Re: KDE 3.1.4 Status Update -- 20031021

2003-10-22 Thread Nathanael Nerode

The current[1] status of KDE in sid is below. Hopefully the buildds
will catch up soon then I can upload a new kdelibs.


Is there really any reason to wait for them to catch up?





Re: KDE 3.1.4 Status Update -- 20031021

2003-10-22 Thread Chris Cheney
On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 01:54:51AM -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote:
> >The current[1] status of KDE in sid is below. Hopefully the buildds
> >will catch up soon then I can upload a new kdelibs.
> 
> Is there really any reason to wait for them to catch up?

Well until kdelibs is built on all archs other KDE packages won't be
compilable. I am considering making kdelibs-data arch: any due to this
fact.

Chris



Re: Group maintainership

2003-10-22 Thread David Pashley
On Oct 20, 2003 at 17:09, Ben Burton praised the llamas by saying:
> 
> 
> I can see arguments for group maintainership of core material such as
> qt, kdelibs, etc, and I have no problem whatsoever with that.  However,
> because this is a good solution for large core packages does not mean
> it needs to be imposed upon smaller or non-core packages.
> 
> And of course it's neither pleasant nor necessary to have one's
> character called into question for resisting this imposition.

I have no problem with kdesdk etc remaining maintained by just yourself.
I did not expect this to be taken as a hijacking and I hope no-one else
had that intention. 

One thing I will say is that it would be useful to have your input on
packaging and policy regarding the core KDE and Qt stuff as you are
probably the biggest user of them, but then I don;t see a need for you
to hand over any control in order to do this.


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Re: KDE 3.1.4 Status Update - 20031020

2003-10-22 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 05:10:14PM -0500, Chris Cheney wrote:
> The current[1] status of KDE in sid is below. Hopefully the buildds will
> catch up soon then I can upload a new kdelibs. I am not sure if mips is
> ever going to be in good shape since it appears the buildd admin doesn't
> care to maintain it...

I'm not sure that waiting for buildds before uploading new packages is
really good at this stage. If you're waiting for a particular version of
kdelibs to upload kdebase, for example, then it would be better just to
add a versioned build-dep to kdebase. Those can be ignored pretty
efficiently by the buildds until a new version is available, and in the
meantime testing can proceed by users and by other buildds.

kdebase is really getting urgent. :(

Cheers,

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Re: KDE 3.1.4 Status Update - 20031020

2003-10-22 Thread Riku Voipio
On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 06:11:31AM -0500, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 05:10:14PM -0500, Chris Cheney wrote:
> > The current[1] status of KDE in sid is below. Hopefully the buildds will
> > catch up soon then I can upload a new kdelibs. I am not sure if mips is
> > ever going to be in good shape since it appears the buildd admin doesn't
> > care to maintain it...
 
> I'm not sure that waiting for buildds before uploading new packages is
> really good at this stage. If you're waiting for a particular version of
> kdelibs to upload kdebase, for example, then it would be better just to
> add a versioned build-dep to kdebase. 

That's not the problem. the problem is that kdelibs-dev package
depends on exact kdelibs4 version, and the new kdelibs-dev is
binary-all and thus gets into the archive before kdelibs is compiled
on that specific platform.

Personally I think we should just upload all new kde packages and drop
any archs that are inable[1] to get kdelibs compiled in a reasonable
timeframe.

[1] http://buildd.debian.org/build.php?arch=mips&pkg=kdelibs&ver=4:3.1.4-2

> kdebase is really getting urgent. :(

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Orphaning Packages

2003-10-22 Thread Chris Cheney
I have orphaned the following packages for anyone interested in adopting
them:

arts
hdparm
jasper
jfsutils
kdeadmin
kdebase
kdegraphics
kdelibs
kdenetwork
kdepim
kdeutils
libboulder-perl
libcflow-perl
libconfigreader-perl
libhtml-table-perl
libnet-patricia-perl
libusb
meta-kde
usbutils

Thanks,
Chris Cheney


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Re: Orphaning Packages

2003-10-22 Thread Martin Loschwitz
On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 01:10:02PM -0500, Chris Cheney wrote:
> I have orphaned the following packages for anyone interested in adopting
> them:
> 
> arts
> kdeadmin
> kdebase
> kdegraphics
> kdelibs
> kdenetwork
> kdepim
> kdeutils
> meta-kde
> 
> Thanks,
> Chris Cheney

If nobody objects, I can take over resposibility for these packages and do my
best to get them ready for release. I, however, will also try to establish the
maintainer group in order to avoid events like the one described above in the
future.

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Re: KDE 3.1.4 Status Update - 20031020

2003-10-22 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 08:05:06PM +0300, Riku Voipio wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 06:11:31AM -0500, Colin Watson wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 05:10:14PM -0500, Chris Cheney wrote:
> > > The current[1] status of KDE in sid is below. Hopefully the
> > > buildds will catch up soon then I can upload a new kdelibs. I am
> > > not sure if mips is ever going to be in good shape since it
> > > appears the buildd admin doesn't care to maintain it...
> > 
> > I'm not sure that waiting for buildds before uploading new packages
> > is really good at this stage. If you're waiting for a particular
> > version of kdelibs to upload kdebase, for example, then it would be
> > better just to add a versioned build-dep to kdebase. 
> 
> That's not the problem. the problem is that kdelibs-dev package
> depends on exact kdelibs4 version, and the new kdelibs-dev is
> binary-all and thus gets into the archive before kdelibs is compiled
> on that specific platform.

Oh, that should be equally not a problem. If kdelibs-dev can't be
installed then the buildds will just defer the build for a while; that's
perfectly normal and not something that should delay maintenance work.

Cheers,

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