Re: Orphaning Packages
This one time, at band camp, Chris Cheney said: > I have orphaned the following packages for anyone interested in adopting > them: I'd like hdparm, please. I have a couple of finicky boxes that don't for the right thing without it. Thanks, -- - | ,''`.Stephen Gran | | : :' :[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | `. `'Debian user, admin, and developer | |`- http://www.debian.org | - signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Orphaning Packages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 22 Oct 2003 7:10 pm, Chris Cheney wrote: > I have orphaned the following packages for anyone interested in adopting > them: > > arts > hdparm > jasper > jfsutils > kdeadmin > kdebase > kdegraphics > kdelibs > kdenetwork > kdepim > kdeutils > libboulder-perl > libcflow-perl > libconfigreader-perl > libhtml-table-perl > libnet-patricia-perl > libusb > meta-kde > usbutils > > Thanks, > Chris Cheney I'm not a debian developer but I could do one or two of the higher-level kde things, such as kdenetwork or kdeadmin. I will do what I can before becoming a developer, reading thougfh the new mantainers stuff on www.debian.org in suggests doing some packing before becoming a developer. thanks - -- Peter Nuttall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dont CC me unless I ask Someone esle can help you better than I can. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/l3j1cA58uJCvV4URAk+cAJ9eEtukKxHUAnVuOIqlFvViR87+pACgvWAb 7MXmU8td/63Ar3ZHOeLLQy0= =CkAk -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Orphaning Packages
On Thu, Oct 23, 2003 at 07:45:05AM +0100, Peter Nuttall wrote: > I'm not a debian developer but I could do one or two of the higher-level kde > things, such as kdenetwork or kdeadmin. I will do what I can before becoming > a developer, reading thougfh the new mantainers stuff on www.debian.org in > suggests doing some packing before becoming a developer. I think all the KDE related packages are going into the group maintenance. Also, kdenetwork has a lot of bugs so probably wouldn't be a good beginner package either. There are many 3rd party kde packages though that haven't been packaged for Debian yet. Chris
the kde meta-package or BTS #211985
and #212933 Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 16:10:58 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: clearsigned data Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Status: RO X-Status: Q X-KMail-EncryptionState: X-KMail-SignatureState: =2DBEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi=20 I was looking at the BTS for kde while reading some other debian-qt-kde mai= l=20 and I saw that the meta kde package seems to be always broken. I think this= =20 is because it depends on a big chunk of the kde packages (fontconfig,=20 kde-core, kde-amusements, kdeaddons, kdeadmin, kdeartwork, kdegraphics,=20 kdemultimedia, kdenetwork, kdepim, kdeutils, koffice and quanta)and if any= =20 one of them is broken or is not compatible with any other then it falls ove= r.=20 Since the normal advice on debian-kde is not to use this and the wiki=20 ( http://wiki.debian.net/DebianKDE ) also says not to use this, could it be= =20 changed to just show the normal install instructions though debconf or=20 attempt to just install a base kde system ( ie not kde-amusements, kdeaddon= s,=20 kdemultimedia, kdenetwork, kdepim, kdeutils, koffice and quanta) I'm sorry if this sounds like I am dumping on Chris Cheney or whoever takes= on=20 his packages but it seems from Adrian Bunk's words that people have=20 complained about the bug sitution in kde and removing the cause of bug=20 reports like this one is one way forward. =20 thanks =2D --=20 Peter Nuttall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Don't CC me unless I ask "... being a debian unstable user is sort of like living in a house inhabit= ed by a large family of carpenters and architects. Every morning when you wake up, the house is a little different. Maybe there is a new turret, or some walls have moved. Or perhaps someone has temporarily removed the floor under your bed." =2DBEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/l++GcA58uJCvV4URAvCrAKCgATWk1bTBJTbCBq046B+Ybs1zFwCgm1hW cuBOT+zNx9MFl/EVW3t/Rl0=3D =3DYdtE =2DEND PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Orphaning packages
On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 01:10:02PM -0500, Chris Cheney wrote: > I have orphaned the following packages for anyone interested in adopting > them: > > arts > kdeadmin > kdebase > kdegraphics > kdelibs > kdenetwork > kdepim > kdeutils > meta-kde > > Thanks, > Chris Cheney Martin Loschwitz wrote: >If nobody objects, I can take over resposibility for these packages and do my >best to get them ready for release. I, however, will also try to establish the >maintainer group in order to avoid events like the one described above in the >future. * Please * do. I believe that the kdelibs upload to fix RC bugs is very high priority. It also should be pretty easy! 1. kdelibs-data requires a Conflicts: k3b (<= 0.9-3), arson (<= 0.9.7-1) line (see #214534, #214535). 2. Apparently meinproc needs to go into kdelibs-bin in kdelibs4-dev (bug 214815). 3. kdelibs needs to be built. (#216336 is probably bogus, but you'll find out as soon as you build a new version.) That will take care of all the RC bugs. -- After that, kdebase needs a 3.1.4 upload. Bug #214475 should be downgraded or closed, and the other two are woody-only. Once those two are in, it's just a matter of getting all the buildds to do their jobs, and everything except kdemultimedia (glibc bug), kdebindings (unpackaged), and meta-kde (who cares?) should go into 'testing' pretty quickly. Frankly, I wouldn't worry about those at all until the others are ready. -- Nathanael Nerode http://home.twcny.rr.com/nerode/neroden/fdl.html
Re: the kde meta-package or BTS #211985
On Thu, Oct 23, 2003 at 04:10:11PM +0100, Peter Nuttall wrote: > and #212933 > Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 16:10:58 +0100 > User-Agent: KMail/1.5.4 > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: Text/Plain; > charset="us-ascii" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Content-Description: clearsigned data > Content-Disposition: inline > Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Status: RO > X-Status: Q > X-KMail-EncryptionState: > X-KMail-SignatureState: > > =2DBEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi=20 > > I was looking at the BTS for kde while reading some other debian-qt-kde mai= > l=20 > and I saw that the meta kde package seems to be always broken. I think this= > =20 > is because it depends on a big chunk of the kde packages (fontconfig,=20 > kde-core, kde-amusements, kdeaddons, kdeadmin, kdeartwork, kdegraphics,=20 > kdemultimedia, kdenetwork, kdepim, kdeutils, koffice and quanta)and if any= > =20 > one of them is broken or is not compatible with any other then it falls ove= > r.=20 > Since the normal advice on debian-kde is not to use this and the wiki=20 > ( http://wiki.debian.net/DebianKDE ) also says not to use this, could it be= > =20 > changed to just show the normal install instructions though debconf or=20 > attempt to just install a base kde system ( ie not kde-amusements, kdeaddon= > s,=20 > kdemultimedia, kdenetwork, kdepim, kdeutils, koffice and quanta) Why not use kde-core which already only depends on the minimal packages: arts, kdelibs, kdebase... However, in the past the part that keeps getting broken is kdebase which happens to be one of the most important packages. kdemultimedia is currently broken but that is due to the gcc-3.3 transition (#203303), once glibc is fixed properly this is unlikely to happen again. As I understand it glibc will be fixed sometime next week. That said meta-kde will be restructured very soon in that unofficial KDE apps will no longer be mentioned by meta-kde directly, there will be a second meta-kde-extras source that provides metapackages for them. This will allow backports to use meta-kde without unsolvable dependencies. Chris signature.asc Description: Digital signature
KDE 3.1.4 Status Update - 20031023
The current[1] status of KDE in sid is below. I will be uploading new kde packages soon with the group/list address as the maintainer. It appears that the m68k buildd zeus is broken[2][3]. Also crest has a problem where it will not allow programs being run to modify anything in its $HOME dir which causes kde packages to fail to build.[4] Chris Cheney [1] - Thu, 23 Oct 2003 15:21:46 -0500 [2] http://buildd.debian.org/fetch.php?&pkg=kdeedu&ver=4%3A3.1.4-1&arch=m68k&stamp=1066835693&file=log&as=raw [3] http://buildd.debian.org/fetch.php?&pkg=kdegames&ver=4%3A3.1.4-1&arch=m68k&stamp=1066794071&file=log&as=raw [4] http://buildd.debian.org/fetch.php?&pkg=quanta&ver=1%3A3.1.4-1&arch=m68k&stamp=1066829723&file=log&as=raw arts --- Done. Needs reorganization of libartsc0 so that apps won't pull in libarts1. kdelibs --- mips- needs retry (failed due to xrender) Needs a new upload to fix RC bugs. kdebase --- Needs Upload. Needs a new upload to fix RC bugs. --- kde-i18n --- Done. kdeaddons --- mips- needs kdelibs kdeadmin --- mips- needs kdelibs kdeartwork --- arm - needs new kdebase mips- needs new kdebase kdebindings --- Needs to be packaged. kdeedu --- m68k- needs retry (buildd breakage)[2] mips- needs kdelibs kdegames --- m68k- needs retry (buildd breakage)[3] mips- needs kdelibs kdegraphics --- mips- needs kdelibs kdemultimedia --- Needs Upload. Needs a new upload to fix RC bugs. Bug #203303 is still keeping it from being built at this time. It appears that glibc may be fixed by Oct 31. kdenetwork --- mips- needs kdelibs kdepim --- arm - needs retry (failed due to libxft2-dev???) mips- needs kdelibs kdesdk --- mips- needs kdelibs kdetoys --- mips- needs kdelibs kdeutils --- mips- needs kdelibs quanta --- m68k- needs retry (crest is improperly setup)[4] mips- needs kdelibs signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: the kde meta-package or BTS #211985
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 23 Oct 2003 7:33 pm, Chris Cheney wrote: > On Thu, Oct 23, 2003 at 04:10:11PM +0100, Peter Nuttall wrote: > > and #212933 > > Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 16:10:58 +0100 > > User-Agent: KMail/1.5.4 > > MIME-Version: 1.0 > > Content-Type: Text/Plain; > > charset="us-ascii" > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Content-Description: clearsigned data > > Content-Disposition: inline > > Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Status: RO > > X-Status: Q > > X-KMail-EncryptionState: > > X-KMail-SignatureState: > > > > =2DBEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Hi=20 > > > > I was looking at the BTS for kde while reading some other debian-qt-kde > > mai= l=20 > > and I saw that the meta kde package seems to be always broken. I think > > this= =20 > > is because it depends on a big chunk of the kde packages (fontconfig,=20 > > kde-core, kde-amusements, kdeaddons, kdeadmin, kdeartwork, > > kdegraphics,=20 kdemultimedia, kdenetwork, kdepim, kdeutils, koffice and > > quanta)and if any= =20 > > one of them is broken or is not compatible with any other then it falls > > ove= r.=20 > > Since the normal advice on debian-kde is not to use this and the wiki=20 > > ( http://wiki.debian.net/DebianKDE ) also says not to use this, could it > > be= =20 > > changed to just show the normal install instructions though debconf or=20 > > attempt to just install a base kde system ( ie not kde-amusements, > > kdeaddon= s,=20 > > kdemultimedia, kdenetwork, kdepim, kdeutils, koffice and quanta) > > Why not use kde-core which already only depends on the minimal packages: > arts, kdelibs, kdebase... my point was questioning the value of a meta-package that would be the logical thing to install if you were wanting kde but that seemed to be both big and broken. However, in the past the part that keeps > getting broken is kdebase which happens to be one of the most important > packages. kdemultimedia is currently broken but that is due to the > gcc-3.3 transition (#203303), once glibc is fixed properly this is > unlikely to happen again. As I understand it glibc will be fixed > sometime next week. > thanks for that data > That said meta-kde will be restructured very soon in that unofficial KDE > apps will no longer be mentioned by meta-kde directly, there will be a > second meta-kde-extras source that provides metapackages for them. This > will allow backports to use meta-kde without unsolvable dependencies. > this is want I was asking for. but went you talk of 'unofficial' packages are you refering to the kde things like the games and the multimedia packages or koffice and quanta or things like juk and arson? > Chris thanks ps sorry about the email. I think the subject was too long. - -- Peter Nuttall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Don't CC me unless I ask "... being a Debian unstable user is sort of like living in a house inhabited by a large family of carpenters and architects. Every morning when you wake up, the house is a little different. Maybe there is a new turret, or some walls have moved. Or perhaps someone has temporarily removed the floor under your bed." -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/mED9cA58uJCvV4URApK2AKDMpzVa2T5pciEi5l3FSATwFQOedQCfRbm7 lbdm41A3PAHs/j/gcPUEHU4= =oz6+ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: KDE 3.1.4 Status Update - 20031023
I just noticed the real reason quanta failed to build on m68k was due to crest getting SIGTERM. So it was shut down during the beginning of the build. Chris
Re: the kde meta-package or BTS #211985
On Thu, Oct 23, 2003 at 09:58:34PM +0100, Peter Nuttall wrote: > my point was questioning the value of a meta-package that would be the > logical > thing to install if you were wanting kde but that seemed to be both big and > broken. It will be primarily of use for stable Debian releases when the dist has actually stablized and is installable. ;) > > That said meta-kde will be restructured very soon in that unofficial KDE > > apps will no longer be mentioned by meta-kde directly, there will be a > > second meta-kde-extras source that provides metapackages for them. This > > will allow backports to use meta-kde without unsolvable dependencies. > > > > this is want I was asking for. but went you talk of 'unofficial' packages are > you refering to the kde things like the games and the multimedia packages or > koffice and quanta or things like juk and arson? The official kde packages are: arts kde-i18n kdeaddons kdeadmin kdeartwork kdebase kdebindings kdeedu kdegames kdegraphics kdelibs kdemultimedia kdenetwork kdepim kdesdk kdetoys kdeutils quanta Note: Juk will be part of kdemultimedia in KDE 3.2 so will be part official at that point. Chris signature.asc Description: Digital signature
