Bug#799382: marble: normal OSM map no longer available

2015-09-25 Thread Torsten Rahn

Hello,

As a clarification: The license tag in the openstreetmap dgml file does indeed 
refer to the remote png files (that are not packaged).

The whole Marble source code is licensed under the LGPL 2+ - this also includes 
the dgml files. This is not only indicated by the copyright statement inside 
all cpp and header files in the Marble code but also by the LICENSE.txt file.

Still I share the doubts regarding whether the *.dgml files' content is 
"creative" enough to be copyrightable.

I'm very thankful for the countless hours that packagers spend to package 
Marble - many of them do that in their valuable sparetime.
And you are of course free to modify and ship our software under the terms of 
the LGPL 2+ license.

BUT

Given that hundreds of other spare-time contributors have put their heart and 
several dozen man-years into Marble development ... wouldn't it be appropriate 
to ask us for clarification _before_ you start to butcher and cripple our 
software severely? 
Doesn't our Marble community of more than 500 contributors deserve that kind of 
respect for their valuable work? 
Don't the OpenStreetMap contributors who like to see their data being spread 
with proper recognition deserve that tiny additional effort?
Even more so since we have spent lots of hours in the past to do our best to 
ensure that Marble can be fully shipped under the DFSG terms to our Debian 
users?

The packager who is responsible for this obviously spent  2 minutes of work on 
modifying the Marble package for no better reasons than unclarity.
It would have cost the _same_ amount of time to send an email asking for an 
educated clarification to marble-de...@kde.org.
And you would have received a reply within minutes. Compare this additional 
effort to the years that Debian did ship these files already.

Even three full months after making this change the Marble team has not been 
approached about this yet. And I just came across this bugreport via a regular 
"Marble KDE" Google search that I do daily. 

>  any user looking for a workaround can just download this file 

Users? Wow, assuming users to have that kind of awareness and technical 
expertise is just plain unrealistic.
Please get these files included and repackaged as quick as possible. I think 
our developers and users deserve it.

Thank you and have a nice marbleous day,

Torsten

PS: We have been allowed to display the weather temparture and precipitation 
(and temp-jul) data with the request to properly credit the authors. The 2.0 
version reference was indeed a copy and paste error. You can consider the 
associated map theme to be licensed under the terms of the CC-BY-SA 3.0.





 








 



Bug#799382: AW: marble: normal OSM map no longer available

2015-10-10 Thread Torsten Rahn

I just updated the files according to your wish. 

Please fix your package now.


-Original-Nachricht-
Betreff: Re: marble: normal OSM map no longer available
Datum: Sat, 26 Sep 2015 10:33:39 +0200
Von: Maximiliano Curia 
An: torsten.r...@t-online.de

¡Hola Torsten!

El 2015-09-25 a las 10:46 +0200, Torsten Rahn escribió:
> As a clarification: The license tag in the openstreetmap dgml file does 
> indeed refer to the remote png files (that are not packaged).

> PS: We have been allowed to display the weather temparture and precipitation 
> (and temp-jul) data with the request to properly credit the authors. The 2.0 
> version reference was indeed a copy and paste error. You can consider the 
> associated map theme to be licensed under the terms of the CC-BY-SA 3.0.

Could you please commit the license change in the dgml files so we can include 
them back in the Debian packages?

The affected files are:
 data/maps/earth/openstreetmap/openstreetmap.dgml
 data/maps/earth/temp-july/temp-july.dgml
 data/maps/earth/vectorosm/vectorosm.dgml

Also, the commit for:
 data/maps/earth/behaim1492/behaim1492.dgml
assigns it a CC-BY-SA-3.0 license but the file states no version, could you 
please add that to the license block as well?

Happy hacking,
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