzsche)
dpkg-repack 1.0 bug?
dpkg-repack won't work and complains about bad permissions, but I don't see bad permissions. Example: drwxr-xr-x 85 root root 7168 Oct 15 01:02 /etc drwxr-xr-x 17 root root 1024 Aug 25 14:00 /usr drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 1024 Dec 14 1998 /usr/lib/wine But the errors are: lilypad:/home/pollywog#dpkg-repack wine -- Creating control files -- Copying files dpkg-repack: Bad perms on directory: /. dpkg-repack: Bad perms on directory: /etc dpkg-repack: Bad perms on directory: /usr dpkg-repack: Bad perms on directory: /usr/X11R6 dpkg-repack: Bad perms on directory: /usr/X11R6/bin dpkg-repack: Bad perms on directory: /usr/X11R6/man dpkg-repack: Bad perms on directory: /usr/X11R6/man/man1 dpkg-repack: Bad perms on directory: /usr/X11R6/lib dpkg-repack: Bad perms on directory: /usr/lib dpkg-repack: Bad perms on directory: /usr/lib/wine dpkg-repack: Bad perms on directory: /usr/sbin dpkg-repack: Bad perms on directory: /usr/bin dpkg-repack: Bad perms on directory: /usr/info dpkg-repack: Bad perms on directory: /usr/man dpkg-repack: Bad perms on directory: /usr/man/man1 dpkg-repack: Bad perms on directory: /usr/doc dpkg-repack: Bad perms on directory: /usr/doc/wine -- Building package dpkg-deb: building package `wine' in `./wine_0.0.981018-1.1_i386.deb'. dpkg-deb: control directory has bad permissions 2755 (must be >=0755 and <=0775) dpkg-repack: Error running: dpkg --build ./dpkg-repack-31632 . -- Cleaning up dpkg-repack: Errors were encountered in processing. dpkg-repack: The package may not unpack correctly. Is this a bug? It certainly is not a feature. -- Andrew - GnuPG Public KeyID: 0x48109681 *we all live downstream*
Re: unformat linux
Luis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Could you tell me if is it possible to recover a NT disk formated with > linux? > I had a 6Gb disk with 3 partitions (2GB for NT, 2 Gb for win95 and 2Gb > free) > and i tried to install the RedHat Linux on the free disk space. > I choose the linux server custom instalation and it formated all the disk > with linux file system. Is it possible to recover those NT and win95 files > on the first 4GB ? I think that you lost your data. The partitions were not only written to disk, but initialized too. -- Arcady Genkin http://wgaf.dyndns.org "You should seek your enemy, you should wage your war -- a war for your opinions. And if your opinion is defeated, your honesty should still cry triumph over that!" (F. Nietzsche)
Re: Newbie Non-FAQ(I think) questions
On Thu, Oct 14, 1999 at 05:01:19PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > APPS and GAMES: > - > Quake / QuakeWorld -- I'm guessing that the Linux build for these works on > the Debian distributionAny pointers? (Debian specific FAQ's) Quake works perfectly on Debian. There are Debian packages that will make installing it easier. XQF makes it easy to browse QuakeWorld. > Word 6.0 -- I've been told that StarOffice is pretty good? (Pros / > Cons please...) I use AbiWord for a lot of things, but it's far from complete, so I also have StarOffice installed. > Access StarOffice has database software. > Excel Gnumeric. I've never had to turn to its StarOffice equivalent. It also understands more Excel files than StarOffice. > Photoshop 5.0 Gimp. > RioShell 3.0 I'm guessing that this communicates with a Diamond Rio. freshmeat.net lists quite a few apps for this. > Adaptec EZ CD4.0 Gnome-Toaster. > > HARDWARE: > - > Abit BP6 > Dual Celery 450 (OC's to 504 ) > 128 PC 100 > Seagate (Model?) 4.5GB UDMA33 Drive > 3Com 3C905B > Diamond v770 Ultra > Iomega Zip 100 > Iomega Jaz 2GB > I have a friend with an Abit motherboard with a celeron, and it works great. I can personally vouch for the network card. -- Eric Gillespie, Jr. <*> [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Man is a rope, tied between beast and overman--a rope over an abyss. A dangerous across, a dangerous on-the-way, a dangerous looking-back, a dangerous shuddering and stopping." --Friedrich Nietzsche pgpx2GQH5b9rV.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: linux unformat
On Fri, 15 Oct 1999, Luis wrote: > HI [snip] You've mailed this message four times now. Please stop it. If anyone has ideas, they'll say something. --Ian Ehrenwald
Re: (very) remote install
On Thu, 14 Oct 1999, paul wrote: > Korea). Is it possible for me to replace the current RH installation with > Debian from my present location? Where are docs pertaining to this? > The owner of the machine (call him john) wants to avoid the reboot, and > does not know (or trust) anyone at the remote location. I BELIEVE I could You can't do it without rebooting. You need to reboot to load the new Debian kernel, the Debian C libraries, etc. That said, you can certainly do it remotely. What you need to do is this. First, hope he's laid out his partitions in a reasonable manner, with a small root partition, or that he has gobs and gobs of unallocated disk space. Get everything you need assembled on that root partition - basically that means tar (which should already be there) and ftp. I don't think ftp has any other dependencies other than the standard libraries. If he has only got one partition, and no other filesystems: You may be hosed. If you're lucky you can fit a (very) minimal Debian installation into whatever he's using for swap. You might end up having to use one of the microlinux distributions intended for embedded systems if his swap is really tight. If he doesn't have any extra disk space, but does have reasonable partitions: You'll also need to set it up so it will accept telnet connections. That means you'll have to set up the startup scripts to start in.telnetd in single user mode and regular multiuser mode - probably on a nonstandard port so it doesn't conflict with inetd and the regular telnet service while you're testing it. in.telnetd, of course, will also have to be on the / partition. Now reboot, and make sure your new in.telnetd works, and that it is set so that, in case your connection dies, your local power fails, you accidentally log out or something, that the machine isn't left alone. You'll probably need some sort of script to loop and keep it alive because I think it always dies when its connection ends. Now set lilo on the remote system to start up in single user mode. Double check that your telnetd script is run from single user mode. Now cross your fingers, and reboot. You should now be able to telnet into single user mode, which will have an unused /usr partition, and so on. You can now use the /usr partition to host your Debian root partition. If he has extra disk space, or lots of swap that you can steal: Skip all that garbage about hacking redhat to allow you to get at /usr to recycle it. Just use some of this extra space to host your Debian root. > do this by installing and configuring a (minimal) base system complete > with his root password here, and then gzipping it, telnet to the remote > host as root, chroot to a ramdisk, reformat /dev/hda, install the gzipped Unfortunately, chroot does not excuse you from the obligations of the "real" root filesystem. You really can't reformat an active partition and expect it to work. Most likely your kernel will panic. Other than that, the plan is fairly sound. Make a minimal Debian system, put it in some free space *on its own partition*, set lilo to boot that new kernel, and reboot. You don't really need to chroot anywhere during the process. Whether to gzip is an interesting case. Fun with named pipes will possibly allow you to untar/zip on the fly. You might, however, be better off using something like ncftp which can make proper copies of complex directory structures, sucking up the extra download time in exchange for simplicity. Of course, if you have lots of space, you can have your cake and eat it too - load the gzipped tarfile containing Debian somewhere on the system, then unzip it into the rest of the space. > and ready base system (configured for remote root access and RARP), start Why do you need RARP? > a script that will reboot the machine after I have logged off, then ... or just reboot it yourself? > John does not think this will work he should know, he's had 20+ > years working with Unix and Ive only two years on Linux. But he has not > suggested any other method. Well, you'd be hard pressed to make this work with any other Unix flavor, save perhaps FreeBSD. That said, you'll be well pressed to make it work with Linux. There is certainly a possibility that something will go wrong while the system is in an undefined state, or you will screw something up and when you try to reboot it, it dies somewhere along the line, and the whole thing will die. It could certainly happen, though it doesn't have to. > else on this list done something similar? Is there a HOWTO for this? > Should there be? Gads! Should this ever have to happen? If you record what happens to you and what you do, I'm sure that it will find its way into the collective consciousness somehow. Now. Are you sure you don't just want to keep using Red Hat? :}
Re: unformat linux
On Fri, 15 Oct 1999, Luis wrote: > HI Could you tell me if is it possible to recover a NT disk formated > with linux? I had a 6Gb disk with 3 partitions (2GB for NT, 2 Gb for > win95 and 2Gb free) and i tried to install the RedHat Linux on the > free disk space. I choose the linux server custom instalation and it > formated all the disk with linux file system. Is it possible to > recover those NT and win95 files on the first 4GB ? No. :} If you just change the partition table back to the way it was, then maybe Scandisk will figure things out and recover some of your data. Be sure to use Linux fdisk for this, and not MS fdisk; the MS version will scramble things irrevocably. Even so, once the Linux filesystem has been written on the disk, much of what was there before will have been overwritten - especially if software was installed there. It is not likely that much data can be salvaged.
Re: Newbie Non-FAQ(I think) questions
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hi all. I am the epitomy of newbie. > > I've finally had enough of MS (Multiple Sclorosis)..I'm tired of being > paralyzed. But I need help. > > After plenty of review, and a couple disappointing attempts with RedHat, > I've decided to try > Debian. Primary reason being the quality / layout of information readily > available on the web site. > I'm guessing this will roll over to the mailing list as well.. > > I need to know what are the best (if any) alternatives available on Linux > for applications I use > on a daily basis.I also need to know a bit more about Debian now that > I've decided to give it > a go.. > > APPS and GAMES: > - > Quake / QuakeWorld -- I'm guessing that the Linux build for these works on > the Debian distributionAny pointers? (Debian specific FAQ's) > Q3A Quake 1/2 works fine but you need hardware acceleration for Q3A. The viper is a tnt2 chipset correct? I assume that hardware accel for that will come fairly soon. > VisualStudio6.0 Many different development tools for linux exist. Gcc, G++, perl, java - I think there is basic and I know there is fortran, and pascal. > Word 6.0 -- I've been told that StarOffice is pretty good? (Pros / > Cons please...) StarOffice works great with the slight problem that is big and slow but on you machine I doubt you would notice. Pros - free. Cons - a little slow. > Access There is a whole slouh of sql's for databases. > Excel Gnumeric is rumored to be a very good spreadsheet program. > Photoshop 5.0 The GIMP is arguable the most famous linux app with good reason. Almost anything photoshop can do, the gimp can do. > LightWave5.5 > 3DSMax I don't have experience with these programs. > Director 6.0 Well, I only wish. No macromedia software for linux.<-Except for the brand new flash plugin. With the right scripting in cgi, php, or perl I have seen some pretty spectaular sites though. > Palm Desktop More then likely software for this has been written as there is an attempt to port linux to it. > RioShell 3.0 I know there is software that allows linking to the rio but I don't have experience with it. > Adaptec EZ CD4.0 Xcdroast comes to mind; there are others. > > HARDWARE: > - > Abit BP6 > Dual Celery 450 (OC's to 504 ) > 128 PC 100 > Seagate (Model?) 4.5GB UDMA33 Drive > 3Com 3C905B No problem on anything above. > Diamond v770 Ultra Someone with a tnt2 set would have to answer but I think this has an X server but I could be wrong. > Iomega Zip 100 > Iomega Jaz 2GB You don't say what kind of zip - all but usb are supported and usb is coming. I believe the Jaz is supported but again - I don't have one. > I plan on running a dual boot at first, with all of my WinNT stuff staying > where it is..Any tips would be > much appreciated The Nt boot loader is a pain - you can't use lilo. There is a howto for this though. I take you have partitioning all done as fips can split and NTFS partition as of yet. > I'll be posting specific questions once I get started ( CDs are on the way > still from CheapBytes ) Well, I take it you got slink correct? This could be a problem if you need to support all of your fairly new hardware. A 2.2 kernel has the SMP advantage as well. In any event, get your system up and you can apt-get up to potato if need be. Good Luck, Justin -- Debian potato w/2.2.12 #linux op (jus10) on dal.net > Thanks, > > -- Erich
Need SCSI Tape Help
Hi all! I'm using slink with an SMP kernel (2.0.36) on a dual Pentium Pro 200 with 256M RAM. The HD setup is a pair of 4 GB Seagate Barracudas on an Adaptec 2940UW along with an SCSI CDROM and a Tandberg 4222 tape drive. I've got a really sweet server here except that I just noticed there are no /dev/st* for the tape drive. Anyone know at what point during the installation these get created? I've got another machine here with an SCSI tape with lots of /dev/st*. I'd sure hate to mknod 'em all by hand on the new beast. Thanks
Re: dpkg-repack 1.0 bug?
On Fri, Oct 15, 1999 at 01:11:52AM -, Pollywog wrote: > dpkg-repack: Errors were encountered in processing. > dpkg-repack: The package may not unpack correctly. > > Is this a bug? It certainly is not a feature. I assume you are doing this in your home directory. It's caused by the directories it's creating retaining the s+g bit from your homedir. I suggest you use dpkg-repack in /tmp. Ben
Re: Mutt and From: line in mail
There must be something I misunderstand, then. I put the following into .muttrc: my_hdr From: Mark Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> So that my real name would show up as well as my address. If you look at the headers in this message, my real name is gone. This has annoyed me for a while now. -- Mark Zimmerman On Thu, Oct 14, 1999 at 07:38:06PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > > I can't find anything in my muttrc that would account for this. I also > > > somehow doubt that qmail is rewriting a MUA-generated line (but I could > > > be wrong). > > It definitely should not. I use mutt and qmail, and my From: line > (generated by my_hdr in ~/.muttrc) is left intact. > > > If you set the MAILUSER and MAILHOST environment variables, qmail rewrites > > the from line as [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Only in the absence of an MUA-supplied header line. From qmail-header(5): > > > SENDER ADDRESSES >qmail-inject looks for sender address lists in the follow >ing fields: Sender, From, Reply-To, Return-Path, Return- >Receipt-To, Errors-To, Resent-Sender, Resent-From, Resent- >Reply-To. > >If there is no From field, qmail-inject adds a new From >field with the name of the user invoking qmail-inject. > > > Also, I prefer the QMAIL* variables: > > >The user name in the From header field is set by >QMAILUSER, MAILUSER, USER, or LOGNAME, whichever comes >first. > >The host name is normally set by the defaulthost control >but can be overridden with QMAILHOST or MAILHOST. > > > > This is usually a good thing for > > machines on dial-up connections so that it looks like your mail came from > > your account at your ISP. > > That's exactly what I use it for. :-) > > Also note that you can set the *envelope* sender with environment > variables, so that bounce messages will go to your ISP mailbox: > > >The default envelope sender address is the same as the >default From address, but it can be overridden with QMAIL >SUSER and QMAILSHOST. It may also be modified by the r >and m letters described below. Bounces will be sent to >this address. > > > I cannot emphasize this strongly enough. If you have to set your From: > header for any reason, you should make the envelope sender match. > > -- > Greg Wooledge| Distributed.NET http://www.distributed.net/ > [EMAIL PROTECTED] | because a CPU is a terrible thing to waste. > http://www.kellnet.com/wooledge/ |
Re: http://www.debian.org/contact
Greg Wooledge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > Is there some secret mode in console-apt that makes it tell you what > > > > *other* packages it's going to upgrade or remove > > > > ...unfortunately console-apt simply isn't a sufficient replacement > > for dselect without this feature (in some form or another; maybe it > > could be less whizzy than dselect's, but it's gotta be there). > > This works: > > jekyll# apt-get -s install ae > Reading Package Lists... Done > Building Dependency Tree... Done > The following extra packages will be installed: > slang1=20 > 2 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 190 not upgraded. > Inst ae [] > Inst slang1 > Conf slang1 > Conf ae It doesn't have to be *exactly* like dselect, but it certainly has to be more like dselect than that! Cheers, -Miles -- Love is a snowmobile racing across the tundra. Suddenly it flips over, pinning you underneath. At night the ice weasels come. --Nietzsche
Re: installing on a compaq deskpro
Do you install on scsi? If not, can't you turn the scsi off in bios? I use AHA-2940 on several servers and never had any problems, neither with 2.0 2.2 nor 2.3 kernels. If it helps any: (scsi0) found at PCI 17/0 (scsi0) Wide Channel, SCSI ID=7, 16/255 SCBs On Thu, Oct 14, 1999 at 10:46:13PM -0400, Richard Earley wrote: > > I am having a problem installing on a compaq deskpro 6000. It uses a > AHA-2940 SCSI > controller and resets durring initial install of the kernel. The option to > turn off the probe "aic7xxx=noprobe" is not helping. Is there any new > updates (boot floppy images) which > can get arroung this problem? (Yes this means I am stupid/crazy/happy > enough to be > a tester of kernels) > > > Rich Earley > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- Marcin Kurc Indiana Institute of Technology System Administrator http://me.indtech.edu http://www.indtech.edu
[PHILADELPHIA] PADS: Upgrading to Debian's ``unstable'' release
The Philadelphia Area Debian Society (PADS) (http://www.CJFearnley.com/pads/) presents Upgrading to Debian's ``unstable'' release When: Wednesday 20 October 1999, 8:00 PM - 9:30 PM Speaker: Chris Fearnley, Senior Vice President Technology, LinuxForce Inc. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Where: IQ Group, 6th floor (through the door with a big Q on it) 325 Chestnut Street Philadelphia, PA Abstract We will examine the rewards and dangers of using ``Potato'', the current ``unstable'' Debian release. Debian developers must use the unstable release to prepare the next stable release for distribution. The discussion will aim to help users and developers who want to test and use this pre-release version of Debian. Social Dinner Attendees are invited to gather for dinner prior to the meeting at 6:30 PM at The Mexican Post, 104 Chestnut Street, Philadelphia, PA. Please RSVP so we can get an appropriate sized table. Keysigning: PADS meetings include a GPG keysiging (see the web page for details). Web Page: http://www.CJFearnley.com/pads/ -- Christopher J. Fearnley | Linux/Internet/Web Consulting [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Design Science Revolutionary http://www.CJFearnley.com| Explorer in Universe "Dare to be Naïve" -- Bucky Fuller
install, I'm in over my head
Hi. I am doing a floppy install of debian. I am at the point of installing the driver modules but am very confused. I have a 486sx computer with a 408mb hard drive and 16megs. of ram. I have made the first partition swap with 32 megs and the rest a boot primary linux partition. Anyway at the driver installation page I went to Block disks and disk like devices. I installed, though I don't know what they do: Linear, paride, raid0, raid1, raid5. I could not install one module though it really sounds important: xdxt hard disk controller I get a message like: Installation failed /lib/modules/2.0.36/blocked/xd.0: init_module: device or resource busy Also in the Device drivers for cd-rom drives I see two that would seem to fit my setup. I have a Mitsumi cd-rom manufactured in September 1993. I see mitsumi cd-rom and mitsumi cd-rom with extended features. When I try to install these I get an error message like: /lib/modules/2.0.36//cdrom/mcd.0 : init_module: device or resource busy eval: 1: syntax error : eof in backquote substitution script: cd /dev && rm -f cdrom && ln -s cdrom eval: 1: syntax error: eof in backquote substitution Could anyone give me some advice? Should I try some of the other modules like aztcd, cdrom, optcd, cm206 ? Do I need to enter something in the argument section on any of the above? Could that be why the installation failled? I am sorry to be such a bother. It's probably hard to understand why someone with my lack of understanding would try to install. This is just for my home use. If I cannot complete the install tonight do my partitions stay intact? I am a man but I am nearly having tears of frustration, for as I was typing this out a few minutes ago with a Win98 sitting nearby I suffered a fatal exception and lost all the detailed questions that I am asking here just before sending it. Agh Jeff
Re: install, I'm in over my head
> Linear, paride, raid0, raid1, raid5. You probably don't need any of them. paride is for parallel port IDE devices. All the RAID ones are for Redundant Array of Inexpensive Disks. I'm not sure what linear is for. > I could not install one module though it really sounds important: > xd xt hard disk controller I don't think you need that either unless you have a REALLY anchient machine. The normal IDE drivers should suffice. > fit my setup. I have a Mitsumi cd-rom manufactured in September 1993. I see [snip] Dunno what to suggest here. I have an all SCSI system and the systems I work on are all SCSI also so I don't usually deal with that stuff. > for my home use. If I cannot complete the install tonight do my partitions > stay intact? I am a man but I am nearly having tears of frustration, for as The partitions aren't going anywhere if you turn the computer off. But I'd suggest just leaving it on until you get some answers. Just turn the monitor off. > I was typing this out a few minutes ago with a Win98 sitting nearby I > suffered a fatal exception and lost all the detailed questions that I am > asking here just before sending it. Agh Ugh. Sorry man. The quicker we get you running Linux, the quicker the road to recovery :) --Ian Ehrenwald
RE: 24-bit graphics woes
I think the 24 bit colour problem is from one of the libraries Netscape 4.6 (and WP 8) was compiled with. Do a search in the mail archive and and in Deja for more info. It seems to be a problem only at 24 bit. The other problem I've never seen before, maybe another netscape bug, I'm currently running at 16 bit myself. Bill Stuart Ballard wrote: > Bryan Allen wrote: > > > > You might want to check out xfree86.org, they've got spiffy infos on > the > > supported cards. and yeah.. the 24 bit ugly netscape thing is > netscape > > being ghetto and ugly in 24 bit. try jumping it up to 32bit as soon > as you > > can. x is generally a lot prettier when it's got the color depth > behind > > it. :) > > Woohoo! It never occurred to me that 24bit might be simply > worse-behaved > than 8, 16 and 32 bits. My card is accelerated in all modes except > 24... > typical huh? > > Switching to 32bit solved the speed issue, but the graphics seemed to > get corrupted, giving an interesting "color bleeding"-like effect. > Usually the left-hand side of any object didn't seem to get drawn > correctly, or sometimes at all, leaving holes in the sides of my > windows, and strange graphical artifacts on my menus. If anyone has > any > ideas about *that*, I'd be *really* grateful (background: Trident > ProVidia9685 graphics card, SVGA xserver, current potato) > > For now I'm in 16 bit and working fine (and fast) - thanks bryan :) > > Stuart. > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] > < /dev/null
Postscript Merging & Dial-in PPP Access
I'm trying to get a couple of things running for a client here. I need the system to be able to do two things :- 1) Merge two postcript files. I'm trying to run a small script that converts the text output from another program into Postscript, and then merge that file with a previously createed postscript file. Here's the script segment that does these things :- --- Begin Script Segment -- for $source.* do cat "$file" | enscript -p/tmp/outfile.ps -R -B cat /u/psback.ps /tmp/outfile.ps | lpr -PHPLaser done End Script Segment --- The HP Laser is a fully postscript capable printer, I can print both files seperately, and the files are able to merge print on a SCO box, but under linux the files seem to not want to merge. psback.ps is a background image that is needed "behind" every page printed. source.* is a collection of single pages (organised through another section of the script, quite simple really). Comments about this will be greatly appreciated. All help useful. 2) Dial-in PPP Access. Before people start screaming at me to read the manuals, I suggest they also look in the documentation. The current documentation is not detailed enough for me to get the system to work. I can setup shell access using mgetty, but as soon as I try and setup a pppd to run, it kills the connection complaining about the lock files. Any help here needed! How-to files, please paste into your reply all relevant sections, as the online HOWTO's, and the local howto's onsite are not up to the task. BTW - I'm not on the mailing list (I don't have time to sort through heaps of mail everyday). Please post all replies direct to me. Regards, Peter Ludwig __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com
Re: Word to the wise Re: is your WINE broken too?
Pollywog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 14-Oct-99 David Coe wrote: > > Any time you're going to upgrade a wine package (or any other package > > that's either alpha status (like wine) or extremely critical to the > > continued operation of your system), I recommend you use dpkg-repack > > first,, to save a copy of the currently-installed version. > > I was wondering if I could do something like that, but I was not familiar with > that dpkg option. Thanks for the info. I will record it for future use. I should have said, ``dpkg-repack'' is a separate package, not a dpkg option.
Re: Proxy Server Problems (Possible Solution)
Hello, a while ago, I wrote about a problem I was having with a proxy server setup. I had two networks 192.168.1.0 and 192.168.2.0 joined by a router. The proxy server was 192.168.1.1 and though I could ping, telnet on both networks to the other, the proxy server would only work on the 1.0 network. It turns out that for a SOCKS 4 client to work it must be able to resolve DNS names, the machines on the 1.0 network could get to the DNS servers through a gateway to the net. But the machines on the 2.0 network could not get to the DNS server. My solution was to install a caching DNS server on the network and point all machines to it. Now both networks can use the proxy server with no problem. I hope this helps someone with a similar problem. Bill Original Letter Hello again, I have a problem. I have two networks 192.168.1.0 and 192.168.2.0, they have a router joining them. What I want to do is put a proxy server on one network (192.168.1.0) and have machines on both networks have access to the Internet. Can anyone tell me which proxy server to use. I've tried using SOCKS and it lets the machines on the 192.168.1.0 network communicate with the internet, but machines on the other network do not get out. I get messages like: Sep 30 14:09:26 debian sockd[5075]: Error in socks_GetDst: No such file or directory; from host 192.168.2.2 Sep 30 14:10:07 debian sockd[5076]: connected -- Connect from SSL(unknown)@192.168.2.2 to debian.bermudez (1080) Sep 30 14:10:07 debian sockd[5077]: error -- wrong version (0x47) from host debian.bermudez. Sep 30 14:10:07 debian sockd[5076]: terminated -- Connect from SSL(unknown)@192.168.2.2 to debian.bermudez (1080). Sep 30 14:10:07 debian sockd[5076]: 414 bytes from 192.168.2.2, 0 bytes from debian.bermudez However I can ping and telnet from network to the other. The 192.168.1.0 network can get mail and all other net services I need but nada from the 192.168.2.0 network. Socks route file - router are at x.x.x.13 # routes for sockd # # IP of interface destination netmask for destination # eg: 10.0.0.254 10.0.0.28 255.255.255.255 #new lines 192.168.1.1 192.168.2.13 255.255.255.255 192.168.1.13 192.168.2.13 255.255.255.0 #original line added first 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 Socks conf file # Replace 'my.domain' below with your own domain name before using. # Make sure you retain the leading period. #deny ALL 0.0.0.0 .my.domain 0.0.0.0 #permit my.domain 0.0.0.0 ALL 0.0.0.0 permit ?=n 192.168.0.0 255.255.0.0 ALL 0.0.0.0 Thanks all Bill ps I think that route file looks fishy
Re: dpkg-repack 1.0 bug?
Ben Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, Oct 15, 1999 at 01:11:52AM -, Pollywog wrote: > > dpkg-repack: Errors were encountered in processing. > > dpkg-repack: The package may not unpack correctly. > > > > Is this a bug? It certainly is not a feature. > I assume you are doing this in your home directory. It's caused by > the directories it's creating retaining the s+g bit from your homedir. > I suggest you use dpkg-repack in /tmp. (But don't leave them there after they've been built, because /tmp normally gets cleaned when you reboot.)
running apt from an at command
I ran 'apt-get -d upgrade' from an 'at' command and just figured out why this did not work. When it is run, apt-get asks if I really want to download, and since there is nobody at the keyboard to enter "Y", the command does not execute. Is there a way to enter the "Y" or to have the command execute without being asked to confirm? thanks -- Andrew - GnuPG Public KeyID: 0x48109681 *we all live downstream*
ftp login banner
Is there something like issue.net for the ftp service I want to disable these message: (Version 6.2/OpenBSD/Linux-0.10) ready. Another posibility is to change to another ftp packagewhich one is the best?
Re: running apt from an at command
Run it whi -y apt-get will assume yes to all prompts and will and non-interactively On Fri, 15 Oct 1999, Pollywog wrote: > I ran 'apt-get -d upgrade' from an 'at' command and just figured out why this > did not work. When it is run, apt-get asks if I really want to download, and > since there is nobody at the keyboard to enter "Y", the command does not > execute. Is there a way to enter the "Y" or to have the command execute > without being asked to confirm? > > thanks > > -- > Andrew > > - > GnuPG Public KeyID: 0x48109681 > *we all live downstream* > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null >
Re: (no subject)
On Thu, Oct 14, 1999 at 11:43:11PM +0200, Leo Mignemi wrote: > unsubscribe > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null Somebody does this about once a day. Is it possible to change the instruction footer to something less cryptic? Rob -- It's later than you think.
Re: running apt from an at command
Run it with -y apt-get will assume "yes"to all prompts and will run non-interactively. sorry for the other message!!! On Fri, 15 Oct 1999, Pollywog wrote: > I ran 'apt-get -d upgrade' from an 'at' command and just figured out why this > did not work. When it is run, apt-get asks if I really want to download, and > since there is nobody at the keyboard to enter "Y", the command does not > execute. Is there a way to enter the "Y" or to have the command execute > without being asked to confirm? > > thanks > > -- > Andrew > > - > GnuPG Public KeyID: 0x48109681 > *we all live downstream* > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null >
Re: Newbie Non-FAQ(I think) questions
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: .. > I need to know what are the best (if any) alternatives available on Linux > for applications I use > on a daily basis.I also need to know a bit more about Debian now that > I've decided to give it > a go.. Netscape. Aren't you interested in browsing something on the web? Oki
Re: (very) remote install
William T Wilson wrote: ... > Other than that, the plan is fairly sound. Make a minimal Debian system, > put it in some free space *on its own partition*, set lilo to boot that > new kernel, and reboot. You don't really need to chroot anywhere during > the process. ... This sounds good to me. I think adding a new harddisk would be nice; he could just install the Debian on the new drive and set lilo up. Oki
Sun floppy boot
Hi, I tried to boot my Sun Classic off of a floppy yesterday, but it didn't work. I don't know how to change the boot media in the prom monitor. I have tried ">boot floppy", ">setenv boot-disk=floppy" and "go". I have surfed the web too, trying to find a document on prom monitor. But I haven't found anything related to the boot media. How does the prom monitor see the floppy device? Is it as "floppy", "/dev/fd0"? Or anything else? Any pointers please... Thanks in advance, Oki
printing special characters
Hello, where may I look for the reason that my Canon BJC 210 suddenly is unable to print special characters like ñ, ö, ç, etc? I´ve been looking in the Printing-HowTos, the LPRng - Documentation and the aps / magicfilter documentation. But I didn't find anything that could help me to find out why I can't print this stuff from one moment to another. Don't know if it's releated, but the last thing I did before the printer stopped printing these characters was install StarOffice 5.1. Any hint about where to look would be apreciated. Lorenz
2.0.38 make install - unable to find lilo footprint
When I make "install" for the kernel 2.0.38 - which I didn't get from a .deb, I just downloaded from Finland - when it comes to the part where every other kernel says "shall I run lilo?" this one says it can't find a lilo footprint. What is it looking for? Andrew -- http://counter.li.org/cgi-bin/runscript/display-person.cgi?user=45690
Re: ftp login banner
On Fri, Oct 15, 1999 at 12:48:11AM -0600, Luis Gustavo Madrigal Salazar wrote: > Is there something like issue.net for the ftp service > I want to disable these message: (Version 6.2/OpenBSD/Linux-0.10) ready. >From the manual page: If the file /etc/ftpwelcome exists, ftpd prints it before issuing the ``ready'' message. Is this what you are looking for? > Another posibility is to change to another ftp packagewhich one is the > best? > > Joop -- Joop Stakenborg PA4TU, ex-PA3ABA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Linux Amateur Radio Software Database http://radio.linux.org.au
Re: ftp login banner
/etc/ftpwelcome works but I still get the FTP server (Version 6.2/OpenBSD/Linux-0.10) message...I want to disable that message!! On Fri, 15 Oct 1999, Joop Stakenborg wrote: > On Fri, Oct 15, 1999 at 12:48:11AM -0600, Luis Gustavo Madrigal Salazar wrote: > > Is there something like issue.net for the ftp service > > I want to disable these message: (Version 6.2/OpenBSD/Linux-0.10) ready. > > >From the manual page: > > If the file /etc/ftpwelcome exists, ftpd prints it before issuing the > ``ready'' message. > > Is this what you are looking for? > > > Another posibility is to change to another ftp packagewhich one is the > > best? > > > > > > Joop > > -- > > Joop Stakenborg PA4TU, ex-PA3ABA > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Linux Amateur Radio Software Database > http://radio.linux.org.au > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null >
I screwed up w/ shadow passwords
Hello, I have on old 486 on which I installed debian (slink) (any excuse), but forgot my root password. So I went in and edited /etc/passwords, where there were 'x's fro the password fields. Then I changed the root password after deleting the 'x' in root's /etc/passwords entry. But now, the password only works under xdm login. Under console login, _no_ password is required. How do I fix this? Martin __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Very basic question
Hi all, I just put Slink on a new machine and am having problems adding users. I want to add a user so that they /home/username as their home directory and so that they can receive mail. What is the command to set up a normal user? Is it useradd -m username? This doesn't seem to set ip a mail file in /var/spool/mail and the man page has np reference to mail. Thanks in advance. Patrick
Re: I screwed up w/ shadow passwords
Martin Waller wrote: > > Hello, > > I have on old 486 on which I installed debian (slink) (any excuse), but > forgot my root password. So I went in and edited /etc/passwords, where > there were 'x's fro the password fields. [...] > How do I fix this? these 'x's are ther because you have shadow installed, so you need to delete rootpassword in /etc/shadow as you have done in passwd. set back password in passwd to the 'x'. that should work. you may take a look to manpages for shadow (man -k shadow), especially to pconv/pwunconv and shadowconfig to swithc between shadow/passwd support. gerhard
Re: Very basic question
On Fri, 15 Oct 1999, Patrick Kirk wrote: > I want to add a user so that they /home/username as their home directory and > so that they can receive mail. > > What is the command to set up a normal user? Is it useradd -m username? > This doesn't seem to set ip a mail file in /var/spool/mail and the man page > has np reference to mail. adduser username the /var/spool/mail/username file is created on demand. Martin -- If the box says 'Windows 95 or better', it should run on Linux, right? - anonymous For public PGP-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
More mail grief
When I try to delete messages in mutt, I get a message "Unable to create temporary file" or perhaps its unable to create temporaty buffer. Help please...my mailbox is getting very full! Patrick
please help if you can ...
Please explain in layman terms ... - ( I have read all faq's/howto etc) Example A system with a 2 GB hardrive and following partitions. 1) 25 mb > dos/fat16 2) 500 mb > win95c/fat32 3) 1393 mb > ext2 (proposed)/(debian/gnu/ --- hurd and/or linux mix/match) 4) 128mb > swapfile Given the example above:- -- Q1) I understand debian/gnu/hurd uses a ext2 partition Does this have to be a primary partition or can it be a partition contained within a dos/extended partition as a logical partition an ext2 etc and be booted via grub instead,or for some reason must it be primary,therefore why,and for what specific reasons,and also can the swapfile be placed within a dos extended logical partition area instead of in the primary area and/or can gnu/linux have a swapfile in such area/partition. Q2) I understand debian/gnu/hurd can't simply be installed like linux,and that the hurd requires linux to be present to install the hurd in the nominated partition designated/planned for the hurd?.After the hurd is installed can one remove the linux partition which was used to install the hurd in the hurd/ext2/partition?I ask this because I have doslinux using 10 meg in my dos partition and could use this just to install the hurd in it's area or is there/will there be a dependancy between the hurd and debian/linux. Q3) Once this Hurd has been installed I need to know if/and/how it interacts with linux,mainly because I wonder if one can then install linux into the same partition that the hurd resides or must linux reside in another seperate ext2/partition instead of sharing same partition with the hurd. How does the hurd handle linux programs/software now/future and can you please define the 2 types/linux binaries and how they differ from what executables are/and how the hurd interacts with debian/linux and applications or is there a factor for recompiling linux stuff to work with the debian/gnu/hurd. Q4) I understand that if say I have a Debian/linux/ext2 partition running linux I can possibly install/run the hurd in a subdir of the linux partition? T/F ? Perhaps this is only a plan for the future or can they exist in the same partition but in different directories and I also assume if this is the case installation packages must share libraries for compiling etc too ??? Q5) Currently I run a doslinux version of linux in my dos partition which uses loop principle to boot my doslinux out of it's compressed file, but there exists the option to setup this loop version of linux to boot from a native ext2 partition also,which I thought might, be an interesting option if also possible with the hurd for people using several os's for development reasons. Thanks ( in advanace/I'm trying to understand the faqs/howto explanations) .. Jonathan Larsen-Rask Lanz (web-nicname) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> or <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
eterm: mutt & slrn
I'm trying to have both mutt and slrn iconized and using eterm. I added the following lines in /GNUstep/Library/WindowMaker/menu.hook: "mutt-e" EXEC Eterm -T "mutt-e" -e /usr/local/bin/mutt "slrn-e" EXEC Eterm -T "slrn-e" -e /usr/bin/slrn but if I change the icon for, say, mutt, it also changes the icon for slrn (and viceversa)... how can I have a differente icon for each one? Also, I know there are special menus for mutt and slrn with eterm; I've got /usr/share/Eterm/themes/mutt/, which contains the files MAIN, mutt.menu, and the symlink pixmaps.list -> /usr/share/Eterm/pix/pixmaps.list how do I do in order to use it? and, how about slrn (there's no /usr/share/Eterm/themes/slrn/)? TIA -- Horacio Anno MMDCCLII ad Urbe condita [EMAIL PROTECTED] Valencia - ESPAÑA
man not working?
I can't make the `man' command working: $ man man No existe entrada de manual para man (There is no man entry for man) I recently compiled and installed mutt and gnupg in /usr/local, and tried to compile/install QT as well; it's ever since then that `man' is not working. TIA, -- Horacio Anno MMDCCLII ad Urbe condita [EMAIL PROTECTED] Valencia - ESPAÑA
ppp not working
i am new to debian but have managed to get a working set-up using 2.1. however, i am unable to connect to the net. when i try to invoke ppp, i get a message saying that there is no pppd module. what do i do? at what stage in the install is the ppp module loaded? i thought that this was an integral part of the system and did not need to be loaded separately. any help would be appreciated. i am using the fv2wm X interface. sam
Re: HP 9070cxi ???
Rob Reesor wrote: > Hi, > > Sorry for the intrusion. I noticed your exchange muc.lists.debian.user. I'm > having trouble posting, so thought I'd send email directly. > > I've just ordered a Red Hat Linux system and am having a hard time finding > a printer. Seems that most of the printers listed on the various > compatibility lists are no longer sold. The lists are very out of date. > > One list (gatekeeper.picante.com/~gtaylor/pht/printer_list.cgi) lists the > 970cxi as being "perfectly" compatible with Linux. However, it also claims > that driver information is incomplete and there is no autoprobe available. > > Have either of you gotten the 970cxi working with Linux? If you don't mind, > will you please let me know what printer you *have* gotten working with Linux? > > Many thanks, > > Rob I still have not decided what pirnter I am going to buy. I am still gathering more information. I have only gotten working an Epson Stylus Color 850 in my Debian linux box. I have not tried to configure another printer yet. This model has been easy to configure by using "magicfilter". Manuel Arenaz
Re: I screwed up w/ shadow passwords
On Fri, Oct 15, 1999 at 02:06:05AM -0700, Martin Waller wrote: > Hello, > > I have on old 486 on which I installed debian (slink) (any excuse), but > forgot my root password. So I went in and edited /etc/passwords, where > there were 'x's fro the password fields. > > Then I changed the root password after deleting the 'x' in root's > /etc/passwords entry. > > But now, the password only works under xdm login. Under console login, _no_ > password is required. > > How do I fix this? Put the "x" back. What you really need to do is simply run "passwd" as root. This wont require knowing the previous password. Ben
Re: Very basic question
adduser is the command I needed. Many thanks! Patrick
Re: xanim error :(
> "Jonathan" == Jonathan D Proulx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Jonathan> hi, when trying to run xanim (from netscape via plugger Jonathan> or from the command line) I get the following error: Jonathan> error in loading shared libraries :undefined Jonathan> symbol:__register_frame_info That error can occur when you try to run a binary linked with glibc 2.1 on a system with glibc 2.0. Your choices are to use the xanim from slink, upgrade to glibc 2.1, or build xanim from source. -- I get my monkeys for nothing and my chimps for free. http://www.clark.net/pub/hermit/
Re: Postscript Merging & Dial-in PPP Access
> 1) Merge two postcript files. I'm trying to run a > small script that converts the text output from > another program into Postscript, and then merge that > file with a previously createed postscript file. > > Here's the script segment that does these things :- > > --- Begin Script Segment -- > for $source.* > do > cat "$file" | enscript -p/tmp/outfile.ps -R -B > cat /u/psback.ps /tmp/outfile.ps | lpr -PHPLaser > done > End Script Segment --- > > The HP Laser is a fully postscript capable printer, I > can print both files seperately, and the files are > able to merge print on a SCO box, but under linux the > files seem to not want to merge. > > psback.ps is a background image that is needed > "behind" every page printed. > > source.* is a collection of single pages (organised > through another section of the script, quite simple > really). > > Comments about this will be greatly appreciated. All > help useful. Actually, this is probably more of a PostScript problem than a Linux problem. In this case, though, I think the difference in behavior (between the two UNIX systems) may be attributable to enscript. (I.e., no flames please.) Generally PostScript files are not appendable in this way. Now, maybe psback.ps is specially designed to be used in that way, but the typical way a PostScript programmer would have to make that work (modifying the showpage function) is dependent on how the file that follows is prepared, and whether *it* modifies the showpage function. (Typical reason a PostScript generator might modify this function: implementing page numbering.) I think what's probably happening here is that the version of enscript on the system where this *does* work must generate a different (simpler) PostScript prologue than the version on your Debian system. Namely, that version of enscript probably doesn't modify the showpage function itself. Under this theory, what would be happening is psback.ps executes its code and modifies the showpage function (probably) to lay down the background first, then the rest of the page your enscript output comes along and undoes those modifications and voila, you get the symptoms you didn't describe 8), which are probably either a) no output or b) same output as enscripting alone. Right? Unfortunately, the fix for this problem (assuming that's what it is) is not that easy. It would probably involve reworking psback.ps to a more reliable implementation, or reworking enscript's prologue to make it more tolerant of psback.ps. For experimentation, I would also recommend trying to view the file with ghostscript, and also moving it off the system and printing it from various places (PCs, Macs, whatever you have around. If the symptoms are all the same, then I think you can be assured the problem is in fact something like I suggest rather than the Debian lpd, and you might want to consider reposting in a PostScript forum. Sorry if any of this sounds vague. Unless you know PostScript the details aren't that helpful. c
Re: More mail grief
If su then everything works. So it sounds like a permissions problem on /var/spool/mail Anyone got any thoughts? Patrick - Original Message - From: Patrick Kirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, October 15, 1999 10:56 AM Subject: More mail grief > When I try to delete messages in mutt, I get a message "Unable to create > temporary file" or perhaps its unable to create temporaty buffer. > > Help please...my mailbox is getting very full! > > Patrick > > > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null > >
Re: keymap error when closing X
Hi Lance, [cc to kernel mailinglist] > I get the following when closing Xwindows. > > What does this mean? > How do I fix it? > > System: `/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/xkbcomp -w 1 -R/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb -xkm -m > us -em1 "The XKEYBOARD keymap > compiler (xkbcomp) reports:" -emp "> " -eml "Errors from xkbcomp are not > fatal to the X server" > keymap/xfree86 /var/tmp/xfree86.xkm' > xinit: connection to X server lost. > > I wonder if part of the problem is that 'us' is an empty file in > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/symbols I have the same message when I _start_ X. As soon as the XDM loginscreen is there, or when X is running, the mouse and keyboard don't work. They do during boot. Don't know if the message is related with the malfunctioning of the keyboard and mouse. This is with kernel 2.3.21 pre-patch-2.3.22-2 Kernel 2.3.19 is fine (didn't test another) Mouse and keyboard are PS/2 No gpm (disabled) Debian Potato: XFree86 Version 3.3.5 / X Window System (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6300) Release Date: August 23 1999 If I kill X via a remote login, keyboard works again (at console thus) I would be happy to supply more info if nescessary. Ookhoi
Re: Netscape 4.71 Is Rock Solid & Fast!
On Tue, Oct 12, 1999 at 06:03:24PM -0800, Adam Shand wrote: > > I am using A stable Debian Slink production system. Netscape version > > 4.71 glibc2.0 from ftp.netscape.com. > okay that makes sense then. i suggest that if you like that version of > netscape you don't upgrade to potato. netscapes glibc 2.1 code sucks hard. It does :-) But nothing prevents you from using the libc5 version of netscape under potato (which is what I do) I wouldn't call it rock solid, but it's useable and only crashes two or three times a week (I usually leave it open with 6 or seven windows) Nils -- Plug-and-Play is really nice, unfortunately it only works 50% of the time. To be specific the "Plug" almost always works.--unknown source pgpUY8Lte4t1M.pgp Description: PGP signature
Creating/Moving a partition
I'd like to make a new partition for /var because I don't have enough drive space where /var is currently mounted (/) to run apt-get dist-upgrade. What's the best way of doing this? I can create a new /var partition because I've got plenty of available drive space, but what set-up files will I have to modify to make sure things go smoothly? I assume I'll have to change fstab. But then do I have to move all contents of the current /var to the new /var? Could I create the new partition using a temporary name, move all the /var stuff to it, then rename it to /var? Thanks. -- David J. Kanter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian 2.1
Re: Sun floppy boot
Hello again :) A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said... > Hi, > > I tried to boot my Sun Classic off of a floppy yesterday, but it didn't > work. I don't know how to change the boot media in the prom monitor. I > have tried ">boot floppy", ">setenv boot-disk=floppy" and "go". You were at the ">" prompt, which is the old-style boot rom for compatibility with the Sun 3 and older. When you're hit with that prompt, you need to hit "n" and enter to get to the "ok" prompt, which is what you're looking for. At the "ok" prompt, "boot floppy" will work the way you expect. > I have surfed the web too, trying to find a document on prom monitor. > But I haven't found anything related to the boot media. If you type "help" at the "ok" prompt you get some online help. > How does the prom monitor see the floppy device? Is it as "floppy", > "/dev/fd0"? Or anything else? The boot ROM knows "floppy" as well as /fd. -- -- Phil Brutsche [EMAIL PROTECTED] "There are two things that are infinite; Human stupidity and the universe. And I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
apache ASP perl : config ?
hello, please can someone help me with installing libapache-asp-perl ? I don't know what to add in : /etc/ apache/ access.conf srm.conf httpd.conf i set it to download the perl_mod. thanks
2.3x and IP masquerading
Marcin If you are ready to live dangerously, I would suggest you join the the Linux Kernel mailing list, [EMAIL PROTECTED] They should steer you in the right direction. -- David Natkins Email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fax to: (718) 488-1780 Phone: (718) 403-2474
Re: SECOND TRY: Re: Group "adm"?
"Eric Gillespie, Jr." wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 14, 1999 at 12:25:35PM -0400, > Ed Cogburn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ed Cogburn wrote: > > > > > > I've noticed several files in my normal user (ed) home dir, > > > which, instead of "ed" as group owner, are given the group of "adm". > > > These files are all types, a file created by Netscape while > > > downloading, a sub-dir I created, and a config file (.xscreensaver) > > > created by another process, as examples. The user "ed", isn't allowed > > > to change this, I have to use chown as root to fix things. Is this > > > normal? Why do they get the group of "adm"? > > > > > This is just a guess, and I don't know how it could have happened, but > your home directory might belong to group adm. My homedir is SGID, so that > all files are owned by the same group as it. If yours is set up the same > way, and I imagine it is, this might be it. Thanks for the reply. /home: drwxrwsr-x 3 ed ed 1024 Aug 11 1998 home I don't know how the above happened for /home. What should the owner/permissions of /home be? /home/ed: drwxrwxr-x 30 ed ed 3072 Oct 15 05:41 ed Its not SGID. Should it be? P.S. The group 'ed' does exist, and it doesn't matter whether user 'ed' is a member of 'adm' or not. 'mkdir temp' in /home/ed (executed by the user 'ed') always results in the group owner of the temp subdir being 'adm'. -- Ed C.
Re: 24-bit graphics woes
Bill wrote: > > I think the 24 bit colour problem is from one of the libraries Netscape > 4.6 (and WP 8) was compiled with. Do a search in the mail archive and > and in Deja for more info. It seems to be a problem only at 24 bit. The > other problem I've never seen before, maybe another netscape bug, I'm > currently running at 16 bit myself. > Bill I remember this coming up a while back. The definitive answer given by someone then was that NS's problem with 24 bit color was a Netscape bug. (which begs the question: Why hasn't it been fixed since then?) -- Ed C.
Re: (no subject)
Rob Mahurin wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 14, 1999 at 11:43:11PM +0200, Leo Mignemi wrote: > > unsubscribe > > > > > > -- > > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null > > Somebody does this about once a day. Is it possible to change the > instruction footer to something less cryptic? > > Rob I doubt it would help, people just don't read. I'm in other mailing lists that use 2-3 lines to explain how to unsubscribe, yet I see this kind of thing occur there too. -- Ed C.
Any way to install modconf on current potato?
Is there any way to get modconf to install on the current release of potato? Failing that, what are the necessary commands at the console to: 1) See what modules my kernel is compiled to support (I know what they are, just not the module names - they were never mentioned in make xconfig) 2) See the help on a module's parameter format 3) Attempt to add a module into the running kernel with a given set of parameters 4) Set things up so that the module I just added will be added next time I boot as well On a related note, I can't seem to get gnome-apt to install either - it wants an unavailable version of libapt-pkg2.5. Any ideas on this one? Thanks, Stuart.
swap quotas?
Is it possible to limit certain apps to limited amount of swap? This morning I sit down at my machine to find that something ate all my swap which then proceeded to crash lots of daemons and my X session. I don't know what was the culprit but I wouldn't be supprised if it was netscape. I could care less if netscape crashes from lack of swap but I don't really like having my xsession shutdown and all of my remote jobs terminated and leaving my system in basically unusable state. Btw, my setup is slink with lots of slink compiled potato packages, 256M memory and two swap partitions of 149M and 128M swap. Hmmm, I have some free disk space (already formated) that I could add some swap files to. Is there some daemon that could turn these on as swap gets full? I don't want these active at all times since they will be slow. I'll see what google finds on this. Thanks, Brian Servis -- Mechanical Engineering | Never criticize anybody until you Purdue University | have walked a mile in their shoes, [EMAIL PROTECTED] | because by that time you will be a http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis | mile away and have their shoes.
Re: ppp not working
Make sure "ppp" is in your "/etc/modules" file. Also make sure the module exists -- "/lib/modules/2.?.??/net/ppp.o" [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Samuel Varghese) writes: > i am new to debian but have managed to get a working set-up using 2.1. > however, i am unable to connect to the net. when i try to invoke ppp, i get a > message saying that there is no pppd module. what do i do? at what stage in > the > install is the ppp module loaded? i thought that this was an integral part of > the system and did not need to be loaded separately. > any help would be appreciated. i am using the fv2wm X interface. > sam -- *** Running Debian Linux *** * For God so loved the world that He gave his only begotten Son, * * that whoever believes in Him should not perish...John 3:16 * * W. Paul Mills * Topeka, Kansas, U.S.A. * * EMAIL= [EMAIL PROTECTED] * WWW= http://Mills-USA.com/ * * Bill, I was there several years ago, why would I want to go back? * * pgp public key on keyservers everywhere? */ --
Re: Creating/Moving a partition
"David J. Kanter" wrote: > > I'd like to make a new partition for /var because I don't have enough drive > space where /var is currently mounted (/) to run apt-get dist-upgrade. > What's the best way of doing this? I can create a new /var partition because > I've got plenty of available drive space, but what set-up files will I have > to modify to make sure things go smoothly? > > I assume I'll have to change fstab. But then do I have to move all contents > of the current /var to the new /var? Could I create the new partition using > a temporary name, move all the /var stuff to it, then rename it to /var? Thats what I would suggest. Stop everything you can, copy the contents and do the final swapover in one line, just in case # mv /var /old_var ; mv /new_var /var Another alternative is to create a whole new, bigger, root partition, copy everyting to that, boot it from a rescue floppy and once there 1) make it bootable, fix up /etc/fstab and /etc/lilo.conf and run lilo 2) remove the original root partition and replace it with an enlarged verion. It depends what else you've got on the disk, how much time you have, etc. Andrew
Re: install, I'm in over my head
If you can find the documentation for the CD-ROM, check to see whether it is an ATAPI drive. If so, you don't need any special drivers for it-- you just use the (E)IDE driver. Marc -- Marc Mongeon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Unix Specialist Ban-Koe Systems 9100 W Bloomington Fwy Bloomington, MN 55431-2200 (612)888-0123, x417 | FAX: (612)888-3344 -- "It's such a fine line between clever and stupid." -- David St. Hubbins and Nigel Tufnel of "Spinal Tap" >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 10/15 12:14 AM >>> > Linear, paride, raid0, raid1, raid5. You probably don't need any of them. paride is for parallel port IDE devices. All the RAID ones are for Redundant Array of Inexpensive Disks. I'm not sure what linear is for. > I could not install one module though it really sounds important: > xd xt hard disk controller I don't think you need that either unless you have a REALLY anchient machine. The normal IDE drivers should suffice. > fit my setup. I have a Mitsumi cd-rom manufactured in September 1993. I see [snip] Dunno what to suggest here. I have an all SCSI system and the systems I work on are all SCSI also so I don't usually deal with that stuff. > for my home use. If I cannot complete the install tonight do my partitions > stay intact? I am a man but I am nearly having tears of frustration, for as The partitions aren't going anywhere if you turn the computer off. But I'd suggest just leaving it on until you get some answers. Just turn the monitor off. > I was typing this out a few minutes ago with a Win98 sitting nearby I > suffered a fatal exception and lost all the detailed questions that I am > asking here just before sending it. Agh Ugh. Sorry man. The quicker we get you running Linux, the quicker the road to recovery :) --Ian Ehrenwald -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: More mail grief
Operator error. I loaded a spare partition /dev/hda4 as /tmp [ as /tmp was conveniently empty!] and that screwed it up. Sorry for the waste of time.
Re: eterm: mutt & slrn
I'm not sure about using menus, but I've done the two-icon thing just using xterm. In xterm, I did this: xterm -name "Mutt" -title "E-Mail" -e mutt & xterm -name "Slrn" -title "News" -e slrn & This lets me chose a separate appicon for one without affecting the other. Since Exit session in Wmaker saves everything in place, I don't see the need for menus. Or if you want, just do the above commands and dock the two appicons. >>> J Horacio MG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 10/15/99 5:19:05 AM >>> I'm trying to have both mutt and slrn iconized and using eterm. I added the following lines in /GNUstep/Library/WindowMaker/menu.hook: "mutt-e" EXEC Eterm -T "mutt-e" -e /usr/local/bin/mutt "slrn-e" EXEC Eterm -T "slrn-e" -e /usr/bin/slrn but if I change the icon for, say, mutt, it also changes the icon for slrn (and viceversa)... how can I have a differente icon for each one?
Re: Need SCSI Tape Help
> Hi all! > > I'm using slink with an SMP kernel (2.0.36) on a dual Pentium Pro 200 with > 256M RAM. The HD setup is a pair of 4 GB Seagate Barracudas on an Adaptec > 2940UW along with an SCSI CDROM and a Tandberg 4222 tape drive. I've got a > really sweet server here except that I just noticed there are no /dev/st* > for the tape drive. Anyone know at what point during the installation these > get created? I've got another machine here with an SCSI tape with lots of > /dev/st*. I'd sure hate to mknod 'em all by hand on the new beast. > > Thanks For a single drive, you only need two: /dev/st0 (9,0) and /dev/nst0 (9,128). Dean
Re: Printer suggestion
Manuel, I have an HP 540 and an HP 310, both of which just work out of the box with all of my Linux systems. However, all HP printers use the same control language, called PCL level 3. This means that any HP Inkjet will work with Linux as long as it isn't one of the Windows-only versions. This means that you should make sure that the printer specifications state that it will work on MS-DOS. If it works with MS-DOS, it will work with Linux. Getting any standard HP printer working is easy with apsfilter, which is the driver I personally prefer. Just select the HP printer which is closest to the model you have and everything should be just fine. These printers also work well with magicfilter. Once either one of these is configured, you should be able to print without hassles. The reason why I suggested the HP 970cxi was that it should work with Linux out of the box and that it has the nice feature of being able to automatically print on both sides of the paper. The price is also very good. If you have technical questions about this, I suggest that you contact HP. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Manuel, > > > > Hewlett-Packard, but avoid the "Winprinters" > > > > HP's *are* indeed very rugged. Plus, they have the advantage of > > replacing the print head every time you put in new ink. This alone > > makes the HP head-over-heals better than any of the other inkjets. If > > you have ever priced the cost of replacing a print head on a non-HP, > > you'd know what I'm talking about. They don't last forever. With HP, > > you don't have to worry about that. > > > > Best value for my money would be the HP 970cxi. It's 12 ppm in B&W > > fast draft mode. It can do two-sided printing (!!!) and street prices > > are under $350. I don't know of any other inexpensive printer that > > will automatically print on both sides of the paper. That sells this > > one to me. > > First of all, apologies for writing directly to you. I am writing because > I asked through the list about configuration issues of the HP 970cxi > (magicfilter version, ghostscript version, lpd version, Debian > version...) > in a Debian linux box but I got no answer. > > >From your mail I understand that you have this HP printer model working > in your linux box. Could you please tell me if this is correct? In that > case, could you please tell me which are the characteristics of your box? > > Please, reply to the debian-user-list because I know there are more > people interested in this information. > > Thank you very much, > > Manuel Arenaz
Potato Dependancies problem.
My problem: A new version of slang is in Potato (version > 1.3) mc and mc-common depend on it (along with ae) but whiptail wants slang to be < 1.3 and modconf depends on whiptail. Suggestions? (obviously a new version of modconf and whiptail with a depend on slang > 1.3, but none is in Potato) -- David Natkins Email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fax to: (718) 488-1780 Phone: (718) 403-2474
timezone question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- I have 2 slink boxes at home. I'm having a timezone problem on one of them, and I can't figure out what to do about it. If I run 'date +"%Z"' on one machine, it prints 'EDT' which is correct because we're in daylight savings time. On the other machine, it prints 'EST' which is not correct, and the time on the system is 1 hour behind what it should be. Running tzconfig on either machine prints out 'US/Eastern'. /etc/default/rcS sets GMT='-u' on both machines, and the BIOS clocks are set to GMT. (actually, I can't verify that right now because I'm at a remote location. Is there a way to get/set the BIOS clock time from within Linux?) Can anybody tell me how I can tell the machine to use EDT instead of EST??? I'm stumped. TIA, noah PGP public key available at http://lynx.dac.neu.edu/home/httpd/n/nmeyerha/mail.html or by 'finger -l [EMAIL PROTECTED]' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBOAc6FYdCcpBjGWoFAQH2aQP8DgiUtTQHowlqPcnoqrFMmLHsEWkDHCoS GbbLYCW9f39vsaYcBLhfxxEPthi/e0LMYtMpC3ikuoalWNqkMJ/OKWLVpvtpufpZ d/wES4oFyNfQ+sIeylYRMsauB9380bm2QGp4eoq/yxwAlwuW8AvX7SKIw/JVT/n+ 7FdncePPg+I= =OHrR -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: More mail grief
Operator error. I loaded a spare partition /dev/hda4 as /tmp and that screwed it up. Sorry for the waste of time.
Re: timezone question
On Fri, Oct 15, 1999 at 10:28:31 -0400, Noah L. Meyerhans wrote: > and the time on the system is 1 hour behind what it should be. Running > tzconfig on either machine prints out 'US/Eastern'. Are you sure it doesn't have the "TZ" environment variable set? > Is there a way to get/set the BIOS clock time from within Linux?) Yes. clock(8) (on older systems it may be called hwclock(8)). HTH, Ray -- ART A friend of mine in Tulsa, Okla., when I was about eleven years old. I'd be interested to hear from him. There are so many pseudos around taking his name in vain. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: Need SCSI Tape Help
Mike Barton wrote: > > Hi all! > > I'm using slink with an SMP kernel (2.0.36) on a dual Pentium Pro 200 with > 256M RAM. The HD setup is a pair of 4 GB Seagate Barracudas on an Adaptec > 2940UW along with an SCSI CDROM and a Tandberg 4222 tape drive. I've got a > really sweet server here except that I just noticed there are no /dev/st* > for the tape drive. Anyone know at what point during the installation these > get created? I've got another machine here with an SCSI tape with lots of > /dev/st*. I'd sure hate to mknod 'em all by hand on the new beast. > Your kernel is configured for SCSI tape support, right? I don't think that's the default. Do a 'make menuconfig' and look for it. If it's there, I believe you can cd to '/dev' and do a MAKEDEV, and that will create all the proper devices for you automatically. Folks, isn't the kernel build process supposed to do this for you? I remember having to do this myself, for a SCSI tape also, I believe. I used make-kpkg, then installed the binary package.
Re: (very) remote install
On Thu, Oct 14, 1999 at 08:13:01PM -0400, paul wrote: > I've been asked to install Debian on a server that resides several > thousand miles from where I am (I am in Philadelphia, the server is in > Korea). Is it possible for me to replace the current RH installation with > Debian from my present location? Where are docs pertaining to this? Alas, there are none. The one time I had to do something similar, I ended up having them ups me the hard drive, I did the install, and then upsed it back. They'd gotten the system into a completely wedged state though, and trying to do it remotely wasn't an option. > The owner of the machine (call him john) wants to avoid the reboot, and > does not know (or trust) anyone at the remote location. I BELIEVE I could > do this by installing and configuring a (minimal) base system complete > with his root password here, and then gzipping it, telnet to the remote > host as root, chroot to a ramdisk, reformat /dev/hda, install the gzipped > and ready base system (configured for remote root access and RARP), start > a script that will reboot the machine after I have logged off, then > john can telnet to his server, log in as root, change root's password and > run dselect to install the rest of his system. All this really depends on their disk partitioning situation. If they have enough free space on /home, you could move all the /home/whatever directories into /home/saved and then untar a working minimal system into it. I'd do a quick make bzDisk though so you can reboot off a floppy if you run into any >1024 cylinder problems and still get into the debianized partition. Once you're running off the debianized /home, you can then nuke the old / and rerun lilo again and be ready to go. > John does not think this will work he should know, he's had 20+ > years working with Unix and Ive only two years on Linux. But he has not > suggested any other method. If you do manage to get it switched, it'd be nice if you wrote up exactly how you did it. jpb -- Joe Block <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CREOL System Administrator Social graces are the packet headers of everyday life.
Re: Newbie Non-FAQ(I think) questions
On Thu, Oct 14, 1999 at 09:26:16PM -0400, Justin Settle wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > The Nt boot loader is a pain - you can't use lilo. There is a howto for > this though. I take you have partitioning all done as fips can split > and NTFS partition as of yet. I saw something yesterday or the day before on freshmeat that is supposed to specifically deal with getting ntloader to play nice with linux. jpb -- Joe Block <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CREOL System Administrator Social graces are the packet headers of everyday life.
Re: install, I'm in over my head
jh wrote: > [cut] > > Also in the Device drivers for cd-rom drives I see two that would seem to > fit my setup. I have a Mitsumi cd-rom manufactured in September 1993. I see > mitsumi cd-rom and mitsumi cd-rom with extended features. When I try to > install these I get an error message like: > /lib/modules/2.0.36//cdrom/mcd.0 : init_module: device or resource > busy > eval: 1: syntax error : eof in backquote substitution > script: cd /dev && rm -f cdrom && ln -s cdrom > eval: 1: syntax error: eof in backquote substitution > Could anyone give me some advice? Should I try some of the other modules > like aztcd, cdrom, optcd, cm206 ? Do I need to enter something in the > argument section on any of the above? Could that be why the installation > failled? > Don't feel bad. Odd hardware is the biggest frustration of Linux installation. Don't pick both modules. Just pick one. My understanding is that either one should do, but you can read PhotoCDs with the "extended features" one. Make sure also that this is the nonATAPI Mitsumi (LU-005, FX-001 or FX-001D). It probably is. There is an ATAPI one (FX-001DE or something like that); also triple and quad-speed models are ATAPI. I'm reading all this from the 'make menuconfig' help; I don't know if all that help text is available on an initial install. Hope this helps. [cut]
Re: Creating/Moving a partition
> "David J. Kanter" wrote: > > > > I'd like to make a new partition for /var because I don't have enough drive > > space where /var is currently mounted (/) to run apt-get dist-upgrade. > > What's the best way of doing this? I can create a new /var partition becaus e > > I've got plenty of available drive space, but what set-up files will I have > > to modify to make sure things go smoothly? > > > > I assume I'll have to change fstab. But then do I have to move all contents > > of the current /var to the new /var? Could I create the new partition using > > a temporary name, move all the /var stuff to it, then rename it to /var? > > Thats what I would suggest. > Stop everything you can, copy the contents and do the final swapover in one > line, just in case > # mv /var /old_var ; mv /new_var /var NO, NO, NO, NO, NO Do *NOT* use "mv". This will change the ownership and protection rights of the contents. This will most certainly break something. Instead, use "cp -a" to preserve everything. 1. Log in as "root" 2. Go to run level 1 (kills networking). Also kill all user processes. init 1 3. Add the following to your /etc/fstab /dev/??? /var ext2defaults1 2 (The ??? is the partition of your new /var) 4. Change the name of your old /var directory and make a new empty one. mv /var /oldvar mkdir /var chmod 755 /var 5. Mount your new var partition. mount /dev/??? /var 6. Now, use "cp -a" (or "cp -av" if you want to watch it) to copy your files, permissions and ownership to the new partition. cp -av /var/* /var If things don't work, you still have your old partition in pristine shape to go back to where you were. I wouldn't delete the old /var until I determined that everything works fine--maybe a week. The idea of just getting a bigger root partition is a bad idea. /var is a very, very good candidate for a separate partition.
Re: Need SCSI Tape Help
On Fri, Oct 15, 1999 at 09:28:34AM -0500, Keith G. Murphy wrote: > Mike Barton wrote: > > > > Hi all! > > > > I'm using slink with an SMP kernel (2.0.36) on a dual Pentium Pro 200 with > > 256M RAM. The HD setup is a pair of 4 GB Seagate Barracudas on an Adaptec > > 2940UW along with an SCSI CDROM and a Tandberg 4222 tape drive. I've got a > > really sweet server here except that I just noticed there are no /dev/st* > > for the tape drive. Anyone know at what point during the installation these > > get created? I've got another machine here with an SCSI tape with lots of > > /dev/st*. I'd sure hate to mknod 'em all by hand on the new beast. > > > Your kernel is configured for SCSI tape support, right? I don't think > that's the default. Do a 'make menuconfig' and look for it. > > If it's there, I believe you can cd to '/dev' and do a MAKEDEV, and that > will create all the proper devices for you automatically. > > Folks, isn't the kernel build process supposed to do this for you? I > remember having to do this myself, for a SCSI tape also, I believe. I > used make-kpkg, then installed the binary package. > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null > I had to MAKEDEV for ST* and SG*, maybe we need to re-vist the install scripts? -- *--* Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *--* Voice: 425.739.4247 *--* Fax: 425.827.9577 *--* HTTP://www.otak-k.com/~lawrence/ -- - - - - - - O t a k i n c . - - - - -
Re: Intention to NMU MRTG
On Fri, Oct 15, 1999 at 12:43:27AM +0200, Michael-John Turner wrote: > Hi > > If no-one objects, I'd like to do an NMU of MRTG early next week. The > major reason for this is that the SNMP_Session Perl modules need to > be split off into a separate package (a number of applications make > use of them and they are maintained independently of MRTG by a different > author). I have tried to contact the maintainer several times over the > past two weeks, but he seems to be MIA and this update needs to go in > before the potato freeze as it's delaying a number of packages that > depend on SNMP_Session. > > I have packaged 2.8.8, which now depends on libsnmp-session-perl, closes > bug #44496 and is compliant with policy 3.0.1. I have put the packages > at http://www.edrc.uct.ac.za/~mj/debian/ for testing. They work for me - > could anyone who uses MRTG _please_ test them and let me know if there > are any problems. > > Changes: > mrtg (2.8.8-0.1) unstable; urgency=low > . >* NMU to remove SNMP_Session modules (which are now to be found in > libsnmp-session-perl). >* New upstream version. >* Upgraded standards-version to 3.0.1. >* Added dependancy on libsnmp-session-perl. >* Fixed cron script. Closes: #44496. >* Include more detailed sample configuration file (sample-mrtg.cfg). > > -mj > -- > Michael-John Turner | http://www.edr.uct.ac.za/~mj/ > [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Linux @ UCT -> http://www.leg.uct.ac.za/ > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] | PGP key via mail, WWW or finger > @phantom > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Hey take a look at the fact that MRTG and the latest snmpd in potato don't seem to work. I pounded my head on that one for a quite a while, never figured it out, maybe a pair of fresh eyes might be able to see what I am not -- *--* Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *--* Voice: 425.739.4247 *--* Fax: 425.827.9577 *--* HTTP://www.otak-k.com/~lawrence/ -- - - - - - - O t a k i n c . - - - - -
Re: Postscript Merging & Dial-in PPP Access
Peter Ludwig wrote: > > 2) Dial-in PPP Access. Before people start screaming > at me to read the manuals, I suggest they also look in > the documentation. The current documentation is not > detailed enough for me to get the system to work. I > can setup shell access using mgetty, but as soon as I > try and setup a pppd to run, it kills the connection > complaining about the lock files. > > How-to files, please paste into > your reply all relevant sections, as the online > HOWTO's, and the local howto's onsite are not up to > the task. Mmmm, you're wanting the free advice, and you want *us* to cut and paste a bunch of stuff for you? What about making the effort to cut-and-paste *your* config files? Sheesh. You have AutoPPP set up in mgetty, right? You have lock set up as a pppd option, right? Mgetty is using ttyS1, or whatever unit number, right? (Don't use cua, use ttyS.) > > BTW - I'm not on the mailing list (I don't have time > to sort through heaps of mail everyday). Do you really think that the people who read this list and help people have more time on their hands than you do? I sincerely doubt it. Wonder why they bother doing it? > Please post > all replies direct to me. > I refuse. Deal with it.
Re: Creating/Moving a partition
I wrote: > 6. Now, use "cp -a" (or "cp -av" if you want to watch it) to copy your >files, permissions and ownership to the new partition. > >cp -av /var/* /var > PS That command should be: cp -av /oldvar/* /var
Re: How to Access 2nd Serial Port & Cisco 675?
I would just try using minicom or seyon. Both these programs will allow you to make a "terminal" connection to the device and type whatever commands you wish. The second serial port ordinarily will be accessed as /dev/ttyS1. Art Lemasters wrote: > How can I access my Cisco 675 modem/router through the second > serial interface? ...anyone have experience with the 675 or at > least with access any device through the second serial port? > > Art > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ppp not working
Samuel Varghese wrote: > > i am new to debian but have managed to get a working set-up using 2.1. > however, i am unable to connect to the net. when i try to invoke ppp, i get a > message saying that there is no pppd module. what do i do? at what stage in > the > install is the ppp module loaded? i thought that this was an integral part of > the system and did not need to be loaded separately. > any help would be appreciated. i am using the fv2wm X interface. Try 'insmod ppp'. Does that make it work? This should, indeed, be done automatically. /etc/init.d/modutils should have code to do 'depmod -a' and 'modprobe', which should do all you need. Take a look there. But have you rebooted since your install? Maybe that's all that's needed.
Re: Creating/Moving a partition
"David J. Kanter" wrote: > > I'd like to make a new partition for /var because I don't have enough drive > space where /var is currently mounted (/) to run apt-get dist-upgrade. > What's the best way of doing this? I can create a new /var partition because > I've got plenty of available drive space, but what set-up files will I have > to modify to make sure things go smoothly? > > I assume I'll have to change fstab. But then do I have to move all contents > of the current /var to the new /var? Could I create the new partition using > a temporary name, move all the /var stuff to it, then rename it to /var? > Yep, exactly. I'd go down to single-user mode to do this. 'Shutdown', good backups, and 'cp -a' are your friends.
Re: timezone question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Thanks for the quick reply. It turns out my hardware clock was an hour off. I fixed it with hwclock and life is good. Thanks for pointing me to that program. noah On Fri, 15 Oct 1999, J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) wrote: > On Fri, Oct 15, 1999 at 10:28:31 -0400, Noah L. Meyerhans wrote: > > and the time on the system is 1 hour behind what it should be. Running > > tzconfig on either machine prints out 'US/Eastern'. > > Are you sure it doesn't have the "TZ" environment variable set? > > > Is there a way to get/set the BIOS clock time from within Linux?) > > Yes. clock(8) (on older systems it may be called hwclock(8)). > > HTH, > Ray > -- > ART A friend of mine in Tulsa, Okla., when I was about eleven years old. > I'd be interested to hear from him. There are so many pseudos around taking > his name in vain. > - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null > PGP public key available at http://lynx.dac.neu.edu/home/httpd/n/nmeyerha/mail.html or by 'finger -l [EMAIL PROTECTED]' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBOAdL3IdCcpBjGWoFAQFKUgP+Pmi53CSIM8kJIZHnQraQrVlKUWetRSbI Efmlk9A7MVVfQ5qVQWNvwoBShYzAm69V92aA0lddYlKGUNfWhDBiXqRcDe5BWgTY 4wF5Cxnn2Ao8gDinyWx6dmHES6RSivhYpSdaaTy79FAr3IQq+OTC6J4gUvEaR3+L VqyRTNwwPss= =GtXs -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: ppp not working
I think what's being overlooked in all of this is that the orignal problem was that pppd was not found. pppd is the daemon. As root, issue the command: updatedb then enter : locate pppd and see what comes up. "Keith G. Murphy" wrote: > > Samuel Varghese wrote: > > > > i am new to debian but have managed to get a working set-up using 2.1. > > however, i am unable to connect to the net. when i try to invoke ppp, i get > > a > > message saying that there is no pppd module. what do i do? at what stage in > > the > > install is the ppp module loaded? i thought that this was an integral part > > of > > the system and did not need to be loaded separately. > > any help would be appreciated. i am using the fv2wm X interface. > > Try 'insmod ppp'. Does that make it work? > > This should, indeed, be done automatically. /etc/init.d/modutils should > have code to do 'depmod -a' and 'modprobe', which should do all you > need. Take a look there. But have you rebooted since your install? > Maybe that's all that's needed. > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null -- David Natkins Email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fax to: (718) 488-1780 Phone: (718) 403-2474
eth1 can't be loaded
Hi all, Does this look like a hardware failure on a NIC? I'm getting a little desperate now as the kids will be most upset if they can't browse the Teletubbies sites over the weekend! enterprise:/lib/modules/2.0.36/net# ifconfig eth1 10.0.0.25 netmask 255.255.255. 0 broadcast 10.0.0.25 SIOCSIFFLAGS: Resource temporarily unavailable enterprise:/lib/modules/2.0.36/net# cat /etc/modules # /etc/modules: kernel modules to load at boot time. # # This file should contain the names of kernel modules that are # to be loaded at boot time, one per line. Comments begin with # a `#', and everything on the line after them are ignored. # An entry named `auto' will cause the system to start kerneld immediately. # Kerneld then loads modules on demand. `noauto' disables kerneld completely. #auto ne2k-pci tulip ip_alias psaux
Re: Creating/Moving a partition
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > # mv /var /old_var ; mv /new_var /var > > NO, NO, NO, NO, NO! > > Do NOT use mv! This will change the ownership and protection rights > of the files. That could be very, very bad and will most certainly break > something. Oops. I missed out: First make a perfect copy of /var in another partition mounted on /new_var using tar, cp, cpio or whatever, Then swap them as described using mv. However, your approach seems a little more robust :-) I'll shut up now. Andrew -- http://counter.li.org/cgi-bin/runscript/display-person.cgi?user=45690
Mail refusing to leave my machine
I have two ISPs: Demon and Freeserve. In the last week it has become almost impossible to send out mail (I'm sending this from a different machine which seems to work). It's been slow at times in the past but this is ridiculous. I'm using Slink with smail. I've RTFMd till I'm dizzy and have fiddled with /etc/resolv.conf for hours; sometimes it seems to work perfectly but then it blocks again for hours and hours. What I find really odd is that it can start and stop working without my having changed anything. Messages in /var/spool/smail show "server unreachable"; "connection refused". Receiving mail, reading news, accessing websites are all fine. Has anyone experienced anything like this? Should I install qmail or exim perhaps? Here is my /etc/resolv.conf in case this sheds any light. #demon nameservers nameserver 158.152.1.58 nameserver 158.152.1.43 #freeserve nameservers nameserver 195.92.193.94 nameserver 195.92.193.95 nameserver 195.92.193.212 nameserver 195.92.193.210 Can anyone suggest what to try next? Anthony -- Anthony Campbell - running Linux - Debian 2.1 (Windows-free zone) Book Reviews: www.achc.demon.co.uk/bookreviews/ "The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ, Moves on..." - Edward Fitzgerald (Rubaiat of Omar Khayyam)
Banner
I have Debian (slink) installed in a Packard Bell, and I want to get rid of the Packard Bell banner that shows up at the beginning, when it is rebooted. I would like to replace it with the Debian logo, or the Linux penguin may be. How do I do it?
Re: Any way to install modconf on current potato?
Stuart Ballard wrote: > Is there any way to get modconf to install on the current release of > potato? Failing that, what are the necessary commands at the console to: > 1) See what modules my kernel is compiled to support (I know what they > are, just not the module names - they were never mentioned in make > xconfig) > 2) See the help on a module's parameter format > 3) Attempt to add a module into the running kernel with a given set of > parameters > 4) Set things up so that the module I just added will be added next time > I boot as well > > On a related note, I can't seem to get gnome-apt to install either - it > wants an unavailable version of libapt-pkg2.5. Any ideas on this one? > > Thanks, > > Stuart. > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null Stuart, The modconf problem (as with ae, newt and whiptail) stems from an upgraded slang - the other progs are yet to be updated to work with the new slang. The only way to get them to work again is to downgrade slang to an older version, if you have one kicking around - the slink one might work but I don't know if it's too early a version (haven't tried). You can browse the modules compiled in /lib/modules/(kernel version)/ The files in dirs there (e.g. misc, scsi, net etc) are the modules that can be loaded by listing in /etc/modules. Adding modules here causes them to load at next boot. I actually prefer to add modules manually to /etc/modules as I find modutils sometimes destroys little additions I have made to the module options file (see below...), specifically one which loads a soundbank into my Awe64. Module loading options can be defined in /etc/conf.modules <- this changed to the more logical modules.conf with the recent (last night?) modutils update to potato. Additions like (eg for an SB AWE32/64) options sb io=0x220 irq=5 dma=1 dma16=5 mpu_io=0x330 options opl3 io=0x388 etc To get help on a module's parameters, you want to be reading the files in the Documentation folder of a Kernel source - if you don't have a kernel source in /usr/src/linux (do you roll your own?), Debian allows you to install documentation e.g. with the package kernel-doc-2.2.12 (there are other versions also) I can't help you with the gnome-apt issue though. Jonathan.
Re: Potato Dependancies problem.
David Natkins wrote: > My problem: > > A new version of slang is in Potato (version > 1.3) > mc and mc-common depend on it (along with ae) > but whiptail wants slang to be < 1.3 and > modconf depends on whiptail. > Suggestions? (obviously a new version of modconf and whiptail with > a depend on slang > 1.3, but none is in Potato) > -- > David Natkins > Email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Fax to: (718) 488-1780 > Phone: (718) 403-2474 > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null Everyone's having this problem at the moment, one solution is to downgrade slang to an older version and put upgrading it on hold in dselect until new versions of the other debs arrive that work with the new slang. Do you have an old slang deb kicking around? I've just checked the slink version no. and it should work but I haven't tried it myself. Give it a go, but other packages you have may depend on a newer version, which might scupper the idea. Jonathan.
Re: Creating/Moving a partition
On Fri, 15 Oct 1999, Andrew Hately wrote: > "David J. Kanter" wrote: > > > > I'd like to make a new partition for /var because I don't have enough drive > > space where /var is currently mounted (/) to run apt-get dist-upgrade. > > What's the best way of doing this? I can create a new /var partition because > > I've got plenty of available drive space, but what set-up files will I have > > to modify to make sure things go smoothly? > > > > I assume I'll have to change fstab. But then do I have to move all contents > > of the current /var to the new /var? Could I create the new partition using > > a temporary name, move all the /var stuff to it, then rename it to /var? > > Thats what I would suggest. > Stop everything you can, copy the contents and do the final swapover in one > line, just in case > # mv /var /old_var ; mv /new_var /var > I'd like to expand on that last paragraph. 1) stop everything you can -> go into single user mode close all user programs (i.e. tidy up) then as root: telinit 1 2) copy the contents -> if you use the 'cp' command you're likely to mess with file ownership and permissions. The command I use is this: cd /mnt <-- where the new /var partition is currently mounted (cd /var; tar cfp - [list of directories]) | tar xfp - 3) once you're done, go back to normal runlevel as root: telinit 2 (change the number depending on what runlevel you usually live in - you can find this on the initdefault line of /etc/inittab) dave -- | oOOooO / --|oOobodoO/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] --| ooOoOo / | II / The wise man tells you where you have fallen | II / and where you may fall - Invaluable secrets.
Re: Banner
A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said... > I have Debian (slink) installed in a Packard Bell, and I want to get rid > of the Packard Bell banner that shows up at the beginning, when it is > rebooted. I would like to replace it with the Debian logo, or the Linux > penguin may be. How do I do it? That, I'm afraid, can't be done without replacing the BIOS (the stuff that's on the motherboard), which not something for the faint of heart. -- -- Phil Brutsche [EMAIL PROTECTED] "There are two things that are infinite; Human stupidity and the universe. And I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
Re: Newbie Non-FAQ(I think) questions
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > APPS and GAMES: > - > Quake / QuakeWorld -- I'm guessing that the Linux build for these works on > the Debian distributionAny pointers? (Debian specific FAQ's) > Q3A > VisualStudio6.0 > Word 6.0 -- I've been told that StarOffice is pretty good? (Pros / > Cons please...) I've had very good success with Word Perfect 8. I've also seen numerous positive reports about Star Office, though I personally didn't like it. Currently I use Latex to do reports and essays. > Access > Excel > Photoshop 5.0 Gimp. > LightWave5.5 > 3DSMax > Director 6.0 > Palm Desktop > RioShell 3.0 Check http://www.world.co.uk/sba/index.htm for apps dealing with MP3 players. -- Mike Werner KA8YSD | "Where do you want to go today?" ICQ# 12934898 | "As far from Redmond as possible!" '91 GS500E| Morgantown WV | Only dead fish go with the flow.
