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Re: dselect and downloading kernel
On Mon, 15 Feb 1999, ktb wrote: > > Is there an easier way to do what I'm trying to do? This is my first > attempt at compiling a kernel. I thought I would go ahead and try 2.2.1 > instead of the one I have 2.0.34. It was my understanding that dselect > would download, place the new kernel in the right directory and take > care of some linkage issues. Anyway if this can't be done I think I'll > just stick to the kernel I have for the time being. dselect only understands Debian packages, I don't think ftp.kernel.org has any Debian packages. So it's just getting thoroughly confused by what you're doing. You need to download one of the Debian kernel-source packages from ftp.debian.org or a mirror. Havoc
is there a trick to removing emacs?
I want to remove all the emacs stuff and use vim as my editor. Can I safely remove emacs without doing something special first? thanks -- Andrew
Curious Question.
Just how closely does Linux match with Unix? If I know Linux and sitdown in front of a Unix terminal am I just going to notice a few differences (ie file locations and a couple of commands) or am I going to be lost? I think I already know the answer but would like confirmation. Thanks. --Dano
Re: dselect and downloading kernel
Havoc Pennington wrote: > On Mon, 15 Feb 1999, ktb wrote: > > > > Is there an easier way to do what I'm trying to do? This is my first > > attempt at compiling a kernel. I thought I would go ahead and try 2.2.1 > > instead of the one I have 2.0.34. It was my understanding that dselect > > would download, place the new kernel in the right directory and take > > care of some linkage issues. Anyway if this can't be done I think I'll > > just stick to the kernel I have for the time being. > > dselect only understands Debian packages, I don't think ftp.kernel.org has > any Debian packages. So it's just getting thoroughly confused by what > you're doing. You need to download one of the Debian kernel-source > packages from ftp.debian.org or a mirror. OK I took a look at ftp.debian.org and I see no kernel package. Where would I find a deb 2.2.1 package? I found a kernel package at ftp://ftp.netgod.net/linux/v2.2/ but can dselect can't handle this? I've looked all over the debian site, I can't believe it isn't listed there. Thanks, Kent
Re: Curious Question.
Dan Willard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | Just how closely does Linux match with Unix? If I know Linux and sitdown | in front of a Unix terminal am I just going to notice a few differences (ie | file locations and a couple of commands) or am I going to be lost? I think | I already know the answer but would like confirmation. Thanks. Almost without exception Unix is Unix at the user level, especially basic commands and tools, e.g., ls, df, du, awk, grep, etc. Things can vary more at sys admin level though. For example, even among Linux distributions there's the variation in "init", with some distros using SYSV and others using BSD style init schemes. Even at this level though there's usually a root commonality. For example I don't think I've ever run across a Unix system that didn't use /etc/passwd. Even with this variation at the sys admin level, once you've learned one flavor of Unix it's much easier to become familiar with a different flavor. Gary
Re: Curious Question.
I am not sure that's always true; try looking at addgroup in redhat and addgroup in debian. Or the different choices UID's, or file placement. Enough that I rather dislike distro hopping. /Blatant Debian plug/ Also I almost alway agree with Debian's file placement. *--* Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *--* Voice: 425.739.4247 *--* Fax: 425.827.9577 *--* HTTP://www.otak-k.com/~lawrence/ -- - - - - - - O t a k i n c . - - - - - On 15 Feb 1999, Gary L. Hennigan wrote: > Dan Willard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > | Just how closely does Linux match with Unix? If I know Linux and sitdown > | in front of a Unix terminal am I just going to notice a few differences (ie > | file locations and a couple of commands) or am I going to be lost? I think > | I already know the answer but would like confirmation. Thanks. > > Almost without exception Unix is Unix at the user level, especially > basic commands and tools, e.g., ls, df, du, awk, grep, etc. Things can > vary more at sys admin level though. For example, even among Linux > distributions there's the variation in "init", with some distros using > SYSV and others using BSD style init schemes. Even at this level > though there's usually a root commonality. For example I don't think > I've ever run across a Unix system that didn't use /etc/passwd. > > Even with this variation at the sys admin level, once you've learned > one flavor of Unix it's much easier to become familiar with a > different flavor. > > Gary > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null > >
Re: dselect and downloading kernel
"ktb" == ktb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: ktb> OK I took a look at ftp.debian.org and I see no kernel package. ktb> Where would I find a deb 2.2.1 package? I found a kernel package ktb> at ftp://ftp.netgod.net/linux/v2.2/ but can dselect can't handle ktb> this? I've looked all over the debian site, I can't believe it ktb> isn't listed there. Thanks, Kent To install a individually, use dpkg --install. Dselect can only install from complete archives. We'll put a kernel-image-2.2.2 in potato once slink is released, which is just under 13 days away. I assume you'll all be at the mandatory IRC party? :-) - PGP E4 70 6E 59 80 6A F5 78 63 32 BC FB 7A 08 53 4C __ _Debian GNU Johnie Ingram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> mm mm / /(_)_ __ _ ___ __ www.netgod.net irc.debian.org mm mm / / | | '_ \| | | \ \/ / m m m / /__| | | | | |_| |> < World Domination, of course. mm mm \/_|_| |_|\__,_/_/\_\ And scantily clad females. GO BLUE
Re: is there a trick to removing emacs?
On Mon, 15 Feb 1999, Pollywog wrote: > I want to remove all the emacs stuff and use vim as my editor. > Can I safely remove emacs without doing something special first? > You can safely remove any Debian package, just type dpkg --remove emacs20 (or the name of whichever Emacs flavor you've installed). If the removal is unsafe, dpkg will refuse to perform it and tell you what's wrong. Then you'll want to address the problem. (Do NOT use the --force options to dpkg, that overrides the safety and will hose things.) Havoc
wannabe newbie
Hi, I've been running Red Hat 5.2 for a while and now want to try out Debian. To that end, I purchased the user guide which came with 2.0 cd. I am installing on a ThinkPad 600. I can boot from the CD. However, when Linux loads, the machine hangs. I really don't want to the 9 floppy disk thing, but do have a fast network connection and working rh config.) Any ideas appreciated. Thanks, Spencer
boot parameters
Hello: I would like to go to debian from my present redhat 5.1 system. I have an Adaptec 2920 controller and a Seagate ST-34555N disk. Both of these may require some parameters at the boot prompt . My question is, given that I am now using linux, how can I find out what those parameters should be? For the controller I think I need iobase(?), irq(?), scsi-id (=0), and reconnect (?). For the disk I need mbm-base(?) and irq(?). So I now only know one out of the six parameters. Can you help, please?
apm (was: Re: Do you still need screensavers these days?)
On Mon, Feb 01, 1999 at 07:10:39PM +, Allens wrote: > You have got to recompile the kernel, and enable apm support. > > Peter Allen > > Shao Zhang wrote: > > > > On Sun, 31 Jan 1999, Carl Fink wrote: > > > > > With modern power-saving BIOSes, the thing can even turn the monitor > > > off (and power down the computer) if you've been away too long, saving > > > electricity and wear on your system. > > > > Great! This is what I did in Windoze. But how do I do it in Linux? > > Is there any kind of software that does this?? > > Hmmm, this thread died without answering the question I was lurking to listen for. I have apmd up and running but can't figure out how to make it go to sleep on a schedule. Winblows had (has, presumably) a place where you could just say "go to sleep after n minutes." Is there a place where I could configure this in debian? Would I have to reboot and enable a timeout in my BIOS? (it is currently enabled with a timeout of 0 as per debian install instructions from way back in October.) Or is there some reason why I don't want to use apm for this but some other better faster smarter cheaper etc. program to which someone will direct me? Thanks, Rob -- "Eat, drink, and be merry, for tomorrow you may work."
Re: boot parameters
On Mon, 15 Feb 1999, Phil Reardon wrote: > Hello: I would like to go to debian from my present redhat 5.1 system. > I have an Adaptec 2920 controller and a Seagate ST-34555N disk. Both of > these may require some parameters at the boot prompt . My question is, > given that I am now using linux, how can I find out what those > parameters should be? For the controller I think I need iobase(?), > irq(?), scsi-id (=0), and reconnect (?). For the disk I need > mbm-base(?) and irq(?). So I now only know one out of the six > parameters. Can you help, please? cat /etc/lilo.conf I'm not sure what the exact line is, I think it's append= or something, but it'll be pretty obvious if you already know what to look for, and it sounds like you do. good luck -Dano
Re: boot parameters
On Mon, 15 Feb 1999, Phil Reardon wrote: > Daniel J. Brosemer wrote: > > cat /etc/lilo.conf > > > > I'm not sure what the exact line is, I think it's append= or something, > > but it'll be pretty obvious if you already know what to look for, and it > > sounds like you do. > > > This is what I got from cat /etc/lilo.conf: > > boot=/dev/sda > map=/boot/map > install=/boot/boot.b > prompt > timeout=50 > image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.0.34-1 > label=linux > root=/dev/sda2 > initrd=/boot/initrd-2.0.34-1.img > read-only > > Still need help I guess. Phil Reardon Ok, I'm not sure what that initrd line is. I've never seen it before, and it's not in the lilo.conf(5) manpage. Strings it, and see if it has the parameters you're looking for, though I doubt it. More likely would be that you're not actually passing the parameters to the kernel, but to modules. I'm not sure if redhat uses an /etc/modules like debian, and I don't have a redhat system anymore to check for you. Look for this, though, it's just a list of modules the kernel loads at boot time and their parameters. Hope this helps. -Dano
Re: Curious Question
I have at various times in the past 2 years used or administered Linux, Solaris, Irix and HP-UX and I have found that there is little difference in file locations and a couple of commands from a user's perspective. The location of system files may be differ from BSD based systems to SysV based systems. However most of them can be located with man so you are unlikely to be lost. jmb Dan Willard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Just how closely does Linux match with Unix? If I know Linux and >sitdown in front of a Unix terminal am I just going to notice a few >differences (ie file locations and a couple of commands) or am I going >to be lost? I think I already know the answer but would like >confirmation. Thanks.
Re:Samba (or at least it was a while ago)
I seem to remember someone last week mentioning that they would like to create a 'dump' that people could write to but not view/retrieve. I might have stumbled across the answer, make the share directory's permissions write execute, and add the line create mode = 0222 in the smb.conf file. This should allow you to map a drive to the share and allow people to copy stuff into the directory but not see and retrieve (kinda like a roach motel). --Dano
running Exim with inetd / headder rewrite
First of all, thank you to everyone who sent help. I now only have (I hope)
2 problems.
I was wrong about using cron to start Exim daemon, the 2 ways that were
suggested to me were using init and using inetd.
Problem #1:
I found that using init overrides my security from hosts.deny and
hosts.allow, since these are used by inetd. The answer is to use Inetd to
call Exim on demand. After looking in my Inetd.conf file, I found the
following line commented out in the bottom of the file:
#smtpstreamtcp nowait root /usr/sbin/tcpd
/usr/sbin/in.smtpd (will be restored by smail postinstall)
I looked into it, there is no file /usr/sbin/in.smtpd ,after looking at
the man page for smail, I saw that smail -bs = in.smtpd ,so I figure
in.smtp was removed with smail. I looked in the Exim man page and found
that Exim -bs should work just like smail -bs, so I went up to the section
headed by the comment: #:Mail:
and entered the line:
smtp stream tcpnowait root /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/exim -bs
no good, I try telnet 127.0.0.1 25, get connection terminated
I remember this problem with smail by adding in hosts.allow:
in.smtp:127.0.0.1
I allowed smtp calls to port 25, fixed the problem (and I believe this is
the secure and proper way to do this {yes/no?}) So what's the deal? (I
included some details about my system at the bottom of this letter that may
help)
Problem #2:
I need to do address rewriting, I know this, from reading, making some
tests, and trying configuration changes suggested in responses to my last
mail. Basically here is what I want to happen:
if to:field is not TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
{
change from:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -> from:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
change the from field in the envelope the same way..
}
so from reading the Exim spec, I believe the rewrite rule is like this:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Ff
only problem is how do I get it to do this ONLY when the TO: field is not
local (IE [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ?
system stuff:
Debian 1.3.1 local host name: Zeek.org smarthost: Maine.edu
local users: root, ryder Mail name: Kryder71
Exim version: 1.61 #1 built 4-Mar-1997 Fetchmail version: 3.8 pl 0
.fetchmailrc: user kryder71 with pass is [EMAIL PROTECTED] here
thank's for any help / ideas / comments,
Ken
Re: apm (was: Re: Do you still need screensavers these days?)
On Mon, Feb 15, 1999 at 09:35:26PM -0500, Rob Mahurin wrote: > Hmmm, this thread died without answering the question I was lurking to > listen for. I have apmd up and running but can't figure out how to > make it go to sleep on a schedule. Winblows had (has, presumably) a > place where you could just say "go to sleep after n minutes." Is > there a place where I could configure this in debian? setterm(1) XF86Config(5) xset(1) -- G. Branden Robinson | Religion is something left over from the Debian GNU/Linux | infancy of our intelligence; it will [EMAIL PROTECTED] | fade away as we adopt reason and science cartoon.ecn.purdue.edu/~branden/ | as our guidelines. -- Bertrand Russell pgpkeDs2SJzVK.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: modem doesn't work at startup
Frankie wrote: > when I turn my computer on, and try to dial out (with xisp), it won't > connect. > As such xISP is hassle free and it dials out the first time upon configuration. Your problem may be with your modem initialization string or the correct serial port not being shown out to xISP. On what serial port do U have your modem connected ? What is the brand name of your modem, so that I can suggest a working Init string ? ragOO, VU2RGU. Keeping the Air-Waves FREE Amateur Radio Keeping the W W W FREE Debian GNU/Linux
x11amp not playing correctly
I installed x11amp, but it has a nasty problem. It "skips" when it plays, but consistenly. It's hard to describe, but imagine several, consistent but short-lived skips. The effect is such that it really slows down the music (because of the regular skipping). Sometimes it appears to skip twice as much (thus slowing play down by a factor of two). Note, however, that mpg123 plays mp3's perfectly; all other sound applications and such work fine (even SLab for multi-track, full-duplex recording!). mpg123 plays uninterrupted even while I have the rc5des program running. Note, also, I tried increasing the buffers in x11amp to ridiculously high amounts. On a similar, but related note: I installed x11amp via the Debian package, so that binary could be broken. That in mind, I tried compiling my own x11amp, but I can't get past the configure script because it says I don't have "thread-safe X libraries." I thought X on a libc6 system was automatically considered "thread-safe" (or something to that effect). Thanks, Matt -- Matt Garman, [EMAIL PROTECTED] "They're always havin' a good time down on the bayou, Lord, them delta women think the world of me." -- Dickey Betts, "Ramblin' Man"
Re: x11amp not playing correctly
Matt Garman wrote: > > I installed x11amp, but it has a nasty problem. It "skips" when it > plays, but consistenly. It's hard to describe, but imagine several, > consistent but short-lived skips. The effect is such that it really > slows down the music (because of the regular skipping). Sometimes it > appears to skip twice as much (thus slowing play down by a factor of > two). This is fixed in the newest version on their web site, not yet debianized. The old version just uses way to much cpu time. -- see shy jo
Re: apm (was: Re: Do you still need screensavers these days?)
On Mon, Feb 15, 1999 at 11:03:24PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > On Mon, Feb 15, 1999 at 09:35:26PM -0500, Rob Mahurin wrote: > > Hmmm, this thread died without answering the question I was lurking to > > listen for. I have apmd up and running but can't figure out how to > > make it go to sleep on a schedule. Winblows had (has, presumably) a > > place where you could just say "go to sleep after n minutes." Is > > there a place where I could configure this in debian? > > setterm(1) > XF86Config(5) > xset(1) > These all allow you to blank the screen and shut down the monitor. I'm trying find a way to set a similar sort of timeout and issue an "apm --suspend" so that the power light on my box blinks. I'm sorry if that wasn't clear ... or am I missing something obvious? Rob -- Peace is much more precious than a piece of land... let there be no more wars. -- Mohammed Anwar Sadat, 1918-1981
modem configuration..
> >Hello, > > I've installed LINUX (debian 2.0.2) on my IBM 240 E pc. LINUX is > unable to sense the built in modem. PC has Rockwell HCF 56K > modem at IRQ 4 on COM1. It works fine with Windows. I tried > editing /etc/rc.boot/0serial script with various parameters. > Whenever I run 'wvdialconf /dev/wvdial.conf' it is unable to > find the modem. > > Any help will be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks, > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: wannabe newbie
On 15 Feb 1999, Spencer Marks wrote: I'm writing to you from my second installation on an i586. I didn't have the cd so I downloaded everything and copied to an msdos partition. I got all the *1440.bin files but I booted successfully both times having the base2_0.tgz file on a msdos partition. That way you only have to download resc1440.bin and drv1440.bin and make two floppies. (you read how to do that?)assuming there is a base2_0.tgz on the cd you can copy to /dev/hda1 or wherever. It took me a while to figure out how to find the partition in the dinstall program and you have to remember to mount it. I guess its pretty frustrating the cd won't run; A little creativity with the installation should do the trick. ac > Hi, > > I've been running Red Hat 5.2 for a while and now want to try out > Debian. > > To that end, I purchased the user guide which came with 2.0 cd. > > I am installing on a ThinkPad 600. I can boot from the CD. However, > when Linux loads, the machine hangs. > > I really don't want to the 9 floppy disk thing, > but do have a fast network connection and working rh config.) > > Any ideas appreciated. > > Thanks, Spencer > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null > >
Re: RealTek 8029 PCI pnp Ethernet card
On Mon, Feb 15, 1999 at 11:56:07AM -0600, David Webster wrote: > Any guesses as to what driver to use for this card since it is not > directly supported? I have two servers with Realtek 8029-based PCI cards which work fine. I use the ne2k-pci module (in 2.0.34 or better). It works fine. One of the machines (a 486) has been up 250 days. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3TYD [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org
Re: Curious Question.
On Mon, Feb 15, 1999 at 05:02:04PM -0800, Lawrence Walton wrote: > I am not sure that's always true; try looking at addgroup in redhat and > addgroup in debian. Or the different choices UID's, or file placement. > Enough that I rather dislike distro hopping. > > /Blatant Debian plug/ > Also I almost alway agree with Debian's file placement. That's because we comply with the File System Standard, which is a sensible document. I thought Red Hat used it too. The biggest differences between Unix platforms is to the programmer. You should think of Linux as Unix -- when people claim "Linux is not Unix", it's because (a) Linux was written from scratch and not based on the Unix source code, and (b) they're snobs. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3TYD [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org
accessing debian from an hpterm
I have an HP-UX workstation where I work; if I connect to my Debian box using an hpterm window, the terminal emulation is appalling. Arrow keys don't work for command line history (but it looks like hpterm isn't actually sending anything to the telnet session; and I don't use the arrow keys normally in an hpterm because the only decent shell on our system is ksh with vi editing :-) Also, ls thinks it can do colour, which doesn't work. Any program which sets bold ends up setting reverse video instead. I copied the hp-ux (10.20) terminfo definition across but it didn't help. Works okay if I use an xterm on HP-UX, but I prefer hpterms. Anyone? Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3TYD [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5 CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome. http://hamish.home.ml.org
xdm & kdm
Hi, I want to run xdm on vt7, and kdm on vt8. So how do I do it? Also, how do I force all my users to use /etc/X11/Xsession, rather than ~/.xsession?? Thanks. shao.
Re: NE2000 PCI Card
The NE2000 PCI-module is probing a number of addresses, make sure that your card is configured for one of those addresses. This can probably be done with the DOS-program (sorry) you have got with your card, Joop
Re: Network doesn't work
Mitch Blevins wrote: > I saw that. It works great. My network is running wonderfully now (as to the Linux nodes). I just need to get my windows box to hear my 3Com card, and I'm in business. > In foo.debian-user, you wrote: > > AAAH!!! > > > > Well I made it back from Frye's and bought a Netgear Fast > > Ethernet NIC, a Netgear Fast Ethernet Hub, and I'm still > > using the Linksys pcmcia fast ethernet NIC for my laptop. > > > > I recompiled my desktop kernel to recognize the Tulip module > > for the new NIC. It was detected, etc. I ifconfiged (I > > think correctly because no errors). Now when I telnet from > > my laptop to my desktop, I get 100% packet loss. When I > > switch the configuration back to the way it was it ranges > > from between 88% and 97% packet loss. > > > > Do I go buy new cables now? Is there a way to fix this. > > Thanks everyone. Happy Valentine's Day. > > The newer NetGear cards ship with a floppy that contains their > own version of tulip.c which is not necessarily the same tulip.c > that is included in your kernel tarball. > > Replace the tulip.c in the kernel tree with the one included on > the floppy and recompile, reboot, etc. > Maybe that will work. > > -Mitch > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null `` -- NatePuri Certified Law Student & Debian GNU/Linux Monk McGeorge School of Law [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ompages.com Receive my PGP Public Key from http://www.pgp.com/
Re: SLRN woes
On 15 Feb 1999q, Victor Torrico wrote: > Quoting Anthony Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > It's not peculiar to the potato version. I get the same thing in hamm. I've > > had to download the "active" file separately and abstract the entries I > > need. > > > > Anthony > > > > How do you download the "active" file? This is the first time I'm using > a news client such as SLRN. Thanks for your kind help. > > Victor > On my ISP (Demon) the file is available for download on their ftp site. I don't know if other ISPs do the same thing. Anthony -- Anthony Campbell - running Linux Debian 2.0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.achc.demon.co.uk "The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ, Moves on..." - Edward Fitzgerald (Rubaiat of Omar Khayyam)
XFree86 is 3.3.3.
Hi, Does anyone know if XFree86 is 3.3.3.x is avaliable in deb format anywhere? Or when we will have one avaliable? Regards Graham
dselect dependencies w/ install of frozen
Hi there - I am trying to install libc6 and libc6-dev on a machine w/ slink, but I am having trouble with getting the package dependencies to work out. In particular, it looks like libc6-dev requires that libc6 be exactly the same version (2.0.7t-1)... however my libc6 is newer than that (2.0.7.19981211-2) and so dselect does not let me install libc6-dev, which also means that I cannot install any packages which require libc6-dev. Can anyone give me some advice? I apologize in advance if this is a silly question to be asking. Thanks, Brian
Re: pine4.deb?
On Mon, 15 Feb 1999, Pete wrote: > anyway, if anyone knows of such a package, i'd much appreciate it if they > could point me in the proper direction. I couldn't find one either, so I downloaded the RedHat RPM and converted it over with alien. Installation went fine and pine works great. You can do the same, or I can upload the .deb file (1.3 megs) to a site for you to download. I also just switched to Debian from Slackware (a few days ago), and I am very happy with it! :^) Jeremy --- email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp key : http://www.blueriver.net/~darqside/pgpkey.asc
Re: XFree86 is 3.3.3.
Graham Lillico +44 1785 782329 wrote: > Does anyone know if XFree86 is 3.3.3.x is avaliable in deb format > anywhere? Or when we will have one avaliable? It will not be in the distribution till the maintainer of the X11 Debian packages feels comfortable about the current (3.3.2) packages. Anyways, if you need specific support for a chipset, which is supported in 3.3.3 though not in 3.3.2, you're encouraged to download just the binary X/Windows server from an xfree86.org mirror. Adjust /etc/X11/Xserver and your 3.3.2 X/Windows systsem will work together with your 3.3.3 server. HTH, -Remco
RE: DSelect and ftp
Jiri Baum wrote: Ah, you have a cable modem... and if it's not really Hayes-compatible, you'll probably need to adjust the "chat script" that pon is using (most likely in /etc/chatscripts/ ). IT WORKS! I noticed that the modem returns NO CARRIER quite often in minicom. I removed abort on "NO CARRIER" from the chatscript and it works, using pon. Thanks Jiri, and thanks to all other people who helped solving my problem through this list. I hope this is the last e-mail I send using m$-windows. Once you get PPP up and running, that should solve the dselect problem. As for the connection from minicom, minicom doesn't set it up as a network. I think there *is* a way to hand it over from minicom to ppp, but I'm not sure how, because I've never tried it. I assume one would quit out of minicom using the `do not hang up' option, log in as root, and then do "pppd /dev/ttyS0" (or ttyS1). Somebody else actually tried it? HTH Jiri -- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> We'll know the future has arrived when every mailer transparently quotes lines that begin with "From ", but no-one remembers why. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: NE2000 PCI Card
On Tue, 16 Feb 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > The NE2000 PCI-module is probing a number of addresses, > make sure that your card is configured for one of those addresses. > This can probably be done with the DOS-program (sorry) you have got > with your card, Joop Is the necessary information to write code under Linux to set the card's irq, addresses etc available? I suppose one could do a (possibly illegal) disassembly of the DOS code, to find that information -- unless one can get that information from the card manufacturer. --David Teague [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU/Linus: Because reboots are for hardware upgrades.
Problems with Crypto++ in debian
Hi! Did anybody succeeded to compile the free cryptographic C++ library Crypto++ 3.0 (ftp://ftp.task.gda.pl/mirror/ftp.hacktic.nl/pub/replay/pub/crypto/LIBS/cryptolib/crypto30.zip) in debian hamm linux? The egcs-2.90.29 fails to compile it. Maybe it is the result of egcs's namespaces problem? TIA Wojtek Zabolotny [EMAIL PROTECTED] PS. Below are the error messages I've got: c++ -O2 -c test.cpp pubkey.h: In method `void SignerTemplate::Sign(class RandomNumberGenerator &, class HashModule *, unsigned char *) const': In file included from pkcspad.h:5, from rsa.h:4, from test.cpp:17: pubkey.h:237: parse error before `>' pubkey.h: In method `bool VerifierTemplate::Verify(class HashModule *, const unsigned char *) const': pubkey.h:248: parse error before `>' pubkey.h: In method `void SignerWithRecoveryTemplate::Sign(class RandomNumberGenerator &, class HashModule *, unsigned char *) const': pubkey.h:299: parse error before `>' pubkey.h: In method `bool VerifierWithRecoveryTemplate::Verify(class HashModule *, const unsigned char *) const': pubkey.h:310: parse error before `>' pubkey.h: In method `unsigned int VerifierWithRecoveryTemplate::PartialRecover(class HashModule *, unsigned char *) const': pubkey.h:327: parse error before `>' test.cpp: At top level: test.cpp:208: confused by earlier errors, bailing out make: *** [test.o] Error 1
Re: xdm & kdm
Hello, == > I want to run xdm on vt7, and kdm on vt8. So how do I do it? I do not remember quite exactly the process how I managed to do it, but it worked ... Well, you have to set up two independent directories - /etc/X11/xdm and /etc/X11/kdm (you can copy /etc/X11/xdm to /etc/X11/kdm). Then, in each one, in the file Xservers set the proper display for particular manager, like this: /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers : :0 frcatel local /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 vt7 /etc/X11/kdm/Xservers : :1 frcatel local /usr/X11R6/bin/X :1 vt8 Then rename the file xdm-config to kdm-config (in etc/X11/kdm) and edit it, you have to change paths from /etc/X11/xdm to /etc/X11/kdm. Then, copy /etc/init.d/xdm to /etc/init.d/kdm and edit it. In /etc/init.d/kdm replace the contents of variables $DAEMON and $PIDFILE with proper values (DAEMON=/usr/local/kde/bin/kdm or so, PIDFILE=/var/run/kdm.pid). There is a very important thing - you have to tell kdm it should read its config files from /etc/X11/kdm. You can do it by passing the argument -config /etc/X11/kdm config to kdm when launching. In the /etc/X11/kdm file you'll find this line: start-stop-daemon --start --quiet --exec $DAEMON Change it to this: start-stop-daemon --start --quiet --exec $DAEMON -- -config /etc/X11/kdm/kdm-config (carefully about line breaks) Save the /etc/X11/kdm . As the last thing, issue the command update-rc.d kdm defaults 99 01 so that the kdm will be launched every time the computer starts. > Also, how do I force all my users to use /etc/X11/Xsession, rather > than ~/.xsession?? Hmmm - they already use it, don't they? How do you know they aren't using it? But if you want to prohibit users from using their own .xsession (although this is not a very good idea IMHO), comment the line allow-user-xsession in /etc/X11/config file. All the very best, Peter -- * * Peter Paluch * * Kukucinova 939/35 * * 024 01 Kysucke Nove Mesto * * Slovakia, Europe * * - * * mobil: +905 16 44 32 * * domov: +421 826 421 2542 * *
Re: XFree86 is 3.3.3.
Hello, == > Graham Lillico +44 1785 782329 wrote: > > Does anyone know if XFree86 is 3.3.3.x is avaliable in deb format > > anywhere? Or when we will have one avaliable? > > It will not be in the distribution till the maintainer of the X11 Debian > packages feels comfortable about the current (3.3.2) packages. I think this is a problem because version 3.3.2.x is not ready for internationalization. I am publishing some articles in one Slovak PC magazine but I have to use M$ Windows when writing those articles for 3 reasons: 1.) There is not even one (!) word processor which is able to export the documents in MS Office97 format and is working properly with Slovak locale in XWin. 2.) I can't use TeX or similar because in that PC magazine they're using just MS products. 3.) I was unable to set up Slovak keyboard properly. I downloaded XWin 3.3.3. sources and compiled it and it worked with the same settings and same keyboard flawlessly! A friend of mine, using RedHat 5.2, laughed at me when I told him that we in Debian do not have even 3.3.3 when there is 3.3.3.1 out! I felt that time very uncomfortable. So until XWin 3.3.3.x appears in Debian distribution East-Europeans will have big problems getting their international support and locales working in XWin and I think it is a big pitty. I am, truly said, angry about it. Just explaining my feelings, please do not take it as offence. I simply can't stand the feeling that Linux can't do something that Windows can. I understand it is not so easy to administer and package such huge thing as XWindow, however, this disfunctionality should be at least treated as bug. So? Peter Paluch -- * * Peter Paluch * * Kukucinova 939/35 * * 024 01 Kysucke Nove Mesto * * Slovakia, Europe * * - * * mobil: +905 16 44 32 * * domov: +421 826 421 2542 * *
pine 4.1 on debian slink
There is a termcap compatibility lib in the old libraries section of slink packages which has the termcaplib and a termcap file. I installed that and then the downloaded the linux binaries from the pine homepage. Pine 4.10 works on my slink system cheers Matt Cocker
Re: modem configuration..
Hello, == > > I've installed LINUX (debian 2.0.2) on my IBM 240 E pc. LINUX is > > unable to sense the built in modem. PC has Rockwell HCF 56K > > modem at IRQ 4 on COM1. It works fine with Windows. I tried > > editing /etc/rc.boot/0serial script with various parameters. > > Whenever I run 'wvdialconf /dev/wvdial.conf' it is unable to > > find the modem. I think it is an PnP modem, isn't it? If it is ISA modem (or a modem internally connected to ISA bus), then try the isapnptools package - with pnpdump command you can dump all the configuration information, save it to a file, edit it so there will be only one setting for each resource, and then run isapnp with that file (or put it to /etc/isapnp.conf). If you need help with it, I'll be pleased to help (then please mail me directly, not to this list). If it is PCI modem (or connected to PCI bus), then I can't help now, because I have no information about how to start PCI PnP devices. What works in Win, doesn't have to work in Linux. Especially devices with logo "Designed for Windows95" are big trouble. All the very best, Peter -- * * Peter Paluch * * Kukucinova 939/35 * * 024 01 Kysucke Nove Mesto * * Slovakia, Europe * * - * * mobil: +905 16 44 32 * * domov: +421 826 421 2542 * *
Re: dselect and downloading kernel
On Mon, 15 Feb 1999, ktb wrote: > > > Havoc Pennington wrote: > > > On Mon, 15 Feb 1999, ktb wrote: > > > > > > Is there an easier way to do what I'm trying to do? This is my first > > > attempt at compiling a kernel. I thought I would go ahead and try 2.2.1 > > > instead of the one I have 2.0.34. It was my understanding that dselect > > > would download, place the new kernel in the right directory and take > > > care of some linkage issues. Anyway if this can't be done I think I'll > > > just stick to the kernel I have for the time being. > > > > dselect only understands Debian packages, I don't think ftp.kernel.org has > > any Debian packages. So it's just getting thoroughly confused by what > > you're doing. You need to download one of the Debian kernel-source > > packages from ftp.debian.org or a mirror. > > OK I took a look at ftp.debian.org and I see no kernel package. Where > would I find a deb 2.2.1 package? I found a kernel package at > ftp://ftp.netgod.net/linux/v2.2/ but can dselect can't handle this? > I've looked all over the debian site, I can't believe it isn't listed > there. Thanks, Kent It is in unstable (maybe frozen--it's supposed to be part of 2.1, kernel-source only). You can just download the kernel-source package and install it with dselect. If you get it from ftp.kernel.org (as I did), I'd recommend putting it in /usr/local/src with 'tar xvf'. In either case, make-kpkg will handle it. Bob Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ AMPRnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DM42nh http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen
Re: Can't Mount a Zip Drive
Hi, I have a SCSII zip installed on a hamm system. During boot with no disk in the drive I get the following messages: aha152x: processing commandline: ok aha152x: BIOS test: passed, detected 1 controller(s) aha152x0: vital data: PORTBASE=0x140, IRQ=11, SCSI ID=7, reconnect=enabled, parity=enabled, synchronous=disabled, delay=100, extended translation=disabled aha152x: trying software interrupt, ok. scsi0 : Adaptec 152x SCSI driver; $Revision: 1.18 $ scsi : 1 host. Vendor: IOMEGAModel: ZIP 100 Rev: E.08 Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 Detected scsi removable disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 5, lun 0 scsi : detected 1 SCSI disk total. sda : READ CAPACITY failed. sda : status = 0, message = 00, host = 0, driver = 28 sda : extended sense code = 2 sda : block size assumed to be 512 bytes, disk size 1GB. You have not provided any details about your system setup, so it is hard to give you specific directions. It does appear that something is not quite right with your kernel/module setup and the scsi card is not detected. The how-to instuctions provide details on how this should be done. You will need to identify some parameters like irq, i/obase addressing and id for your scsi card. For normal dos/win formatted zip disks, you have to mount /dev/sda4, as this is the default used by iomega. Hope some of this helps and your not just trolling ...
Re: Installing DOS and ATAPI CD probs
> Else, since reinstallation the CDROM driver is not working well. It's and > OTI-HERMES ATAPI (primary slave) and during installation gave many errors > like: > hdb: irq timeout: status=0xd0 > hdb: ATAPI reset complete > > and I'm having a hard time to mount it or to run dselect with it. > I have the same error message. The computer is about 12 months old and only started displaying this message in the last month. The message is displayed during boot. Running badblocks repeatablely shows differing bad blocks for each run. I think there is some sort of start-up problem with the controller or hard disk. Currently I work around the problem by the following procedure: 1. Turn on the computer and observe the linux start-up 2. When the error is reported, push the reset button The second time linux boots up with no problems. I run NT on a partition and it is very distressed during boot-up also, so it's nothing to do with any debian/linux code. I have found some of the debian package setup files in /var have been corrupted by this problem. This weekend I plan to pull the machine to pieces and check all the hardware. Then I will try another hard drive. I may also try doing a low-level HD preformat via bios. The computer has a Gigabyte GA-586HX motherboard with onboard IDE controller. Using linux on my computer is a timebomb. I don't know which files are going to be corrupted next. If you make some progress, I will be interested to hear about it. Regard ...
Re: Sound configuration not in initial install
> David Webster wrote: > > > > Well Windows and OS/2 don't seem to have a problem with letting you > > configure your sound stuff right up front. How hard is it to add a > > sound item to modconf screen used in in the "Drivers Configuration" > > phase of the install?. Afterall, these drivers are all modules and each > > could have it's own documentation for configuring io, irq, dma, etc... > > if need be. We seem to have no trouble putting dozens of ethernet card > > configs in the "net" option. What makes sound so different? > I disagree with this statement. Installing support for a soundblaster awe32 card on NT is not done up-front. It has to be done after the system is installed and the correct drivers have been located on the internet. The NT boot disks do not have any support for sound cards. The NT CDROM only has a limited number of drivers available. I have to download drivers for my video card, sound card, printer and zip drive and install these manually after completing the initial installation. These drivers are not found on the Microsoft site either. At least with hamm I have everything on a single CDROM and don't require to download drivers/modules/kernels. The only real pain is re-linking the kernel first off. You can guess which system I find easier to install.
Re: CDROM trouble and Kernel message.
I saw a test patch on linux-kernel this morning, for what sounds like the same problem you're having. I'll take a look and see if I can find it again. On Mon, Feb 15, 1999 at 10:15:26PM +0100, Björn Elwhagen wrote: > Hello! > > I'm having some strange problems. I can't eject my CDROM even tho it's > unmounted according to mtab and all other places that i can think of. > The message i get is simply: > > 1 21:59:52 marwin $ cdctrl eject > cd_doEject[CDROMEJECT]: Device or resource busy > > Pressing the eject-button on the CD doesn't help either. > > If anyone has seen this behaviour b4 please let me know what's the > problem. I'm using kernel 2.2.1 and the SCSI-emulation code with a > ATAPI-drive. The problem were there with the native ATAPI-driver too so > it's not driver-specific AFAIK. > > A message that i get in my syslog that puzzles me too is this: > > Feb 10 06:29:15 arwen kernel: khm > > Why does this message show up? > > If anyoen can help solve at least the first problem i would be really > grateful. It's kinda annoying to have to reboot the freaking computer > every time i want to change CD... > > Regards > > // Marwin
Installazione di Debian
Come si esegue la partizione del disco rigido, senza cancellare dati utili gia' residenti? Grazie mille, Un nuovo utente di Linux Debian un po' confuso. Fabio [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Floppy Drive Alignment Software
Hi All, My 3.5 floppy is out of alignment, I know for other OSs there is software to help you align your drive is there any for Debian or Linux in general. thanks Rod
newest ncp
I am trying to use ncpmount to mount subdirectories on a Novell Netware server, but my current version of ncpfs only allows the mounting of volumes - not subdirectories. I was wondering if anyone knew if there was a newer version available that DOES allow you to mount a specific subdirectory? And if so, where to get it? Thanks, Ben [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[vim] :se num -> underlined numbers
I've got vim installed on both hamm and slink boxes, versions 5.0 and 5.3 of vim respectively, and use both from the same remote rxvt session. When I switch line numbering on in 5.0, everything looks fine. When I switch it on in 5.3, the line numbers themselves are underlined. It's really annoying. I've got syntax highlighting turned off. Can anybody suggest why line numbers are underlined in 5.3, but not in 5.0? I think it must be an entry in /etc/vimrc, but can't figure out which one. -- Graham
Acroread plugin crashes Netscape-4.5-libc6
Has anyone had any luck getting the Acrobat reader plugin to work in Netscape-4.5-libc6 packages? Without fail it crashes netscape. Thanks, -- Brian - "Never criticize anybody until you have walked a mile in their shoes, because by that time you will be a mile away and have their shoes." - unknown Mechanical Engineering[EMAIL PROTECTED] Purdue University http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis -
Re: XFree86 is 3.3.3.
Peter Paluch wrote: > 1.) There is not even one (!) word processor which is able to export the > documents in MS Office97 format and is working properly with Slovak locale > in XWin. You don't need to blame, nor Debian, nor Linux in general, that M$Office is being used at your office. If they want you to use M$Office (and apparently, they do), then blame your employer if you don't agree with him. This is nothing personal, but I see people pointing to that so-called disadvantage of the products current available on Linux platforms, but they're pointing to the wrong people. If someone wants to have a M$Office compatible thing on Linux, go out and write it. Don't blame others for not writing it. > 2.) I can't use TeX or similar because in that PC magazine they're using > just MS products. See above. > 3.) I was unable to set up Slovak keyboard properly. I downloaded XWin > 3.3.3. sources and compiled it and it worked with the same settings and same > keyboard flawlessly! > > A friend of mine, using RedHat 5.2, laughed at me when I told him that we in > Debian do not have even 3.3.3 when there is 3.3.3.1 out! I felt that time > very uncomfortable. There is no `competition' between RedHat and Debian on this point. If you feel better having the latest versions of software available, without caring about other things, I don't think Debian will suffice for you. Debian strives after other matters, like stability and security. I don't want to start another holy war, but Debian and RedHat just differ from each other on some points. > So until XWin 3.3.3.x appears in Debian distribution East-Europeans will > have big problems getting their international support and locales working in > XWin and I think it is a big pitty. I am, truly said, angry about it. Just > explaining my feelings, please do not take it as offence. I simply can't > stand the feeling that Linux can't do something that Windows can. > > I understand it is not so easy to administer and package such huge thing as > XWindow, however, this disfunctionality should be at least treated as bug. It is not a bug in 3.3.2, it is a feature in 3.3.3. So I don't agree with you. But I *do* see your point, and I'm sorry for you that it most likely won't be resolved in the upcoming (2.1, slink) Debian release. I don't know if your problem will be resolved if you put the latest X11 server (3.3.3.1) in place of your current X11 server, I doubt it. I think the 'bug' is in some library. You might want to checkout the 3.3.3.x X11 Debian packages when they are available for testing in the `potato' Debian archive. Regards, -Remco
Re: XFree86 is 3.3.3.
> > Graham Lillico +44 1785 782329 wrote: > > > Does anyone know if XFree86 is 3.3.3.x is avaliable in deb format > > > anywhere? Or when we will have one avaliable? As I understand it, you need to go to www.XFree.org, find the 3.3.3 server for your card, and copy it over the 3.3.2 server. I had to do that to get support for my video card, less serious than your concerns. I do hope this fixes your problem. --David Teague [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU/Linux powered. On Tue, 16 Feb 1999, Peter Paluch wrote: > Hello, > == > > > It will not be in the distribution till the maintainer of the X11 Debian > > packages feels comfortable about the current (3.3.2) packages. > > I think this is a problem because version 3.3.2.x is not ready for > internationalization. I am publishing some articles in one Slovak PC > magazine but I have to use M$ Windows when writing those articles for 3 > reasons: > > 1.) There is not even one (!) word processor which is able to export the > documents in MS Office97 format and is working properly with Slovak locale > in XWin. > 2.) I can't use TeX or similar because in that PC magazine they're using > just MS products. > 3.) I was unable to set up Slovak keyboard properly. I downloaded XWin > 3.3.3. sources and compiled it and it worked with the same settings and same > keyboard flawlessly! > A friend of mine, using RedHat 5.2, laughed at me when I told him that we in > Debian do not have even 3.3.3 when there is 3.3.3.1 out! I felt that time > very uncomfortable. > So until XWin 3.3.3.x appears in Debian distribution East-Europeans will > have big problems getting their international support and locales working in > XWin and I think it is a big pitty. I am, truly said, angry about it. Just > explaining my feelings, please do not take it as offence. I simply can't > stand the feeling that Linux can't do something that Windows can. > I understand it is not so easy to administer and package such huge thing as > XWindow, however, this disfunctionality should be at least treated as bug.
Which Kernal supports over 6.0 GB HD
I just bought a 6.4GB but Linux only reads it as 6.0GB, which Kernal do I need to get the full access Thanks.
RE: ISP connect
I have USED MSN untill recently. I found that I needed to give my user name in the following format: "MSN/user_name" (including the quotes for chatscript) This may help. Bill Bell >> I use the KDE window to configure dial-up settings. I have reconfigured the >> connect script to this: >> >> noauth. > >Should be fine > >> >> That is the only line in the script. I connect through MSN which requires a >> PAP login. I did not put a DNS number in hoping maybe it would configure >> this dynamically. The IP is set to dynamic negotiation. >> > >No, you need to enter the DNS, unless they use dhcp to give out DNS. > >> When it does connect initially, I get a terminal window asking for a login. >> I send my login name and then it asks for a password. I send that and it >> comes back with "bad password". >> >> Does anyone else connect their machine through MSN? If so, how'd you do it? >> > >Cant help much beyond that. __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: XFree86 is 3.3.3.
Hello again, > > 1.) There is not even one (!) word processor which is able to export the > > documents in MS Office97 format and is working properly with Slovak locale > > in XWin. > > You don't need to blame, nor Debian, nor Linux in general, that M$Office is > being used at your office. If they want you to use M$Office (and apparently, > they do), then blame your employer if you don't agree with him. No, no :) I do not blame anyone. I am just explaining the fact that there are maybe more than ten pretty interesting office packages, but neither one is suitable for me, because it is not properly prepared to work with locales. I know very good that Debian has nothing to do with this fact. I'd like to apologize if it seems that I am blaming Debian - I would never do that! > This is nothing personal, but I see people pointing to that so-called > disadvantage of the products current available on Linux platforms, but > they're pointing to the wrong people. If someone wants to have a M$Office > compatible thing on Linux, go out and write it. Don't blame others for not > writing it. The problem is that there are enough office packages with very interesting features, but they are simply not usable everywhere. If someone is doing some program (like word processor) under XWindow, why doesn't he make it locale-compliant, as every proper program should be done? I think if someone is going to make something, then he should do it either perfectly (at least try to do it so) or not at all. A half-done work is only problematic. My friends were willing to add international support to some office packages but they haven't received any answer. Have you seen some of those packages? They are using their own fonts, own keyboards, own extensions - they are apparently not using all the features and possibilities given by XWindow. I have a beautiful collection of fonts which contain characters from my native language but I can't use them! Look, I'd like to completely erase Win95 out of my hard disk, but I can't. I am permanently switching between Win95 and Linux and I hope you understand it is sometimes driving me crazy. > > A friend of mine, using RedHat 5.2, laughed at me when I told him that we in > > Debian do not have even 3.3.3 when there is 3.3.3.1 out! I felt that time > > very uncomfortable. > > If you > feel better having the latest versions of software available, without caring > about other things, I don't think Debian will suffice for you. I don't feel better having new things just for higher version numbers. I feel better having new things for having things finally running. By the way, I spoke to my RedHat-using friend just because he is very clever and I thought he would help me. He suggested installing newer version of XServer (that didn't help much, but showed an improvement). So I reinstalled whole XWindow 3.3.3 and it started to work. > strives after other matters, like stability and security. I don't want to > start another holy war, but Debian and RedHat just differ from each other on > some points. Neither do I. I agree. > It is not a bug in 3.3.2, it is a feature in 3.3.3. So I don't agree with > you. But I *do* see your point, and I'm sorry for you that it most likely > won't be resolved in the upcoming (2.1, slink) Debian release. I am not sure if Slink solves this - even in Potato there are still 3.3.2.x packages! > I don't know if your problem will be resolved if you put the latest X11 > server (3.3.3.1) in place of your current X11 server, I doubt it. I think > the 'bug' is in some library. Well, actually, I reinstalled only the server and main libraries and it didn't help. Now I recompiled the whole XWin and it works. I think I know where was the problem (I forgot to install new ISO8859-2 locale from 3.3.3). Again - I am terribly sorry if I offended someone. I didn't mean it so, indeed. You maybe don't see this event to be so serious than I see it, but in fact the present state doesn't allow me to use my native language on Linux. All the very best, Peter -- * * Peter Paluch * * Kukucinova 939/35 * * 024 01 Kysucke Nove Mesto * * Slovakia, Europe * * - * * mobil: +905 16 44 32 * * domov: +421 826 421 2542 * *
Libraries for Enlightenment
Hi, I downloaded enlightenment 0.14-6, enlightenment-docs, enlightenment-theme and econfigedit .deb packages. For the library requirements, I managed to find libesd0, libfnlib0, libpng2, libtiff3g, giflib3g (instead of libungif3g), and zlib1g 1.1.3-2. I haven't found imlib1, not even at debian's ftp site... where could I find it? does it belong to some other package? It is also required to have libc6 (>=2.0.7u), and I have libc6 2.0.7t-1 (hamm) installed instead. Will dpkg install and replace it, or could it mess up any of the already programs which depend on libc6 and are already installed? Also, it requires xlib6g (>=3.3-5), and I just managed to get an earlier versions (xlib6g 3.3.2.2-4)... or is it not? I used `dpkg -l | less' to see the installed libraries, is there another way to see if one of those libraries may belong to a different package? TIA -- Un saludo, Horacio [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Quis custodiet ipsos custodet? --
Re: newest ncp
Hello, == > I am trying to use ncpmount to mount subdirectories on a Novell > Netware server, but my current version of ncpfs only allows the > mounting of volumes - not subdirectories. I was wondering if > anyone knew if there was a newer version available that DOES allow > you to mount a specific subdirectory? And if so, where to get it? I am not sure if kernels 2.0.x allow this. You should definitely try 2.2.1, I've seen this support there. About that ncpfs, try from Slink. And have a look at http://www.SerNet.DE/vl/linux-lan/ . Peter Paluch
Problems compiling Sendmail 8.9.3
When I try to compile Sendmail 8.9.3 with the Berkley DB routines from sleepycat.com, I get two errors about unresolved externals. Can someone tell me what to try? -- Matthew D. Myers Catch me after work, I'll buy you a beer. - HL's Barney
"green" linux user needs CRON clarification
OK, I've been having problems understanding something. I'm new to debian, and I still cant figure this out about cron... I have read the man pages, but I'm still not clear. There is a filed called "crontab" in the "etc" directory. That is my "system wide" crontab. This file I am able to edit and modify... then there are crontab files in the "/var/spool/cron/crontabs" directory that are to be edited with the crontab command... The "crontab" file in the "etc" directory has a parameter called "user". and I use it to specify "root" because I need to schedule a job as root... I guess my question is: what is the difference between the two? and which one should I use? I need a program to run every 5 minutes to do some polling. and I want it to happen 24/7. Thanks! Will
Re: Curious Question.
Lawrence Walton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | I am not sure that's always true; try looking at addgroup in redhat and | addgroup in debian. Or the different choices UID's, or file placement. | Enough that I rather dislike distro hopping. | | /Blatant Debian plug/ | Also I almost alway agree with Debian's file placement. | On 15 Feb 1999, Gary L. Hennigan wrote: | | > Dan Willard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | > | Just how closely does Linux match with Unix? If I know Linux | > | and sitdown | > | in front of a Unix terminal am I just going to notice a few | > | differences (ie | > | file locations and a couple of commands) or am I going to be | > | lost? I think | > | I already know the answer but would like confirmation. Thanks. | > | > Almost without exception Unix is Unix at the user level, especially | > basic commands and tools, e.g., ls, df, du, awk, grep, etc. Things can | > vary more at sys admin level though. For example, even among Linux | > distributions there's the variation in "init", with some distros using | > SYSV and others using BSD style init schemes. Even at this level | > though there's usually a root commonality. For example I don't think | > I've ever run across a Unix system that didn't use /etc/passwd. | > | > Even with this variation at the sys admin level, once you've learned | > one flavor of Unix it's much easier to become familiar with a | > different flavor. Of course all the things you mention are sys admin type issues, and as I stated, such things do vary between different Unix variants and even between Linux distributions. I stand by my statement that, from a user perspective, Unix is pretty much Unix. I've had experience with Linux, HP-UX, IRIX, SunOS, Solaris, DEC OSF, Paragon OSF, QNX, AIX, BSD and probably some I've missed and never had any problem going from one to the other as a user. As a sys admin some of them gave me HUGE headaches they were so different, but not as a user. Still, learning admin issues on a new variant was much easier once I learned my first Unix system. Gary
RE: Which Kernal supports over 6.0 GB HD
Just a guess. I think it sees the whole thing. Disk drive makers sometimes use 1000bytes as 1k, whereas, most folks use 1024. The disk folks think 1,000,000,000 bytes is 1G. Others think 1,073,741,824 bytes is 1G. 6 x 1G = 6,442,459,944 bytes. Which 6.4G if you use the 1000 for 1k base. It depends on which def of 1k you use. I suspect the linux utilities use 1024=1k. Read the fine print to see what the drive manufacturer uses for 1k. jim >-- >From: Person, Roderick[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 1999 10:28 AM >To:'debian-user@lists.debian.org' >Cc:The recipient's address is unknown. >Subject: Which Kernal supports over 6.0 GB HD > >I just bought a 6.4GB but Linux only reads it as 6.0GB, which Kernal do I >need to get the full access > >Thanks. > > >-- >Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < >/dev/null > >
Re: Libraries for Enlightenment
Hello! == > I haven't found > imlib1, not even at debian's ftp site... where could I find it? does it > belong to some other package? You can find imlib in slink distribution, the graphics directory. > It is also required to have libc6 (>=2.0.7u), and I have libc6 2.0.7t-1 (hamm) > installed instead. Will dpkg install and replace it, or could it mess up > any of the already programs which depend on libc6 and are already installed? I think you can install newer libc6 without problems. > Also, it requires xlib6g (>=3.3-5), and I just managed to get an earlier > versions (xlib6g 3.3.2.2-4)... or is it not? Try it - I think that your version is sufficient. > I used `dpkg -l | less' to see the installed libraries, is there another way > to see if one of those libraries may belong to a different package? Maybe looking into Contents-i386.gz and searching a specific file. All the very best, Peter -- * * Peter Paluch * * Kukucinova 939/35 * * 024 01 Kysucke Nove Mesto * * Slovakia, Europe * * - * * mobil: +905 16 44 32 * * domov: +421 826 421 2542 * *
ATN: running Exim with inetd / headder rewrite
A problem occurred (on my system with Exim) that made some mail bounce (now fixed) and caused me to be removed from the list, right after I sent my message about Exim if anyone could forward their responses to my original mail "running Exim with inetd / headder rewrite" to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd appreciate it. TIA Ken
X won't load
I get the following messages when doing startx: -- X: exec of failed _X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno = 2 _X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno = 2 _X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno = 2 _X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno = 2 _X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno = 2 _X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno = 2 giving up. xinit: No such file or directory (errno 2) : unable to connect to X server xinit; No such process (errno 3): Server error. -- I have killed gpm and I have checked to see that all of the following are installed: makedev 1.6-32 ncurses-base1.9.9g-8.8 ncurses-bin 1.9.9g-8.8 ncurses-term1.9.9g-8.8 ncurses3.4 1.9.9g-8.8 ncurses3.4-dev 1.9.9g-8.8 xbase 3.3.2.2-4 xcolors 1.5-4.1 xcolorsel 1.1a-7 xcontrib3.3.1-2 xlib6 3.3.2.2-4 xlib6g 3.3.2.2-4 xlib6g-dev 3.3.2.2-4 xfntbase3.3.2.2-4 xfnt75 3.3.2.2-4 xfntpex 3.3.2.2-4 xfntscl 3.3.2.2-4 xpm-bin 3.4j-0.6 xpm-4g 3.4j-0.6 xpm-4g-dev 3.4j-0.6 xserver-vga16 3.3.2.2-4 xserver-S3 3.3.2.2-4 This is the X server for my computer. xserver-svga3.3.2.2-4 zlib1g 1.1.1-0.1 olvwm 4.1.3.2p1.4 olvm3.2p1.4-4 I have configured XF86Config with all the necessary parameters. The first line in /etc/X11/Xserver file is the complete path to the XServer (/usr/bin/X11/XF86_S3). I have also tried /usr/bin/X11/XF86_SVGA. SuperProbe identifies the video card as S3 Trio64. The monitor is a Sony 100sx and I have entered the correct parameters for it. I'm at my wit's end and would appreciate some help. Thanks in advance. David Bach Alternative Training (206) 662-0265 Building 7-251, Cube: 11J2-1 "Ignorance is becoming a matter of personal choice." -- Arun-Kumar Tripathi
filename conversion
hello everyone, i just uploaded some 800++ files to my debian box (from a windoze box) and found out that all filenames had been transformed to their uppercase equivalent ... anybody knows how do i convert all these files back to their lowercase equivalent while keeping the numbers and the dots intact ? TIA, chad
RE: Which Kernal supports over 6.0 GB HD
I don't think this is the case since this the drive is a Western Digital 26400 Caviar and it does report 6GB excatly it reports 6.14...GB > -- > From: Lewis, James M. [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 1999 10:56 AM > To: 'debian-user@lists.debian.org'; 'Person, Roderick' > Cc: 'The recipient's address is unknown.' > Subject: RE: Which Kernal supports over 6.0 GB HD > > Just a guess. I think it sees the whole thing. Disk drive makers > sometimes use 1000bytes as 1k, whereas, most folks use 1024. The disk > folks think 1,000,000,000 bytes is 1G. Others think 1,073,741,824 bytes > is 1G. 6 x 1G = 6,442,459,944 bytes. Which 6.4G if you use the 1000 > for 1k base. It depends on which def of 1k you use. I suspect the > linux utilities use 1024=1k. Read the fine print to see what the drive > manufacturer uses for 1k. > > jim > > >-- > >From:Person, Roderick[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Sent:Tuesday, February 16, 1999 10:28 AM > >To: 'debian-user@lists.debian.org' > >Cc: The recipient's address is unknown. > >Subject: Which Kernal supports over 6.0 GB HD > > > >I just bought a 6.4GB but Linux only reads it as 6.0GB, which Kernal do I > >need to get the full access > > > >Thanks. > > > > > >-- > >Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < > >/dev/null > > > > >
Re: XFree86 is 3.3.3.
Peter Paluch wrote: > Again - I am terribly sorry if I offended someone. I didn't mean it so, > indeed. You maybe don't see this event to be so serious than I see it, but > in fact the present state doesn't allow me to use my native language on > Linux. I didn't think you offended someone. At least you didn't offend me :) It was just that I'm seeing an ongoing stream of rants being thrown at the Linux community in general about this matter. And I thought this was a good time to tell the feelings I have about such rants. Sorry for being somewhat harsh towards you. Regards, -Remco
exmh broken again
grr. As of yestderday's updates to frozen, exmh seems to be broken
again. It gives an error of
invalid command name "Gpg_Init"
while executing
"Gpg_Init"
(procedure "Pgp_Init" line 157)
invoked from within
"Pgp_Init"
(procedure "Exmh" line 112)
invoked from within
"Exmh"
("after" script)
Does anyone know what the fix is?
Re: Which Kernal supports over 6.0 GB HD
On Tue, 16 Feb 1999, Person, Roderick wrote: > I just bought a 6.4GB but Linux only reads it as 6.0GB, which Kernal do I > need to get the full access Roderick: Are you sure that isn't an "Unformatted size"? I had that happen to me just recently: My HDD was advertised as a 10.4 gig drive, (they disn't say unformatted, but that is what it was. linux fdisk sees it as 9.5 gigs. Formatted capacity. David Teague [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian Gnu/Linus: Reboots are for hardware upgrades and new kernels.
Weird memory allocate problem
Hello -
I've been running Debian 2.0 on an HP Brio, PMMX166, 16 M RAM. This
morning I was greeted by a bizarre message when I tried to log in at the
console -- some of the messages flashed by too quickly b/c mingetty cleared
the screen, but there was a memory error for crypt, and after a few tried
the console was locked out ("respawning too fast") -- OK. I tried
telnetting to the machine and it wouldn't come up, so I decided the only
thing I knew to do would be to note the problem and restart it and see if
it got better. Ctrl-alt-del then gave the following errors, which I wrote
down:
/sbin/shutdown: error in loading shared libraries
libc.so.6: cannot map zero-fill pages: Cannot allocate memory
/sbin/mingetty: error in loading shared libraries
(last two lines repeated to fill most of the screen)
So, I just now power-cycled the machine, and
I hadn't actually logged onto this machine since last Friday, but another
user was on it yesterday, so I'm not at all sure when the problem could
have started. I'll have to ask him if he observed any odd behavior
yesterday. After starting the machine back up just now, it seems to be
operating normally again. The only log entries for today seem to be from a
cron job (checkerr ran at 6:42 and su'ed to both nobody and mail,
apparently) and to my failed attempt to log onto the machine just now.
I'm left wondering a few things:
(1) Could this be a hardware problem, perhaps with the RAM? I've had
misbehavior a couple of weeks back related to memory as well -- chmod was
SEGVing and an strace showed it dying in the low-level memory allocation.
Replacing the fileutils package got it working again, but two problems like
this make me really wonder.
(2) Could there be a memory leak or just not enough RAM/swap? The only
software other than the basics is apache and PHP3, but that should have
been quite idle all night since it's a development machine.
So does anyone here have any ideas?
Chris
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Re: Which Kernal supports over 6.0 GB HD
Hi folks, I may be missing the point here, but it looks to me that if you use the hdparm utility (DOS utility - you'll have to put it on a DOS boot floppy) to check the drive geometry as reported by the BIOS, then go to Linux and check that fdisk uses the same geometry parameters, you can verify that your linux isn't missing any part of your disk. Right ? Hope this helps. Ph. A. -- //\\ \\// ///\\\ SCITEX /*-*/ /* Scitex Europe, S.A. | Philippe Andersson */ /* Dreve Richelle, 161, E-F,| PC & Network Specialist */ /* 1410 WATERLOO| [EMAIL PROTECTED]*/ /* BELGIUM | +32-2-352.25.93 Fax: +32-2-352.25.84 */ /*-*/
hiding sterr
Hi all How do I hide error messages displaying on the console? I'm trying to set up IPX and whenever I get it wrong the screen is flooded with error messages I don't know how to redirect them to either a file or /dev/null. Any suggestions would be helpful thanks
Re: Problems compiling Sendmail 8.9.3
On Tue, 16 Feb 1999, Matthew Myers wrote: > When I try to compile Sendmail 8.9.3 with the Berkley DB routines from > sleepycat.com, I get two errors about unresolved externals. Can someone > tell me what to try? My first suggestion (if this is for i386) would be to just get the .deb and install it. If you need to compile, get the Debian source package, extract it and make whatever changes you deem necessary and then use the debian/rules file for the build. If you find you do need to make changes, please send them and a note to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Rick Nelson C:\WINDOWS C:\WINDOWS\GO C:\PC\CRAWL
dmesg: What file?
Hi: I was under the impression that the command dmesg just typed out the contents of /var/log/kern.log. This does not seem to be true. What is the file which dmesg is displaying? Sebastian Canagaratna Department of Chemistry Ohio NOrthern University Ada, OH 45810
RE: Which Kernal supports over 6.0 GB HD
If I get what your saying here. Linux does report the correct heads,sectors, cylinders as the manufacture claims are on the disk. But it only reports 6.1GB FDISK sees only this too. Rod > -- > From: Philippe Andersson[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 1999 12:00 PM > To: Debian User mailing list > Subject: Re: Which Kernal supports over 6.0 GB HD > > Hi folks, > > I may be missing the point here, but it looks to me that if you use the > hdparm utility (DOS utility - you'll have to put it on a DOS boot > floppy) to check the drive geometry as reported by the BIOS, then go to > Linux and check that fdisk uses the same geometry parameters, you can > verify that your linux isn't missing any part of your disk. Right ? > > Hope this helps. > > Ph. A. > > -- > > > >//\\ >\\// > ///\\\ > SCITEX > >/*-*/ >/* Scitex Europe, S.A. | Philippe Andersson */ >/* Dreve Richelle, 161, E-F,| PC & Network Specialist */ >/* 1410 WATERLOO| [EMAIL PROTECTED]*/ >/* BELGIUM | +32-2-352.25.93 Fax: +32-2-352.25.84 */ >/*-*/ > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < > /dev/null >
Re: filename conversion
*- On 16 Feb, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about "filename conversion" > hello everyone, > i just uploaded some 800++ files to my debian box (from a windoze box) and > found out that all filenames had been transformed to their uppercase > equivalent ... > anybody knows how do i convert all these files back to their lowercase > equivalent while keeping the numbers and the dots intact ? > TIA, > chad > > Install the mmv package and read the man page, then issue the command: mmv -n '*' '#l1' which will show you what it will do without actually doing it(-n option). If it is doing what you want then remove the -n and run it. As an example: %mmv -n '*' '#l1' AMM.M -> amm.m PROP_IN.M -> prop_in.m STARTP.M -> startp.m %mmv -v '*' '#l1' AMM.M -> amm.m : done PROP_IN.M -> prop_in.m : done STARTP.M -> startp.m : done -- Brian - "Never criticize anybody until you have walked a mile in their shoes, because by that time you will be a mile away and have their shoes." - unknown Mechanical Engineering[EMAIL PROTECTED] Purdue University http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis -
Re: Which Kernal supports over 6.0 GB HD
Lewis, James M. dixit: > Just a guess. I think it sees the whole thing. Disk drive makers > sometimes use 1000bytes as 1k, whereas, most folks use 1024. The disk > folks think 1,000,000,000 bytes is 1G. Others think 1,073,741,824 bytes > is 1G. 6 x 1G = 6,442,459,944 bytes. Which 6.4G if you use the 1000 > for 1k base. It depends on which def of 1k you use. I suspect the > linux utilities use 1024=1k. Read the fine print to see what the drive > manufacturer uses for 1k. I've experienced the same with a supposedly ~4.3GB seagate, which both the BIOS and Linux read as 4.1GB... your guess makes a lot of sense, and its consequence is that we're being fooled by HDD manufacturers. -- Un saludo, Horacio [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Quis custodiet ipsos custodet? --
trouble booting from CD
Hi, I have a ThinkPad 600. I can boot from the 2.0 CD OK. I hit return to begin install. Loading root.bin goes by ok. Next I see: Loading Linux.. That seems to complete, as the cursor moves to the next line. However, at this point, the machine hangs. Is there anything I can do to get around this problem? (I tried Loadln with the file from the cd and got the same results.) Thanks in advance. Spencer
Re: slink install messed up hamm partition
John Bagdanoff writes: > That was a stock 0setserial, just with the change to irq3 as I mentioned > before. When I updated packages from slink, setserial (_2.14-3) was one > that I upgraded to. So I reverted to the hamm setserial (_2.12-6) and > now the change to irq3 stays permanent. I didn't upgrade the kernel, I'm > still running Linux version 2.0.34, so maybe they're not compatable? I don't think so. It might be a bug in the setserial package. I wrote: > BTW do you really have a 16450? John Bagdanoff writes: > probably, but I couldn't prove it Run 'setserial /dev/ttyS2 autoconfig ^auto_irq' and then run 'setserial /dev/ttyS2' and see what UART the kernel thinks you have. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
Re: trouble booting from CD
On Tue, 16 Feb 1999 12:34:12 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >However, at this point, the machine hangs. Is there anything I can do to get >around this problem? (I tried Loadln with the file from the cd and got the >same results.) Obviously you don't have a problem booting from CD, but you have a problem with THAT particular kernel. Try a different kernel. I *think* there is a special kernel for laptops (it might be on the source code CD, which is also bootable.) Ralf -- Ralf G. R. Bergs * Welkenrather Str. 100/102 * 52074 Aachen * Germany +49-241-876892, +49-241-86 (fax) * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * PGP ok!
deb. kernel patch
Hi, I'm looking for debinized kernel patches for my 2.0.34 kernel. I've been looking at the Debian ftp site and can't find anything. Maybe what I'm looking for isn't there. Where can I find them? In general how do you ever find anything at an ftp site? Isn't there a list of the paths to what you are looking for somewhere? Sorry if my last couple questions aren't Debian specific but I have never used ftp except a couple times, mostly because I can never find anything. Thanks, Kent
Re: accessing debian from an hpterm
Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I have an HP-UX workstation where I work; if I connect to my Debian box > using an hpterm window, the terminal emulation is appalling. > > Arrow keys don't work for command line history (but it looks like hpterm isn't > actually sending anything to the telnet session; and I don't use the arrow > keys normally in an hpterm because the only decent shell on our system > is ksh with vi editing :-) I think that default for HP terms is that arrow keys only work locally and don't send anything back to the computer. > Also, ls thinks it can do colour, which doesn't work. Any program which > sets bold ends up setting reverse video instead. > > I copied the hp-ux (10.20) terminfo definition across but it didn't help. > Works okay if I use an xterm on HP-UX, but I prefer hpterms. Anyone? I never found anything that properly emulated an HP terminal, outside of HP itself and WRQ products. The design philosophy behind HP terminals is completely different than that of most other terminals. My suspicion is that it is different enough that the code needs to be specially written to handle it, even while using termcap or terminfo, but everybody writes for vt100s instead. I usually ended up using xterms for the same reasons you mentioned. -- Carl Johnson[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: hiding sterr
On Tue, 16 Feb 1999, tracheotomy bob wrote: > Hi all > How do I hide error messages displaying on the console? I'm trying > to set up IPX and whenever I get it wrong the screen is flooded with > error messages I don't know how to redirect them to either a file or > /dev/null. Any suggestions would be helpful foobar 2>> /dev/null IIRC (it might be 1) Matthew -- Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo Steward of the Cambridge Tolkien Society Selwyn College Computer Support http://www.cam.ac.uk/CambUniv/Societies/tolkien/ http://pick.sel.cam.ac.uk/ Debian GNU/Hurd - love at first byte
GUI stuff
I am wanting to start some GUI development but I am having a hard time figuring out just what the GUI development is? I see that the GTK libaraires are the base C++ GUI class libraries, but I also see stuff like Gnome and qt* and Glib, and other stuff. Is there any online documentation that sorts all this stuff out? What are the compliments in the Linux/X11 world to MFC/IOCL in the Win32 world? What about resource editors and stuff like that???
changing timezone
I must have goofed when I set my timezone during Debian installation. Is there a way to change this? Thanks -- Andrew
Re:dfm
i have icewm and dfm running on my system at home and i am now trying to get DFM set up so that when I view a directory I can assign icons to files depending on the icon. The man page for DFM tells how to do this using a .dfmext file in my home directory but when I do this all of the icons disappear- system ones and the ones I define. Does anyone have any clues to how to do this??? Thanks. John
Installazione di Debian
Come si esegue la partizione del disco rigido, senza cancellare dati utili gia' residenti? Grazie mille, Un nuovo utente di Linux Debian un po' confuso. fabio, questa mailing list e' internzionale ed e' obbligo e cortesia usare l'inglese translation of user question for non-italian speaker: how do i repartition my hard disk, without losing data alerady there? thanks a lot a new debian user, a bit confused -- |||| ||| Marco Frattola Microsoft is not the answer ||`..'|| |||... Piacenza, ItalyMicrosoft is the question ||| ||| |||''[EMAIL PROTECTED] "No" is the answer ||| ||| ||| www.enjoy.it/users/~mk/index.html Live Linux, live free!
Re: changing timezone
use tzconfig Pollywog wrote: > > I must have goofed when I set my timezone during Debian installation. Is > there a way to change this? > > Thanks > > -- > Andrew > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null -- Matthew D. Myers Catch me after work, I'll buy you a beer. - HL's Barney
slink=frozen still??
Hi there. I'm curious about something. When is the target for slink to be released now?? Looking back, I see that it was officially frozen on November 4th and the information on the web page states a target date of sometime in December of 1998 for release. Well, it's February of 1999 now and it's been frozen for 3.5 months (nearly a third of a year) and I still see no mention of it ever being released. Is anyone still working on this or have all the developers moved on to potato and forgotten about slink? You know, from an outside viewpoint, looking at the annouce list, it seems to me like people are more worried with constitutions and logos and press than with putting out software! Shoot - missed deadlines and playing politics insteadwhat is this? Microsoft?? ;) -Ken
Re: "green" linux user needs CRON clarification
On Tue, 16 Feb 1999, William Schwartz wrote: > There is a filed called "crontab" in the "etc" directory. That is my "system > wide" crontab. This file I am able to edit and modify... > > then there are crontab files in the "/var/spool/cron/crontabs" directory > that are to be edited with the crontab command... > > The "crontab" file in the "etc" directory has a parameter called "user". and > I use it to specify "root" because I need to schedule a job as root... > > I guess my question is: what is the difference between the two? and which > one should I use? I need a program to run every 5 minutes to do some > polling. and I want it to happen 24/7. > I would accomplish this using the crontab command. crontab allows a user to access cron by manipulating (creating, listing, removing) crontab files. For example, at home I set up a crontab file to get my email from my ISP using fetchmail. I create a file in my account that is in the crontab format and then use the command 'crontab cronfile' (where 'cronfile' is the aformentioned crontab file) to create the crontab file and therefore have cron operate on it. For system wide things, I've done the same thing as root. I'm not sure that this is "the right way" but it works just fine. This seems more straightforward to me than modifying the crontab files in the system, mostly because I like to set things up so that upgrading a distribution doesn't wipe out any changes I have made to the system files. I've never modified the system crontab files and have been able to do whatever I wanted to cron. However, I'm less sure that this is "a bad thing" because some packages do exactly this when they are installed. Hope this helps a little...
Pop authentication from a Netware server?
Hello. I've almost convinced a company to use a Linux box for mail service on their network of 15 workstations. They're running Novell 5 as their main network OS. What I've proposed to them is to install a Linux box to connect to their dual ISDN Internet connection, and to run their mail service from the Linux box. Essentially I just plan on popping mail from the Linux box to whatever mail client they want to use. What I would like to avoid is separate passwords for email and for logging into the network. Any ideas on how to achieve this? I've noticed that there's a pam module for Netware - is qpopper capable of using that module? Thanks for _any_ insight, Dale -- +- pgp key available --+ | Dale E. Martin | Clifton Labs, Inc. | Senior Computer Engineer| | [EMAIL PROTECTED]|http://www.clifton-labs.com | +--+
Re: Floppy Drive Alignment Software
On 16 Feb, Person, Roderick wrote: > Hi All, > > My 3.5 floppy is out of alignment, I know for other OSs there is software to > help you align your drive is there any for Debian or Linux in general. > > thanks > Rod > > Alignment? Are you sure? I thought that alignment problems needed an oscilloscope or at the least an expensive specially-made floppy. Anyway, I'm pretty sure I've never seen such a program for Linux. -- Stephen Ryan Debian GNU/Linux Mathematics graduate student, Dartmouth College
Re: Strange 'find' result
On Mon, 15 Feb 1999, Mitch Blevins wrote: > In foo.debian-user, you wrote: > > Can somebody explain this to me? > > > > $ find /cdrom -iname wx* > > $ find /cdrom -iname wxx* > > /cdrom/debian/hamm/hamm/binary-i386/libs/wxxt1_1.66d-2.deb > > > > Why does the first 'find' query give no results? > > Are you quoting the argument to avoid shell expansion? > > $ find /cdrom -iname 'wx*' No. I just did it as it was printed above. Today is another day. I did the same thing and here is the result: (I was in my home directory as I was yesterday) [EMAIL PROTECTED](8)$ find /cdrom -iname wx* find: paths must precede expression Usage: find [path...] [expression] [EMAIL PROTECTED](9)$ cd / [EMAIL PROTECTED](10)$ find /cdrom -iname wx* /cdrom/debian/hamm/hamm/binary-i386/doc/wxhelp_1.66d-2.deb /cdrom/debian/hamm/hamm/binary-i386/libs/wxxt1_1.66d-2.deb Anyhow, it is not a problem for me. I was just curious on why the strange result. Now I am wondering why I did not get the same result today? Johann -- | Johann Spies Windsorlaan 19 | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]3201 Pietermaritzburg | | Tel/Faks Nr. +27 331-46-1310 Suid-Afrika (South Africa) | -- "But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name"John 1:12
Re: slink=frozen still??
*- On 16 Feb, Ken Long wrote about "slink=frozen still??" > > Hi there. I'm curious about something. > > When is the target for slink to be released now?? > http://www.netgod.net/footer.cgi > Looking back, I see that it was officially frozen on November 4th and the > information on the web page states a target date of sometime in December of > 1998 for release. Well, it's February of 1999 now and it's been frozen > for 3.5 months (nearly a third of a year) and I still see no mention of it > ever being released. Is anyone still working on this or have all the > developers moved on to potato and forgotten about slink? > > You know, from an outside viewpoint, looking at the annouce list, it seems > to me like people are more worried with constitutions and logos and press > than with putting out software! Shoot - missed deadlines and playing > politics insteadwhat is this? Microsoft?? ;) > > -Ken I hope you have good quality asbestos suit. -- Brian - "Never criticize anybody until you have walked a mile in their shoes, because by that time you will be a mile away and have their shoes." - unknown Mechanical Engineering[EMAIL PROTECTED] Purdue University http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis -
Re: GUI stuff
David Webster wrote: > > I am wanting to start some GUI development but I am having a hard time > figuring out just what the GUI development is? I see that the GTK > libaraires are the base C++ GUI class libraries, but I also see stuff > like Gnome and qt* and Glib, and other stuff. Gnome is based on the GTK toolkit. Glib is a part of GTK, and isn't related to GUI stuff, its got linked-lists and whatnot. GTK is a GUI toolkit for C. Qt is a C++ library. (No wrappers that I know of -- it is much harder to "wrap" an OO-library, unless you're wrapping in another OO language...) Gnome is not a GUI library, its a whole integrated desktop system. So is KDE. KDE uses Qt is its GUI toolkit. > Is there any online > documentation that sorts all this stuff out? You can try http://www.theoffice.net/guitool, which lists a dizzying array of GUI tools. You will also find a huge repository of useful programming info (not just GUI) at http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/~ratib/code/. (It isn't organized by tool type, so you'll have to click on the language you like, and look for GUI tools there.) > What are the compliments > in the Linux/X11 world to MFC/IOCL in the Win32 world? What about > resource editors and stuff like that??? There is no "standard" GUI toolkit for Linux. Motif used to be standard (for UNIX in general), but that was only because it was the only one around. Since it is a commercial product and began to stale, eventually alternatives began to emerge. Now, you have many to choose from. Here is a short list, to get you started. - GTK (C) - Best choice if you want to program in C. Basis of Gnome. Wrappers exist for many other languages, for example GTK-- is a C++ wrapper. - http://www.gtk.org - wxWindows (C++) - This one is my favorite. Quite mature. - It's a cross-platform tool, and the one for Linux is based on top of GTK. - The main page is at http://web.ukonline.co.uk/julian.smart/wxwin - The GTK version's page is at http://wesley.informatik.uni-freiburg.de/~wxxt/ - V (C++) - Simpler than wxWindows, easier to learn. I've only experimented with it briefly, but it seems pretty nice if your needs are modest. - http://objectcentral.com - Qt (C++) - Troll Tech's infamous library. Basis for the KDE project. I personally have never used it, but I gather it is very nice (though C++ purists dislike some of their design choices!) - http://www.troll.no - There is a MFC port to Linux, I believe, though I don't know anything about and I do not want to know. - Java's AWT (Java) - The AWT is getting better. "Write once, debug everywhere!" - YACL (C++) - I've heard good things about this, but never used it or even read much about it. - http://www.cs.sc.edu/~sridhar/yacl/ That's only a start, though I think I got most of the "popular" GUI toolkits for Linux. I'd recommend wxWindows if you will be programming in C++, or maybe V. Both exist as Debian packages, though a new major version of wxWindows (2.0) will soon be released. I expect it will be debianized soon after. (If not, maybe I will do it!) Qt is also .deb'ed, and is coincidentally also approaching 2.0. I hope this clears things up rather than making it more confusing... Kirk
RE: XFree86 is 3.3.3.
That is, until it dselect comes along an upgrades the X servers :( Several times already my 3.3.3 SVGA server has been nuked by dselect, and 3.3.2 doesn't support my TNT board :( David Zanetti, Unix System Administrator, Information Technology Group Wellington City Council, New Zealand. Phone x3354 or 04 801 3354 The information contained in this email is privileged and confidential and intended for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are asked to respect that confidentiality and not disclose, copy or make use of its contents. If received in error you are asked to destroy this email and contact the sender immediately. Your assistance is appreciated. > -Original Message- > From: Remco van de Meent [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, 17 February 1999 00:00 > To: Graham Lillico +44 1785 782329 > Cc: recipient list not shown > Subject: Re: XFree86 is 3.3.3. > > Graham Lillico +44 1785 782329 wrote: > > Does anyone know if XFree86 is 3.3.3.x is avaliable in deb format > > anywhere? Or when we will have one avaliable? > > It will not be in the distribution till the maintainer of the X11 > Debian > packages feels comfortable about the current (3.3.2) packages. > > Anyways, if you need specific support for a chipset, which is > supported in > 3.3.3 though not in 3.3.2, you're encouraged to download just the > binary > X/Windows server from an xfree86.org mirror. Adjust /etc/X11/Xserver > and > your 3.3.2 X/Windows systsem will work together with your 3.3.3 > server. > > HTH, > -Remco > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] > < /dev/null
RE: Acroread plugin crashes Netscape-4.5-libc6
On a related note, the normal acrobat reader dies horribly under slink for me. Probably libraries, but as it's closed source I can't recompile it.. *curses quietly* David Zanetti, Unix System Administrator, Information Technology Group Wellington City Council, New Zealand. Phone x3354 or 04 801 3354 The information contained in this email is privileged and confidential and intended for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are asked to respect that confidentiality and not disclose, copy or make use of its contents. If received in error you are asked to destroy this email and contact the sender immediately. Your assistance is appreciated. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, 17 February 1999 03:53 > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Cc: recipient list not shown > Subject: Acroread plugin crashes Netscape-4.5-libc6 > > Has anyone had any luck getting the Acrobat reader plugin to work in > Netscape-4.5-libc6 packages? Without fail it crashes netscape. > > Thanks, > -- > Brian > - > "Never criticize anybody until you have walked a mile in their shoes, > > because by that time you will be a mile away and have their shoes." > - unknown > > Mechanical Engineering[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Purdue University http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis > - > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] > < /dev/null
Re: XFree86 is 3.3.3.
David Zanetti wrote: > That is, until it dselect comes along an upgrades the X servers :( > > Several times already my 3.3.3 SVGA server has been nuked by dselect, > and 3.3.2 doesn't support my TNT board :( An easy fix of course is to put your new (3.3.3) server in /usr/local/X11/bin or something like that, and have /etc/X11/Xserver point to that location. In that case, dpkg won't overwrite it. HTH, -Remco
