Bug#603063: Kdevelop crash (probably) when there are multiple sessions

2011-01-12 Thread Raymond Wan


Hi,

Just wanted to add another reason to move to the new 
upstream 4.1 version.  When I open two sessions in kdevelop, 
sometimes one of them crashes (usually not the one I'm 
typing in, but the other one).


I filed a bug report using kdevelop's crash reporter and one 
of the developers suggest moving to kdevelop 4.1 to see if 
the problem is fixed:


https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=262841

I realize crashing is perhaps more serious than a 
"wishlist", but I know moving to 4.1 takes a lot of effort 
and in the end, may not even solve my problem...


Thanks!

Ray





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Bug#609758: ext. monitor resolution

2011-01-12 Thread boris
Package: kdm
Version: 4.4.5-6

uname --all
Linux b-u6v-d 2.6.32-5-686 #1 SMP Fri Dec 10 16:12:40 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux

After a recent battery of upgrades to v. 4.4.5-6 (testing),
which included kdm upgrade, ext. monitor cannot switch
to 1920xsomething anymore, and the resolution is capped at
1924x768. I am not sure which package is responsible.
I am using Asus A6V notebook with ext. monitor.
I tried to use reportbug, which remains too hard to use
for people like me.

b.

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Bug#609807: konsole: missing Debian menu entry.

2011-01-12 Thread Bill Allombert
Package: konsole
Version: 4:4.4.5-1
Severity: normal

Hello Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers,

konsole is missing a Debian menu entry since Sat, 09 Jan 2010.
The file below (/usr/share/menu/konsole) should work:

?package(konsole):\
needs="X11"\
section="Applications/Terminal Emulators"\
title="Konsole"\
command="/usr/bin/konsole"

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Kate make python code false

2011-01-12 Thread Markus Hackspacher
Hi!,

Kate  make python code false, 
Kate puts the Python source code is not correctly:
Kate brings a 2 characters instead of 4 and 8 after a tab!
but is not allowed under the Directive
http://python.org/dev/peps/pep-0008/

Deutsch:
Kate rückt den Python Quelltext nicht richtig ein:
Kate rückt 2 Zeichen ein und nach bei 8 ein Tab!
aber ist laut Richtlinie nicht erlaubt

Dort steht:
http://wiki.python-forum.de/PEP%208%20%28%C3%9Cbersetzung%29
Code-Aufbau

Einrückung

Benutze 4 Leerzeichen pro Einrückungsebene.

Für wirklich alten Code, den du nicht in Unordnung bringen willst,
kannst du weiterhin 8-Zeichen-Tabulatoren nehmen.

Tabulatoren oder Leerzeichen?

Vermische nie Tabulatoren und Leerzeichen.

Die gebräuchlichste Art in Python einzurücken ist es, nur Leerzeichen
zu verwenden. Die zweithäufigste Art ist, nur Tabulatoren zu benutzen.
Code, der mit einer Mischung von beidem eingerückt ist, sollte so
umgebaut werden, dass nur noch Leerzeichen benutzt werden. Wird der
Python-Kommandozeileninterpreter mit der '-t'-Option aufgerufen, so
meldet er Warnungen bezüglich Code, der unzulässig Leerzeichen und
Tabulatoren mischt. Benutzt man '-tt', werden aus diesen Warnungen
Fehler. Diese Optionen sind sehr zu empfehlen!

Für neue Projekte werden nur Leerzeichen gegenüber Tabulatoren
empfohlen. Die meisten Editoren haben Funktionen, die das einfach
machen.





Mit freundlichen Grüßen

Markus Hackspacher

Si forte in alienas manus oberraverit hec peregrina epistola incertis ventis 
dimissa, sed Deo commendata, precamur ut ei reddatur cui soli destinata, nec 
preripiat quisquam non sibi parata.


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doc-base sections (Re: doc-base revisited)

2011-01-12 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Robert Luberda wrote:
> On 11.01.2011 09:27, Jonathan Nieder writes:

>>  * The registered documentation is very sparse.  It is not obvious
>> where any given kind of information is to be found (the categories are
>> especially unhelpful and I suspect something more faceted like debtags
>> might do a little better).
[...]
> There's a similar request in bug#171955, and in general it would be nice
> to have such thing implemented in both doc-base and frontends like dwww
> or dhelp. I'm aware that currently is quite hard for maintainer to
> choose the most appropriate section
[...]

Okay, I'd like to start with this.  Surely there is some cross-desktop
and cross-distro prior art for documentation categories, right?
[1][2][3][4][5][6][7]

Oh.  Well, what do yelp and khelpcenter4 do, then?

yelp has tables of contents in data/toc.xml and data/scrollkeeper.xml,
like so:

 
   Desktop
   Welcome to the GNOME Help Browser
   
 Accessibility
 Learn more about making your system more accessible for a 
range of disabilities
   
   
 GNOME Applications
 [...]

The categories are imho better in many ways than the current list from
doc-base.txt (e.g., it has a category for version control, which is
what I was last looking for) but they are far from perfect.  Seems to
be based on the XDG Menu specification[8].  Each document's rarian
metadata file includes a semicolon-delimited of categories from that
spec.

rarian's docs/rar-mdf.xhtml[9] describes the preferred metadata
format.  omf files work and the documentation says they are preferred
for compatibility, too.

KHelpCenter uses .desktop files, with a hierarchy of .desktop files
determining the hierarchy of documents displayed[10].

The toplevel table of contents:

 Welcome to KDE
 KDE Users' Manual
 Application Manuals (organized according to the menu spec)
 Control Center Modules
 KInfoCenter Modules
 Kioslaves
 Scrollkeeper - Additional non-KDE documentation
 Plasma Manual - documentation for the core interface
 Tutorials
 Unix Manual Pages (organized by section)
 Browse Info Pages (uses dir.info)
 The KDE FAQ
 Contact Information
 KDE on the Web
 Supporting KDE

Also notable is the X-DOC-Weight field, which allows "heavier" manuals
to be shown below "lighter" documents.

This sort of categorization seems quite valuable to me.  I would
like to separate

 - tutorials and how-to documents
 - papers/articles covering some specific topic in depth (still for
   users)
 - specifications (file formats, protocols, etc) and design documents
 - command-line reference (perhaps by requiring that such
   documentation be provided as man pages/info pages and not be
   registered separately)
 - API documentation
 - user manuals
 - GUI help collections

To start, it seems most important to separate the user manuals and GUI
help from the rest.  That is somewhat orthogonal to the application
hierarchy.  This could be achieved by adding a new (optional at first)
field to .doc-base files indicating what role the documentation is
meant to play.

> I agree, it would be a good idea to have some team to review the
> doc-base files, especially that something similar is already done for
> debconf templates and packages' descriptions.

Given a way to register translations (and translations of abstracts)
it should be easy to justify "volunteering" debian-l10n-english to
help with editorial control over the English version.  Maybe even
without (would have to ask).

Thanks, that was helpful.

Jonathan

[1] 2003-12-07: discussion on documentation system begins on xdg-list.
http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xdg/2003-December/001306.html
[2] 2003-12-10: "All I really need from the help system is a listing of
the documents installed, though having more metadata is
always better than less."
http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xdg/2003-December/001370.html
[3] 2004-01-04: "At this point, I've basically agreed on desktop files as
the metadata format."
http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xdg/2004-January/001488.html
[4] 2005-05-17: first draft of a help system spec based on .desktop files
http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Standards/help-system?action=recall&rev=1
[5] 2007-03-22: latest version of that help system spec
http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/help-system
[6] 2010-04-16: the latest spec, based on a /usr/share/help/ directory.
"This does not provide a mechanism for installing metadata
 files. I'm not really interested in doing that anymore, and
 nobody else seemed to want it either. I can go into reasons
 why I don't think it matters if anybody wants to hear it."
http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xdg/2010-April/011443.html
[7] 2010-05-07: more precisely:
"My general take is that document formats can embed metadata, so
 there's no need to provide a separate metadata file. We can look
 at index.page or index.docbook or