Bug#423443: ITP: python-cups -- Python bindings for CUPS
Package: wnpp Owner: Otavio Salvador <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Severity: wishlist Package name: python-cups Version : 1.9.21 Upstream Author : Tim Waugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Web page: http://cyberelk.net/tim/data/pycups/ License : GPL Description : Python bindings for CUPS A module for using the CUPS 1.2 API in Python programs. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pkg-config issues
|| On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 14:55:40 +0100 || Rene Engelhard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: re> I don't think so. Your package doesn't need pkg-config. It can be used without re> it. If you use pkg-config in the app using the lib you can build-depend on it re> extra at that package... >> Should I fill bugreports against packages which contain either >> problem a or b (or even both)? Should put it in Suggests field, I think. -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house."
Re: Introducing experimental php5 packages
|| On Sat, 13 Nov 2004 18:42:47 +0100 || Piotr Roszatycki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: pr> If it is possible, I'd like to upload the packages to the experimental pr> archive. I think is the right place to put it. -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house."
Re: Asunto: Czech localization of Mozilla Firefox in Sarge?
|| On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 16:18:24 +0100 || [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: l> Otavio Salvador agreed to sponsor this package. l> We decided to wait one week before upload it to the archive, in order to l> get some more feedback. Probably we can already upload it. What do you think, l> Otavio? The only problem is that I'm currently on holiday and I will stay l> outside until next sunday, but maybe it can be uploaded anyway. It only depends if we have pending issues it solve before upload, otherwise, we can do it without problem. You decide :-) If you want to me upload it I need: .dsc .diff.gz .orig.tar.gz TIA, Otavio -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house."
Re: Linux Core Consortium
|| On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 15:51:15 -0500 || Ian Murdock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> And which I doubt we will get with LCC, since the kernel is the most >> important piece which needs to be certificated. im> The common core will include a common kernel. See the FAQ at im> http://componentizedlinux.org/lsb/: "Importantly, the LCC platform im> will include a common kernel, eliminating one of the largest sources im> of incompatibilities between Linux distributions as im> each vendor incorporates its own potentially incompatible patch sets." Ok but how will be deal with unsupported hardware? Will be applied patches to add support on it? -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house."
Re: updated debian development diagram -- comments?
|| On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 01:08:49 -0500 || Kevin Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: km> Hi Folks, km> I have updated my diagram on the debian developement model. Any comments km> appreciated! IMHO have one wrong information on that. When the package go to experimental, it comes from DD .deb like when it go to unstable and not from debian source. One of interpretions are wrong. The unstable interpretion (Debian source -> DD .deb -> unstable ) looks ok to me. I propse to change (Debian source -> DD .deb -> (experimental || unstable)) -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house." pgp9EGJrFPRbD.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: RFC: graph of Debian package cycle
|| On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 16:47:27 +0100 || martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: mfk> Based on the work of Kevin Mark (URL not available, sorry), I have mfk> made a graph of the life cycle of a Debian package for inclusion in mfk> my forthcoming book (http://debianbook.info). You can find the mfk> sources and generated files at I think you might change this: incoming -> package source -> buildds -> package upload -> incoming -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house." pgpSFmbwBoAcE.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: RFC: graph of Debian package cycle
|| On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 18:50:56 +0100 || martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: mfk> also sprach Otavio Salvador <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.02.12.1842 +0100]: >> I think you might change this: >> >> incoming -> package source -> buildds -> package upload -> incoming mfk> Given that incoming contains the source package (unless orig.tar.gz mfk> is pulled from unstable, should add that), the buildds really don't mfk> deal with the upstream sources or the unpacked source tree mfk> maintained by the developer. Buildds deal with source package and not binary package. I thought you mean with package source the .dsc, .diff.gz and .orig.tar.gz files. -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house." pgpa4L4snPN4h.pgp Description: PGP signature
xresprobe pachage inside of Debian [was Re: Ubuntu for packaging for Debian]
|| On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 08:36:59 +0100 || Petter Reinholdtsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: pr> (If only Ubuntu would do an effort to get their "home-made" packages pr> like xresprobe into Debian. :) I talked with Daniel Stone about it and I'll maintain it inside of Debian. The current lack is it have some xorg specific issues and then we need to address it. Or leave it as is and use ddcprobe with xdebconfigurator by now. -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house." pgpS9LWbafLxV.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: /etc under svk
|| On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 09:00:37 +0100 || Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: mh> On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 23:16:31 +0100, Florian Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> mh> wrote: >> * Torsten Landschoff: >>> Wanted to do that - but! Does svk handle symlinks? Thinking of >>> /etc/rc?.d and /etc/alternatives... Wrote my own scripts to handle svn >>> for /etc but they are still quite hackish... >> >> Subversion 1.1 and svk 0.18 both support symlinks natively. mh> Another topic that needs to be addressed with putting /etc under mh> version control is file modes and owner/group. cvs doesn't handle that mh> well at all. mh> Also, the repository needs to be protected as /etc itself is, as it mh> contains passwords and other system confidential data. In case of use SVK to it you can change the repository mask and the checkout if you need. No problem. It won't be accessible by network so it's mostly safe. Another possibility is use SVN server to host it and only mirror it locally. In this case you need a more secure server but this is also possible. -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house." pgpQS5Jk3cy44.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Add a videocard to Discover
|| On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 15:15:39 +0100 || Paul van der Vlis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: pvdv> Hello, pvdv> During install my videocard is not detected by Debconf. It is a cheap pvdv> Nvidia compatible videocard what uses the "nv" driver. pvdv> How can I tell the Discover-developpers about this videocard? pvdv> With regards, pvdv> Paul van der Vlis. pvdv> BTW: This is from "lspci -vv" pvdv> - pvdv> :01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV18 pvdv> [GeForce4 MX 4000 AGP 8x] (rev c1) (prog-if 00 [VGA]) pvdv> Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- pvdv> ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- pvdv> Status: Cap+ 66MHz+ UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >> TAbort- SERR- Latency: 64 (1250ns min, 250ns max) pvdv> Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 193 pvdv> Region 0: Memory at ee00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M] pvdv> Region 1: Memory at f000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M] pvdv> Expansion ROM at effe [disabled] [size=128K] pvdv> Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 2 pvdv> Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1- D2- AuxCurrent=0mA pvdv> PME(D0-,D1-,D2-,D3hot-,D3cold-) pvdv> Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME- pvdv> Capabilities: [44] AGP version 3.0 pvdv> Status: RQ=32 Iso- ArqSz=0 Cal=3 SBA+ ITACoh- GART64- pvdv> HTrans- 64bit- FW+ AGP3+ Rate=x4,x8 pvdv> Command: RQ=1 ArqSz=0 Cal=0 SBA- AGP- GART64- 64bit- pvdv> FW- Rate= pvdv> --- You need to pass the: lspci -n lspci outputs. Better is report a bug in BTS for it. -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: svn.debian.org: Automatically putting log message into debian/changelog?
|| On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 15:09:07 +0100 || Torsten Landschoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: tl> Hi Joey, tl> On Thu, Feb 24, 2005 at 04:42:49PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: >> I've done this for years using the attached script (which will work with >> both svn and cvs (less well), and can also tag releases). tl> Thanks, that was exactly what I looking for. I already had scheduled tl> some hacking for this. :) tl> Now I have to update it for svk ;) Perfect. Please, share it after change ;-) -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: is xprint still used by mozilla, etc?
|| On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 17:16:09 -0300 || Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: hdmh> On Thu, 10 Mar 2005, Joey Hess wrote: >> painful to the installation team, I mostly wanted to ask: Is xprintorg >> still needed to print from mozilla, openoffice, firefox, etc, or has >> that been cleared up since january? Should I remove xprt-xprintorg from >> the desktop task again? hdmh> It is not absolutely needed for most people. It is absolutely needed for a hdmh> small set of people (some charsets don't work without it, I seem recall. But hdmh> unfortunatelyy I cannot recall which). It is *always* a good idea to use it hdmh> if you can get it to work (and with CUPS, setting the DPI correctly is hdmh> usually all it takes). hdmh> I would leave it on the task, and instead get people to actually translate hdmh> that message ASAP. The problem is larger then that. Leave it on task will require update of installation manual and update of all translations too. -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: is xprint still used by mozilla, etc?
|| On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 18:13:46 -0300 || Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: hdmh> On Thu, 10 Mar 2005, Otavio Salvador wrote: >> The problem is larger then that. Leave it on task will require update >> of installation manual and update of all translations too. hdmh> Then we are best served by removing it. It is suggested, anyway... Not really. Like you did remember, exist some language that need it for printing and in this case i think it should be included. Like I suggested in another mail to this thread, I think the best solution is include it only in needed locales. tasksel have this feature. -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: is xprint still used by mozilla, etc?
|| On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 12:56:46 -0800 || Keith Packard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: kp> Around 14 o'clock on Mar 10, Joey Hess wrote: >> Back history: I added xprt-xprintorg to the desktop task at the end of >> January after receiving bug #226605 which stated that >> >> More and more applications like Firebird, Thunderbird, Mozilla, Java, >> Openoffice and more need it so the >> default Debian desktop and print server installations should provide it. kp> I'm afraid Xprint is a political football; some people will say that more kp> and more projects depends on it, and others (myself included) will say kp> that it is decreasingly relevant. kp> As far as I understand it, neither Mozilla nor OpenOffice are built to kp> require Xprint in the Debian packages. Mozilla can be configured to use kp> Xprint, and I believe it has additional capabilities not present in the kp> bare postscript output mechanism. kp> I believe the depends and recommends mechanism is sufficient to ensure that kp> Xprint is available where necessary, and that we shouldn't burden the kp> desktop task with optional software which provides no direct user-visible kp> functionality. If it doesn't give a lot of extra functionaly for all users it can be leave included only on needed languages. We can add another task depending on desktop and then it'll only be installed if desktop task is selected for install. -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: is xprint still used by mozilla, etc?
|| On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 19:37:16 -0500 || Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: jh> Otavio Salvador wrote: >> Not really. Like you did remember, exist some language that need it >> for printing and in this case i think it should be included. jh> What languages (and why)? Like Henrique, I don't remember which languages. I think this detail is more adequate to it's maintainer then me. I haven't found the thread about it while I was finding on mailing list archive. Then, sorry if I can't point out which languages need to use it for proper printing :( -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Stateless linux in Debian
|| On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 14:27:49 -0500 || linux romeo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: lr> Hello Marco/List, lr>I am willing . lr> I wish to work on a project which incorporates lr> 1) State linux (http://fedora.redhat.com/projects/stateless/) lr> 2)Meets most of OSDL Desktop Linux specification lr> anybody else who is willing/ interested pl let me know In next week I'll try to take a look on it. It looks very interesting to some things I need to do :-) -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RFH] Test of new grub package
Christopher Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On November 11, 2005 19:53, Otavio Salvador wrote: >> I prepared a new package of grub for upload in next days. It still >> needs some work but looks like a good improvement. >> >> Would be good if you could do a brief test of it and provide feedback >> directly to me. If it solve any previous bug that you had before, >> would be good if you could send me a hint so I can close it when I >> have the upload ready. > > Tested and working here. I'll report any glitches. Do you know if this > package fixes the XFS-as-root-partition problems? I don't use XFS here, so > I can't test it myself, but was thinking of running XFS in future. No, it didn't fix it :( I thought that it fixed but I was wrong :( Good to hear that it worked for you. I'll probably upload this to unstable since we already has current version on testing. -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Automatic closing of bugs
Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > A lintian-like test to see if the listed bugs match the package before > uploading seems more useful to me. It would have prevented this > particular problem. IMHO, is the best and easier alternative. -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Canonical's business model
Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Gustavo Franco wrote: >> I agree with "similar things being said" but i'm yet to hear about the >> lack of collaboration and give Debian something back. For example: I >> don't remember too much people caring about PGI (Progeny) and after >> that anaconda "port" to say that they weren't contributing the >> installer efforts to us, even when d-i was already there. > > FWIW, progeny uploaded pgi to Debian (I forget if it ever made it out of > incoming) and have contributed back other tools like pickaxe too (pity > we haven't tried to use it and are still stuck with the Evil that is > debian-cd). I think it was pretty clear by the time their anaonda port > came around that Debian was not very interested it it except possibly as > a fallback if d-i failed to materialize. Also discover1 and discover2. -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian derivatives and the Maintainer: field (again)
Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I would very much appreciate if folks would review > http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/05/msg00260.html and consider the > points that I raise there. I put some effort into collating the issues > which came up the last time and presenting them. In my point of view, maintainer field just need to be change when Ubuntu does a non-trivial change on it. Otherwise, at least to me, is OK to leave the maintainer field unchanged. Directly imported source (that will be just recompiled by Ubuntu) doesn't need to be change since it's the same source code that runs on Debian. -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian derivatives and the Maintainer: field (again)
Adam Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> * 1 FETCH (BODY[TEXT] {1008}
> On Tue, 17 Jan 2006, Otavio Salvador wrote:
>
>> In my point of view, maintainer field just need to be change when
>> Ubuntu does a non-trivial change on it. Otherwise, at least to me, is
>> OK to leave the maintainer field unchanged. Directly imported source
>> (that will be just recompiled by Ubuntu) doesn't need to be change
>> since it's the same source code that runs on Debian.
>
> But linked against other libraries. The binary is downloaded from another
> location(or installed from a different cd set). The program used to do the
> download may be different.
Using this as rule, then all Debian CDD distributions would need to
recompile all sources to change the maintainer field. This include
Debian-EDU, Debian-BR-CDD and others. That's what you think is
correct?
In case of CDDs, the only exception is it isn't build against other
libraries but it is installed by different cd set and downloaded from
another location in many cases.
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Re: Debian derivatives and the Maintainer: field (again)
Andreas Tille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> In case of CDDs, the only exception is it isn't build against other >> libraries but it is installed by different cd set and downloaded from >> another location in many cases. > > If it is a CDD than it is installed from a Debian mirror and nothing else. Debian-EDU is available in Debian but also outside of it since they need to do more updated that aren't allowed in our stable versions. In that case, they would need to recompile all source again to change the maintainer field. -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian derivatives and the Maintainer: field (again)
Andreas Tille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, 18 Jan 2006, Otavio Salvador wrote: > >> Debian-EDU is available in Debian but also outside of it since they > > Well, that's a "temporary" hack until we have implemented solutions which > makes this superfluous. But exist! -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MIA? Fabio Rafael da Rosa
Lionel Elie Mamane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Otavio, you seem to have been his sponsor, do you have any news from > him in the last 6 months (or since January, 1st 2005, for that > matter)? Anybody else? I didn't have any news from him. :( I think would be fine if you take over the package. Leave him as co-maintainer for a while. -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MIA? Fabio Rafael da Rosa
Lionel Elie Mamane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The remaining question is the equivs package, which is NMU-maintained > these days. I suppose that the qa group should take it after a week or > two? Hijack it? -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Automatic testing of .deb's
Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Should I file the mawk patch, attached, as a wishlist bug against > mawk[3] ? It would be nice to be able to integrate the tests for each > package as far upstream as possible; at the moment, that probably > means putting it in the Debian packages. If you patched any of my packages, please, provide the patch to me to apply it. I would love to have it integrated in my packages also in Debian in general. > I would like to have some idea what people think I should do with the > tests that we're hopefully going to have, eventually for lots of > packages. Would Debian like those tests as patches in wishlist bug > reports, in general ? That would seem to be best to me but before I > go down this route I'd like to be clear that that's what Debian > developers want. As I said above, I think it's a really good effort for Debian, Ubuntu and any other derivative to have integrated since it'll help to us to don't have broken packages in archive. Maybe it could be later included in DAK for acceptance checking avoiding problematic packages to hit the enduser as possible. -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#352073: ITP: gerwin -- CASE tool for edit data model
Fernando Ike de Oliveira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > retitle 335018 ITP:GNU Ferret - GNU Free Entity This should be sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: For those who care about stable updates
Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'm sick of this entire situation. It makes me ill, angry and utterly > frustrated. It causes me being frustrated of Debian and unable to work on > other issues, needing a rest more often that planned. I should do better > with my limited life. Hence, I give up. Congratulations. :( Is there something that we could to do try to revert it? I do think your work is very suitable for us and we all use it while using point releases and security repository. In that way, would be good to have you again on it. Mostly of use know that Debian has its problems but give up doesn't solve them. Would be better if we try to make a group and propose solutions. For those problems that ftpmasters still avoid to accept and most of us agree there's the Tecnical Comitee so we have an option. -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: For those who care about stable updates (update)
Martin Zobel-Helas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > To continue the service of stable point releases to our users, Andreas > Barth and I took over the Stable Release Management. We will try to add > other people to our team, improving responsiveness and quality. What will the process to someone who want to join the team to help with it? -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: removal of svenl from the project
Andres Salomon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> I strongly oppose to such an expulsion. > > It amazes me that people oppose expulsion, but are perfectly happy to > allow the DAMs to decide whether or not a NM is to be let into the > project. Why do we trust the DAM's judgement in one scenario but not > the other? I oppose to his (Sven) expulsion too. Well, I don't trust all actions of DAM's neither of anybody else. I think each action need to be judge by time. I think we all do mistakes. I agree that Sven sometimes is very rudy like a lot of other DDs here and there. That isn't a reason to remove him from the project. I personally dislike that situation of Jonas and Sven and do thing that those things shouldn't happen but we also need to look all good work that Sven already did in past and continue to do in a lot of areas of Debian et all. I work with him in some projects (Parted and MOL) and never had problems to deal with him. We always discussed all things without problems. -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house." pgpEL7wkZvNgH.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: removal of svenl from the project
martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > also sprach Gustavo Franco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.03.15.1512 +0100]: >> It seems that the project is splitting in two groups basically: >> The people that wants to work together and release Etch, and the >> people that with a reason or not wants to see it delayed. The >> minute after the release team announces that we're going to delay >> our next release, we will stop with these weird threads and keep >> arguing that we're all volunteers and are doing our best. oh, the >> humanity! >> >> I'm asking myself what's behind all that ? Ubuntu ? Probably no. >> Subconcious fear to delivery in time ? Probably yes. Stop thinking >> about who you're going to ask to be expelled next and spend some >> time considering not my words, but just Etch. > > Thank you! Thank you! That's what we all are (should) be here to do. -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NEW queue and ftp-master approval
|| On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 07:37:49 +0100 || Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: gvb> Then the maintainer gets a bugreport saying they should gvb> Replace/Conflict/Provide the silly name. Also ftp-mster could get an gvb> automatic notice about new debs and a 3 day window to veto it or gvb> something. ftp-master being a group that should suffice. The NEW queue gvb> doesn't have to be instantanious. gvb> How often does it actualy happen that ftp-master rejects the name of a gvb> package? Did anyone have that happen to him/her when adding a new deb gvb> to old source ever? This is not the only problem. ftp-master's also do some checks to see if we aren't do massive fragmentation of packages. I, personally, was one person who have a rejected package because I splited one and wasn't need. -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house." pgpOhKNO0hcfX.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: NEW queue and ftp-master approval
|| On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 15:31:55 +0100 || Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: gvb> How often does it actualy happen that ftp-master rejects the name of a gvb> package? Did anyone have that happen to him/her when adding a new deb gvb> to old source ever? >> >> This is not the only problem. ftp-master's also do some checks to see >> if we aren't do massive fragmentation of packages. I, personally, was >> one person who have a rejected package because I splited one and >> wasn't need. gvb> Then other DDs will lart you and you revert the change. If it happens gvb> before the package enters sarge that should be painless. gvb> I could live with that if it means a lot more packages don't get stuck gvb> in NEW. But maybe that is just me. I could live with that too. I was only describing some possible problem we could be exposed. -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house." pgpqfCmOHGtD6.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Debian-Installer rc3 released
|| On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 23:53:25 -0500 || Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: jh> The Debian Installer team is proud to announce the third release candidate jh> of the Debian Installer for Debian GNU/Linux Sarge. We love doing this so jh> much that we couldn't resist updating the installer one more time before jh> the official release of Debian 3.1. Please, resend it to debian-devel-announce too -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: More DDTP problems
|| On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 21:04:52 +0200 || Martin Zobel-Helas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: mz> I am currently on that (started last weekend). Jeroen sent me the CVS mz> tarball. I hoped to finished it at the weekend but it's more than mz> expected and i did not yet understand all code. mz> Perhaps it is also a good idea if some more people could go over the mz> code, as many eyes see more than two eyes do. I can help with it. How are you doing it currently? maybe a Alitoh project could be a better place to work together. -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Temporal Release Strategy
>>>>> "wesley" == Wesley J Landaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: wesley> On Wednesday 13 April 2005 08:12, Patrick A. Ouellette wesley> wrote: >> PROPOSAL FOR DISCUSSION: >> >> I suggest we can eliminate the traditional concept of a >> "release" with the addition of another step in the progression >> from unstable to stable. Additionally, all promotion of >> packages from one step to the next will be automated according >> to strict rules. >> >> The progression I see is: >> >> unstable -> testing -> candidate -> stable wesley> I like the spirit of this idea, although I'm sure the wesley> details need a lot of working over. (This could, but wesley> wouldn't need to *replace* releases--it could simply wesley> augment the release creation process.) wesley> I'm interested to hear other's ideas on why this is/is not wesley> a good idea, and what technical/logistical hurdles would wesley> prevent this from being done. Maybe a better approuch could be a more restrict testing rules and then remove the need of one temporary distribution (candidate, in this case). I think if we have a testing more close then now we can have it in releasable state faster and then allow releases more frequently but I can be wrong. -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R ----- E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: More DDTP problems
>>>>> "martin" == Martin Zobel-Helas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: martin> Hi all, martin> On Monday, 04 Apr 2005, you wrote: >> On Apr 4, 2005 4:04 PM, Martin Zobel-Helas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > I am currently on that (started last weekend). Jeroen sent me >> the CVS > tarball. I hoped to finished it at the weekend but >> it's more than > expected and i did not yet understand all >> code. >> > >> > Perhaps it is also a good idea if some more people could go >> over the > code, as many eyes see more than two eyes do. >> >> We've been talking about this with other people involved and I >> even asked Michael Bramer independently (hadn't seen your >> message). It would be a great thing if DDTP code could be put >> in alioth, so that all of us who want to make it better have >> access to it. >> >> Michael said it was ok with him. Could you start the alioth >> project with the code Jeroen sent you? martin> sorry for beeing a little bit quite last week. I was on martin> vacation and had some personal things to do. martin> I registered a alioth project today, which hopefully will martin> be aprooved soon. I also CCed grisu in this mail, perhaps martin> he can also give us some helping hands with the DDTP. martin> So how do we want to proceed further? I think a good idea martin> might be as soon as we have the alioth project to upload martin> the tar.gz Jeroen send me. Then every file which has been martin> checked for trojanisation (and is negative) could be martin> checked in individualy into the CVS. martin> Or should we have branch the CVS? This way we might be martin> able to restore old CVS log messages. I think is best move all there, convert to subversion, and then we start to look file by file. To "Sign" a file, we can commit another fine and then we write a small script to check against it. -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: More DDTP problems
Hello folks, Like I proposed, I converted all CVS repository to Subversion[1]. 1. http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/ddtp/, svn://svn.debian.org/svn/ddtp/ svn+ssh://svn.debian.org/svn/ddtp/ Current layout of the repository is: - branches/ . a/ included on original source. We need to decide what to do with it; . unchecked/ branch with the last code available. This will be where we will do the check and copy the file to trunk/ - tags/ . b/ included on original source. We need to decide what to do with it; - trunk/ currently empty since we don't have any code checked. We really need to discuss how we will do the checking. One possible approuch could be use a derivation of how the kernel patches are now checked. I'll explain my proposal bellow: In each file we start to check, we add a footer commented (for example in C code): /* Checking: otavio; Started in: 2005-04-27 */ After we finished to check the code and have sure it doesn't have malicious code inside, we change it to: /* Sign-Off: otavio; Finished in: 2005-04-27 */ We should have, at last, two Signs to move the file to trunk. All this can be done by scripting (only the checking itself by a human) and looks fine to me. What you all think about it? -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Outrageous Maintainer
>>>>> "steve" == Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: steve> On Sat, Apr 30, 2005 at 03:06:31PM -0400, sean finney steve> wrote: >> On Sat, Apr 30, 2005 at 08:30:38PM +0200, Klaus Ethgen wrote: > >> The according bug is #306608. >> having read through the bug report, it seems to me the >> appropriate thing to have done all along was add a Conflicts >> statement, which really does no harm and does resolve the >> issue. steve> Sorry, but insisting that a maintainer add a Conflicts: steve> against a separately RC-buggy package which is not in steve> testing and will shortly be removed from unstable is just steve> silly. It can be done, but for the most part this bug is steve> going to resolve itself, and there's no reason the steve> maintainer should treat adding this conflict as a high steve> priority under the circumstances. But you remove the package from testing doesn't mean we won't have users with it installed since it was present there so, IMHO, the Conflict is need. -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: More DDTP problems
>>>>> "daniel" == Daniel Macêdo Batista <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> 1. http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/ddtp/, >> svn://svn.debian.org/svn/ddtp/ >> svn+ssh://svn.debian.org/svn/ddtp/ daniel> I tried access now but the server is not available :( daniel> [...] I hope it come back soon. >> What you all think about it? daniel> I aggree with this metodology. Let's wait the opinion by daniel> others. Perfect. daniel> Thanks by your iniciative! You're welcome. -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house."
Re: [PATCH] dpkg: add transparency support to dselect, misc. fixes
>>>>> "adeodato" == Adeodato Simó <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: adeodato> * Bernhard Fischer [Fri, 20 May 2005 18:23:14 +0200]: >> Hi, adeodato> Hi Bernhard, I'm not a dpkg person at all, but the adeodato> following advice sounds like common sense to me, and adeodato> perhaps it even helps. ;-) Hello to both :-D >> Attached patch implements support for transparent terminals in >> dselect. It also contains various cosmetic fixes as well as a >> potential real bug in lib/varbuf.c. adeodato> What about spliting the thing into three separate adeodato> patches then? They are certainly three separate issues, adeodato> with three different priorities, so chances are that adeodato> some will get applied before than the others. Yes. This is really better. Is best if you have fixes and improvements in two or more patches. >> PS: The patch is against dpkg-1.10.27 from testing as gluck was >> down at the time i wrote it. adeodato> As I can't be sure the above implies you're aware of adeodato> it, I'll mention: development on dpkg is happening on adeodato> the experimental version (1.13.4 atm), so it'd be adeodato> helpful to make sure your patch is up to date. There's adeodato> also an Arch repo, so if you're familiar with it you may adeodato> want to maintain a branch. I suggest instead of plain patches try to use arch or bazaar and make one branch for each feature. Then you can sync your patches easier and is a lot easier for dpkg hackers merge them too. Of course, use the development branch for include new features since it will probably be moved to unstable when sarge goes out. -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R ----- E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house."
Re: And now for something completely different... etch!
>>>>> "humberto" == Humberto Massa Guimarães <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: humberto> * John Hasler :: >> Wouter Verhelst writes: > In practice, many third-party >> applications will make assumptions > about the availability and >> configuration of runlevels... >> >> Seems to me that the most likely such assumption is that the >> runlevels are Red Hat-like. humberto> IOW, the most likely assumption is that the runlevels humberto> follow the LSB I agree with you. -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house."
Re: Better brand recognition for new Debian (etch)
>>>>> "humberto" == Humberto Massa Guimaraes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: humberto> IMHO, there is a series of (serious) problems in such a humberto> plan, such as: humberto> * testing and unstable are not installable by humberto> non-tech-folk, all the time, really. There can be times humberto> where they are, but there are some times they are humberto> not. They break. unstable really break sometimes but testing exist to be a always working version. This is why sometimes things have a so long delay to enters testing while it has something broken or with RC issues. humberto> * we should not really multiply (space, time, bandwidth) humberto> needed for our mirrors; right now, some archs are humberto> endangered because of such hefty requirements. we currently have support for partial mirroring using a lot of packaged tools like debmirror, rsync, mirror and debpartial-mirror. humberto> * we *do* have, after all, "tasks" to install desktops humberto> and (some, specialized?) servers, without having to humberto> resort to creating another 30G of repositories. I didn't understand what you mean here. Please explain. humberto> * finally, the infrastructure necessary to do what you humberto> ask for is really a job better done by specialized humberto> derived distros (such as LinEx, Ubuntu, even Ian's own humberto> Progeny) Well yes and no. If we had a place to move the improvements we need on derivative distributions could be better since we have the possibility to merge more code and more effort and start to have more cooperation. Debian have all needed structure done. DAK support it very well and what is really need is only decide what is the rules for packages migrate to that releases from unstable. I'm not sure if this is good or bad for Debian but is possible to have it working without so much effort. -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ~ in package versions
>>>>> "steve" == Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: steve> On Thu, Jun 16, 2005 at 12:00:43AM +1000, Paul TBBle steve> Hampson wrote: >> I just wanted to confirm my recollection that now that stable >> has been released with support for ~ in package versions in >> dpkg and apt, we can now use ~ in package versions for upload >> to the Debian archive. >> Is this right, or have I misremembered? steve> It was that such package versions could not be used steve> *before* sarge released, not that they would be supported steve> immediately *after* the release; the change has not yet steve> been made to make this possible for etch. Do you remember if the remaining issue is only APT side? if yes I can try to fix it myself. -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ~ in package versions
>>>>> "adam" == Adam Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: adam> On Wed, 15 Jun 2005, Steve Langasek wrote: >> On Thu, Jun 16, 2005 at 12:00:43AM +1000, Paul TBBle Hampson >> wrote: > I just wanted to confirm my recollection that now that >> stable has been released > with support for ~ in package >> versions in dpkg and apt, we can now use ~ in > package >> versions for upload to the Debian archive. >> >> > Is this right, or have I misremembered? >> >> It was that such package versions could not be used *before* >> sarge released, not that they would be supported immediately >> *after* the release; the change has not yet been made to make >> this possible for etch. adam> Namely, as you told me on irc, that dak uses ~ internally as adam> a separator; this obviously conflicts with dpkg's use of it adam> in versions. adam> So, to those wondering, this is more than just removing some adam> simple forbiddince check. It also requires not just adam> completely allowing it; ~ can only be allowed for uploads adam> into testing and unstable. Well and then what is pending for it? - DAK support for it; - APT support? -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R ----- E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ~ in package versions
>>>>> "colin" == Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: colin> On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 07:04:32PM -0300, Otavio Salvador colin> wrote: >> >>>>> "adam" == Adam Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: adam> Namely, as you told me on irc, that dak uses ~ internally as adam> a separator; this obviously conflicts with dpkg's use of it adam> in versions. >> adam> So, to those wondering, this is more than just removing some adam> simple forbiddince check. It also requires not just adam> completely allowing it; ~ can only be allowed for uploads adam> into testing and unstable. >> Well and then what is pending for it? >> >> - DAK support for it; colin> Yes. So I'll do a look at it. I'll also add a param on katie.conf to say to DAK if it should allow or not versions using ~. -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R ----- E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ~ in package versions
>>>>> "roberto" == Roberto C Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: roberto> On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 04:47:39PM -0500, Adam Heath roberto> wrote: >> On Wed, 15 Jun 2005, Steve Langasek wrote: >> >> > On Thu, Jun 16, 2005 at 12:00:43AM +1000, Paul TBBle Hampson wrote: >> > > I just wanted to confirm my recollection that now that >> stable has been released > > with support for ~ in package >> versions in dpkg and apt, we can now use ~ in > > package >> versions for upload to the Debian archive. >> > >> > > Is this right, or have I misremembered? >> > >> > It was that such package versions could not be used *before* >> sarge released, > not that they would be supported immediately >> *after* the release; the change > has not yet been made to make >> this possible for etch. >> >> Namely, as you told me on irc, that dak uses ~ internally as a >> separator; this obviously conflicts with dpkg's use of it in >> versions. >> >> So, to those wondering, this is more than just removing some >> simple forbiddince check. It also requires not just completely >> allowing it; ~ can only be allowed for uploads into testing and >> unstable. roberto> Doesn't that also make backporting packages to Sarge (if roberto> they have ~ in the version) a bit more dicey? Yes. But this can be workarounded changing it's version. Let's take an example: 1.0~pre1 -> 0.99+1.0pre1 I don't see any problem on it. -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ~ in package versions
>>>>> "os" == Otavio Salvador <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>>>> "colin" == Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
colin> On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 07:04:32PM -0300, Otavio Salvador
colin> wrote:
>>> >>>>> "adam" == Adam Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
adam> Namely, as you told me on irc, that dak uses ~ internally as
adam> a separator; this obviously conflicts with dpkg's use of it
adam> in versions.
>>>
adam> So, to those wondering, this is more than just removing some
adam> simple forbiddince check. It also requires not just
adam> completely allowing it; ~ can only be allowed for uploads
adam> into testing and unstable.
>>> Well and then what is pending for it?
>>>
>>> - DAK support for it;
colin> Yes.
os> So I'll do a look at it. I'll also add a param on
os> katie.conf to say to DAK if it should allow or not versions
os> using ~.
I did a first version of the patch. It still miss the param to say
witch suite can have the ~ on version field but the rest look
ok. Can someone do a look at it?
The current version can be grabed from:
http://projects.ossystems.com.br/~otavio/dak_allow_tilde.diff
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Bug#314541: ITP: buildbot -- Build automation system
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Otavio Salvador <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: buildbot Version : 0.6.6 Upstream Author : Brian Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://buildbot.sourceforge.net/ * License : GPL Description : Build automation system Description: Build automation system The BuildBot is a system to automate the compile/test cycle required by most software projects to validate code changes. By automatically rebuilding and testing the tree each time something has changed, build problems are pinpointed quickly, before other developers are inconvenienced by the failure. The guilty developer can be identified and harassed without human intervention. By running the builds on a variety of platforms, developers who do not have the facilities to test their changes everywhere before checkin will at least know shortly afterwards whether they have broken the build or not. Warning counts, lint checks, image size, compile time, and other build parameters can be tracked over time, are more visible, and are therefore easier to improve. -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable APT prefers unstable APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (1, 'experimental') Architecture: powerpc (ppc) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Kernel: Linux 2.6.12-rc4 Locale: LANG=pt_BR, LC_CTYPE=pt_BR (charmap=ISO-8859-1) Versions of packages wnpp is related to: ii reportbug 3.13 reports bugs in the Debian distrib ii totem-gstreamer 1.0.3-1A simple media player for the Gnom -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Testing package installation, upgrading, and removal
>>>>> "lars" == Lars Wirzenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: lars> la, 2005-06-18 kello 22:53 -0400, Joey Hess kirjoitti: >> I want to run a test that installs each package in woody in >> turn, upgrades them to sarge, then to sid, then purges it, then >> looks for /usr/doc and /usr/info stuff that is were produced >> during the package's install or upgrade and not removed. lars> An interesting use case, which I hadn't thought of. I'll lars> have to come up with a way to do this. Yes. This can help us to figure out upgrade problems before it affect many users and then improve our upgradeness between releases. sarge upgradability isn't so good like it can be. This tools can help us to improve this for next release. Thanks a lot by this tool and for your work :-D -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Release Team meeting minutes - 2005-06-18
>>>>> "aurelien" == Aurelien Jarno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: aurelien> Andreas Barth a écrit : >> release blockers: - toolchain transition - xorg - sorting out >> docs-in-main vs. the DFSG - SCC; amd64 as an official arch aurelien> So SCC is now a fact, not a proposal anymore? I think this should have a vote for it. -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house."
Re: Release Team meeting minutes - 2005-06-18
>>>>> "andreas" == Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: andreas> * Otavio Salvador ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050619 18:32]: >> >>>>> "aurelien" == Aurelien Jarno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> writes: >> aurelien> Andreas Barth a écrit : >> >> release blockers: - toolchain transition - xorg - sorting >> out >> docs-in-main vs. the DFSG - SCC; amd64 as an official >> arch >> aurelien> So SCC is now a fact, not a proposal anymore? >> I think this should have a vote for it. andreas> You mean we should vote whether we provide infrastructure andreas> for some of our mirrors to provide only the most often andreas> downloaded architectures or not (without forcing them to andreas> that, so that any mirror can - by decision of their admin andreas> - still carry all archs)? I hope you are kidding. I confused it with Vancover proposal, sorry. -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R ----- E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house."
Re: graphic installation to debian
Christian Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Quoting Helmut Wollmersdorfer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > >> A GUI can have better usability. E.g. some beginners don't know, how to >> mark an item in a list for selection in the current installer. O.k., > > > Right. This has been reported quite often (actually more in tasksel > than the installer itself, though, because tasksel is the only place > you have a multiselect template in a default install) Maybe we should change debconf to display a message when we hve multiselect templates explain how the user should do to mark an iten and how to continue. -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GCC version change / C++ ABI change
Thiemo Seufer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Junichi Uekawa wrote: >> Hi, >> >> > This week, we will change the GCC default versions from 3.3 to 4.0 >> >> Would it break kernel 2.4 builds somehow ? >> I've not been quite following; but the thread almost a month ago >> seems to indicate thus: >> http://www.kerneltraffic.org/kernel-traffic/kt20050701_316.html#7 > > Quite likely, yes. 2.4 Kernels would need to Build-Dep on 3.4. But the current versions of 2.4 doesn't get fixed yet? -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?
Matthew Garrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Steve Kemp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Neither Ubuntu nor Debian do anything special to get hardware support >> that is provided by the kernel proper and tools that neither group >> created. > > That's not actually true. I do a lot of work in Ubuntu to add extra > hardware support. All the code gets pushed upstream so will end up in > Debian too, but Ubuntu's lack of a concept of package ownership makes it > massively easier to do integration work - rather than filing half a > dozen bugs and having to chase people up, I can just upload the > packages. Given the amount of time I currently have available to me, I > tend to choose the latter. If Debian had slightly less of a culture of > "Keep your hands off my package", I'd do it here instead. Feel free to improve my packages. I would like to have more people involved. -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?
"Katrina Jackson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I keep seeing your arguments about how some people want on;y a 100 MB system > by > default. But you do give an option to have a Desktop, even Laptop install. > What not make those installs have better support for Desktop and Laptop > Users. > For example, why not have the package updater installed for those who > specifically want to install the desktop environment? Those who only want > servers or 100MB installs will not be hurt by this move. Then, Desktop and > Laptop users are happy too. This is done by Desktop environmnet task. You might give a try to Debian once d-i beta3 goes out and then redo your comments. I think would be really good if you could to do that. -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?
"Katrina Jackson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 7/28/06, Otavio Salvador <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > This is done by Desktop environmnet task. You might give a try to > Debian once d-i beta3 goes out and then redo your comments. > > I think would be really good if you could to do that. > > > > I am happy to hear this. If the Default Desktop environment seems improved > with beta 3 I will be very happy. Would be good if you could try it and send us your feedback. Also, do a installation-report would awesome. > Here is one question I have: > > You say Ubuntu has better publicity, which it does. But why is this the > case? > I know Mark has more money, but since you have so many programmers, and seem > so > passionate about your OS, why aren't you as successful getting publicity? I'm > not accusing anyone. I guess I just really would like to know: > > A.) Could Debian do anything to get better publicity and change people's > perceptions. (For instance, if Debian is so more "well build" then Ubuntu why > don't the press keep mentioning this? > > B.) Why hasn't more been done? Why isn't there any major reports by like PC > World which say "Ubuntu is top 100 products, but man if you want a better > distro, more well built etc.. you should check out Debian. > > Again, I don't want to accuse anyone of anything, but it just doesn't seem > you, > with as many as you have working for you, can generate as much mainstream > publicity. I mean from major things like PC World, not just Planet Debian. I think Debian and Ubuntu has too different target people. Debian doesn't send CDs to everyone. I do think Ubuntu is great in some ways and bad in others. The Marketing thing behind Ubuntu works very well and we should learn with them. We have a team to deal with Press and that might work better. Other problem is that most of people that are paid to work on Debian does that in technical side and not to make marketing actions. That's my POV. I don't know if you or anyone agree with me. -- O T A V I O S A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?
Roger Leigh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco d'Itri) writes: > >> On Jul 28, John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> * xen integration >> Everybody that matters is doing this. >> BTW, where is this integration visible? >> Do we have a VM provisioning system? > > Just for the record, once xen is both integrated into the kernel.org > kernel and running on powerpc, I will be adding "xen" as a new backend > type to schroot, so a xen instance may be created from e.g. an LVM > snapshot. This will also have a nice side-effect in providing dchroot > and dchroot-dsa with transparent access to xen hosts, so you could > e.g. use it for package building and allow individual users root > access to individual xen hosts. Wow! That would be GREAT! :-D -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?
Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Le vendredi 28 juillet 2006 à 17:02 -0300, Otavio Salvador a écrit : >> The Marketing thing behind Ubuntu works very well and we should >> learn with them. We have a team to deal with Press and that might work >> better. Other problem is that most of people that are paid to work on >> Debian does that in technical side and not to make marketing actions. > > Of course we have a lot to learn from Ubuntu's marketing departement: > how to "educate" users in believing false claims, how to spread a buzz > based on nothingness, etc. I disagree with a lot of things done by Ubuntu but also agree with a lot of them. I do think we should learn with the good things they did and also with the bad ones. Not everything told by them is true neither false things. As usual, we should read them carefully but they had done a good job promoting Linux to a lot of people. -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house."
Re: Successful and unsuccessful Debian development tools
martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Thanks, Christoph, I think you argued a good case! > >> I'll probably use bzr when I need to keep something revisioned >> without much fuss just to save the time for "svnadmin create" and >> a DAV share on my Apache. But for everything else I think I'll >> stay with Subversion. And while I haven't tried it I could imagine >> that SVK (the distributed addon to Subversion) might be what makes >> offline fellows happy. > > FYI: http://bazaar-vcs.org/BzrForeignBranches/Subversion Have you tryed it? -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: centralized bzr (Re: Successful and unsuccessful Debian development tools)
Adeodato Simó <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Then each developer can prepare a set of changes offline, do all the > branching, merging, commiting and uncommiting (gotta love that) that > they want, and when they're done, do e.g.: > > % bzr push sftp://costa.debian.org/bzr/pkg-xiph/vorbis-tools We're using that for LTSP. But we're using it in our htdocs dir. How do you set this repository up? -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house."
Re: Centralized darcs
John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, Aug 01, 2006 at 08:31:37PM +0200, Adeodato Simó wrote: >> Right, bzr is great when you have a designed person to integrate >> contributor's changes after review. >> >> But if you have a set of equal developers, bzr can be also used in a >> very similar way to Subversion, where all commits go to a central >> repository, and nobody has to collect them. It's just a matter of >> setting up a directory somewhere with the appropriate write permissions, >> and say "This is our canonical archive, the uploader will include what >> it's in there, nothing more, nothing less". > > I would say that this goes for darcs as well, but even more. > > Darcs has a nice way of pushing patches via e-mail, with GPG signatures > even. These can be processed in an automated way on the server, > verified against, for instance, the Debian keyring, and then applied to > the repository. The only bad thing I know about darcs, for my kinda of use, is the miss of file permission recoring. That's annoying for packaging and like. Besides that, darcs rocks. -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house."
Re: Centralized darcs
John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, Aug 01, 2006 at 05:36:07PM -0300, Otavio Salvador wrote: >> > Darcs has a nice way of pushing patches via e-mail, with GPG signatures >> > even. These can be processed in an automated way on the server, >> > verified against, for instance, the Debian keyring, and then applied to >> > the repository. >> >> The only bad thing I know about darcs, for my kinda of use, is the >> miss of file permission recoring. That's annoying for packaging and >> like. > > It is a bit annoying, but --set-scripts-executable does the right thing > in about 97% of cases. That can be made the default quite easily. > > diff also doesn't preserve permissions, so some are using debian/rules > anyway. Indeed but that can make thing broke due the wrong permission of upstream files, iff you use darcs to maintain those fixes mixed with changes for packaging. -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Centralized darcs
John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, Aug 01, 2006 at 06:12:34PM -0300, Otavio Salvador wrote: >> > diff also doesn't preserve permissions, so some are using debian/rules >> > anyway. >> >> Indeed but that can make thing broke due the wrong permission of >> upstream files, iff you use darcs to maintain those fixes mixed with >> changes for packaging. > > It's true that it *can* happen, but it rarely *does* happen, and when it > does, there are easy workarounds. Indeed. > I do use darcs to track patches against upstream. I really don't > understand the whole cdbs/dpatch/whatever thing -- why use a hack to > manage your patches when you could use a real VC tool that does it > better? Well, it's a bit different point of view. I use both ways of doing that. Sometimes is good to have the patches as files to make easier to merge with upstream ... -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Centralized darcs
Frank Küster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > George Danchev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> > But you lose debian specific patches to be clearly separated from the >>> > upstrem source (digging diff.gz for that is not fun), unless one knows >>> > where to find >>> >>> First, what is a "Debian-specific patch?" Isn't everything in diff.gz >>> that? >> >> Right, but you have parts which touch upstream files (debian/patches/*), and >> parts which does not (debian/!patches). I prefer them to be clearly >> separated >> when the whole debian source package is unpacked. > > Not only that. Many packages make changes to upstream files that are > Debian-specific (e.g. for using infrastructure or libraries that don't > exist outside), but also changes to upstream files that will/should be > temporary because upstream will apply the same patch, has been asked to, > or the patch has been taken from their development version. Iff we use a branch to each change we can have same behaviour using a SCM but anyone that would want to change or contrib changes will need to learn how we deal with this all. -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R ----- E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house."
Re: centralized bzr (Re: Successful and unsuccessful Debian development tools)
Adeodato Simó <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > * Otavio Salvador [Tue, 01 Aug 2006 15:43:56 -0300]: > >> Adeodato Simó <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> > Then each developer can prepare a set of changes offline, do all the >> > branching, merging, commiting and uncommiting (gotta love that) that >> > they want, and when they're done, do e.g.: > >> > % bzr push sftp://costa.debian.org/bzr/pkg-xiph/vorbis-tools > >> We're using that for LTSP. But we're using it in our htdocs dir. How >> do you set this repository up? > > Ask in #alioth. Note, however, that TTBOMK still does not offer HTTP > access, so if you want that, better stick to htdocs for a while. > > I hope to be able to bribe buxy to provide HTTP access when he comes > back, though. ;-) So you only have sftp access? that make it difficult to other to branch from our development branch. I'll wait until we have HTTP as a offer to move to it. -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house."
Re: centralized bzr (Re: Successful and unsuccessful Debian development tools)
Robert Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > bzr is also working on a high performance server at the moment, which > will operate over either a socketpair - i.e. tunnelling via ssh (which > can still be done without granting shell access), or over plain http via > an apache rewrite rule. Is it already working? How we can try? -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Centralized darcs
Alexander Sack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Anyway, as a side note on this thread: *darcs is just far t > slow* for decent maintenance of large pieces of software. I tried once > to create a mozilla repository, do some work with it and it was completely > unusable. I am not talking about minutes, but almost hours to finish > tasks that should take seconds. It has improved a lot in last releases. You might redo your try. :-D -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: centralized bzr (Re: Successful and unsuccessful Debian development tools)
Robert Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 08:27 -0300, Otavio Salvador wrote: >> Robert Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> > bzr is also working on a high performance server at the moment, which >> > will operate over either a socketpair - i.e. tunnelling via ssh (which >> > can still be done without granting shell access), or over plain http via >> > an apache rewrite rule. >> >> Is it already working? How we can try? > > typo - I meant 'bzr developers are also'... > > Its partially functional at this point - we have it passing all the > transport selftests, which means it can be used [by the brave!] as an > alternative to sftp for read-write access, but it no faster. The > higher-level semantic operations are coming along nicely - we hope to > have it in 0.10 due out 4th september. Great! -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Centralized darcs
Frank Küster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Otavio Salvador <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Alexander Sack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >>> Anyway, as a side note on this thread: *darcs is just far t >>> slow* for decent maintenance of large pieces of software. I tried once >>> to create a mozilla repository, do some work with it and it was completely >>> unusable. I am not talking about minutes, but almost hours to finish >>> tasks that should take seconds. >> >> It has improved a lot in last releases. You might redo your try. > > Would it be usable for a source tree of a size where dpatch usage > becomes a pain? It depends of what means by usable and the size that you think it'll happen ;-) -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house."
Re: Bug#381201: ITP: reniced -- renice running processes based on regular expressions
martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > also sprach Christian Garbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.08.03.1436 +0100]: >> reniced does not wait for new processes to act on them. It is >> designed to be run once a day and affect the processes running in >> that moment. > > Then don't call it renice*d*, please. Maybe renice-daily ;-) -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Centralized darcs
Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > After every upstream merger, I have to review every patch applied to the > package *anyway* to make sure that it's still sane, and I find that easier > to do by reading through the contents of debian/patches than by running > filterdiff on diff.gz and then trying to work through the intermingled > results of multiple changes. If you were using one branch to each "logical unit patch" you might merge the new upstream against it and then merge all together again in a new release branch that you upload. That might looks like: branches upstream fix-bug-N fix-bug-M add-feature-X debian So every new upstream release you merge it against each fix and add branch. Then those against debian/. Should work well. -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Status of inetd for etch
Hendrik Sattler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The suggestion to use "nodaemon" as default for exim4 when only handling > local > mail will probably be rejected? I guess you meant nullmailer. -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: glibc and UNACCEPTs
Drew Parsons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > e.g. > build: test_stable patch build-stamp > instead of > build: patch build-stamp That would be good to be add in cdbs. I think we might want to have it more flexible to allow it to work for CDDs too but I liked it very much :-D -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: glibc and UNACCEPTs
Gustavo Noronha Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> That would be good to be add in cdbs. I think we might want to have it >> more flexible to allow it to work for CDDs too but I liked it very >> much :-D > > It does not look right to me, though.. what about buildds? And what > about people forgetting an exported variable saying yes? I much rather > the manual solution, or a solution for dak that detects that the target > distribution changed and requests a confirmation by signed email, for > instance. I dunno if it's right to do that on DAK itself. I think that it can be done by the development scripts. -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dh_python and python policy analysis
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >Copyright (c) 2006 Manoj Srivastava > >Revision History >Revision 1.0.5 4^th November 2006 Setember? -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Accepted lynx 2.8.5-2sarge2 (source i386)
Thomas Dickey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, Sep 13, 2006 at 02:46:56PM +0200, Thomas Viehmann wrote: >> Thomas Dickey wrote: >> >> Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 07:47:40 +0200 >> [...] >> > After the second time, there is no plausible excuse. >> > Do you have an excuse? >> >> Why do you ask if you know there isn't? > > Because Martin's actions are malicious. He was told about this when _he_ > put out an "OpenBSD" patch fix, then shortly afterwards wrote two more > announcements. > >> Hint: You could always look at the date of the actual update. >> >> Maybe you just file a minor bug, that would help people noticing and >> correcting the error. > > It's already in the changelog. He can fix a previous entry and cite it in next version. -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Using debconf
Rodrigo Tavares <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hello, > > I read many tutorials about debconf, but i´d like to > know ro create the packages using debconf . > I know the build package must be postinst, preinst, > prerm, postrm, conffiles and config. > Taking this tree, how i can to build a packages ? You should install the package debconf-doc and follow the tutorial in: $: man debconf-devel I hope it helps you. -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house."
Re: Re : using debconf
Rodrigo Tavares <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hello, > > I alrady read this manual. > In step called : advanced programing with debconf, > show a algorithm is in config file, then i set > postint, preinst, postrm, postinst, conffiles, > templates. > I want to know, how I'll create the package and how > the frontend come happen ? Well, basically if you read carefully it you would have understand it but if you're missing in packaging stuff then is different. I would suggest that you read the Debian Policy since it'll clarify a lot of things to you. -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re : Re: Using debconf
Rodrigo Tavares <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi, > > More one thing, i´m creating a package customized, > where the script is run, them it it´s removed. > When i try to remove this package, ask a question for > user. I make it in bash. And i want to make using > debconf. The all manuals about debconf (in my case), > get to build a new package ? Read the documents that I pointed to you. I think they'll clarify what's need. What do you want to do is possible but you'll need to improve your packaging skills to understand how it works. -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house."
Re: Testing transitions before uploading to unstable
Lars Wirzenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> I think this is best left to unstable/experimental. Adding yet another >> layer of distributions would just increase the workload managing them. > > I didn't suggest it as a layer in the > stable/testing/unstable/experimental spectrum. Rather, it is meant to be > orthogonal to them, a completely new system. For example, there's no > need to restrict uploads to DDs. Do you think it could be a check before a package to be accepted in archive? I second that and would like to help with. -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Archiving bugs with version info (Was: Re: Closing a bug vs. tagging wontfix)
Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Even if it's with versioning information? It would be usefull to keep it >> until the buggy version is available in the archive, what do others >> think? > > Archiving is currently disabled until the exact mechanism of its > operation with versioning is worked out; presumably it will only > archive bugs which no longer affect any version in the archive, but > there may be some discussion with regards to stable here. What's the current consensus right now? IMHO, we should display every bug that still affect stable so we won't receive duplicated reports so often. -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Archiving bugs with version info (Was: Re: Closing a bug vs. tagging wontfix)
"Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Otavio Salvador wrote: >> >> What's the current consensus right now? >> >> IMHO, we should display every bug that still affect stable so we won't >> receive duplicated reports so often. >> > > What about oldstable while it is supported? IMHO, would be good to have a way to check the bugs affecting each release, so in the current interface we might have a link for: Filter bugs affecting: - current stable - previous stable - testing - unstable In that way we might filter what we would like to see there and hide the others. What you think about this proposal? -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Real Life hits: need to give up packages for adoption
Simon Richter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi, > > Christoph Haas schrieb: > >>>* NTP server >>> (some work required; currently, not-really-maintained by the Debian >>> NTP Team, which consists of zero active members) > >> I'd take my chance on this one. There is a large number of bugs open and >> I believe that this package is very important. Still I'd like to have a >> co-maintainer for the package. Anyone else interested? I'd create an SVN >> repository on my server or alioth. > > I have no problem with co-maintenance, but I'd have a problem with svn. Maybe bzr or git? -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Shouldn't we have more ftp masters ?
Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 11:04:29AM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: >> >> [Benjamin Seidenberg] >> > FYI: >> > 12:33 < Ganneff> and for all those impatient waiting for NEW: i will >> > clear that in my jetlag time, in those nights i >> > cant sleep (ie 1st -> 2nd june, 2-> 3) :) >> >> Sounds good, but do not really addresses the fundamental problem here, >> which is that NEW processing at the moment is fragile and stops >> completely when the single person handling NEW is busy elsewhere. > > There are two people, they are both on vacation. But then, isn't the time to choose people to fulfill positions when key people is in vacation? IMHO, key people should always keep someone doing the job when going out so the project don't slow down because of it. Our current, active, ftpmaster are very receptive but this don't exclude the possibility of them going to vacation together or at same time and the project slow down a bit. -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: adding ddccontrol to debian
"Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I have a package ready at the moment. However, it only cleanly builds > with the version of gcc in Sarge. I have been assured by upstream that > a new release is forthcoming which fixes the build issues with gcc 4.x. > Once it is out, the package will be updated and uploaded. I saw that 0.4.1 works with Fedora Core 4 and AFAIK it has new GCC so it should be enough. Am I wrong? Also, you might try to use CVS snapshots to get it in for testing too, if the released version isn't enough for us. -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Renaming a package
Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Wed, May 31, 2006 at 02:05:13PM +0200, Daniel Kobras wrote:
>> On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 04:12:31PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
>> > On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 11:22:51AM +0200, Simon Richter wrote:
>> > > Steve Langasek schrieb:
>> > > >>Package: oldpkg
>> > > >>Depends: newpkg
>> > > >>Description: transitional dummy package
>
>> > > >>Package: newpkg
>> > > >>Replaces: oldpkg
>> > > >>Conflicts: oldpkg
>> > > >>Description: ...
>
>> > > >*NO* *NO* *NO* *NO* *NO*. Look closely at the package relationships
>> > > >you've
>> > > >specified. Why would you upload a package to the archive that *can
>> > > >never
>> > > >be installed*?
>
>> > > Hm, that used to be a "magic" combination that would let dpkg do the
>> > > right thing.
>
>> > I've heard this stated before, but if it was ever true, it's definitely not
>> > the case with apt (or with britney), and it's not mentioned in policy.
>
>> It may well cause problems to britney, but policy section 7.5.2
>> ('Replacing whole packages, forcing their removal') definitely mentions
>> the behaviour of Replaces+Conflicts.
>
> It explains Replaces+Conflicts. It does *not* say "create a dummy package
> that can't be installed because it depends on the thing that conflicts it".
Might be good to include a Provides too or packages depending in the
oldpkg will break.
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New LTSP uploaded!
Hello Folks, I did the upload of our new LTSP version. Of course, I'm very happy with it! It does a great job and will have a lot of new bugs since we redid a lot of code. Personally, I would like to thank firstly to Vagrant (vagrantc) who spent a lot of time working with me at Debcamp and to Gustavo (stratus) who helped me last days to finish the testing of code for upload. People, test it! report the bugs and, if possible, help us! -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New LTSP uploaded!
"Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Otavio Salvador wrote: >> Hello Folks, >> >> I did the upload of our new LTSP version. Of course, I'm very happy >> with it! It does a great job and will have a lot of new bugs since we >> redid a lot of code. >> >> Personally, I would like to thank firstly to Vagrant (vagrantc) who >> spent a lot of time working with me at Debcamp and to Gustavo >> (stratus) who helped me last days to finish the testing of code for >> upload. >> >> People, test it! report the bugs and, if possible, help us! >> > > I earlier expressed a possible interest in adopting ltsp-utils. I will > hopefully be able to start work on an update to that package in the > coming weeks. On ltsp-utils? Would be better if you could join our effort to make LTSP good enough to all vendors. We're trying to make flexible enough that will be trivial to share code between Debian, Ubuntu and any other vendor that start to use our code. Also, there's some tools from ltsp-utils that might be good to have in but then would be good if you join pkg-ltsp project and coordenate with the rest of people what to get in. See you there ;-) -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New LTSP uploaded!
"Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Also, there's some tools from ltsp-utils that might be good to have in >> but then would be good if you join pkg-ltsp project and coordenate >> with the rest of people what to get in. >> >> See you there ;-) >> > OK. If that is the case, please feel free to take the ltsp-utils > package. I only expressed an interest in it since it was orphaned and I > am using LTSP at my church. I am rather busy with some of the other > packaging efforts I have joined. So please, feel free. If you would > still like my help, I will let you know when I am ready to join in a few > weeks. Of course we're interested in your help. If you have a partial package of it, provide it somewhere so anyone can check it and try to improve it while you're busy. About your church, you should try the new LTSP version NOW ;-) GO! hehe -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Summary of Debconf i18n/l10n activities
"Gustavo Franco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Agreed. Btw, it would be better keep Etch package descriptions updated > during its support cycle, but i think it's impossible with the > infrascture we've, right ? No. We already have the previous working structure all up and running. What we want to do is improve it. -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Summary of Debconf i18n/l10n activities
"Gustavo Franco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 6/6/06, Otavio Salvador <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> "Gustavo Franco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> > Agreed. Btw, it would be better keep Etch package descriptions updated >> > during its support cycle, but i think it's impossible with the >> > infrascture we've, right ? >> >> No. We already have the previous working structure all up and >> running. What we want to do is improve it. > > Does it mean that we've infrastructure to keep updating Etch package > descriptions during it support cycle? Is it the plan? People is testing it and then will announce it probably. We intent to try to make as fast as possible. -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Summary of Debconf i18n/l10n activities
"Gustavo Franco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Nice, thanks. While we're at this subject, what's your view on the > Ubuntu language packs? Are we going to extract the translations from > the packages creating language packs? It has pros and cons, and > the best thing i see is the possibility to keep translating stuff after > release. Thoughts? I'm not the best person to talk about it since my knowledge of all involved things is really limited. -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ping for missing maintainers
"Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [ otavio CCed ] > > On 06/18/2006 09:39 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Howdy. Just wondering if anyone knows the whereabouts of two maintainers: >> >> Otavio Salvador (apt-proxy) Sorry by not reply. I must had lost your mail. Well, current apt-proxy is very broken but Chris (the original maintainer) is working is a rewrite and should do a upload in some weeks (hopefully). Basically, in apt-proxy specific case I'm not active but I'm very active in other packages and teams like d-i, parted, grub and grub2. Thanks by keep your eye in us. See you. -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RFC: transitioning towards using BTS versioning for NMUs (and experimental)
"Steinar H. Gunderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >[Don Armstrong had a different suggestion here: Make the default view show >anything applicable to unstable, _plus_ anything that is not marked as >fixed in any version. I don't believe the difference is all that >big.] Since our default development suite is unstable, IMHO, does make sense to see bugs in previous versions that are solved in unstable. We can have a link for the other suites showing the bugs of them there as an option. Makes simple and clear for us, IMHO. Ahh, of course. This will be awesome to have working! It'll mean that uploads for unstable don't need to reinclude all closes that were close in experimental anymore. Perfect. Thank you very much for your and Don's work on BTS :-) -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RFC: transitioning towards using BTS versioning for NMUs (and experimental)
"Steinar H. Gunderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, Jun 19, 2006 at 05:15:02PM -0300, Otavio Salvador wrote: >> Since our default development suite is unstable, IMHO, does make sense >> to see bugs in previous versions that are solved in unstable. > > Well, what do you propose as criteria for showing that? What do you mean by > "previous versions" -- everything back to 1.0-1? Show the bugs that has the fixes in unstable already. -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ping for missing maintainers
Chris Halls <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tuesday 20 June 2006 11:38, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> Wouldn't it be better to merge this with apt-cacher and combine your >> skills and time? They do seem awfully similar in what they do if not >> how they do it. > > Well, when apt-cacher started out, it needed an apache installation to work > and I did not see that as a good replacement for apt-proxy, and it lacked > many of apt-proxy's features. It looks like it has grown many of these > features now so maybe it might be mature enough to retire apt-proxy. It isn't > really possible to merge the existing code since the implementations are so > different. But current apt-cacher still miss some nice features of apt-proxy like the possibility to enforce a server to be use for Debian or anything else. -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Regexp to parse "Version:" fields
Christoph Haas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > So before diving into into regular expressions any further (I have no > practical experience with lookahead patterns for example) I would like > to know if anyone else has worked on this. Perhaps even some Debian tool > does this parsing. I need an implementation in Python but if someone > shows me Perl code of a non-regexp algorithm I'd be happy, too. Use apt_pkg.UpstreamVersion(). Is the easier way to do that. -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Regexp to parse "Version:" fields
Christoph Haas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, Jun 21, 2006 at 09:15:41AM -0300, Otavio Salvador wrote: >> Christoph Haas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> > So before diving into into regular expressions any further (I have no >> > practical experience with lookahead patterns for example) I would like >> > to know if anyone else has worked on this. Perhaps even some Debian tool >> > does this parsing. I need an implementation in Python but if someone >> > shows me Perl code of a non-regexp algorithm I'd be happy, too. >> >> Use apt_pkg.UpstreamVersion(). Is the easier way to do that. > > Wow, this is great. Just why did I implement half of that myself > already? :) That's life ;-) hehehe -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - "Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
