Re: Installing with low RAM

[Lindsay Allen]

On Wed, 11 Feb 1998, mr anonym wrote:

> I need help from someone that has installed Debian GNU/Linux 1.3 with
> low RAM! 

The situation as I understand it:-

You must boot from a floppy.  Use the resc disk here.
You need to put lmemroot.bin on a floppy for use during the install.

When you get the "boot: " prompt tell it "floppy0"
   i.e.boot: floppy0

After this you just follow along as instructed.  Be aware, though, that
as part of the process you will need to make a small minix partition of a
Mb or two on your drive, so allow some room for this.


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X Windows

[Pete Poff]

Does anyone think X windows is something I should have for my linux
system?  All I do is program.  Would it help me in any way?

Thanks,
Pete Poff

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Re: samba/win95

[Paul Miller]

On Wed, 11 Feb 1998, Antonio Doldo wrote:

> In the windows machines usually are used two protocols:
> IPX/SPX and NetBEUI for connecting the MS network, while for samba is
> request the stacks TCP/IP.

I don't know what your talking about... win95 supports TCP/IP, so why
would there be a problem?

> In the Linux box must be installed the TCP/IP (naturally), but when you
> login in a box with the name 'paul' and try
> 
> /home/paul/$ smbclient -L my_host
> 
> samba identify 'paul' and the 'homes' share is the home of
> paul (/home/paul)
> 
> therefore if you use a login_name in a windows pc as 'paul'
> you can be access to the listing of shares resources, otherwise
> no.
> whith security=share instead the community can view (only VIEW)
> the resources.

hmm... are you saying that when in security=user mode, samba does not
assume that the user's home directory share is owned by that user?

When I try using the "\\server\share%user" syntax, I get the same results.
I'm clueless, none of the FAQs cover this type of thing.

Is there any way I can force the "IPC$" share to be public - so browsing
works?

-Paul


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RE: X Windows

[Stephen Gregory]

I have been told that X was developed for programmers. When I program
I have three windows open. A big one with emacs to edit my source
code, a small one to compile and see my errors in, and a third medium
sized to test my program and read documentation.

I find that the X fonts are much nicer on the eyes then the standard
vga fonts.

The simple answer is this: install X and find out for yourself. Some
people like it, some don't.

-- 
Stephen Gregory


> 
> Does anyone think X windows is something I should have for my linux
> system?  All I do is program.  Would it help me in any way?
> 
> Thanks,
> Pete Poff
> 
> Pete Poff
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limiting user access

[Paul Miller]

Is it possible to restrict user access so users can not execute any
programs?  (programs which they copied on to my system).  - FreeBSD can do
this sort of thing

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Re: limiting user access

[bhmit1]

On Wed, 11 Feb 1998, Paul Miller wrote:

> Is it possible to restrict user access so users can not execute any
> programs?  (programs which they copied on to my system).  - FreeBSD can do
> this sort of thing

Mount the user writable areas with the noexec option.  Probably want to
put it in the /etc/fstab.

HTH,
Brandon

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pine/spell checking

[Paul Miller]

Is there a good spell checker for pine? - One that works all the time and
gives possible choices?

Thanks
-Paul


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zip drive

[Hamish Moffatt]

I'm running Linux 2.1.x and haven't been able to get my zip drive
to work in ages (parallel port one). It should be as simple as installing
parport, parport_pc, then ppa, shouldn't it? parport_pc always tells
me device/resource busy on insertion; inserting ppa seems
to just sit there ...

Any hints? I have zip only on the port; I don't want to use a printer
as well.



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zip disks Re: PPP problems still

[Carey Evans]

David Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> > I would also like to
> > know if anyone knows how to compress an Iomega Zip-Disk in linux, as I
> > would like to utilize my zip's for backing up files.
> 
> A zip disk is just another disk in linux. I personally use zip (infozip) 
> in preference to tar/gzip but that's partly familiarity. I also leave the 
> zipdisks as DOS so I can restore files to, say, my wife's Windoze laptop.
> The zipfilenames are 8.3, but that doesn't affect what's inside them.

If you manage to mount the disk as vfat, you get Win95 long filenames
so that, for example, "samba_1.9.18p2-1.deb" is in a more usable form.

Or even something like backup-incr-19980201-19980212.tar.gz.

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Librarys

[Pete Poff]

Can someone tell me what file I need off of ftp.debian.org that
contains all the .h files like, types.h, and time.h?  I need the ones that
work with the gcc compiler.  I've downloaded gcc*.deb, gdb*c, and
make*deb.  Can someone also tell me what command to use to see how much
space I have left?

Thanks,
Pete

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Re: limiting user access

[Paul Miller]

Is there any way to do this for only certain groups?

-Paul

On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> On Wed, 11 Feb 1998, Paul Miller wrote:
> 
> > Is it possible to restrict user access so users can not execute any
> > programs?  (programs which they copied on to my system).  - FreeBSD can do
> > this sort of thing
> 
> Mount the user writable areas with the noexec option.  Probably want to
> put it in the /etc/fstab.
> 
> HTH,
> Brandon
> 
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Re: Librarys

[Alex Yukhimets]

> Can someone tell me what file I need off of ftp.debian.org that
> contains all the .h files like, types.h, and time.h?  I need the ones that
> work with the gcc compiler.  I've downloaded gcc*.deb, gdb*c, and
> make*deb.  Can someone also tell me what command to use to see how much
> space I have left?
> 
> Thanks,
> Pete

Assuming you are using 'stable', get libc5-dev package.

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Re: Librarys

[David Z. Maze]

Pete Poff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
PP> Can someone tell me what file I need off of ftp.debian.org that
PP> contains all the .h files like, types.h, and time.h?

libc[56]-dev

PP> Can someone also tell me what command to use to see how much
PP> space I have left?

df

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Re: lchown(), libc6-2.0.7pre1, and 2.1.8x kernels

[Adam Heath]

On Wed, 11 Feb 1998, Steve Hsieh wrote:

> Doesn't appear to be good enough on its own...
> 
> dpkg: error processing ssltelnet_0.11.1-2.deb (--install):
>  error setting ownership of symlink `usr/man/man8/in.telnetd.8.gz': No such 
> file or directory
> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
> 
> ii  libc6   2.0.7pre1-1The GNU C library version 2 (run-time 
> files)
> 
> > The lchown() function shows up in the most recent libc6 package.  Is
> > this on its own enough for dpkg to work happily with the 2.1.81+
> > kernels?
> > 
> > -- 

2.1.86 swapped syscalls lchown and chown.  So 2.1.86 is backward compatible.
Please upgrade to 2.1.86 and all will work again.

I just checked this on my system with a few packages that hadn't been able to
install.  They went fine.

Adam



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Re: limiting user access

[bhmit1]

> > > Is it possible to restrict user access so users can not execute any
> > > programs?  (programs which they copied on to my system).  - FreeBSD can do
> > > this sort of thing

> > Mount the user writable areas with the noexec option.  Probably want to
> > put it in the /etc/fstab.

> Is there any way to do this for only certain groups?

Best I can do is suggest the use of group homes in /etc/adduser.conf.  Of
course, if the users have already been added, this is a pain.  Oh, you
could also use a restricted shell so they can't execute programs not in
the current path and so they can't alter the environment (like the path).
You have to be pretty good to set up an restricted shell environment that
the user can't break out of.

Good luck,
Brandon

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Re: zip drive

[James C. Carr]

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Evening,

Well, I can't say if this is the same problem that I had
experienced, but I've received a few errors saying that the Device or
Resource is busy.  The solution that I found was adding "lp=0x378" to
lilo, so that it'd only set up the first lp for printer use.  The second
lp, since it isn't associated with a printer, can be brought up with
"insmod ppa base=0x278".

Hope this kind of helps,

- -- James


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Ghostscript

[Robert LaGrasse]

Hi Group.

I've installed ghostscript from the debian 1.3.1 cd and the stuff that
relates to it as well. In going through some of the doc, I discovered I
should have a few mak files, devs.mak for example. These files are nowhere
to be found. Anyone know where I can locate them. I'm trying to setup a
couple of printers, an old HP laserjet plus and a Canon BJC-620.

Also, how can I figure out which files contain the driver information for my
printers? 

Any and all help is greatly appreciated.
Rob


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Re: X Windows

[Kirk Hilliard]

Hi Pete,

> Does anyone think X windows is something I should have for my linux
> system?  All I do is program.  Would it help me in any way?

This depends on your personal taste and on your hardware.

For me, my 486-33 with a non-accelerated ISA video board did not have
enough performance to justify X for anything that I could also do from
the console.  I found it very distracting the way that an xterm lagged
when I scrolled text full speed in less.  It is wonderful that with
linux you have the option of using multiple VCs with scroll back and
gpm, giving you many, but not all of the advantages you gain with X.

I now primarily run a P-150 laptop (so X performance is no longer an
issue) with a 12.1 1024x768 screen, and with the "fixed" font (6x13) I
can get two 80x56 xterms side-by-side without overlap.  This
no-overlap criteria was what had me hold out until 1024x768 became
available.  (Everyone who looks at my laptop remarks on how small the
font is, but I don't know if it is the sharpness and high contrast of
the LCD display or what, but I find it easier to read than same font
on much larger CRTs.)

With X, you will be able to set up your xterms with several thousand
line scroll-back buffers, and you won't lose the scroll-back data in
one xterm when you look at another, like with the VCs.

In addition to having multiple xterms (or emacs windows) visible at
once, you will still be able to shift between desktops (or between
pages on a desktop if that is what you like) with the same ALT-arrow
ease that you use to shift between VCs.  Personally, I run fvwm2 (as
my window manager) and set myself up with one page per desktop, but
with a two dimensional layout of desktops (achieved by making
ALT-up/down change the desktop number by 1000).  I hardly ever have
windows overlapping each other, but instead have a couple of dozen
windows distributes across a dozen or so desktops.  I will sometimes
make an emacs window sticky (so that it stays in place as I change
desktops) and arrange several xterms in neighboring desktops so that I
can switch between them as I cut and paste code from several other .h
or .c files or manpages to the emacs window which remains visible
throughout the process.


Here are a some of mouse related survival tips for X:

  X expects a three button mouse, and you can emulate the third button
  on a two button mouse by pressing both buttons simultaneously, but
  in X, button 2 (traditionally the middle one) is used for more
  important functions than button 3 -- such as for pasting text.  So
  you might want to swap buttons 2 and 3 by putting this in your
  .xsessions:

xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 3 2"


  When emacs is run in its own window, text is pasted at the mouse
  location, not at point.  This is likely to drive you batty if you
  have used gpm a lot, so you can override this by putting this line
  in your .emacs:

(setq mouse-yank-at-point t)

  You can still move point to the mouse location before pasting (if
  that is what you want) by pressing mouse-1.


  Also, use alternate selection in emacs to avoid moving point when
  selecting text.  Do this by holding down Meta (alt) while using the
  mouse.  Because of an evil thing done in the system.fvwm2rc which
  causes fvwm2 to intercept Meta-mouse events (see Bug #17668), you
  may need to put this line in your ~/.fvwm2/post.hook:

Mouse 0 W M -


  If you have a ps2 mouse, run gpm with the -R repeater switch, and
  tell X to use

 Protocol"MouseSystems"
 Device  "/dev/gpmdata"

  in the "Pointer" section of your XF86Config so that you will still
  be able to use gpm when you visit the console for old time's sake.


Enjoy,

Kirk (a programmer who was quite happy with his VCs, but who loves the
added power of X)

P.S.  Did I mention that you will be able to run ediff-merge with the
  two source files side by side.  It makes comparisons much easier.


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Re: Compiling w/shadow support

[Carey Evans]

"Mark A. Bialik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> >There should be very few packages you need to do this for.  Is this
> >plain Debian 1.3.1?
> 
> Well, it was. Since I went to libc6, it's now 2.0 or something :)

On the Debian lists, I call it hamm or libc6.  On non-Debian lists and 
newsgroups, I call it pre-2.0.

WRT the header files, you should try to change the programs to use
appropriate files in /usr/include, often as #include .  A
script like the following could be useful.

-
#!/bin/sh

cd /usr/include
find . -name '*.h' -print0 | xargs -r0 grep "$1"
-

Also check the man pages and/or "info libc".

Some libc6 structures and defines could be different to the ones in
the kernel, leading to "instability" in a program compiled against the
kernel includes.  The headers in /usr/include are the standard
locations for other architectures too, making the programs more likely 
to compile on Solaris, for example.

> >> ld: cannot open -lshadow: No such file or directory
> >
> >Try leaving it out, or using -lcrypt.  The latter is for libc6, IIRC.
> 
> But how do these packages know to use /etc/shadow instad of /etc/passwd then?

Hopefully they aready use getspnam instead of getpwnam where they need 
the password.  It might be an option in the Makefile.

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Re: INFO -> HTML

[Carey Evans]

Ben Pfaff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>Is there a translator that does Emacs Info->HTML conversion?
> 
>(I know you can go texinfo->DVI, but that won't help.)
> 
> There is the texi2html program, which is in package tetex-bin.  This
> might help.

There's also the info2www package.

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Re: X Windows

[Adam Heath]

On 11 Feb 1998, Kirk Hilliard wrote:

>   If you have a ps2 mouse, run gpm with the -R repeater switch, and
>   tell X to use
> 
>  Protocol"MouseSystems"
>  Device  "/dev/gpmdata"
> 
>   in the "Pointer" section of your XF86Config so that you will still
>   be able to use gpm when you visit the console for old time's sake.

I don't have to do this.  I run unstable(does it make a difference?), and both
2.0.33 and 2.1.86.  When I switch to text mode, the mouse immediately works.
When I go back to X, it sometimes takes a few seconds to start functioning(the
mouse).

Adam



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Re: pine/spell checking

[A. M. Varon]

On Wed, 11 Feb 1998, Paul Miller wrote:

> Is there a good spell checker for pine? - One that works all the time and
> gives possible choices?

There is a program called ispell. It can be used with pine.

regards,

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Re: Modem /dev/cua vs /dev/ttyS (The Long, True answer to this reappearing question)

[Steve Hsieh]

On Wed, 11 Feb 1998, Tim Sailer wrote:

> > system "stty 19200 -echoe -echo raw < /dev/cua3 > /dev/cua3" 
> > 
> > When using /dev/ttyS? instead, it won't return, whereas using cua does.
> > Would you know how to fix this problem so that I can use /dev/ttyS?
> > instead in scripts like these?
> 
> Try adding -clocal to the above command and see what happens.

No difference.  If you try on the command line, it will not come back the
second time (it seems to work the first time though..)  Just try on your
serial port..


% stty 115200 echoe -echo -clocal raw < /dev/ttyS0 > /dev/ttyS0
  
%
% stty 115200 echoe -echo -clocal raw < /dev/ttyS0 > /dev/ttyS0
  


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Re: zip drive

[Charles]

Hamish,
I have had some problems with ppp, but fortunately my zip drive
works wonderfully on my linux side.  I added the line:
/dev/sda4  /zip  msdos   defaults0   0 
to my /etc/fstab file and the line:
/dev/sda4 /zip msdos rw 0 0
to my /etc/mtab file.
I will attach copies of both of these files for your reference.
Hope this helps you out, if not then email me and let me know.
Charles
BTW you can also mount it with the following script, but it gets
monotonous typing it in all of the time
cd /
mkdir zip
mount /dev/sda4 /zip


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Re: zip drive

[Hamish Moffatt]

On Thu, Feb 12, 1998 at 01:24:53AM -0800, Charles wrote:
> I have had some problems with ppp, but fortunately my zip drive
> works wonderfully on my linux side.  I added the line:
> /dev/sda4  /zip  msdos   defaults0   0 
> to my /etc/fstab file and the line:
> /dev/sda4 /zip msdos rw 0 0
> to my /etc/mtab file.
> I will attach copies of both of these files for your reference.
> Hope this helps you out, if not then email me and let me know.
> Charles
> BTW you can also mount it with the following script, but it gets
> monotonous typing it in all of the time
> cd /
> mkdir zip
> mount /dev/sda4 /zip

Thanks for your help Charles. Unfortunately I don't get as far
as being able to mount it -- the SCSI drivers don't load properly.
I have had this working in the past but not with recent Linux
beta kernels.


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Re: zip drive

[Hamish Moffatt]

On Wed, Feb 11, 1998 at 07:27:51PM -0800, James C. Carr wrote:
>   Well, I can't say if this is the same problem that I had
> experienced, but I've received a few errors saying that the Device or
> Resource is busy.  The solution that I found was adding "lp=0x378" to
> lilo, so that it'd only set up the first lp for printer use.  The second
> lp, since it isn't associated with a printer, can be brought up with
> "insmod ppa base=0x278".

Are you running Linux 2.0.x or Linux 2.1.x beta? In 2.1 there are
facilities to share the parallel port between a printer, zip drive
etc at the same time, without removing and inserting the modules
etc. However in my case I just want to use the zip drive, I have
no printer on the port. It's different for 2.0 vs 2.1 though.


thanks,
Hamish
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Re: Ghostscript

[Hamish Moffatt]

On Wed, Feb 11, 1998 at 10:56:51PM -0500, Robert LaGrasse wrote:
> I've installed ghostscript from the debian 1.3.1 cd and the stuff that
> relates to it as well. In going through some of the doc, I discovered I
> should have a few mak files, devs.mak for example. These files are nowhere
> to be found. Anyone know where I can locate them. I'm trying to setup a
> couple of printers, an old HP laserjet plus and a Canon BJC-620.
> 
> Also, how can I figure out which files contain the driver information for my
> printers? 

The .mak files are only needed if you are compiling ghostscript
from the sources, which you don't need to. "gs -h" will list all
the available drivers. These drivers are built in to gs, rather
than being in external files.


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ATI Xpression support

[Martin Madlik]

Hi everybody,
  I have small problem with great card. Don't you know which Xserver support 
ATI Xpression with 4 MB well ?
  And where should I get it ?
ThanxMarty


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Re: Ghostscript

[Jens Ritter]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert LaGrasse) writes:

> I've installed ghostscript from the debian 1.3.1 cd and the stuff that
> relates to it as well. In going through some of the doc, I discovered I
> should have a few mak files, devs.mak for example. These files are nowhere
> to be found. Anyone know where I can locate them. I'm trying to setup a
> couple of printers, an old HP laserjet plus and a Canon BJC-620.
> 
> Also, how can I figure out which files contain the driver information for my
> printers? 

If you install lpr and magicfilter you should not have to bother with
this.

HTH,

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Re: HELP!! applix 4.3.7 woes

[Adam Shand]

> Actually, in fiddling a bit more I've noticed that it times out every
> other time and hangs when I try to import anything at all.

I do not know what you problem is but I am running Applix on a mixed
stable/unstable system (upgraded to libc6) without any problems.

I used alien to convert the .rpm's to .deb's and just installed them.
Worked perfectly first time. 

I would guess that you are missing some libraries somewhere.  I'd check
which libraries the .rpm's require and maybe alien made a mistake
somewhere.

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Re: xlib6g

[Oliver Elphick]

"David Z. Maze" wrote:
  >
  >Richard Sevenich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
  >RS> I would like to install a software package that requires
  >RS> xlib6g. dpkg is loathe to install xlib6g with xlib6 already
  >RS> installed. Can I safely remove xlib6 i.e.  will packages depending
  >RS> on xlib6 accept xlib6g ... or? ...
  >
  >If you install the xlib6 from hamm, xlib6g should install fine.
  >xlib6g is the glibc version of the X libraries, and libc5 programs
  >won't run without the xlib6 package.
  
Upgrading to glibc (libc6) is not that simple.  It is a fundamental
change which affects a lot of other things.  Especially, don't force
anything or you may end up with an unuasable system.

Look at:
http://www.debian.org/doc/libc5-libc6-Mini-HOWTO/libc5-libc6-Mini-HOWTO.html

and

http://www.debian.org/devel/autoup.sh

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Re: wanted packages

[Oliver Elphick]

"Luiz Otavio L. Zorzella" wrote:
  >
  >Is there any address where we can send our "wishes" to debian packages
  >we would like to see created? Is there any address to consult for
  >programs that can't (for any reason) have a .deb package?
  >
  >For instance, I would like to have .debs of...

Don't forget to look at hamm (unstable) and at the non-us mirror sites,
before you conclude that a package does not exist.

I know there are hylafax packages in unstable, and the ssl stuff will
have to be on the non-us site.

New packages won't appear in stable (bo) unless there is some critical 
problem that they fix.

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Re: X Windows

[Carey Evans]

Adam Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I don't have to do this.  I run unstable(does it make a difference?), and both
> 2.0.33 and 2.1.86.  When I switch to text mode, the mouse immediately works.
> When I go back to X, it sometimes takes a few seconds to start functioning(the
> mouse).

I've never had to do it, with either the 3.2 S3V server or the 3.3 or
3.3.1 SVGA servers.  (However, the S3V server did lock up
occasionally when restarting, so maybe I should have tried it.)

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StarOffice and Debian.

[Robert Moody]

Hi there,

I am wondering if anyone knows of a company which sells both the Debian
version of Linux and StarOffice. I am asking as it would be easier for
me to purchase both at the same time. Any web sites etc. would be very
helpfull.

Thanks in advance,

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Re: xauth for my wife:WOW, xdm & multi X-windows

[Remco Blaakmeer]

On Wed, 11 Feb 1998, Jameson Burt wrote:

> Daniel Martin suggested a magical solution, one his mail prodded me to use.
> I now have an X-session for myself on F7,
> one X-session for my wife on F8, 
> one X-session for my child on F9.
> WOW
> 
> Mail to debian-users on January 4, 1998, by Remco Blaakmeer showed how to do 
> this in xdm.  He suggested a clean solution to alter /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers to 
> something like
>   :0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X vt07 :0 -bpp 16
> :1 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X vt08 :1 -bpp 8
> which also gives you 16-bit color on one console and 8-bit color on the other.
> I myself now use
> :0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X vt7 :0
> :1 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X vt8 :1
> :2 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X vt9 :2
> You need change no other files.  However, for beauty, you might alter 
> /etc/X11/xdm/xdm-config.
> 
> The use of vt08 and :1 at the end of the above lines IS APPARENTLY 
> UNDOCUMENTED, at least in the Debian distribution.  These appendages are 
> necessary!  Without :2 at the end, I get no xdm login rectangle, just a grey 
> screen, for F9.  Without the vt09 appendage for the third server, 
> a 
> video-timing problem appears so that most of the consoles become unuseable, 
> having short random color stripes.  None of these appendages are needed for 
> the :0 server, though I add them for consistency.

Well, their use is documented, though I agree if you say that X is
documented in too many places. The ":0", ":1" etc. are documented in 'man
Xserver', the "vtXX" are documented in 'man Xfree86'. Apparently, every X
server is supposed to accept the options mentioned in the former and
Xfree86 adds some options mentioned in the latter.

I can confirm the problems you have when you don't supply the vtXX
options. I think that the X servers are fighting to get a console in that
case and they can do unpredictable things in that case.

The : options are simply mandatory for any X server running
locally for another display than :0. Very weird things happen when xdm
fires up three X servers and they all start to think that they are display
:0.

> A bug report for xbase told about xdm multiple X-sessions working with 
> ethernet or ppp connected, but not when disconnected.  I had this very 
> problem 
> with my ppp connection.  I would get the following error with no ppp
>Fatal server error:
> XDMCP fatal error: Session declined No valid address
> With ppp, if I turned off ppp, the xdm rectangle for login would dissappear, 
> although the cursor would still work.  Then when I turned ppp back on, the 
> login rectangles would reappear.  These problems disappeared when I followed 
> Remco's suggestion to append "vt8 :1" as above.

I don't know what to say to this, since I have never used ppp. I have an
ethernet connection to an internet backbone (WOW).

> To get a consistent login console like the first default one, you can also 
> change the file /etc/X11/xdm/xdm-config.  Amongst the entries there, I have
> DisplayManager._0.authorize:true
> DisplayManager._0.resources:/etc/X11/xdm/Xresources_0
> DisplayManager._0.setup:/etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup_0
> DisplayManager._0.startup:  /etc/X11/xdm/Xstartup_0
> DisplayManager._0.reset:/etc/X11/xdm/Xreset_0
> ! I copy the files for server 0 to those for server 1.
> DisplayManager._1.authorize:true
> DisplayManager._1.resources:/etc/X11/xdm/Xresources_1
> DisplayManager._1.setup:/etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup_1
> DisplayManager._1.startup:  /etc/X11/xdm/Xstartup_1
> DisplayManager._1.reset:/etc/X11/xdm/Xreset_1
> ! I  copy the files for server 0 to those for server 2.
> DisplayManager._2.authorize:true
> DisplayManager._2.resources:/etc/X11/xdm/Xresources_2
> DisplayManager._2.setup:/etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup_2
> DisplayManager._2.startup:  /etc/X11/xdm/Xstartup_2
> DisplayManager._2.reset:/etc/X11/xdm/Xreset_2
> I then copied without change the files /etc/X11/xdm/*_0 files to 
> /etc/X11/xdm/*_1 and /etc/X11/xdm/*_2. There are four such files; eg, 
> /etc/X11/xdm/Xresources_2 .
> 
> If you try this out, when you alter some of these xdm config files, you can 
> tell xdm to look again with
>"ps -auxw |grep X" or "ps -auxw |grep vt", then enter
> kill -SIGHUP pid-of-that-X

Actually you'll have to give xdm the SIGHUP, not the X server. I have just
sent a patch for /etc/init.d/xdm to a bug report, which will give it
restart, reload and force-reload options. If this makes it into the next
package, you can simply do '/etc/init.d/xdm reload' to reload xdm's config
files.

> If you wish to restart xdm, remember the dummy consoles like F2.  
> Go to /etc/init.d, enter "./xdm stop".  You might check that "ps -auxw |grep 
> X" returns no processes.  Then enter "./xdm start".

With my patch that would be "./xdm restart". But most of the time you only
want to reload the config files, not restart xdm.

> The virtual d

PS/2 Mouse problem

[Matt Kennedy]

I'm new to Linux and I'm having trouble using my 
mouse. It's a generic PS/2 compatible which doesn't run on any of my COM ports. 
The only informtion I could gather on it from my Win95 setup was that it's on a 
"PS/2 Compatible Mouse Port" and that it uses IRQ 12 in Windows. My 
BIOS has an "Enable PS/2 Mouse" which is enabled, and when I installed 
Debian the PS/2 was detected and the psaux module loaded.
My problem is that I don't know where to tell 
programs like gpm or X Windows where the mouse is actually at in /dev. I've read 
through the manpages, the FAQ's and many of the HOWTOS and I'm at a loss. Any 
help on this would be most appreciated.
 
Matt

printing .pdf files

[Matt Thompson]

I hope the cross-posting is OK.  I'm running a fully-updated hamm system
and wasn't sure if one was more correct than the other.

I was trying to print out my tax forms with Acrobat Reader.  I have an HP
DJ660Cse, with magicfilter, djtools and GV installed.  I was able to
print:

ftp://ftp.fedworld.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f1040a.pdf

without incident, but when I tried to print:

ftp://ftp.fedworld.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f1040.pdg

it would only print the first couple of inches of the page and then just
stop.  I tried several time with different printer setting in Acrobat 
with no success.  There don't seem to be any entries into
/var/log/lp-errs.

Any suggestions?

TIA for any help,
Matt

P.S.  I had to reboot into Windoze to print it!! :(:(:(:(


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on the fly (per archive) ext2 compression works great!

[Ulisses Alonso Camaro]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-


Hi!

Yes, the current e2compr package version lacks on the kernel patches 
(the bug report has alredy posted) you can get it from the package source,
the diff file seems to do not modify this patches so I have applied them
and I just can say that It works great! (much better than ntfs) I suggest
it to everyone.


with something like this:

find / -type f -atime +30 ! -name "*.tgz" ! -name "*.gz" ! -name "*.Z" \
- -exec chattr +c {} \;

You can compress transparently files that system doesn't has accessed in
30 days

This script is just a simple example... the possibilities are infinite

Regards,

Ulisses

PD: To apply the patch I had to temporally modify the /usr/src/linux
link to /usr/src/kernel-source-* instead of /usr/src/kernel-headers-*

After applying the patch you can safely undo restore the link

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Re: printing .pdf files

[E.L. Meijer \(Eric\)]

> 
> I hope the cross-posting is OK.  I'm running a fully-updated hamm system
> and wasn't sure if one was more correct than the other.
> 
> I was trying to print out my tax forms with Acrobat Reader.  I have an HP
> DJ660Cse, with magicfilter, djtools and GV installed.  I was able to
> print:
> 
> ftp://ftp.fedworld.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f1040a.pdf
> 
> without incident, but when I tried to print:
> 
> ftp://ftp.fedworld.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f1040.pdg
> 
> it would only print the first couple of inches of the page and then just
> stop.  I tried several time with different printer setting in Acrobat 
> with no success.  There don't seem to be any entries into
> /var/log/lp-errs.
> 
> Any suggestions?

You don't need acrobat to print pdf.  The latest versions of Aladdin
ghostscript print pdf just fine.  Of course there always is the
possibilities that the file you are trying to print is screwed up.

Eric Meijer

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Re: xlib6g

[Britton]

On Thu, 12 Feb 1998, Oliver Elphick wrote:

> "David Z. Maze" wrote:
>   >
>   >Richard Sevenich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>   >RS> I would like to install a software package that requires
>   >RS> xlib6g. dpkg is loathe to install xlib6g with xlib6 already
>   >RS> installed. Can I safely remove xlib6 i.e.  will packages depending
>   >RS> on xlib6 accept xlib6g ... or? ...
>   >
>   >If you install the xlib6 from hamm, xlib6g should install fine.
>   >xlib6g is the glibc version of the X libraries, and libc5 programs
>   >won't run without the xlib6 package.
>   
> Upgrading to glibc (libc6) is not that simple.  It is a fundamental
> change which affects a lot of other things.  Especially, don't force
> anything or you may end up with an unuasable system.

But is this the correct thing to do once you have already (apparently
succesfully) followed the instructions in the howto?  I also have a
package which depends on xlib6g, which I hesitate to install in case it
breaks the other packages that I need.  I couldn't find an 'xlib6'
package anywhere in the hamm directory, including the oldlibs directory.
Any information on how to do this would be greatly appreciated, as I need
spice3 for one of my classes, and running it remotely over ppp gets old
very fast.

> 
> Look at:
> http://www.debian.org/doc/libc5-libc6-Mini-HOWTO/libc5-libc6-Mini-HOWTO.html
> 
> and
> 
> http://www.debian.org/devel/autoup.sh
> 
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Re: PS/2 Mouse problem

[Sen Nagata]

at some point around Thu, 12 Feb 1998 04:03:45 -0500
"Matt Kennedy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> mentioned:

> My problem is that I don't know where to tell programs like gpm or X
> Windows where the mouse is actually at in /dev. I've read through the 
> manpages, the FAQ's and many of the HOWTOS and I'm at a loss. Any help on 
> this would be most appreciated.

i also have a ps/2 mouse (actually it's detected as such and it's actually
a trackball on my laptop).  i use /dev/psaux -- /dev/mouse is an alias
to this on my system, so i think /dev/mouse actually works for me too.

does this help at all?

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Re: PS/2 Mouse problem

[Carey Evans]

"Matt Kennedy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I'm new to Linux and I'm having trouble using my mouse. It's a
> generic PS/2 compatible which doesn't run on any of my COM ports.

[snip]

> My problem is that I don't know where to tell programs like gpm or X
> Windows where the mouse is actually at in /dev.

/dev/psaux, like the name of the module.  You can also find this in
section 3.6 of the Busmouse-HOWTO.

> [2  ]
This is completely unnecessary, and quite annoying.

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Re: limiting user access

[A. M. Varon]

On Wed, 11 Feb 1998, Paul Miller wrote:

> Is there any way to do this for only certain groups?

what I do is chmod 550 and chown root.staff the  /bin, /sbin, /usr/sbin,
and /usr/bin etc.

Where the group staff could be you. All others connot access the binaries
or whatever.

regards,

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Re: xlib6g

[Oliver Elphick]

Britton wrote:
  >
  >On Thu, 12 Feb 1998, Oliver Elphick wrote:
  >> Upgrading to glibc (libc6) is not that simple.  It is a fundamental
  >> change which affects a lot of other things.  Especially, don't force
  >> anything or you may end up with an unuasable system.
  >
  >But is this the correct thing to do once you have already (apparently
  >succesfully) followed the instructions in the howto?

You only do it once, of course.

  >  I also have a
  >package which depends on xlib6g, which I hesitate to install in case it
  >breaks the other packages that I need.  I couldn't find an 'xlib6'
  >package anywhere in the hamm directory, including the oldlibs directory.
  >Any information on how to do this would be greatly appreciated, as I need
  >spice3 for one of my classes, and running it remotely over ppp gets old
  >very fast.

I just checked with the mirror that I use (unix.hensa.ac.uk). There is an
xlib6 in oldlibs (version 3.3.1-2), and I suppose you will need it if you
are running any X programs that are linked to libc5. xlib6g conflicts with
xlib6 < 3.3-5, so you will have to upgrade xlib6 if it's a lower version
than that.
  >
  >> 
  >> Look at:
  >> http://www.debian.org/doc/libc5-libc6-Mini-HOWTO/libc5-libc6-Mini-HOWTO.ht
  >ml
  >> 
  >> and
  >> 
  >> http://www.debian.org/devel/autoup.sh
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RE: zip drive

[Ted Harding]

On 12-Feb-98 Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> I'm running Linux 2.1.x and haven't been able to get my zip drive
> to work in ages (parallel port one). It should be as simple as installing
> parport, parport_pc, then ppa, shouldn't it? parport_pc always tells
> me device/resource busy on insertion; inserting ppa seems
> to just sit there ...
> 
> Any hints? I have zip only on the port; I don't want to use a printer
> as well.

Hi Hamish & All,
I found that "insmod ppa" didn't work, but "modprobe ppa" worked immediately.
(On was S.u.S.E., not debian, but maybe it comes to the same thing for this).

Best wishes,
Ted.


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Re: PS/2 Mouse problem

[Oliver Elphick]

"Matt Kennedy" wrote:
  >I'm new to Linux and I'm having trouble using my mouse. It's a generic =
  >PS/2 compatible which doesn't run on any of my COM ports. The only =
  >informtion I could gather on it from my Win95 setup was that it's on a =
  >"PS/2 Compatible Mouse Port" and that it uses IRQ 12 in Windows. My BIOS =
  >has an "Enable PS/2 Mouse" which is enabled, and when I installed Debian =
  >the PS/2 was detected and the psaux module loaded.
  >My problem is that I don't know where to tell programs like gpm or X =
  >Windows where the mouse is actually at in /dev. I've read through the =
  >manpages, the FAQ's and many of the HOWTOS and I'm at a loss. Any help =
  >on this would be most appreciated.

The correct device name is /dev/psaux

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automount to amd or autofs map convertion

[Alex Shaltiel]

On Trying to  integrate a Linux box into an existing IRIX and SUN Solaris

with automount environment, I have a problem with the automount maps.

I tried to use both amd and autofs, (each separetly).

For use with amd, I need a script to convert our traditional automount

maps to amd style maps, 

	or 

for autofs, our maps work except for

direct mounting. EXAMPLE:

	auto.master
			
		/-	auto.direct
		/home	auto.home
		/users	auto.users

auto.direct (does not work)

	/dir_under_root/somthing host1:/usr/export/something	 
	/dir_under_root/smtngelsehost2:/usr/smtngelse
	/dir2			 host3:/usr/dir2
	.	
	.
	.


Any help Welcom, Thanks!!!

Alex.Sh.

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Re: zip drive

[Martin Bialasinski]

Charles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> works wonderfully on my linux side.  I added the line:
> /dev/sda4  /zip  msdos   defaults0   0 
> to my /etc/fstab file and the line:

> /dev/sda4 /zip msdos rw 0 0
> to my /etc/mtab file.

There is no use in altering the /etc/mtab file. When Linux mounts a
device, it writes the relevant information to /etc/mtab. So cat /etc/mtab
will show whats mounted currently. You can edit this file, but this won't
change anything. Only cat /etc/mtab won't show the current situation any
more. So editing this file is a Bad Thing(TM) as it doesn't do any good.

Ciao,
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Re: printing .pdf files

[joost witteveen]

In an attempt to save the world from disaster, Matt Thompson wrote:
> I hope the cross-posting is OK.  I'm running a fully-updated hamm system
> and wasn't sure if one was more correct than the other.
> 
> I was trying to print out my tax forms with Acrobat Reader.  I have an HP
> DJ660Cse, with magicfilter, djtools and GV installed.  I was able to
> print:
> 
> ftp://ftp.fedworld.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f1040a.pdf
> 
> without incident, but when I tried to print:
> 
> ftp://ftp.fedworld.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f1040.pdg

Cannot find that one, but I guess you meant:

ftp://ftp.fedworld.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f1040.pdf

Have you tried "pdf2ps" (available from gs-aladdin, in non-free)?

It looks like that one does it better.


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Re: lchown(), libc6-2.0.7pre1, and 2.1.8x kernels

[joost witteveen]

In an attempt to save the world from disaster, Steve Hsieh wrote:



> Doesn't appear to be good enough on its own...

However, didn't Linus agree to change the kernels after 2.1.87 (or 88?) so
that an old dpkg would work with the latest kernels?


> 
> dpkg: error processing ssltelnet_0.11.1-2.deb (--install):
>  error setting ownership of symlink `usr/man/man8/in.telnetd.8.gz': No such 
> file or directory
> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
> 
> ii  libc6   2.0.7pre1-1The GNU C library version 2 (run-time 
> files)
> 
> % uname -a 
> Linux minnie2.eecs.umich.edu 2.1.85 #1 Wed Feb 11 15:39:06 EST 1998 i686 
> unknown
> 
> 
> On 11 Feb 1998, David Z. Maze wrote:
> 
> > 
> > The lchown() function shows up in the most recent libc6 package.  Is
> > this on its own enough for dpkg to work happily with the 2.1.81+
> > kernels?
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KDM and > 256 colours

[AUBORD Alain]

How to start KDM with more than 256 colours. I have spent some time browsing
through the doc. without success. 

With "startx" command, the solution was easy (startx -- -bpp 16) but I can not
find the file where to put a similar definition for KDM (or XDM) which are
started automaticaly by initialisation scripts.


Any help would be greatly appreciated...



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Re: How do I convert data e-mailed from a mac?

[Frank Barknecht]

Tony hat gesagt: // Tony wrote:

> I have been sent files of this sort:
> 
>   jpmaster.dvi
> This is a application/mac-binhex40
> 
> Is there a utility that will convert these? Is it available in a Debian 
> package?

For decoding MIME-attachments I found "uudeview" a very nice package. It 
handles uudecoded data as well as the BinHex stuff the mac people like so
much. You can get it as a debian package, too.

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Re: ATI Xpression support

[Bob Clark]

I'm using the Mach-64 xserver successfully with my 2M ATI
card.  Just install it from the Debian x11 section.

--Bob

Martin Madlik wrote:
> 
> Hi everybody,
>   I have small problem with great card. Don't you know which Xserver support 
> ATI Xpression with 4 MB well ?
>   And where should I get it ?
> ThanxMarty
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Moment 22

[Joakim Burman]

hi,

I have a problem...,  when trying installing xbase-package I get the
message "xbase depends on cpp., However, cpp is not installed"
When trying to install cpp??.deb I get the message "No such file or
directory". Is it something wrong with me or the package?. The cpp package
recuires libc5 witch is installed on the system.

Please answer me!

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gcc 2.7.2.3-3: Internal compiler error 366 ???

[Rene Hogendoorn]

While compiling two C++ files with g++, I get the above error
(consistently on 2 different hamm 2.0.33 pentium boxes).
The same two files compile OK on a Dec alpha DU4.0 with gcc-2.7.2.

Anyone got a clue what this means?

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Re: StarOffice and Debian.

[Jens Ritter]

Robert Moody <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I am wondering if anyone knows of a company which sells both the Debian
> version of Linux and StarOffice. I am asking as it would be easier for
> me to purchase both at the same time. Any web sites etc. would be very
> helpfull.

At the Moment StarOffice 4.0 final is only available by ftp. 
The (commercial) Version 3.1 is distributed by Caldera (and they own
the rights for the commercial 4.0 Version).

HTH,

Jens

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Re: printing .pdf files

[Avery Pennarun]

On Thu, Feb 12, 1998 at 01:15:06AM -0800, Matt Thompson wrote:

> I hope the cross-posting is OK.  I'm running a fully-updated hamm system
> and wasn't sure if one was more correct than the other.
> 
> I was trying to print out my tax forms with Acrobat Reader.  I have an HP
> DJ660Cse, with magicfilter, djtools and GV installed.  I was able to
> print:
> 
> ftp://ftp.fedworld.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f1040a.pdf
> 
> without incident, but when I tried to print:
> 
> ftp://ftp.fedworld.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f1040.pdg

I find that printing from Acroread produces some postscript that ghostscript
doesn't like.  This may be a bug in either package, I don't know.

In any case, ghostscripts starting at about 4.0 (I think) can print pdf
files natively.  Skip the acroread step, and just ghostscript it directly. 
(I'm not sure magicfilter can handle this on its own though!)

Good luck,

Avery


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Using 100Mbit ethernet with Debian 1.3.1??

[Joergen Haegg]

We are trying to get a working 100 Mbit card to a Debian system.
None of the cards we have tried will listen to the net,
ifconfig says 'SIOCSIFFLAGS Try again'.

This happens with Intel Etherexpress 100 and 3COM 3c905.


What does that error mean and what can I do about it?
(We have tried D-Link also, didn't work.)

I find it strange that linux shouldn't be working with 100Mbit
so we have probably missed something. :-)

/Jörgen


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which init file starts sendmail?

[charles_read]

On Debian 1.3.1, which init file starts sendmail?
[I need to prevent sendmail from starting at boot-time.]

Regards,
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reboots during kernel boot

[Hamish Moffatt]

I'm having a strange problem with the kernel; sometimes, after loading
(before booting) the kernel the system will just reboot. I compiled
2.1.86 earlier today; I rebooted from my previous 2.1.72 into 2.1.86
and it worked fine. Tonight I switch the PC on, boot direct to 2.1.86,
it just reboots. Did this twice. My 2.1.72 has never done this since
I installed it:

Linux hamishpc 2.1.72 #2 Sat Dec 27 00:46:02 EST 1997 i586 unknown

Worse yet some of the 2.0.x kernels do it too. Debian's
precompiled 2.0.29 and 2.0.30 both did this when I tried them. I was using
a 2.0.29 rescue disk the other day though and it worked fine, except
once when it did the reboot. SYSLINUX 1.30 was the loader. LILO 20
used on the hard drive, booting from the NT loader (4.00) using BOOTPART 2.0.

I've had this motherboard for over a year and it works fine. I changed
the CPU from a Cyrix 6x86 (v2.6) 133MHz to an AMD K6 (which the kernel
says is post-bug) 166MHz, but that was about last September and I haven't
really noticed the connection. Nothing else has changed hardware wise.

Any suggestions, even on how to get more details? Please email me directly.


thanks,
Hamish
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Re: printing .pdf files

[Hamish Moffatt]

On Thu, Feb 12, 1998 at 08:06:53AM -0500, Avery Pennarun wrote:
> I find that printing from Acroread produces some postscript that ghostscript
> doesn't like.  This may be a bug in either package, I don't know.

Well, you're in some trouble if you can't trust Adobe to produce
valid postscript ...


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Re: Using 100Mbit ethernet with Debian 1.3.1??

[Jean Pierre LeJacq]

On Thu, 12 Feb 1998, Joergen Haegg wrote:

> We are trying to get a working 100 Mbit card to a Debian system.
> None of the cards we have tried will listen to the net,
> ifconfig says 'SIOCSIFFLAGS Try again'.
> 
> This happens with Intel Etherexpress 100 and 3COM 3c905.

We've been using the 3c905 at 100 Mbit for over a year on several
debian unstable systemswith no problems.  Probably your problem is
that your kernel/modules don't support this card.  Simply compile a
custom kernel including support for this card.

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Re: KDM and > 256 colours

[Florian Attenbergerhphalle0.informatik.tu-muenchen.de]

AUBORD Alain wrote:
> 
> How to start KDM with more than 256 colours. I have spent some time browsing
> through the doc. without success.
> 
> With "startx" command, the solution was easy (startx -- -bpp 16) but I can not
> find the file where to put a similar definition for KDM (or XDM) which are

You can change the file /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers

Just insert "-bpp 16" after the "X" in the last line.
The changes xdm AND kdm.

cu

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NCPFS seems broken on 2.1 kernels...

[Kevin Cave]

Hi All,

On this machine at work, I use Debian Hamm, and, normally,
kernel-2.0.32.
Recently I compiled and tried kernel 2.1.81, and found that I could no
longer mount
Netware volumes onto my machine. I thought to myself "Oh well, could
just be they'll
fix that later", and went merrily back to good 'ol reliable 2.0.32.

I've now tried 2.1.86, and it still has the same problem. I can use
"slist" to see the
various Netware servers, but I can't mount the volumes, or send print
files to 'em.

Has anyone else experienced this problem? Is it a known bug? Or do I
have to
install a new version of the ncpfs tools/utils (I have the latest
versions from Hamm
currently installed)?

Any comments on this appreciated.

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Re: Modem /dev/cua vs /dev/ttyS (The Long, True answer to this reappearing question)

[Dale Smith]

On Thu, 12 Feb 1998 01:22:39 -0500 (EST), you wrote:

>No difference.  If you try on the command line, it will not come back the
>second time (it seems to work the first time though..)  Just try on your
>serial port..
>
>
>% stty 115200 echoe -echo -clocal raw < /dev/ttyS0 > /dev/ttyS0
>  
>%
>% stty 115200 echoe -echo -clocal raw < /dev/ttyS0 > /dev/ttyS0
>  

Just a guess, try it *without* redirecting stdout to /dev/ttyS0 .
The stty command operates on file handle 0, not 1.  Do you really want to output
from stty to be fed to your modem (or whatever is hanging off the port)?

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encoding mp3

[Pere Camps]

Hi!

Apart from l3enc, does anybody know of a mp3 compressor?

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Re: which init file starts sendmail?

[Ben Pfaff]

   On Debian 1.3.1, which init file starts sendmail?
   [I need to prevent sendmail from starting at boot-time.]

/etc/init.d/sendmail


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Re: which init file starts sendmail?

[Martin Bialasinski]

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> On Debian 1.3.1, which init file starts sendmail?
> [I need to prevent sendmail from starting at boot-time.]

You have two options for using sendmail.

1. as a standalone demon.
Then there is a file in init.d which start it. Use update-rc.d to remove
the calls to it in the rcX.d directories.

2. started by inetd/xinetd on demand.
Use update-inetd to disable it like update-inetd --enable smtp
Use itox to resync your xinetd.conf with the inetd.conf afterwards (if you
use xinetd).

It is a good idea to read the manpages for update-rc.d and update-inetd,
so you know the commands (and also know how to use them) next time you
need them.

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Re: encoding mp3

[Stefan Berndtsson]

Pere Camps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi!
> 
>   Apart from l3enc, does anybody know of a mp3 compressor?

yes..

ftp://ftp.tnt.uni-hannover.de/pub/MPEG/audio/mpeg2/software/technical_report/dist10.tar.gz

it's horribly slow, but it has source.. 


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Library for cgi progamming in C

[Martin Schulze]

Hi,

do you use any (_free_) Libraries that help you developing cgi-bin's
written in C?  I have tested libcgic that has an inacceptable copyright
and fastcgi that does some strange things but doesn't tell me how
to use it.

I don't need much routines.  These come to my mind:

 . cgiHeader()
   prints the Content-type header

 . cgiInit()
   Initialises the library, prepares for later readings, needs
   to work with both POST and GET queries.

 . cgiGetParam(const char *name)
   Returns some read cgi variables.  This routine needs to
   decode the %xx values.

It would be nice if the library would read from stdin just like
the CGI module for Perl but that's not required.

Is there any library I could use?

Regards... Joey

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Masquerade_Domain

[eugene mendoza]

I'm using mc file to configure sendmail.cf.
When the MASQUERADE_DOMAIN(XYZ.FOO.COM.AU)
is wriiten into the mc file it comes back with
the error  A= argument required
Anyone know where i've gone wrong.
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Re: X Windows

[Kirk Hilliard]

Adam Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

I wrote:
> 
>   If you have a ps2 mouse, run gpm with the -R repeater switch, and
>   tell X to use
> 
>  Protocol"MouseSystems"
>  Device  "/dev/gpmdata"
> 
>   in the "Pointer" section of your XF86Config so that you will still
>   be able to use gpm when you visit the console for old time's sake.

and Adam Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> replied:
> I don't have to do this.  I run unstable (does it make a
> difference?), and both 2.0.33 and 2.1.86.  When I switch to text
> mode, the mouse immediately works.  When I go back to X, it
> sometimes takes a few seconds to start functioning(the mouse).

Strange.  I just checked and I still need it on unstable running
2.0.32.  (Symptom: mouse does not move at all in X.  Hardware: Toshiba
Tecra 730CDT laptop.)  Do you have a PS/2 mouse?  I understood that
the problem was that the kernel did not know how to share /dev/psaux
between two processes, and that this was on someone's 2.1 todo list,
but I never heard if anything had been done yet.

When I go back to X, it also takes about a second for the mouse to
start functioning, so I don't think that this is a symptom.

At first I was skeptical about gpm -R, but I am quite happy with it as
it seems to work transparently.

Kirk


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Re: limiting user access

[Paul Miller]

hmm... how would that stop users from running programs they copied onto my
server? 


On Thu, 12 Feb 1998, A. M. Varon wrote:

> On Wed, 11 Feb 1998, Paul Miller wrote:
> 
> > Is there any way to do this for only certain groups?
> 
> what I do is chmod 550 and chown root.staff the  /bin, /sbin, /usr/sbin,
> and /usr/bin etc.
> 
> Where the group staff could be you. All others connot access the binaries
> or whatever.
> 
> regards,
> 
> == == Andre M. Varon  Lasaltech Incorporated
> == == Technical Head  Fax-Tel: (034)435-0836
> == = ==
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> 
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Hamm upgrade woes

[Russ Cook]

Hello All,
Yesterday I took the plunge, and tried to upgrade my Bo system to Hamm 
via
the 
autoup.sh script found at the Debian web site.  I specified ftp to acquire
the new files, and let the 
script run with defaults to ftp.debian.org.  My system was 2.0.31 kernel,
with libc6 and libc5-compat (I think).
It downloaded the files, said it had everything it needed, and began the
upgrade.  Many packages didn't install, and some could not be removed
(timezone, wg15-locale, etc).  I manually 
removed the packages the script didn't, then ran autoup.sh again,
specifying local mirror for source files, and specifying
/var/lib/dpkg/methods/ftp (I think) which is where ftp put them.
It again stated it had all necessary files, and tried to proceed. 
Timezones installed, and some others, but I soon got an error from
/sbin/ldconfig that libc.so was not found.  I checked in
/usr/lib and found libc.so was a symlink to libc.so.5.4.33, which was not
on the system (removed 
by the script?).  I did a find for libc* and found libc.so.5.4.38, and set
a symlink to libc.so and ran 
the script again.
Eventually, the script completed, and I was ready to upgrade via dselect
using ftp.  More
problems ensued.  I'm being told that packages I want are not found, even
though the option to 
update available packages worked.  Can someone give me specific paths to
specify in dselect for
ftp upgrade?  I want to convert my system to Hamm, but I can't complete,
and I'm afraid to shutdown or reboot for fear it may not come back up.
Are there packages that run under Bo that won't under Hamm?  
(xloadimage,
etc?).  Which libraries must I have to run X-windows, gimp, etc, and which
libraries must NOT be loaded
to avoid conflicts?  I have read the lib5tolib6 how-to at the debian web
site.
I need specific advice, if anyone has had similar problems and overcame
them.

Thanks for any help.

Russ
P.S.  I don't have access to my machine during the day, as I'm at work and
haven't configured
it yet to allow me to telnet to it over the phone.

Russell Cook, Engineering Branch
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PAP authentication server names

[David Wright]

Thanks to Tim, Joost and Carey for the callback suggestions. I guess the
log contains the server's innocent reflection of the login name (which is
secret) and to change this would require a change in the way mgetty's 
callback worked. BTW I don't have HANGUP in my man chat, so I guess I'm 
slightly behind the current version.

A related question:

I'm trying to set up PPP with reasonably secure PAP authentication, and 
I'm using AutoPPP in mgetty. I have worked out how to set user= and 
password= at both ends with mgetty/login.config, my pppd command and 
pap-secrets; and the etc/passwd checks it ok.

But I don't really understand how the second field of pap-secrets works 
at all. The file installed by ppp has

# INBOUND
* os ""
#OUTBOUND
os * password

and I added
 * password-for-
which works if there's a user  with password password-for-
on the computer at the other end.

I don't really understand what "os" means in the first line. The 
documentation implies it ought to be the local name, but I don't 
knowingly have anything set to os. And anyway, nothing changes if I 
comment out this line.

On the other hand, I've had no success at making a connection if my added 
line has anything other than * in the second field. I've tried 
appropriate hostnames and usernames in 
that position, and I've also tried putting foo there and adding 
remotename foo to the pppd command line but if it's not * then no PAP is 
sent from this end. 

What do other people have in their pap-secrets? (without revealing any 
real secrets!)

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Re: encoding mp3

[Wiria A Kusuma]

is l3enc available for linux? if you mean for M$soft try Xingencoder
can  encodes 60megs of wav in less than 30 secs on pentium166MMX

regards
kusuma

Pere Camps wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> 
> Apart from l3enc, does anybody know of a mp3 compressor?
> 
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Re: Ghostscript

[Bob Nielsen]

On 12 Feb 1998, Jens Ritter wrote:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert LaGrasse) writes:
> 
> > I've installed ghostscript from the debian 1.3.1 cd and the stuff that
> > relates to it as well. In going through some of the doc, I discovered I
> > should have a few mak files, devs.mak for example. These files are nowhere
> > to be found. Anyone know where I can locate them. I'm trying to setup a
> > couple of printers, an old HP laserjet plus and a Canon BJC-620.
> > 
> > Also, how can I figure out which files contain the driver information for my
> > printers? 
> 
> If you install lpr and magicfilter you should not have to bother with
> this.

Are there any plans to upgrade magicfilter to include all of the printer
drivers supported in gs?  I was able to edit a few files to change
drivers, but still haven't figured out how to configure magicfilter for
the uniprint driver.

Bob

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Re: Library for cgi progamming in C

[Jens B. Jorgensen]

Well, I'm going to recommend Cgicc. The only drawback (advantage, as far as
I'm concerned) is that it's a full-on C++ object library. It is 100% free,
as long as it's distributed with the library source. This library seems
pretty nice (I've just started using it) and is probably a good candidate
for inclusion into Debian. And yes, of course I'd volunteer to make it a
package (if I only had the time). In fact, the only thing that irks me is
that this library *doesn't* let you enter values from the command line if
run from there like the CGI module(s) do. This shouldn't be too hard to add
and I'll probably do it at some point. Anyway, look here:

http://www2.hmc.edu/~sbooth

Martin Schulze wrote:

> Hi,
>
> do you use any (_free_) Libraries that help you developing cgi-bin's
> written in C?  I have tested libcgic that has an inacceptable copyright
> and fastcgi that does some strange things but doesn't tell me how
> to use it.
>
> I don't need much routines.  These come to my mind:
>
>  . cgiHeader()
>prints the Content-type header
>
>  . cgiInit()
>Initialises the library, prepares for later readings, needs
>to work with both POST and GET queries.
>
>  . cgiGetParam(const char *name)
>Returns some read cgi variables.  This routine needs to
>decode the %xx values.
>
> It would be nice if the library would read from stdin just like
> the CGI module for Perl but that's not required.
>
> Is there any library I could use?

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Re: encoding mp3

[Stefan Berndtsson]

Wiria A Kusuma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> is l3enc available for linux? if you mean for M$soft try Xingencoder
> can  encodes 60megs of wav in less than 30 secs on pentium166MMX

Only as binary for linux/x86. No other linux version.. 

/Stefan


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Re: StarOffice and Debian.

[Bob Nielsen]

On Wed, 11 Feb 1998, Robert Moody wrote:

> Hi there,
> 
> I am wondering if anyone knows of a company which sells both the Debian
> version of Linux and StarOffice. I am asking as it would be easier for
> me to purchase both at the same time. Any web sites etc. would be very
> helpfull.

There is no Debian version of StarOffice.  Caldera has a cd-rom with
StarOffice in Red Hat (.rpm) format and the tar.gz version can be
downloaded from StarDivision's site in Germany (free for non-commercial
use). There is a Debian installer for version 3.1 in hamm.  I installed
version 4.0 by hand with no ill effects.

Bob

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Re: pine/spell checking

[Colin R. Telmer]

On Thu, 12 Feb 1998, A. M. Varon wrote:

> On Wed, 11 Feb 1998, Paul Miller wrote:
> 
> > Is there a good spell checker for pine? - One that works all the time and
> > gives possible choices?
> 
> There is a program called ispell. It can be used with pine.

Paul, In case you haven't used ispell, it does not give any choices
(unless I have it set up incorrectly). 

A.M. Do you have ispell give you choices in pine?

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smail, HELO hostname without dot

[joost witteveen]

The current debian smail (3.2.0.100-4) daemon does not accept HELO comands
with non-fully qualified hostnames. See the following, "rulvsa" is not OK,
whereas "rulvsa.leidenuniv.nl" is:

$ telnet rulcmc.leidenuniv.nl 25
Trying 132.229.1.33...
Connected to rulcmc.leidenuniv.nl.
Escape character is '^]'.
220-rulcmc.leidenuniv.nl Smail-3.2.0.100 (#2 1998-Jan-13) ready at Thu, 12 Feb 
1998 16:43:17 +0100 (CET)
220 ESMTP supported
HELO rulvsa
501 HELO requires a valid host name as operand: 'rulvsa' rejected from [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] remote address [132.229.1.77]: hostname must contain a '.'.
HELO rulvsa.leidenuniv.nl
250 rulcmc.leidenuniv.nl Hello rulvsa.leidenuniv.nl ([EMAIL PROTECTED] from 
address [132.229.1.77]).


The smail from bo still does accept the short hostnames. For this
reason, some people are unable to send me email.

Does anyone know who is breaking the RFC's? Is it our smail, or 
the mail clients that do things like "HELO rulcmc"?

Thanks,

-- 
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Re: gcc 2.7.2.3-3: Internal compiler error 366 ???

[joost witteveen]

In an attempt to save the world from disaster, Rene Hogendoorn wrote:
> 
> While compiling two C++ files with g++, I get the above error
> (consistently on 2 different hamm 2.0.33 pentium boxes).
> The same two files compile OK on a Dec alpha DU4.0 with gcc-2.7.2.

> Anyone got a clue what this means?

If it's C++ code, it probably means what it says: that there is an
internel compiler error: gcc has a lot of those (For C++, that is).

If you give us a short part of the code that reproduces the problem
we may be able to say for sure.

You could also try either the egcs or gcc-2.8 packages, in experimental
(but they have problems, and apparently need a more recent libg++ -- sorry
for that (I'm the  libg++ maintainer))

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Problem with autofs

[AUBORD Alain]

I have just installed the last version of autofs 0.3.14-4 over last kernel
(2.1.86) and nothing work again. Basically I get "nfs server not reponding..."
message, but the server is perfectly working (I can mount and unmount partition
from other non linux machines in the network).

I get the following message after a while... (By the way my partition are soft
mounted)

autofs: lookup failure on existing dentry, status = -4, name = aubord
autofs: trying to recover, but prepare for Armageddon

Any Ideas ?

A.Aubord

My address:
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  Surface Mail:
A.Aubord
System Manager
Chemin d'Ecogia 16
CH-1290 Versoix
Switzerland.

tel: 950 91 03
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Re: limiting user access

[A. M. Varon]

On Thu, 12 Feb 1998, Paul Miller wrote:

> hmm... how would that stop users from running programs they copied onto my
> server? 

chmod, perl and tar connot be directly used to make the copied/uploaded
files executable...  since the files in /bin, /sbin, /usr/sbin, and
/usr/bin are owned by say, root and groupid to staff.

They have to ask permission from you if they want to execute programs
copied/uploaded to your server.

regards,

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== == Technical Head  Fax-Tel: (034)435-0836
== = ==
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Re: NCPFS seems broken on 2.1 kernels...

[Roy C Bixler]

On Thu, 12 Feb 1998, Kevin Cave wrote:
> I've now tried 2.1.86, and it still has the same problem. I can use
> "slist" to see the
> various Netware servers, but I can't mount the volumes, or send print
> files to 'em.

Yes, this is a problem.  The only fix I know of right now is to get the
ncpfs-2.1.1.tar.gz file, compile with libc5 and use it.  Elroy Paris did
some work to get ncpfs-2.0.11 to compile with libc6 and perhaps he knows
more about the status of ncpfs-2.1.1?

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Re: limiting user access

[Ben Pfaff]

   hmm... how would that stop users from running programs they copied onto my
   server? 

If they can't copy them, how will they run them?  Disable ftpd and
don't give them access to very many commands (not cc or ftp or chmod,
certainly) and they can't copy anything or create anything runnable,
therefore they can't run anything you don't want them to.


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Re: pine/spell checking

[A. M. Varon]

On Thu, 12 Feb 1998, Colin R. Telmer wrote:

> Paul, In case you haven't used ispell, it does not give any choices
> (unless I have it set up incorrectly). 
> 
> A.M. Do you have ispell give you choices in pine?

sure! go to the setup of pine. In the speller, type ispell. Invoking the
speller in pine, just press ctrl-T. I'm using it right now.

regards,

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== = ==
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Re: Debian on laptops; recommended?

[Anselm Lingnau]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Braakman) writes:

> Can any happy (or unhappy) Debian-on-laptop users help me here with
> information?

I'd say it depends a lot on the laptop in question. My own notebook is a
slightly dated IPC PortaPC 5 with a 486DX33 processor, 8 MB RAM, 700 MB
disk and a WD90C24A graphics controller. Debian runs just fine and dandy
on that machine. At the university, we have two notebooks which are
basically Texas Instruments workalikes with a Pentium-133 and 40 MB RAM,
and they are great Debian machines -- I'm using one of them as my libc6
development machine, actually. The only thing about these is that the
display is based on a Cirrus Logic chip which doesn't appear to be very
well-supported by XFree86; I have to use an older version of the server
which is the only one that seems stable. (The XFree people say that the
particular driver hasn't been tested a lot.)

In a nutshell, you will want to check carefully which graphics chip the
computer is using, since this is the area with the most
incompatibilities. Another thing that might be problematic is APM, as
not all notebooks implement APM completely within the BIOS -- some do
the power management stuff under Windows only. The current boot disks
won't allow you to install over PCMCIA ethernet or off a PCMCIA SCSI
bus, AFAIK, but this seems to be worked on.

There is a `Linux Laptop Page' on the WWW which will be easy to find
through Altavista etc.

I don't really think this is a topic for debian-private so have Cc:-ed
this answer to debian-user (which I don't have time to read myself :^().

Anselm
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Re: PAP authentication server names

[Jens B. Jorgensen]

The local name is there for completeness. When you're using it for dial-out it's
very important, especially if you dial out to more than one place. You then set
the local name to be used on the pppd command line. For dial-in you could also 
use
it to set a different set of authentication for different lines. You might use
this to reserve a certain line for certain people. The name which is used for 
this
is really arbitrary, except perhaps in the sense that pppd uses certain default
values for this name if it isn't specified explicitly on the command line or in
the options files.

David Wright wrote:

> Thanks to Tim, Joost and Carey for the callback suggestions. I guess the
> log contains the server's innocent reflection of the login name (which is
> secret) and to change this would require a change in the way mgetty's
> callback worked. BTW I don't have HANGUP in my man chat, so I guess I'm
> slightly behind the current version.
>
> A related question:
>
> I'm trying to set up PPP with reasonably secure PAP authentication, and
> I'm using AutoPPP in mgetty. I have worked out how to set user= and
> password= at both ends with mgetty/login.config, my pppd command and
> pap-secrets; and the etc/passwd checks it ok.
>
> But I don't really understand how the second field of pap-secrets works
> at all. The file installed by ppp has
>
> # INBOUND
> * os ""
> #OUTBOUND
> os * password
>
> and I added
>  * password-for-
> which works if there's a user  with password password-for-
> on the computer at the other end.
>
> I don't really understand what "os" means in the first line. The
> documentation implies it ought to be the local name, but I don't
> knowingly have anything set to os. And anyway, nothing changes if I
> comment out this line.
>
> On the other hand, I've had no success at making a connection if my added
> line has anything other than * in the second field. I've tried
> appropriate hostnames and usernames in
> that position, and I've also tried putting foo there and adding
> remotename foo to the pppd command line but if it's not * then no PAP is
> sent from this end.
>
> What do other people have in their pap-secrets? (without revealing any
> real secrets!)

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Re: smail, HELO hostname without dot

[Tim Sailer]

joost witteveen wrote:
> 
> The current debian smail (3.2.0.100-4) daemon does not accept HELO comands
> with non-fully qualified hostnames. See the following, "rulvsa" is not OK,
> whereas "rulvsa.leidenuniv.nl" is:
> 
> $ telnet rulcmc.leidenuniv.nl 25
> Trying 132.229.1.33...
> Connected to rulcmc.leidenuniv.nl.
> Escape character is '^]'.
> 220-rulcmc.leidenuniv.nl Smail-3.2.0.100 (#2 1998-Jan-13) ready at Thu, 12 
> Feb 1998 16:43:17 +0100 (CET)
> 220 ESMTP supported
> HELO rulvsa
> 501 HELO requires a valid host name as operand: 'rulvsa' rejected from [EMAIL 
> PROTECTED] remote address [132.229.1.77]: hostname must contain a '.'.
> HELO rulvsa.leidenuniv.nl
> 250 rulcmc.leidenuniv.nl Hello rulvsa.leidenuniv.nl ([EMAIL PROTECTED] from 
> address [132.229.1.77]).
> 
> 
> The smail from bo still does accept the short hostnames. For this
> reason, some people are unable to send me email.
> 
> Does anyone know who is breaking the RFC's? Is it our smail, or 
> the mail clients that do things like "HELO rulcmc"?

I believe that the RFC says you have to have a FQDN for HELO. I had
to deal with this about 2.5 years agon when I was writing a MOO routine
to send external mail. I'll have to see if I have the RFC or notes
handy.

Tim

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system state

[Russ Cook]

Is there a file on the system I can read which tells me which version of
packages and libraries are currently installed on my system?
If not, is there a system command I can use to find out?  How do you keep
track of what your current system configuration is?
I'm trying to upgrade from Bo to Hamm, and would like to be able to see for
myself exactly
what versions of various packages are installed on the system.

Thanks for any help.

Russ

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How do I use slrn?

[Johann Spies]

I installed slrn and slrnpull, connected to my news provider and ran
slrnpull to pul 20 articles in the newsgroup com.os.linux.announce. 

When I run slrn --spool, I get a screen with one row:

-->  U  20  comp.os.linux.announce

When I press the space bar or return the 20 changes to 0 with a message at
the bottom of the screen "no unread articles found"

>From the help screens I cannot find out how to read the articles.

Further, I found that in the directory /var/spool/slrnpull/news there are
lots of articles that slrnpull pulled form the news provider because when
I installed it, it was configured to work with ppp-up.  However, I cannot
read those articles.  They do not show up when I use 'L' in slrn.

When I do a 'du' on those directories it reveals that it is using a large
amount of disk space.

How do I get to read a news article using slrn?

Johann

 
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Renaming a directory..

[Bruno Simoes]

Hi all
Does somebody know if there's some command to *rename* either a file or
directory in Linux. I don't want to move them to another files/dirs.
Thank you
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Re: Compute Farm, Part II

[Richard E. Hawkins Esq.]

>you wouldn'tr want to share /etc tho...because then that shares
>everything...which isn't always good
>(wouldn't want them all to have the same IP adress)
>tho you could mount a shared version of etc and have the shared configs
>be sym links to the shared mounted version
>but..

something along the idea of netbsd's mount_union could do this.  mount the 
shared /etc "behind" the local file system, so that files not present locally 
are pulled off the server.

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fetchmail & smail

[Ole J . Tetlie]

[Please CC replies]

Hi,

I've tried to set up fetchmail to get mail from my university-account and
deliver it locally to smail on port 25. Telnetting to port 25 goes well. When
I run 'fetchmail -v' however; the following happens:

fetchmail: 4.3.6 querying ifi.uio.no (protocol IMAP) at Tue Feb 10 19:39:30 1998
fetchmail: IMAP< * OK ifi.uio.no IMAP4rev1 v10.192 server ready
fetchmail: IMAP> a0001 CAPABILITY
fetchmail: IMAP< * CAPABILITY IMAP4 IMAP4REV1 SCAN SORT AUTH=LOGIN
fetchmail: IMAP< a0001 OK CAPABILITY completed
fetchmail: Protocol identified as IMAP4 rev 0
fetchmail: IMAP> a0002 LOGIN olet "*"
fetchmail: IMAP< a0002 OK LOGIN completed
fetchmail: selecting or re-polling default folder
fetchmail: IMAP> a0003 SELECT INBOX
fetchmail: IMAP< * 42 EXISTS
fetchmail: IMAP< * OK [UIDVALIDITY 887129221] UID validity status
fetchmail: IMAP< * OK [UIDNEXT 43] Predicted next UID
fetchmail: IMAP< * FLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Draft \Seen)
fetchmail: IMAP< * OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\* \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Draft 
\Seen)] Permanent flags
fetchmail: IMAP< * OK [UNSEEN 1] 1 is first unseen message in /var/mail/olet
fetchmail: IMAP< * 0 RECENT
fetchmail: IMAP< a0003 OK [READ-WRITE] SELECT completed
fetchmail: 42 messages for olet at ifi.uio.no.
fetchmail: IMAP> a0004 FETCH 1:42 RFC822.SIZE
fetchmail: IMAP< * 1 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 2577)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 2 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 3289)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 3 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 1899)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 4 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 3014)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 5 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 3233)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 6 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 3369)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 7 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 2759)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 8 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 3265)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 9 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 1258)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 10 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 5390)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 11 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 1370)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 12 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 2486)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 13 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 1343)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 14 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 1262)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 15 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 1561)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 16 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 1060)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 17 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 2982)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 18 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 3192)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 19 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 2941)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 20 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 1733)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 21 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 2339)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 22 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 2242)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 23 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 2977)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 24 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 2290)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 25 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 1659)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 26 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 8324)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 27 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 4743)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 28 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 2758)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 29 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 1988)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 30 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 4097)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 31 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 2076)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 32 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 2679)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 33 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 5746)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 34 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 2230)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 35 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 2862)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 36 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 2362)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 37 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 1702)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 38 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 3077)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 39 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 3621)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 40 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 3773)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 41 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 3447)
fetchmail: IMAP< * 42 FETCH (RFC822.SIZE 3340)
fetchmail: IMAP< a0004 OK FETCH completed
fetchmail: IMAP> a0005 FETCH 1 FLAGS
fetchmail: IMAP< * 1 FETCH (FLAGS ())
fetchmail: IMAP< a0005 OK FETCH completed
fetchmail: IMAP> a0006 FETCH 1 RFC822.HEADER
fetchmail: IMAP< * 1 FETCH (RFC822.HEADER {1536}
reading message 1 of 42 (1536 header bytes)
fetchmail: SMTP connect to apollo failed: Connection refused
fetchmail: IMAP> a0007 LOGOUT
fetchmail: IMAP< )
fetchmail: IMAP< a0006 OK FETCH completed
fetchmail: IMAP< * BYE ifi.uio.no IMAP4rev1 server terminating connection
fetchmail: IMAP< a0007 OK LOGOUT completed
fetchmail: SMTP transaction error while fetching from ifi.uio.no
fetchmail: normal termination, status 10
fetchmail: normal termination, status 10

apollo is my local computer. I believe my .fetchmailrc is correct. Has anyone
got a clue?
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Re: KING INK

[DAVID B. TEAGUE]

All

I called their number, 1-888-248-0837, and left the debian-user mailing
list as a 'to be removed' address. I hope I was not the only one to call
them. I hate SPAM.

--David Teague

On Tue, 10 Feb 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> 
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> 
> 
> 
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> THIS IS NOT  A REPLY ADDRESS
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Re: limiting user access

[Nathan E Norman]

On Thu, 12 Feb 1998, Paul Miller wrote:

: 
: hmm... how would that stop users from running programs they copied onto my
: server? 

Mount the /home partition noexec.  In fact, make sure any user writable
partition is mounted noexec.  If your users can copy files to /usr, then
you've got a fairly big problem.

Note that this doesn't keep the user from running shell scripts, or perl
scripts, or any other interpreted scripts, unless you limit access to
interpreters (including shells).  Of course, you could mount the /home
directory read-only, but that limits its utility.

In other words, it requires a lot of planning and work.

If you have users you don't trust that much, why are you giving them
shell access in the first place?

: 
: On Thu, 12 Feb 1998, A. M. Varon wrote:
: 
: > On Wed, 11 Feb 1998, Paul Miller wrote:
: > 
: > > Is there any way to do this for only certain groups?
: > 
: > what I do is chmod 550 and chown root.staff the  /bin, /sbin, /usr/sbin,
: > and /usr/bin etc.
: > 
: > Where the group staff could be you. All others connot access the binaries
: > or whatever.
: > 
: > regards,
: > 
: > == == Andre M. Varon  Lasaltech Incorporated
: > == == Technical Head  Fax-Tel: (034)435-0836
: > == = ==
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: > 
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Re: system state

[Bob Nielsen]

'dpkg -l |less' 

On Thu, 12 Feb 1998, Russ Cook wrote:

> Is there a file on the system I can read which tells me which version of
> packages and libraries are currently installed on my system?
> If not, is there a system command I can use to find out?  How do you keep
> track of what your current system configuration is?
> I'm trying to upgrade from Bo to Hamm, and would like to be able to see for
> myself exactly
> what versions of various packages are installed on the system.
> 
> Thanks for any help.
> 
>   Russ
> 
> Russell Cook, Engineering Branch
> WSR-88D Operational Support Facility
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swap usage

[servis]

Hi all,

How can I find out which programs are using swap and how much of it?
As an example, I have found that netscape4 will occasionally start using
lots of swap and will not release it until closed, even if it is not
using it anymore(say after loading a large page like Packages.gz or
something).  I would like to find out what programs are using the swap
before I go closing a bunch of apps to clear swap space.

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